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I randomly saw this too. I check the power tab in newegg and the 5970 was on the list(it never is) so I checked and it was on sale. I've never actually heard of newegg selling these at least since I got active in bitcoins around June.

it's OEM so no accesories or warranty.

at this price you could sell for a small profit on ebay or just wait 10 years till it pays it self off

Wow, where in the world did they get these? Crazy.

This is by far the best high density buy you can find. I wish I wasn't electrically capped or I'd be all over this like white on rice, or something. EBay isn't a great idea though, what with the giant sell fees and all. You'd need to sell for around $600 to break even, which may or may not happen.

I would like to buy a few but newegg don't ship to Australia.

^Just bought 2 for that reason considering my PSU can only handle 1.Will likely sell one if the price is right.

It's obvious the card's costs can be made up very quickly as it is the king of mining.Can't wait to see what it can do with the new GUI miner update and Phatk 2.2 when I get mine.

Ya that's an awesome price....but no warranty =(

It's driving me bonkers... my current rig has 2x 6870's ... i'd so love to swap them out for 2x 5970s but new egg don't ship to Australia.

I'm a call out computer tech and I e-mailed my supplier and included the link to newegg and asked if they can get these cards and they replied back saying "thanks for asking but sorry these are EOL already please look at the 6990 or similar" but those are always out of stock too... and the 5970's use so much less power...

Nice! Thanks for the post. Donation is coming your way. Just picked up 8 of these bad boys!

Thats a big investment for no warranty 0.o I hope they all work well and don't die on you shortly after the 30 days.

OMG OMG OMG this is my favorite card!!  I just bought one, thanks gopher!

Payoff on this card is around 178 days -- expect to earn around $3/day.

Let's all hope Bitcoin is around and profitable for 6 more months...

178 days is FAST. I was looking at a payoff on my Core i7 of something like 23 years.  Glad I kept mining (well, for a while anyway).

wait, people are still buying GPUs for mining?

Thanks for calculating that for me.

I'm not saying this is a good card or a bad card but its more like 4 dollars a day at 15c a kwh. If things stay the same (which I know probably won't) that's 125 days.

For people with low electricty costs lets say 8c a kwh that's around 4.50 a day or 111 days to pay off.

But that's just for the card. You still need a PC to power it.
And 178 days is only for those with 8.8c per kW/h electricity. Your mileage may vary.

As I've said before, 6 months is a long time. A very long time. Especially in Bitcoin years. Bitcoin has only been around for 2 years, even for Satoshi and his friends! Nevermind most of us, who have only been doing this for 3 months. Think about it -- Bitcoin was 170K difficulty just a few months ago. Now it's 1.8 million.  Where will it be in 6 months? It could be anywhere. We could enter the next phase of adoption, when tons of gamers decide to go for it and difficulty could double.

I'm also not convinced the 5970 would have a good resale value considering it costs $500.00. It would have a great resale value among *miners*, but if I'm selling it, it's because Bitcoin mining is no longer worth it, so...

We won't go into what kind of a decision buying a Core i7 just for mining would be...
(You could have at least 2 good 58XX cards for $300!)

I have a spreadsheet that I use for my own cards, and when looking at new cards.

Yes, and with what seems like a new block chain being introduced every week, it's not hard to have a new card paid off in less than a week.  In some cases a few hours.  In fact I bought this 5970 out of profits I made off of 8 HOURS worth of mining Ixcoins :)  178 days my ass! :P

I guess I could put my money in the stock market or under the mattress but Bitcoin mining is more fun though ;)

Me thinks he exaggerates a bit.

"In stock. Limit 2 per customer."

Oh I know what you mean bitcoins is my hobby and Ive invest a fair amount into it. I just would be scared to take that big of a risk. As you buy more the chances of one going bad are quite good.

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I'm not sure how closely newegg watches but he could use multiple accounts with out them knowing right?

Lol.

Newegg could cross check the information with shipping and credit card details to limit their stock hence why I only bought two.Definitely expecting this to ship out today considering how good their past performance was with my prior orders and make up the profits quicker with the surging Solidcoin,lol.

Naw - 4 orders is easy.. ship one to each of:

- home
- office
- parents house
- in laws house
- friends' house(s)
- cousins' house(s)

I've used all of the above except cousins (none local).  The egg only catches on if you use the same cc on the orders.

