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Title: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 12:56:54 AM
1/14 update: We've requested a full BTC refund via our legal representatives. For those that bought in BTC, we're fighting to get you back your full BTC refund (minus a legal fee spread amongst R1-4).

Please see page 15 for more details.

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9/24, Tuesday Update: The 72 Hour HashFast Sale is OVER! However, the only place you can still get Flash Sale pricing until Friday is: HERE. ;D

Round 4, non-MPP Sierra: 98 93 90 78 69 59 54 47 43 18 ZERO shares available!

Wow! 2 Sierras sold in 5 days! Thank you everyone!

Please PM thomas_s to reserve backup shares in case of non-payment from R4 reservations.

Round 3, MPP Sierra: SOLD OUT.

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    Image Credit:   Original Image  (http://ascii.co.uk/art/wave)  
    Round 3 Spotify Definitive Chill Out Mix (http://open.spotify.com/user/kauaidker/playlist/5h5Syl5AeiMq5QpbBNqLdE)


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                          ..__..-..__...-'   /__/   /__                `_ ~~--..__...----... DZ's Miner Cooperative, Round 2 ..."The little Co-op that could"...


    An At-Cost Democratic Miner Co-operative with the world's lowest fees
    for vetted miner hosting/management services: 2.75%

    ~40 members, 1 Scientist, 4 IT Pros, 2 Network Engineers, 2 Electrical Engineers, 1 Finance Employee, 4 GB Coordinators, so far, with multiple host sites


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    This Co-operative is operated by a John K. vetted Network Engineer based in Hawaii, DyslexicZombei or DZ, who gets to design prototype IT hardware and lab/field networks in support of cutting edge research projects, and has been in the line of work of T&E and R&D for nearly 10 years, with 50-60 Hawaii/US Aerospace/IT/R&D/Civ. Engineering Endorsements on LinkedIn. The backup remote administrator is jungle_dave who is a former Electrical Engineer and Network Engineer. Mining Equipment will be operated by vetted IT pros or a vetted IT college student, with backup host sites available. Payouts are every 2 weeks minus a 2.75% Hosting/Management fee, the lowest around. Once sales begin, Refunds available up until unit ships at 1.5% restock fee. We vote on all buying, shipping, and resale decisions as well as vote on the month to attempt equipment resales after 5-7 months of operations. All suggestions are welcome to help improve our Co-operative.

    • Approx. total value of GBEC / GBC ASIC pre-order sales or pre-sales of shares on this forum by DZ Cooperative in last 6 weeks: $30.2K
    • Approx. value of DZ ebay ASIC sales (including 4 HF Baby Jet shares listed on ebay/BTC Talk GB forum & purchased on ebay worth $620) since Aug.1 : $3.3K
    • Approx. value of ASIC related hardware or services currently listed items on ebay by DZ: $30.5K, selling as a trusted intermediary
    • Several new GBCs and Bitcoin Miner Hosts vetted for free, and several scams pointed out on two BTC related forums.
    • Number of HashFast miners ordered or reserved: 2 Baby Jets, 2 Sierras, 3.2TH/s+ Total

    -Data current as of 9/23/2013

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    We're aiming for the $6,000 Non-MPP HashFast Sierra for Round 4! Includes 20-30 min. UPS backup + Express Early AM delivery + 2.75% host fees.

    24 hours left to try to secure a 2nd Sierra. I worked hard to extend the deadline to Friday by doing down payments on 2 Sierras arranged with John S.. If we don't sell the 69 54 shares remaining, well, we're just going to divvy up the 100 shares from the Round 3 MPP miner.  ;)

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    Tip o' the hat to user Molex1701:

    If you're unfamiliar with GBs, in general: you get 1/100th of whatever hashrate we end up with and the payouts generated from this hashrate minus a 2.75% service fee.

    TL;DR: Your 1 share costing either $69 OR $115 (share price decided by majority vote NOT APPLICABLE for R4, for now) would be worth 12GH/s est. to be delivered on Dec. 1. Your est. HashRate per share will likely be 15GH/s after overclocking, thanks to heavy duty A/C capacity at bobsag3's place in Missouri. I can't guarantee 15GH/s but that's the incremental goal.

    Your 1 share could be worth up to 48GH/s depending on which level of HF's MPP is triggered [Not Applicable for R4]. Share price is rock bottom, and includes 20-30 minutes of backup UPS/battery purchases + bobsag3's 120A Backup Generator on tap for longer outages. We are *NOT* responsible for paying for a 2nd rig out of the co-GBCs pockets. We're also not responsible for late delivery but will seek a total refund if the group votes for this.



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    Round 4 [OPEN]

    9/22 AM update: Darn that bobsag3 fella!  ;D Here I was enjoying a nice peaceful Sunday when I read Bob's latest thread. He's got a point dangit. Anyway since thomas_s had to work but I'm sure it wouldn't exactly break his heart for all of us to buy more at-cost shares for his Industrial Class Rig GB debut as a co-GBC:

    Here's Round 4 since we ran out of shares in Round 3 in 12 hours.

    Shares are priced to move at only $69 each with NO MPP, repeat NO MPP. We can add this later via majority vote ($115 per share) but to secure this order, we're pricing it as $6,000. 1 share = 12-15GH/s est. to be Delivered on December 1.



    Please PM me for soft share reservations. We only have 48 hours left in this sale (actually less).   This co-operative has secured 2 Sierras at Flash Sale pricing via partial deposit tonight with full payment due Friday night.

    Round 3 gents: Please get your funds in for R3 as soon as possible so I can send the largest possible payment for this.

    Round 4 gents:
    ** We only go to actual sales if we reach 85% soft reservations, or 85 shares reserved for Round 4. **

    We aren't going to actual sales on R4 until 85 reservations held. However: if possible, you can send me your BTC for R4 so I can include it in tonight's down payment for 2 Sierras. In the unlikely event that we have to refund the entire R4 miner (or for my other Group Buys), there will be *NO* Restock fee! Just make sure to label your payments with the correct Round #, so I can track your payments.

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    Details at the following link: http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=43a3515a4cff1032dafe95c87&id=9d981903ee&e=1cb2a901a6

    Sept. 21, PM, EDIT, SITE CONFIRMATION: https://hashfast.com/shop/sierra-2/

    Aww yeah! Who were the first GBCs here to offer you a 50%+ reserved 22.9% discounted Sierra?  ;)  :D


    ** If we need to buy a 2nd rig to get to 3.6TH/s or 4.8TH/s if we opt for the MPP: we ALL pay extra for extra hardware according to our share of the miner *if* it's voted that we assemble the miner somewhere instead of selling the extra 3rdX or 4thX chips (assuming we can mount 2X chips in a Sierra). **

    Cheers!

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    [Round 3 INFO BELOW, CLOSED]

    9/21, Early Afternoon, Round 3!

    Who woulda thunk?  ??? Thank you to everyone that participated in Rounds 1 and 2 of my first Group Buys on this forum after 10 years of Ebay electronic re-sales and purchases without incident.

    Only 22 20 16 15 5 ZERO shares out of 100 left! 100 shares reserved in less than 12 hours! This may be a possible GB speed record, if such a thing is tracked.

    Sorry, snooze you lose! First come, first served. You can PM thomas_s. or I for backup shares for R3 as it's possible a few shares may spring free.

    I also may have a few reserve shares on an Aug. 9 HashFast preorder, Order 616. Please PM for backup at-cost shares for R2 or R3.

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    UPDATE: 21 votes for MPP so far. 30 more votes needed for majority win.

    There are currently 47 42 shares available out of 100.

    This Round 3 is being hosted by *two* GBCs with me being the Sr. GBC with override control, and providing remote admin, remote troubleshooting, miner payouts, shipping details, and resales of the R3 unit at possibly the 5-7 month mark of operations. I believe a GB with 2 co-GB Coordinators, is yet another first I may have brought to the GB forum as yet another innovation I've helped introduce.

    Details to follow. Please reserve your at-cost shares below to take advantage of this MPP Sierra at 1.2TH/s+ at $10,800 or $6,000, only for 72 hours.

    Why should you trust me?

    - I've organized 2 at-cost HashFast Group Buys in a democratic, open fashion in a little over a month for HF Orders 616 and 991: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274055.0

    - I run Group Buy Escrow Coordinator Services for the Group Buys / Custom Hardware forum at ultra low costs and faster response time then most any Escrow service available on the GB forum (Disclaimer: I'm only an Escrow Affiliate at BTCrow; not a full Escrow Agent but I can provide what I call are Escrow+ or Escrow Plus services, above and beyond what typcial Bitcoin Escrow services can provide). Please click the GBEC link in my sig for more details on these services for new GBCs. I've also vetted several new GBCs and vetted miner hosts for free. I serve as a hardware neutral advocate for both buyers and sellers and a resource for smaller custom hardware mfgs. that wish to offload customer services to me.

    - I also run 28nm Bitcoin Miner Host Matchmaking Services with International availability and hosting sites with vetted miner hosts in 3 different US states so far at only 2.75%.

    - I put my reputation on the line for any GB or financial transaction that takes place on this forum I'm involved in. Short links about your GBC:

    Why you should trust me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276947.msg2956448#msg2956448

    My online/offline endorsements: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.msg2997877#msg2997877

    Me, as user KauaiDKer, trying to give away a good paying job in paradise at a National Lab in the middle of a recession: http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1373159

    Terms and rules of this third Group Buy in a little over a month, will follow the details of the first 2 Group Buy's details where applicable such as refund terms but will use BTCrow for optional escrow at an 1.5% additional fee instead of John K. Escrow like we did in Round 1 as a mandatory fee.


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    Code:
    Round 3: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale, with MPP. 20-30 minute UPS/Battery Backup built into at-cost share price. Finish edit, 10/10. Excel xfer, 10/11.
     
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

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    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|             Notes                     |
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    |  2   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    PAID    |  / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  1   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST   | World Class vetted Hosting Avail., W/ Lowest hosting costs        |
    |  1   |  a..........m    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  0   |  jungle_dave    | TBA                                 |   N/A   | Backup Admin, former EE/Net. Engineer. Plants trees in Amazon!    |
    |  2   |  firsttimeuser  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |    2 / DZ Co-op Round1 HashFast BabyJet Vetted Miner Host         |
    |  3   |  corather     | 1CkDkXNvfHSMEijiy6X3kYVKZvuibGkCjh |    PAID    |                                                                                               |
    |  1   |  tripppn     | TBA                                 |    PAID   |            Previous co-op member                              |
    |  20  |  -Redacted-  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |         Boxed Set of DZ MC shares                     |                      
    |  4   |  baros008      | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                                                   |
    |  50 |  thomas_s     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Co-GBC / Donated 1.5 Share to R1 member 0.5 to charity  |
    | 10   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | Votes ceded to GBC. Manual override avail. GBC votes last. In R2|
    |  5   |  Tomdraug | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  1   |  Miramym    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  

    100 shares.
    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **


    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. Mahalo!



    Code:
    [DRAFT; finished editing 10/10; xfer to Excel 10/11]

    Round 4: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale, with NO MPP. 20-30 minute UPS/Battery Backup built into at-cost share price.
     
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

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    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|             Notes                     |
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    |  0   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    PAID    |  / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  0   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST   | R3 member. Ultra low cost vetted Hosting/Mng. Fee. 2.75%|
    |  5   |  TomDraug    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  5   |  a..........m    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  0   |  jungle_dave    | TBA                                 |    N/A    | Backup Admin, former EE/Net. Engineer. Plants trees in Amazon!    |
    |  2   |  firsttimeuser  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |    DZ Co-op Round1 HashFast BabyJet Vetted Miner Host         |
    |  1   |  corather     | 1CkDkXNvfHSMEijiy6X3kYVKZvuibGkCjh |    PAID    |                                                                                               |
    |  1   |  vaprx     | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                          |
    |  7  |  -Redacted-  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |         Boxed Set of DZ MC shares                     |                      
    |  6   |  baros008      | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                                                   |
    |  3 |  thomas_s     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Co-GBC / Donated 1.5 R3 Share to R1 member 0.5 to charity  |
    | 10   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | Votes ceded to GBC. Manual override avail. GBC votes last. In R2|
    |  1   |  Miramym    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |   R3 member     |  

    |  23 |  amer     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Largest voter for R4 open major decisions  |
    |  2   |  minerphil | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  10   |  thehun    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  

    |  6  |  wontons    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |      |
    | 5   |  jplacek      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | |
    |  9   |  slayernine | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  2   |  thyatis    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  
    |  2   |  unknown.usr    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |

    100 shares. *Thomas_s and I reduce shares in R4 to solve oversale issue of 3 extra sales.
    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **


    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. Mahalo!




    Title: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 12:57:40 AM
    Reserved for more GB details and payment details.

    Round 3: Price is $115 per share, which will provide $11.3K of purchasing power.


    UPDATE: Update: Here's the calculations without MPP and including the 1RU Control Unit user dropt pointed out: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/82754b484b

    $6K Sierra without MPP vs. $10K with MPP.

    Opening up poll for MPP vs. non-MPP. Please let your opinions be heard & also vote publicly or privately so we can resolve this quickly.

    Pros: non-MPP = lower shares costs by about 40%.

    $69 shares vs. $115 shares (with a promise of up to 200-400% more hashrate).

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    Round 3, Breakdown with MPP, $115 shares:

    $10,800 for HashFast Sierra with MPP (1.2TH/s up to 4.8TH/s)
    ~$200 Next Day Early AM Shipping to Miner Host Facility (open to R3 vote)
    ~$300 for UPS/Battery Backup so the BTC keeps flowing during outages of about 20-30 min. (est.), power sags, and power spikes.

    ** We will vote on final share price for those that think 20-30 min. local battery backup is not enough **

    Round 4, Breakdown without MPP, $69 shares:

    $6000 HashFast 1.2TH/s
    ~$200 Next Day Early AM shipping
    ~$300 for UPS/Battery Backup so the BTC keeps flowing during outages of about 20-30 min. (est.), power sags, and power spikes.

    =============================================================================================



    44 42 22 shares available out of 100!
    Reserve your at-cost shares with UPS backup & 2.75% Hosting/Management fees, the lowest around, before they're all gone! We need to get this number down to 25 before sales will begin for the R3 DZ GB.

    If you want to take advantage of this HashFast Flash Sale at the best BTC per GH/s rate, this at-cost GB is THE ONE, and already has quite a bit of momentum in just a few hours.


    Code:
    Round 3: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale. We need to reach 75 Soft Reservations - no BTC or cash paid - before sales begin. 
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

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    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|            Additional Optional Shares / Notes                     |
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    |  2   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    Pend.   |   7 / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  2   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST?   | World Class vetted Hosting Avail., W/ Lowest hosting costs        |
    |  51  |  thomas_s       | TBA                                 |    Pend.   | Co-GBC for R3, R2 Co-Op Member, 2 shares donated to others!       |
    |  1   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    Pend.   |                                                             |
    |  1   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    Pend.   |                                                                       |
    |  1   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    Pend.   |                                                                       |


    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **
    ** Shares available for payment with or without escrow once share price/mfg. is finalized by majority vote.

    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. I'll clean up the Spreadsheet code in a bit. We're all about speed getting set up at the moment. Mahalo!


    ** By agreeing to participate in this Group Buy, you agree to NOT use your money that was primarily meant for: food, clothing, rent/mortgage, short term emergency funds, car payments, insurance, 401(k), IRAs, or children's college funds. These are considered HIGH RISK purchases of hardware, with funds tied up for weeks, and are NOT meant for those trying to "get rich quick." ** We are also not your financial adviser or attorney so use your own careful judgments in all BTC transactions. **


    Title: Payment Details
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 01:21:34 AM
    Payments will be sent to the following address:

    1C5R7t1XdVPxUBFUnBWJnRPx7ZMZBgnv7L

    For the duration of the fundraising for this R3 GB for a third HashFast miner, this time at a 22.9% discount!

    Refunds available up until shipment date at a 1.5% restock fee. Please PM me or the new co-GBC when he shows up, for questions.

    Round 3: Please feel free to hold off on payments until if/when we get to the 75 share mark. We're about 80% filled in about 8-10 hours! Payments can begin at your leisure, but hopefully before late Monday night.

    Round 4: Payments begin at 25 reservations left (75% filled soft reservations).

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    Payment Details

    There's two payment options for both R3 and R4:

    Non-Escrowed: direct payment to my wallet address: 1C5R7t1XdVPxUBFUnBWJnRPx7ZMZBgnv7L

    Escrowed: 1.5% additional fee. BTC held by BTCrow until manual release by buyer via refund or to finish a completed pre-arranged pre-order.

    As usual, refunds are available up until unit ships at a 1.5% restock fee. Refunds are understandable in emergencies but are discouraged because of the chaos caused within a GB (the GBC has to float your shares and either keep the shares or try to find a new buyer). Update: If the Entire Group refunds because HashFast fails to deliver 100% of your BTC paid will be refunded (except for escrow fees at BTCrow, if utilized).

    ** Please contact user metal_jacke1 if you're interested in PayPal payments for your shares if you're pressed for time & you need PP4BTC GB shares via his pro services, at a fee for this convenience.

    ==

    After payment, follow up with a PM sent to me with the following details:

    Subject: DZ HF R3 GB, X shares, Y BTC, your username
    Details: Transmission ID on Blockchain, preferred wallet address for miner payouts

    OR

    Subject: DZ HF R4 GB, X shares, Y BTC, your username
    Details: Transmission ID on Blockchain, preferred wallet address for miner payouts

    ===

    Update, tip o' the hat to user Molex1701:

    If you're unfamiliar with GBs, in general: you get 1/100th of whatever hashrate we end up with.

    TL;DR: Your 1 share of approximately $115 would be worth 12GH/s est. to be delivered on Dec. 1. Your est. HashRate per share will likely be 15GH/s after overclocking, thanks to heavy duty A/C capacity at bobsag3;s place in Missouri. I can't guarantee 15GH/s but that's the incremental goal.

    Your 1 share could be worth up to 48GH/s depending on which level of HF's MPP is triggered. We are *NOT* responsible for paying for a 2nd rig out of the co-GBCs pockets. We're also not responsible for late delivery but will seek a total refund if the group votes for this.

    ** If we need to buy a 2nd rig to get to 3.6TH/s or 4.8TH/s: we ALL pay extra for extra hardware according to our share of the miner *if* it's voted that we assemble the miner somewhere instead of selling the extra 3rdX or 4thX chips (assuming we can mount 2X chips in a Sierra). **


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 01:23:24 AM
    Dibs on host, + 1 share. Ill pay thru metal when he gets on and have him let you know.
    Also might want to put the $/hash


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 01:23:38 AM
    2nd GBC under DZ's tutelage.

    At least 51 Shares.

    I've done 1 rolling GB on the forums selling AM Erupters  
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288673.msg3092090#msg3092090

    and me  being vetted by DZ from a GB that I was going to run but canceled / refunded all orders that had been paid.
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297037.msg3187458#msg3187458

    I also have 2 shares in R2.


    I have already talked to DZ about part of this but I am making it public. After my short time here on the forums I've seen a lot of people making comments trying to help others, and in a few instances scam others but the amount of communication that DZ has + the people he brings on board his team is just something that I've never expected to see.

    The post that DZ made in R2 about another GB member helping a GB member from R1 that was experiencing difficulties in life moved me with the amount of kindness shown to a complete stranger.

    1 of my purchased shares will go to the R1 GB member
    1 of my purchased shares will go to the R2 GB member that at of the kindness of his/her heart gave a share from R2 to the R1 member.





    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 01:24:26 AM
    2nd GBC under DZ's tutelage.

    At least 51 Shares.

    I've done 1 rolling GB on the forums selling AM Erupters  
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288673.msg3092090#msg3092090

    and me  being vetted by DZ from a GB that I was going to run but canceled / refunded all orders that had been paid.
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297037.msg3187458#msg3187458

    I also have 2 shares in R2.


    I have already talked to DZ about part of this but I am making it public. After my short time here on the forums I've seen a lot of people making comments trying to help others, and in a few instances scam others but the amount of communication that DZ has + the people he brings on board his team is just something that I've never expected to see.

    The post that DZ made in R2 about another GB member helping a GB member from R1 that was experiencing difficulties in life moved me with the amount of kindness shown to a complete stranger.

    1 of my purchased shares will go to the R1 GB member
    1 of my purchased shares will go to the R2 GB member that at of the kindness of his/her heart gave a share from R2 to the R1 member.




    I knew it was you!
    K make that one share paid in BTC, one in fiat thru metal


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 01:25:27 AM
    Dibs on host, + 1 share. Ill pay thru metal when he gets on and have him let you know.
    Also might want to put the $/hash
    OMG bob you've beat me in posts every time I post, lol

    edit* and you did it again



    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 01:27:10 AM
    Dibs on host, + 1 share. Ill pay thru metal when he gets on and have him let you know.
    Also might want to put the $/hash
    OMG bob you've beat me in posts every time I post, lol

    edit* and you did it again


    Im addicted. Dont tell anyone.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 01:48:52 AM
    2nd GBC under DZ's tutelage.

    At least 51 Shares.

    I've done 1 rolling GB on the forums selling AM Erupters  
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288673.msg3092090#msg3092090

    and me  being vetted by DZ from a GB that I was going to run but canceled / refunded all orders that had been paid.
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297037.msg3187458#msg3187458

    I also have 2 shares in R2.


    I have already talked to DZ about part of this but I am making it public. After my short time here on the forums I've seen a lot of people making comments trying to help others, and in a few instances scam others but the amount of communication that DZ has + the people he brings on board his team is just something that I've never expected to see.

    The post that DZ made in R2 about another GB member helping a GB member from R1 that was experiencing difficulties in life moved me with the amount of kindness shown to a complete stranger.

    1 of my purchased shares will go to the R1 GB member
    1 of my purchased shares will go to the R2 GB member that at of the kindness of his/her heart gave a share from R2 to the R1 member.

    I knew it was you!
    K make that one share paid in BTC, one in fiat thru metal

    Nice! Thanks gents! I humbly thank you for your statements of support.

    ...And welcome to your co-Group Buy thomas_s. for a discounted MPP HashFast Sierra!

    thomas_s. can tell you that we might've been the straw that broke the camel's back as far as this price break out of the blue (+ VMC Board difficulties) & rising net. difficulty. I was pleading my case with John S. at HF that this co-op deserved Institutional Discounts for our 3rd at-cost HashFast Group Buy.

    I wish you all the best & you know that I'm here to help. Please feel free to take the lead on this R3 thread with my support as co-GBC and for any dispute resolution.

    Taking a break but I'll BBL. Cheers!

    Please keep those reservations coming! We only have 3 days to take advantage of this flash sale.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 47/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 02:21:53 AM
    Dibs on host, + 1 share. Ill pay thru metal when he gets on and have him let you know.
    Also might want to put the $/hash

    You're the primary host site for the host site at the moment...but this is a representative democracy and if the co-op votes for someone else, say firsttimeuser who does have 24/7 A/C, Security, and recording in addition to $20/month all inclusive electricity, lives a block or two away, can leave anytime, and is home most of the time, then I would have to cede to the will of the majority in this co-operative since we're a representative democracy (except one that actually gets things done).

    I was trying to help him get a refund or sell one or more of his BFL pre-orders so he may have space for one or more rigs now.

    However, since you're set up as a business entity, my vote goes to you, what little they may be, and only available at the end of voting decisions: for bobsag3 as the primary site for hosting and as someone who's business insured and AFAIK is the only person on the forum that has been double vetted.

    Others can come forward to offer a secondary host site in case of emergencies but I already have a backup host site in mind I will contact if there's more reservations that come forward. You'll have to be vetted by me to serve as a host or backup host for any miner that's purchased by our miner's co-operative or for any clients that come forward for potential hosting with vetted miner hosts in my small but growing index of miner hosts.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: dropt on September 22, 2013, 03:16:20 AM
    Regarding this group buy:

    • What are the details regarding the 1U control unit.  Since this is an added cost (which we don't know the value of) how are you accounting for this in your offering?
    • Regarding the extra hash rate supplied by HF in the event the unit does not ROI in 3 months, what has been included in the share price to address the extra cost of supporting hardware (everything but the chip itself)?  If nothing has been accounted for in this capacity, how will this be handled in the future?  If it *is* included in your share pricing, can we assume that the added share cost(s) will be refunded in the event that ROI is met and the extra hash rate is not provided under HF's MPP?
    • If HF fails to provide extra hash rate in the event the purchase does not ROI in 3 months, is the share issuer prepared to purchase said additional hash rate without extra costs being incurred by the share purchaser?


