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A lot of us seniors of the bitcointalk community have made a decent amount of bitcoin over our time here. By way of selling goods, trading altcoins etc. My thoughts are for some of the powerplayers to come together and create a new altcoin that makes some real profit for all of us involved and also for the rest of the community, I want this coin to leave all the others in the dust. I want this coin to be cutting edge and provide great features to the crypto ecosystem and be a real competitor in the space.

To be involved in this project you have to have some seniority in the bitcointalk community (or bitcoin community in general) and you need to have 5 bitcoins to put towards the project to show your serious (These terms may be able to be waived if you have some other extremely useful skill) . Note* I will not be controlling other group members bitcoins so you don't need to have any fear in me scamming you.

So what do you say? Legends of bitcointalk we may have had arguments with each other before but this right here is our chance to really make it big to make more profit then we have ever had before.

Some people say the glory days of altcoins are over, I say they've just begun. Leave a reply and message me if you're interested.

 ??? with motives like this kinda defeats the whole purpose of geniune alt currency creation  ::)

It could be really interesting if it isn´t a clone of rest even of BTC. But I dont see any powerfull reason to Legends want do it, They must have his own safe investments.

Why is making money shunned upon so much? Just because we'll be making money doesn't make our efforts any less genuine.

because alts created to make the devs money are the very definition of a scamcoin, again whats the point in being an alterative to the greedy banker controlled fiat, if we ourselves become the greedy bankers, but thats lost on alot of people around this place.

I don't think you understand what a scam is. We are in know way stealing anything we are just providing a service and profiting off of it.

Profits should be made because of innovation and features, not 15 seconds of DOGE fame or some Garza-like stunt. Focus on substance, not the end game.

while certainly there are win win scenerios in many comercial endeavours, creating crypto currencies (as suggested) certainly aint one of them ie here in order for you to make profit someone has to make a loss, so you are basically suggesting legendary members use their status create a coin to profit of newbies.

you can go on,and on with a defensive arguement, now, any way you like,use whatever semantics you like, but its the underlining truth to your OP.

So you're saying this is a scam coin because some people could make a profit and other people could make a loss? The same thing is true for literally every other coin and every stock on the stock market.

for every coins todate 99.9% of the time mostly yes (up until this point in time), for stock market many many win win situations with profit making commercial ventures so no not true in that case.


but tis all irrelevent, you can argue all day long but you stated your motives crystal clear in the OP.

Yes I said I wanted to make money and no were have I denied that since. Why are you trying to make it look like I'm trying to cover up that making money is a motive?

A coin like this already exists.  Bitshares doesn't try to hide that it's in it for profit, or to create some kind of business model, however you want to look at it.  Whether you believe the development has created qualities that will succeed or not is up to your judgement.  Personally, I can't keep up with either Darkcoin or Bitshares development because it seems like there's some kind of drastic change every week.

i agree you haven't denied or tried to cover up that your motive is to make money (funny here is one place that can be used both literally and figuratively)

man, you got some serious identity issues bro!! aren't you a day trader ... what a fucking joke ...

you're like one of those sexually confused guys who can be literally sucking a strangers cock in a public toilet at 10pm, then goes 'poofter bashing' at midnight.

you're here trading cryptos to make 'honest' money without scamming anyone, right? so why go hating on another guy who might be doing the same?

it could be good idea depends on who is in "legendry" team.

Issue is that once altcoin reaches certain amount people start getting greedy and doing it online with other people can come bite you in the ass. If you want to create an altcoin do it with people who live around you so you can have face to face chat and monitor each other to make sure other person don't get greedy.

strong username to post content. made me spit my coffee the moment I looked at your username

there's guys actually like that? guess you and i hang in different circles ;)

seriously though you do know how modern currency get their price (and without they'd have no value)?

i can say (with all consistency) that i've never made a cent of fiat out of my crypto trading. nore any fiat out of my crypto testing and development.

Leaving out profit that it can generate to investors,I consider that the legends have a "prestige" won and respect. Coin could be a succesfull or in the case opposite only fail. You can imagine if someone decide launch same but on newbie version but with very good improvements and take a better place that it coin, It could be shamefull, In addition there are very  good  projects with years ahead with excellents devs working each day.
If you are really convinced you could do this trust, Announcing an roadmap at least, Or at least you could speak about how many BTC you need at least to begin to do something really out of the ordinary like to BTC for example.

I see all this talk about legends, but all I see here are heroes.

 8) :D

hero's are only 100 or so spam away from being legends  ;)

I see OP joined bitcointalk last February.

What is your definition of "legends"?

leg·end
ˈlejənd/

an extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field.
"the man was a living legend"

Why not get together and support one existing legit project...?  I was gonna say Cannabiscoin...  The Cannabis industry is gonna be big.  But the people behind Cannabiscoin are going through a little bump right now.  Maybe next year.

1.  TALK is the bitcointalk coin and has been around for 16 months.  Any legends wanting to talk the time to download it can have a fistfull (from me).  Heros can have some too.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994.0)

2.  Cannabiscoins are in talks towards getting together and support one project.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874423.0

3.  If CON wants to focus on the extremely famous and/or notorious persons of BCT, I support that idea.  It looks like there is a growing team of talent actively working on CON.  

I think whatever you choose to do, it would be better to just get involved in a current Coin rather than starting a new one or to do a project that can benefit current Coins and create profit as a result.

Just a bit of information, if you want to get listed on Bittrex, they want you to pay them 3 BTC, Block explorers generally cost 0.2 BTC and then hosting of nodes and mining (if POW), and then advertising, paying for developers and then the whole question of how it will be able to create profit after the initial pump.

I would really like that to have the more famous and/or notorious people to help me with working and shaping CON. I do not want to have it where people assume that it is my Coin because that would ultimately hinder it's progress, it only tends to be that way because I put so much work into leading it. I want people to throw down ideas and help make it great because the people that hold it and have been involved are the already the most upstanding people in Crypto. Any information you guys might want I can provide if you think it might help facilitate the process.

I liked coinssources Dev recognition http://www.coinssource.com/coins-source-introduces-proof-honor-poh-nominate-vote-win/  (http://www.coinssource.com/coins-source-introduces-proof-honor-poh-nominate-vote-win/)  Proof of Honor was an excellent program.

