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Right I am so fed up with all this stupid moaning..

this is the new structure..

Rank   Required activity   Required merit
Brand new   0   0
Newbie   1   0
Jr Member   30   0
Member   60   10

so I will offer to level up a brand new, Newbie account or Jr Member to Member... only 1 person will win this challenge, the requirement is that they must be a native English speaker and make 40 constructive and relevant posts..

so - newbies.. post in this thread, then make the necessary number of posts and re post in this thread. i will check back in a week and chose my winner, if I am not satisfied with the quality of the posts then no winner will be chosen and I will roll it over for another week until a winner is chosen..

so people, stop bitching and contribute..

hopefully this will encourage some of the newer members to stop moaning and start getting with the program

EDIT..

As people have been raining merits on me like money mayweather in a strip club.. this thread will stay alive for a while.. i will check in on the regular, but I can see this being a permanent thread if people keep on raining them down on me I will have to keep on paying it forward.. for all the naysayers this thread will be proof that the system works..

cheers

T

Are you willing to try your own challenge with an unknown newbie account? 

what do you mean?

Post from an unknown newbie account and try to win your own contest.

why? multi accounting is frowned upon..

I have nothing to prove - only things to give.. and you by this statement have yourself banned from entering..

see ya...

There is a problem with this giveaway. Do you think members who really make those constructive 40 posts will need these 10 points by then. They would have already got it by other members if they post deserving posts. You will get filtered crap as applicants.

then it keeps going on... and more newbies benefit from either myself or other holders of sMerit handing it out.. don't you see ?? its a win win for decent posters.

that's what you come up with ? Stupid contest nothing more from a discriminatory and racist op , and by the way what does the challengers will post about in this 40 posts required ? They will talk about their personal life ? Creating a thread only to propose this crap !!!

whoop whoop! another one not in!!

racist because I asked for a native English speaker?? there are subs for other languages, the main forum is in English, or even American English. NOT Engrish.. if you don't like it don't post.. my thread, my sMerits, my rules..

Bye!

Merit system is now turning into a contest , a challegene , a game, an entertainment from high-rank members for newcomers. Good job and sorry i don't need your charity :)

another one not allowed in... don't you see that I am offering people the chance to jump a few levels? check my OP - other members have sent me sMerit for this.. so I guess I will have to level up more members.. but at this rate I don't see that any newbies can stop moaning and just fall in line.

ill end up giving the sMerits to other higher ranks.. that would be a mighty shame as I am genuinely trying to help out some of you newbies here. I have nothing to personally gain from this.. Hero or Legendary makes no odds to me and either way I will eventually level up as I post plenty and trade with plenty of people..

I don't get why the hate? This one's a good idea it gives more chance to newbies. Now they shouldn't have any more excuse not getting merits. I hope to see more thread like this especially from merit source members.

@All junior members complaining in this thread
You don't like the rules of the contest posted by TMAN? Just pass along and continue doing what you would have done if you didn't stumble on this thread. You just lost a little bit of time while reading so no harm done and maybe some junior member will like the rules.

@TMAN
I have two suggestions regarding this thread based on my personal experience. Sorry if it is a bit presumptions.
1. Add into topic name what member levels are allowed to participate in contest
2. Regarding your rule about only native English speakers. I would suggest rephrasing it to something on the line that posts have to be written in good/readable English, NOT Engrish.. That way you avoid racist arguments and it seems more fair to me. Maybe this is again biased by my personal experience. I am not a native English speaker but I believe that my level of English if more than adequate for any English speaking forum.

General ramblings
I am concerned about misuse of the merit system. Mainly selling of merit points and deals between members to mutually merit each other posts (especially on local forums). But that is a bit off topic so I will take it in one of the many newly risen merit topics.

@TMAN

If I got you correct , that it means I should put my current count of my post, and make 40 constructive post and come back in week to repost the count again , then you will read all my post and decide to give me merit points.

I see the bullying is just begin

you got it fella...

your chance to get 10 merits.

@TMAN

I do not know why I am not able to use my qoute feature.

my post count starts from  81 .
Wait for me for a week  :) :)

if you see me helping other people out as bullying then yes that's exactly what is happening.

I can request whatever I like in my thread, if you don't like it don't post...

I think the idea is good, but I would like to offer a suggestion to expand it.

In theory Tman shouldn't need to provide any merit points. If the system is working, then 30 good posts should generate 10 merit points anyway. Now no system is perfect, so it may be that a good new poster needs a few points to top up his credits. If Tman put his points into a pool, and just used the points needed, he could expand this to help more than one poster.

that's the whole idea... if someone has tried hard and then re posts in this thread, I will give them 10..  if there are multiple people then newbies actions will be seen by other members who have sMerits. I will save 50 of my own so I can honor what I have offered here a few times and any more I get will go into the pot.

people are giving me merits for doing this so I need to pay it forward.

This is good challenge for the newbies to do great post to ranked up their account, i recommend to those lower ranked is to accept this challenge and make this inspiration for posting and be greedy to win this challenge and this challenge is not only for the prize its also for the good of the future of your account.

@TMAN i would suggest to have your own judge (the one who review their post) to avoid conflict to all participants.