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: tripppn on September 22, 2013, 03:33:07 AM
    So were looking at $113 for 12 GHs?  That is of course if miner protection doesnt kick in


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 03:40:50 AM
    Regarding this group buy:

    • What are the details regarding the 1U control unit.  Since this is an added cost (which we don't know the value of) how are you accounting for this in your offering?
    This unit's going to be remotely administrated and have issued troubleshooted by 2 veteran pro Network Engineers (albeit 1 that is retired).
    • Regarding the extra hash rate supplied by HF in the event the unit does not ROI in 3 months, what has been included in the share price to address the extra cost of supporting hardware (everything but the chip itself)?  If nothing has been accounted for in this capacity, how will this be handled in the future?  If it *is* included in your share pricing, can we assume that the added share cost(s) will be refunded in the event that ROI is met and the extra hash rate is not provided under HF's MPP?
    • If HF fails to provide extra hash rate in the event the purchase does not ROI in 3 months, is the share issuer prepared to purchase said additional hash rate without extra costs being incurred by the share purchaser?

    thomas_s. can chime in & add or correct things as needed but as the IT Technical Lead on R3:

    1. We aren't budgeting for a 1U control unit. I think that's a luxury for just 1 Sierra at this point. We're only looking for a barebones purchase at rock bottom prices. We'll cross that bridge if we're somehow lucky enough to get there. The addition will unnecessarily add to the barebones at-cost share price for little benefit, IMO, at least at this point w/ just 1 or 2 HF units being hosted at bobsag3's pro colo location in Missouri. Edit: dropt pointed out the need for a 1U Control Unit for the Sierra. This helps show why more brains are better when attacking a problem.

    2. Absolutely NO extra cost of supporting hardware is included in this share price. It's possible there's upgradeability built into the Stock Sierra (Baby Jets are supposed to be able to take a 2nd chip on the mobo). There may be an extra cost associated with having to buy a 2nd rig for 3 or 4 chips. We'll have to share the pain of this extra costs if we want the doubled or quadrupled hashrate. It is, what it is as far as breakdown of share price.

    3. Nope. I/we are already intending to pay extra UPS/Battery backup costs over and above this ultra barebones share price offer, that is at cost, if we underestimate UPS/Battery Backup costs WRT share price. We share the benefits. We also share the pain of additional new hardware for new rigs in this co-operative.

    We'll be insured for delivery, during operations, and during outbound shipments FWIW. Cheers!

    EDIT: Thank you to user dropt who pointed out the requirement for the 1U unit! Share prices *will* be adjusted accordingly, slightly.

    Thanks dropt!


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 03:49:23 AM
    Ha, they don't even list the price for a 1U Control Unit.

    Anyone know this cost?

    This share price will adjust accordingly based on the cost of the 1U Control Unit and if we go for a beefier UPS/Battery Backup solution (by majority vote).

    BBL, taking a break. Please be patient. I'll get to PMs in a bit & have a few waiting. I want to address each PM w/ the time and attn. that they deserve. Please feel free to PM thomas_s. as well. We are co-GBCs on this R3 GB with me covering the PM shift for the US while based in Hawaii, and Thomas covering the AM shift from the East Coast.

    Thanks!


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: Molex1701 on September 22, 2013, 06:12:16 AM

     ??? ??? ???


    This OP is quite confusing.   What is that we are buying and its it for the $113?  When will it start mining?   I don't know why these people that do group buys put in a lot of text that doesn't seem to mater.   I would want how much, for how much g/hash and when it mines.

    Thanks


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 44/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 06:36:54 AM

     ??? ??? ???


    This OP is quite confusing.   What is that we are buying and its it for the $113?  When will it start mining?   I don't know why these people that do group buys put in a lot of text that doesn't seem to mater.   I would want how much, for how much g/hash and when it mines.

    Thanks

    Well, I'm sorry if I made assumptions to anyone new to my co-op or my services.

    If you're unfamiliar with GBs, in general: you get 1/100th of whatever hashrate we end up with.

    TL;DR: Your 1 share of approximately $115 would be worth 12-15GH/s est. to be delivered on Dec. 1.

    Your est. HashRate per share will likely be 15GH/s after overclocking, thanks to heavy duty A/C capacity at bobsag3's place in Missouri. I can't guarantee 15GH/s but that's the incremental goal without risking destroying our rig as we monitor temps and fan speeds closely for Overclocking. Fortunately, HashFasts are *supposed* to be very good at Overclocking w/ excellent cooling; the cooler, the better.

    Your 1 share could be worth up to 48GH/s (prior to Overclocking) depending on which level of HF's MPP is triggered. We are *NOT* responsible for paying for a 2nd rig out of the co-GBCs pockets.

    ** If we need to buy a 2nd rig to get to 3.6TH/s or 4.8TH/s: we ALL pay extra for extra hardware according to our share of the miner *if* it's voted that we assemble the miner somewhere instead of selling the extra 3X or 4X chips (assuming we can mount 2X chips in a Sierra). **


    ===

    Look: this shit's complicated sometimes. I tried to simplify it as much as possible while being a speedy m'fer for y'all (pardon my French). Thanks for pointing out where it gets too complicated. Forest, trees, & all that.

    Just know you ain't getting ripped off with your at-cost shares & I'm giving you access to the same type of pricing and values that guys that have tens of thousands of dollars get. These things aren't easy for anyone to organize at short notice so please be my guest if you think you can do a better job to try to organize co-fundraising $12K in less than 3 days, at a lower cost then what I offer in this thread with my co-GBC.

    I know I don't have cash/BTC on-hand to buy a $10K miner just for fun when I'm already invested in 5 diff. ASIC miner pre-orders, including this one, 401(k)s, college educations for groms, etc., etc..

    **Price breakdown update:

    Est. $200 for a 1U Control Unit
    20-30min. UPS/Battery Backup purchase at-cost or discount
    2.75% management/hosting fees paid every two months, world's lowest fees


    Title: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 06:40:02 AM
    Just in case anyone missed my addition to the 2nd post:

    ** By agreeing to participate in this Group Buy, you agree to NOT use your money that was primarily meant for: food, clothing, rent/mortgage, short term emergency funds, car payments, insurance, 401(k), IRAs, or children's college funds. These are considered HIGH RISK purchases of hardware, with funds tied up for weeks, and are NOT meant for those trying to "get rich quick." ** We are also not your financial adviser or attorney so use your own careful judgments in all BTC transactions. **

    ==


    Also: 2 more shares reserved!

    1 share for a R1 gent back for more, and 1 more share for me.  :)

    42 shares available.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 06:59:45 AM
    Idealy I am working on getting enough funds by monday to maybe be able to buy 2-3 of these my self, in addition to what ever shares I buy here. Prices are just too good.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 07:08:50 AM
    Idealy I am working on getting enough funds by monday to maybe be able to buy 2-3 of these my self, in addition to what ever shares I buy here. Prices are just too good.

    So...shall I put you down for 1 more share? You can always donate blood or some of the underpants navy for cash somewhere right?  ;)  :D

    Thanks FCTaiChi! I owe him 0.1 BTC when he finally goes to GH/s instead of MH/s (for everyone's sake): http://decentralizedhashing.com/hashfast-group-buy-3-day-sale-23-sierra/

    Latest ROI analysis from FCTaiChi w/ new Flash Sale pricing: now #1 value option on his chart. Hmm, we just happen to have over 60% of one already soft reserved and a lot of the funds in place or almost in place. Just sayin.  ;D


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: Molex1701 on September 22, 2013, 07:21:46 AM
    Thanks your explanation helped.   I'm new to group buys.  I've done one for a few Asic usb miners and one for 5 g/hash in a miner.  This would certainly be a more complicated one for me.

    I'll be thinking about joining this one while this sale is on.

    Good day.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 07:22:42 AM
    Latest profit projections tailored to fit GB variables as closely as possible (please PM if you see an error). This projection is with MPP:

    http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/7264304c8e

    I would want to sell it at the 5-6 month mark, with these projections, then split the resale proceeds among the co-op based on everyone's proportional share.

    Hey, check it out. Blue ROI! Sweet, sweet light blue ROI projections. [Legal blather: I'm not your lawyer or financial adviser]

    It's modest but to even see such a thing is a rare sight on TGB nowadays. Besides, we're selling this baby to make extra profit when we're in the black (or light blue, in this case), if voters have their say.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 07:26:36 AM
    Thanks your explanation helped.   I'm new to group buys.  I've done one for a few Asic usb miners and one for 5 g/hash in a miner.  This would certainly be a more complicated one for me.

    I'll be thinking about joining this one while this sale is on.

    Good day.

    You're welcome! Sorry, if my Group Buy is too long and complicated to read and understand.

    These things really are complicated to think through every angle to make sure everyone's protected on both sides throughout any GB transactions here. I truly am here to try to help grease the wheels for both buyers *and* sellers. I'm naive enough to think I could've helped Yifi before Avalon was completely ruined as far as rep (IMHO): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285966.msg3171031#msg3171031


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 08:12:49 AM
    Update: Here's the calculations without MPP and including the 1RU Control Unit user dropt pointed out: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/82754b484b

    $6K Sierra without MPP vs. $10K with MPP.

    Opening up poll for MPP vs. non-MPP. Please let your opinions be heard & also vote publicly or privately so we can resolve this quickly.

    Pros: non-MPP = lower shares costs by about 40%.

    $69 shares vs. $115 shares (with a promise of up to 200-400% more hashrate).



    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 22, 2013, 08:23:14 AM
    I'll go for 20 shares, BTC, fiat, or whatever combination you prefer, your choice.  PM me, please, so we can set up the payment arrangements.....  

    Given the current rate of network hashrate increases, and the probablility of KNC delivering in the next two weeks, along with a second round of Bitfury stuff in the next 5 weeks, my vote(s) (once you sell me some shares.) would be for the MPP...


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 42/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 08:32:19 AM
    Here's my evidence as to why thomas_s. & I may have been the straw that broke the camel's back vis-a-vis this weekend flash sale.

    A major promotion...on a weekend (note, times are all wacky, I sent the orig. PM Saturday, in the late morning Hawaii time sometime).  ???

    ====

    Re: Institutional Discount for Third HashFast Miner?
    « Sent to: HashFast on: September 21, 2013, 07:25:58 PM »
       Reply with quoteQuote ReplyReply Remove this messageDelete
    Quote from: HashFast on September 21, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
    I need you to buy new machines - buying machines from existing customers doesn't really help me...
    What pricing are you looking for?

    John

    My response:

    Hi John,

    Well, we were looking for an Institutional discount on the MPP Sierra. Anyone running numbers at TGB - which has quickly become the standard mining calculator - can easily see that every mfg. option looks like a negative ROI at this point.

    Although I didn't buy Order 616, I've raised over $12K in the last month for 2 HashFast units, and have buyers on hand for about 50-66% of a Sierra if you can work with us. I think I was patient with working with you guys & did not disparage the 3 week resolution to our Customer Service issues or "buyer purgatory" of not knowing if our place in the Q was secure, knowing that you guys were having normal start up issues getting off the ground. (To her credit: Cara did not make any excuses during her phone call apology for this slow resolution) Our previous order was 991 FWIW.

    If you can guarantee me some Institutional Discount for HashFast miners, in general, to our small co-op of 24 members so far, I can continue to guarantee HashFast at-cost (with min. UPS/Battery backup built into price; we'll have co-op members vote on how much to add to share price for power filtering/voltage regulation/battery backup) on the Group Buys forum that will continue to serve as a ready outlet for smaller miners such as myself who can't afford the newer, industrial class miners that are quickly coming to dominate the industry.

    I don't believe that this GB sales outlet will have an effect on your larger industrial miner sales, it will continue to serve as a means for HashFast to reach the smaller miners at much, much lower price points and at fractional risk. Every single person that contacts me to join my at-cost co-operative is joining because they don't want to buy on their own or simply can't afford these new high end miners. The only way smaller miners will join a Group Buy at all is if it's run by someone reputable and vetted by a forum vetting agency *and* if they get a great price.

    I also help serve as a market source for manufacturers looking for hard data about core buyers and investors as well as buyers curious as to what their peers are up to:

    Aug. ASIC Miners Poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272565.0
    Sept. ASIC Miners Poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291775.0

    It's interesting to note that only 4 people voted for HashFast so far in this Sept. vote but I still sold a miner because it was an at-cost previously ordered miner. It's likely that I'll sell this 3rd HashFast (2nd directly purchased) before the month is out as well if you can give us a price break.

    I intend to keep up this monthly miner's poll on the Custom Hardware forum near the start of each month as a type of a timely industry thermometer for those willing to participate in the poll or just follow along.

    Thanks for your time and for the consideration of a discount.

    Regards,


    DZ

    ===

    I didn't get a response back. This may have been his public response back for all I know because I, a registered newsletter recipient who has an email on record from my R1 GB, didn't seem to get this email blast listed in the 1st post, for some reason. I'm only posting this because he never got back to me. Again.

    Of course, I may have hurt his feelings about the 4 HF votes in the poll. He's only human.

    But then again, it's not my job to not hurt his feelings. My job to get you the very best GB share prices on the best available GB forum deals, with the least amount of fuss.


    Title: [OPEN, 22/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 08:38:21 AM
    I'll go for 20 shares, BTC, fiat, or whatever combination you prefer, your choice.  PM me, please, so we can set up the payment arrangements.....  

    Given the current rate of network hashrate increases, and the probablility of KNC delivering in the next two weeks, along with a second round of Bitfury stuff in the next 5 weeks, my vote(s) (once you sell me some shares.) would be for the MPP...

    Excellent! Ok I have you voted as 20 votes for the MPP option with a promise of up to 2-4X our out of box hashrate.

    Only 22 shares remaining out of 100!

    Thank you and welcome aboard!

    I promise you that you won't be disappointed, at least about the performance of this GB Coordinator in matters related to defending your interests and rights.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 22/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 22, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
    I'll go for 20 shares, BTC, fiat, or whatever combination you prefer, your choice.  PM me, please, so we can set up the payment arrangements.....  

    Given the current rate of network hashrate increases, and the probablility of KNC delivering in the next two weeks, along with a second round of Bitfury stuff in the next 5 weeks, my vote(s) (once you sell me some shares.) would be for the MPP...

    Excellent! Ok I have you voted as 20 votes for the MPP option with a promise of up to 2-4X our out of box hashrate.

    Only 22 shares remaining out of 100!

    Thank you and welcome aboard!

    I promise you that you won't be disappointed, at least about the performance of this GB Coordinator in matters related to defending your interests and rights.

    Thanks DZ - glad to be onboard.

    I'm getting the feeling that this will soon be the only way for non-corporate miners to go in the very near future.  I mean think about it - I haven't really figured out how I'm actually going to be able to manage and run 8 Jupiters and some additional Saturns in my house without running power cords all around to different circuits - and leaving the windows open all winter to keep them cool.... 

    Heh...


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 22/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 08:56:06 AM
    I'll go for 20 shares, BTC, fiat, or whatever combination you prefer, your choice.  PM me, please, so we can set up the payment arrangements.....  

    Given the current rate of network hashrate increases, and the probablility of KNC delivering in the next two weeks, along with a second round of Bitfury stuff in the next 5 weeks, my vote(s) (once you sell me some shares.) would be for the MPP...

    Excellent! Ok I have you voted as 20 votes for the MPP option with a promise of up to 2-4X our out of box hashrate.

    Only 22 shares remaining out of 100!

    Thank you and welcome aboard!

    I promise you that you won't be disappointed, at least about the performance of this GB Coordinator in matters related to defending your interests and rights.

    Thanks DZ - glad to be onboard.

    I'm getting the feeling that this will soon be the only way for non-corporate miners to go in the very near future.  I mean think about it - I haven't really figured out how I'm actually going to be able to manage and run 8 Jupiters and some additional Saturns in my house without running power cords all around to different circuits - and leaving the windows open all winter to keep them cool....  

    Heh...

    Ha! I must be speaking to someone else that drank the BTC Kool Aid they were giving out.  :D  ;)

    I also agree about this being the only way to keep up w/ net. difficulty if you're not made of money or Bitcoin.

    Payment details were updated in post 2 or 3. Thanks! Please only send BTC from addresses that you control. Also, try not to send BTC to anyone when you're tired or sleepy. My 2 satoshis.

    ==


    1 more vote for MPP. 21 votes for MPP, 30 more votes required for majority win.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 20/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 09:25:08 AM
    2 more shares reserved! These 2 reservations are from a DZ co-op member from Rounds 1 & 2. I really must be doing something right.  :)

    Only 20 shares left! That's 80% filled in about 12 hours! Thank you!

    And big kudos to new GBC thomas_s. who with his promised 51 shares (2 donated to others) I wouldn't have even fathomed attempting R3 so soon after R2 without him approaching me about a R3 GB. You're going to be pretty stoked when you wake up to read this thread, buddy.  ;D

    It's possible that you and your 51 promised shares, our pre-planning for R3, plus my persistent sales pitch to HF that may have ticked off John S. may have possibly triggered or been the figurative "straw" that broke the camel's back to end up with this Flash Sale; the first in HashFast's history and rare in the ASIC pre-order business, on a weekend, no less.

    The timing is curious, no?


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 16/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 09:39:58 AM
    4 more shares reserved by a R2 DZ Co-op member via PM. Mahalo & Welcome back aboard!

    Only 16 more shares left!


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 16/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: Zeek_W on September 22, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
    Hmm quite interested in this! Will get back to you Zombei


    Title: [OPEN, 15/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 10:05:18 AM
    What the hey. It really is a good deal in a barren wasteland of good deals IMHO.

    I'm down for 1 more share, so I'm up to 3 shares for this R3 GB.

    15 shares available! Please PM thomas_s. if you want to reserve any of the last 15 shares. If you PM me for shares & there's any confusion, the two of us will compare notes to see who reserved first.

    Also, please don't be shy about letting us know about your desire for backup shares for this R3 GB, in case a share or few become available for backup share holders.

    G'night everyone! See you manana.


    Title: [OPEN, 15/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
    Hmm quite interested in this! Will get back to you Zombei

    Hey Zeek!

    Well, I'd put in a soft reservation if I were you. These things are moving quickly & you can always change your mind before or after payment (1.5% restock/refund fee after payment).

    I honestly don't think a 100 share GB with shares of over $100 ea. has ever sold out or almost sold out in less than a day here.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 15/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: mrm0 on September 22, 2013, 10:28:47 AM
    I would like to soft-reserve 10 shares, please.

    Have a good day.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 5/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 10:34:37 AM
    I would like to soft-reserve 10 shares, please.

    Have a good day.

    Hey mrm0. Welcome back for another round! Please keep in mind: Sale ends Monday at 11:59PM PST.

    I don't know if entire payment is due Monday, but the sale ends Monday. That could a constraint we all have to deal with. One option if we're short funds at the end: we buy the $6K miner & contact them later to ask to upgrade to the $10.8K MPP miner. Ta-da! Payment problem possibly solved or delayed for the full $10.8K.

    I have you down for 10 shares. That's funny, I was just going to reserve 1 for you as a courtesy before heading to bed...and here you are!

    5 shares left out of 100!


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 15/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: Tomdraug on September 22, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
    Hi

    I reserve the remaining 5 shares

    Cheers,
    Tom


    Title: [CLOSED, Backup shares only]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 10:42:25 AM
    Hi

    I reserve the remaining shares

    Cheers,
    Tom

    Hi Tom,

    You got it! I can't believe it: We're all filled up in about 12 hours. I believe that's a GB forum speed record for a $10K+GB.

    Thank you and welcome aboard Tom!

    Zero shares remaining. Backup share slots available!

    Please PM thomas_s. and myself for backup shares. There's a decent chance a few shares may spring free as I had pre-reserved a couple of shares from R2 gents I haven't heard back from yet.

    I also may have backup shares available for an Aug. 9 purchased HF Baby Jet, due to ship on Day 1 (64th paid) and arrive on Nov. 1 to Missouri on my R2 thread.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, Backup shares only]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost+Host
    Post by: Tomdraug on September 22, 2013, 10:43:36 AM
    Hi

    I reserve the remaining shares

    Cheers,
    Tom

    Hi Tom,

    You got it! I can't believe it: We're all filled up in about 12 hours. Thank you and welcome aboard Tom!

    Zero shares remaining. Backup share slots available!

    Please PM thomas_s. and myself for backup shares. There's a decent chance a few shares may spring free as I had pre-reserved a couple of shares from R2 gents I haven't heard back from yet.

    Yuhoo :)



    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup shares]R3: HF Sierra Flashsale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 11:03:55 AM
    Poland wins the last 15 share reservations.  

    Congrats gents! ;D

    Ok...I'm really heading off to bed & handing over the baton to thomas_s. who should be up in a few hours.

    Woohoo! We did it Thomas! Feel free to sell some of your 51 shares if you'd like. Talk to you all when I wake up & Thomas & I will sort out share ownership and who has priority for backup shares.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 20/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
    2 more shares reserved! These 2 reservations are from a DZ co-op member from Rounds 1 & 2. I really must be doing something right.  :)

    Only 20 shares left! That's 80% filled in about 12 hours! Thank you!

    And big kudos to new GBC thomas_s. who with his promised 51 shares (2 donated to others) I wouldn't have even fathomed attempting R3 so soon after R2 without him approaching me about a R3 GB. You're going to be pretty stoked when you wake up to read this thread, buddy.  ;D

    It's possible that you and your 51 promised shares, our pre-planning for R3, plus my persistent sales pitch to HF that may have ticked off John S. may have possibly triggered or been the figurative "straw" that broke the camel's back to end up with this Flash Sale; the first in HashFast's history and rare in the ASIC pre-order business, on a weekend, no less.

    The timing is curious, no?
    wow this thread escalated quickly.

    Thanks everyone, I couldn't be more happier I log on before work to check the thread see it closed and say to myself "what happened" and read that all shares were reserved/sold.

    Today will  be a good day.

    If there is a big enough demand for more shares I will  be happy to let others hop on board, I'm not going to make a profit off of selling the shares and they would be at cost just like buying out of this thread.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 22/100 shares avail.]R3: HashFast Flash Sale 72 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 04:47:01 PM
    I'll go for 20 shares, BTC, fiat, or whatever combination you prefer, your choice.  PM me, please, so we can set up the payment arrangements.....  

    Given the current rate of network hashrate increases, and the probablility of KNC delivering in the next two weeks, along with a second round of Bitfury stuff in the next 5 weeks, my vote(s) (once you sell me some shares.) would be for the MPP...

    Excellent! Ok I have you voted as 20 votes for the MPP option with a promise of up to 2-4X our out of box hashrate.

    Only 22 shares remaining out of 100!

    Thank you and welcome aboard!

    I promise you that you won't be disappointed, at least about the performance of this GB Coordinator in matters related to defending your interests and rights.

    Thanks DZ - glad to be onboard.

    I'm getting the feeling that this will soon be the only way for non-corporate miners to go in the very near future.  I mean think about it - I haven't really figured out how I'm actually going to be able to manage and run 8 Jupiters and some additional Saturns in my house without running power cords all around to different circuits - and leaving the windows open all winter to keep them cool....  

    Heh...

    Ha! I must be speaking to someone else that drank the BTC Kool Aid they were giving out.  :D  ;)

    I also agree about this being the only way to keep up w/ net. difficulty if you're not made of money or Bitcoin.

    Payment details were updated in post 2 or 3. Thanks! Please only send BTC from addresses that you control. Also, try not to send BTC to anyone when you're tired or sleepy. My 2 satoshis.

    ==


    1 more vote for MPP. 21 votes for MPP, 30 more votes required for majority win.
    Hey! I paid for those 2 shares at 3 am leave me alone :(

    Also thomas- if we have time... 2nd sierra?


    Title: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 06:37:48 PM
    I'll go for 20 shares, BTC, fiat, or whatever combination you prefer, your choice.  PM me, please, so we can set up the payment arrangements.....  

