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Question: What would you like to change on the Battleship?
No game rules change. - 1 (5.3%)
Add special weapons. - 5 (26.3%)
Options for select grid size, ships count/length etc. - 1 (5.3%)
Cash out option during the game. - 3 (15.8%)
Player VS Player mode. - 9 (47.4%)
Anything else (post your suggestion, please). - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 19

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March 19, 2015, 04:50:19 PM
 #101

Ok. It was me Smiley

In around 24h from 0.00000500 satoshi  (TTT) i make 0.2 BTC and (almost) all i withdraw.  @Baumi can confirm that, and for that this game is suspended.

Guys - there was no hack - give me one hour with this game on 0.05 (under your control) - half for me Wink

Yeah, you are right. Payout function is wrong, we need to fix it. Fortunately, for beta-testing we set up the max-bet limit to 50 mBTC only.

We had no time for the fix it so far. But we will deploy updated version as soon as possible.


Can be lower Wink

It was no about payments.. Did you check history of my games?

So far there was no time to do that. We don't know the reason. Maybe the dealer bot is too weak.
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March 20, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
 #102

Ok. It was me Smiley

In around 24h from 0.00000500 satoshi  (TTT) i make 0.2 BTC and (almost) all i withdraw.  @Baumi can confirm that, and for that this game is suspended.

Guys - there was no hack - give me one hour with this game on 0.05 (under your control) - half for me Wink

Yeah, you are right. Payout function is wrong, we need to fix it. Fortunately, for beta-testing we set up the max-bet limit to 50 mBTC only.

We had no time for the fix it so far. But we will deploy updated version as soon as possible.


Can be lower Wink

It was no about payments.. Did you check history of my games?

Do you give us an advice, what we should looking for? Or do you let us do it by the hard way?

We cannot lunch Battleship until we figure out why payout function is so generous.
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March 20, 2015, 10:25:36 PM
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Ok. It was me Smiley

In around 24h from 0.00000500 satoshi  (TTT) i make 0.2 BTC and (almost) all i withdraw.  @Baumi can confirm that, and for that this game is suspended.

Guys - there was no hack - give me one hour with this game on 0.05 (under your control) - half for me Wink

Yeah, you are right. Payout function is wrong, we need to fix it. Fortunately, for beta-testing we set up the max-bet limit to 50 mBTC only.

We had no time for the fix it so far. But we will deploy updated version as soon as possible.


Can be lower Wink

It was no about payments.. Did you check history of my games?

Do you give us an advice, what we should looking for? Or do you let us do it by the hard way?

We cannot lunch Battleship until we figure out why payout function is so generous.


I will show you how I did it for 1BTC and i will find a way to shout down possibilites of winnings in this same way..

Edit: but rest should to be in priv..

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March 20, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
 #104

Ok. It was me Smiley

In around 24h from 0.00000500 satoshi  (TTT) i make 0.2 BTC and (almost) all i withdraw.  @Baumi can confirm that, and for that this game is suspended.

Guys - there was no hack - give me one hour with this game on 0.05 (under your control) - half for me Wink

Yeah, you are right. Payout function is wrong, we need to fix it. Fortunately, for beta-testing we set up the max-bet limit to 50 mBTC only.

We had no time for the fix it so far. But we will deploy updated version as soon as possible.


Can be lower Wink

It was no about payments.. Did you check history of my games?

Do you give us an advice, what we should looking for? Or do you let us do it by the hard way?

We cannot lunch Battleship until we figure out why payout function is so generous.


I will show you how I did it for 1BTC and i will find a way to shout down possibilites of winnings in this same way..

Edit: but rest should to be in priv..

Oh man, I though a free advice. Sad You already took profit for bug exploit and we stopped the game only and let you withdraw all without babbling. I just wished to make debugging easier and spend time on other issues.

Don't worry, I'm going to start investigation...
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March 21, 2015, 12:22:10 AM
 #105

Ok. It was me Smiley

In around 24h from 0.00000500 satoshi  (TTT) i make 0.2 BTC and (almost) all i withdraw.  @Baumi can confirm that, and for that this game is suspended.

Guys - there was no hack - give me one hour with this game on 0.05 (under your control) - half for me Wink

Yeah, you are right. Payout function is wrong, we need to fix it. Fortunately, for beta-testing we set up the max-bet limit to 50 mBTC only.

We had no time for the fix it so far. But we will deploy updated version as soon as possible.


Can be lower Wink

It was no about payments.. Did you check history of my games?

Do you give us an advice, what we should looking for? Or do you let us do it by the hard way?

We cannot lunch Battleship until we figure out why payout function is so generous.


I will show you how I did it for 1BTC and i will find a way to shout down possibilites of winnings in this same way..

Edit: but rest should to be in priv..

Oh man, I though a free advice. Sad You already took profit for bug exploit and we stopped the game only and let you withdraw all without babbling. I just wished to make debugging easier and spend time on other issues.

Don't worry, I'm going to start investigation...


 Grin

in my opinion there was no bug. if you dont understand how that happen you will lose much more when you run this game again.

in next two days i will be off, so you can test it easy.. Wink

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March 21, 2015, 01:44:20 AM
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possible that we could play between players?
because it would be fair I think if we duel with human

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March 28, 2015, 10:10:13 AM
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New Version Released

Hey guys,
we just relaunched updated Battleship game. Sorry for this quite long delay, we excepted the update does not take so much time.

