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Requesting 4 BTC loan with 5 repaid 30days

Loan to pay for Blade
$400 to be repaid on 9/25/2013
Remaining Balance to be Paid the following week

$400 can be paid by Credit Card or Bank Transfer or BTC 9/25/2013 or following day
**edit-update**
9-25-13 funds from amazon are to hit my bank.
Also have a real job

Collateral.
Personal Info
3,000+ TGC
77,000+ ASC
10,000 Zet


Updated repayment amount to Total of 5 BTC to be repayed for 30day loan

******Vod is Refrencing this Thread for False Accusations on AndrewWilliams*************

AndrewWillams- Has never asked for my Social Security Number or any specific data that would allow someone to take my Identity. AndrewWilliams has been proven to be fair and Lend as promised.

******Vod, was not involded in the loan or negotiation talks, he has no real Idea of what documents were provided.*******

No collateral?  No loan, sorry.  Why don't we just buy the mining equipment ourselves?

Lol, buddy I already know you dont have the funds to consider loaning it to me. I seen your loan request Good way to get that post count up though. Collateral I can do personal info.

I'm just stating what I will be using the funds for. To be transparent, I want to buy a blade that i will be ordering on 9/25/2013, the reason for the loan is so I can order it before they are out of stock. The repayment isnt based off what the Blade will make me, my regular job will be paying for the loan.  I have been around for a while now, I have tried to contribute to the scene and dont plan on going anywhere soon. Im the same i3lome from BTC-E, and Cryptsy. Ill be around for a good long time. Emails in the profile so im not hard to look up.

Don't try and play nice with me.  Of course I can cover this loan request.  I have money.  What I don't have is faith in this loan.  If you have a regular job, why not just wait less than a week, get your paycheck, and you're off to go!  No interest either!

Man people get mad quick. I get paid every 2 weeks so that's why not a week. It don't take much to go through old post and read comments. I seen one you posted where you are trying to get a $50 psn card for 0.20BTC


43   Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] $50 PSN Card(Code) - .2 BITCOINS!!  on: September 14, 2013, 05:29:27 PM 

I can do this once I get my payment in 1 week.  Can you reserve it for me then?
 
So if you need a week to get .20 you don't have the 4 BTC for the Loan I need. Im not being a dick but you showed up not to long ago and got the paid signature bs so you go and reply to every post you can with vague info and dumb questions. Your a troll, tryina get your post count up to make the Sig paycheck come in.  Play nice, lol I didn't wanna call your bs like a seen it but damn bro. Stay in your lane

This is when your brain comes in - Why would you presume in a week, I would only have 0.2 BTC?  I bought from a friend who is using coinbase - as soon the coinbase confirms he'll send me some BTC, et voila.  All my current BTC is in BTCJam at the moment.  If your paycheck is every 2 weeks, why not wait another week and then buy it?  You should be halfway there as for if last week was your payment, you could have gotten it there and then.

Also, $400 is not 4 BTC.

What is the btc value of the altcoins?

3000 + TGC is worth 300 satoshi each.
77000 + ASC is worth 80 satoshi each.
10000 Zet is worth almost 500 satoshi each.

He's a joke!  This is barely worth $20.

Dude your and idiot, you neverr loaned out any coin, on every thing for sale on this forum you ask if they ship to Canada, and to drop the price. No transactions or anything have come from your account. Your just running threw the motions to get you Stunna paycheck, its obvious you 15 with the InterWeb. If your reading comprehension is up to grade you would understand. I WANT TO ORDER A BLADE WHILE ITS STILL IN STOCK.  Yes I can wait a to order it but I would like to get one before having to wait another month.

Then you'll need to provide about $600 worth of collateral.

The value of the coin at this moment are not that high, ASC and TGC are only available on one exchange right now since they are new.

Understandable so, if I had $600 worth of collateral I would liquidate and buy the blade straight out, Im offering what I had, wich is more that most have that request a loan. I have a clean record and have always done what I have said on here.

Then you'll have to understand, without $600 in collateral you will not get this loan.

Just to Clarify.

I need 4 BTC
A $400 payment will be made to the lender on 9-26-2013
(Current $400 will repay ~3.25btc)
Leaving 1.25BTC to be paid the following week.

$400 payment-can be made by wire transfer or BTC Lenders Choice.

Yes, I am the idiot.  But you are a complete smartass.  Hey you know what?  I'll go and get a $600 loan with $20 collateral!! :)

Dumbass.

What do you have in mind for $600 in collateral, I have stuff in my home worth $600, if I use this as collateral, I assume the collateral will need to be mailed to you?

lol, I love you too sweety, now grab my pocket and get in your place

Gay and Dumb...  Do you even know what a collateral is?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Collateral+Definition

Its love that was wrapped in a biscuit that daddy forced you to eat with your bum, yes cuppy cake I do know what collateral is

No you don't.  A collateral is "something pledged as security for repayment"

That means if you default the loan,  the lender should be able to sell that collateral and it should be able to return the initial amount loaned.  I guess you love stalking me too ;)  Lotsa people do.

