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May 06, 2015, 04:25:30 AM |
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Thats it, lets just wait for numan to clear things up. if he cheated before the withdrawal issue then he has no right to claim his withdraw but if he isnt then admin should process his withdrawal
You are missing my point. If he cheated, he is not due the money. BUT SOMEONE IS DUE THE MONEY! If he cheated, then he cheated the other players. When will the affected players get their money? OP has already said that he refused to pay the money to numan, so why is he not refunding the players who were cheated? Do you understand how this smells very very fishy? I know your logic， numan's money is from our bonus. not from other players so we don't have unfairness. |
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May 06, 2015, 04:31:09 AM |
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Thats it, lets just wait for numan to clear things up. if he cheated before the withdrawal issue then he has no right to claim his withdraw but if he isnt then admin should process his withdrawal
You are missing my point. If he cheated, he is not due the money. BUT SOMEONE IS DUE THE MONEY! If he cheated, then he cheated the other players. When will the affected players get their money? OP has already said that he refused to pay the money to numan, so why is he not refunding the players who were cheated? Do you understand how this smells very very fishy? I know your logic， numan's money is from our bonus. not from other players so we don't have unfairness. So you really dont have plans on giving his money? If you dont have plans on paying people their money even it comes from the giveaway why you started tge giveaway? |
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May 06, 2015, 04:32:26 AM |
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Thats it, lets just wait for numan to clear things up. if he cheated before the withdrawal issue then he has no right to claim his withdraw but if he isnt then admin should process his withdrawal
You are missing my point. If he cheated, he is not due the money. BUT SOMEONE IS DUE THE MONEY! If he cheated, then he cheated the other players. When will the affected players get their money? OP has already said that he refused to pay the money to numan, so why is he not refunding the players who were cheated? Do you understand how this smells very very fishy? I know your logic， numan's money is from our bonus. not from other players so we don't have unfairness. Please post the proof that that player got .5 BTC from your bonus. Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago). |
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girlbtc.com (OP)
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May 06, 2015, 04:41:14 AM |
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oh my friends, I don't want to talk about it anymore ,it seems it cost us a lot of time talking about cheaters and scammers since our establishment two months ago.
we are ambitious when we start this site. we do think fairness will bring us players.
I will send this 0.5 btc to some escrow. so that you don't think we are holding some players' btc. and I have pmed master-P
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May 06, 2015, 04:43:08 AM |
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oh my friends, I don't want to talk about it anymore ,it seems it cost us a lot of time talking about cheaters and scammers since our establishment two months ago.
we are ambitious when we start this site. we do think fairness will bring us players.
I will send this 0.5 btc to some escrow. so that you don't think we are holding some players' btc. and I have pmed master-P
Why it needs to be escrowrd? Why just send the guy's .5btc withdrawal and this is done. you are crazy kid man |
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May 06, 2015, 04:49:07 AM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I've been asked by the site admin to hold 0.50 BTC in escrow in the address below: 1645zCUPhnVfcym3dXdRbrdsG9cXqzpe5X Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=967263.0Escrow by Master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.8 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJVSZ0oAAoJEIukx+duFL7CkM4IAMJOiyGSE/V+F9tgqGUFey7g g4M55w03j6+jG660a4QiuVNREPh7wIZBNPjaE/3FPektq/fCTfYPZDrt1cTV9F9m wXUyct04VsuaFGSIUQwmspNbvStmuAa+cVhQw1zKxdMgdTmOBIsZV+MvGb/LM7u8 /jPai5SEnV8XOJ0u0UGvqbO1DMwl4lJBf649va+yCxkbzXaXjPDkdJmtTs3axUKj vGi6jSopNAvtu/mAhLRoCnngLOqOd83n2eiUvUvSIbc5DUHiYefz4V5U/LT32dJr bCqCiBLshw4SFvFxR+1CbG2pVgxnqnpYqxHF9eUWsa1g8p3kBwdXrPLzcuQYVL4= =MBWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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May 06, 2015, 05:02:52 AM |
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Why cant you answer my question? why you need escrow if you can just process the withdraw and this is done |
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CryForMeSky
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May 06, 2015, 05:02:59 AM |
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See how the owner of the site makes a claim, gets asked for proof, and then tries to redirect people?
