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May 10, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
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I will ask our Freicoin Alliance to have a look and see if we want to also promote our work and favorite coin this way.


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May 10, 2015, 08:19:39 PM
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I will ask our Freicoin Alliance to have a look and see if we want to also promote our work and favorite coin this way.



Thanks for your message, I just completed my intriguing read on Freicoin, thanks for that.  I invite you to post some info about the coin so readers could get to know more about it.

Freicoin appears to have a rather odd fit with PICISI.  I say odd because some deep underlined premises of Freicoin:'the 99%', 'keeping the money moving', and 'reinvestment' are all shared by PICISI, I especially like how the coin emphasis 'currency over commodity'.

When someone starts a crowd funding campaign at PICISI they will likely receive sponsorship offers of different types, depending on the appeal of the campaign the sponsor(s) and/or PICISI may also actively promote the campaign.  Site fees earned in fiat are used to 'rebuy' Pi (the PICISI issued currency) at CC exchanges that have Pi available to purchase.  If PICISI has an official exchange sponsors we will purchase all of our Pi at that site.

Think of 'rebuy' like recycling or recirculating with added value, as opposed to a buyback or buyout type situation in which something is removed from the system to force scarcity.

I like coins with a purpose, I call them 'purpose coins' and in some cases 'cause coins' like EMC2, I think the Freicoin message should be shared widely; I would like to help share that message.

Currently there is no set minimum donation amount however there will be a $100 (payable in any currency) minimum after site launch.

As a PICISI sponsor your coin might want to target site categories like 'community', 'health', and/or 'charity'.  Getting your message out is good, getting your coin used as a currency is ideal, PICISI can help with both objectives.

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May 11, 2015, 06:00:12 AM
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Thanks I have passed along the information to our members in the Freicoin Alliance and we will discuss it.

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May 12, 2015, 08:21:14 PM
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The following article http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2015/05/67507-bitcoin-alternative-hyper-teams-up-with-goldpieces-to-sponsor-digital-currency-crowdfunding-platform-picisi-launches-worldwide-crypto-gaming-network/  was reprinted from an earlier article put out by HYPERfuture about Goldpieces.   The article was sent to many different media desks for coverage.  One of the media desks was Crowdfund Insider, these guys are the crowdfunding industry leaders when it comes to crowdfunding media coverage.   If you visit the site you will see that they do a number of different thing in the crowdfunding space, they are highly ranked in all of the things that they do.

This article is more than an article about gaming, a particular CC, or a crowdfunding start-up, this article is actually represents a bridge between the CC world and the CF world.  Their target audience is extremely limited and highly focused, the audience is essentially made up of two types of people: campaign organizers and campaign donors.  If you look at the DNA of a CF organizer, a CF donor, and a CC speculator you will see very little difference because we are all cut from the same cloth, we are all: visionaries, strivers, investors, adventurers, gamblers, thinkers, creators, doers, motivators, leaders ... etc ... you know what I'm talking about because you are one too.

That article represents a CC story being told in a foreign CF land as such we should do what we can to support our story in their land so that more of them are encouraged and inspired to know more about our world.

I strongly encourage all that reads this message to write a comment at the article, mention any CC you wish but make sure that you draw positive attention to the article so that the CF people will be motivated to learn more about the CC industry.  please tweet
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May 17, 2015, 02:10:38 AM
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It has come to my attention that Vod was feed poor intelligence by someone wanting to be a PICISI sponsor, the information did not originate from any PICISI sponsor as we were mislead to believe.  Not one of the 23 PICISI sponsors issued a complaint, requested a refund, or expressed a desire to change their association.

So all of Vod's irresponsible behavior was not in defense of any PICISI's sponsor, that's why he would not tell me who it was because he could not, it was a total fabrication, no sponsor complaint ever existed.

