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Ya know what? I'm not even going to extract my "bitcoin gold". I'll just leave it, and let it die. The price will fall so fast to 0.0000000001 that no one cares about this crapcoin.

Well probably this is a really scam, and personally I'm not interesting in this anymore. Howewer we can be wrong and it's not scam need more research.

Well probably this is a really scam, and personally I'm not interesting in this anymore. Howewer we can be wrong and it's not scam need more research.

Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold....what's next? Bitcoin Silver?? this hardfork is all just confusing now. These new coins are creating stability, chaos and eminent crash!

I hope it's not a scam. It will be great alternative to mine when ethereum will change PoW algorithm to PoS.

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.)




thanks for the info......:-)

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

obviously its a ascam... but the point is not this... the point is that even if most comunity agree with this... at the same time it sell alts for holding btc. this is the best way to ruin the prestige of btc: if we go on in this way, "we" could introduce a btc fork every couple of mouths... why not?? its the comunity that make real or fake some scam. if everybody (like me) wouldnt sell alts to have more btc just to pick up scam coin, they would stop to get in the marker such a fork. Comunity its a delusion one more time... like the fork in august... but its the reality.

Bitcoin hard forks are incredibly damaging for the future of cryptocurrency. The issue is the FUD it spreads to those outside of cryptocurrencies when they hear about what is going on (how can value be created out of nothing). Imagine if USD had a hard fork, or GBP or EUR. It would be crazy.

This and the fact that many new users can get very confused and lose funds if they dont understand replay protection, private keys etc.

The WHOLE community has a duty to try and prevent these things from happening, if it keeps on going then the outside world will lose all faith in cryptocurrency and thats the end of the ride.

Those selling off their altcoins just to receive some Bitcoin Gold after the fork will regret it.  I don't think Bitcoin Gold will be worth much.  It will be worth less than Bitcoin Cash and the price of Bitcoin will also probably drop some after the fork.  They will be losing out on much more money from the altcoins that they sold will rise back up again.  

We might see reversal of bitcoins growth if these news spread. Certainly this new fork is nothing compared to the previous one. That actually had some major companies backing it up.

If bitcoin gold will prove itself a legit I think it will be worth way more than btc cash...  I agree about BTC dropping, question is if it happens after 25th or maybe after second hard fork... Alts then will sky rocket IMO.


This one will have an army of GPU miners behind it...

Those selling off their altcoins just to receive some Bitcoin Gold after the fork will regret it.  I don't think Bitcoin Gold will be worth much.  It will be worth less than Bitcoin Cash and the price of Bitcoin will also probably drop some after the fork.  They will be losing out on much more money from the altcoins that they sold will rise back up again.   

In the end all the blames goes to crypto Community who are always looking for cheap and easy money. Assuming that BTG is scam, people will still pile up BTC just to get Free BTG. This never ending thirst will bring more shit coins which are based on BTC.

I'll just sell my free Bitcoingold  ;D

Indeed, many will want to get a free coin called Bitcoin Gold. Moreover, it is supposed to cost not less than $ 500.

Sure sounds scammy as hell, or at least amateur hour.  I mean one developer, seriously?

I am thinking bitcoin is going up right now because people want free bitcoin gold. 

I don't think bitcoin gold will amount to much.

It's not even a well thought out scam.  If it was well thought out they would have a nice web site, a real whitepaper, and some well known backers, and at least try to portray a larger dev team.

It's not even a well thought out scam.  If it was well thought out they would have a nice web site, a real whitepaper, and some well known backers, and at least try to portray a larger dev team.

Nope I don't think its scam since its free and the people will dictate on this on what would the fate goes for the bitcoin gold and if people selects to hold it then this alt will earn a good future but if people would do a receive dump schemes then this coin will be sorry. But we should be careful since might there are some manipulators that will manipulate it and we will be trap at the peak price if we buy immediately.

Well probably this is a really scam, and personally I'm not interesting in this anymore. Howewer we can be wrong and it's not scam need more research.

