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I have requested that Dank play "Mary Had A Little Lamb" for my niece.  We made an agreement in which he would play the song and listening to it would bind me to agree to only post once a day in any of his threads.




In response to our agreement, Dank has uploaded a song that is not "Mary Had A Little Lamb" and misrepresented it as such.  This was an attempt to scam me to comply with our agreement despite his refusal to complete his part of the arrangement.  He has earned a Scammer tag.



This file is clearly not "Mary Had A Little Lamb".  The case for a scammer tag here is open and shut.

Its not even music.

Don't get me wrong, I love all of his music and so does my niece which is what makes this whole situation so disappointing.  Dank Untitled 107 was not the song we had agreed upon.

You should have seen the look in her eyes when I told her Dank had finally found time to do the song she requested as his #1 fan.  Absolutely glowing.  She was crushed when she found out it wasn't what she asked for and it really put a damper on what was otherwise a very enjoyable visit with me.  

I fully endorse this product and or service.

Rarity, really?

This is so ridiculous, I don't even know what to say.

This makes me think, that it's maybe really a good Idea, that everyone starts with a scammer tag until proven otherwise. And just gets a "not a scammer" tag.

Whats next?


Now, you agreed to post only once as soon as dank delivers the song.

He has not delivered yet, so you don't have to do your part.

And by the way, by taking this THAT serious, you agree that you get a scammer tag if you post in one of Danks threads more than once in 24 Hours? As soon he has delivered of course.

Come on.

On a related note:
Dank's guitar is painfully out of tune. Guitar tuners start at only $8 on Amazon.
Anyone volunteering to set up a donation address so we can buy Dank a tuner?

He has misrepresented himself as having made the delivery in an attempt to scam me into compliance.  That I have sniffed out the scam does not mean it did not occur.  The damage to my niece is done.


I stand by the terms of the agreement, which requires me to comply only upon listening to his recording of Mary Had A Little Lamb as presented on the guitar tabs I gave him.  If I listen to the song and later exceed the posting quota, I should of course receive the tag.

Someone already spent 1.5BTC on that.

Yeah.

Sigh, that's not what I tried to imply.

What you and dank made here is a  Gentlemen's agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_agreement) and just netiquette requires you to honor it.

Not honoring this agreement is bad behavior, but nobody deserves a scammer tag because of this.

A Scammer tags purpose is to quickly show people which users have on purpose caused financial damage to others, so they can stay away from them.

Using this tag for that, would make the tag useless for its purpose.

We had a written agreement of barter for the delivery of a recorded musical performance of a specified song.  Recorded music has a well established monetary value.   Delivery was made of a fraudulent, misrepresented product.  

I'm not sure what to make of this, I have herd it, And I can hear there is a "mary had a little lamb" (going up in tone) then "little lamb" twice in syllables, Then the rest could be a Twisted guitar solo for the end.

I don't know if I would call scam on a strange arrangement between you two, That didn't sound right. Did you expect it to?

The product does not resemble the provided tab in any way.  It is self evidently not "Mary Had A Little Lamb", a song with a distinctive and well recognized traditional tune and rhythm.  As Dank represents himself as an expert guitar player, there is no reason for me not to expect him to deliver properly on his promise unless I have been mislead by him again.

GOBBLE, GOBBLE, GOBBLE, GOBBLE, GOBBLE!!

Get a grip, brother.  :P

Tell that to Hendirx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImuLiDsv3Pk

I know national anthem, But trying to portray freestyle.

While this is true, it should probably be pointed out that dank is soliciting and accepting donations on the basis that he is going to become one of the "greatest musicians" and stage a musical festival bigger than Woodstock by the end of the year.  His ability to play guitar is somewhat relevant to whether or not he can achieve "greatest musician" status in the next three months and if he is not actively organising the world's biggest music festival then saying that he is going to do so is certainly scamming people.

This tune is identifiable as The Star Spangled Banner, with improvisational and artistic modifications.  Dank Untitled 107 shares nothing in common with the provided tab which was to be played or the tune of Mary Had A Little Lamb.

Yes I was not comparing the two, Just pointing out everyone's "improvisational and artistic modifications" can vary, And in this case Dramatically LOL, In any case, A scammer thread for this? really?

Mary Had A Little Lamb is a recognizable tune, playing something else and pretending it is the same tune is not delivering the product promised.  By that standard one could promise to send 10 bitcoins and instead send a piece of paper with "10 Bitcoins" written on it.  Hey, it's all a matter of opinion, right?  No, we must hold each other to our word when delivery of a product is promised.

Recorded music has monetary value, and this fraud was an attempt to falsely use that value to compel compliance with an agreement.  In addition, as a critic of some of Dank's business practices he stood to gain economically from silencing my warnings.

I'll have to concur with Rarity's assessment. If I go to iTunes or the Amazon MP3 store and order a song, but instead of my song got a jumbled mess of screeches, that would be considered a scam also.

Precisely.  Though I am a fan of this music, it is not the song I ordered.

As to the monetary size of the scam, Dank has made public guarantees that he is soon to be one of the most famous and well known musicians in the world.  The value of a personalized performance and recording from such an artiste early in his career is vast.  

Well I don't dispute the value of music, And I can see why holding on to an artist in the making's music can be a money spinner for you, I just feel like it upset your niece so it upset you, Is there a way to resolve this? Maybe ask him to do it again and stick to the tune? I just feel a scammer thread should be a last resort.

