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<snipped> You realise if you keep that crap up you are asking for trouble.. Just a warning, its what messed you tards up last time! Best to be quiet as a mouse child, take it or leave it its good, free advice. Someone taking offense to a curtain being pulled back? What seems to be the problem now? And the threats are great. What trouble might that be? I hope you are not speaking of physical harm. You might as well get your them all out now or are you withholding information for later destructive use? Seems a bit ironic because you are here to help. And the statement, "its what messed you tards up last time!" is very damning. It is actually an admission of guilt. So now that we know you were either involved with and/or behind the attack what are your actual intentions here. This is really not looking good for you. Go ahead and let us in on the skinny. You might have noticed that this thread is not moderated which I am sure is a surprise to you and might make you a little nervous, but I assure you it is ok to let us in on your secrets and threats towards us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZeDFwTcnCc@Troublesome96 LongAndShort has a proven track record of exposing scams. I said at first that he's a "class act". I forgot to mention that his tenacity, gift with language but mostly his expert dev skills make him a fearsome enemy; the "Mack the Knife" of BCT. I discovered this the hard way when he took a machete to stealthcoin. As I mentioned earlier I owe him for this, and whilst it was hard for me to admit at the time he was right I was strong enough to admit he was. If LongAndShort has "caught the scent" it may already be too late. I have witnessed him almost single-handedly bring down an entire (scam)coin. If there is anything scammy happening here I would take his advise seriously and not "ask for trouble" by trolling The Shadow Project. TY. Didn't 00Smurf actually release those chat logs? or am I confused with another coin? I don't think a machete was required after that. "Gift with language"? When he first posted here he *drops mic* (wannabe rapper i guess) and apparently it landed square in your mouth. "caught the scent"/tenacity - sounds more like dry labbing to me actually having hard proven facts of what either a dev posted regarding tech or numbers or other incriminating evidence is another issue entirely. Was prometheus not a heavy investor of SDC? I thought he said he was going to dump it at one time during the whole blocknet fiasco. You owe L&S for his help regarding giving you info on stealth? I guess you were not following it unfold yourself on the forums. I do not remember him at all on the thread where we were pulling back the curtain. After a few minutes of research into the pod dev of blocknet, that was public for 5 months beforehand, myself and one other revealed the real issues behind that guy. If you don't believe me then ask the original poster regarding that info - leewilson ... so I guess you owe me big time as well. Maybe I have SDC confused entirely with a different coin. Please correct me if I am wrong and I will remove this post. Sorry can't remove the post now! Lol! Enjoy reading your posts...The thread is much more pleasant today! The community is doin a great job! Cheers! I would ask you to remove it but I have no idea what the shit you are rambling about. Are you just throwing shit and seeing what sticks? Are you drunk? Neither nor, did you have something to actually add? Am I right? Am I wrong? I am asking the community and specifically the individuals that were in here running at the mouth those very questions. If you are confused, read into what I am speaking of and it may enlighten you on the subject. If you are unable to follow the questions I directly ask regarding the post that was directed at me then I really have no idea what to tell you. I guess source something ffs. It just looks bad when you talk crap without any information to back it. And POD and blocknet stuff? I think you might be thinking of a different coin man but there was a time when SDC was getting approached by a lot of people for the tech and partnerships and whatnots. But I do remember L&S in xst warning people. I was even there yelling at him to stop which you can see my post history. But when he sees a scam, he goes for the neck. At the time I hedged my sdc risk with xst so that was ANOTHER painful lesson to me (I fell for Cloak's vapor as well). I respect the guy for that though. He doesn't hold punches. I will freely admit that I dumped at 800k 100 crave that I had when I saw the train run out of moon juice. Whoever was pumping was only pushing a couple BTC towards your peak. I had nothing to do with the pump. As previously stated, I just noticed the trend and warned people and played very small amounts in the upswing. I wish I could have reversed the trend earlier, and even tried a couple times, because you guys would have had a steady price to land on or at least it wouldn't have been this bad. But I failed and it went to 800k because someone pumped it with about 1000btc. No one is out to get you Troublesome. The only conspiracy here was the one that was freely admitted during the event sourced below. Again, I am sorry for your losses because I have been there as you can see in my post history from cloak. I am definitely not a "SDC bot" Yaremi. Respect. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997356.msg11046669;topicseen#msg11046669 If I source are you willing to change you tune? I have zero losses regarding this coin. Speaking of L&S, he never exposed anything, that is a fact. If I am wrong then feel free to source it. He has done nothing but jump on coat tails in regards to scam exposure and apparently at some point convinced yourself and others that he was the originator, which he is not. Dude, why wouldn't you post it in the first place if you had anything? I never said he was the originator or anything was his idea because I have no idea who saw it first but a very large number of people saw it which should also hold some weight here. I just know he is fucking awesome at technical breakdowns and followed the disaster as I did and in his posts, I mean look above. He just helped spree888di get their masternode running which someone from the crave community probably should have done. Since I have been around him in slack and bct he has been a good guy. I am getting tired and I am going to bed but you are just making yourself look bad when you don't source what you are talking about man. It's like robbing a bank with a squirt gun saying "It's filled with horrible acid I swear!". And it probably wouldn't benefit anyone anyways similarly to robbing a bank with a squirt gun, everyone just looks at your like you have lost your mind. Take care, I'm out for the night.
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One last question. I got the masternode up and running on my home computer. I have it connected to the internet wirelessly. Will this be a problem? I think I read somewhere it could be. Not sure.
The only issues is if you have a dynamic IP. Since if you have a dynamic IP then you will need to edit you config and change it as your IP changes or setup and use TOR.
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One last question. I got the masternode up and running on my home computer. I have it connected to the internet wirelessly. Will this be a problem? I think I read somewhere it could be. Not sure.
Can't wait for the update
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But I do remember L&S in xst warning people. I was even there yelling at him to stop which you can see my post history. But when he sees a scam, he goes for the neck. At the time I hedged my sdc risk with xst so that was ANOTHER painful lesson to me (I fell for Cloak's vapor as well). I respect the guy for that though. He doesn't hold punches. I will freely admit that I dumped at 800k 100 crave that I had when I saw the train run out of moon juice. Whoever was pumping was only pushing a couple BTC towards your peak. I had nothing to do with the pump. As previously stated, I just noticed the trend and warned people and played very small amounts in the upswing. I wish I could have reversed the trend earlier, and even tried a couple times, because you guys would have had a steady price to land on or at least it wouldn't have been this bad. But I failed and it went to 800k because someone pumped it with about 1000btc. No one is out to get you Troublesome. The only conspiracy here was the one that was freely admitted during the event sourced below. Again, I am sorry for your losses because I have been there as you can see in my post history from cloak. I am definitely not a "SDC bot" Yaremi. Respect. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997356.msg11046669;topicseen#msg11046669 If you lost money on any coin "exposed" by longandshort, you lost money because a pump team dumped their coin at about the same time he was fudding. Fud happens all the time in these threads as you will see. It's coincidence when the pump team dumps as a fud team trolls, except when they are one in the same. SDC advertised vaporware at the same time as XST, XC, and half a dozen other coins advertised vapor ware. And did any of them deliver anything new? No. Don't give credit here. Longandshort has an agenda and it's definitely not about saving the little guy. He's usually fudding during a dump because he's usually fudding and every coin gets dumped, even SDC.