    Given the current rate of network hashrate increases, and the probablility of KNC delivering in the next two weeks, along with a second round of Bitfury stuff in the next 5 weeks, my vote(s) (once you sell me some shares.) would be for the MPP...

    Excellent! Ok I have you voted as 20 votes for the MPP option with a promise of up to 2-4X our out of box hashrate.

    Only 22 shares remaining out of 100!

    Thank you and welcome aboard!

    I promise you that you won't be disappointed, at least about the performance of this GB Coordinator in matters related to defending your interests and rights.

    Thanks DZ - glad to be onboard.

    I'm getting the feeling that this will soon be the only way for non-corporate miners to go in the very near future.  I mean think about it - I haven't really figured out how I'm actually going to be able to manage and run 8 Jupiters and some additional Saturns in my house without running power cords all around to different circuits - and leaving the windows open all winter to keep them cool....  

    Heh...

    Ha! I must be speaking to someone else that drank the BTC Kool Aid they were giving out.  :D  ;)

    I also agree about this being the only way to keep up w/ net. difficulty if you're not made of money or Bitcoin.

    Payment details were updated in post 2 or 3. Thanks! Please only send BTC from addresses that you control. Also, try not to send BTC to anyone when you're tired or sleepy. My 2 satoshis.

    ==


    1 more vote for MPP. 21 votes for MPP, 30 more votes required for majority win.
    Hey! I paid for those 2 shares at 3 am leave me alone :(

    Also thomas- if we have time... 2nd sierra?

    He had to go to work so I'm stepping up to help; another nice thing of having two GBCs co-ordinate the same thread (as long as they're on the same page (or at least the same chapter in the same book  ;) )).

    Hmm, darnit Bob. I was hoping to enjoy my Sunday & watch men smash into each other at high speed. But since my team doesn't play till Monday night anyway...

    Alright, since R3's $12K GB sold out in 12 hours & you have that massive host facility in Missouri that need ASIC space heaters for the winter:

    Looks like R4 is OPEN!

    R4 *will* initially be a $6,000 1.2TH/s+ Sierra Batch2 expected to be delivered on Dec.1.
    There's no MPP, I repeat there's no MPP with this R4.

    Since bobsag3's the troublemaker that started R4 on my nice peaceful Sunday, he and I have the first 2 share reservations, 1 ea. to start. Guess I'm off to ebay to see if I can round up some folks via the ebay/PayPal route since we're short on time.

    ================

    98 at-cost shares available at $69 each!

    - Est. Hashrate: 12-15GH/s per share. No MPP.
    - 2.75% Host/Management fee at a Professional Colocation Facility in Missouri (likely backup sites in NY or Ohio). Lowest Fees around.

    If there's an outcry among R4 shareholders for HashFast MPP at an additional cost ($115 per share), still at-cost,


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
    I plead the 5th. Ill send you the payment for my share when I get home. Also just my personal vote to get it with MPP.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
    I plead the 5th. Ill send you the payment for my share when I get home. Also just my personal vote to get it with MPP.

    Bob, we're short on time. I'm locking it in at $69 a share for R4 until further notice. I'm already juggling 3 current GBs at the moment, my man.

    We'll look at upgrading the share price *after* we've secured a $6K order for R4.  You or thomas_s. can float the ebay shares for R4 if necessary since I'm already still floating 7 or more shares in R2.  ;D

    ===

    And since you're kolohe, or a rascal, here's the ebay listing I just put up for 10 shares (hope this link works, can someone confirm?):

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131000224503


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 07:38:53 PM
    Round 3 NEWS:

    Need to confirm in a bit but 20 shares PAID by -Redacted-! Thank you and officially: Welcome Aboard!

    Plus, 2 shares paid by bobsag3, plus I already have funds on hand for my 3 shares for R3 at mcxNOW.

    25 shares paid for in R3 already and thomas_s. to pay for 51, so that's 76 shares off the bat paid or to be paid by GBCs for Round 3.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 22, 2013, 07:45:40 PM
    Figured it was just better to get them paid and out of the way. :)  I wouldn't mind picking up a few backup shares for the first two GB rounds if any shake loose.  Feel free to PM me if anything comes up....


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 08:52:45 PM
    Lol...this thread keeps escalating quickly lol

    I get home and were getting a second sierra? I'm down I think.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 08:56:46 PM
    I plead the 5th. Ill send you the payment for my share when I get home. Also just my personal vote to get it with MPP.

    Bob, we're short on time. I'm locking it in at $69 a share for R4 until further notice. I'm already juggling 3 current GBs at the moment, my man.

    We'll look at upgrading the share price *after* we've secured a $6K order for R4.  You or thomas_s. can float the ebay shares for R4 if necessary since I'm already still floating 7 or more shares in R2.  ;D

    ===

    And since you're kolohe, or a rascal, here's the ebay listing I just put up for 10 shares (hope this link works, can someone confirm?):

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131000224503
    Uhmm the link works but I didn't know the sierra's came with a kitty cat.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 09:11:53 PM
    Nah, mate, that's my g'luck charm!

    That's Butter's the cat, an indoor/outdoor cat that's just the coolest lil cat. He's the family baby that just curls up in a ball & purrs if you cuddle him.

    He's a Kauai native that brings cockroaches and small reptiles (newts, geckos, salamanders) into the house to torture/play with.

    ===

    I'm going to take a break & straighten out the ownership of all the GBs. Hope to straighten out spreadsheets in all 4 GBs & eat some lunch, so I may be offline a few hours. Please take the wheel, Thomas.

    A gentleman has contacted me to buy 2 of my R1 HF GB shares so that I can apply the BTC to this R4 GB. If so, I'll be in for 3 or 4 more shares.

    Thomas, any shares you want to claim on this R4? No MPP, but it looks like it doesn't need it, from what we can tell w/ best projections.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 98/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 09:15:12 PM
    Nah, mate, that's my g'luck charm!

    That's Butter's the cat, an indoor/outdoor cat that's just the coolest lil cat. He's the family baby that just curls up in a ball & purrs if you cuddle him.

    He's a Kauai native that brings cockroaches and small reptiles (newts, geckos, salamanders) into the house to torture/play with.

    ===

    I'm going to take a break & straighten out the ownership of all the GBs. Hope to straighten out spreadsheets in all 4 GBs & eat some lunch, so I may be offline a few hours.

    A gentleman has contacted me to buy 2 of my R1 GB shares so that I can apply the BTC to this R4 GB. If so, I'll be in for 3 or 4 more shares.

    Thomas, any shares you want to claim on this R4? No MPP, but it looks like it doesn't need it, from what we can tell w/ best projections.
    I'll take 1 or 2, maybe more gotta factor out how much BTC I'll have left over.


    Title: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 09:16:19 PM
    Ok, just put me down for 3 more. You want to update the thread using the same color format?

    Thanks!

    94 shares avail. Please send anon. reserve PMs to thomas_s. , por favor.

    ==

    Hmm, the groms are finally sick of their ipads & TV, & want to finally go to the beach. Imagine that.

    I may be gone longer than a coupla hours. Sorry, that spreadsheet update will have to wait but no worries, y'all have PM exchanges w/me for your payments/ownerships, etc..


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 22, 2013, 09:23:20 PM
    Ok, just put me down for 3 more. You want to update the thread using the same color format?

    Thanks!

    94 shares avail. Please send anon. reserve PMs to thomas_s. , por favor.

    ==

    Hmm, the groms are finally sick of their ipads & TV, & want to finally go to the beach. Imagine that.

    I may be gone longer than a coupla hours. Sorry, that spreadsheet update will have to wait but no worries, y'all have PM exchanges w/me for your payments/ownerships, etc..

    To speed things up you can send PM's to me I am a GBC of this GB, it'll free up DZ's time so he can tend to other things.

    Send Reserve requests / questions to me.
    For reserve requests I just need to know how many you would like to reserve and if you want to be anon or posted publicly.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 22, 2013, 09:25:52 PM
    Ok, just put me down for 3 more. You want to update the thread using the same color format?

    Thanks!

    94 shares avail. Please send anon. reserve PMs to thomas_s. , por favor.

    ==

    Hmm, the groms are finally sick of their ipads & TV, & want to finally go to the beach. Imagine that.

    I may be gone longer than a coupla hours. Sorry, that spreadsheet update will have to wait but no worries, y'all have PM exchanges w/me for your payments/ownerships, etc..

    To speed things up you can send PM's to me I am a GBC of this GB, it'll free up DZ's time so he can tend to other things.

    Send Reserve requests / questions to me.
    For reserve requests I just need to know how many you would like to reserve and if you want to be anon or posted publicly.

    Yup, that's correct! Nice to be able to tag team and have access to more funds/BTC for these flash projects. BBL gents!

    These shares are only $69 each, at cost for something that projects as actually blue on TGB...just sayin'...


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 22, 2013, 09:29:54 PM
    DZ HF R1 GB, 2 shares, red@ct.  

    Picking up two shares of the R1 GB from DZ @ $155.

    http://blockchain.info/tx/cd9484dbcfc5c3c0aa920df81f5b7e96a8fd63a23af4105124ed616317e375cf


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 22, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
    Im glad DZ Is better at speadsheets than I am.
    This is why he does what he does, and I run the power cables. And make sure my cats dont light any of the machines on fire. Things like that.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 12:20:21 AM
    You have room down there to host 6 or so Jupiters in a week or so?  If so, how much?


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 23, 2013, 12:34:09 AM
    You have room down there to host 6 or so Jupiters in a week or so?  If so, how much?
    I have 2400sqft, with 95kw peak demand capacity.
    Answer your question?
    shoot me a PM, and Ill send you my number so we can talk.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: tripppn on September 23, 2013, 02:06:39 AM
    You have room down there to host 6 or so Jupiters in a week or so?  If so, how much?
    I have 2400sqft, with 95kw peak demand capacity.
    Answer your question?
    shoot me a PM, and Ill send you my number so we can talk.
    Have you considered putting in a backup generator?  That way we dont have to worry about ups backup but I dont know if it would be worth the cost.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 04:35:50 AM
    Re: Bob's 120A generator.

    My understanding from talking w/ Bob is that it's meant for longer outages, hence the need for our own local battery backup & voltage regulation. That's why there's a minimal price built into the share price for Battery/Backup performance. From the homework I asked Thomas to do, it came out to about $1K+ for us to have 1 to 1.5 hours of backup power which would've added almost 10% to the share price for a $11K GB. I already knew that but I wanted him to learn on his own.  ;)

    That's partly why he can offer true professional colocation services at the world's lowest costs. If you were running an industrial rig by yourself, do you only want 2-4 min. backup from a $100-150 UPS? By all of us ganging together for UPS/Battery costs, we all get much better value by getting more battery power per dollar spent, thanks to our greater purchasing power & access to better equipment/values.

    ==

    Back from the beach. Dinner w/ the fam in a bit & then I'll be working thru PMs in a bit. Please be patient w/ me & Thomas. I heard back from John S.; he says he's *not* easy to piss off and wasn't sure what I was talking about. Nice to hear that at least one of the heads of marketing of these new mfgs. has thicker skin then what we've seen so far w/ unnamed Gen1 ASIC mfgs.

    I was thinking that w/ such short notice for payment on this flash sale, if necessary, we'll try to secure 2 purchases but at the very least we'll secure 1 $6K Sierra (depending on what funds we have avail. by 9PM HST Monday night). If R4 stalls, we'll put everything we have into getting R3's Sierra secured at $6K but pref. at $10K.

    My understanding from PMs I've received from those that soft reserved shares is that they want to take advantage of the Flash Sale but can't pay until Tues/Wed.

    Some buyers may not be able to get payments in by Monday night. I'll talk to John S. on our behalf & see what I can work out as far as slightly late payments for secured pre-orders.

    Looks like we have more reservations when I update numbers. Be back in a little bit.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: amer on September 23, 2013, 04:50:55 AM
    Hi,
    I'm considering purchasing some shares in the GB - I see that the price is $69/share, but I have a few questions:

    * the payment address is a BTC address. I'm trying to calculate out the total pricing, but it would help to know how many BTC you consider $69 to be? Or do you accept USD as a payment method?

    * If HashFast is unable to deliver at all, does the 1.5% restocking fee for refunds apply?

    * I see that there are 26 people involved in the management of this - is this a formal company with another purpose as well? This question is really more geared towards what is the exposure if a few people decide they want to retire from this - who's left?

    * Can we visit the equipment if we're in the area?

    * What happens if the machine is damaged and considered outside warranty?

    * I see the projection is resale in 7 months. If BTC/USD exchange rates increase so that it is still profitable to hang onto the equipment, is the existing hosting arrangement prepared for a "long haul"?

    * Will there be any written agreement documenting the co-op?

    Thanks for answering my questions - just trying to accept any risk here! Sorry in advance if any are dumb questions.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 23, 2013, 04:56:39 AM
    Hi,
    I'm considering purchasing some shares in the GB - I see that the price is $69/share, but I have a few questions:

    * the payment address is a BTC address. I'm trying to calculate out the total pricing, but it would help to know how many BTC you consider $69 to be? Or do you accept USD as a payment method?

    * If HashFast is unable to deliver at all, does the 1.5% restocking fee for refunds apply?

    * I see that there are 26 people involved in the management of this - is this a formal company with another purpose as well? This question is really more geared towards what is the exposure if a few people decide they want to retire from this - who's left?

    * Can we visit the equipment if we're in the area?

    * What happens if the machine is damaged and considered outside warranty?

    * I see the projection is resale in 7 months. If BTC/USD exchange rates increase so that it is still profitable to hang onto the equipment, is the existing hosting arrangement prepared for a "long haul"?

    * Will there be any written agreement documenting the co-op?

    Thanks for answering my questions - just trying to accept any risk here! Sorry in advance if any are dumb questions.
    1) we will be using bitstamp on this GB to calculate conversion as that is what hashfast uses.
    2) we believe hashfast will be able to deliver however this question would need to be answered by DZ as he is dealing with the monetary side, (I thought he posted it tho)
    3) Each GB that is run here by DZ is like a democracy, everything is voted on and the decision is made based on majority ruling.
    4) This would be a question for the host (right now I think the only person that has requested the hosting / received any votes is bobsag3)
    5) From what I've read the warranty is 10 days from defects, if it can be fixed (we would have to vote on weather fixing it would be more cost effective, we would be able to sell it to someone who'd want to fix it most likely)
    6) See #3.
    7) Everything documenting this GB is in this topic, I'm sure if there is a request we can make all the information into a pdf.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: corather on September 23, 2013, 05:11:00 AM
    Reserved for 1 share. PM me with details. I'd prefer to pay in BTC. Looks like I'll have to paypal you the money. Can't get the BTC in time.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: tripppn on September 23, 2013, 05:23:02 AM
    DZ,

    Regarding the battery backup, it doesn't seem worth it to me to get 1.5 +/- hrs for 1k at all.  I don't know how ofter then power goes out where Bobs location is but I would say I have a power outage once every 2 years or so.  

    So here's the logic I'm using.  Lets say the power goes out 3 times for 1.5 hrs or more during the life of this rig.  That's 4.5 hrs of hashing for 1k so unless btc prices go crazy and the network slows down considerably it's not worth it.

    I say get the one that will keep it up for 20-30 mins to cover quick outages and brown outs. If the power goes out longer then that we take a hit.  Seems like a waist to throw a grand at a backup that's only going to keep it going for an extra hour.  
    Of course I don't know how reliable your power grid is there.  If we can expect that it will go out many many times then hell ya it's worth it.

    Thoughts?


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 23, 2013, 05:26:37 AM
    DZ,

    Regarding the battery backup, it doesn't seem worth it to me to get 1.5 +/- hrs for 1k at all.  I don't know how ofter then power goes out where Bobs location is but I would say I have a power outage once every 2 years or so.  

    So here's the logic I'm using.  Lets say the power goes out 3 times for 1.5 hrs or more during the life of this rig.  That's 4.5 hrs of hashing for 1k so unless btc prices go crazy and the network slows down considerably it's not worth it.

    I say get the one that will keep it up for 20-30 mins to cover quick outages and brown outs. If the power goes out longer then that we take a hit.  Seems like a waist to throw a grand at a backup that's only going to keep it going for an extra hour.  
    Of course I don't know how reliable your power grid is there.  If we can expect that it will go out many many times then hell ya it's worth it.

    Thoughts?
    This is exactly the reason we didn't decide to put a 1k unit into the price, but a smaller one to cover a small outage / brown out, but if the group wants to pay for a 1k unit, then that is the majority decision we will.

    If we do decide to use bobsag3 this is the link to his hosting service topic that goes into some more details of what his service offers
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012.0



    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 23, 2013, 06:06:38 AM
    DZ,

    Regarding the battery backup, it doesn't seem worth it to me to get 1.5 +/- hrs for 1k at all.  I don't know how ofter then power goes out where Bobs location is but I would say I have a power outage once every 2 years or so.  

    So here's the logic I'm using.  Lets say the power goes out 3 times for 1.5 hrs or more during the life of this rig.  That's 4.5 hrs of hashing for 1k so unless btc prices go crazy and the network slows down considerably it's not worth it.

    I say get the one that will keep it up for 20-30 mins to cover quick outages and brown outs. If the power goes out longer then that we take a hit.  Seems like a waist to throw a grand at a backup that's only going to keep it going for an extra hour.  
    Of course I don't know how reliable your power grid is there.  If we can expect that it will go out many many times then hell ya it's worth it.

    Thoughts?
    This is exactly the reason we didn't decide to put a 1k unit into the price, but a smaller one to cover a small outage / brown out, but if the group wants to pay for a 1k unit, then that is the majority decision we will.

    If we do decide to use bobsag3 this is the link to his hosting service topic that goes into some more details of what his service offers
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012.0


    If a power outage is going to be a serious issue at my location, I have a temp location with almost as much power and cooling that I can use for 1-4 days max. Much cheaper than a generator.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 94/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 06:28:40 AM

    Not sure if you heard the news but your good deal was rewarded almost 50% by my co-GBC thomas_s. who was touched by what you did.

    He bought you a R3 share worth $115 (12-15GH/s up to 48-60GH/s if 4x MPP kicks in) for you being so nice & did the same for the R1 gent I sent your donation to. He also said he's never seen such behavior in a GB before, so: thank you!  :)

    Take care!
    DZ


    Wow! please say thank you very much to thomas_s, am very honored and humbled by his actions. In return, I will donate the 50% hashrate to Mr. DZ's chosen charity, while keeping the other 50%. The other 50% will be donated to my chosen XXXXX charity (Tzu Chi and White Cross).

    I always keep this quote in my life by E. Burke: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

    I know I cant change the world. But at least if my time is up, I did something right.  :)

    Thank you again too Mr. DZ, you opened the goodness in this bitcoin community.

    Regards,

    XXXXXXX

    ===

    I just stopped by to say I was back on the case but someone keeps cutting onions next to me. :'(

    The exchange above was prompted by actions taken in R2, and R3 & R4 of this co-operative's community fundraising.

    For those that don't have the background info for what XXXXXX was talking about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274055.msg3206423#msg3206423

    Thank you gentlemen. I'm donating half a share of R1 GB to this same person you already donated to. Since our anon. hero passed on half of *his* donation that's essentially a full share spread in 2 HF GBs, one a Baby Jet, the other a Sierra.

    It looks like about $310 $400 worth of BTC has been donated in the R3/R4 thread and R2 thread in the form of BTC and outright ownership of HashfFast GB shares!

    Amazing! I'm thankful and happy to be a conduit for this goodwill. This is *not* a solicitation. Please don't PM us for donations. It was simply 4 acts of random kindness. Not to toot our horn: This is over and above what any other co-operative has done on these forums for complete strangers, as best as I can tell.

    BTW, for those wondering how the heck this co-operative works out: yes, we vote on *all* major decisions.

    I've set up a separate thread just for the R1 gents so that I make sure their needs aren't being overlooked (our 3rd R1 vote: To Overclock or not Overclock our Baby Jet hosted in NY? If so, how much should we overclock?).

    ========

    I'm an amateur historian fascinated by the changes going on around us and happy to actually participate at what history will still likely see as the groundfloor of Cryptocurrency's eventual integration and takeover of many aspects of our society and economy.

    I'm also a humanist in every sense of the word feeling a sense of kinship with, oh just about 99%+ of humanity. I try to run my co-operative in the same fashion, trying to include everyone and value their unique opinions, insights, and strengths. I listed all those occupations above not to show who's running the co-op- Answer: as admins: me and jungle_dave, as a co-op: ALL of us. This shows the diversity of opinion and thought in this co-op, and our strengths as a group.

    BTW for those w/ an IT background: feel free to volunteer for a 3rd co-admin for anyone w/ a share in a miner; we're a mesh network, the more redundancy, the better IMO



    ===

    OK, I'm going back to the IT caves doing GB work behind the scenes that helps to keep ownership of shares/accounting/wallets for payouts/payment confirmations are 100% correct. [UPDATE: I'm CC'ing thomas_s so that both of our records are correct about anon. shares and wallet addresses for R3/R4.]

    It takes time to make sure we're absolutely correct about the GB ownership and payments/payouts. If you PMed me, I'll update the PMed reservations sent to me shortly. I'm still catching up on PMs so I should be contacting you shortly if you messaged me. Again: please, *no* donations are being solicited *or* expected.

    Thank you. It's an honor to serve you all and to be a service to you all.



    Title: [OPEN, 93/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 06:40:11 AM
    Back to the business at hand: corather reserved a share and others need to be added up from PMs. For now:

    93 shares available.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 93/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 06:50:56 AM
    Updated Post 1 & 2 editing to make R4 description and payment section more clear with better editing.

    Updated Payment info in Post 2. TL;DR: Payments aren't due until 75 reservations are filled for Round 4, if we're fortunate to get that far.

    Ok, back to catching up on Personal Messages.

    15 Hours left for payment on both R3 *and* R4.  [That or ordering 1 or 2 units, partial payment, and stalling a day or so, ehehe]


    Title: [OPEN, 93/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 07:49:19 AM

    2) we believe hashfast will be able to deliver however this question would need to be answered by DZ as he is dealing with the monetary side, (I thought he posted it tho)


    In most Group Buys there's some sort of restock fee. The seller expects to be compensated for all the behind the work scenes even if the darn thing failed 5 months later. It's tons of work behind the scenes to keep these things humming and to even succeed in a single GB on this forum in the first place. If it was easy, we'd have many more members trying to launch GBs.

    With that in mind, one of the services I offer is coaching & mentoring to new GBCs like thomas_s

    I've waived my usual 0.1% Pre-paid Pre-Planning fee for in-depth planning for those ambitious enough to attempt their first GB here to get R3/R4 off the ground & to help out thomas_s

    Back to refunds: Mass Refunds are usually handled on a case by case basis WRT to the GB, from I've noticed. Since I'm an advocate for both Buyers *and* Sellers, and since I believe in karma, so rest assured:

    In this at-cost co-operative, there's no 1.5% restock fee if the majority of the group (in each respective Round) vote for a mfg. refund.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 93/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 08:21:59 AM
    Stall tactics on your behalf.  ;D PM to John S. at HashFast:

    "HI John,

    I was hoping to call you tomorrow morning about 7:15AM HST. I think that's about 10:15AM PST.

    I def. have 1 Sierra sold - we pre-sold 100 shares for the MPP Sierra in less than 12 hours. I have part of a Round 4 HashFast non-MPP Sierra GB reserved as well, so we'll see how that goes and we hope to buy a 2nd one before the deadline.

    The reason I want to call is that: even though the sale ends tmrw night at midnight, about a quarter to a third of the funds are in transit via Coinbase for a major shareowner in Round 3. Tomorrow night before your deadline: I was hoping that our at-cost co-operative could pay 50% of the MPP Sierra, and 50% of a non-MPP Sierra to secure availability for both of them to the GB forum.

    I'm about 100% positive we can pay the balance for both of them by the end of the business week as I already have over 10% interest for a non-MPP Sierra even after that 12 hour sellout of the Sierra yesterday (which is really fast for the GB forum). This Flash Sale almost stands out like a sore thumb as far as ROI compared to current options.

    Thanks,
    XXXXXXXX


    Title: [OPEN, 91/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 08:48:31 AM
    2 more shares reserved!