Not siding with anyone here, Just trying to mediate, If it does not work, I will leave you two to it.

He refuses to redo it, in fact it took a lot of coaxing to get him to do it at all.

I am open to some negotiation, but too much damage has already been done to my niece for me to simply accept the original terms.  I am open to discussion of new terms if Dank indicates he is similarly open to finding a resolution.  However, until he signals that he is open the scammer tag should be immediately applied and should stay if we are unable to come to terms.

O.K. I just read the "deal" part, The thread is difficult to follow LOL.

I'm there daily and half the time I can't understand wtf is going on.

great!
another sock puppet suggesting free money for dank for another ridiculous reason

This is hilarious..  You guys should make love and get it over with.

His suggestion is far from ridiculous. Using a guitar tuner is helpful for beginners who have not yet developed the ear necessary to tune without a reference.

It's like having your personal recording from Jimi Hendrix singing happy birthday on your birthday party! It would only add to the value that so early in his career Jimi was subpar on the guitar and also slightly out of tune. Collectors would go berserk but I imagine having such a piece would be emotionally too valuable for you to sell for mere millions of fiat money!

Yes, it would indeed be a prized collector's piece.

Maybe dank just draws inspiration from Arnold Schoenberg.

He doesn't need another tuner, he already claims to have purchased one out of the funds to his ponzi bank.

right,the bitcoin community should finance him a guitar tuner because his guitar mp3s are painful to listen to
why not give him food stamps as well ?

That IS exactly what his "bank" is for.

Is this for real? Is this forum going insane? Oh god my sides. I am dying.

It sounds like Kurt Cobain playing Mary Had a Little Lamb to me...  ???

Not sure what the issue is?

-Zoey

Scammer tag for Rarity for making me think that Dank had been scamming.

Moderators, please move this thread to Off-topic.

Thanks for making my morning, already, Rarity! :)

Keep spreading my music, keep spreading the love.

Scammer tag for organofcorti for frivolous demands of scammer tags, disrespecting the immense amount of effort required to successfully file for one against people who stopped posting weeks ago.

It takes more time to file for a scammer tag than it takes to dream up a scam, execute it, create a new account, and repeat. - But here you come in, just shitting on the whole system...  >:(

Scammer tags for everyone, just for the fun of it.

Yeey!

(Come on, this whole thread is just silly from the beginning)

Meta-scammer-tag for Kluge, who is trying to make people believe that an infinite scammer regression is possible.

The perpetrator of the fraud is offering no defense and refusing to discuss terms to address the issue.  Our deal is written and agreed to in plain terms and has been broken.  A fraudulent product was attempted to be passed off as fulfilling our agreement.  It is time to give Dank the tag, if he is willing to violate agreements he should not be running a Bank or otherwise accepting payments with promise of later fulfilling his obligations on this forum without users knowing the value of his word as a businessman.

Three simple questions will straighten this out:
1) Was payment required for services?
2) Is there sufficient evidence of a contract? Verbal or otherwise, though written is preferred (shouldn't be so hard since this is on the internet...)
3) What was your net loss as a result of working with Dank?

Yes, Yes, I called out the scam before my payment was required.  My loss in not getting the recording I promised is vast, the value of an early rare personalized recording from a great musician is vast.

As Dank is offering no explanation, denial, or defense I believe this case remains open and shut.

Would you be happy if I made a youtube video of me singing this song for you?

Absolutely not.  Dank is an exceptional musician who my niece and myself are fans of, he has made assurances he will be one of the most famous and talented musicians in the world.  These are the reasons I stood to gain personally and economically in negotiating to receive a recording of Mary Had A Little Lamb from him. 

I read all the way to this and it pegged it.

for all you know I am Dave Matthews.... and I was going to do a dance so I am totally offended by your post :)

Ill take a youtube song Dave lol

You called my bluff... :P

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. A fucking fortune just on the emotional trauma of his niece alone.

As we can see, Rarity and fgervais should be taken very seriously, at all times.

As opposed to the child who runs a "bank" that is funded with handouts from his parents? 

Part 1)
So let me get this straight. You were going to pay him for the song...but didn't pay him because you didn't get what you wanted (but you did, in fact, receive something)?

Dank did deliver a recording to you that very very very vaguely resembles a shitty quality "Mary had a little lamb", did he not? You can claiming he's scamming you because the quality didn't match your standards? From what I'm gathering, Rarity, you are the scammer as you haven't paid for services rendered by Dank.

Part 2)
You're view of a "great musician" needs a bit of work my friend. I'm not entirely sure rubbing your testicles on some guitar strings to make sounds qualifies as music...but I suppose who am I to judge.

Emotional toil cannot be easily quantified. Imagine what I'm going through as I write responses to stupid people on the internet...

Part 3)

+1 times a billion...times a billion...times another billion...

Part 4)
I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just giving an outside opinion on the matter after reading through this thread. Honestly, it's utterly idiotic. Unless there's a substantial amount of evidence posted I don't think I can vote either way yet. But based on what I've seen already there isn't a scam here.

I got a cheap laugh out of it, just wow, this forum is hitting new lows every day!

I'm curious now who was the first to get a scammer-tag?  Surely it meant something back then.

Maybe this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11905 ?

