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Who does this scam accusation concern?

The 'SIGT' Signatum coin project. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.0)
Updated: The new moderated thread for the scam 'reboot' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2303471.0)

Why is it considered a scam?

Because it bears all the usual hallmarks of every other shitcoin pump and dump operation that has gone before, from forum accounts routinely posting false claims of 'insider news' about major industry interest, to insanely high trading volumes on YoBit exchange which are abnormal for a coin lacking in any useful tech or innovation.

It was launched in July off the back of claimed technical innovation:

But the only feature it apparently has is a supposedly 'ASIC resistant' algorithm which, as any person knowledgeable in cryptocurrency would know, is only relevant for coins which are pure Proof-of-Work (PoW) based. This coin, however, has but a 100-day period of PoW before it is due to switch to Proof-of-Stake (PoS), which means the entire basis for its claims towards innovation are utterly irrelevant.

Its 'whitepaper' is devoid of anything of substance, bar for the repeated reference to said 'ASIC resistant' algorithm and is, clearly, merely designed to fool those new to this field into believing it to be a coin with technical and potential value.

In its OP it also attempts to claim that a 'user' (not a 'team member') has written an article on it, in an attempt to imply again industry interest which doesn't exist. That 'user', however, and their website, is simply just another layer of the fraud:

Its ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.0) Is currently being swamped by scammer sock-puppet accounts attempting to bury this information exposing it as an obvious pump-and-dump scam, which of course simply serves to prove it is not a legitimate project.

Avoid at all costs and, more importantly, learn to spot the signs of these scams, they aren't exactly subtle but newbie FOMO and inexperience means that these scumbags are often able to fool many into parting with their bitcoin to buy or mine-and-hold these useless coins.

Apparently one of the 'dev team' for this scam is looking for someone to sell them a bitcointalk account that has to be at least older than the date of when his shitcoin was launched:

Because there's nothing suspicious about what he might want that particular requirement for, right?

I'll give you a hint, it won't be for anything honest.

Update with today's repost of his quest for buying a forum account so he can do something fraudulent with it:

Update with a reference example of the type of sock-puppet shill account operated by the scammers all through this thread to pump the coin:

ok,we now can discuss here, with all those sites,and blogs,this is a marketing move by one of the team member (crowetic or whatever,dont remember his "internet" name) he called himself a signatum leader at that time,then pumped signatum with a lot of 'info positive' moves,than spread FUD tryed to take control over coin,and dumped it to the ground.
(sorry for my english)

you worry about a lot of fake accounts defending Signatum,but you dont worry about FUDsters that have a lot of fake accounts and do FUD there,you can call a new member BOT,but FUDster with 3-4 accounts with almost same names is normal.

Sure, because every time a shitcoin thread is exposed for being the shitcoin the fanbois and shills scream "FUD!!!1!11!!!".

The points I raised are valid and proven, this coin has absolutely nothing of value going for it, yet it has been hyped and promoted with bullshit 'inside info' claims repeatedly posted throughout its thread and has an artificially high trading volume.

This is all so very old as far as cryptocurrency scams go. If you can't accept that you are either suffering from serious sunk-cost fallacious reasoning or you're part of the scam.

Lol....scam or not I made a small fortune mining it when it first came out. ;D

Here is a link to the interview that the Signatum Team doesn't want you to hear. It is their current DEV "the Doctor" talking about how he helped manipulate another shitcoin.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&feature=youtu.be  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&feature=youtu.be)



In this interview you will notice that "The Doctor" will refer to this "user" as "part of the development team right from the beginning".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&feature=youtu.be  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&feature=youtu.be)


Scamcoins are like a pyramid scheme or a ponzi scheme - at the end there are "bagholders" - this means that the value that is being traded will eventually end up having no value. The last person is the "bagholder" - they will loose everything. By promoting and trading a scamcoin you will eventually dupe the "bagholder". Unsuspecting newbies are often recruited to promote the coin. They will really believe in what they are doing - but their inexperience and nonobjective view based on getting only one side of the story makes them ideal pawns.

Listen to the interview and see if you still think this isn't run by scammers.

UPDATE: The Doctor is the same Dr. "Asif Masood Baloch" PhD from the Poolminers, Crypto Commerce, Digital Rupees and SARcoin scam

https://i.imgur.com/P8O3rmZ.jpg

The "doc" video on SARcoin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AsUrvtCIPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AsUrvtCIPA)

RECOGNISE THE VOICE FROM the burstcoin interview ? (Doc Audio):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&feature=youtu.be  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&feature=youtu.be)

No it doesn't, what an utterly arbitrary claim to make and one that clonecoin scammers rely on people to believe so they can keep encouraging them to hodl because...[insert future moon reason here]. All the while they're offloading their shitcoin for bitcoin to any sucker they can con.

