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IDEX Bounty

Aurora IDEX has reserved up to ~3% of our token sale (2,500,000 AURA/50 DVIP) for use in our bounty.

See Full Bounty Details Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539)

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I really like this comparison table IDEX vs. other exchanges

interesting project, bookmarking

wow this is marketplace more better from etherdelta, we can trade without filled out form registration
i am visit your website but all currency showing up N/A whether your website not yet launch ?
if you open bounty campaign please tell me  :D

Thanks! We've put a lot of work into this over the last 9 months  8) The reason everything says N/A is there is no trade data yet, once trades start happening it will fill in with info. The only bounty we are doing is a bug bounty, but you can get AUR tokens by placing limit orders that get filled.

Good. Another stock exchange will be more. As they say, more exchanges are good and different.

Thanks! Be sure to check out the Aurora site and whitepaper, this is much more than a high performance exchange.

Is this project similar to EtherDelta? What will be the differences of the project? Did he need some external artifice "MetaMask"?

There is glitch to save the private key after creating the wallet on exchange it doesn't allow to copy. I'm using Firefox but in Chrome it working smoothly you should fix that bug. UI is simple and very cool I like this combination.

Both IDEX and EtherDelta are trustless ethereum exchanges, beyond that they differ quite a bit. We provide real time trading and can process anywhere from 20 to 50 trades per second depending on the network, we then fire off the trades to be mined in the correct order. Check out the video up top to see a demo in action and look at the comparison table and the IDEX whitepaper to get a really thorough understanding of the differences.

We support Ledger, Metamask and your private key encrypted in the browser memory.

Thanks for that info! We'll get right on it. Most of our testing has been in chrome so that is where the best user experience is at the moment. Thanks for the kind words about the UI! We tried to keep with what people know and like.

Hi everyone, my name's Brian and I'll be the acting community manager for IDEX and Aurora. Feel free to contact me or AuroraDAO with questions regarding the project or to share your comments. We're in this project for the very long haul, so don't be afraid to reach out. In the meantime, please reference the information in this thread, our exchange at https://idex.market, and our Aurora website at https://auroradao.com .

Best regards,
Brian

Just chiming in to confirm that Brian is our community manager and we look forward to working together to answer all of your questions.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/auroracoin/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/auroracoin/)

seriously, do your fucking research and choose another name before launching a product.

 ::)

Hi and thanks for the comment. You're right that this currency symbol does exist, but as a team we felt the projects were different enough that we will not be competing. The daily volume of that coin is very low and dropping as well. We believe that over time token symbols will come in and out of usage in the crypto space.

Best Regards,
Brian

Really interesting project, I'll keep an eye out. I think I see the difference between this and Etherdelta, not really sure why this isn't getting more attention. Exchange looks fast but doesn't look like there's any volume? I guess that makes sense if you just launched. So if I buy some dvip tokens I get discounts on your fees but how exactly does that work?

I will watch over you. Etherdelta is not very convenient to exchange. If you do as written, it's fine.

that is so expensive ..why you are guys just create less than 10K dvip?

Thanks for the interest Hodl! We just launched a few hours ago, no traction yet, we've got to get the word out first  8)

If you hold DVIP all you have to do is let it sit in your wallet (not deposit it into the exchange contract) and the benefits work their magic. We have a nice benefits section on the UI that lets you customize the exact benefits you want. Along with getting IDEX benefits you will also be able to able to get AUR tokens from the membership at a rate of 50k AUR per full DVIP. AUR is the staking currency that will be used to provide economic incentives for staking the network when it is fully decentralized. AUR stakers will get paid Aurora fees proportional to their AUR stakings in return for helping run the network.

Thanks! If you have any feedback on how we can make our product better we'd love to hear it. We think it is about time that decentralized exchanges start competing with centralized ones.

Hi and solid question. There is only a total of 2,000 DVIP, but each DVIP (and fractions of) come with amazing benefits, and they are redeemable for large amounts of our utility token Aurora (AUR). DVIP is good for getting discounted (or even FREE) trades, and each whole DVIP comes with 50,000 AUR tokens, which will be used as a staking currency once we become fully decentralized. Holders of AUR will be able to stake their tokens to help run the network, and in return get paid from all revenue streams from Aurora.

While it may seem expensive, you can buy as small as .01 DVIP for $30 and get proportional benefits, including 500 AUR tokens.

Let me know if you have any further questions!

Best regards,
Brian

Hey everyone,

Interested but don't know where to start?

Check out our recent article on Medium (2-3 minute read) (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/idex-decentralized-exchange-89111ad0503c). It gives you a quick summary of our product and why we're different. Check it out and let us know your thoughts.

Hey everyone. We posted on reddit this morning and people seem pretty stoked about the project. Come join the discussion or read other people's thoughts here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/73t1s3/the_first_realtime_decentralized_exchange_is_now/

I found this exchange yesterday thanks to eLTC, one of them at least. Compared to EtherDelta, it's a lot more presentable and it works on mobile (!!!), sort of; everything is squished on mobile, worse than Bittrex, and it's almost unusable. I have a few questions though.

- Why is there no homepage for the exchange? When I go to https://idex.market I expect a frontpage of all the coins but I'm redirected to the trade page of something called DVIP. Maybe I've been spoilt by Bittrex.

- Can you explain the fees structure a little (lot) more clearly? I read the FAQ fees page but barely got it. It says 0.2% but then starts to go into a bunch of other stuff that makes it convoluted, and I know Eth and fees go hand-in-hand like mac and cheese.

Hey Coiner_, thanks for reaching out! "Compared to EtherDelta, it's a lot more presentable and it works on mobile (!!!)" - Glad you like it! We've put a lot of work into the UX. In terms of mobile we don't have a mobile version yet. After the crowdsale we plan to get an IOS and Android app.

"Why is there no homepage for the exchange?"

Right now we are a very small team and we are more concerned with features that will onboard more users such as a proper API and scaling. We plan to improve the UI but it is not a high priority right now given the other stuff we can improve.

"Can you explain the fees structure a little (lot) more clearly?"

Sure! 0.1% Maker and 0.2% taker trade fees. Taker also pays ethereum gas fees. Unlike etherdelta you don't need to have eth in your wallet to pay gas, we pay the fees for your trade and then take them in the currency you are receiving. For example if you are buying AURA with eth and are the taker, we'll take the 0.2% trade fee and the ethereum gas fees in the AURA you receive.

Hope this clarifies up your questions.

I see. Do you guys have a Discord or (please no!) slack/telegram? I also saw someone asking about a Github or something like that in the chatbox.


I understand. I mean, you're already miles ahead of EtherDelta.


It does but I want to make sure I'm absolutely getting it right before I start wow'ing. You technically pay all the fees by taking the required % from our received traded tokens so I don't have to worry about all those gwei/wei/eth/gas calculations. Is that correct?

Yup, we have both a Discord (https://discord.gg/SQVaFH) and a telegram (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA). We just switched to the telegram two days ago, I like discord better but a lot of people seem to like telegram.


Thanks! We want to get to the top and stay there, which will take a lot of innovation. Aurora is much bigger than IDEX, the goal is to make a fully decentralized banking platform with its own price-stable cryptocurrency, but we have focused this ANN thread on IDEX because everyone understands the need for exchanges. There have been a lot of ethereum exchanges to ICO recently but we think our approach is the best, and we built a working product all without getting 10s of millions of dollars in ICO funding. We are the only next generation DEX on the market and we plan to be the biggest player  8)


Hahahahaha, love the enthusiasm! Yes that is correct, we pay the gas fees on each trade and then add that cost onto the taker's trade fees. From our research it seems that needing eth for gas confuses a lot of people on etherdelta and leads to a poor user experience. By doing it this way no one ever has to think about whether or not they need to top up their ether holdings to pay for transactions.

reserved - nice to see another new ex

Thanks Lawlez! Make sure to try IDEX out as we have already launched on the mainnet  :)

Unlike all the other DEX token sale projects we actually delivered a product that functions extremely well before even starting our ANN thread.

New post on the ethereum subreddit with a short blog about how IDEX works! Great questions in the comments, hop on over to learn more  8)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/759jp6/how_idex_works_oneoff_state_hop_with_onchain/

The article is good but I'll have to admit some parts went above my head. This article by Ethfinex (http://This article by Ethfinex) kept on ringing in my head as I read it; Ethfinex is another (upcoming) DEX that has chosen to adopt a decentralized-centralized hybrid model to deal with issues. The most pertinent part of the article I'm concerned with is this:

http://image.ibb.co/dOoq3w/image.png

How does IDEX compare? You obviously don't have Bitfinex's volume yet but I'm just curious especially since I've heard stories about EtherDelta lagging 24 hours behind.