If majority think this is a scam and want free cash, this will be a huge dump and not a lot of free cash...

even if it's a scam or not i don't care I just want that free coin and then I will sale it.
And I'm sure you will do it too  ;D

i dont think it scam because it'll base on equidhash, mine by VGA

I am staying far away from this one, that's one thing I know.
Thanks for posting this.

Now,it has almost become a trend to do hard forks and create a useless shitcoin.Just they are doing this to fill their pockets.Even more people of bitcoin community have also become eager to welcome such hard forks so that they could get some free coins.They don't even feel that it is spoiling the reputation of bitcoin totally.

lol you have to give them some credit for trying but honestly these forks and airdrops of generating money from thin air are the things our central banks will despise about bitcoin, I hope this will be trashed as we do not need another bitcoin doppelganger to slow down the momentum.

No one knows really. Just like what happened with Bitcoin cash.

I am personally not at all interested in Bitcoin gold. For the guys going for this, for their sake I hope I am wrong.

Some interesting news about the impending Bitcoin Gold fork; do not hold BTC on exchanges like Coinbase & Bitpay as you are in great danger of losing your BTC altogether.
Interestingly the Electrum wallet is recommended as a store for your BTC, but no mention if it's good for Bitcoin Gold.

"
The signatories of this agreement wrongly believe that the currency created by adopting this contentious hard fork will eventually become Bitcoin. Therefore storing any BTC on services such as Coinbase, Bitpay and Xapo is strongly not recommended. By storing BTC on these services, you could find that after the hard fork, your BTC has been renamed to something else or replaced entirely with the new altcoin. The best way to ensure that your BTC is protected is to download the latest version of Bitcoin Core and transfer out any BTC stored on services that are a signatory to this agreement. We have listed the businesses supporting this contentious hard fork at the bottom of this document.

For users who aren’t prepared to install Bitcoin Core and go through the lengthy set up process, we recommend a wallet such as GreenAddress, Electrum or TREZOR. Avoid using web wallets like blockchain.info.
"

https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2017-10-09-segwit2x-safety

Yeah it smells like scam coin! This is not the actual fork of the Bitcoin , i think that the name of this new Forked coin will not be a BTG but completely different than!

Scam or not does not matter to me. I will take the free coins from the fork and dump them for good old BTC.

Free money is free money for me. No need to worry.

i don't think it is scam because then jaynemesis (a famous crypto-trader at etoro) would have warned. Besides of that i stay away from bitcoin gold becuase i think it's the same rubbish as bitcoin cash is. it won't survive very long

i don't think it is scam because then jaynemesis (a famous crypto-trader at etoro) would have warned. Besides of that i stay away from bitcoin gold becuase i think it's the same rubbish as bitcoin cash is. it won't survive very long

Scam or not does not matter to me. I will take the free coins from the fork and dump them for good old BTC.

Free money is free money for me. No need to worry.

Of course it's a scam. It's a huge cash grab.

These guys raised so much money that they can easily rest on the islands right now)

Hmmm all I heard so far is not that good news for BTG. I was very curious about this hard fork. All i was thinking was "not another bitcoin hardfork"

Things getting to slobby and peoples going for a big laungh on that.

What's their point? GPU mining? Yeah well this one was done by e.g. Bitcore long time ago.

I think this is just a marketing foul. After that hardfork some bags will be fullfiled even more than before.

I do not think so, but I am not sure if they will be stay in the market in a good position though.

I think it'll go the same route as Bitcoin Cash. Another useless fork.

Yes, so many people want to do the same thing. You are not alone, after the hard fork, we will buy alts again, altcoins will go to moon again.

It is bad to buy BTC now because people think that they will get free BTG.  But if you buy BTC at $5800 and after hard fork it dropped to $5000 then you lose... unless btg is priced at $800 a BTG

It is bad to buy BTC now because people think that they will get free BTG.  But if you buy BTC at $5800 and after hard fork it dropped to $5000 then you lose... unless btg is priced at $800 a BTG

Bitcoin Gold is not getting the attention that Bitcoin Cash received.  It will probably just end up being a cheap coin on low volume exchanges.  I also heard that there was a 200,000 bitcoin gold premine which was suppose to be used for an ICO but something happened and it's no longer going to happen. 

