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Question: How long till Vod gets removed from the trust list?  (Voting closed: April 01, 2015, 06:17:55 AM)
Literally minutes after this post - 2 (5.9%)
Literally hours after this post - 2 (5.9%)
A day or two after this post - 0 (0%)
Less than a week after this post - 2 (5.9%)
More than a week - 1 (2.9%)
He won't be removed and leave the unjustified negative trust ratings there (Admins must really like him) - 17 (50%)
He will stay in default trust but remove the unjustified negative trust ratings - 10 (29.4%)
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March 22, 2015, 06:17:55 AM
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So apparently Vod is a Microsoft Shill. He's also in the default trust currently, while I'm posting this.

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March 22, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
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You're pulling our legs right? I don't think there is one day I don't see a thread about Vod, but this is the first time i've seen a semi-established member post about him and hasn't received neg trust from him.
So it leads to my question, what made you come to the conclusion Vod is a Microsoft shill, and what is your problem with him?

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March 22, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
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Vod shouldn't be removed from the default trust list. If you make a decent polite appeal he would most likely take it into account.
He does his job well by marking scammers here. He hasn't marked you with anything,why are you complaining? What's wrong with being a "MicroSoft shill"?What have they done to you? There were a few members removed from the default trust list recently namely redsn0w and bitpop.

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March 22, 2015, 04:58:03 PM
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He should be removed. I asked him politely, tried explaining the situation but he is one stubborn chap which is part commendable.
But the sad part is he probably won't be removed because of his "high" status in the forums and the supposed "scam-buster" some people call him.

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March 23, 2015, 04:27:47 AM
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My comeback was mandatory, here we go again. Smiley


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March 23, 2015, 05:58:30 AM
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Huh
Another Vod-bashing thread...however, this time wasn't started in Meta!  Grin

A few other threads over Vod angering people because of -ve trust feedbacks, thanks to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2:

===>>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329358.0
===>>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300506.0
===>>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475995.0
===>>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704391.0

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March 23, 2015, 09:02:03 AM
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Yippiee I started an uprising?  Roll Eyes
Anyhow on a serious note it is very hard to imagine that admins will take any action against him because somehow he is a "scam-buster"

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March 23, 2015, 09:04:32 AM
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"He won't be removed and leave the unjustified negative trust ratings there (Admins must really like him)"  indeed he will never be removed from the default trust list. (most dangerous)
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March 23, 2015, 09:09:03 AM
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"He won't be removed and leave the unjustified negative trust ratings there (Admins must really like him)"  indeed he will never be removed from the default trust list. (most dangerous)

After reading all those threads of "I hate Vod" especially the MSDN thing that just happened, I guess I'll have to change my mind with Vod.

He should be removed, or notified by a moderator that he should modify his trust.

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March 23, 2015, 09:14:16 AM
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"He won't be removed and leave the unjustified negative trust ratings there (Admins must really like him)"  indeed he will never be removed from the default trust list. (most dangerous)

After reading all those threads of "I hate Vod" especially the MSDN thing that just happened, I guess I'll have to change my mind with Vod.

He should be removed, or notified by a moderator that he should modify his trust.

I read somewhere that the trust system is not moderated, but now I guess some changes have to be made, because someone just crossed 'its' limits.

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March 23, 2015, 09:28:46 AM
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"He won't be removed and leave the unjustified negative trust ratings there (Admins must really like him)"  indeed he will never be removed from the default trust list. (most dangerous)

After reading all those threads of "I hate Vod" especially the MSDN thing that just happened, I guess I'll have to change my mind with Vod.

He should be removed, or notified by a moderator that he should modify his trust.

I read somewhere that the trust system is not moderated, but now I guess some changes have to be made, because someone just crossed 'its' limits.

If one disagree with another one's actions or is abusing the trust system, and that guy is in the default trust list, he can simply put a tilde before one's name to get rid of a guy from the default trust list.

And that's what happened with CITM.

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March 23, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
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"He won't be removed and leave the unjustified negative trust ratings there (Admins must really like him)"  indeed he will never be removed from the default trust list. (most dangerous)

After reading all those threads of "I hate Vod" especially the MSDN thing that just happened, I guess I'll have to change my mind with Vod.