    Also a couple of ebay inquires. Hopefully, some more shares are sold on ebay again for HashFast shares (sold 4 HF shares on ebay last month).

    91 shares available on this non-MPP $6K 1200GH/s+ (likely 1500GH/s) Sierra miner that needs to have an order in within 13.25 hours.


    Title: [OPEN, 90/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 08:51:11 AM
    Registering tripppn's reservation for 1 share.

    90 shares left!


    Title: [OPEN, 90/100 shares avail.]R4: HashFast Flash Sale 48 Hours only, At-Cost +Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
    Reddit mention of thomas_s and the anonymous hero's awesomeness:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1my62l/true_story_i_tried_to_raise_19k_in_3_days_for_2/

    Thomas, you're Reddit Bitcoin famous now, FWIW.  Because no good deed should go unpunished. :D

    Heading to bed. Hopefully R4 takes off, if not: at least we have 100% have a Sierra to be ordered & paid tomorrow night for R3. I will pull funds from my R2 buyout of Order 616 & my mcxNOW account to make sure of it, if we're a little short. Also, we'll see what John S. at HF says about 50% secured Flash Sale Sierras. Cross your fingers.

    As for the R2 funds I use for R3/R4, if necessary: I can always replenish what I use for R2 intended shares via Coinbase for my own use.

    Spreadsheet updates to follow tomorrow. I'm sure y'all would rather I work my okole off doing work then making ASCII code spreadsheets look purty (as long as the info's all up to date & correct in my other records).


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 90 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
    Ok, I'm really heading to bed. (Ha, I keep saying that on my threads) but I had to share this from the donation recipient from R1:

    Re: (No subject)
    « Sent to: DyslexicZombei on: September 21, 2013, 06:07:51 PM »
    « You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
       Reply with quoteQuote ReplyReply Remove this messageDelete
    I'm still around, and that is my deposit address. Been fighting off a bad kidney infection through the last half of august and the first half of september. Feeling much better now, but as I live in XXXX, kinda feel like I missed 1/3 of the summer, as fall is definitely here.

    But enough with the unpleasant nature of physical existence, and onto the brighter note of bitcoin in general and the inherent goodness of people in specific! I was very touched by the thought that a fellow bitcoin convert a half a world away, who I've never met nor will meet, would be kind enough to think of me. This is why I love bitcoin and the principles and people behind it! It's been a rough few weeks, and finding this random spark of human kindness in my inbox made my whole month.

    Mahalo to you, and Mahalo nui loa to the anonymous donor!
    - from the anon. donor from my R1 GB.

    ==

    FWIW, the kidney infection is NOT the disability but more of a complication of the major underlying disability.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 90 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: thomas_s on September 23, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
    2 Shares reserved for one of my previous customers


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 90 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
    So, if you can get within 10 shares of closing this out on time, I'll take those last 10...


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 90 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 23, 2013, 03:35:01 PM
    By my count thats 88 shares left


    Title: [OPEN,78 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
    I can't get to PMs this morning. I'll have to address them this afternoon. My apologies.


    However...big news! I just talked to John at HF.

    I've secured *TWO* Sierras at Flash Sale with payment due this Friday. We need to pay 50% (his exact words: "send whatever you have") for both units (1 MPP, 1 Non-MPP) with payment due at the end of the business week.

    Great news! Thx to your GBC's diligent efforts: We don't have as much pressure to reserve all 90 shares today for Sierra #2!

    ==

    With that said, I'll hold -Redacted- to what he said about 10 shares to move things along. To compensate, buying won't open for R4 until we hit 85 shares reserved. BTW, R3's payments are still in movement from co-op members. R3 order's secure; we just don't have all the funds quite yet (but most of 'em).

    So: 78 shares available! And we have till Friday to pay for the balance of both R3 & R4!


    ====

    All 4 spreadsheets for all 4 of my active GBs will be updated tonight.

    Also: tidbit you won't anywhere else - John S. needs to confirm w/ eng. team but even a Pi w/ enough powered USB ports should be enough to control a rack of Sierras.

    He's marketing; not 100% sure, but he says any cheap 1RU server (or even Pi) should be able run a rack of Sierras as long as one has enough USB ports with enough oomph (that's a technical term).


    Title: Re: [OPEN,78 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 05:47:28 PM

    With that said, I'll hold -Redacted- to what he said about 10 shares to move things along. To compensate, buying won't open for R4 until we hit 85 shares reserved. BTW, R3's payments are still in movement from co-op members. R3 order's secure; we just don't have all the funds quite yet (but most of 'em).


    Oh - like that's fair - you're going to give it an entire extra week on the GB just to get me to cough up for another ten shares....  :)

    Offer still stands, with THIS COMING FRIDAY as the deadline to get the other 90 shares in place....   ;)


    Title: Re: [OPEN,78 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 06:13:03 PM

    With that said, I'll hold -Redacted- to what he said about 10 shares to move things along. To compensate, buying won't open for R4 until we hit 85 shares reserved. BTW, R3's payments are still in movement from co-op members. R3 order's secure; we just don't have all the funds quite yet (but most of 'em).


    Oh - like that's fair - you're going to give it an entire extra week on the GB just to get me to cough up for another ten shares....  :)

    Offer still stands, with THIS COMING FRIDAY as the deadline to get the other 90 shares in place....   ;)

    Thanks! Hey, at least I moved it up to 85 shares reserved before sales start.  ;)  ;D

    If we get to 85 shares, I'm guessing the last 15 will vanish soon after, the way these things go. ...And since I took the extra step of calling John this Monday Morning to stall on full payments for 2 Sierras, this appears to be the only place *anywhere* you can lock in Flash Sale pricing that ends tonight, all the way through this Friday.

    ...still digging ditches and carrying water, for y'all. I'll add more details of my 12.5 minute call with the head of HashFast marketing this morning, including stuff that's not available in any other thread or news site.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 78 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: thomas_s on September 23, 2013, 07:18:01 PM
    I can reply to PM's today =)

    Instead of sending DZ a ton of PM's for reservations send the reservations to me I'll send him 1 PM with all the reservations.


    Title: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 23, 2013, 09:51:04 PM
    Quick update: 4 more shares reserved! This is for 1 share & 3 shares to two anonymous gentlemen.

    Please send PM reservations to thomas_s for the next few hours, and when he needs to go, he'll make a public statement here letting you that his "shift" here is over. Thanks! No time to get to PMs right now, but it's the first thing on my list when I get home tonight.

    74 shares available at $69/ea. worth 12-15GH/s est. Dec. 1 delivery.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 23, 2013, 09:58:02 PM
    For my hosting facility update:

    Got the building, power internet all setup today.
    Tomorrow I get all the cable, surge protectors, racks and a half pallet of PSUs.
    http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units/ax-series-power-supply-units/ax1200i-digital-atx-power-supply-1200-watt-80-plus-platinum-certified-fully-modular-psu.html
    <3


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: thomas_s on September 23, 2013, 11:09:09 PM
    For my hosting facility update:

    Got the building, power internet all setup today.
    Tomorrow I get all the cable, surge protectors, racks and a half pallet of PSUs.
    http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units/ax-series-power-supply-units/ax1200i-digital-atx-power-supply-1200-watt-80-plus-platinum-certified-fully-modular-psu.html
    <3
    The nerd in me wishes that I was there to see all that nerdcandy.


    A few more shares were just reserved for R4


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 23, 2013, 11:53:55 PM
    Pictures, or it isn't true :)


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 12:41:40 AM
    Pictures, or it isn't true :)
    As soon as I start getting it in, Ill take as many pictures as I can w/o compromising security.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 03:16:09 AM
    Back on the case: focus is getting a down payment on 2 Sierras tonight at Flash Sale Pricing. Target: 50% down payments on Round 3 and Round 4 Sierras

    $5400 for Sierra w/ MPP
    $3000 for Sierra, naked as the day it's gonna be born

    In less than 4 hours I'll be sending the biggest possible down payments I can to secure both Sierras. I promised John we'd have the rest by Friday. Right gents & ladies?

    John's exact words were "send what you can", so I'll take him at his word.  ;D

    Looks like there's share movement. Amazing thing about having 3 GBs that show up as light blue on TGB is that I can offer people that come to me different at-cost pricing options and delivery times that fit what they're trying to do.

    ==

    Alright, I'll be back to update numbers. Lots of pressure taken off that we don't have to have 100% payment on both. But try to get whatever you can in before 8:30PM HST (approx. 2 Hrs, 20 minutes from now). Please label your payment & associated PM with the Round number you're paying for to keep the record straight for both of us.

    Getting to PMs in a second. Please be patient w/ me. You can also send you share reservations & payment details to thomas_s so we can both bear the load since we're co-GBCs. Please don't worry about your share ownership or payment confirmations as long as you PMed me and/or thomas_s.  Just a wee bit busy at the moment, for a couple of GBCs during a flash sale while also having a family (at least for me) & a wife that gets pissed if I spend too much time here w/ y'all.  :D

    "A little more redundancy doesn't hurt" is a motto every server monkey like myself goes by. I will say that we have a lady (I believe) joining us thanks to our ebay listing! So the credit for that goes to kolohe bobsag3 & he of the: "hey, let's do a 2nd Sierra during the 3 day sale on a Sunday" since he just had to suggest it, sit back, & watch the fireworks. Had me scrambling to call HF this morning & everything eheh.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 03:22:03 AM
    :)
    Hey ive dropped 20k on my hosting facility for these things... just trying to get my money back :P


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 03:23:36 AM
    :)
    Hey ive dropped 20k on my hosting facility for these things... just trying to get my money back :P

    And that's why you're my boy, Blue! Oops, wrong movie (ref: Old School).

    In all honesty, what you did is beyond the reach (or sanity?) of most BTC miners.  :P

    ====


    As for the R3/R4 wallet: Seeing 47BTC total in there. Blockchain shows the current value of that to be a little south of $4.8K total.

    ====

    Getting to who paid what & how much in a minute. I may have to answer R1 & R2 related PMs later tonight or tomorrow.

    Floating a couple of shares via PayPal as well so I'll be buying BTC on behalf of 2 people and their 1 share each; trying not to make a habit of it but it's not my fault that PP is so anti-BTC & makes it so difficult for you to convert it to a much better electronic currency.

    I'll add some funds from my mcxNOW account, separate from the R2 funds, so you may see a smaller payment in the blockchain after the main deposit.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 03:36:19 AM
    :)
    Hey ive dropped 20k on my hosting facility for these things... just trying to get my money back :P

    And that's why you're my boy, Blue! Oops, wrong movie (ref: Old School).

    In all honesty, what you did is beyond the reach (or sanity?) of most BTC miners.  :P

    ====


    As for the R3/R4 wallet: Seeing 47BTC total in there. Blockchain shows the current value of that to be a little south of $4.8K total.

    ====

    Getting to who paid what & how much in a minute. I may have to answer R1 & R2 related PMs later tonight or tomorrow.

    Floating a couple of shares via PayPal as well so I'll be buying BTC on behalf of 2 people and their 1 share each; trying not to make a habit of it but it's not my fault that PP is so anti-BTC & makes it so difficult for you to convert it to a much better electronic currency.

    I'll add some funds from my mcxNOW account, separate from the R2 funds, so you may see a smaller payment in the blockchain after the main deposit.

    I still owe you for a share right?


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 04:33:40 AM
    Yup, also feel free to float some shares Bob since R4 was your idear. LOL

    Did I mention I'm buying $1 to 1.3K worth of PP for BTC? It's on behalf of *three* different anon. users (including 1 that saw our ebay link).


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 06:06:28 AM
    Payment due in less than an hour. Target is 69.331BTC.

    I have an invoice open for 2 miners.

    This is for a combined order to save time.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 06:17:57 AM
    https://hashfast.com/shop/baby-jet-upgrade-kit/


    Title: [OPEN, 73 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 06:26:04 AM
    Yup, the gents in my Round 1 and Round 2 Group Buys must be doing mental cartwheels right now.

    100% more hashrate at only 25% more cost? For a 40 share miner, it comes out to about $38-40 a share after shipping.

    Update: Sorry, the $1K is meant for the R2 buyout when I doublechecked records. I'm only buying 1 PP share by BTC this evening for an anon. co-op member (unless they want to claim it publicly  ;) ).

    I expect to buy 2 more PP shares tomorrow.

    BTW, 1 share of thomas_s R3 shares sold to our new member from ebay! I'm sorry to call attention to you, but I believe that you're our first woman co-op member (unless someone else wants to please prove me wrong). If true: Awesome!

    Mahalo and welcome aboard!

    This member is buying 2 shares: 1 in R3, 1 in R4.

    Please feel to state your opinions freely in this co-op. Even those with only 1 share (heck even no shares) deserve to have their opinion or insight heard.

    1 share (from thomas s) reserved from R3 (some of our many backup shares: we have shares avail. in R2-4 still; please read appropriate thread for details. For R2 please contact me directly, those are the ones with the least free shares I believe)

    1 share reserved for R4 the anon. new co-op member that's correctly in newbie jail we all have to go thru.  ;D

    73 shares available.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 06:35:41 AM
    Attempting to buy a PP share at Coinbase: all buys paused for a few min.?

    Also, will be buying my 2 R3 & 2 R4 shares via BTC to HF in a few minutes.


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 07:01:35 AM
    Main payment from deposited funds: https://blockchain.info/tx/053a7d52383b0ea2832313ade808b7f7ac73d7ab1d26006d2c8d396f6ccaba1f

    My shares (2 in R3, 2 in R4 followed) with an extra 0.538 BTC added by me to help things along & possibly keep another share in R4 w/ that overpayment. My total BTC contribution to R3/R4 - 2.754 BTC: https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL


    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 07:38:52 AM
    To show that I didn't send it to some guys selling me this sweet, sweet bridge:


    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Top.png

    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Btm.png

    ==

    Ah dunno though. That bridge deal sounded nice.

    ==

    Here's a share paid via a PayPal/me/Coinbase float (I actually triggered it too early, but ah well): https://blockchain.info/tx/c25e2c37d7acad4a791e4c5e30b373432dc42ea827ad533c844a8439f15dbe02


    Title: [OPEN, 73 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 07:42:01 AM
    Total downpayment paid for both miners: https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL

    50.6877 BTC so far...

    Not too worried though, I know the bulk of it's coming in a couple of days, three at the most.

    Worse comes to very worse, we'll have an MPP Sierra to divvy up thanks to thomas s R3 shares, moohahah.

    ==

    Ok, checking out. Please follow up with thomas s in a few hours if you have pressing questions. I'll be checking msgs. thru the day but it would probably be best to go through thomas first.

    I need to reconfirm share ownerships but the main thing is having either: A) a PM to thomas or I or B) a public declaration of your ownership, Tx ID, etc..

    A is preferable but B works too. I'll count myself down for another share so we can keep things moving. My count goes up to 3 shares for R4.

    ==


    73 shares available at Flash Sale Pricing!
    This is the only place you can still find Flash Sale pricing (this one on a non-MPP unit).

    Offer good till Friday.



    Title: Re: [OPEN, 74 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 07:48:11 AM
    Im to lazy to read how much a share is, so I sent you 1 btc for my last share. anything else can be donated to someone who might just be short/ could donate for a good cause.


    Title: [OPEN, 69 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $69
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 07:49:38 AM
    I may have not counted a thomas s PM msg. for 5 shares. I'll retract them later if necessary but for now:

    69
    shares available!

    69 shares at $69 each. Offer only good till Friday.

    If we don't sell out and collect BTC for this 2nd Flash Sale non-MPP Sierra Miner by Friday, this 2nd miner may go away..

    Night y'all! Sending Bob's BTC & getting zzzz's.


    Title: Re: [69 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 08:22:42 AM
    51.6877 BTC sent for R3/R4 so far. https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL

    138.66 BTC total needed to pay for both miners by Friday night.


    Not too worried though. We have the best pricing on a GB HashFast unit anywhere for the next few days and 1 guaranteed Sierra at the very least.  ;)

    ...and the Flash Sale pricing still beats the stuffing out of anything else out there at the moment.


    Title: Re: [69 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thehun on September 24, 2013, 05:12:06 PM
    Sent payment for 10 shares, please confirm


    Title: Re: [69 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
    Every time I go to sleep I feel like we sell a machine lol.


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 05:51:02 PM
    Hehe, it's your fault we have this R4 going on, you rascal! You saw where the R3/R4 miners are going? Some state far away from me.

    thehun is confirmed PAID on his 10 R4 shares.


    59 shares left out of 200 total for 2 miners, get 'em while you still can...at-cost...blue on TGB projections...mmm...


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 06:07:41 PM
    Not only did he kick off R4, he's going to be hosting a batch of KNC Jupiters for me down there, too....


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 24, 2013, 06:28:55 PM
    Not only did he kick off R4, he's going to be hosting a batch of KNC Jupiters for me down there, too....
    ITS SO SHINY I COULD DIE.

    EDIT: Also, a warehouse full of science is pretty dam cool. Might put it that way on my resume.


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 06:32:00 PM
    That depends.  Actually, I think  a warehouse full of explosives would be much more interesting...
    But I'm cool with science, too... :)   How much to host, say, a relatively small tokamak reactor?


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: Miramyn on September 24, 2013, 06:43:37 PM
    Greetings all

    Just wanted to drop in and say hello
    I've just bought into Round4 and am very happy to be part of the group


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
    Welcome!  Glad to see you finally escaped from newbie prison....


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thehun on September 24, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
    Hehe, it's your fault we have this R4 going on, you rascal! You saw where the R3/R4 miners are going? Some state far away from me.

    thehun is confirmed PAID on his 10 R4 shares.


    59 shares left out of 200 total for 2 miners, get 'em while you still can...at-cost...blue on TGB projections...mmm...

    Thanks,

    you might have to launch round 5 soon!


    Title: [54 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 09:14:13 PM
    Hehe, it's your fault we have this R4 going on, you rascal! You saw where the R3/R4 miners are going? Some state far away from me.

    thehun is confirmed PAID on his 10 R4 shares.


    59 shares left out of 200 total for 2 miners, get 'em while you still can...at-cost...blue on TGB projections...mmm...

    Thanks,

    you might have to launch round 5 soon!

    I was doing Round 2 just last week. 3 GBs in a week has been a bit rough but who knows... people seem to like the at-cost HF miner shares so it's possible!

    My next focus after our co-ops HF Miner #4 is secured this week, is checking in with R1/R2 members to finalize decisions on whether to double our Baby Jet hashrate to 800GH/s at only 25% more cost.

    5 more shares reserved! Reserved by 2 (so far) anonymous gentlemen.

    54 shares remaining.

    ==

    Also, quick check: I believe someone just added 47BTC to the Group's wallet for R3/R4. Who was that masked man?


    Title: Re: [54 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 24, 2013, 09:17:10 PM
    Hehe, it's your fault we have this R4 going on, you rascal! You saw where the R3/R4 miners are going? Some state far away from me.

    thehun is confirmed PAID on his 10 R4 shares.


    59 shares left out of 200 total for 2 miners, get 'em while you still can...at-cost...blue on TGB projections...mmm...

    Thanks,

    you might have to launch round 5 soon!

    I was doing Round 2 just last week. 3 GBs in a week has been a bit rough but who knows... people seem to like the at-cost HF miner shares so it's possible!

    My next focus after our co-ops HF Miner #4 is secured this week, is checking in with R1/R2 members to finalize decisions on whether to double our Baby Jet hashrate to 800GH/s at only 25% more cost.

    5 more shares reserved! Reserved by 2 (so far) anonymous gentlemen.

    54 shares remaining.

    ==

    Also, quick check: I believe someone just added 47BTC to the Group's wallet for R3/R4. Who was that masked man?
    Who'd you think? lol

    Mines


    Title: Re: [54 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 09:19:57 PM
    Thought it was you.

    Or someone dropping a chunk for the rest of the open R4 shares, eheh.


    Title: Re: [59 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 09:21:55 PM
    Not only did he kick off R4, he's going to be hosting a batch of KNC Jupiters for me down there, too....

    Nice Bob! Glad to see you're getting more miners from folks trying to save BTC on hosting at a professional colocation site.


    Title: Re: [54 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 09:39:50 PM
    Confirming that thomas_s paid for 50 shares for Round 3, including shares for:

    - thomas_s, 47 shares
    - PP payment to Thomas on behalf of an anon. member, 1 share
    - Anonymous R1 member, 1 share donation (adjusted for 1.5 shares after 3rd donation to member) from thomas_s
    - Anonymous R2 Hero who had donated .62 BTC to the R1 member with major physical disabilities. Was rewarded for good deed by thomas_s for 1 share in R3 (which was donated to me who donated half to our R1 member, and half to the Anonymous Hero's favorite charity in Asia)


    Title: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 10:10:10 PM
    6 shares reserved by PM by a Round 3 co-op member.

    Thanks and welcome aboard again.  ;D

    48 shares remaining.

    Looks like we're on track to sell out this loverly 4th miner before Friday night (crossing fingers).


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 10:22:08 PM
    I dunno - you still have 33 shares to go before I have to worry about paying, and 38 to go before my buy of those last ten shares kicks in....


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 24, 2013, 10:23:33 PM

    I dunno - you still have 33 shares to go before I have to worry about paying, and 38 to go before my buy of the last ten shares kicks in....

    You still don't know how many I can get =) but me buying all the sierra's isn't really a GB now is it.


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 10:25:10 PM
    Well, I guess if you buy a group of machines you could classify that as a group buy, for you...   ;)

    How about we don't get into a contest about who has the most money, or we'll be trying to out-sierra each other...   ;D


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 24, 2013, 10:25:50 PM
    Well, I guess if you buy a group of machines you could classify as a group buy, for you...   ;)
    I'd suggest you just buy up the 10 shares now


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
    Actually, I think DZ already has them counted in...  He's tricky that way...


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 10:28:31 PM
    Well, I guess if you buy a group of machines you could classify as a group buy, for you...   ;)

    How about we don't get into a contest about who has the most money...   ;D

    How about we all agree that we all drank the Bitcoin Miner's Kool Aid and that we all hope to be laughing in a few years about getting in while it was still the groundfloor.  ;)


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 24, 2013, 10:30:56 PM
    I guess I'm just going to have to pull a

    http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/Shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg

    and hope that there are enough shares for my BTC


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 24, 2013, 10:33:28 PM
    I already have -Redacted- down for 10 shares for R4.  ;D

    He was hoping one of the co-op members would sell him an R2 share so he could complete his DZ Miner's Cooperative GB share Boxed Set.


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 24, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
    And if so, could I get that share in blue?  I don't have that color in this set, and I think it has the most RAM...

    Wait....   What are we buying here, exactly ?


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 25, 2013, 12:02:05 AM
    And if so, could I get that share in blue?  I don't have that color in this set, and I think it has the most RAM...

    Wait....   What are we buying here, exactly ?
    Science!


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 25, 2013, 12:03:50 AM
    SHINEY!  I'll take 10.  Thanks!


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 25, 2013, 12:17:57 AM
    SHINEY!  I'll take 10.  Thanks!
    I kinda did that with singles. I regret nothing.


    Title: Re: [OPEN,78 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: tripppn on September 25, 2013, 02:27:29 AM

    With that said, I'll hold -Redacted- to what he said about 10 shares to move things along. To compensate, buying won't open for R4 until we hit 85 shares reserved. BTW, R3's payments are still in movement from co-op members. R3 order's secure; we just don't have all the funds quite yet (but most of 'em).


    Oh - like that's fair - you're going to give it an entire extra week on the GB just to get me to cough up for another ten shares....  :)

    Offer still stands, with THIS COMING FRIDAY as the deadline to get the other 90 shares in place....   ;)

    Thanks! Hey, at least I moved it up to 85 shares reserved before sales start.  ;)  ;D

    If we get to 85 shares, I'm guessing the last 15 will vanish soon after, the way these things go. ...And since I took the extra step of calling John this Monday Morning to stall on full payments for 2 Sierras, this appears to be the only place *anywhere* you can lock in Flash Sale pricing that ends tonight, all the way through this Friday.

    ...still digging ditches and carrying water, for y'all. I'll add more details of my 12.5 minute call with the head of HashFast marketing this morning, including stuff that's not available in any other thread or news site.

    Did I miss the news you were talking about back in this post?  I'm a news/info junkie!


