Title: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 07:58:55 AM We are a group of traders who operates mostly in Europe and Asia and we have been doing this 10+ years. We are dealing with a wide range of products We already have a group of customers even though we are always looking for new customers to work with. We are now looking for investors who wants to be a part of something new in the bitcoin market. For this we are paying you between 4,5% interest per week. If you deposit more then 100BTC we will give you 5,5%.. 500BTC and up and you will get 7% interest/week!!!!!! This is possible to achieve because of our already existing network of dealers and buyers which allows us to make faster deals with them and therefore earn extra profit. We need these funds for 3 purposes, which are 1. we are expanding. 2. We want lower prices from our suppliers so we are increasing our stock and getting better wholesale prices. 3 we want to use bitcoin both as a payment method for our customers and for transferring money through some trouble some countries(like India, Vietnam, Burma, etc). I will also be selling some of our products for members on bitcointalk. The products I will be selling here are. All these products are from India if not mentioned otherwise. Green tea white tea Coffee * out of stock Fresh vanilla beams Saffron Cardamom Cashew nuts * out of stock Blue sapphire(neelam, ceylon, mogok) *new stock available soon Red ruby (both Indian and Burmese) *new stock available soon Pearls (sweet water and saltwater) *out of stock Sales of bonds for banyan investments are now open. The intent is to raise funds for expansion of current project. The rules are found here. - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 1 project period.(8-12 weeks) - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals, deposits, opening and closing accounts are only made in between the projects. (your BTC will be locked between 8-12 weeks) - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. This will be changed soon when I have a better idea. - Our current weekly interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. To become a part of this you will have to PM or E-mail me at banyan@hushmail.me . I will reply with some initial information and instructions of how to proceed. Fat text means recent changes in contract. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 11:43:56 AM Please guys come up with questions and advice.. How should I write the contract so everybody gets happy?
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Akka on October 20, 2012, 11:49:56 AM Sure, I absolutely believe this is a serious offer. ::)
But just for the fun of it: Proof of Identity? Proof of existence of the company? Official statement of the company? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 01:38:04 PM No proof of company. Never said anything about a registered company. It says "group of traders"
But I guess it will be a company in about same manners as most other companies in bitcoin world. You will have a statement ready on Monday when we start accepting deposits or I would want to call it a contract.. I am setting this up now so those who are interested will have a chance to contribute to making a safe contract for all parties. Proof of identity? Sure I could do it, but I guess I am risking to get in trouble with some government officials the same way like pirateat40 and GLBSE.. So I am not sure how to solve this problem. Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers? In which way does it not sound serious to you?? Please tell me what you are wondering about and I will try to answer. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Akka on October 20, 2012, 01:48:51 PM In which way does it not sound serious to you?? Please tell me what you are wondering about and I will try to answer. In the case that this is probably just a pirateat40 parody. No proof of company. Never said anything about a registered company. It says "group of traders" But I guess it will be a company in about same manners as most other companies in bitcoin world. You will have a statement ready on Monday when we start accepting deposits or I would want to call it a contract.. I am setting this up now so those who are interested will have a chance to contribute to making a safe contract for all parties. Proof of identity? Sure I could do it, but I guess I am risking to get in trouble with some government officials the same way like pirateat40 and GLBSE.. So I am not sure how to solve this problem. Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers? You don't expect that anyone is giving you money, especially huge amounts (500 BTC!) without exactly knowing who you are and how to reach you, don't you. Also, answer this one Questin, you could get a Credit at <10% a Year, why do you want to pay up to 7% a Week. Feeling generous? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: HDSolar on October 20, 2012, 01:51:34 PM Ok, so my first question with everyone is what is it about 7% and these ops? Why not advertise 5% or 10%, I find it odd that 7% is popular number.
Now one comment was the "Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers", look that is not a strong comment back and I understand your point about identity but really who are you and why would I invest. This just seems to be another trust me deal and right now I think the trust market is a bit low in the bitcoin world. I would feel better if their was a site with a mission statement and some logic to investing in the op versus there will be a contract and it is a group of traders in Europe and Asia. Good luck Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: HDSolar on October 20, 2012, 01:55:32 PM Magic number, I love that. Basically if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BlackHeartFund on October 20, 2012, 02:22:30 PM Quote How should I write the contract so everybody gets happy? ahahaha a love it!! Just sign a blank piece of paper, and put out your wallet addresses. People will make up their own terms, and they'll be worth exactly as much as if you had written them. Everyone gets rich! Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 02:30:32 PM In which way does it not sound serious to you?? Please tell me what you are wondering about and I will try to answer. In the case that this is probably just a pirateat40 parody. No proof of company. Never said anything about a registered company. It says "group of traders" But I guess it will be a company in about same manners as most other companies in bitcoin world. You will have a statement ready on Monday when we start accepting deposits or I would want to call it a contract.. I am setting this up now so those who are interested will have a chance to contribute to making a safe contract for all parties. Proof of identity? Sure I could do it, but I guess I am risking to get in trouble with some government officials the same way like pirateat40 and GLBSE.. So I am not sure how to solve this problem. Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers? You don't expect that anyone is giving you money, especially huge amounts (500 BTC!) without exactly knowing who you are and how to reach you, don't you. Also, answer this one Questin, you could get a Credit at <10% a Year, why do you want to pay up to 7% a Week. Feeling generous? Ok first of all I am not really expecting anyone to invest on the 7% interest level. it is more of a extra commercial for this operation. 7% because of this is the highest one I have seen here and it fits well in my calculations in case of someone wish to invest on this level. So because of the high interest I will have to keep a high minimum deposit. I know the identity is a problem I guess. I mean I have no problem with showing my identity to my investors. But I do not want it to be shared with any third parties. I am really not up to getting in to legal problems. And about credit, I doubt any bank would give me a loan in my sort of business. The loans I use now are private loans for a percentage of my profit. Not much unlike a weekly dividend system. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: LiteBit on October 20, 2012, 02:39:14 PM Can you see any solutions? Stop while you're ahead Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 02:44:12 PM Ok, so my first question with everyone is what is it about 7% and these ops? Why not advertise 5% or 10%, I find it odd that 7% is popular number. Now one comment was the "Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers", look that is not a strong comment back and I understand your point about identity but really who are you and why would I invest. This just seems to be another trust me deal and right now I think the trust market is a bit low in the bitcoin world. I would feel better if their was a site with a mission statement and some logic to investing in the op versus there will be a contract and it is a group of traders in Europe and Asia. Good luck 7% interest is the highest I have seen in bitcoin world, and I know I can pay it with good marginals. I am mainly focusing on the lower levels but I wanted to put 7% for the best customers. And advertising 7% is definitely better then 5%. It wasn't meant as a comment back, more of question. I am not sure of what you are asking, I can give you a personal resume if you want, and tell more about me if that's what you are asking about..? I know I am new here and all that, but it does not mean my idea is good and will work well. I understand people have trust issues with ventures which offer you high return of interest and I will try to answer all questions which you ask me. I am not sure what else I can do for my credibility at this moment. Site is coming up as soon. Have a few problems to solve with it but hopefully in 1 week or so. Site will contain just short general info and a login page where member can log in, see some pictures of the goods and check their accounts. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: LiteBit on October 20, 2012, 03:12:11 PM I am not sure of what you are asking, I can give you a personal resume if you want, and tell more about me if that's what you are asking about..? I know I am new here and all that, but it does not mean my idea is good and will work well. I understand people have trust issues with ventures which offer you high return of interest and I will try to answer all questions which you ask me. I am not sure what else I can do for my credibility at this moment. Site is coming up as soon. Have a few problems to solve with it but hopefully in 1 week or so. Site will contain just short general info and a login page where member can log in, see some pictures of the goods and check their accounts. My observations: So you wrote the OP to make it sound like your group of traders have been around and doing this for a while ...We are a group of traders who operates mostly in Europe and Asia and we have been doing this 10+ years. We are dealing with a wide range of products as valuable stones, spices(saffron, vanilla,etc),(green, white) tea and coffee, etc. We already have a group of customers even though we are always looking for new customers to work with. ...We need these funds for 3 purposes, which are 1. we are expanding. 