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<snipped> You realise if you keep that crap up you are asking for trouble.. Just a warning, its what messed you tards up last time! Best to be quiet as a mouse child, take it or leave it its good, free advice. Someone taking offense to a curtain being pulled back? What seems to be the problem now? And the threats are great. What trouble might that be? I hope you are not speaking of physical harm. You might as well get your them all out now or are you withholding information for later destructive use? Seems a bit ironic because you are here to help. And the statement, "its what messed you tards up last time!" is very damning. It is actually an admission of guilt. So now that we know you were either involved with and/or behind the attack what are your actual intentions here. This is really not looking good for you. Go ahead and let us in on the skinny. You might have noticed that this thread is not moderated which I am sure is a surprise to you and might make you a little nervous, but I assure you it is ok to let us in on your secrets and threats towards us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZeDFwTcnCc@Troublesome96 LongAndShort has a proven track record of exposing scams. I said at first that he's a "class act". I forgot to mention that his tenacity, gift with language but mostly his expert dev skills make him a fearsome enemy; the "Mack the Knife" of BCT. I discovered this the hard way when he took a machete to stealthcoin. As I mentioned earlier I owe him for this, and whilst it was hard for me to admit at the time he was right I was strong enough to admit he was. If LongAndShort has "caught the scent" it may already be too late. I have witnessed him almost single-handedly bring down an entire (scam)coin. If there is anything scammy happening here I would take his advise seriously and not "ask for trouble" by trolling The Shadow Project. TY. Didn't 00Smurf actually release those chat logs? or am I confused with another coin? I don't think a machete was required after that. "Gift with language"? When he first posted here he *drops mic* (wannabe rapper i guess) and apparently it landed square in your mouth. "caught the scent"/tenacity - sounds more like dry labbing to me actually having hard proven facts of what either a dev posted regarding tech or numbers or other incriminating evidence is another issue entirely. Was prometheus not a heavy investor of SDC? I thought he said he was going to dump it at one time during the whole blocknet fiasco. You owe L&S for his help regarding giving you info on stealth? I guess you were not following it unfold yourself on the forums. I do not remember him at all on the thread where we were pulling back the curtain. After a few minutes of research into the pod dev of blocknet, that was public for 5 months beforehand, myself and one other revealed the real issues behind that guy. If you don't believe me then ask the original poster regarding that info - leewilson ... so I guess you owe me big time as well. Maybe I have SDC confused entirely with a different coin. Please correct me if I am wrong and I will remove this post. Make a thread you stupid stupid clown. Offtopic..again! You miss everything because you are always 40 pages behind the rest of us. I am all caught up now. Thanks for showing up. I assume by your unwillingness to answer any of the questions then that speaks for itself. If this is the case, this is really not good for you. You, also, never replied to me regarding my questions here in the thread. Maybe you are behind or dodging as usual. I only have a few questions (especially now that I know what you have done and who you are) to finalize my psych eval. Did you enjoy inflicting pain on smaller animals when you were a child? Do you exhibit that same behavior today? I would appreciate if you actually go back and answer my previous questions. Otherwise my evaluation will be somewhat general. I understand of you do not want to answer now because any answer you give will not improve the prognosis just potentially get it more narrowed down. You are a blubbering idiot asking offtopic questions thats why i'm not answering shit you fool! geeze you people are legit certifiable. Half the time i don't know where to start because you are so far off its just getting sad now. go make a thread is the concept that difficult to grasp. You want me out of the thread yet all you do is keep engaging me in offtopic nonsense!!! Again make a thread you silly little man! You are not talking about off topic are you? Are you aware of anyone else other than yourself posting under your name here in the last ~48hrs? Of course you are not answering. Shall I begin sourcing because they will be posted here and in your moderated thread. It would seem simple enough to say I am wrong, but because you have not then you just admitted I am right. With that being the case, you have effectively just shat where you eat. Not good. I recommend you take a hike, but in all honesty the damage has been done. And the dev here is incompetent according to you. I am just asking for proof instead of you drylabbing anything that is new so you get a 50/50 chance of being right and then hide when you are wrong. Then make a thread you stupid clown geeze. Are really this dumb or are you trolling. I've asked you to droppit like three times in this thread now because you are offtopic. But you think you have a one up on me because i wont engage in your stupidity in this thread other then to tell you to stop posting offtopic bullshit. Do it again and ill report your posts as offtopic because thats what they are. Only people draging this shit on now is you two twits hyperjacked and you... Are you really this god damn stupid or am i in a nightmare! Honestly i have nothing to hide i have done nothing wrong and you liars are completely wrong about me trolling here or anywhere. You are just in the wrong thread asking the wrong questions its a simple as that.
