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So the fighting pride/senator of the Philippines(Pacquaio) is to face the younger opponent J. Horn on July 2. Who will you be supporting with your coins?

Edit : added a poll.

I really like Pacquiao but he is getting old for this. He should retire boxing and concentrate on politics. He is already rich and he does not need money from boxing anymore. He might get serious injury if he keeps pushing it. I will go for horn in this one.

Horn is definitely young, aggressive and undefeated and that's it but I don't see any impact of him to beat Pacquiao. Pacquiao is still on shape at 38 years old. Earlier he did a 7 kms run alongside with his sparmates and then core exercise after. Still no signs of fatigue even at less percentage compare to his younger sparmates that sweat is all over their body.

Im on Manny Pacquiao here.

Horn if he landed a lucky punch but with experience, skills and speed, I think Pacquiao can win this.  Though I agree that he should be retiring on fighting inside the ring, he can still participate in boxing sports through particpation in promotion and supporting talented young Filipino boxers by teaching them his skills and footworks.

This is my first time hearing about Hom but as others saying here that hes younger than pacquiao but frankly speaking i will bet on pacquiao on this one. World champion versus to a younger boxer.I dont really like to underestimate someone but considering on the skills and experience pacquiao do have the edge but who knows? A lucky punch would end the story and expectations of many people who do support pacquiao;D

i was never watching his match before but seeing his record match that 16 win with 11 times KO win with no losses looks like Jeff Horn will be strong opponent for Pacquiao but Pacquiao had a lot of experience facing different opponents during his carrer so my bets still for him but maybe Pacquiao  will win with scorecards

I think it will be hardly opponent but i will still vote to pacquiao since he already made a good record and gines record.. that i think the strongest punch. Pacman can KO that man since he is in condition and pacman is training hardly these month that i think a lot of comments that pacman got lots of changes of fighting strategy and how fast and strong punch can do..
So i vote to pacquiao..

Good times for boxing and when is the fight scheduled ,i have heard about this fight and i would like to see Manny Pacquiao winning this one,if he has a good fight camp and gives ample time for the preparation then i am sure he will win,but i think there are many distraction for Pacquiao as he is a politician and his main motivation to return to the ring is to make money,it all comes down to how Manny is preparing for this fight.

This will be an easy fight for Manny. Horn is unknown never heard and never see him fight. We may admit that Manny has lost some of his speed and he is getting old as well. But I think with his experience, he can overcome his opponent. And he is the same as Mayweather, always in shape all year round. So I'm betting for Manny by decision.

Pacquiao. His opponent is relatively unknown to many, although young and has no losses yet. But Pacquiao is a living legend and I don't think he can easily be defeated lest by a unknown fighter Jeff Horn. And what have others statement, he has the power and still has a good stamina to fight full 12 rounds if needed. I think Pacquiao will win and the fight will end up similar to his other opponents, either KO or by unanimous decision.

Im not saying that Horn can't matched Pacquiao but who's tough fighter already defeated by this guy? Damn you Bob Arum, you allow Manny to take match with a boxer with only 16 professional fights? You are more aggressive to money compare to Mayweather.

Manny Pacquaio will take this match. I don't care if Horn is much young. Experience is the key not on aged. Back in Pacquaio-DelaHoya match, Golden Boy has better experience but Pacquiao already built experience and take down those with big names prior to their match so this match against Horn is totally a different story.

Senator Pacqauio was a very humble person, as we all know His autobiography from rag to riches, very generous, and kind tO anyone. Now even His opponent is younger than His age I know Mr.Pacman always end in unanymous decision,..

By the way, who is Horn? Well I'll go with and this is possible a technical knockout. With the experience, training and skills of Manny Pacquiao. Definitely this is going to be a good and easy win for him. And his record is really something to be feared so whoever Horn is. This is going to be a good stepping stone for him.

Going for Manny Pacquiao. He is getting on in age but is still good. Hope to see him win.

I thought Pacquiao already retired from boxing and change the carreer to politics, I dont see any reason Pacquiao is going to lose although he is a bit old but with his exeprience he will win the match, I think he will win by a scorecard

Manny Pacquiao was looking for a fight against Amir Khan and now he will be facing Jeff Horn in his home town and i have no doubt in my mind that Horn cannot stand a chance against Manny Pacquiao if he is fully dedicated to boxing and if he is injury free,i would really like to see Manny fight Mayweather outside of Las Vegas with both fighters injury free and since both the fighters career are coming to a conclusion i hope they will put this fight one last time. ;)

He will nail this game and he talks that way. He already said that before that he will retire boxing but well the offer maybe is quite high and he can't really leave his passion easily. I'm not against to his decision but if that is for his hobby, I'll support him. His experiences are great and this can lead Horn to K.O.

I think Pacquiao would win it because he has quality and he won't back down from a fight. He is fast that it is really devastating to the opponent that they get stunned by it. And talk about stamina, he has been tough and staying in the fight for all the rounds. That's just my opinion.

i would go to pacquiao he might getting old but he still not getting rusty and this horn is a littile bit cocky , pacquiao have more experience than horn so the my bet will be on pacquiao but there is still a possibility horn would win

On current result of the poll, I see Pacquiao still is the Favorite. Which betting site have the best odds for this fight? I would like to try to bet a little on Pacquiao via scorecards. Or, is there a thread of co-members here in the forum taking bets?///

I agree that the fighting senator still got the chance winning this fight and as a Filipino I will support him after bookers will add the fight don't have any idea yet with what site would have a better odds for this game but surely they will add the senators game.

Age really matters pand Pacquiao is getting old but as we know Pacquiao defeated his younger opponent from his last fight and still have the aggressiveness, speed, and strength. Even Horn is undefeated and also younger I think Pacquiao still can defeat him because he is still more experienced and he is a Legend.

It's still Pacquio for me, even age matters,i know he will be able to keep pace on his opponent in this fight,his experiences and tactics will make him win. He have some special sort power within his body and his punch is incredibly strong, Maybe age is a factor but Manny Pacquiao is a legend and I'm that he will still win against his opponents.
Proud Filipino here!  8)

I will go with the trend, pacquioa can still knock any boxer in the world and his last loss was with Mayweather which I think not a good fight.
This is a good fight for pacman facing a younger and an aggressive guy, manny should school this like what he did in his previous successful fights but the knock out seems unlikely. I'll go all in with pacquaio as well.

I'll go for pacquiao even though he his old and his opponent is younger than him but the experience and his strength in every punch was still there i am bothered only on his moves because he is slow now that will only affect this fight unlike his younger age with speed and strength .For horn i think it will be some like of the other who keeps his guards up after experiencing pacquiao's punch blows.

Like what you said pacquiao is getting old that's why they will win. Their experience being a veteran in boxing will defeat horn in their match on july 2. I am believe to pacquiao because they prove that he is the number one pound for pound boxer in the world. He has a hand speed and powerfull punch, I have a good feelings that he will win by unanimous decision because horn is also a great fighter.

Additionally, more of their past opponents are younger than him and he still win for the belt.

You have a point that they focus on politics but its not the reason to give up, they give a time for his hard training to prove he is the pound for pound king.

Right, pacquioa is getting old but they don't fight if they know that have no strength for boxing. Most of their opponent is younger than him and they win. Compare to the younger jeff horn that is undefeated, pacquioa have a great experience. Like bradley and algeiri, he is younger than him but they win. Age is not matter, I think it depends on the strageties and experience.

His ability and speed is the key to win and this is always there to win in their fight.
Ever since, I go for pacquioa even in their fight to mayweather because he is a great boxer and a legend.

Go read the first post, the date is mentioned there.

Nitrogen only have moneylines maybe they'll put up props when the match draws near.
Pacquiao ml is sitting at 1.186 on fairlay and 1.182 on nitrogen.

It's undeniably that Pacquiao the pride of the Philippines is one of the strongest and fastest boxer that ever played the game. But I think Pacquiao is past in his prime now and I think all of his prices is going to be a 12 round decision unless someone on both sides throw a lucky punch this won't be a knockout round.