Goodluck to all newbie hope there will be a winner.

the whole idea of this thread was to give some noobs some exposure.. instead they just bitch and moan.. only one person has taken me up on it so far..

change is not scary, change is good - embrace the change and good things will happen!

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised by the lack of interest in this challenge.
Maybe it is due to "there can be only one" rule?
If so than I'm willing to merit* user that will score the second place in TMAN's competition.
This is of course if you are fine with it OP.?

*not to the full upgrade but rather 90% of points needed to level up (way to acknowledge the winner).

cool by me bud... lets get the noobs who are actually making an effort to level up.  The moaning Pajeets need to go away, the more quality posts and less shitposts the better this place will become.

some of the subs are just cesspools

+1 on this, it feels like most of the currently active users are either shitposters, spammers (both these tend to moan the loudest about the recent merit introduction) or should have never left their local boards in the first place.

I hope making 40 consecutive posts that bring any value to the forum will make the prize of the challenge redundant to any participants. Either way - good luck everyone!

you are in bud.. get to the posting, question away - MAKE BITCOINTALK GREAT AGAIN!!

I somehow get this. I need to post to say that i would love to join? Then maybe wait for your approval? Then carry on and make 40 post then post here again saying that i have made 40 quality post? And wait for the winner to be announced? Did i get it right?

Crack on fella - provide some value to this place...

nice to see some of the newbies embracing my idea

@TMAN ...  can you see my post history if I am already eligible for some merit because none of the merit that I got.

And I gladly accept the challenge that you gave, wish can be granted your permission, although I am not native English speaker.

no merit for the 1st page of your quotes.. you are welcome to join, but as a non native English speaker it will be harder for you to win... but I am all for equal opportunities.. so give it your best buddy..

Okay I think it is a good idea to help Jr.Members into Members.
But can you expand this a little bit like  helping also Members to reach Full Members.
Timespan: 1 week
25 constructive post = 20 Merits

No. bye.

Cool, can you help me out?
How can I join your program? As of now my post count is 1
I will repost my post count. Check me out.

you son are in...  good luck..

Your idea is great, and I'm with you in the same my fella TMAN.
I don't want to create a new thread with the same content and so, I announce the same challenge from my end too.
If I believe that someone (other than TMAN's winning choice) is eligible to become a Member based on their deserving posts, I will be giving 10 points to that person. Just to clarify that this will be limited to 1 week only and if I see some more improvements, I may decide to go on and share more.
This means that this challenge will not get 1 person rewarded, but 2 for this week. One by TMAN and one by me.

Nice one dude - that is exactly what this thread was about - encouragement and some reward for the non shitposters..

cant be giving it to everyone but we have a moral duty to support some of the newbies and to encourage others to be part of the community in a positive way

I am quite fortunate that I was able to land on my current rank before things heated up in this forum due to concerns re DT abuse and the new merit system. It is true that things have become a bit more challenging around here. But I see it to be more for the benefit of the majority. I understand that members with the 3 lowest ranks would think that the new system is unfair and bias. But this only means that we will have to raise our bars higher when it comes to posting. And by doing so, we get the reward of becoming better.

Also, I would like to give a shout out to all brand new, newbies, jr. members, and even members, to embrace this change rather than whining and complaining. This is the only way we can move forward. We have here two veteran forum members who are lending a helping hand. So instead of bashing them, why not support them and participate in the challenge. I like how TMAN mentioned that he would like to "pay it forward." This is very unselfish..we should be the same. I support this challenge and the merit system as a whole. Good things will happen. Good luck to the participants!

I'd rather see sMertis spread around more than just sending to one user, I like the intent of the idea but this type of "challenge" may just set a template for all of the farmers to try and avoid detection. Now they will just start challenges or competitions that all of their alts will win and it is no longer shady for them to send all of their sMerits because it was part of a challenge. Just my thought.

I'm still thinking this whole system through fully before I start wiping out my sMerits. I'm hoping to devote 30% to Brand New/Newbies, 30% to Member/Jr, 30% to Sr. Members and 10% to Hero (I know others will likely get the Hero's). I feel like this may not be easy to accomplish though...  :-\

This is great. At least all low level rank can participate..

Iam a Merit noob, I'll have to read up on the fine detail but Im posting to say when I first joined the forum a while ago there was a similar kind of contest.   Engage in the forum, post properly and they'd enter us into a bitcoin raffle and it was done over a year that one.

As it turned out that was the year BTC first took off to four figures or so and so it was a big deal in the end.   I cant see this thread is anything negative especially, it is emphasising proper post quality and especially from new members which hopefully Bitcoin does not yet lack.   Theres so many drifters and ghosts on forums like this, maybe even the majority of traffic Im not sure but its positive if people do try to post on a thread and they are more likely to come back when involved in a conversation on whichever thread.

So far as racism, maybe employ the brain a little on this as he cannot possibly judge quality of a post in a language he has not been taught.     Someone in that section can run a thread like this surely

OP is a level racist HAHA. Full members and up also need merits but, as what you have said your competition your rules.  As what I have expected before entering into this thread that there will be complains about it, and wish come true. It is also a challenge for us full members to achieve enough merits, by doing constructive and quality post. But, Dev knows the best (thanks to admin theymos).