The next phase of Bitcoin is SideChaining, secure public one-to-one sprocket to bitcoin.  Currently, a new pegged coin would require a central coin holder to distribute as people peg their alts to BTC.  The problem lies in creating new coins without centralization.  Best solution I can come up with is creating instance of a new coin each time you peg to BTC, and weaving these instances around our individual alt coins.

If we can create a group on GIT, starting with a hackcoin SHA256 (Bitminers) and all agree on the leading integer not related to our coins, we could make a hell of an adapter for BTC with AltCoins.

Monero is  an awesome brand.  How do we create a mechanical connection with MONERO and BTC?  We all agree BTC is what we are measured against.  If we were successful in using our blockchains to "Gear-Up" to BTC, we potentially will bring depth to BTC, and reduce its load.  Our individual efforts will still be rewarded by offering more services by our brand.

The idea is not to create a new coin, but a coin to bridge all coins mechanically.

I think one of the things holding back so many long-termers getting together is the fact that all the ones really capable are already working on different Coins and do not want to abandon their own projects or create new projects in which would further dilute the investment base.

I really liked the Proof of Honor program myself, I had nominated Kingscrown from Exclusivecoin but voted for Sunny King (creator of Proof of Stake). What I didn't like about it was that you only had one choice, I would have liked to have been able to vote for more than one person.

^^^ This and also probably that there are enough coins already. Let's start making some of the good ones great, and quit making new coins.


Hi Friend! :D

i think they already releasing scam coins daily anyways

What if the coin could only be mined one-to-one with a BTC ??  Problem with these new AltCoins is they are backed by a promise and very little asset.

Yes and this is a good example because you have been working of Goldcoin for ages but not about to just abandon all the people that rely on you for a new Coin and creating many new Coins becomes a negative aspect. We can take iGotSpots for example in that he's made nearly a dozen different Coins and recently has come under fire for all the abandoned Coins and mergers.

I would like to work together with more people, there are lots of great people around the forums so how could that be achieved without creating new Coins and further diluting the total investment base?

NameCoin is already merge mined one-to-one with BTC.

Im just typing out loud here, nothing promised but just a side chain discussion.  Imagine ZZZ coin without any means of PoW or PoS.  The only way ZZZ coin is rewarded is with a peg to BTC, and the only way to release the BTC peg is the destruction of the ZZZ coin.  Miners receive the Fees.

You can already do that with Coinprism and create colored Coins or is what you are talking about significantly different? I think Blackcoin already has something similar with Bithalo and that works through bitmessage where you would create a redeemscript through BTC.

I've been thinking about how one would create a type of android app in which your wallet would connect through SSH and passwordless login (recent QR type cryptography) to connect to where you are hosting from. The same could be done for all types of OS so you can connect with your entire basket of Coins and rely more on Linux which is the easiest to build for.

I use DYN with a certificate on my cellphone.  I am all for making the basket where all coins, and future coins have the same chance at spending.  I think CoinPrism is a great idea, I am Late Again!  Colored coins would make perfect sidechains with very little coding.

I have a 'new' coin, less than one month, 2BACCO Coin,

it is backed by smokers who want to buy cigarettes with 2bacco coins.


Real money backing is what many of the coins lack, but 2bacco coin already has some of that,

but 2bacco coin offers smokers the opportunity to speculate by investing into 2bacco coins,

and smokers can also buy cigarettes online with 2bacco coins.


Non-smokers are also welcome to invest into 2bacco coins, and use 2bacco coins for purchases
other than cigarettes, if they chose.
In fact, that is a way of trying to be friendly to smokers,
we should all try to make friends I think.



The concept of working with other people as a group to launch a coin, does interest me,
I'm not a legendary member though, I will be watching this thread to see if everyone can come up with something or not. One of the shortcomings of almost all of the coins, is that opportunities are given to miners, whereas the investors or traders who do not mine coins, are left to buy the coins at often inflated prices, so why should investors or traders who didn't mine the coin, even buy the coin in the first place? Ok, well, 2bacco coin is different, because smokers do buy cigarettes, and will continue to buy cigarettes.




I am not spamming, I am trying to show you that 2bacco coin is backed by real money from smokers who are already spending money on cigarettes all the time anyways, but it is just a matter of smokers redirecting their money into/through 2bacco coin, and then smokers get the extra excitement of investing into a speculative crypto coin, The Smoker Friendly Coin, and possibly earning increase from their investment, while at the same time supporting the concepts of how to be friendly to smokers.

Just curious as to how being here just a little over a year makes you a "Senior".


~BCX~

+1
TALK is a hidden gem, good distro story without any BS. Much better to support a coin like TALK than boot up another worthless alt

IMHO, everyone here has a coin, and no-one wants to start a new one.  We could all create something for crypto eco.  Something that Benefits all AltCoins.

Making a coin for the sake of it doesn't seem like a great idea; a coin must have a purpose... Having said that I have a bunch of ideas and a lot of enthusiasm for trustless, decentralised models.

agree with microguy on this, there's a ton of older established coins with honest hard working devs and good but small communities around them, if we concentrate our efforts on these instead of just pumping out new coins, the community as a whole would be better off.


seriously the crypto community has its share of problems, but lack of coins certainly ain't one of them, so lets concentrate our efforts on problems we have.

Yeah that's what I was mentioning about a type of secure gateway. I have an idea for a wallet where it isn't so much a wallet by connects securely to the Blockchains you host so you can send, receive and view your Coins remotely. Lets say you have an Android phone and want to have all your wallets and have your Coins Stake, the only way to really do that is if you are holding the entire chain but if you can just connect to where you do have it hosted then you aren't using the resources so you could remotely send, receive and use many different Coins not just one.

We could create a front end to an RPi with BTC, then program in exchanges for universal coin access.  Some type of HTML5 so it works on all devices.  Not sure how to teach the Novice User dynamic dns and certificates.  Is there a plug and play option for the networking?

That seems like it would be a bit too complicated, if it's to be used then it would need to be all put together as one script and easy to understand for the very non-tech people.

For instance, last year I was given an autosend program for windows that was made by the guy that was did the swap for ADT. This program works with any Coin in that it hooks into the RPC so you would just have a wallet running and can autosend to addresses with whatever amounts and intervals you want. The program itself never needs to be updated, just uses info from the .conf file and works with any Coin.

http://s10.postimg.org/6rou1dl21/adtautosend.png

What would you have for ideas for creating some types of similar tools with expanded sets?

I think we are on the right track, do you have a GIT we can work from?