Please post the proof that that player got .5BTC from your bonus.
Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago).
The .5 BTC is somebodys. Whose is it? Is it numans? Send it to him (now 1 BTC because of the withdraw delay bonus). Was it cheated from other players? Send it to them to refund them for what they got cheated out of. Is it yours? Show proof. Talk is cheap. You can sit here and insult people all you want but you are digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole. Please back up the things that you say or I wouldn't be surprised if you start getting more neg rep. To the players on the site: please consider withdrawing (or attempting to withdraw) your funds. This is very suspicious behavior. |
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May 06, 2015, 05:05:09 AM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I've been asked by the site admin to hold 0.50 BTC in escrow in the address below: 1645zCUPhnVfcym3dXdRbrdsG9cXqzpe5X Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=967263.0Escrow by Master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.8 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJVSZ0oAAoJEIukx+duFL7CkM4IAMJOiyGSE/V+F9tgqGUFey7g g4M55w03j6+jG660a4QiuVNREPh7wIZBNPjaE/3FPektq/fCTfYPZDrt1cTV9F9m wXUyct04VsuaFGSIUQwmspNbvStmuAa+cVhQw1zKxdMgdTmOBIsZV+MvGb/LM7u8 /jPai5SEnV8XOJ0u0UGvqbO1DMwl4lJBf649va+yCxkbzXaXjPDkdJmtTs3axUKj vGi6jSopNAvtu/mAhLRoCnngLOqOd83n2eiUvUvSIbc5DUHiYefz4V5U/LT32dJr bCqCiBLshw4SFvFxR+1CbG2pVgxnqnpYqxHF9eUWsa1g8p3kBwdXrPLzcuQYVL4= =MBWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Is it possible for you to fill people in on the nature of this escrow? Are you just holding it until OP says he wants it back? Are you waiting on proof to see who actually lays claim to the disputed funds? |
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girlbtc.com (OP)
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May 06, 2015, 05:05:48 AM |
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stop argument please , I am tired of it .and come and check our game onevsone http://girlbtc.com/trade/onevsone/ . that's fair enough to bring your attention any delay of withdraw will be paid 5%/hour
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May 06, 2015, 05:12:49 AM
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I've been asked by the site admin to hold 0.50 BTC in escrow in the address below: 1645zCUPhnVfcym3dXdRbrdsG9cXqzpe5X Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=967263.0Escrow by Master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.8 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJVSZ0oAAoJEIukx+duFL7CkM4IAMJOiyGSE/V+F9tgqGUFey7g g4M55w03j6+jG660a4QiuVNREPh7wIZBNPjaE/3FPektq/fCTfYPZDrt1cTV9F9m wXUyct04VsuaFGSIUQwmspNbvStmuAa+cVhQw1zKxdMgdTmOBIsZV+MvGb/LM7u8 /jPai5SEnV8XOJ0u0UGvqbO1DMwl4lJBf649va+yCxkbzXaXjPDkdJmtTs3axUKj vGi6jSopNAvtu/mAhLRoCnngLOqOd83n2eiUvUvSIbc5DUHiYefz4V5U/LT32dJr bCqCiBLshw4SFvFxR+1CbG2pVgxnqnpYqxHF9eUWsa1g8p3kBwdXrPLzcuQYVL4= =MBWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Is it possible for you to fill people in on the nature of this escrow? Are you just holding it until OP says he wants it back? Are you waiting on proof to see who actually lays claim to the disputed funds? I am currently reviewing the thread to see what this is all about. If any payments are owed then I will surely release those payments with any funds held in the escrow address. edit: this has since been resolved and funds were returned to site admins. |
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xKomatsu
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May 06, 2015, 05:15:39 AM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I've been asked by the site admin to hold 0.50 BTC in escrow in the address below: 1645zCUPhnVfcym3dXdRbrdsG9cXqzpe5X Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=967263.0Escrow by Master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.8 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJVSZ0oAAoJEIukx+duFL7CkM4IAMJOiyGSE/V+F9tgqGUFey7g g4M55w03j6+jG660a4QiuVNREPh7wIZBNPjaE/3FPektq/fCTfYPZDrt1cTV9F9m wXUyct04VsuaFGSIUQwmspNbvStmuAa+cVhQw1zKxdMgdTmOBIsZV+MvGb/LM7u8 /jPai5SEnV8XOJ0u0UGvqbO1DMwl4lJBf649va+yCxkbzXaXjPDkdJmtTs3axUKj vGi6jSopNAvtu/mAhLRoCnngLOqOd83n2eiUvUvSIbc5DUHiYefz4V5U/LT32dJr bCqCiBLshw4SFvFxR+1CbG2pVgxnqnpYqxHF9eUWsa1g8p3kBwdXrPLzcuQYVL4= =MBWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Is it possible for you to fill people in on the nature of this escrow? Are you just holding it until OP says he wants it back? Are you waiting on proof to see who actually lays claim to the disputed funds? I am currently reviewing the thread to see what this is all about. If any payments are owed then I will surely release those payments with any funds held in the escrow address. it is for the withdrawal of numanoid (numan in girlbtc.com) |
