Bought an account , and received a negative reputation a month later

[TheButterZone]

-snip- If this was my forum, every sold account would be banned, with some sort of algorithm to detect it (password change forces logout and immediate relogin from same IP, perhaps).

-snip-Account sales should be banned here -snip-

Obvious solution is obvious. And yet... It'll never happen.

Maybe after we hit some magic number of Meta topics over account sales turning to shit.

As I hinted at here, anybody can change their forum timezone to make screenshotted posts/PMs appear to be at different times (at intervals +/- 1 hour or more) without needing (and being detected as) Photoshops.

Why the obsession with having multiple accounts with stale positive ratings and negs & neutrals most recently?
Minor trust score algorithm change - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066857.0;all

[chriswen]

-snip- If this was my forum, every sold account would be banned, with some sort of algorithm to detect it (password change forces logout and immediate relogin from same IP, perhaps).

-snip-Account sales should be banned here -snip-

Obvious solution is obvious. And yet... It'll never happen.

Maybe after we hit some magic number of Meta topics over account sales turning to shit.

As I hinted at here, anybody can change their forum timezone to make screenshotted posts/PMs appear to be at different times (at intervals +/- 1 hour or more) without needing (and being detected as) Photoshops.

Why the obsession with having multiple accounts with stale positive ratings and negs & neutrals most recently?
Minor trust score algorithm change - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066857.0;all

oh I don't know why I never offsetted my time zone.  That's probably really useful.

[TheButterZone]

The shitstorm about trust ratings is happening because:
1. Perfect opportunity to bump post count. The reason behind most posts nowadays.
2. This forum is no longer about Bitcoin, it's about scratching out a living from spam and second-rate drama.

Hmm...

- We pay 0.0007 BTC per post (max 0.035/week).

That's 50 paid posts per week max, but...

Rules
- You must have no negative feedback points

So no posts can be claimed for pay. Why even have that sig on the account then?

[TheButterZone]

I thought in the shower, maybe it would be best if Ume refunded whoever bought Twipple, Twipple got nuked/permabanned*, and whoever's posting on Twipple now simply used one of their other accounts from now on.

*Because whoever did the begging on the Twipple account lit a time-delay fuse to detonate a bomb after the "account sale", which cannot be proven actually occurred, by a preponderance of evidence.

[Twipple]

I thought in the shower, maybe it would be best if Ume refunded whoever bought Twipple, Twipple got nuked/permabanned*, and whoever's posting on Twipple now simply used one of their other accounts from now on.

This would. But if you look at it the other way, the trust that you and Quickseller added was in March, and the account was sold at January end, and is now a Snr Member. But Still yeah a refund would be fine. But would be better if you can sort it out, that I am willing to provide you all proof .

*Because whoever did the begging on the Twipple account lit a time-delay fuse to detonate a bomb after the "account sale", which cannot be proven actually occurred, by a preponderance of evidence.

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As I hinted at here, anybody can change their forum timezone to make screenshotted posts/PMs appear to be at different times (at intervals +/- 1 hour or more) without needing (and being detected as) Photoshops.

Why the obsession with having multiple accounts with stale positive ratings and negs & neutrals most recently?
Minor trust score algorithm change - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066857.0;all

Well, Time Zone can be changed, but I am more than willing to have an escrow log in to both accounts to make sure the time zones are same, and have them confirm that the message that I received from Ume, was after he sent you that message.

[TheButterZone]

I thought in the shower, maybe it would be best if Ume refunded whoever bought Twipple, Twipple got nuked/permabanned*, and whoever's posting on Twipple now simply used one of their other accounts from now on.

This would. But if you look at it the other way, the trust that you and Quickseller added was in March, and the account was sold at January end, and is now a Snr Member. But Still yeah a refund would be fine. But would be better if you can sort it out, that I am willing to provide you all proof .

Twipple is a Full Member as of now, NOT Senior. I don't foresee Quickseller removing his trust, so Twipple will remain screwed on trust no matter what. And I really FUCKING HATE HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF:

I could have sworn my initial negative on Twipple (which might have showed under untrusted feedback) was on Jan 31 2015, the day I got the begging PM, and I deleted/replaced it later to shorten my Dropbox URL. Is there a ratings log that shows removals?

[Umekhan]

Well sir if you have any questions to Ume you can ask me ..
i forgot the password lol 

also , if twipple ask for refund i can refund even more. but with negative feed i cant sorry.

