NYC residents are being robbed of their Bitcoin!

[funtotry]

You are correct RodeoX. Capitalism IS the best system, is communism working well in Russia right now?

Russia is a capitalist oligarchy.

Which is the best country in the world? The USA.

That's adorable. You remind me of this blonde girl from the Newsroom.

America is the best in only three categories:

-Number of incarcerated citizens per capita
-Number of adults who believe angels are real
-Military expenditure

Last 2 are irrelevant, first off other peoples religion have nothing to do with america, there is freedom of religion remember?
Military expenditure has allowed us to achieve world superpower, and STAY there. If anything were to happen we could easily win any war even if our allies turned on us. Yes Canada has less military expenditure but if the alliance between Canada and the US was broken, Canada would get absolutely destroyed. The world's strongest military is what allows it to stay strong and make these aggressive decisions and counter terrorism and all this invasion into other countries and getting things done. First one I agree is not very good and embarrassing actually.

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[Beliathon]

Last 2 are irrelevant, first off other peoples religion have nothing to do with america, there is freedom of religion remember?

Considering the southern states are where most of the gun nuts live, I'd say it's pretty damn relevant.

[pitham1]

it looks that just happened one time,the thread is so sensationalist

The media highlights what gives them viewership points. Do you blame them?

[leopard2]

there is a video, showing how an unarmed guy gets robbed with a simple knife

it could not be any clearer that a firearm would have been a gamechanger, resulting in a dead piece of scum and dry pants

BUT STILL the gunhaters come out and write horseshit, it is incredible

[mlferro]

it looks that just happened one time,the thread is so sensationalist

The media highlights what gives them viewership points. Do you blame them?

that's true ...the media does not always show what actually happens or what happened.

[pitham1]

there is a video, showing how an unarmed guy gets robbed with a simple knife

it could not be any clearer that a firearm would have been a gamechanger, resulting in a dead piece of scum and dry pants

BUT STILL the gunhaters come out and write horseshit, it is incredible

Firearms held by both people... would have resulted in 2 dead bodies.

[RodeoX]

Hell, my guns are better than their low bid firearms.

You could have the best, fanciest gun in the world and you'd be just as dead if a bullet from the shittiest, cheapest gun struck one of your vital organs.

I totally agree. It's more about practice. That is why I shoot at least 200 round per week.

I do not feel oppressed by capitalism

Great for you, check your privilege.

I'm just not fearful. I make things happen instead of letting things happen. Capitalism does demand your effort. It's not for ass sitters.

It's [capitalism] far from utopia, but never in human history have people had it as good as we do.

You sure about that? Anxiety disorders affect 40 million adults in the United States (18% of U.S. population). 1 in 10 Americans is clinically depressed. 1 in 4 college students are depressed.
The United States is today almost certainly the most mentally ill society in the history of the world.

Never have people lived so long. Never has there been such peace. (yes, this is one of the most peaceful times in history.) and never have people had this much freedom. Heck, I could decide to live as a woman and society would play along. Unheard of historically.

Anyone who thinks you don't need a gun has been watching to many movies.

You must be joking. Hollywood glorifies gun culture like mad!

I must have been unclear, because that is certainly true and not what I'm saying. Our society should be ashamed of our glorification of violence. But we also love the underdog who who throws an impossible left hook and knocks out the armed bad guy. But that is not gun culture. Gun culture in based on safe handling. We are talking about the culture of violence.

So again, I'll stick to what I know works. That is not how a real gunfight unfolds.

You'll stick to what you believe works while ignoring overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I'll stick to an evidence-based existence.

I have seen fighting on three continents now and had more than enough experience being shot at. Never have I thought that if I threw away my weapon I would be safer. It never crossed my mind that we should stop returning fire because someone might accidentally get hurt.
So I wear a seat-belt and a gun just in case. You won't see it unless you are trying to kill me. But if someone does try to kill me then i will try to make it the last thing they ever see. I consider this to be a pragmatic decision.

[Beliathon]

there is a video, showing how an unarmed guy gets robbed with a simple knife

it could not be any clearer that a firearm would have been a gamechanger, resulting in a dead piece of scum and dry pants

BUT STILL the gunhaters come out and write horseshit, it is incredible

Firearms held by both people... would have resulted in 2 dead bodies.

QFT

This is what we get in exchange for our gun culture:

NSFW! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-0uqFTBclo NSFW!