To everyone reading this message PICISI is a good plan, PICISI will be an honorable company, and PICISI will do great things for the CC industry.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

Here is what hasn't changed -- sponsorship is 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed, always was, always will be.
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It has come to my attention that Vod was feed poor intelligence by someone wanting to be a PICISI sponsor, the information did not originate from any PICISI sponsor as we were mislead to believe.  Not one of the 23 PICISI sponsors issued a complaint, requested a refund, or expressed a desire to change their association.

So all of Vod's irresponsible behavior was not in defense of any PICISI's sponsor, that's why he would not tell me who it was because he could not, it was a total fabrication, no sponsor complaint ever existed.

To everyone reading this message PICISI is a good plan, PICISI will be an honorable company, and PICISI will do great things for the CC industry.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

Here is what hasn't changed -- sponsorship is 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed, always was, always will be.

1. You will not be releasing any personal information or CV Armis?

2. You have closed PICISI to everyone and only those who would have to be positively vetted  by you are going to gain entry into the program?

Does this not seem to be a bit backwards?

You want support yet you are not willing to provide any details about yourself and yet you want to ask those applying to go through a more rigorous application process to make sure they are the 'right' sponsor?

Ok I think you lost some credibility there on that alone.

100% Satisfaction? Seriously what does that mean?

I am not satisfied and I am not even a sponsor and I am not likely to go through some ambiguous right of passage while we can't verify your references and experience.

Again Armis are you going to provide a more detailed profile or not?

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May 17, 2015, 07:12:33 AM
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It has come to my attention that Vod was feed poor intelligence by someone wanting to be a PICISI sponsor, the information did not originate from any PICISI sponsor as we were mislead to believe.  Not one of the 23 PICISI sponsors issued a complaint, requested a refund, or expressed a desire to change their association.

So all of Vod's irresponsible behavior was not in defense of any PICISI's sponsor, that's why he would not tell me who it was because he could not, it was a total fabrication, no sponsor complaint ever existed.

To everyone reading this message PICISI is a good plan, PICISI will be an honorable company, and PICISI will do great things for the CC industry.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

Here is what hasn't changed -- sponsorship is 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed, always was, always will be.

1. You will not be releasing any personal information or CV Armis?

2. You have closed PICISI to everyone and only those who would have to be positively vetted  by you are going to gain entry into the program?

Does this not seem to be a bit backwards?

You want support yet you are not willing to provide any details about yourself and yet you want to ask those applying to go through a more rigorous application process to make sure they are the 'right' sponsor?

Ok I think you lost some credibility there on that alone.

100% Satisfaction? Seriously what does that mean?

I am not satisfied and I am not even a sponsor and I am not likely to go through some ambiguous right of passage while we can't verify your references and experience.

Again Armis are you going to provide a more detailed profile or not?

I said it earlier and I'm repeating it with emphasis: if anyone has a shred of fear, doubt, or reservation about PICISI or me, my high advice is to not associate.

Yes, there will be a vetting process, I didn't appreciate the nonsense I went through because of someone's doubts.  I was very disappointed when I found out how this all started.

As for what "100% Satisfaction Guaranteed" means, it means if we don't meet the standard that our sponsor expects of us, regardless of how high, they are entitled to a 100% refund and a sincere apology for the disappointment as we terminate that association.  The result will enable us to focus more attention on the customers who appreciate the service.  When they are satisfied they will likely refer us to their friends and so on, and so on.

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May 17, 2015, 10:14:04 AM
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So for clarity.

You will NOT reveal who your are or provide any references or proof of life / address etc... thanks got it.

That is highly suspect and people should avoid this program until you find a way to provide that information so people can review who is behind the program and vet you properly. This is certainly not a trust inducing project if you want to remain anonymous and I say that without any vitriol or anger. No one in this community should put any of their time into a project run by someone unwilling to present their credentials.


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So for clarity.

You will NOT reveal who your are or provide any references or proof of life / address etc... thanks got it.