2. We want lower prices from our suppliers so we are increasing our stock and getting better wholesale prices. 3 we want to use bitcoin both as a payment method for our customers and for transferring money through some trouble some countries(like India). Your list of 3 reasons for needing the funds strengthens this fact. Especially you #2 reason which implies you already have a supply, you just want to expand it to get better rates. So we (as potential investors) see red flags when you state you are building a website yet somehow you have a supply, wholesaler relationships and customers established. How do you sell your products now? Brick & mortar, newspaper, eBay, Craigslist, word of mouth? If it is by an e commerce site then link that here. Tell us how you do business currently. We see red flags when it's starting to sound so hard to provide more company details such as identity. Post wholesaler companies, post customers, post invoices... Something. We see red flags when in your own words you worry about federal involvement like what happened to pirateat40 or GLBSE. By stating this yourself you are linking your business model to those 2 recent failures. I would advise you not to do that if you want to be viewed as legitimate. Plus, why would you fear any heat from the higher powers? You are a trading company in tea and stones. Why the anxiety? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 06:26:03 PM I am not sure of what you are asking, I can give you a personal resume if you want, and tell more about me if that's what you are asking about..? I know I am new here and all that, but it does not mean my idea is good and will work well. I understand people have trust issues with ventures which offer you high return of interest and I will try to answer all questions which you ask me. I am not sure what else I can do for my credibility at this moment. Site is coming up as soon. Have a few problems to solve with it but hopefully in 1 week or so. Site will contain just short general info and a login page where member can log in, see some pictures of the goods and check their accounts. My observations: So you wrote the OP to make it sound like your group of traders have been around and doing this for a while ...We are a group of traders who operates mostly in Europe and Asia and we have been doing this 10+ years. We are dealing with a wide range of products as valuable stones, spices(saffron, vanilla,etc),(green, white) tea and coffee, etc. We already have a group of customers even though we are always looking for new customers to work with. ...We need these funds for 3 purposes, which are 1. we are expanding. 2. We want lower prices from our suppliers so we are increasing our stock and getting better wholesale prices. 3 we want to use bitcoin both as a payment method for our customers and for transferring money through some trouble some countries(like India). Your list of 3 reasons for needing the funds strengthens this fact. Especially you #2 reason which implies you already have a supply, you just want to expand it to get better rates. So we (as potential investors) see red flags when you state you are building a website yet somehow you have a supply, wholesaler relationships and customers established. How do you sell your products now? Brick & mortar, newspaper, eBay, Craigslist, word of mouth? If it is by an e commerce site then link that here. Tell us how you do business currently. We see red flags when it's starting to sound so hard to provide more company details such as identity. Post wholesaler companies, post customers, post invoices... Something. We see red flags when in your own words you worry about federal involvement like what happened to pirateat40 or GLBSE. By stating this yourself you are linking your business model to those 2 recent failures. I would advise you not to do that if you want to be viewed as legitimate. Plus, why would you fear any heat from the higher powers? You are a trading company in tea and stones. Why the anxiety? This job is nothing I am trying to do over internet except for something smaller here on bitcointalk if somebody wants something. Ofc I could but I have not tried. For my part this is all about connections and networks we have built up during the years. Sometimes people tip us off about restaurants and coffeeshops for spices etc. and jeweliers for selling stones. Sometimes we get these connections from other traders. Same goes with buyers. Also I ask around in bigger cities I visit. Good quality rare stones are easy to sell and make a nice profit from. This is how my plan looks like right now(and most times quite similar modus operandi) In about 1 week I will arrive to Goa in India for staying there for a while and meet my supplier for sapphires and also look for some crystals and pearls if he found all I asked for. I already have 150ct of blue sapphires between 2-8ct from Cambodia, but I need some more of Kashmir sapphires too. My stone supplier is from Srinagar, Kashmir where he cuts the stones before coming to south India to sell them, a Russian stone trader gave me this contact for a year ago and I am extremely happy for that, ofc I gave something back to the russki. Right after that I will go to Bombays masjid district to see my spice guy and coffee/tea supplier, to buy mainly saffron and white tea, which are both very exclusive and expensive. 2-3 kg of white tea for Europe and Thailand and about 1 kg saffron. Everything else tea/coffee/spice is just for keeping my customers happy, not so much profit on the other products. Then back to Goa for sending some of the products to Europe and Thailand and to start preparing to go to Indonesia and sell of the stones to my buyer there who knows half Jakarta and is always short on stones.. After this I celebrate and start prepping for the next trip. This is the way it looks for us who are in these sort of businesses.. We are not a registered company, at least not for now. If this goes well we might register and continue the same thing but then with lower dividends because of taxes and other fees. I would normally not be afraid of higher powers, but now if that I am offering bonds to you, I am a afraid mostly because of I don't know the rules, and that there have been previous problems. I have nothing against giving my identity to my customers or even meet some of them, for as long I can be sure of my ID is not revealed to third party. I hope I answered some of your questions. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BitLucky on October 20, 2012, 06:45:06 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'(
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 06:52:16 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BitLucky on October 20, 2012, 07:01:09 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Your ridiculous proposal/scam and the sad fact that it might actually work... Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 20, 2012, 07:03:04 PM For this we are paying you between 4,5% interest per week. If you deposit more then 100BTC we will give you 5,5%.. 500BTC and up and you will get the magic number 7%!!!!!! 986% to 3372% APR? Nah, couldn't be a ponzi.... ;D Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Akka on October 20, 2012, 07:06:21 PM well I 've got my coins stolen from BITCOINICA... no more trusting... Now I need to make sum new coins.. ??? You really need that long to came up with the Idea of just stealing the coins? Wow, not very creative. Sorry for stalking you, but after reading your older post I'm 100% sure this is either a joke, or a scam. Come on, think of something more believable and than try again under a different username. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BitLucky on October 20, 2012, 07:15:14 PM well I 've got my coins stolen from BITCOINICA... no more trusting... Now I need to make sum new coins.. ??? You really need that long to came up with the Idea of just stealing the coins? Wow, not very creative. Sorry for stalking you, but after reading your older post I'm 100% sure this is either a joke, or a scam. Come on, think of something more believable and than try again under a different username. Brilliant find! Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 07:52:19 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Your ridiculous proposal/scam and the sad fact that it might actually work... The only thing sad here is you. Who made you a judge of what is scam and what is not? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: LiteBit on October 20, 2012, 07:57:15 PM Akka +1
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 08:05:30 PM For this we are paying you between 4,5% interest per week. If you deposit more then 100BTC we will give you 5,5%.. 500BTC and up and you will get the magic number 7%!!!!!! 986% to 3372% APR? Nah, couldn't be a ponzi.... ;D Naah, not like this my friend. I will not allow too much deposits, I can not handle too much BTC volume and I am definitely not willing to pay dividends for bitcoins which are not in use, that would obv become too expensive. So a more realistic scenario is that you make a deposit, and I will not let you deposit more until the current operation is finished and the new op is starting. this way your annual interest will be max 364% if you would not re deposit in between the ops. And I can tell you 364% is not a biggie in this business. Each one of my main products gives me more profit then this already.. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 20, 2012, 08:11:42 PM well I 've got my coins stolen from BITCOINICA... no more trusting... Now I need to make sum new coins.. ??? You really need that long to came up with the Idea of just stealing the coins? Wow, not very creative. Sorry for stalking you, but after reading your older post I'm 100% sure this is either a joke, or a scam. Come on, think of something more believable and than try again under a different username. Wow what a great detective you are.. ;D So you think I have been planning this since June because of I lost some 5 bitcoins or so.. Don't over heat your brain.. Which part of this is not believable? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vandroiy on October 20, 2012, 08:22:31 PM You're doing it wrong. :P
Also, where's that quote where Pirate said his market will be saturated after he's done... post detectives, to the rescue! :P Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 21, 2012, 12:15:36 AM Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 21, 2012, 12:17:55 AM no big surprise, but I made good profit on all this :) More ponzis please.. ::) Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 21, 2012, 12:51:12 AM 7% per week, eh?