O.P. to the next level. 

Bud let's work on getting some of the lower members up 1st. If enough senior guys get involved we can do higher levels

I don't understand why they're referring to you as someone who is "racist" when all you just want to do is to help those who are unappreciated due to their rank. Just because he is requiring English posts, that doesn't automatically make him a racist. He is just being practical as most of the threads here are in English and in order for you to be hired in a signature campaign, it is important that you can write cohesively in English as most of the local boards don't count in the requirements of a campaign. I appreciate your kindness and how you thought of encouraging the lower ranking members that they have a chance in this forum. Thank you for noticing their efforts and for giving them a chance to prove that they can earn merits, TMAN. Let's all help one another here, especially those who needs it the most as we all had hardships in achieving our ranks.

It's hard to us to grow up in crypto currency world, especially now merit was needed to ranking up. I guess even how many activities you have in the following days or months if you can't get some merit you can't ranking up.

In my side it was a big challenges to us this merit system, I guess we need to improve more our post to get some merit from the other members.

Like the others I'm giving only my merit if I got some knowledge or information to the poster. I don't want to give my credit merit to the post who have low quality.

nice to see such a topic man! help as i can!
good luck to challengers!

Thanks bud, just remember pay the merits forward and think about your posts then you will earn more.

I've been lucky as I have been active in meta the last few days and have been given a ton of merits for supporting the system. But when this all settles I will need to take an extra 30 seconds on posts and not just button smash if I want to get to legendary

help me Tman
How to make a good post?

Is there a requirement to make a good post. give me a master explanation??
how to make a post to get Merit?

No offence but English isn't your first language, go post in your local boards, you will have much more luck there

Here are some good posts for reference :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828014.msg28982745#msg28982745
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.msg10775516#msg10775516
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1692740.msg16984262#msg16984262

This thread isn't for spoonfeeding people who can't read. People need to help themselves a bit before I will help

I've been stumbling in my haphazard way through the forum and I noticed that (Merit abusers aside) the only place any merit is moving around in any quantity is in Meta. Granted, I don't have the time nor inclination to do an in-depth analysis, but that's what my cursory exam of the child boards I participate in shows.     There may be updates, but don't hold your breath.

It will spread. I bet 75% of the forum still don't know what merits are yet

good step indeed . hope you are also a smerit source who keen to help new members to rank up with quality posts .

edit - I am not applying for rank up as i am already a member .  :D

An aside to my earlier reply (#51):

I only had 169 page of spam to filter this morning, which is down from the >200 I mentioned yesterday in another thread.
I'm not making attribution; I'm hoping that there is a connection between merit and numbers....    :)

I am not a source fella. If I was it would be raining merits more than it is.. I gave out my initial sMertis and most of the sMerits I received from others.

I'm doing this as I want the forum to be a better place. Go back 4 years and it was a cool place to be, not so much any more so if I can chuck all the merits about that I get then I feel I am doing my bit to help others

I'm joining to your challenge, hopefully will get the chance to win lol. But still im gonna keep posting constructive post in this forum


This is the real essence of sMerit because when you received a merit you'll be given a chance to give out to. Keep up what you're doing sir we all want a better and cleaner forum in the future. Kudos sir TMAN

That's the point, TMAN.
I have also written a thread which propose some minor adjustment for merit system. Please check this one if you have free time.

The idea is good. I would love to take the challenge, but can we reduce the posts required? I mean 40 posts a week is quite a challenge itself, and that might generate some spam from users trying to be up for the challenge and not being able to make them constructive. You will probably reject them but the forum cannot reject the posts made by them. So I think it would be a better idea to reduce the posts requirement for your challenge. If you do that, I'm taking the challenge, but If not, then I let others to take the chance.

I put 40 posts so people are trying to make a large quantity of posts (as in signature campaigns) with the restriction of the posts being more than shitposts... so if people cannot do that then they should not be in a signature campaign so have no real need to level up.

I know it may sound slightly harsh to some, but if people just want to be part of a community and learn from this place then they can.. but they wont be getting merits and level up help from me.

Right.. I know it is a little early, but I have gone through the posters in this thread and you are the man... you are trying, it comes across in your posts bud.. so you get the 1st level up.. its a cheap one for me as it is only 4 merits. This shows that others are recognizing quality posts which is fucking awesome..

if it keeps on like this and people keep on meriting me then I may be able to bring the next level up even sooner!!

well done Cry4Crypto - in future I hope I can assist in leveling you up to 100 merits

Well deserve merit for cry4crypto, now im dedicated to improve my post maybe next time ill be the lucky winner for TMAN, Anyway keep doing this TMAN and good things will come back for you for helping others. Cheers

Cheers mate, much appreciated! I've been lurking for a long time before I decided to open an account, now I'm here to stay! I'm genuinely interested in simply exchanging views with others and helping others out whenever I can, while having a little fun of course. I'm happy to have come around before the whole merit drama started, would have been a real shame to miss this milestone that turned out to be so traumatic to many!  ;D

