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So I made x30 with Verge and Tron. Also made x20 with some other coins. I like to buy cheap and sell for a great price and I made a little fortune in only a few months.

Now I look at ETH. Its very high. Why people would buy it now? Before you ever make a dollar all the people that bought ETH for $5, $10 or even $0.25 will cash out their thousands of ETH. Its a classic pyramid scheme.

Is there any alternatives to ETH that are still cheap today? I really like Metaverse and its very, very cheap. They just hired more programmers too and are stepping up their game, so it might get really big. Is there any others than Metaverse that could be the next Neo or ETH?

Neo is not that bad at $150 even because I think it might grow as huge as ETH is now, so meaning it would get maybe to $1000. Thats not a huge profit if it works out, its *8. But its better than buying ETH at least.

Anyway.

Any good alternatives to NEO and ETH that are still cheap like Metaverse (its at 100m market cap)?

Can be from china or japan or any other country... THANKS!

Bitcoin was $1200 once.

Theres only 16 mil Bitcoins tho out now and ETH is already 96mil. Plus ETH is already at half of the market cap of Bitcoin. So to go x10 now for ETH it would need to be worth more than apple. Everyone can copy ETH tho .. do you think Apple would be worth 1 trillion if everyone could copy their phones? ETH does not hold true value, its a huge bubble at this price and the only ones praising ETH are those who bought ETH and want fools to buy it too so the price keeps rising for them. But at some point the price cant rise anymore.Also its much easier for a SMALL coin to double. But a GIANT coin as ETH has it very very hard to double. Do you even know how much money would have to go in ETH for it to double now?.....

NEO definitely is the better choice. Or if you want something really cheap then Metaverse. They might hold a risk too but its lower than the ETH risk because if ETH crashes so much money gets DESTROYED.

Any other promising coins with LOW market cap that have great teams and could get big as ETH/neo?

because ETH is a vetted project with strong fundamentals. do you think XVG will ever get the same legitimacy as ethereum? it's like investing in a penny stock vs. google. some people gamble, while others invest, learn the difference.

people buy only eth to invest in other ico not to keep eth. ETH is way to high and only benefitors are early adopters. Ive made xxxk this year and cashed out at 1k eth before he rose to 1.380k. I never hold once ETH as a store of value but as coin to x10-x100 my investment.

I never said XVG(Verge) is a good coin, tho some people do think the fundamentals are good. I did not buy it now (at its peak) but when it was really, really cheap. It was a very good investment because people love privacy coins and I got it extremely cheap (way before mcafee suggested it)

If you were an investor and would go in crypto now. You would be stupid to invest in ETH. Thats like the people who are last to join a bubble and lose everything. Everyone can copy ETH theres nothing proprietary. ETH does not even have patents. You could start a new coin tomorrow for $100k call it ETH2 and hire the best programmers and then you are suddenly worth $200 BILLION ? ...... Thats the reality of ETH... Its a bubble. Just because its a BIG bubble does not make it better or trustworthy. Its always the big companies who fail the hardest.

Sure everyone likes ETH. because they own some. And want it to grow. I have friends who bought ETH at $5 they love it! Of course!.. Who does not like free money ?

But again and again its those in crypto who GET IN EARLY who make fortunes. Who got Bitcoin early. Who got ETH early. Who got NEO early. Who got Metaverse early right now (if it ever explodes)... Or do you really think people buying bitcoin and eth now will get *50 gains?

Just see everyone who bought ETH before the crash. They all lost money. So if you only buy coins EARLY then you wont even care for a crash because by the time a crash  happens you already *30 your money. So what if it loses 20%? But those who buy at the peak ALWAYS lose. There is NOTHING to win for them but the prize of being the idiot of the day. Dislike to say but thats the harsh truth.

Hi. people said the same about bitcoin look where it is now. i think Ethereum has the most potential to be nr1 coin. also of ethereum fails all the tokens fail.


Cheers

There are two advantages of Ethereum (ETH).
1. It is relatively stable
2. You need ETH in order join almost any ICO.
So ETH will stay for some time.

People buy Ethereum not just for itself but more so to invest in all these ICOs where Ethereum
is the easiest to use for payment or in many cases, the only coin accepted. It will not go up as fast
as other smaller cap coins but then it has less risk too.

ETH is only here because we need it to participate in ICO or to be able to send ERC20 tokens. So everyone had some ETH.
The price is too much for what it is. It is slow and expensive when we need it. Only the first buyers are enjoying it.
If Bitcoin fall, every coins are going to fall as they all depend on Bitcoin price.

The dip is making this thread look a little dated.

What distinguishes ETH from NEO; ETH is mining. Mining requires a certain amount of economic power. The advantage of NEO is that it is POS and the fees are free.

And everyone forgot about that shit with DAO ? After Ethereum hard fork I lost confidence in that coin and in my mind it's dead. It does not deserve market cap it currently have. People should Invest in alternatives like NEO

ETH is really a good coin, which is convenient to use. I think that the cost of this coin is now low compared to what it can be in a few years. That's why today we need to think about the future and buy a few ETH.

Ethereum is one of the most of potential coin in crypto world and for sure it will increase the price again in the next few weeks.  Price of ethereum now is less than 1000 dollars because the price decreasing until now but I don't have worry to ethereum because I believe it will increase more the price of ethereum after dumping. So ethereum is good to invest and if you want to earn more profit you can buy more ethereum now this is the perfect time don't wait the price to decrease more because once the price increase it will continue for sure.

is eth a good price now?

Of course! After such a fall is now a sweet price, it is worth buying 40%, if there is another spurt down, then buy the rest!

eth will be more and more valuable but i will buy eth but i would expect different coins and i would expect to get more coins there and i have to wait for you guys to be patient and be nice coin

but how much can eth rise? can eth rise 5000% like other coins?

Some people are in it for the long term. Ethereum is trusted by many and will surely increase in price in the long term.

yeah you're such a genius muenze, everyone should listen to you lmao

sure its not a good idea to buy anything when it's toppy, but if you must fomo in on something it's best it's Eth. so whoever did buy at 1200 or more just hold and you will be more than fine soon enough. do not change it to whatever this guy is shilling

not the same but just for reference muenze also tried to save everyone from their free deeponions when it cost around a dollar, that was a real service you did ppl there lol. whats more cheap than free?

my friend get rich sell eth when eth had finish boost phase to buy neo below 20 cent now he go in waltonchain and metaverse because they still low but not long

1200$ will be cheap for Ethereum in 2019  8)

So an investor of 2 of the main shitty coins out there, XVG and TRON, giving advice xDDD

Seems legit.

if person make lots of money and take it home is he wrong? is the market wrong?

how much eth even grow in last 6 months? is it slowed down?

People asked the same questions when they were faced in 2017 with Bitcoin above $1000. Every step it took afterwards, people kept asking if it was too late. I can remember when it was $7000, people were calling buyers "stupid". But right now, even after a huge crash, it is unable to go below 10,000. Are all these people stupid now? No. What about those who bought at 15k and up? Are they stupid? No. We cannot tell yet. It has been nor even a month to give time to this crypto volatility.

Buying NEO at $150 or buying ETH at $1000 cannot be called smart or stupid. This is trading, this is speculating. No one can predict what will happen. Based on your theory, it is a hundred times better to buy DOGE.

Is ETH raise 12000 Dollar ? Is it possible ?

Buying now is not even ATH. Eth could easily touch 3k this year.

There is real uncertainity in market right now, so paying  $1200 is risky.