I bet Pacquiao will win K.O in this fight. Actually I feel confused why boxers like Pacquiao want to fight with Horn which I think has a class under him, it's like a fight between teacher against his student. But for Horn, this is an important fight for his experience. This fight will be interesting if Horn can keep up with Pacquiao. Normal if Pacquiao is favored in this fight because he is a legend and has a lot of experience.

I wonder if Manny Pacquiao would step up in weight to fight GGG or Canelo. Maybe those guys are too big for him? Seems as if Pacquiao doesn't have a lot of big name fighters @ lighter weights to draw upon like Floyd does.

After reading all the posts of people saying Pacquiao is old, I checked to see how old he is and realized he's 38. Pacquiao is two years younger than Floyd. Why is no one saying Floyd is old? lol

although i don't know much about pacquiao, i give my vote in Pacquiao via KO. because i think with many experiences, i think the chances for pacquiao is wide open so i think he can win the games although his enemy is more younger but still experiences is the important thing that every one need especially in sports. with his stronger, i am sure pacquiao will be survive and finally he can win the games but i don't know how long the game will be ended.

I also don't have an interest in this boxing game, But I knew players in this boxing in that this Pacquiao is also one guy. He fought against Mayweather it was billion dollar game. That day Pacquiao played well his shorts are more attracting because he is short and his back kick and other shots are fantastic. I don't know how Mayweather won that game. But I know that both are great players. So in coming games, I will go with Pacquiao.

For me ill go with Pacquiao because Pacquiao is strong and tested. He is the strong with punch and ability in speed. So i will trust Pacquiao and i bet on it. He is more experience in boxing field And he fight all boxing legend and he was eight division champion. I know Pacquiao more confident and i know he is win surely to his fight July 2. Even if he is old he is still fast moves in speed and and good in punch. And i know Pacquiao is a chance to win. And i know he blow his strong punch to Horn. He is the great boxer and strong ability. Pacquiao is much better than Horn. Because Pacquiao is proud of Filipino people.

Manny Pacquiao is still my favourite boxer and of course i pick Manny Pacquiao to win on this match against Horn. Actually i never see how good is Horn fight but i hope this match will full of aggresive for both fighters, not like when pacquiao against mayweather.

Of course i will go with our Pilipino Pride Pacquiao and always be J horn is still needs to gain more experience in boxing even his a younger than packman , packman is he already knows what to do with his oppenent no one defeat paquiao in younger age pacman is strong enough to K.O j horn in 6 round i guess.

Just like others, I really don't have an idea on who is this Horn. So I did some research and his name is Jeff Horn, for the sake of others that also doesn't know him. And it looks like we are underrating him, his standing is 16-0 and 1 draw. But well he will receive his first lose with Manny Pacquiao, the people's champ.

That's interesting to know since this little boy already maturing and its the best way to be recognized fighting the well respected player/fighter like sen, Pacman I know this fight would be love by all his fans all over the world as he wanted to still be popular even in the era of his career.

I will be going all in for Pacquiao this time because after the last fight with Mayweather, I have just developed likeness for the guy and I can just support the guy with all my coins. I quite agree that he is old and should even retire but with the last loss I don't expect anyone to retire based on that outing. Maybe after this winning for him thanks to our support then he can retire well.

Pacquiao will not retire soon, he still have the firepower in his and every fight is money, I don't think his opponent now can match his speed and great IQ in boxing, this will be entertaining but we all know who will win, it's pretty obvious that Pacquiao is the heavy favorites in this fight but as a fan I will watch this game.

i think pac-man gonna win the battle,Pacquiao still best boxer in Philipines,and he have so many experience,little ausie Jeff Horn still not balance for him,and also like Bruce Mctavish said,he believes the battle -tested Filipino will be simply too much for the young aussie Fighter.

Nont only the best boxer on the Philippines but the best among the world and we do all know that. He earned many championship title on many division which means hes really good those commentary would really be precise this fight would really be too much on that young fighter but well its a good experience for him. This fight is somehow have fixed results.

I don't think so, after Mayweather defeated Manny Pacquiao, the eyes are on Mayweather. But, Pacquiao is undeniably the world's best boxer after Muhammad, I think. With his upcoming match, I think this will not be easy because he will be fighting a young one, that means, he will not rely on his strength but on his experience as a long time boxer.

Pacquiao will win this, but I don't think he can KO anybody anymore. He hasn't KO'ed anybody for the longest time and I don't think this will change in his next fight. Though probably there is chance he can KO, but I really doubt it. Especially now, he changed since he started boxing. He doesn't have that hunger he had before.

The last time I saw Manny Pacquaio pulverizing much his opponent is during his fight against Antonio Margarito. After that, majority of his next match is kinda playing safe and the aggressiveness had been minimized. Im sure since he holds the Pound for Pound King for a long time, he is not that more on the target but for what his promotor said who will be his next fight. I follow Manny prior to his journey on defeating Mexican boxers. He really aims for that and all he think is go for a knockdown. His first target is to defeat Marco Antonio Barrera and he succesfully did it. If you will watched again the match, you can how deadly he is. And that deadly performance follows up to the following match. I don't think that because of age he became slow now. He is still fast and quick.

During his successful days and already earned lots of money, he became worried now for his fellow countrymen who spend big just to buy a ticket to watch him live. Imagine OFW's are earning for their family but there is always a time that those OFW's will purchase ticket just to watch him. That's why to make them pay, Pacquaio didn't want a knockout for at least 7th to 8th round which is not good because he is holding back, this is to give his fans a more time to watch without realizing that all his fans only wants a KNOCKOUT and it will be paid off. Now I don't see any exciting feeling when there's a Pacquaio match. In the past while during his fight, all the streets are clean because they are watching Pacquaio's fight but I noticed this past fights that not all are now interested to watch since, aside from his opponent are not that popular, every fight is now for money purposes. The spirit of deadly boxing to him is now gone.

Sorry for the long read (as if you read), just reminiscing the time. :)

Pacquiao should win an easy unanimous decision on this fight. This is a mismatch and this is just all about money. Pac is old though so his team will try to handpick easy opponents. Pac is no longer the same. He is old and his newfound faith lessened his ferocity.

I can feel you Kabayan. We all follow Manny's career when he was still starting in his boxing career. I still remember when we was knocking his opponents left and right that's why boxing fans love him. However, after the Margarito fight, which I think started his declined in boxing. Because after that we didn't see the hunger in Manny anymore. I think Margarito has somewhat did damaged him physically and mentally and of course his KO lost to Juan Manuel Marquez really made Manny to be more careful and not to aggressive again.

Manny will win this fight. He will not be a stepping stone by Horn. I still hope he can KO him but I still go with my prediction. Unanimous decision by Manny.

I guess the tide will still turn to pacquiao because of the so called "experience". Even at an old age, pacman can still show off his punching power and with the experience he have on all of his fights, I'm sure he's gonna be the winner of this coming bout. He got the caliber to fight for more rounds in his career  ;)

I won't underrate this player, with his standing of 16-0 for sure he is not just a nuisance player. But because he wants to fight Manny for sure his name will be noisy after this game whether he lose or win, Horn will still win in this fight. Hoping that this will be the last battle for Manny and focus more with his political career.

     I strongly agree with you, Even though Pacquio is getting older, I know he can give us a good fight on july 2,  Even in his previous fights he always give his best to win against to his opponents

 We follow his track in boxing career we know he is always train hard to achieve his success to win and I believe he can do it again this time and I know he will make our country proud.

Pacquaio still what it takes to win this game. Horn is doing and taking this fight for his popularity. This contract probably has a good deal and made Pacquiao fight again. If I can remember he did mentioned that he is not going to fight anymore but there's a fast change that he has an upcoming fight.

I agree that pacquiao needs to retire in boxing, he already have everything and he really has a lot of properties so I think he doesn't need to fight at all since pacquiao is old enough to retire. I thinks he needs to concentrate with his family and it is better that pacquiao open a business for his family so that they will have a future even if he gets really old. I’ll go Horn for me too.

Exactly and no doubt. Manny Pacquaio is not fighting for fame now since he already achieved what he wants to achieved. As long as his body can still keep up on the ring and BTC$if the price is rightBTC$ then why not? Win or Loss majority of stakes will be on him since Horn is no name.

