ANTMINER S2 upgrade kit? EDIT: BITMAIN WHERE ARE YOU?!?!

[Meech]

Cost of shipping these is $40 minimum, I know........  and they don't travel well.  I have one on CL now, Ebay takes too long to pay, another with 1 bad hashing board and no psu.  Been keeping these ones just in case a miracle happens, but seeing how Bitmain is that miracle won't be cheap.  Too bad these run like a champ and are fairly quiet.

[PatSNL]

Rude!  That's all I have to say to Bitmain.  Money hungry Pigs!  Great products for the most part but selling PreMined equipment is just uncool!  We're fools if we don't believe they have the tech but choose to upgrade their own farms first, then try and sell them as S7's.  May be wrong but the silence would tell anyone that this is the course. 
Don't ever again advertise a product you don't intend to ship, not just once but twice. 

I am glad someone agree's with me.

It was really tedious waiting.... months ago.  Now it is far beyond rude.  It's a total slap in the face to customers, to wait so long without any real statements (except "soon" "wait")

[dog1965]

Rude!  That's all I have to say to Bitmain.  Money hungry Pigs!  Great products for the most part but selling PreMined equipment is just uncool!  We're fools if we don't believe they have the tech but choose to upgrade their own farms first, then try and sell them as S7's.  May be wrong but the silence would tell anyone that this is the course. 
Don't ever again advertise a product you don't intend to ship, not just once but twice. 

I am glad someone agree's with me.

It was really tedious waiting.... months ago.  Now it is far beyond rude.  It's a total slap in the face to customers, to wait so long without any real statements (except "soon" "wait")

we will get the answer in the year 2115.
 

[mammon]

Why don't we just SPAM them, with the question; IF and WHEN they this S2 Upgrade comes?

How many people are following this Topic? 100, 200 or more...
What if we start emailing Bitmain every day -twice- with lets say 100+ people?
If the arrogance of Bitmain is this high, they need a good lesson!
Believe me, after a while they will answer!

ps. soon LKETC.com is offering 5TH \ 1000watt  (maybe it's time to walk away from Bitmain...)

[Meech]

Bitmain has grown away from the communities appeal.  If you can go back they actually were looking for feedback on the forum but not now.
Emailing would just give a repeat answer as "Wait, we will be releasing info shortly".  This whole thread was created to do just what you ask.
When was the last time they posted in here?  My point exactly.  Twice on the same product promising an upgrade and not delivering is wrong and follows many of the companies that failed.

[dairy100]

Why don't we just SPAM them, with the question; IF and WHEN they this S2 Upgrade comes?

How many people are following this Topic? 100, 200 or more...
What if we start emailing Bitmain every day -twice- with lets say 100+ people?
If the arrogance of Bitmain is this high, they need a good lesson!
Believe me, after a while they will answer!

ps. soon LKETC.com is offering 5TH \ 1000watt  (maybe it's time to walk away from Bitmain...)

omg....you are right
http://lketc.com/enindex.aspx

[lucky1974]

Why don't we just SPAM them, with the question; IF and WHEN they this S2 Upgrade comes?

How many people are following this Topic? 100, 200 or more...
What if we start emailing Bitmain every day -twice- with lets say 100+ people?
If the arrogance of Bitmain is this high, they need a good lesson!
Believe me, after a while they will answer!

ps. soon LKETC.com is offering 5TH \ 1000watt  (maybe it's time to walk away from Bitmain...)

omg....you are right
http://lketc.com/enindex.aspx

Does anyone know the price yet ?

[notlist3d]

Why don't we just SPAM them, with the question; IF and WHEN they this S2 Upgrade comes?

How many people are following this Topic? 100, 200 or more...
What if we start emailing Bitmain every day -twice- with lets say 100+ people?
If the arrogance of Bitmain is this high, they need a good lesson!
Believe me, after a while they will answer!

ps. soon LKETC.com is offering 5TH \ 1000watt  (maybe it's time to walk away from Bitmain...)

omg....you are right
http://lketc.com/enindex.aspx

Does anyone know the price yet ?

The price and release dates are not known I do not believe.  I'm guessing they are still working on this chips myself.

[peteabdo]

You would think they would respond with something. Any response is better than none. WTF!!!

