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July 31, 2012, 04:01:33 AM
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Clearly, Mr. Wubbles is trolling. He claimed he:

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MrWubbles: I stole the exchanges coin
MrWubbles: in their cold storage wallet

Firstly, it is unlikely btc-e has a cold storage wallet. Secondly, you'd have to be a moron to believe that it can be stolen (as that would require physical access to the computer.

Agreed, unlikely they have cold storage.

However, there may be people who have backups of the cold storage wallet on the same live system, and if the vps (if it runs on a vps) is compromised, there may be clues leading to further compromise of personal computers for instance, if more servers are used.

Poor admin (unless he's in on it of course)
It is only remotely likely that the VPS was compromised. If it was, there would be more constructive things for the hacker to do than buy up all those coins. The hacker obviously isn't stupid, so the chance the VPS was compromised is low.
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July 31, 2012, 04:02:20 AM
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It is only remotely likely that the VPS was compromised. If it was, there would be more constructive things for the hacker to do than buy up all those coins. The hacker obviously isn't stupid, so the chance the VPS was compromised is low.

Given the bitcoinica hack, you shouldn't build your exchange on a VPS?

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July 31, 2012, 04:05:24 AM
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It is only remotely likely that the VPS was compromised. If it was, there would be more constructive things for the hacker to do than buy up all those coins. The hacker obviously isn't stupid, so the chance the VPS was compromised is low.

Given the bitcoinica hack, you shouldn't build your exchange on a VPS?
And the chances that BTC-E cares, much less heeds, security advice is?
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July 31, 2012, 04:07:41 AM
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Why can't I talk in btc-e chat?

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July 31, 2012, 04:08:54 AM
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You don't use MySQL or any database template for finances. You can't go any less than custom for these types of things.

BTC-E learned the hard way.

No database template... So what sort of custom solutions are you suggesting? Custom database software? I would have thought that a properly set up and designed database would be excellent for financial purposes due to the ACID nature of them. Please do share your thoughts on this, I am very interested.
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July 31, 2012, 04:09:13 AM
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Why is it unlikely btc-e have no cold storage wallet. Doesn't all exchange have a cold wallet?

Not in mother Russia apparently. 

Why can't I talk in btc-e chat?

You likely logged out.  Try logging back in.
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July 31, 2012, 04:18:34 AM
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Damn man, we *so* don't need this. I can only guess how this is going to spread throughout the internet. My sympathies to those affected, but honestly all you can really do to mitigate risk is not hold balances. I realize that isn't a choice everyone can stick to, but it sure helps.

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July 31, 2012, 04:19:21 AM
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You don't use MySQL or any database template for finances. You can't go any less than custom for these types of things.

BTC-E learned the hard way.

No database template... So what sort of custom solutions are you suggesting? Custom database software? I would have thought that a properly set up and designed database would be excellent for financial purposes due to the ACID nature of them. Please do share your thoughts on this, I am very interested.
I don't know much. I just think database design (from the ground-up) should be structured and limited, especially when it comes to finances. Security should be inherent and you don't see that in one-size-fits-all solutions.

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July 31, 2012, 04:26:38 AM
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Has anyone tried buying/selling with success?

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July 31, 2012, 04:28:51 AM
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Has anyone tried buying/selling with success?

that's not the problem, the problem is withdrawing any USD (that doesn't exist)

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July 31, 2012, 04:30:36 AM
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Has anyone been thinking.. That MAYBE this is REAL? Think about it, It is possible someone threw a million dollars onto btc-e from LR and fucked up the market. MAYBE YOU COULD SELL YOUR COINS FOR $60 RIGHT NOW.
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July 31, 2012, 04:30:44 AM
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any thoughts on how this will effect the price of bitcoin?

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July 31, 2012, 04:31:27 AM
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Has anyone tried buying/selling with success?

that's not the problem, the problem is withdrawing any USD (that doesn't exist)

Sell BTC for fake USD, then use that same fake USD to buy bitcoins back and withdraw to wallet. The USD may be fake and not actually there but it should still be able to be traded for BTC

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July 31, 2012, 04:31:31 AM
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Has anyone tried buying/selling with success?

that's not the problem, the problem is withdrawing any USD (that doesn't exist)

USD Withdraws take up to 24 hours.
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July 31, 2012, 04:31:40 AM
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Has anyone been thinking.. That MAYBE this is REAL? Think about it, It is possible someone threw a million dollars onto btc-e from LR and fucked up the market. MAYBE YOU COULD SELL YOUR COINS FOR $60 RIGHT NOW.

Why would they do that when they could buy on other exchanges for much less


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July 31, 2012, 04:32:38 AM
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I guess we'll find out if it is 'real' when it crosses the theoretical $99 barrier. I still think it is a hack. Bitcoin charts shows a recent spike of $80, so not long now...

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btceUSD#rg1ztgSzm1g10zm2g25

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July 31, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
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made 900USD off of the trade bubble. Traded the  USD into LTC to transfer out because I dont think that the website will still be there tomorrow....when I went to withdraw my LTC the page timed out, lost all my LTC lol. Easy come easy go. Hopefully that 900USD worth of LTC wasn't "Real"   Cry


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July 31, 2012, 04:34:32 AM
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Just found out about this. Anyone else able to withdraw their BTC? The site shows my BTC withdraw as completed but its not showing up on my end yet.
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July 31, 2012, 04:35:15 AM
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Why would they do that when they could buy on other exchanges for much less

Because with the price fluctuating there is money to be made. I x4'd my money today because of this.
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July 31, 2012, 04:35:23 AM
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Just found out about this. Anyone else able to withdraw their BTC? The site shows my BTC withdraw as completed but its not showing up on my end yet.

Same here...
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