REAL LIFE DATA on AMHASH RESPONSIBLES

[AirWolf]

Ok, some results now, thanks to some members, man enough to not accept scamming without a fight:

This is what i got on 'rockxie' head of Rockminer, by his own words, responsible for AMHASH:

His real name is 'Xie Jian' (谢坚) born 9/29/1983 from Hunan Zhuzhou Liling.
according to sources below, he is back at Liling.
one of his family member name seems to be 'Shi Xie'

sources:
http://chuansong.me/n/796405
http://lilinghuayi.i.sohu.com/profile/index.htm

last known work place is 'Liling Huayi Electronics Technology Co., Ltd.'
last known contact number: +86-0733-3259123, +96-0733-3256123, +15115304800

sources:
http://huayi123co.cn.china.cn/contact-information/
http://huayi123123.me.1688.com/

The HUNT CONTINUES, next step is to verify family member status and get info to contact, also contact companies listed and/or collaborators for more data.

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[AirWolf]

I think will share this with CoinDesk, CoinTelegraph, Cryptocoinnews, etc...

[tsm13]

nah im sure they can google it like you did if they were really that bothered

[AirWolf]

nah im sure they can google it like you did if they were really that bothered

Try googling in Chinese...

[lucasjkr]

Aren't we supposed to be opposed to Doxxing?

[AirWolf]

We are more opposed to scamming

[vk3ukf]

Hi,


please correct me if I'm wrong.

AMhash seem to be working OK.
I see dividends going into my account at AMhash.
I haven't tried to withdraw,
although I did see elsewhere in BCT that it was working but they are manual and take about 2 hours.


We are all waiting on full functionality to be restored to the Havelock platform.
We are waiting for our AMhash shares dividends to be credited at our Havelock accounts.
We do not know if this has been done yet? or do we?
We are all poised to seeing the trading of AMhash shares to be resumed on the Havelock platform.
We will probably not see trading resumed until after our accounts have been credited, thusly avoiding a panic sell off.

Is that how it is?

[l3sny]

No it is not. The dividends are only virtual and you cannot withdraw anything.
AirWolf good job. Good to see someone is doing something but without some assistance from someone in China we will not be able to do too much. We need someone from legal from there.

[AirWolf]

Hi,


please correct me if I'm wrong.

AMhash seem to be working OK.
I see dividends going into my account at AMhash.
I haven't tried to withdraw,
although I did see elsewhere in BCT that it was working but they are manual and take about 2 hours.


We are all waiting on full functionality to be restored to the Havelock platform.
We are waiting for our AMhash shares dividends to be credited at our Havelock accounts.
We do not know if this has been done yet? or do we?
We are all poised to seeing the trading of AMhash shares to be resumed on the Havelock platform.
We will probably not see trading resumed until after our accounts have been credited, thusly avoiding a panic sell off.

Is that how it is?

This is what we know now about AMHASH:

-BctLtcNmc is a user that lives in China and visited the AM offices, he says that they are closed and emptied, he says could look through the window.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10651353#msg10651353
-Rock Xie, whose real name is Xie Jian, principal of ROCKMINER, the company that runs AMHASH sent and statement saying that we all must wait until the now infamous friedcat appears again and that he has to solve the problem.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=974058.msg10647252#msg10647252
-One Dong Zhao, said in a forum in China that he is OK, but at large.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg10656672#msg10656672
-AM execs. have turned their phones off
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg10657396#msg10657396
-Nor ASICMINER or ROCKMINER are talking or responding to public about this.
-They have admitted that they lied, 3 times now, for fear of spreading panic.

1.- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10392962#msg10392962
2.- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10610885#msg10610885
3.- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10631414#msg10631414

-Rock Xie (Xie Jian) the AMHASH responsible personal data has been uncovered
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976421.0
-Friedcat real name is Xinyu Jiang
-A reward is being offered for more personal information:
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=974893.0
-AMHASH shares are frozen in Havelock
-A lot of money is on the move on the AMHASH payment account
-I have reported this story to Coindesk and Cryptocoinnews
-I'm preparing to run an ad campaign denouncing this in the most visible BTC related sites

[l3sny]

We just need proper public annoucement from both Rockminer and Asicminer on what has happened, why, what measures has been taken (and which were not) etc. the whole story!
And what is going to be done about it.

If there are some people from China who could assist us in the legal aspect of the situation please PM me.

[AirWolf]

We just need proper public annoucement from both Rockminer and Asicminer on what has happened, why, what measures has been taken (and which were not) etc. the whole story!
And what is going to be done about it.

If there are some people from China who could assist us in the legal aspect of the situation please PM me.

the announcement is here and it was like 3 days ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=974058.msg10647252#msg10647252

[l3sny]

Annoucement on the main page in English with references to most recent developments I mean. Will the situation be handled or not? I am just sick to think of another annoucement on the note "we tried so hard to fix the situation but unfortunately .... blah blah blah"

[AirWolf]

Annoucement on the main page in English with references to most recent developments I mean.

Nope, nothing like that, i wrote to them and i had this response:

Hi,

We understood all of your guys emotion, but we still need to wait FC's appearance ,when he comes back, we will solve everything very easily.

1. The mining farm happened in Dec/25/2014 was not a PONZI like you said, AM did have hashrates before that day, and they were also hurt by the farm partner.When problem happened, AM were talking and finding some way to solve it and continue to pay divs daily, how can you say that PONZI? Any problem been solved need time, hope you understand.

2. We are finding some way to solve this.Firstly,we are not sure whether FC safe. Secondly,we are not just sitting here, we are trying to move on this, talking with AM, and board members.

Thanks,
AMHash Team

[l3sny]

ok, lets give them a week. Good he's talking to you AirWolf.

[vk3ukf]

Correct me if I am wrong please,

AMhash seem to be working ok.

We are waiting on funds to be seen as having been made available to our accounts at Havelock.

You mention lots of AMhash BTC moving.

Is it going into a Havelock wallet?

Perhaps it is the consolidation process in action.

[elasticband]

Annoucement on the main page in English with references to most recent developments I mean.

Nope, nothing like that, i wrote to them and i had this response:

Hi,

We understood all of your guys emotion, but we still need to wait FC's appearance ,when he comes back, we will solve everything very easily.