We found out that the Battleship is not a game of chance only. There are some tricks which you can help to get an advantage in the long run. Firstly, we though that an advantage is so small that we can simply ignore that. But as you showed us, we were wrong and someone of you beat the house Smiley

Look & feel stays same, this update was focused on dealer bot. The bot computes probabilities of ship occurrence for each square. Then provably fair shuffle is used to select one of the top squares.

As mentioned above, there are several tricks how to manage the game. In my personal opinion, these tricks do the Battleship game much more interesting than e.g. minesweeper, because skill influence results, not a chance only.

Good Luck and Do not beat house again  Wink


@kotwica666: thanks for PM me hints.
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March 28, 2015, 10:12:46 AM
 #108

New Version Released

Hey guys,
we just relaunched updated Battleship game. Sorry for this quite long delay, we excepted the update does not take so much time.

We found out that the Battleship is not a game of chance only. There are some tricks which you can help to get an advantage in the long run. Firstly, we though that an advantage is so small that we can simply ignore that. But as you showed us, we were wrong and someone of you beat the house Smiley

Look & feel stays same, this update was focused on dealer bot. The bot computes probabilities of ship occurrence for each square. Then provably fair shuffle is used to select one of the top squares.

As mentioned above, there are several tricks how to manage the game. In my personal opinion, these tricks do the Battleship game much more interesting than e.g. minesweeper, because skill influence results, not a chance only.

Good Luck and Do not beat house again  Wink


@kotwica666: thanks for PM me hints.

So pretty much you could win before but you made it impossible to win against the house now, thanks for the info

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March 28, 2015, 10:15:05 AM
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Good Luck and Do not beat house again  Wink

Thank you for those inspiring words.. Wink
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March 28, 2015, 10:27:17 AM
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New Version Released

Hey guys,
we just relaunched updated Battleship game. Sorry for this quite long delay, we excepted the update does not take so much time.

We found out that the Battleship is not a game of chance only. There are some tricks which you can help to get an advantage in the long run. Firstly, we though that an advantage is so small that we can simply ignore that. But as you showed us, we were wrong and someone of you beat the house Smiley

Look & feel stays same, this update was focused on dealer bot. The bot computes probabilities of ship occurrence for each square. Then provably fair shuffle is used to select one of the top squares.

As mentioned above, there are several tricks how to manage the game. In my personal opinion, these tricks do the Battleship game much more interesting than e.g. minesweeper, because skill influence results, not a chance only.

Good Luck and Do not beat house again  Wink


@kotwica666: thanks for PM me hints.

So pretty much you could win before but you made it impossible to win against the house now, thanks for the info

Don't worry. It's still a game of chance. You can win or lose. But you can be more successful (similar to Blackjack card counting). Try it and you will see that dealer bot is not an "unbeatable machine". The old bot was just too weak.
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March 28, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
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Let the game begin..  Wink

was someone else, who overcame old bot?

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March 28, 2015, 01:46:32 PM
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Let the game begin..  Wink

was someone else, who overcame old bot?

Nobody overcame yours 4,000,000%

Fortunately  Smiley
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April 03, 2015, 05:23:04 PM
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Hey guys,

we've decreased house edge as we promised at the game lunch. House edge is 1% only from now. It seems that beta version problems passed way.

Good Luck!
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April 26, 2015, 02:38:14 PM
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Tried almost all the games, they're quite fun. Especially the battle ships, love the sound effects.
Made a small little profit and withdrew but it went to pending, so I guess they're not instant.

Nevertheless, good site.  Smiley

 

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April 26, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
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Tried almost all the games, they're quite fun. Especially the battle ships, love the sound effects.
Made a small little profit and withdrew but it went to pending, so I guess they're not instant.

Nevertheless, good site.  Smiley

All withdraws are processed.

Thanks for quick review and congratulations  Wink
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April 26, 2015, 04:26:51 PM
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the game is really cool in my opinion. even to claim free bitcoins you have to play a game Cheesy
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April 26, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
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Is pvp mode still working?
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April 26, 2015, 06:11:59 PM
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Is pvp mode still working?

Sorry, current version of Battleship does not support PVP mode.
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April 26, 2015, 07:25:00 PM
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hehe yeahh its fun but i dont understand i got win in game but the result i lost some coins.. how to calculate it?

Hiii same problem here, anyone can share?
Or maybe i must won with great shot more than 20 or anything else??


And its cool game with good site..

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April 26, 2015, 07:55:51 PM
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 #120

hehe yeahh its fun but i dont understand i got win in game but the result i lost some coins.. how to calculate it?

Hiii same problem here, anyone can share?
Or maybe i must won with great shot more than 20 or anything else??


And its cool game with good site..

Payout is calculated as ratio of player's hits to dealer's hits. There is only 1% house edge. This low house edge is recognizable on draw only. Even on one hit win, you are winning coins...

EDIT: In this thread, you can read a little bit about payout function "evolution". Because this game is not offered anywhere else (like e.g. Blackjack), we had to design game rules from scratch. Unfortunately for us, we undervalued weaknesses that led to temporary game suspend. Some players were able to beat the dealer in constant manner.
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