    Title: Re: [OPEN,78 shares avail.]R4: HF Flash Sale 24 HRS ONLY, At-Cost+Host, NON-MPP $6K
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 02:32:53 AM

    With that said, I'll hold -Redacted- to what he said about 10 shares to move things along. To compensate, buying won't open for R4 until we hit 85 shares reserved. BTW, R3's payments are still in movement from co-op members. R3 order's secure; we just don't have all the funds quite yet (but most of 'em).


    Oh - like that's fair - you're going to give it an entire extra week on the GB just to get me to cough up for another ten shares....  :)

    Offer still stands, with THIS COMING FRIDAY as the deadline to get the other 90 shares in place....   ;)

    Thanks! Hey, at least I moved it up to 85 shares reserved before sales start.  ;)  ;D

    If we get to 85 shares, I'm guessing the last 15 will vanish soon after, the way these things go. ...And since I took the extra step of calling John this Monday Morning to stall on full payments for 2 Sierras, this appears to be the only place *anywhere* you can lock in Flash Sale pricing that ends tonight, all the way through this Friday.

    ...still digging ditches and carrying water, for y'all. I'll add more details of my 12.5 minute call with the head of HashFast marketing this morning, including stuff that's not available in any other thread or news site.

    Did I miss the news you were talking about back in this post?  I'm a news/info junkie!
    Yes, we have the price locked in for both units until Friday. Meaning if you'd like to purchase the shares at cost ( of the sale) + host / ups system you have until Friday or until the shares are all gone.


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: tripppn on September 25, 2013, 02:37:09 AM
    No... this part...

    "I'll add more details of my 12.5 minute call with the head of HashFast marketing this morning, including stuff that's not available in any other thread or news site."

    Especially the part in red


    Title: Re: [48 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: wontons on September 25, 2013, 02:41:06 AM
    BTC sent for 4 shares of R4!  Thanks gents :)

    wontons


    Title: [44 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 03:54:25 AM
    From both of us: you're welcome! And Thank you!

    44 shares available!

    Getting to PMs in a bit. I do have to do honey do's too list just like all poor bast...lucky souls.

    ==

    Re: My phone call with John S. yesterday: I didn't get a chance to update although I wanted to. I'm not upgraded to not be able to sleep. Yet.

    I'll post about my phone conversation with him in a few minutes. Also, an anonymous largest shareholder in R2 had his PP gift payment cleared to my checking! That means I can go buy this person shares for 6.601 shares in R2 worth about $1K. So I'll take care of that soon.


    Title: [44 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 04:52:10 AM
    Let me preface this statement about Avalon & BFL for those that are new to the co-op, I'll help anyone that asks for my help or opinion on this forum. Doesn't matter if they're a competitor here or IRL. Not to toot my horn but I'm involved in 3 education based volunteer community projects in Kauai schools & my IT job is literally to keep modern Research Labs running (oh & go design some stuff when neat projects come up), so helping others comes naturally to me.

    Based on the words *and* actions of the public faces of both companies I refuse to have anything to do with Avalon and BFL Group Buys. I find the words and actions of both Sr. company officers here and on BFL's forums to be completely amateurish for Customer Service in *any* industry, derogatory, insensitive, and just plain hurtful. I'll have nothing to do with either company as long as they're the public faces and primary actors for both companies. They may make fine products. They may make the best products in the near future. Still won't have anything to do w/ 2 companies that caused so much anguish and distress among their *already paid* customers.

    I'm an empath. Often, I literally *feel* the distress of others & have my whole life, as if it was my own. Yup, always been a softie but this softie has ridden 25' face waves as a teen, and still surfs, and skates (well more like bombs hills and mountains w/ a bunch of diff. land boards). BTW, we call that 25' wave: 10-12' Hawaiian (AKA as "the macho" scale) around here.

    ==

    So back to my phone call to HashFast's VP Marketing & Sales, John S.: I called him because I was trying to secure a 2nd Sierra via 50%-ish deposits for 2 units, 1 w/ MPP (R3), and 1 without (R4) at Flash Sale pricing. Let's just say that it took a while to resolve our R1 order (they even overcharged me & kept it for almost 1.5-2 weeks) so I felt like they owed me. Plus, I can be slightly persuasive.  :D

    First off, he said he wasn't pissed off at me at all. Previously, I had mentioned in a PM that HashFast only got 4 votes in the Sept. ASIC miners poll I host (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291775.0 Yup, I told him that) but I still sold a 2nd HashFast miner (well, I was approached w/ a buyout offer from an online friend here, but the result's the same). John said it really takes a lot to get him upset. He's been in marketing for a while, and he says this is the most welcoming market he's ever seen! It helps that they're launching on the heels of bad news from Avalon and BFL, with a huge market void in the price range/performance they had released at (as far as product availability).

    John said HF is *not* catering to the hobbyist with Sierras; that's what Baby Jets are for. He didn't know that he was talking to someone that gets to help design custom servers (even proprietary ones) and is a server monkey, so I already knew that what w/ that 2RU rackmount profile meant. He said that while they're a professional company, they're a small start-up that runs very lean. He mentioned that they released the lowest priced unit that they possibly could at the time with the Baby Jet. I said that their customers appreciate it and welcome their product launch and prices.

    I mentioned that GBCs such as myself appreciate the prices but that most people can't afford even the cheapest HF unit & that Coordinators such as myself help broaden HashFast's reach, appeal, and accessibility to the average miner, and that my co-op offers at-cost pricing to buyers & that we included UPS/Batt. requisitions into our share prices (to keep BTC flowing during 20-30 minute outages, sags, spikes); essentially, I was helping them out in market for free, at much, much lower price points - three, even two digits for this GB - then they can offer for the foreseeable future. So, that's how we ended up w/ a R4 miner with Flash Sale pricing through the end of the week.

    As a small company he said that the stringent CC regulations and the risk of too many chargebacks sinking their company dissuaded them from CC sales. John said that people could do pre-orders which would be used for work and hardware acquisitions, and they could refund them right before shipment (perhaps people selling pre-orders and bailing the orders?) which would sink them at this point if that were to happen. He also mentioned that they looked at BTC escrow but couldn't find anything that could help them that was insured to the levels they need.

    I asked him about the 1RU controller for the Sierra & mentioned there was no pricing or product specs for this. He said any cheap 1RU unit would work as long as there were lots of USB ports. He said a Pi (which ships w/ their Baby Jet) could even run a Sierra provided you had (Pi compatible) USB port expanders w/ their own power adapter since Pis don't put out enough oomph (that's a technical term in electronics and automobiles). I have 1 Pi ready to go I was going to ship to Bob before he gets the Sierra miners he's hosting for us. BTW, John's in *sales* so don't hold him to the Pi being able to control a Sierra as gospel.

    I also gave him my full name because he'll need it for the buyout we've scheduled for Order 616. I sent HF the links related to the R2 buyout; to "prime the pump." Then, I followed up with emails confirming the things we talked about.

    As for John S.: I found him to be engaging, level headed, & while I could tell he was busy I didn't feel rushed in covering questions I had related to various co-op GB Rounds. We laughed about how simple this is compared to our past experiences. I mentioned having to deal with panicking Project Managers in charge of billions of dollars of funding when I used to work at PMRF and he laughed about how friendly everyone was, and hasn't found his customers to be difficult to deal with at all.


    Title: [43 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 06:07:25 AM
    Share reserved via PM by a user starting w/ the letter J. They also already paid. Thank you and welcome aboard!

    43 shares left.

    ===

    BTC Total in R3/R4 wallet: 51.6877

    BTC already sent for R3/R4:  51.6877   (https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL)

    Total BTC in hand or paid: 106.87, 77%
    Total BTC needed for full payment: 138.662



    Title: [43 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 06:14:22 AM
    106.87516728 BTC sent: https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL

    77% of the way there and we still have 43 shares left. Not bad!

    We've secured the R3 miner and more than half of the R4 miner.


    Title: Re: [43 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 03:04:32 PM
    106.87516728 BTC sent: https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL

    77% of the way there and we still have 43 shares left. Not bad!

    We've secured the R3 miner and more than half of the R4 miner.
    Nice,

    I'm here and awaiting any PM's to get those last few shares.


    Title: Re: [43 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 05:28:58 PM
    If you're on the fence about getting the shares please do so now, if you've reserved shares please send payment to the address as soon as possible so the units can be paid in full tonight.

    A little birdy told me that there won't be many if any shares left tomorrow morning.


    Title: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
    A lil birdy might be right!

    23 more shares reserved via PM by gents w/ names starting with: "A" (20 more shares for 23 total) and "J" (3 more shares for 4 total).

    20 shares left! Then that's all she wrote!


    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
    Please send R3/R4 questions and reservations, payment confirmations to Thomas.

    I gotta head to work. I'll get to PMs tonight I missed from yesterday, or if possible please mention your urgent concerns to Thomas.



    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: abdullahadam on September 25, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
    Two important questions

    1) Is there a spreadsheet for all past and current GBs that indicate the # of shares each person has purchased?
    2) Did you post the actual purchase receipts for the currently ordered devices?



    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 06:08:13 PM
    Two important questions

    1) Is there a spreadsheet for all past and current GBs that indicate the # of shares each person has purchased?
    2) Did you post the actual purchase receipts for the currently ordered devices?



    1- DZ is currently finalizing the spreadsheet. (It should  be done soon as the GB is basically sold out)

    2-
    To show that I didn't send it to some guys selling me this sweet, sweet bridge:


    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Top.png

    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Btm.png

    ==

    Ah dunno though. That bridge deal sounded nice.

    ==

    Here's a share paid via a PayPal/me/Coinbase float (I actually triggered it too early, but ah well): https://blockchain.info/tx/c25e2c37d7acad4a791e4c5e30b373432dc42ea827ad533c844a8439f15dbe02


    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 25, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
    Just sent you payment for my 10 shares of GB-4....

    http://blockchain.info/tx/427e7dd3434bbd223f71ddf3ecdb872d65277fc8912408181659ccbba9ea65c4


    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 06:09:27 PM
    Just sent my payment for 10 shares of GB-4....

    http://blockchain.info/tx/427e7dd3434bbd223f71ddf3ecdb872d65277fc8912408181659ccbba9ea65c4

    Got it. Please see your PM.


    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 06:20:16 PM
    Two important questions

    1) Is there a spreadsheet for all past and current GBs that indicate the # of shares each person has purchased?
    2) Did you post the actual purchase receipts for the currently ordered devices?



    1- DZ is currently finalizing the spreadsheet. (It should  be done soon as the GB is basically sold out)

    2-
    To show that I didn't send it to some guys selling me this sweet, sweet bridge:


    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Top.png

    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Btm.png

    ==

    Ah dunno though. That bridge deal sounded nice.

    ==

    Here's a share paid via a PayPal/me/Coinbase float (I actually triggered it too early, but ah well): https://blockchain.info/tx/c25e2c37d7acad4a791e4c5e30b373432dc42ea827ad533c844a8439f15dbe02

    Finalizing but I'm sending to Thomas this evening so we have all shares and proper ownerships accounted for in R3/R4. I'm taking care of R2 spreadsheet separately as that's still very much in flux (I think 2 R2 shares are unpaid so there's an opportunity there too if payments aren't made by 8PM HST). If there's overpayments after 8PM HST due to people trying to scramble to get those last 2 shares, I'll refund anyone that paid too late, immediately.

    Please be patient with us. We're essentially working for free at the moment for the GB Forum. It's been a ton of work behind the scenes to give you these exclusive at-cost prices and sell 3 HashFast miners in a week. The pre-planning we had already accomplished is why we were able to go live w/ a HF Flash Sale within an hour of the email blast.


    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: minerphil on September 25, 2013, 06:23:22 PM
    In for 2 shares!

    Wish it could be for more, but thats all thats in my wallet at the moment.

    Happy to be part of this BG with some experience at the helm.

    Thanks DZ / Thomas and others for making this happen.


    Title: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
    You're welcome! Sorry to be brief via phone but welcome aboard!

    18 shares avail


    Title: Re: [20 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 25, 2013, 06:28:18 PM
    Two important questions

    1) Is there a spreadsheet for all past and current GBs that indicate the # of shares each person has purchased?
    2) Did you post the actual purchase receipts for the currently ordered devices?



    1- DZ is currently finalizing the spreadsheet. (It should  be done soon as the GB is basically sold out)

    2-
    To show that I didn't send it to some guys selling me this sweet, sweet bridge:


    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Top.png

    http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Sierras-GBHashFastUnits3and4-Btm.png

    ==

    Ah dunno though. That bridge deal sounded nice.

    ==

    Here's a share paid via a PayPal/me/Coinbase float (I actually triggered it too early, but ah well): https://blockchain.info/tx/c25e2c37d7acad4a791e4c5e30b373432dc42ea827ad533c844a8439f15dbe02

    Finalizing but I'm sending to Thomas this evening so we have all shares and proper ownerships accounted for in R3/R4. I'm taking care of R2 spreadsheet separately as that's still very much in flux (I think 2 R2 shares are unpaid so there's an opportunity there too if payments aren't made by 8PM HST). If there's overpayments after 8PM HST due to people trying to scramble to get those last 2 shares, I'll refund anyone that paid too late, immediately.

    Please be patient with us. We're essentially working for free at the moment for the GB Forum. It's been a ton of work behind the scenes to give you these exclusive at-cost prices and sell 3 HashFast miners in a week. The pre-planning we had already accomplished is why we were able to go live w/ a HF Flash Sale within an hour of the email blast.


    Here - just in case those two (blue!) shares of R2 open up, I sent you $303.50 for them.

    http://blockchain.info/tx/ff6ba36100ffa2e45c21a247eee2602e47c53533a5f9456c5dc549cf5e9caab4



    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 06:30:50 PM
    Ha! The ultimate dibs, you wily miner you.  :D

    No worries, I'll refund you immediately if those 2 wayward R2 gents show up for their payments. If not: well, fortune favors the prepared!

    Also, thx for confirming wallet address. Plz confirm your wallet address for payouts and include the Round # (some people want to keep miner earnings separate from other miners they own shares in)!


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 25, 2013, 06:45:39 PM
    Ha! The ultimate dibs, you wily miner you.  :D

    No worries, I'll refund you immediately if those 2 wayward R2 gents show up for their payments. If not: well, fortune favors the prepared!

    Also, thx for confirming wallet address. Plz confirm your wallet address for payouts and include the Round # (some people want to keep miner earnings separate from other miners)!

    Ill have some picture-porn of the inside of the warehouse later tonight with all my current hardware :)


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
    Ha! The ultimate dibs, you wily miner you.  :D

    No worries, I'll refund you immediately if those 2 wayward R2 gents show up for their payments. If not: well, fortune favors the prepared!

    Also, thx for confirming wallet address. Plz confirm your wallet address for payouts and include the Round # (some people want to keep miner earnings separate from other miners)!

    Ill have some picture-porn of the inside of the warehouse later tonight with all my current hardware :)
    If you need some cheap cat 5e cable I found a good company to deal with over the summer at my summer IT job.


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: wontons on September 25, 2013, 07:01:34 PM
    Well, if there happen to be any other drop out for some reason on the previous rounds, I'd be interested in picking up the slack. ;)


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 25, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
    Ha! The ultimate dibs, you wily miner you.  :D

    No worries, I'll refund you immediately if those 2 wayward R2 gents show up for their payments. If not: well, fortune favors the prepared!

    Also, thx for confirming wallet address. Plz confirm your wallet address for payouts and include the Round # (some people want to keep miner earnings separate from other miners)!

    Ill have some picture-porn of the inside of the warehouse later tonight with all my current hardware :)
    If you need some cheap cat 5e cable I found a good company to deal with over the summer at my summer IT job.
    I have 3x 1000ft Cat6 boxes with heads etc, and I ordered like 100 25ft cables from monoprice. I might die to cable-tangle


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 07:43:48 PM
    Well, if there happen to be any other drop out for some reason on the previous rounds, I'd be interested in picking up the slack. ;)

    Noted! Thank you, you're first on the list for Backup shares for R4.


    28.8025344 BTC in R4 payment wallet: https://blockchain.info/address/1C5R7t1XdVPxUBFUnBWJnRPx7ZMZBgnv7L

    135.67770168 BTC on hand or already paid of ~138-ish BTC owed to HashFast for 2 Sierras. Almost there Woohoo!

    ==

    After we secure the 138.66 BTC to HashFast, BTC deposits above 138BTC are intended for at-cost UPS & Battery Backup for your particular round's miner; we should be able to get away w/ one larger UPS for both units w/ a good sized battery bank, with the additional funds we raise w/ the shares still available.

    So: TL;DR: Additional funds collected above 138BTC is going to at-cost UPS/Battery Backups for approximately 20-30 minutes of backup protection from short outages (blackouts), as well as voltage sag (brownouts), and voltage spike protection to protect circuitry.

    Also, -Redacted- has funds in the R4 wallet meant for 2 shares in R2 if wayward R2 gents don't pay their shares before 8PM HST tonight.


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: dbasql on September 25, 2013, 08:04:35 PM
    I have contacted metal_jacke1 via PM. Assuming we can get together for payment I will take the last 18 @ $69.


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: abdullahadam on September 25, 2013, 08:07:32 PM
    I contacted thomas_s and paid for 5 shares.
    https://blockchain.info/tx/aef5aa2b269580a02bd4d23a7d2d479e1462f5ebbc59509a76875ece18abef4f


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
    All shares are accounted for, if you've messaged me already requesting shares your covered.

    If shares open up (which they might) DZ or I will post.


    Title: Re: [18 shares avail.]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host,NON-MPP $69 ea
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 08:12:31 PM
    I have contacted metal_jacke1 via PM. Assuming we can get together for payment I will take the last 18 @ $69.

    I am sorry at the moment all shares have been accounted for if any open up DZ or I will be sure to post, some R3 shares may open up later this week.


    Title: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 08:14:15 PM
    Well, that's it I suppose. Please contact Thomas for backup shares. wontons is currently in pole position for first crack at backup shares for R4 that may become available.

    Thank you Thomas for co-ordinating R3 and R4 with me. It's been a pleasure! We wouldn't have R3/R4 available if it wasn't for him.

    Thank you to everyone that reserved and/or paid for R3/R4 shares. It's an honor to be your co-GBC and primary remote admin for these Sierras.


    0 shares remaining.
    Please PM Thomas for backup R4 shares.

    Also, please contact me if you'd like to be a 3rd remote admin for R3/R4 (or even R2 if you have shares there).


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 08:19:27 PM
    Well, that's it I suppose. Please contact Thomas for backup shares. wontons is currently in pole position for first crack at backup shares for R4 that may become available.

    Thank you Thomas for co-ordinating R3 and R4 with me. It's been a pleasure! We wouldn't have R3/R4 available if it wasn't for him.

    Thank you to everyone that reserved and/or paid for R3/R4 shares. It's an honor to be your co-GBC and primary remote admin for these Sierras.


    0 shares remaining.
    Please PM Thomas for backup R4 shares.

    Also, please contact me if you'd like to be a 3rd remote admin for R3/R4 (or even R2 if you have shares there).
    =)

    After talking with bobsag3 we have decided to open up R5, it is for a new unit called the superamazingminer clocked at over 9million gh/s costing $1.6mil. R5 will be first come first served.

    1/1 share available


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 08:27:09 PM
    Payment for 5 shares in R4 for anon. user "a.....................m.": PAID and confirmed.

    Thank you and welcome back!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: Miramyn on September 25, 2013, 08:45:00 PM
    Well, that's it I suppose. Please contact Thomas for backup shares. wontons is currently in pole position for first crack at backup shares for R4 that may become available.

    Thank you Thomas for co-ordinating R3 and R4 with me. It's been a pleasure! We wouldn't have R3/R4 available if it wasn't for him.

    Thank you to everyone that reserved and/or paid for R3/R4 shares. It's an honor to be your co-GBC and primary remote admin for these Sierras.


    0 shares remaining.
    Please PM Thomas for backup R4 shares.

    Also, please contact me if you'd like to be a 3rd remote admin for R3/R4 (or even R2 if you have shares there).
    =)

    After talking with bobsag3 we have decided to open up R5, it is for a new unit called the superamazingminer clocked at over 9million gh/s costing $1.6mil. R5 will be first come first served.

    1/1 share available




    Wow with specs like that its gotta be a BFL

    Delivery is Jan 2020 I assume?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 25, 2013, 08:47:56 PM
    Well, that's it I suppose. Please contact Thomas for backup shares. wontons is currently in pole position for first crack at backup shares for R4 that may become available.

    Thank you Thomas for co-ordinating R3 and R4 with me. It's been a pleasure! We wouldn't have R3/R4 available if it wasn't for him.

    Thank you to everyone that reserved and/or paid for R3/R4 shares. It's an honor to be your co-GBC and primary remote admin for these Sierras.


    0 shares remaining.
    Please PM Thomas for backup R4 shares.

    Also, please contact me if you'd like to be a 3rd remote admin for R3/R4 (or even R2 if you have shares there).
    =)

    After talking with bobsag3 we have decided to open up R5, it is for a new unit called the superamazingminer clocked at over 9million gh/s costing $1.6mil. R5 will be first come first served.

    1/1 share available




    Wow with specs like that its gotta be a BFL

    Delivery is Jan 2020 I assume?

    If it was BFL it would have a delivery date of eventually*

    *actual time may vary.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 25, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
    Two weeks, remember?  :D


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: slayernine on September 26, 2013, 12:55:56 AM
    Remember when Josh was like "hey guys, we'll be caught up by the end of September."  and now here we are...  still waiting for my little single that will maybe never come.  Hopefully Hashfast will work out better for all of us.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 26, 2013, 02:21:49 AM
    https://i.imgur.com/4NmfmlA.jpg
    IT BEGINS


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: corather on September 26, 2013, 02:30:51 AM
    So much excitement!
     :D


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 26, 2013, 06:58:37 AM
    Nice start Bob!

    Here's the 3rd and final payment to HF: https://blockchain.info/tx/466e44078a4ccb020f61d717f6bafe30cc78b0118d92db6e38170cd68207a7dd

    [Like that msg. I added on our behalf?  ;) ]

    Congrats gents! We did it! We even paid on Wednesday instead of Friday, so we ended up ahead of schedule. I need to go thru spreadsheets, starting with R2 with just had recent movement. Sending it to Thomas tonight hopefully. Getting to work now, so I may not be able to get to PMs.

    Please PM Thomas for questions, concerns, he should be up in a few hours.

    Thanks!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 26, 2013, 07:42:52 AM
    So..... r5?
    (I swear I didnt say anything)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 26, 2013, 08:11:12 AM
    So..... r5?
    (I swear I didnt say anything)

    Ha! You just have all that capacity, you instigator. I need to take a little break. A bit GBed out at the moment trying to track 3 diff GBs with short deadlines. For those checking our R3/R4 wallet, someone or someones in R2/R3 sent payments to the wrong Round wallet which explained 1 wallet being too big and the other too small (by the strangely coincidental same amount.  ;D ).

    I was confirming payments but didn't notice the wrong wallet addresses on a couple. I apologize for the confusion. However, we can afford a really nice UPS and Battery bank, gents!

    We're all paid up & our miner should be in the order Q when they get caught up. :)

    I'll post the invoice as soon as I get it, as usual.

    Cheers!

    P.S. R3/R4 spreadsheets coming tomorrow night. Sorry, a bit slammed with 3 GBs & gotta get to bed.

    ===

    BTW, I floated this idea in the other thread but no reason I can't *host* R5 and take a true background role as a co-GBC for 1 or 2 other GBCs. I suppose you guys can use the same wallet & I can handle payments/shipping details if you guys want.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: -Redacted- on September 26, 2013, 08:25:19 AM
    IT BEGINS

    Wow.  Nice picture.  Did someone sneak in and take a photo of the BFL shipping area?
    So this is our hosting center ??   I had expected something slightly, more, errr, ummm.....  Blue?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 26, 2013, 08:30:43 AM
    Here's all 3 transactions for our 2 miner purchases: https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL

    G'night!

    ==

    BTW, Bob, you may want to check with HashFast as to what 19" racks they recommend as some racks have diff. bolt patterns (says this server monkey).


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 26, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
    Everyone that contacted me or thomas_s with a Tx ID has been paid and confirmed.