Who said that 1200$ is a high price lol
Wait some time and it will come ;)

Thats how crypto going high. If no body want to buy it at that price. The price will be never reach that mark. People saying this when bitcoin first time reach $1300 mark in 2013. Are they looked crazy now ? They are 10x their money now or when btc reach $18k days ago they make 15x. So i think people who bought eth at $1200 is very long term investor who willing to hold  for 4 years atleast. And those people really believe eth tech and its smart contract can scaling.

eth is solid tho , im rebuying it , tbh we're not here for such crazy gains, x2 / + 100%  per month is great , but just +20% a month is okay
 , why many expect x50 while its so illogical

good point. this is also my view towards the altcoin market.
i say if you are investing in this market you need to come clean with yourself and clarify what you want out of it. do you believe in the project you invest in and want to use it OR are you looking for a quick profit and to gain a lot of money out of this market?

i am sure majority of people who invest in altcoins are doing it for the profit not because they like the project. because if that were true they would have used it more not just leave their coins on exchanges or webwallets like MEW. run a node if you like it and come back to us after 2 weeks of struggling to sync ;)

and when you come clean with yourself and make up your mind, then you see things become so much easier. if you want profit then invest in what is most profitable. meaning smaller altcoins that are getting pumped. while ETH is struggling to rise 10% there are altcoins worth less than $1 rising 100%-500% at the same time with eve bigger volume.

You can catch the wave when eth is cheap like 900 and sell it now for 1064… No, now keep it more )) selling it for 1200 is fine

I think that for any good analyst(trader) stepping in this game of trading isn' problem. ETH for sure will go up ,their 4-years plan are starting to getting realised this year.
Investement in this sounds really good!

Did you even tried out to think that ETH would go the same path with Bitcoin? You are just saying that its a pyramid scheme because you wont able to get 100-1000x returns on a short period of time which is normal because value of it do increased already which we can presume making 10x would really be hard but i would say its still more worth to hold those kind of coins than on those coins which are being pumped only and cant able to sustain for long term.

No price is high for a good coin otherwise people investing in bitcoin are crazy too. Also Ethereum
is high in demand due to most ICOs requiring payment in it so ICO investors will buy it at any price.

I can see you are a still a newbie in investing and trading. ETH will keep raising as long as people use it for payments, ICOs and so on.

Sure is a good price ! . Just have a look on chart . Last year was around $7 and actually is $1200 going to $1500 this month.
By the way if you compare the price of ethereum in the end of year 2017 and the price of the beginning of year 2017 of bitcoin you will see that have same value . so we can see ethereum at $20.000 this year

you know there is other coins like eth with more feature and better price?

People have different wants and needs, some may decide to still buy coins at high prices because they think it is a safer investment and they are fine not getting that many profits, however you are right, if what you want is to obtain 10x, 20x or more then you need to look for good projects that are in the early stages, that is what I'm trying to do as well since most of my money is in bitcoin.

You should buy Tron, its only a few cents

and Verge, its also so damn cheap, can buy thousands of those instead of 1 ETH or so... Just saying.

And here, a Coin that is only a few cents AND there are only 400k coins out there: https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/ludum

Buy this, it will definitely give you the desired gains!!!


btw. I think your thought process is quite limited on the crypto topic. If youre after quick gains or meny % ROI, just trade short term with smaller coins, thats higher risk higher reward! Putting your money on ETH surely wont give you 500% gains withhin a week, but maybe withhin a year or 2 and therefore much more steady and safe than buying a shitcoin that is being hyped.

Anyway Im sure youre looking for the real deal that could get up there with NEo and ETH, but tbh, if we knew - we would all be rich soon, wouldnt we?


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btw. there are I think more than half of the top100 coins?! built on the ethereum platform, I am pretty sure this Coin has so much more potential, especially seeing the market grow at this monthly/yearly rate.

Yes Bitcoin, ETH are very slow to move now for many many month

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you are a scam my friend. you buy ETH for $5 and now want IDIOTS pay $1100 so your 1000 ETH increase in price. So many other coins have better product than ETH and work harder like Waltonchain, Metaverse and IOStoken

There youmake GUARANTEED x100 and with ETH you only MAYBE make x2 in 5 years if it does not go back to $300. What a joke. You are a scam, my friend. Only want your ETH bubble coins to increase so you can cash out big. And all who buy at $1100 lose everything they have. Think about it.

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I believe in ethereum, and now at the beginning of this year the ethereum has increased enough, maybe ethereum will continue, and now is the right time to buy ethereum.

Are you serious?

There was coins that went up 100 times in last 6 months. ETH and Bitcoin only went 2 times. So if you are in ETH you are only LOSING money every day. ETH is always same with bitcoin because ETH is a garbage shitcoin. You only lose money if you park your money in ETH beause ETH since 6 month barely move (yes 2 times but its NOTHING in crypto).

Do you think ETH can just collect hundrets of billions ?? its just too big already !!

But people are DUMB and buy losing eth with high risk. Who pay $1100 for 1 eth when others get it for $0.1 or $5 ? So stupid people who love THROWING AWAY MONEY to pyramid scheme.

Get Neo, Raiblocks, WTC, Metaverse and you are GUARANTEED to x100 your money, maybe more. With ETH you may lose all or if you are lucky you make x2 your money. High risk very low reward. Why many people dont get it ??? Or is it always people who got ETH for $1 and try to trick others to buy it at $1100 so price rises for their 100s of ETH?

ETH is dead, old horse way overpriced. Good luck on that.

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did these people not go to school, never learn about millionaires and how to win?

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"You only get rich buying CHEAP"

Here we have the classic situation risk versus reward.
You could hit a ICO with x30 price but you may not. While ETH is expensive but more secure.

I once used to think like that, back when Eth was at $9.

There are a lot more shitcoins to go trough when you are looking in the low marketcaps. For new people it is very hard to see what can become good and what not. So they are scared of being scammed. That is why a lot will just stay with top 10 marketcap coins. While i agree if you know what you are doing there is a lot more money to be made in low marketcap coins.

It's security. If I had a million dollars I would put it in Ethereum, while lower market cap, shit coins, it's a huge risk.

I fully agree with you, for a larger amount, shouldn't risk it..
Depends on the price demand and supply in the market price and $1200  -  it is not the limit!

I think the 1200$ still a cheap price for eth, people bought eth because it got potential to become more expensive in the future, people usually buy eth or BTC at high price because its already a stable coin, so they know that even the coin fall down it can bounce back, and it's a great advice to buy cheap and sell expensive, but not all the coin can be expensive

it is high for eth compare to its past.
but it will not get no higher? I doubt about that

You must be a little blind to the markets if you think BTC and ETH can still get x50

It is still cheap for people for people who are bullish about it and expect it to have a big bull run like btc had last year, anything is possible in crypto markets.

there are two types of rises and you need to decide which type you want to believe in and participate in.
1. a real solid rise based on real adoption of something that has real world applications. for example bitcoin is being used as a currency, its utility is a decentralized currency and because of that it will be adopted more and rise in value. if you believe the same thing can be true in anything else then invest in it. it doesn't matter if it goes up 10x or 10000x. what matters is that it will be going up for real and you will make a solid profit with a small chance.

2. a fake manipulative rise which is also known as a pump. in which case the said coin has no real utility, no real world usage and nothing interesting about it. this type of rise is only good if it is huge and fast and gives you the best profit. if you want to participate in this type then you should not lock your money in an altcoin that is not moving and is already in a bubble.

Eth is a fairly safe bet due to all the ICO and various tokens using it as a platform / payment.

OP is correct though, if you find the right new coin and get lucky $$$

Not all people here in crypto buy to get rich. For example I regularly love to increase my bitcoin and ethereum folia beause I believe they are going to be future's most used coins even after potential uber crash.