What about news that BTG developers self mined from 01 Oct? And BTG fork was already done? And all who can get BTG was already screenshoted?

Gold actually has a somewhat real web site FINALLY.

http://btcgpu.org/

I am staying far away from this one, that's one thing I know.
Thanks for posting this.

Bitcoin Gold is not getting the attention that Bitcoin Cash received.  It will probably just end up being a cheap coin on low volume exchanges.  I also heard that there was a 200,000 bitcoin gold premine which was suppose to be used for an ICO but something happened and it's no longer going to happen. 

My thoughts too. I was toying with the idea of buying more BTC to get more BTG but, like you said, BTC could drop soon after the fork and if BTG is worthless then I could lose a big heap of cash.

1 week left.
Will I need to create another wallet for BTG?I have Exodus for my BTC.Will I have to move all my BTC to a wallet that support BTG to have the "free" BTG?

Not sure how you will access BTG yet but as long as you have a BTC wallet where you own your private keys you will get the BTG.

With BTC Cash fork, bittrex was actually very fast and created/provided to you this new altcoin almost instantly. With electrum and private keys it was... well I wouldn't say hard but problematic. That's said I wouldn't encourage anyone to depo to bittrex since last rumors and a lot of accounts closed.

With BTC Cash fork, bittrex was actually very fast and created/provided to you this new altcoin almost instantly. With electrum and private keys it was... well I wouldn't say hard but problematic. That's said I wouldn't encourage anyone to depo to bittrex since last rumors and a lot of accounts closed.

This "scam" is getting real by the day and people are going to make a shit of money from it! You can choose to get in and make money. OR you can join the scam singer while the rest make money off your scam announcement effort! It's your choice!

Don't FUD about Bittrex without knowing sufficient information. Bittrex closed around 0.1% of accounts only as part of routine checks. They have made official announcement in this regards too.

I don't think so, i mean the news about this fork already booming and everyone know it. I think this bitcoin gold will do same like bitcoin cash and in the end bitcoin will be still the best cryptocurrency with a big price on it. What i think is bitcoin gold is like just another altcoin that using bitcoin fame like bitcoin cash.

So far none of the exchanges have come in support of BTG which is totally opposite the BCH fork scenario where some of the major websites have supported BCH lot earlier than the fork date.

I still dont want this shitcoin at cost of my BTC. Always remember if its not transparent enough better don't take the risk!

It will be listed on Yobit. I think it is best for the space that exchnages show no interest in this project, if not we will be having one BTC fork per week, just look at the recent Airdrop madness with the tokens having no actual use case

yobit has too small volumes, I do not think that it will be possible to effectively trade there. Will Bitfinex not support?

It will be listed on Yobit. I think it is best for the space that exchnages show no interest in this project, if not we will be having one BTC fork per week, just look at the recent Airdrop madness with the tokens having no actual use case

Coinbase is claiming that the Gold fork has already happened.  Not sure how they know this or think this but if true then the Gold team has lied to everyone.

https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/2892196-bitcoin-gold-faq

it's just a airdrop coin, like other altcoins

Scam or not I'm not supporting it anyways. I really don't care about their goals either. Apparently they want to decentralize mining but I'm not sure if this is the right way to do so, not to mention if it will succeed. Yesterday coinbase announced that they won't be supporting it. Another reason to stay away.

if you bitcoin gold is called scam, then all alts are scam  ;D .. In my view its just tells cryptoworld is truly decentralized .. all source is open and anyone can fork and build community..  as long as community supports alt will have value.. nothing can stop or scam.

It looks like there is a scam within a scam - as in other opportunistic scammers are trying to set up a scam based on claiming Bitcoin Gold.