I've wowed. Impressive.


Yes it does, it absolutely does.

That is a great question and one we think about a lot. Right now IDEX alone can handle about 20 to 50 trades per second depending on a few key variables, which means we can handle anywhere from 2 to 4 times the amount of transactions per second that Ethereum can. We have put zero work into scaling yet and we already can bring more business to ethereum than it can handle, and we are just one of hundreds of dapps that is using ethereum for settlement of funds. While our approach lets our users keep trading like the backlog is not there, every trade still needs to settle on the blockchain before it is complete.

We are extremely interested in sidechains (plasma, Dfinity, CASPER, other options?) both for scaling and also with getting this fully decentralized. If we have our own ethereum clone for processing transactions we can grow for about another year at least until we start running into issues. From there we can scale in parallel, adding new blockchains as sidechains and have each one handle different trading pairs. If we have our own network it is also a lot easier to turn the rest of this into a protocol and fully decentralize the orderbook and transaction arbiter.

We are currently exploring how we can turn this sidechain approach into a protocol that will let high performance exchanges each have their own sidechain to ethereum while sharing liquidity with each other. What we imagine is that the end product will end up being a protocol that allows many high performance sidechain based exchanges to share an orderbook and once Ethereum scales we'll integrate liquidity from the sidechain protocol with the on chain IDEX and have them share liquidity in one pool. That way users who want full security can choose to stay on chain and keep the gas costs, and those who want no gas costs (and complete privacy via zk snarks) can choose the "blackbox" sidechain option.

That's good to hear. When you start showing up as a market on CMC volume on the DEX should increase so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I have another question regarding this:

http://image.ibb.co/e86MBG/image.png

That minimum order limit is huge compared to, for example, Bittrex's (~$0.15):

http://image.ibb.co/m6fjyw/image.png

... and even the taker minimum order of IDEX. I imagine this might be a non-issue for most traders but I had this issue pointed out to me by someone I told about the exchange. Is there a chance it could be reduced to be closer to even the taker minimum order? I think it might be a barrier for people just hearing about IDEX.

Great question! We hate to have it this way but we have no choice but to have it until Ethereum scales and gas prices drop dramatically. On our sidechain version we won't have these minimums.

The issue is that on IDEX we have trade matching (unlike etherdelta, 0x relayers and others) which means that you are automatically matched with the best order and cannot route your trades around smaller orders you don't want to match with. The taker pays the gas fees and without a minimum order size it would be possible for people to place tiny orders that essentially spam the orderbook and make it extremely expensive to trade on IDEX. For example no one is going to want to pay $0.40 in gas fees on a $5 dollar order, that is essentially a 12.5% fee, which is absolutely insane. By having a $100 minimum we keep fees lower for takers who have no choice but to match the best priced order.

Gas fees on Ethereum are already very high and it will probably get worse over the next year. With our design of matching in real time and settling with a delay we can use a lower gas price than you would use on etherdelta, but that only helps to an extent as many dapps are coming online and transactions will be competing to be picked up in a reasonable time frame. Right now it is about 40 cents a trade, we hope to lower the gas price once this hardfork comes and lowers the congestion, but gas prices will always be a factor. If you are a taker and buy an order worth $100 USD you will have about a 0.6% fee. 0.4% comes from the gas fees and 0.2% from the IDEX fees. Most people are happy to pay higher fees given that their funds are guaranteed safe from hacking and inside jobs, but it is our job as designers of the exchange to make sure our customers are not subject to very high fees.

There are tradeoffs when making a DEX instead of a centralized exchange. We're trying to keep the UX of centralized exchanges, which we have done with trade speed, but until Ethereum scales (and gas prices drop dramatically), or we have our side chain, gas prices are going to have an impact in the design and UX of IDEX.

We have more and more decentralized exchanges I also strongly believe future belongs to these changers. I need to catch up with all the previous information after that will try to perform some small transactions to check how fast it works. It should be fast than other existed similar concept based exchanges in order to see success.

Thanks! It is extremely fast, no other Ethereum DEX has come anywhere close to this speed. We are the only group that has an exchange with this approach live, we built it already and you can use it now. Only one other group, Leverj, is attempting to build an exchange like this but they are only in the whitepaper stage and are asking for way too much money in their crowdsale. They also have no plans on scaling, which is silly to me as Ethereum is more than 4 years away from scaling in any amount that will allow for high performance DEX's to compete with centralized ones. 

When testing make sure you know that the minimum maker order is $100 and minimum taker is $10. Please see the comments above to understand why we have designed it that way.

On a different note, stay tuned as our bounty thread is coming out in a few hours.

Hi everyone! We're excited to announce the launch of our bounty where we're giving away 50 DVIP/2,500,000 AURA. Information has been added to the ANN, but the full details are in a separate thread.

Full Bounty Details (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2263637)
Bounty start: Now
Bounty end: 1 week after token sale start or 24 hours after all tokens have been sold, whichever comes first

Aurora IDEX has reserved up to ~3% of our token sale (2,500,000 AURA/50 DVIP) for use in our bounty. We will be offering the following campaigns:

• Email list signup campaign (10%)
  
• Bitcointalk signature campaign (30%)
  
• Media campaign (40%)
  
• Discretionary campaign (20%)
  

Feel free to reach out in either thread if you have any questions. Thanks!

Thanks to kojektea for generating this youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ6j0UPPh1o) outlining the Aurora project!

This user earned DVIP for his submission-- if you're interested in helping out please check out our bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2263637.0)!

Someone just wrote a great getting started guide for getting up to speed and trading on IDEX!

How to Trade At Idex The Ethereum Token Marketplace (https://medium.com/altcoinsweekly/how-to-trade-at-idex-the-ethereum-token-marketplace-93979766701e)

You can also view it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/76nyia/how_to_trade_at_idex_the_ethereum_token/

This user earned our highest tier for media submissions- if you're interested in helping out and getting rewards check out our bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2263637.0)!

Your bounty ad was published for free.
If someone ask for tokens than ban him.

https://newsker.com/2017/10/13/idex-decentralized-exchange-bounty-campaign-ico-bounty/

Hey Route69, thank you for your publication. I've took over the bounty campaign for IDEX and will be managing the campaign from now on.

We have a new thread with updates rules, please check: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539.msg23127348#msg23127348

After hearing all the news about Bittrex locking accounts and instabanning people that complained on their slack I logged into my account and was met with this:

http://image.ibb.co/hK1z36/image.png

Now I really, really wish IDEX and others all the luck it can get. Nothing like first-hand experience to make you see why some people are obsessed with DEXes taking over. I get that they're following KYC or whatever but I'm not applying at Freelancer or SALT HQ.


What happened to the other guy? What about the other, still live thread? And why is there "BOUNTY" in the title of this thread?

HEY GUYS! DON'T FORGET TO JOIN OUR GROWING COMMUNITY ON TELEGRAM. YOU CAN EVEN EARN SOME AURA TOKENS!

JOIN THROUGH: https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA

Application Form: https://goo.gl/iM8PD1
Spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/QXSWVc

Really this is great project. I am very interesting to join and support this project untill end. Good luck  :)

I think this is great, the new exchanger  ;D

Aurora has two tokens: the network utility token (AURA) and the membership token (DVIP).

What's different price AURA and DVIP ?

I see, that you have working exchange already. Why you need money? For adversiting? Or what? Can you explaine?

Thanks for asking! We have 2 tokens but are only selling one, which is DVIP. DVIP is a crypto membership that gets free trades on IDEX until 2020 and each full DVIP also comes with 50,000 FREE AURA tokens. AURA is a utility token that will be used to stake the Aurora network once we are fully decentralized. Aurora users crypteconomics to align incentives to secure the integrity of the network. In return for providing the security through staking AURA users will get IDEX fees, Boreal banking fees and fees from any other activities that Aurora partakes in.

Each full DVIP costs $3,000 but you can buy less than a full one. We are not selling AURA directly and don't know what price the market will value it.

More information about DVIP can be found on our memberships page (https://auroradao.com/membership-sale/). We will be releasing more detailed information about AURA tokens tomorrow, stay tuned.