Ethereum is seen as a slow and steady investment, not a get rich quick coin. For some investors who like long term bonds eth is one of the best options. However, for faster returns it is a bad option as LISK and NEO and many other coins are likely to be quicker. Or if you're a gambler try your luck on an ICO!

People are having business with ETH at the moment they bought it. It likes you are hungry and you have to buy food to sastified your hunger. It works the same way with people who buy ETH at 1k2$ price.

You can buy some alts with great fundamentals like ethereum and wait a few year to get profit or you can also ride the waves with coin that get shilled a lot like verge and tron and earn a lot of money, it's up to you. I also ride the trx wave, i know it's only a whitepaper project since early december but why not? I earn a lot from that but i could've lost a lot if i didn't sell it. With ethereum the price is mostly stable so you don't fear a dump like the one happened to trx and xvg.

I think they pay such amount of money to buy Ethereum because it will increase possibly to btc current price, though it will take time. I believe in the idea to buy cheap, sell high. But then again, not so bad to invest at high price for higher price. To me its logic

Yes, the currently price of ethereum is a good time to buy and hold it for a long time. If you still remember what happened to bitcoin theres a chance that it can happen also to ethereum from 1,200$ today to $10k next year.

Your point does make sense in gains because if one invest in ETH they need to wait for months to get atleast 2X. Instead they can take some risk and invest in cheap coins or ICOs to grab multi fold returns. Higher risk can get you higher rewards. This is what I think.

"No one knows if the market is going to go up, down, or in a circle"

It's mainly because of fomo and people thinking that they are going to miss out. Also, BTC was worth a lot lower in the past, but now its above 10k.

I'm guessing ETH investors now are looking long-term, and I can't fault them for that because I think there's a good chance eth will be 10k, and btc 50k by the end of the year.

Verge and Tron are totally different coins. I agree ETH has not much potential because it found its value now but people hold ETH because it's strong now. Same people hold Bitcoin for similar reasons, not to make another 100x. It has the store of value purpose now.
If you want to make huge gains you should check out lower marketcap coins just like you said, Metaverse, might be the next big one. I don't heard much about it though.
I agree with your NEO pick. It has much more room to grow than ETH and BTC.

Manipulate, fake rumour and hype up news like the recent ETH fork. I know sound stupid but many newbies with little knowledge will be lure in.

Ethereum is widely accepted, NEO is china based which doesn't look good in the current situation with all of this bans and regulations.

interesting lesson i get here
but to do what OP said is too risky
if we want just trade with less profit, ETH can be a choices
low movement but safe is a good choices
join an ICO is risky if we dont know the basic knowledge

There should be balance here. I bought undervalued coins with good fundamental but also I bought more established ones as well.  I use Eth to purchasing ICO. I think eth will be just ordinary coin in the near future due to competition. I noticed lots of eth fanatics in the crypto world too, that might help a bit. I think most of top 200 coins today will be unpopular in the future.

Many people are forced to buy Ethereum, since this is almost the only way to participate in ICO projects.

In 2014 I bought BTC for $ 500 and many said I'm stupid. In 2016, I bought eth for $ 3 and people said I'm stupid.
and they were right. I was stupid ! I would have had to buy a lot more Crypto then I would have an island in the caribic

I will buy it too because I believe it will rise furthermore...

Unironically, I believe in ENG. it’s under the radar and gaining traction. Go do some research.

Well said. OP is probably correct that you won’t get ‘rich’ buying ETH at current prices compared to potential returns from well-selected more recent coins and ICO’s with lower market caps, although you won’t get poor either as you will with the many coins and ICO’s that are poor selections. OP is wrong however to be so disparaging towards ETH as though an increase in price is the only way to judge a coin, when as another poster noted about half the top 100 coins by market cap are built on ETH smart contracts and ETH is used extensively to transfer money and buy into most ICO’s and ETH has a great founder and Foundation and will steadily increase modestly in value.

For the record my guess for 2018 is to finish with about a $1.75 trillion Total Market Cap, with ETH up 2-3x at low risk and good coins like REQ XRB ARK Zcoin and WAVES up 10-20x at medium risk and like this year there will be coins and ICO’s up 100-1000x but at high risk to predict.

Ether is not that cheap what it was few months ago, Its quickly making its name in the market. Expect more high price soon.  ;D

ether potency is very high unlike other potentially low altcoins with little trustworthiness ,dont say like that I'm not a crazy buys without calculation well I bought eth at the time of $1,200 ,not the ugliness that I get just the delayed profit ,you can see ether has a special position in the community and the development team also does't remain silent to advance the ether

Who can know about the future ? That's why you have to pay 1k2$ for each ETH in case you don't want to spend more than that for each ETH in the future.

My friend if you bought ETH at $1200 then you need to end this madness now. Betting on a dead dog will never bring you luck. Have you researched the gold rush times? The dotcom bubble? The stockcrashes? Always those where the MASSES went in crashed the hardest. ALWAYS. While there still is many amazing cheap coins where you can easily double, triple, x10, x50 or even x1000 your money if you are lucky.

In ETH you now only have the DOWNSIDE but no upside. There is millions of people holding thousands, ten thousands, 100 thousands of ETH because they got them for $5 or $0.50 and they will ALL sell before you. How can you ever make a win? Just think about it. I just do not want you to lose any more money in overpriced shitcoins that have no real world value and where all future potential IS ALREADY IN THE EXTREMELY HIGH PRICE.

Only case I am wrong and you will x50 your money in ETH is if tomorrow USA, CHINA and EUROPE announce they cancel their currencies and switch to ETH. You think that will happen? Then stay in ETH! Good luck.

So there is 10.000s, 100.000s of people who got eth much cheaper than you..... Does this not bother people? Its the best way to destroy your precious, proud, lovely money warriors with this shitcoin that HALTS blockchain innovation.

The ETH Devs are lazy, why dont you guys go in promising new projects and with your money, give them the chance to do a better job than ETH and be one of the earliest investors and make x1000 your money so its happy and full of joy and you too?

Can split it over 5, 10 projects so you have small amounts in each, the giant profits will in any case be way more than anything ETH could ever give you now.

If the price of the entire market had not fallen, the friend who opened the door could be right. But in the end the entire market falls and the ETH nin falls normal.

Because ETH is a shitcoin. People dont trust it thats why it always falls with Bitcoin. If you want to get rich you need to find coins still cheap that have a real value and are not so extremely overpriced as ETH is.

eth will soon be pos, fyi

some people want safe picks, not risky 10x. is that so hard to understand? eth will give you much more gains than normal stocks would do

The people that paid $1200 for 1 Ethereum are not crazy, they are just here for the long game and I am very sure that they will make some nice profit in the next years if they have the skills to hold!

In ethereum it is worth investing for a long time. He will show his own possibilities in the future. From the current value of $ 1000 you can make x2 for the year (if the forecast is to come true in 3000-5000 $ for 2018). At the moment, due to the growing popularity of ICO projects (and they are all almost based on ethereum), there are all prerequisites for huge growth and potential.

why do you think after high jump the price will not grow up again?
you just betting over there
not investing your money
that's what i think after i read OP

People will pay more if the price of this coin goes up. Crypto currency is developing and becoming more expensive every day (excluding corrections ;D). And people are ready to invest in crypto big money in order to get even more money.

It does not matter how high the price of ethereum is. They will always be people who will buy on high prices. I buyed ethereum too on thousand dollars, because i needed to invest in an ico. As long as ethereum and bitcoin are the reserve currency, they will be sold at that high prices. And some people are already happy when they buy on ethereum at thousand and sell them at 1400. 400$ Profit is not nothing.

bitcoin was once 1 dollar , were the people that bought bitcoin at 1k crazy?  Jeez op is stupid.

