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This is a community started ANN to have a clear meeting point for discussion and news about LOYYAL Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. Please don't bother me abut having to update the ANN or give any definitive answers, cause I don't have them, this is just a meeting point as the developers aren't really based here.....but if they decide to make an official ANN I can delete this.

*Zero tolerance for anything that looks and smells like a Troll, criticism if based on fact is welcome and won't be deleted.



https://i.imgur.com/8LctkpG.jpg


http://loyyal.com/
https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp
http://www.coindesk.com/deloitte-unveils-5-blockchain-partnerships-and-20-operational-prototypes/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/loyyal-announces-loyalty-industry-expert-183300839.html
http://cointelegraph.com/news/how-travellers-can-benefit-from-blockchain
https://www.facebook.com/ribbitrewards
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace.life/
http://www.jcnnewswire.com/pressrelease/28378/2/Ribbitme-Raises-15-Million-Seed-Round
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/ribbitme-poised-lead-rewards-industry-consolidation-using-blockchain-technology-enhancing-1979188.htm
http://coinalert.eu/12561000126305-Ribbit.me+Poised+to+Lead+Rewards+Industry+Consolidation+Using+Blockchain+Technology,+Enhancing+Bitcoin+Mainstream+Utility.html
https://www.youtube.com/user/ribbitmechannel/videos
https://www.f6s.com/ribbit.meusa
https://twitter.com/gregorylsimon?lang=de















I took the liberty of making a new ANN to have a clear ANN for LOYYAL formally known as RibbetRewards.    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857452.0

was it possible for you to edit the older thread and change to moderate thread?

I don't understand what you are asking...this is a new moderated thread...you can't change once made an unmoderated thread into a moderated thread.

I thought it was better to do before the thread got too big..


I won't be deleting negative comments that heavily just ones thats are just plainly stupid and annoy the community...

Thanks for your efforts!

Great to see Loyyal (formerly RibbitRewards) progressing so well!

Having the ex-Maestro CEO on board plus having secured the Dubai partnerships give us a glimpse of where this can go.

Sure does. It takes a lot for me to be interested in a project but this one I have a good feeling about. I like the fact there will be real money flowing into the platform not developers hopes and pump talk.

Cheers, but it was nothing, just want to have a place to discuss the project under the right name. Hopefully we can do that without the noise a bit better now..

thanks for doing the new one.
trolls are stupid, but you can imagine maybe some of that some trolls are also whales in real.
they want, that people sell to them, to buy Ribbits more cheap.
it`s quite obviously that they are playing games and want to influence the community.

for myself, I`m not a newby - was more a long time (only reading) user, but I`m in Ribbits since december.
I am also not one of this whales, but I keep out my coins of the buying area - if the rebranding is completed and Loyyal goes to Polo it will be 2k Sat easy.
Also if you took a look on the list of the most important blockchain business Loyyal is on the 49st place direct behind DASH and Stellar. I`m pretty sure that Loyyal will take Stellar in value of market cap in long term. A correct rating for Loyyal could be 10-35 Mio market cap till christmas 16.
There are so many business deals, the concept is good, in real there are much less coins than the statistic makes the price feel. Normally if business gets VC the market cap of the coin is 4 times the money which was invested. Ribbit got money the last years by VC, in winter they got another 1,5 Mio and they got also supply by big players. So without doing anything they coin could be worth 10 Mio. But the project development is good, there is a faster grow potential for use than BTC and it will take profit on the BTC price and could be THE altcoin of the second half of 2016.

ah i see. i thought the OP could edit the thread and turn it into moderated one. thats why i asked

anyways.  yes  let keep this about news related progress. the previous one was so nice, up until the trolls showed up and turned it into a typical manipulating drama posting war
 
does anyone knows where ribbitrewards stands of as of now? coins amounts. how much is the block reward.


i know it is moving over into an other but i am still confused on what the features are of the actual chain now. Oh i invite only people who know the facts or are confident with their answers. its not an invitation to guess. been watching this since the concept.

i guess i want to know if anyone knows (with real proofs) if ribbitrewards is stil on the same path, if not what has been modified.

previous info :
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I was just about to post this info you found. That's the current info, 400,000,000 in circulation, 600,000,000 held by Ribbet rewards. It's a lot but understandable as they have to allocate points/rewards to somone who makes a purchase etc. It's similar to a stellar or Ripple model I guess.

Of the 400m in circulation we only have guesses to how much was lost in the Cryptsy hack and if or when those coins might become available again. My estimate is there is around 150m on Bittrex.


As a rule I tend to look at marketcap to judge value rather than coin number.


To be honest the project has a lot of unknowns, the developers have said they are discussing now how Ribbet rewards move to the new eth/exp chain so everything is a bit of a guess now....a punt on the potential of what they are doing. For me it's the partnerships they have gained and backing of even a Governmnet that has convinced me about this project honestly....I can't remember ever seeing these kind of big business clients apart from Bitcoin. After the last few weeks of news I honestly see no logical reason why the marketcap isn't already similar to projects like Factom which don't have half the backing this project has and it's just the start.

Some news.

http://www.emirates247.com/business/seven-projects-four-new-members-global-blockchain-council-2016-06-12-1.632771



Very quiet around here now the price is down a bit, it's almost as if the trolls only wanted a price drop.  ;D


I think the price will recover to old highs quickly...

Price dropped because BTC pumped hard. Most alts dropped.

This coin must be on Poloniex! Then we see 1000+ satoshi for sure.

Maybe we should do an coin request on Polo? https://poloniex.com/coinRequest

in my mind the drop was not because of the BTC pump.
trolls said some days before that they know it will drop.
now they think we trust them and lose interest on the coin - they just want you to sell cheap!
but there was no big player losing lots of coins --> therefore: trolls dumped most of the price drop to them self (2 or 3 trolls working together....or one troll with more accounts).

the coin is a long term investment.
if you don`t think so, there a lot people happy with low prices.
longterm it will go to 2k sat - but give them time for a fully done re-branding, for adding the coin to major exchanges and so on.
if the POS wallet is working fine, 50% of the coins will be away from market place as well, then there are smaller walls to break, when the coin got recognized by the mainstream users and other whales. In the end it`s all about media-psychology --> so if trolls tell you the coin isn`t good, the price will explode when the first BTC hype is over. or are there other reasons to do things like they do? NO, it`s all about profit.

so if you want to make profit within a month, you can put smaller sale walls beyond 1k SAT,....but if you do, you`ll maybe unhappy with a price of 1-10k SAT.
long term there is at least the same potential in it like following factom, storjx and other products co-created or produced by the Bnk of the future. even if there is a new coin (when you have to bring in Ribbits to get the new one) there are major opportunities. If most of them are in the wrong hands (crypsy) - who knows, if there is no new ICO which brings additional millions (and if it happens your coins will be much more worth, because if you count the coins on Bittrex (did it since a half year), there aren`t 400 mio coins in user-hands.

it`s a real company in a real business world and they have major deals, which was recognized by the big business analysts (http://richtopia.com/companies/top-100-blockchain    ---> check it out/ at the end of the top 50 companies, weekly going up). and the potential is definitely not lower than a STEAM or SIA coin, which have much more competitors in their business field and no possibility to go live (on usage) in the next time.

but if you asked me, Loyyal actually isn`t really interested to see big pumps until everything on the technical side is developed. Because they have 18 month time to burn the 1,5 mio until they will need and get new BTC in a series A stage. And moreover I read all documents of the company, when they had presented their project half a year ago on BF.....and there will be regular company stocks in future (to generate more cash) - but they won`t do it before the coin is in the top 15/has done big deals/has several incoming streams (which gives a high rated value to the stocks they will sale in future).

So if you wanna dump. Do it - someone will be happy to get coins cheap.
If you have time to go long - 10x is very possible (even it doesn`t reach its full value, which could be 100x in 2016).
And because I read, someone thinks to do marketing for them. I`m also in that kind of business. It could help, but that`s not the right time. You could do viral stuff, if the coin is already worth 10 Mio + to bring in additional crowd-adaption. But I don`t think it`s a good idea now (until the company doesn`t do any marketing/and they have saved 0,5 Mio just for such future activities).

Best wishes,
james

http://www.acnnewswire.com/press-release/english/30541/loyyal-adds-safwan-zaheer-to-board-of-directors

You are the troll I expect..... ;D

I would say it was the rise in BTC, trolling and the fact the price of Ribbetrewards/Loyyal got ahead of itself and you always get pull backs when that happens be its Apple stock or Bitcoin.


You know there was a time when a rise in Bitcoins price resulted in a rise in Alts as wealth gained by traders got put into Alts. Personally when I see a relatively small rise in BTC in past months when its like 5% and then ETH and other Alts drop like 30% its a pure emotional trader reaction as traders are quick these days to jump to next rising coin. But personally I see the rise in BTC as only good for Alts as I believe it raises the value of the sector and all boats rise together. Short term yes traders will jump ship but long term real value will be added to Alts, mark my words...Good Alts will catch up in a big way this year IMO.

Great news, thanks!

yes danny, that could be (but i`m not a troll  ;) )
but if we took a look on that coin, it could be dangerous to drop it because of the BTC rise.
you never know, when it`s going up to new highs.
the pump to 540 sat was from one of the major wales. So we can expect that those guys will not sell beyond the price they paid for.

i don`t know if BTC is still rising, or if there are some weak weeks coming before the halfing.
But in the end it doesn`t matter, because we will see significant new highs for Loyyal and it`s price is related to the btc price.
so 2k sat in 3 month is more money than it`s now. So you`re right - in the end altcoins will take profit on the rise of btc longterm

but does anyone know why Loyyal is called Ribbit Reward again on coinmarketcap?
Moreover there is such a low solution on the image/logo of the coin.
maybe it`s not relevant now, but on long term that could be an important issue.
also the link to the thread. it should go to the most significant thread, maybe it`s also possible to fix the threads together, because the most relevant statement done by danny and roman are several pages behind the last post.
I just think about new users, who do not read everything. even it`s not the most important now, we can help people to get a feeling about the coin, if they would find a central overview about the keyfacts and the future advantages of Loyyal.

I sent a request for coin marketcap and Bittrex to update to Loyyal and sent them the logo...it was large.

Probably after changing they looked into it and decided that actually the company is Loyyal but the coins are called ribbet rewards in their opinion. Technically true until they swap to the new chain. As far as I know the company had no influence on their decisions...

thanks.

now they have the old logo in it again.
at least name and logo are the same.

when they launched Loyyal on Polo or GDAX they can change name and logo, then everything will fit together and people will wonder about the new name/logo in the top 50

wow fantastic news. i understand they have to keep hush hush until everything is finalized. this means that a lot of thinking has going on and they are taking this switch much serious.

but there gotta be some news leaking out since there is always a lot of flash buys recently.

on an other note.. there is that guys tweet


 

i hope so buddy.


its crazy how much news and marketing loyyal/ribbitrewards puts out.

Personally I don't have any problem if the developers never make contact here, as long as they keep their blog and info stream coming through Twitter etc. Sure maybe a statement about how Ribbet Rewards will change to Loyyal.....only because they did start Ribbet Rewards on this forum and was supported by investment from this forum. But after that I kind of prefer they become a world class brand that makes our tokens worth millions than have them come here and deal with stupid trolls etc.

Just my opinion...

UPDATE:  :)

http://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/

65    RibbitRewards RibbitRewards    RBR        Market cap: $ 865,524

If many people look at the chart from RBR, they think RBR dropped , but the Market cap is still the same!

BTC rose from 560 USD to 680 USD , (560USD x1,22 = 683USD)  that is an increase from ~22% (BTC and RBR have a correlation)

The RBR price is not falling!
You have to consider that the price from RBR before the BTC pump was about ~400sat
400sat x 0,78 = 312 sat (current price is 317 sat)
(    0,78 = (1-0,22) = ~22%  )

You have to think in USD!