Aww how sweet you got the definition for me. Stalking you oh yes, you got me. On a thread I posted I have no idea why I would keep posting replys. Almost to you 1 btc payout from Stunna? keep posting buddy youll get there.

As a matter of fact it's from bit777.  I'm telling you and warning potential loaners that loaning you is a risk.  But I'm pretty sure they aren't stupid.  Why are you using such sweet words?  I find it funny :)

Aww waiting for your payment from seals, too?  You cutie!

Thank your for that, I have no indicators of a loaning risk, I have made purchases on this forum, also have sold BTC in this forum for Money pak. So do what you do, any real lender can see you just post to get paid. My posts are not dictated by my signature, meaning I only post thing that are relevant to me. Not just posting to reach a specific number so I get paid.

I remember last week, you complaining about 0.01BTC the cost of my copy paste quarker scrypt. So I give it too you, then you were to dumb to figure out how to copy and paste a code, so I had to make a video to show you how it was done. Hell you got free quark outta the deal and your still butthurt.  I love you man, it don't matter that your parents don't.

I don't want to thread jack this anymore.  I'll leave it to the loaners to decide.  Why?  I can not tollerate you, you are an escuse for an adult.  Bring insults about my family into this, why?  Why not insult me directly?  Anyways, this is what ignore was for +1

::hands tissue:: Its ok youngbuck, usually the ones that are so negative didn't get enough love as a child. It will get better bro, swimming in a sea of negativity you rarely get ahead. Stop trying to troll folks and go about your business. Contribute to the forum to help bring new blood into the Cryptocoin world, no one wants to get involved with anything that involves real money, when youngsters run around acting like they are someone they are not. Its ok to be the low man on the Totem pole. Just give 100% of positive effort and you will be rewarded. Sorry if I stuck a nerve, you gotta give some people the benefit of doubt, yes this forum is loaded with trolls and scammers, Ive done by best to avoid them and take the high road.


As for the loan, I know it was a long shot. Im gratefull that there are people that will lend but so many crooked people has ruined the opportunity for those willing to repay. I still would like to get the loan, I am attempting to have a back up plan if the loan doesn't come threw on this forum.  Collateral on here is completely different from a bank, It seem on here I have to mail you an item as collateral. With a bank the serial numbers are written in a contract for the items as collateral, when the loan defaults collateral is collected.

If that type of collateral contract is available, Ill put up my Xbox 360 and PS3, written in contract with serials, pics(proof I own it) willing to print sign and fax originals with copy of my id. This will hold up in court, Judge orders me to give you the 360 and PS3 and pay court cost.

Getting verified for BTCjam at the moment, will post links soon

No collateral No loan

i3lome can't seems to understand that, although he claims to be an adult.  I guess he is, but seriously...
He did state his PS3 and XBOX would be up for collateral, I keep on trying to explain to him, but I guess he'll only listen to hero members.

Court costs...  How can we "sue" you with only an ID?  I am actually  inexperienced in this field, so would love it if you could explain to me in a formal manner.

Public loan request fails.
Requesting party claims "filled and repaid in time" once he failed getting public interest.
Dubious, at least. :D

Where do you see "filled and repaid in time" No one has show no interest so 5BTC to be repaid for 30days, its in the OP

Then maybe you should rephrase with "to be repaid". ;D

Since you cant read

TO loan issuer I will provide, My complete complete identity, photo scan government id, A written contract between the lender and seller containing serials and photos of the objects to be held for collateral. Outlined with the dates for payment due. My home phone will be available for you to fax the contract to so I Can sign and return fax it to you. So all in all, you get all the information about me and you will have a copy of a contract. Court cost can be written into the contract, where I will pay all cost associated with legal matters.

sorry, phraseing was change, Monbox trolling me is driving me crazy. Im not sure why he is busting my balls over a loan he cant cover. He has a 35mbtc loan request that he cant get covered..

Considering court costs, lawyer, the cost to serve you, and filing costs alone, I do not see how this would be a "secure" loan.
Even if a cost of litigation clause is written into the contract, it's too risky. You can easily be sending a Photoshopped ID and signing with a fake name.
Only way to overcome this is have it notarized and even then the lender would have to verify it was genuinely notarized.

Either you send your collateral physically via mail to an escrow or third party, and they hold it until loan is complete, or it makes no sense.

As the point would show.  I was wondering about that myself,  I am not trying to troll you i3lome, although I have great experience of it by playing a few casual games ;)

Sending and Item for collateral, is a risk in itself.

For example

Monbux- Wanted collateral to cover the loan. If I was to mail him xbox 360 and ps3 to hold.  Then it turns out Monbux, didn't have the coin to cover the loan. Essentially I just mailed him a free Xbox and PS3.

Then Im out $500 worth of electronics, cause he pretended to be a legit lender.


I will be suppling enough info to prove I am who I say I am, which can be verified. Yes court cost and legal matter can get expensive and aslong as it written that I will pay the fund in the contract, it will stand in court.

Yes, it is a pain to do things legally, but the collateral system is flawed. Even when getting a loan from the bank, collateral is collected via a contract, when and if the loan defaults the collateral is collected. Right now with the current system collateral, what keeps a person from putting up something they never intend to get back. Basically they can sell the item under Loan terms. Get overprice loan for the item, use said item as collateral that they never intend to get back.