Back when the Scammer tag actually meant the person scammed you out of money :P

Also it's really funny that the person who he scammed stole about 5000 BTC and will probably get a scammer tag soon. So he got a scammer tag for scamming a scammer.

I tought he said in the thread that Senbonzakura had provided him with a guitar tuner? Maybe he just needs somebody to show him how to use it?

I demand a "dank" tag for everyone posting in this thread.

Yay, gang tags!

On a more serious note, dank's thread doesn't belong in Long Term Offers.  He's asking for donations and not offering people who give him funds for the Gathering of the Dankalos any return other than "good karma".  The only other "business" he uses that thread for is taking out the occasional pay-day style loan, which belongs in general Lending not Long-term offers. 

Well, with his track record, he'll have to rely on survival investments donations for the long term.


Also, totally wanna get a dank tag.

I did not receive the product that was promised.  The fact that I did not make payment is irrelevant as the purpose of the tag is to warn people in the future that the tagged breaks their agreements.  The user in question solicits large amounts of money through this forum and can not be trusted to stand by his word.  


By no standards was this the requested song according to the provided tab.  It was not poor quality, it was a different song.  If you maintain a standard where people can lie entirely about the products they sell on the forum there will be no reason for anyone to ever continue to buy and sell here.  If someone promises to sell an iPhone and instead sends a low quality flip phone they should not receive leniency for simply sending a phone.


Dank himself has made the promise of music greatness, if you are telling me he has misrepresented this than it is just more proof he is untrustworthy and has operated a scam.


We have a written agreement for a product to be provided, it was not.  There is nothing to debate.

Repentance, why is it that I've paid back all my investors, and will pay the remaining two I have, early, once my BTC comes through?

I didn't realize people gave back donations.

Dank Bank has been the longest lasting weekly interest program, has it not?

Why are you asking for donations in "Long Term Offers"?  Dank Bank may offer interest and pay back lenders but your musical festival is not a Dank Bank project - as you just said, you're asking for donations which won't be paid back.

Your Dank Bank thread should only be about your "legitimate" Dank Bank business.  Instead, you now solicit donations for your music festival in the OP of your Dank Bank thread when the music festival is clearly not being offered as an investment on which people will be given a return, whether as a fixed loan or as a share of the *cough* profits.  The Long Term Offers forum is for lending and borrowing and soliciting donations for your music festival is neither.

I already said, I am not seeking donations for any of my ventures.  Show me a post where I asked for donations on this forum.

Rarity, *sigh*, you're really trying to create the thinnest argument possible here. The reality is that you're just butthurt your niece wasn't happy about the twanging Dank submitted.

No one lost any money. No one gained any money. There is no scam here. Based on the evidence you've currently provided in this thread, all you did was ask for a favor. Just because Dank might have been an asshole doesn't mean he's going around scamming people.

People's definition of "Scammer" on this forum is ridiculously construed.

I did not ask for a favor, I had a written agreement as documented in the very first post of this thread.  I was not "satisfied" because the agreed upon product was not delivered and was falsely represented as genuine in an attempt to get me to comply with our agreement.  This is a scam by the most basic of definitions.  

The monetary gain for Dank in this scam was to silence a vocal critic of his business practices and the monetary value of recorded music is well established.

Normally, yes, recorded music does have a monetary value. However, what ever Dank is trying to do with his guitar is not music.

Rarity, that is my version of Mary Had a Little Lamb, just for you.  Perhaps if you didn't spam my threads with the same questions, I would have turned the distortion down and tuned my guitar before recording.

You cannot sell a car and deliver a bike and act as if it is all the same.  The product did not match the tune or rhythm of the provided tab.  It is not a matter of interpretation.  Even properly tuned and undistorted the notes played would not be identifiable as the requested song.

In a false attempt to claim this as the product promised and not the entirely distinct song it was, you have now admitted instead to purposefully providing a low quality unrecognizable product.  Such an intentional action out of spite to provide an unrecognizable product is an admission of scamming.   You may as well have agreed to sell me a hamburger but instead sold a hot dog you spit on.  Clearly not the agreed upon product.

If you are indeed capable of playing Mary Had A Little Lamb in a recognizable manner which as an expert guitar player you surely can, you can provide your defense by recording it and posting it for this thread.  Given your history of fraud, however, you should do it on video and provide us with identification.

Are you referring to...

...as the written agreement? Unfortunately, that is not what you think it is. You're asking if he could, not if he will. There is a difference, which is why I made the original note that you were asking for a favor, and not formally agreeing to a service. Not only that, but I see absolutely NO mention that Dank agreed to perform the specified tab. I see the quote where he mentioned that if you listened to what he played you'd have to stop posting stuff or whatever, but there's no detail.

Rarity, you HAVE to understand that there needs to be quoted proof of an ACTUAL agreement. This would entail that you say "I would like for you to do this for me", and he would say "Why yes, I will do this for you by [specified date]". THAT is the most basic verbal (written in this case) contract you can have.


Ah, I see. Well since that's the case, let me enlighten you a bit. The most basic definition of scam is "to defraud; swindle". You also seem to be lacking the basic knowledge of "defraud; swindle" so I look the liberty of looking it up for you:



As nothing was taken from you, this is not a scam. You're right in saying this is an easy open-shut case. There is no scam.



This is just an opinionated statement and absolutely not possible to prove in under the best of circumstances.

No, the written agreement was made over several posts and is quoted in full in the first post of this thread.  Please stop wasting my time.