I can not agree with you , you cant check IP and computer personal code ,to say that user is really having a lot of accounts,you cant put negative rating to newbie,just because its new account,everyone can have his own opinion,you and me also,Signatum is always on top not because ones that defend it,but because of FUDsters,because people reply to them,if you check signatum topic well,there is a very low activity when there is no FUDsters,topic is on top just only because FUD. I do not defend signatum,for me its just another coin to make money,and I already did it. If it will have future ill be happy,because ill keep small amount of coins left,If not,i really wont care,because there is a lot of coins that were good,and forgotten now.

now lest talk a little about signatum devs and you,you act same like them,with all those"shit,bot,and a lot of shittalk" if you take a part in this forum to judge people,be POLITE,because i dont like how DOC speak(i dont write a lot about it to not spread FUD) ,i think he as main dev with all his "shit gay burn" do most damage to coin reputation ,i can talk like that ,because I am simple user,you cant,because you are like "policeman" he cant,because he is FACE of his product,and when he talk like that,i see not face but other part of body that sit on toilet,same apply to you. (sorry for my english)

@cryptodevil Thank you so much for the warning! Really appreciate the work you have done!

Why are you saying this?

I mean, yeah, it may pump/dump. That doesn't mean it is a scam.

The only thing i can see is that you are trying to lower the price.

But, in case i am wrong and you really this SIGT it's a scam:

Did you see how big Signatum community is?

Why don't you go to Discord chat and talk with devs and staff? They are almost 24/7.

What a childish guy...

SMH.

A pump-and-dump is, by definition, a scam predicated on creating fake substance for, and interest in, a project for which there is nothing of value whatsoever in order to sell it to the gullible in exchange for their bitcoins.

Okay, mister Judge. You were afraid to answer my post in oficial Signatum topic, i will repost it here.

You dont know anything about coin, you didnt even know about existing of sigt before it was listed on yobit. 95% of all coins is pump and dump for profit - what is wrong with it ???

And the last, for example, 3 days ago i bought some sigt to buy new GPU card at sigt market place and it was very profitable (https://signatum.store/). Also great that it has escrow service.

You are not the 1st who try to start panic sell of sigt and will be no last. If you want to help the crypto world purge from scam - attack crowetic and co (or is it you?).

Every coin created is only for MONEY,not for all that bright future,man think is make Dev`s rich,one devs put a lot of work to make them rich,other less,i dont like Doc ,as I said because he is Face of his product,but acts like an ASS,but every coin is made for only thing,profit.

A lot of coins (big projects) even have a marketing team,that work with your mind,to make coin rise and make you invest in it,buy it.

Rofl, better make another 500+ Scam threads for all the other shitcoins that get pumped daily.

Admitting they are pump-and-dump scams is not justification for them.

The rest of your 'facts' are utter bollocks, that is why I didn't bother answering to them.
Doesn't change the fact of the project being a pump-and-dump scam with fake 'industry interest' and fake exchange volume for a coin with zero technical value promoting itself as 'innovative'.

So you admit the trading volume is fake but think that's perfectly fine because...reasons.

It's still fraudulent misrepresentation for financial gain.

It doesn't matter if it is combining 1000 algos together, 'ASIC resistance' in a 'new algo combination' for a 100-day PoW is irrelevant when there are already plenty of algorithms available to use for which ASICs do not exist. There is NO VALUE to this 'feature'. What is so hard to understand?


The devs mined the shit out of this coin and set about creating fake volume and fake forum posts pretending there was real industry interest in this coin. That is the scam, selling their bags of shitcoin for bitcoin! Nobody with half a brain in this industry would consider this 'innovative' coin to have any innovation of value whatsoever, they are lying to you!

FFS man, do some research! Every other clone-a-coin scam buys white-label marketplace and web-wallet code that they simply stick their logo on! It costs next to nothing to do and is not evidence of utility in any way whatsoever. As for 'masternodes', they are simply another way for the market-manipulating 'devs' to con you all into buying coins from them, or hodling the ones you have mined instead of selling them, in the hope you'll get a 'masternode' of some future-value for a coin which lacks ANY value.


You are being conned, grow up and accept it.

its your personal opinion without any facts, Signatum has a pretty huge community and its still growing.

with all you spamposts you only make yourself more ridiculous

If you are here,and this topic is already created,lets talk about this coin,because everyone know that there is a lot of shit coins,but topic created about this coin,so we have option,protect it by facts,or leave project.

Naive newbie or scammer account? Because you also appear to be into that other bullshit coin the SIGT scammers promoted on their cryptovore.com website:

I follow this coin from begin, I already made my money,and I have own picture of it, i wont tell now good or bad,because its only what i think,time will show. But its a fact that there is price manipulating,only question,by who...

Have a look at the OP's trust you muppet.

So I negatively rated another account TWICE for posting ponzi threads and it has one in my name, so it must be my account?

Because, as I already pointed out, it is absolutely impossible for anyone other than me to register a domain or social media account with this username, right?

Muppet.