Haha... I will explain the trick. Newegg.com really has two sites with the same inventory.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105001&Tpk=radeon%205970
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105001&Tpk=radeon%205970

I bought 4 and called up a buddy who bought 4 for me.

BTW, they are now sold out. I guess a couple other people had the same idea i did.  ;D

OOS :(

Damn I was just considering swapping out some of my existing cards for one of these, as I've wanted one for a while, but so it goes. NewEgg rapes me with tax anyway  >:(

Thank goodness. It was seriously taxing resisting the purchase of these.

Was thinking of swapping out the 6970s that I *just* got for these (my PSU and rest of the system could have handled it). But it was hard to justify $500/card (in essence $250/5870) when I could get 5870s for $200 and the 6970s I had just bought for $225 apiece.

Heh, this is probably why the price of btc dropped on Gox today....everybody selling coins to cover their orders for 5970s ;)

Ah,that explains it.

I also checked for codes and got an extra 10 bucks off so shipping was also free.........looks like the order shipped within the last hour as well.

Mine shows as "shipped" as well, but no tracking # yet.  Does anybody know where these are shipping from?

I don't know about you guys...

but when the price of BTC drops $2 in one day, the first thing I want to do is sink $500 on another mining card (or $4,000 on 8 of them).

...or maybe not.

I was going to argue with you and realized it would be stupid. Also I'm sure you ignored my post earlier but just in case you missed it you were wrong in this thread earlier about roi and this isn't the first time I've corrected you.

they are also here:

http://www.amazon.com/ATI-Express-2560x1600-Display-102C0000300/dp/B005ISV72Y/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1314314449&sr=8-15

and here:

https://www.circuitsnthings.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=yagendoo_VaMazing_2.tpl&category_id=850&product_id=105192&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=110

but more expensive.

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I'm not sure about the second link... they only take checks? wtf... i don't trust that...

No way would I buy that card with only a 30 day warranty.

I would.  my credit card extends any warranty by 1 yr.

5970 has only one fan for 2 GPU core so it runs hotter, the frequency and voltage is much lower than 5870, and it is difficult to raise the voltage without modify the bios

touche! so you get 1 year and 30 days. That does help but I am definitely not clear on how american express,
for example, would treat an OEM vid card with a 30 day warranty. It is not a normal purchase I would be confident about.
You know.. the fine print and all.

and has one of the highest failure rates for radeon cards. i had a gpu go bad in mine and sent it back for a refund. thank goodness
for a liberal return policy. that is pretty much why i am gun shy of that card. I really wanted to go with it but decided cheap 5830s,
used btw, were the best bang for the buck.

not a problem... just save the receipt.  don't ask me why, they allready have the purchase record on the credit card.
i'm pretty sure they just have some kind of insurance policy for this.  the cost is passed on to us anyway (higher interest, other fees etc... etc...).
makes for a good marketing ploy since most people couldn't find that receipt...

Has anybody received a tracking number yet?  I think my F5 key is about to wear out.

calm down!!!! i've never had an issue on newegg...
if it says shipped, it's picked, packed and waiting for UPS to pickup and scan the code in.

*Looks at solidcoin*

The other white meat,lol.

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vvvvv  Usually,what I find is that they give you the tracking number when it is halfway to the address they have on file.Their ability on charging you and getting the product out obviously seems to outpace their tracking dept.It's been like that for me over the last 4 years.

*twitch*

Looks like they are shipping out of NJ. Every order I have made with newegg.com and neweggbusiness.com has come through.

Good thing I'm spending my money and not yours. Maybe I'll make a video rendering farm since you seem to think that it's all going tits up soon.

Apparently ya'll never heard of SquareTrade...

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3820/35028282.jpg


$90 for a 3 year parts & labor warranty on a card I intend on beating like a rented mule isn't too bad ;)

BALDWIN PARK, CA, US

Oh yeah that's right!  The last 5870 I got off NewEgg (during that last $190 batch that came out) shipped from there as well and it only took like 1 day to get here!!

Where do you get free shipping code for newegg? Thanks.

It wasn't a free shipping code though.I just created a new account to use the "NEWCUSTOMER10" code to get $10 off my whole order.Shipping was ~$9.65 I believe therefore didn't have to pay for it.

It expires (http://www.retailmenot.com/view/newegg.com) Aug 31st I believe.

Back in stock!!! GO GO GO ;)

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4313/30713922.png

picked up a couple. :)

shows 20+ available.

Impressive find. Still in stock. Thanks.