Ya u can make more returns on lower marketcap coins buts its very risky and you can lose a ton of money.  Eth is a safe investment.

Yup. ETH can be considered shitcoin at this time and we should invest in altcoin with lower price and high potential, which will help investors to make better profits. My current advice is to invest in NEO because this is low altcoin in the crypto market

Exactly better for people who bought ETH in that current value to forget about their investment in order to earn, because looking now they will not be
happy as how the market fells most of the crypto's including btc really showing a big downfall making the market more unstable, ETH investors who
place their entry when the market is rising needs maybe another year or two to have 100% gains.

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Solarcoin sleeping giant.

After a crash (a real crash, lets say 90%) usually only the "real" products survive. Basically it gets back to classic methods of evaluating companies. I am not so sure ETH would be valued a lot in this as its so high now.....

But if you really want to protect yourself from a crash and government regulation, check out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818552.0

We can say ethereum is scheme when the price is not increasing. It's not being crazy when you buy ETH some are taking the opportunities to double there money on putting there money in a investment like this.

What happens is FOMO, most people don't know what to buy and when they see a price going going up they jump on the price action, another bad decision is that most of them don't even know when to take profit and they see their profit wiped out

I have also think along this line before but one thing that I have seen common is that most of the coins that has cheap prices are alway get dump  in a very high rate that most time clear one investment. I think coins with high market cap do withstand preasure from the market compared to those with lower market cap. Ethereum from  $10 this time last year to $1,078 as at this moment has done well and to me worth investment more than every other coins

yah but its only a good investment for you beause you paid $10. its not a good investment for those who buy it for $1400 a few days ago. it has no room to grow now.

something as SPACECHAIN will go x10 immediately when the whitepaper releases, the partnerships, the new exchanges, that tim draper is in it (spacex, skype) and the others. so people think ETH is safe but really its not. Spacechain is safe.

Same for waltonchain. its at almost a billion dollar now, but its still pretty low to many coins that are higher. because they have a good team too and patents.

It depends entirely on your time scame. Sure Verge and Tron might have made you profits - IF you cashed out.

But ultimately it is about sustainable percentage profits. Long term ETH has potential. Verge and Tron not so much (if you are still holding these last two you are a candidate to be a bagholder).

most of new coin just out from developer brainstorm room is offered for sale in ethereum in the form of token sale, so owning ethereum now guarantee you much better price when you need to buy the cheapest coin you expected to go up in price later on

You should check connectx this people is in space business for very long time already, they already have very good plan of how they will monetize their satellite constellation, not only for space storage but there is commodity trading platform already planned and worked out for their system once it is going live

Thanks, I check it out but its a little different. SpaceChain is a FOUNDATION like eth. They aim to work together with all space companies and bring space exploration, technology forward. That along with Tim Draper in the TEAM. They have very strong partners too.

Your project sounds like an interesting idea but also very risky.

That's the risk of crypto currency investment, sometimes the cheap coin even run for scam , it's not something new and people looking for a better offer. Ethereum with big market capitalization makes them feel it's secure to invest there and get some profit even not for *8 *20 or so, that's the reason.

I dont think many coins would still run for a scam in 2018. They can collect so much money nowadays being legit... there is no reason anymore for a scam. If they run, they wont collect anymore funds. If they stay, they make a lot more money. Some may be very lazy yes. Or incompetent. But scams? I am pretty sure some coins we see now that are going kinda well may have started as scam but people realized "why run?"

It was different in begin of 2017, 2016 when most coins had no millions like they have now.

Anyway, for ETH... Its an illusion its safe because its big..... If there ever is a crash of 90% then ETH will get valued at what its REALLY worth..... without all the people shilling for it... Without all the "experts" who want to push the price higher..........

I dont think you'll only earn big profits. If some are paying $1200  for eth its because they believe its price would soar more. But you are also correct in saying that one should get rich in investing in cheap coins specially if you chose the potential alts. It will depend on your strategies and of course if you do your research well to determine which alts are really worth investing.

Ethereum has an advantage of far more adoption than any of it's competitors, like Stratis, Waves, or EOS.  I think that it will continue to lead the pack for some time.  However, the best money in my opinion comes from low market cap ALTS with potential.  

we only need the eth to participate in some ico and we use eth so that we can send some token in exchange. but if you want to invest in earn profit also.. but i dont think that you can earn big profit from eth.. you are right that one should get rich in investing in some cheap coins. but it depends in you plan or in your strategies. You need to research about what token or coin you can get or earn big profit and then observe what token has a good potentials to pump up.

i think people can still make a fortune if they find the next eth. metaverse by a neo founder is still quite cheap

Exactly. But many people dismiss the fact that only the early BTC,ETH investors got rich. Not those who buy the bubble. Now its those getting rich who bought Neo, Raiblocks.. and soon it will be those who bought the coins that are now cheap.

yeah but do we even need so many ico? many of the eth icos are just useless

it can be much better if eth just disappears and new startups have to make their own blockchain and bring real innovation. eth is killing innovation and crypto as a whole.

Point is that you have to diversify portfolio.

Global market cap is still a water drop compared to Stocks (NASDAQ) etc.
Therefore, there is space to grow for everybody, but it's pretty clear that sooner or later market is gonna operate a natural selection: too many coins, too many useless projects, too many ICOs.
You can't bet all of your cash on huge potential grows, you have to split it on stable, less remarkable potential grow coins, but it can be safer.
ETH, BTC are that kind of products.
And fundamental is to take profit and convert it in FIAT from time to time to decrease your exposure level and be possible ready to invest more when strong dips happen.

well paying 1200$ for one eth is not making them stupid because ETH is the 2nd best coin out there and many crypto geeks expect value of 2000$ for eth buy the end of 2018. it is hard to predict anything but eth really has a healthy team and technology.....would say they are on the right path.

I agree with you. Eth has a great roadmap laid out and its technology is being conaidered now by legitimate companies. And you don't necessarily have to but a whole eth to invest. Any amount invested in etherium would one day be well worth it for its investors

Proofs of such strong claims would be appreciated. And, as for eth-like cheap coin, I think eos is the best one. Pretty much like eth, just has some improvements, good team and a huge marketcap already.
As a lot of coins are traded to eth, it might be a good coin to keep for those purposes. However,  I didn't get this min token sale prices if you have eth. And besides, one can always lose eth due to some bug reason, so I am trying to stay away from this coin.

any amount invested in eth is dead capital when you can invest in new projects that can still go x10, x20 or even x50, x100 if you are lucky. crypto is not the stock market where the biggest are the best. this is an evolving market and eth technology will be replaced some day by better technology.

If people are confident that Ethereum will reach more than 1200 USD why wouldn't they buy from 1200 USD? It might be a short term 1200 to 1500 gain or long term 1200 to 10000. If you know about your investment you can take the risk. There is no rule that you only make money with small marketcap coins.

did you hack the account or are you for real?

you realize a $100m market cap coin will grow 1000 times more easy than eth?

I could see ETH at 5k to 7k by the end of 2018.

Alternately, NEO could be 1k to 1.5k by the end of 2018.

ETH probably wont appreciate as fast as some alt coins, but ETH is relatively stable and I believe will increase over the course of the year.

What are you talking about newbie? Can you even read?

If I know Ethereum will go to 1500 USD next week I can buy shitload of ETH with my money. I'm not a small fish like you. %25 guaranteed profit is great for me. ;)

well it looks like you are new to crypto because nothing in crypto is guaranteed. so you probably purchased the bitcointalk account from someone. this usually happens after accounts get hacked.

i invested in early in many very promising projects and was very, very lucky so i know i would have only lost money in eth. as eth only has the risk of the bubble popping but no upside of making x10, x20 or even x50 as smaller projects.

edit: and yes your account is hacked because the original owner never even made any posts in english... and you never made any in his language.... óf course now you will tell us some excuse like that you suddenly forgot your native language after a long coma...