Lucky Horn, he will now have a big exposure providing he will only take home small amount of money to be consider in a main event with an opponent which is really a big name in boxing industry.

   In my opinion this fight is just nothing really, first of all Pacquaio retired then come back to play again because of money, and his opponent is much younger than him, I think Pacquaio is getting slow and his opponent has a chance to steal some of his belts, Pacquaio should have retired and continue his legacy and stop fighting and just teach the new generation or young one (filipinos) to make them good. Not like keep playing until you die. The point is if Pacquaio doesn't retire after this he will surely lose everything he has. He should be resting and chilling than fighting someone younger but still I will vote for Pacquaio but who knows what will happen.  ;)

Thats true i remembered him saying that he will already retire but still he continue his boxing career knowing he is already a politician. however as a fellow filipino i will still bet and support him.

well for my own opinion manny doesn't need the money what his doing right now is to entertain his fans and the whole boxing arena even his tired and already getting old, he's speed and strength is nothing compared 5 or 10 years ago we all understand that money always eager to win and always wants to hype his name so for sure he will try to fight the same way just to prove himself once more.

Pacquiao need to retire on his boxing career because he already made a name of his own. so much better if he retired because he has a stable job and also one of the billionaire in the philippines. he don't need the fame because he is already famous much better if he focus on his senatorial job in his country than going on his boxing career.

He will retire soon. I guess he's just using his last resources to earn some money to these last few fights before the proper retirement. It is not a bad thing though since Manny is a man that is active on giving funds to foundations, helping the youth for free school tuition fees and more.

Even though my money's still on pacquiao on this one, i don't think we'll ever see the same pacman we've seen a couple of years ago. Of course with all the experiences he's had, may very well just beat horn technically like how mayweather wins his fights. I'm not expecting something explosive anymore except maybe if horn knocks him out which is unlikely to say the least.

and he might get knocked and have irreparable damage. At his age, he will not be healing fast enough, so maintaining a good health is a must and fighting more fights is against that. Even without the reasons you mentioned, Health is more than enough reason to stop boxing at his age. He should be more active on promoting sports by supporting grass roots and doing better job at the senate.

That's why money matters and money talks. Considering that Pacquiao is already near to become a living legend and he did mentioned that he is already going to retire. But this is a sudden fight, he's a lawmaker,basketball player(playing coach) and boxer. Yet this is his decision and it's up to him on how long he can still fight with his entire boxing career.

Its a pride for the people champs i think money influence this fight but he also aiming to prove that he still have it and he dont want to dissapoint the pilipino fans i guess even in small amount its good to have some bet for the favorite fighter of all time for all filipino around the globe.

Pacquaio would probably win by scorecard. If it was the pacquiao of old then i'd bet a lot of money for a ko win but no i think we've already seen the best pacman's got. What we most likely would see is an experienced tactical boxer who would use more of his wits that to try and knock out a younger guy like horn

I just watched the news today and Pacquiao now is heading to Australia for his upcoming match. I bet that this is going to be a unanimous decision and Pacquaio will win this fight.

I agree with you, Pacquiao must retire with his boxing career. He really prove himself nonetheless he must stop the boxing career. He is famous already and not to prove that to anyone. Im really hoping that Pacquiao will stop boxing and just enjoying his life with his family out of fame.

Money will always influence fight and Pacquiao is a wise man. Fight for pride and honor for the country is just a cover for his own intention and that's already over because he is now into a lot of careers. But whatever the result of this match, I want Manny Pacquiao to win this game as it will bring honor to himself and his country.

He already proved what he can do. If disregarding money as a reason, I think his purpose is just to fight because he believes he still can but for the reason of proving it to the Filipino I think it's out of the line. And this is just his side activity, I don't know why he wants an extra activity even multi tasking.

Well Im eyeing for Manny Pacquaio here. It's a shame if Pacquiao will lost to this young guy and he must stick to his statement about he will leave Australia without harming his current belt.

Well I think it's about time the PAC man calls it quits because he's done a lot and shouldn't let boxing retire him now that he's even a politician, he should just continue inntgat line and only treat boxing as a hobby and not get actively into it because one day a younger opponent might disgrace him.

I think Pacman is already well protected by his team in terms of handpicking opponents. I still think Pac needs to retire or if not get names like Floyd and Marquez. Hardcore boxing fans won't appreciate shitty match ups like this coming Pac fight and including the bs McGregor vs Floyd.

I dont know who this Horn is and i dont know his boxing statistics but am sure he is going to lose, Manny isn't going to lose any other fight until he retires from the game which is what i think he should do, retire from boxing and focus on either his political career or his family.

Looks like easy money for Pacquiao but we never know if this could end like that time against Juan Marquez......

Seems like this match is not fun to watch but it could give easy money, if you have million you can bet on Pacquiao moneyline, it's free money.
Haven't check the betting sites yet regarding the odds, but I am sure it is not fun to gamble when you do not have a decent amount to put.
The only way Horn will win is to get a lucky punch like what Manuel Marquez did, and I think that is what they are working now.

I think why pacman do boxing is because of fashion for it and not for money.

Since Im a filipino im baised to pacman. He will win for sure becuase he got the speed the strength and the specially the experience. And i still think that he still have those stamina and sharpness so all in for pacman

I am for PacMan Pacquiao, he is a legendary in boxing, Boxing Hall of Fame. He carves his name already in this field. Though Horn, has a good physique also, we cannot rely on pure luck. Manny should work hard also,his opponent is also good.

Ill go for Manny Pacquaio for sure because he is more formidable and well experience in boxing than horn. This will become his strong point in the match. And pacman still has his speed at combination so my vote goes for pacman

If i were to choose ill pick pacman because we live in the same country so its natural for me to support my fellow filipino. And if we will talk about skill and experience still have a huge difference because his opponent is younger. With that accumulated experience i think will be the key of his victory

Yeah senator pacquiao is getting old but it doesn't mean that he can't give a good fight against his younger opponent just like what he did last year in his fight with bradley although he is now a politician but he's still having a serious training for boxing, His age doesn't give him a limitation to face even a younger and aggressive boxer .

Everyone gets old, and it's not an excuse for Senator Manny to stop, it's just not like him and that's how he made himself famous and respected. His plays are probably going to amaze you because he is both focusing on improving himself for the fight and maybe in the Senate in the Philippines also. Lol.

As you can seen in the news pacquiao is seriously training against horn and i think he can win again even horn has a good stats manny can be still fight and win in this game.. A lots of improvement changes from pacman according to freddie roach that i think can win this fight again.. even he is senate of the philippines i still believe in pacman punch..

So majority choose pacquiao because of Horn being not-so-popular.
I just hope Pacquiao won't get KO'd if he losses.
Don't want to feel very bad just like when he got KO'd by Marquez.

If Pacquiao is going to be aggressive in this match he might knock down Horn, because I've seen the footwork of Pacquiao compared to Horn. Pacquiao using his agility and strength he will surely knock Horn down and win by KO though Pacquiao has aged but still Horn needs a lot of experience. I hope this fight will be more thrilling and exciting for the viewers.

It might not be that easy as it sounds,he is bloody busy with his political career and if the is not fully focused with his training it could make a difference as the opponent has only one focus,just to defeat Manny and i hope he will concentrate the last month entirely for his fight and if he could do so i am sure he will win.

Pacquiao has already learned his lessons well. He is no longer that gung-ho we see him before. That Marquez KO is just a lucky punch nothing more. Look at how he fought Bradley, he know he can be hit by a lucky punch and Bradley hit him a few times the only difference is Bradley is feather fisted and Pacquiao is very cautious about the overhand right hitting him. I don't think Horn can hit as well with that punch, Pacquiao will not let this kid KO him, he has too much to lose in this fight. And I think he should retire for good after this win. I hate to see him being used as stepping stone for younger fighters. Retire while he's on top and run for President in 2018. :D :D :D

I think Manny needs to realize it's about time to quit and follow politics because these young guys wants to make some desperate monies and if he allows them they are going to put a dent on his illustrious career and disgrace him.