Damn, I wish I could get my money out of Solidcoins fast enough to pick up another one! 

Check this out http://www.unityelectronics.com/products/6475/ATI_Radeon_HD_5970_PCI_E_PCI_Express_x16_2GB_GDDR5_2560x1600_Video_Card_Dual_DVI_Mini_Display_Port_102C0000300_New .
Looks like the same card, but with some extra goodies for the same price

DVI-to-HDMI Adapter (with Audio, p/n 6140063501G)
CrossFire Bridge (p/n 6110024000G)
Mini Display Port -to- Display Port Cable (p/n 6110028300G)

You're making hundreds of dollars in Solidcoins?

Same question, You're making hundreds of dollars in Solidcoins??

My thoughts exactly, You're making hundreds of dollars in Solidcoins???

God, back in stock? :(


 :'(

Re: solidcoins, I'm making hundreds of dollars in solid coins.

I put in the order, then cancelled it. Not really worth it as I can't be sure what's the final bitcoin price will be stable at.

Hundreds of dollars? That seems a bit hard to believe. You have what, 4 or 5 GH/s?  You've said several times you're limited by electricity.
I assume that's not "per day" -- what are we talking about, 200% over normal BTC mining? 500%?

If it's very much, it can't last long or everyone'll be doing it.

"Solidcoin" is just another scam. And in exchange for the possible 300% mining returns, you have a chance of getting 30% of what you would have made mining BTC.

I just transfer them directly to the exchange and get bitcoins. I don't hold on to any of these coins. So the mining returns for me are much higher than mining bitcoins. I've made a little over $100 in 2 days mining solidcoins (14 bitcoins). I would've made about 3 bitcoins mining bitcion directly in the same time period.  

If you're buying mining hardware still it must be for the *Other* coins. Bitcoin really isn't worth it anymore.

Mining Solidcoins, sure.  But the bulk of my SC earnings come from trading.  Buy low, sell high etc.  If you bought 10 BTC worth of Solidcoins 3 days ago, they'd be worth about 50 BTC now, more or less.

Higher risk has higher potential reward. It could've just crashed down like i0, but then again it could also skyrocket to 0.10btc per.

Tell me about it.  I'm not saying I make perfect buy-at-the-bottom-sell-at-the-top trades.  In fact I've actually lost out on huge opportunities by getting greedy and waiting for the price to go higher.  But if you throw enough BTC into either SC or IxC right now (or at least earlier this morning), it's almost impossible to NOT make 2-3x your money back.

So IOcoin crashed pretty bad (delivering a smaller "bang" to the group of profit-chasing miners compared to, say, IXcoin 1 week previous) but SolidCoin somehow fared better -- somewhere in between the two? Better than IXcoin?

That's odd -- usually any pattern is less prominent the next "go-round" -- this is true with many things in nature, including markets.
As it applies to *coin blockchains, it means that each one will have a diminishing return, as more people get wise quicker -- cashing out, that is.

So you're saying SolidCoin bucked this trend? If so, why? I'd like to know what's so special about it.

The fact that this is still in stock, after some people bought 8 of them, is probably not a good thing. Now more hashing power will be added to the network and you know what to expect from a difficulty change...

third time's the charm...

I guess the only thing I have heard is that SC actually has a programmer behind it that can do more then just make simple
changes in code. Otherwise I am not feeling any other good reason. Plus the ironic thing is that it requires BTC to function
when it comes to exchanges so far. BTC sucks the website is basically trying to say but everyone is selling SC for BTC.
go fricking figure.

A thought crossed my mind.. is that what if these are refurb cards that the factory repaired and now calling them brand new?
Are they allowed to do such a thing? I honestly thought they stopped making these things.

I spoke with them on the phone, its a company in SF Bay Area. Apparently some system manufacturer was going to build a bunch of custom gaming machines and their order fell through so they didnt end up using the cards. Cards are brand new. I ordered 4, will post pics when I get mine.

Yeah I'm chillin on 5GHash/sec, but SC has difficulty raising limitations, meaning even that hash power yielded significant coinage for long time (even now though it is petering out) and the price went up about 30x in a few days, contributing to out of the ordinary gains, not to mention investment in the coin yielded high returns. Now that BTC took a dump in the toilet though it's not "hundreds of dollars" "per day" or every couple of days, since the exchange is to BTC, but that's ok, I have faith in the bit to come back eventually.