Great question! The current IDEX (https://idex.market/) is just an MVP (minimum viable product), meaning that it is the most basic product we could bring to market. Next up we are going to launch our price-stable cryptocurrency, the Boreal, and also fully decentralize the current IDEX approach. After that we are going to turn it into a protocol for sidechain exchanges called Snowglobe (We are currently updating the IDEX and Aurora whitepapers to go over Snowglobe). Once Snowglobe is complete we are going to offer cryptobanking in our stablecoin, the Boreal. From there we plan to add in distributed computing to run the AI banker that deals with keeping Boreals stable.

Just because we have built something awesome doesn't mean we're not going to add to it and make it a lot more awesome  8). We believe the fact that we already made the best DEX on the market shows that we are a capable team that will be able to achieve the full IDEX and Aurora vision.

To learn more about the expansions after IDEX please see the Aurora website (https://auroradao.com/). We are currently updating both the IDEX and Aurora whitepapers to give more insight into Snowglobe, should be up in a few hours.

when can IDex launch exchanger
i think if every coin use ETH platform can added youre exchanger and early promote, i think idex can good exchanger and above etherdelta

how much minimum or softcapt idex token

IDEX is already live (https://idex.market). You can trade now. Unlike pretty much every other project we built our mvp FIRST to show you all that we are a capable team.

There is no minimum or softcap. We are selling 1600 DVIP (https://auroradao.com/membership-sale/) for a total of $4,800,000 USD. Once they are gone they are gone.

So, you have 1600 DVIP for tokens sale with price 3000$ for each, = hard cap 4.8 millions usd? And Aurora tokens for free. But what with Boreal tokens?

Yes, that is correct. We have a hard cap of $4.8 million USD and the AURA tokens come for free with the DVIP membership that users buy.

Boreals are a price-stable cryptocurrency. To get the full picture I highly suggest you read the Aurora whitepaper (https://auroradao.com/whitepaper). Boreals will expanded in stages. At first, traders on IDEX will be able to buy them from us for $1 each and use them to pay trade fees on IDEX at a 5% discount. This discount gives Boreals a place to be used early on and creates incentives for large traders to buy the Boreals to pay for their trade fees. All ether that is used to buy Boreals from us will go into reserves to back the boreals, like a traditional bank. Once IDEX is fully decentralized we will expand Borearls into banking loans. Users who want to take out loans will apply for one and Boreals will be loaned to the users. The user must then pay back the Boreals plus interest on the loans. This creates a demand for Boreals that will help ensure that they stay at the target price. Any time Boreals drop below their target price, both IDEX traders and users who have Boreal loans will be incentivized to buy them up, pushing the price back up to the target.

In summary Boreals are a price-stable cryptocurrency that is modeled after banking principles. They are backed by a combination of ether reserves, debt from loans that must be repaid and are accepted at target value at many retailers starting with IDEX. There are many more details to keeping the Boreal price stable, but I defer you to the Aurora whitepaper (https://auroradao.com/whitepaper) to learn more.

Ok, thank you. I understand this. But why everything is so complicated? Why we need this Aurora tokens, if they useless? We cant sell this tokens on your (and other) exhanges?

AURA tokens are not useless. When Snowglobe is out AURA tokens will be used to stake the network (via proof of stake mining) and get trade fees from IDEX and fees from the Boreal banking. If anything AURA has the best long term potential.

DVIP = Membership with free trades on IDEX until 2020
AURA = Staking token of Snowglobe/Aurora network, in return for staking you get IDEX trade fees and fees from Boreal banking
Boreal = Price-stable cryptocurrency that is backed by a combination of ether reserves, debt from loans and acceptance at retailers (such as IDEX) at target value regardless of the market price. For example if Boreals were trading at 80 cents you could buy them up and get $1.05 worth of trade fees paid for on IDEX.

IDEX will trade DVIP, AURA and Boreals. Boreals will be a base currency option like USD is for ETH/USD and BTC/USD, except it will be ETH/BRL

This project is really exciting yet so complicated at first glance. I need to check out more.

Thanks! We're improving the Aurora site now to make everything a lot easier to follow. I do agree it is complicated (and also really exciting!), we haven't done the best job presenting everything.

Hope to have the site improvements up by mid next week.

We now have over 250 members in our telegram channel (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA)!

Come on in, chat with the team, and learn more about the project. Plus you can earn rewards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539)

Its exchange like EtherDelta? We must enter private key here or no?

Yes, the exchange operates much like Etherdelta except it's considerably faster and feels like a typical exchange. You unlock your wallet, deposit to IDEX's smart contract, trade, then withdraw whenever you like, just like Etherdelta. That being said, trades on IDEX are nearly instant, cancels are free and instant, and you can place market orders, plus many other features. Also the orderbook updates instantly and is always accurate. Let me know if you need any help getting started!

So i cant trading without entering private key?  ???

I am kind of impressed with how this dex looks.
Still have to make a trade on it but it looks so much smoother than delta.

Hi. We're an decentralized exchange similar to Etherdelta, that is, you unlock your wallet and deposit funds into our smart contract, trade, then withdraw whenever you want. You can unlock your wallet with your private key, keystore, metamask, or ledger wallet. We're new and understand we need to gain the trust of the community over time, however, we're very transparent and a lot of information can be found in our smart contract, on our website, and in our whitepaper.

Thanks! We've spent a lot of time polishing the experience and performance, and we're just getting started  :) After you make a trade feel free to come back and let us know how it went. You can trade with yourself if you just want the experience, and you'll even earn rewards (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/idex-aurora-decentralized-exchange-rewards-4e092c77affc).

Found this project today, and this solves most of the problem we are facing with etherdelta.I have been using etherdelta for some time and was not much happy with the slow transactions to complete each buy/sell.

During complex crowdsale for example "BAT", when there are numerous transactions happening to join some crowdsale, how does the exchange tackle the issues when all/most of the transactions are in pending status for a long time?

New blog post today on how Aurora (parent company of IDEX) is much bigger than just a DEX! Come learn about how we're tackling the problem of a price-stable cryptocurrency and how we'll use IDEX as the base for it all  8)

https://medium.com/aurora-dao/aurora-idex-stablecoin-free-banking-d8da232a1978

Awesome! IDEX definitely solves those problems you are having, volume is low now but once we get some more liquidity things should really pick up fast!


Great question!

Short answer: You will never know about the backlog unless you are trying to withdraw. If you are trying to withdraw you have to wait for all transactions to settle first.

Long answer: IDEX consists of 2 databases, one off chain that updates in real time with your cryptographically signed transactions and the smart contract which is the source of truth of who owns what. When you make a trade we first check that your trade info will not fail, and if the trade will go through fine we mark the trade as complete on our database and update the UI. On the backend the trade is then sent to ethereum to be mined. This allows us to match trades in real time and then settle them a few minutes later, giving the UX of a centralized exchange while keeping the security of a decentralized exchange. This means that you can make trades again and again before they mine, leading to a much better UX during a tx backlog. For example if an ICO has backlogged ethereum you can keep trading normally like the backlog doesn't exist and once it clears up all of your trades will be mined. The only time this is not great is if you are trying to withdraw as you will have to have all of your trades mine fist.

We now have over 300 members in our telegram channel (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA)!

Come signup and talk about about the project with the team. Remember you can even earn rewards for joining our channel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539)

When can I exchange the DVIP from the presale for coins?

Does the team have LinkedIn accounts?

Hey self1sch! Approximately 2 weeks after the beginning of our sale users will be able to turn their DVIP into AURA and the new membership token. Check back about a week after the sale starts and there is no way you'll miss the announcement on how to switch them out.

Thanks for your early support, really means a lot!

Yup, if you click on our names here (https://auroradao.com/about/) it will take you to the linkedin for each member. We are also very easy to find on google if you search our names.

Ok thank you :)

good information sir. so once ico starts we can change the DVIP to AURA and new membership token. I think it helps other participants. success for Aurora IDEX. thank you

Yup, exactly. We had DVIP from before when we were operating as Decentralized Capital and when we made the switch to Aurora we didn't want to screw the people who had bought DVIP. So we kept DVIP as the IDEX membership and added the AURA benefits to them. When you claim your AURA from DVIP we need to make sure you can't get more AURA, so that is why you'll get a new membership too.

I liked the last few lines you mentioned and this solves most of the problem with decentralized exchanges.I hope you achieve the max target for your project.

Yes, this one, etherdealta is slow and by the time you fill up some good deal, some have already completed the contract for it. Any exchange other than etherdealta is good for me.

total supply only 2000 tokens?? it's really a little amount. limited supply can make this token has a high value because of the scarcity.

how much fee at trade idex? i see total supply 1.000.000.000 aurora, but why for bounty just 2000 aurora?