At some point (last night) I almost believed in your words in signatum announcement that this is scam and nearly transferred half of my mined coins to be sold in YoBit.
Luckily you spam like a 10 year old with three + accounts and it clearly suggests that you are not a clever or trusted person and most likely have health problem. Everybody can speculate and that is what you are doing. You do not provide any evidence at all, just your opinion based on paranoia?
Why you are confusing people ? Did somebody pay you to do it? If you have a health condition you should check it out, because sitting by PC all day and spreading fud will not make it better..
Few days ago I was reading a post with a headline "London Socialite Missing For Almost Two Years Found Sleeping Rough In Milan"
Poor woman had a health condition called "schizoaffective disorder". I think you should have your brain checked out - just in case you image yourself as a crypto policeman.
Here is copy paste from that post as evidence that you most likely have mental problems:

 "....begun to suffer from schizoaffective disorder in her mid-20s and was cared for by her parents until they both died five years ago. It adds that Lak would often refuse her medication in the belief it was poisoning her.

Signs of her illness apparently began to manifest in 2011 when she opened a new Facebook profile calling herself Princess Ariane Lak.

She claimed to be a descendant of the Iranian royal dynasty the Qajar Monarchy and “the Royal Highness of Caucasia and a Frank Princess to Europe with millions of followers worldwide.”

Mental Health charity Mind lists some of the symptoms of schizoaffective disorder as delusions that one is “very powerful” and has “special insight, divine experiences or magic powers.” The Royal College of Psychiatrists adds sufferers can experience episodes that are combinations of both psychotic and bipolar symptoms.

According to the NHS, it may occur just once in a person’s life, or come and go and be triggered by stress."

Hope this will open your mind to treatment :)

You have no logic (and brain) in your short researched contents/posts. If there is something to learn from your posts, you have a rough personal life (or no life at all), something is really wrong with your health and/or you are trying so hard to impress whoever is behind you on this. You are a loyal servant and don't mind your image getting publicly damaged for the pay checks you receive for it. And yeah, every crypto currencies pump and dump. And that includes the coins you support or go against. No matter, how many new threads you open, you have no point to prove except FUDing and Nobody gives a damn to your legendary credentials (I see how you earned it) and self-proclaimed crypto-police shit.

yes i'm naive newbie or an absolute intellent AI Bot with full options..  ;D
but wait on cryptovore.com there also listed DeepOnion, Siacoin and Denarius. So this is also shitcoins and scam?

ohnoo i'm absolutly newbie i hold all those shitcoins  ::)

Nice info bro  :) :) , btw i have made some good GPU roi with this scam coin. truly scam coin because in a few week my rig roi has been shorten. hahaha

good opinion,"make me profit - not scam,made my profit - scam"

To a good connoisseur, a drop is lyrics.
Only 100 days POW to not give time to create the machines ASIC.
Are you dumb or do not know how to read?

Get a life another paid fudder paid by crowotic or whatever his name.

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Clearly, this a fud thread, we should treat like one. What pump and dump are you talking about, If we listen to you then every dam coin is a pump a dump, even the Bitcoin itself.

Any altcoin marketing itself with a *new hash* should be a huge red flag. It's probable that <1% of the people on this forum understand why.

This reminds me of a case, where the shills were faking conversations by spamming (seemingly coherent) one-liners in order to cover up any criticism raised against the project. As I've written in the thread, you should summarize a list of account that need to be tagged.

Yeah I might do that at some point but at this time I'm trying to get a feel for which accounts are definitely sock-puppets and which are just gullible newbie fanbois suffering from 'sunk-cost' fallacy. So I tend to tag a bunch I have good reason to suspect are the scammer accounts and then can usually gauge from the subsequent behaviour whether they are.

It is clear that Signatum is merely their current scam-of-choice, as there are obvious connections to some other clonecoin scams they are involved in, such as 'Virta Unique Coin' and 'Altcommunity', which appear to have been left on hold while they play this one out for all they can get.

I'm also seeing suggestions of involvement with something called 'chaincoin' and a couple of others but, frankly, there are so many that at some point you just have to accept the limitations of what can actually be done to stop it and focus mostly on alerting newbies to the facts. I do remember during 2015 when a plethora of ridiculously-named coins were coming out, like 'Gorilla Bucks' with ticker names like 'NANAS', and thinking at the time that the scammers were simply taking the piss at that point and weren't even bothering to create credible-sounding projects.

thanks ; i'll stay away

 ;D ;D Wondered how long it would take before I received a negative status, this @CryptoDevil honestly thinks anybody cares about the trust rating on bitcoin talk?. The fact that he does clearly indicates he must live in an authoritarian, possibly dictatorial country, where people are easily subdued by threats or reprisal.

You have allowed yourself to freely express your opinion, and spam on any thread, and yet you feel that nobody has the right to contest or counter that opinion, wake up.

You could give me the maximum amount of negative status, it really would not matter to me or anyone else, so please continue. As a matter of fact i challenge you to give me the MAXIMUM possible, I would really appreciate that, it makes me stand out more in the talk threads, as a matter of fact even with this that you have already gifted, i still stand out, "Infamy and Fame walk hand in hand"

Ironic that you have actually drawn more attention, to the users you where ultimately trying to silence  ;)

My only concern is I don't think you will have the powers invested, to give me more, I feel i may be talking to a false Devil.

So if you don't mind, at your earliest convenience could you please give me the maximum level of negative trust, I know your a busy kid giving everybody else negatives but if you could please fast track my order for more i would greatly appreciate that.

Kind regards.

