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February 19, 2015, 01:59:55 AM
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February 19, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
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Interesting service there. Just for the sake of curiosity, how much would a full deletion of my account cost (posts + everything changed to random)?

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February 19, 2015, 09:47:45 PM
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Interesting service there. Just for the sake of curiosity, how much would a full deletion of my account cost (posts + everything changed to random)?

I am currently reevaluating the price to delete posts. The ~100 for the last customer took an hour and I dont see any way to automate the process if I want to make sure no "scam critical" posts get deleted.
At minimum wage (8.50 €) per hour per 100 posts we would be talking about 3.7 BTC for your account. Id probably need the full 4 weeks to go through all posts before deleting the randomly generated passwords. Well for 3.7 BTC I would take a week vacation and plow through it.
Besides that the basic service is pretty cheap with 0.001. For an Hero with picture and green trust it might be a good idea to use 32 byte passwords though, just in case Wink would cost you 0.0025

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February 20, 2015, 05:31:30 AM
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This looks interesting.
But one thing again and again crosses my mind.
All the things you are providing, we can actually do it ourselves.

So what's the benefit of using your service?

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February 20, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
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This looks interesting.
But one thing again and again crosses my mind.
All the things you are providing, we can actually do it ourselves.

So what's the benefit of using your service?

See meta and search 'delete my account' or see https://www.google.com/cse?cx=016660200577587308545%3Aesf40ml9aag&ie=UTF-8&q=delete+my+accont&sa=Google+search#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=delete%20my%20account&gsc.sort=.

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February 20, 2015, 02:37:02 PM
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This looks interesting.
But one thing again and again crosses my mind.
All the things you are providing, we can actually do it ourselves.

So what's the benefit of using your service?

Sometimes its hard to stop doing something, posting here might be this something for someone. They might also want a fresh start and never look back. What is easy to do for some is not so easy for others and they sometimes need help.

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March 17, 2015, 09:05:42 AM
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I cleaned the first account. I went first because I trust MZ. It certainly took longer to delete the posts than expected. Threads started by the account have not been deleted, but reported to the mods to be moved in archival and locked. Threads and posts discussing negative trust ratings have not been removed either. All PMs have been deleted unread. The "Prune Messages" option is very handy in that regard.

Username: goodnightcoin
Proof of ownership:
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is 16.02.2015 and I control the bitcointalk account named
goodnightcoin, userid: 231272. I want to use shorenas basic account
deletion service, payment is sponsored by the bitcointalk user Muhammed
Zakir, user id 320943
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
14NuZ3Q3DWsZWgVoQTMFdjUvy7nAywUtwj
HFjxEs5KnUCL3hjfOMc3+1tHfb4yNcK5ES29F7ROqpi5amaERJPgObq86FAzP6WFc7E3zs9e7UXcrVjamz8Zghk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
link to unedited post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760481.msg8577217#msg8577217

Payment info:
Code:
--------------INFO------------------------------------
Username (ID) : goodnightcoin (231272)
Sponsored     : yes
Sponsor (ID)  : Muhammed Zakir (320943)
Escrow        : no
Escrower (ID) : - (-)
--------------PRICE-----------------------------------
0.00100000 basic   SAD-Service
 - free -  cleaned SAD-Service 101 posts total
======================================================
0.00100000 total
======================================================
payment address: 1PqxLus1jtdhRHKzbXY9QzdcEY5Jitbsjc
payment due: 17.03.2015 (4w after basic provided)

Confirming this!

Edit:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is 18.02.2015 and I confirm what is said above.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh
G+YqE7cPcmAZcufQQRKvsQqPfpzhwVY87dAi8JDrL99Zc3hUuuRjXr/ciHUMLicbHLHpxAm9CiAFyosbnuejef0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

   -MZ

Account data has been deleted as promissed. The sectors on the disk have been overwritten 999 times with random data and finally with zero bits. Its an old mechanical disk, thus there is no risk that the disk controller faked it. I know you have a lot on your plate at the moment MZ, thus I waive payment.


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March 17, 2015, 09:25:42 AM
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I cleaned the first account. I went first because I trust MZ. It certainly took longer to delete the posts than expected. Threads started by the account have not been deleted, but reported to the mods to be moved in archival and locked. Threads and posts discussing negative trust ratings have not been removed either. All PMs have been deleted unread. The "Prune Messages" option is very handy in that regard.