I'll need a few days atleast because I have backend stuff I need to work on first for paycon. That is only an example of the kind of idea I'm going for and probably the best kind of thing multiple people can work on rather than to go for coin specific kind of stuff.

If OP wants to do a Coin with people, should just get together with some friends and come up with a plan and hardfork or additions to an existing Coin.

Not going to lie, I'd many entrepreneurs from BCT got together to create their own altcoin, I would certainly hop on and invest in it.

Spam thread

He is only in it for the addnodes. :P

there was already to much "community driven" coins

We definitely need a SpoetnikCoin

This is such a great idea that it's already being done:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg8737736#msg8737736

Those that complain are the ones that can't do it themselves, either come up with some ideas and add intelligently to the discussion or don't bother contributing at all. Half the battle is tact and working positively with solutions, not trying to slander everything and everyone.


Which is probably part of your baseless claims you continually make based on no evidence, and there is a lot of these kinds of posts since you followed me around for an entire year claiming I was muddafudda.

So let's get back on topic and come up with ideas that can benefit everyone?

i dont think so that many people have ever created a coin. I think 80% of the cryptos are made by the same 10 person. IMO

It could be distributed initially how POM "Proof of Member".

What about a trustless, decentralised ripple for altcoins?

Stop reading my mind ! :P

mudderfudder is at least one of those 10. lmao .. lest we forget his candygirls .. ROLF

Possibly would be to work together to create a ledger type system that could be implemented into current Coins.

The thing here is that people do not want more Coins so the options can be that if a group of people wanted, they could takeover a current dead Coin which would reward a number of current investors, collaborate around some current and running Coin/s, or work on things or projects that can universally benefit many Coins.

Personally, I'd like to see a true proof of burn consensus, where participants compete for transaction fees (and, or block reward) by bidding stake - the highest bid wins, and all bids are either burned (as in POW) or are also awarded to the winner. This is basically analogous to POW, except that the cost is not in computation, but currency which means you can have a much faster consensus.

How so if the Stake is burned or rewarded to the winner? I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean here.

I think for a type of ledger system it would have a reduction of money supply but multiple chains being created with new Genesis Blocks with snapshots of the old chain. I envision something similar to how Clams distribution was handled but rolling over into new chains. Is that what you mean?

Edit: How do you suppose you would handle both types of Fees in different Coins that it could be more universal? In Coins there is both destruction of Fees and addition of Fees to the next Block.

hahahahaha.  that is sooooo true.

this thread should be called "heros" thread

we don't really need another coin too.

it would be better if more coins merged their resources actually.

The first is a very good question - if the bidding is done in local currency, it cannot be via transactions (since they'd need consensus themselves) but some other method. I'm open to ideas on this.

Not quite sure what you're asking in the 2nd question. For coin distribution, you could either have share-drop on bitcoin, ICO, or separate the block reward out of the main consensus and have it (the block reward only) be POW based.

Well I was thinking something along the lines of a type of ledger system within current Coins (and could be adapted within Bitcoin) in which at regular intervals a snapshot of the chain is taken and parsed into a new genesis Block with all current balances and the old data is trimmed off. Were you thinking of something different?

Can you explain this a little more detailed.I don't see the point.

Ahhh, for the burning part? That's certainly one way of handling POB for external burning... I was thinking about internal currency burning, simply because that breaks the tie with the slow confirmation times of external blockchains.

I'm not really a fan of burning coins itself within a currency where you get a reduction of currency supply in the form of fees being destroyed because it should be where as much of the money supply is as active as possible and to reduce that active supply you would get less strength of the network as people forget about Coins they have or lose keys over time. What I was talking about before is that in different Coins the Fees can either be added to the next Block (like BlackCoin), or are destroyed and reduces the money supply (as in PeerCoin).

I would like to figure out a good way in which there is a type of constant redemption of balances where you reset the Blockchain so the idea is where a snapshot is taken automatically and the balances are parsed into the first Block in the new chain so you don't need the data left over from the old chain so that you could infinitely keep the chain within a certain data size.

Reducing money supply increases scarcity and therefore increases coin value. I'm not sure how reducing active supply decreases the network strength?

In POB the network strength comes from the ongoing cost of block production, just like in POW.

But to decrease money supply and scarcity there is also reduction in volume and trade, exchanges need volume and trade in order to keep Coins listed so if you are losing money on every trade then you won't trade, exchanges have less volume, less distribution of the money supply, less nodes and consensus. IMO Proof of Burn is not as popular as higher inflation because in higher inflation Coins people will sell excess coins for profit and retain most of their Coins once they reach ROI so you get wider and wider distribution over time.

Ok ok.. I'm in.. as long as we call this the HOWaHANDFULofEARLYadoptersANDshitclonersFUCKEDtheCRYPTOmovementCOIN. ;D

Its time to fleece the greedy noobs !

You're assuming that price remains fixed. A reduction in supply tends to increase price - take a look at 42, for instance: 42 total supply, coin value: 3.4 BTC / coin.

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/42_BTC

Inflation reduces the value of coins overall, because it increases supply... In essence what assume is the case is completely backwards from reality :)

There are no functional proof of burn coins that I'm aware of, which is why I'm interested in exploring how it would work.

42 Coins is the total amount of Coins that will ever be produced and it's extremely low coin supply (0.9178677 Coins currently) has the negative effect of making the Coin seem much more expensive than it's worth, the total marketcap for 42 is $902 USD or just over 3 BTC and being POW only it has been dropping in value ever since it was launched. Over the last 6 months it has lost about 25% in value http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/42-coin/

I only remember one Proof of Burn Coin which was launched with such an extreme amount of burn that it was burning about 50% of the Coins in every transaction and then burned down to nothing.

I'm not sure how Proof of Burn can realistically work???

There is

slimcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=613213.0
ÇoinProLite https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=763364.0
levelcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422309.0
Third Generation Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643300.0

and I think KoreCoin utilizes POB as a type of anonyminity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668886.0

ChanceCoin? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528023.0

That is the few I could find on the subject.

This is just another shameless plug for craptsy and one or more of it's inhouse crapclones.

The 42 coin supply is much higher and is unlimited. This was hardcoded and has not been fixed even though this thread claims that it has.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444775.0

I think those are all distributed by burn, not by using burn in the consensus.

POB by consensus is analogous to POW, but instead of electricity being burnt, you are burning currency. Every block costs coins to produce, which immediately fixes all the nothing at stake problems which plague POS. The block reward is what incentivises miners to continually burn their own stake in order to produce blocks, and it has equilibrium at break-even just like POW.