Took me a while but I was finally able to scroll through post history of users who expressed interest in accepting TMAN's challenge.
Basically cry4crypto was in fact the only sane choice, however merited by OP so someone else would have to be picked.  
Second place and a small merit bump, up to 90% required for level up, goes to:
Alone055 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=945923) - this users was my choice.
Mostly for rebuking one person for posting in the wrong section. Hope that those merits won't go to waste Mr Alone055 ;)
There's still long way ahead of you. Your initial post few weeks ago where a lot better so...get back in to shape?
Anyway, list of participants so far:

I love this idea, as it is molding and shaping healthy conversation in these forums by offering an incentive for quality posts. As someone who is against shitposters, I would like to sponsor a second-place prize, if you will. I will donate 20 merits to disperse amongwhoever you select as the runners up to this challenge, after the winner is declared. Thanks for doing this, TMAN, and I’m grateful in advance for the better-quality posts that will come out of this.

I’m hoping to see more high-sMerit members hosting or supporting a challenge like this in the future!

That was sweet!  :D Thanks man. And of course, I'm always trying to be better when it comes on contributing to discussions. Hopefully I can keep it up and keep getting attention from my Seniors like you.  :D

There were a lot of frustrated newbies who felt left behind in comparison to spammers having multiple leveled up accounts, just because they were here before the sMerits epoch started.The pain vis-a-vis the spammers is definitely real and this is some much needed relief.

As the thread becomes popular, some of the other members will also be doling out merits to worthy posters who show up here. This should probably be stickied so that everyone who comes to Meta to complain about sMerits can take a look. The topic headline could be something catchier like "NOT GETTING ANY MERITS? COME TAKE THE CHALLENGE!"

75% of the current forum probably believes merits are a gift from their god.  :/

Thanks for doing this! I think this topics I have created deserves merit. I hope you agree with me, and every merit I get is much appreciated.

The Beginners guide to Blockchain & Cryptocurrency:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2843677.msg29170807#msg29170807

What are ICO's, and investment advices:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851576.msg29257666#msg29257666

Why you should avoid Pump & Dump groups! Don't be fooled:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2857818.0

Monetize ICO a scam?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2849195.msg29229925#msg29229925

Interview with Richard Silver, the COO of Titanium:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839506.msg29131264#msg29131264

John MacAfee - A scam artist?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2849626.msg29231963#msg29231963

Interview with Vakhtang Abuladze, the CEO of Bazista:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839543.msg29131578#msg29131578

After almost one week when merit system launched, we can not refuse the fact that this system has made our forum better. I am sure that no one can fight against the fact. There are lots of spammers stopped spamming due to their lack of knowledge, lack of English writing skill (their English broken), lack of efforts (so ridiculous, those ones have never put so much efforts in the forum), etc. More and more constructive posts occured day by day (I dont want to judge those ones are high-qualitied or not, that depends).

Nevertheless, there are two-sided effects of the system, as lots of topics, threads, users have discussed throughout the forum recently. I simply accept the new challenge.



The problem is "How long will the early positive effects of merit system last?"

That is dependent on the changes that we have been promised. It will be interesting to see what improvements are introduced.

Thanks for this. I did take the effort to look at the other posts.

Let's leave this here for a few weeks so people can easily point all the moaning fucks to it. Then after a while I will either move this to games or I will lock it and start a new one there.

Hopefully you like my posts as well, poptok1 and TMAN? I hope so. I am doing my best to post high quality topics.

@ TMAN

Is this thread closed now or it will continue for the next week to award merits?

Unfortunatly this merit sytem does not work like that  There are a lot of new users who have posted decent threads and there are hero members who post all sorts of crap because they are being paid small amounts of bitcoins for sig campaigns. I origianlly joined this forum back in 2013 (Look Up posts from Cryptocoinshops) that was my old user name before it got banned for lack of activity over a long period.

This forum is really going to shit with so many sig whores trying to make themselves a little bitcoin and it was never like this before. The standard of post have gone down and the replies to posts I sometimes wonder if they are adults or not.  Shame because this used to be a good forum for new people , webmasters, designers, new mining ideas and coders trying to use Bitcoin for what it was meant for but I guess nothing lasts forever.

English is not the world official languages, there is other nationalities and people over there !  And there is many people who can speak English better than many natives English speakers.  So how will you know ?

Well you are not one for starters, I know plenty of Europeans who speak better English than I do and they would not be caught with this rule. This is an English language forum and this is my thread so I can make up my own rules, I can also change my rules if I see fit.

English is the language used for the financial services in most of the Western world. It is also really annoying to try to read unintelligible posts on the English boards. It really slows down the pace of thread scanning. Bitcoin Talk has a number of boards for a variety of languages - it makes much more sense to post in a language in which you have some fluency, rather than clogging an English thread, and being ignored or flamed.

The key word here is "native". That technically excludes i.e. those Europeans that speak/write perfect English, as it's not their "native" language (in most cases).

It's your topic and your sMerits, so you're free to discriminate whoever you want, but if didn't intend to discriminate, maybe replace "native" with "fluent" or "proper"?

Thankyou for merit.i appriciate and willing to join your proposal on giving away your merits. Hope that i can meet your standards your merit will help me alot.

very useful information provided by the THAM. But i am unable to earn any merit with my post. moreover i observed that merit are going and coming between specific groups not to unknown and good post.

nope - go get a real job


same as you - go away and stop making my eyes bleed

I suggest to you that we haven't seen the positive effects of the merit system yet.

