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February 24, 2015, 06:26:57 AM
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Hey!

Just wondering if things like activity, post count, and time logged in will be carried over into the new forum system?

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February 24, 2015, 06:35:18 AM
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yes, everything will be transferred.

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February 24, 2015, 06:45:52 AM
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i think yes it will applied to next software
btw when they are releasing this , i though it was feb 2015 but its almost passed
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February 24, 2015, 09:51:24 AM
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Hey!

Just wondering if things like activity, post count, and time logged in will be carried over into the new forum system?

Thanks.

You mean our informations ? or the features in general ? if you mean the features then yes , you can see this document right here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bHlm4NQkSzaBTT5tLIqQBmV92wSsbdOX5r-dRR9Dgg0/edit?usp=sharing

If you mean our informations (our activity and post counts etc ...) then Yes too . the Database will be merged to the new software .

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February 24, 2015, 09:42:48 PM
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Yes, all of the features, threads, and users will be carried over to the new forum.
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February 25, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
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Yes, all of the features, threads, and users will be carried over to the new forum.

I don't know but users who aren't inactive after 2011 and probably 2012 shouldn't be carried to new forum or atleast Newbies and Jr. Members except important persons and early testers, eg:- Satoshi. So we can use that names.

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February 25, 2015, 11:33:51 PM
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As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password.

This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that.

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February 26, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
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As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password.

This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that.

K. Thanks for the update.

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February 26, 2015, 10:17:06 AM
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As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password.

Thanks for the update! Will the hashing function be the same? SHA-256?

This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that.

This should probably told before to the users by sending a mass PM using a bot and a 'password meter' would be good IMHO.

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February 26, 2015, 09:05:18 PM
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As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password.

This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that.
I don't think email is a good way for users to create new passwords for their account. I am fairly sure that there are no small number of users who have used a fake/invalid email address to be associated with their account.

It should be trivial for most people to simply change their email address associated with their account however there are probably a good number of people who will not be active around the time the new forum goes live which means they could permanently be locked out of their account.

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March 01, 2015, 01:18:13 AM
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As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password.

This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that.
I don't think email is a good way for users to create new passwords for their account. I am fairly sure that there are no small number of users who have used a fake/invalid email address to be associated with their account.

It should be trivial for most people to simply change their email address associated with their account however there are probably a good number of people who will not be active around the time the new forum goes live which means they could permanently be locked out of their account.

I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account.

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March 01, 2015, 06:28:06 AM
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I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account.

What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst?

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March 01, 2015, 12:16:00 PM
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I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account.

What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst?

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That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

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March 01, 2015, 12:20:30 PM
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I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account.

What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst?

   -MZ

That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

Since you are here taesup , can you please give a hint when the Beta release or the Final release are going to be available for us please Shocked
Just estimated like May-December or whatever .
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March 01, 2015, 12:20:42 PM
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That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

why not?
if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login

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I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account.

What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst?

   -MZ

That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

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This , you are right. Maybe before the migration in the new forum you can add a simple message to the top page (near the forum username):

"Remember to put a valid email, or you will lose your forum account during the migration to the new forum software."
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March 01, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
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That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

why not?
if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login

Copying might leads to errors which will lead to further big problems. So better to be in 'safe zone'.

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This , you are right. Maybe before the migration in the new forum you can add a simple message to the top page (near the forum username):

"Remember to put a valid email, or you will lose your forum account during the migration to the new forum software."

+10.

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March 02, 2015, 06:29:15 AM
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I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account.

What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst?

   -MZ

That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

Since you are here taesup , can you please give a hint when the Beta release or the Final release are going to be available for us please Shocked
Just estimated like May-December or whatever .
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I can't really say but I will say that we're close.

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March 02, 2015, 06:30:50 AM
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That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now.

why not?
if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login

Mostly because we won't have access to it.

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March 02, 2015, 09:23:10 AM
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Will the new forum have the same activity/trust system as the old one?
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