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<snipped> You realise if you keep that crap up you are asking for trouble.. Just a warning, its what messed you tards up last time! Best to be quiet as a mouse child, take it or leave it its good, free advice. Someone taking offense to a curtain being pulled back? What seems to be the problem now? And the threats are great. What trouble might that be? I hope you are not speaking of physical harm. You might as well get your them all out now or are you withholding information for later destructive use? Seems a bit ironic because you are here to help. And the statement, "its what messed you tards up last time!" is very damning. It is actually an admission of guilt. So now that we know you were either involved with and/or behind the attack what are your actual intentions here. This is really not looking good for you. Go ahead and let us in on the skinny. You might have noticed that this thread is not moderated which I am sure is a surprise to you and might make you a little nervous, but I assure you it is ok to let us in on your secrets and threats towards us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZeDFwTcnCc@Troublesome96 LongAndShort has a proven track record of exposing scams. I said at first that he's a "class act". I forgot to mention that his tenacity, gift with language but mostly his expert dev skills make him a fearsome enemy; the "Mack the Knife" of BCT. I discovered this the hard way when he took a machete to stealthcoin. As I mentioned earlier I owe him for this, and whilst it was hard for me to admit at the time he was right I was strong enough to admit he was. If LongAndShort has "caught the scent" it may already be too late. I have witnessed him almost single-handedly bring down an entire (scam)coin. If there is anything scammy happening here I would take his advise seriously and not "ask for trouble" by trolling The Shadow Project. TY. Didn't 00Smurf actually release those chat logs? or am I confused with another coin? I don't think a machete was required after that. "Gift with language"? When he first posted here he *drops mic* (wannabe rapper i guess) and apparently it landed square in your mouth. "caught the scent"/tenacity - sounds more like dry labbing to me actually having hard proven facts of what either a dev posted regarding tech or numbers or other incriminating evidence is another issue entirely. Was prometheus not a heavy investor of SDC? I thought he said he was going to dump it at one time during the whole blocknet fiasco. You owe L&S for his help regarding giving you info on stealth? I guess you were not following it unfold yourself on the forums. I do not remember him at all on the thread where we were pulling back the curtain. After a few minutes of research into the pod dev of blocknet, that was public for 5 months beforehand, myself and one other revealed the real issues behind that guy. If you don't believe me then ask the original poster regarding that info - leewilson ... so I guess you owe me big time as well. Maybe I have SDC confused entirely with a different coin. Please correct me if I am wrong and I will remove this post. Sorry can't remove the post now! Lol! Enjoy reading your posts...The thread is much more pleasant today! The community is doin a great job! Cheers! I would ask you to remove it but I have no idea what the shit you are rambling about. Are you just throwing shit and seeing what sticks? Are you drunk? Neither nor, did you have something to actually add? Am I right? Am I wrong? I am asking the community and specifically the individuals that were in here running at the mouth those very questions. If you are confused, read into what I am speaking of and it may enlighten you on the subject. If you are unable to follow the questions I directly ask regarding the post that was directed at me then I really have no idea what to tell you. I guess source something ffs. It just looks bad when you talk crap without any information to back it. And POD and blocknet stuff? I think you might be thinking of a different coin man but there was a time when SDC was getting approached by a lot of people for the tech and partnerships and whatnots. But I do remember L&S in xst warning people. I was even there yelling at him to stop which you can see my post history. But when he sees a scam, he goes for the neck. At the time I hedged my sdc risk with xst so that was ANOTHER painful lesson to me (I fell for Cloak's vapor as well). I respect the guy for that though. He doesn't hold punches. I will freely admit that I dumped at 800k 100 crave that I had when I saw the train run out of moon juice. Whoever was pumping was only pushing a couple BTC towards your peak. I had nothing to do with the pump. As previously stated, I just noticed the trend and warned people and played very small amounts in the upswing. I wish I could have reversed the trend earlier, and even tried a couple times, because you guys would have had a steady price to land on or at least it wouldn't have been this bad. But I failed and it went to 800k because someone pumped it with about 1000btc. No one is out to get you Troublesome. The only conspiracy here was the one that was freely admitted during the event sourced below. Again, I am sorry for your losses because I have been there as you can see in my post history from cloak. I am definitely not a "SDC bot" Yaremi. Respect. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997356.msg11046669;topicseen#msg11046669 If I source are you willing to change you tune? I have zero losses regarding this coin. Speaking of L&S, he never exposed anything, that is a fact. If I am wrong then feel free to source it. He has done nothing but jump on coat tails in regards to scam exposure and apparently at some point convinced yourself and others that he was the originator, which he is not. Its ride coatails, and i have nothing to prove to you in this thread. You are clutching at straws and are severely misinformed and wrong about your conclusions of me so go and open a thread instead of cluttering this one with you dribble. Please take this convo to a thread you make and i will gladly make a complete tossa fool of you there. Your comeback is that I made a grammatical mistake. You might want to take the next few months to clean up your own posts. And it is actually coattails. I put a space...you left out a letter. mmmmk? And what exactly is tossa? Misinformed? I am not going off of hearsay here, I am talking about actual posts and personally being involved with the scam exposure that you are trying to ride the coattails of while appearing to be a fully complicit actor. You have already admitted being complicit to the actions that occurred here.