It's like saying somebody shouldn't be charged with bank robbery if the guard thwarts them.  You are an idiot.  Nothing was taken from me because I identified the scam as it was in progress.


Neither of those statements are opinions.  They are facts.


We had an agreement, and this is all spelled out in writing, that if he played Mary Had A Little Lamb (and was given a tab to show what song I meant) I would agree to perform certain actions.  There is no need for dates or "Why Yes" since it was conditional on Dank making the effort.  I later asked him to post the song in accordance to our agreement, and he claimed he was doing so with the posted song.  This is when the scam occurred, had he simply never claimed to have played it there would be no complaint.  The agreement did not require him to.  The scam is in claiming to have fulfilled the agreement when he did not in an attempt to falsely claim payment.

dank's fast becoming the Chris-Chan of Bitcoin.  He'll probably be "famous" by the end of the year, but only because it can't be all that much longer before 4chan becomes aware of his existence.

I actually did have a dank tag at one point. Luckily it could be removed using plastic surgery and I could then fit into my underwear once more.

Rarity should be the one receiving the scammer for starting this shit storm of a thread. Wtf are you serious, in the scam accusations board??? Get over it if he hurt your feelings, this is not what the tag is for.

The emotional damages to my niece are only one aspect of this case.  In attempting to defraud me into believing he had played the song requested in accordance to our agreement he was attempting to silence a vocal critic of his business.  He had an economic motive in this scam.

Its a life lesson for your niece, the world is filled with liars and cheats, tell her to get used to it.

Right, go post that in the Nefario thread.

I actually dug up Cobain's corpse yesterday and repeatedly beat him over the head with a guitar using the amp (with way too much clipping) as an anvil while singing Mary Had A Little Lamb. It sounded exactly like this.

Or at least the "I have zero knowledge of business law, contracts, formal agreements, basic definitions of simple words, and I'm butthurt because I didn't get want I wanted" tag.

Rarity, welcome to the internet. It seems you're a bit new here. People do stuff like this all the time. It's only if money is stolen from someone else that we actually give a shit here. Other than that, it's just people complaining that they had their feelings hurt.

Anyway, that's the last I'll say on the topic. I can't instill common sense, logic, and basic reasoning to a brick wall, so what's the point lol

You are clearly the one who has no understanding of how business is done.  It is good that is the last you have to say on this since you have added nothing and are clearly an ignoramus.  We had a written agreement for the exchange of goods and services in which a fraudulent attempt to deliver was made.  It is a scam, even if actual real money like Bitcoins has not been exchanged the products in question have monetary value.

It's not nice to speak ill of the dead this way.  >:(

He may have had a problem with heroin, but it's not as big of a deal as people think it is. That's just what made him who he is. He had stomach problems too, which I'm sure the H helped a great deal. Quite a few of us have been there with regards to opiates.

-Zoey

It's so funny when someone starts out a troll thread and ends up taking it seriously.

Please exit the thread if all you wish to do is call the authenticity of my attempts to pursue justice into question.  This is a very serious matter for me and has been from the start.  I would not have agreed to cease my efforts to warn members of the forum of some of the dangers of investing with Dank in exchange for this personalized performance if I did not have a strong a legitimate need to do so in order to make my niece happy.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)

That aside, as ridiculous in size this is compared to what's happening out there, for justice's sake, if things went as described, I'd say Dank has earned a tag.

...though, what we would really need is the possibility of changing only some of the coins to Xs, probably!  ;D

Thank you, they did as the quotes I have provided clearly illustrate.


The monetary value to a collector of a rare personalized performance from one of the world's greatest musicians early in their career is huge.  The monetary value involved here is tremendous. 

First I read about a user wanting to give himself the scammer tag, now a request to apply said tag to a user who has yet to sing Mary had a Little Lamb.

Let us pray:

Heavenly father, Satoshi, hallowed be Thy name, Thy Kingdom come, Give us each day our daily b....

Now onto reading the rest of this thread.

~Bruno~

No, a user who is an expert guitarist with guarantees of world fame falsely delivering a product that was not as advertised in an attempt to scam someone to comply with a written agreement. 

I'm ready to read page two, and have to admit I'm leaning toward to being in agreement with you. I did find the Zong Tong Brothers version of Mary Had a Little lamb, a heck of lot better than Dank's, but still...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGOhadu7Vhc

Thank you for your support.

His first album will be entitled "You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a Dank"

I know a way where we can get a million people to listen to Dank's version of Mary had a Little Lamb. Rip the audio, and post it on YouTube with the tittle "Intro of Psy and Lady Gaga cover of MHALL" Then sell it as a ringtone a buck a pop. To further the ruse, claim this to be the first leak of a studio session by StudioLeaks. (word it as such or equivalent in the description) Come to think of it, this should hit 10M views.

Another idea, on a slightly different theme, rip the recording, placing it on YT with another misleading title. What you'll then have is a the Dank Roll.

Or over-dub this YT sensation (27M Views): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqN7Cj2Sjw

http://blockchain.info/block-index/312601/0000000000000255f76c4817dc9f2edeb110922cfdaf1687957b75cd9dcbd79a

Are we to believe that you repaid your 50BTC loan without interest, and from coins mined a couple of hours ago?

Or did you just grab a random transaction of the site and used it as "proof" your ponzi actually pays out?

