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July 31, 2012, 05:17:17 AM
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Seriously, how hard would it be to write some code which starts ringing your phone/activates an alarm in your home or whatever when this kind of unusual activity takes place?  It's ridiculous how often these things don't get stopped at the outset because there's no system in place for the owner to be contacted and notified immediately.

It would not be very hard. But what about cost of implementation? Who in the right mind would pay to implement that type of system for the thousands of users of BTC-E?

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July 31, 2012, 05:20:43 AM
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It would not be very hard. But what about cost of implementation? Who in the right mind would pay to implement that type of system for the thousands of users of BTC-E?



Sorry, I meant only for the alarm to notify the site owner so that they can suspend trading, back up the database, take the site offline or whatever.  More than once, bad stuff has happened while owners are asleep and no-one's been able to contact them to let them know strange shit is happening.  In the physical business world, there's usually a system in place for businesses to be contacted if they're broken into out of hours.

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July 31, 2012, 05:22:07 AM
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It would not be very hard. But what about cost of implementation? Who in the right mind would pay to implement that type of system for the thousands of users of BTC-E?


I think this guy had the right idea :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96840.msg1067100#msg1067100
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July 31, 2012, 05:24:20 AM
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It would not be very hard. But what about cost of implementation? Who in the right mind would pay to implement that type of system for the thousands of users of BTC-E?



Sorry, I meant only for the alarm to notify the site owner so that they can suspend trading, back up the database, take the site offline or whatever.  More than once, bad stuff has happened while owners are asleep and no-one's been able to contact them to let them know strange shit is happening.  In the physical business world, there's usually a system in place for businesses to be contacted if they're broken into out of hours.

I agree. Every exchange and Bitcoin holder should implement and build something to this sort.

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July 31, 2012, 05:24:33 AM
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It would not be very hard. But what about cost of implementation? Who in the right mind would pay to implement that type of system for the thousands of users of BTC-E?


I think this guy had the right idea :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96840.msg1067100#msg1067100

My exchange in development already have a different wallet for each user.
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July 31, 2012, 05:25:23 AM
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It would not be very hard. But what about cost of implementation? Who in the right mind would pay to implement that type of system for the thousands of users of BTC-E?



Sorry, I meant only for the alarm to notify the site owner so that they can suspend trading, back up the database, take the site offline or whatever.  More than once, bad stuff has happened while owners are asleep and no-one's been able to contact them to let them know strange shit is happening.  In the physical business world, there's usually a system in place for businesses to be contacted if they're broken into out of hours.

I agree. Every exchange and Bitcoin holder should implement and build something to this sort.


This isn't difficulty to implement.
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July 31, 2012, 05:25:53 AM
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My exchange in development already have a different wallet for each user.
So you don't plan to do hot/cold wallets? Or you are going to have two wallets for each user?

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July 31, 2012, 05:26:54 AM
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Code:
07-31 00:21:38 buy 40 1989.9 79596
07-31 00:21:37 buy 40 1984.41 79376.4
07-31 00:21:36 buy 40 1986.34 79453.6
07-31 00:21:35 buy 40 1987.18 79487.2
07-31 00:21:34 buy 40 1984.41 79376.4
07-31 00:21:32 buy 40 1983.99 79359.6
07-31 00:21:32 buy 40 2.1984 87.936
07-31 00:21:31 buy 40 1.8016 72.064
07-31 00:21:31 buy 30 1984.39 59531.7
07-31 00:21:30 buy 30 1985.94 59578.2
07-31 00:21:29 buy 30 1986.93 59607.9
07-31 00:21:28 buy 30 1984.94 59548.2
07-31 00:21:28 buy 30 1987.19 59615.7
07-31 00:21:27 buy 30 1985.94 59578.2
07-31 00:21:26 buy 30 1984.48 59534.4
07-31 00:21:25 buy 30 1986.19 59585.7
07-31 00:21:24 buy 30 1983.96 59518.8
07-31 00:21:22 buy 30 1988.04 59641.2
07-31 00:21:20 buy 30 1976 59280
07-31 00:21:19 buy 30 951.006 28530.18
07-31 00:21:19 buy 25 1035.92 25898
07-31 00:21:18 buy 25 1984.95 49623.75
07-31 00:21:17 buy 25 1985.54 49638.5
07-31 00:21:16 buy 25 1986.69 49667.25
07-31 00:21:16 buy 25 1982.48 49562
07-31 00:21:15 buy 25 5 125
07-31 00:21:15 buy 25 1567.42 39185.5
07-31 00:21:15 buy 20 416.641 8332.82
07-31 00:21:14 buy 20 5 100
07-31 00:21:14 buy 20 1993.15 39863
07-31 00:21:14 buy 20 15 300
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 1993.13 39862.6
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 976.088 19521.76
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 1960.2 39204
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 392.342 7846.84

that's more than 1.6 million $ of most likely fake USD to purchase and withdraw BTCs at prices arround 40btc
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July 31, 2012, 05:29:25 AM
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My exchange in development already have a different wallet for each user.
So you don't plan to do hot/cold wallets? Or you are going to have two wallets for each user?