Lord Epicyclic
 
PS. I am not Joking, I need at least -50

He is not.

There is no such thing as "repeated scamming posts".

Maybe, maybe not. It depends on who you ask.

That's the whole idea behind the trust system, "self-proclaimed" ratings based on the view of the individual users. You are free to tag someone for something, or free to not do so (although DT comes with a *implied responsibility*, but this is not the thread to discuss that).

Nobody in their right mind, with an IQ that surpasses that of a monkey, could honestly state such a thing. Sure, you can choose random scam/shit coins hoping to profit. However, making one of such your "personal favorite" is a huge warning sign.

I don't think you will find plenty of people, those with actual seniority and knowledge regarding the trust system, that will agree with you on that.

Trust ratings are not moderated unless there is extreme abuse (and in this case, they can only be removed by Theymos). This is not such a case, not even close.

Hm According to the Signatum thread it is a "fairly launched" coin  ::)...
OCminer listed the coin... ::)
The coin is listed on exchange "cryptopia"  ::)
And I noticed some sockpuppets of user "Digitalindustry"  ::) (for the people who don't know who is "digitalindustry" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954.0)

I think I can add Signatum to my list. It would not surprise me if Signatum is from the same copy coin cloner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1966967.0

It wouldn't surprise me either. Many of the shill accounts on that thread have similar 'tastes' in clonecoins it seems. Although some of their sock-puppetry is a bit lazy, take a look at this account created solely to create a raft of pump posts in a period of only 12 hours:

No doubt, "Thedudemeister" = Digitalindustry (DI) ;)

I scrolled a little bit through the Signatum thread and found many typical DI sockpuppets.
Here another one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg21078520#msg21078520
or this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22147629#msg22147629

Compare writing style of "habeas_corpus" and  "shankar94" for example with these posts (scroll up and down to see more posts of him on the same page):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg2561719#msg2561719

I still vote this one as the most stupidest sockpuppet of DI ever:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg2581363#msg2581363

To clarify, DI is not the copy coin cloner. That is account user "Signatum".
Account user Signatum cooperates closely with DI, who scams his copied coins. DI lives in Australia (maybe that explains his word choice like "mate").
For some coins the copy coin cloner and DI share their account (for example for quarkcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg8810554#msg8810554).

For Chaincoin and UNO the copy coin cloner use another (I think German) scammer, who also creates dozens of sockpuppets to cheer for his coin.


Edit:

In this thread he also posts with sockpuppets:
"Brunosa": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.msg22100194#msg22100194
And "Epicyclic"  see above

In this thread he also posts with sockpuppets:
"Brunosa": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.msg22100194#msg22100194
And "Epicyclic"  see above
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Oh well, guess we are cut from the same cloth then, you and I.

I am a sockpuppet, and you are a cocksock.

I have a hand up my ass, you have a cock in yours. Horses for courses.

Anyway big favor to ask, could you be ever so kind as to leave me negative trust rating old bean, I am not sure one will sleep very well tonight unless you do. ;)

Lol DI
If you talk to me like that I always confuse you with Spoetnik ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833442.msg9362843#msg9362843

That's good for you, but there's always people who make money on Ponzi schemes, but
only in the beginning.  After that, everyone loses except for the perpetrator of said Ponzi.  So
your argument carries no weight.  Cryptodevil is probably right, this is a scam.  Have to say,
though, I've never even heard of Signatum.  Nor do I put any money in ICOs, even if I do rent
out my signature for them occasionally.

Best thing anyone can do is ignore that whole altcoin ANN section.  It's nothing but a festering
load of dung that attracts flies (noobs).

Yes that is good, I suppose if you are being referred to as a cock, eating cocks, or possessing one in your anus a lot, you may need to re-evaluate if there is any truth to it, however, I need negative trust, would you be so kind as to leave me some, please.
i would like to be the most villainous account holder on Shitcointalk.

It is my destiny.

Cryptovore was a user at the launch and now he is mentioned as a team member, due to his contribution to the project.
I don't know what kind of scamming it is, LOL.
This kinda really hard delirium.
And whats wrong with his blog? Crypto-blog, launched 2017-06-07 ( 07 june i guess), at the beginning of crypto-gold rush, it's a crime?
there is  my answers to this guy at the signatum thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22141309#msg22141309
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22143926#msg22143926
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.msg22144325#msg22144325
Still without any reasonable counter arguments.

I'm starting to think you are right, i'm a guy that is hard to convince me of anything. I feel something is off here with SIGT.

Dump it  while you can

i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

i defended signatum but now i understand this is a scam... i sell all good luck gut and good music

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD5qNkPUJGNSjXb04ZQIgbg

for me if you create a coin you need to put your face in...

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?

Thanks, another coin to stay clear of, a lot of pump and dump scams as of late.

yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...

https://i.imgur.com/XN2k5Lz.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/XN2k5Lz.jpg)

now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people ????

sorry for my english

LOL, it looks like he is actually pretending to be James Hinton by answering you that he also plays piano and guitar.

The actual musician @therangejames (https://twitter.com/therangejames) is not 'skankhunt42'.

yep and i hate this shit becaouse i belive in sigt..