[notlist3d]

You would think they would respond with something. Any response is better than none. WTF!!!

The none response speaks for itself.   I think the S2 is not the easiest upgrade they need to make 10 blades, instead of lets say S4 only 4 blades.   I'm sure they did cost analysis to see what profit margin would be.

My guess and its a total guess is they found other things they can make more money off of then an upgrade kit.

[Meech]

You would think they would respond with something. Any response is better than none. WTF!!!

The none response speaks for itself.   I think the S2 is not the easiest upgrade they need to make 10 blades, instead of lets say S4 only 4 blades.   I'm sure they did cost analysis to see what profit margin would be.

My guess and its a total guess is they found other things they can make more money off of then an upgrade kit.

They were shooting for 6 or 7 blades.

[notlist3d]

You would think they would respond with something. Any response is better than none. WTF!!!

The none response speaks for itself.   I think the S2 is not the easiest upgrade they need to make 10 blades, instead of lets say S4 only 4 blades.   I'm sure they did cost analysis to see what profit margin would be.

My guess and its a total guess is they found other things they can make more money off of then an upgrade kit.

They were shooting for 6 or 7 blades.

It was possibly a design, but I don't think it made it farther then that.  I'm guessing it never made it to prototype phase.

I still think they are working on other things.  If they ever come back and do a S2 upgrade... doubt it.... but who knows.

[sidehack]

It was possibly a design, but I don't think it made it farther then that.  I'm guessing it never made it to prototype phase.

No, it was prototyped over four months ago. If I'm thinking right, 8 of these boards clocked at 200MHz would get you over 3TH off 1KW from the wall.

These are the S2 upgrade kit hashing PCB displayed in Burin, Germany and Amsterdam, Netherlands last week.

[Rabinovitch]

sidehack, may be you can produce these boards? It will be faster anyway. 

[sidehack]

It probably wouldn't, since I don't really have the resources to prototype something that large anytime soon. I also currently know almost nothing about the socket pinout or the protocol or the driver code. I'll worry about the four miner boards and USB hub and PSU boards and hosting I'm already doing, but if all that goes well I might look into it later this year?

[notlist3d]

It was possibly a design, but I don't think it made it farther then that.  I'm guessing it never made it to prototype phase.

No, it was prototyped over four months ago. If I'm thinking right, 8 of these boards clocked at 200MHz would get you over 3TH off 1KW from the wall.

These are the S2 upgrade kit hashing PCB displayed in Burin, Germany and Amsterdam, Netherlands last week.

I did not realize it was 3T on 1 KW.   That is more impressive then I thought it was.   I could have seen them wanting to sell out of S4+ before releasing them if those specs are close.

But with S4+ sold out.  I'm not sure what they are really waiting for.   I think the silence still means a good chance they will not end up doing this.

[sidehack]

200MHz would be 3168GH proper. It's probably closer to 1100W wall once you do the math a bit better and factor in fans. But that's still pretty decent.

[Rabinovitch]

It probably wouldn't, since I don't really have the resources to prototype something that large anytime soon. I also currently know almost nothing about the socket pinout or the protocol or the driver code. I'll worry about the four miner boards and USB hub and PSU boards and hosting I'm already doing, but if all that goes well I might look into it later this year?

Can anything help you to start sooner? May be any donations campaign? 

[notlist3d]

It probably wouldn't, since I don't really have the resources to prototype something that large anytime soon. I also currently know almost nothing about the socket pinout or the protocol or the driver code. I'll worry about the four miner boards and USB hub and PSU boards and hosting I'm already doing, but if all that goes well I might look into it later this year?

Can anything help you to start sooner? May be any donations campaign? 

You could talk a company into selling him lots of chips at a good price.   I think Bitmain was not really responding to chip orders unless it changed.

I hope when he does this big of gear he does ground up, like he did with usb drive.  I really would love to see a GekkoScience big miner that is not an upgrade.

[Rabinovitch]

You could talk a company into selling him lots of chips at a good price.   I think Bitmain was not really responding to chip orders unless it changed.

I'll try, it's better than nothing. 

I hope when he does this big of gear he does ground up, like he did with usb drive.  I really would love to see a GekkoScience big miner that is not an upgrade.

Why not make a big miner with hashing boards completely compatible with S2's backplate?