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January 29, 2015, 10:17:48 PM
Last edit: January 30, 2015, 02:59:29 AM by poksak
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NewDeal2014 bought from me amazon account balance and i order item he want from amazon. we agreed he must sent coins after items delivered. After item delivered, he claim item is not what he ordred from me and not sent any coins.

Scammers Profile Link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=211464

Reference Link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=936261.0

Amount Scammed:
$420

Proof of Payment:
http://imgur.com/voq1HCH
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PM/Chat Logs:
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January 29, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
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Can you post a text version of the amazon order number and the tracking number?
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January 29, 2015, 10:59:18 PM
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Can you post a text version of the amazon order number and the tracking number?

Please umblock the pm's already removed your name, take a look at the new scam acussation, Im playing some poker now and will delete ur name in everypost quick, but please help me. Bounty Awarded-

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January 29, 2015, 11:13:58 PM
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Okay, there are two things here that the OP didn't tell you.

1: I didn't receive my goods. I received a Schumacher portable power jumpstarter. I did NOT receive what I had told the OP to order.

2: I explained to the OP that when I return home I will send pictures of what I received. He instead chose to make this scam accusation. He spammed my PM box with at least 20 PMs in broken English asking for payment. The more I tried to explain that I did not receive my goods, the more he spammed me.

I also have a record of another user who PMed me shortly after posting in the OPs thread that the OP was executing an Amazon scam of some kind which involves canceled Amazon orders and store credit on the account.

So what we have here:

a: I did not receive my Antminer S5.

b: The OP spammed my PM box BEFORE the order arrived trying to get bitcoins out of me BEFORE the package arrived (Because if my order isn't what I wanted, my coins are already gone).

c: Another user (Who requested I not use his name) PMed me explaining a complicated scam in the Amazon community that he believed the OP was executing. Simply put - he's ordering nonsense in exchange for BTC before the owner of the Amazon account files a complaint.

d: I told the OP REPEATEDLY about the problem, and he REFUSES to contact either Amazon or the company he "ordered from". He INSISTS that I do so, which I cannot do as I did not place the order - he did.

I will provide COMPLETE PM screenshots, as well as a screenshot of the other user's accusation (with his name omitted) if anyone requests it. I have nothing to hide here - I have not received my package, and I will not take part in some half-assed money laundering operation.

Also - OP if you have any shred of decency you will remove my shipping info from your post. I do not appreciate breaches of privacy.
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January 30, 2015, 12:12:48 AM
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do you have proof?..mate, just tell the truth..
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January 30, 2015, 12:32:04 AM
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http://imgur.com/Ow29RvQ

THIS is what I received after I signed for the package.

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do you have proof?..mate, just tell the truth..

I don't know if you did this, or it was a genuine mistake. Either way, I'm not paying for something I LITERALLY CANNOT USE.

I ordered an Antminer S5 from you. I got this in the mail.


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January 30, 2015, 12:33:09 AM
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Can someone provide a link to the seller's Amazon page? There's no reason to believe you received a fake item if the seller's profile is all positive feedback.
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January 30, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
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http://imgur.com/Ow29RvQ

THIS is what I received after I signed for the package.

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do you have proof?..mate, just tell the truth..

I don't know if you did this, or it was a genuine mistake. Either way, I'm not paying for something I LITERALLY CANNOT USE.

I ordered an Antminer S5 from you. I got this in the mail.



Do you have any video of you opening the package so we know that this is not an attempt to scam the OP?
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January 30, 2015, 12:47:09 AM
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http://imgur.com/Ow29RvQ

THIS is what I received after I signed for the package.

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do you have proof?..mate, just tell the truth..

I don't know if you did this, or it was a genuine mistake. Either way, I'm not paying for something I LITERALLY CANNOT USE.

I ordered an Antminer S5 from you. I got this in the mail.



Do you have any video of you opening the package so we know that this is not an attempt to scam the OP?

You know that I don't. People don't video themselves opening a package they expect to be legitimate. I can't say anymore that is proof-backed, really. I'm still working on making screenshots of every single PM the OP sent pressuring me to send the coins before delivery. That was really suspicious to me.