I invested so much into SIGT, Look how low it is still, 900 Satoshi? Why didn't you tell me it was a SCAM sooner cryptodevil? The only ones that got richer is the DEV's.

I responded to a DM somebody sent me alerting to the fact that this clonecoin had been fleecing ill-informed newbies, by investigating and posting my findings immediately in order to warn them. There are so many scam operations running in this industry that it is nigh-on impossible to know of them all and, as you can see in the Signatum thread, and most other scams I have posted warnings in, the response from the fanboi and scammer shill accounts is usually an aggressive attempt to keep burying these warnings as quickly as possible, requiring even more of my time and attention maintaining a persistent presence for these advisory posts in order to ensure the majority of victims are alerted to the facts.

Scammers are highly motivated to discredit and demean any threat to their ability to continue defrauding their victims. Add to that the mix of newbie fanbois who convince themselves it cannot be a scam because they've invested so much money into it already, and the chorus of 'shoot the messenger' is supported even further, adding to the difficulty in promoting the truth within such threads.

This is why there is little point in trying to tag all scams, because there would only be time to post the occasional warning in each, which would be swiftly buried.

Everybody wants to believe they can get in on the ground floor of a coin which will 'moon' to stratospheric values so they can get rich without having to do anything more than click on a few exchange trades. If the coin has no unique and innovative tech which serves to provide a new way to solve an existing problem, or doesn't have a viable commercial platform and economic model, it has no value whatsoever and is being traded solely on speculative hype and lies, constantly looking for 'greater fools' to sell on to.

As i said, learn to spot the signs, they aren't difficult to see. You just have to take off your FOMO-tinted spectacles.

i predict the future...
now price is 830 after 3 days go to 970 1100 beacouse a good news of wallet or maket place..
3 day at that interval of price and go down again to 800 and so on untile a new good news for market place or web wallet ... and again again
after this there is a jolly masternode if the waters become agitated. all fine itself
master node with not to hight an not to love price .. maybe 50000 sigt and price go up..and when down again beacouse al fine itself and people don't invest in it.

Actually there is little reason to believe the scammers would now risk the bitcoin needed to artificially lift the market that high again. Their scheme has been exposed and apart from a few fanbois they might be able to con into believing it is still legit, they've run out of free space to operate unchallenged.

This means they would have to be willing to risk buying back in to the market with bitcoin that might just be dumped on in a panic sell by those still left holding worthless bags of coin.

I don't think there's much time left before they exit the scam with something like, "Due to all the FUD we've decided to quit this project because we can't be expected to work under these conditions...etc." before firing up one of the other coins they've been keeping on ice during this period and promoting it under new forum accounts as the next big 'innovative' load of bollocks.

You made people to see other parts of body sit on toilet cryptodevil, problem with crypto is the lack of a governing system, this is why in the real world

We have governments, if you let people to do whatever they want, this happens with 5-6 new shitcoin being announced every day. one must be a total

Retard, total fucking retard to even read their announcement threads. why are you trying to warn total retards mate? they are admitting to be fine as

Long as they earn money, they know it's a scam but they don't care. there is a button if you push it people will lose money but you will earn money.

These fuckers are punching the button to make sure it is pushed. believe me for people like me there is no need for your warning because I really don't

Want to earn money in this way, if I wanted then I'd deserve to get scammed.

What can I say here...
sometimes when you put facts before some people'a face they still won't accept it.

This is song for all of you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&index=18&list=RDEMM1bA9MEos4DXvLgyT0istQ

Oh, noob. You don't know how markets working? You have not seen the trading volumes on cryptopia.
Their wallet was been shut down and restored a long time
after the growing of numbers transactions from miners pools.

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https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/publications/gp-visit-guide

http://www.sane.org.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoYfi5K_P1gIVJRbTCh27kASAEAAYASAAEgJ6hvD_BwE

There is a growing number of people who are affected by mental health issues. In 1990, 416 million people suffered from mental health disorders such as depression, or anxiety worldwide - these numbers rose to 615 million in 2013 (World Health Organisation, 2016).

We know you are cryptodevil, you are not very clever at hiding that fact, same structure of posts, online when he is offline, similar post time patterns, same use of latin phrases such as reductio ad absurdum, ad hominem and the same obsession with fallacies.  

I would implore you seek out your GP, and discuss your problems, split personality disorder can be just as frightening to those it directly affects.

do not suffer in silence, please get some help.

I genuinely fear for the safety of yourself, and those around you at home.

Good for you, however, in your "insipid" rant just there, you highlighted everything except my claim of who you actually are. The entire community will perceive that as confirmation to say the least.  ;)

 

I am the delusional fuckwit?, a little ad hominem, however, not enough of a fuckwit to require the need to read a post twice, in order to understand its position, or even be so mentally ill, that I have to troll posts for attention, while hiding behind the false persona of being gay..... you must be a yank ;)
 
I will just leave this here...

..."I really wish I had some sort of inkling about what it is you are talking about. I'm just having fun here. Could do without your puerile images though. My wife looked over at the Lappy 486 display and you are dealing with the fallout of her saying WTF"...