Hmm...where have I seen that before...ohhhh that's right, I think Pirate had the same idea (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83590.0). Obvious ponzi is obvious. And don't try to change our minds. If you had a way to pull 4.5% or more per week you could flip $100 to $1,000 in a year (assuming compounding). With that math, you can flip $100 to a cool million in 4 years. How kind of you to share your methods with us ::) Unfortunately, welcome to the forums, where stupid people are everywhere and will trust you with thousands of their bitcoins :-\ Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: DoomDumas on October 21, 2012, 03:23:28 AM How can someone gives BTC to this ? Must be really disoriented or wishing to lose wealth ! Cannot figure out why peoples are still getting trap in SO OBVIOUS Ponzi !
Unbelivable. Anyone are willing to bet on BetsOfBitco.in for the date it will default ?? PM me, I'll bet ! Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 06:05:48 AM PLEASE do not pollute this thread with your conspiracy theories.. Open up a new thread in scam accusations if you need to.
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 21, 2012, 01:44:20 PM For this we are paying you between 4,5% interest per week. If you deposit more then 100BTC we will give you 5,5%.. 500BTC and up and you will get the magic number 7%!!!!!! 986% to 3372% APR? Nah, couldn't be a ponzi.... ;D Naah, not like this my friend. I will not allow too much deposits, I can not handle too much BTC volume and I am definitely not willing to pay dividends for bitcoins which are not in use, that would obv become too expensive. So a more realistic scenario is that you make a deposit, and I will not let you deposit more until the current operation is finished and the new op is starting. this way your annual interest will be max 364% if you would not re deposit in between the ops. And I can tell you 364% is not a biggie in this business. Each one of my main products gives me more profit then this already.. So you are limiting early deposits? That's another sign of a ponzi my friend (#8). You have quite a few of them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100696.0 Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: HDSolar on October 21, 2012, 01:55:53 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( +1Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 21, 2012, 03:28:21 PM PLEASE do not pollute this thread with your conspiracy theories.. Open up a new thread in scam accusations if you need to. The Scam Accusation forum is where we accuse people after their scam. The securities thread is where we warn people not to invest in you. And it's not a conspiracy when it's true...because you haven't shown any evidence to the contrary. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BitcoinINV on October 21, 2012, 03:36:44 PM Walks like a duck? Talks like a duck? Has go to be a golden goose! There is some bitcion philosophy for you lol
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 07:04:47 PM PLEASE do not pollute this thread with your conspiracy theories.. Open up a new thread in scam accusations if you need to. The Scam Accusation forum is where we accuse people after their scam. The securities thread is where we warn people not to invest in you. And it's not a conspiracy when it's true...because you haven't shown any evidence to the contrary. I see you have your own investment project going on, afraid of competition or what? What is true? what evidence do I have to show you? Who are you to judge anyone here or anywhere else? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 07:13:40 PM How can someone gives BTC to this ? Must be really disoriented or wishing to lose wealth ! Cannot figure out why peoples are still getting trap in SO OBVIOUS Ponzi ! Unbelivable. Anyone are willing to bet on BetsOfBitco.in for the date it will default ?? PM me, I'll bet ! are you trying to promote a betting site in my thread? a bit ugly :/ Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 07:15:38 PM For this we are paying you between 4,5% interest per week. If you deposit more then 100BTC we will give you 5,5%.. 500BTC and up and you will get the magic number 7%!!!!!! 986% to 3372% APR? Nah, couldn't be a ponzi.... ;D Naah, not like this my friend. I will not allow too much deposits, I can not handle too much BTC volume and I am definitely not willing to pay dividends for bitcoins which are not in use, that would obv become too expensive. So a more realistic scenario is that you make a deposit, and I will not let you deposit more until the current operation is finished and the new op is starting. this way your annual interest will be max 364% if you would not re deposit in between the ops. And I can tell you 364% is not a biggie in this business. Each one of my main products gives me more profit then this already.. So you are limiting early deposits? That's another sign of a ponzi my friend (#8). You have quite a few of them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100696.0 And a decent explanation to it.. Would be worse to accept too much funds when I know there's limits of what I can handle.. :/ Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: 01BTC10 on October 21, 2012, 07:53:16 PM Not sure if serious or Trendon Shavers.
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 21, 2012, 08:49:00 PM Naah, not like this my friend. I will not allow too much deposits, I can not handle too much BTC volume and I am definitely not willing to pay dividends for bitcoins which are not in use, that would obv become too expensive. So a more realistic scenario is that you make a deposit, and I will not let you deposit more until the current operation is finished and the new op is starting. this way your annual interest will be max 364% if you would not re deposit in between the ops. And I can tell you 364% is not a biggie in this business. Each one of my main products gives me more profit then this already.. So you are limiting early deposits? That's another sign of a ponzi my friend (#8). You have quite a few of them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100696.0 And a decent explanation to it.. Would be worse to accept too much funds when I know there's limits of what I can handle.. :/ Ok, let's say your max payout is 364% per year like you claim. You borrow $1000, do your thing, and return $4,640 to the lender. Why wouldn't you just invest $1000 of your own money, and not give away $3,640? Let's say you get 10 people stupid enough to "invest" in you - that's 5,000BTC or approx $50,000 You are now paying out $182,000 that you wouldn't otherwise have to. You want us to believe that you have the ability to make that kind of return, but you haven't done so yet on your own because...... ..........? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 09:33:37 PM Naah, not like this my friend. I will not allow too much deposits, I can not handle too much BTC volume and I am definitely not willing to pay dividends for bitcoins which are not in use, that would obv become too expensive. So a more realistic scenario is that you make a deposit, and I will not let you deposit more until the current operation is finished and the new op is starting. this way your annual interest will be max 364% if you would not re deposit in between the ops. And I can tell you 364% is not a biggie in this business. Each one of my main products gives me more profit then this already.. So you are limiting early deposits? That's another sign of a ponzi my friend (#8). You have quite a few of them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100696.0 And a decent explanation to it.. Would be worse to accept too much funds when I know there's limits of what I can handle.. :/ Ok, let's say your max payout is 364% per year like you claim. You borrow $1000, do your thing, and return $4,640 to the lender. Why wouldn't you just invest $1000 of your own money, and not give away $3,640? Let's say you get 10 people stupid enough to "invest" in you - that's 5,000BTC or approx $50,000 You are now paying out $182,000 that you wouldn't otherwise have to. You want us to believe that you have the ability to make that kind of return, but you haven't done so yet on your own because...... ..........? We are planning to make at least 4-6 operations per year, which would mean the return back would be 60-80% for each project when completed for the investors. (correct me if I'm wrong here with my math) By using bitcoins for (most) money transfers will lower our costs. because we are now using expensive underground "hawala" transfer system when countries like India, Vietnam and Burma are involved.. very difficult to transfer money from these countries. :/ I have been making this return for a long time, but I have only been doing it in smaller quantities and once or twice a year. But these are the money I have been living from most of the time. We want to make something bigger and more professional now. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BitcoinINV on October 21, 2012, 09:35:25 PM Pablo Escobar had the same problem. But he over came it, i'm sure you will too.