Other than new account signups slowing down, everyone is still posting the same, hoping that their method is one that will attract merit.  People believe changes to the system will be made, so they aren't making much effort in changing their habits.

I believe it will be about another month before we stop seeing all the posts about merit (being made by people who want merit) and the FACT (no changes!) of the new system will hit them and most shitposters will just leave.  

Great idea! Willing to accept provided it is still open!  8)

yes it is still open, but members need to read this users posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210

then come here and make me aware of your existence - this is what you are competing against

Woah! I'm generally optimistic, but must give credit where credit is due, its going to be very hard to compete against that. Such high standards!

dude I would be crazy to expect every poster to be like that, I mean fuck I cannot express myself as eloquently as he does.. but people need to see how good some posters are..

Now there is no perfect system, so maybe the new poster needs some points to complete the scale. If Tman inserts points into the pool, and someone has tried hard and then re-post in this thread, I will give them 10 .. if there are some people then the beginner's action will be seen by other members who have sMerits.

how about fuck off....

go and learn something about bitcoin, provide some value and then you may earn some merits.. for starters stop posting in meta, either spend a lot of time in newbies or technical discussion and learn a lot more than you know now...

your current path will not work

Ok, I'll bite. Let's see if my posts will be considered useful.

dude you have no worries - topped you up to 10.. your posts are well written and you are involved in the alt sections and not just saying shit like "when moon?" valuable members like you will level up easily once all the shitposting has been eradicated

Merits being raind on you like money mayweather in a strip club.  I just had to reply , this made me lol.

Thanks a lot, TMAN! :)

Glad to see I'm not the only one going in the right direction with regards to what a community should be all about.

Dude as I said from the start of this, people who are good quality posters will get the needed merits...  you got your 1st level up, feel free to PM me when you are above 80 and ill top you up again to 100

Ok. So here is a link to my profile posts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1113788;sa=showPosts
May not be award-winning posts, but I do not spam or troll, write answers or questions on the subject. Thank you for your attention  :)

nothing on the first page jumps out at me, and you seem rather keen for merits.. so ill pass for now, but will keep an eye out moving forwards

Good day Mr. TMAN. I wanted to qualify for this giveaway and this would be my 40th post (just for luck).
I am an experienced cryptocurrency user and I believe my posts have helped this community. I try to share my knowledge of the crypto-world with others, as you can see from my posts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1835217;sa=showPosts
Even if I do not win, it is a pleasure to participate, thank you.

Thanks for this opportunity. Please check my posts and let me know if I qualify.

nope - bitching about legendary members wont help..


nope

Applying as I have completed 40 posts. Thanks in advance for your time.

Hello, I understand what you wanted to do sir and I would love to join this campaign of yours but this quoted message above saying that YOUR participants need to read that user's post and compete with him. I really think that dude is professional in this field but I'll try, this could probably crack my brain but let me in and I'll bring it on.

dont even try fella - you are wasting my time and yours.

go read some English books, watch some movies and come back in 6 months or just post on your local language board

Apologies for the off topic it's a really great work you are doing but this is part of your post is a little "wobbling" or let's say unordered.
let me suggest a small correction if you don't mind :


I suggest to replace it with this code.


Just let me know and I will delete this comment. Cheers

Why would you say so? I mean I know how to speak and write english and that was one of your criteria. Creating constructive posts is easy but giving comments that needs codes or whatever that dude was writing, Man do you need a newbie to customize a blockchain and try if that would get a merit in here? That was crazy.

I thought that you are looking for good reply by understanding each post. Now it's clear that you are finding an Einstein on a newbie account.

you called me Sir.. instant no no for me fella

I see. Why don't you accept my sign of respect? I don't know what country you came from but aside from it's description I think that should be the word I need to address you. I mean you're a Hero Member

First of all, being a Hero Member doesn't mean that they deserve more respect than any other rank. It just indicates the length of time that they've been on the forums.

Secondly, just being able to write and speak English isn't enough to earn Merits. If that was the case, then every single one of my posts should be merited.

I believe that the reason @TMAN referenced @nullius' posts is because they are relevant to the context of the topics that he/she decides to post in. Take a look at his/her posts, and look at the context of the topic. Spot on, and a great example of how newbies and low-ranked members should be posting.

And for the record, I've merited posts that weren't extremely proficient in English; my merits are based on what I find to be valuable to the Bitcointalk community AND to the given topic of discussion. I could actually give a shit less about how good someone's English is, as long as I know that they're putting forth a good effort to contribute here.

Not all in hero spots are spoke good English language, because some of them are speaking broken English. However they considered it in the previous but now since quality of post is the no. 1 needed they were need to make a sentences with good quality of English.

The challenge to us how many people are users are reach in the hero spots since merit points now are applicable? They need to catched up the eye of many users to give us merit.

In addition they need to make level our activities and merit to make us ranked up in the future.