Some folks (especially Americans) seem to think that their AR-15s are a guarantor that they can resist tyranny. But guns are an 18th century response to 18th century threats to democracy. Capital doesn't need to point a gun at you to remove your democratic rights: it just needs more cameras, more cops, and a legal system that is fair and just and bankrupts you if you are ever charged with public disorder and don't plead guilty.

-Charlie Stross

[Snorek]

Yeah that is pretty scary. Thieves will try to take advantage of any opportunity they can.

It may be shocking news now but it is just natural development. It is normal evolution, everything with some value will be targeted by thieves and eventually stolen. You just need to protect your bitcoin as much as your 'normal' money.

[Beliathon]

So I wear a seat-belt and a gun just in case.

He wears, not carries, his weapon, folks. That's important, because its for safety. Because they are both safety instruments that protect you. That's why it's the same. Get it? It all makes perfect sense.

Just as bullets and and kevlar vests are the same. Just as shields and swords are the same. Just as a wall and a battering ram are the same. Attacking and defending. Ignorance is strength. War is peace.

[RodeoX]

So I wear a seat-belt and a gun just in case.

He wears, not carries, his gun, just like his seatbelt ladies and gentlemen. Just to be safe. Because they are both safety instruments that protect you. That's why it's the same. Get it?

Just as bullets and and kevlar vests are the same. Just as shields and swords are the same. Just as a wall and a battering ram are the same.  Ignorance is strength.

I also sometimes carry a flashlight and always carry a first aid kit in my car. Oh and I very rarely wear my kevlar vest. I'm not sure what your arguing now? Equivocation on the word wear? I hope you get into a debate and not a gunfight.

[Beliathon]

So I wear a seat-belt and a gun just in case.

He wears, not carries, his gun, just like his seatbelt ladies and gentlemen. Just to be safe. Because they are both safety instruments that protect you. That's why it's the same. Get it?

Just as bullets and and kevlar vests are the same. Just as shields and swords are the same. Just as a wall and a battering ram are the same.  Ignorance is strength.

I also sometimes carry a flashlight and always carry a first aid kit in my car. Oh and I very rarely wear my kevlar vest. I'm not sure what your arguing now? Equivocation on the word wear?

The way a person (ab)uses language reveals a great deal about the way they think. That's my point.

[KaChingCoinDev]

Not suprising. People get mugged for $, why not for BTC

[cheekychap]

Not suprising. People get mugged for $, why not for BTC

Maybe because not everyone carries more than 1000$ around, However a trader might be carrying more and maybe forced to empty his bitcoin wallet.

[leopard2]

there is a video, showing how an unarmed guy gets robbed with a simple knife

it could not be any clearer that a firearm would have been a gamechanger, resulting in a dead piece of scum and dry pants

BUT STILL the gunhaters come out and write horseshit, it is incredible

Firearms held by both people... would have resulted in 2 dead bodies.

Holy cow, you can't argue with gunhaters 

The attacker was armed with a knife, it is complete nonsense to assume that he would have owned/used a firearm just because the victim could legally have worn one

I don't think it works like that, in fact knives are easier to get than guns so the hurdle (both in obtaining the weapon, and the potential prison time) would have been much higher.

The attacker could legally and easily obtain the knife, while a gun is harder to get, and not legally, for most criminals. Here in Switzerland you can forget about owning a gun legally with a criminal record, same goes for US and most other places.

Recommendation. All gunhaters write a 20 page essay about what this saying means: Colt's guns inspired an old saying: "God created man, Sam Colt made them equal."

it means that guns do not guarantee you win in a conflict, but they will bring you to an equal level with an attacker. In the video above, the unarmed man was inferior to the attacker. EVEN IF BOTH HAD A GUN THEY WOULD AT LEAST BE ON THE SAME LEVEL.

Read more: Samuel Colt Biography (Inventor) http://www.infoplease.com/biography/var/samuelcolt.html#ixzz3SyeOKa77

[koelen3]

there is a video, showing how an unarmed guy gets robbed with a simple knife

it could not be any clearer that a firearm would have been a gamechanger, resulting in a dead piece of scum and dry pants

BUT STILL the gunhaters come out and write horseshit, it is incredible

Firearms held by both people... would have resulted in 2 dead bodies.

