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July 25, 2012, 01:07:17 AM
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I think we are at the beginning of a new world. Wikispeed represents a new way of manufacturing and delivering high quality products to customers at a very affordable price. Bitcoins represents a new way to conduct commerce across the globe. I'm excited about all the possibilities that this new world will bring. I think Bitcoin and companies like Wikispeed are building a new platform where a new revolutions will take place. Something like the industrial revolution but at global scale and in a way we can't imagine.

Actually, Wikispeed doesn't represent the first company to successfully do this kind of crowdsourcing design & manufacturing in the auto industry, that honor undoubtedly belongs to Local Motors Corporation with the Rally Fighter.

http://rallyfighter.com/

And this is most certainly not vaporware.

I noticed that Rally Fighter has a cool swag page: http://swag.localmotors.com/, one thing missing on Wikispeed's site unless the following counts: http://wikispeed.com/Store

It sure would be nice to see some of their swag using one of their logos below.

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July 25, 2012, 05:43:02 AM
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I hope I'm wrong but somehow if Bitcoin and wikiwikispeed is such a perfect match, why so late?

My understanding is that the OP pitched the idea of Bitcoin funding to the existing Wikispeed people and they said "sure, that sounds like it wouldn't suck, you handle that" or something. Late will be the realm of major car companies, I'd say.
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July 25, 2012, 06:24:30 AM
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I call vaporware.
Way to fail.

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July 25, 2012, 06:34:21 AM
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If that's the case, they did a mighty fine job pulling the alpaca sock over everybody's head over in Detroit.

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July 25, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
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Show me a sale. Seems everything which touches Bitcoin is announced years ahead of time and never arrives, or arrives very lates.

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July 25, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
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Show me a sale. Seems everything which touches Bitcoin is announced years ahead of time and never arrives, or arrives very lates.
If you're too dumb to click on the video link to see the guy driving one of the prototypes, which is for sale right this second, why should I bother? And now you're bashing Bitcoin? /ignore.

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July 25, 2012, 05:41:18 PM
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I'm not bashing Bitcoin, I'm bashing the vaporware which happens way too often. Just "because Bitcoin" doesn't mean people should announce every thought that pops into their heads.

In any case, it has no roof. Like I said, show me a sale. It doesn't even have to be paid in bitcoins, and I'm betting that it won't be.

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July 25, 2012, 06:00:07 PM
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Not to bicker but it is still just a prototype.
Few would cash out for an unfinished product.
It is at least progressing towards a finished product.

I do wish them the best of luck,
but I figure the RSA (Road Safety Authority) and other countries' equivalent would have something to say about any Tom, Dick and Harry building their own car in the backyard, over a few beers.
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July 25, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
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I'm not bashing Bitcoin, I'm bashing the vaporware which happens way too often. Just "because Bitcoin" doesn't mean people should announce every thought that pops into their heads.

This is why normal people with a little persistence are called "visionary" in retrospect, after they toil away with the meager resources they can pull together on their own. Fools engage in emotional negativity and knee-jerk reactions, often without bothering to investigate further before rejecting anything out of the ordinary.

In any case, it has no roof. Like I said, show me a sale. It doesn't even have to be paid in bitcoins, and I'm betting that it won't be.

Some of the first cars didn't have brakes. Early computers had no graphical interface. Bitcoin doesn't have idiot-proof client software yet. Should they all have been abandoned?

Those are all revolutionary; Wikispeed is an incremental improvement - a mashup. At the very least, the initial idea of applying rapid development methods may influence others who will refine it and lower production costs.

  • Visionary: Hey, I have an idea that might be cool. Want to help me try it out?
  • Fools: NO NRRRGHGNGNN VAPORWARE GAAAAH!!

Another version:

  • SW: Let's see if we can add sound to moving pictures.
  • HW: Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?

So, do you still want to stay mired in unwarranted negativity? After all, in your infinite wisdom and knowledge, it can't be done - right?
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July 25, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
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I'm not bashing Bitcoin, I'm bashing the vaporware which happens way too often. Just "because Bitcoin" doesn't mean people should announce every thought that pops into their heads.

This is why normal people with a little persistence are called "visionary" in retrospect, after they toil away with the meager resources they can pull together on their own. Fools engage in emotional negativity and knee-jerk reactions, often without bothering to investigate further before rejecting anything out of the ordinary.

In any case, it has no roof. Like I said, show me a sale. It doesn't even have to be paid in bitcoins, and I'm betting that it won't be.

Some of the first cars didn't have brakes. Early computers had no graphical interface. Bitcoin doesn't have idiot-proof client software yet. Should they all have been abandoned?

Those are all revolutionary; Wikispeed is an incremental improvement - a mashup. At the very least, the initial idea of applying rapid development methods may influence others who will refine it and lower production costs.

  • Visionary: Hey, I have an idea that might be cool. Want to help me try it out?
  • Fools: NO NRRRGHGNGNN VAPORWARE GAAAAH!!

Another version:

  • SW: Let's see if we can add sound to moving pictures.
  • HW: Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?

So, do you still want to stay mired in unwarranted negativity? After all, in your infinite wisdom and knowledge, it can't be done - right?

One of the comments on the last link you provided above.