Check out this site claimbitcoin.gold - linked to from the "Bitcoin Gold" (@btcgpu) twitter account, but clearly a scam. It asks you to enter your private key or seed to "verify ownership" of the address you are claiming for lol.

https://image.ibb.co/cPO8GR/Untitled.png

It looks like there is a scam within a scam - as in other opportunistic scammers are trying to set up a scam based on claiming Bitcoin Gold.

Check out this site claimbitcoin.gold - linked to from the "Bitcoin Gold" (@btcgpu) twitter account, but clearly a scam. It asks you to enter your private key or seed to "verify ownership" of the address you are claiming for lol.

https://image.ibb.co/cPO8GR/Untitled.png

That is incredible.  Why is Twitter supporting a scam site?

Hi you, this is scam site.
You need check
1. site: https://btcgpu.org/
2. Twitter: @bitcoingold

So far none of the exchanges have come in support of BTG which is totally opposite the BCH fork scenario where some of the major websites have supported BCH lot earlier than the fork date.

I still dont want this shitcoin at cost of my BTC. Always remember if its not transparent enough better don't take the risk!

Some exchanges have but the shitty ones and I am not surprised. Honestly, this coin is going to end up even more shitty that BCC the way it is. Looking at their website, there is just only one single wallet available for it. It is still possible though that after the fork, we will see some wallets or exchange for it but until then, fingers are crossed.

It's not just crappy exchanges like Yobit now. Bittrex has now announced support for the fork, and they are one of the largest altcoin exchanges on the market. I think they are looking for some hype to pump volumes after the account locking scare recently.

There is/was definitely more support for Bitcoin Cash. This time, Bitcoin miners (and the Unlimited supporters who wanted miners to decide consensus rules) don't have any reason to back the fork. But frankly, this fork hype just makes the Segwit2x fork look more and more silly. I'm beginning to think that's the point here! Maybe the point of Bitcoin Gold all along was to cause fatigue around all these Bitcoin forks.

It looks like there is a scam within a scam - as in other opportunistic scammers are trying to set up a scam based on claiming Bitcoin Gold.

Check out this site claimbitcoin.gold - linked to from the "Bitcoin Gold" (@btcgpu) twitter account, but clearly a scam. It asks you to enter your private key or seed to "verify ownership" of the address you are claiming for lol.

https://image.ibb.co/cPO8GR/Untitled.png

It looks like there is a scam within a scam - as in other opportunistic scammers are trying to set up a scam based on claiming Bitcoin Gold.

Check out this site claimbitcoin.gold - linked to from the "Bitcoin Gold" (@btcgpu) twitter account, but clearly a scam. It asks you to enter your private key or seed to "verify ownership" of the address you are claiming for lol.

Where did you see that bittrex has announced the support of Bitcoin Gold ? Any link ?

I don't want to lend any credence to the Bitcoin Gold project because I don't think it's innovative and I think it's just a cash grab. But you're referring to a straight-up scam not associated with the actual project. It's been known for some time that @btcgpu is an imposter. And it should be obvious to anyone who has been in the Bitcoin space for a while that you should never enter your private keys this way. The official mediums are the @bitcoingold Twitter account and btcgpu.org.

That's definitely one of the downsides of all this fork drama. All the greed and hype creates big opportunities for people to scam newbies.


See their full statement here: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002320451

It's not just crappy exchanges like Yobit now. Bittrex has now announced support for the fork, and they are one of the largest altcoin exchanges on the market. I think they are looking for some hype to pump volumes after the account locking scare recently.

There is/was definitely more support for Bitcoin Cash. This time, Bitcoin miners (and the Unlimited supporters who wanted miners to decide consensus rules) don't have any reason to back the fork. But frankly, this fork hype just makes the Segwit2x fork look more and more silly. I'm beginning to think that's the point here! Maybe the point of Bitcoin Gold all along was to cause fatigue around all these Bitcoin forks.

