New Diff thread Mar 8 to Mar 22.

[notlist3d]

Well one thing that the spreadsheet, nor bitcoinwisdom will take into account is the ddos attacks that appear (somewhat) to be over. If the attacks are generally over then we would have seen a temporary drop in the hashrate that using statistical analysis would not be able to pick up.

I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period

well the spreadsheet has real time number which is about   -0.50  that is the actually number if we jump now.

It has future numbers at 3 and 5 days.  Those numbers may be wrong due to the ddos attack.  But the real number is for right now.

Looking good

Bitcoin Difficulty:    47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty:    47,514,987,511 (+0.18%)
Adjust time:    After 960 Blocks, About 6.7 days

I personally think effect of DDOS is not huge on difficulty.  It was surprising though how much it could effect a pool if you watched antpool during. Most miner's should have fail over pools.  I'm sure lazyness caught some but majority should be fine.

[skuser]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

[philipma1957]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

Debbie Downer  

This is a spec thread in  the spec  section.  It is for fun more then any other thing.  

It also provides a longer history  since there have been more then 20 of them.

If you go back and read them all , my common theme has been diff will slow and level off.

I have mentioned that in a ton of the threads.  So far I have been correct about the diff growth entering a new stage.

A lot of good ideas have popped up here and we have had some fun.  Suchmoon has made things a lot more interesting.

Biggest surprise for me  was the price tank after the sp20's and s-5 's came out.  Price was over 400 in NOV and  is now under 300.

[notlist3d]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

Do you mine yourself? I find it a fun to spend a little time.  I would not agree with thread having no value.  I find it fun to speculate.

Sure we all could just wait till difficulty change and not guess.  But that would not be much fun.

[philipma1957]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

 

I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.

Even better info then you realize  we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.

  In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali.  power is 25 cents.  I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free.  He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents.  I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.

there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.

[aurel57]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

 

I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.

Even better info then you realize  we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.

  In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali.  power is 25 cents.  I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free.  He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents.  I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.

there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.

Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.

[frankenmint]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

 

I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.

Even better info then you realize  we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.

  In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali.  power is 25 cents.  I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free.  He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents.  I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.

there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.

Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.

LOL you're not Dave Carlson Right (joking)

What hardware are you running?  I know a diff. guy in your exact same situation with a full facility but NO capacity for other hardware that he has sitting on shelf.

[aurel57]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

 

I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.

Even better info then you realize  we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.

  In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali.  power is 25 cents.  I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free.  He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents.  I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.

there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.

Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.

LOL you're not Dave Carlson Right (joking)

What hardware are you running?  I know a diff. guy in your exact same situation with a full facility but NO capacity for other hardware that he has sitting on shelf.

I rather have shipped my S1's to someone than selling them on Craigslist at $50 a piece when I did. Then I would have even maybe sent some of my S3's as I had to sell to make room for the S5's in the basement. Even now thinking of getting rid of more before summer gets here and things get to hot.

[notlist3d]

Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.

 

I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.

Even better info then you realize  we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.

  In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali.  power is 25 cents.  I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free.  He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents.  I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.

there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.

Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.

LOL you're not Dave Carlson Right (joking)

What hardware are you running?  I know a diff. guy in your exact same situation with a full facility but NO capacity for other hardware that he has sitting on shelf.

I rather have shipped my S1's to someone than selling them on Craigslist at $50 a piece when I did. Then I would have even maybe sent some of my S3's as I had to sell to make room for the S5's in the basement. Even now thinking of getting rid of more before summer gets here and things get to hot.

Summer is a pain for us miners.  The free winter air is very nice to have.  So far I think I'm down to a level I can keep all summer.  But I am watching close to make sure I don't need any more fans. 

Depending on the miner you might look into underclocking.  I know that helped me on a few miners.

[Mikestang]

Summer is a pain for us miners.  The free winter air is very nice to have.  So far I think I'm down to a level I can keep all summer.  But I am watching close to make sure I don't need any more fans. 

Depending on the miner you might look into underclocking.  I know that helped me on a few miners.

Unless you live in a desert like I do, then winter air is just as hot as summer air.

It was 90*F all weekend, my AC has been running since last month.  Plus I pay $0.20/kwh and up.  Good think I only mine as a hobby, not for profit.

[philipma1957]

Summer is a pain for us miners.  The free winter air is very nice to have.  So far I think I'm down to a level I can keep all summer.  But I am watching close to make sure I don't need any more fans. 