We have 2 tokens but are only selling DVIP. DVIP is a membership that gets free trades on IDEX until 2020 and AURA is the utility token of the system that works once it is fully decentralized. Each DVIP also comes with 50,000 AURA per full DVIP. DVIP works now and AURA will be used for staking once we are fully decentralized. When you can stake AURA you will get rewarded fees from IDEX and Boreal banking (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/aurora-idex-stablecoin-free-banking-d8da232a1978) in return for securing the network.

DVIP = Membership with free trades on IDEX until 2020 and also comes with 50,000 AURA. 2,000 DVIP exist total.

AURA = Staking token of Snowglobe/Aurora network, in return for staking you get IDEX trade fees and fees from Boreal banking. Total supply of AURA is 1,000,000,000. 10% of those AURA are for DVIP holders, 40% is for hacking our growth through rewards programs and 50% is being kept by Aurora with the exact distribution detailed in the ANN thread.


The only way to get AURA is to buy DVIP or to trade on IDEX and get paid rewards in AURA. (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/idex-aurora-decentralized-exchange-rewards-4e092c77affc)

Trade fees are 0.1% maker and 0.2% taker. Taker also pays the ethereum gas fees on trades which right now is about 4 cents per trade.


Bounty and sale are in DVIP, which is a membership that comes with 50,000 AURA per DVIP.

We have 2 tokens but are only selling DVIP. DVIP is a membership that gets free trades on IDEX until 2020 and AURA is the utility token of the system that works once it is fully decentralized. Each DVIP also comes with 50,000 AURA per full DVIP. DVIP works now and AURA will be used for staking once we are fully decentralized. When you can stake AURA you will get rewarded fees from IDEX and Boreal banking (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/aurora-idex-stablecoin-free-banking-d8da232a1978) in return for securing the network.

DVIP = Membership with free trades on IDEX until 2020 and also comes with 50,000 AURA. 2,000 DVIP exist total.

AURA = Staking token of Snowglobe/Aurora network, in return for staking you get IDEX trade fees and fees from Boreal banking. Total supply of AURA is 1,000,000,000. 10% of those AURA are for DVIP holders, 40% is for hacking our growth through rewards programs and 50% is being kept by Aurora with the exact distribution detailed in the ANN thread.


The only way to get AURA is to buy DVIP or to trade on IDEX and get paid rewards in AURA. (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/idex-aurora-decentralized-exchange-rewards-4e092c77affc)

Thanks! We're growing every day getting more users and getting the word out. Aurora/IDEX is a really big project and we've got a lot of marketing to do.  8)

This is a project I'm closely watching. I have traded Mysterium there recently and I can easily tell it is 100x better usage wise than ED's old as fuck system.

You guys just need some volume and I think it will happen with a couple of new projects. ;)

Thanks for trying us out! We have many partnerships in the works to bring more volume to the exchange. We support most new ICO tokens as soon as they're released, and agree that getting the bulk of the volume for a few new projects would bring a lot of exposure.

We're also spending a great deal of effort on writing articles (https://medium.com/aurora-dao), getting reviewed by top news outlets, and spreading the word on token lists, among many other initiatives.

I think it's an active working stock exchange. I think it will succeed. Finally, a project to save us from EtherDelta was released. God bless your hands in advance. Hopefully you will get a good investment! Good luck.

Yup! IDEX is already live! You can start using it NOW!


 8) 8) 8) IDEX is here to save the day! No more wasted gas on trades that were bought by someone else, no more waiting forever for your trade to mine....

I read your information, you only on the line Ethernet series of token it? As a trading platform, there must be the ability to summon the crowd, should increase the community's heat

yes I also agree you can explain in detail about this proyex ,,

Sure thing! IDEX is very similar to etherdelta but the main difference is instead of the taker signing the transaction and submitting it to ethereum to mine, the taker signs the transaction and gives it to us. We then sign that signed transaction and submit it to ethereum. Our contract is designed such that once you deposit funds you have to sign each tx you want to make and then we sign that signed tx and broadcast it. This allows us to update balances in real time while the balance in the smart contract lags behind.

IDEX consists of 2 databases, one off chain that updates in real time with your cryptographically signed transactions, and the smart contract - which is the source of truth of who owns what. When you make a trade we first check that your trade info will not fail, and if the trade will go through fine we mark the trade as complete on our database and update the UI. On the backend the trade is then sent to ethereum to be mined. This allows us to match trades in real time and then settle them a few minutes later, giving the UX of a centralized exchange while keeping the security of a decentralized exchange. This means that you can make trades again and again before they mine, leading to a much better UX during a tx backlog. For example if an ICO has backlogged ethereum you can keep trading normally like the backlog doesn't exist and once it clears up all of your trades will be mined. The only time this is not great is if you are trying to withdraw as you will have to have all of your trades mine fist.

We now have over 420 members in our telegram channel (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA)! We had 300 less than 3 days ago :)

Signup and chat with the team about this exciting and unique banking project. Remember you can even earn rewards for joining our channel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539)

Great questions!


IDEX acts as an arbiter, making sure that customers orders are broadcast in the correct order. In the medium term this will be fully decentralized and made into a protocol.


We cannot do anything without you first signing the order. The "corruption" this allows us to do doesn't make any sense for us do. For example we could not broadcast your order but there is no benefit for us to do that. Also because everything is on the blockchain if we were to do any funny business it would be incredibly easy to spot, resulting in us losing our customer base. We are not able to steal from you or rip you off and neither is a hacker.


Same as etherdelta, connect your account and you are good to go. We support private keys (best UX, very fast!), MetaMask and Ledger. MetaMask and Ledger work great but are slow because you have to approve the orders on both devices whereas the private key executes right away.

won't this end up like etherdelta that's too  hard to  even navigate, registering there is a pain too.  If this is instant ETH  DEX then,  are they going to add automatically ETH tokens even those who just did airdrops and ERC tokens with no value yet?

I watched the video presentation. I did not see the graphs. Do they actually exist? Did not see how you can set the foot. Even on obsolete Poloniex this information is.

Hello. IDEX doesn't require any registration-- all you need to do is unlock your wallet, which can take seconds. It's just as fast as myetherwallet is at unlocking wallets. Regarding tokens, we have a token submit form and review every token before adding them to the exchange, it's not automatic. We agree, there are a lot of tokens from bad projects that we do not add.

Yes, we have a price chart and a depth chart for each market. We currently use TradingView but are getting custom charting software made for us. Please visit https://idex.market and you will see both charts.

We now have over 500 members in our telegram channel (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA)!

Come join the channel and talk about about the project with the team. Remember you can even earn rewards for joining (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539).

Is the ico over?

Hey Danniel, the token sale has not started yet. It starts December 4th and lasts through January 4th. What Brian was talking about above is that the first AURA rewards period has ended. We pay IDEX (https://idex.market) traders who place limit orders that get filled and that first period just ended. You can learn more about the AURA rewards program here (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/idex-aurora-decentralized-exchange-rewards-4e092c77affc).

I'm surprised to see that this project make an ICO. They already have working dex.
Exchange looks really promising. I hope it will be better than Etherdelta.

Dev, where is your team?

You already have the team information on the first page of this post.The team and the roles are clearly defined over there.Try to check the first page of any new project before asking any such questions.

what will happen if soft cap is not reached?

IDEX is just the first small piece of the much larger Aurora (https://auroradao.com/) product offering. Aurora is a fully decentralized financial platform complete with a high performance asset exchange (IDEX), a high performance exchange protocol (Snowglobe (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/idex-aurora-decentralized-exchange-rewards-4e092c77affc), which IDEX will operate on top of) and decentralized banking in our own price-stable cryptocurrency called the boreal (https://medium.com/aurora-dao/aurora-idex-stablecoin-free-banking-d8da232a1978). To really understand what we are building and why we are raising funds I highly suggest you read the Aurora whitepaper (https://auroradao.com/whitepaper).

We were able to build IDEX without a big funding round, but to achieve the true Aurora vision we need to expand our team greatly. We believe that the fact that we built IDEX, the most advanced DEX by miles compared to our competitors, without first having an ICO shows that we are a technical team who is capable of achieving great things with limited funding. By building IDEX before raising funds we have showed that we get the most out of our funding and making sure nothing is wasted, an extremely useful skill for founders of a business.