The advantage of using burn instead of POW is that you can burn infinitely fast, meaning block times are not artificially constrained by computational difficulty, leading to faster confirmation.

i was more leaning towards

Bitcoin 2.0: the Quest for More Fiat  ;)

Hio kelsey !

I'd say my idea has a better ring to it... no ? :P

It is a  very long name to any exchange.  ;D  HOWaHANDFULofEARLYadoptersANDshitclonersFUCKEDtheCRYPTOmovementCOIN / BTC   ;D

Block times are more or less irrelevant compared to the amount of data accumulating in the Blockchain, this is my main concern with Cryptonote Coins because the amount of data accrued over a yearly basis is multi-gigabytes so if it can be 10 second or less Block times but the Blockchain grows so quickly that you have a base rate of growth in the gigabytes so if there is a large amount of adoption that it will compound the growth then users will not adopt it for that reason.

How do you suppose proof of Burn could be adapted in order to create a type of ledger type system within Bitcoin based Coins? I am thinking something along the lines that current Coins could be burnt within the same chain for a subset of the new chain with the same balances?

I don't really want to start a new type of Coin, most anything we could come up with could be adapted within current Coins and would be the best method to go for.

Looks Like Cryptsy is right on the ball.

Have I ever told you guys what a great experience I have had with Cryptsy?


~BCX~


https://i.imgur.com/ZyrVcZ1.png

Don't even suggest it or people will crucify you. Trust me

Confirmation times are relevant - it's the number 1 complaint about bitcoin. The size of any chain can be mitigated using pruning, it's just that most developers prefer to worry about that problem at a later date.


I guess you are talking about side chains, here, ala counterparty?

Actually, there is one market which has been completely neglected in the blockchain space - p2p networked games. Blockchain consensus stands ready to address the needs of (at least some) p2p games, but there isn't currently a workable option because the transaction speeds are just too slow (imagine waiting 7 minutes to move forwards in WOW), the infrastructure doesn't support extensible data within 'the' blockchain and players are going to be put off having to pay just to explore the world (due to transaction fees).

All these problems are solvable, though.

"Bit Trek II: The Wrath Of Fiat"


 ;D

Hello, HOWaHANDFULofEARLYadoptersANDshitclonersFUCKEDtheCRYPTOmovementCOIN person. :P

Yes ! Lets start a cryptofiat eurozone ! The noobs will line up for haircuts and we'll bail out your endless trail of too big to fail shitclones.

 :-*

? what is vern talking about?

I've helped this entire scene more than any of you will ever know. What you see in the forums is literally 2% of what actually happens. Hate if you want, I don't give a shit, but you and many others in the very vocal, very much minority have contributed nothing to anyone but yourself

Your keystrokes are wasted on spouting bullshit, rather than moving the entire industry forward. If you shit on all the legitimate companies long enough, you'll be left with the clusterfuck of nothingness and insignificance that you started with

It is thing more funny that I saw today. ;D ;D  So big name is not a problem, Uh?  Well you could show it pair over an android device. ;D ;D

One more page of discussion  and it could better be called Zerocoin, With obvious specifications or What about of Withoutagreementcoin?. :D

You must not be familiar with BCX's humor. He has made quite a few photoshopped tweets of Paul

I find them rather amusing usually :)

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Legendary here in name not title ;).


No thanks

I'm not real sure what you're talking about.

I just post them as I see them.


~BCX~

https://i.imgur.com/yKlRJA5.png

Many Bob coins already done  :o

I have seen pictures of Mullick and he is quite handsome so I can see why Paul could have fallen madly in love with him. Now that same sex marriage laws have been passed last month they can finally prove their love for each other and sign their marriage certificate on the Blockchain.

Is there a date yet for the wedding? Will Paul finally remove his sunglasses so we can see those gorgeous eyes of his or is it like the Muslim culture where he will only remove them for Mullick? Is the Bitcointalk community going to be invited to the wedding or are they going to elope in Vegas?

So many unanswered questions  ??? ??? ???

this is the best thing ever

Well that will make for an akward day at the office on monday  :-[

Ha!  :D

The old, "he's in it for the money", response eh ?

Don't worry about me and the odd troll. Craptsy shill /sockpuppet thread aside, the general public sees 100% of what is happening.

They see people such as yourself cloning the cryptofiat ponzis, and they see people like me who expose them for what they are.

more potential in a dev legends all-stars coin.

my picks for the crypto 11 from active developers

- jl777 (SuperNET)
- Jean-Luc (NXT)
- Sunny King (XPM/PPC)
- fluffypony (XMR)
- crypto_zoidberg (BBR)
- thundertoe (TEK)
- mystery scam dev (BCN/CN)
- fuserleer (eMunie)
- come-from-beyond (JINN)
- Jaguar0625 (NEM)
- tacotime (XMR)

12th man: bitfreak! (XCN)

coach: smooth (XMR)

edit: I think this is a cricket team, so that's the batting order. jl777 & Jean-Luc open, then first drop Sunny King, 2nd drop fluffypony etc. bytecoin mystery scam dev is keeping wicket, then a classic 4 pronged pace bowling attack a la the 80's West Indians (fuserleer, CfB, Jaguar0625, tacotime)

Syntaks

Syntaks (NEOS) ... interesting choice, who would you drop?

A good dev needs more than just raw tech talent these days to make their coin a success. tech skills, finance skills, communication, community building, work ethic, honesty, availability, team work skills etc etc Some devs might have more tech grunt than others, but if they don't communicate well, or they go missing too often they can end up being a dud choice.

Syntaks is a hard worker ... what's your full team?

That's a pretty good team lol

my best dev team would be

- jl777 (SuperNET)
- Jean-Luc (NXT)
- Sunny King (XPM/PPC)
- fluffypony (XMR)
- PhantomPhreak (XCP)
- vitalek buterin (etherium)
- eduffield (DASH)
- fuserleer (eMunie)
- come-from-beyond (JINN)
- Jaguar0625 (NEM)
- bytemaster (BTS)

12th man: Qora (Qora)

coach: smooth (XMR)

It would be pretty interesting to see what that list of guys came up with. Should be pretty cool imo.

Well I dont personally know of too many devs, but the ones I do know are really good guys who are in it for the love of cryptos (hence Syntaks).

I dont really have a list per say, I just think he is a solid choice of someone who has great ideas and he is ethical and honest. Which is what we really need :).