I have items that I tried to sell on this forum, I could easily have listed them as collateral, then would have another reason to be trolled.

Im trying to go buy forum standard and trying do go about things the right way.  Some of the stuff is far fetched thought.

I said put the collateral up with a trusted third party.

I'm sure John K would gladly hold your Xbox until you finish paying it back.


OMG, I just thought of something genius. I'm going to start the world's first Bitcoin Pawnshop. For real....

BRB I'm going to start the website.

Essentially?  lol what he means is that he didn't ship it, or even consider shipping it.  I'll admit to not having 4 BTC, which is not embarrassing at all as for you don't have 4 BTC either :)

I could go and buy it at BTCquick or something - I definitely have the funds to, and I would if I wanted to loan you as for 4 BTC to 5 BTC in 7 days is a super high interest.

I do not find you whatsoever a scam.  I found your insults to me a bit lame though, but that's it.  You've got the spunk, and you're not giving up, good for you.  I'll repeat myself though, I did not try to troll you. 

Sorry over looked that.

Pawnshop, good idea. Good luck with that

Dude your right , I didn't ship anything or consider shipping to you. Man you should be a detective, what give it away that I don't have the 4 BTC right now. The loan request asking for the 4 btc I need. You got me, I don't have it.

Why do you love calling me a scammer without proof lulz?
Like, just a tiny bit of evidence will do.  Posts?  By calling me a scammer, you are identifying me as "swindler: a person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud."  Which is "Use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions"  Did I take any money or possessions of someone without their courtesy, or did not pay back?  I only got a micro-loan once, and paid back in an hour...  That was it.

You will never get the point, you deflect and ignore comment that bother you.  Ill use you own terms
swindler: a person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud
When you pose as a potential lender- Portraying you are capable of the said loan.  Then reject a loan request to do collateral. **Still acting like you are capable of giving a 4btc loan.

In real life and proof from your own post. You request a loan(35mbtc) cause you cant meet the minimum withdraw at BTC-E.

Now why comment "no collateral no loan" when you cant cover the loan in the first place.

Breakdown- Monbux-used deception to pose as a lender, when infact he was not able to cover the loan in the first place.

Did you just not see my post up there, how I said I could get the coins, and I do not have 4 BTC on me at the moment?  I'm sorry if I caused you trouble, but you are the real scammer.  I was bored, and thought it would be fun to do a bit of gambling...  I would have sent the codes first to boelens anyways.  Anyways, I'm tired, it's gunna be ignore for you, I suggest you do the same for me so we can give those hero members who are just lurking on this post laughing their heads off a rest.

Yes pumpkin, I did see where you claim you could have gotten the money. Also another Check Marks for scammy activity, people normaly do try to cover up when they get their bullshit called.

Hero members- ;D  :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
I hope you enjoyed the show, also anyone else that is reading. Hope you beware of Mr Monbux. Please review his post and the content and context of what he says. Like me you should be able to tell he is bogus.

I may not get my loan but atleast the community will know, that dealing with you is like dropping the soap in prison. You may get fuqqed and not want it.

Todalloooo, cupcake

You may have to do some looking around but there is a website that is for loans for bitcoin. If i come across it i will post up. What rate are you going by on your BTC?

Found it. https://btcjam.com/

Right now Im wating for my documents to be verified by BTCJam. Leaning toward 10% to 15% intrest repayment. Ill do the math to try to get total interest to be worth it to the lender. Worst case senario Ill have to wait a week and hope they have blades in stock.

Would love to order ahead of time to ensure I get my order taken care of. Ive already contacted the seller to see if I can reserve 1 blade, with a deposit, he is unwilling to do so.

With my luck, he will be sold out by time my funding becomes available.

I am unsure as to how you are mining your coins however BTCGuild has them also.

Right now  I have 3 block erupters mining.
I have
95,000 ASC now and counting
10,000 zet
3,000 tgc.

Thats what im mining now.

Not what I had ment. I had ment as in solo mining or pool mining. Sorry for not being more clear about that. As I had said that BTCGuild pool has the blades you are wanting. However you must be a member of the pool to get them. You can try to pm eleuthria (owner-BTCGuild) and see if he will sell you one outside of the pool. He is very nice and helpful.

Oh yes, Im pool mining. I have a source lined up to get the blade, the same I have ordered BE from. My worry is my funding wont clear before he sells out. Id rather go threw the same guy since Ive already done business with him and know for sure he ships.

https://btcjam.com/listings/6916

Trying to go about this the right way. BTCjam listing above if anyone willing to help out

Check your PM.

Waiting on lenders decision now.

In a way your depriving bit777 of their advertising revenue.   Your spammyness has gone through the roof since you took on their signature.