We are still at the same level before the BTC pump!
https://cryptrader.com/charts/bittrex/rbr/btc
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Price:

RBR is doing a really good job among these circumstances:
   -Bitcoin Block Reward Halving
   -LISK;WAVES;DAO ICO

The RBR price has a constant increase!
BTC will raise the price from every altcoins after the halfing! especially from RBR (HUGE POTENTIAL)

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Hopeless case:

nagi 10 !

your first post was at the June 10, 2016 in the loyyal ann! you have not a objective opinion!
it's obvious that you are a person, who want to buy cheap coins!
Such a behaviour is ridiculous!
I will not answer any questions from you and ignore your comments!

They rebranded to Loyyal....the rest you seem confused about, read more, type less.


I don't see any lack of communication, blog, website, Twitter, FB....what more do you want a personal visit to your home or a quick cuddle?


I've said it before but daily...weekly updates have become the new pump mechanism...os people want information that isn't ready or important to them...they just want the price to rise 50% more.

If you haven't watched the 3 hours of Youtube videos about the project you haven't tried to learn about the project IMO. As a company they owe you nothing in terms of forum posts....


*You know they actually gave half the token away for free right?

Let me educate you a little. I don't have time to body slam your dribble above.

#1. Yes, they owe it to the people that purchased their "project" coins for the past 2 1/2 years...Period!

...you obviously have Zero real world experience in business.

Seriously dude you make no sense...

Who is your daddy ? And what does he do? -- Arnolds' voice

Ok heres the thing. I haven't looked at it closely but I guess nagi1 seems to think if a payment app gives loyyalty points then somehow that makes Loyyal obsolete..


Let me give you some facts...IF Loyyal gets partnerships of massive companies and they use the platform to pay loyalty points and incentivise as they design their products what the hell has that go to do with another product. You are saying revenue and profit of Loyyal somehow means another company can't make money in a 60 billion market......its so retarded its hilarious. The people using the app will have no idea its blockchain they will think they are collecting dubai points...or another company colors the coin so they are gaining say United airline points.

Bottom line your point is if one company makes some money then other companies can't make money lololoololololoolooo0ololooolooololoolol piss off...



*please don't feed the trolls they are interested in one thing and that is pushing the price down so they can buy more....be smart, don't link or mention idiots and I will delete them..

speak like a cock again and I will delete your ass, this is a friendly forum thread..

You speak of the real world....the real world I know doesn't owe you a forum post...period. Show me one legal contract thats says they have to post here? You should be happy that instead of abandoning the project they sat and worked on it and developed it to a point that Governments are backing it. Thats the only real world I'm seeing here....

I was just reading CNN and came across the best restaurants in the world article then it mentioned the Buri Al Arab Hotel.....This hotel alone could make a decent cryptocurrency economy....the scale and money that passes through this hotel chain and just this one hotel alone must be huge.



http://www.jumeirah.com/en/destinations/united-arab-emirates-dubai/burj-al-arab-jumeirah/burj-al-arab-terrace/

Without exaggeration its the centrepiece tourist place of Dubai...and visitors there will get Ribbert Rewards lol!!! Well Dubai points....

Plus I noticed they have a store that accepts points....I expect it will take Dubai points later..

http://www.jumeirah.com/en/hotels-resorts/dubai/burj-al-arab/offers/burj-al-arab-exquisite-souvenirs/

A lot of good news coming thru.

Last chat I had with them today they said they are literally *working day and night* to keep up and make great things happen!

I don't doubt it....but people want forum posts and hype. The best hype is they work hard and get this project running well and get more of the kind of contacts they already have...Thats what I want for them to do.....posting stuff on a forum is easy, trust me its what I do all the time.  ;D Getting one of the biggest most exclusive hotel chains to use your currency now thats hard...

How are you chatting to them, do you know them personally?

This Twitter post from a new Loyyal board member is worth a 100 hyped developer post from most alts coins....

https://twitter.com/safwanzaheer/status/742740027390595073

Thats not hype, thats the truth!   8)

Exactly!! and the truth eventually wins out...

With all these people getting on board, does anyone know if they're getting a chunk of the RBR that the team has?
It'd be nice to know where/how that RBR is being used/who is in control.

So why is RBR down almost 30% last 12 hours, any clue? It's not that BTC is up 30%...

Lol Why wouldnt it be BTC going up? Weak hands selling dude, its the only reason. Of course they dont understand the fact that if RBR stays at its current level (they dont sell), and BTC goes up... RBR value also goes up.... Bunch of nancy boys selling now.

This project has big league attention... once an announcement from loyyal comes out about the details of RBR and the swap its going to fucking explode.  

Sorry, not sorry, to those weak hands... they like following the sheep and missing the real parties

Not to mention that it probably only took a few BTC worth of selling to drop the price 30%.

Only 5 BTC to move it back to 300 sat. That's peanuts.

Under distribution, there popped up a new #1 few days ago with 32.3 million RBR. It's now down to 30.7 million. 
Selling 1.5 million would cause it to drop to about where it is now.
Someone just wants some of their RBR converted to BTC now that BTC is pumping

Depends on the conversion ratio and conditions.

I agree one should probably shortcut the current trader (s) by buying it back to ~250+ and hold it there, but as you have no clue how much selling pressure they have left you could need quite some BTC.

The news is awesome on Loyyal, I agree. Wellknown people onboard takes it apart from all the scammy altcoins.

Holy crap. I wonder if they were acquired from Bittrex, or sent there to dump.

Don't you realize by now that we all know it's a bullish sign when trollers like you be trollin'?

Let's be realistic guys, if BTC makes a run to $1000, it'll probably dump below 100 sats
That guy who brought over the 32.3 million clearly wants to sell too. It's down to 29.4 now
I think he's trying to get as much sold above 200 as he can.

...But this of course would just be a great opportunity to buy.

That is speculation not based on facts. The idea that the biggest account on Bittrex has moved loads of RR over to Bittrex to dump isn't actually logical. So basically someone who already has 20m instead of dumping those moves another 10 million to Bittrex? Why would they do that? The far more logical explanation is a guy who owns 20m just added another 10m from other silly people dumping on to his cheap buys...a smart Whale basically.


I welcome a rise in Bitcoin, its all good for crypto generally. I don't give a damn what the price in Bitcoin is, what I do believe is whatever the price of Bitcoin is this project should be valued around at least 3-5 million dollars right now.....and hopefully a lot more later. You only got to look at shitty coins like Dubai coin that is just a pointless clone that have similar market caps than Loyyal to know this one is way undervalued....I looked at Dubai Coin thread and everyone is in a frenzy, saying great developer , active developer , great great,, wonderful if the guy changes the logo on the coin or some shit...lol


Smart people buy now, time and time again experience shows that...Plus up until about a year or so ago a big rally in Bitcoin was followed by a big rally in Alts....so don't assume this will lower the price of Loyyal and Alts medium term, they would take the money made from Bitcoin and then put it into undervalued alts, rising all boats..

People love to play the drama queen to get the price down a bit, the truth is they don't have much to dump into really, the moves are very superficial at this point and can be reversed by one large buyer in less than a second.

"I am not going to buy...This is merely an experiment"

LOL comedy Gold, I'm starting to like you...

Which of course is a bet on the future...a risky one. By far the more likely scenario is the price will flatten out as its already starting to and could even dive back to 500-600 levels again. 1000 dollars would bring talk of bubble again and wouldn't easily hold, its will get to 1000 eventually but 450 to 1000 in a month or so isn't very stable. imo

I'm a longtime holder of RBR, started buying last May and got some as low as 11sat back last October... Am really excited about all of the news over the last few months, and the fact that the swap hasn't occurred yet just keeps this thing under the radar for the time being - I'm pretty confident it'll explode at some future point.

Having said that, though - that #1 wallet on Bittrex isn't good, short-term.  It's already dumped 2.5mil in two days from the original 32 million, whoever is selling seems to be doing it just enough to not completely crash the price...but unless he/she just wanted a little BTC freed up my guess is that the price will keep slowly dumping until the big wallet stops unloading.  Buy support just isn't there anymore, with the BTC pump, until we start getting toward 100sat.

On another note, now that this thread is moderated, can you just ban that nagi10 account, dannyman?  The fake broken English and general idiocy is annoying - it's like having a dumber version of legendary troll barabbas in here.

Does anyone know how to build from source and latest source?
Bittrex must be running a Daemon??

You never know. Those 32M RBR could be a scare tactic. He could be selling them into his own buy orders on another account or something along those lines.

RibbitRewards added at https://rawx.io/poll.html

Why is everyone assuming the 32m wallet is dumping?????

The no.1 wallet was already 20m so the more likely scenario is they have bought some more thats all.....anyway al I see now is more bigger wallets growing....


Plus its not logical that the no.1 wallet which already had 20m wouldn't first dump those coins....but bring more to the exchange....unlikely.


what pisses me off about price speculation is the focus goes off the project and turns it into a casino PND. Price speculation based on facts is perfectly ok longer term and as the coin is now at 96th place on Coinmarketcap....Thats ridiculous considering the news of the last few months. Get a grip, the Dubai Government has backed it as a loyalty point project and thats just a fraction of the projects story....give me a break. Just buy and laugh at these fools trying to make 25% by trading...the big gains are going to be holding this till it gets where it realises its true value.

Who owns the wallet. For sure it was someone with a lot LOT of coins.

The  number 1 wallet was 16 million. Then it was 15 million. Then 10, then 9, then 8. This was last week.
A few days ago, all those numbers stayed the same except they were shifted down one place due to a new #1, which held 32.3 million. So no, the wallet was not already 20 million. The bigger wallets have not been growing. I'm not sure what you're looking at..

And the amount of RBR that has disappeared from the wallet corresponds to the amount that has been sold. It's fairly clear that the person is selling.

Also, all the communitty HAS is price-speculation. How are we supposed to help this project and focus on the project as opposed to the price? Devs are not active with the community, it's as simple as that. There's nothing to help with. I've even emailed every ....@loyyal.com email address I could, and no one responded.

And making 5 posts in a row on this forum (as opposed to putting it all in 1 post) as you did yesterday--I assume to keep bumping this thread and making visible--doesn't count as help.


Also, a person who makes 25% in mere days is no fool.
The fool would be you, if you think they are fools.
Can more be made? I and I'm sure others think there answer is a definite yes, but 25% is nothing to scoff at.

Bottom line....has anything that has happened with the price for the last week in any way altered the potential of the project? You made a speculation thread....why not use it?

BUY BUY BUY BUY GUYS!!!!! :o

A guy(whale) has ~30mil. RBR

-The person showed his wallet and dumped about 3m RBR.

If I am a whale, I would never show my big wallet and dump!
nobody with a brain would do this!

unless

I want to buy more cheap RBR !

This is the accumulation time


the smart investors would buy now

Right! Is a fucking idiot. Also, 32 mil is not an astronomical amount.

Edit: Don't forget to vote. We need more exchanges : https://rawx.io/poll.html

So you are saying you trap your friend by trying to convince strangers to sell before him who therefore lower the price so your friend gets less ROI?

What a nice friend you are!

No, nothing has happened with regards to the potential of the project. Hence, why in my post yesterday I said it would be a great opportunity to buy if it dumps more.

But to do deny that there's a decent chance we hang around these prices or even lower while BTC does its thing, is ridiculous.
Maybe we shoot back up, maybe we don't. But someone is selling a lot, it's clear.
Don't be so pissy.

Great story!  ;D

Your FUDing plain and simple....btc went up 25% Loyyal dropped more than 100%..that's what FUD talk wants and that's what you got...happy?

You can't say you believe in this project and think it should be around 100th in terms of marketcap...you simply can't...and being wise after the fact about a FUD dump doesn't make you a friend of the people either. You swing your view to affect price...that's all..I've seen traders like you a million times after a sudden rise you regret cause you were too busy trying to time the mini movements and miss the big one...

Like I said - Where are sources, build instructions.

If an exchange listened to your request - how the hell do they get a working Daemon for JSON integration? As far as we know there may be only three in existence; Ribbit.me, Bittrex and the explorer.