1. The mining farm happened in Dec/25/2014 was not a PONZI like you said, AM did have hashrates before that day, and they were also hurt by the farm partner.When problem happened, AM were talking and finding some way to solve it and continue to pay divs daily, how can you say that PONZI? Any problem been solved need time, hope you understand.

2. We are finding some way to solve this.Firstly,we are not sure whether FC safe. Secondly,we are not just sitting here, we are trying to move on this, talking with AM, and board members.

Thanks,
AMHash Team

there you go, spamming and crying like a little baby who has lost his rattle won't do much right now. FC holds the keys to the company purse.... they need to find FC and all this can be resolved. Why not put your efforts into tracking down FC or his last known location or who he was last with.....

[KarmaShark]

update :

1. We have lost contact with Friedcat more than 40 days, we are now still focusing on finding him.
2. A lot of evidences we have found shows that he is safe, which is the only good news recently. In addition, all rumour around the community are baseless and untrustworthy. We know so far nothing about where has he been and where is he at the moment.
3. We have to focus on finding him currently so there are indeed some delay on replying email of sale@bitquan.com. However, since we have all records of your emails so it is only a problem of time, please understand and be patient.
4. AMHASH project is not from sale team of ASICMINER, we know nothing about the deal between Friedcat and ROCKMINER, no one else has seen the contract between them either ,therefore, we sale department of ASICMINER is not be in charge of AMHASH project, please be patient to wait till we find FC.

Some more context. Looks like the group of people searching for Fried Cat have enough information to believe he is safe. Nothing more on the status of the company or its funds, much of what is being speculated is just that, rumors. The focus would now logically be on tracking Fried Cat down to ensure his safety and bring to light what, if anything, has changed regarding the operations of ASIC MINER.

[AirWolf]

Correct me if I am wrong please,

AMhash seem to be working ok.

We are waiting on funds to be seen as having been made available to our accounts at Havelock.

You mention lots of AMhash BTC moving.

Is it going into a Havelock wallet?

Perhaps it is the consolidation process in action.

Supposedly, this is the AM/AMHASH account:

https://blockchain.info/address/3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y

[AirWolf]

update :

1. We have lost contact with Friedcat more than 40 days, we are now still focusing on finding him.
2. A lot of evidences we have found shows that he is safe, which is the only good news recently. In addition, all rumour around the community are baseless and untrustworthy. We know so far nothing about where has he been and where is he at the moment.
3. We have to focus on finding him currently so there are indeed some delay on replying email of sale@bitquan.com. However, since we have all records of your emails so it is only a problem of time, please understand and be patient.
4. AMHASH project is not from sale team of ASICMINER, we know nothing about the deal between Friedcat and ROCKMINER, no one else has seen the contract between them either ,therefore, we sale department of ASICMINER is not be in charge of AMHASH project, please be patient to wait till we find FC.

Some more context. Looks like the group of people searching for Fried Cat have enough information to believe he is safe. Nothing more on the status of the company or its funds, much of what is being speculated is just that, rumors. The focus would now logically be on tracking Fried Cat down to ensure his safety and bring to light what, if anything, has changed regarding the operations of ASIC MINER.

That looks interesting, thanks

[vk3ukf]

OK, well then if that is an AMhash BTC wallet address, are you able to see withdrawals being made from that account and going into other BTC wallet address, and if you can, are they consisting of a large variation in amounts, e.g. from 0.002 to 1 BC or more?

If that is the case, then I think it may be the consolidation process in action.

I am only guessing at what you may be able to see on the blockchain.

EDIT:
I just looked at AMhash account again, another dividend for my GH/s there has come into my account balance.

[AirWolf]

OK, well then if that is an AMhash BTC wallet address, are you able to see withdrawals being made from that account and going into other BTC wallet address, and if you can, are they consisting of a large variation in amounts, e.g. from 0.002 to 1 BC or more?

If that is the case, then I think it may be the consolidation process in action.

I am only guessing at what you may be able to see on the blockchain.

EDIT:
I just looked at AMhash account again, another dividend for my GH/s there has come into my account balance.

Then we have to add to the mystery that AMHASH is paying dividends in its site but not in Havelock

Are you able to withdraw them?

[vk3ukf]

Just another thought,

if you can see withdrawals from AMhash,
is it possible to do a search for your own BTC wallet address at Havelock and pair it with an AMhash withdrawal for about what is owed you?

I have not tried to withdraw yet.

I read elsewhere on BCT that it is being done manually and takes about 2 hours with an email confirm.

[AirWolf]

Just another thought,

if you can see withdrawals from AMhash,
is it possible to do a search for your own BTC wallet address at Havelock and pair it with an AMhash withdrawal for about what is owed you?

I have not tried to withdraw yet.

I read elsewhere on BCT that it is being done manually and takes about 2 hours with an email confirm.

It will really help a lot of people to clear some FUD around if you should try to withdraw to your account and see what happens.

[vk3ukf]

So, you haven't got any GH/s at AMhash yourself so you can't try a withdrawal?

So, you must have all your eggs in Havelock.

Too much bother for me to try a withdrawal, bed times ages ago. Sorry.

Search around a bit more for posts pertaining to support or ask someone that has just woke up.

I'll be catching up after I get some shut eye.

[AirWolf]

So, you haven't got any GH/s at AMhash yourself so you can't try a withdrawal?

So, you must have all your eggs in Havelock.

Too much bother for me to try a withdrawal, bed times ages ago. Sorry.

Search around a bit more for posts pertaining to support or ask someone that has just woke up.

I'll be catching up after I get some shut eye.

Yes i have all my eggs at Havelock

and... AMHASH SCAM HITTING THE NEWS!!!: http://www.btcreporter.com/2015/03/04/mystery-in-bitcoinland-the-disappearance-of-friedcat/

[primeminer]

18d006fe9bfe7eb8d04c149c6b897df8b6bea5cbb91120bf613d624b4e7e539d2015-02-09 01:53:47
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y
   3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM 6,000 BTC
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y 1,377.99601004 BTC
-6,000.0001 BTC
Public Note: Good afternoon! Your help is necessary. My wife has a problem with health, treatment is necessary (we expect a baby). If you have some unnecessary btc or satosh, please, help, we will rejoice any help.

WTF?

for this money you can rent a clinic for a month!!!!