Tiny bit of evidence could be you posting in bit777 thread on Aug29th saying you had 297 posts at that point.   So, from June 29th (your register day) until Aug 29th you had 297 posts.   Then, in the past 2.5 weeks you now have 1121.   Many 5 word responses and useless posts.  So is that not defrauding someone?  Nevermind the fking annoying shit we have to read from these signature spam bots.   Or, am I wrong and you just got suddenly very interested in the lending, gambling, newbie subforums of the board.

Just sayin.  You asked.

So an Update,

AndrewWilliams is the possible lender, we have been in contact and I believe to have met his terms and then. I stopped hearing from him after transfer a  copy of my DL and Car Registration.

Please Contact me -AndrewWilliams,

I actually apologize to i3lome for posting here, he wouldn't want me here, but I am trying my best to post quality posts, as you can see from now on.  The summer was a shitload of boredom, so I spent a few hours a day sitting at the computer, looking through bitcointalk.  Before that, I was too busy with everything else.  Like life.

I am writing up another contract. I showed the one submitted to me to a friend who is an attorney and he said it's not up to par. (no fault of i3lome).

So I should have a rewritten version available by end of today.

Also, I received driver license but am waiting on the second form of ID.

Andrew,

What are you going to do with his ID if he doesn't repay the loan?  BTCJam has everyone's documentation and legal contracts and people still scam over there everyday.

Waiting on a second form of ID?  This is the first Im hearing of this? What type of ID will you be expecting so I can go ahead and Submit it to you.

Good question :)



I have already verified that the address on his license belongs to his family.

My friend is an attorney. He is helping me write up the new contract. Basically if he doesn't pay me back my attorney friend will be able to file against him and request summary judgement.


I won't go into many more details here, but basically I don't think he has the intention, or a lack of intelligence, to do something that foolish.

And you're willing to do the same to Professor James Moriarty?

You think your lawyer will want to get involved over $30?

There is also something about coming to court "with clean hands".  The courts will not appreciate your loan shark rates and may rule against you.

Check your PMs bro. It asks for multiple forms of ID, not just license.

Acceptable for of second ID:

Current Car Registration
Utility Bills
Voided Check

While I understand you making it a point to display all the possible ways where a lender can be ripped off. You have never attempted to inform a Borrower what a person should be carefull of not to get scammed. Some may think that since Im only revealing my personal information there is now risk. It wont take much to steal and identity these days

I'm not accusing no one of anything but the possibility is there. So it seems only fair in your quest to prevent a scam you may warn both sides of the risks.

Ok, Current car registation is what I will use. Please allow me a few minutes to get the scan taken care of and sent

Professor is a microloan, and he would be dealt in a different way if he defaults.



My other friend is a bail bondsman well-versed in skip tracing. If anyone think they can run, they are sadly mistaken.

Very true.  Be careful what you send him.  The fact he wants to loan 0.3btc to Professor James Moriarty when that is almost probably a scam AND some of the items he is asking for, makes me wary of him.

WTF? The borrower could easily be sending me someone elses documents. It's up to me to do my research and make sure he is who he says he is before I lend a Satoshi.


How is Professor a scam? He has over 5 successful trades posted.


Vod, you should really think before you type.

No he doesn't.


I'll say the same to you.  You claim to have a "lawyer" who will help you in court, when any lawyer would tell you the interest rates you are charging are illegal, so you won't have a valid contract anyway.  Doesn't make sense, and when it doesn't make sense, chances are it's not true.

Keep your nonsense to yourself. Interest is not being charged. It is an exchange of currency.

Unlike you, I actually know what I'm talking about.  Just because you don't have any friends of a professional nature, doesn't mean you have to rain on people who do.


EDIT:

I read some of your other posts, you seem like someone trying to help people, but there is a line between watching out for the best interests of people and needlessly accusing people.

LOL.  Did your "lawyer" tell you that too?    :D


Posting in case he deletes:

It's so funny how his "friend" would be willing to help him for such little cases.  perhaps it is a very bad, unemployed lawyer ;D

How come the ID was not given to escrow, and escrow would release the ID if loaner defaults?  I know it's risky like that, and the ID might be fake - but in my opinion that would be more safe for i3lome.

AndrewWilliams, check PM. Current registration has been sent to you.



To those concerned, the Repayment deal does seem high. I agree whole heartly with the terms and the repayment amount. Like everyone says nothing in life is free.

Like any other loans the lack of collateral presents a risk, and with risk comes reward. Andrew is willing to take that risk, and I will not let him down.

Ive been open and honest with my intentions and have tried to meet the requirments in a timely manner. I plan on being around the scene for a long time. Andrew is the only person willing to give me a chance to prove I am worthy. I am greatful and will publicly post the progress of the loan so everyone can see.

My thoughts escrow would have been awesome but I with Andrew taking the monetary risk, i felt i could risk my identity to trust him. As for fake id-the holograms are visable and noticable in the scan,

This will not end well.

Vod, you're a troll and an idiot.

LOL? What is so funny? You come here, on someone else's request for a loan, and proceed the thread crap on the only willing lender.

Then, when you type something dumb about me having a friend who is an attorney, you get mad I defend myself and leave me negative feedback, even though you've never done business with me.

You disagree with what I say, so you leave me bad feedback when we've never traded.



The deal with i3lome is off until you remove your negative feedback Vod, you troll.