You can check his statistics here http://boxrec.com/boxer/635000 I think he has something. He has 16 wins - 0 lose and 1 draw. So probably he is a competitive as I haven't watched his past match and I don't want to. I want to see him fight against Manny and for sure it will be a 16-1 for him.

Most likely, Manny doesn't seem to be aging and he is still in condition, this guy is lucky to fight a legend and even if he will lost in this fight it is already a great honor for him aside from the money he will be getting. Horn is a teacher and still young and I think he is smart but Pacquiao is too fast for him, I can't wait to see the fight.

I think experience would always be the key and though he kight lose his speed the power punch would still be able to push him to victory. Yes, it moght not be a knockout as the opponent is younger and has more endurance but the experience of Paquiao would be the trump card.

Well i didn't think we'd allnsee another spectacular ko from pacquiao from his recent fights onward. Not on this fight. Though i agree that pacquiao's experience will carry him to victory against a younger opponent, it would probably something that won't excite you as before. Even now that the fight is closing in there are little noise about it.

Manny Pacquiao isn’t as exciting as he used to be, where he used to knockout everybody that stood in his way. The speed is still there, but he has lost a bit of that too through the years, and the power seems to have diminished as well. But even if I am saying that, a 60 %or 70% version of PacMan should be good enough to beat a relatively unknown opponent, via an easy 12 round decision. Gone are the days when I’d be really excited about his upcoming fight, because like most boxers his age, he seems to be only after the money.

It's always cool to see undefeated fighters fight so I will see how Jeff handles Pacman, but the real fight im looking forward is the Golovkin vs Canelo, that is the best fight of the year in my book.

Of course Conor vs Mayweather vs it's a special event, can't miss that. No hate here, I think it will be cool to see how that develops. Im not buying PPV tho, will stream it, they get paid enough money.

Oh come on! Do not be so confident that Horn will be the winner. Yes Pacquiao are getting older now but Horn are just only a young who are still a beginner in the boxing ring. Pacquiao is a long champion boxer in the boxing ring. He defeated many boxers old or young. He is well skilled and wise boxer. So, there is always possibilities that he win the fight.

What are the odds to this fight? I dont really have a lot of knowledge in boxing, But as mush as I know Pacquiao is one of the best fighters out there

It's going to be youth versus experience this time and with the quality of opponents pacquiao has had over his career, I think he should easily overcome horn. Not in an explosive manner as how we remember pacquiao to be but rather a but more technical. But a win over horn none the less

Haven't looked at the odds for this one yet, but Pacman should have the better odds to win. He has the experience needed for a guy like Horn. Horn may be undefeated, but his wins don't contain worldclass fighters yet. This may be the start of Horn to become a future fall of fammer tho... who knows.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/635000

It's his biggest fight yet, the fight that all boxers dream with to make the first step to become a recognized name, so he will be very hungry for victory.

It is 1.189 ML on Pacquiao and 5.310 ML on Horn in Nitrogensports. Pacquaio is the heavy favorite on this one but it is really tempting to bet on horn with this odd. It may even get higher as the day of the fight approaches.

Yes I think Manny will try to knock him out during the first few rounds but if not he will go through and fight Horn in a technical manner since he's a bit old as a boxer rather than Horn which is more aggressive and have thirst for a win especially with his upcoming opponent who is already a legend in boxing history.

Manny would love to take that 0 and would likely so. I haven't seen him fight as well. But I think he is too green for Manny. I don't know why Uncle Bob choose him, probably Manny will likely retire that's why he didn't choose a name fighter. He probably just want to scratch the itch in his back for  this last fight of his, if  that is the case.

I think Manny will still try to knock out every opponent of his. But the problem is that he has aged already plus the moved up in weight and fighting bigger guys has somewhat "stop" him from KO opponents. I hope Manny will KO Horn so that he can still see him fight more. But if he retires, then we would all understand it and pursue other things like his political career in the Philippines.

Pacquiao Win,... Because Pacquiao is 8 division world title and found for found Boxer and His more experience than Horn. Manny have a power combination punching and speed. and Experience to fight Best Champion Boxer's  and Beat them.   

That is also my concern, since he is getting older. It affects his movement maybe but he has still the energy. Me too are hoping for a KO by Pacquiao. Horn is a challenger, he has to exert more effort to pinned down Pacquiao, that is a unanimous decision .

He is always in good condition as I watched the news this morning and there is another fighter that wants to fight him after with Horn. And he said that he need to finish this match first before planning the next one. Looks like the retirement issue from him is just an hearsay and we'll still see more fights from him.

It looks like he is a good politician and he needs to raise funds for his charity and boxing is the only way to raise that kind of amount he needed and i think that is the reason he is coming back to fight again,other than that i do not find any reason because he already proved to the world who Manny is.

He is a better boxer than being a politician. Honestly I don't see why would a Senator still fight even though it is better if he would just attend senate sessions and make laws that will help the Philippines grow.

Everyone likes money and Pacquiao is not any different. Also, i remember he had certain problems with the IRS or whatever other tax equivalent in their country, he had some tax problem thats the bottomline. If he fights, he can easily pay tax fees because every Pacman fight generates a great deal of millions that could save you from jail time if you have tax problems. That's why I think he fights. Im sure he also has good intentions in his political career too.

Being a Manny Pacquiao fan ever since, I have seen him do things you will not see on other players. He has the Fist of a fighter and the Heart of the Champion. July 2, Pacquiao win via KO.

Are you going to bet for money?  i don't have any website to go because directbet is already close and they stop their operation i always go with Manny Pacquiao no matter what they say that Pacquiao gonna lsoe this fight because is opponent is younger than him its not about the age we're talking here its all about skills and how to think to defeat Horn on this fight.

This fight is so interesting! Our very own fighter versus a fighter from Australia. Basically this fight is between a senator and a math teacher :3. As so you know Horn is a Math Teacher and Pacquiao is a senator serving the Philippines. All I can say is that Pacquiao is more vulnerable than his past years because of his age I think. And when I saw horn's practice, his punches were so good and you can here the sound of his fists landing on his coach hands. I think I go for Horn's this fight he's too strong.

Senator Manny doesn't fight for money anymore, if he really only fight for money he doesn't need to risk his life for over 4 matches after having the contract expired. Just for your information he just doesn't want his people to lose faith so he keeps fighting, it is not for money its for pride.

Pacquiao via scorecards

this will be won by manny via score cards, he already lost his knock out power and cant deliver a knock out punch anymore and his last TKO happens on his cotto fight. this is all about money, lets just hope no serious head injury in this fight for manny

Same problem here. I don't know any 'legit' site that will accept bets for this fight. Directbet is also my #1 choice but they already ceased operation.

When it comes to his political career I don't want to comment there. Most of the people doesn't seem to like him in the senate. But I know he's been doing a lot of good things for the poor and he is allocating some of his funds for doing charitable works. Let's get back to his boxing career as it becomes off topic.

In politics and in boxing Pacquio performs well, Pacquio aims for the benefits of its countrymen , he aims for a clean governmnent and shares his blessing,anyways it just that Pacquio will always be a Filipinos Pride and I'll bet Pacquio will win for this game.

He is a great person. And what can you say about Horn's statement that he will be like Juan Manuel Marquez that made Pacquiao down? He claims that he can beat Manny in a T.K.O. I think it's still early for him to have these type of words or he is just trying to give himself some boost by saying that word?

Horn via scorecards, just to make things a little bit different because I'm sure everyone would vote for Pacquiao.  :D

The real talk is when you are in the ring, let all the talks be heard because that will only make the game more interesting.
Marques is maybe the toughest opponent of manny but we have yet seen what Horn can offer.

As far as i remember they do have trilogy with marquez and i agree that its one of the toughest fighters that manny did encounter but i would really love to see again on pacquiao and mayweather fight again (rematch) im not quiet satisfied on their last fight but for now Horn will experience first manny's fist. We dont really have an idea what are the capabilities of this fighter.

Putting a few BTC on the Australian... and praying hard........

Good luck with your bet. Majority's choice is Manny Pacquiao but well I consider Horn a strong boxer base on his stats. Few more days left everyone is waiting to ring the bell.

Hello.