    I still need to reconfirm R3/R4 payment/ownership tonight in my R3/R4 spreadsheets I'm sending to Thomas tonight but as far as I'm concerned: everyone that reserved and sent a payment in is PAID and CONFIRMED.  :)

    Was a bit surreal sending out about $24K worth of BTC last night on behalf of the co-op for 3 miners being sent to Missouri. We received "Costco" type pricing *and* Costco-type deals (R2 buyout, extended flash sale pricing), by all of us banding together, so pats on the back everyone!

    BTW, I didn't notice new member slayernine sneaking onto the thread.  ;) I had gotten used to seeing him via PM I forgot that was his 1st intro to the co-op.

    Thank you and welcome aboard!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 26, 2013, 07:03:23 PM
    So..... r5?
    (I swear I didnt say anything)
    I'm down with an r5 but gotta work some stuff out first.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 26, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
    So..... r5?
    (I swear I didnt say anything)
    I'm down with an r5 but gotta work some stuff out first.

    For future co-op GBs I don't directly run, I suppose for a 0.5% management fee:

    - I can handle setting up a DZ Miner Cooperative R5, Rx, etc., thread or threads under my username with the caveat that I'm definitely taking a backseat assist as the overall DZ Miner's Cooperative Coordinator
    - Updates to top thread in GB to update latest share reservations and paid shares.
    - Wallet collection in a wallet that's done over 200BTC of transfers on behalf of the co-op
    - Contacts at HashFast including John S.'s work cell #, to get things done quickly
    - Payment to the mfg. and shipping details arranged for the co-op (by majority vote if there's more than 1 vetted miner host contender making their host site available)
    - Backup host sites in multiple US states
    - Remote Administration and remote setup of the miner(s) or co-admin role
    - Handing miner payout details to the GBC who collects the mined BTC for payouts but *supervising* and looking into things if there's any questions/concerns from co-op members.
    - Dispute resolution within the co-op - which should hopefully be very, very rare thanks to the quality of the people that has been assembled.

    Sound fair?

    Thomas has gotten a close up look at how these Rig GBs run & I believe he's now ready to handle his own major Rig GB, having done 3 GBs under my tutelage (and prior GBs to that). He even has some ideas about hosting a site for the co-op that would have a chat room, if anyone would like to help him with this.

    I may run future GBs but I'm def. taking a break to sort spreadsheets out, catch up on things around the house, & unwind a bit. Need to update numbers but I believe our co-op is about 40 members strong now.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 27, 2013, 08:51:16 AM
    Shares list for R3/R4 sent to Thomas to compare notes before publishing.

    Should be published tomorrow evening.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 27, 2013, 01:34:18 PM
    So..... r5?
    (I swear I didnt say anything)
    I'm down with an r5 but gotta work some stuff out first.

    For future co-op GBs I don't directly run, I suppose for a 0.5% management fee:

    - I can handle setting up a DZ Miner Cooperative R5, Rx, etc., thread or threads under my username with the caveat that I'm definitely taking a backseat assist as the overall DZ Miner's Cooperative Coordinator
    - Updates to top thread in GB to update latest share reservations and paid shares.
    - Wallet collection in a wallet that's done over 200BTC of transfers on behalf of the co-op
    - Contacts at HashFast including John S.'s work cell #, to get things done quickly
    - Payment to the mfg. and shipping details arranged for the co-op (by majority vote if there's more than 1 vetted miner host contender making their host site available)
    - Backup host sites in multiple US states
    - Remote Administration and remote setup of the miner(s) or co-admin role
    - Handing miner payout details to the GBC who collects the mined BTC for payouts but *supervising* and looking into things if there's any questions/concerns from co-op members.
    - Dispute resolution within the co-op - which should hopefully be very, very rare thanks to the quality of the people that has been assembled.

    Sound fair?

    Thomas has gotten a close up look at how these Rig GBs run & I believe he's now ready to handle his own major Rig GB, having done 3 GBs under my tutelage (and prior GBs to that). He even has some ideas about hosting a site for the co-op that would have a chat room, if anyone would like to help him with this.

    I may run future GBs but I'm def. taking a break to sort spreadsheets out, catch up on things around the house, & unwind a bit. Need to update numbers but I believe our co-op is about 40 members strong now.
    I nominate you for title of "Spreadsheet Master"


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 27, 2013, 02:00:10 PM
    The wallet is so huge because of a double payment, a user never cc'd me on payment of shares which I believed they needed me to float.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 27, 2013, 02:12:40 PM
    The wallet is so huge because of a double payment, a user never cc'd me on payment of shares which I believed they needed me to float.
    First time ive heard of someone complaining about a "huge" wallet. Btw, I can chip in to help R5 when/if we do.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 27, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
    The wallet is so huge because of a double payment, a user never cc'd me on payment of shares which I believed they needed me to float.
    First time ive heard of someone complaining about a "huge" wallet. Btw, I can chip in to help R5 when/if we do.

    Yes, I'll need to doublecheck but thomas_s had floated 23 shares for another that were instead paid directly...which means:

    We *may* have a few open shares in R3/R4 after everything has sorted out & people have stepped forward or back.

    I won't list us as open & I need Thomas's help to confirm: but it's looking like Thomas will be refunded for 23 R4 shares and....

    We *may*, emphasis on may, have 2 open shares available in R3 and 5 1 open shares available in R4. At this time: Only co-op members, those that have PMed me in the past for backup shares, & those stopping by the thread for the first time will likely know that there appears to be at-cost shares still available.  ;)

    Please PM Thomas and I, if you'd like to soft reserve any of these shares at the at-cost prices discussed.
    It's based on order of Q; based on who contacted us first w/ interest in available shares.

    ==

    Backup Share Q list: Users d*****l, umdorado, and abullahadam. These 3 users have first right of refusal, in this order, to the 7   3 shares that appear to be available.

    The first 2 members in the Backup Share Q have been contacted via PM as they were disappointed to miss out completely and wanted to know about future GBs. I've given them priority since they have no shares in R4 but were interested and had contacted me previously. Still confirming things w/ Thomas, but this double payment for 23 R4 share to Thomas requiring a refund + these 7 available shares appear to be the result of the avalanche of reservations, PMs, questions, and payment confirmations (including 1 double payment) we went thru this past week.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 27, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
    The wallet is so huge because of a double payment, a user never cc'd me on payment of shares which I believed they needed me to float.
    First time ive heard of someone complaining about a "huge" wallet. Btw, I can chip in to help R5 when/if we do.

    Yes, I'll need to doublecheck but thomas_s had floated 23 shares for another that were instead paid directly...which means:

    We *may* have a few open shares in R3/R4 after everything has sorted out & people have stepped forward or back.

    I won't list us as open & I need Thomas's help to confirm: but it's looking like Thomas will be refunded for 23 R4 shares and....

    We *may*, emphasis on may, have 2 open shares available in R3 and 5 open shares available in R4. At this time: Only co-op members, those that have PMed me in the past for backup shares, & those stopping by the thread for the first time will likely know that there appears to be at-cost shares still available.  ;)

    Please PM Thomas and I, if you'd like to soft reserve any of these shares at the at-cost prices discussed.
    It's based on order of Q; based on who contacted us first w/ interest in available shares.

    ==

    Backup Share Q list: Users d*****l, umdorado, and abullahadam. These 3 users have first right of refusal, in this order, to the 7 shares that appear to be available.

    The first 2 members in the Backup Share Q have been contacted via PM as they were disappointed to miss out completely and wanted to know about future GBs. I've given them priority since they have no shares in R4 but were interested and had contacted me previously. Still confirming things w/ Thomas, but this double payment for 23 R4 share to Thomas requiring a refund + these 7 available shares appear to be the result of the avalanche of reservations, PMs, questions, and payment confirmations (including 1 double payment) we went thru this past week.

    I'm on my break now I've responded to I believe all my PM's hopefully with all the ones for the GB I'll check the spreadsheet again when I get home tonight just to make sure.

    As for the R5 I'm down to do it, but like I said gotta work some things out first so we don't accidentally sell too many / too little work with a bunch of wallets etc.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 27, 2013, 07:21:46 PM
    Numbers update for what appears to be the last few shares that opened up but we're only offering to co-op members & people that contacted us that missed out.

    2 R3 shares available, 1 R4 share available.

    3 users already have first right of refusal on these shares. 2 of the users have been contacted & we're waiting to hear back from them.

    ==

    BTW, Dabs nominated me to be an OurASIC treasurer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=301073.msg3245010#msg3245010

    Of course, I retaliated in kind.

    I doubt they'll be able to get traction as community do gooders trying to develop an open source 28nm BTC ASIC chip, but I'm willing to be a treasurer if they can make some headway, appear to be legit, and have some protections in place for the community treasurers trying to help them out.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 27, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
    Numbers update for what appears to be the last few shares that opened up but we're only offering to co-op members & people that contacted us that missed out.

    2 R3 shares available, 1 R4 share available.

    3 users already have first right of refusal on these shares. 2 of the users have been contacted & we're waiting to hear back from them.

    ==

    BTW, Dabs nominated me to be an OurASIC treasurer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=301073.msg3245010#msg3245010

    Of course, I retaliated in kind.

    I doubt they'll be able to get traction as community do gooders trying to develop an open source 28nm BTC ASIC chip, but I'm willing to be a treasurer if they can make some headway, appear to be legit, and have some protections in place for the community treasurers trying to help them out.
    PM'ed you about R3


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: corather on September 28, 2013, 03:28:04 AM
    I'm interested in that last R4 share if no one claims it.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 28, 2013, 04:00:20 AM
    I'm interested in that last R4 share if no one claims it.

    Noted. Thanks corather!



    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 28, 2013, 08:17:30 PM
    ok, back on the case gents. Working on R4 public code then moving to R1/R2 upgrade public code.

    I'll have to get to PMs later. Looks like we'll be able sell last 3 shares; still waiting to hear back from people that were first on Backup Share Q list. If I don't hear back by tonight, I'll contact the 4th and 5th person on the Q list who have contacted me via PM re: their interest in backup shares.

    Still need to refund Thomas 19 shares - 2 share upgrades for a R2 Baby Jet to go to 800-1000GH/s. He was going to be refunded for a 23 share overpayment but he bought 2 more R4 shares for himself, and floated 2 R4 shares for user & one of his previous customers: unknown.usr.

    Also, I have some wayward PP funds incoming to checking so I can buy at Coinbase (only uses bank accts but only 1% fee), so the wallet will be replenished slightly after Thomas's refund. We also have 3 more shares to sell as well as soon as we sort out the Backup share Q situation.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bitterdog on September 28, 2013, 08:35:17 PM

    Is it really wise to have that Gorilla rack so close to that water outlet? That pipe breaks and theres gonna be big issues. Lets hope you got some insurance on those.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 28, 2013, 08:39:08 PM

    Is it really wise to have that Gorilla rack so close to that water outlet? That pipe breaks and theres gonna be big issues. Lets hope you got some insurance on those.
    This is all very very temporary. Alot of the proper racks/wireing was delayed by 2 days so this was my temp setup, also for my equipment. You can be assured I would not handle customers units like that. Also that water outlet has no output... as verified by me before install (paranoid). And yes everything is insured :) Zombie wouldnt alow it otherwise.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 28, 2013, 09:31:30 PM
    Heh, ask any one of my vetted miner hosts about my miner host vetting process. Let's just say it's thorough and is deeper and more in-depth than any comparable Forum vetting agency. I work in Info Security (1 of my hats), so F that if a scammer's getting thru my vetting process. Even though it's in-depth I still have 24 hour or less response time for vetting requests. I've vetted 6 or more hosts and GBCs so far, for free.

    Those 6+ weren't the only ones that approached me for vetting if you look through the detritus of abandoned GBs and miner host threads for those who realized how high the barriers to entry to overcome Group Buyer distrust is if they want to get vetted by me as a host or GBC.

    I tend to say: My vetting services are free but they ain't cheap.  ;)

    I put these guys thru the wringer to be a vetted miner host. I'm rougher on them than any customer could possibly be, but all for a good cause.  ;D


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 28, 2013, 09:33:10 PM
    Heh, ask any one of my vetted miner hosts about my miner host vetting process. Let's just say it's thorough and is deeper and more in-depth than any comparable Forum vetting agency. I work in Info Security (1 of my hats), so F that if a scammer's getting thru my vetting process. I've vetted 6 or more hosts and GBCs so far, for free.

    Those 6+ weren't the only ones that approached me for vetting if you look through the detritus of abandoned GBs and miner host threads for those who realized how high the barriers to entry to overcome Group Buyer distrust is if they want to get vetted by me as a host or GBC.

    I tend to say: My vetting services are free but they ain't cheap.  ;)

    I put these guys thru the wringer to be a vetted miner host. I'm rougher on them than any customer could possibly be, but all for a good cause.  ;D
    Do I hear "bend over and touch your toes"?


    I've also learned that we don't do maths well. =)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: bobsag3 on September 28, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
    Heh, ask any one of my vetted miner hosts about my miner host vetting process. Let's just say it's thorough and is deeper and more in-depth than any comparable Forum vetting agency. I work in Info Security (1 of my hats), so F that if a scammer's getting thru my vetting process. I've vetted 6 or more hosts and GBCs so far, for free.

    Those 6+ weren't the only ones that approached me for vetting if you look through the detritus of abandoned GBs and miner host threads for those who realized how high the barriers to entry to overcome Group Buyer distrust is if they want to get vetted by me as a host or GBC.

    I tend to say: My vetting services are free but they ain't cheap.  ;)

    I put these guys thru the wringer to be a vetted miner host. I'm rougher on them than any customer could possibly be, but all for a good cause.  ;D
    Do I hear "bend over and touch your toes"?


    I've also learned that we don't do maths well. =)
    Im telling you 1+1 = 11. I can prove it!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 28, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
    Sigh, yes it's confirmed. For future GBs, in hindsight, because it's perfect 20/20 vision, perhaps just one person should be sent reservations even if 2 GBCs or more are involved.

    I'm reducing my share to 0 shares for R4, and 5 shares for Thomas. So:

    we still have 2 R3 shares available I'm waiting to hear back from members on the Backup share Q list.

    Update: Thomas to be refunded 20 share overpayment - 2 share R2 upgrades to double hashrate.

    Also, adding some funds via PP, etc.. from wayward PP payments. Taking a break, dem spreadsheets are like dealing with an anaconda, sometimes. Xcel spreadsheets will be available sometime tonight.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 28, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
    Code:
    Round 3: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale, with MPP. 20-30 minute UPS/Battery Backup built into at-cost share price. 
     
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|             Notes                     |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |  2   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    PAID    |  / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  1   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST   | World Class vetted Hosting Avail., W/ Lowest hosting costs        |
    |  1   |  a..........m    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  0   |  jungle_dave    | TBA                                 |   N/A   | Backup Admin, former EE/Net. Engineer. Plants trees in Amazon!    |
    |  2   |  firsttimeuser  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |    2 / DZ Co-op Round1 HashFast BabyJet Vetted Miner Host         |
    |  1   |  corather     | TBA                                 |    PAID    |                                                                                               |
    |  1   |  tripppn     | TBA                                 |    PAID   |            Previous co-op member                              |
    |  20  |  -Redacted-  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |         Boxed Set of DZ MC shares                     |                      
    |  4   |  baros008      | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                                                   |
    |  50 |  thomas_s     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Co-GBC / Donated 1.5 Share to R1 member 0.5 to charity  |
    | 10   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | Votes ceded to GBC. Manual override avail. GBC votes last. In R2|
    |  5   |  Tomdraug | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  1   |  Miramym    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  

    98 shares.
    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **


    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. Mahalo!



    Code:
    [DRAFT; in editing]

    Round 4: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale, with NO MPP. 20-30 minute UPS/Battery Backup built into at-cost share price.
     
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|             Notes                     |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |  0   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    PAID    |  / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  0   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST   | R3 member. Ultra low cost vetted Hosting/Mng. Fee. 2.75%|
    |  5   |  a..........m    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  0   |  jungle_dave    | TBA                                 |    N/A    | Backup Admin, former EE/Net. Engineer. Plants trees in Amazon!    |
    |  2   |  firsttimeuser  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |    DZ Co-op Round1 HashFast BabyJet Vetted Miner Host         |
    |  1   |  corather     | TBA                                 |    PAID    |                                                                                               |
    |  1   |  vaprx     | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                          |
    |  10  |  -Redacted-  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |         Boxed Set of DZ MC shares                     |                      
    |  6   |  baros008      | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                                                   |
    |  5 |  thomas_s     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Co-GBC / Donated 1.5 R3 Share to R1 member 0.5 to charity  |
    | 10   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | Votes ceded to GBC. Manual override avail. GBC votes last. In R2|
    |  1   |  Miramym    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |   R3 member     |  

    |  23 |  amer     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Largest voter for R4 open major decisions  |
    |  2   |  minerphil | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  10   |  thehun    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  

    |  6  |  wontons    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |      |
    | 5   |  jplacek      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | |
    |  9   |  slayernine | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  2   |  tyyatis    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  
    |  2   |  unknown.usr    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |

    100 shares. *Thomas_s and I reduce shares in R4 to solve oversale issue of 3 extra sales.
    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **


    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. Mahalo!




    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on September 28, 2013, 09:54:26 PM
    So, we don't have any one else that wants to be a 3rd co-admin for R3/R4? You'd be able to keep an eye on things directly and fill in if jungle_dave or I can't get to the miner's remote control for whatever reason. Dave has no shares in R3/R4 but he's willing to be a backup admin.

    Network Engineers such as myself tend to build as much robust redundancy into any network they tend to design and build; usually as much redundancy as the project can afford. I've followed this philosophy when building the network of GBCs, vetted miner hosts, and remote admins that service this cooperative and my GBEC services.

    I promise it's not too hard if anyone's interested.  ;)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on September 29, 2013, 05:42:19 AM
    R5 - Batch 1, Order 1 Hashfast Babyjet @ cost

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304377.0

    Open for reservations for anyone who missed R3/R4 or if you are in R3/R4 and want some more shares.

    Yes this order is from Batch 1 and is the first in the order queue.



    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 01, 2013, 01:44:51 AM
    Just an update: all R3/R4 shares are now accounted for. Yay!

    Nice to have that out of the way. Also, no update from HF yet re: our 2 Sierras but I expect to hear from them shortly and did hear back from them yesterday regarding the co-op's shipping destination & ownership transfer for R2, so I know that they're hard at work, even on weekends.

    Also R5, Version 2.0 features a 400-600GH/s KnC miner that should be shipping from Sweden in the next day or two...


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 01, 2013, 02:36:32 AM
    Funds transferred from R3/R4 wallet for Thomas for his R2 upgrade shares at $43 ea.

    Awaiting address confirmation fr. Thomas re: balance of refund.

    1 R4 PP share floating still incoming on my end & that should be it as far as my inputs to the R3/R4 wallet. [FWIW: Myself, Thomas, and even bobsag3, are all committed paying extra to get extra A/C and UPS/battery power for R2-R5 as the extra ability to Overclock could be a big difference maker. I'm also paying extra for R1 to an R1 co-op member for UPS/Battery backup.]


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: thomas_s on October 01, 2013, 02:40:51 AM
    Funds transferred from R3/R4 wallet for Thomas for his R2 upgrade shares at $43 ea.

    Awaiting address confirmation fr. Thomas re: balance of refund.

    1 R4 PP share floating still incoming on my end & that should be it as far as my inputs to the R3/R4 wallet. [FWIW: Myself, Thomas, and even bobsag3, are all committed paying extra to get extra A/C and UPS/battery power for R2-R5 as the extra ability to Overclock could be a big difference maker. I'm also paying extra for R1 to an R1 co-op member for UPS/Battery backup.]

    If anyone would like to donate to extra power for a A/C, UPS/Battery backup you can use this address

    1GcAau869hTtFgwTtS36BK3JAhPrzbKK8A


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 03:03:19 AM
    I have an extra $120 USD that I sent down to bobsag3 hosting.  You can apply that as my UPS contribution across all the boxen...


    Title: Re: [CLOSED, PM 4 Backup Shares]R4:HF FLASH SALE PRICING thru FRI! At-Cost+Host
    Post by: unknown.usr on October 01, 2013, 04:13:17 AM
    So, we don't have any one else that wants to be a 3rd co-admin for R3/R4? You'd be able to keep an eye on things directly and fill in if jungle_dave or I can't get to the miner's remote control for whatever reason. Dave has no shares in R3/R4 but he's willing to be a backup admin.

    Network Engineers such as myself tend to build as much robust redundancy into any network they tend to design and build; usually as much redundancy as the project can afford. I've followed this philosophy when building the network of GBCs, vetted miner hosts, and remote admins that service this cooperative and my GBEC services.

    I promise it's not too hard if anyone's interested.  ;)

    I was always told never to volunteer, but....

    ...I'm a network engineer.  I mostly deal with Microsoft networks and server crap these days, but if nobody else is up for it, I'll do my bid for king and country.   ;)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 04:16:20 AM
    And I'm a UNIX guru, if that's a consideration....


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: unknown.usr on October 01, 2013, 04:26:02 AM
    And I'm a UNIX guru, if that's a consideration....

    There you go, you got your volunteer. ^

    See how I did that.  ;D


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 01, 2013, 07:07:56 AM
    And I'm a UNIX guru, if that's a consideration....

    There you go, you got your volunteer. ^

    See how I did that.  ;D

    Ha!

    Perhaps you guys should do rock-paper-scissors to see who's the 3rd admin. Or as we call it in Hawaii: "Jun Ken Po"


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 07:08:43 AM
    OK.  Paper.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: unknown.usr on October 01, 2013, 12:49:16 PM
    OK.  Paper.

    Rock.  Darn it, I lose.  It's all you.   :)

    However, if you guys do end up needing another admin, just let me know.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: rsbriggs on October 01, 2013, 01:07:25 PM
    No - you are winning.  Rock smashes paper, yes?  Rock also smashing scissors - rock always winning.  Rock can even be smashing other rock.   Is why I always losing when playing strip rock-paper-scissors. :)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 01, 2013, 01:18:55 PM
    I use Ethernet cable. Beat that :P

    Also: GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

    I found out today I had my first power outage. Only at my apartment complex. I drove all the way to my warehouse without noticing if the power was on, only to find everything working great! So... 1 for the city 0 for me early in the morning.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
    No - you are winning.  Rock smashes paper, yes?  Rock also smashing scissors - rock always winning.  Rock can even be smashing other rock.   Is why I always losing when playing strip rock-paper-scissors. :)

    TMI Sis. 

    Ha Ha, paper wraps rock, so I win.  So, now I'm a third-rate-spare-backup-extra-remote-admin or something ??


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 01:45:52 PM
    I use Ethernet cable. Beat that :P

    Also: GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

    I found out today I had my first power outage. Only at my apartment complex. I drove all the way to my warehouse without noticing if the power was on, only to find everything working great! So... 1 for the city 0 for me early in the morning.

    Let's see.  Paper wraps Ethernet cable so it doesn't work.  Scissors cut Ethernet cable so it doesn't work.  Rock smashes Ethernet cable so it doesn't work.   Doesn't seem like much of a winner, that one.  Probably best not to use it in rock-paper-scissors-Ethernet cable games...


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 01, 2013, 01:54:47 PM
    I use Ethernet cable. Beat that :P

    Also: GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

    I found out today I had my first power outage. Only at my apartment complex. I drove all the way to my warehouse without noticing if the power was on, only to find everything working great! So... 1 for the city 0 for me early in the morning.

    Let's see.  Paper wraps Ethernet cable so it doesn't work.  Scissors cut Ethernet cable so it doesn't work.  Rock smashes Ethernet cable so it doesn't work.   Doesn't seem like much of a winner, that one.  Probably best not to use it in rock-paper-scissors-Ethernet cable games...
    Drop box of ethernet cable on other player > victory!
    Or Rock-Paper-Scissors-Network Switch is better?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
    Electronic devices don't fit into that paradigm very well.  Someone needs to invent a more modern version of the game, maybe somethnig along the lines of smartphone-iPad-glockg23...