SC hash rate went up and exchange rate has gone down, so whether it has "bucked the trend" or not remains to be seen.

Now that's what I'm talking about! Mine for 5 min and make 200 BTC lol.

None of this 100-200 days of bitcoin mining.

Yeah that's crazy!  I wasn't quite that lucky (only made a total of about 68 BTC IIRC), but yeah there was a huge rush.  I suspect we'll see a second wave once Ixcoins hits block 20055 and the 400%/10% algorithm kicks in.  If that's the case, then Ixcoin valuation should be roughly 1/3rd that of Solidcoin (96 vs. 32 coins per block reward) so if Solidcoins are trading in the mid .02XXXXX range, then Ixcoins should (in theory anyway) start trading around .008XXX once it hits block 20055.  There's still a lot of room to turn a profit since Ixcoins are going for .003XXX right now.  /Speculation hat off.

That sounds great, except it's too good to be true.

That's a recipe for hyperinflation. I thought BTC were limited in production so hyperinflation wouldn't occur?

Apparently creating new blockchains is a workaround for this limitation -- a limitation which was put there for the stability of Bitcoin.

That 200 BTC * $8.00 *had* to come from somewhere -- maybe partially from me, when I sell my 10 BTC for $85 instead of $115? It's gotta be. For every extra dollar gained *someone* is losing a dollar.

I don't think many people understand this whole *coin universe is a closed system. 100% closed. As in, only so much money sloshing around.

John, Mike, Frank, Sally, Alice, and Tom are playing "economy" with seashells and buttons. There are only so many of either, so the economy is stable. They trade them in exchange for US Dollars, too. Sure, once in a while one of the kids begs his/her mom for a few bucks of their next allowance...but basically there is only $5 from each kid in "the system" sloshing around. One person's windfall is another person's wipeout. And if Tom starts another currency, "Acorns" and starts trading them for buttons/seashells, it's bound to bring down the value of the existing 2 currencies. Sure, once in a while one of the 5 kids might convince their parents to give them a buck or two, but that would be pretty rare. The fact is that only $25 is sloshing around the kids' "economy", which would have to be the total value of the various "currencies" they're trading. Now what if the seashells and buttons were limited, but the acorns weren't? In other words, the value of their existing currency(ies) were stable, but then a second or third currency comes along, and causes the value of the STABLE currency to drop, because demand is divided up.

I think the key point here is: Even if the quantity of Seashells is carefully monitored to prevent hyperinflation, the introduction of a second currency (Acorns) can cause hyperinflation IF two conditions are met: A) the citizens use both currencies, B) the price of Acorns is pegged to Seashells

Zimbabwe experienced hyperinflation, but it didn't affect us here in the US, because no one here uses Zim dollars. Moreover, we don't peg the dollar's value to "how many Zim dollars" it's worth. The same can't be said for Bitcoin and other *coins. The latter are easily traded for BTC, BY THE SAME SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

Anyone holding their wealth (or a portion of it) today in "solidcoins" or "IXcoins" means that much less demand for BTC. No wonder BTC is $8.50 instead of $11.50 like last week.

so, what's up with these cards?  they are still in stock at several vendors.  Did AMD just make a boatload of these?

i heard a rumor that some PC gaming rig company ordered them but it all fell through.
so they sold them to other companies.. and thus a ton on the market.

i also think 5970s at 500 dollars each is not a great deal for btc mining and thus no rush to grab
them.

I just got mine and was a little shocked at how small the box was that it came in.  At first I was like "there's no way this is a 5970, the box is way too small.  They must have shipped me something else."  So I was kind of panicking while opening the box!  But sure enough it was a brand spankin new OEM HD 5970 shoehorned diagonally into the small cardboard box.  Apparently it was fit so tight that the mounting bracket was bent on the top and bottom.  No biggie since I can just bend it back, but it's something you might want to know about if you're thinking of getting one.  It came with a CrossFire cable, DVI plug, and Mini Displayport adapter too.  I'm a little disappointed in the packaging and now I'm a little scared to actually try it out!

No molex>Pcie adapters included?

None :(  But then again it's an OEM kit so I didn't expect any.

Let us know how it goes. Been on and off the fence about 50 times in the last 4 days so would like to hear how it's running

You forget that there is an infinite amount of fiat money out there that can come into bitcoin and these other currencies.

Yes the money I gained came from someone. that's the risk.