What site are you using to cast your bet? I don't have any other option since directbet ceased operation.

horn has the speed,agility and endurance since he is younger than pacquiao, but experience wise, pacqiuao have proven his effectiveness even to younger,taller and quicker oppenents, i think pacquiao will win to extend his career and i think there would be a rematch someday that horn will surely defeat the eight division champ

Yup after ceasing directbet site I did not find any site that offers all type of sports on a single website. Can you please share with us where you are doing betting on this event? It helps us to do betting for our fav sports. Now I am using sportsbet.io, but I never checked this site completely weather they allow us to bet on this event or not.
you can find this event in https://sports.betcoin.ag/sport/boxing. but the odds is bit low.

A few BTC? you must have a lot of money to risk a few BTC on this, because a few BTC at current prices is quite a lot of money, and this is a very risky bet. It's relatively a good bet because Jeff has real chances of being the underdog that wins, but it's still a very risky move. Good luck, maybe you make some amazing gains.

Are you going to place bets on Manny or for Horn? if yes then lets make a deal and use escrow for the bets i'll go for manny paquiao what do you think? Im looking for internet for the best betting site but it seem that they have luck of possitive reviews of their users.

We can create any sort of bets with automated smart contracts on this site:

https://bitbet.us/

We can create the fight, the different variables and so on. I have never used this site but I always thought it was pretty cool and we wouldn't even need a escrow, but I don't know how to use it or how legit it is. It seems legit tho... has been online for years without any major complains to my knowledge.

You can try nitrogensports, though I have not really tried this site yet. I was a directbet user too but I stopped gambling quite some time now. Good luck with your bets.

I saw some footage of Horn doing a public workout. This kid looks good and nice. And even taking pictures of some of his fans. However, even Australians are picking Pacquiao to win the fight because they believe that Horn is still young and not yet in the level of Manny. I still will go to Manny to win.

Marquez is Manny's rival in his entire boxing career but he doesn't want to fight again with Manny as he don't want to fight with the toughest boxer man of Earth. Yes, let's just see their upcoming main event and it's few days left. But once Horn lose, he will eat dust together with his words.

Pacquiao hasn't knocked out an opponent for so long and I don't think this will change on his next bout. Also he's been challenging weak fighters ever since and he has not fought anyone that is his caliber so I think this one is just for the money and nothing else. For sure Pacquiao will win this but it would be a disappointing and boring match like the rest he had.

That's true, I will always love to see them fight again. It will be sold out crowd manny trying to redeem victory over that
lucky puncher though. I am hoping it will happen before both fighter will retire.

Most of the people wants to see them fight again but I don't think that's going to happen anymore. I want to see a rematch also with Floyd Mayweather as well but that's a different topic. We need to focus for now with Horn as this fighter doesn't have a stain on his records, really can't wait for this fight.

It will happen on sunday in our timezone so people have a chance to watch this game, I am sure the traffic will be lessen due to people
are watching to support manny pacman Pacquiao. I hope horn can give a good fight and not just run away like the previous opponent of Pacquiao.

They will never fight again. Mayweather already proved he can beat money and solidifies that he is the greatest (atleast in his mind) and Marquez won 2 out of 3 matches with the last win with punctuation mark. That proves marquez is better than pacquiao.

Pacquiao says on his interview,he doesn't  want to stop boxing because this is his passion even he always say that he wants to resign.  I'm  a Filipino, that's why I will support Manny Pacquiao for his fight and I really believe his capacity to win this fight.
 

Thats the thing that made him famous that is why he wont stop. He received alot of love from his fans through boxing and that is what made him today. There is no point to retire when he is still fit enough compared to those amateurs around him. I would still support him, it is probably going to be easy money and easy win for him

Well there's no doubt that he can definitely beat horn n this fight but he knows he's close to the point where his body would not agree with his mind and determination anymore. I admire pacquiao's heart but boxing takes a huge toll in someone's body. Especially with someone who has other things in mind like politics.

Regarding this topic the fight between Horn and Manny I think our Filipino pride will still take the win over horn. Yeah Manny Pacquiao maybe already old but he still got the moves. The veteran will still walk away with a huge victory, he will make sure the Horn will learn a lesson after the fight. It is like a student versus its master, Horn is young is I may say that full of potential but he is not the type of fighter that will beat Manny "Pacman" Pacquio. I will go on Manny all rounds and a win with a Technical Knock Out. So guys place your bet on Manny and then thank me later for this tips.

Definitely Pacquiao.
He is really a good boxer even with his age and this might be a game to just advertise promotions.
So they wont let this scar the record of Manny.
But still if the odds are low I will bet for him just for fun.  ;D
I dont have friends who wants to bet against me. All are PacMan's fans.  ;D

Pacquiao is clearly stronger than Horn. He is also much loved by his fans (his outdoor training in Brisbane was canceled because there were too many fans)
The victory for Pacquaio is quoted at @1.15 while Horn is listed at  @6.00.
Horn's victory would be clamorous.

This match, I guess would be unpredictable. We can't say Manny will win because of his agility and accuracy in punching on the other side Horn has never lost a fight and He also have 12 KO in his 18 fights. Horn also has a chance in this match, but I'll still bet on Manny. I believe that he can outmatch Horn but I don't expect a KO from both of them.

yes indeed that's true that Pacquiao not so good just like several years ago even he has experience lost on KO before facing this event and Pacquiao have to beware because with 65% percentages KO for Jeff Horn i think that was very good for the boxer but i wish this fight It will not be boring and entertain many people

Manny got the enough explosiveness and good conditioning to win, but undefeated fighters always try their best to not get a loss on their record, this is why I think the fight will be interesting. If Jeff is not crazy, he will not try to plan an aggressive fight, he will try to counterattack and get Manny frustrated, but few can achieve that besides Floyd.

I’m with Pacquiao for this fight, he can landed a power punches even in different angles making him more dangerous and his quickness inside the ring. Manny have a lot of experience which is a big advantage against Jeff. But Jeff is strong too which he became undefeated fighter and good knockout puncher. It’s a big break for Jeff’s career if he won this fight. So it’s definitely a great fight in Australia. I can’t wait to watch it.

Woo, I just recently watched the weigh in of Manny and Horn and everything seems to be ready. Too bad that with that match we are talking Manny Vs. Marquez, let's just move on as that's not going to happen anymore. Let's just look upon this assuming "Marquez" that he will beat Pacquiao, hoping for a T.K.O punch for this boast.

Pacquiao is not the same fighter anymore no more KO last years and his explosiveness is already gone. If he wins, its another boring decision like the past fights. He was exposed by Mayweather that hes already past prime

Yes, that’s true Manny is not the same fighter unlike during his prime were every opponents that he faced get knockout and his killer instinct are gone too. But Manny still got his speed and counter punches while younger fighter Jeff has his solid punches, great knockout puncher with 11 KO and determination to win the title. This will be a great fight.

I hope to see a good fight, we need it for the sport of boxing. The Andre Ward vs Sergery Kovalev 2 one was a bit of a letdown with that controversial stoppage. Joshua vs Klitschko put the excitement back in HW division. Now im hoping the GGG Canelo fight makes a great year of boxing. Floyd vs Conor is just an extra and should be fun to see, im intrigued to see what happens.

For this boxing match i'm taking the over 9.5 and Pacquiao by Decision. Most of Pacquiao's win over the last couple of years went above 9.5 rounds i'll just go with the trend of his previous results. Here's my Betslip (https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/84e6c87VHBPaHBsWC9zZ3BkeGtqWVNaNW54Zz09)

Yes. I agree with you on this decision because just picking a fighter to win this match is falling in the trap that the vegas bookies are relying on for bettors to fall into with this. With placing Pacquiao as the heavy favorite with the lines they are  putting on him right before the fight.
Everybody is loading up on him to win it.
But now I am not so sure.
They will have the younger fighter with a blemishless record being the winner.
And being in Austraila in front of his home country does not bode well for the former champion there on this night. :-[

Well I still hope that it will be for Pacquio ,he doubled his trainingg and still managed to reached his training goal,  anyways what may happen he will always be a champion for Filipinos. A Philippines Pride indeed.