Good job chasing away the only willing lender, and someone who actually knows what the hell he is doing on this forum. Twat.

And i3lome, stop feeding the trolls. All it gets you is a dead deal.

I did specify that I risked 0.0, so that means we never traded.

I don't trust you.  You are making up stories that do not make sense.  

Have your lawyer friend email me so I can prove he is legit.  Then I would be happy to remove my negative trust.

I don't understand what someone else's feedback has to do with you not fulfilling the loan you agreed to, after the borrower sent you sensitive information.

Op, you better hope this guy is not stealing your identity. This was fucked from the get go.

i3lome, will you see who's the troll?  It's Andrew.  I feel a bad for you, this could be identity theft.  I have no proof, that's just what i'll assume.
Vod is warning other loaners and lenders, what is right and wrong.  He does not have proof, but I feel like you don't need proof to express an opinion.

See, now you won't loan, BUT you still have the ID...

I won't make anymore claims, but Andrew, not loaning someone when you have their ID, that's kinda... fucked up.
I understand you might be pissed a Vod, but what does i3lome have to do with that?

What the f--- is wrong with you?

What's a matter, you don't have any friends??? My friend is a bad attorney because he is helping me???

OMG, it's like you WANT to scare successful people away from this Bitcoin forum. Loser.


You know, just cause your a loser doesn't mean you have to deflect all those feelings on others.

Vod is doing enough of that.

Can you remove the negative feedback, AndrewWilliams has done nothing wrong, This is my deal and I do not feel that I have been scammed. There are other lenders out asking the same information.

While i have disclosed who I really am and provided documents, HE has NEVER asked for the one KEY that he needs to take an Identity.

AndrewWilliams is only trying to protect himself, that is no Reason for Negative trust

Swearing constantly and calling other losers...  Gee, I wouldn't give you any of my info even if you paid me (hehe).  But I won't bother you anymore,  I'll just watch how this turns out.  That's one off your list :)  BUT i3lome does still stand up for you, and that's enough for me.  I won't take any side, but I still want to see how this turns out.  It'll probably be a happy ending, after all.

I will remove the negative trust as I offered.  His claim of having a lawyer for a friend greatly increases his validity on this site (makes him more trustworthy), so I'm sure you'll agree it's important to verify that the person actually exists.

There is no reason why AndrewWilliams should not loan to you after receiving your personal information - it's certainly the opposite of what any lawyer friend would suggest.  

How are those feedbacks trolls?

Remove it then.

I only talked about the attorney, AFTER borrower had already sent over info and consented to the deal. I had nothing to benefit from it when I posted it.

Oh, and guess what, I only mentioned the attorney friend WHEN YOU ASKED!

Please stop speculating. It does not help anyone, just causes chaos.

What is the name of the law firm your friend works for, so I can recognize the email when it comes in?

By you not agreeing to loan money AFTER you took his personal information, you are harming your reputation even more.  Priorities, man!

Thank you i3lome.

Wow this went horribly wrong but have a possible solutions to clear everything up.

Since no one has dont anything wrong, can we pick up where we left off.

I sent the required documents before the clusterfrick of posts.

Can we all agree on one thing

Documents Provide- Done
Awaiting Negative Feedback Removal.
Loan Given.

To clear up everything,

Can either the loan be issued, that way Vod, can removed the negative feedback. Since everything is being done as agreed between AndrewWilliam and me.

Why did you send negative feedback back to Vod?  That says you risked 1 bitcoin.  Now, did that actually happen?

I am not going to send YOU any info about my friend. I don't have to prove who my friends are, troll.

I'm certainly not doing anything of the kind, exposing real life friends on a thread where you attack me and accuse me of things which are stupid and false.

It seems all you are interested in doing is harming my reputation.

Priorities? I see yours are shoot first, ask questions later.



Remove your negative feedback, and I will continue the loan. Otherwise I'm not lifting another finger

This is NOT guilty until proven innocent.

I offered to remove the feedback if he had his "lawyer" contact me.  His response was to leave me negative feedback as well (yes, after boldly complaining how I left him negative feedback he decides to play the hypocrite lol)

Since I doubt he will ever provide proof, looks like you got scammed i3lome  :(


Nope - he never risked any bitcoin as I have never dealt with him.  He's a scammer.  :)

Not exactly roves he's a scammer - but makes me wonder.  Why would you lie about the amount of BTC risked?  To make Vod look more like a scammer?

Excellent.  I've made the forum safer.   :)

Just a word to future scammers - if you come on here and lie to make yourself look more credible, EXPECT to be asked for proof.

I am not here to submit to your whims, loser.

Yes, IF YOU LEAVE ME BAD FEEDBACK UNFOUNDED, I WILL DO THE SAME!

Truth be told, you have the mentality of a 12 year old. Seriously.



It's my first time leaving feedback, I did not know you could leave feedback on a 0 sum transaction, my mistake. I'll fix it if someone shows me how.

Only scammer is you, dumb ass troll.