Ok the 5970 seems to work fine.  At stock clock 725MHz (300 memory) it's doing 320 MH/s.  Time to turn up heat and see what this thing will do (ha famous last words!)

don't be scared! try it, you bought it to use it afterall :)
let us know how it performs.  I'm waiting for mine to arrive in the next 2 days...  i hope I will be able to dump my 2 6990s and actually end up ahead in terms of $s.

320????

thats not so good. i thought you can get 650mh/s with stock?

per GPU?

320/gpu would be 640 sounds about right

makes sense now.....sorry

Err, yeah per GPU. Sorry I forgot to clarify that.  I just got back from McDonald's and I'm drinking one of those Wild Berry smoothies, they're SO good.  Ok time to get to OC'ing this thing.

If you have the thermals for it shoot for 1ghz clock 900mh/s on a single card would be epic

900 mh/s on a single card would force me to click buy though...

As long as you use my shipping address i'm ok with that

One should easily get over 800 mh/s total for the purchase to make any sense at all.

did you buy one?

Ok at 940/300MHz, 1.112v I'm getting 414.XX MH/s per core (829 MH/s total).  I'm not even sure what the voltage should be since I've never messed with it on my 5870s.  The first core on the 5970 runs cool at 67C/85% but the second core runs a lot warmer (I guess it's getting air downstream of core 1) at 87C.  Don't tell me I need to water cool this thing  :-\

Get a fan like this one or similar and use it across the output vents to evacuate additional air
http://surplusandparts.com/images/DELL_DB9733-12HHBTL-A_P4114_DATECH.jpg

nope. just past experience with mine before it broke and i got a refund.

Check the power usage for the cards bro

I can't tell what power usage I'm hitting, but it all runs with my Corsair AX850.

Got mine today, came with a mini-dp to hdmi adapter, a dvi-hdmi adapter, and CF bridge.

Unfortunately it won't even post. Goes to 100% on the fan and stays there :(  RMAing tomorrow.

Yeah I'm thinking of RMA'ing mine too.  I mean it works just fine and looks sexy as hell, but the mounting bracket is all kinds of bent up from improper packing.

FYI:

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5184/returna.png

Yours does operate fine though and odds are they'll ship it the same way with your new one and you'll have sent a bent card for a bent card.

can it hit 900mhash! it will be great

Did you buy yours from NewEgg, or the other place (that threw in several misc. accessories for about $8 more in shipping)

NewEgg. It came with the usual accessories and, for no extra charge, a post-modern sculpture made out of the mounting bracket on my card.

RMA it now because if it dies 20 days from now, you will have a hard time convincing newegg that it was bent from shipping...

Is there an easy way to swap mounting brackets?  Or is it like welded on there or something?

Generally that's what happens when the card isn't properly seated (but the power is connected)...

It's easy to swap if you have another one... Identical preferably

I read thru this whole post because I just bot 3 of these cards from amazon.  I have a nice 1200 psu and I am hoping to get all 6 GPUs up to 420mhash. with linuxcoin 2.5G with one PSU.  but I am a little worried about the heat on the 2nd gpu someone was talking about...

anyone still running this thing?

I have my first 3 running at 825/300 doing 380Mh/s per GPU. Anything above this seems to be unstable since you are pulling so much juice through the motherboard. You would probably need 16x extenders with the extra molex to be able to do higher Mh/s per GPU.

i have been running a pair of 5970 for a while, not that impressed. 5870s are still much better bang for buck.  with win7 64bit and guiminer, any kind of overclock makes the pc crash after a few days of running.  Now i just run everything at default, gets 1200MH for the pair - 300MH per gpu.  You will definitely need some space between the cards if running 2 of those otherwise the fan cannot keep up. I had to get a pcie extender and an utility blower fan. Now it runs at around 70 degress with 60% fan speed.

With so many people buying this card, hopefully someone can post some stable config for win7 running guiminer.


my rig:

http://spoki.com/images/bitcoin.jpg

are you using win 7? can you post your driver version and overclock program used if so, thanks!

I am running the default build of BAMT on a USB. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28967.0

I'm getting 409-410 MH/s per core @ 910 on a PCI-E 2.1 x1 extender/adapter. Phoenix 1.50/Win7 64.  AMD driver v11.5, Memory @ 300MHz, 1.112v, 3% phatk mod. 73C/88C with a tabletop fan blowing on it.  Also running two 5870s @ 450-460 MH/s on the same mobo.