EDIT: Of course you know im biased as well towards Litecoin, so I would add Charlie Aspect Pooler Thrasher Warren too ;)

What about a "Bitcointalk Coin" ?

Already exists (TALK) from mid 2014, and on the way back from near extinction - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994

worth a look

I second the vote for thundertoe :D

ive been trying so hard to get there lol, i feel like they dont want me in their clubhouse.

Why defaced isn't there? FRK has been in cryptocurrency stable & updated for years now! WTF. In crypto world a currency like that is LEGENDARY.

One idea maybe taking first letter from each "legends"'s name and then juggle the letters until they form some nice word.

thanks spiry! I appreciate your nomination :D

This craptsy inhouse dead shitcoin revival/ circlejerk thread is becoming monotonous. ::)

I thought thundertoe doesnt know code and gave TEK to noise23? Why would he be on the list of best devs?

How could you guys overlook Coblee?



~BCX~

Look at the edit of my last post. :)



EDIT: defaced is awesome too

I am fairly sure that he is one of mudderfudder's socks or "candygirls".

He msg'd and/or PM'd me saying he was vegan and how launching Vegancoin was a good idea.

VeganCoin is a good idea but MeatCoin is better.

100% Proof of Steak!!!

http://valentismarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/valentis-Butcher-s-Counter.jpg

Why is it so many of you VEGANaphoebic meatheads think that pictures of meat will scare and/or offend us ?

Do you guys ever wonder how much my sleuthing/trolling has cost you guys ? .. I mean.. how much the potential investors have saved ? ::)

The few "thank you"s and "holy shit you were right dude !"s I have recieved tells me it must be a fortune ! ;)

HOWaHANDFULofEARLYadoptersANDshitclonersFUCKEDtheCRYPTOmovementCOIN will right those wrongs. Believe it.

edit

:P

Isn't Coblee semi retired from LTC now? He's definitely on my 'all time alt coin all-stars dev team', but BCNext would be on that team too. My original list was 'active' alt coin developers. No doubt there are other good devs I know little about, so it's cool to get other people's selections.

There might be 500 alt coins but the number of high quality active devs who can actually create interesting new stuff is probably under 30

Why is it that Vegans care so much about saving animals from being eaten but hate people so much? You know how many Vegans I've met that have a chip on their shoulder? Would be easier to count the ones that didn't have some vendetta against people that don't care about being vegan :P

So when was the last time you spent your time actually contributing to any Coin instead bashing it or other people? I'm sure you think you are saving everyone from themselves but you also need to have as much or more positive influence than just negative....

I despise scammers.. not people.

The "bashing" and "saving people from themselves" are both side effects of my unbiased evaluation of said scam coins.

Now excuse me while think of new ways to shamelessly plug HOWaHANDFULofEARLYadoptersANDshitclonersFUCKEDtheCRYPTOmovementCOIN. ;D

Much innovation..

Such noob..

lol

lol, like your love of Monero which is both a shitcoin and shamelessly plugged.

what an insane comment!! Monero might have some supporters that irritate you, but nobody who follows crypto in any detail can seriously say it's a shitcoin, please! You don't have to like it, but around here 'shitcoin' is almost a technical term with a very definite meaning, and XMR doesn't fit that moniker anymore than NXT or LTC or Ripple ... or any of the other 20 decent alt coins going around.

I'd add that I'm fairly certain no "fair launch" coin since Litecoin has made significant profits for the devs. Unless the devs are launching with a full mining farm behind them to turn on at launch, much better equipped people will make the vast majority of the early profits.

Where did you dream this up ?

"That's the thing you gotta remember about WASPs. They love animals, but they can't stand people." - Gordon Gekko (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wall_Street_(film)#Gordon_Gekko).

 :D

@Crestington

The correct question is....

If Vegans love animals so much then why do they eat all of their food?


Back on topic

So what's the progress on this legends coin?


~BCX~

its obvious vegans don't love animals they just really hate plants  :o

Ha well I'm glad I was able to stir the pot a bit but I doubt you would ever get all your legends into one Coin. Think of movies with an all-star cast, can't find any good ones because there are too many big personalities in one place and it's about the chemistry of the group, the ones that would collaborate with each other will naturally end up doing so. The bottom line is that is you want to have your Coin of Legends then you should create it the way you want and try to collaborate with the people you consider to be legendary.

Also, there is no point is creating a new coin because if you want a Bitcoin/Peercoin based Coin then you can pretty much just takeover any dead or dying Coin and bagholders will love you for it. You really can change just about anything about a Coin, you just need a plan and that it will benefit holders and bring some good tech. Let's say for example you really wanted a VeganCoin (lol), a name change is only a search and replace away, throw is some plant based theme's, some useful features, get some Botany markets going and wala you've got yourself a little Vegan ecosystem.

Wait... do Hero Members count?

Also, I'd do it for kicks but trying to make profit on it, nope I don't wanna screw ppl.

I gave the criteria for joining but this basically turned into a clusterfuck once people started naming all there shitcoins. If we want this coin to get off the ground and be a success you guys need to be more focused.

Are your tracking pixels legendary aswell ?

How many have abandoned cryptos thanks to assholes like you ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341146.0

That wasn't "Legendary" per se it was just a cool little trick that worked like a charm.

I didn't do anything illegal, nefarious or unethical as that is not in the spirit of "crypto"

But I was able to tie IP's listed in many clients peer list to a visit on a pic I hosted here in Bitcointalk before the image proxy.

Tracking pixels on images hosted on my server is 100% legal.

Just harmless research back in 2010/2011 Mate and nothing more.



~BCX~

Instead of jumping on the "lets make yet another shitcoin" bandwagon how about instead a team of legends and heroes sets out to update, in chronological order by launch date, all the existing coins, fix all their bugs, see to it all relevant BIPs are applied and so on?

Since a given size/efficiency of team would have some given finite number of coins they could bring up to date before the oldest is out of date again, this approach will probably only be able to deal wit the first so many months or years worth of coins before finding it needs to forget the more-recent ones for now and go back to the start again, maybe this time being able tp update more coins in less time.

So maybe eventually, especially if the team grows, each time through the chronological list they would be able to update more coins before the oldest needs updating again.

Hopefully they will be unlikely to get so fast at this that shitcoins being launched today will ever be reached, but who cares about shitcoins being launched today when there are so many coins launched years ago that not only have not been kept up to date but also have not even been worked on at all but the "developers" (as they like apparently to call themselves) who are ptting out shitcoins today.