At the end it depends on what you are looking, some are looking to make fortunes with crypto but some other are just looking for better returns than the ones the stock market can give, the stock market can give something between 6 to 10 percent per year and bitcoin and ethereum give way better returns than that, so that may be enough for them since they are not willing to take greater risks.

I thought of this as well.  I mean if you want to 5x, you need ETH to 5x itself etc.

yeah i can understand your point. but the risk part makes no sense at all. everyone who bought bitcoin at $20k or eth recently at $1400 only lost money. even mcdonalds makes more money. so does amazon. those are established companies and have very low risk. eth is somewhat established but in an always changing, developing market where every day new, better technologies than eth can come out. its the highest risk in such a market to go into the expensive projects as dotcom bubble has proven. thats where 95% of the value can get taken out.

there is many small, low cap coins now where you basically have a guaranteed return of x2, x3, x5, i mean many icos already make that, PLUS you have the upside of being able to make x50,x100 or even x1000 if you are really lucky and early. with almost no risks of losing everything as in eth.

I agree , almost all ICO is using ETH for payment that's why it will raise high, i wouldn't be surprise if it reaches 2k$ next yr. ETH is one of the trusted coin and you can really be rich if you invest it long enough.

not all ico's uses etherium because some ico do also use waves and other types of platform under their coins/tokens but majority of them are still erc20 under etherium , thats why etherium can possibly pump because of these although it could take a lot of time due to the fact that eth growth is kinda bit slower when compared to bitcoin despite its demand that it gets from the public however eth is kinda stable and seems substantial in the long run.

I agree that. People buying $20000 worth bitcoin was as crazy too. I kept warning people that its crazy to buy around these points for high profits. So this kind of people crashed the market after seeing -%xx reds.

That is the issue, yes you can make a lot more money with icos and with cheap altcoins but the risk the coins go to zero is quite high, more than 90% of the blockchain projects fail in less than a year, ETH may be down right now and the same is true for any major coin but the chances it goes to zero is very low compared to a new project that is why the risk is lesser than with the other altcoins.

the risk of ETH going to zero is much greater than some small altcoin going to zero. times have changed and now any small project will usually get thrown millions of dollar at. this was different a year, two years ago when they were all struggeling.

so now its a very small chance for a small project to go to zero just because they have so much money. why should they leave, scam people or quit? where else can they make so much money?

having vitalik butin be worth $100bn is the insane stuff here, many smaller devs still arent worth $1m... you realize the difference? of course not everyone will deliver something great but same can be said about vitalik, now he seems to mostly give his money away instead of working hard.

Vitalik is not really doing anything special. he stole the idea which was already around and built something around it which is full of issues. you know he was pushing to build it on bitcoin but thankfully he was shut down. and the only reason he is worth whatever billion dollar is because he premined the shit out of ethereum!

i fear for the future of it though. it is hyped up and it seems to have little chance of going down (despite what you said) but it has lots of issues as i said and with things like Rootstock (which is practically going to do what ethereum does but for free and on top of bitcoin) it will lose its place!

rootstock seems interesting, are they making good progress? can the tokens be generated, mined or bought already?

It is not a classic pyramid scheme. It is a very good period for crypto and don't think that you will get gains like this forever. There are many types of investors. From small er ones like you and me to big ones. If you invest 1 billion dollars it would be ok to make 2 more billions dollars. Multiplying Bitcoins make some rich people very rich now. So investing in Ethereum is still a good investment. If you had a 100 million dollars what would you do?

Well, it's a trusted coin. Won't give you x100 profit, won't give you x100 loss.

The choice is yours. Just don't call people crazy for thinking a bit about their investments.

ETH is a form of payment, I believe plenty of people buys ETH to invest into ICOs. So not all of them are crazy to do that, as its not the purpose of their actions to ETH to go up significantly.
ICOs do pretty much the same you want your currencies for. So I would say no, they are not all crazy.

It looks like ETH is pretty much some old horse still running the race. People should just let die and make room for the new.

Its odd you say "think". If you always put your money where everyone goes you are sure to lose. Why do you think only such few 0,% of the world are filthy rich? Its because they created/found new markets and conquered them. ETH is a dead, old horse.

Ethereum valuation is quite correlated to BTC, so do almost all the crypto. People just buying on FOMO. When the market dump, 99% of the people got freaked out. The current market is a testing time. Only those that believe in crypto and blockchain will be rich.

he people who bought Ethereum are far from crazy people. Such people are very far-sighted and know that their investments will pay off many times, regardless of the purchase price. You just invest with a high risk of loss, and they are with the moderate.

I think Eth and Bitcoin has a very unique status having been recognized not to be securities unlike a lot of the crypto projects out there. And now is a fairly decent time to purchase eth, the premier blockchain platforms will go as high as $1 trillion when the market goes mainstream

Ethereum is not going to die, however I agree when you say the price is very high even at the current prices I will not buy ethereum, if your goals are to earn a lot of money not a single of the top coins should be in your radar and you should invest most of your money in coins below the top 100 in terms of market cap, that is a risky play but one that can give great benefits if you invest early in a coin.

yeah not only ethereum, i think all the crypto valuation is correlated to BTC. today BTC price is fall, and yea ethereum is also fall. but i hear about the system upgrade fo ethereum in the near future. these news will make eth price pump again ;)

That was before, now if paying $ 1200 to ETH probably will not happen, the ETH price is less than $ 500. And you can buy them anywhere with cheap rates.

I do not think you should call them crazy because you bought at a lower price, they never knew the price will dip this much any time soon. Yes it is always more profitable to buy when the price is very low but it was not their fault that crypto market dip this much.

Not everyone can take risks on pumps or little-known coins, and the profit on them can be felt only with a good number. Therefore, choose a win option and wait for better times and, in principle, it pays for itself. So everyone has his own opinion and strategy.

If they did not know the price could go lower despite the fact the price of ethereum was very high and there were very clear signs that we were in the middle of a bubble then I think it is fair to call them crazy, buying ethereum at those prices was insane and only those that did not had any experience can excuse themselves for their mistakes because the rest of the community should have known better since they have more time and more experience in this market.

deciding with older data is really easy. once upon a time my mentor on university told me analysis or statistics looks like a bikini; you think that you see everything.. but you will never see what you want to

If people would of only listened then they would be buying 3 times cheaper over the last couple of months

Perhaps you are right, but still do not buy some unique items, expects further decline, then to use the situation there for purchase. But I think that this will not happen. Only the moon.

Well this post aged pretty well, ETH is just around 400 dollars now!
ETH will always be necessary for several things, so don't worry too much. Look at ETH as the gateway into new projects.
If you've got extra eth laying around i would absolutely look into some awesome ICOs like these.

OPP Open Wifi is a community-driven service with the sole purpose of creating a global, free to access open WiFi hotspot network and rewarding each contributor for being a part of their cause.

Daostack IO powers decentralized companies, funds and markets to make fast and innovative decisions at scale. Basically an operating system for collective intelligence.

Deedcoin is a cryptocurrency that will simplify real estate. Deedcoin customers use DEED to decide what to pay in commission costs when purchasing or selling a home, lowering the traditional 6% fee to 1%.

No crazy, Ethereum $1,200 is normal, and the future price of Ethereum is definitely over $2,000. You are too worried that you need a long-term vision.