More & more saying the Bitcoin Gold snapshot has already happened? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOOcj9TkQ10

Interesting. One thing he suggest is that HitBTC is the place to hold your Bitcoin if you want at least some assurance of getting your Bitcoin Gold.
I think I may transfer all my Bitcoin out of Bittrex who are saying you may, or may not, get Bitcoin Gold.

bittrex accommodates bitoingold snapshots, but they never talk about the market, but I think if we look at the prospect of bCH until now, almost all markets will trade with bitcoingold, until now only three markets have announced it has received it, it is very ironic because of hardfork deadlines immediately appear.

lol BTG is not a scam.

IMO Bitcoin GOLD = bitcoin cash

So I don't think so it'll get good value.

In my opinion Bitcoin Gold is a scam created just to enrich the developers. But this scam scheme will give a free money to a lot of people ! That's why nobody cares if it's a scam or not. Let's wait and see how this  absurd circus will go on.

We all know that this is scam but yet we all waiting those coins to showed up and to starts real trade. First thing that bothers me is this premine, better approach would be allocation of funds as fixed percentage of the miners reward. Second nothing until November, no wallet no replay protection, we only have a promises. Only thing here that bothers me we will have bunch of new coins wearing name Bitcoin. All this stupidity will cause BTC slower adoption. Newbies are probably confused when they see story about four bitcoins..

Weird their website is down.
Is it too late too buy now?I am in the eastern time zone.Thanks
IT's basically free money how can it be a scam...Once you receive the BTG just dump it and get another coin no?

Bitcoin block number 491407 is reached : the Bitcoin blockchain snapshot is dome.
Next steps :
 - having tools to make the swap.
 - some exchanges to trade the coin.
 - some pools to mine and securise the coin.
But no stress, we have time.

Good luck Bitcoin gold.

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

I don't understand.
either it is scam or not,If we are getting free money and gaining some amount whats wrong in there.
If technology get stabilized will see its future. ;D

No one knows really. Just like what happened with Bitcoin cash.

I am personally not at all interested in Bitcoin gold. For the guys going for this, for their sake I hope I am wrong.

Just spotted this, forget about Bitcoin Gold - forget about GOLD - put all your money (house included) into Bitcoin - The Mighty Woz has spoken !
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/money2020-wozniak-thinks-bitcoin-better-gold/

people don't consider if it was a scam or not what they just want is a free money  , If you really into bitcoin gold make at least some research maybe supporting it will make bitcoin value drop , I am loyal bitcoin enthusiast so I will just dump it for a purpose of supporting bitcoin not to have free money

I don't understand.
either it is scam or not,If we are getting free money and gaining some amount whats wrong in there.
If technology get stabilized will see its future. ;D

https://medium.com/@jiangzhuoer/bitcoin-gold-just-another-ico-scam-with-200-000-coins-pre-mined-b839fa2263dd

Check it out here. The funder of BTG is an ICO scammer with very bad reputation in the past.

I am curious to see where it will be in the future.

it taked pretty bad. I am curious to see where it will be in the future.

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-website-following-massive-ddos-attack/

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

Thanks for your news, it's very important. I don't know this coin is scam or no, but Im joined this airdrop.

Bitcoin gold is not a scam. It's just a bunch of people that try to profit from the fork, the exact the same way that Bitcoin cash founder were trying to profit. It doesn't mean it's a scam, it only means that someone things a lot of money can be made from this, if people believe that ASCI will not be necessary anymore and prefer CPU over it, that's fine, let them invest in it. Bitcoin Cash has done quite well considering it did not have so much to over (just a higher block size, which comes with man issues), so the mining thing with Bitcoin Gold is quite justified as a good solution to an ever increasing problem. The founders are out there and communicate, and these are real people not internet trolls or avatars hiding behind a mask. It's definitely not a scam, but that doesn't mean it's a good investment.

Bitcoin gold is not a scam. It's just a bunch of people that try to profit from the fork, the exact the same way that Bitcoin cash founder were trying to profit. It doesn't mean it's a scam, it only means that someone things a lot of money can be made from this, if people believe that ASCI will not be necessary anymore and prefer CPU over it, that's fine, let them invest in it. Bitcoin Cash has done quite well considering it did not have so much to over (just a higher block size, which comes with man issues), so the mining thing with Bitcoin Gold is quite justified as a good solution to an ever increasing problem. The founders are out there and communicate, and these are real people not internet trolls or avatars hiding behind a mask. It's definitely not a scam, but that doesn't mean it's a good investment.