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April 13, 2015, 03:55:53 AM |
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One last question. I got the masternode up and running on my home computer. I have it connected to the internet wirelessly. Will this be a problem? I think I read somewhere it could be. Not sure.
The only issues is if you have a dynamic IP. Since if you have a dynamic IP then you will need to edit you config and change it as your IP changes or setup and use TOR. How do I find out if I have a dynamic IP? I don't think I can get TOR up and running, I've looked at that process and I might as well learn a new language too.
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Your comeback is that I made a grammatical mistake. You might want to take the next few months to clean up your own posts. And it is actually coattails. I put a space...you left out a letter. mmmmk?
When they are down to scrutinizing your spelling, you know they have ran out of juice.
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One last question. I got the masternode up and running on my home computer. I have it connected to the internet wirelessly. Will this be a problem? I think I read somewhere it could be. Not sure.
The only issues is if you have a dynamic IP. Since if you have a dynamic IP then you will need to edit you config and change it as your IP changes or setup and use TOR. How do I find out if I have a dynamic IP? I don't think I can get TOR up and running, I've looked at that process and I might as well learn a new language too. check your ip address, then turn your modem off for a while then switch it back on, then check ip address again to see if its the same.
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But I do remember L&S in xst warning people. I was even there yelling at him to stop which you can see my post history. But when he sees a scam, he goes for the neck. At the time I hedged my sdc risk with xst so that was ANOTHER painful lesson to me (I fell for Cloak's vapor as well). I respect the guy for that though. He doesn't hold punches. I will freely admit that I dumped at 800k 100 crave that I had when I saw the train run out of moon juice. Whoever was pumping was only pushing a couple BTC towards your peak. I had nothing to do with the pump. As previously stated, I just noticed the trend and warned people and played very small amounts in the upswing. I wish I could have reversed the trend earlier, and even tried a couple times, because you guys would have had a steady price to land on or at least it wouldn't have been this bad. But I failed and it went to 800k because someone pumped it with about 1000btc. No one is out to get you Troublesome. The only conspiracy here was the one that was freely admitted during the event sourced below. Again, I am sorry for your losses because I have been there as you can see in my post history from cloak. I am definitely not a "SDC bot" Yaremi. Respect. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997356.msg11046669;topicseen#msg11046669 If you lost money on any coin "exposed" by longandshort, you lost money because a pump team dumped their coin at about the same time he was fudding. Fud happens all the time in these threads as you will see. It's coincidence when the pump team dumps as a fud team trolls, except when they are one in the same. SDC advertised vaporware at the same time as XST, XC, and half a dozen other coins advertised vapor ware. And did any of them deliver anything new? No. Don't give credit here. Longandshort has an agenda and it's definitely not about saving the little guy. He's usually fudding during a dump because he's usually fudding and every coin gets dumped, even SDC. In my experience pump teams sound the alarm when they have run out of moon juice or someone else outs the pattern and people start listening. SDC did deliver but xst and xc did not to my knowledge. I think saying L&S has an agenda is speculation. But I hear ya. But think about this, how many people in this forum have his abilities and would have the balls to speak up if they saw something? IMO not many.