For me I don't normally buy coins when the price is already jumping high, I normally buy coins when the price is in the dip and everyone is afraid to buy, and i think now is another time for people who are risky takers to buy some eth and hold for it to go up to 1k plus again.

we live in brainwashed times where people only read what makes them feel good, even when its a lie.

:D :D and now is only 200$, but here is nothing bad, market will recover soon

This market currently gives you the great option to buy coins that are extremely undervalued. I dont think ETH is one of them.

i see $178 on Coinmarketcap. Maybe it'll go down to $150. Anything's possible. at $160 i will start to buy again. think this is a good time . but you never know what the market is doing later

Yea 1200$ at January was really crazy price, now Eth costs 180$ and nobody purchase it, what's unpridictable crypto world))

I'm sure that this is a real price for the Ethereum. But we will wait for a long time before this happens.

I think eth reached the bottom yesterday and now we are right on track for the reversal, i hope people who bought expensive eth in january will break even soon as strong bulls are expected to remain in the market now.

You still probably wont get rich from ETH because for the 100.000s of people who got ETH for under $10 its still payday every day.

There is some good projects that are really cheap now, I dont know why you would waste your time with ETH. Look for the next eth! So you can be one of those giant bag holders then.

Neo is good but the main disadvantage is that it is very centralized. But on another side, there is a big advantage for NEO holders: Hold NEO, Get GAS for free!

So I want to bring this old topic up, remember when ETH was $1200 and Bitcoin was $15000? Now Bitcoin is $32000 and ETH is only $1000.

Meanwhile I have made x50 and more on some smaller coins. ETH was good when you bought it for $10. Now you need small projects for massive gains. Something will replace ETH and it still isnt even decided if dApps ever will be a huge market anyways.

So something as Nano seems like a way better investment because it can easily go x20 from just a few on Wallstreet seeing its potential.

What are these other coins you made 50x on?

Many. Most recent was AAVE, I bought when it was still ETHlend.

You will also lose some buying cheap coins but you will NEVER even get x20 on ETH not even x3. And even if x3 in that time many many other coins will be x10 and more.

wow you had a great investment, not everyone can make x20 x10 on the initial investment, i'm unlucky that the projects that i join have a pretty low and high ROI the most I have ever had is 10x, but looking at the market right now I have the same mindset as you and I think maybe we'll come back to 50x.  ;)

This is not a crazy bet who are buying Ethereum now even at $1000 or $1200 because this coin is also like Bitcoin which will definitely grow with the synchronization of Bitcoin. Look at the date back in the previous year when ETH price touched its lowest to $150. If you were bought in this level now which is less than a year you must have accrued 8x times of value. I don't say that cheap coins are not legit but you should evaluate them before buying this coin.

But its riskier compared to ETH. I mean altcoin is only good for short term investments ,once you earn enough you should leave it or else you will lose your profit for trusting too much in a project. even ETH decrease its value more than 90% so what else from other altcoins? This is only good if you bought it cheaper but if not always take profit and do not fall in love with a coins hoping to become the same as other altcoins .

I don't think that people are trying to make 20-30x with Ether as you did with TRON and others. I think people are viewing Ether as a safe heaven for altcoins.

If you want to make 20-30x, you should look after the new coins.

Most of us feel very uncomfortable buying one coin at such a price. We are happy to see our wallets filled with thousands of coins which might never go above x3 in years. I believe that investing in high valued coins like BTC and ETH pays a lot in the long term. Let us look at a sample investment of $5000 in BTC at $1200 and $5000 in ETH at $50 in March 2017 to date.
$5000 would have given you 4.17BTC against 100 ETH. Assuming you were selling today, 4.17BTC will give you  $141,204 whiles 100ETH gives you $109,274. A very huge difference of $31,930 in favor of Bitcoin.
from this analysis, if not for coins which can easily go x30 plus, I will stick with the big ones.

Well, see Nano.

It was $1 just a few days ago. Now its $4.

So when will ETH be $4000? Lol.

I mean it can happen. Maybe ETH will go to $4000 this year. But then Nano will be $20 or even $30 so with Nano you made 5 times more.

I think alot of people in crypto just are extremely bad at math and dont understand market cap.

Why would you invest in things that are already extremely expensive when theres only a very small upside?

Its never the 99% of lemmings who all follow the same horn who get to paradise....

People are afraid of losing their money in bad blockchains and scam projects (which happens A LOT). So they prefer to be conservative and go for slower moving coins like BTC and ETH. The people that come from traditional markets also fear fast moving coins like Nano.

That's why they keep investing in ETH but not Nano. You can replace"Nano" in my sentence with any altcoin, except LTC, XRP and BCH.

This kind of selection is just like on doing pure gambling. Most of these coins reaches out 50-100x are to those low cap coins.Its a do or die kind of situation where you do just crossed your fingers for it to get pumped.

Back on topic since this one is an old one which do talks about ETH on 1200 then they had already experienced on getting break even at the moment if they do managed to held up that long.

Currently, altcoins are starting to move now if we do look up the situation of the market.For those who had bought cheap while alts are still on sleep are reaping off some gains now.

He may be a small player, big money follow big coins. BTC and ETH are supreme leaders in crypto business.
When you put millions of dollars into small coins you broke balance and your entry point would be much higher due to low volume. There isn't any risk like that in billion dollar crypto currencies.

Well, yeah nobody is putting millions in small coins.

But if you think theres no risk in Bitcoin or ETH, Bitcoin is safer it still dropped to ~ $3500 last crash but ETH was even worse it dropped to $50.

So if you are a professional investor, why in hell would you ever risk millions in ETH when it can turn 1 million into 50k?

There is always risk in investment and you should cash out when you see bear market because those markets take 2-3 years. There are better options, it's pointless if you buy at the top and wait whole bear market while holding coins.

If you do stop-loss you would never turn your million to 50k. It's a standard for every investment, not just for ETH.
Long term traders don't care about daily prices. They already bought coins from dip, when everybody else is hopelessly selling.

Just be Happy on what you are achieving while ETH believers has still on their faith if what would Ethereum may bring them, I remember that for years now When ETH was still struggling to reach 10% of Bitcoin price and up to now this wasn't happening .
How long will be the ETH supporters keep this belief ? or they are the one whos changing plans now.

that makes sense and i have been buying nano before the pump and got nice ROI from my nano after i have sold it.
People are taking the reputation of coin but they forget if they can make more money from the legit altcoins that are still undervalued. I know what you meant that people should try to think to invest in the legit con that is not yet pumped.

really ? what about those people that bought eth when it eth was only a dollar or two ? i bet those people made more than times 20 now and it was easy for eth or for eth investors to get times three because it wasnt that high or far too achieved  .

really ? now telll me if what are those coins  . i cant see any altcoin pump that much except etherium  . we arent forced to buy eth or any other coins at a higher price and the reason why someone buys at a high price is maybe because they are richier than you and they are smart enough to know that the coin that they are invested with will grow more in the future  .

You can buy ethereum at 1200 dollars, people said the same thing back in the day and it peaked at 1.5k, and they profited. What I think ETH will be this run is about 3k dollars per ETH, which is why I still think anyone who wants to buy would make a decent return, in fact if you stake it, you are going to make even more money as well and I would advise it for everyone, you can put a sale on 3k later on when staking could be stopped.

All in all ETH is the biggest altcoin out there, and increasing price doesn't mean you should stop buying, if you stop buying that means it will not go any higher, whereas people who end up buying from here, makes it profitable. Obviously you should try to buy from lower levels, if you go in hard when its cheap, it is a reasonable move, but that doesn't mean its the only time you should buy, you can buy at any price.

that is because buying cheap works. you are not buying eth cheap now. i have made x50 and more on over 20 coins but the only way this works is buying early. not buying expensive coins now

i am not sure about your math skills if you think someone buying eth for $1 made x20. its x1200

It's been three years since the thread was made and there's truth in what he said about Ethereum. While the discussion is about $1200, Ethereum as it pumps again didn't passed on its past ATH.
And today's price of is even less than the price that was indicated on this thread.