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 21, 2012, 09:41:09 PM By using bitcoins for (most) money transfers will lower our costs. because we are now using expensive underground "hawala" transfer system when countries like India, Vietnam and Burma are involved.. very difficult to transfer money from these countries. :/ Sorry, but you are not going to be lowering costs by 240% - 480% (your new numbers). Your story doesn't make any sense, and the fact you don't know your own numbers is scary as hell. Make the money yourself, then transfer it to bitcoins to move it out. If you've been making those returns for a long time, you certainly have the money to do this yourself. You want us to believe you are some sort of godly saint that is giving this community a chance to become rich at your expense just because. You and dank will probably become life long karma friends. :) Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 21, 2012, 09:47:15 PM I see you have your own investment project going on, afraid of competition or what? What is true? what evidence do I have to show you? Who are you to judge anyone here or anywhere else? BWAHAHA there's no competition here. I'm running a Mining Fund, you're running a Ponzi :P My friend, there are a number of differences between what you're trying to do and what I am doing. Just to name a few.... 1. I own an actual company. 2. My information is out there for people to contact me, and I am not afraid to be known. 3. My business plan is incredibly well established, and previous, similar funds have been run quite successfully under the same model. 4. I have created formal contracts for my fund, legally binding my company (and me) with my investors. 5. My rate of return is realistic, because it's based on my own financial analysis, incorporating ASIC device predictions, future network hash rate and difficulty predictions. Oh, and I see from all of your previous posts that you're a big fan of ponzi schemes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113460.msg1225743#msg1225743) :P If you've been making those returns for a long time, you certainly have the money to do this yourself. You want us to believe you are some sort of godly saint that is giving this community a chance to become rich at your expense just because. You and dank will probably become life long karma friends. :) +1 Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 09:57:44 PM By using bitcoins for (most) money transfers will lower our costs. because we are now using expensive underground "hawala" transfer system when countries like India, Vietnam and Burma are involved.. very difficult to transfer money from these countries. :/ Sorry, but you are not going to be lowering costs by 240% - 480% (your new numbers). Your story doesn't make any sense, and the fact you don't know your own numbers is scary as hell. Make the money yourself, then transfer it to bitcoins to move it out. If you've been making those returns for a long time, you certainly have the money to do this yourself. You want us to believe you are some sort of godly saint that is giving this community a chance to become rich at your expense just because. You and dank will probably become life long karma friends. :) LOL, obviously I am not going to be able to lower my costs with with that much from money transfers, but it will make a significant difference in both speed and economy. LOL, The numbers I gave you was a quick estimation, in which way could you give a more accurate estimation when you don't know how many operations, or quantities or exact products. Would be hell of a lot scarier if I gave you exact estimations at this point.. Read the thread again if you need, I am no saint. I am trying to expand my business and implement bitcoin in to it. If I can make this to work out then we are all able to make some proper money from it. I don't know Dank but I am sure we will not be karma friends. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 21, 2012, 10:07:38 PM What you are trying to do is gain people's trust, accumulate a large amount of bitcoins, and then disappear.
Just calling it what it is. ;) Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 10:15:25 PM I see you have your own investment project going on, afraid of competition or what? What is true? what evidence do I have to show you? Who are you to judge anyone here or anywhere else? BWAHAHA there's no competition here. I'm running a Mining Fund, you're running a Ponzi :P My friend, there are a number of differences between what you're trying to do and what I am doing. Just to name a few.... 1. I own an actual company. 2. My information is out there for people to contact me, and I am not afraid to be known. 3. My business plan is incredibly well established, and previous, similar funds have been run quite successfully under the same model. 4. I have created formal contracts for my fund, legally binding my company (and me) with my investors. 5. My rate of return is realistic, because it's based on my own financial analysis, incorporating ASIC device predictions, future network hash rate and difficulty predictions. Oh, and I see from all of your previous posts that you're a big fan of ponzi schemes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113460.msg1225743#msg1225743) :P So if no competition then I understand even less why you are polluting my thread with baseless accusations and and unrelated BS, like your company. " My business plan is incredibly well established" LOL... "My rate of return is realistic, because it's based on my own financial analysis" LOL...your own analysis :) cmon.. Yes I invested in that ponzi before and happened to make some money from it... What is the problem? I have also invested money in passthroughs before, that time I lost. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 10:33:59 PM It's quite amusing to see all you ponzi/scam accusers having this laughable campaign against me.