And now to top it off, you have aquired a sunk cost fallacy with Signatum, you have invested so much time trolling, you can not walk away from these threads.

Welcome to your new permanent residence  ;D ;D

Well of course I believed you typed that on a 486, what possible reason would I have not to, you are American  ;D ;D

Like I said, sunk cost fallacy, you can not leave this alone now, thus subsequently any reply is making you my bitch  :-* :-*

That is exactly how it works.......bitch  ;D  ;D now do as your told and be a good bitch, keep replying to my posts.  :-* :-*

What a more pathetic person is cryptodevil.
I will not say whether it is scam or not. I already made money with the mining
The community seems to have accepted signatum
Crowetic and crptodevil are the same person
Of all the scams you have posted in this forum
Cryptodevil only attacks signatum. without realizing that his reputation is on the ground

Cryptodevil you must be more man and enter into discord and ask the dev of signatum

and not to take advantage of the status of self-proclaimed avenger of the crypto

I have no idea who this 'Crowetic' is you speak of. I believe he was somebody who originally was involved with this project, yes? If that is the case then he is probably just as guilty as the rest of the 'developers' behind this pump and dump scam.


I call bullshit on that claim by virtue of my post history proving otherwise.

I had a meeting with the developers of the expanse project
and they told me they would not post in this forum by users like you
you should not say swindler
  someone to have a new account I am in the world of crypto for years but I avoid this forum because it is not as before
regards

I mined 40k with few rx 570s  the first day and I was maybe on of the first 10 or 15 to begin mining. I have absolutely no connection to any of the devs or anyone here. I was one of the very first to enter the telegram and discord groups. I was on crow's discord group before the split.  I am a private miner outside USA.

 the sudden announcement and rushed pow stage were not favorable but if you saw the thread as soon as me, you could have started mining and you would receive all of your coins no questions asked. And I, myself being a complete outsider in terms of relationships to this community or to the devs, was able to mine this much in a short amount of time.

Even if the first few to mine were devs or somewhat scammers or whomever, they could have only mined so much maybe a few million coins. And even this is by a very long stretch because I was checking the pools and used the explorer as soon as it was out. There are coins like denarius which are 10% premined. By a very long stretch, if devs were scammers, what they would have 2 or 3 percent of all signatums because a lot of hash entered quite quickly.

From day one to today, I have never seen any evidence by dev's doing, that this is a scam coin. Maybe the devs sold, maybe a miner like me could have sold, but it had two big pumps. They didn't come crashing down. The coin rested well around 2500 3000 k for a while. Then at 1200 1300 for a while. And then it crashed. Everyone knew this wasn't a coin that would revolutionize the world. It was just another coin to make money. You accuse signatum of being shill because the whitepaper says it's revolution etc, but dude, %99 of all coins say the same thing, most have more premined, yet you are nowhere to be found, exposing their scams?

I don't see how these guys setting up accounts and trying to promote their own coin makes them scammers. If I knew enough to build a coin, I would try to create hype. But come on man, it already crashed. I mean it crashed from 4k to friggin 500s. Even if this were a pump and dump, it's already dumped. Why make so much noise after all this. You must either be butthurt by the devs somehow or be crowetic, to take so much time urging people to stay away from this. I mined all my coins and bought some at 200 and 300 sats when it was on coinsmarkets exchange. I never sold a single singnatum even when it was at top. I still wouldn't sell at 4k, because I think the real value of this coin is closer to 1$ and it will reach that one day. If it never reaches, I'm okay with it since It was cheap for me to acquire.

edit: the devs are still around btw. If they were pump and dumpers, why wouldn' they dump at the two first pumps and then leave it be? Or maybe they are preparing for a third pump? you would say?

you say you do not know who is "crowetic"
But if he knows how to defame the signatum developers
Just acknowledge that you did not investigate signatum
Even the newest user in the community knows who is "crowetic"

I was closely watching the thread and posts from crypto until he started raging on them for using common frameworks; saying that made them copy pasta...  Maybe he is not a developer?  Doesn't know?  Suggesting that every library, function and module should be built from source?  Absurd, especially for anything web related (which was main "proof" of copy pasta).  Suppose he just got over-zealous and went over-board / exaggerated.

Eh; for me; I don't trust either side.  Small chance that I will be happily surprised that way.

Same boat, but it was hilarious this cryptodevil guy trying to create FUD because SIGT is using the Bootstrap JavaScript library. It's like, dude, go find a full time job, unless speculation is his full time job. These guys are the reason why cryptcurrencies face inertia from within. We got bigger problems like regulations, and if another coin like SIGT comes along and showcases the tech (even if the tech is the same), what's the BFD. Anyway, I hope people out there, especially newbies, are able to look past and filter people like cryptodevil.

no, he doesnt attack only signatum, better you see his last posts

Welp; i guess you have to give him credit for energy and dedication at least; seems like a lot of effort.

Coming from software startup world; where only 5% make it; imagine coins and ICOs are about the same (if not worse).  So technically if you attacked every new coin; 95% of the time you are probably going be right.