Consider for example Tenebrix and Fairbrix, the first and second scrypt coins. Even by the time the third scrypt coin, Litecoin, came out we already were seeing this bullshit of people putting out some new piece of crap of their own instead of fixing the piece of crap the end-users were already invested into.

This Coblee fellow some of you seem to like is actually one of the early perpetrators of spamming out a new scam instead of fixing the ones end-users were already using.

Instead of updating the (really old, horrible) code of Tenebrix and Fairbrix, he just stole their idea and rendered a clone based on newer code (Litecoin), leaving the user-base already invested into the scrypt concept to rot.

Not a nice guy. Did anyone suspect he might just up and abandon Litecoin at some point? Seems like a no-brainer.

So, chronology. Somewhere there was a thread.

Bitcoin, namecoin, ixcoin, i0coin, tenebrix, fairbrix, was it? Or what, exactly? Lets get launch dates in sequence and see what real heroes of the people can accomplish...

Note that Tenebrix's pre-mine, which was the excuse for creating fairbrix and naming it fair, is still out there, so might well be available for bounties for getting Tenebrix out of the stoneage.

-MarkM-

Sounds fun to me. I'm in.

I can provide a real time discussion environment in my slack group if needed.


This is interesting, but also a lot of work. And when there's a lot of work involved, people will need to be incentivised. The group doing the work would inevitably buy up the coin, fix / overhaul it, then launch the updates increasing the value of the coin.

Which I don't see anything wrong with personally. I think it's a good idea. It would revitalize a lot of dead and broken markets, and do a lot of good for all the bagholders that got screwed over.

I also really like the idea of getting as many Hero+ members into one room, fighting over ideas, and coming out with a new coin.

In a perfect world you're approach makes sense, but here in cryptoland I can't see this working. Too much co-ordination required to keep all the 'egos' working on multiple coins, and so many greedy people here, especially heroes & legends.

A better approach IMO is "My Fair Lady Coin" - a consortium of 'Henry Higgins' heroes/legends finds an existing 'Eliza Doolittle' with potential and turns that coin into a top 10 powerhouse. I can almost see this as a reality TV show. It would be fun and engaging for newbies, with lots of positive promotional/marketing feedback loops.

"Doolittle coin" , the ugly duckling necro'd into a black swan with more bullshit marketing potential than Doge - it's so wrong you know it's right!!

edit: how much marketing power from the audition process from existing shit coins would there be ... HUGE! The Apprentice meets Shark-tank

Lolcust aka ArtForz created Tenebrix as an experiment only.

Coblee created Fairbrix 1 and Fairbrix 2 and then created Litecoin.

Kind of hard to steal your own code.

Like Tenebrix, Both Fairbrix chains were experiments only.

Art still holds about 7.7 million Tenebrix.


~BCX~

"Dead" coins can be extremely lucrative. I made probably at least half my bitcoins simply by CPU-mining BBQcoin for a year or so while it was out of the public eye then selling it before it got on an exchange to people who wanted to revive it and get it onto an exchange. So I didn't even have to wait for it to get (back?) onto an exchange in order to rake in hundreds of bitcoins for a year of devoting one CPU-core to it.

So yeah there are fortunes to be made on coins so "dead" that you don't even need a GPU to mine them. Devote a CPU core each to them while preparing a shiny new version, hopefully with merged mining as a subchain included so that, unlike BBQcoin, it need not die again as soon as it comes back into the public eye due to rape and pillage miners who perforce have to jump from coin to coin because coins are so seldom able to all be mined at once with merged mining; and wait for some idiot to come along with a GPU driving the electricity costs up for everyone by needlessly driving the difficulty up instead of quietly mining with just a CPU core like everyone else; at that point go public with the shiny new version, having hopefully accumulated far far more coins than the idiot who prematurely unleashed a GPU on it will make now that (s)he "forced" you to go public so (s)he now has to compete with gosh knows how many other GPU-miners or even ASIC-miners instead of co-operating quielty with the CPU-mining/dev team...

-MarkM-

EDIT: Lolcust IS Art? Wow I didn't know that. Lolcust always gave the impression of not being any kind of coder type at all.

Lolcust, not a coder, are you effen serious???

I think your memory is going bad on you Mate.


 ;D ;D ;D


~BCX~

I used to chat with him on #Tenebrix, he always gave the impression that he was just the idea man, looking for a coder or coders to code up his ideas.

Thus making the idea that he himself might be Artforz never even occur to me since Artforz was known to even make FPGA and pseudo ASIC type devices even.

-MarkM-

cool idea bro, just need a coin that's been in a coma long enough for all the usual P & D merchants to have pissed off

[ANN] EXHUMED [EXM] 

it could work for sure  ;D

i vote for TALK

definitely time to exhume DarkBlackCockCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819965.0)

OK how about exhume all the dead coins in one swell foop: make a genesis block that takes all the dead coins in all the dead blockchains and gives out exhumecoin proportionately to all the private keys (by converting all the addresses over to the first-byte coding used by exhumedcoin) so all the private keys used in all the dead coins all get some exhumedcoin.

Then since presumably all legends and heroes have huge holdings of bitcoin, maybe throw in all the coins on the bitcoin blockchain too, so the legends and heroes and such behind this scheme, who afterall might not be bagholding any dead shitcoins or not enough to matter, will make something out of this.

Sort of like CLAMS did, but ancient long-dead like hundred year eggs, a real delicacy...

Oh and just think, all the developers who dumped all the shitcoins they developed will be out of luck on this, hahahah, karma bites, sukkas.

Throw in a "locate wallet.dat | import" type thing to automagically suck in all those dead wallets on the users' hard drive for easy importing without having to manually hund down all those dead wallets.

-MarkM-

How would you do that proportionately and fairly? If it allows for any coin I'd promptly make a private shitcoin to exhume. Doing it by coin count or number of private keys just doesn't work.

I suppose you could do something like see what % of the total supply the coins are and go off that somehow. But still, I'd make new shitcoins to exhume.

Maybe run a big vote where people can nominate and vote on specific coins to be accepted, then do it by total supply. 1% of the total supply of whatever coin = 1 ExhumeCoin or something.

Would be cooler if you can exhume any dead shitcoin though.

That could work too, but I'd prefer a 'beauty contest' where the heroes/legends picked an ultimate winner to exhume (maybe rebrand the winner as EXHUMED::EXM), as there's better marketing opportunities as a competition, and we all know adoption is what made Doge a top 10 coin, and that's the best chance for success from this concept of a 'legends of BTT coin' (i.e. style over substance).