Even though I am giving answers to your questions and doubts and you don't really have anything to come and argue with, still you guys come and whine on me.. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 21, 2012, 10:45:20 PM It's quite amusing to see all you ponzi/scam accusers having this laughable campaign against me. Even though I am giving answers to your questions and doubts and you don't really have anything to come and argue with, still you guys come and whine on me.. Seriously? Ok, I'll ask again. Why aren't you doing this yourself??? Making the money and converting it to bitcoins to move out of the country? Why are you offering to give so much of your own money to this community? Out of the goodness of your heart? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 10:56:39 PM It's quite amusing to see all you ponzi/scam accusers having this laughable campaign against me. Even though I am giving answers to your questions and doubts and you don't really have anything to come and argue with, still you guys come and whine on me.. You directly asked for it with each item in the OP :) I was wishing for valid questions, not for accusations. The people I am answering to don't really seem to care about the questions or my answers. In the next post I am just a scammer anyway.. :/ Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: 01BTC10 on October 21, 2012, 11:18:12 PM It's quite amusing to see all you ponzi/scam accusers having this laughable campaign against me. Even though I am giving answers to your questions and doubts and you don't really have anything to come and argue with, still you guys come and whine on me.. Sure, I absolutely believe this is a serious offer. ::) But just for the fun of it: Proof of Identity? Proof of existence of the company? Official statement of the company? No proof of company. Never said anything about a registered company. It says "group of traders" But I guess it will be a company in about same manners as most other companies in bitcoin world. You will have a statement ready on Monday when we start accepting deposits or I would want to call it a contract.. I am setting this up now so those who are interested will have a chance to contribute to making a safe contract for all parties. Proof of identity? Sure I could do it, but I guess I am risking to get in trouble with some government officials the same way like pirateat40 and GLBSE.. So I am not sure how to solve this problem. Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers? In which way does it not sound serious to you?? Please tell me what you are wondering about and I will try to answer. ::) Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 21, 2012, 11:23:40 PM It's quite amusing to see all you ponzi/scam accusers having this laughable campaign against me. Even though I am giving answers to your questions and doubts and you don't really have anything to come and argue with, still you guys come and whine on me.. Seriously? Ok, I'll ask again. Why aren't you doing this yourself??? Making the money and converting it to bitcoins to move out of the country? Why are you offering to give so much of your own money to this community? Out of the goodness of your heart? That is what I am trying to explain in post #39. but maybe I misunderstood your question before. Anyways, I am doing already, but now while expanding also changing transfer method to bitcoin. I could make the money myself slower, but this will give a kick into right direction so we can get our goods for better prices and keep everything going without breaks. So instead of working for some time to build decent amount of money this will be a shortcut to be able to work on the level we want to. 4,5% interest seems like a fair deal deal to me on a bond of this kind, and much easier to find investors. The 7% level is more expensive, but it would be less work also. If everything goes smooth and fast then I think these costs are affordable. Because I loose quite a bit of money in "hawala" transfers or private loans for funding. I don't think I would be interested of investing in this kind of project for lower return then that. That's why. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 21, 2012, 11:32:56 PM It's quite amusing to see all you ponzi/scam accusers having this laughable campaign against me. Even though I am giving answers to your questions and doubts and you don't really have anything to come and argue with, still you guys come and whine on me.. Sure, I absolutely believe this is a serious offer. ::) But just for the fun of it: Proof of Identity? Proof of existence of the company? Official statement of the company? No proof of company. Never said anything about a registered company. It says "group of traders" But I guess it will be a company in about same manners as most other companies in bitcoin world. You will have a statement ready on Monday when we start accepting deposits or I would want to call it a contract.. I am setting this up now so those who are interested will have a chance to contribute to making a safe contract for all parties. Proof of identity? Sure I could do it, but I guess I am risking to get in trouble with some government officials the same way like pirateat40 and GLBSE.. So I am not sure how to solve this problem. Should I also ask proof of identity from my customers? In which way does it not sound serious to you?? Please tell me what you are wondering about and I will try to answer. ::) Hahahaha nice compilation 01BTC10 ;D Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 21, 2012, 11:51:17 PM That is what I am trying to explain in post #39. but maybe I misunderstood your question before. Anyways, I am doing already, but now while expanding also changing transfer method to bitcoin. I could make the money myself slower, but this will give a kick into right direction so we can get our goods for better prices and keep everything going without breaks. So instead of working for some time to build decent amount of money this will be a shortcut to be able to work on the level we want to. So you have been getting triple digit returns for a "long time" (your words) but you have no money to invest in yourself? Oh well, I'm not going to invest any more time on this. It's a ponzi; you are sweet talking us while reaching for our purses. You should expect people to react the way they are when you come into our house and start making plans to rob us blind. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Ilikeham on October 22, 2012, 02:20:09 PM What I find really amusing is that a company by the name of Banyan Tree did a tax loan scheme here in Canada along with Rochester Financial and had their asses handed to them by the Canada Revenue Agency AND lost the class action suit in court to the people they rooked.
Seems like an appropriate name choice. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: herzmeister on October 22, 2012, 02:26:13 PM @OP are you aware that Bitcoin pseudonymity doesn't protect you from the SEC?
Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 22, 2012, 02:57:28 PM smoothie seems to be recommending and vouching for OP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25960 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119777.0 Anyone trust smoothie with money? Smoothie is not recommending or vouching for OP. Seems to me Smoothie is simply taking a jab at you, and you are falling for it. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: drekk on October 22, 2012, 03:00:48 PM After carefully analyzing this thread and incorporating some statistical Voodoo, we've come up with the official rating for this offer:
Triple dank. Thank you and good luck! Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 05:32:39 PM Naah, not like this my friend. I will not allow too much deposits, I can not handle too much BTC volume and I am definitely not willing to pay dividends for bitcoins which are not in use, that would obv become too expensive. So a more realistic scenario is that you make a deposit, and I will not let you deposit more until the current operation is finished and the new op is starting. this way your annual interest will be max 364% if you would not re deposit in between the ops. And I can tell you 364% is not a biggie in this business. Each one of my main products gives me more profit then this already.. So you are limiting early deposits? That's another sign of a ponzi my friend (#8). You have quite a few of them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100696.0 And a decent explanation to it.. Would be worse to accept too much funds when I know there's limits of what I can handle.. :/ Ok, let's say your max payout is 364% per year like you claim. You borrow $1000, do your thing, and return $4,640 to the lender. Why wouldn't you just invest $1000 of your own money, and not give away $3,640? Let's say you get 10 people stupid enough to "invest" in you - that's 5,000BTC or approx $50,000 You are now paying out $182,000 that you wouldn't otherwise have to. You want us to believe that you have the ability to make that kind of return, but you haven't done so yet on your own because...... ..........? We are planning to make at least 4-6 operations per year, which would mean the return back would be 60-80% for each project when completed for the investors. (correct me if I'm wrong here with my math) By using bitcoins for (most) money transfers will lower our costs. because we are now using expensive underground "hawala" transfer system when countries like India, Vietnam and Burma are involved.. very difficult to transfer money from these countries. :/ I have been making this return for a long time, but I have only been doing it in smaller quantities and once or twice a year. But these are the money I have been living from most of the time. We want to make something bigger and more professional now. It seems to me that if you're such an experienced jewl trader trading at such high profit you would already be filthy rich and would not need an investment from bitcoins. So can you explain why you are an experienced trader at extreme profit and still need funding despite the fact that a few trips would give you more funds than you could ever collect here? Or that you're capable of giving 7% weekly but in all those years of experience never thought of using this incredible profit to grow your own business. The things you say, they don't add up too well. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 22, 2012, 05:39:49 PM The things you say, they don't add up too well. "When people keep secrets it's usually for a reason." - John Dean ;) Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 05:52:01 PM So we are open!!! ;D Thread has been updated with loads of new info.
Please let me know if there is something in the agreement which is unclear or you would feel like to change.. (to change something I will need a alternative solution). Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: OgNasty on October 22, 2012, 06:21:13 PM Sounds legit.