And we're much much better than Etherdelta, just need liquidity  8)

We do not have a soft cap since IDEX is already live and we are growing in users every day. The sale lasts for 1 month and any unsold DVIP will be destroyed. The AURA attached to those destroyed DVIP will be added to the 40% of AURA tokens used for growth hacking.

Hello, as I research more about IDEX, how is IDEX different and better from etherdelta?

Idex member, so the 20% for team members is reserve for how long? 1 year/2years vesting periods?

Off the top of my head, the most obvious one is the UI/UX. EtherDelta is abominably bad as far as UI/UX goes. Another would be not needing to have Eth in order to trade since they're taking the equivalent gas fee from what you're trading. There's also the fact that it's faster because of their hybrid design. The devs are also very active in the telegram (which you should join if you haven't already) which is also a nice bonus.

Compared to other ICO, which dont even have alpha products, raising an ICO with a functional platform showed that the team is capable and help increase investor confidence.

Etherdelta might not have all that fast pace, efficiency, but its highly secured. So how is IDEX security compared to etherdelta? Thanks again

Thanks for the interest! All IDEX team members are under a 4 year vesting period.

IDEX has the same security from hackings as etherdelta. It is not possible for us or hackers to steal your funds, that is the beauty of smart contract decentralized exchanges.

Because our architecture is a hybrid approach it is possible for us to front run orders, like on all centralized exchanges.  It makes no sense for us to do that because any user would be able to analyze the trades on the blockchain and we'd lose our customer base for front running our customers. Centralized exchanges can get away with front running because you have no proof, on IDEX all the proof would be in the ethereum blockchain.

We have the same security of EtherDelta but the UX of a centralized exchange. Our hybrid architecture ensures that we act honestly as the transparency into our systems would cause us to lose our customers if we tried any funny business. The most important thing to know is that neither us nor hackers can steal your funds.

yes IDEX is more secure with strong security that ensures hackers can not break your money, I really like this security ,,

i have also finished the romanian ann/ico/bounty translation. it is up and can be consulted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2365476.0

IDEX sale starts in 27 days, membership holders get free trades on IDEX.
https://auroradao.com/

IDEX sale info:
Each DVIP is priced at $3,000.
Sale starts: Monday December 4th, 2017 at 4PM UTC
Sale ends: Thursday January 4th, 2018 at 4pm UTC
Each full DVIP entitles the holder to 50,000 free Aurora tokens (AURA). This is the only public distribution channel for AURA tokens outside of the market making rewards program.

We now have over 700 members in our telegram channel (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA)!

Signup and chat with the team about IDEX and it's place in this much larger overall banking project. Remember you can earn rewards for joining our channel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2279539)

what happens to unsold tokens?

Great question! We'll add this answer to our ANN thread. All unsold DVIP will be destroyed. The AURA attached to them will be added to the 40% set aside for growth hacking so we can further guarantee long term success of the project.

Hello everyone!

IDEX is growing very well! We had our biggest trade volume yesterday, over $250,000 USD worth of trades, and the highest number of users yet! We're very excited about how many people are finding the platform and enjoying it. Overall response has been great!

We just released much more detailed guides (https://www.reddit.com/r/auroradao/comments/7c3j6z/idex_user_guides_how_to_trade/) that cover all aspects of using IDEX. Be sure to check them out  8)

I was impressed when knew about this project! It seems to be very successful and wish you good luck!

Thanks a lot! We love hearing all the great feedback from our users, it is very motivating.

Dear IDEX-Team,

some questions:

• Are you allowing SEPA-deposit/withdrawal on a account?
  
• How are the secure-mesurements ?
• Do you have 2 factor checks, e.g like Authenticator?
• Where does IDEX have it´s enterpise, company-adress, lawyer etc.

That´s quite important, in case of meceneas and art investors....
And I think you have a great potential.

All the best and good luck!

NGWM

p.s. Most art-investors are older people, so it whould be great if you could have security measurements like BitStamp or so, because the older generation has problems with digital wallets

IDEX is a decentralized exchange, we have no interest in getting into fiat currencies and the compliance that comes with them.

All funds are stored in an ethereum smart contract and can only be traded/withdrawn with approval from the user's private key. We cannot move your funds without your cryptographic permission.

That is not possible on a decentralized exchange as users approve/execute all actions by signing with their private key. Even if we tried to do something like that there is nothing on ethereum that says don't mine a TX if it hasn't been approved on another authentication method.

We are a Panama corporation.

Thanks!

It was nice that have a welcome message that can relate on us if you entered IDEX exchanger site.
Hope it have also in the other exchanger site.

How is going this project? Will you be faithful to the roadmap?

IDEX (https://idex.market) is growing very well! Have you tried it out yet? We have been live for 9 weeks now, getting more users all the time. On average we do about $70,000 USD worth of trades a day, nothing crazy but we're growing!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


I believe so. Right now our main focus is on cleaning up the rough edges around IDEX (https://idex.market) and once we have that done we will start working on the next phase. So far everything is on track. Unlike most ICOs we built and launched our base product before even starting the ANN thread.

Be sure to give IDEX (https://idex.market) a try!

Joined. Hope this exchange can be better than etherdelta. Will pay close attention for this ico. Hope everything go well, because it looks like this project is really planned very well ...

Thanks for joining! IDEX provides a much better UX than etherdelta and IDEX is live now! You can try for yourself  8)


It is a very big project to achieve the full vision but we can pull it off. The fact that we built the most advanced DEX without some big ICO first should show that we are capable of managing development effort and funds to achieve our vision!

not bad for a start but i'm expecting better volume after ico. ui/ux looks great, works very fast, better than etherdelta already. the only missing thing is volume. this exchange needs much much more volume for this quality. i hope people notice this exchange and start using it. i suggest to all of my friends.

Project is going very strong! We've released IDEX which is growing rapidly and we're ready to move on the next components of the project after our token sale. We've been at this for over a year and aren't going anywhere. As you can see we're very responsive to the community and if you join our Telegram you can chat with the team in real time. If you have any questions please reach out to us there.

Thanks for the support! And yes, we totally understand the lack of liquidity and will be working on it full steam. Expect big changes in abut a week :)

Of course, IDEX is very fast, i like the feature in it that can query a list of token you have in your eth wallet and how many on order, and many other features you'll love

what happens to unsold tokens? do they get burnt?

Guys, what do you think about the ICO? do you think the minimum cap will be reached?

Great question! Unsold DVIP will be burned and the AURA attached to them will go back to the growth hacking reserves for initiatives such as the market making rewards program. (https://medium.com/p/idex-aurora-decentralized-exchange-rewards-4e092c77affc)

Membership token (DVIP) is a crypto membership that comes with free trading on IDEX until 2020 and double AURA rewards (from the rewards program) for life after the free trades runs out. AURA is our utility token that will be used for POS staking our sidechain once IDEX moves from ethereum mainnet to an ethereum sidechain for scaling. AURA token holders will stake our chain and get paid in IDEX trade fees for providing the security to the network. As Aurora expands into decentralized banking the revenue from that venture will also flow back to AURA stakers for running the network.

Each DVIP also comes with 50,000 AURA tokens. So for $3,000 you get free trades on IDEX for 2 years, double AURA rewards for life after that and 50,000 AURA tokens. DVIP works now and AURA will be used for staking as soon as we have our sidechain live. Getting the sidechain live is our main focus after we do a few more minor things to stable out IDEX.



We do not have a minimum cap. The base version of IDEX is already live and working now (https://idex.market), we're getting very good growth on the exchange. Worst case if we don't raise much we'll continue operating and expanding the product, using IDEX revenue to keep building out the Aurora vision.

IDEX (https://idex.market) has just hit over 10,000 transactions on our smart contract (https://etherscan.io/address/0x2a0c0dbecc7e4d658f48e01e3fa353f44050c208)! Usage and liquidity is growing daily, so if you haven't given us a look yet now's a great time.

Additionally, we now have over 1000 members in our telegram channel (https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA)!

Remember, our token sale is fast approaching (December 4th at 4PM UTC), and this will be your ONLY chance to purchase DVIP and AURA tokens.

Good project I like your ideas! Good luck!  :D  I plan to take part in the company's bounty and think I will buy it at ICO. ;)

When crowdsale will start? And why you need ICO, if you have working exchange already?

Even if it was new but the transaction was fast and growing patiently.
And the idea for the team was impressive also i think im going to trade some of my tokens on there if have time the toke have a high volume.

Thanks! We put a lot of work into the user experience of IDEX and are very proud of it. Would love to have your support on the bounty!