Danks possible ponzi scheme hasnt collapsed yet but I do agree he did not provide the promised item in the OP, much as it pains me to agree with a grown man who likes my little pony.

Are you serious? Stupid question, of course you're 'serious.'  That's not the correct transaction.

103.642 BTC http://blockchain.info/tx-index/29313842/27afde9bf6f2c937a8f2016d5683d25acc55da34c1fda8b472e7bf1be6a9fffb
51.42 BTC http://blockchain.info/tx-index/29313886/ed1502b8c8280c34ea8ccc590feb6fbfa3a2fa8192ab4a5149624a7f23fcfca5

Thank you for proving your trustworthiness.

So services were requested, found lacking in expected quality, and thus not paid for. The only useful tag in this case would be 'incompetent'.

It's hard to put soul in music when you're doing it for someone's ego.

So how are you going to manage to put soul into providing a custom beat for 420?

He smokes weed, he's somewhat intact with his consciousnesses.

Dank  promised something and lied about creating it making his soul worth less and thus his insurance offer is null and void  :P

Except, I did create it.  I can't help if you don't like it, you control your feelings.

I think this sums up the situation. Except there is a fine line between "lacking in expected quality" and "intended deception":

If I would hire Elton John to play "Mary Had A Little Lamb" on my nieces birthday party and Elton would have a bad day and would not live up to my expectations because he hit a few bad notes on the piano and wore a soulless outfit not featuring his extravagant sunglasses, I would call it "lacking in expected quality". This would entitle me to negotiate reduction or waiver of fees on the grounds of quality issues. This would in no way make Elton a scammer. He made reasonable attempts to deliver the services agreed but we are all humans, sometimes even Elton can't charm all his fans.

However if instead of Elton a poor imitator would show up with false hair, a cheap nylon suit and a Greek accent.. Well I would not call that "lacking in expected quality". I would call that intended deception. And even if the payment would not be made I would still call it an attempted fraud.

I can't decide which side of the line Dank's delivery of services was. However I believe that Rarity's claims can't be simply dismissed as "you didn't pay for it, so it's not even a scam".

^ I second this motion. :D

I would pay good money for Dank to get an 'incompetent' tag.   :P

Lmfao maybe lost stoner tag?

Is there a tag for fleecing a couple thousand dollars from your parents to pay for your internet funbux schemes? 

You bought up some very fine points in your post above but, by doing so, I now recognize another issue. There is no proof that Dank is the one playing the guitar in that audio.

That's why if you don't set expectations, you can't be let down.

Great, I hope you don't expect to excape the scammer tag.

(really, I do live my life according to this advice, but using it like this is just lame)

I don't expect anything, but who have I scammed?

I'd pay good money for half the service operators around here to get that tag.

I disagree.
Hearing Danks repetoir i think there is no way you could have expected his version to be different than it is.
You fully knew Danks style and by not specifying how you wanted it to sound you are bound to his musical interpretation.
Did you provide him, for instance, with sheet music of MHaLL or other guidelines of what you expected the work to be?

I think this was "it's" sinister plan to show dank that changing on a whim is easy. But the plan backfired... Now "it's" pissed and started this crap.

Rarity provided dank with tabs.

dank has also said that he'll supply 420 with a custom beat by today.  It will be interesting to see the quality of what he supplies and whether it meets the specifications set down by 420.

Aaah, that changes things.

If Matthew Wright deserves a scammer tag, then Dank does too.

They both made a promise and then failed to keep it. No money changed hands in either situation, but lies were told and agreements were broken.

While this thread may appear frivolous to some, it brings up an important point: What exactly is the criteria for the scammer tag?

As an individual, I feel that the scammer tag is useful because it is a signal that the person tagged is dishonest and therefore I shouldn't do business with them. Therefore my personal feeling is that any instance of dishonesty should be punished with the tag, even if the person involved didn't gain any money or stand to gain any money in that particular instance.

However, of course instances of dishonesty vary in seriousness, and people make mistakes. No one should be branded with the scammer tag for life in a situation like this. In my opinion, Dank should definitely get the tag, but it should be removed as soon as he comes up with "Mary Had a Little Lamb" played to the tablature that Rarity provided for him. As anyone who has read any of his threads can see, he claims to be well on his way to becoming one of the world's finest musicians, so Mary Had a Little Lamb should be very easy for him. A refusal to provide it is just obstinacy and should be punished with the scammer tag.

A little fun fact here. Did you know that Baa Baa Black Sheep, Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, and the Alphabet song are all the same tune?

Except, I didn't break any agreement, I didn't lie, I made the song.  Rarity is butthurt because she made expectations and set herself up for failure.  And the truth is Rarity is a troll, so it's totally irrelevant.

I'm quite sure I've made it clear before that I play music from the soul, not ego.

If the quality of your music reflects the quality of your soul, then you have more problems than you realise.  I can't wait to hear what you produce for 420 - you've said he'll "get" your stuff because he smokes weed.

Dank just sent me a PM stating that he's rejoining his old band and together they will play MHALL. Here's the link on YT of Dank & The Knot Quite Ready por el Primetime Players: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LllzOx_iPqs

Dank, have you ever played the Bubble Bowl?

No, it's a matter of learning to feel the energy as you play and actually learning the instrument.  Nobody is supposed to be great after two months practice.

Watching now.

You made a song, but anyone with ears could tell you that isn't the song agreed on. You were even provided with tablature which you didn't follow.