So do you just give me an address and I send you all my bitcoins? Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 06:30:14 PM So do you just give me an address and I send you all my bitcoins? Until my website is up this will be the only way. You will have to PM me with a contact email you wish to use. I will send you a mail back to your address with deposit information and other info as well. Now in the beginning it may take a short while before I reply to your initial mail. Never more then 24 hours. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 06:35:00 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai since there are no rules stated about client how can the client break any rules? kthnxby Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 06:38:53 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai if you can change the contract unilaterally then it alows you to change the contract to '..and i get to keep all the btc' without breaking your rules. You have built in something that would be considered illegal under most laws. Such a contract would be invalid. kthnxby Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 06:42:19 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current weekly interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai at the current btc price even a 10btc deposit warrants an id. why the arrbitrary treshold of 500? kthnxby Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 06:47:41 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai if you can change the contract unilaterally then it alows you to change the contract to '..and i get to keep all the btc' without breaking your rules. You have built in something that would be considered illegal under most laws. Such a contract would be invalid. kthnxby The client can only break rules by disclosing my ID or other info about the projevt to third party which I or my partners consider damaging for the project. You are right about the rule.. It was meant mainly for change in interest rates and reserved for other possible problems. I was thinking if BTC fluctuates too much then I might have to do some changes in contract or other scenarios where I might have to change parts of the contract.. I will change it, do you have any suggestions. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 06:50:35 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai if you can change the contract unilaterally then it alows you to change the contract to '..and i get to keep all the btc' without breaking your rules. You have built in something that would be considered illegal under most laws. Such a contract would be invalid. kthnxby The client can only break rules by disclosing my ID or other info about the projevt to third party which I or my partners consider damaging for the project. You are right about the rule.. It was meant mainly for change in interest rates and reserved for other possible problems. I was thinking if BTC fluctuates too much then I might have to do some changes in contract or other scenarios where I might have to change parts of the contract.. I will change it, do you have any suggestions. Specifiy the cases where you want to give yourself the power to unilaterally change the contract. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: sgravina on October 22, 2012, 06:53:42 PM ... I will also be selling some of our products for members on bitcointalk. The products I will be selling here are. All these products are from India if not mentioned otherwise. Saffron ... How much for the Saffron? Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 06:58:12 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai if you can change the contract unilaterally then it alows you to change the contract to '..and i get to keep all the btc' without breaking your rules. You have built in something that would be considered illegal under most laws. Such a contract would be invalid. kthnxby The client can only break rules by disclosing my ID or other info about the projevt to third party which I or my partners consider damaging for the project. You are right about the rule.. It was meant mainly for change in interest rates and reserved for other possible problems. I was thinking if BTC fluctuates too much then I might have to do some changes in contract or other scenarios where I might have to change parts of the contract.. I will change it, do you have any suggestions. Specifiy the cases where you want to give yourself the power to unilaterally change the contract. One such case would be if bitcoin suddenly rallied to say 20$ or so, and I have a big part of the funds invested, then I might have to change interest rates for a shorter period for not going bankrupt. Also for events which I have not thought of yet, where people could misuse parts of the contract to damage the project. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 07:01:09 PM ... I will also be selling some of our products for members on bitcointalk. The products I will be selling here are. All these products are from India if not mentioned otherwise. Saffron ... How much for the Saffron? The Saffron is always of highest quality from Kashmir. I will be selling this for 5$/gram for people in this forum. If you are looking for larger quantities you will get a much better price. Wholesale prices I will only discuss per Email. EDIT: I will also have to charge for transport :/ Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: BitLucky on October 22, 2012, 07:02:55 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Still fear some idiots will invest :( Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 07:10:01 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai if you can change the contract unilaterally then it alows you to change the contract to '..and i get to keep all the btc' without breaking your rules. You have built in something that would be considered illegal under most laws. Such a contract would be invalid. kthnxby The client can only break rules by disclosing my ID or other info about the projevt to third party which I or my partners consider damaging for the project. You are right about the rule.. It was meant mainly for change in interest rates and reserved for other possible problems. I was thinking if BTC fluctuates too much then I might have to do some changes in contract or other scenarios where I might have to change parts of the contract.. I will change it, do you have any suggestions. Specifiy the cases where you want to give yourself the power to unilaterally change the contract. One such case would be if bitcoin suddenly rallied to say 20$ or so, and I have a big part of the funds invested, then I might have to change interest rates for a shorter period for not going bankrupt. Also for events which I have not thought of yet, where people could misuse parts of the contract to damage the project. If you do not specifie all cases in your contract then it is pointless. BTC will very propably rally to way above $20 within the next 6 months. You should already plan for those things and allowing yourself to just change the contract is the worst possible way of doing it. So, what happens when you default? How will things be handled? Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 07:10:48 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current weekly interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai at the current btc price even a 10btc deposit warrants an id. why the arrbitrary treshold of 500? kthnxby because of this is not a regged company, just a private project at the moment. And I have seen that some government agencies have been working their magic on some other projects. The question was earlier if I would reveal my ID at all and in that case how? This solution is a compromise which I consider quite fair for all parts. Those who invests on highest level are more trustworthy then people who deposits 10BTC when it comes to revealing my ID to third party. If they would reveal my ID without me breaking any rules their account will be terminated and the funds in them too. This way I am certainly sure my ID will not be revealed until IF I would break the rules.. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 22, 2012, 07:18:42 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current weekly interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai at the current btc price even a 10btc deposit warrants an id. why the arrbitrary treshold of 500? kthnxby because of this is not a regged company, just a private project at the moment. And I have seen that some government agencies have been working their magic on some other projects. The question was earlier if I would reveal my ID at all and in that case how? This solution is a compromise which I consider quite fair for all parts. Those who invests on highest level are more trustworthy then people who deposits 10BTC when it comes to revealing my ID to third party. If they would reveal my ID without me breaking any rules their account will be terminated and the funds in them too. This way I am certainly sure my ID will not be revealed until IF I would break the rules.. From the perspective of a 10btc investor the advantage is all yours. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 07:20:15 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai if you can change the contract unilaterally then it alows you to change the contract to '..and i get to keep all the btc' without breaking your rules. You have built in something that would be considered illegal under most laws. Such a contract would be invalid. kthnxby The client can only break rules by disclosing my ID or other info about the projevt to third party which I or my partners consider damaging for the project. You are right about the rule.. It was meant mainly for change in interest rates and reserved for other possible problems. I was thinking if BTC fluctuates too much then I might have to do some changes in contract or other scenarios where I might have to change parts of the contract.. I will change it, do you have any suggestions. Specifiy the cases where you want to give yourself the power to unilaterally change the contract. One such case would be if bitcoin suddenly rallied to say 20$ or so, and I have a big part of the funds invested, then I might have to change interest rates for a shorter period for not going bankrupt. Also for events which I have not thought of yet, where people could misuse parts of the contract to damage the project. If you do not specifie all cases in your contract then it is pointless. BTC will very propably rally to way above $20 within the next 6 months. You should already plan for those things and allowing yourself to just change the contract is the worst possible way of doing it. So, what happens when you default? How will things be handled? And how about the other points i critisized? Yes I am pretty certain it will, if it goes slowly and gradually the I don't see a problem, but if it makes sudden jumps the... Yeah you can Imagine.. And yes this is what I am trying to plan for, it is maybe the biggest difficulty mixing bitcoin with FIATs. The plan is a clean default between the projects after we have closed the earlier one. I am planning how to make a system in case of something would happen to me. This will come later on the website.. I am now trying to plan through different scenarios, which we will try to counter if needed. I think I have answered your other questions.. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 07:23:54 PM - Dividends are paid every Thursday. - You must have made your deposit minimum 7 days prior to be paid dividends. - minimum period of time for depositing at Banyan Investment is 8 weeks. - Minimum amount for investing is 10 BTC. - Deposits only accepted in between the projects. - Withdrawals are to be made only after minimum 8 weeks, after this at any time. - All rates and interest rates may be a subject to change at a later point. - I may at any time announce changes in contract or interest rates, these changes however will not be valid until 7 days of my announcement. - Our current weekly interest rates are 4,5% up to 100 BTC. 5,5% up to 500 BTC, and 7% for deposits over 500 BTC. - All investors who are depositing 500+ BTC will have my ID verified if needed..! - Special disclosure agreement will be made about your knowledge of my ID if you want it revealed. - A 3 week period is put for both issuer and client to evaluate if you/we want to continue this project. in case of any of parties want to leave for some reason, then issuer will have to pay back all bitcoins to client. This 3 week period will only be active in the beginning stages of this program. - If using 3 week period rule, then you will only get your initial deposit back, already paid dividends will be discounted from this amount. - For making pass throughs for this project you will have to ask Banyan management first. - If any client breaks any of the rules in our agreement I may terminate his/her account. - This info will be updated more during next couple of days. Hai at the current btc price even a 10btc deposit warrants an id. why the arrbitrary treshold of 500? kthnxby because of this is not a regged company, just a private project at the moment. And I have seen that some government agencies have been working their magic on some other projects. The question was earlier if I would reveal my ID at all and in that case how? This solution is a compromise which I consider quite fair for all parts. Those who invests on highest level are more trustworthy then people who deposits 10BTC when it comes to revealing my ID to third party. If they would reveal my ID without me breaking any rules their account will be terminated and the funds in them too. This way I am certainly sure my ID will not be revealed until IF I would break the rules.. From the perspective of a 10btc investor the advantage is all yours. Well yes, but you don't need my ID for anything if I don't break the rules. I see it as a good insurance if I only let the largest investors to know my identity. And If i break the rules then other investors will guaranteed reveal my ID and use it against me.. I think this is fair to both directions. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 22, 2012, 07:43:22 PM You can also E-mail us at banyan@hushmail.me
Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: dishwara on October 22, 2012, 07:52:08 PM What is the use of personal id & details.