It's not FUD. Jesus, everyone on this forum is like 5 years old. Any logical thinking in regards to their fav coins and they get so upset.

And no man, nothing can lose more than 100% of its value...you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
From 500 sats, lets say, to around 200 would be a ~60% loss of value.

What FUD have I spread? I noted that a lot of RBR has been brought to BIttrex, and then noted that it has been sold. YOu seem to want to deny that?
I never once said anything negative about Loyyal's potential.

Infact, I've encouraged buying if it falls more.

You're obviously pissed you bought at 500 when you could have gotten more at 200

I bought sub 100 sats....your short term price games don't bother.....or interest me. I'll never trade this coin,only hold. use your price speculation thread, this is for discussion of the project so people can learn about it. Truth is this, you can trade anything, even the worst shitcoin, in fact really shit coins on yobit make people a lot of quick gains....but its boring and not related to discussing the project and the exciting news coming out of the project, already this thread looks like a million others on here with PND speculation is makes it impossible for people to talk about the project and learn more. A droning on about price ups and downs is so fucking dull...find a shit coin and trade that.

Seems pointless apart from a short term price boost to get on more exchanges, better to wait for the new expanse chain, hopefully later this year.

I have stuck my RBR on Crapsty exshitchange, damn!  >:( Bought them about 9-20 sat... unlucky

I won't if its falling onto you...

He is an idiot!

Everything is fine in my opinion :)

the progress from loyyal is most convincing!

That's sucks, sorry. Who knows there is a possibility you can get them back. Are you able to prove you owned them from your wallet....you never know when they go to a new chain they might be able to give new tokens. But saying this, it's not likely.

The bright side is its not too late to reinvest if you can, the project is almost 100th on coin marketcap and if you look at the project carefully it's not crazy to think it will become a top 20 coin at some point so a massive ROI is gonna happen. Probably when news of move to new chain and also I think it has a good chance later of going on poloniex.

ROI: yes i agree!
but i am pretty sure that BTC will fall, maybe a few days before the halfing or after the halfing!
and the best time to buy RBR is now!

why?

1.many noobs are only looking at the RBR/BTC chart(if btc will fall, RBR will rise that isn't a secret)
2.The attention is/was directed at BTC(halfing) and waves/Lisk/DAO(hack)/ETH
3.Idiots are still dumping a hidden gem(panic) :)
4.When everything is official (swap,poloniex,) everyone will buy RBR in the future!
5.If you look at the news/progress from LOYYAl what do you think? right, buy!
6.we have trolls, the developer are very withdrawn!

You sound like a massive bagholder.

There isn't any confirmation that LOYYAL will use the RBR blockchain. A lot of the RBR coins were lost at Cryptsy and if I were LOYYAL I would use my 1,5 million USD investment to forge a new blockchain, and adapt it to the new business model. That looks way more professional.

It's a gamble, but yes you can buy coins now and maybe profit from other noobs that will buy later. And who knows, maybe LOYYAL will hold an ICO for RBR tokens, but seeing the lack of communication right now my guess is that they don't care about shitcoin investors like us.

More exchanges are not the issue. However the security of the network is, the lack of 2FA on Ribbit.Me is and the possibility of the coin just being pulled, centrally is. That is why we need daemons - Bittrex have one, why can't we?

I am afraid that if you have an ICO or Crowd fund sale then you have to care.

Correction, there has been confirmation that RBR tokens will remain a part of Loyyal. Updates (not on this thread, but rather on social media or blog) are expected any moment...
See the message I received below:

http://i63.tinypic.com/sqpc1z.png

Thanks for this. I'm following them on twitter. Haven't seen a blog of Loyyal around though.

It's worth noting that Ribbet Rewards to Loyyal is not a new company but a rebrand.


The switch to Eth/Exp chain is so they could develop the capabilities of the platform and avoid any perceived obsolescence from using the Bitcoin Blockchain. This is from Gregory Simon on one of his YouTube videos.....not official but take it for what it is.

Agree with all of that. But also what idiots who think they are smart trading this coin don't get is there isn't the liquidity to jump in and out of the market unless you only have a couple of btc. If you want to own a large amount even now you would explode the market up. I think the mood in btc has already turned but now what can the people do who sold at between 300 and 200 or less? 10btc to 300 sats is all there is....this isn't ETH....I told people if you want to trade try another coin. This coin is for holding till it gets to where it's going....don't be fooled these traders/trolls are nickel and dime people sitting in PC cafes in Nigeria or kids in parents basements...they miss the bigger opportunities....they always do....


I can't be plainer that this but this is not a PND but a project that is about to have millions of dollars move into it And once it goes live YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUY AT THESE LEVELS EVER AGAIN.

I'll be called a shrill but I don't care, I believe I only 'hype' with facts.

I was thinking today imagine just one of the clients in Dubai, let's use the Jumeriah Hotels as they are well known. I assume they have a steady stream of people staying at their hotels and many would of paid thousands of dollars even just for a few days and a few restaurant meals say....all on their companies tab. Well think, they are not going to given a $10 dollar voucher and a pat on the head, hell no!!! Even conservatively you would expect a 10% discount on a related purchase right?

So what I'm saying is as soon as this thing goes live A LOT of money will flow into the platform....Loyalty industry is big business...and the points will have to be worth some real tangible value. Compared to most coins which are based on pipe dreams Loyyal is the real deal.......and it's why holding onto them with dear life is the smart move.

This one is going to be massive people....Im not hyping Im telling you the future.  :)

Interesting! It is a recent response from Loyyal? Today they say on twitter that soon will be announcing about RBR.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Followtoptrader/status/744535120942628864


An announcement in regard to RR tokens coming soon. I will get my popcorn to watch the rats scramble back into the market now....lol

That is exciting news about RBR future and this will be wonderful when it will be announced.

This is what I was looking for. ;)

It's from about a month ago. And yes, I see talk about a 'proposal'. I guess they'll check how community response will be to conversion ratio or something like that... We'll have to wait and see. Could be an exciting week.  8)

"You sound like a massive bagholder"
 not massive, but i am holding a few coins

I will not write everything again, what i researched in the last months, my friend  ;)
(first loyyal ann)-https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1475889.0
(original ann)-https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857452.700

Everybody here know my opinion about LOYYAL/RBR: HIDDEN GEM!

Awesome! Looking forward to it!

hmm from a facebook post..

"We are currently working on some good options for the future of RBR which will be announced soon. We apologize for the quiet on this front, there has just been so much going on and we are trying to make sure everything is done right."

I'm kinda exhausted with the same circle jerking

Suckers.

Dannyboy is a sock puppet for RBR.

How's dubai Dannyboy?

Everyone needs to contact Greg Simon from RBR to hear the truth about what is going on.

In the meantime, enjoy the massive lose I promised the day and hour it started.

Dannyboy will delete this as soon as he can.

Do your due dilligence.

TheMask

why dont you just share it. if your so kind to warn us. why not spill the beans.

You only have to look at the last posts from twostepsally....

ridiculous...

(I tried to warn all of you!)
(Watch out for a possible dump today)
(you obviously have Zero real world experience in business)
(Christopher frank is on this team...can anyone say crypto prostitute)
(Makes me nervous that there are 6,000,000 million more coins in storage for the development team to dump)
(....) ;D very funny such guys...

only FUD from twostepsally

Why would I delete your post when its a perfect example of a FUD focused short term trader who now can't get back into an low liquidity market without taking a loss.....delete it? Its fucking Hilarious seeing your desperation....


*Did you really just sign off your message with TheMask?  What a tit....lol

Exactly, just an irrelevant kid with a keyboard.  ;D

Noticed the Ribbit.me wallet is down atm.

I wonder if that means things are happening?

Soon^TM

Gotta love that word.

The price suppression is real though

It is not down?

http://wallet.ribbit.me/

Anyone have any speculation or thoughts on how this conversion might happen?


I personally hope we would recieve at least the same ratio of tokens as RR is, ie if you own 1% of coins you would get at least 1% of Loyyal tokens. I'm gonna be a little critical because I think it's deserved. looking back RIbbet Reward owners were given a pretty poor deal. The project was in reality partially abandoned after it was started on here. I can see it was more of a case of being in limbo rather than abandoned but still investors were a little neglected.

I also can see that RR didn't follow through with much of their early promises which included a decentralised store which was a massive element of the original roadmap. Now I can see that the project changed and morphed into something actually better in many ways and I applaud that.

But I say this to make sure we argue for a good deal from Loyyal and if we need to bend their arm a little to make sure we get a fair and decent deal then we shouldn't be shy to do so.



*The question of Cryptsy has to be recognised as well, the real actual available supply is actually much less than 400,000,000 so the price now is not a true way to make any conversion plan.

Good point, it would benefit RR and Loyal to keep the investors and public happy

It was unresponsive - no css etc

Now I get zero balance and;

Ribbit
Synch Status: Error 100.000%

Hm.. yeah, zero balance here too. Everything else is up and running though. They're doing something.

With BTC now tumbling I guarantee there isn't a better time to buy than now.....almost concerned people haven't already, maybe there aren't any rich or smart people into Loyyal yet?

easy game for the whales right now, their bittrex wallets get bigger and bigger. The order book can switch completely if they choose.

My scenarios regarding price, ranking from likely to least likely:

- Whales keeping price down, making sure this coin stays of the radar of traders that don't do their research.
- Bagholders dumping because of the BTC bull market
- LOYYAL dumping coins cheap to early investors, as a sign of gratitude
- Whales dumping because RBR tokens will be worthless in the future
- LOYYAL dumping because RBR tokens will be worthless in the future  :-*

Screw Whales Ribbert Rewards is now at 100th on coinmarkertcap.....probably the only coin backed by a government and with so much potential and backing and about to release the next stage of the roadmap. Its a gift for an investor, sadly I have no BTC to buy now. So many day traders in crypto now that the investors aren't to be seen. Oh well, its their problem not mine....roll on 5m market cap and my 1000% ROI...

So your the guy putting up tiny sells and making tiny dumps to trick the market.....hows that working for you?


A smart person will in the next 24 hours buy up to 300 sats in one second....you know it true....and then you lost your chance.

There IS confirmation that Loyyal will NOT use the RBR blockchain, by Loyyal corp itself. RBR will be transferred using some sort of token. The ratio is still unknown.

Where is it mentioned by Loyyal - Twitter or Facebook?

Thanks, just bought the dip.

How've you been, Rosso and mach22?

Former @ICLP Executive, Stuart Evans joins Loyyal https://t.co/dd6cuvICMS bringing 20+ years of experience in #loyalty @StuartCGEvans

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/745657010142601217

Chairman of the Wall Street Blockchain Alliance Joins Loyyal @financemagnates  https://t.co/0z3KiXFRrp @ronqman

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/745654427382517760

This project is rocking the world of blockchain.

Hate to say it, but those bearish charts were right on - just dumped to 100sat on Bittrex... 9.4 million RBR dumped in one shot a few minutes ago.

I'd love to know what the plan is for RBR - so much good news for Loyyal, but without knowing for sure what the plan is to connect RBR with Loyyal, it's tough to sink a lot more BTC into this one.

Why 9.4 million in one shot, i don't understand this panic guys...

But good for me :)

look at that fucking bot at bittrex :)

Seems less like panic and more like someone just deciding to dump their stash... Hopefully just an impatient impulse dump but time will tell.  I had a modest buy slightly above 100sat that filled, hopefully I don't regret adding to my bag here.

It is best investment ever in RBR as soon there will be proposal for RBR holders.I just say things are going to be very excited.All we need is little more patience.Keep calm and grab RBR as many as you can on these prices.

yes i agree!!!

I will sell a few other coins to buy more RBR! ;D

This is very promising:  https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/744552929659600896 ...

But the big wallets dumping is definitely cause for some caution.

Please sell!!! I'm waiting

You're the biggest supporter for RBR of this forum. I'm just saying...

any reason why you dumping your coin? this coin is very nice with a great community.
I will buy more if the price less than 100

Yeeeees, pleeease more!