Rarity expected you to honor your agreement. I don't think that is someone setting themselves up for failure. Rarity believed that you would do as you promised. The fact that you didn't is your fault, not Rarity's.


No. You lied. You broke a promise. End of story. The irrelevant part is whether or not Rarity is a troll.


I assume this is your way of saying that you don't play recognizable pieces of music.

You should have made it clear to Rarity that you can't or won't play the song in a recognizable way from the tablature provided.

Instead, you decided to lie.

You never had any intention of honoring this agreement, and you shouldn't have made it.

Now that you have, you have been dishonest and you should get the scammer tag.

You are exactly like Matthew N. Wright. If he has the tag, then so should you.

The problem is I never agreed to play by her tab.  And the song clearly goes mar-y-had-a-lit-tle-lamb.

Matthew is not the least bit like me.

So have you submitted a custom beat to 420 yet or is that yet another thing you couldn't be assed doing despite saying that you would?

You are both talentless losers who will never amount to anything.

How is Matthew N. Wright talentless? I think you just made that up. Do you pull facts out of your bum very often?

Nope. He's scammed yet another user. 

I bet your parents would beg to differ...

I don't sing Baa Baa Black Sheep to the same tune as (Twinkle Twinkle and the Alphabet).

Twinkle Twinkle is something like CCGGAAG, FFEEDDC

Baa baa back sheep is something like CCGCDDDDE, GDGDEEC (I am not sure about the exact notes, but you see they are quite different).

Fun fact: my daughter (age 4) likes to sing "Tinkle Tinkle little star" whenever she uses the potty. :)

It's a subjective assessment rather a fact, per se., but I would be interested to hear about what talents you think he has. Personally I think the world would be better if him and Dank were deathfucked by Georgie Proudfoot.

I love you too, brother.

Dank as a world-famous musician ??? Let's get him to start a band, with Trendon Shavers on the drums, Patrick Harnett and Chang Noir on bass, hashking on the vocals. Nefario on keybard. Tihan Seale can be the manager, interango trio as backup dancers.  :D


hahaHA. dankm the "artiste". I can only find Untitled 63-108. Imagine the value of dankmusic Untitled (1-62)!



That dank becomes one of the most famous musicians in the world, or that BitcoinMax makes its payouts, which one is more likely?


Author: Rarity    Topic: Buying Bitcoin Max Accounts at Discount


There are a lot of fruitcakes on this forum, but Rarity is the fruitiest of all.

the dark
the wet
lies again
excuses. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.msg1268821#msg1268821)

He's a very good actor. In the video linked below, he dies quite well I think. Admittedly I haven't seen him die in other TV shows, but I bet he's just as good.

http://youtu.be/WSfFlDs1F6M

Action starts at 1:08 and finishes a few seconds later.

So why doesn't dank have a scammer tag yet? It's clear to any reasonable person that dank did not fulfill his end of the deal and misrepresented the product that was delivered.

Uh, no, I made the song.  I never agreed to use her tab.

this is not how songs work

Okay, lets label Jimi Hendrix a scammer because he didn't play the Star Spangled Banner properly.

The whole problem is that you think that what he did is the same as you do.
It takes a non-tonedeaf person to know the difference.

Maybe you can ask him some tips when you asstrally project to the 'other' reality, huh?

Are the Butthole Surfers scammers because they didn't play "American Woman" properly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reeOOA4Ha7M

Anybody who remixed a song must be a scammer because they changed the lyrics.  Makes sense.

Hey, they have a rhythm and their guitar is tuned.
So at least you can call this music.
 ::)

If you believe that having rhythm and being guitar based is necessary for music to not be labelled a "scam" then do you consider John Cage's 4'33" a "scam"?

Or would I be a committing a scam if I did a cover of 4'33" which wasn't quite as silent as Cage's? Or that anyone's performance of this piece that is not absolutely silent is a scam?

Music is whatever the creator says it is. If you don't like it, so be it. But don't call it a scam. Commissioning works of art is always a gamble, and the only right a patron should have is withholding payment if it's not what they wanted.

The difference, Dank, is that when he played it PEOPLE COULD TELL WHAT SONG IT WAS!  Which is the complete oposite of what happens when you 'play'.

Sounds like a problem on your end, sounds like the song to me.

You're a fool who's too lazy to read other posts, MildBill. Stop reproducing old arguments and either address the current discussion or come up with a new argument. You're wrecking the fun.

I was saying it because both rhythm and tuning are forms of structure.
One of the most basic definitions of music is that it is structured sound. Not a lot of structure in Danks sound...

btw i never talked about a scam.
I was just describing the facts of what Dank calls music.
And i cannot call it music by any reasonable definition except his own.
You can call a twig a tree, but that doesn't make it so.
But if he can find people that want to buy it then that is his right as long as people understand what they can expect. Otherwise i would call it scamming.

You did agree to provide a custom beat for 420, though, and then failed to do so because you "didn't have time".

Either you're outright lying when you say you're going to do stuff or you say you're going to do shit having no idea of what's involved and then when you find it's beyond your capabilities you come up with lame and transparent excuses about why you didn't do what you said you were going to do.  Your world's biggest music festival crap will be no exception - you're actively lying when you say it's going to happen this year and you know it.  And if actively lying about what you're going to do doesn't make you a scammer then I don't know what does.

And he didn't pay me for it.  It's not like he contracted me.