Look what troll Vod changed in the feedback:

AndrewWilliams -5: -1 / +0(0)   2013-09-20   0.00000000      Claims to have a lawyer friend to boost his credibility, but will not provide proof.



i3lome, the truth is Vod does not care about your loan, or about any real scammers.

He wants to feel like he is big man on campus by leaving me bad feedback because I have a friend who is an attorney.
Obviously Vod has no life, and feels the need to validate his pathetic life on a web forum, by demanding other members have their attorney friends call him.

I changed my description to be more clear.  Now it is not unfounded feedback, so you can remove yours.   :D

We both left negative feedback for each other - the difference between us is I'll take my feedback as a man instead of crying and complaining - like a 12 year old?  Hypocrite.   ;)

Monbux fuck off duede go get your posts somwhere else

Hey vod.  Look at my feedback please.

I send a pm with screenshots to the guy who left it, can I send you that pm, and you tell me if he should remove his feedback?

I can't force him to remove feedback, but don't worry about it - it's not affecting your trust level in any way.  :)

Just want to make sure that my side is shown, and I provided all the proof to show that his feedback is unwarranted and ridiculous.

I appreciate you taking the time. 

LOL - look at this feedback I have received simply for commenting "I think this loan request is a joke" in a thread.


Scammers are going to do everything possible to screw you over.  Unless they have trust in the community, it won't affect your rating.

Vod, that feedback is crap, the documents that were givin arnt near enough to have my identity stolen.

You feedback holds no merit and you dont know exactly what files i did send, so your fliggin shit at the wall to see what sticks.

Again, I have a Uncle that is a Virginia State Trooper thats a cop, and am related to a lawyer. There should be enough grounds to lable me a scammer according to your values.

This is totally wrong your falsly accusing someone with no proof. So i ask you can you remove the feedback, we will have proof either way it goes, Not just some false assumtion.

I am the one that already sent and agreed to the terms, THis transaction has nothing do to with you VOD, as u have already denied my loan and moved on.

To Troll Vod: Guess what dip $hit, you reputation is red, and guess what, it's going to stay that way until you remove your troll feedback from mine.



i3lome, exactly. This guy is a joke. Is he seriously going to give negative feedback to anyone who says they have friends that are attorneys or other professionals?

And the fact that Vod denied your loan just adds to the appearance that he is trying to kill this deal in spite.

This just reeks of jealousy...

Yes you do.  You claimed to have an attorney friend to make yourself look credible so people will trust you more.  That is something scammers do.

Either you prove it, or as far as I am concerned you are a scammer.

Have a good night, just not here.   :)

You taking shit out of context,

He said he had a friend look over it, getting a second opinion. Weather his friend is lawyer, cop, dog, President or the pope doest matter.
Askin someone if a document will hold up in court, that happens to be a lawyer is not trying to make himself look credible.

I'm not taking any sides, if you had to come to the desperate "fuck off" you must really want this loan.  I won't bother you anymore, at least for now :)

copy and paste the words you said (meh) and repost it...

VOD well since you have had a hand im making sure I dont get the loan I need, Can I provide you with the same documents that Andrew Accepted. And you cover my loan.

I have a thought...was this two scammers trying to scam each other?????  

One for btc, one for information and docs.  Just a thought.

Bro, get off my thread and eat a dick, you see all this clustefuck going on now you wanna nose it, drop your 2 cents to feel like the bigger man.

Am I?  He's clearly lying about have an attorney for a friend, since there would be no harm in having the attorney email me.  What am I going to do = harass a lawyer?   :D


Forum Member - "Hmmm, he is working with a lawyer, I feel safer sending him my personal information."

Do you see why we MUST ask for proof when people make such claims?

Vod is an equal opportunity destroyer. If there is a way for him to fuck something, up he will.


I'm going back to my real life. Something Vod lacks and tries to make up for on the internet. It really is pathetic when you think about it.



i3lome I may still loan to you, but I am going to have to do it with a clear head. Having idiots like this attack someone like me, who is trying to help the community is troubling. I hope most others on this forum are not so pathetic.



Vod, you are delirious if you think I am going to subject one of my friends to having to deal with your screwed up ass. You are nothing but scum.

AGAIN, NO WAY IN HELL IS MY FRIEND GOING TO CALL YOU. SORRY LOSER, I KNOW YOUR LIFE IS LAME, BUT, NO. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE, SERIOUSLY.

YOU ARE ASSUMING TALKING TO AN ATTORNEY IS DIFFICULT. IT IS NOT. PERHAPS IF YOU GOT OFF YOUR FAT, PETER GRIFFIN ASS, YOU WOULD KNOW THIS.


If I saw you in real life, you wouldn't dare say those things to my face.

But then again, if I saw YOU in real life, I would have nothing to do with you.

Sorry about all this bullshit, If you can do the loan I would appreciate it. If not I completly understand.

So since you have killed my loan, can you give me the loan with the exact same information that I have given Andrew then you can determine if one could steal my identity

How did I kill your loan?  Do you not understand - the guy is a scammer.  He was never going to send you any BTC.  He would have sent you another PM saying the lawyer wants your SSN just for the records and boom - you would have your identity stolen.  Look at his language - he is neither mature or professional.