My roadmap would be like this:

1- set the basic criteria for entries (i.e. blockchain is resurrectable, previous scam history acceptable)
2- call for nominations, then select 10-15 possible coins
3- heroes/legends debate the merits of each coin, bagholders argue their case (sharktank style)
4- 'tribe votes' to reduce coins down to a final winner


It could all happen over 3-4 months, by the end every crypto follower would know about EXM. Operation Lazarus!

+1 sounds fun as hell.

Or just get it down to 5 or so then let the overhaul team pick one to be announced on completion.

By ancient, long dead I meant to exclude bytecoin style "create a coin today yet pretend it is ancient" type scams, so you'd've had to've created your shitcoins years ago by now in order to be eligible. Those you create today wouldn't be eligible for years yet, and the expectation that folks would start creating shitcoins deliberately to die and lie in wait for another round of sharktank might make them remain ineligible for decades or forever.

But anyway, back to the sharktank idea, presumably one strategy available to bagholders would be to offer up portions of their bags to the sharks, yes?

So basically they could bid for hero/legendary developers to give their coin a makeover.

We could also maybe judge them on the basis of how much of some not-dead coin they'd be willing to offer instead of their bags, as surely the more bitcoin someone would be willing to pay instead of one of their bag coins would be a good indicator of how much they really think their bags are worth?

Though also, of course, of their confidence in the makeover. If they don't think the make their bag worth more than 100 bitcoins, for example, it might not just be lack of confidence in their bags but also some lack of confidence of the abilities of the makeover team?

-MarkM-

There is a coin  CCB Cryptoclub named  here on BCT, They does mentioned upside  already.

Not sure if this is a dead coin but I have always liked ARG.

Argentum the sister of digitalcoin, Well with just 3.6K on marketcap it is only traded on Cryptsy. What of especial do have it?

Good history, The curious about BBQcoin that if I remember correctly it currency was done originally thinking  to dont be traded or to be mined only as fun. :)

Heh - if we're going to revive a dead'sh coin I vote quarkcoin. It was always a nice coin but got crushed by the doge machine.

personally i am against creating a new coin (as previously stated).

however i'm not against the idea of legends and hero group reviving a dead coin,. well thats more a win win., even help a few people that have been burnt rather then buring more pumping out new coins.

a cool coin to revive (ok tis not exactly dead), but is a good harmless fun coin that would suit the characters that often make up the legendary/hero pool of people around here; doubloons pirate currency ;)

Why ? So a new crop of bag holders can be had ?

You craptsy schmucks are pathetic.

your problem is  ???

I dont know what the hell cryptsy did to piss you off so much. But I do find it odd you think some our biggest protestors are our fans

Looking through your feedback history you label 3 people who are generally anti cryptsy as cryptsy shills  ::)

Whatever it is likely isnt worth trying to correct as you seem pretty set in your ways. If I had to guess your either spoetnik or BBmodBB

And for the record. Kelsey has been a user of cryptsy for a long time. But generally thinks every decision we make is wrong lol

Although I don't know who BBmodBB is, I can say for certain you are wrong in assuming he is Spoetnik and should work on how you differentiate people based on the content of their posts.

I agree with this. It would be good for the Cryptoworld to work together and get more new people in.
Don't fight but help eachother will give the Cryptoworld more positive attention.

well i've been openly critical of cryptsy on many an occasion, but don't take that personally  ;) guess i'm more vocal when i am not in favor of something then when i am.

hippie tech is not spoetnik, spoetnik is a friend of mine and would not infer that i'm a cryptsy shill.

Bob already made bitswift

btctalkcoin
bitcointalkcoin

Angry ? Where did you see the bolded all caps ? :P

If the personal attacks and abusive behaviour I had to endure from the admin Horus (while he was begging for coins as the crypto hobo jdtmp4) didn't piss me off, one more shitcoin sure as hell won't. ;)

Correct what ?

Are you implying that I should have taken that 200% 42coin deposit bonus/mistake/bait and stfu ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246679.msg4651738#msg4651738

I have seen Cryptsy do a fair bit of stuff that has cost many users funds for their own personal gain. I think it's going to bite them in the ass for not doing their due diligence on the PayCoin $20 floor, accepting the prime controller key and keeping it listed for fees and stake generated despite all the massive red flags.

I would like to know the opinion of Spoetnik. He is a legend too.

both in need of devs, and looking for devs

[ANN] EXHUMED [EXM]  

lol ... TALK and BCT are well past dead, lazarithian level, and what is dead can not die  :D

+1 lol

we could always revive litecoin isn't it 'officially' dead  ;)

Yeah, where is Spoetnik? I miss his rants :(

I've been on the losing end of that fence for over a year now. It's fairly stressful trying to rally people in multiple communities to come together for the greater good.

Not if all communities were united by using their coins to form one decent coin with a huge community.  

We need to gather all dead dying communities/devs together. Form a new antimatter like coin. When we have a huge community that is united the second part of the task is to stick together and crush all new scam coins with nothing new to offer. No point having 4000 fragmented shit communities with a few people trapped in each because they dumped their crypto stake into a coin and are now stuck hoping and dreaming they'll get some return in the future. If you total up all the energies spent by everyone who occasionally adds a little support to their dying dead community and that energy organised into tasks small or large that were for the good of one community .....then you could see something worthwhile

unite

It's one of the biggest struggles in crypto over the year/s, couldn't be more on point with this & many don't see beyond there own groups / friends / circles / clubs / etc (most throwing stones if not devoted to them alone). If communities actually started to work more together & not against each other, we would stop seeing all these fights over money / power / greed of what could be the one thing to change the world for the better? Only time will tell what will come of all this, how long we stand still in time is up to the world around us & no one can predict the future of what will be.

however your problem is you've mainly been inviting (admittedly sometimes unwittingly) the communities biggest scamers to the table., sorry to break that to you but tis the truth of it.

n tba very few clean devs around these parts.

another issue is the focus on ROI rather then the real reasons for alternative currencies.

You just have to get familiar with the purpose of the alts. 90% of the devs are creating cryptos to get some monies. That's why i cant imagine why "legends" should create a coin together.

One huge community backing a single well thought out, well established coin with respected developers? If only there was something like that already we could all work on improving rather than reinventing the wheel for the n-thousandth time.