The more often you say you're going to do shit and give weasel excuses for not following through, the more you look like a compulsive liar rather than just an idealistic 18 year old who doesn't have a clue about how how much effort is involved in making your dreams a reality.

You have no clue how much effort I put into things.

Well that is even more pathetic, because clearly your best isn't good enough.

You're not going to be a famous musician. You aren't going to be a famous anything.

You're a nobody, a complete non-entity. When you die, you will turn to dust and soon after everyone will have forgotten that you ever existed.

You're nothing. Just like your father.

Well why don't you enlighten us regarding what effort you've put into the world's biggest ever musical festival so far?  How many artists have you signed up?  Where's it going to be held?  Have you found contractors to build the stage?  Organised the sound equipment and people to operate it?  Is the laser equipment booked yet?  How many portable toilets have you ordered?  Who will be providing security? 

Something must have made you suddenly too busy to put together a custom beat.  Why don't you tell us what it was?

He had to fly to England to convince Jim Morrison's former roadie to help him put on the greatest show that Aurora, Illinois has ever seen.

lol, that's a little harsh. Relatively speaking, dank is semi-famous in bitcoin securities and lending. More than can be said about you, CharlieContent!

dank will surely find success somewhere between the hookah bar, the weed growing op, and his musical aspirations. Somebody get this guy some adderall from SR for his ADD!

Really though, dank just needs a better pitch for his HYIP. Why not stick with the tried and true "market arbitration"? How did the sex change pitch work out for that transsexual guy? Maybe team up with herm..

I think dank porn is something we can probably all live without.

I feel I must disagree with you simply based on our names. ;)

Being famous on an obscure forum dedicated to an obscure internet money system populated by geeks and scammers is not saying very much. Just look at who else is famous: Atlas, MatthewNWright, Pirate. Not good company to keep.

Dank will never find success because he does not have the attention span and drive needed to accomplish anything. Even taking drugs he would not have the motivation and skills needed to amount to anything.

It is not obscure!  ;). The good wife, Forbes, Reuters, The Economist, Wired.. hell, the magazine rack at Barnes & Noble!

dank is the third biggest brand following right behind bitcoin, then pirate. The time is ripe to start his own alt-chain dedicated to the dank economy. dankcoin, dankmusic and dankporn, here we come!

Hey now, I honestly think if Dank went back on his meds he might actually be able to acomplish something.  If nothing else, his parents would probably loosen up the old purse strings!

I've never taken pharmaceuticals and I don't intend to.

WTF! I voted for you under the assumption you do partake. And you call yourself a budding rock star. It's common knowledge that all rock stars have enjoyed drugs at least once in their life. What next? You've never masterbated either? Shame on you!

~Cackling Bear~

Pharmaceuticals are horrible excuses for drugs compared to Mother nature.  Weed cures all.

It sure cured bob marley...

And Carl Sagan.

Yeah, why take well understood, well defined, purified and measured chemicals when instead you can opt for the unknown coctails of chemicals in unknown amounts mixed with known carcinogens!

Legal or illegal they both are have there dangers. Pills are a epidemic in the united states, why buy heroin off the street when you can go to the doctor for a back ache, and then get your gov to pay for it still. It has come to the point that they made anti crush pills.... Does that stop them no, they smoke them. They make pills you can not smoke, what do they do take a nail file and file the coating off of them. People die from pills all the time. I had a friend that got caught up in the pill world, she was getting methadone form the clinic to stop. But she ended up selling some to a Marine that died of a O.D she spent 1 year in prison for invol manslaughter charges. We are prescribing the problem to people and it needs to stop.

Brave new world...

Pharmaceuticals are nothing more than treatments.  I prefer to cure my sickness at the source, my soul.

I assume you won't be using any antibiotics, analgesics or anaesthetics throughout your life then.  Good luck with that.  Your statement reeks of First World privilege.  But hey, lets not worry about trying to get modern medicine to those millions of people in developing countries for whom you feel so much empathy - let's teach them how to mend their souls instead just like countless generations of missionaries have done for hundreds of years.  ::)

It's just spirituality, whatever you believe is true, I believe sickness is created within the soul.  And I believe this because it has played true in my life.

Sickness is created by using products not meant for human consumption/use

Those pesky bacteria, parasites and viruses have nothing to do with it.

Oh they're in the pickled pigs feet

Amazingly enough, I absolutely agree with you Dank.  Your soul is extremely sick.

Wait till you are older to say that. What are you 18 ? Once you get past 30 shit falls over and your body cant heal as well as it used too.

It doesn't change that it's still from your soul.  Your mind creates your reality.

Then why are you not successful yet?

I am.  Are you meaning to say why am I not a successful musician in 2 months rather than 4?

You do realize that you're talking about a compulsive liar who thinks he can out-do Woodstock with zero knowledge, experience, or connections.  How he's managed to escape the scammer tag after breaking numerous promised deals is baffling.

When did I lie?  What deals did I break?

Well, you did kinda claim you were going to open a hookah bar.  Remember that?

This thread should be renamed to

;D

And yet, Rarity was right.

Was he? Tell me more...

This thread is extremely important!