Thats Am wallet

[AirWolf]

18d006fe9bfe7eb8d04c149c6b897df8b6bea5cbb91120bf613d624b4e7e539d2015-02-09 01:53:47
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y
   3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM 6,000 BTC
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y 1,377.99601004 BTC
-6,000.0001 BTC
Public Note: Good afternoon! Your help is necessary. My wife has a problem with health, treatment is necessary (we expect a baby). If you have some unnecessary btc or satosh, please, help, we will rejoice any help.

WTF?

for this money you can rent a clinic for a month!!!!

Thats Am wallet

More Mystery...

[AirWolf]

It will help a lot that if you are a victim of AMHASH, you also contact this addresses

CoinDesk: news@coindesk.com
CCN: david.parker@cryptocoinsnews.com

Ask them to run the story and provide some sources, like this example message:

Are you aware of this new scam involving ASCIMINER and  ROCKMINER:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10646608#msg10646608
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=974058.msg10645504#msg10645504
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976421.msg10661393#msg10661393
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=974893.msg10643266#msg10643266

Please look in to this.

[MrTeal]

18d006fe9bfe7eb8d04c149c6b897df8b6bea5cbb91120bf613d624b4e7e539d2015-02-09 01:53:47
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y
   3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM 6,000 BTC
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y 1,377.99601004 BTC
-6,000.0001 BTC
Public Note: Good afternoon! Your help is necessary. My wife has a problem with health, treatment is necessary (we expect a baby). If you have some unnecessary btc or satosh, please, help, we will rejoice any help.

WTF?

for this money you can rent a clinic for a month!!!!

Thats Am wallet

You can rent a clinic for a month for 3 cents?

[AirWolf]

GOOD NEWS!

I am in contact with CNN now, thanks to some very kind users of this forum!

Also, a big BTC news outlet is digging into this too, just got response!

[mr_e]

Does anyone know what Amhash`s wallet address is, the one we get paid from to at Havelock and Amhash own website, be interesting to know the balance of that wallet?

[RoadStress]

GOOD NEWS!

I am in contact with CNN now, thanks to some very kind users of this forum!

Also, a big BTC news outlet is digging into this too, just got response!

So you actually think that CNN will make you find FC and the AMHash owners? Really? EVERYONE that is invested in AM and AMHash already knows about what is going on. CNN will do shit.

Remember mtGOX? Well Mark Karpeles is a public figure and he isn't hiding anywhere and still nobody knows where the missing 600k BTC are.

Same about NeoBee and Danny Brewster. Everyone knows his name, but the money are gone.

Wake up!

[elasticband]

GOOD NEWS!

I am in contact with CNN now, thanks to some very kind users of this forum!

Also, a big BTC news outlet is digging into this too, just got response!

So you actually think that CNN will make you find FC and the AMHash owners? Really? EVERYONE that is invested in AM and AMHash already knows about what is going on. CNN will do shit.

Remember mtGOX? Well Mark Karpeles is a public figure and he isn't hiding anywhere and still nobody knows where the missing 600k BTC are.

Same about NeoBee and Danny Brewster. Everyone knows his name, but the money are gone.

Wake up!

Did MTgox even make the major news channels? Can't say i watch the dutch ones here....... don't really remember much

[MrTeal]

GOOD NEWS!

I am in contact with CNN now, thanks to some very kind users of this forum!

Also, a big BTC news outlet is digging into this too, just got response!

So you actually think that CNN will make you find FC and the AMHash owners? Really? EVERYONE that is invested in AM and AMHash already knows about what is going on. CNN will do shit.

Remember mtGOX? Well Mark Karpeles is a public figure and he isn't hiding anywhere and still nobody knows where the missing 600k BTC are.

Same about NeoBee and Danny Brewster. Everyone knows his name, but the money are gone.

Wake up!

Did MTgox even make the major news channels? Can't say i watch the dutch ones here....... don't really remember much

It did here, but not in a useful investigative way. It was more "And in other news, a bunch of internet people lost their internet money to an internet scam. Now let's go to Bill with the weather."

[elasticband]

It did here, but not in a useful investigative way. It was more "And in other news, a bunch of internet people lost their internet money to an internet scam. Now let's go to Bill with the weather."

Unless there is drugs and murder nothing bitcoin gets the air time 

[gogxmagog]

CNN don't give a shit about this. User is lying. He hopes that someone will become frightened and expose some truths, but he's an idiot
No one cares

[elasticband]

CNN don't give a shit about this. User is lying. He hopes that someone will become frightened and expose some truths, but he's an idiot
No one cares

exactly, he will scream and shout hoping someone pays him out of fear and then disappear and dump his money into something else hoping to get rich, just like he did from PBmining, helping no one else but himself.

[AirWolf]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

[lucasjkr]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

Even if they could cause damage to AM, that damage (if CNN even picked up and ran with it,  which I doubt they would) would have the effect of being yet another story about investments to do Bitcoin going south... Talk about cutting off your nose despite your face...

Call it what it is... A bad investment. Poor due diligence. And so forth. I don't see how you expect to have luck "Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet from your keyboard... Best that can happen is a wild goose chase, like when people "chased" the Sheep Marketplace thiefs through mixers and the like, and all the did was end up looking at the wallet at btc-e.

Still though, it's a fascinating story...

[AirWolf]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

Even if they could cause damage to AM, that damage (if CNN even picked up and ran with it,  which I doubt they would) would have the effect of being yet another story about investments to do Bitcoin going south... Talk about cutting off your nose despite your face...

Call it what it is... A bad investment. Poor due diligence. And so forth. I don't see how you expect to have luck "Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet from your keyboard... Best that can happen is a wild goose chase, like when people "chased" the Sheep Marketplace thiefs through mixers and the like, and all the did was end up looking at the wallet at btc-e.

Still though, it's a fascinating story...

I recovered our money from Karpeles (believe it or not) and from PBmining, so will do from AMHASH, I WILL GET OUR MONEY BACK.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Havelock TOS:

"These Funds involve risk and are not suitable for all individuals. Please understand these and additional risks before trading. "

Did everybody understand these additional risks before trading??

[NotLambchop]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

Even if they could cause damage to AM, that damage (if CNN even picked up and ran with it,  which I doubt they would) would have the effect of being yet another story about investments to do Bitcoin going south... Talk about cutting off your nose despite your face...