I'm happy to accept people may disagree with Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dashcoin or Dogecoin on some fundamental principle, but all of them, plus every other existing credible coin?

there was already way tooo much "community driven" coins

I think you will always have a large amount of this where groups are segregated into their own little communities. The thing is that if you combined everyone into one ultimate Coin then you still lose depending on who has the most of this new Coin, so there would still be some at the top which profit, people who trade and profit from it and people towards the bottom that lose out. For me the best route would be to collaborate on things that can benefit many different Coins simultaneously and focus on the weak points in Blockchain technology as a whole which is Blockchain size, sync times and mobile usage.

if members of the forum legitimately wanted alternatives to succeed, they'd back the leading alternative, instead of attacking it and spreading FUD to promote some shitcoin.

hell the market spoke long ago and continues to do so, just not much of the bitcointalk crowd ever bothers listening, too busy trying to get on the back of the next 'innovative' to sell snake oil get rich quick scheme.

What is the leading alternative? Litecoin?

yes (i didn't say as i don't want this thread to turn into another plug ur alt coin thread)

I'm still fairly convinced that greed is part of the problem here and many involved with cryptos are doing it purely for the love of money. I mean sure getting something extra out of a hobby is nice, but I think a lot of people see $$$ in their eyes and are not doing this for the love of cryptos.




If you are talking about Mr Garza, he was the one who asked me to a debate after standing up for what I thought was right. After telling him im more than happy to "debate" him, he ran with his tail between his legs.


Also really? Out of all the stuff I do you pick that one? lol

not at all, i dont have any direct knowledge of Mr Garza's actions, only hearsay, and around here i take that with a grain of salt, and i can assure you there are way worse going ons around these parts.

problem is around here, everyone's carried away with all this innovation nonsense, i guess that comes with the nerdy territory. however there is very very little understanding of even the most basic economic models.

you ask the average tool what gives fiat its value, they prattle on about gov and guns etc...without the slightest understanding.

then you get the tin hat crowd with their fractional reserve leading fiat creation debt money dribble  :o

ask how bitcoin gets it price and u'll get a commodity tends to be priced towards the cost of production equal absolute bs dribble.

i can absolutely say without reservation that any community that even slightly believes in any of the above has less the ZERO chance of creating a usable currency.

so disconnected from reality despite your self-gratifying erroneous believe that you have some amazing insight (because u watch a few youtube videos) above the average joe's.

then the rest of the crowds is here simply for the fiat; well atleast that makes sense.

but whats missing is the real opportunity to create something of value, like i say often, the only thing good to ever come out of crypto todate is the; idea.

the best innovation, won't be all the bs bells and whistle everyones trying to sell here, but something that makes it all simple.

Very Well Put, I think I am at this stage of crypto crisis also! But lets still have fun and maybe we will accidentally make the most stable coin ever made! Here is my idea for the coin...

First of all, I would like to see a coin that touts special Functionality develop everything first (all BS bells and whistles) and then roll out the blockchain. You would think this is how it should work right?

Secondly I would want to see a group try to develop a coin with my new WYPIIWYGO algorithm. What You Put In Is What You Get Out Algo. Then no one could ever lose any money and the economy would only surge forward as it depletes FIAT! New meaning to burn technology is we burn all FIAT going into the coin! :) Then you are really gonna have to use the dam coin right!!
 
The price will always be .00000001 satoshi per coin though and still be worth a dollar. That's right so it will never go down in price ever! If you buy it for cheaper than a dollar someone gave you a discount then. Since to get back in it would cost you 1 dollar in any Fiat Currency and then we BURN it coming back in! Or instead of Burning the currency we could just give it back to the Government and say thanks but no thanks! :)

Now for people who are serious about value and alternative economy functionality, all you would need to do is issue a coin for every dollar sent in. But that takes a worthless dollar to buy a worthless alt coin, although that does make it even at the entry point, lol :) Burning the Dollar worth of FIAT secures the economy from being depleted by profiteers! And No Pump and Dump cuz you ain't taking profit out of this coin ever! You can profit internally though by bartering.

Aww but how would we know people really sent their money in to get the coins, do we look for a pile of ashes? Oh well back to the drawing board.

90% of the cryptos wasn't created by devs to create some "value" for cryptoland. They dont go for innovation on world changing stuff. They just want to get their slice of cake and thats all.
PS. maybe even much more than 90%

I hear you on that one, it is a very well known fact that markets can also be manipulated by major coin holders of any crypto.

But my new WYPIIWYGO Algo will leave all other devs/coins in the dust and create a Utopian Economy! With really fast and cheap transactions, the WYPIIWYGO coin will replace all currency!

I've just missed this thread for a few days what is that WYPIIWYGO? lol

No Mullick i am not hippietech  ::)
And you will recall me and kelsey had agreed with every thing 101% on cryptsy chat over the years.
and once again i thought i wrote what kelsey said a couple posts back (i had to look who posted the comment)
funny no one has ever accused me of being kelsey..

so once again i agree with kesley.. as quoted above.
and since i like Piracy / File Sharing stuff hey why not doubloons ?

i bumped this old one because i missed it way back :(
the best way to get this going is we premine a ton of them and Legends get a cut then hero's get a cut..
and the public then has to buy them at Cryptsy.

but i am not sure these Legends will go for it.. i think BCX for example likes to manipulate Monero
and each of these guys have their own coin.. like kelsey and Litecoin

oh and i deserve a "Legend" cut of the premine because it was my idea  8)
and you all know i am a legend anyway i just don't have the title here yet... *yet !

Not a legend but....

smokers ought to support 2bacco coin.
2bacco coin is made for smokers,
The Smoker Friendly Coin

My thought:  The world does not need another f-ing altcoin. 

well TALK turned 2 years old a few hours ago
still a shitcoin POS with some check point warning (no dev)
but STILL HERE!

And yes still focused on being the coin of for and by The legends of bitcointalk; among other goals.

Looking back on the above quote from July, TALK has faired better than CON (but they have a nicer client) and TALK has preformed better than the CANNabis coins, if you grant we worked up from rock bottom and the CANNabis collection is still trying to hold the midrange on marketcap and trade.

re: The distro

We have a very nice block explorer now ... looks like many of the original airdrop handouts (something like 12k to 1200 members) are mostly dormant ... so possible good as burned.

I will still give a starter kit to legends from my stash ;)
I was able to buy 20k on the market plan on distro those via tips to anyone doing honest TALK on the bitcointalk threads.