In Bitcoinica case they have ids & everything, not much good result. Pirateat40 is well known, & no action against him so far. Nefario- same again Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Factory on October 22, 2012, 09:42:36 PM Scam.
Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 22, 2012, 10:12:42 PM What is the use of personal id & details. In Bitcoinica case they have ids & everything, not much good result. Pirateat40 is well known, & no action against him so far. Nefario- same again So you can see them giving you the finger on google streetscape. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 22, 2012, 11:47:25 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91141.msg1010561#msg1010561
Quote Where can I find info about your backers for this project? This is kind of necessary for having insured bonds I think. And are you planning to verify your address and phone number, Kind of funny to start the first ''serious'' bitcoin based insurance company and not even list/verify their address or phone number for their investors....? I am super interested in both CPA and YARR, but without having this info I can not invest in you. I mean anyone can say their product is insured or even triple insured and still go with the money.. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 22, 2012, 11:55:19 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Rumor has it that Atlas and Dank are limited partners, establishing a passthrough. If that's the case, I'm in. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: greyhawk on October 23, 2012, 09:14:10 AM Hello, WiRmola aka Olli Virkunnen, 34 years old graphic designer at F-Secure Finland.
http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-rJ415YBCquIr0fTlZ_PFs0f2eid0LVNYYi4KWfPkq1CU81qMKJ4iWP0vq1qN7Z1kAU/olli-virkkunen.jpg Shall we do the "outing you all over the Internet" thing now? Or do you prefer the quiet slinking away thing? Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Akka on October 23, 2012, 09:17:14 AM Hello, WiRmola aka Olli Virkunnen, 34 years old graphic designer at F-Secure Finland. http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-rJ415YBCquIr0fTlZ_PFs0f2eid0LVNYYi4KWfPkq1CU81qMKJ4iWP0vq1qN7Z1kAU/olli-virkkunen.jpg Shall we do the "outing you all over the Internet" thing now? Or do you prefer the quiet slinking away thing? Wow, impressive if true. Added you to my "People I better not piss off" List. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: greyhawk on October 23, 2012, 09:24:52 AM Wow, impressive if true. Added you to my "People I better not piss off" List. You're Erisian, I'm Discordian. We're on the same side. Don't worry. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: sgravina on October 23, 2012, 11:13:34 AM ... I will also be selling some of our products for members on bitcointalk. The products I will be selling here are. All these products are from India if not mentioned otherwise. Saffron ... How much for the Saffron? The Saffron is always of highest quality from Kashmir. I will be selling this for 5$/gram for people in this forum. If you are looking for larger quantities you will get a much better price. Wholesale prices I will only discuss per Email. EDIT: I will also have to charge for transport :/ That is a good price for Saffron but it is what I am paying already. It would be interesting to buy it with bitcoins. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: ErebusBat on October 23, 2012, 12:38:26 PM Hello, WiRmola aka Olli Virkunnen, 34 years old graphic designer at F-Secure Finland. Sauce?http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-rJ415YBCquIr0fTlZ_PFs0f2eid0LVNYYi4KWfPkq1CU81qMKJ4iWP0vq1qN7Z1kAU/olli-virkkunen.jpg Shall we do the "outing you all over the Internet" thing now? Or do you prefer the quiet slinking away thing? Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 01:10:15 PM Hello, WiRmola aka Olli Virkunnen, 34 years old graphic designer at F-Secure Finland. Sauce?http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-rJ415YBCquIr0fTlZ_PFs0f2eid0LVNYYi4KWfPkq1CU81qMKJ4iWP0vq1qN7Z1kAU/olli-virkkunen.jpg Shall we do the "outing you all over the Internet" thing now? Or do you prefer the quiet slinking away thing? Damn, now you got me... I should have known better with you.. I think the outing thing sounds pretty funny to me, so sure, why don't we?? :D Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: greyhawk on October 23, 2012, 01:36:48 PM Sauce? https://twitter.com/wirmola Ad tweeter: mentions bitcoin and poker which leads us to http://pokerprolabs.com/wirmola/fulltiltpoker http://www.pokerguru.in/player/WiRmola which leads us to the name Olli Wirkunnen, which is a spelling variant of Olli Virkunnen, which leads us back to http://www.pokerguru.in/forum/entry.php?246 and a Linked-In Profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/olli-virkkunen/48/844/a78 which features above picture which bears a strong resemblance (although younger and more nourished) to pictures of poker player Olli Virkkunen playing poker found via GIS. Further, searching for olli virkunnen wirmola links us back directly to the above linked-in profile, so Google sees a correlation there, most likely through linkbacks. Our "Indian" wirmola is also active here in the Skandinavian board. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 23, 2012, 01:51:55 PM Our "Indian" wirmola is also active here in the Skandinavian board. I wouldn't necessarily call one post 'active'...he's primarily active in securities and the Economy section in general... Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 23, 2012, 01:54:09 PM Hello, WiRmola aka Olli Virkunnen, 34 years old graphic designer at F-Secure Finland. http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-rJ415YBCquIr0fTlZ_PFs0f2eid0LVNYYi4KWfPkq1CU81qMKJ4iWP0vq1qN7Z1kAU/olli-virkkunen.jpg Shall we do the "outing you all over the Internet" thing now? Or do you prefer the quiet slinking away thing? Wow, impressive if true. Added you to my "People I better not piss off" List. This is why I don't bother to hide my identity. :) Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: greyhawk on October 23, 2012, 02:05:53 PM Our "Indian" wirmola is also active here in the Skandinavian board. I wouldn't necessarily call one post 'active'...he's primarily active in securities and the Economy section in general... Doesn't matter. It still establishes a link between "Indian" wirmola and Skandinavia. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 03:21:42 PM Let's say this guy is me.. Why are you outing it here?
And what if it is not me?? Then what? I said before, I do not want my ID out publicly in case of SEC or something similar wants to continue chasing bitcoin funded projects.. If you really think I want to hide from the public and use a username which is linked to my real identity, cmoooon!!! ??? Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 03:36:28 PM Guys cmon, right now this is a witch hunt without a witch or anyone been doing any black magic, and people are getting their names involved in things they probably have nothing to do with..
But still, impressive digging.. Nice to see people are alert on this forum, makes me feel more safe. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 23, 2012, 04:23:39 PM Guys cmon, right now this is a witch hunt without a witch or anyone been doing any black magic, and people are getting their names involved in things they probably have nothing to do with.. But still, impressive digging.. Nice to see people are alert on this forum, makes me feel more safe. To be honest, I feel more secure about this endeavor now knowing your true identity. I'm in! Where do I send my bitcoins to? Here's my address: https://instawallet.org/w/h6OePTRNx1jT6UIUuYMegZHVzoLDwfjA Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 04:41:44 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs.