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Where's the Kickstarter project so I can buy one / cofund this?

A naysayer's comment: Who the hell is going to buy that piece of shit. The first time it rains, all you'll have left is a pile of wet paper.

But a visionary replies with: I developed a sealer that I believe would solve that problem.

Naysayer: Of course now the damn thing is going to cost more than $9.00.

Visionary: You mean 1 BTC, for that's the only way you can purchase these now. If you don't mind, would you get out of our way? We have work to do.
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July 25, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
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No. I just don't want people announcing stuff which doesn't exist. Sure wikispeed has prototypes, but I bet they won't sell one before June of next year. I don't really care to know about it right now. I'm not a venture capitalist. Same thing with BFL, Bitcoincard, Ellet, etc. Maybe if any one of these people set an ETA which was anywhere near on time (does wikispeed even have an ETA?) then I'd be interested.

Really, I'm bashing the unrealistic ETA's. Some of these products won't ever exist, even though they were supposed to come out months ago. There's a saying that it's better to be 15 minutes early, so that even if you're 12 minutes late, you're still on time. Really, once I left middle school, I stopped being late.

I'm starting to think I can make money on this. Every announcement of a big product in this forum, I'll ask for an ETA. Then I'll make a bet that they won't hit it. We can do a negative interest thing: for every day before the eta that they ship, I'll give them 1% extra. For every day late, they give me 1% extra.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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July 25, 2012, 11:20:31 PM
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Every announcement of a big product in this forum, I'll ask for an ETA. Then I'll make a bet that they won't hit it. We can do a negative interest thing: for every day before the eta that they ship, I'll give them 1% extra. For every day late, they give me 1% extra.


I think BFL should do this.

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July 25, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
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I've set aside 100 bitcoins for this or another similar car project if one comes along. Whenever I can buy a car with those 100 bitcoins I will.
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July 26, 2012, 02:54:07 AM
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I've set aside 100 bitcoins for this or another similar car project if one comes along. Whenever I can buy a car with those 100 bitcoins I will.

You'll have a car within 2 years.
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July 26, 2012, 02:54:41 AM
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I'm not bashing Bitcoin, I'm bashing the vaporware which happens way too often. Just "because Bitcoin" doesn't mean people should announce every thought that pops into their heads.

No. I just don't want people announcing stuff which doesn't exist. Sure wikispeed has prototypes, but I bet they won't sell one before June of next year. I don't really care to know about it right now. I'm not a venture capitalist. Same thing with BFL, Bitcoincard, Ellet, etc. Maybe if any one of these people set an ETA which was anywhere near on time (does wikispeed even have an ETA?) then I'd be interested.

Really, I'm bashing the unrealistic ETA's. Some of these products won't ever exist, even though they were supposed to come out months ago. There's a saying that it's better to be 15 minutes early, so that even if you're 12 minutes late, you're still on time. Really, once I left middle school, I stopped being late.

I'm starting to think I can make money on this. Every announcement of a big product in this forum, I'll ask for an ETA. Then I'll make a bet that they won't hit it. We can do a negative interest thing: for every day before the eta that they ship, I'll give them 1% extra. For every day late, they give me 1% extra.

Nice backpedal. We don't want a lot of things to happen, but they still do. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. For that, put your efforts toward human trafficking or child abuse.

I want to know about ideas and things being developed. I want to be able to gauge potential trends. I want to have an estimate on production, even if it isn't guaranteed or absolutely accurate. As do many businesses, which is part of the reason that a lot of them are even in business.

At least be genuine and start off with the proclamation that you want to speculate and make bets like a rote gambler. Otherwise, stop killing hope: live and let live. We can all do with less negativity.
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July 26, 2012, 03:12:43 AM
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I'll bet money against any optimist. That way I'm either proven right or pleasantly surprised.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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July 26, 2012, 10:36:56 AM
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This is why normal people with a little persistence are called "visionary" in retrospect, after they toil away with the meager resources they can pull together on their own. Fools engage in emotional negativity and knee-jerk reactions, often without bothering to investigate further before rejecting anything out of the ordinary.

In any case, it has no roof. Like I said, show me a sale. It doesn't even have to be paid in bitcoins, and I'm betting that it won't be.

Some of the first cars didn't have brakes. Early computers had no graphical interface. Bitcoin doesn't have idiot-proof client software yet. Should they all have been abandoned?


I think you'll find automobiles have been around for awhile and they all have a roof of some kind. This piece of crap is a step backwards if anything. Oh, but you're the visionary genius and only you can see the holy light that the infallible wikiturd casts. 
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July 26, 2012, 02:14:54 PM
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actually, generally speaking "roadster" style cars don't have a roof of any form.
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July 26, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
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If I ever buy a brand new car it will be a WIKISPEED and I will obviously pay with BTC!
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July 27, 2012, 07:49:13 PM
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I don't care much for the car or it's components. Even the fact that they claim to not worry about making a profit is ... offputting. To me that means it's a hobby and hobbies change.

But seriously, the fact that someone is willing to sell a car and accept BTC means a lot more than the car itself. That is a real good you can use everyday to do something with. It's not a bag of roasted coffee or a video card, it's a essential part of life for many people.

That's the nice part.
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