Believe me, I've completed trades here without any problems. I sold Antminer S3s to Crowetic. I sold a PS3 to Smack That Ace. Both with no escrow, both with being paid up front, and I DELIVERED those items. I am not a scammer. This person has sent me some nonsense (I don't even want to know how he faked the screenshots - Firebug?) and wanted to be paid before the package arrived so I couldn't get my coins back.

Again, I can't prove anything but what is in the box and the messages we have sent one another. I just know that I wanted an Antminer S5 from this user and instead received some garbage. If it's his fault, he's a scammer. If it's not his fault, then it sure LOOKS like his fault based on how he pressured me to pay ahead of delivery.

Yesterday (One day before delivery) he BLEW UP MY PM BOX with requests to get paid, seeking out any way he could get coins before the package arrived.
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January 30, 2015, 12:48:59 AM
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Well I guess the OP could allow a very trusted person access his amazon account to see if the order was in fact canceled or not.
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January 30, 2015, 12:50:22 AM
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is that proof?? Shocked
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January 30, 2015, 12:54:18 AM
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is that proof?? Shocked

If someone were to log into your amazon account who is trusted then they could see that the order really was not canceled and that if NewDeal2014 really did receive a battery then the issue is with the amazon seller not you.
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January 30, 2015, 01:00:27 AM
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http://imgur.com/Ow29RvQ

THIS is what I received after I signed for the package.

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do you have proof?..mate, just tell the truth..

I don't know if you did this, or it was a genuine mistake. Either way, I'm not paying for something I LITERALLY CANNOT USE.

I ordered an Antminer S5 from you. I got this in the mail.



Do you have any video of you opening the package so we know that this is not an attempt to scam the OP?

You know that I don't. People don't video themselves opening a package they expect to be legitimate. I can't say anymore that is proof-backed, really. I'm still working on making screenshots of every single PM the OP sent pressuring me to send the coins before delivery. That was really suspicious to me.

Believe me, I've completed trades here without any problems. I sold Antminer S3s to Crowetic. I sold a PS3 to Smack That Ace. Both with no escrow, both with being paid up front, and I DELIVERED those items. I am not a scammer. This person has sent me some nonsense (I don't even want to know how he faked the screenshots - Firebug?) and wanted to be paid before the package arrived so I couldn't get my coins back.

Again, I can't prove anything but what is in the box and the messages we have sent one another. I just know that I wanted an Antminer S5 from this user and instead received some garbage. If it's his fault, he's a scammer. If it's not his fault, then it sure LOOKS like his fault based on how he pressured me to pay ahead of delivery.

Yesterday (One day before delivery) he BLEW UP MY PM BOX with requests to get paid, seeking out any way he could get coins before the package arrived.


proof im a scammer---->http://imgur.com/kATJLLK

and my partner contact number who really help me to be a genius scammer here-->http://imgur.com/nukR4zf



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January 30, 2015, 01:02:25 AM
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http://imgur.com/Ow29RvQ

THIS is what I received after I signed for the package.

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do you have proof?..mate, just tell the truth..

I don't know if you did this, or it was a genuine mistake. Either way, I'm not paying for something I LITERALLY CANNOT USE.

I ordered an Antminer S5 from you. I got this in the mail.



Do you have any video of you opening the package so we know that this is not an attempt to scam the OP?

You know that I don't. People don't video themselves opening a package they expect to be legitimate. I can't say anymore that is proof-backed, really. I'm still working on making screenshots of every single PM the OP sent pressuring me to send the coins before delivery. That was really suspicious to me.

Believe me, I've completed trades here without any problems. I sold Antminer S3s to Crowetic. I sold a PS3 to Smack That Ace. Both with no escrow, both with being paid up front, and I DELIVERED those items. I am not a scammer. This person has sent me some nonsense (I don't even want to know how he faked the screenshots - Firebug?) and wanted to be paid before the package arrived so I couldn't get my coins back.

Again, I can't prove anything but what is in the box and the messages we have sent one another. I just know that I wanted an Antminer S5 from this user and instead received some garbage. If it's his fault, he's a scammer. If it's not his fault, then it sure LOOKS like his fault based on how he pressured me to pay ahead of delivery.