AGGRESSION=12 WORKSIZE=256 BFI_INT VECTORS -k phatk

switch to phatk2.2 if you are not already.

Trixx tends to be more reliable. I have no clue why but I have had problems going below 500 mhz and with trixx that problem does not exists.

This is the first I've heard of phatk 2.2, but I don't really keep up on the latest & greatest.  Is it faster?

yes.  it's also better on execution of code where I've noticed a 2 degree temp drop.  which ofcourse allowed me to increase OC :)

Yeah I used Trixx to set the clocks and voltage.  I think I can probably go higher than 910MHz but I'm scared heh

there's no reason to be scared.  just watch them temps and keep them in a reasonable range.  if it runs stable, you're good.  Keep in mind that you might want to consider running the "cooler" gpu at a higher clock rate than the second one rather than running both at same clock speeds.

Cool, thank Canary.  I'll check it out when I get out of work.

If you want a stable overclock over 825mhz or so you need to overvolt as well.  Stock 5970 gpus are 1049mV whereas stock 5870 gpus are 1175mV.  You SHOULD be able to safely overvolt to that level but your current draw will be significantly higher.  Also you will need to keep a sharp eye on the 'hot' gpu.  Decouple the gpus using Afterburner so you can OC independently.

Good luck!

received mine just now... packaging is for shit, that's for sure!
but nothing was terribly bent... only one outta 4 had the top lip slightly bent, pliers to the rescue...
next, installation and fire them up.

I decided to just keep mine and not RMA it since I was able to bend the bracket back into shape.  It doesn't look too bad now.  But yeah, packaging sucked ass.

Just got mine,the packaging was subpar but considering it was OEM not a bad deal.I also had no issues with anything being bent and will try the actual cards tomorrow.The two of them felt like I was carrying the ten commandments,lol.

What struck me about the 5970s --

You essentially have the shaders of TWO 5870's in ONE card -- and with a cooling fan -- that isn't much bigger than a single 5870. How the heck does all the heat get out?

No wonder they're hard to overclock.

I'd rather have (2) 5870's for $250 each. Getting another PC isn't *that* big of a deal for me, especially since I go Linux. So density per slot isn't a priority.

I guess it's like a strategy game or RPG  -- If your main character is from the "Linux" race you can easily have multiple machines, but you can't overvolt. Everything has downsides and upsides.

It depends on your situation I guess. I didn't have the space for another 5870 and I ended up having to remove my old 5850 just to have a spot for the new 5970.  Plus I've always wanted a 5970 and now have an extra 5850 to either sell or build a new system with.

Oh yeah and it looks like the 2nd core is downstream of the 1st core in the cooling path.  So that's why it gets so hot compared to the 1st core since it gets sloppy seconds for its air supply.

Looks like they are out of stock now.

^Lol,Don't even think about selling just yet.

I think the 5970's were longer than I anticipated but have barely just enough room in my case for both,but will have to do open case for second PSU though.

Looks like there are a bunch here http://www.buy.com/prod/ati-radeon-hd-5970-pci-e-pci-express-x16-2gb-gddr5-2560x1600-video-card/q/loc/101/223771192.html and they give you a $10 coupon to cover the shipping, so you pay $497.55.

Still trying to decide if I should buy 3 more.

I say do it :P I guarantee you'll have fun building your next rig ;)

Is this the only location that's left that has 5970's?

i've looked and i haven't found anywhere else.

same seller "unity electronics" is selling them on amazon for 499 but without the $10 coupon.

Guess they are almost gone then. People on the fence should make a decision soon before its too late :P

whats a case?

I just got mine today and had no bent bracket although mine came shipped exactly how you described.  I have a rack over it that has a 5830 off to one side and two 120mm fans blowing cold air down onto my 5970, here is a picture of the fan setup:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h195/mikethebodacious/100_3483.jpg

With 850 MHz clock & 250 MHz memory I am getting 380 GH/s each core with 60% fan and 70C temp (with 88C-90C on VRMs).  This is my first 5970 and I must say I love it, great energy efficiency and speed.  The only downside is that it shoots out a lot of really hot air and the top board cover can nearly burn your hand it gets so hot.  Pretty sure you could use this card as a toaster  :D  The deal on Newegg is definitely worth it imo, as long as you blast this card with lots of fans (lowered my VRMs on the second GPU core by 5C by adding the second fan over it.  I think once the card burns in 400 MH/s each core is easily obtainable without too high a fan speed.