I don't know, it's a little bit confusing for me the whole story...
http://en.acnnewswire.com/press-release/english/29655/ribbit.me-rebrands-as-loyyal

NEW YORK, NY, Apr 26, 2016 - (ACN Newswire) - Ribbit.me announces that it has renamed as Loyyal, in order to better reflect the underlying industry and the
Company's business objectives.

They wrote only about "renamed as Loyyal"!!!

we will see...

I thought you didn't trade, just an experiment you said.lol

What is confusing? It was always just a rebrand.....moving to another chain was to develop the platform.


Of course their is some risks BUT my guess is people know it's about to get exciting for Loyyal so they did a fake dump....it's not hard you make two accounts and sell to yourself, nothing lost or gained but you can drag the market down sharply. To me it shows me big investors want cheap before the big likely rise coming.

well

I am very curious about the publication:

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/744552929659600896

Aren't we all!  :D

But the things that make me positive is one they said it's just a rebrand and that they would convert to the expanse chain, not as a new project but simply as a conversion. I also think we have everything to gain and not lose at these ridiculous valuations now, we are dipping below 100th place on Coinmarketcap. My gut tells me they are nice guys, Gregory Simon susposedly left banking because he saw the problems with it and set it up so Ribbet Rewards gives a small amount of profits to charity....which he said was important to him. The fact they are communicating and even mentioning a 'proposal' is very positive. I don't expect to be given the world but I quietly think they won't throw Ribbet Reward owners under a bus as they know they have been early backers and founders from their start.

These are the kind of things that make me hang in there....I could be wrong.

not that hard to see the drop. 33 million rbr entered the market on bittrex. and he actually was looking to dump and he did. after it was being called out here he removed or split the wallets. the then 14 millions became 13,11 and now seemed like he sold the rest.

its not a panic dump by a lot of users. its just one or a limited few deciding to simply cash out. no one can stop that. these trolls claiming credit for it is just entertaining. i thought this thread was made to delete these kind of post. there are few threads opened. i would like to have this focus on news and progressing and hope OP deletes any trading thread on the spot.

so lets turn back to the real talk.

i wonder what is the purpose of rbr now. as we can see they are rebraning and slowly moving away from rbr. their tweeter says that there will be an announcement coming up soon. few days have passed so soon i guess mean when ever they are ready. trying to decipher the msg is hard.

"We are currently working on some good options for the future of RBR which will be announced soon. We apologize for the quiet on this front, there has just been so much going on and we are trying to make sure everything is done right."

some good options for the future of rbr is what i keep going back to. seems like they will offer some usage for rbr but it doesnt seem as a strong msg. at least they mentioned future so there is a future, what ever that would mean.

do they own rbr community anything? can they just drop it like some other seem to hint at? i dont know. its kind of hard to expect something from loyyal gang as they have ignored rbr for a while. i dont even know where to get a working wallet.

what i do know is that at beginning when they lunch they praised rbr like it was the new coming of jesus. there were a lot of conferences given where they promtly promoted the future of ribbitrewards being a ultimate reward market. theres tons of videos out there where they tried to get users to jump on their train. I doubt they will suddenly close their eyes on it.

also i dont see how they can claim a decentralized network. with out a block chain they are just an sql database.

what else we know. well Greg on the video posted here recently mentioned expanse, and how they forked ether to create it solely for their purpose. This kind of contradicts the expanse goals as expanse was created to be a clone of etherum with goals to have no coin centralization of etherum and ongoing mining. The only thing that stick is that Franko is the dev on rebitrewards and he is also on expanse. so there is that tie

now i dont know the time stamps but when that huge news broke through with delaite using 4 chains to join their service to provide the digital banking. they choose stellar as their main blockchain. this means that loyyal could also be a toke on stellar. as it makes more sense.

either way, i think rbr will need to stay on a blockchain in order to have a permissionless and inresputable ledge rewards or points what they call it.

loyyal is also just a name. a name of a company that is providing a service. the service that is trying to improve the rewards points that costumers gain using services. so loyyal is a company aiming to be the go to for services that what to use and are using rewarding systems. To have them multi-million users and give them the ability to trade from one service rewards to an other then they will need to have blockchain distribution solution. thus loyyal will definitely be needing to use a common blockchain. 

question still remains. will it be rbr or expanse token or stellar token. and why we have all these uncertainties all over again about the future of rbr coins

I think it's worth the community knowing I heard today that Christopher Franco is now not working with Loyyal. I don't know anymore than that.

please sell it, i now have moved my buy orders to 20-30 sats i hope it gets filled. once rbr is exchanged to loyyal the price will increase eventually.

Only FUD and troll into this thread because that person want to buy more cheap RBR and have no knowledge what happening in real world, there is no doubt only weak hands will cry later so just hold and wait for their proposal than you will know that how worthy that coin is.

I suspect faul play here. There is no other explanation why the dump continues lower and lower. Somebody knows something.

Perhaps the RBR tokens will be depreciated, perhaps something else. I don't know.

I still think it's a good bet but proceed with caution.

:-)

No more Newbie post allowed...unless its a reasonable post.

Please! delete all the messanges from the FUD guys

we should concentrate on the facts, and not at the "silly newbie FUD accounts" !

i hope we will get something for our RBR :) İ bought today again

Nothing is guaranteed in crypto but I'm pretty sure that's a wise move, especially considering the big drop in a btc. I would love to buy more at these levels but I'm out of btc.

People were laughing at me when I said I was done buying at the 250 level. This is why you should always diversify, never invest more than you can lose.. especially in a speculative high risk coin like this. I'm not gonna sell the RBR that I have, but neither am I going to buy any more. It is and always was a gamble.. I do believe loyyal has huge potential, that doesn't mean RBR does. But I'm holding mine nevertheless, in case it does blow up.

What changed about the project between now and 400 sats a week or two ago?

Short term price changes are nothing more than short term price changes. Assuming the conversion goes positively 1000 sats will be dirt cheap IMO. What is about short term price moves that makes people act like they are sudden geniuses to judge the value of a project or not? The people following this thread should we thanking the stars for knowing about this project and its recent developments before the majority on this board do. Its a tiny minority that is looking at this project and trading and an even smaller minority that 'gets' it.

i think we will get something for our rbr .... "We'll be announcing a proposal soon!"

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/744552929659600896

yeah nice news.
BTW what do you guys think is a good price to buy RBR.

We don't know exactly how the Ribbert Reward Tokens will be converted to the new Expanse/ETH chain. Thats the fact. But assuming it goes reasonably well and we have a true conversion and not some piecemeal deal I would say this project is STUPIDLY UNDERVALUED. I see this as worth 10m market cap with potential to grow much more. So if everything goes well anything under 1000 sats will be a steal and even below 5000 sats IMO. I tend to look at the long term not just a few weeks though.

exactly i think so too. its a great project but lets see how the swap will happen. i try to get more cheap rbr

nagi can you please stop being redundant?

Guess what: The cake is big enough for two loyalty programs.

Gosh...

For fucks sake, I'll bite and if you ever post this cut and paste again I will delete anything you ever post 100%


The card you mention works just like a credit card does and like many credit cards they give discounts or in this case a small amount of points. BUT Loyyal platform is nothing remotely similar apart from the fact they are trying to reward Loyalty. You miss understand the concept of Loyyal. Loyyal is a dynamic loyalty program that can award points for behaviours that don't even involve a paymnet. The point is a company is not looking to hand out points that can be spent somewhere else but is trying to work across the supply chain of their business. So with Dubai points say you stay in one of the hotels in the program and then you gain points that you could use in another of their hotels or booking flights into Dubai, or spending points at a Dubai store. Plus the app will not be just a two dimensional loyalty card but will know things like your location, or time of day to suggest offers etc....My understanding is not complete but it's clear the platform is far more than a credit card giving a micro payment like food stamps.


Having said all this I'm  sure their card IF anyone uses it is a great product BUT it in no way affects the business and clients that are attracted to Loyyal. Plus the app can be branded so to Dubai points it looks like a Dubai points app or to another company say or another industry it looks like their app. Small micro paymnets this isn't, it's using smart contracts and colored coins to give very specific rewards...though are interchangeable.


Loyyal already has made real world clients of some of biggest companies in the world, companies almost as big as an Amazon but so far people haven't clicked with that cause they are not household names, but are major conglomerates, names like a unilver and Deloitte....billion dollar companies. They already have the business connections. But finally you point is like saying if one hotel is popular then no other hotels cant make money....it's so stupid it's absurd, which is why I know you just grabbed some Google search to FUD. You are also saying a Bitcoin credit card is the same as a specif loyalty program...again not worth talking about. How easy do you think it will be to get the average person to use a Bitcoin credit card rather than a normal credit card that also gives discounts? With Loyyal people won't even know they are using a cryptocurrency, they will just be told hey download this app sign at the airport or as they book online or at the hotel to enjoy discounts on their trip. Easy to onboard people, and people will be motivated to use the points as it means direct savings to activities they are likely to engage in or can be suggested to engage in. That is what Loyyalty is all about and it is why companies are rapidly being partners with Loyyal. The fact the Governmnet of Dubai has signed up should mean this project is top 20 already but people aren't sure how the conversion will go. When they do ai expect a moon shot. I suggest buying now instead of this BS FUD or you will miss the train.


Now piss off...nobody feed this idiot please.

While I was very crudely trying to get across the complexity of the platform Loyyal posted a blog post that explains it perfectly....


Very much worth a read.


https://medium.com/@Loyyal/dubai-points-looking-to-the-future-of-loyalty-250e12c3a2e5#.owf85tvuy

I'm not going to delete your post above because it shows you are a dickless fool with no idea..... ;D



*But anything else will be deleted, you made your point poorly so no more...And well done for being possibly the most annoying poster to read on this forum....excruciating English.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0lWICH3rY

Stopped reading when you said "I think it's difficult that Loyyal makes people download an application."

You are seriously the most retarded troll I've ever come across. You have no ammo in bashing Loyyal, so you're constantly making up nonsense. Fuck off.

Delete your account.

 

What I find exciting about the project is that assuming it works like the team thinks it will, giving increased and tailored customer satisfaction and increased profits for brands then I don't see how it can fail. It means a brand be it a small or large company wouldn't really have any reason not to sign up, no company won't want to increase its profits and customer service reach. If it works then I expect it to grow like wildfire.

I think Loyyal as a company won't be that focused on the value of tokens for their profits but more getting paid to tailor and manage their platform for individual companies or entities and maybe taking a small cut of increased profits...that's my hunch. If Dubai points is successful for all involved you can expect a flood of tourist zones from getting onboard. The opportunities are massive from having a city points system like 'New York' points that gave discounts from taxis to coffee shops to a specialised area like Music for example if somone goes to see an artist the they instantly get a discount on buying their album online. In a decade you never know you might see a Loyyal sign on the window of half the shops you go to.

https://medium.com/@Loyyal/dubai-points-looking-to-the-future-of-loyalty-250e12c3a2e5#.f6hbjqhqj

If you put 1000's of RBR up for sale @1BTC/RBR it's easy to have this kind of sell support lol.  :D :D

There's no such thing as game over here. Loyyal confirmed several times a proposal / conversion will be made. They are not just a "dev team" pushing buttons and doing some marketing like most coins.They have an actual company, with actual real life connections to billion dollar companies. How you trolls keep looking for food here is beyond me.

Expect news very soon... As in the next few days/week.

Of course as we don't know the conversion to the new chain there are a few unknowns but seriously LOOK at the quality of the people involved now!!!

http://www.loyyal.com/team.html


THIS is no bitcointalk shitcoin even though its priced as one right now which is ridiculous but only temporary  ;)


*Try not to quote the trolls too much, I'm deleting their posts but I can't sit on here all day and do it....

By the way,is Dubai point a colored coin of LOYYAL?
Can LOYYAL exchange for Dubai point?

Where is that exchanged?