I have read the the example person's post that you requested and would like some consideration.. I don't think I can articulate as well as he does, but my posts are generally trying to be helpful within the realm of what I know.  I mainly post in the beginners forum and trading forum.. since my background is in teaching and day/position trading for a few years. I don't claim to know everything but try to offer my opinion in the best way possible, even if its not the popular response.   I want to be proof that this system works and work my way up through all of the ranks starting with 0 merits.  Here are a few of my posts..let me know what you think.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2962760.msg30441689#msg30441689
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2963706.msg30440856#msg30440856
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2958978.msg30382445#msg30382445
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2945597.msg30304956#msg30304956
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2658522.msg30248372#msg30248372
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2944431.msg30246763#msg30246763

Thanks for your consideration.. if indeed you are still running it.

I think you actually did not understand the intent here. Why you want someone to read your broken English.
If you are not proficient in English language then you should post in your local language.
OP here require good English to understand and merit the post but it does not mean people will not get merit if they are not proficient in English.

I mean I respect him as a superior and maybe also as a boss coz obviously he could help me out on my rankings since I'm still a newbie. Respect is deserved, and I would give it to anybody until proven that you should be disrepected.

I am trying to get as informative, detailed as I can when posting in here because I know that would be grounds to rank up, other way to get banned. Maybe that was enough coz I can't compete with Mr. Nullius, but IF EVER you guys can have better posts than him then If I can earn my merits it should be for you to give.

I know, I look that up as an example, why are you taking away the chance from me to even try. I would love to reply/post that way but to be better than him? At the moment it's impossible, so are you. No offense sir, Im just stating the fact.

Great. I hope you would notice me, not because I oppose to the words of Mr. TMAN but because I posted something good that maybe could help the forum/owner of the thread.

Just saw this... in case it's still happening, I'd like to try my luck. Thank you!

You already had some.. and if the exchange with nullius keeps going then likely a lot more

Please check my posts and let me know if I qualify.

Is this for REAL? :D

Yes see how much merit I have handed out

Oh well Im not emphasizing broken english of the others. My point is, if your not comfortable in using English as the medium of communication in this forum, then probably you should trained yourself to be familiarize.
Lets face it its so hard to earn, merit nowadays that's why everyone had been challenge to post a unique and quality post so that others will notice it and give merit.
And for those who experience struggle in English you must practice.

Hope the thread is still alive.... :) There is a satisfaction to get merit evidently....I collected my posts as below.
I be will be very happy if each of below post earn merits ;)  :
1.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2983956.msg30940054#msg30940054
2.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2632503.msg30948807#msg30948807
3.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3010719.0
4.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2991638.msg30837667#msg30837667
5.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2980470.msg30773128#msg30773128
6.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2980470.msg30773128#msg30773128
7.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2960563.0

Just saw this post, though I'm not sure if it is still going on. Think most of my responses on the forums have been thoughtful and detailed thus far - have a look.

Regardless of whatever you decide, thanks for your consideration!

Going to give this a crack, my posts so far have been mixed to say the least, so will concentrate on upping the ante and getting some quality information out there. I'll be back.

bounties, ICO's, Gambling - sorry gents not my thing.,

really am struggling to hand out merit here - if anyone else can see others that deserve please let me know as I may of missed some

This is a good initiative to rank up members as much as we can manage

But I think this would hoard the 40 merit point into one single person and its not the point of the Merit system, its should be given to anyone deserving it including those post you not agree with, as soon as you see one, so far I've never seen one that I can categorically characterize as such.

I myself still haven't spent my sMerit yet but plan to spend it as soon as possible to get the system move just like an engine and economy in the real world, when there is part stop moving the whole system start to collapse and break.

I think a healthy Merit system is where Merit spending velocity should be at least circulate 10 times in single month to generate as much members going up their next ranking in one month, probably more than that would defeat the goal of the system. Just my quick estimation

As I am not native speaker, I may not able to take up the challenge but would like to see what come up from this initiative.

It would be fun to see how this system moves the merit, I think it will follow the same model how Velocity of Money (http://www.harley.com/money-and-economics/understanding-money/19-the-velocity-of-money.html) determine how healthy the economy is.

shitpost! bye

That just shows more like favoritism than anything meritocracy is working here

nope it is showing that your English isnt great and you are using 20 words when one will do.. post in your local section fella

not shitposter only bad english

Ok ill bite - what do you think a shitpost is?

This is a good initiative to rank up members as much as we can manage

But I think this would hoard the 40 point into one single person and its not the point of the Merit system, its should be given to anyone deserving it including those post you not agree with, as soon as you see one, so far I've never seen one that I can categorically characterize as such.

WTF does all that mean?


I think a healthy Merit system is where Merit spending velocity should be at least circulate 10 times in single month to generate as much members going up their next ranking in one month, probably more than that would defeat the goal of the system. Just my quick estimation


and that??

If you know your English isn't any good why are you posting in a thread asking for merits where I said that non native speakers wont get merit?

You are just being mean, its simple English, not too bad but not perfect either, I just feel that it is interesting experiment to follow as I have some theory of how this will turn out, that is why I reply to the post so that I can find back the post later to check how its going on.

I did state that I cannot participate, I am just interested to follow the story

I am a native English speaker, and am fair with Spanish, French, Italian, Tagalog and six North American Native languages.