Btw, I love your mining team Mousepotato (I'm MATT_DAMON, lol).

looks like we have some great OC setup with the 5970 now. guys please post back in a week or two and let us know if you can actually maintain those OC without crashing.

I was able to get to 400MH but after 2-3 days it always freezes the whole computer, same at 350MH. 

deal at newegg is gone.  buy.com has them f0r $597 with a $10 coupon

lowering the ambient room temperature will help immensely. More than anything else you can do.

The original place still has them as well http://www.unityelectronics.com/products/6475/ATI_Radeon_HD_5970_PCI_E_PCI_Express_x16_2GB_GDDR5_2560x1600_Video_Card_Dual_DVI_Mini_Display_Port_102C0000300_New I ordered 3 more.

amazon still has them too!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ISV72Y

damn these are pretty good deals, but i'm running out of slots.

Ok I'm getting 420 MH/s per core now.  But the 2nd core gets too hot even with the fan at 100%.  Dialed both cores back to 411 MH/s and the 2nd core is at 86C.  I guess I can live with that.

I got both of mine from NewEgg yesterday.  No dents, in perfect condition with the extra goodies delivered as well.  They both run fine at 850/450, 1.162 volts.  Temps around 82C, getting about 360 Mhash/s per GPU, or a bit over 1.4 Ghash/sec total.

Add a fan similar to the one I linked a picture of earlier in front of the vents it'll help pool hot air out of the card and give you a little more room.

Lower your memory to 250, if you have a good card it should lower temps by a couple degrees more so you can turn the fan speed down 5% with MSI Afterburner.  Just close Afterburner and restart it to lower even more.  At 850 clock you should be getting 380 Mhash/s with the proper drivers.  I am using Catalyst 11.6 with SDK 2.4, phoenix miner with -phatk mod.  Just set your agression to 12 and up, with fastloop=false your stale shares on this card are an amazingly low .5% (best stale rate I've got)!

That's way low.  You should be closer to 400mh/s

phatk is optimized for cypress core so if you're not using it you need to switch asap.

Agreed.  And no case.  Temps will go down significantly.

So, are the people buying 500 dollars cards happy with their purchase when the trend for the BTC
price seems to be pointing in only one direction? As in down...

(And please do not mention solidcoins... I am going to guess that is not profitable as it was).

Basically my point is.. are you doing this for fun and giggles or to make some money in a reasonable
amount of time? Because the ROI on this card is getting out there. 4.5 months (143 days) lets say with a btc
price of 8-8.50 and free electricity/time/cooling. If you have to pay for electricity is gets a lot worse.
.08 kWh, lets say, which is cheap, stretches out the pay off date to 200 days.. so after a year of mining
it with no downtime or screw ups you can make 176 bucks.. and that is still cutting off details like exchange
fees, cooling, hardware failure, internet failure, etc..

I am not being a prick. I actually thought about buying a couple of these but the math is just not making
sense. Too many assumptions have to be made.

What say you?

if you think you can mine for a profit, then you shouldn't mine.
it's too early and all depends on whether bitcoin is adopted and becomes mainstream.
instead, buy bitcoins and hold.  maybe you make some money, maybe you won't

mining is still pretty much for fun and something to do with all those spare parts.

the reason i got these cards is to get pretty close to the hashing rate of 6990s and i'm selling back then 6990s to get back $230.  that's the reason.

so, i have mixed experience so far with these cards... got 4.  3 seem to be working OK but not

it seems one of them will not change the stock setting from 725 clock on one of the GPUs (the second responds).  msiab  says 840/300 (what I set it to) but GPU-Z shows stock.
and hashing rate supports stock clock settings...

also, have strange artifacts on one of the cards... going to RMA it.

Question, is it really possible to run 850/300 @ stock voltage on these?

I have to heat an addition to my home that I have to heat this winter that I usually use a 3000W space heater for.  I figured 2 5970s would suffice instead (the heater cycles on and off, the pc will stay on all the time and put out about 800W of heat).  In essence, my electricity is free since I would have used the power anyway to heat the space.  The cold months here last from Sept to March, so I figured in that time the cards would pay for themselves, and I would have 2 nice cards to game with, continue bitcoin mining, or sell afterwards.

Thanks for the tip, I'll try it!

Okay I did some testing.