The fight is going at round 5 now. It's hard to say that this is just a promotional fight or something because Horn is at his prime and Pacman is already on the age of retiring. They are both aggressive punchers but I'm seeing that Pacman suffers no damage at all as of now. Still rooting for Pacman until the end.  8)

I do believe Pac won by a couple rounds, but I thought it was a very very close fight simply due to Horn dictating the pace. I would just like to understand how the judges based their scoring because I do believe that Horn was the aggressor and threw a higher volume of punches. That being said I thought Pac delivered the higher quality shots and caused greater damage.

Well, that was unexpected result from Pacquiao vs Horn match. Horn win with unanimous decision. I'm sure many philipines people feels shock and can't believe the result. I'm watching that match live and i can say Manny Pacquiao can win that match, even with 2 big headbutt from horn.

Funny how we forgot the judges when the fight comes to the end of the last round.  I admire Horn for the aggressiveness he shown but I think the score card is way too much  ;D.  I believe it was a close fight. :D.  Anyway it is proven that this boxing is often times rigged and have lots of controversial decision and often times they decide the outcome of the game on the next possible event.  Congratulation to Horn and all Australian out there you have a new World boxing Champion  ;D

LOL!
https://mobile.twitter.com/HaroldHowardUFC/status/881380232632127488/video/1

Good Teddy Atlas is having a heart attack now.

ESPN are just made billions on this fight and are going to get the top matches now.

This Horn guy who just beat Manny and nobody thought he would go the full length of the fight, even old teddy atlas by the way he is just saying he should of never won makes it looks like he had $2 million on Pacquiao, is saying he wants FM

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/881381391614849024/pu/vid/720x720/YfsmCikkMdGjHG-H.mp4

 :D

i think that pacman should have won the fight because his opponent have any deduction in points. Horn is using dirty move like headbutt and the usage of elbows. I think that because it is horn's hometown thats why he won. still a good match tho

I guess we have to accept the reality the manny is already old and he cannot take down a younger opponent who's agressive enough to bet him. I bet on manny and lost money in this game but the game IMO was fairly judge and it's pretty clear Horn came out more hungry for a win.

Im not sure if anyone elses noticed but after those 2 headbutts. Manny showed his power like before in round 9.

As age goes manny is getting slow and loss his aggresiveness but I cannot complaint that he has still those power punches.

But he cannot carry younger boxers and especially when it comes to dirty gameplay.

Yeah manny is so old enough that he loses his stamina and aggressiveness in the match. But as far as i know Manny still the fair and honest player i've ever watch in Boxing because ever since he started boxing he never do dirty place. Thanks a hands down for him.

That round 9 was my favorite. Horn suddenly felt the fear from the Pacman and just went running and running around the ring.
His guard was not up anymore. Pacman kept chasing with left and right. I hoped he get a solid one that time. Too bad it didn't happen.

Wups.  I guess there were lots of people who lost their bets then?  ;D

Pacquiao is a Senator now, I guess all the comforts of life plus him getting older has made him lose some of his aggressivenes and some hunger to win.

And is this a preview of what could happen in the May vs Mac bout?  ;D

There are a lot of people probably lost in the outcome, it's good that I hadn't bet because I might have lost as well. I haven't seen the match but I think it's somehow been a dirty fight and I don't know if they are just biased or not. It's decided in the end and you can't change the outcome anymore, even if you watch the replay, lol.

The ones who made money in this bet are the ones that thought the judges were going to rig the fight.
I'll watch it later since it was well July 1 and I was busy today but based on the radio commentary I heard and the news and stats this looks like it was a rigged decision, time for a rematch I guess.
And a gambling lesson the house has a fix.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718270-jeff-horn-upsets-manny-pacquiao-in-controversial-unanimous-decision

iam not believe pacqiao lost from jeff horn
i think pacqiao must retiered, because this now is not young, is old
if not same mike tyson, before retiered only lost every play

I feel so sad that Manny Pacquiao lose via split decision and i think its not fair because Horn have dirty fight. But its okay i know that all filipinos proud to him for his humbleness. And Manny have a good great also.

Manny had a good fight and even the statistics favor him. It was a dirty fight and it was all plain to see. But I also believe that Manny should retire while he's on top. He has proven himself already. He has given his country something to be proud about. He now has to prove that he has a mettle in the congress. While I think his mind and spirit still can fight his body and speed says otherwise.

Wow. I was just moments away from putting a wager on Manny but held back. Throughout the fight I was regretting it, and even the result still had me puzzled, but there is little to question that Horn won it, maybe a little less fair and a little less square, but a good win in his camp.

A little sad though, I feel like Manny got riled midway somehow. I hope we haven't already seen his best behind him. Am from Borneo, btw.

Yes we must be proud to pacquiao. He fought smart and evenly. His punches was clean even if he know that horn is playing dirty tactics. well for me pacquiao won the fight. even the celebrities who were there was disappointed about the result of the fight. maybe a rematch will be done about this because the results was not good.

I was impressed by the aggressiveness of horn on that fight tho he still tasted pacmans power especially on the round 9. I was also disappointed on how the dirty little tricks of horn only if he fought farely and defeated pacman i  will salute him but for now his victory is not convincing for me

For all the people that saying why Paquiao is still fighting? Paquiao should stop fighting and concentrate to politics. As per his wife Jinky Paquiao, her husband is still fighting because his love his country and boxing is his fashion from old time up to present. Just respect Paquiao's fasion and patriotic.

Thats the thing mate it looks like its not a convincing win coming out for horn aside from the dirty tricks its also looks like a home court advantage horn defeat the peoples champ infront of his countrymen but for sure many will question this game.

No. Jeff Horn lost to Paquiao IMO. Even commentators disgusted how judges screw with the decision. Or even stats. Stats proved Manny was the victor not Jeff. It's the hometown decision. And this Horn got the nerve to call out Mayweather for a fight. Paquiao almost knock him out at that 9th round. Boxing is more corrupt these days. But despite of dirty tactics of horn, paquiao still manage to fight horn in a clean way. Also fuck the referee who is sucking Horn's dick the whole fight.

What a rigged! Manny Pacquaio should have won the fight. Next fight that we need to watch Floyd MayWeather againts Conor McGreggor.

In my opinion this  'win' for jeff was a bad decision. manny landed 192 punches compared to Horn's 92. He had better accuracy at 32%-15%. jeff was battered and bruised in the end. The only marks manny got were from the accidental headbutts. Another fight which brought shame upon boxing. I am disappointed for pacquiao and for true boxing fans.

Congratulations to Horn and its really sad to see that pacquiao lost this bout and i really didnt expect it for it to happen. When i saw on the first round pacquiao do really have the hard time to reach out and land punches because of its disavantage on reach we do see that horn has long span compared to him and im little bit seeing a flaw on referees decision specially when he told Horn that "no worry im here to protect you" those words cant really be removed on my mind.

Though i think pacquiao's time is passed and it's time to retire to focus on other things, this one is his win clearly. I'm not sure how the judges saw the fight but it ws pretty clear to a lot of people who won. Even the compubox results clearly states who landed more punches which basically determines who won. It's the second time it happened that pacquiao was robbed as this seem the case with his first bradley fight

The whole match was rigged to the bone, damn even Horn's face after the game is a testament about who should have won the game, Pacquiao loss in yesterdays match should tell him that its time to retire from the game and commit his time fully to political career and his rematch against Mayweather is definitely not gonna happen.

Oh my gosh, if only I put some bet into this. I actually won!! I just don't know where to bet online and put some of my bitcoin, I really think that Horn will actually won because I think this fight is just only for money now.

Really bad decision made by the judges cleary pacman won the match. So much mafia in here. Boxing now is corrupted by money and politics. This is why MMA is more exciting to watch now than boxing. Im really upset. This is a disgrace for the long history of Boxing

In despite of the decision pacquaio accepts the decision of the winner .Many people had been disappointed in the match but its a fight and we are not the judge so let it be ,Horn wins and its a good fight than floyd and pacquiao's fight.