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May 06, 2015, 05:18:20 AM |
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stop argument please , I am tired of it .and come and check our game onevsone http://girlbtc.com/trade/onevsone/ . that's fair enough to bring your attention any delay of withdraw will be paid 5%/hour
I don't understand. YOU made certain claims. I am just asking you to back up those claims with facts. Don't you understand...if you can successfully do this, you won't get neg repped and everyone will see that you are as fair as you claim you are. If you do not/can not do it, you will get neg repped because you are basically admitting that you are lying. It's very easy, all I'm asking you to do is to show proof that backs up your statements and decisions. Here are those questions, one more time: Please post the proof that that player got .5BTC from your bonus. Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago). |
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girlbtc.com (OP)
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May 06, 2015, 06:51:55 AM |
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stop argument please , I am tired of it .and come and check our game onevsone http://girlbtc.com/trade/onevsone/ . that's fair enough to bring your attention any delay of withdraw will be paid 5%/hour
I don't understand. YOU made certain claims. I am just asking you to back up those claims with facts. Don't you understand...if you can successfully do this, you won't get neg repped and everyone will see that you are as fair as you claim you are. If you do not/can not do it, you will get neg repped because you are basically admitting that you are lying. It's very easy, all I'm asking you to do is to show proof that backs up your statements and decisions. Here are those questions, one more time: Please post the proof that that player got .5BTC from your bonus. Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago). above thread show numanoid TheGrapist and BitMarshall are same person https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033423.0 above thread show TheGrapist dznuts85 are same person they are a big scammer team Wow I am threatened  the best solution is to stop the arguement ,and we are waiting our designer to show you all his perfect design for onevsone. come and check your luck. http://girlbtc.com/trade/onevsone/ |
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May 06, 2015, 06:59:10 AM |
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above thread show numanoid TheGrapist and BitMarshall are same person above thread show TheGrapist dznuts85 are same person they are a big scammer team Wow I am threatened the best solution is to stop the arguement ,and we are waiting our designer to show you all his perfect design for onevsone. None of that (seems to) has anything to do with what I am saying. Why are you trying to avoid the questions? Why are you trying to promote your game when you are being accused of shady behavior? Is this like what you did a month ago where you told the player "I won't process your withdraw unless you get more people to play on my site"? Once again, here are the questions you need to answer. These are questions that came up directly from claims/accusations that YOU made. Your refusal to answer them in any way shape or form is suspicious at best: Please post the proof that that player got .5BTC from your bonus. Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago). |
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May 06, 2015, 07:05:46 AM |
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Q:Please post the proof that that player got .5BTC from your bonus. A:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=988264.0 read this thread my friend. find where is the 0.5btc or more. Q:Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago). A: it is complex. to be sure they are one person we need more proofs. so it takes time. no explanation is good enough to argue with a professional scammer. he has a lot of accounts. I once want to ban some ,but the arguement goes up , and we forced to release them. and this time I want to clean it up. it is good for all the forum.