My simple understanding about colored coins is that they are an extra layer on top of a blockchain coin, but it doesn't seperate it from the other coins but assigns it a description in some way....I could be wrong so would appreciate more knowledgable opinion. Plus I don't know how colored coins work on the Eth chain.

Loyyal on the exchages are still called Ribbet Rewards, Bittrex is the major exchange.

thanks!
Is this white paper of LOYYAL?
Did the specifications change?

http://bravenewcoin.com/assets/Whitepapers/ribbit-white-paper.pdf

not with Ribbet Rewards but the plan is to swap the tokens to an Eth clone. Expanse was made for this purpose susposedly. It's the only reason why this isn't in the top 20 coins, people aren't sure how the conversion will affect the tokens value. I'm optimistic....some aren't.

WoW and again big news for loyyal, they have now 20 big guys in this company like guys from the wall street, the master card ceo and so on, how can they pay all these people?  :o

That big guys wouldnt join this company, when they wouldnt be sure that this thing will be the next "facebook like" thing, right?


btw. is this Dubai Points thing now for 100% sure? I have the feeling there is something more that we knew now.



Loyyal Further Expands Global Presence with Two Senior Appointments

http://www.menafn.com/1094823393/Loyyal-Further-Expands-Global-Presence-with-Two-Senior-Appointments


Chairman of the Wall Street Blockchain Alliance Joins Loyyal

http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/chairman-of-the-wall-street-blockchain-alliance-joins-loyyal/

This is new for me, what is the source?

It could explain Franco's involvement in both projects, and would make Expanse massively undervalued as well.

Not Expanse will be or is at the moment massively undervalued, it is Loyyal with this big team behind of wall street people.

This coin has about 0.1% here on bitcointalk on the radar, but i predict that this coin will be in the next 12 month in the TOP 5 on coinmarketcap.

The dubai points will be the breakthrough.

Just with the team behind Loyyal, it should not be difficult for them to raise eight digit sums of capital from venture capitalists for the next funding round.

Well, some traction would help, but even without any traction yet, the trend is on their side and investors are looking under every stone for great opportunities such as this one.

Edit: Actually, partnerships such as with the Dubai Foundation are great forms of traction already.

On their ayoutube videos and I think on their blogs and Twitter. It won't have any effect on Expanse, it will be a fork of Eth, like Expanse is...but not actually Expanse. Christopher Franco I assume helped them with this.

Once we get decent news on the conversion I personally bet we will go up massively, I mean 500% in one day. The everyone will be talking about Loyyal suddenly overnight.

Yes, you are right - I finally got convinced!

If I were you, I would tell your friend to sell his coins as fast as possible - the bad news might come any day!

I wrote with Loyyal on FB:

LOYYAL on FACEBOOK
1152 Personen gefällt das
Organisation




when is the announcement about RBR..?
https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/744552929659600896
Loyyal on Twitter
“@Followtoptrader We'll be announcing a proposal soon!”
twitter.com


Thanks for messaging us. We are a small and expanding team so we try to be as responsive as possible. We'll get back to you as soon as we can.

Thanks so much for being part of the loyyal growth!

We are working on our proposal and enacting out a timeline.
There has been no confirmation over what the proposal for the blockchain will include.

cuz you are stupid to register a newbie account for fudding

https://twitter.com/FedKassad/status/747450493950103552

lets focus and ask them. retweet it or comment

My Prediction is over 500 sat. this week. (it will never fall under 100 sat. anymore  ;))


This week will be maybe the switching to loyyal and some new news about Dubai Points Pilot Project (Dubai is the fourth largest tourist city in the world)


btw. there are today some nice news about loyyal in china.

http://www.tripvivid.com/articles/7090

Ok,  ::) lol.

It makes no sense to explain it to you.

You have some very fascinating ideas I would love to hear more about what you think.....please tell us more about how The Dubai Government, Unilever and Deloitte are wrong and you are right...please tell us more Professor nagi10.

No time for comments from me.

I am accumulate the whole time   :)

My opinion about nagi 10 : I never saw such an moron.....

@dannyman : Thank you for you posts y work and your patience with the FUD!
I appreciate your try to keep the LOYYAL ANN clean  :)

TMTPOST a chinese website wrote today:

In addition Loyyal Future Foundation in cooperation with the Dubai launch of the "Dubai integration", the other six blocks chain pilot projects are proposed by the Assembly on health records, to protect the diamond trade, transfer of ownership, business registration, improving transport and digital wills.

http://www.tmtpost.com/2399239.html


and dubai pr network wrote this 1 hour ago

http://www.dubaiprnetwork.com/pr.asp?pr=111408


I think loyyal take over dubai.  ;D

lol this guy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--hMJPUBwMc

i hope we get news soon

Loyyal confirmed there wil be an ann this week via fb.

Was it via a personal message?, I don't see anything on their FB wall.

Care to share?

New news about loyyal  :D

Loyyal at Foundry 50 Lions Innovations Event in Cannes

https://medium.com/@Loyyal/loyyal-at-foundry-50-lions-innovations-event-in-cannes-42e760663763#.6nwgb2few

http://i67.tinypic.com/21btc14.png

I asked the question because of the announcement there would be proposal soon...

very nice thanks!!!

I am very curious  :)

Boom!

well I guess this week we either become richer or poorer!

Thanks for this, this mean today or in the next 2 days we will see how much loyyal we will get for our RBR.  :)

I hope it will be 1:1

Don't want to burst the bubble here, buuuut... They "kind of" said the same thing the weekend before. Although the answer then was open to interpretation, now it's just "Yes". Nothing to misinterpret  :D
Let's wait patiently however and not panic if it takes a few more days than expected. 'Deadlines' are rarely kept in crypto  ;)

Did they? Don't you mean when they said they were going to announce a proposal 'soon'


IF so soon is pretty vague, this week isn't......but yeah I wouldn't hold my breath but then again these guys seem like they are trying at least to be professional so if they say they will do something I assume they most likely will.


Trading movements will be interesting the next few days. Time for trading games is over, it's like Brexit you have to either be in or out now if you want to ride the move whatever direction that is.... ;D

"Brexit" , that's a good comparison :)

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/744552929659600896

we should like or share this, if LOYYAL will not answer our question about RBR in the next days

We have here some interesting tweets from loyyal

https://twitter.com/safwanzaheer

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp


btw. someone just bought rbr for over 6 btc on bittrex  :o

yes, confirmed!

moontime for RBR  ;)

wow so close to finally getting some insight. they know perfectly well they own us some closure.

they spent a lot of time giving speeches in all corners of the world about RBR, Marketplace and the donations. Lets see if they feel just as strong about RBR now. They are smart. They had a lot of bitcoin consulting so i am sure they understand the difference between permissionless blockchain and centralized one.

They are growing too big to put their face on a closed token. they must use a block chain, and this one must be strong one. I dont think they will put what can possible be a billion dollar bussines plan on top of expanse. No offense Franko and the expanse team. perhaps in future but for now the Loyyalcorp must use a much stronger one.

i can't await for their announcement anymore. been too long a guessing game.

i gotta say, what ever they use, it will be a cryptocoin or a token. Most likely a token.


biased speculation:
Since it has taken them for ever to come forth and tell us their stance on RBR, it makes all the sense that they will allow a swap. I would imagine they had to spend a lot of time to figure out how to do this. How can they trade RBR for a token. Hence the time has gone passed as they probably were figuring out how to do the swap.

I just can't possibly see them flat out dropping RBR when they spend almost a year going from conference to conference pumping ribbitrewards blockchain. doing a free airdrop, a pay air drop and promise a marketplace for these token to be used for.

No way they can just rebrand and move over

i think they have split the team into two branches, the outsourcing and the blockchain. The outsourcing is what we see loyyal has become and the blockchain is what ribbit.me is all about and it will be explained to us soon what it means in regards to RBR

I accept we might get some dilution from Ribbet rewards to New chain but actually I would argue we shouldn't have to. Loyyal was susposed to be a rebranding and was labelled as such up until recently on their media online. Plus the move to a new chain was susposed to be simply that, a 'move' to a new blockchain....nothing was said about their are abandoning Ribbertrewards Rewards and starting a new project. The amount Ribbet Rewards hold is honestly quite substantial , along the lines of Ripple so they don't really need to dilute its users share or throw them under a bus.....fingers crossed.

Looking forward to this announcement!

It is good that someone just dumped 5 million rbr on bittrex,

because it is better for us when he dumped now and buy back at 500 sat.  :),
and with the dump new people have now 5 million rbr and are now in the game.

i agree!

I think the panic guy with the 33 mil. RBR is empty now ;D

Someone had 33 mil. RBR?

I cant see it on bittrex, the top holder has now only 15 mil.

He dumped that 33 mil. RBR already? lol he will cry in a few weeks.  ;D when this think hit 4000 sat. (10 mil. marketcap)

There must be some who bought at sub 30 sats a while ago that simply can't risk losing the gain they have made.....or they are stupid.  ;D

Many FUDers are here, be careful!
And one big holder got panic, that's the reason for the cheap coins atm , IMHO!

I analysed the Bittrex wallets a very long time!
The result is that many whales accumulate RBR!
altogether the big wallets were less, but the small wallets(4 - 9 mill.) are increasing!
The big holders split their RBR in different wallets, because many guys are observing the wallets.(IMHO)

Seriously, I trace RBR since the beginning of LOYYAL!
I believe in the developer, and see the progress.

Sure you have (who is we, your imaginary friend?) 9.8 mil RBR.  ::)

btw. this are only 16.5 BTC at 170 sat. so who cares?

But i bet that you dont have even 1 mil. RBR. Not even 100k.   ;)

Duh if you sell now you'll an opportunity to make good money, Once RBR is converted or exchanged to Loyyal the price will increase significantly.

From 9.8 Mil. to 5 Mil. lol

but like i say, who cares, at this marketcap this are peanuts.

Sell it and leave, bye. :) (and buy back at 4000 sat.  ;))

I know I really should really delete your posts but sometimes you are just too funny to delete... ;D

Plus you bump the thread so more people can see what is 'hopefully' about to happen...so thanks

if you ask me it looks like a pump and dump game by a/some big whales.
maybe there are more of them, but fact is that the large wallets are getting larger.
Some months ago I had a little bit less token than I have today, but I lost minimum 5 ranks (according to the ranks of strongest wallets).
That means that the whales are still accumulating. Therefore they trie to make a bad short term reputation in some treads to bring the market down, and buy cheap.
If there was someone with more ribbits than today, the reason could be: he created more than one account and dumped mainly to him self to spread the coins to different wallets.

In my mind the interest in the coin is still rising. Comparing the total market transaction volume - it´s still increasing, even the price drops.
Whales saw positive feedback in forum and the pump to 500+ so they tried to keep the price down and bring people to sell the coin.
Maybe they have more information than we have (according to the timeline of rebranding and bringing Loyyal to Poloniex). So they trie to accumulate more of the coins and when there is a new high (between 500 & 1k sat) they will use the markets volubility to bring the price to a hyping level. Then lot`s of people are happy to see the old highs again. They will get out and the selling-walls will melt. Then it`s easy for people with large BTC wallets to bring the coin to the top 10-15 and they will be rich and even they sell a part of it they can start the game with a other coin.

It`s just all about time. If we are to emotional and react on price fluctuations like they wish, they will win.
But if we wait and think long term - Loyyal really could be a big thing in 2016

Best wishes,
Liljames

I find it funny that every one is talking about whales when holding "large" RBR amounts,
this coin was traded for 20 sats, so the whales buy the large amount for 1-2 BTC.

So the most "big" holder arent whales, this are small fishes.
But i see that some people are setting buy orders with 10-20 btc yesterday and in the last weeks, maybe this are some small whales that are trying to buy a little bit.

I can only say, that this project will have (with high probability) the next 1 Billion Dollar Marketcap.