Oh fuck, I just auto-spoiled myself the fight when I was looking for Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor news in Youtube. I saw that Jeff Horn put an upset win because he mentioned Mayweather in the post fight interview and it showed up in the search list. I just hope to see a good fight now even if I know the outcome. I hate when this happens, this is why I will watch GGG vs Golovkin and Conor vs Mayweather live, because it will be impossible to not get spoiled the very second you open an internet browser.

Being the true sportsman that he is, I don't think pacquiao will still dispute the result since it's already done and over with. All of us who watched the fight knows how it went and who really was supposed to win. I mean, 117-111 in favor of horn? Where did that judge get that scoring? Probably there will be a rematch between these two soon.

Well I just watched it, that guy was really hungry for a win as expected, he knew it was his opportunity of a lifetime to pull an epic upset.

Manny had some unlucky accidental head cuts blocking his vision with blood. He almost KO'd Horn in the 8th-9th I dont remember, but Horn was wobbly ready to go out, but showcased amazing recovery and won the remaining rounds. I think it was a 7-5, but it was a close fight, closer than a lot claim. So many headbutts by Horn, and the choking too should have discounted some points. Im not sure if enough to call this a robbery for Pac tho.

Also Horn is delusional to call out Floyd. He would get outboxed.

i didn't watching the match but i saw the news that the judge has been made controversial decission and Pacquiao was lose and Horn  is the new champion however i think that was terrible that most people already bets for him even people in my country putting pretty much money because they thought Pacquiao will defend the title

Does a relative unknown like Horn having a competitive fight with Manny Pacquiao prove someone like Conor McGregor might be able to hang with Floyd Mayweather?

Judges definitely robbed Pacquiao when he fought Timothy Bradley. I don't agree with them awarding Horn the fight, either.

I remember Manny saying awhile ago he prefers to fight outside the united states due to him losing a lot of money paying US taxes.

Fighting in australia doesn't seem to have worked out well, either.

I haven't watch the game either and it's really upsetting a lot of people that Horn won this match. And I don't know how it came possible he won. Horn is still an undefeatable one, maybe he's trying to make his record clean and doesn't want some lose on it. Well that's the life of boxing, sometimes you win sometimes you lose.

It's obvious that Pacquiao won this fight, even thought Pacquiao is not on his prime age, he showed everyone what a true champion is. Even the score card showed that he won, even the viewers know that he is the winner, but as a champion he respected the judges' decision.

Watching the fight playing dirty won the match headbutts and other back head punches made it seem like Horn did damage but this is not MMA but boxing on the fundamentals Pacquiao showed where it mattered, the judges score card was ridiculous you don't get points for trying hard against the Pac Man even with hometown advantage you get points because your landing clean hits.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/jeff-horn-defeats-manny-pacquiao-ridiculous-decision-blasted-by-us/news-story/d387c7364852499ebc04cc2a1b5adaca
“They gave a win, a huge win, to the local kid for trying hard,” he yelled. “You’re not supposed to get it for trying hard. You’re supposed to get it for winning and I thought Pacquiao won the fight if you go by the real rules of who lands the cleaner punches.”
“No way in hell Horn won unanimously,” he tweeted. “A 117-111 card? Ridiculous. This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”

That said looking forward to UFC vs Boxing in a sense hopefully decided without judges decision

It just proved once again that boxing is corrupted to the core,these judges must be investigated,i am pretty sure that they have taken huge amount of money from gamblers to score the fight like that,if not no one in the right sense will accept those score card.This is what is wrong with boxing all the way and this is what destroying boxing.

When there is money involved you can already expect that there is a corruption, gambling has been known for a corrupt kind of sports even before and now that Pacquiao is on the verge of his retirement the boxing organization are giving it to the new one who destine to be a popular boxing someday.
At first look, I was so disappointed with the way pacquiao fight due to lack of power but I respect your opinion guys that in your opinion Manny had won the fight but whatever we think, we cannot protest anymore in this dirty organization.

This kid is a bum. Though his win is a controversial, i think he is not a worthy opponent for Paquiao. He is dirty as shit. The elbows and headbutts. C'mon, then the ref says that "im here to protect you". Lol. He is lucky he survived that 9th round. If Paquiao go all out there. He is going to sleep. Bob Arum, the judges, and the referee. They're all trash.

 This GAME IS RIGGED!, as everyone watch the game last night or what ever time in your country is for me Many Pacquiao was really the one who won the fight, I'm not saying that Horn was not a good fighter, yes horn was young, lots of stamina, but what he lacks is experience. Pacquiao has more experience was quicker and was smarter on the game, as you can see in the commentators score card you can see that Pacquiao was really in the lead, at first Pacquiao has a slow start but then after like 3 or 4 round he gain his self back and beat out the fk of horn, you can see at between round 8, 9 , or 10 you can see that Horn was really tired and he almost get knocked out but still the judges give him 1 point for that?, That's rigged and also the blood on Pacquiao's face was because of the head but and always holding Pacquioa's head other his arm while punching and also horn is punching when they hug on each other. Is that what you call a clean fight or a clean punch?. The game was fked up, it was in his home town and the judges were probably live in the same home town. The game is rigged and I think that boxing will be over soon. If this continues to happen.

What really stopped him from going all out. :D It is a real disappointing result as i never expected the judges to score the fight like this, i have to watch the fight once again to make sure that the fight i saw was the real one that the judges saw,something really went wrong i guess. :P

Congratulations to those who bet to horn, you got a large money from the odds. It was a controversial win but a win is a win. It is all part of the game. Manny knows how dirty boxing can be and he could have adjusted his tactics.

All sports are corrupted to some point and it's not just boxing. Clearly there was some rigging going on with this fight as there was a lot of money bet on this fight and when there is a lot of money involved then we can expect some rigging which is why I don't bet on boxing at all. I think the rematch will be even bigger so we shall see what happens with that.

I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

The thing is that Pacquiao is younger than Mayweather who is 40 and coming out of retirement to fight Connor Mcgregor of the UFC
So age wise he should retire but if Mayweather can still put up a good fight in the UFC Boxing Bout then that leaves Pacquiao wanting to battle it once more in the octagon ^^. Either way he has a rematch clause so he will get it back when they have a real bout not in rigged Aussieland lol.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.

Decision aside, Horn has fucking heart for days. He was beaten at the end of the ninth and to survive the last three rounds and arguably win two of them was insane heart.

Yup sports now is corrupted by money and politics. It is clearly shoes that, that match is cheated. Statistics and the face after the match says it all.


Lucky for those who betted on Horn. Instant huge income for them

I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown.

Actualy, at the scene of round 9 where paquiao hit horn He can definitely knock Him down, I don't know why Paquiao didn't do such   a punch many by that time instead of doing that He turn back to horn. I think Senator Paquiao much better to resign in His boxing career before its too late.

Well the reputation of the boxing industry seems to be unexplainable with this match. There are people that are looking and are sure of Manny won this fight. But let's see if that's going to be on the plan of Bob Arum and in Manny's side if they are going to have another match to come.

It wasn't fair though that by using his reputation to lose the game. It is obvious that he is the champion but then the opponent's group has somehow offered pacquiao some money despite the decision has made. Technically, Horn wins but in the eyes of people,mostly Filipinos they called it bias. Horn has much muscle pain compare to pacquiao. The unanimous decision is not just and the people who bet for Pacquiao lose the chances of winning. It's just a recurring situation. He is still the winner for he has a big title regardless of the fight with Horn. Probably, there is a rematch. That's is the world of gambling through sports.

Yeah. Everything was just a game as people react. Still, it's gambling because people bet for who wins. However, those who chose Pacman to win of course they were disappointed because eversince they believe that Manny is the world champ. It was a bias decision for sure but then they are the ones to decide so we feel unjust. Though Horn wins, people still chose Pacman for he has contributed a lot in the world of boxing. In the end, Pacman received big amount of money despite his mild injuries.

The ability of a sports man to make as much as he can is a limited window and even at this age he is able to put some good matches and make million,the part is that he cannot come back five or eight years from now because in sports you could make money in a limited period and no one can blame anyone for making that kind of money with a single fight,be it Mayweather or Manny.