What I can tell you is that it'll have many security layers.
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July 31, 2012, 05:59:14 AM
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This stuff has to happen if we are ever to learn. Bitcoins will always be solid, but exchanges have  aways to go.

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July 31, 2012, 06:00:27 AM
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Code:
07-31 00:21:38 buy 40 1989.9 79596
07-31 00:21:37 buy 40 1984.41 79376.4
07-31 00:21:36 buy 40 1986.34 79453.6
07-31 00:21:35 buy 40 1987.18 79487.2
07-31 00:21:34 buy 40 1984.41 79376.4
07-31 00:21:32 buy 40 1983.99 79359.6
07-31 00:21:32 buy 40 2.1984 87.936
07-31 00:21:31 buy 40 1.8016 72.064
07-31 00:21:31 buy 30 1984.39 59531.7
07-31 00:21:30 buy 30 1985.94 59578.2
07-31 00:21:29 buy 30 1986.93 59607.9
07-31 00:21:28 buy 30 1984.94 59548.2
07-31 00:21:28 buy 30 1987.19 59615.7
07-31 00:21:27 buy 30 1985.94 59578.2
07-31 00:21:26 buy 30 1984.48 59534.4
07-31 00:21:25 buy 30 1986.19 59585.7
07-31 00:21:24 buy 30 1983.96 59518.8
07-31 00:21:22 buy 30 1988.04 59641.2
07-31 00:21:20 buy 30 1976 59280
07-31 00:21:19 buy 30 951.006 28530.18
07-31 00:21:19 buy 25 1035.92 25898
07-31 00:21:18 buy 25 1984.95 49623.75
07-31 00:21:17 buy 25 1985.54 49638.5
07-31 00:21:16 buy 25 1986.69 49667.25
07-31 00:21:16 buy 25 1982.48 49562
07-31 00:21:15 buy 25 5 125
07-31 00:21:15 buy 25 1567.42 39185.5
07-31 00:21:15 buy 20 416.641 8332.82
07-31 00:21:14 buy 20 5 100
07-31 00:21:14 buy 20 1993.15 39863
07-31 00:21:14 buy 20 15 300
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 1993.13 39862.6
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 976.088 19521.76
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 1960.2 39204
07-31 00:21:13 buy 20 392.342 7846.84

that's more than 1.6 million $ of most likely fake USD to purchase and withdraw BTCs at prices arround 40btc

Any chance the money came from sold LTC that were forked due to successful 51% attack?
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July 31, 2012, 06:04:46 AM
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Any chance the money came from sold LTC that were forked due to successful 51% attack?
No.  The exchange owner confirmed it was a hack, and we can assume the hacker created large amounts of fake usd.  The amount of usd involved was an order of magnitude higher than LTC's market cap.

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July 31, 2012, 06:04:57 AM
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Any chance the money came from sold LTC that were forked due to successful 51% attack?
No.
http://marketscry.info/?s=ltcusd&t=5000

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July 31, 2012, 06:09:40 AM
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This stuff has to happen if we are ever to learn. Bitcoins will always be solid, but exchanges have  aways to go.

Pretty slow learners then.  It's not like any of the hack/cracks to date have been sophisticated or involved zero day exploits.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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July 31, 2012, 06:12:04 AM
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This stuff has to happen if we are ever to learn. Bitcoins will always be solid, but exchanges have  aways to go.

Pretty slow learners then.  It's not like any of the hack/cracks to date have been sophisticated or involved zero day exploits.

Amen to that.

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July 31, 2012, 06:16:34 AM
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July 31, 2012, 06:42:25 AM
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So, how low do you all think BTC will go with tomorrow's inevitable post-hack panic sales? I'm calling $4.50.
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July 31, 2012, 06:43:35 AM
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So, how low do you all think BTC will go with tomorrow's inevitable post-hack panic sales? I'm calling $4.50.

It's ramped to $9.3 so far tonight, so I'm calling $9.8 by the end of the week.

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July 31, 2012, 06:47:16 AM
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Just wait until BTC-E reverses transactions and/or refuses USD withdrawals.
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July 31, 2012, 06:47:48 AM
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Just wait until BTC-E reverses transactions and/or refuses USD withdrawals.

No thanks... this train has left the station.

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