I'll repeat the question because I want to know: WTF does that mean?

Do you understand all that language to evaluate their posting, are you Filipino by chance ?

He is talking about an economy and how often will Merit circulate.   The merit system is more like a commodity because its being used up along the way, velocity will diminish unlike BTC where the same 'coin' is never used up.    Its not really comparable then.  

This is all voluntary, if people dont really get the gist of what you post just keep on going.  No biggy really.   I'll merit whenever I feel like it or not, so yea completely biased to whatever post I appreciate or agree with but I'll take a look at fxstrike's other posts.

Its a very loose system, no economy or I hope not.

Hey It looks like this thread is still rollin, so I am a native english speaker and i am down to try to win this thing for sure. Cryptocurrency and blockchain technology is kinda my passion now, and I found work at a crypto so i could pursue said passion. I appreciate you for offering this reward.. You sure as shit didn't have to.

Did I understand this wrong, wasn't this a "monthly" contest?
It's march and I have not seen a new list by TMAN.

TMAN THE MAN. I like you already, not here for your smerit's though.

 Maybe no other person ever particularly mentioned this to you, but: the way your honest self works is really f****d up.

This is off-topic and TMAN will clean it up soon, but I'm not fluent enough to provide the service, even if I had the time.
I'm not Filipino; Texan.

How it is off-topic when we are discussing about Merit here which involve inspecting user's post quality, does it not involve understanding the language of the poster ?
And what are you talking about when you say but I'm not fluent enough to provide the service ?
What service are you talking about?
Why you have to be fluent to provide the service?
Are you working in Voice Assistance Service like when you call 1-800 some Asian people answering the phone ?

Maybe nobody here has earned his merits yet?

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Speak proper English please or GTFO. What does that even mean in English? :P


Sounds like a potential candidate. TMAN, you need help evaluating pajeet posts etc, let me know? :D

I keep reading but don't see anything decent. If anyone senior sees anything I am missing out here please let me know

No worries, thanks for considering me! Though not ALL my posts are about gambling, heh. Like this one!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3021933.msg31084755#msg31084755

I guess a key distinction I'm wondering is if you really aren't finding any "constructive and relevant posts" as stated in your original challenge request or is it more the necessity of finding quality posts that are ALSO of personal interest to you? Your response to my post made me think it was more the latter than the former, but I could be mistaken. It's also your challenge after all so it's completely up to your discretion.

I only ask because at least one other member has a similar challenge, but requires that the posts be about his/her particular areas of interest. Not sure if that's what you ultimately wanted in your own.

I don't understand gambling so it is unlikely that I will merits posts there. As for the post above yea it's cool but if you had used search then you would see multiple other similar threads.. quality is also avoiding duplication

I'm back to rant on about the fairness of the merit system. Should rename the thread to TMAN's literacy awards  ;D
I was just reading on the thread about alt accounts and the more I read, the more humiliated I felt about such merit give away threads.
There are old accounts just sending 10 merits to numerous alts, achieving member status in a snap for their signature bots, while there are real non-alt intelligent people in such threads going out of their way to prove that they deserve member status. Wish I had unlimited merit so I would award it to real people who actually contribute and write decent posts. I don't think the posts should be award-winning, I think they should have only two requirements: 1) be on the subject 2) make some sense in expressing the thoughts of the author. This forum is about bitcoins, remember? Not an English literature class. You don't have to be a major in literature to receive merit, seriously. The more of these threads I read, the more I realize how disgusting this is. These threads all look like older members bullying around the newcomers, because 90 % of the comments are something like "Sorry, I don't like you, you get nothing". Nothing personal TMAN, I just like your thread most, so I decided to express my feelings here. Everything I say goes towards 99% of the merit give away threads I have seen. I am still thinking about how it should be done and maybe in the end I will make a constructive proposal on the merit system change.

I don't agree with the above, but It did make me look at other posts by you and I gave you another merit. All I can say is give it some time, once all the Pajeet shitposters leave the forum then merits will be spread in a fair way. until then you will need to take some time to read more and try to be positive about the situation

You do understand that MANY people are giving away merit without using "give away threads", don't you?

Have you taken a look at my merit policy (link in my sig)?


While I generally agree with you, I feel there are two more requirements.

1: The post must add something to the conversation. A post that simply copies or restates something that has already been said in the thread doesn't deserve merit unless it adds something new to the conversation. (copy/paste is just graffiti making a mess of the thread and making it impossible to find the actual thoughts and questions.

2: It must appear that the poster put some thought into what they were saying. Posting complete nonsense should not earn merit eve if it is "on topic".  As an example: A thread that asks "What is the maximum amount of bitcoins that will ever be created?", and someone replies saying "I think there will be a total of 10 million, and they will be done being created in 3 more years. That reply is technically "on topic", but it definitely does NOT deserve any merit.  The creator just made up some nonsense and created a post.