Username: goodnightcoin
Proof of ownership:
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is 16.02.2015 and I control the bitcointalk account named
goodnightcoin, userid: 231272. I want to use shorenas basic account
deletion service, payment is sponsored by the bitcointalk user Muhammed
Zakir, user id 320943
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
14NuZ3Q3DWsZWgVoQTMFdjUvy7nAywUtwj
HFjxEs5KnUCL3hjfOMc3+1tHfb4yNcK5ES29F7ROqpi5amaERJPgObq86FAzP6WFc7E3zs9e7UXcrVjamz8Zghk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
link to unedited post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760481.msg8577217#msg8577217

Payment info:
Code:
--------------INFO------------------------------------
Username (ID) : goodnightcoin (231272)
Sponsored     : yes
Sponsor (ID)  : Muhammed Zakir (320943)
Escrow        : no
Escrower (ID) : - (-)
--------------PRICE-----------------------------------
0.00100000 basic   SAD-Service
 - free -  cleaned SAD-Service 101 posts total
======================================================
0.00100000 total
======================================================
payment address: 1PqxLus1jtdhRHKzbXY9QzdcEY5Jitbsjc
payment due: 17.03.2015 (4w after basic provided)

Confirming this!

Edit:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is 18.02.2015 and I confirm what is said above.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh
G+YqE7cPcmAZcufQQRKvsQqPfpzhwVY87dAi8JDrL99Zc3hUuuRjXr/ciHUMLicbHLHpxAm9CiAFyosbnuejef0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

   -MZ

Account data has been deleted as promissed. The sectors on the disk have been overwritten 999 times with random data and finally with zero bits. Its an old mechanical disk, thus there is no risk that the disk controller faked it. I know you have a lot on your plate at the moment MZ, thus I waive payment.

TX: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/18f2e671611f121a95cea0e96adbc519c93b8939a51e41456d5f151d07451a83

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March 17, 2015, 09:40:07 AM
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Confirmed, thanks for the tip. Smiley

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March 17, 2015, 10:12:40 AM
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Funny service Cheesy If one day I want to delete my account I will come back here for sure ^^
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April 28, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
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=snip=
Prices:

Get the basic SAD-Service for
0.001 BTC per Account.
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What is included in the basic SAD-Service?
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April 28, 2015, 01:47:57 PM
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=snip=
Prices:

Get the basic SAD-Service for
0.001 BTC per Account.
=snip=

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What is included in the basic SAD-Service?
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The good (or sad) feeling that you will no longer be able to access the account.

In detail:

New random account password,
New random mail password,
New random security answer with 128 bit entropy each.
Generated and stored offline.
New random mail address with 32 bit entropy,
regular data removal (rm account.txt) after 4 weeks.

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April 28, 2015, 07:14:54 PM
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Why would anyone on the forum want to delete their account - for money?! You could sell it, keep it, change your password yourself etc. But why pay for deleting something?!
If there are sad peiple that want to delete their account :
Give it to me  Grin I am more than happy to change all your security data and keep it as mine Wink
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April 28, 2015, 07:44:05 PM
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Why would anyone on the forum want to delete their account - for money?! You could sell it, keep it, change your password yourself etc. But why pay for deleting something?!
If there are sad peiple that want to delete their account :
Give it to me  Grin I am more than happy to change all your security data and keep it as mine Wink

Probably for the same reason why people dont read a thread before writing a reply. Everyone is different.

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April 28, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
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Sorry, I don't understand, why should I delete my account?

Maybe you dont want to, but I see the question asked in meta quite often.

You mean bitcointalk account?

Yes.

SAD? sorry I am confused.

SAD, because I think its sad to "delete" accounts and well it fits with Shorena's Account Deletion Service.

LOL. I wondering what is "SAD" and now I understand. Sounds like ! Grin

But I really don't understand more about your service. almost everyone is afraid to hear about anything related to "delete" . I think you should

explain it for more information.

Thank you very much !

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April 28, 2015, 10:17:21 PM
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How much would you charge for an account with 4350 posts, 5,000 PM's in their inbox and 4,800 PM's in their outbox? There is no rush on a quote, and by the time your service is utilized the above numbers will probably have increased somewhat.
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April 29, 2015, 08:02:17 AM
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LOL. I wondering what is "SAD" and now I understand. Sounds like ! Grin

But I really don't understand more about your service. almost everyone is afraid to hear about anything related to "delete" . I think you should

explain it for more information.

Thank you very much !