Crowdsale starts December 4th at 4pm UTC. IDEX is the minimum viable product of a much larger vision, we need funds to build out the whole Aurora ecosystem. The fact that we built the best Ethereum DEX before starting our sale should show that we are a very ambitious team who has the skillset needed to follow through with what we set out to do. Below is my answer when another users asked this :)

I think it's pretty nice. If you haven't tried it, definitely try.

I cant stop myself to join when i see a decentralized exchange project. I follow most of them. Waves, oax etc. And now i will start to follow IDEX project as well.   :)

Excellent! Be sure to try it out, the UX is great!

Great project. I recorded him on video review. Believe in the success of the project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXBZWB5eQS4

I joined this project's signature campaign. I believe this types of projects. Exchange projects everytime be succesfull.

Like waves, kyber, bitshares etc. wish good luck for all.

I'm sure this project will be successful and grow in the future, I've joined, let's join my friends. thank you

I see a huge potential in this project. There is a lot of people who want to trade on etherdelta but slow execution time and other limitations are keeping them off. That is why Idex with all features will be the best-decentralized exchange as for now.

Awesome! Video looks great, nice work!  8)



Great! We're excited to have you on board



Excellent! Be sure to tell all your friends about us!



Thanks! Even with the other exchanges coming to market we believe our design is superior. For example it is not possible to make an exchange this advanced on top of the 0x protocol. Time will show that we have a great design  ;D

I will give my friend information for this project, I also use this signature package, thanks

i want to know when IDEX (exchange Platform) start to open to world
after Aurora token sale end January 4th

Hi zakirazak. No need to wait until after the token sale, IDEX is live NOW. You can trade hundreds of ethereum tokens on https://idex.market .

Anyone can help me here please?
I have sent token from my MEW to IDEX.MARKET, when my token shown on my ballance,
and then I click deposit button, however I didn't see my token anymore.,its gone.

but I try to check it on etherscan by clicking my wallet address in up right button, my token still there.
how to see my ballance again on IDEX.MARKET??

thaks

Hello. Please go to "Balances --> Full Balances" in the top navigation then click the "Query" button next to your token. This will show your wallet balance. If you have deposited to IDEX, please check your "Balances --> Balance History" to make sure the token transfer has completed. Please join our telegram if you are still having trouble. https://t.me/joinchat/FT1IVA8AWHiyUkU3adehxA

I am very curious about this ICO.
I have great expectations and it will definitely be very profitable.

last 5 day 14 hours ...  ;D ;D

The IDEX platform has several features that can solve those who often complain about IDEX issues, like other decentralized exchanges, allowing users to trade and conduct transactions while maintaining their own private key

Hello, and your exchange will accept tokens on the platform Waves?  How much does it cost to add a token to your stock exchange?

Idex is decentralised like ether delta. I dont think there is token fee for listing on idex. Especially idex now still searching and grabing market. If the platform  faster the ether delta this platform will killed etherdelta. I also like the developer because they are not greedy like other project. They only set $5 million dollar for this project which is very good for investor because there are a lot of space to grow and also the free fee for investor is very good offer if you are daily trader.

IDEX leaves ED in the dust

Hi, i trust this project. I am joined the Signature campaign. I hope that IDEX project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to Aurora IDEX Team!

Hi Folks, my name not in the spreadsheet and followed all rules!

IDEX is live now, but ethereum is not really processing transactions well

Are they adding all the ERC tokens even the low volume ones?
There are tokens I'm interested to buy but there were no market to it just like Reality-Clash (RCC). I have no intention to deal with anyone nor on etherdelta which is why I'm hoping this exchange will list it.

I think all the ERC20 tokens can be listed. i am waiting

If there is no speed problem, there may be a new etherdelta.

what is your soft cap? hard cap also?

Hey everyone! We just got our new Aurora (https://auroradao.com/) site up! Be sure to check it out!  8)

We also had a video made that shows off the vision of Aurora and what we are developing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8AvIKPr4A

Hope to see you all at the sale this coming Monday!

Yes it does! Way faster, no need to wait for orders to mine before trading again, no chance of orders failing and no need to use insane gas prices to race others to fill the orders!



Thanks for your support! We're glad to have you in the bounty campaign!



Hey, please write in our bounty thread and the bounty manager will take care of you  :)



Yup, unfortunately Ethereum is getting hit hard. We're learning a lot from this, making IDEX more robust. Ultimately this shows that we are on the right track by making a sidechain and moving IDEX from Ethereum over to our own sidechain network. That will allow us to scale to meet demand.

Yup! We add most Ethereum tokens, usually only passing up those that are clearly scams. We try to be open to everyone as long as you aren't trying to scam users on IDEX.



IDEX is already up and running. We have no soft cap, we'll expand Aurora no matter what. For the hardcap it is 1,600 DVIP for a total of 4.8 million USD. Be sure to check out our token sale page to learn more - https://auroradao.com/tokensale/

I really like the Idex exchange, its a smooth experience to trade there. Hopefully we will see more traders and therefore considerable volumes soon. Then the real fun begins! Best wishes for your ICO!

Ethereum is too popular, it will be like this for a long time before it scales

So you beleive that AURORACOIN will face failure and the token symbol will be hold by your project!! I was also confused about the token name you had chosen but didn't expect to read such a strange attitude. Also i would like to ask the difference between your platform and the etherdelta platform so what value are you really adding to attract users besides your competitors. Etherdelta is doing a very good job without any issues at the time.

We agree with this completely which is why we are about to build a sidechain to Ethereum to run IDEX on. Ethereum is going to take many years to scale, it is up to us to solve this problem ourselves. A sidechain will allow us to keep iDEX decentralized while actually having it work too, something most dapps on Ethereum mainnet won't be able to do during the coming backlog.

Thanks Bribed! We're getting the word out and liquidity is increasing. This cat business has set us back a bit but we'll come back even stronger!

i have finished the romanian translation of the whitepaper. it can be consulted here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19XWkoP3DB8MMU0cmzBCvLNDm2LX4AHQs

I participate in bounty
I hope it will be still legit if some things will change

It is hurting IDEX, unfortunately. Not sure if we'll push the sale back, leaning towards no. Ultimately this shows that we are correct in making it a priority to move IDEX over to a sidechain :P :P :P

We might extend the DVIP free trade benefits, need to talk it over with the team :-* :-* :-*

It will, just shows how much this space still has to grow

Best to be following the newsletter to have the most up to date info

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Does this gas problem will influence idex platform/ico?

Shows how early in the game all of this still is

Especially if said project is marketing itself as a "Venmo/Upstart on the blockchain"

This may actually be a good thing. New projects will have to think about implementing a sidechain much earlier

Everything is so messed up that it's not updating and theres low volume

the problem is not about idex, it's about ethereum general but that affects idex very bad. i hope ethereum devs can fix this problem faster. it looks like ethereum is not ready for bigger audiences, they will learn from this and recover.

You boot up your PC every once in a while, sign some blocks and then turn it off

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Great! Thanks a lot!

What happened to VTCS pair?

they have to change up some of our systems to deal with the result of the cat game, all removed markets should be back by the end of this week

So my token will be back up?
 I spent 2 months getting everything together I was going to my market my coin this week but I noticed it wasnt there

Yeah they are working hard to get all the assets listed back up.
Should be up by the end of the week.

a light at the end of the tunnel perhaps
sort of an ironic thing to place bets on the value of if you're running something like this

 I was trading not showing up anymore and I have ETH loched into orders
will I get that ETH back?

I have 0.22 in trades and I only see 0.15 in open trades :-* :-* :-*

Go to "Orders" up top and then click "open orders"
Did you cancel all your open orders?

Any new updates on token listings?

i am temporarily delisted most assets until we make a few upgrades to our system to deal with the backlog related pains

Everything should be back to normal later his week and all new tokens will be llisted

Yes, I agree.
I think that your future will be etherdelta, I have mentioned this topic before.
it needs to be more audit and the system should be followed up continuously.

I am interested in the concept offered by this REAL project, I will invite my friend to invest a bit here and support the real project. Good luck!

WP is definitely worth to read!

A great opportunity to invest. If you have money, invest it!
A stock market that is currently in use and will be used much more in the future!

Could you please explain me more about "mining with AURA"?
Say, if one has a full DVIP and therewith also 50,000 AURAS, which are used to mine,
how does this take place? After mining, will the member keep the 50,000 AURAS
or will they be "burned by mining"?

In other words, how do I stake with AURA and what happens when I stake with AURA?
Do I keep them after staking or will they just be consumable by staking?