Yesterday (One day before delivery) he BLEW UP MY PM BOX with requests to get paid, seeking out any way he could get coins before the package arrived.


proof im a scammer---->http://imgur.com/kATJLLK

and my partner contact number who really help me to be a genius scammer here-->http://imgur.com/nukR4zf




Like i said, find someone who you trust to allow access to your amazon account so they can vouch that the images are not photoshopped
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January 30, 2015, 01:09:07 AM
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another proof im a scammer-->http://imgur.com/X5HQHoK
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January 30, 2015, 01:14:13 AM
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another proof im a scammer-->http://imgur.com/X5HQHoK

NO ONE IS DISPUTING THE PACKAGE WAS DELIVERED.

I'm telling you and everyone else that I did not receive what I requested and that you pressured me before delivery to release coins to you. I sent you a PM telling you that I didn't receive what I requested and you kept begging me to send you coins instead of trying to resolve the issue. I asked you to contact the seller and Amazon (Since YOU placed the order), and you kept insisting that I do it.

I can't stress this enough - I did not place an order with Amazon. You did. You need to find out what happened with Amazon and deal with this situation. It's looking more and more like you are just trying to "wash" stolen Amazon credit/GC balance, and I want nothing to do with that kind of illegal activity.

I'm also not going to bicker with you about this. You can post as many screenshots as you want about something being delivered - I received some 400 amp car battery charger when I ordered a BITCOIN MINER. I buy and sell BITCOIN MINERS.
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January 30, 2015, 01:15:54 AM
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another proof im a scammer-->http://imgur.com/X5HQHoK

NO ONE IS DISPUTING THE PACKAGE WAS DELIVERED.

I'm telling you and everyone else that I did not receive what I requested and that you pressured me before delivery to release coins to you. I sent you a PM telling you that I didn't receive what I requested and you kept begging me to send you coins instead of trying to resolve the issue. I asked you to contact the seller and Amazon (Since YOU placed the order), and you kept insisting that I do it.

I can't stress this enough - I did not place an order with Amazon. You did. You need to find out what happened with Amazon and deal with this situation. It's looking more and more like you are just trying to "wash" stolen Amazon credit/GC balance, and I want nothing to do with that kind of illegal activity.

I'm also not going to bicker with you about this. You can post as many screenshots as you want about something being delivered - I received some 400 amp car battery charger when I ordered a BITCOIN MINER. I buy and sell BITCOIN MINERS.

http://imgur.com/jQ2oTqs

yes my plan is to wash my hacked amazon account loaded with carded gift card and scam people so i can get back my clean gift card to legit account
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January 30, 2015, 01:26:05 AM
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I loled:


Honestly I don't think the screenshots are shopped, that would be a pretty bad scam, offering to send someone something upfront and actually send something else and hope they pay... yeah not a good scam at all.

I think that it's possible poksak did buy the miner but maybe the amazon seller tried to scam by sending a battery instead. It is a common scam on Amazon/Ebay with Bitcoin miners. In any case buying/selling amazon balances for BTC is REALLY high risk and nobody should do it. I think someone needs to get in contact with amazon support and get back the money from the seller.

The thing is that the seller was supposed to have been reputable. The OP told me that the seller was reputable and gave me their contact info in a PM.

I'm so confused at this point.
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January 30, 2015, 01:32:18 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/a8KE1m1.png

https://i.imgur.com/Yn6Fk9R.png
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January 30, 2015, 01:34:02 AM
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I loled:


Honestly I don't think the screenshots are shopped, that would be a pretty bad scam, offering to send someone something upfront and actually send something else and hope they pay... yeah not a good scam at all.

I think that it's possible poksak did buy the miner but maybe the amazon seller tried to scam by sending a battery instead. It is a common scam on Amazon/Ebay with Bitcoin miners. In any case buying/selling amazon balances for BTC is REALLY high risk and nobody should do it. I think someone needs to get in contact with amazon support and get back the money from the seller.

The thing is that the seller was supposed to have been reputable. The OP told me that the seller was reputable and gave me their contact info in a PM.

I'm so confused at this point.
According to previous screenshots it was NewDeal2014 that suggested this specific product. I do think you should work with NewDeal to try to resolve this with the amazon seller however assuming you can prove that you did not cancel the order then your part has been fulfilled and NewDeal2014 owes you the bitcoin
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