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

Strange situation. No official wallets, no official statements (only user speculations), but it is traded on few exchanges and trading means also someone is buying it  ???
Hope people will not lose too much on it.

It's too early to tell just like Bitcoincash many will support it and also many will call it scam but we need a few weeks more, to see if it will gain support from investors, some traders and investors have trusted mlm coin like Bitconnectcoin let's see how it goes for Bitcoingold.

Bitcoin Gold is scam but it's hardly said "well thought". I wouldn't even check that before but after reading OP's post I agree with him completely. All evidences are clear. Don't give value to shitforks. They need to learn that people don't buy this foolishness.

The scam called 'bitcoin gold' is been gradually exposed! The site of bitcoin gold has been unavailable in the last 24hrs! Nobody has any information on their update as regard development plan and some other services to make the coin marketable, mineabe and tradeable!

its shameless

Shameless ?? People do not care about shame and morality when it comes to free money. The price of BTG is in the free fall now, so I strongly recommend you to sell all of them before it will hit $10 or something.

Probably good money for big holders in the short term, however in the longer run the hype on bitcoin gold will gradually fade. I sold mine and suggest to hold this not too long, also because there's another thing happening in november. Look at the chart of bitcoin cash and see what happened to holders. Good coin or not, trust is gonna stay with bitcoin and nothing else.

the report is very useful, thank you.

you also can't actually say it's free money, because hype around forks influences the prices of other currencies.

How did you sell your Bitcoin Gold considering it hasn't even launched yet?

I’m little disappointed because I was hoping that with this fork mining would be again possible for small RIGs but in any case there is definitely room for doubt. It seems like it is a Scam. There are a lot of unknowns and according to what I've read here I would certainly not invest money into BTC Gold.

I was thinking, what if they are trying to look like they are going scam, just so they can buy up more cheap coins?  If they do come back im afraid everyone is going to be surprised.  I mean are they that dumb to think the bitcoin community a fool to pool of  a scheme like this, or this is reverse physiology.  Dump your 0 cost coins at me, ill buy them for pennies and hodl.  I might even use it.  :)  The bad part if they are holding tons of coins so then can dump it later, unless they burnt them.

I do understand all wanna free money but why the team had premined the coin, bitcoin cash were exchanged on 1-1 ratio with bitcoin this one is just a scam coin wich is taking advantage of bitcoin to make live a coin that would get zero value, wonder how many more forks people will consider to release and who will be able to support this coins.

I do understand all wanna free money but why the team had premined the coin, bitcoin cash were exchanged on 1-1 ratio with bitcoin this one is just a scam coin wich is taking advantage of bitcoin to make live a coin that would get zero value, wonder how many more forks people will consider to release and who will be able to support this coins.

Did you even bother reading the OP? they planned it to be an ICO coin thats the reason for the pre-mine its a scam. they would dump it in the future.

I do hope it will reach 0 by the end of the week.

I’m little disappointed because I was hoping that with this fork mining would be again possible for small RIGs but in any case there is definitely room for doubt. It seems like it is a Scam. There are a lot of unknowns and according to what I've read here I would certainly not invest money into BTC Gold.

You can always mine vertcoin, its Equihash

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

at one seminar, the speaker offered the audience to invest Bcash and BGold, is this normal, do you think?

I'm quite new to cryptocurrencies and this whole bitcoin gold thing has made me very confused... Maybe I should read about other bitcoin-prefix coins if something alike has happened before

In the end all the blames goes to crypto Community who are always looking for cheap and easy money. Assuming that BTG is scam, people will still pile up BTC just to get Free BTG. This never ending thirst will bring more shit coins which are based on BTC.