Holy cow, you can't argue with gunhaters 

The attacker was armed with a knife, it is complete nonsense to assume that he would have owned/used a firearm just because the victim could legally have worn one

I don't think it works like that, in fact knives are easier to get than guns so the hurdle (both in obtaining the weapon, and the potential prison time) would have been much higher.

The attacker could legally and easily obtain the knife, while a gun is harder to get, and not legally, for most criminals. Here in Switzerland you can forget about owning a gun legally with a criminal record, same goes for US and most other places.

Recommendation. All gunhaters write a 20 page essay about what this saying means: Colt's guns inspired an old saying: "God created man, Sam Colt made them equal."

it means that guns do not guarantee you win in a conflict, but they will bring you to an equal level with an attacker. In the video above, the unarmed man was inferior to the attacker. EVEN IF BOTH HAD A GUN THEY WOULD AT LEAST BE ON THE SAME LEVEL.

Read more: Samuel Colt Biography (Inventor) http://www.infoplease.com/biography/var/samuelcolt.html#ixzz3SyeOKa77

Nicely said! As i said earlier , guns do not kill people , it's better to have gun on both side

[RodeoX]

The way a person (ab)uses language reveals a great deal about the way they think. That's my point.

I had no idea I was abusing the language by correctly structuring a sentence. But anyway, what would you do then? You see someone shooting up a mall or whatever, what response do you have? I suppose you could show them some statistics or tell them how you think America is mentally ill.  Me, I will be in a position to end this. I hope I never have to put a bullet in some deranged psychopath but I would not hesitate to do so if needed. If you were there at the mall also you would give me anything and everything to save you. The only thing in the world that would matter to you is my gun.

[Beliathon]

The way a person (ab)uses language reveals a great deal about the way they think. That's my point.

I had no idea I was abusing the language by correctly structuring a sentence. But anyway, what would you do then? You see someone shooting up a mall or whatever, what response do you have? I suppose you could show them some statistics or tell them how you think America is mentally ill.  Me, I will be in a position to end this. I hope I never have to put a bullet in some deranged psychopath but I would not hesitate to do so if needed. If you were there at the mall also you would give me anything and everything to save you. The only thing in the world that would matter to you is my gun.

You're living in a self-indulgent paranoid fantasy land if you think owning that gun is ever going to mean you get to play american hero and save a bunch of folks from a shooting spree. Statistically, this is so improbable that it's simply not going to happen. It's revealing that you would choose this example in your argument because the fact that you think this way about your gun is self-delusion. It's a false sense of security, a childish clinging to control over your life (and death) in a world in which that's nigh impossible. This is the problem with american gun mentality. "oh, I need  this because I could get robbed or a burglar could come into my home!" but you'll notice these people never seem to know the burglary rate of their town, or any other relevant facts and statistics about gun ownership in the place they live.

It's a tool for which you have no relevant use, a tool you bought so you can create a certain identity for yourself. That gun is part of who you are. You are no different from suburban white high school nerds who get their mom to buy them a cheap replica sword at the county fair because they "need it". You don't need it. You're never going to need to fire it, and you know it. The sooner you admit this fact to yourself, the better.

[OpenOcean]

I know this may sound really, really terrible... but this a good sign hahaha (I'm really sorry for those parties involved though, seriously). People (thieves in this case) are treating it like currency, straight up.

[RodeoX]

The way a person (ab)uses language ...

I had no idea I was abusing the language ...

You're living in a self-indulgent paranoid fantasy ...

Ok, I'm delusional. So says the guy who thinks he can win a gunfight without a gun.  

Maybe YOU don't need a gun where you live. When I lived in St. Louis my neighbor across the street was killed when shot through the neck at his front door. Another neighbor I didn't really know killed two car jackers and took one bullet in the process. My GF at the time faced 3 violent home invasions. They came to my house also but fled when they saw my gun. Another friend who ran a bike program was shot in the stomach by a 13yo.(On a dare!) In the 90's I heard gunshots all the time and there were places you could not even go. Fortunately where I live now I have less to worry about. Although people here are still killed all the time by armed criminals.


I'm guessing you think the police should handle things. Cops are great at carefully analyzing a crime scene. They will photograph and tag your body, odds are they will even catch your killer. Luckily you will not be alive and don't have to worry about  your concern of accidentally being shot. The police have a much worse record than CCW holders. About 11% of police shootings are wrongful and kill an innocent person. By comparison about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an innocent person.