I was surprised by this result, although the judges seemed to favor Horn.
Pacman has pulled 100 more punches than his opponent and so it seems strange to me to defeat him.
 Surely he was not at the top of his shape and was unconcerned but he is clearly stronger than Horn.
If the judges really favored Horn, it is a lack of respect for a boxing icon like Pacquaio.

Right the involved money is really hard to resist and knowing how pacman love this game can easily determined that he will still play no matter how criticsizm  will be in his sight and moving back to that particular result even an ordinary person will say that he really win that game.

 They should fight somewhere else. How about in the Philippines for the next time?. Horn is still a kid and needs to learn something. Well obviously boxing is really  corrupt if you want to win you should knocked them off if you cant you obviously lose

Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

Yeah that also what I think  the reason why pacman lost. To win that match he need to knock down horn and that's not happen that's why horn wins even though I don't really like the decision but we cannot do anything about it.

So much biased there. I hope that there will be no more rematch. Pacman doesn't need to prove that he needed a second chance to regain the belt obviously in the eye of the people pacman is still the champ. Anyway I smell rat in the whole boxing scene. Promoters, businessman, and politics boxing now became a bussines fixing fights. I really hate what happnened to boxing.

I heard that Lenox Lewis believed that Pacquiao should have been declared the winner. Lewis is a veteran boxer that knows and is probably not biased toward either. It does sound fishy that so many people saw Pacquiao as the winner but the fight was in the home country of the opponent who was given the win.

Well the US isn't an angel in terms of robbing a fight against the winner but at least horn is not their patriot so perhaps they might want to play it fairly there but I'll advice the pacman that if ever a part 2 happens he should look for an opportunity to knock him out.

Lost some change here. I can't help but wonder if it is a gimmick.
Jeff losing(no rematch)
Pacquiao lost,(fans will be asking a rematch).

2nd match.

Pacquiao wins(fans will be crazy and might ask for a conclusive match).

3rd fight.

Whoever wins they would have made tons of cash.

Horn is obligated to have a rematch, it is in their contract. So if pacman still wants to fight horn, he can demand a rematch. I think he wi demand a rematch. It is all about money anyway.

About fixed fights in boxing, Boxing has been that way anyway. In one point it is even controlled by mafia. This is not something new.

Aussie's know how to cook better than Chief Gordon Ramsay.

I wish Jeff Horn would be willing to have a rematch here in the Philippines. He will for sure be respected if that happens regardless if he lose.And if ever he will lose, the 3rd fight to be held in the USA so no Hometown-advantage.

Well he is not obligated to have a rematch and i think there is no contract of rematch until the both agree just like now they are both open if pacman wants to have a rematch .Pacman still wants to fight and not to defeat his title before re resign in sport of boxing .
Money isn't matters most in the game because pacman was already a billionaire as far as i know .

Well i don't think there's any need for a rematch and any need for pacquiao to fight again at all. Let's face it, his age showed during that fight. Though it was clearly a robbery, that pacquiao would lose to a more high calibered opponent. I think it's already time to pacquiao yo seriously consider retiring.

It's obvious to all of us but when Manny was interviewed he is just smiling and there is no heavy reaction coming from him. He is just being a good sportsman and yet he has bigger shares for this fight, with the PPV and the profit from the tickets and other sources that generated big money for top rank promotions.

There are a lot of histories about australian boxing bouts being rigged. I can not confirm this or deny it, who knows, it's possible, but I don't think it was as clear as a robbery.

Jeff did a good job, even tho he ruined his point advantage with a lot of headbuts and whatnot.

It's hard to say, it's more like a tie to me.

True and that is one of the main reason why he can't quit boxing just yet. As we can all seethat fight was on Pacquiaos favor. The world thought that Manny won that fight. But as we can all see this game is all about business. This is nothing new especially to boxing. Money have changed the hearts of people and it is using sports as a cover. Remember the interview on what Manny can say about the decision, I think he just said that he will just prepare for a rematch so that fight is expected to happen that way and it goes according to plan.

oh well we can't argue with that because manny have his pride so instead of quitting he will pursue and have a rematch proving that he's the real winner and making those game manipulator to earn much bigger money, and with this drama horn will be like bradley its really disappointing yet since im a filipino and i love manny i will still be betting for him.

Rigged or not we can't changed now the decision. It's up to the history now.

Im surprised with the aging Pacquiao. Imagine, he can still fight blow by blow at his age against the younger Horn. He still have that power and quickness. For those Pacman critics who saying that Pacquiao past his prime, wtf what do you think of him? Still like the old days at the age of 38? Of course today obviously he is not the prime Pacman in the past. They are not using their common sense here. They didn't realized that despite of his age, he can still wreck a younger boxer's face and send them to hospital. That's the power.

Now wondering when is the next money match. :)

It should happen soon or I will be happy if this will take place on december and when this bout will take place it will surely give a good
christmas presents to the pacman fans. I heard the rematch will be in the Philippines, I'm sure pacman is still the favorites here despite
the past showing.

I agree with you as soon as possible it is good .they have no major injuries to have a long recovery maybe it will set on february or march as the most fights happens .In the philippines will be the fight? I think it is much good to happen in Vegas .

I don't understand people either, it's like they are just not watching and understand that he is way past his prime but still a bad ass. Hope he could be a bad ass senator too in my opinion. Lol

Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.

We can't take back the decision atleast Horn is getting what he deserved because of rigged and that's what I like. He is having tremendous bashing now. And this fought will be in history as rigged and will be stamped in people's mind and yet Horn is still proud of this win. This kinda win is something you shouldn't be proud of, shameful instead.

Let's stop talking about the game is rigged because we cannot do anything about it, it's boxing and gambling as well so big interest will always be followed.
Remember it was not played in Vegas where Pacquiao is very popular, it was played in Austrilia in front of thousands of Aussies, you cannot expect a fair decision especially that Pacquiao were not able to knock out the opponent. Just be grateful they delivered a good fight and we will just wait if there is a rematch.

The favor will go to the home land where they are playing. Let's forget this match as we do have our very own winner and it's clear to our minds. Upon watching the replay of that match, it will tell you who's the clear winner for this. Judges are judges and we are just watchers and supporters, fans that are watching at home or somewhere. Manny is happy with the fight and he doesn't have any grudge with it but I know he's upset in other way.

Maybe we can see a part two of this fight. Rematch is likely to happen if Manny Pacquiao don't retire but for me he should retire now. There is nothing to prove for him because he's a legend now. If the rematch will be happen maybe the venue now is at las vegas.

Manny should have expected that. He has a very long career in boxing and he should know that some things might not go well. He had fights with dirty boxer and did he think that complaining inside the ring will make him win? It's the opponents' gameplan because Manny is very hard to knockout so that's why they need to go dirty in order to defeat him.

The only thing I love about Manny Pacquiao is his sportsmanship. Even though he knew that he has the advantage in that match, He still accepts the defeat without bad feelings or complains. But as a fan, I feel that the result is not fair considering that the statistics released by ESPN are in favor to Pacman and one of the blind judge scores 117-11 in favor to horn. Horn also was been knocked down and almost finish at round 9.

Manny said to an interview in the Philippines, that he has no bad feelings after the result to that match. He said he is in boxing for long time and the result was not new to him, but what is his concern was the referee which he said who doesnt have the knowledge to do his job.

The Philippines Games and Amusement board has filed a protest against the result of the boxing match between the two. I think  the result will not be overturn although they can have a rematch. But for me its time for Pacquiao to really retire for good. He is getting old and we must admit he is not the same Pacquiao that we know of. At least retire while you are on top and still in shape.

I have an opposite opinion. Pacquiao is still in shape for boxing. People just mistakenly overlook the speed of money because of size of horn and speed too. I said that he is still in shape because he bring a lot of damage to young horn. Look on his face and can you tell me if he is in good condition after the match compare to Pacman?

I guess he has that attitude but his not showing that to the people. Maybe when he came home he can't believe and only laughing at the decisions from the judge. It's a pride from him but still he got the biggest take home for this game but if he is still in good health and can have a good deal, probably we'll see a rematch.

And you just repeated what this people you quoted said.

Anyways, I will be locking this thread now as the match already have concluded and there were of course many disappointed fans like me.
If any news comes out regarding a rematch, I will reopen this thread.