Depending on the miner you might look into underclocking.  I know that helped me on a few miners.

Unless you live in a desert like I do, then winter air is just as hot as summer air.

It was 90*F all weekend, my AC has been running since last month.  Plus I pay $0.20/kwh and up.  Good think I only mine as a hobby, not for profit.

yeah I am in NJ

Fall
Winter
Spring  all at 13 cents a kwatt and with heat benefits say 10 cents a kwatt

Summer 16 cents a kwatt  and with heat penalty say 18 cents a kwatt

[adaseb]

I got free electricity over here but with the coming spring it will come down to shutting some miners down. Whenever its 40F or higher, the GPU miners need to be powered off due to massive heat.

All of my miners are very inefficient. I got GPUs, KNC Jupiters, and some S3+.

The S3+ are my most efficient miners.

I didn't want to pull the trigger on any more efficient miners because they all seem overpriced at the moment. All the miners I got made ROI a while ago so everyday is a positive day. I don't think I can buy an S5 or SP20 and have to wait 6 months to get ROI. I really wish the prices were more fair when it came to pricing mining equipment.

[notlist3d]

I got free electricity over here but with the coming spring it will come down to shutting some miners down. Whenever its 40F or higher, the GPU miners need to be powered off due to massive heat.

All of my miners are very inefficient. I got GPUs, KNC Jupiters, and some S3+.

The S3+ are my most efficient miners.

I didn't want to pull the trigger on any more efficient miners because they all seem overpriced at the moment. All the miners I got made ROI a while ago so everyday is a positive day. I don't think I can buy an S5 or SP20 and have to wait 6 months to get ROI. I really wish the prices were more fair when it came to pricing mining equipment.

And that is one of the great things about mining community being so big.  I know at around 10 cents I decided to get rid of S3+'s before summer heat.  But with cheap and "free" there is a market for them still.  And the S3's are built pretty rock solid.

[aurel57]

We hit 70 today here in Northern Indiana and I hear my S5's fans cycling up and down in the basement.... The wife is not going to like this..  

[Prelude]

We hit 70 today here in Northern Indiana and I hear my S5's fans cycling up and down in the basement.... The wife is not going to like this..  

I've got all my windows open in the basement, going to have to move the heaters out to the garage soon. I just know that as soon as I bring them out, cold weather will be back.

[philipma1957]

I got free electricity over here but with the coming spring it will come down to shutting some miners down. Whenever its 40F or higher, the GPU miners need to be powered off due to massive heat.

All of my miners are very inefficient. I got GPUs, KNC Jupiters, and some S3+.

The S3+ are my most efficient miners.

I didn't want to pull the trigger on any more efficient miners because they all seem overpriced at the moment. All the miners I got made ROI a while ago so everyday is a positive day. I don't think I can buy an S5 or SP20 and have to wait 6 months to get ROI. I really wish the prices were more fair when it came to pricing mining equipment.

And that is one of the great things about mining community being so big.  I know at around 10 cents I decided to get rid of S3+'s before summer heat.  But with cheap and "free" there is a market for them still.  And the S3's are built pretty rock solid.

I still run a pair of batch 1 s-3's at my friends office.
 We have a 2.4 cent power deal at his place.  must be 600 to 800 watts must be quiet.

The pair of s-3's running at freq 212 hash 850 gh and use 650 watts. They will earn money until diff is 100

[notlist3d]

Bitcoin Difficulty:    47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty:    47,508,999,644 (+0.17%)
Adjust time:    After 820 Blocks, About 5.7 days

And BTC around 290.  Looking like another nice difficulty jump so far.

[philipma1957]

Bitcoin Difficulty:    47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty:    47,508,999,644 (+0.17%)
Adjust time:    After 820 Blocks, About 5.7 days

And BTC around 290.  Looking like another nice difficulty jump so far.

yeah they can just chug a long.

Luck to all mining.

[SimplisticStu]

-0.48% (at time of post) and price staying sub $300, would be nice to see a decline in difficulty and to break through the £300 barrier again or am I asking too much right now?

[adaseb]

-0.48% (at time of post) and price staying sub $300, would be nice to see a decline in difficulty and to break through the £300 barrier again or am I asking too much right now?

Won't happen. Either price will break $300 and difficulty will rise, or price will fall and difficulty will stay the same or go down.