Personally i started mining as a fun side project; i looked at all of this as a massive dumpster fire for money.  I just wanted to play with 8x GPU 1080ti rig cause it looked like fun.  Add in some influxdb to track miner stats; grafana; some hooks into nvidia-smi and mining pool website curl calls running in telegraf.  Eh; i got my money's worth.

signatum was a scam test.. lux coin is the real scam... new algo but with premine..
pow and pos and masternode and less reward for block than signatum so price go up very fast...

LOL! I just spotted this little gem in my 'untrusted' received feedback from Epicyclic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1099846). Not sure if he's the creator of this bit of fakery or he's copied it from someone else but that is some grade-A dumb-fuckery:

The thing I don't get is that it purports to be a post from THIS VERY THREAD!?!

Even more lulz at the claim of 'Administrators' being interested in this shitcoin, as though there is some sort of cabal of bitcointalk Whale Admins who employ the likes of me to help 'FUD' so they can buy cheapcoinznomnomnom!!11!1!!

whatever newbie account says, I buy in a skills of @cryptodevil so far, like an investigative agent hero, a good track record against scammers. Crypt markets have tons of speculators here and there, some how we need them for healthy crypt market and grow, but, not a manipulator or scammer. They should stand at a respectful distance from our crypt markets.

Scammer often behaves to legit things as if it is FUD when they feel the legit things is shown at an inconvenient time. make me funny  8)

Everything is done only for personal earnings. DUMPing is already meaningless, so hero members can stop it :D Lets wait time for PumP

You are spot on !
Dr. Asif Baloch from Pakistan

https://i.imgur.com/07b1o2I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7PyDu8G.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/P8O3rmZ.jpg

The "doc" video on SARcoin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AsUrvtCIPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AsUrvtCIPA)

RECOGNISE THE VOICE FROM the burstcoin interview ? (Doc Audio):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&t=935s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mhEI2BF24&t=935s)

https://i.imgur.com/3D16U0x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qObcMpU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SfE3OC8.jpg

Its a really idiotic attempt at tom foolery.. here is the "real" quote #65 from the thread were you supposedly stated this.. besides, we all know that you have a great grasp of the English language and this quote has some grammatical errors.

Your beautiful charts are still there. There has been a lot of posts since it was revealed that their core developer was a known scammer from Poolminers, Krypto Commerce, Sarcoin and Digital Rupees.

When the wheels started falling off - explorer not working, nodes turned off, websites inaccessible because their main Devs are missing....

It is when reality sunk in.

This is a snippet of their announcement (I copied and pasted the most relevant parts from their announcement - I have to give them credit for their new found honesty https://signatum.org/ (https://signatum.org/)   )

https://i.imgur.com/GMyJlQY.jpg



Hahaha I love the charts. While it is sad that people are loosing money - it injects some humor in the situation.

some updates regarding the signatum scam:

Signatum Team (or whats left of it/ the team doing the coinswap to signatum 2.0) anounced yesterday that the signatum project was in fact a scam by doc asif baloch
everything that has been said on the now closed ANN thread was true.

most important things first:

The signatum qt wallet in fact contains a virus, doc used the wallet to ddos attack burstcoin
it contains a keylogger that in fact steals your passwords and coins if you run other wallets.
this was officially confirmed yesterday on the new signatum discord!


i highly recommend to delete this wallet and run an intensive virus scan on your pc if u used the sigt wallet

i dont know why they did not announce this , on thier signatum.org (http://signatum.org) website
most of the details are there, but this wallet story is a case of cybercrime.
Doc stole all coins from the webwallet (around 300.000sigt) sonnysdaytona was so kind to BUY 300.000sigt from
doc to replace the users coins.. he paid doc with btc for the sigt.... (doc told him the webwallet server was hacked by vietnamese)
Now sonnys whole infrastructure is down because of some hack that doc did, and the police is already on it.

further the new "developers" that basically just did some text edits on github announced they will do a coinswap but
they prefere to stay anonymous as doc did before until his real id was published days ago, stating that being involved
in a cryptocoin would interfere with thier real life jobs... same words as the doc used some time ago...

if there is anyone who lost money on sigt, used the wallet- please report this to the police or your local authorities asap,
Dr Asif Baloch will go to jail for his scams and his cybercrime.

i recommend changing the title of this thread to signatum is a cybercrime!!!

Good advise ! I'n not sure that your information is completely correct but it is certainly concerning and supported by the numerous warnings generated by one version of the wallet.

https://i.imgur.com/63oR3Zu.jpg

https://www.virustotal.com/ru/file/e2e9ddc9c81430b24f08c63a7084aa26c7a3133fdd9406fd1c27684bd20cb129/analysis/ (https://www.virustotal.com/ru/file/e2e9ddc9c81430b24f08c63a7084aa26c7a3133fdd9406fd1c27684bd20cb129/analysis/)

SCAM!!

why criptodevil you don't talk about lux coin?? it's the same scam than signatum

I think the guy called cryptovore, who also goes by the name vikingchild, (I don't know if he uses two nicknames or if they are 2 different people) is a scammer. He deletes and blocks anything about people asking what they will do with swapped signatum 1.0's, he bans anyone who is asking valid questions politely. Either he is stupid as f*** and has no opinion on public relations or he is trying to fool people into his scam. Whichever it is, I'm not sure. I still reserve my judgement on him, though he is unworthy of respect, the way he treats his own community members. But I'm putting up a dossier on him and will consider starting an accusation post dedicated entirely on him and his associates if any. I also see him on luxcoin related stuff. Will investigate that as well.