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May 06, 2015, 07:29:41 AM |
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Looks like you ran a promo, people signed up for it, and you paid them out as promised once they fulfilled the requirements. You then found out that three of the names were the same person. Now, in your initial post you never said this wasn't allowed, and as BCT is fine with people having multiple accounts (as you know, since you have more than one account), it isn't very logical why you would withhold payments if each of the names successfully fulfilled the requirements you put forth. Is it a little unethical on his part? Yes. But it seems like it should be allowed, especially since you got the intended advertisement out of it. But, you two settled that situation and you allowed him to continue to advertise for you for several more weeks. Are you claiming that this money, which you paid to him when he was the only person advertising for your site, is invalid? Why? Why were you find with paying this money to him over a month ago but now you are trying to rescind it? Q:Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago).
A: it is complex. to be sure they are one person we need more proofs. so it takes time. no explanation is good enough to argue with a professional scammer. he has a lot of accounts. I once want to ban some ,but the arguement goes up , and we forced to release them. and this time
I want to clean it up. it is good for all the forum.
None of that makes sense. You want to ban him, but you didn't. He's a scammer, but you haven't proved anything he did that was a scam. It's very confusing. It seems like you are making up words just to fit a narrative but there are no facts to support it. I have no idea why you think people will play on your site when you have a history of not paying out players. If you have proof that what you are doing is valid, I have no idea why you would refuse to post it and continue to look bad. |
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May 06, 2015, 07:40:35 AM |
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Looks like you ran a promo, people signed up for it, and you paid them out as promised once they fulfilled the requirements. You then found out that three of the names were the same person. Now, in your initial post you never said this wasn't allowed, and as BCT is fine with people having multiple accounts (as you know, since you have more than one account), it isn't very logical why you would withhold payments if each of the names successfully fulfilled the requirements you put forth. Is it a little unethical on his part? Yes. But it seems like it should be allowed, especially since you got the intended advertisement out of it. But, you two settled that situation and you allowed him to continue to advertise for you for several more weeks. Are you claiming that this money, which you paid to him when he was the only person advertising for your site, is invalid? Why? Why were you find with paying this money to him over a month ago but now you are trying to rescind it? Q:Please post the explanation of why you didn't ban his account when you were first made aware of whatever was going on (two months ago).
A: it is complex. to be sure they are one person we need more proofs. so it takes time. no explanation is good enough to argue with a professional scammer. he has a lot of accounts. I once want to ban some ,but the arguement goes up , and we forced to release them. and this time
I want to clean it up. it is good for all the forum.
None of that makes sense. You want to ban him, but you didn't. He's a scammer, but you haven't proved anything he did that was a scam. It's very confusing. It seems like you are making up words just to fit a narrative but there are no facts to support it. I have no idea why you think people will play on your site when you have a history of not paying out players. If you have proof that what you are doing is valid, I have no idea why you would refuse to post it and continue to look bad. oh my god ,why are you so serious about this , I do think numan should be here not you , my friend. money is now in escrow's addy , neither me and numan will attach it. right? see forward |
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May 06, 2015, 08:07:46 AM |
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oh my god ,why are you so serious about this , I do think numan should be here not you , my friend.
money is now in escrow's addy , neither me and numan will attach it. right?
see forward
Protecting the community is everyone's responsibility. It takes me a minute or two to point out to logical inconsistencies in the things that you are saying, and if that protects just one person from getting scammed then I think that's a good thing. I don't understand why you are getting so upset that someone is asking you to prove the allegations that you make, but that's pretty telling now isn't it. You continue to avoid all questions, say things with no proof, and attempt to deflect with misguided anger. The worst part is, the things you are saying may be true but you are handling things in such a horrible, unprofessional way that it reflects very poorly on you and your site. |
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