Sorry for the delay in response, we've been busy! DVIP costs $3,000 USD in ETH and comes with 50,000 AURA tokens. Since ETH has gone up in value, you get more DVIP and AURA per ETH. And yes, there's only 1600 DVIP in our sale, so the supply is very limited!

The project has been running for quite a while but it feels a bit lonely. but from the project is very good and very promising, what may be because the offer is too expensive? so the movement of the project slowed somewhat? hopefully his project can be successful because this project has a pretty good prospect to be developed.

very nice joined the project. Since seeing this project has great prospects. I think the price is expensive compared to the promised results. Hopefully this project successfully and a success.

i wonder does decentralized exchange truely have a future, people have a very bad experience on EtherDelta which is also a ethereum decentralized exchange

Eth is actually centered, Vitalik has it.
but this system is quite good compared to the heads of the stock exchanges, we can hack investors by saying that we are hacked.
but these systems are better for better privacy.

Yes, the future is decentralized everything. Don't you see how hard governments push people? They try to cut off half of people's hard work earnings. They try to control over everything so we can say FUCK THEM with decentralized exchanges, marketplaces etc. Governments can eat shit now. IDEX is the future.

To do that dev should be active here and do something to make this project look alive again. I am sure if dev is active here and listening to the suggestions from the participants is not difficult for this project to achieve success.

Proyek yang sangat bagus..
Mohon bantuannya, dimana form untuk pendaftaran program bounty.
Mohon bantuannya
Terima kasih

I think if you see the prospect is very good and it is proportional to the price offered, unfortunately this time the selleranya is still not good what's with the investors, I ask for the selleranya getting better and ended with success.karna very dear with a very good prospect is not there is a pretty good result. Good luck ,,,

143 ETHs are very low, but I think it's nice to have a working system right now.
I do not understand people, they throw money into silly projects, but they do not send money to a working system.

Wondering why there isn't much engagement with this project... I can see this being huge in 2018!

Great question to be asking. Unfortunately etherreum is going through a lot of pains right now with the gas prices being so high. We're actively exploring other blockchains to build on instead. We can't wait for ethereum to figure out scaling, it will take too long.

Agreed that it is low, but the good thing is we have raised enough to make it to our next milestone. Obviously this isn't going as well as we'd hope but we are thankful to have enough to move forward and continue developing out our products.

Good projects are born in pain, usually. This include IDEX.

As Vitalik tweeted once that he likes Kitties so, do not expect any working scaling solution on Ethereum network soon.
Like BTC core dev., happy to changes slowly. LoL ... while people paying $15+ for tranactions, seems they do not care much. Ideology (suppose) more important than "consumer satisfaction".
Even Litecoin is now more cost-friendly for transactions, than ETH. Crazy times.
But Kitties are more important.  ;D

I read some crucial info about IDEX.
Glad to see IDEX + AURORA is cost-effective project, rare in our crazy ICOs times.
As I dislike EtherDelta and not using it, I will look forward to see IDEX success story.

I don't know why they can't collect money. This project is a candidate to be Binance of decentralized Ethereum exchanges. Yet, people sleep on it. There's no logical explanation about it.

I will definitely invest near the end, that unsold tokens will be burned is a huge plus. The slow start can be explained by the absence of any early bird bonuses. There isnt any Fomo happening :)

I like this project very much, and I see their business going up. Let's see how the result ends selling tokens.

I want to touch on a topic. MEW hacking is a bad situation but it can benefit IDEX.
what are you thinking.

LOL. We're a decentralized ethereum exchange, we don't even trade bitcoin. Quality FUD, next time to a bit of research and at least accuse us of stealing a token we trade on our platform  ;D

Yes dude, we all know that your exchange is full of Scam Tokens, that are designed only for scammy pump and dump schemes, and for only one purpose: "Stealing Peoples hard earned money"

Bitcoin red, Bitcoin Quick, Bitcoin Revolution, Bitcoin Prime, Ethereum Balck, Etehreum platinum, Etehreum Diamond, Ethereum Bitcoin, Etehreum Prime, and many more.. all of them are listed on IDEX.  All that shit tokens are created by scammers via Ethereum platform free of charge, they are naming them Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Red, Ethereum Gold, Ethereum Cash, Ethereum Dark, Ethereum Blue, Litecoin Gold, Neo Gold e.t.c. and listing them free of charge on scammy IDEX that is listing any shit coin without any problem. After all that, scammers are announcing the shitcoins on bitcointalk. All that scam projects are using scammy airdrop and pump and dump schemes. There are no whitepapers, no team members, no road maps, just a shitty website designed via worldpress for 50 bucks or so... People who have been with the crypto market for long time now will understand these schemes of scams very easily but the noobs who are easily blinded by vaporware and false claims will fall for it and loose thear hard earned money. All that shit tokens are designed just for scamming people and stealing their money! But scam exchange IDEX does not care about this at all, they are just concentrated on getting their fees for transactions and that's it. No more exchange will ever list such tokens! There was Etherdelta, but is was hacked today and I will be more than pleased if the same will happen to IDEX!

                                                                               IDEX IS A SCAM !!! STAY AWAY!!!

It appears you are confusing us with another project. We have never accepted BTC nor traded BTC, in fact, it's impossible since we have an Ethereum exchange. I'm not sure what your issue is with us but we are none of the things you accuse us to be.

Nice idea, I hope you can share more good ideas with the project, and develop together with the project. The price of the coin will come up. That will be a wonderful thing.

Yes, it is a really nice idea to give your money to scammers. Read my posts above with proofs, that IDEX is nothing but a SCAM. But clueless bounty hunter like you do not care about that right? You just care about receiving your scammy tokens from that motherfuckers.

I just turned up to this thread after some days to see a SCAM accusation against the OP.Do you have some proofs to show how many users have been scammed by them?

We haven't scammed anyone, everything mosprognoz and bambarmia is made up.

These users have attempted to extort money from Aurora to stop posting lies.

Yes dude, we all know that you are a Chinese scammer who scammed a lot of people by listing all  scam coins created by your colleagues scammers. Just dial Bitcoin or Ethereum in search box on scammy IDEX website and you will see the names that nobody even heard before.. Bitcoin Red, Bitcoin, Quick, Bitcoin revolution, Ethereum Lite, Ethereum Platinum, Ethereum Movie... and only god knows what else......   

Its strange this guys entire post history is just calling scam on everything he sees. What gives? Do you have any proof, evidence or anything to validate any of this.??

Dude, in my posts history, I'm calling scam things, that are obvious scams.
1. Deeponion - Obvious MLM scam using blockchain to scam investors. (Everybody on this forum knows that it is a scam)
2. Bitconnect - Obvious Ponzi scam using classic HYIP scheme to scam people
3. Etcconnect - Obvious Scam (Just running away with investors money)
4. Worldcore - Obvious Scam organized and orchestrated by well known Russian criminals
5. Monetha - Obvious Scam (CEO is a former stripper and porn star and main developer a student from Belarus)
6. Any token with name of Bitcoin or Ethereum attached (Bitcoin red, Bitcoin Quick, Bitcoin Revolution, Bitcoin Prime, Ethereum Balck, Etehreum platinum, Etehreum Diamond, Ethereum Bitcoin, Etehreum Prime and many more) All of them are listed on IDEX
7. IDEX - Obvious Scam (Low volume Exchange mainly used by scammers for dumping shitcoins ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2215360.msg26797608#msg26797608   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2215360.msg26754927#msg26754927

There are hundreds of other crypto scams on the market, but unfortunately  it is impossible to monitor all of them.  

What proofs are you talking about? That scammy exchange is full of scam coins. Never heard about Bitcoin Red? or Bitcoin revolution? or Ethereum diamond?  ;D Than check the list of IDEX. you will find them, and many more interesting scam tokens.  ;D  I have the reasons to believe, that IDEX is created by Chinese scammers and this project must be reported to authorities, so they can shut it down. I hope that very soon we will see this on IDEX website:   

Hello. I'm not sure who messaged you on Twitter but all of our information, including linkedin profiles are listed on our about page here: https://auroradao.com/about/ . It's fine to hate our project but making up misinformation is not the way to go. People can visit our telegram or message us anytime through our contact form or on Linkedin and we'll be happy to respond. I'm also personally happy to talk to anyone on video chat to prove who I am and to talk about the project.