That being said, I only give loans with collateral.  Like I asked Andrew at the start of all this, what would I do with your ID should you not pay me back?

You could ask for his social and steal his iden.........

Oh wait... Lol

Collateral makes ID confirmation requests obsolete.

And there goes the rage - you got no loan, you gave your ID away, and you can't even get me off this topic.  I'm in a free country, I was talking like a formal man, but no fucking more.  why the fuck do you hate me so much anyways?  Or do you just hate people who don't give you money?

You tread people like Vod with more respect - just because he is a hero member?  No offence on Vod whatsoever.  
You should learn to respect people...

I had suggested before (which you didn't listen to, of course) that we both just ignore each other with the ignore button.  a lot of stress is taken away on both sides.

Don't give into the profanity dude - it's a sign of a weak mind.  Be the better man.    :)

This guy has not scammed anyone, you have no proof. That's why you keep resorting to the "he said he has a lawyer friend"   He has never asked for my SSN and his language doesn't mean anything. We are in a public environment, not a professional setting so word usage means nothing. The fact that you bring up you speak professional earns you a scammer tag by your own standards.

Your basing your decisions off of what if's. He has never asked for anything that would give control of my identy and yet BTCjam and other lenders require similar if not more information. Why would you wait till I give the last file to get my loan to start bulling a user. As a professional, you should no making accusations based off something you have no knowledge of is childish.

As  being a Professional you would already, a lawyer is not goin to take his time to call or email a person to appease some random user on a chat forum. So shows that you are not interested in Good users or Scam user, just to exercise some bogus control issue you have

GOOD!  Sounds like you two see eye to eye.  Give him your info, and he'll give you a loan, and you two can neg rep me and talk about me all you want over coffee.   He should be lending to you just because you have a common enemy!   :D

You are either ripe to get scammed, or just looking for free btc.

Monbux, I hate posers that's it. Your actions fit the profile. Not made I didn't get the money cause Ill have the money in my account on the 25th like the original post states. It just pisses me off trying to go by Forum standard to get a loan and do everything proper. TO have a bunch of idiots come in and muddy up shit.

Thank you for another contribution from the peanut gallery,

I tried - and failed.  I tried to ignore, but then again I saw his comments about me - I couldn't resist, he loves insulting me and my family :/

If these people piss you off, ignore them or leave.  Cause they ain't gunna listen to you.


You called me a scammer - I said the exact same thing.  Yet you still called me a scammer. :/  Follow your own words, eh?  I'll be ignoring this thrad from now on.

Monbux- damn dude I walked away on the other thread cause for one your too stupid to remember what you post or too lazy to go back threw and read what you have posted. If have persisted on messing with me after I called you on your bullshit.

I posted a Paintball gun for sell on the forum and you bid 0.001 i laughed and suggested 0.01 start bid which you lol'd and agreed, then proceded to ask for shipping discount which was 0.10 shipped to start with then back out cause reviews for the gun were crappy. THat was koo let that go

I also posted a VPS Quarker script that let you "Mine for free" i had listed for 0.01 btc(later just gave away)
Not only did i get crap from you about, How is it free when i have to buy it type shit. Like i said you pay for the information on how to mine for free.. I then offered to let a user try it out and report back which was you. I set up the VPS quarker mining to your quark address then PM you the Coding to get it working then having to give you tech support cause you couldnt copy and paste following the directions.Also told you the work around to get more Free Linode trail. So I took the time a made a video for you showing you step by step how to copy and past the code in. Never recieved a response or thank you, I did get the "thank you, he sent me 36 quark" post in the forum.

That was not correct. Your wallet showed you mined those coins and im sure a few more than 36, but I didnt send quark the vps mined for you like it was supposed to but you conveid that I paid you.

Let that go, now here we are after the 0.11btc for Paintball gun being too high, too 0.01btc too expencive. You proceed to deny me for 4 btc lan, which clearly you are not capable of doing. Yes, you said you could buy in, but couldnt anyone if they wanted to. Then you make fun of my collateral options while battling me on the syntax of the collatral definition.

I tried to let you know that collateral is something the borrow intends to get back. On this forum collateral is the Loan amount plus 20% in litecoins or similar. Some do the mail item to Escrow, blah blah blah.

Honestly if I had the amount I was trying to borrow in LTC, the solution is simple Sell the LTC to cover cost and make purchase.No loan no bullshit.

In real life, with a bank loan collateral is a contract. You go home and list the Serials of the items and return to the bank with the agreement"

ie- If i dont pay as agreed, the loan is in default and the lender now owns the items listed. IE flatscreen, xboxs, ps3, etc. also fine print contains borrower must pay court fees yada yadaa. Yes, if borrower doesnt want to volunteer said items, YOu have to goto court and get it settled, and the lender gets the items anyway. Borrower is better off turning over items instead of thousands in court fees, lawyers.