Call it what it is... A bad investment. Poor due diligence. And so forth. I don't see how you expect to have luck "Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet from your keyboard... Best that can happen is a wild goose chase, like when people "chased" the Sheep Marketplace thiefs through mixers and the like, and all the did was end up looking at the wallet at btc-e.

Still though, it's a fascinating story...

>"Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet
Not sure.  Havelock d00d's very easy, public & [North] American.  No one is going after him, tho, so you're right--just more Bitcoin bluster.

>cutting off your nose despite
*to spite <==It only makes sense when you say it right

[AirWolf]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

Even if they could cause damage to AM, that damage (if CNN even picked up and ran with it,  which I doubt they would) would have the effect of being yet another story about investments to do Bitcoin going south... Talk about cutting off your nose despite your face...

Call it what it is... A bad investment. Poor due diligence. And so forth. I don't see how you expect to have luck "Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet from your keyboard... Best that can happen is a wild goose chase, like when people "chased" the Sheep Marketplace thiefs through mixers and the like, and all the did was end up looking at the wallet at btc-e.

Still though, it's a fascinating story...

>"Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet
Not sure.  Havelock d00d's very easy, public & [North] American.  No one is going after him, tho, so you're right--just more Bitcoin bluster.

>cutting off your nose despite
*to spite <==It only makes sense when you say it right

Wrong, I AM GOING AFTER THEM...

[lucasjkr]

>cutting off your nose despite
*to spite <==It only makes sense when you say it right

You say them out loud, they both sound the same... So of course, I googled it, and realized I've been wrong all these years...

Cutting off your nose despite the impact it'll have on your face, still seems like it makes more sense...

Why someone would want to spite their face is beyond me.

Alas. I stand corrected!

[flame1012]

I personally found Airwolf's approach a bit harsh, when he said "Hunt".
Though he's dedicated and has all rights to fight against this crime.

There's no reason in trolling and mocking someone dedicated to solve a problem.
It's not nice to make fun of others losses, or handle serious matters lightly.
Such attitude can't be taken serious.

If you guys have any objection, you should positively point to it and share your opinion friendly.
If you're not into the movement or insincere just stay out of dialogue.
You don't have any rights to clutter it with your useless comments.

Nothing at the Amhash front makes sense, we're scammed.
You gotto accept the fact before you can solve any problem.

It's time to take realistic measures in our reach now.
And the best way to handle issues is to organize.
Even small investors should join this movement.

I am with AirWolf.

[AirWolf]

I personally found Airwolf's approach a bit harsh, when he said "Hunt".
Though he's dedicated and has all rights to fight against this crime.

There's no reason in trolling and mocking someone dedicated to solve a problem.
It's not nice to make fun of others losses, or handle serious matters lightly.
Such attitude can't be taken serious.

If you guys have any objection, you should positively point to it and share your opinion friendly.
If you're not into the movement or insincere just stay out of dialogue.
You don't have any rights to clutter it with your useless comments.

Nothing at the Amhash front makes sense, we're scammed.
You gotto accept the fact before you can solve any problem.

It's time to take realistic measures in our reach now.
And the best way to handle issues is to organize.
Even small investors should join this movement.

I am with AirWolf.

Thanks for the support, really appreciate it.

[AirWolf]

Some more real data, thanks to those supporting, as they do it for free, i share it for free:


This is Rock Xie, also know 'Xie Jian' (谢坚) born 9/29/1983 from Hunan Zhuzhou Liling.
according to sources below, he is back at Liling.
one of his family member name seems to be 'Shi Xie'
last known work place is 'Liling Huayi Electronics Technology Co., Ltd.'
last known contact number: +86-0733-3259123, +96-0733-3256123, +15115304800



The email rockxie@gmail.com is related to these domains :

1.  7hash.com
2.  amhash.com
3.  asicminershop.com
4.  bitebika.com
5.  bitell.com
6.  btotc.com
7.  chuagnshi.com
8.  cryptominingchina.com
9.  foks.cn
10.  fowor.com
11.  miepay.com
12.  monaobian.com
13.  rock-miner.com
14.  rockhash.com
15.  rockkin.com
16.  shoujihuanping.com
17.  weimud.com
18.  xuanpai.com
19.  youkuhezi.com

[NotLambchop]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

Even if they could cause damage to AM, that damage (if CNN even picked up and ran with it,  which I doubt they would) would have the effect of being yet another story about investments to do Bitcoin going south... Talk about cutting off your nose despite your face...

Call it what it is... A bad investment. Poor due diligence. And so forth. I don't see how you expect to have luck "Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet from your keyboard... Best that can happen is a wild goose chase, like when people "chased" the Sheep Marketplace thiefs through mixers and the like, and all the did was end up looking at the wallet at btc-e.

Still though, it's a fascinating story...

>"Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet
Not sure.  Havelock d00d's very easy, public & [North] American.  No one is going after him, tho, so you're right--just more Bitcoin bluster.

>cutting off your nose despite
*to spite <==It only makes sense when you say it right

Wrong, I AM GOING AFTER THEM...

Godspeed!
~10 clicks worth of Googlin'

Name, address, what else is needed?

[AirWolf]

CNN can do A LOT OF DAMAGE to AM and Rockminer and even Havelock...

But more than that: To Cloud Mining and BTC in general.

So: I TOLD YOU SCAMMERS TO PAY OUR MONEY BACK OR ELSE... HERE IS THE ELSE

And i'm just warming up...

Even if they could cause damage to AM, that damage (if CNN even picked up and ran with it,  which I doubt they would) would have the effect of being yet another story about investments to do Bitcoin going south... Talk about cutting off your nose despite your face...

Call it what it is... A bad investment. Poor due diligence. And so forth. I don't see how you expect to have luck "Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet from your keyboard... Best that can happen is a wild goose chase, like when people "chased" the Sheep Marketplace thiefs through mixers and the like, and all the did was end up looking at the wallet at btc-e.

Still though, it's a fascinating story...

>"Chasing" someone down on the other side of the planet
Not sure.  Havelock d00d's very easy, public & [North] American.  No one is going after him, tho, so you're right--just more Bitcoin bluster.

>cutting off your nose despite
*to spite <==It only makes sense when you say it right

Wrong, I AM GOING AFTER THEM...

Godspeed!
~10 clicks worth of Googlin'

Name, address, what else is needed?

Thank you NLC, good work, even if it is trivial to you, is not for us.