That is highly suspect and people should avoid this program until you find a way to provide that information so people can review who is behind the program and vet you properly. This is certainly not a trust inducing project if you want to remain anonymous and I say that without any vitriol or anger. No one in this community should put any of their time into a project run by someone unwilling to present their credentials.



Tell that to the guy (or group) that created Bitcoin. and the millions that use it daily including you.

You have a right to your doubts and you have a right to share your doubts but when your doubts turn to false accusations and an irresponsible smear campaign that's wayyy overboard.  Then I have a right to be angry.

Here's the thing Bicknellski when someone is preparing something and you don't know what they are doing or how they are doing what they are doing it is wise to stand back and watch than to try jumping in to 'help'.  Especially if your assistance could result in a big mess that someone else has to clean up.  

If you don't know, if you don't feel comfortable, if you have any reservations whatsoever stop right there.

Vod never had any sponsorship interest in PICISI and never even bothered to suggest he did, his interest was rather clear and specific he wanted to know who was behind the project and I told him that was not a matter of discussion at this juncture.   I specifically told him that after all of the prerequisite goals have been achieved to form then we would determine the disclosures that would be made.  That was not satisfactory for him so he issued negative feedback, issued a host of false claims at various PICISI threads (including 3 PICISI sponsor threads), and continues trying to extort information from me that I have absolutely no obligation to release.

Here are more of his insane antics he is performing all in his effort to extort information from me:

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This is going nowhere.  You know what you're doing is wrong (and illegal) but you won't change anything because you have a "get of jail free" card in the form of anonymity.  You don't care if most people initially think you're a charity because it helps with donations.  You're trying to see if you can build community support to continue your long con - but I believe this community is smarter than you think.

A good scam buster knows when to step back and let the scammer continue to damage himself. That is what I'm going to do.  I'm still going to contact your sponsors/supporters (I haven't yet) and link them to the PICSIS website I'm building so you can't fool more gullible people.  This will happen in the next couple days week (I have an important exam on Tuesday I need to study for). (If you have a problem with this, you'll have to step out of the shadows and deal with me legally, like an non-scamming adult.)

But I'm done arguing in circles with you.  WHEN YOU ARE READY to address the community's issues, back your words up and make changes, contact me and I'll help you.  But don't contact me until you are sincere about your desire to do things the proper, trustworthy way.


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if you don't understand what you are seeing you are seeing a thread that Vod controls that was locked prior to that last comment, reopen specifically to permit that last comment to be posted, then locked immediately afterwards again.   So who do you think created the "OFFICAL PICISI" account?  I'll give you a hint, it wasn't anyone authorized by PICISI.

Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account (see spelling of official)
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling)
 - creating a pickissy account


In whose name was that done, at whose inspiration was that done, who is cheerleading the effort "Need to give VOD a bone or a much better explanation or he will keep at you."
and "I believe he is a problem for you not me. You should do everything you can to clarify your position."  Those quoted words when I first read them I thought came from someone that supported me, however I later learned they came from someone that was actually motivating the monster.

And now as that provocateur distances himself from Vod's wickedness he wants to give the impression that he played no role in the mess -- THAT is dishonesty, THAT is deception, and THAT is the very definition of UNTRUSTWORTHY.   That is why I need to vet new sponsor applicants because I see how their ignorance can damage me, I see how their doubt can harm PICISI, and I see how their fear can make a big mess for everyone but them.


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May 17, 2015, 11:28:46 PM
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OK walls of text are not required.

I'm not VOD.
You are not building bitcoin or writing a white paper on cryptocoins etc.
People should avoid this project if you're going to remain anonymous.

The diversion down this rehashing of the problems you have with VOD are off topic based on my questions directed at your identity. You refuse to discuss your identity at all and the deflection away from it is very curious. Who if any sponsors know your identity?

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Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account - not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

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You refuse to discuss your identity at all and the deflection away from it is very curious. Who if any sponsors know your identity?

Good question - and the answer is none.