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 01, 2013, 02:20:39 PM
    Electronic devices don't fit into that paradigm very well.  Someone needs to invent a more modern version of the game, maybe somethnig along the lines of smartphone-iPad-glock23...
    Pretty sure an Iphone/ipad can stop a 22, but not sure about a glock. IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: -Redacted- on October 01, 2013, 02:29:23 PM
    http://www.basspro.com/GLOCK-G23-40-S&W-Compact-High-Capacity-Pistol/product/10218274/


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 01, 2013, 03:08:37 PM
    These miners need to be delivered so I have something else to do besides watching YT videos of people shooting various electronics.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: thomas_s on October 01, 2013, 03:10:58 PM
    These miners need to be delivered so I have something else to do besides watching YT videos of people shooting various electronics.
    Can I score a job with you? Much better than what I have to do everyday lol.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 02, 2013, 12:32:54 AM
    Hehehe, for those not following updates in R1/R2, Copy/pasta from R1:

    Talked to Cara at HF a little while ago:

    - Great news! They're still on track for that Oct. 23-30 shipping window. That may be the very latest HF news on the forums ATM.

    - Cara says she "hearts" us! I was giving her my elevator pitch about providing access to double and triple digit pricepoints HF can't hit yet and she said she "gets it" and that she hearts us. So there. <3  :-*

    Also mentioned the co-op may be up to 45-50 members once we sort out numbers.

    - Touched base on R2 Order 616 buyout and she mentioned the R3/R4 order confirmation should be showing in about 2 days.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 07, 2013, 07:35:28 AM
    Update now that the forum's back up. These two Batch 2 Sierras still appear to be on track for a early November shipping.

    HF is still on track WRT to delivery window, last I heard, and I will sort out wallet addresses tomorrow night for R3/R4 with Thomas now that the forums are back up. Please let me know if your wallet address changed for R3/R4 or if you would just like to re-confirm your R3 and/or R4 wallet payout addresses.

    Mahalo!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 09, 2013, 08:32:51 AM
    R4 finally squared away. Thomas & -R- had to reduce shares & be refunded for 2 and 3 R4 shares, respectively.

    Final users finalized in R3 and R4. Thank you for your patience. For future reference: PLEASE sign transactions or if this isn't possible send a PM with Transaction ID and details.

    These two simple steps will save your Group Buy Coordinators hours of stress if there's any complications.

    OP updated and new code below:

    Code:
    [DRAFT; finished editing; xfer to Excel 10/9]

    Round 4: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale, with NO MPP. 20-30 minute UPS/Battery Backup built into at-cost share price.
     
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|             Notes                     |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |  0   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    PAID    |  / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  0   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST   | R3 member. Ultra low cost vetted Hosting/Mng. Fee. 2.75%|
    |  5   |  TomDraug    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  5   |  a..........m    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  0   |  jungle_dave    | TBA                                 |    N/A    | Backup Admin, former EE/Net. Engineer. Plants trees in Amazon!    |
    |  2   |  firsttimeuser  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |    DZ Co-op Round1 HashFast BabyJet Vetted Miner Host         |
    |  1   |  corather     | TBA                                 |    PAID    |                                                                                               |
    |  1   |  vaprx     | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                          |
    |  7  |  -Redacted-  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |         Boxed Set of DZ MC shares                     |                      
    |  6   |  baros008      | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                                                   |
    |  3 |  thomas_s     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Co-GBC / Donated 1.5 R3 Share to R1 member 0.5 to charity  |
    | 10   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | Votes ceded to GBC. Manual override avail. GBC votes last. In R2|
    |  1   |  Miramym    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |   R3 member     |  

    |  23 |  amer     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Largest voter for R4 open major decisions  |
    |  2   |  minerphil | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  10   |  thehun    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  

    |  6  |  wontons    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |      |
    | 5   |  jplacek      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | |
    |  9   |  slayernine | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  2   |  thyatis    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  
    |  2   |  unknown.usr    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |

    100 shares. *Thomas_s and I reduce shares in R4 to solve oversale issue of 3 extra sales.
    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **


    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. Mahalo!



    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! At-Cost+Host, Await. HF confirmation
    Post by: Tomdraug on October 09, 2013, 01:13:32 PM
    R4 finally squared away. Thomas & -R- had to reduce shares & be refunded for 2 and 3 R4 shares, respectively.

    Final users finalized in R3 and R4. Thank you for your patience. For future reference: PLEASE sign transactions or if this isn't possible send a PM with Transaction ID and details.

    These two simple steps will save your Group Buy Coordinators hours of stress if there's any complications.

    OP updated and new code below:

    Code:
    [DRAFT; finished editing; xfer to Excel 10/9]

    Round 4: HashFast Sierra Flash Sale, with NO MPP. 20-30 minute UPS/Battery Backup built into at-cost share price.
     
    Payouts sent every 2 weeks. Before payout, 2.75% Hosting/Management fees are deducted every 2 weeks once operations begin.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |Shares|    Username     |          Wallet Address             |Share Status|             Notes                     |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |  0   |  DyslexicZombei | 17a29H9BhUnaPZgZSdFifPndGxxWQXayuH  |    PAID    |  / Your GB Coordinator / Net. Eng. / Primary Remote Admin      |
    |  0   |  bobsag3        | TBA                                 |    HOST   | R3 member. Ultra low cost vetted Hosting/Mng. Fee. 2.75%|
    |  5   |  TomDraug    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  5   |  a..........m    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |                                                                  |
    |  0   |  jungle_dave    | TBA                                 |    N/A    | Backup Admin, former EE/Net. Engineer. Plants trees in Amazon!    |
    |  2   |  firsttimeuser  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |    DZ Co-op Round1 HashFast BabyJet Vetted Miner Host         |
    |  1   |  corather     | TBA                                 |    PAID    |                                                                                               |
    |  1   |  vaprx     | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                          |
    |  7  |  -Redacted-  | TBA                                 |    PAID   |         Boxed Set of DZ MC shares                     |                      
    |  6   |  baros008      | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                                                   |
    |  3 |  thomas_s     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Co-GBC / Donated 1.5 R3 Share to R1 member 0.5 to charity  |
    | 10   |  Anonymous      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | Votes ceded to GBC. Manual override avail. GBC votes last. In R2|
    |  1   |  Miramym    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |   R3 member     |  

    |  23 |  amer     | TBA                                 |    PAID  |    Largest voter for R4 open major decisions  |
    |  2   |  minerphil | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  10   |  thehun    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  

    |  6  |  wontons    | TBA                                 |    PAID  |      |
    | 5   |  jplacek      | TBA                                 |    PAID   | |
    |  9   |  slayernine | TBA                                 |    PAID   |                                        |
    |  2   |  thyatis    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |  
    |  2   |  unknown.usr    | TBA                                 |    PAID   |        |

    100 shares. *Thomas_s and I reduce shares in R4 to solve oversale issue of 3 extra sales.
    * 1.5% restock fee for Refunds ** 1.5% fee for optional BTCcrow Escrow protection and dispute resolution. **


    PLEASE SEND A PM IF YOU SEE INCORRECT INFO. Mahalo!



    Thanks a lot DZ and Thomas for resolving my problem and help to get shares

    Cheers,
    Tom


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 14, 2013, 08:17:17 PM
    Here's a HashFast update for those wondering how R3/R4 was going. This was in response to a co-op members PM questions. If the PM info is applicable to the whole co-op involved w/ R3/R4 then I tend to copy/past relevant sections (while preserving anonymity) to the relevant Round thread(s).

    ==

    I talked to Cara at HF on the phone about 8 or 9 days ago. That was my 2nd call w/ her WRT co-op GB details. She said everything's on track. The fact that they made tapeout on schedule last month is a good sign. At least we know they seem to have gotten past the most critical part(s) of the chip fabrication process from what I've read between the lines.

    The fact that Cointerra hasn't said anything about tapeout yet 1 week past their deadline, is not a good sign IMO.

    If all goes well, we should be hashing in the first week of November. We paid a premium for the "insurance of the MPP" in R3, and it looks like this premium is on track to pay off with the difficulty rising so quickly.

    One good thing is that since we have *two* Sierras and since it looks likely that they'll have to ship chips (or chip modules) due to the MPP kicking in, we should be able to fit at least 2 more GN modules (1 in ea. chassis) to bump up our Sierras total nominal hashrate from 1.2TH/s to 2TH/s, without the need for additional hardware.

    If they ship more chips then 2 GN chips due to MPP kicking in, which is likely: we have to decide as a group whether to try to sell any extra chips or build/buy a rig that can be populated with GN modules.

    ==

    For Batch 1, they're supposed to hand carry them on a flight for the fastest delivery and to not have to deal with customs issues. They're doing final fabrication in Canada for faster assembly.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 14, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
    If you've been away from the GB forum, when you get caught up on R3/R4 updates, if you're in Round 3 please leave your thoughts below regarding:

    - either selling excess chips/chip modules we can't use (due to MPP kicking in) OR
    - Buying/building bare rigs to house HashFast Golden Nonce modules

    Option 2 requires us to have to think ahead and secure hardware before MPP chips ship, and possibly have to do an at-cost R3B fundraising round to secure more hardware for more hashrate from our excess MPP chips/chip modules.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on October 14, 2013, 09:06:47 PM
    I like option 2.  More hashing power and I'm up for a little fundraiser.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 14, 2013, 09:24:29 PM
    Thanks tripppn!

    Noted as 1 vote for the upgrade...

    ...hmm, time to change the poll. Please register your opinion publicly or you can send me or Thomas a PM with your preference.

    ==

    By an 11 to 4 public vote, it appears the majority agree that extra A/C for possible extra hashrate makes sense. Changing poll.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Miramyn on October 14, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
    Are there any estimates on how much would need to be raised for the additional HW to run the chips?

    Any estimate on how much the chips could be sold for?

    Hard to make a decision with no estimates on either option


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 14, 2013, 10:35:32 PM
    Yeah, we're all a bit blind here at the moment. It's a bit of the ole: "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" sort of deal. Nothing says people can't change their mind in the future either. After all, we're a direct representative democracy, not a dictatorship.  ;)

    We're human. We do change our minds about things given new or better information.

    Here's the very latest info from CH thread:

    "Hey Guys,

    We realized that a bit of confusion was raised yesterday in regard to the MPP. So this is the official post concerning the MPP:

    HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.

    Cheers,

    Team HashFast"



    Then cypherdoc followed up with:

    "so just to clarify everyone's strategy.

    if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ.  then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules.  you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.

    a cheap 5x power increase.  extraordinary.
    "

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270384.msg3333795#msg3333795

    The news keeps sounding gooder and gooder! Ima gonna keep knocking on my forehead and hoping things proceed well with the 4 HashFast DZ MC orders already paid for (including 1 Baby Jet upgrade, with 1 more pending).


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Miramyn on October 14, 2013, 10:46:29 PM
    OK so parts listed arent that expensive at all. Especially when broken down by share ratio.
    The controller should be easy enough since Im sure most of us have old laptops or PCs that could do the job well enough.

    In that case, record my official vote for the extra hash power to remain in co-op hands


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on October 15, 2013, 12:40:46 AM
    I read on their website that they would ship the units themselves like you said (the modules) as well as making the empty rigs available for purchase at a competitive price.

    This means that full modules will be made available to cover any MPP obligation to Batch 1 Baby Jet customers.  At that time, Hashafast will make empty rigs available for sale at competitive prices.


    So when they put up one of those empty rigs we could always just pick one up if its cheap / quick.

    Hopefully they won't be shipping them by UPS (DZ start kissing ass and get them to switch to DHL or FedEx so our units aren't destroyed in shipping )


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: mrm0 on October 15, 2013, 06:37:23 AM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.



    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 15, 2013, 01:52:51 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on October 15, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money
    You know the way I'm voting lol

    Open air its good to let them breath


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: mrm0 on October 15, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money

    Even better :)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on October 15, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money

    Even better :)
    I believe if mrm0 has shares in R3 that the official majority vote = open air...well hell bobsag3 has shares so insta open air.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: mrm0 on October 15, 2013, 04:30:12 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money

    Even better :)
    I believe if mrm0 has shares in R3 that the official majority vote = open air...well hell bobsag3 has shares so insta open air.

    Now.. where did I put that spreadsheet?... ahh, yes, I seem to have some ;)

    :D

    If bobsag3 thought of a safe solutionin advance (as it seems he has) then spending extra is unnecessary.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on October 15, 2013, 04:31:25 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money

    Even better :)
    I believe if mrm0 has shares in R3 that the official majority vote = open air...well hell bobsag3 has shares so insta open air.

    Now.. where did I put that spreadsheet?... ahh, yes, I seem to have some ;)

    :D

    If bobsag3 thought of a safe solutionin advance (as it seems he has) then spending extra is unnecessary.

    Lol the joke was I have 50% shares so if one person w/ one share voted its insta win.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 15, 2013, 05:53:01 PM
    With the idea to be prepared for upgrade in advance, we probably won't be able to wait for HF empty rigs?

    Still, a 4U (to be able to fit a standard PS) rackmount case is ~$80 at Newegg. Fans are like $4 a piece. PS approx. $120.
    Roughly $250 total.

    I vote for a fundraiser.


    Dont even need case etc, If you guys are ok with it my plan was 1 miner/rack, so that when MPP kicks in plent of space for my to run them in the open. No reason to spend extra money

    Even better :)
    I believe if mrm0 has shares in R3 that the official majority vote = open air...well hell bobsag3 has shares so insta open air.

    Now.. where did I put that spreadsheet?... ahh, yes, I seem to have some ;)

    :D

    If bobsag3 thought of a safe solutionin advance (as it seems he has) then spending extra is unnecessary.

    All the open rigs would be placed on some sort of secure mounting on a non-conductible surface. That means hot glue if I have too.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: mrm0 on October 15, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
    All the open rigs would be placed on some sort of secure mounting on a non-conductible surface. That means hot glue if I have too.

    I am sure you addressed static electricity angle somehow, just checking..


    Lol the joke was I have 50% shares so if one person w/ one share voted its insta win.

    Good one :D #insertMissingThumbUpIconHere :)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 16, 2013, 04:11:20 AM
    New goodies ordered for hosting!
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P8K39G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBK3QK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004054GN8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    + Big server grade UPS.

    http://imgur.com/gUBBTLH


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on October 17, 2013, 02:28:44 AM
    New goodies ordered for hosting!
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P8K39G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBK3QK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004054GN8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    + Big server grade UPS.

    http://imgur.com/gUBBTLH

    Very nice!!!  Is that all included in the price we paid or are we going to be fund raising for those?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on October 17, 2013, 02:32:50 AM
    New goodies ordered for hosting!
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P8K39G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBK3QK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004054GN8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    + Big server grade UPS.

    http://imgur.com/gUBBTLH

    Very nice!!!  Is that all included in the price we paid or are we going to be fund raising for those?
    Already included we merged the UPS funds from a bunch of rounds and bought one big UPS to cover all of them an A/C to keep them cool and a gas generator to keep it going in case of power failure

    UPS keeps it up until bobsag3 can get there to turn the generator on.

    So easiest way to put it DZ rounds going to bobsag3 for hosting will have an A/C / gas generator / UPS system.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: bobsag3 on October 17, 2013, 02:45:53 AM
    New goodies ordered for hosting!
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P8K39G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FBK3QK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004054GN8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    + Big server grade UPS.

    http://imgur.com/gUBBTLH

    Very nice!!!  Is that all included in the price we paid or are we going to be fund raising for those?
    Already included we merged the UPS funds from a bunch of rounds and bought one big UPS to cover all of them an A/C to keep them cool and a gas generator to keep it going in case of power failure

    UPS keeps it up until bobsag3 can get there to turn the generator on.

    So easiest way to put it DZ rounds going to bobsag3 for hosting will have an A/C / gas generator / UPS system.

    Science! Dont forget the Science!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 20, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
    I unlocked voting for the MPP chips decision process.

    If you're in Round 3: Please vote so that your voice can be heard.

    Every share you own counts as 1 vote as usual, if you vote publicly or via PM, which is the official vote vs. the poll, which is a public vote.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on October 21, 2013, 03:43:20 AM
    I vote build a rig


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Tomdraug on October 21, 2013, 12:51:34 PM
    I vote build a rig

    A rig please !!

    Cheers,
    Tom


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: baros008 on October 21, 2013, 06:26:10 PM
    +1 for rig


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on October 21, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
    Noted.

    Thank you for the votes gents!

    Also, please remember: you're always free to change your mind on your early vote, when new information becomes available.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on October 27, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
    I don't have the cash right now, but I'll still put my 3 share votes in for a fund raiser. I don't mind reinvesting enough hashing power to cover the expenses even if it means a longer wait time for a payout.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on October 30, 2013, 03:21:27 AM
    When is this rig supposed to ship and has anyone kept up on if they are on schedule so far?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Tomdraug on October 31, 2013, 09:00:54 PM
    When is this rig supposed to ship and has anyone kept up on if they are on schedule so far?

    Hi tripppn

    Sure NOT 

    See here: https://hashfast.com/updated-shipping-news/

    They are on schedule with everything but the MOST important piece

    And fuck the customer

    You and I pay real money for bullshit news and hope and advertising

    I know it well from communist time in Poland - yes we will deliver yes a lot and yes for everyone and yes you will be one happy Mac but only if you are dead or in the top party rank and fuck off or we will send police to take care of ye

    Enjoy the feeling it is priceless

    So, it is mid November and yes it will be anywhere in December 2020 when btc will be 1M$ per piece

    Sorry for rambling but this is my third GB and every time the honest GB organizers are fucked big time by the smart ass producers

    Cheers anyway,
    Tom


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on October 31, 2013, 09:19:23 PM
    When is this rig supposed to ship and has anyone kept up on if they are on schedule so far?

    Hi tripppn

    Sure NOT 

    See here: https://hashfast.com/updated-shipping-news/

    They are on schedule with everything but the MOST important piece

    And fuck the customer

    You and I pay real money for bullshit news and hope and advertising

    I know it well from communist time in Poland - yes we will deliver yes a lot and yes for everyone and yes you will be one happy Mac but only if you are dead or in the top party rank and fuck off or we will send police to take care of ye

    Enjoy the feeling it is priceless

    So, it is mid November and yes it will be anywhere in December 2020 when btc will be 1M$ per piece

    Sorry for rambling but this is my third GB and every time the honest GB organizers are fucked big time by the smart ass producers

    Cheers anyway,
    Tom

    Wow... Why don't you tell us how you really feel   ;)

    It sucks getting burned which I have by BFL and Cloudhashing to some extent... STILL WAITING ON MY SECOND JALLY BFL!!!!!! >:(


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on November 06, 2013, 09:58:47 PM
    FYI I'm voting refund.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: mrm0 on November 06, 2013, 11:07:01 PM
    FYI I'm voting refund.

    +1

    Previously I was for upgrading the rig, but unless HF show some very convincing info (as in demonstrate a fully working unit) before end of this week I vote for refund.



    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: baros008 on November 07, 2013, 07:16:57 AM
    I vote for refund, if it's possible.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on November 07, 2013, 07:36:19 AM
    Noted, thanks gents.

    Let's see what HF says/does...lots of people are waiting to hear about what's going on.

    All I know is that we paid in BTC, and if there's refunds, we deserve BTC back.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on November 07, 2013, 08:29:09 AM
    Noted, thanks gents.

    Let's see what HF says/does...lots of people are waiting to hear about what's going on.

    All I know is that we paid in BTC, and if there's refunds, we deserve BTC back.

    Well if we really get refunds in BTC it wouldn't be that bad with the recent price increases...


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on November 07, 2013, 08:43:40 AM
    Noted, thanks gents.

    Let's see what HF says/does...lots of people are waiting to hear about what's going on.

    All I know is that we paid in BTC, and if there's refunds, we deserve BTC back.

    Well if we really get refunds in BTC it wouldn't be that bad with the recent price increases...

    Well, if we do get a refund, I'd rather we get our BTC back than the equiv. value in fiat.  ;)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Tomdraug on November 09, 2013, 06:16:11 PM
    Hi

    I believe with recent increase close to 400$ we paid much less for the box and the ROI is over twice better.
    Even if I feel bad I am against the refund and I'd like to get the machine.
    Of course, if HashFast delivers in reasonable timeframe

    Cheers,
    Tom


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on November 09, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
    Hi

    I believe with recent increase close to 400$ we paid much less for the box and the ROI is over twice better.
    Even if I feel bad I am against the refund and I'd like to get the machine.
    Of course, if HashFast delivers in reasonable timeframe

    Cheers,
    Tom
    I'm with Tom.  As long as they don't pull a BFL I'd rather get the rig.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on November 11, 2013, 05:11:01 AM
    Good news everyone!  The silicon has arrived!!!

    https://hashfast.com/silicon-in-silicon-valley/


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on November 11, 2013, 08:46:08 AM
    Good news everyone!  The silicon has arrived!!!

    https://hashfast.com/silicon-in-silicon-valley/

    So does this mean we're back on track?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: mrm0 on November 11, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
    Good news everyone!  The silicon has arrived!!!

    https://hashfast.com/silicon-in-silicon-valley/

    So does this mean we're back on track?

    Not really. The big news will be, when they assemble dies into packages and demonstrate fully working chips.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on November 14, 2013, 03:41:09 PM
    Any news?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Tomdraug on November 19, 2013, 12:41:06 AM
    Any news?

    Nope, only btc 800$ soon and we got a pinup girl with wafers picture for our trouble

    https://hashfast.com/eduardo-decastro-ceo-receiving-the-wafers/

    I wonder if we get any hardware at all :(

    Cheers,
    Tom


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on November 19, 2013, 05:43:05 AM
    The waiting game.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on November 19, 2013, 11:09:55 PM
    Last I checked a few days ago on the HF thread: they were denying refunds per their ToS.

    If there is a refund, their ToS states that refunds will *not* be until after Dec. 31.

    The sentiment seems to be almost universal in R1-4 to seek a refund if it is available.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on November 21, 2013, 03:26:13 PM
    A refund (assuming we get back the same BTCs we paid) would be nice, but even if we only start mining in late December I don't see such a bad outlook, considering the price per GH is almost the same as that of R18 ($69 vs $70 for 10-15GH), which will only come in January.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on November 22, 2013, 04:18:53 AM
    As long as they can deliver I can wait. But if they can't deliver I'm going to look like my cat on a trip to the vet.  >:(


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on November 25, 2013, 09:35:45 PM
    Should we just write off this one?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: philipma1957 on November 25, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
    r1-r4  all look to be late dec at best.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on December 13, 2013, 06:07:43 AM
    https://hashfast.com/first-tests-up-and-running/
    https://hashfast.com/second-tests/

    This needed an update and a bump.

    Lookin' good Billy Ray.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on December 13, 2013, 09:56:47 AM
    https://hashfast.com/first-tests-up-and-running/
    https://hashfast.com/second-tests/

    This needed an update and a bump.

    Lookin' good Billy Ray.

    Thanks, it does look good!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: unknown.usr on December 16, 2013, 02:08:42 PM
    https://hashfast.com/first-tests-up-and-running/
    https://hashfast.com/second-tests/

    This needed an update and a bump.

    Lookin' good Billy Ray.

    Thanks, it does look good!

    Are there any delivery estimates?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on December 17, 2013, 07:16:47 PM
    Here's the latest update posted on their site today:

    https://hashfast.com/update-from-ciara/

    "They’ve started assembling Baby Jets (overnight tonight). They aim by night’s end to have the first round of assembly done for 400 Baby Jets."

    I put the emphasis on first round.

    The wording is a bit vague: does this mean 400 units should be finished by tomorrow or is it that just the first round (of several rounds) of assembly per unit is finished, with more rounds of assembly to go to get to a finished miner?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on December 18, 2013, 04:10:48 AM
    Here's the latest update posted on their site today:

    https://hashfast.com/update-from-ciara/

    "They’ve started assembling Baby Jets (overnight tonight). They aim by night’s end to have the first round of assembly done for 400 Baby Jets."

    I put the emphasis on first round.

    The wording is a bit vague: does this mean 400 units should be finished by tomorrow or is it that just the first round (of several rounds) of assembly per unit is finished, with more rounds of assembly to go to get to a finished miner?

    I don't know but it looks like this company really has their act together. The chips seem to perform very well without any hiccups, all of their work is well documented, their boards and design looks very professional. I honestly don't care if it takes them a little longer. They aren't going to pull a BFL though from what I can see.