[AirWolf]

Pictures of the EMPTY office of AMHASH in China here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977777.0

"Gentlemen, we have been had..."

[AirWolf]

Ok people, we need a picture of this persons:

James Grant and Betty Hobson

James Grant owner of havelock

Name   James Grant  (657) (+2)
Org.   Lightbox Technologies Inc.  (54)
Email   domain@lightbox.org  (84) (-1)
Street 1   #312-240 Catherine St  (48)
Street 2   -
City   Ottawa  (129,591) (+3,840)
Region   Ontario  (1,101,050) (+45,609)
Zip / Post   K2P2G8  (78)
Country   CANADA  (6,526,486) (+252,885)
Phone   16136861661  (45)


Email
  Office Email       info@lightbox.org

Office Hours / Address
  Mon-Fri: 9AM-5PM
  Lightbox Technologies Inc.
  #13-21 Concourse Gate
  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
  K2E 7S4

Phone
  613-686-1661

Toll-Free
  866-611-7092

Emergencies (server outage, etc)
  613-686-1661 x999


there is connection with other real person:

Domain owner:Township of Otonabee South Monaghan Domain administrator:Betty Hobson
Address: 20 Third Street, Suite PO BOX 70, Keene ON ON K0L2G0 Canada
Phone: +17052956852
Mail: bettyh@osmtownship.ca Domain technical support:James Grant
Address: 240 Catherine St., 312, Ottawa ON K2P2G8 Canada
Phone: +16136861661
Mail: domain@lightbox.org
James Grant affiliated with 1 domains: lightbox.ca

[lucasjkr]

I don't understand... Havelock had nothing to do with this, they were simply the agents that AM chose to sell shares through.

[flame1012]

I don't understand... Havelock had nothing to do with this, they were simply the agents that AM chose to sell shares through.

They share the responsibility, they hid information from us, and we think their suspicious activities lately are related to the case.

[l3sny]

I don't understand... Havelock had nothing to do with this, they were simply the agents that AM chose to sell shares through.

Exactly. Stop trolling about Havelock please. They are not a mark even!!

[flame1012]

I don't understand... Havelock had nothing to do with this, they were simply the agents that AM chose to sell shares through.

Exactly. Stop trolling about Havelock please. They are not a mark even!!

We have explained our doubts, and the way how we think, on what basis are you defending them?
We're serious about this, this is not trolling btw.
Don't mud the water if you don't have any discrete or more convincing information which can help the cause.

[l3sny]

Because we need to focus on what is obtainable. Chasing Havelock on dubious basis knowing they have no resources to pay back a penny is a waste of time. It is purely about what is practical and what is not. It simply sidetracks the whole action. Havelock may well be used as a red herring, scapegoat etc. Do not bite it. It is Asicminer, Rockminer, Amhash, FC and Rock Xie and perhaps this David.

Let's discuss organizing, finding some legal assistance in China etc. It is weekend, I have plenty of time.

[NotLambchop]

Because we need to focus on what is obtainable. Chasing Havelock on dubious basis knowing they have no resources to pay back a penny is a waste of time. It is purely about what is practical and what is not. It simply sidetracks the whole action. Havelock may well be used as a red herring, scapegoat etc. Do not bite it. It is Asicminer, Rockminer, Amhash, FC and Rock Xie and perhaps this David.

Let's discuss organizing, finding some legal assistance in China etc. It is weekend, I have plenty of time.

Lol, not focus on Havelock?
Next you'll say cops shouldn't nail the hapless runner who has been selling bunk dope all of his life, and finally sold a batch that killed a handful of junkies.
Go to the station and tell them to go after whoever they want, just not our runner (whose name is well known & who also happens to live right across the street from the station).  

Like the hapless runner, Havelock has a long history of selling [nothing but] bunk, and (unlike Anons with nothing but usernames) his name & whereabouts are both well known.
Because both inept and audacious, and didn't think shit would get like this when he doxed himself.  Like a cl00less n00b with 0 foresight that he was.

His particular blend of audacity & incompetence (uh solded Havelock to The Panama Fund ugaise!  Get it?  The Panama Fund!  It's in Panama lol!!!1! 4realz!) make him *Idiot #1* to go after.
He sold the stuff, he profited from it.  And just might know who sold it to him.  If he does, he'll flip.  Because Bitcoin^TM
Without him, you got nothing.  Running to (lol!) a Communist nanny-state on the other side of the globe to remedy your blunders will net you exactly nothing.
100% guarantee.

*Not that I think that anything else is likely to help either.

[AirWolf]

I don't understand... Havelock had nothing to do with this, they were simply the agents that AM chose to sell shares through.

Havelock bears responsibility since we gave our money to them and also they knew this AMHASH was born dead, just check this page and read from number 1 to 10

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60803;sa=showPosts

Should you have know this, would you have put your money on a last ditch effort from a cash strapped, dying company?, WE DON'T, and if someone comes again with the old "due dligence" cliche, the first to receive that should be HL, if would be HL i would have never get involved in this, knowing what could surely happen, HL seems to be run by a person with some level of consciousness, and works hard to maintain a responsible business, participation in this would put all that at risk.

Knowing that, the least they could have done is to escrow the money, week to week: Week's dividends paid, then release the corresponding part of the fund and so on as the do in their zero sum funds. that is to be serious, But no, they gave all the money, our money, to this chinese clowns, that now are laughing at us with our money in their big and deep clown pockets.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I know some thugs in the Ottawa valley that will pelt this guy with beavers for a touque and a warm meal...Just putting that out there

[AirWolf]

I know some thugs in the Ottawa valley that will pelt this guy with beavers for a touque and a warm meal...Just putting that out there

Better, i know a guy with a drone armed with lasers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxyJaMFEKZI

[AirWolf]

BREAKING NEWS: Rock Xie discloses communication with Friedcat:

https://www.bikeji.com/t/1228

We need to translate this ASAP

[AirWolf]

This text is also very important, it seems to talk about AMHASH going bad 3 months ago, and some talk about disconnecting the miners and paying dividends out of sales, which configures a PONZI:

https://www.bikeji.com/member/16

[flame1012]

Reality check:
What do we have so far?
What else do we need first?

[Guy Corem]

Edit: Removed a post quote with wrong picture.

[ujka]

He knows him. He said he met with ASICMiner's in that, now empty, office.