Scammers will never give you their twitter or facebook profile links, because they are using fake names and stolen identities. Usually there are only fake linkedin profiles boosted via paid services https://www.linkedjetpack.com/buy-linkedin-endorsement/.  IDEX dudes are also using hacked or bought profiles here on bitcointalk. User FarmerOak who is posing here as a Aurora dao aka IDEX representative is using woke up profile and that is the clear sign that his profile was hacked, or bought from somebody else. Last post in January 2014 and then suddenly the new post in May 2017.... Here is the screenshot and here is his profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206647 (Check yourself) Also check the topics started by this person https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=206647;sa=showPosts in 2014 that dude was selling cheap computer parts on ebay and here on bitcointalk and suddenly he became a CEO of multi million dollar project ICO.  ;D  As you can see that scammers are well prepared.

This quote alone should be sufficient proof that this user has a personal agenda and only spreads FUD, because this is obviously not true.

If anyone wants to have a meaningful discussion about IDEX and related projects, come to the telegram group where the team is very active.

Bitcointalk once again shows that's it's not a viable platform for constructive discussions and lacks moderation in extreme cases like this.

Just check his post history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569;sa=showPosts

One of his quality posts for example:


I'll let the rest of his posts speak for itself.

ICO's do that all the time.
Buy higher ranked accounts for them to be able to post images on this forum (back when copper ranked account hasn't been introduced yet)
But yeah, I guess transparency should be the first key to this project. IDEX should come clean and answer these accusations.

Anyways, ED got hacked recently.
Any assurances that this won't happen on IDEX too?

I'm the exact same person I was then and am today, this account was not purchased and I have nothing to hide. I mined bitcoin with ASICs in 2013-2014 and then stepped away from crypto for a couple years. I am not the CEO of Aurora. None of the accounts associated with the project have been bought. All social media and linkedin accounts are real, anyone on the project would be happy to hop on a video call with anyone, anytime. I would love to see the con artists FUDDing in this thread do the same, but I know they wouldn't.

Good question on the hack! We have secured our DNS servers with 2 factor auth and renewed passwords and cannot be hacked that way. Additionally, our core code is not open source so even if the site were taken it would be next to impossible to simulate the inner workings by the time we detected the hack and secured the site. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Let me introduce you to a scammer FarmerOak hiding under the fake name of Phil Wearn https://auroradao.com/about/
Here is his short CV on Aurora Dao website: Former Co-founder of EtherEx, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107409 Phil has been building blockchain based companies since the time when Ethereum was little more than a white paper. (Sounds like a bullshit isn't it? ;D) EtherEx is a scam as you can see from the announcement link.


Another bullshit  ;D


Could you give us a link to your Twitter or a Facebook profile? (There is no Phil Wearn on Twitter nor on Facebook)


Then who the fuck are you? It is written on the website that you are COO of that scammy company.


Decentralized exchange with no open sourse code that means no github.. great  ;D


Yes dude, we know that, because you do not have Twitter profile, you do not have Facebook profile, you do not have Instagram profile. Just a fake linkedin profile with a fake name on it.

Hi Mosprognoz, this is Alex Wearn here, CEO of Aurora. As farmeroak (Brian) has mentioned, we have an individual who is trying to extort us to list his token, literally called "scam coin", on our exchange. We have reason to believe you are this same individual, as he has offered to "make our problem on bitcointalk go away" if we send him 1 eth. I don't expect my reply will make you stop, but I do want to refute all of your claims for anyone who may come across this thread and question the integrity of our company.

Team Members: As has been said multiple times all of our linkedin profiles are listed on our site. Here is a video of me discussing our project on the CyrptoCoinShow a week ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBiXruVl4QA&feature=youtu.be. Here is my twitter profile, https://twitter.com/followers?lang=en. I'm not very active but you can see a lot of the information is from our pre-pivot company, decentralized capital. Here is a video of me presenting about that company at demo day at DevCon 2, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Idws7px6NU. My medium account with all of our Aurora related blog posts https://medium.com/@alexwearn.

Our COO, Phil, was a co-founder of the etherex exchange, here is the github https://github.com/etherex/etherex/commits/master. As you can see the commits stopped in around April 2016 as the project disbanded. The link you found does indeed appear to be some scam token that is trying to piggyback off the Etherex brand name.

Here is the link to the AurorDao github page, all of our smart contracts are open source https://github.com/AuroraDAO.

As for the assets on IDEX, we are a decentralized exchange and as such we try not to pass judgement on what assets are made available. We agree that the airdrops have gotten a little out of hand, and have actually stopped adding tokens to the exchange that don't at least have their own email domain (because if you can't make that minimal investment you probably aren't very reputable). The majority of the tokens you've highlighted have literally never traded, so I'm not sure why you believe we are collaborating with the token creators.

If anyone still has any questions please let me know, happy to provide any more info.

why someone after bounty is over said aurora scam ? i think you must said that when bounty is running or maybe when this project, so everyone knows that this project is a scam, good luck dev i hope this project will be success

According to etherscan you raised more than 1.6 million dollars for your scam ICO. And somebody is trying to extort only 1 ETH?  ;D Dude you are lying.  


@AlexWearn Bro.. this is a fake profile with only 11 tweets since registration in 2013 and all that 11 tweets are about another scam called Decentralized Capital https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668707.0   https://decentralizedcapital.com


Dude, etherex is a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107409 http://www.etherexx.org


Why did you list them? Your exchange is a house for all imaginable and unimaginable scam and shitcoins and I have reasons to believe that you are collaborating with that scammers who created them.   (Check my previous posts)



We know that already.

Hmm i have already a phobia when. I heared AURORA name, it scammed me. I hope this is different.

I like this exchange, it works super!.
It is a pity that I did not meet this project earlier.

When will the end of the tokensale?

hello,I had a question.
I am Chinese that if my IP address not in China,
can I join the ICO?

He's angry that there was a delay in listing his token on our exchange so he has resorted to very childish tactics. Don't worry we aren't going anywhere.

I see that you participated in our bounty, thank you very much for your help! Our bounty manager is tallying all of the information and the DVIP will be distributed at the end of the sale (January 11th). Don't forget you can use the DVIP to get discounted trades on IDEX. Hope to see you there soon, feel free to join our telegram chat if you would like to ask us any questions directly.



Thanks for the kind words, we really do believe we have the best decentralized exchange out there! The token sale will end on January 11th at 4pm UTC.

Hello everyone, unfortunately we’re forced to lock this thread due to bambarmia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553) and mosprognoz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569) threatening to extort money from the project.

We have moved to a new moderated thread to protect the project and the community. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2651604.new#new)

These two accounts are the same person, Anton Malikov. It all started when he tried to add his new token (literally named) "scam coin" to our exchange. We replied that we had temporarily paused the addition of new tokens but would get to it soon, which set off a series of escalating threats to DDOS us and attempt to ruin our project: https://imgur.com/a/IAxdy

Here is a link to his twitter profile (https://twitter.com/gemalikov), you'll see he links scam coin in his bio section - https://imgur.com/a/WpqGp

On Twitter they sent us a message from their "Scam coin" account claiming that it was “other users” and that if we just add the token and pay 1 ETH into his ICO he will “get the people to delete the messages” - https://imgur.com/a/jaTYr

We reached out politely on bitcointalk and offered to talk to them over video chat to prove who we are and to hear their concerns. We were met with another threat to give them 1 ETH or it “will be a very bad choice believe me.” http://d.pr/i/LVRP7k . Crypto is not about bullying and extortion, and we will not be swayed. We have reported this to the moderators and will be pursuing legal action.

We also wanted to spend a moment to address their messages directly to alleviate concerns that they have any validity at all.


The markets they accuse us of scamming have no connection to Aurora and all can also be traded on Etherdelta. That's how decentralized exchanges work-- we add projects that ask to be listed through our form and give proper information. We review projects regularly and refuse to add or remove any that appear to be scams.

We're not Chinese (as you can plainly see from our bios and Linkedin pages), not that it should matter anyway as that’s just racist, and we haven't scammed anyone. There's not a single post about anyone being scammed besides these two (or one) users FUDDing. None of our bitcointalk accounts or social media have been purchased or faked, we’re exactly who we say we are and are willing to talk to anyone anytime through whatever ways they wish.

To Anton, thank you very much for bumping our announcement thread, it was getting a little quiet in here and now we’ve got a lot of people joining our telegram interested in learning more. More importantly, thank you to our many faithful supporters, we hope you understand this decision as we cannot let two con artists affect the success of the project. Onwards and upwards!

Warm regards,
The Aurora Team