Here are my two deleted messages on sigt 2.0 topic.

https://imgur.com/a/lVgx8 (https://imgur.com/a/lVgx8)

I also have screenshots of my discord messages and telegram messages which got me banned on both channels by cryptovore. Might release them, but I'm witholding for now.

On telegram he banned me because I said "Hey cryptovore, thanks for banning me on discord, I hope you can survive criticism."   :D

Also on telegram, people mentioned how I got banned on discord for asking what will happent to v1 coins. It even caught their attention, the way I was treated.

So if anyone has any workable info or media on him, proving he is a scammer, let me know by pm.

Thanks

You offered really precious information here. Do you recommend a good AV?

You should always have a good firewall & antivirus
Avast (has free and paid versions)
Eset Nod32 (Windows only)
Kaspersky
are all good choices

Use other software to run malware scans. (e.g malwarebytes)

Also use good internet habits. Don't leave tabs logged onto important websites while your computer is unattended.
Don't klick on untrusted links in emails and don't load software from untrusted sites.
Keep updates up to date.
Avoid holding unnecessary funds on crypto exchanges
Avoid running wallets on important computers (run it on a Raspberry pi or spare computer)
Avoid running multiple wallets on a single computer (in case one has a trojan and steals your other crypto) POS staking makes your wallet potentially a lucrative target.
Avoid using social media / Don't use social media apps

I scanned my system with bitdefender and malwarebytes and havent found any virus. Im probably lucky and have a newer version of the wallet wich is clean

You can submit files to https://www.virustotal.com/#/home/upload (https://www.virustotal.com/#/home/upload) before downloading them to your computer.
This prevents potential viruses even coming near your computer.

Sounds like you had a lot...

I think I had .05-.1 around 700-1200/pc.  It happens

Time. That's why.

There's only so much I can commit to repeatedly warning people off these scams and I have no doubt this 'lux coin' is just another pump and dump, too.


Here's what you can do:
Find a scam, find evidence it is a scam, open a scam accusation thread with the details of the operation and links to the people involved.
DM me about it so I can issue the appropriate negative trust ratings.

Do you own some of that GAYCoin?  Just fig I'd ask given the BCT ID

I had 3 posts deleted today.

https://i.imgur.com/UTpwXFh.png

https://i.imgur.com/pCYt5Dr.png

Criticism not their strong point I take it? Neither is maths, logic and common decent courtesy.

If it wasn't a scam, you'd happily address that simple issue, by either sacking who's responsible or fixing and ironing out issues with your clientele.

Instead what you get is, being virtually brushed under the carpet because they can't be having any honesty coming from investors. It's obviously very bad for their business model.    

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=signatum (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=signatum)

https://i.imgur.com/4PjMXhZ.jpg

Completely forgotten for signatum?  ;D where is all treshtalkers? Where is NEW funny pics? :D

It this turned out to be a legit project?

Nope. Never was, never will be.

It's even less legit than that 'DeepOnion' nonsense which seems to attract the same sort of noobs.

No - it turned out a proven scam and even the shills have realized that now. Core Dev has disappeared after the webwallet was hacked.

LOL DeepOnion is epic  ::)

now u can continue  :)

for what Signatum is nearly dead, lot of problem with syncing found only max 3 nodes.

maybe a couple of month and chain is broken, stuck, dead.

40+ node active, stake works well.

So what about reboot as STRAKS?

Completly agree, network works fine, stake drips every day.

https://i.imgur.com/BdiTnzH.png

I think the last movements are just twitches before it dies completely.

A flag was created for lucifercipher https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=275

He was the core developer behind Signatum and it is believed that he was responsible for the webwallets hack.

He admitted manipulating burstcoin using a DDOS attack on the nodes in a video posted in this thread.

He is alleged to be responsible for the SARcoin hack of which he was a core dev.


There were others that behaved badly in the Signatum community but I believe this person to be a serial scammer and at risk of scamming in the future.

ahah after one year.. I had forgotten about signatum

Hey! What about original SIGNATUM (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/signatum/) (SIGT) on this forum?
One exchange (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/signatum/#markets) - YOBIT (https://yobit.net/en/trade/SIGT/BTC)?
No any alive thread, topic?
No deposit/withdrawals here?
Any addnode-list?
Wallet? Source code? Block-explorer?
I have some connections in my wallet, and I see someone is still staking!
There is over 900000 blocks in the mainnet, and this is working!

But... What I see? Magnatum, Signatum Classic, Signatum 2.0, swap to STRAKS, ALTCOM skunkhash, SONO...
SIGT has volumes $25M/day on cryptopia (https://cryptopia.co.nz/), before all that FUD.
And... Original post say about fake volumes on yobit... Hahhah!
OMG.  ::)

I think we can raise this network all, if anyone want to do this.