During the last hard fork in august,most of bitcoin holders feared that due to hard fork,bitcoin may lose its value and so they wished that fork should not happen.But this time,attitude of most people has changed and they all eagerly await for hard fork even after knowing that BTG would be a shit coin.They just need some free coins at any extent.This attitude is not good for the progress of bitcoin and until people continue to have such attitude,we could expect more hard forks as well as shitcoins in future also.

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

The problem is that anybody can create the same for almost no cost ! That's the sad reality of crypto market this days. Just an easy way to enrich scammers.

Anyone can create a Bitcoin-derived altcoin like "Bitcoin Gold" (BTG) at any time with no cost. BTG is a scammy cash-grab with no ideology and no economic support, not something serious like Bcash was. That's not to say that it's impossible to make money by trading it, just like with other scamcoins, but I'm not going to get into the habit of writing announcements and guidance for every Bitcoin-derived scamcoin. If you want to do a dangerous replay-unprotected coin-split maneuver in order to claim tiny fractions of your BTC in airdrop value, that's on you.

I will write a guide later for B2X (split time in mid-November), which is more serious. After that, the bar is going to be awfully high to get me to announce similar things.

All these forks are crap IMO.

But greedy guys will keep forking BTC untill they either kill it or everyone will finally stop hunting free crap

I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

i don't think its scam. after financial crisis bitcoin appeared to be independent from banks. now they want to disempower banks from regulation of gold price.

I did not get your point. Can you clarify your statement please.

Theoretically yes, but by doing this you will grant access to whatever wallet you will use to import your private key (to get yout BTGs) to your Bitcoin wallet(compromising it)...not really a smart thing to do. (unless you spend all your BTC to another wallet before doing that).

This sounds like the same technique used to get Bitcoin Cash using a Bitcoin wallet. If I remember correctly there was/is a way to do it (for Bitcoin Cash) using the Electrum wallet (lost the link). Be sure to use the official Electrum wallet and not one of the suspect Electrum-Cash wallets out there.

I don't think this is a scam. If people thinks that ICOs and most crypto are scams then perhaps this is the same. The thing is we the crypto community will be the ones deciding its fate. Let us wait and see how their team works.

I agree and on top of that the guys from the BTG team are working hard to get things done.
I think this will be a good Altcoin to mine and invest into once everything settles.

I just hope it's profitable to mine.  It would be nice for AMD to have some competition from Nvidia.

I agree and on top of that the guys from the BTG team are working hard to get things done.
I think this will be a good Altcoin to mine and invest into once everything settles.

No one knows really. Just like what happened with Bitcoin cash.

I am personally not at all interested in Bitcoin gold. For the guys going for this, for their sake I hope I am wrong.

Bitcoin Unlimited died, Bitcoin SegWit2x was also died => Bitcoin Gold died too ;D. Only Bitcoin Cash can keep high price after forked from original Bitcoin. As far as I know, all cloned coins from Bitcoin never have good future, only Bitcoin Cash is an exception.

Bitcoin Unlimited died, Bitcoin SegWit2x was also died => Bitcoin Gold died too ;D. Only Bitcoin Cash can keep high price after forked from original Bitcoin. As far as I know, all cloned coins from Bitcoin never have good future, only Bitcoin Cash is an exception.

Nobody can say with definite certainty that if this all was a pre planned scam to loot us. But the way things are turning out and the fork getting cancelled it surely looks like that this all was preordained.

After the latest improvements to bitcoin gold from its development team, I changed the opinion of this coin for the better. It seems to me that this coin will have a future, especially if the efforts of developers continue in this direction. Therefore, I do not think that bitcoin gold is a bad forgery. However, let's see what happens next.

Bitcoin SegWit2x didn't died, it was cancelled or postponed. Devs didn't say "it will never ever gonna be implemented"

Bitcoin Gold looks to have a positive feedback so only time will tell if it is going to be successful (my bet would be yes only if it won't be a pure scam). You need to take into consideration that as soon as Gold will be most profitable coin a lot of miners will back it up. Of course I doubt it will replace "true" Bitcoin, still IMO it will be valued above a Bitcoin Cash. I guess first answers to this puzzle we will receive as soon as tomorrow with Bitcoin Gold releasing itself to the miners. I'm crossing my fingers...