[Guy Corem]

I know FC and David.
I'm not interested in your men hunt.
I replied because you accused someone I don't know, which might be completely innocent.

I'm sure FC will popup someday and will make things right.
If not, something bad happened.
I have zero information about current events, I wasn't in contact with FC for over a month.

Guy

[MarbleBoss]

I know FC and David.
I'm not interested in your men hunt.
I replied because you accused someone I don't know, which might be completely innocent.

I'm sure FC will popup someday and will make things right.
If not, something bad happened.
I have zero information about current events, I wasn't in contact with FC for over a month.

Guy

I guessed it when I saw your pic with Rock Xie...

So, why dont you publish FC's pic at least ? It is now clear that he is scamming.

[AirWolf]

I know FC and David.
I'm not interested in your men hunt.
I replied because you accused someone I don't know, which might be completely innocent.

I'm sure FC will popup someday and will make things right.
If not, something bad happened.
I have zero information about current events, I wasn't in contact with FC for over a month.

Guy

I guessed it when I saw your pic with Rock Xie...

So, why dont you publish FC's pic at least ? It is now clear that he is scamming.

I think so, HE MUST BE IN THIS WITH THEM AND ALSO ACCOMPLICE IN COVERING THEIR TRACKS.

At least, delete the quote in the reply, so you don't embarrass an innocent, i have done so also.

FreedomFund, please delete the quote in your reply, Mr. Spoondolies says he knows David Fan personally and he says we are accusing the wrong person.

[Guy Corem]

I know FC and David.
I'm not interested in your men hunt.
I replied because you accused someone I don't know, which might be completely innocent.

I'm sure FC will popup someday and will make things right.
If not, something bad happened.
I have zero information about current events, I wasn't in contact with FC for over a month.

Guy

I guessed it when I saw your pic with Rock Xie...

So, why dont you publish FC's pic at least ? It is now clear that he is scamming.

I think so, HE MUST BE IN THIS WITH THEM AND ALSO ACCOMPLICE IN COVERING THEIR TRACKS.

At least, delete the quote in the reply, so you don't embarrass an innocent, i have done so also.

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

[FUR11]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

[MarbleBoss]

I know FC and David.
I'm not interested in your men hunt.
I replied because you accused someone I don't know, which might be completely innocent.

I'm sure FC will popup someday and will make things right.
If not, something bad happened.
I have zero information about current events, I wasn't in contact with FC for over a month.

Guy

I guessed it when I saw your pic with Rock Xie...

So, why dont you publish FC's pic at least ? It is now clear that he is scamming.

I think so, HE MUST BE IN THIS WITH THEM AND ALSO ACCOMPLICE IN COVERING THEIR TRACKS.

At least, delete the quote in the reply, so you don't embarrass an innocent, i have done so also.

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

@Airwolf Spondoolies-Tech is operating from Israel. I think due good relationship between USA & Israel, FTC can reach them. Especially if they are informed that Spondoolies-Tech CEO knows about a person who has stolen huge sum of money from American citizen.

[Guy Corem]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I try to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

[l3sny]

Look guys,
We believe the situation is dire also for AM and Rockminer, we do not want to cast suspicions on innocent people. We are just gathering information best we can. The problem is that they are not communicating with their customers which is a bad thing.

[MarbleBoss]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

[Guy Corem]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

Put on ignore list.
Serve me right for pointing out a wrong picture.
I have better things to do.

[RealMalatesta]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

Sorry to say this, but this is getting ridicoulous. It is normal in the industry that people know each other. So don't make this a which hunt.

[MarbleBoss]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

Put on ignore list.
Serve me right for pointing out a wrong picture.
I have better things to do.

Pointing out wrong picture is not a problem. Do not try to give an excuse. As soon as u pointed out that it is a wrong picture, everyone of us has deleted it.

The problem is U have info of FC who has stolen our money. But u r not revealing that. Knowing about a criminal but not disclosing that is a crime.

[l3sny]

@MarbleBoss
Stop making accusations. This is person's choice whether to assist in this or not. You will only make the things worse.

[RealMalatesta]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

Put on ignore list.
Serve me right for pointing out a wrong picture.
I have better things to do.

Pointing out wrong picture is not a problem. Do not try to give an excuse. As soon as u pointed out that it is a wrong picture, everyone of us has deleted it.

The problem is U have info of FC who has stolen our money. But u r not revealing that. Knowing about a criminal but not disclosing that is a crime.

First of all: Do you have any evidence that a crime has been committed by FC? You don't. It may as well be possible that he got arrested/fell down a mountain/was kidnapped. You don't know. Accusing people of being criminals just because they happen to know someone is - in polite words - immature.

Your behaviour is damaging the cause of finding the missing money more than it helps. Hm, so could it be that YOU are a criminal, trying to point your fingers at the wrong person to hide traces?

See, that's how the internet works: It is easy to blame someone. So get real and if you really are interested in finding the missing money, stop accusing innocent people.

[Guy Corem]

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

Put on ignore list.
Serve me right for pointing out a wrong picture.
I have better things to do.

Pointing out wrong picture is not a problem. Do not try to give an excuse. As soon as u pointed out that it is a wrong picture, everyone of us has deleted it.

The problem is U have info of FC who has stolen our money. But u r not revealing that. Knowing about a criminal but not disclosing that is a crime.

First of all: Do you have any evidence that a crime has been committed by FC? You don't. It may as well be possible that he got arrested/fell down a mountain/was kidnapped. You don't know. Accusing people of being criminals just because they happen to know someone is - in polite words - immature.

Your behaviour is damaging the cause of finding the missing money more than it helps. Hm, so could it be that YOU are a criminal, trying to point your fingers at the wrong person to hide traces?

See, that's how the internet works: It is easy to blame someone. So get real and if you really are interested in finding the missing money, stop accusing innocent people.

+1

[MarbleBoss]

@MarbleBoss
Stop making accusations. This is person's choice whether to assist in this or not. You will only make the things worse.

If it is his personal choice, then it is my personal choice to complaint at FTC against Spondoolies-Tech for being part of a larger conspiracy. He could simply reveal the info about FC and save himself...

Continue BS-ing and this will be my last post on those matters.

We appreciate you chiming in on this matter. Please let us know if you hear something new. It's good to see that you are in friendly terms with the AM/ROCKMiner staff, even though you are competitors!