@ifightformerkel

you are right - the coin was at 20 sat when lot of us bought it.
But if you are one of the main holders of a coin you have market power like a whale.
Off course there are also small fishes, but small fishes react more emotional. That means, that if the price goes up a lot - they will sell (because lot of people just buy coins when they are cheap, without knowing the potential) and they will sell if the price drops significant, because they are afraid to loose more in BTC value (also because they don`t know anything about the long term potential). If someone has really lot´s of BTC (maybe also bought when it was 10 dollar) they can ignore short term pricing and they will use their market power to get more of the coins, they wish to pump in future.
But fact is, that the large wallets are still growing. So the smaller wallets are selling, while the "whales (please find a better name for significant players) " are still accumulating.

I also see that amount of potential, but not before a full rebranding and a switch to the other exchanges.
Maybe we`ll see up to 5 Mio in market cap before rebranding, but who knows. But Loyyal said, there is a 1:1 change to the new token (if the ribbit token, doesn`t get integrated in the block chain), so as long there is no re-branding people will use the time to accumulate more of the token.

Loyyal does a lot in the direction of business development. That`s good for long term. So I don`t mind if it`s not technically polished now, because if it workes, there are so many use-cases (and it´s easier to get/use it than BTC). Moreover people hold BTC because they are afraid of selling it to cheap. Loyyal token, you`ll get automatically if you buy products and use services in future. And because of a market place integration, it´s easy to buy stuff with tokens and it`s easy to spread them. Moreover Loyyal will take profit on the BTC rise and blockchain technology hype and is at the moment ranked as the 53rd most important blockchain business (http://richtopia.com/companies/top-100-blockchain).

So there are lot`s of long term future prospectives, but let`s wait for the re-branding, then price will go up automatically to new higher highs :)

Scooping up all the RBR under 150 sats still.

Many thanks weak hands! Rest assured that you wont regret selling now when this coin has its first 20x day.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

 me too :)

It is funny that one guy from a competitive company spreading with several accounts 24h bs here.

But with this guys LOYYAL did it already, they attracts the competitive.  :)

Nice interview with loyyal on mx.com


Banks Should Be Experience Providers, and Blockchain Can Help

https://www.mx.com/moneysummit/banks-should-be-experience-providers-and-blockchain-can-help

The smart people block out the negative posts they see on the boards here. Just evaluate the tech / program / leadership / transparency and you can see why. 

I refuse to pay the troll toll!

What would be good is if people tried not to refer to them or quote them so I can cleanly delete them. I admit sometime they are too entertaining and retarded not to draw a response.  :D

ideally you want new comers to look at this thread and read only pure factual information so they can quickly realise what an amazing project this is. Al long as we get a decent conversion I swear this is a top 10 project...not based on speculation but on actual real money that will flow to the project. The OK on the new chain is going to be explosive...

Dont delete his messages, rather report them to the Bitcointalk moderators. They will ban him after warning him.

Can you ban someone? Anyway what's the point somone can make a sock puppet in less than a minute. They are technically allowed to come out with stupid crap, being retarded is not a crime sadly...


Anyway I'm done talking about trolls, that's what they want....ignore, don't quote, don't mention...they will be deleted...it's the best you can do on here...

Any news from LOYYAL about swap, where is the announcement ?

Iam also waiting for the ann.

They say it will be this week.

btw. maybe you can retweet ^^

https://twitter.com/WhalePump/status/748984357302468609

Loyyal ‏@LoyyalCorp  13m13 minutes ago
@WhalePump We're expecting to make an announcement on this next week. Sorry for the delay! Have a great weekend!

NEXT WEEK!!!

"On this next week" What does that even mean, Is it an Americanism?

Does it mean this week.....or next week?  ::)


I know we shouldn't assume anything but Loyyals tone, use of exclamation marks and being positive and friendly suggests to me they think we would be happy with the coming news......either that or that are socially Autisic or something.  ;D  

I'm quietly optimistic we will get good news.  

next week means literally the other week. so anywhere between the upcoming monday to sunday. ( or sunday to saturday , depending how they define the start of a week)

whats more important here. that "soon"became "next week" as this means they are much more closer to being ready to make a statement.

this is great news. as this was officially over tweeter for all to see rather then a private PM for an individual.

time to grab some pop corn.

i think the loyyal are watching all these topic closely. as we are watching theirs.

Loyyal is recruiting some serious professionals into their team. But the question truly remains: Which network are they going to use.

they have been claiming they will use the blockchain tech but aside bitcoin's i cant see to understand which network they will use that is strong enough to stay alive.

with all that money that they are investing on loyyal, i dont see how they can use a barely tested bitcoin 2.0

they should be better off with either a token over bitcoin's or stick with rbr and hope miners jump in and secure it with proper hashrate.


seriously loyyal. both Bob and franko are not your lead dev or advisors anymore. perhaps they also are expressing my opinion  ;)

choose your next step wisely. otherwise you will have to stop claiming you will be a blockchain tech, when you will be ontop off some centralized coin.

The team do have tech personal even if they don't have Chris Franco....he might of exaggerated his role anyway as he seems only an advisor. From YouTube talks they said they would use ETH fork as a more long term stable chain but that was back when doubts were surrounding BTC longevity and everyone was crazy about ETH tech. Personally whatever they decide is fine by me, the amount of coins and conversion is more my concern.

Plus I'm not as wedded to the idea that every blockchain project needs to be decentralised, in fact they need some control with loyalty points I think...I don't see this as strictly a currency like BTC.


http://loyyal.com/team.html

i understand perfectly what you mean. and i think you understand me.

the point is not that, they replaced franko or bob (before franko) . the point is that they replaced (either loyyal did or they left) two people who are about the crypto movement/decentralization. well at least based on their actions so far from these two.

anyways we are here solely to find out the future of rbr first, than loyyal's

ps: blockchain project needs decentralization. other wise is a centralized sql ledger database which can be hacked/change/controlled/stirred on a whimp

All good. Just sharing ideas..cant type on phone now.

3.5 million just got dumped.

Glad to have caught some of that.  ;D

Why would anyone sell now? Bizarre...

Not really. Price was hovering between 150 to 160 sats for about a week and a half. Decent profit to be made if one was accumulating during that time.

But yeah, probably better off to hold until there is better liquidity.

News could come literally any minute now and if you are caught picking up dimes in front of a steam roller which Is how I see trading now you will be screwed and miss the bigger picture....each to their own though.

Is there a block explorer for RBR? I hear people saying that the total amount of coins on coinmarketcap is incorrect but I cannot find the explorer.

https://ribbitchain.info/blocks
http://altcoin.expert/ribbitrewards_mining
https://ribbitchain.info/

I'm not sure the blockchain will help you. The issue is Cryptsy was hacked at a time when many people were holding RR on there. What has become of these coins and if they ever can ever be recovered seems unclear. What it means if they aren't recoverable is that the current price is even cheaper than how Coinmarketcap calculates it....which is cheap as hell anyway to be honest.

The bigger question is how will RR tokens be converted to Loyyal tokens, will they pull a fast one and dilute our share in the conversion or not.......that as they say is the big question. We will find out soon it seems.

Hi,

I'm new to Loyyal/RibbitRewards and got a problem...Since I'm planning to get some RibbitReward Tokens I just tried to make an account for the digital wallet, but the creation of a new account is "temporary closed".
Any infos/tips why I can't make an account? Is there no desktop solution? There is no Loyyal wallet yet right?

Best and only way that I know of atm is from bittrex exchange. RBR market buy it with bitcoin.

Well congrats for finding and choosing this project as one of your first crypto investments.

IMO a wise choice.

I am using bittrex exchange + 2fa atm.


i agree, a wise choice atm !

Joined the group. Bought some for 230 satosh each. Let's see :)

This is the major question and the thing that will make current RBR holders happy or sad.

It's obvious IMHO , that a few guy's are interested to hold the price down!
It's always the same, very big sell orders in the order book, but suddenly they are disappeared...


A guy wrote on Bitttex:
Suns0fKayotees:    shorts, rbr at these prices isn't much of a gamble imo

Where on Bittrex? Bittrex does not have a trollbox.

Let them keep the price down :) Will give me time to buy more. From what I have seen it is about a 50/50% gamble to either make HUGE HUGE profit, or bust. It seems like a good EV+ gamble.

Not a lot of time left to buy cheap.....any day now we will get an an announment that either moons the prices or makes it crash IMO. Assuming we get decent news I believe the price will start a journey to around 5m market cap...I see that as a conservative starting point considering where the project is now.

https://cryptrader.com/charts/bittrex/rbr/btc

(below)

They aren't really keep the price down, its an old trading trick to set up 2 accounts and buy and sell a couple of Bitcoin to yourself. Then rush in and buy what the sheeple put up on the sell wall. It's amateur hour but it works on newbies.

I have a current digital wallet But when I tried to login it wouldn't let me even with a backup. I have also tried to create a new account on a different computer and browser. I get the same "temporarily closed" message.

I have a considerable amount of RBR in the online wallet.

I too wonder what is going on?

yeah i dont feel comfortable having rbr on exchange for so long. its been a roller coaster really. ribbit.me should open up the wallet and allow users to move their coins over their own holding...

News coming this week on that so hold tight. They might be making the conversion and can access Loyyal tokens when they unlock the wallets for all we know.

Oh, I'm holding tight. No worries there.

Loyyal, seems to me, is a GREAT use-case for blockchain technology - immutable ledger, trustless consensus.

Although, it would be nice to hear from official sources about the status of the project. (I know many of you feel the same.)

For now, I am holding on Bittrex and have some "stuck" in my online wallet. AND I WANT MORE.

Received message today:
"We are looking to get a press release out as soon as possible which will outlay the entire plan"

Also, online wallet is working fine here.

Awesome, thanks for the update.

I also had problems with the online wallet, but then tried on another day and it worked so maybe its just an intermittent bug.

So it went from "very soon" over "next week" to "asap".

I somehow still would be surprised if the news came out this week.

Would be happy if they do so, though.

Yeah I feel the same. Not sure why they are just giving messages to some guy on Facebook either rather than actually saying something publicly.

True, can't seem to get a better answer than these vague msgs. Time will tell :D

BOO!!!

Throw us a bone Loyyal...the suspense is killing me.. :'(

waiting for news..

Mmm the price is dropping.  Time to buy some more for me.

what just happened?

omggg. EXTREM PUMP

Looks like somebody knows something.

Buyer acting like swap will be 1/1 and the roadmap will be ambitious, look for conviction bids at prior highs of 445 sats

Nothing has been released yet... Let panic ensue with the fomo of a million targaryiens! Sell nothing!

finaaaalllyyyy :)


Seems to be good news inc! :D

If anyone wants to buy RBR OTC, PM me. Im open to negotiations. I have around 250k that I am willing to part with for now.

dat pump doe  ;D

I'm excited!!

Comparing the big buy up at the beginning of june, to the buy up today.... check out the whicks on the 1h

Very nice! Lost 6 BTC yesterday with that bitcoincrash. I could use some good news :)

if it is a 1:1 swap, it's still too cheap. And the volume will bring attention to whales now  ;)

I spy bots pressing price up. There be whales in dese waters

yea rbr or loyyal is still cheap. i am thinking what would be the price after rbr is swapped to loyyal. maybe somewhere around 0.00005 ?

Wake me up when we get in the top 10 on Coinmarketcap......

Lets be clear this is just one Whale that gets it and bought more than 100btc worth....If thats not a vote of confidence I don't know what it....personally I won't be trading this rise though....

Loyyal is about to explode just bought some coins. These are still very cheap as compare it have backed by very professional and talented team. Right time to make secure your future something great going to happen there.

btw i dont know who told me to buy rbr i forgot his name. but thanks :) got it at a very cheap price. now i have my investment back and still 1m coins.
wont sell i will hold a long time now..

I was wondering the same.....I personally wouldn't think Bittrex corrupting the market so maybe there is a lag in showing the wallet? Sure would be nice to see a 100btc wallet haha.


Or they moved off exchange instantly?