I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Vod on October 23, 2012, 04:44:56 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs. I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. Shame on the bitcoin community for not falling for every ponzi scheme that shows up! >:( Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: CharlesPonzi on October 23, 2012, 04:45:46 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs. I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. Wow this one collapsed before it began. Must be a record 8) I have some lotto tickets to sell your grandma when you get the chance. Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Dalkore on October 23, 2012, 04:46:32 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Your ridiculous proposal/scam and the sad fact that it might actually work... The only thing sad here is you. Who made you a judge of what is scam and what is not? #1 SCAM - Weekly interest is the first give away (quick buck), The rate of interest is the second (4-7%, laughable) #2 Jr. Member #3 Name similar to other investment scammers, I think it is the same person or group of people. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 23, 2012, 04:51:24 PM Shame on the bitcoin community for not falling for every ponzi scheme that shows up! >:( Hahah +1 Oh, and for future reference, I'll just leave this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 23, 2012, 04:58:45 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs. I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. You also told us you and your friends were doing it for 10+ years. How come you are not already very very rich from the 500% profits for 10 years? Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 23, 2012, 05:07:39 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Your ridiculous proposal/scam and the sad fact that it might actually work... The only thing sad here is you. Who made you a judge of what is scam and what is not? #1 SCAM - Weekly interest is the first give away (quick buck), The rate of interest is the second (4-7%, laughable) #2 Jr. Member #3 Name similar to other investment scammers, I think it is the same person or group of people. #4 Command of the English language, even if it's not his native tongue, past post dictate elsewise. #5 Speaking of post posts, the majority of them consist of text void of any real content. #6 Gave up too easily. (see Dank's hookah lounge investment thread, though maybe not a scam, but...) Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 05:21:11 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Your ridiculous proposal/scam and the sad fact that it might actually work... The only thing sad here is you. Who made you a judge of what is scam and what is not? #1 SCAM - Weekly interest is the first give away (quick buck), The rate of interest is the second (4-7%, laughable) #2 Jr. Member #3 Name similar to other investment scammers, I think it is the same person or group of people. #4 Command of the English language, even if it's not his native tongue, past post dictate elsewise. #5 Speaking of post posts, the majority of them consist of text void of any real content. #6 Gave up too easily. (see Dank's hookah lounge investment thread, though maybe not a scam, but...) #1 because you people are too stupid to know how to make good profit.. You are probably selling sodapops and cigarettes and think there is some profit in it.. #2 So.. Do you think only Sr. members are interested of making business? #3 Should I have changed name when already started? I have no idea of what scammers you are talking about, Why are you calling me a scammer you fucking cunt? #4 So? Aaah sorry.. Iknow, I know.. It means I am a scammer, right? #5 Scammer sign? #6 I am forced to give up. I am not risking my freedom for selling bonds which might be illegal to do for some countries. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 05:22:25 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs. I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. You also told us you and your friends were doing it for 10+ years. How come you are not already very very rich from the 500% profits for 10 years? Try to read the thread, it is all there... Title: Re: Banyan Investments OPENING Monday 22/10 (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Dalkore on October 23, 2012, 05:24:09 PM this is hilarious but for some reason i still think some stupid people will invest... :'( Great you are enjoying.. Please tell me what is hilarious about this? Your ridiculous proposal/scam and the sad fact that it might actually work... The only thing sad here is you. Who made you a judge of what is scam and what is not? #1 SCAM - Weekly interest is the first give away (quick buck), The rate of interest is the second (4-7%, laughable) #2 Jr. Member #3 Name similar to other investment scammers, I think it is the same person or group of people. #4 Command of the English language, even if it's not his native tongue, past post dictate elsewise. #5 Speaking of post posts, the majority of them consist of text void of any real content. #6 Gave up too easily. (see Dank's hookah lounge investment thread, though maybe not a scam, but...) #1 because you people are too stupid to know how to make good profit.. You are probably selling sodapops and cigarettes and think there is some profit in it.. #2 So.. Do you think only Sr. members are interested of making business? #3 Should I have changed name when already started? I have no idea of what scammers you are talking about, Why are you calling me a scammer you fucking cunt? #4 So? Aaah sorry.. Iknow, I know.. It means I am a scammer, right? #5 Scammer sign? #6 I am forced to give up. I am not risking my freedom for selling bonds which might be illegal to do for some countries. Coke Inc. and the Pepsi Corporation are doing quite well last time I check (Friday). Don't get me started on Tobacco. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: 01BTC10 on October 23, 2012, 05:30:39 PM lol at seeking investment and now insulting forum members.
http://takimag.com/images/uploads/gavmon.jpeg Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Korbman on October 23, 2012, 05:33:46 PM lol at seeking investment and now insulting forum members. All in 3 days :D Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: drekk on October 23, 2012, 05:52:39 PM Mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: mobodick on October 23, 2012, 06:13:12 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs. I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. You also told us you and your friends were doing it for 10+ years. How come you are not already very very rich from the 500% profits for 10 years? Try to read the thread, it is all there... I could not find an explanation to why you arent so rich by now that you need bitcoin community to invest. It doesn't make any sense at all with the rates you present. You should be able to invest much more yourself than what you can get out of the people here. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: Akka on October 23, 2012, 06:29:28 PM Thank Eris, this blow up before it started. Is there still hope for the BTC community, or was it just because the old wounds are not healed yet?
If a "Investment Opportunity" like this blows up so soon in a half year from now, I will starting to belive that the community really has leaned something. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: wirmola on October 23, 2012, 07:20:25 PM Wow, you guys are so stupid.. You had a sweet chance to earn some decent money here and you are just fucking it all up. In a way I understand you, because of what have happened earlier with high yield investment programs. I told you we don't have a regged company and we are a group of people of people who are trading, therefore it is not a good thing to get MINE and some OTHER peoples identities outed on a public forum. this is at least 2 different guys, only one of them is me. And I didn't really bother to make a new identity, because I have not had any intentions to scam anyone. One of the reasons why we could offer such high return was because of the fees we don't pay that registered companies have to pay. Another reason was, that we make such a sweet profit on the stuff we are selling.. for ex saffron 400%+, stones 500-1000% and so on. So there was plenty of room for paying a high dividend, when considering time estimations and and price calculations.. My business will go on, but in smaller scale then I planned from the beginning, and I will not be offering bonds anymore. This would now be impossible considering the legalities of having unregged companies and offering bonds.. I will still be selling these same products for bitcoins if there's a deal that would be worth the trouble :) Also I might make some sort of private deals with investors with good return, if interested then PM me. You also told us you and your friends were doing it for 10+ years. How come you are not already very very rich from the 500% profits for 10 years? Try to read the thread, it is all there... I could not find an explanation to why you arent so rich by now that you need bitcoin community to invest. It doesn't make any sense at all with the rates you present. You should be able to invest much more yourself than what you can get out of the people here. haven't been working full time before. Been using my money for other stuff. We don't need bitcoin communitys money, I have other options to get my funding. But it was one of the options we had in mind. exactly which part does not make sense to you with the rates? The intention was to expand the operation, and to implement bitcoin in our system. For that you need a lot of funds and if some of them in bitcoins, then even better.. Title: Re: Banyan Investments NOW OPEN!! (Upto 7%/week) Post by: ErebusBat on October 23, 2012, 07:34:46 PM Why the 8 week hold?
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