1) Dropping the memory down (from 500 to 300) did not change much.  Maybe 1C if that.  Power draw on my current system (need to buy a bigger power supply than my current 750W to run both 5970s) with one 5970 from the wall is the same - 550W, measured from my Kill-O-Watt meter.  Didn't help, but didn't hurt, so I'll keep it there.

2) Bumping the speed up to 900 was not a problem.  Maybe a 1C increase.  Nice and steady and a nice bump in returns.

3) I tried the Phoenix phatk mod, and to be honest, I got better results with OpenCL.  Pix attached:

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Thanks for the tips though, I am always open for ANY suggestions!     

Thanks!!

I've tried 1149 v and have no problems running 930/300 900/300 900/300 920/300 setting on 2 cards in 1 system.  temps are in low 80s with a closed case (but I'll play with airflow some more).  Hashing rates are superb too!!  better overall performance than on my previous 6990s.

On the better units it's *possible* but you're right at the edge.  If you can stay up for a week like that you have a really, really good one.  My best card can run for a while at 840 but something will eventually trip it up and will need a reboot.

I see... thanks for info.  What do you think about 1149 V instead of stock?  what kind of damage will it do and in how much time? or is it as always about keeping temps at reasonable levels?

Well 5870s run at 1175 so I think 1149 should be fine.  If you're going to run prolonged like that, though, you'll definitely need to keep an eye on both the 'hot' gpu temp and the vrm temps.  As long as hot gpu doesnt go over 90 and vrm over 115 (or so) you *should* be safe.

However, in the interest of full disclosure, I run mine at stock voltage.  More so because of current increase than anything else.

Edit: Once I get my 220v line wired in I'm going to run them overvolted.  Probably around 1149.

still waiting on my 3 cards.  will put all three on a msi gd70, linuxcoin, silverstone 1200.  Hoping to get 2.5G from one rig.

oh, and amazon raised the price from 499 to 599 :)  they must have been flying out the door.

The answer to that is going to vary from person to person.  For me though this $500 card was already paid for with my 58XX cards, so ROI is a non issue.. the 5970 is my ROI.  With Dead Island coming out next week and Battlefield 3 and MW3 it's going to be plenty of use outside of mining.

bro tell me if 3 works on the silverstone 1200, if so i may go for the psu too

thanks

Amazon didn't raise the price, UnityElectronics did. Probably since Newegg is OOS, they figure they can charge more now. At those prices I'd rather just get 6990's since they'll hold value a little longer  than 5970's.

Stock voltage np.

which psu do u suggest? since silverstone is kinda on the high side of price

Here's a little secret:  I buy used Alienware/Dell 875-1100 on eBay for cheap ($75-150)

Everyone wants a 1200w Silverstone or Corsair but frankly those Dell units are rock solid and if anything are watt underrated.  Dell does that to keep its butt covered.  I have 2 5970s and an AMD A8-3850 APU on a single 875 and it's been running for months.  The wiring harness is ugly as hell but who cares?

An Alienware 1100w will easily run 3 possibly 4 slightly undervolted (1000mV).  The thing is ginormous.

 :D

whoa. You setup a username that i usually use on other forums, with the same password i usually use. Didn't even notice! Sorry about that.

dells have less than 80% efficiency. Cost probably over $100 a year more to run those against a 80plus gold.

O'rly?

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I was able to get the 2x5970s up and running last night, pulling in 400 Mhash/sec per GPU.  I had to go out and buy a new power supply and I chose to get a case that had a ton of airflow (Thermaltake Element G), particularly on the cards themselves.  If you choose to use a case I highly recommend it, though you will need to remove the vertical drive cage for the 5970s to fit.  I'm using an old Core i3-2100 Dual Core CPU I had sitting around, and CPU is basically under full load.  The 5970s held up great at 900/350 1.149V, hottest GPU 80C, coldest GPU 74C.

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Pipesnake,

You have 3 5970 and the APU A8? which motherboard do you use? extenders?

Well I did.  Here was the setup:

Motherboard Brand: ASRock
Motherboard Model & PCIe Slots: A75 EXTREME6 (3 PCIe x 16 slots)
Power Supply Brand & Model: Dell 875w and Dell 525w
Number & Model GPUs: 3 x 5970 (6 x 5870 Cypress) and A8-3850 APU
Extender Cables w/Molex Power?: No

Screen:
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9042/8gpus.jpg

2.2gh/s and approx 900 watts from the wall.  However I was getting almost 25% stales so I pulled one the cards and it fell back under 1%