Or they very calculated way bought from various accounts? seems unlikely...but then again I have felt when everyone was talking about someone dumping I was thinking the other side of that equation that someone was possibly accumulating into smaller wallets..

im bittrex you can buy and sell with the same account. so you can pump or dumb it directly to yourself

I'm not sure that's what happened here cause its in no one interst to buy 100 btc up to 800 sats....but I do think that how the market has been held down these last weeks...

There was some experiencing wallet issues but has since said it's resolved...if the chain had a problem then how would we be trading now.....

İn bittrex or any other exchange you trade only in the platform. So the blockchain isnt necessary. Only when you deposit and withdraw you need the active blockchain.

A sorry bro i thought that it was the question of dannyman. My fault.

The Digital Wallet still doesn't work for me btw....I'm unable to make a new account.  :-\

And thx to dannyman who made me check out RBR/Loyyal with his thread a few days ago. Thanks for the hint dude :)

Welcome....but beware this pump....seems artificial to me.

Your FUD is weak, get real a job if you can't handle trading crypto.

https://medium.com/@Loyyal/ribbitrewards-exempted-from-new-york-bitlicense-f4159d307392#.suxy7irwe

You obviously dont understand blockchain technology, lol.

And you created your account since yesterday???  :D :D Twat

Edit/Add: Good job following through on their promises. Curious to see where this is going.  8)

Market is already correcting... no need to FUD, its naturallllll

Let's not feed the trolls and avoid quoting them if possible otherwise I might have to delete your post as well.


What a moron suggesting you won't be able to send and trade a colored coin token....umm that's what they are for....sending.   ;D

I don't care about the price at this stage but I'm loving the volume....shows there is a lot of interest and hopefully enough regular volume to get on an exchange like Poloniex.

I stand corrected, he's not fudding. The sentence is there:
http://www.dfs.ny.gov/legal/regulations/adoptions/dfsp200t.pdf

And it means what he's saying it means. What it will mean for RBR I'm not in a position to say... But it does raise questions. Keep in mind that I'm a long time supporter.

Yeah my understanding as I read it was that because technically the tokens are given as part of loyalty 'points' and Loyyal will give points that are redeemed for services and goods but not for cash...no different to say how air miles work.....then they avoid the label 'currency' but what he said was we wouldn't be able to trade them which is BS because while Loyyal might not be able to trade them.....we can do what the hell we want with them. You simply can't stop a token moving with the blockchain so his/her point was nonsense.

To add to this....this was to get past a New York law I think. Poloniex had to stop trading to anyone who lived in New York. Luckily for cryptocurrencies the whole world doesn't act so limiting.....i.e. Stupid as NY.

I like your point of view  ;D Didn't take the time to see it that way, since I'm only on here between work, parties and the start of my holiday.  8)

I also think so.
Maybe he has more than one wallet.
Maybe also an institution (a company who cooperates with Loyyal and has some money left).
If you take a look to other coins they act in upcoming steps. This was step 2 of maybe 4 or 5 majorsteps on the price rise to heaven.
Now there is a big support on the buying side below 300 sat and some wallets are currently buying back their sold coins.
A 1k to 3k rise in short term would not wonder anyone who takes a deeper look on the coins and it`s business deals.

where is the news?

https://twitter.com/LoyyalCorp/status/748997038990393344


get your voices heard.

The news seems to be the price is rallying  :D

I swear without any hype I think if you are standing on the sidelines you better buy in now cause this seems like a steady push up now, the volume is there which is what I always look for in a genuine consistent move up. We could quite easy go over 1000 sats I think and build a base past it assuming the news is all good from Loyyal. Fingers crossed.... :D

nice price inrease  ;D

I genuinely think we will look back in a few weeks and see now is DIRT cheap.

yes thats true:) and look at volume its great

price going up.
any great news ?

Actually not but suddenly we got big volume with price increase.
İ think some insiders getting cheap coins they know something

At first I thought no that sounds like typical hype posting but then I thought IF you were part of the company and many people seems to be AND you knew they were about to release good news for holders then it would be a no brainier to buy a big chunk of tokens with btc. It also seems likely as the big buys are not so experienced as they buy up a big chunk and aren't that worried about the price. You see that in price pumps but then you always see the massive dump...So I think this is inexperienced mass buying.

Another possibility is simply a whale or two finding out about Loyyal and buying in.

I've been watching this thread for quite a while and now decided to participate in it (hence the first post). To me it looks like the market is being played big time by a whale and bot, just take a look at the increments of price increase is being used. Anyways, good to see RBR finally taking off, looking forward to the announcement!

huge sell wall @0.00000700 - 83 btc. let's see what happens. i think it's probably going to disappear. ::)

Haha I saw that too and thought I'd pop along here to see if anybody else noticed it :)

yeah, giant sellwall generally is bullish in this realm, but who knows?  could be someone actually wanting to get rid of #1 wallet on bittrex...

update:  now the rest of wallet #1 is up at 660sat.  should be an interesting day...

Shake out. I'm not considering selling until I have read the announcement.

btw pumper fontas is in LOYYAL (@realfontas)

Obviously that kind of wall has one purpose, to push the price down. As I always say in this situation don't look a gift or in the mouth and call their bluff if you got the btc.

Some chat about trading is cool but let's not turn this thread into constant trade talk like buy at 700 sell at 800. The point of the thread is to discuss and inform new people about Loyyal/ribbets....a thread of pages of trade talk makes that hard.


Over the top FUD and Hype will be deleted.....especially from newbie accounts.

I checked his Twitter...calling him a pumper seems subjective unless you know something I don't. He just seems to be discussing alts. Some hardcore whale players have moved into Loyyal though it seems. Short term I couldn't give a crap personally.

Fontas was the infamous LTC pumper back in the day. His twitter says he's now doing long-term investing in legit projects. I don't know if it is him though, but he called the Sia rise last months.

I wanted to let everyone at this thread know First
http://en.acnnewswire.com/press-release/english/31082/loyyal-announces-plans-for-ribbitrewards


Visit the new site here: http://synrg.tech

Join the slack, be part of the discussion.

-Shannon code

woww another pump :D

Wow. Big news

wowww we need to get more coins i knew that something was going on

can this news be seen negative ? (rbr price has dropped since announcement)


----------------------
How will the upgrade work?

You do not need to take any action if you already have some amount of RibbitRewards. Those rewards will be forever known as nRg Vouchers. Some time in the future, you will have the ability to transfer nRg to some location in exchange for the syn'Rg reward type.

it seems like RBR won't be a part of Loyyal blockchain . They consider RBR as a LEGACY chain

and RBR will only be big if it will be swapped to Loyyal chain. Loyyal is the one we care here

look like a bad news to me. That's why people are dumping it T_T

Fuck them, they threw us under a bus.....I'm out of here.


If these big dumps were Loyyal guys pumping and then dumping their coins then its a double fuck you to them...


Basically they have palmed the project off to the tech staff to play with but it seems to me the tokens will now be worthless...the examples of what the tokens could be used for are laughable.


A reward program to reward my kids for doing projects on Khan Academy
Rewards for brushing your teeth every day.
Badges for checking off items from a bucket list.
Virtual scavenger hunt (VR meets IRL)
Virtual Travel Bug for GEO-Caching



GEo-Caching...give me a fucking break!!!

The old chain will go away, a swap into Rewards programs created by me on the Loyyal platform. Any other programs on the platform will have the option to accept rewards from this new program. If a grocery store say decides to accept any rewards issued within the Loyyal platform, they will accept syn'Rg issued rewards as well.

Seems like RBR will now be some kind of hobby project for one of the lead developers.

I sold everything.

Me too I couldn't see quick enough though....oh well. This will go to sub 50 sats I'm sure....im not going to buy back cause I see nothing of value in this NRG bullshit.

Yeah but who the fuck wants NRG rewards? Its not as you say....it looks like its walled off...

Yep, wtf is that lol. Fuck that.

This sadly reminds me of Getgems. Guys come to this forum grab btc to fund their project and then do a bait and switch and go make something that enriches themselves only...fuck em.


Karma is a bitch though.....they know they are assholes.

Can you even believe the logos the guy thought looked good.....fucking hell. They looked like pic art on windows 95.

Seems like RBR just got thrown in the bin.

rbr got fucked unfortunately. at least i made profit

Nothing is walled off. Any rewards programs can *by design* accept other rewards issued by other programs. The model is pretty simple and will be easy for other programs to say yes to.

I am also out. Sad that this nagi guy in the end was right, lol.

nope thx I'm out as well  :-\

hahahaha you are right  ;D

I think they don't understand the concept... Loyyal will be a network and NRG will be part of that. What is so hard to understand?

at least most of us had thanks to dannyman a low buyin price. so still profit

hehehe They are idiots I just bought a ton cheap. They don't get this is how we will be part of Loyyal platform. The tokens will be transferable across EVERY single brand who get involved and allows cross use of tokens. i.e. Even an airline will be happy to take them IF they have value which they will!!!!

Buy you fools. This is the 1:1 transfer that was hoped for.

NOOOOOOO this is simply how people can earn more NRG tokens. I assume from the large amount of Ribber rewards from before that they kept back. Look these tokens will be usable across ALL brands that accept cross brands which will be MOST of them. This IS the universal token and now we who own them have a massive stash of them. If say an airline accepts them or whatever accepts them you can buy SOOOO much with them. The value is going to moon once people get their heads around it.


So all these brands including Dubai points can accept across other brands, thats the beauty of this platform. People will hate themselves once the penny drops. people have misunderstood the announcement clearly.

At least you created a new account for this positive post of yours. Rbr is dead, you can buy my leftovers.

Buy the bags then. You are at the mercy of other future reward programs. They will decide if your RBR bags will be worth something.

You are not getting it are you. This is simply how Ribbet Rewards will be accepted on the loyal platform. This was always the best case scenario. Any separate brand who is involved will more than likely want to accept tokens from other brands, I mean why wouldn't they as long as they they have a value. I'm sorry people don't understand what this means but I think they will soon. We can use these NRg points in any brand involved, so we can use them for Dubai hotels or Dubai airline or whatever brand is part of program.

Dev funds show zero.

Enjoy developers.

Rdm47etpFbHy28JU1JqBpHLcHg4WHPBUts
RbwtjcTSaeSdN5VyeCVr4nnJnreoYWGmKp
RZdHNW718iGAhHMXQeSzoYx76d7nd1xrct
RgAxojSSx18Suj7Gqk7iy4s4hwZ3E1LWnc
RiNuxLzz8o1UUibq4ojaLpah8YLJZDYrfa
Rsb9MiReeJZ3rQjCMhZwNqxRXtMvTUA4in
rd492wPGAXPQoJpR5nUVm61yS8EBsqcYAw

Do people understand this concept? Ok so of a brand wants to reward a certain behavior it MUST give something i.e. They must give a token, they know this token will or will not be redeemed but they know they have to pay once redeemed. So other programs also have to add monetary value to offer rewards, so what is cleaver  is now different brands can accept other tokens knowing they have monetary value because someone else has added that value. As holders of many tokens we now can redeem them in ALL brands as its in a campaniles interst to accept token redemption where they originated with them or not, they get the same benefit i.e. They have a customer.

Please think dearly through what I am saying, many will be upset soon once they realize their tokens are now part of the universal platform across ALL brands.

Let's hear more from the new developer. He I assume has taken charge of the old Ribbet rewards tokens.

If I am loyyal investor I run away.

Wow, that dumping is as bad as the old-school Mintpal insta-dumps... Assessment of the future for RBR holders?  Looks pretty lame to me at first glance.

A full analysis of the chain, balances and activity will be performed. I'm also working on identifying cryptsy wallets.

Admin, remove this topic in the trash scam

You need to stick around here and help people understand why this is good and not shit.

Care to speak about the developer funds?

Holy hell, that was one almighty dump but not as low as it could have gone although I think it could still go down to double digits.  Just one big mess right now confidence is shot.

You can now suck it Danny Boy. You don't know anything.

Everyone else don't listen to Danny Boy I told you this was going to happen.