Thank you.
I tries to be on friendly terms with everyone in the industry.

Or u r planning to steal the same way FC has ? First riding on trust and then steal as much as possible... NO ?

Put on ignore list.
Serve me right for pointing out a wrong picture.
I have better things to do.

Pointing out wrong picture is not a problem. Do not try to give an excuse. As soon as u pointed out that it is a wrong picture, everyone of us has deleted it.

The problem is U have info of FC who has stolen our money. But u r not revealing that. Knowing about a criminal but not disclosing that is a crime.

First of all: Do you have any evidence that a crime has been committed by FC? You don't. It may as well be possible that he got arrested/fell down a mountain/was kidnapped. You don't know. Accusing people of being criminals just because they happen to know someone is - in polite words - immature.

Your behaviour is damaging the cause of finding the missing money more than it helps. Hm, so could it be that YOU are a criminal, trying to point your fingers at the wrong person to hide traces?

See, that's how the internet works: It is easy to blame someone. So get real and if you really are interested in finding the missing money, stop accusing innocent people.

Do not act like an idiot. I did not post any picture of any innocent people. Those who posted, have already deleted.

At current scenario FC is a criminal. According to your logic Tradefortress/Pirate40 might have done whatever they have done at gunpoint. So, unless u know, they did that intentionally, they are not criminal. Right ? Sorry, I'm NOT buying that. If FC is innocent, he has to come out in open and explain what has happened to the public money. Till then he is a criminal and the manhunt will be on.

[l3sny]

@MarbleBoss
You are not helping at all just causing more confusion. Nobody has a duty to disclose anything.

[l3sny]

Exactly. However if the customers of Amhash are left without their coins and GH/s as it is now this is a criminal case as well against all the people involved + civil action against the 3 companies.

[MrTeal]

@MarbleBoss
Stop making accusations. This is person's choice whether to assist in this or not. You will only make the things worse.

If it is his personal choice, then it is my personal choice to complaint at FTC against Spondoolies-Tech for being part of a larger conspiracy. He could simply reveal the info about FC and save himself...

That's pretty funny, actually. After he lost a couple hundred BTC in PBmining your glorious leader extorted a large lump sum from the perpetrator. After that he just posted a couple quick messages saying "I got paid out" and fucked off to invest it in AMHash. Despite the pleas from the other PBmining victims, he never shared any information on his arrangements, the contact info he used other than "oh, I just emailed him", etc. By your logic, he's just as complicit in PBmining and the losses of all the other victims as Jason Boyko

[RealMalatesta]

This is really funny. Some greedy idiots invested money in a company they didn't know shit about. Then they lose their money and cry "thiefs". But everybody who isn't supporting them is equally treated as a thief.

Sorry, kids, I never invested in AM/RM/HL. Nevertheless, because I know decent people who did, I deceided to give some support. But this turns into a mere whichhunt.

So yes, I keep on digging - but there where the money is. And this is definitively not where you try other people make believe it is.

Deal with the persons who receive the information, maybe they are willing to share.

[AirWolf]

Do not act like an idiot. I did not post any picture of any innocent people. Those who posted, have already deleted.

At current scenario FC is a criminal. According to your logic Tradefortress/Pirate40 might have done whatever they have done at gunpoint. So, unless u know, they did that intentionally, they are not criminal. Right ? Sorry, I'm NOT buying that. If FC is innocent, he has to come out in open and explain what has happened to the public money. Till then he is a criminal and the manhunt will be on.

+1 that is the right attitude, any silver lining of this is helping them, not us.

[AirWolf]

@MarbleBoss
You are not helping at all just causing more confusion. Nobody has a duty to disclose anything.

Under the law, this is named as accessory after the fact, he is withholding information about a party committing fraud that he admits he possesses

NOW, SPOONDOLIES CUSTOMERS: WILL YOU TRUST THIS COMPANY OR GUY WITH YOUR MONEY?

[RealMalatesta]

@MarbleBoss
You are not helping at all just causing more confusion. Nobody has a duty to disclose anything.

Under the law, this is named as accessory after the fact, he is withholding information about a party committing fraud that he admits he possesses

NOW, SPOONDOLIES CUSTOMERS: WILL YOU TRUST THIS COMPANY OR GUY WITH YOUR MONEY?

Frankly, you act like a teenager who has seen way too many movies.

Me, for my part, will trust Spondoolies. I know their business, I know who their managers are, I know where they are physically located, I know what they do for the community - and yes, I will keep buying their stuff.

As for you: You invested in a company without knowing what their business is, without knowing their managers, without knowing their physically location. And now you come here as Mister "Teenage-Bigmouth Wild-Avenger" and accuse others of wrongdoing -- after YOUR greed put you in the situation you are in?

Sorry, this IS ridicoulous.

If you would really be after the money, you would NOW do the proper research - and by "research" I don't mean googeling around without any basic knowledge of any law around the world and possibilities.

Believe me - research often has to be done quitely. What you try to do is bullying, shooting in the dark, hoping you'll hit someone. Good Luck with this - I let you know when my client has got his money back.

[AirWolf]

As for you: You invested in a company without knowing what their business is, without knowing their managers, without knowing their physically location. And now you come here as Mister "Teenage-Bigmouth Wild-Avenger" and accuse others of wrongdoing -- after YOUR greed put you in the situation you are in?

Sorry, this IS ridicoulous.

If you would really be after the money, you would NOW do the proper research - and by "research" I don't mean googeling around without any basic knowledge of any law around the world and possibilities.

Believe me - research often has to be done quitely. What you try to do is bullying, shooting in the dark, hoping you'll hit someone. Good Luck with this - I let you know when my client has got his money back.

So all of us idiots that bought AMHASH stuff either directly or via HL or Hashie are greedy bastards that deserve to be robbed and have to lay low in shame for our greediness?

THAT IS THE THINKING OF A THIEF.

I am the one with real experience getting my money back TWICE from scammers, in the other hand, you do honor your moniker RealMalaTesta which, in the italian part of it, means RealBadHead.

BTW: you are being ignored

[RealMalatesta]

@MarbleBoss
You are not helping at all just causing more confusion. Nobody has a duty to disclose anything.

Under the law, this is named as accessory after the fact, he is withholding information about a party committing fraud that he admits he possesses

NOW, SPOONDOLIES CUSTOMERS: WILL YOU TRUST THIS COMPANY OR GUY WITH YOUR MONEY?