Buying cheap works for speculators but if you're really considering yourself to be a long-term investor, then price is not something significant that makes you decide your entry levels. Ask those Bitcoiners who thought 10k was too expensive, waiting for 5k dips. Or those who thought 20k was too expensive. Price for BTC isn't looking back anymore;)

Consider yourself lucky if you have bought your ETH at its lowest price like below $100. People buying Eth for $1200  still think its early because they are also speculating ETH could be much worth soon.

Everybody wants to get early investors price so if you need to find one and wait til its price is $1200 there are many tokens that can potentially go to the moon as well.

I think it is too risky to buy eth at $ 1200 now, because it could be that the eth price is corrected and if that happens, of course the experience in 2017 will repeat itself, when eth prices continued to soar high at that time but finally fell instantly and not a few traders who experience losses by buying and holding eth prices at a high enough price, learning from past experience, of course I personally don't try to buy eth at current prices but I would prefer with trade and hold several other small altcoins that I think can provide a little profit at regular intervals.

OP, what other coins would you recommend now to buy?  I agree with your logic that buying eth now is not going to make you that much returns... like try getting 5x... that isn't going to happen with ETH in a long time.  Even doubling it is hard.  Doing it with altcoin much easier but of course but riskier.

That's the usual reaction when a coin goes into high price. The FOMO will be found everywhere as if the trend will never stop and those who have bought at high of $1k-$1.4k price of Ethereum probably have sold at loss. They can't contain the pressure and they have to stop loss and that's the usual mistake of investors especially the newbie investors.

Stop Loss is something that investor need to do, its better to lost some than lost it all, isnt it? and maybe the one that do that already buy more when the Ethereum price lower, so they minimize their lost.
So in my opinion stop lost isnt a mistake, its part of investment strategy.

But that stopping of further loss has different situation for many of them. Some were good to stop loss before it has finally crashed until the end of that year.
And some did just stopped loss when it's finally a total loss for them and that has finally decided them to end the game which is very unfortunate.

30 years can pass and it will not change the truths that was said,,, nor will it change how right or wrong OP was about Ethereum. Same as Bitcoin 10 years ago when people today are saying it is wrong as a P2P currency. It always was and always will be.

Price is not everything,,,

There can be a lot of things that have changed by that year. It's unpredictable and year after year there will be something new that we'll see. But at least for the devs if they remain to be stagnant but for Ethereum, it's starting to change with its implementation of 2.0.
Price is important though.

Exactly, glad we understand us :)

But I think its very hard to find good projects. Of course theres DOT and LINK and all but theres so many people in it long before you.

Today Coinmarketcap listed KOINOS and its still quite cheap. Its got a very interesting whitepaper and a good team. They know what they are doing and have good blockchain experience. They are trying to make an ETH killer. I can see this rise by alot and its still just a few cents currently with no Venture Capital involved.

Price point is something which everyone will differ but one thing I understood that you need to continue holding ETH in your portfolio. Just like we need to have bitcoin in same way in altcoins ETH is a must. It could even give some surprising results by growing 2x then the current price. Though it will depend how much does bitcoin continue to grow, but ETH will grow as bitcoin continues to rise.

There is a reason only 1% get financially independant in Crypto. Because the 99% buy expensive projects. See Bitcoin now wallstreet has basically ruined it buying 10000s of Bitcoins OFF EXCHANGES so the price stays low. When they would buy on exchanges bitcoin would already be $50k or $80k or more. And then other billionaires sell ON exchanges to make Bitcoin crash because they make a great profit and the 99% of stupid capital will start get scared and sell too and then the billionaires can rebuy Bitcoin cheap and always make profit and rich get always richer and poor get always poorer.

The only chance we in crypto now have is support new great ideas. Buy coins that are still low like at $1m market cap. Be all invested in them before the billionaires get in.

Like KoinOS (ETH killer) or Banano (like Nano but still cheap and more fun)

After 3 years Ethereum still in that  range of value lol , and Yeah i think people who bought Ethereum bellow 100$ recently as they are the winner on this part.

But those who bought 12 hundred back in 2018 ?  they maybe took this long just to recover their capitals .

That' why my Views in investing is it doesn't matter if the coin i will buy will take time to climb High as long as the price is one of the cheapest and i only risk small capital even if this took me Years to wait.

That's why we need to search the best coin to invest .Remember eth is always the top altcoin and i think a lots of way still to go .The price is still reachable to get i think the price will grow more on the upcoming days .I am still buying eth and holding my asset for long time .

What about those people who bought ETH before you for 25 cents?

They have millions of ETH. How many ETH do you have?

Why not do it like them and invest in cheap project EARLY?

If you want guarantee buy Apple Stock ! It can crash hard too tho like ETH.

Why not be cheap? Why be like 99% of people buying always high and staying poor?

It doesnt make any sense at all to buy ETH now for $1200. It can crash to $80 again or in the best case go to $3000 maybe. But if ETH goes to $3000 you will have other coins go to $80000 (in relation to market cap).

So you only lose with ETH.

At least I bought Ethereum for another $ 86, and so even today I can sell quite profitably. But my enthusiasm does not allow me to do this, because I am confident in higher results even this year. of course, the fact that during this period prices in the cryptocurrency market fell, this is just another correction, which also happened in 2016 and 2017, where cryptocurrencies on their way to their historical maximum fell to 30%.

why lose ? if we comparing from now price $3000 is more than x2.5 right ?
i think this is a good return on investments, because for me ethereum is the best altcoins to hold for now

It depends upon when you entered the market. I am too much involved in the altcoin market for a very long time and i was mining and most of the coins i converted to coins i wanted to hold for the long term and ETH is one of them, i have booked my profit along the way and i have sold a good amount recently when it touched the $1k valuation simply because i was holding a portion which i was planning to sell for a long time and i wanted to diversify it to something else until we have a major correction again.

most users use eth as their transaction tool, even though we all know that the costs involved are very large. I think this is a natural thing as demand for eth is currently increasing

Its becaused the developer mostly used Ethereum blockchain as the platform for their project and Ethereum blockchain not good enough to handle that. I hope ETH 2.0 can handle that issue and make the Ethereum more valuable unless someday it will stucked and not used anymore because high fees and slow transaction issue.

I am liking ETH more now with Uniswap. But the fees are insane. $40 for a transaction is just absolutely nuts.

I hope uniswap bring their own blockchain then ETH will die because nobody needs eth with $40 transactions.

Just go and buy KoinOS it will be x100 your money. So for every $1000 you put in you get $100k. Thats the only
real way to make money in crypto. Not buy expensive shitcoins like ETH with insane transaction fees for tokens.

For ethereum, the $ 1200 price tag isn't that high. Even now, the price of this coin today has risen more than $ 1400 and this is far from the limit. Ethereum is criticized by many for its high transaction fees, however this is a temporary problem, this coin is already being updated and soon we will see a brand new ethereum with high throughput and low transaction fees. Therefore, I keep this coin and hope that its price will soon rise to several thousand dollars.

But dont you think if ETH goes from $166 to $3000 one day (which is not guaranteed) other projects in this
time will go from $0.03 to $0.15 and $0.50 and more? Which you think is better?