He should be removed, or notified by a moderator that he should modify his trust.

I read somewhere that the trust system is not moderated, but now I guess some changes have to be made, because someone just crossed 'its' limits.

If one disagree with another one's actions or is abusing the trust system, and that guy is in the default trust list, he can simply put a tilde before one's name to get rid of a guy from the default trust list.

And that's what happened with CITM.

The only thing is that the seller's business is affected by this Vod thing.

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March 23, 2015, 05:01:43 PM
Last edit: March 23, 2015, 06:32:19 PM by Vod
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He should be removed. I asked him politely, tried explaining the situation but he is one stubborn chap which is part commendable.

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March 26, 2015, 05:46:03 PM
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He should be removed. I asked him politely, tried explaining the situation but he is one stubborn chap which is part commendable.

Yeah, you called me a cunt and said you would rape my mother.   Roll Eyes
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March 26, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
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He should be removed. I asked him politely, tried explaining the situation but he is one stubborn chap which is part commendable.

Yeah, you called me a cunt and said you would rape my mother.   Roll Eyes

I'll bet Vod wishes he had a single satoshi for every time someone said that or something similar. Hell if I had a satoshi for everytime I have read about someone being butthurt over neg trust he has left (often deservingly) I would have a nice little savings account.


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March 27, 2015, 05:16:55 PM
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You forgot this one too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0
In this case he left negative trust... for pointing out he abuses the trust...

The staff here protect him for some reason, because the rules seem to mater for everyone else - except Vod

Every time he breaks the rules some brown noser says something like "he learned his lesson" or "give him another chance" even though he has done this over and over and over again, demonstrating his complete disregard for the rules he so willfully runs around destroying other people's work and reputations over.

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March 27, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
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Vod is a Microsoft Shill works for Microsoft.

Why is that a problem?

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March 27, 2015, 05:59:29 PM
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Vod is a Microsoft Shill works for Microsoft.

Why is that a problem?
He has given negative trust to a number of people who are selling MSDN keys to Microsoft products at highly discounted prices which is financially harmful to Microsoft.
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March 27, 2015, 07:22:31 PM
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From what I hear, VOD is giving negative feedback to users who are selling illegally obtained MICROSOFT keys . What is illegal is illegal and even if the person is selling these illegal keys without scamming the buyers, he/she is still doing wrong as it's a crime. If VOD was giving false/irrelevant feedback, then probably he could be removed but for genuine feedback, there isn't any reason to remove him.

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March 27, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
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You forgot this one too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0
In this case he left negative trust... for pointing out he abuses the trust...

The staff here protect him for some reason, because the rules seem to mater for everyone else - except Vod

Every time he breaks the rules some brown noser says something like "he learned his lesson" or "give him another chance" even though he has done this over and over and over again, demonstrating his complete disregard for the rules he so willfully runs around destroying other people's work and reputations over.

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You mean Tomatocage seems to protect him for some reason. Tomatocage is the only one who can remove Vod, unless Theymos removes Tomatocage from depth 1. With that minor exception that is pretty unlikely to happen, unless Tomatocage messes up majorly. Staff aren't involved, they don't even make up the majority of the default trust list. We can't send a pm saying, "Hey buddy, remove/keep Vod or else" regardless of whether each individual staff member agrees that Vod is default trustworthy.

A lot of your points have to do with Staff interference in the trust system, Staff have no say on the default trust system unless its their own branch. For example last night when I saw the BayAreaCoins thread, I watched it, and was waiting to see how he responded. I agreed that it was abuse, and if he could not see what was wrong with the negative feedback that he had left, I would have removed him from my list as well. Badbear, dserrano5, Hostfat, or myself cannot tell anyone else how to moderate their trust list, no one on the default trust list can. Hypothetically speaking Theymos could, but Canaryinthemine is the only case of anyone from depth level 1 being removed, and that was because Canary was not attentive enough to their trust list.

Vod is still on the default trust list under Tomatocage because Tomatocage believes that Vod is more of an asset than a liability.
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