I don't find it curious at all why he refuses to discuss his identity or what he'll do with his fraudulent "donations" - he is a scammer, and that is what they do.   Undecided

Armis gave me permission to speak for PICISI earlier today.  My response was here:
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May 18, 2015, 01:49:39 AM
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OK walls of text are not required.

I'm not VOD.
You are not building bitcoin or writing a white paper on cryptocoins etc.
People should avoid this project if you're going to remain anonymous.

The diversion down this rehashing of the problems you have with VOD are off topic based on my questions directed at your identity. You refuse to discuss your identity at all and the deflection away from it is very curious. Who if any sponsors know your identity?


"OK walls of text are not required." we both realize that we both are not only writing to one another we are writing to the public, you want people to see what you are writing and I want the same.

My logic is consistent, your logic is inconsistent.  According to your logic just because I told you about part of my idea somehow that entitles you to receive information I'm not prepared to share.  If your support is contingent on getting more information than is available or would be provided then just stop.  You don't try to extort that information.

You said you are not Vod, I know that, and I also know who invited Vod into the discussion that's why it was relevant.  My whole disposition changed when I learned who started this nonsense.  But then when I looked back on the public comment and the PM exchange it all made sense to me.  Which is why the sponsorship invitation was withdrawn.


A white paper is essentially an idea in writing, the written idea document for PICISI is closer to a dissertation. none of which need to be signed.  Whole books are written by unnamed authors.  A business on the other hand often needs recognized responsibility, when PICISI is formed it will be done responsibly, and in accordance with the law of the land it is domiciled.  But we are not there yet, and you acknowledged that exact fact when you said:

...  You are in the formative stages of development of this collective resource business / commercial entity....

I not only shared some of my ideas I also showed you my launch count down.  So everyone was aware of what was happening as they happened, no one has to ask for updates updates are continuous.  Obviously I should have kept the name of the company secret too so your pal Vod would not have that to play with. 

You said: "People should avoid this project if you're going to remain anonymous." I say: "People should only do what they are comfortable doing."   You clearly were not comfortable, so why try to pry? 

You said: "... my questions directed at your identity. You refuse to discuss your identity at all and the deflection away from it is very curious. Who if any sponsors know your identity?"   Your obsession with my identity is not my problem.  But I'll answer the question again as I have done each and every time you and others have brought it up:
"if PICISI has not yet launched no disclosures will be made".


 
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You said: "People should avoid this project if you're going to remain anonymous." I say: "People should only do what they are comfortable doing."   You clearly were not comfortable, so why try to pry?  

So let's say Armis is a serial rapist and owns a bar where he drugs and rapes women.

Bicknellski comes along and says we should avoid Armis' bar because he rapes women in there.

Armis says "People should only do what they are comfortable doing.  If you are uncomfortable with my raping women, why try to pry?".

That's not how ethical and moral people work, Armis.  We see you scamming people for months, we are going to say something about it - not just ignore it and not get involved.

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"  - Edward Burke.
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Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how ethical it was while you were thinking about it?
I was unethical as a though, it was unethical when you started to process, it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that said you would not do such things, it was unethical when you used it to access the site, it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did.
that applies to each of the accounts that you made that have any relation to PICISI.

To call yourself "honest and ethical" after admitting to mass unethical behavior is a liar admitting to being a liar and wanting credit for momentarily telling the truth.

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You said: "People should avoid this project if you're going to remain anonymous." I say: "People should only do what they are comfortable doing."   You clearly were not comfortable, so why try to pry?  

So let's say Armis is a serial rapist and owns a bar where he drugs and rapes women.

Bicknellski comes along and says we should avoid Armis' bar because he rapes women in there.

Armis says "People should only do what they are comfortable doing.  If you are uncomfortable with my raping women, why try to pry?".

That's not how ethical and moral people work, Armis.  We see you scamming people for months, we are going to say something about it - not just ignore it and not get involved.

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"  - Edward Burke.