[TheButterZone]

Well sir if you have any questions to Ume you can ask me ..
i forgot the password lol  

also , if twipple ask for refund i can refund even more. but with negative feed i cant sorry.

Negative feedback is irrelevant. Someone burned Twipple by begging from it the same day that it was sold (or "sold"). Twipple should be nuked/permabanned.

*Because whoever did the begging on the Twipple account lit a time-delay fuse to detonate a bomb after the "account sale", which cannot be proven actually occurred, by a preponderance of evidence.

[Twipple]

Well sir if you have any questions to Ume you can ask me ..
i forgot the password lol  

also , if twipple ask for refund i can refund even more. but with negative feed i cant sorry.

Negative feedback is irrelevant. Someone burned Twipple by begging from it the same day that it was sold (or "sold"). Twipple should be nuked/permabanned.

*Because whoever did the begging on the Twipple account lit a time-delay fuse to detonate a bomb after the "account sale", which cannot be proven actually occurred, by a preponderance of evidence.

And Why is that ? I bought the account. Accounts don't get permabanned for negative trust or begging. I also have enough evidence to prove it was Ume.

[Twipple]

I thought in the shower, maybe it would be best if Ume refunded whoever bought Twipple, Twipple got nuked/permabanned*, and whoever's posting on Twipple now simply used one of their other accounts from now on.

This would. But if you look at it the other way, the trust that you and Quickseller added was in March, and the account was sold at January end, and is now a Snr Member. But Still yeah a refund would be fine. But would be better if you can sort it out, that I am willing to provide you all proof .

Twipple is a Full Member as of now, NOT Senior. I don't foresee Quickseller removing his trust, so Twipple will remain screwed on trust no matter what. And I really FUCKING HATE HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF:

I could have sworn my initial negative on Twipple (which might have showed under untrusted feedback) was on Jan 31 2015, the day I got the begging PM, and I deleted/replaced it later to shorten my Dropbox URL. Is there a ratings log that shows removals?

It will turn to a senior within the week. I don't understand why you wouldn't remove the negative trust if I am giving you sufficient proof that it was Ume who begged from the account and is the person who deserves the negative trust. If you want, I can offer you money for it, but can't do anything more.

What more proof do you want to prove that it was Ume ?
You wanted proof of the password change at first, which I specially had to request from theymos, and I provided it to you. I don't see any other reason for you to not remove the negative trust.

[TheButterZone]

You wanted proof of the password change at first

Well you said you wanted the IP proof, and thats exactly what I requested and got for you.

Twipple, it appears you will never STOP forcing me to repeat myself, never STOP ignoring what I actually said and never STOP engaging in revisionist history, so I'm done with your endless BS. /unwatch

Ok, then the only PM I'm interested in at this point is from a mod/staff member who can show a preponderance of the evidence (logs, hostnames, etc) one way or the other. Don't PM me again Twipple, unless a mod/staff has told you they PMed me that first.

With only a log of these ridiculous password changes being inconclusive, the preponderance has not been reached.

the preponderance has not been reached.

[Twipple]

You wanted proof of the password change at first

Twipple, it appears you will never STOP forcing me to repeat myself, never STOP ignoring what I actually said and never STOP engaging in revisionist history, so I'm done with your endless BS. /unwatch

Ok, then the only PM I'm interested in at this point is from a mod/staff member who can show a preponderance of the evidence (logs, hostnames, etc) one way or the other. Don't PM me again Twipple, unless a mod/staff has told you they PMed me that first.

With only a log of these ridiculous password changes being inconclusive, the preponderance has not been reached.

the preponderance has not been reached.

Well you said you wanted the IP proof, and thats exactly what I requested and got for you. Then how has your preponderance not been reached ?
You are also choosing to ignore any proof I am giving you proving that it was indeed Ume who sent the message to you.

[Twipple]

Well sir if you have any questions to Ume you can ask me ..
i forgot the password lol  

also , if twipple ask for refund i can refund even more. but with negative feed i cant sorry.

Negative feedback is irrelevant. Someone burned Twipple by begging from it the same day that it was sold (or "sold").

Since I donot see you replying, I would like you to consider this.  I provided you with all the proof and the time stamps of the message that was sent to you, and the message that was sent to me with the account details. All prove that it was the previous account holder who had sent that message to you. But why even after all that is it not evident that it was Ume who sent the message ?

[Umekhan]

I did not beg over pm ok i used the account for posting and after that i sold it to twipple .. why i beg for only 0.025? when i have much in my wallet .. the heck dude you are mad ..