With CERTAINTY its a SCAM, its been researched since August 2017, all the players are scammers, the owners of all the associated websites BTG, BTGCPU, BITCOIN-COIN, are all part of organized ICO-SCAM ring.


The scammers who orchestrate this scam, aren't even writing the code, they're paying 'bounty' of shitcoin to people who write the code as needed, in effect that scammers didn't even have the resources in house to do a BTC CLONE, pathetic when you think how these people are giving professional scammers a bad name.

Fact is nobody would go work for a pump&dump scam operation, not being a real job, thus they just create websites and try to hustle people to work for free.

No way in hell this thing will be operational in 31 hours, right now target is 12NOV@1900UTC

Even if they release so called 'working code' it will take 4 days on average to download the blockchain, as you can't use the bitcoin --datadir=, or copy an existing, you must download and -bootstrap, because this bitch convert existing blockchain from 1mb to 2mb,

In effect even IF there is code it will take days for the POOLS to download and get the blockchain functional, people have been now -testnet mining on POOL.GOLD for 3 weeks, now -testnet mining on btg.suprnova.cc for days, reporting 800K Million sols/sec, which is BULLSHIT, most likely 800k sols/sec, but its all indicative of the fact that NOBODY cares that nothing works.

Solo miners too, once the main-net code is released must download the working block-chain ( convert ) and get it up before they can mine,

I suspect that internally at btcGPU ( bulgaria ) they must have already at the very least have a working block-chain ( its actually easy to enable main-net in the code ), its easy to get the seed-nodes,

But it might be 4-5 days after 12NOV before "REAL MINING" begins, if at all, I doubt code will be released, if its released it will be full of bugs and non-functional, and the team github.com/btcgpu, will fall back into excuse mode and blame DOS for their incompetence, as they have done all along for 2+ months.

Bitcoin gold seems to be a badly prepared project, I haven't really taken btg seriously.
After hearing about the scam wallet they linked on their website I wonder what's going on, smells fishy.

In my opinion, though the future of Bitcoin Gold will not be good like Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin or other potential Altcoins, but I think the price of this coin can increases in that time. Just because some rumors about Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin made me have this prediction. Wait next time to see the result :).

In my opinion, though the future of Bitcoin Gold will not be good like Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin or other potential Altcoins, but I think the price of this coin can increases in that time. Just because some rumors about Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin made me have this prediction. Wait next time to see the result :).

People already losing money from this scam coin, this developer will abandon this project when those people start chasing after this scamming developer team

Here is related info of Bitcoin GOLD

Bitcoin Gold lost a total of $3.3 million scams after submitting their private keys operators of the illegal activities of the website.
Read detail info here: Bitcoin Gold scam worth (https://coinpedia.org/news/3-million-stolen-bitcoin-gold-scam/)

Different airdrop and ico coming up lately which calls for caution from everyone,thou that should not diter us from investing,all that is just require is to do more research on each project,Bit Gold looks more like a scam,but seems they where hacked

so what shall we do?
If i bought BTG at 0.05 , should i sell or wait it increae ? ( it went from 0.05 to 0.039 today ).

According to CoinDesk, a US data and news tool, more than $ 3.3 million was stolen in a scheme that hit Bitcoin users who were trying to redeem their digital coins from the last hard fork of the network, Bitcoin Gold (BTG).
Operated by a website called mybtgwallet.com, the scheme led users to submit their private keys for generating Bitcoin Gold portfolios. Shortly after the users did this, however, the currencies contained in their wallets were sent to unknown addresses.
Just another reason that we should oppose to upcoming Forks and support and develop the classic Blockchain.

Of course there is no logical reason to support all these forked bitcoin clones, named bitcoin cash, gold, diamond whatever.

Only bitcoin matters.

IMHO just claim them safely and dump them for BTC!