Who is claiming to have been scammed?  You ran all over the palace screaming scam, scam, scam but no one was scammed.  





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Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how ethical it was while you were thinking about it?
I was unethical as a though, it was unethical when you started to process, it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that said you would not do such things, it was unethical when you used it to access the site, it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did.
that applies to each of the accounts that you made that have any relation to PICISI.

To call yourself "honest and ethical" after admitting to mass unethical behavior is a pathological liar admitting to being a liar and wanting credit for momentarily telling the truth.

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You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how ethical it was while you were thinking about it?
I was unethical as a though, it was unethical when you started to process, it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that said you would not do such things, it was unethical when you used it to access the site, it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did.
that applies to each of the accounts that you made that have any relation to PICISI.

To call yourself "honest and ethical" after admitting to mass unethical behavior is a liar admitting to being a liar and wanting credit for momentarily telling the truth.

Armis, unethical behavior is pretending to be a legitimate company with a board of directors and a registered charity, when really you were just in play time.  It was unethical to continue that behavior for over six months and only stop it when you were caught by a scam buster.  You hide in the shadows - hence the reputation of your being shady.  You have yet to launch a website or register a business - your words are always "when..."

What was done by Vod was not unethical.

No fake accounts were created.  Vod created the "Official PICISI" account to be the forum's official spokesperson for the official PICISI project.  That was a real account with a real legal purpose.  Later, it was pointed out that it looked too similar to your fraudulent "PICISI" account and there was a chance "Official PICISI" could be used to mislead people and steal your donations.  Vod agreed, so he shut that account down and it is no longer being used.  That was a very ethical thing for him to do.

Vod has now created this account - Pickissy - which is the phonetic pronunciation of the official PICISI website and project.  This account was created specifically to promote the Official PICISI project and will not be used for general scam busting, as the Vod account is.  That is the reason for the new account.  Nothing unethical or shady here - Vod has never tried to deny he was behind these accounts, and has even labelled this account as being his alt.

I'm sure that most people here will agree that your anonymous actions are the unethical ones, and not the actions made by Vod, who is considered to be well trusted and whose real life identity is well know.  

You have 6 days left Armis to take a shit or get off the plot.  Six more days to pretend you run a company and need donations.

(ugh:  Armis is copying and pasting this same BS in multiple threads.)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060445.msg11405826#msg11405826
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May 18, 2015, 02:44:03 AM
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words backed by nothing - not worth reading

This is going nowhere.  You know what you're doing is wrong (and illegal) but you won't change anything because you have a "get of jail free" card in the form of anonymity.  You don't care if most people initially think you're a charity because it helps with donations.  You're trying to see if you can build community support to continue your long con - but I believe this community is smarter than you think.

A good scam buster knows when to step back and let the scammer continue to damage himself. That is what I'm going to do.  I'm still going to contact your sponsors/supporters (I haven't yet) and link them to the PICSIS website I'm building so you can't fool more gullible people.  This will happen in the next couple days week (I have an important exam on Tuesday I need to study for). (If you have a problem with this, you'll have to step out of the shadows and deal with me legally, like an non-scamming adult.)

But I'm done arguing in circles with you.  WHEN YOU ARE READY to address the community's issues, back your words up and make changes, contact me and I'll help you.  But don't contact me until you are sincere about your desire to do things the proper, trustworthy way.




notice that that thread was locked yesterday after Vod made his entry and was apparently unlocked to create the new post then relocked after the post.
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May 18, 2015, 03:29:47 AM
Last edit: May 18, 2015, 03:51:33 AM by Vod
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I wanted to point out what type of person this scammer Armis is.

He has copy and pasted this exact *same text* into nine threads so far - even threads I have never been part of, and threads that haven't been posted in in over a year.  He reeks of desperation and has no consideration for others on the forum.  He knows I'm not going to follow him to thread after thread, so he knows this is the way he can accuse me of BS without my being able to defend.

This is SPAM - this is your EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.    Roll Eyes

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