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But I do remember L&S in xst warning people. I was even there yelling at him to stop which you can see my post history. But when he sees a scam, he goes for the neck. At the time I hedged my sdc risk with xst so that was ANOTHER painful lesson to me (I fell for Cloak's vapor as well). I respect the guy for that though. He doesn't hold punches. I will freely admit that I dumped at 800k 100 crave that I had when I saw the train run out of moon juice. Whoever was pumping was only pushing a couple BTC towards your peak. I had nothing to do with the pump. As previously stated, I just noticed the trend and warned people and played very small amounts in the upswing. I wish I could have reversed the trend earlier, and even tried a couple times, because you guys would have had a steady price to land on or at least it wouldn't have been this bad. But I failed and it went to 800k because someone pumped it with about 1000btc. No one is out to get you Troublesome. The only conspiracy here was the one that was freely admitted during the event sourced below. Again, I am sorry for your losses because I have been there as you can see in my post history from cloak. I am definitely not a "SDC bot" Yaremi. Respect. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997356.msg11046669;topicseen#msg11046669 If you lost money on any coin "exposed" by longandshort, you lost money because a pump team dumped their coin at about the same time he was fudding. Fud happens all the time in these threads as you will see. It's coincidence when the pump team dumps as a fud team trolls, except when they are one in the same. SDC advertised vaporware at the same time as XST, XC, and half a dozen other coins advertised vapor ware. And did any of them deliver anything new? No. Don't give credit here. Longandshort has an agenda and it's definitely not about saving the little guy. He's usually fudding during a dump because he's usually fudding and every coin gets dumped, even SDC. lies lies lies what part of offtopic is it that you retards don't understand.
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lies lies lies what part of offtopic is it that you retards don't understand.
Posting that something is offtopic is offtopic. Your turn.
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goblynn
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April 13, 2015, 04:04:25 AM |
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wow you guys are just talking yourself in circles....we get it.....you guys want to argue about nothing..how about you all go play a video game and relax for a bit and come back happy
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tokyoghetto
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April 13, 2015, 04:04:53 AM |
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its hard to discuss CRAVE in this thread.
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tx42
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April 13, 2015, 04:05:06 AM |
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wow you guys are just talking yourself in circles....we get it.....you guys want to argue about nothing..how about you all go play a video game and relax for a bit and come back happy
No dude, everyone posting has an agenda. Even me. Please remember that.
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tx42
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April 13, 2015, 04:06:24 AM |
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its hard to discuss CRAVE in this thread.
It's a meta-convo. We are discussing the discussion of a discussion about crave.
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industrialcoinmagic (OP)
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April 13, 2015, 04:14:19 AM |
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I'm taking a little break and watching a movie, keeping up with the nonsense here is just draining Adrenaline Surge update and APK update when I have refreshed my head and can think straight.
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tx42
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April 13, 2015, 04:17:29 AM |
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I'm taking a little break and watching a movie, keeping up with the nonsense here is just draining Adrenaline Surge update and APK update when I have refreshed my head and can think straight. You actually read this drivel?
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Hyperjacked
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It's all mathematics...!
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April 13, 2015, 04:20:57 AM |
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Attention LNS Please do not address me again...I have deleted some posts that you have found offensive and tried too make amends all day long...any objective poster can see that I am not a liar as you claim. Not sure what you true agenda is but it does not concern me! If I offended I apologize for the third time... Please lets move on! Cheers and best wishes with your project
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Troublesome96
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April 13, 2015, 04:21:19 AM |
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Your comeback is that I made a grammatical mistake. You might want to take the next few months to clean up your own posts. And it is actually coattails. I put a space...you left out a letter. mmmmk?
When they are down to scrutinizing your spelling, you know they have ran out of juice. This seems to be their direction in general. Thank you for actually noticing.
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