I was interested in earning a merit to rank up. At least I could join some signature campaigns that we junior members and newbie are not allowed to. I never thought it was this hard to just earn even a single merit. I suddenly felt hopeless and maybe I will be left alone as it seemed too difficult to be accomplished. Ten merits going up is so high to reach. I got only two. Hopeless about such but am still giving it a try. Maybe this is just a piece of junk post but its up to anybody now. Maybe I don't always deserve it. Just want to know if I lacked something that should be said. Maybe you can help me out create a better reply. Thanks! May you always have a better day after reading it. Don't worry I can accept any bad comment for this. Thank you and more blessings to you in return.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722609.msg30875681#msg30875681

Maybe you should stop posting in threads that have 127 pages of content before your post. That's a sure sign of a shitposter.

Just because your post is long doesn't mean it's good.

Is this thread active like before, does TMAN continously monitors those new members in the forum to give sMerits? I would love to know. Thank you because I applied before and become inactive because of shoolworks. THANK YOU

You're not going to receive any merit if you don't have any basic investigative/researching skills. Look at the post right before yours. It was posted 3 days ago. It was merited by TMAN. Which means, yes, TMAN is still actively monitoring posts, at least here. Maybe you should focus on school for the time being; there seems to be some more educating that needs to happen :P

I am now locking this for a bit. I can't stand these fucks who don't help themselves by reading a bit. I may open it again I may not.

ive unlocked this as its relevant again right now, if I only get pajeets I will lock again. "if" I get some newbies who want to put some effort in, then ill leave this open for a while.

Good news for potentially constructive new members.

I think you need to edit a small thing in the following part of the OP. It is actually just one letter, but because new genuine users might read the OP and confuse themselves if they does not know about it already, you should do it immediately.


That highlighted zero (0) needs to be changed to one (1) according to the new changes.
You would have figured it out yourself maybe, but since I saw it unchanged until now, I thought I should inform you so that you do it ASAP.

That's still ok, new genuine user will not be having 30 activity and old newbie confusing itself means that user is not reading things properly.
(Whatever Theymos written that need to be taken, no need to getting confused with anybody else.)

Sad thing is that no "newbie" responded to this challenge, even I posted about this challenge in "Beginners and Help" board in one of my post and almost a week passed since this challenge is opened.

Not sure, whether it is the implicit nod from them that they know they are in shitposting and in no mood to change.

I have not been getting merits for my quality posts, here are some of them;

1.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044420.msg46540040#msg46540040
2.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042947.msg46460404#msg46460404
3.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038238.msg46185955#msg46185955
4.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5035071.msg46010606#msg46010606
5.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037345.msg46140962#msg46140962

I was going to give you a couple of merits for one of your posts, but I have the trading boards on ignore, so I wasn't able to do this. Many merit sources have been forced to put whole boards as well as members on ignore. If we didn't do this, then we wouldn't have the time to look through the remaining posts to award merits. Hopefully a source who is active on the trading boards will find you.

That's very generous of you because sometimes i do go back on some of the history posts in bitcoin discussion and you could see quite some relevant post that deserve merits but due to the rampant "shit post" that are are being displayed in this forum such comments and post are not seen. I guess this would help all forum members who want to contribute to the growth of this forum also have a chance to rank up. All the best man!

Count me in T-MAN! My current post count is 118 this inclusive and thanks for this generous offer :)

Greetings to @TMAN. sorry for a little suggestion from me for bitcointalk members, to the challenges of posting and Merit achievements, which want to give by: Mester @TMAN.

In life at the Bitcointalk Forum, members are always faced with a situation where members must compete with other members to get something, for example: rankings, posts, Merit and there are bitcointalk members who are more knowledgeable, well, this is a situation where bitcointalk members must compete for get the best and the best to get rankings and Merit.

The key to winning a challenge is to focus on the best potential that you can prove, so that finally @TMAN assesses and acknowledges that you have indeed proven superior and @TMAN chooses you or gives achievements that @TMAN offers, for those of you who post here.

The very bad concept is when you want to win the competition and come to your mind that you have to defeat the other members. Your focus is on other members and not on maximizing the potential of your posts.

Let's think smart and have the right thinking concept that the challenge of @TMAN to take one of the bitcointalk members wins the competition posting or whatever competition you are facing, refocuses on developing quality by maximizing your potential and proving to @TMAN that you are indeed superior.

There are 3 factors that you must avoid when you are in a time of challenge or competition, including:

1. Too demeaning the ability of yourself: where you feel inferior, pessimistic, and excessive low self-esteem, so you can not even see that your mind has given you unique abilities or potential that you can develop better and better, in the end to be superior.

2. Underestimate the strength of competitors or competitors: something that is wrong when you feel great, feel smarter, so you underestimate other members, and become less alert. Again focusing on other members or focusing more on what other members have is not the right way to win the competition.

3. Bad luck with competitors or competitors: something you have to avoid is the bad intentions that come to your mind to defeat competitors by damaging the good name of bitcointalk members. When we vilify other members, it actually shows your fear or anxiety that is negative or destructive action which actually shows that you are bad not your competitor. Forum members who have superior competence have no time to devise a cunning strategy to hinder other members.

So, once again, I suggest to the bitcointalk members that the smart way to win a competition is to focus on developing the quality of yourself and maximizing the potential of the posts that are said by @TMAN.

Be superior because you are confident and believe that @TMAN has provided superior seeds / Merit. Realize, trust, and develop it into your intelligence to win this competition.

Greetings of victory.