I understand that Loans bait scammers and preditors, but whats the point of jumping through every hoop thats set out only to be cut down but those that are scared and unwilling to take the risk. Put you big girl panties on and accept there is risk and stop CRYING wolf before anything happens

IF both parties are willing to accept the risk and do whats asked other users should set back and watch. Let what about to happen, happen. You may be suprised, if you were right the whole time there is your chance for I told you.
To many butt sore users make this scene look like a shady back ally where I will be raped, robbed and left for dead. Just like in real life there are some bad people which ruin it for the rest of us.

So Monbux buddy, Forehead kiss, take it easy in real life and make good choices. I dont hate or not like you as a person but your Monbux costume comes of kinda like an ass. Sorry about the remarks about your family and anything personal i said

Congrats on doing the right thing!  

Do you feel better getting all that off your chest?  Now you can concentrate on the next forum member!   ;)

How dumb are you? I was lending to i3lome before your stupid ass started causing trouble on this thread. What part of piss off don't you understand?


The next forum member? It looks like YOU are the only idiot giving negative feedback without cause, cunt.

Don't worry - I don't think we're anywhere close to the same intelligence.   ;)

To summarize:  i3lome got his loan and you and I left negative feedback for each other.  

I'm closing the book on this very productive chapter.   :)

You got that right. Your IQ is about as low as you can get without being comatose.

Must be hard living with such a mental handicap. But enough about you.




Are you going to remove your negative feedback, to which I will remove yours, or are you going to continue to act like a douche?

That would show other scammers they can have negative feedback removed by extortion.  No thanks.

Re-read all your personal attacks against me (and many others) today and understand we don't live in a world without consequence.

Only scammer here is you, you self righteous prick.

Yes, consequences are real and that is why you have negative feedback, troll. You lie and smear, you pay, see how that works?

 Looks like the Canadian frost has gotten the better of your little amoeba you call a brain. Good luck in life, you'll need it.

AndrewWilliams, I want to thank you for still going ahead as planned.  Dont really want to spark off nothing so I just want to keep it short

Payment address is the same as the signature.

1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB

Will confirm when funds arrive, hoping soon. I got about 2 hours to get order placed

Funded.

4 BTC Sent.

5.25 BTC due in 30 days.


https://blockchain.info/address/1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB (https://blockchain.info/address/1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB)

Received. Waiting on slow Btc confirms

Awaiting repayment.



Additional time has been given to i3lome to repay at a minimal penalty. Hoping for payment soon...

Quoted for... ?  ;D

Do you read anything you post?

Everything written is true, so perhaps you should just butt out at this point.



Stop trolling. Thanks.

Well then...

Looks like I should read this thread now.  

Edit:  Definitely should have found something better to read on my lunch break.

He thinks everything is true.  He also thinks virgins get pregnant.   ;)


What a classy guy, eh?  Hoping I would spend all eternity being tortured. 

Hey, your summary is very "Top Class' ;D
But hey, don't drag me into it AGAIN xD

I thought you liked torture?  I mean why else would you be reading through the Lending section on this forum? :P

Torture is fine.   ;)  It's fun if you are with the right person.

But an eternity of torture all for a couple weeks or so of arguing?  

That's like my telling you to fuck off, and then you spending the rest of your life (and brainwashing your children to continue) killing all my relatives and friends.   Kind of overkill, but I guess that's how their cult keeps it's members loyal.   :)

Or I could just kill your parents and then make them into chili and feed it to you....

That would be over pretty quick, so it doesn't exactly match the definition of "eternity".

You need to think of an overreaction that goes on forever.   Kind of like one person eating an apple and the rest of humanity being punished for it, for all time.    ::)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7aexvlNOU1qjrnzl.gif

Ooops! Did I interrupt? Was that a party, or something?

Oops, looks like someone let Vod out of his troll cage.




Reading it now it seems silly to wish Vod burn in hell for what he said.

But then again, he did really make me angry with his senseless comments and outright lies. Oh, attacking my religion didn't endear me to him either.




I think making fun of Christianity falls under the category of "really stupid," but apparently Vod thinks it is a "cool" thing to do.

What's a matter Vod, I thought you don't believe in hell?

Calling Christianity a cult, saying Christianity is brainwashing, and so on, no one asked for your opinion. But it sure is telling about how depraved you are.


BTW, the only "cult" member here is you. What are you a wickan? A pagan? Or just mentally deranged? Maybe you're one of those wack jobs like Oprah that believes they are their own God.


At the end of it, I did offer him a cease fire. He did stop for a while, but has kept his incorrect feedback, and lies about me asking for social security numbers, on my trust profile. He always said he was going to show his "proof" and never did, because it's an outright lie. Now he's back trolling again...

Anyways, it's nice to know my faith bothers him so much.

I must be doing something right :)

Hey Vod, go to church this Sunday. I dare you. You might just learn something about yourself and the root of your anger.

It's okay. Let the anger subside, breathe, slowly, breathe. That's better. :D



BTW, I rescind my statement for Vod to burn in hell. If anything, I should pray for him to become a better person. Rebuke is not out of the equation though.

Obviously this is between him and God, whether he believes in God or not.

Carry on.

Just re-read this thread, seeing as this loan is now overdue.  Comedy gold!   ;D

Despite your stupidity Andrew, it's not fair and I have left negative feedback on his profile.