People who bought ETH at 1200 USD are now laughing to this thread. Current ETH price is over 1700 USD and it looks like this is not even the top yet.
There are better options to transfer money cheaper, like BNB, TRX or even DOGE and XRP. But if you compare them investment wise ETH looks stronger.
I think it's time to lock this thread anyway, as you can see all answers become generic now.

how many people bought eth at 1.2k i can say not many and how much eth they bought ? id say  less than 1 or 1 at max and they are laughing with their small profit? i dont think thats too much to boast like and not worth the risk but they are lucky that they didnt loose  .

 eth at over 1k is already its top and i think it wont go higher than that

comparing eth to them is like comparing btc  .

 eth is more chunkier and its not fair but eth works good for money transfers before but now it has been fucked up

but it seems that even though ETH has surpassed ATH, it looks like there will be another renewable ATH because it looks like bitcoin continues to attract ETH to also want to move up. but the problem fee for ETH gas is still not finished and there is no other way to exchange it to XRP so that the fee is rather cheap and reasonable. It is not known why ethereum is now changing this will have many people looking for alternatives.
It is unfortunate that the sharp increase has been accompanied by an increase in gas fees.

Uniswap fees are too much high  >:(
Sometimes i need to buy small quantity of a token from uniswap and i quit my idea only because of so insane fee. I think soon people will stop using uniswap if they do not find a way to control the high fees.

Define "cheap"...
If something went from 1$ to 1500$
Then yea it was cheap at 1 compared to 1500.
But people once also said, that the price of bitcoin wouldnt ever cross 10$, and that it was all a scam to steal peoples money...

In my opinion, investing in crypto is very different from other assets, because crypto price movements are very volatile. Sometimes buying coins
at a high price does not mean you will lose money, because the price of these coins may continue to rise. Same thing happened to Ethereum,
its price has continued to rise until now. So for those who bought Ethereum at the price of $ 1200, now have got a sizeable profit.

Bought some Koinos ? Let’s get rich baby ! 10000 koinos , if it reach 100 I will be a millionaire.
What is you guys opinion on metaverse now?

haha, it's true. I actually didn't expect the price to go up this high for this bullrun this time. bnb, and tron ​​are great for the long term, and I believe that as the OP said, coins like NEO and Avalanche have as much potential as ethereum considering they offer almost the same product

Metaverse is confusing even for me now I think they switched mainnets or something
several times?

The Metaverse CEO seemed well connected back then but somehow I think he may not
have had what it takes to start a huge company, or he just missed out on some opportunities
and luck.

Their main product was a digital identity. I to this day still dont understand what this
actually means and why I would need one.

But I havent done any research about them recently. Should I?

If you are looking for complete bets you could also again buy Waltonchain. Its very low
and I have had luck in the past since it used to always come back a little bit at least to
make easy x3 or x5. Maybe not this time tho, I dont know.

For those who waited, after 3 years, they got their rewards. But I believe a lot of them already sold their eth. Very few can wait this long and hoped that one day, eth will hit more than $1200, the price where they bought. But for some who really did wait, big congratulations! It seems that eth is still going up as they haven't fully launched eth 2.0 and they are already enjoying this good performance in the market.

and those who bought at the price of 1200$ yesterday, have now made a profit of more than 600$ due to ethereum flying high. For people who think they are stupid buying at high prices, I think he doesn't know how to invest properly. as long as the trend is still showing bulls, buying is not a wrong choice.

Bought Avalanche for $1200 when ETH was $1200 and you now have $4800 ;)

And I think Avalanche still can go x10. Try that with ETH!

Riding with the train really paid well, there are people who knows when to invest and they are gaining good amount of money out from this so called crazyness.

They've manifested from the current trend and with good knowledge when to release their holdings they'll make good amount of profits.
Sometimes being crazy pays you a good amount of profits.

Sometimes people underestimate the impending increase, when that person believes and buys at a high price ($ 1200) is said to be too stupid to buy at a high price.
at this time they are surprised because even by buying at a high price it can still be profitable, if we believe that the price will continue to increase why be afraid.

I agree with your opinion that as long as the trend is still showing bulls, it is clear buying is not wrong and it can be proven. when the price finally rises above $ 1800 +, he makes a profit of $ 600.

survivors who have benefited from the courage to take a stand to continue with the conviction they have and remain patient and do not panic when they are about to have an execution.
because ethereum has the potential to continue to increase this year, which is estimated to be the year of altcoin.

That is the funny part that everyone can see right now and that is why people keep investing. OP basically told people who bought at 1200 dollars crazy, he meant stupid as well but couldn't say that, and now it is 50% higher. That is literally 50% more profit in a month, how could anyone not be happy about that? So this shows that no matter how "high" you think ethereum is, you could always make more money with it as long as it continues to go up.

If one day price reaches to 2700 dollar levels, which I think is not that hard to achieve at this point, that would still be another 50% profit even if you buy today. So as long as we believe it will go up, we should probably keep on buying more and more of it as well. Of course it is not going to be simple to be a holder when you buy at the top all time high price, but as long as you believe in it, there is still a chance.

For some people it is expensive to buy Ethereum at 1800$ but if you see eth price over 2500$ in few months, then you will consider 1800$ price cheap.

Think of it in another way, when Eth was 1200$, many people would not buy it considering it is expensive but those all people will buy bags of eth at 1200$ now because 1200$ seems so cheap now.

At the present price, we can't call them crazy as they can sell that $1200 per ETH for a profit.

The thing is, we have to understand that we are investing for the future and what we are looking in the future is the adoption, and as adoption increases, you know what would happen to your investment.

ETH is like bitcoin, look at bitcoin now, it's already at $47k, and I believe there are people in the past saying that people are crazy buying $1000 per bitcoin.

So who is crazy now?

Why you guys replying on 2 years old thread?? Are you guys crazy? This thread was created when altcoin session begin on early 2018 after bitcoin passed new ATH at 20k dollar.

Mostly i agree with OP, the only 1 way to get rich is by buying cheap, not something expensive like ETH at $1200. You must calculate how big the marketcap if you are looking for 2-5x profit with ETH price.

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you're really wrong judging coin by their price, look at total market cap not the price lol, isnt classic pyramid scheme, eth isnt defi, eth is world computer support by hundreds thousand of miners

the biggest network beside btc, ppl who buy this because eth can drive such large money & big liqudity, not like shitcoin p&d

that ppl who bought eth at 0.5$ already sold their coin, at first eth came out i sold everyday mined eth at 1-2$ lol

If people are still buying btc at this price then while will it feel strange if people buy eth at current price even, @op thought $1200 was high at the time he made this post but eth has since appreciated more in price, many people have a lot of trust in eth the reason why the price keeps going up, those who eth has potential will always buy at a higher price.

Agree, when people start to be an investor or a trader, they always have the basics of the market, know what the price point is right to buy and sell, some people may think that the price of $1200 is high to buy but others have a better perspective, they believe that eth can reach $2000, $3000, there is nothing too crazy in this story, this is a market without restrictions, as long as people keep the hype and bitcoin doesn't ruin the game, ethereum can still rise. But to be sure, a trader or an investor needs to analyze and know where to stop, each one will be per opinion and analysis

I wish it was possible for me to pay $1200 for 1 Ethereum.  This coin is flying off the charts now it is $1800.

Since it is the only token with a actual use for it this is no surprise of the interest this coin has always had.  I just wish I realized this earlier and bought some.

I would argue that Ethereum is still a really good choice, I mean it's been doing so well and if i remember its actually the most used crypto on a day by day basis

It's far from being the most used crypto currency. In fact because of astronomical fee amounts ETH is pretty unusable for a long time.
That's not the point here anyway, the point is you can't make a lot of money by buying 1200 USD ETH and selling it even at the top 1800-2000 USD. You only make less than 2x. OP tell you that you need to find a good gem with very low price, that way you can be rich.