    I am very optimistic from this point on, and I may even invest further in their technology. They have the best deals right now aside from Cointerra which also looks to be headed in a very positive direction.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: slayernine on December 19, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
    I don't know but it looks like this company really has their act together. The chips seem to perform very well without any hiccups, all of their work is well documented, their boards and design looks very professional. I honestly don't care if it takes them a little longer. They aren't going to pull a BFL though from what I can see.

    I am very optimistic from this point on, and I may even invest further in their technology. They have the best deals right now aside from Cointerra which also looks to be headed in a very positive direction.

    If they actually deliver by end of December I'll be pretty happy. Might even consider investing in more of their equipment.  I like their design, its very straight forward and they seem to have a decent cooling solution.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on December 19, 2013, 10:21:06 PM
    Unfortunately, it looks like they *may* be able to get Batch 1 Baby Jets out before the end of the year, but it's looking unlikely that Sierras will ship until January IMO.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on December 25, 2013, 06:42:53 PM
    Crossing fingers on Sierra news, but other than that: all is quiet for Sierra news although it's good that the first BJ prototype is running.  :P

    Anyhow...

    Merry Christmas everyone! If you celebrate or don't celebrate this holiday, my toast of good cheers to you and yours is still the same. I'm thankful for our customers and I'm thankful for you co-op members that have helped make this co-op the success it is today by helping us improve things over time and helping one another out with knowledge. 5 months ago I had no idea I'd form the biggest public co-op in the world for BTC mining.

    It's an honor to be the founder and co-leader of a co-op full of so many like minded miners, and I'm both humbled by our success and very thankful to have met my co-leaders, which has resulted in round after round of world class values, and a crypto umbrella company founded upon the core of the DZ MC (with the co-op shielded as a sub-company).

    Here's to a successful 2014!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on December 25, 2013, 09:44:51 PM
    Cheers! 


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on January 01, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
    http://hashfast.com/were-shipping-2013/


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: abdullahadam on January 02, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
    Hi DZ and all.  Hope everyone is feeling refreshed and enjoyed their holidays.
    Could we get an update?  DZ did you receive any tracking numbers?



    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on January 02, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
    Hi DZ and all.  Hope everyone is feeling refreshed and enjoyed their holidays.
    Could we get an update?  DZ did you receive any tracking numbers?


    These are part of B2 so until they finally get around to B1 these won't go out, we're also in the process of getting them refunded if possible.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: abdullahadam on January 02, 2014, 06:14:21 PM
    These are part of B2 so until they finally get around to B1 these won't go out, we're also in the process of getting them refunded if possible.

    Thanks for all your hard work!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on January 04, 2014, 02:16:39 AM
    So in case of getting refunds, will these be the amount of BTC paid or the equivalent in fiat at the time of payment? In the second case, we would have every reason to be really pissed off.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: philipma1957 on January 04, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
    So in case of getting refunds, will these be the amount of BTC paid or the equivalent in fiat at the time of payment? In the second case, we would have every reason to be really pissed off.

    My thoughts are they will skip and we get zip.

     I have 1 share of r1 My losses will be about 200 usd.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on January 04, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
    If they're starting to ship, why are we looking for refunds? Is there something I'm not clear on here?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on January 04, 2014, 08:44:28 PM
    If they're starting to ship, why are we looking for refunds? Is there something I'm not clear on here?
    They shipped 1 developer version for bfgminer support, they are also a month past their they will be shipped by date and about to be 2 months from their expected ship date, they have also lied multiple times.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on January 05, 2014, 08:40:20 AM
    If they're starting to ship, why are we looking for refunds? Is there something I'm not clear on here?
    They shipped 1 developer version for bfgminer support, they are also a month past their they will be shipped by date and about to be 2 months from their expected ship date, they have also lied multiple times.

    I see. Well blah. Not really depressed about the whole deal, just disappointed.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: philipma1957 on January 05, 2014, 02:44:29 PM
    If they're starting to ship, why are we looking for refunds? Is there something I'm not clear on here?
    read up on the company named BFL  a hated company that was guilty of huge delays in shipping.  this hash fast company is acting exactly like BFL did.   basically the best we could hope for  is a fast usd /fiat refund.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on January 05, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
    If they're starting to ship, why are we looking for refunds? Is there something I'm not clear on here?
    read up on the company named BFL  a hated company that was guilty of huge delays in shipping.  this hash fast company is acting exactly like BFL did.   basically the best we could hope for  is a fast usd /fiat refund.

    I'm quite familiar with BFL. I recently received two miners from them I ordered 5 months ago.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: philipma1957 on January 06, 2014, 12:21:32 AM
    If they're starting to ship, why are we looking for refunds? Is there something I'm not clear on here?
    read up on the company named BFL  a hated company that was guilty of huge delays in shipping.  this hash fast company is acting exactly like BFL did.   basically the best we could hope for  is a fast usd /fiat refund.

    I'm quite familiar with BFL. I recently received two miners from them I ordered 5 months ago.

    yeah i figure these will take more then 5 months to show. a refund and put the money into r 17 is my hope.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on January 08, 2014, 04:57:25 AM
    You making any headway on the refund? Sounds like a lot of people are having problems with getting hashfast to respond. 


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: firsttimeuser on January 12, 2014, 04:57:02 AM
    https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on January 12, 2014, 05:06:44 AM
    https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL
    I take it that's the HF wallet?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: firsttimeuser on January 12, 2014, 05:30:58 AM
    https://blockchain.info/address/16N9on4bha4ehXHh4NsTQngPcn8TSGcwWL
    I take it that's the HF wallet?
    this one one theirs as well https://blockchain.info/address/1KFrqkEGy6Yq7X4SYCbYoj8HEwfbWVUDJ9


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on January 15, 2014, 12:08:47 AM
    UPDATE for R3 and R4: They're forcing USD refunds on people that didn't request them if you missed that in the CH forum yesterday. If this is forced on us, we are *not* cashing this refund check worth about 1/8th of our orig. BTC sent for R1-4, and will consult with our legal team.

    It was a major PITA to get all the evidence in place, and in chronological order for our attorneys but HashFast heard from our attorneys yesterday and we have an official support ticket in the system, FWIW. It's also been a drain on the co-op's energy to have to fight this in the middle of the move/expansion.

    We're doing our best to get full BTC refunds for everyone that bought into R1-4 with Bitcoin (except for R2, which was orig. bought via Wire Transfer by someone else so it will be in USD; the upgrade R2B was paid in BTC).

    To fight to get this full BTC refunds for us and to make sure we were represented by a battle tested legal team, we plan on deducting the legal costs among the 4 rounds. We estimate this cost to be about $250-300 at this time (could go up if we go to arbitration).

    That would work out to about $2.50-$3 per R1-4 share (which includes upgrades for R1-2). The upside is: for those that bought GB shares with bitcoin, if we get our full BTC back from HashFast, even with this small deduction for legal expenses you'd be refunded 6-9x your USD value back from your original BTC purchase amount(s) depending on when you bought your GB shares.

    If you paid in USD, these refund terms and legal fees don't apply, and we will send back the original USD amount(s) sent when our full refund arrives.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on January 15, 2014, 12:25:34 AM
    UPDATE for R3 and R4: They're forcing USD refunds on people that didn't request them if you missed that in the CH forum yesterday. If this is forced on us, we are *not* cashing this refund check worth about 1/8th of our orig. BTC sent for R1-4, and will consult with our legal team.

    It was a major PITA to get all the evidence in place, and in chronological order for our attorneys but HashFast heard from our attorneys yesterday and we have an official support ticket in the system, FWIW. It's also been a drain on the co-op's energy to have to fight this in the middle of the move/expansion.

    We're doing our best to get full BTC refunds for everyone that bought into R1-4 with Bitcoin (except for R2, which was orig. bought via Wire Transfer by someone else so it will be in USD; the upgrade R2B was paid in BTC).

    To fight to get this full BTC refunds for us and to make sure we were represented by a battle tested legal team, we plan on deducting the legal costs among the 4 rounds. We estimate this cost to be about $250-300 at this time (could go up if we go to arbitration).

    That would work out to about $2.50-$3 per R1-4 share (which includes upgrades for R1-2). The upside is: for those that bought GB shares with bitcoin, if we get our full BTC back from HashFast, even with this small deduction for legal expenses you'd be refunded 6-9x your USD value back from your original BTC purchase amount(s) depending on when you bought your GB shares.

    If you paid in USD, these refund terms and legal fees don't apply, and we will send back the original USD amount(s) sent when our full refund arrives.

    Thanks for the update. Apparently someone has already been successful obtaining a sentence for a BTC refund from BFL (although BFL hasn’t paid it yet).

    http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u4v0o/i_sued_bfl_in_kansas_jurisdiction_and_won


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on January 15, 2014, 12:36:49 AM
    Thanks for all your hard work guys.  Making sure these hardware companies are held liable for things like this is important for the future of mining.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on January 22, 2014, 02:59:18 AM
    Have we heard anything from HF?

    Looks like they might be shipping.

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425019.0


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on January 25, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
    Any news?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on January 27, 2014, 05:11:36 AM
    Looks like batch one is shipping

    http://hashfast.com/shipping-update-batch-1_jan23/



    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on January 28, 2014, 11:57:07 PM
    DZ, did you get any notification about shipping?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: jungle_dave on January 31, 2014, 02:23:06 AM
    DZ, did you get any notification about shipping?

    The new company has decided that even if HF ships they will hold out for a full BTC refund,

    Everyone in R1-r2 is screwed on the baby jets that are shipping (not for us) albeit late but some people will get a full btc refund if they are successful with there legal process.

    Im sure you are all ok with this right? ???



    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: slayernine on January 31, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
    I'm not in a rush, if waiting will help get a BTC refund. So be it.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on January 31, 2014, 06:44:54 PM
    DZ, did you get any notification about shipping?

    The new company has decided that even if HF ships they will hold out for a full BTC refund,

    Everyone in R1-r2 is screwed on the baby jets that are shipping (not for us) albeit late but some people will get a full btc refund if they are successful with there legal process.

    Im sure you are all ok with this right? ???



    Yes that's fine with me, I was just asking  :)

    Good luck with the legal process


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: jungle_dave on January 31, 2014, 09:17:20 PM
    Im not involved,

    If anyone wants my r1-r2 shares let me know, Ill take cash value.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on February 10, 2014, 01:26:54 AM
    Any news on the HF front?  I know you guys are busy with R17 but don't forget us.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: philipma1957 on February 10, 2014, 02:44:34 AM
    good point I have a share in round 1


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on February 12, 2014, 01:20:29 AM
    Let's see: since the last post in a R1-4 thread.

    - Zero updates to our "Customer Support Ticket" sent in early January demanding a full BTC and USD refund for R1-4 via a paralegal, where appropriate.
    - Litigation against HF was filed in Texas.
    - We're meeting w/ the attorneys to go over this litigation this week.
    - The January bill came in and it was ugly.
    - Claims of damages seem to make sense as we all have had lost opportunity costs due to their deceptive advertising and outright fraudulent behavior (FTC regs. state that if product is delayed you *must* give the customer the opportunity for a full refund.) No promises on this but I'm firm that if damages are awarded that all would share in this (minus atty. fees) based on their percentage of ownership of that round's miners.
    - Also, I can confirm that one of the D&L attorneys received an inquiry from a community rep re: legal precedents in cases like this.

    That's about it...oh and a passive aggressive email from HF a little while back finally confirming payment on one of the R1-2B upgrades paid months ago with a bolded msg. at the bottom saying something to the effect of: "ALL SALES FINALS. NO REFUNDS."

    I, for one, would've never gotten involved with HF GBs without the Full BTC refunds promised publicly by both Simon Barber and Cara, after supposedly checking with the bosses.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on February 12, 2014, 02:40:50 AM
    Let's see: since the last post in a R1-4 thread.

    - Zero updates to our "Customer Support Ticket" sent in early January demanding a full BTC and USD refund for R1-4 via a paralegal, where appropriate.
    - Litigation against HF was filed in Texas.
    - We're meeting w/ the attorneys to go over this litigation this week.
    - The January bill came in and it was ugly.
    - Claims of damages seem to make sense as we all have had lost opportunity costs due to their deceptive advertising and outright fraudulent behavior (FTC regs. state that if product is delayed you *must* give the customer the opportunity for a full refund.) No promises on this but I'm firm that if damages are awarded that all would share in this (minus atty. fees) based on their percentage of ownership of that round's miners.
    - Also, I can confirm that one of the D&L attorneys received an inquiry from a community rep re: legal precedents in cases like this.

    That's about it...oh and a passive aggressive email from HF a little while back finally confirming payment on one of the R1-2B upgrades paid months ago with a bolded msg. at the bottom saying something to the effect of: "ALL SALES FINALS. NO REFUNDS."

    I, for one, would've never gotten involved with HF GBs without the Full BTC refunds promised publicly by both Simon Barber and Cara, after supposedly checking with the bosses.

    Thanks for the update.  Even if there isn't any real news it's reassuring to get updates from time to time.  Let us know how it goes with the lawyers.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on February 24, 2014, 11:12:53 PM
    It's been a couple weeks since we got an update.  Anything new happening?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on March 04, 2014, 10:13:59 PM
    I know the law moves slowly, so how's your day DZ?

    :)


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Bakal on March 12, 2014, 06:14:37 AM
    Hi ! any updates on hashf'kd?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: tripppn on March 16, 2014, 01:47:44 AM
    It's been over a month DZ.  Any news whatsoever?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: firsttimeuser on March 16, 2014, 02:40:09 AM
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140437


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on March 16, 2014, 03:12:47 AM
    It's been over a month DZ.  Any news whatsoever?
    Still on track.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on March 28, 2014, 08:11:10 AM
    Hi guys,

    Haven't run off with the money (there still is no money or BTC from our HF refund). I'd never do that. Just super bummed from all the negativity, the trolling, the bickering, manufacturers failing us over and over, and me working 7 days a week for months doing this as a second job for peanuts (actually negative not-so peanuts). I just got so sick of it esp. since I was working for less than free and couldn't take it any more.

    This was an experiment in democracy in mining and trying to deal with the inevitable network difficulty rise but I/we've surrendered the pre-order GB market when we used to offer many of the best pre-order deals around because most of these manufacturers can't meet their deadlines. Others can deal with high risk pre-orders but I'm done with pre-orders from ASIC mfgs.

    I've been exploring other job options while trying to cram for a particular Microsoft cert for a job I'm trying to get. I've cut back my forum presence but I'm still looking at opportunities in the cryptoeconomy.

    WRT case news: these things take time but the Texas court granted a TRO against HF for about 218 BTC so regardless of how the case turns out they've been ordered to hold onto BTC of this amount till the end of the case.

    BTW, from the email leak thread going on over email: even people that have asked for USD refunds from HF have had to wait for over a month in some cases.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thomas_s on March 28, 2014, 07:31:54 PM
    Hi guys,

    Haven't run off with the money (there still is no money or BTC from our HF refund). I'd never do that. Just super bummed from all the negativity, the trolling, the bickering, manufacturers failing us over and over, and me working 7 days a week for months doing this as a second job for peanuts (actually negative not-so peanuts). I just got so sick of it esp. since I was working for less than free and couldn't take it any more.

    This was an experiment in democracy in mining and trying to deal with the inevitable network difficulty rise but I/we've surrendered the pre-order GB market when we used to offer many of the best pre-order deals around because most of these manufacturers can't meet their deadlines. Others can deal with high risk pre-orders but I'm done with pre-orders from ASIC mfgs.

    I've been exploring other job options while trying to cram for a particular Microsoft cert for a job I'm trying to get. I've cut back my forum presence but I'm still looking at opportunities in the cryptoeconomy.

    WRT case news: these things take time but the Texas court granted a TRO against HF for about 218 BTC so regardless of how the case turns out they've been ordered to hold onto BTC of this amount till the end of the case.

    BTW, from the email leak thread going on over email: even people that have asked for USD refunds from HF have had to wait for over a month in some cases.
    http://imgur.com/a/OLbc8#0


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on March 28, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
    Hi guys,

    Haven't run off with the money (there still is no money or BTC from our HF refund). I'd never do that. Just super bummed from all the negativity, the trolling, the bickering, manufacturers failing us over and over, and me working 7 days a week for months doing this as a second job for peanuts (actually negative not-so peanuts). I just got so sick of it esp. since I was working for less than free and couldn't take it any more.

    This was an experiment in democracy in mining and trying to deal with the inevitable network difficulty rise but I/we've surrendered the pre-order GB market when we used to offer many of the best pre-order deals around because most of these manufacturers can't meet their deadlines. Others can deal with high risk pre-orders but I'm done with pre-orders from ASIC mfgs.

    I've been exploring other job options while trying to cram for a particular Microsoft cert for a job I'm trying to get. I've cut back my forum presence but I'm still looking at opportunities in the cryptoeconomy.

    WRT case news: these things take time but the Texas court granted a TRO against HF for about 218 BTC so regardless of how the case turns out they've been ordered to hold onto BTC of this amount till the end of the case.

    BTW, from the email leak thread going on over email: even people that have asked for USD refunds from HF have had to wait for over a month in some cases.

    That's good news IMO. Thanks for keeping up with this and good luck with your job search!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: Miramyn on March 31, 2014, 04:31:14 PM
    http://hashfast.com/tro-response-from-hashfast/

    So their move is to deny that an order was placed?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on April 01, 2014, 06:27:36 AM
    An official response from our attorney:

    "Redacted"


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on April 01, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
    Basically: that was spin and mayhaps some desperation from HF to not have a precedent set. We are asking for damages as is normal in cases like this.

    ==

    Also: I want to publicly apologize for going MIA. I'm very sorry if you were caught in the crossfire. I owe you guys a longer explanation.

    What you guys may not have known is that one persistent stalker troll w/ a so-called "Hero" membership IIRC managed to drag *my kids* into our ongoing Internet argument in an argument spanning weeks and even multiple threads. My last communication to him was weeks ago after he crossed a line in a Scam Accusation thread. I'm not comfortable engaging in a community - where a stalker/troll (without proof, no less) can engage in behavior that would get you punched in the face IRL - and can get away with it behind the anonymity of the internet.

    I was disgusted by this behavior, that a veteran Bitcoin miner/investor would stoop to such levels in an attempt to attempt to besmirch my reputation and the co-op's integrity, while cowardly hiding behind his anonymity...while trying his very, very best to find out my real life name/ID. This, while showing no hesitation at trying to turn a harmless statement made about my daughter playing as a noob PC gamer as a 3 year old on Halo PC into something that somehow brought into question my long history of sales...yes, fucking Creepy Behavior with a capital C & B. This member has a record of digging deep to try to find dirt, oftentimes where there's no smoke, nor fire.

    Perhaps, if you're a father, you would understand my disgust and aversion with anything having to do with this place after that. I couldn't even *think* of logging in I was so disgusted and angry. I'm sorry, if your PM is in the big backlog that's in there.

    In the course of sales, I'm used to defending the co-op's integrity against all comers, but when this stalker/troll brought my kids into it, he crossed that line: this is something that as a Parent, awakens something Primal and angry within me. (FWIW: You must really, really suck at arguing if you have to bring a stranger's kid into your meaningless Internet argument)

    I would do anything for my kids, and like the average parent, sacrifice a lot for my kids. I recognize that most people are regular, nice people, but the forum doesn't have a method to really punish a stalker troll that would do something so execrable and I do acknowledge the fact that there are sociopaths and psychopaths that revel in destruction (and some of them may be stalker/trolls). This was the final straw for me.

    Why should I pay for abuse when I'm not a masochist? Why should I put my kids at risk if there's even a remote chance - if not this stalker/troll then another one, could find me and actually come to my house unannounced and possibly unhinged (even if they never even bought anything from me/us)?

    Our time here is limited. Be nice to one another. Be less quick to throw unfounded accusations. This is *still* the *only* mining co-op that has raised hundreds of dollars of funds on behalf of others, and I'm proud of how co-op members have been quick to help one another.

    So again: sorry, but please refer questions to Thomas for now. Perhaps one day I'll open up another GB here but I'm pretty much scarred and sickened by the whole matter, and a still a bit pissed off. Life is just way too short to have to engage in eternal Internet Flame Wars with the possibly unhinged on one side, and nearly every ASIC manufacturers on the other side, failing to meet yet another deadline.

    For now, at this point in time: I'm taking a long hiatus from future GBs but will be closing out these GBs along with Thomas, -Redacted-, and bobsag3. Perhaps, I'll return to sales or even escrow here one day, but for now, as a human, and a father, I'm still working through some things.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: unknown.usr on April 01, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
    It's a shame, because some of our group buys went without a hitch.  I was looking forward to the momentum.  Alas, there are a lot of disreputable people out there and they stain the reputations of every one "in the business", even the ones who are on the up and up.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on April 10, 2014, 04:01:55 AM
    It's a shame, because some of our group buys went without a hitch.  I was looking forward to the momentum.  Alas, there are a lot of disreputable people out there and they stain the reputations of every one "in the business", even the ones who are on the up and up.

    Thanks unknown. That's exactly what we were hoping/striving for: hassle free fair GBs that didn't gouge miners. It works well when manufacturers aren't too late.

    I just got plain tired of dealing with trolls and some of the bickering within the co-op too, in addition to all the mfg. delays from so many different companies.

    In case news: no court this week, looks like it was delayed for some reason but nothing has changed as far as the case we have against them.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on May 04, 2014, 04:42:39 AM
    I'm calling it.

    It's a shame all of my purchases through DZ turned out to be a loss. Not DZ's fault, it just sucks. Not the only group buy I've put money into that's turned out garbage, probably won't be the last.

    If any funds are recovered I'm still interested, but I'm not holding my breath.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on May 25, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
    People in this ActM thread are talking about the HF court case:

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.3440

    How do you see what's going on? Is it good or bad for us?


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on June 04, 2014, 03:32:37 AM
    People in this ActM thread are talking about the HF court case:

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.3440

    How do you see what's going on? Is it good or bad for us?

    Is that DZ's court case or a different one? I can't tell what's going on except not much is being said.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: thehun on June 05, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
    People in this ActM thread are talking about the HF court case:

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.3440

    How do you see what's going on? Is it good or bad for us?

    Is that DZ's court case or a different one? I can't tell what's going on except not much is being said.

    It's a different case, has to do with the insolvency of HF as far as I can see, which would also affect us.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: amer on June 08, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
    Hi thomas_s,

    Do you have any updates on our situation since April (even confirmation of no new updates)? Thanks!


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: DyslexicZombei on June 18, 2014, 02:15:58 AM
    The latest is the Notice of Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Case, Meeting of Creditors, & Deadlines letter from the US Bankruptcy Court was just received. We dropped the TRO to proceed in CA.

    We're going to be an official creditor in this case. Your guess is as good as mine as to what we're going to get out of this. We may be lucky to see 50 cents on the dollar let alone a full BTC refund if the situation's as bad as it looks.

    In case you missed the article: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-manufacturer-hashfast-enters-chapter-11-bankruptcy/


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: corather on June 20, 2014, 08:20:53 AM
    The latest is the Notice of Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Case, Meeting of Creditors, & Deadlines letter from the US Bankruptcy Court was just received. We dropped the TRO to proceed in CA.

    We're going to be an official creditor in this case. Your guess is as good as mine as to what we're going to get out of this. We may be lucky to see 50 cents on the dollar let alone a full BTC refund if the situation's as bad as it looks.

    In case you missed the article: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-manufacturer-hashfast-enters-chapter-11-bankruptcy/

    If they can work themselves out of insolvency there's a chance to recover funds.


    Title: Re: [CLOSED]R3/R4: Extended HF FLASH SALE PRICING! 2 HF Sierras, At-Cost+Host, PAID
    Post by: jungle_dave on July 11, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
    The latest is the Notice of Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Case, Meeting of Creditors, & Deadlines letter from the US Bankruptcy Court was just received. We dropped the TRO to proceed in CA.

    We're going to be an official creditor in this case. Your guess is as good as mine as to what we're going to get out of this. We may be lucky to see 50 cents on the dollar let alone a full BTC refund if the situation's as bad as it looks.

    In case you missed the article: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-manufacturer-hashfast-enters-chapter-11-bankruptcy/

    If they can work themselves out of insolvency there's a chance to recover funds.

    Don't hold your breath