One big scam Greg Simon pulled on everyone

We've been waiting long for this announcement! I am glad the website covers the most important things right in the beginning, such as.. the logo!

https://s32.postimg.org/ep1yfqq6d/cheers.jpg

 ;D ;D

(sorry Shannon, nothing personal here :))

Check RBR too for the latest lie from Loyyal. Its a fucking shame. I'm out.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857452.new#new

He might as well run off with Garza, I believe he is also over in Dubai.

Sean Dennis is equally complicit. I trusted them and was about to buy in big time, and then I saw the fucking brand change on Coinmarketcap! I contacted Greg and got the story, he said he would announce and fix it. I instantly warned everyone in my group (Facebook group with 6100 traders in it)  that I sold. I had no idea they would do an exit pump of course, so I just sold right away at a loss when I found out there is no future in these projects, it is just about the VC money. Partners will abandon ship soon enough once they realize they have been duped. Don't blame anyone tricked by Greg though, he scammed the Satoshi Round table into thinking he was legit, he is a pro conman.

I also know they were lying to their workers and threatening them with Lawsuits, but at this point they will be too busy with their own soon enough.  

https://s31.postimg.org/63lpl5izv/13653369_606697669507230_4880100272022522152_o.jpg

Shannon Code, that sounds like a real name.

(lol)

I agree 100%

This is all FUD. Don't be fooled. We have tokens that are very valuable on the Loyyal network.

Nagi, dont take this the wrong way dude.. but you exhibit the signs of a truly worthless piece of shit. No one cares about your FUD Gtfo - And if you were the one selling your 1.5 mill rbr at 200 sats a week ago, I bet you cried when you saw the pump. Sweet tears of the troll.

People that got wrecked buying after a 300% + day, it sucks yeah everyones had those days but lesson learned... Dont trade on hype, DYOR take your investment out when you can and ride free bags... Its a winning strategy and keeps you liquid enough to get on the next bandwagon.

Ok. now RBR is done and how about loyyal when it will live? and where to buy loyyal tokens? :)

There won't be any loyyal tokens

Shannon Code (genecyber) is worthless noob with no business run cryptocurrency. I think someone hack premine! Probably Scammer Greg Simon.

Loyyal make very bad decision over and over.

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Someone bought 5 btc of ribbit at 173 satoshi.

Yes. It's like NXT saying 'OK Guys, thanks for your VC funds we got from IPO and now we will launch NXT2 but you won't get your money or even a fair exchange to NXT2. No, instead you will get some worthless tokens running on the NXT2 platform run by one of our staffers that you fricken paid for in his spare time.

Unless I have missed something?

Look exactly same to me

Loyyal lawsuit soon

Why so much fud in here. What is the reason for that? Is there anything wrong going on? Initially everyone posted positive things about LOYYAL.

Do you realize that Nrg has nothing to do with Loyyal? It's not like you have a stake in Loyyal (which is a promising project) when you have RBR/NRG tokens.

No FUD. Just a reasonable question. Yesterday RBR block chain represented a sizeable stake in Loyyal. Today it has been given away by Loyyal (albeit to a staffer of Loyyal) and will be 'decommisioned' and replaced by a token on the Loyyal platform having no intrinsic value except for the experience and word of said staffer.

This is crypto dude, you didn't buy company shares. You have no legal responsibility to prove your identity and sign contracts etc when you buy, but they have pretty much no legal responsibility to you either so good luck with a lawsuit, you'll need it.

Loyyal is a legit company partnering with huge multinational corps and with people like the ex CEO of MasterCard. They are very much subject to the rule of law.

Of course they are subject to the rule of law, everyone is, but what law? That's the question. They don't have the same responsibilities to you as if you bought company stock or something.

indeed!

look at what RIPPLE NEM did to their investors.

they are also working on consulting service like permissioned chain.

BUT they are also endorsing the public chain like XRP and XEM.

the coward LOYYAL is intentionally screwing ppl in crypto world.

I appreciate all the excitement around the announcement. Some clarity is needed.

I have taken over as maintainer and developer of the chain for a few reasons.
          Community outreach
          Community feedback
          Upgraded tech (wallet/chain-client/explorer)
          More rapid onboarding on the Loyyal platform

Ultimately This transition is *how* we can realize the original vision of RBR

The Loyyal platform needed to be created to be able to realize the vision of RBR.
Now that Loyyal is building out Alpha RApps with select partners I offered to maintain and realize the transition of RBR into this platform.

By transitioning to me, the project can now get attention it deserves. We can utilize features as they are realized.

Don't be fooled by the few use-cases on the synRg.tech, I fully intend to grow this program into a multi million dollar, transparent & community directed business.

The whitepaper and creation of a community based governance model is coming soon. I've got some skinning and maintenance to handle first.

First and foremost I am in the process of transferring services to new locations.
Re-skinning / re-branding services & API's
Updating name and information on Bittrex and throughout the coin tracking sites.
Release of new chain-code to enable adoption by miners and other exchanges.
Release of desktop versions of the wallet.
Whitepaper to explain potential RApps, economic model, value assignment, governance model
Realization of redemption and issuance RApp
Begin accepting nRg Vouchers as entry into the RApp and Loyyal platform.

This information is interesting, but be straight forward with us now before this thread gets FUDed into oblivion.

SO nRg Vouchers ARE going to be allow RBR holders to eventually get involved on the Loyyal platform? But in what way? Are we going to own a token of some value on the platform or what? DETAILS WILL HELP

Vouchers will enable a swap for rewards that live within Loyyal, associated with Rewards programs built by SynrgTech these rewards can be redeemed at the RApp redemption locations as well as at any other programs on the Loyyal platform that accept the rewards. Accepting rewards is easy for other programs and ultimately means SynrgTech will pay other programs any time someone redeems any of our rewards there. The inverse is also true, any partner rewards issued at our RApp locations get sold back to the programs. The more programs on the network that accept partner rewards, or allow redemption of their rewards with us. The greater the value of rewards we issue.

So YES existing token holders will be able to redeem their NRG vouchers (crypto) for rewards (on Loyyal platform) that can be redeemed many places within the Loyyal network.

Call me a fucking idiot but after I read this I bought back in about half what I owned before. The price seems low and I want to see if his promises hold......plus I'm terrified of missing a freak rally...that would kill me after this loss.


Sorry if people lost money but I also say it's your fault not mine as I clearly kept saying this could go one of two ways...I said they might throw us under a bus .......and if it makes people feel better I lost more than most as I was doing well but then Bought into the big rally so I also got stung. Honestly now I don't know what to think...hence the mild buy back in.

But only SYNRGTech partners on the Loyyal platform?

If so, while I have confidence in your technical abilities surely you will find it a struggle to build up solid partners without the help of Loyyal's considerable marketing wing or if you are successful you may find there is a conflict of loyalty (excuse the pun)😂

Many programs can choose to accept all available rewards on the network. No need for us to specifically market. Although I'm not shy when it comes to making partnerships either.

Ah. I see. I think most of the red flags shot up due to the impression that Loyyal was divesting all responsibility and stewardship of the old block chain to yours truly. Is that a fair impression or do they see this as more of a joint venture between you and them? I can see the logic in this scheme but these nuances do matter.

Also, TBH, if this venture is just you, it will need a lot of community building - logos, websites, translations etc - if Loyyal have literally passed all control to you it will need a proper engagement with the community, including here. You can't do it all and there needs to be proper engagement here - not like before with RBR if it is to succeed.

Good move.  :)

Iam still holding and like i say before, i will dont sell before 70k sat. (100 million mcap).

And we will see 70k sat. sooner or later.

While I don't have a team yet, I'd be crazy to think I could grow a network on my own. I'll be seeking help once I get the basic services moved and working smoothly. Are you volunteering? If so, msg me and we can talk details.

people here been following ribbitrewards since the start. we know the concept. we understand it generally. Greg simons have been parading all over the solcial medias, conferences and youtube videos(which ironically most of them are offline now)

we get that RBR might be able to redeemed at different RApp redemption locations. the question is at what rate. because as of now, it seem we will probably trade 1million rbr/NRG coins for one chocolate , or a bar soap at a hotel franchise which will be on loyyal platform.


How much do you see your NRG being worth in 3 months from now? 6, 1yr , 2 yrs?

Too many moving parts to put a rate on things at this point. To that point, the markets might be a factor. Ultimately it's going to come down to the transparency of the financials and the utility of the programs I build. The question is how much do *you* want an Nrg voucher to be worth? The programs I build will be innovative and fun. They will some of the earliest of a new type of program realized using the best technology that sits on top of the best technology.

The governance model will be released soon along with use cases that will make existing holders of the rewards as happy as the people buying more. It's my mission to realize this potential as soon as possible. It's the whole reason I was excited to work with both Loyyal as well as with the NRG token.

The growth potential is monumental. Anyone with businesses are welcomed to sign up under our program and add to the value of our rewards and the growth of the platform. I'm sure most people visiting this board knows someone who could utilize an easy to build loyalty platform. Or know app developers with a clever idea.

For example: take a web developer, mix in a hybrid mobile app platform, this API: https://abbyy.technology/en:products:cloud-ocr:start and you've got an app to let people earn rewards based on their spending anywhere. Anonomize the data and now it's a dataset to sell to market research firms. Mix in a machine learning API and now the app can make recommendations. Tie in an ad network and offer relevant coupons within the app. Each revenue stream is largely automated and each adds value to the rewards that you all have a balance of.

Most people won't make an app, but every time I frequent a store that's got a crappy rewards program and tell them what is being built their faces light up.

I challenge everyone to take a look at:
Big data API's
Fintech API's
Cognitive API's
Ad networks
Chat bot platforms
Slack
Payment engines
IoT devices

And put a few pieces together in your head and discuss on the NRG slack channel.

Next, come up with creative ways to "spend" other programs rewards. Maybe an API is free that can offer some service for cheap or free. Take fivr for example. Partner programs want their points to be spent, preferable for less than will take place if they are spent at their place of business. If a program will buy "spent" points back from our RApps at 20 rewards for 5$ and our RApp redemption offers fivr redemptions for 30 of these partner points... That's a win of $2.50 per redemption. That's a significant amount of value to back our reward buyback rate.

Don't pick too much on the examples, they were me shooting from the hip to illustrate the potential we've got to work with.

Again I challenge you to start thinking in terms of things we can wire up. As someone said before I can't do this alone, I bring the tools that will allow us to do amazing things.

Genecyber......At some point can you start an official Ann. This was just a place to discuss things until we had someone official. Also I strongly suggest when you do to make it moderated.

You words are definitely giving me some hope. A technically minded community needs to be built around you clearly to help this project along. Afraid I cant help in that area im afraid.

Part of the services cleanup includes locking these old threads if possible and making an official one. And don't sell yourself short, one of the reasons I'm excited about working with this coin is because of the excitement in these threads.

To be honest we were exited about the big business contacts that were being made Deloittle, Unilver , Dubai gov etc...

Can I ask, will you still be the chief technical developer at Loyyal? I'm thinking if you stay on the inside that gives you a lot of power to connect and open up big clients to what you are building.

My position within Loyyal is not changing. I am still and will continue to be Chief Architect.

One of my friends is exteremely pissed at this, Shannon code has a string of failed projects.

Miscommunication and misguidance from company perspective is no joke.

He is the chief architect of Loyyal....what does your friend do?

No you fucking didn't you came out with bullshit about there being a better competitor which was some bullshit credit card points project that hadnt even got off the ground.

Bottom line if anyone holds any hope in this project should stick around and discuss it and anyone else should just move on. I've been burnt way worse than this by getgems, those guys gave original investor nothing...in crypto you got to move along if a project didn't satisfy you, life's too short.


I sense there is something here to salvage. If Loyyal the platform grows so does our tokens as they are bound to get companies come on board that will accept other tokens, that's kind of the point. So hopefully as they do the more money pushed into the platform we end up with tokens that are valuable. I'm willing to see where this goes....

He had a bunch of Loyyal, big holder of it. He is not in the project.

It was a rhetorical question... :D