Yes, Rarity was clearly right.  It's somewhat inexplicable dank has escaped the scammer tag here.  According to reviewing what occurred, dank solicited Rarity to take part in this agreement.  He proposed it and Rarity agreed.  Why an individual should be allowed to go around proposing deals with people, asking them to swear to agree in writing, and then breaking the deal despite all this is bizarre.

dank's defense appears to be a Matthew Wright style of intentionally misreading the agreement in a manner no reasonable individual ever would.  That an individual asking for a well known tune, and providing sheet music to illustrate it further, was agreeing to receive a collection of random screeching sounds does not pass the smell test.  That any musician would think the song played was the one requested is also not believable.

In fact, dank admits to intentionally sabotaging the song here out of spite, which any musician knows would make it unrecognizable:


This is akin to a painter agreeing in writing to paint a house red, and instead painting a giant red penis on it out of spite and later claiming no breach of contract because the contract was not specific enough.  No reasonable person would side with the painter.

That the song was not actually the requested song is not a matter of subjectivity, I have fed it into the music identifying service "Shazam" and it has failed to identify it as the song in question. 

dank proposed an arrangement contingent on his delivery of song, he delivered a product he knew to be fraudulent and intentionally sabotaged in an attempt to pass it off as genuine to receive payment.  A scam attempt, clearly.  That he has not received the tag is baffling to me.  It is also baffling that he is allowed to derail this serious discussion with discussions of spiritual healing and drugs while the wronged party is apparently being mocked by individuals such as Psy for some reason.

Did I miss something? Rarity got banned?
Links please!

It's not inexplicable.  Rarity was under attack by the moderators for criticizing Theymos so of course they aren't going to hold anyone responsible for blatantly scamming her.  dank just got lucky here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118154.0

They unbanned Atlas, and haven't taken action on Dank.  It just goes to show you what the moderating staff think about these forums.

You trolls are so silly.

You're the one who thinks people believe your bullshit - who's the silly one?  I can't wait until 4chan discovers that you exist.

I know plenty of people that agree with my philosophies.  It's because they're true.

Dank, you can't count your 'headmates' as people who agree with you.

This is a blatant attempt to distract from the accusations leveled against him with random nonsense, it's not worth engaging.

I agree.  Now what do we need to do to get Dank his Scammer tag that he's clearly earned?

What accusations?  The joke by Rarity complaining my version of Mary's little lamb wasn't good enough?  Not my problem, I liked the way it sounded and think it represented realistic feelings in this scenario.

As I said, the part where you proposed a deal, intentionally did not perform as agreed (admitted sabotage), and tried to pass off a sabotaged product as fulfilling the agreement in an attempt to receive payment.  No matter what distracting tactics you attempt to try and turn this into some discussion of spirituality or drugs, it is clear that you are a scammer. 

How many accounts does this rarity person have?

I'd be more interested in knowing how many accounts dank has.

Invest anything in his concert, I guess...

2.

Isn't that the same number of depositors your 'bank' has?

I would be more inclined to deposit with someone that said... I buy drugs off SR and sell them IRL... :D

Dank Bank has had 8.  I think anyone with a brain cell knows which other account is mine.

You really had 8 guys persuaded to entrust you money?
I am amazed.

Dank is just a Something Awful troll.  There is no reason to trust anything he says.

https://i.imgur.com/fFopJ.jpg

No, that's what you, Rarity, fgervais, and the multitudes of other haters are.

When you understand my philosophy it is nothing to be surprised of.  I have bright ideas and some people can see the truth in them.

Are they visions, dank?

I have no idea which other account is Dank's. I have at least one brain cell. Therefore, Dank is lying again.

In all reality, I just don't care enought to try to figure out who else is Dank.

It's pretty obvious what the other account is when you consider it. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43081)

Lolz Dank just talks to himself :P

Thats a business plan at least. A lot more profitable than bitcoin mining.

Yeah, it's definitely not DankGlass!

Are you admitting that you lied when you said that you'd abandoned DankGlass and that someone paid you to use the logo?  That would bring bad karma, dank.

Since when is paraphernalia illegal?  Last time I was in Michigan I swear they had head shops...


Canada is covered in them........ I think the post above belongs to a butt hurt little pony....

This silly.  However, by the moderators own rules, a serious investigation is needed.  And an outcome should be published. 

If the moderators don't follow their own rules of the "Scam Accusation" sub group, it will be because they dislike the OP.   Anyway, if the OP wanted to prove a point, that the moderators have their own agenda & bias...   Unfortunately, we might be waiting forever.  So I have to ask, does a non-response really confirm that point?

If the moderators want to prove they are un-biased, this would seem to be a slam-dunk....otherwise this should serve as a warning to all newbies, bitcointalk.org a dangerous place, where no one can be held accountable for their actions.

Would you guys give this absolute nonsense a rest? Pretty please?

Well we were about to ignore this completely, but then you went and bumped the thread, so now everybody has to post more.

To keep things on topic, has Dank ever successfully brought an idea to fruition on this forum? Maybe instead of a scammer tag he should just get a "loser with big ideas" tag?

be nice.

Yes please, both counts. a) Be nice and b) don't touch this thread ever again. It's a steaming pile o' crap, like most of Rarity's threads and posts.

I agree, even though the starter of the topic is unpopular, that should be no reason to ignore a claim.

Moderators have no such responsibility, however it is nice of them to help in identifying them.
Their responsibility is to maintain order, you are supposed to do your own due diligence. Usually it is not worth sending money for something that sounds too good to be true. I myself have had to learn this lesson twice, 2nd time was from this forum.