Frankly, you act like a teenager who has seen way too many movies.

Me, for my part, will trust Spondoolies. I know their business, I know who their managers are, I know where they are physically located, I know what they do for the community - and yes, I will keep buying their stuff.

As for you: You invested in a company without knowing what their business is, without knowing their managers, without knowing their physically location. And now you come here as Mister "Teenage-Bigmouth Wild-Avenger" and accuse others of wrongdoing -- after YOUR greed put you in the situation you are in?

Sorry, this IS ridicoulous.

If you would really be after the money, you would NOW do the proper research - and by "research" I don't mean googeling around without any basic knowledge of any law around the world and possibilities.

Believe me - research often has to be done quitely. What you try to do is bullying, shooting in the dark, hoping you'll hit someone. Good Luck with this - I let you know when my client has got his money back.

I am the one with real experience getting my money back TWICE from scammers, in the other hand, you do honor your moniker RealMalaTesta which, in the italian part of it, means RealBadHead.

Good luck to you too, in your first time doing this...

Keep the records straigth: You are the one who gave his money THREE times to scammers. This tells me a lot about your "experience".

[l3sny]

So now you are going after spondooles AirWolf?

[AirWolf]

So now you are going after spondooles AirWolf?

@l3sny:

What is this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732733.msg10689470#msg10689470
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732733.msg10688374#msg10688374

Are you THIS related to AMHASH? Care to explain?

[l3sny]

I am in no way related to Amhash. Go and talk to Puppet. He is an expert in spreading FUD.

[l3sny]

This is the announcement I mentioned yesterday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982267.new#new

[flame1012]

Are other parts of FC's and Rockxies correspondence being translated by anyone?

[AirWolf]

Are other parts of FC's and Rockxies correspondence being translated by anyone?

Translation of the first part: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10695824#msg10695824
Translation of the second part has not come yet from byt411

[flame1012]

I saw that one, it ll be good if he can translate them all.

note: The translator said the other information was irelevant.

[RealMalatesta]

So all of us idiots that bought AMHASH stuff either directly or via HL or Hashie are greedy bastards that deserve to be robbed and have to lay low in shame for our greediness?

That is not what I'm saying. I say: You were too stupid to learn. You may cut yourself once - then you know it hurts. You may cut yourself intentionally a second time - then it is weird. You may cut yourself a third time intentionally - then it's plain stupid.

THAT IS THE THINKING OF A THIEF.

The one who knows the best how a thief thinks is the thief. So thanks for this insight.

I am the one with real experience getting my money back TWICE from scammers, in the other hand, you do honor your moniker RealMalaTesta which, in the italian part of it, means RealBadHead.

You also show a lack of historical knwoledge. Well, did I expect something else?

BTW: you are being ignored

Cool. So I can write for others to see that you are a teenager who is trying to bully innocent people while claiming that you want to get back your money. In your neigborhood, it may be normal that the one with the biggest mouth wins. In mine, the one with brains. So good luck.

[Guy Corem]

@MarbleBoss
You are not helping at all just causing more confusion. Nobody has a duty to disclose anything.

Under the law, this is named as accessory after the fact, he is withholding information about a party committing fraud that he admits he possesses

NOW, SPOONDOLIES CUSTOMERS: WILL YOU TRUST THIS COMPANY OR GUY WITH YOUR MONEY?

[RoadStress]

If it is his personal choice, then it is my personal choice to complaint at FTC against Spondoolies-Tech for being part of a larger conspiracy. He could simply reveal the info about FC and save himself...

The retardness in this thread is amazing.

NOW, SPOONDOLIES CUSTOMERS: WILL YOU TRUST THIS COMPANY OR GUY WITH YOUR MONEY?

Will you hunt down EVERYONE that took a picture with Rock Xie?

[RealMalatesta]

If it is his personal choice, then it is my personal choice to complaint at FTC against Spondoolies-Tech for being part of a larger conspiracy. He could simply reveal the info about FC and save himself...

The retardness in this thread is amazing.

NOW, SPOONDOLIES CUSTOMERS: WILL YOU TRUST THIS COMPANY OR GUY WITH YOUR MONEY?

Will you hunt down EVERYONE that took a picture with Rock Xie?

I've got a vid from a party at Rockminer... gee, he would have a lot to do to find all the people there and identify them. So basically, his mouth seems to be bigger than his brains.

[AirWolf]

BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I KNOW HAVE THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF FC'S MOTHER....

[l3sny]

You're sick Airwolf

[AirWolf]

You're sick Airwolf

No, just a wolf hunting my prey... relentlessly.

[electerium]

keep investigating, airwolf.

These people need to be outed.


If FC is kidnapped then it should be reported to the police. If he is being held against his permission in a foreign country it becomes a national matter for china.


Of course he isnt and it's just a ruse for him to cover his tracks.

[AirWolf]

keep investigating, airwolf.

These people need to be outed.


If FC is kidnapped then it should be reported to the police. If he is being held against his permission in a foreign country it becomes a national matter for china.


Of course he isnt and it's just a ruse for him to cover his tracks.

Exactly my thoughts, now i only need to contact some chinese guys to knock-knock Cat Mamma's door...

[Silverspoon]

...
If FC is kidnapped then it should be reported to the police. If he is being held against his permission in a foreign country it becomes a national matter for china...

People's Liberation Army Air Force being scrambled as we speak!

[AirWolf]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10737141#msg10737141

So basically: The miners were not stolen, but IMPOUNDED, FC is not missing but ARRESTED, and we are totally SCAMMED BEYOND REDEMPTION.

[flyingplows]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10737141#msg10737141

So basically: The miners were not stolen, but IMPOUNDED, FC is not missing but ARRESTED, and we are totally SCAMMED BEYOND REDEMPTION.

but is it really so...? besides that their fairy tale is a joke, are they trying to make things more complex and confusing on purpose... or like trying to suggest that friedcat is in jail, of course he should be in jail and i think he will end up there one way or another, but i don't think we should trust anything that comes from the mouth of scammers, only from independent sources  

[SaltySpitoon]

You have three related Topics running, I made a mod edit in one of your threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=986763) linking your other two topics, please continue your conversations in that single thread. I'll be locking these two so that people can reference them.