What exactly is your question? I personally think I have everything explained that needs explaining otherwise I would have written more in the OP or updated the post by now. If you have a specific question you need answers Im very happy to give you an answer, but "explain it for more information" is not something I can come up with an answer for sorry.

How much would you charge for an account with 4350 posts, 5,000 PM's in their inbox and 4,800 PM's in their outbox? There is no rush on a quote, and by the time your service is utilized the above numbers will probably have increased somewhat.

I hope you dont actually want to leave and this is just an example or thought experiment. Its true I currently dont have a fixed price on "clean-SAD", thus my offer is based on the time it took in the past to remove and assess 100 posts and the minimal wage for germany.

basic SAD - 0.001
PMs - free
4350 posts @ 8.50 EUR per 100 posts and BTC/EUR @ ~206 today = 4350/100 * 8.5/206 = 1.7949 BTC
total - 1.795 BTC

Id probably add "long-SAD" for free since you are on DefaultTrust and get in contact with BadBear to have the account removed after the 4 weeks have passed. Although I would have no reason to wait that long as you probably would sign a message with your PGP key.
Keep in mind that this includes a personal analysis of every post in the context of the thread it was posted it. Every thread that can not be deleted would be reported to mods and asked to be moved into archival. PMs would be deleted without any further checks and in bulk (the board offers a button for that). Considering that you often write lengthy posts in complex threads regarding scams 100 posts per hour is probably not realistic. On the other hand I can hardly charge you more because you have been more active in busting scammers than others, can I? Wink

Disclaimer: when I say "deleted" its referring to whatever is possible under the given circumstances. I have no access to the boards backups and or other accounts you have send PMs to or received from. Posts do not actually get deleted from the database either, but hidden from all but admins AFAIK.

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April 29, 2015, 11:55:43 AM
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this is interesting project, since we cannot delete own account. the question is why the forum is not provide a feature to delete our account  Grin

 
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April 30, 2015, 03:01:25 AM
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LOL. I wondering what is "SAD" and now I understand. Sounds like ! Grin

But I really don't understand more about your service. almost everyone is afraid to hear about anything related to "delete" . I think you should

explain it for more information.

Thank you very much !

What exactly is your question? I personally think I have everything explained that needs explaining otherwise I would have written more in the OP or updated the post by now. If you have a specific question you need answers Im very happy to give you an answer, but "explain it for more information" is not something I can come up with an answer for sorry.


Sincerely thanks for your enthusiastic help !

I've read what you've presented above, it almost has a specific, detailed and clear now. But perhaps because of my language skills are not

good or I do not have much knowledge, so I still do not understand what is the purpose of this service ?

I see you've said that, I put my account for you so that you deleted posts, messages , change password,...But but I do not see what you say to the

account for my return. And if you return or admin recover it, I would do with it, I need to do with it ? Do I need to change or modify something or

not ? where all the information about my account you already know all...

Generally, after I use your service, I will get something back from it ?

That was my thought, if I'm wrong, please feel ignored !

Sincerely thanks!

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April 30, 2015, 06:23:47 AM
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Sincerely thanks for your enthusiastic help !

I've read what you've presented above, it almost has a specific, detailed and clear now. But perhaps because of my language skills are not good or I do not have much knowledge, so I still do not understand what is the purpose of this service ?

The purpose is to no longer be able to access your account, ever. E.g. if someone had a bad time here and wants to leave, I can help. If someone had a very good time here, but the forum takes too much time and they have a problem to stop I can help as well. As it was pointed out in the past, that is surely something many can do themselves, but so is baking bread or mowing the lawn. Its more convenient to have someone else take care of it.

I see you've said that, I put my account for you so that you deleted posts, messages , change password,...But but I do not see what you say to the account for my return. And if you return or admin recover it, I would do with it, I need to do with it ? Do I need to change or modify something or not ? where all the information about my account you already know all...
Generally, after I use your service, I will get something back from it ?
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No, you dont get the account back, that is the service I am offering. It would be possible for an admin to restore the account though. I have no say in what theymos does or does not do. I keep the passwords for 4 week to give some time in case of a hack. I want to make sure as best as I can that the victim of a hack does not lose the account because of me.

For those that just need a break, to stay away for a few weeks, I also offer that I do not delete the passwords, but send them back to the owner. That is not the main reason I made the thread though. I saw many asking in meta "can you delete my account please" and thus thought I could do the next best thing for someone that wants to leave for good.

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