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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

Concerning exchanges closing registrations,that's normal because the exchange platform can't handle infinite members because hosting limited performance etc..They had to close the registrations to expand their capacity of members by upgrading their servers.Thus,it's not really a manipulation from exchanges.However,whales are kind of manipulating the market we've seen this many times now a whale sold his coins and a huge wave of sells followed him.

I do not think the closing of registrations for new accounts is related to any price manipulation issues. It is mainly down to scaling problems.
I do agree that there are some who can manipulate the price of certain coins.

I've seen in too. In january and february we had dozen of bad news. From bans, gouverments, high bitcoin fees, exchanges wasnt able to handle the load, Soros, Gates, Buffett thoughts - everything looks like its the end of crypto. But et the end of february  it fill like end of storm. No clouds on the sky and pure view on the shiny moon.

Price is manipulated by whales. Just imagine that you are a whale. What would you do seeing bitcoin at 20 000? I would sell or even sell and short. And what if you are that rich and influential that you can manipulate media? Without it you will earn 100 mil out of 1 bil invested with it you will earn 1bil out of 1 bil invested.

About the exchanges - i think that they realy wasnt abo to give quality servise at this load. Even now when pump and dump grups are pumping coins on binance they have problem to keep up with the transactions.

That is a general suspicion with crypto market as the volume is not too large refer to a wealthy person, it is easier to manipulate the price by the rich man compared to other stuff such as forex and stock exchange. Therefore US justice is investigating this issues in recent weeks to prove the suspicion.

If you talking about Bitcoin this will move forward in soon so you should wait for two more months. Many rumours are spread in crypto market so you must analyse then take action because past five years chart is clearly explain the variation of Bitcoin. I think this year it wil reach more than 20000 USD then only you are believe the potential of cryptocurrency.

It is impossible that cryptocurrencies were manipulated. There is no governing body and it is only invented. . . I don't know if it could be regulated. But from what I know we can make it look like stocks exchange market.

It can be manipulated only if the whales are really moving this market, we cannot blame them since that's the only way for them to make money to fully hype the market. Just not focus on this short term run, after this trend for sure the price will finally go higher.

Its possible if all the whales wanted to because they are holding a big volume of bitcoin, hope they are really the reason why the price is quiet stable on this level.

For me that is more than full manipulation that is maybe the reason most people fail in day trading, I think rather than whales major manipulators are exchanges themselves.

But still by closing it they just helped crypto market not to get more money. I mean they closed registration(simultaneously!) exactly in that moment  when the market turned around. It looks really strange. Maybe there were really has technical problems with registration new users but still I think that it wasn't the whole reason

I think that was merely a coincidence about the closure of exchanger registration or could be the fact that they really reached their server limit ahead. Who knows whats the real fact is but one thing is sure that we cant just judge depend upon that. We could have said that it is a price manipulation if it would have been for the single coin. But when it comes to the whole market login up and down then it doesnt real mean that its manipulation. It is natural up and down causing due to real market investment and facts that panic and natural sells are occurring.

Yes, these exchanges were never expected they will get so much traffic all of a sudden and they didn't prepare themselves to provide a service to such a huge member base. Once member base grows then they will expect a lot of tickets and if they fail to provide an answer on time then they will get a bad name so they might have stopped to take new registrations to improve their back-end support. There is a manipulation going on in this uncontrolled crypto market but it is very hard to find out who is doing it.

Every market is manipulated, stocks, crypto , gold, etc.  There will always be someone that has more inside knowledge then you.  Just tried to ride the same waves as the whales do.

many people are losers due to this decline, but not a few also take advantage of this opportunity to buy coins. I think there will be a good time where the value and coin chart will rise again.

I think the price can be manipulated to an extent.
The dictators(whales) can spread negative news and cause  panic, the way the market reacts determines the outcome.

One of the possible reasons why do exchange do close up registrations which is mainly on preventing back-logs towards their service because once they would suffer problems with that it would really make a bad reflect image into their business thats why they do need to do such thing.Manipulation do exist no matter what specially when we do talk into market which do mention about profitability or simply involves money but as being said pinpointing out would really be hard but for sure they do exist.

Basically there are 17 million coins out there but the issue is that most aren't in circulation.

According to some reports only 1-2 million have circulation on a weekly or monthly basis.

If you combine this with leverage and margin trading then yes it's very possible to manipulate the price if you and your whale friends hold enough coins.

Hence the reason why the SEC started a manipulation probe investigation because these manipulations were affecting the Bitcoin future prices. This is generally not good and reason for price crash this week.

Yes' I think that the price is manipulated and I'm not the only one. That's exactly what CTFC (commodity futures trading commission) is investigating right now. They issued subpoenas to a number of exchanges (4 last time I checked) and demanded all trading data. This happened like 2 days ago, and we crashed...
I hope people responsible will not get too scared, what would the market be without a bit of manipulation ;)

I think, the current price decline is not fully manipulated by the pope, but because of the 'existence' of sales transactions in the majority of cryptocurrency users, ahead of the ongoing long holiday.

It's the CFTC that started an investigation regarding the manipulation of the market. I think it's quite a good thing that it happens, especially so because of the fact that it was an increase based on nothing. I am quite sure that if we today would have settled an all time high of $7000 the entire crypto space would celebrate it like they have won a long ongoing war. Whoever it was that manipulated the market like there was no tomorrow, they made billions in a matter of months. They likely bought back the coins they sold way lower too, so we might be up for a similar boost somewhere in the coming years -- these massive increases happen once every few years.

There is element of market manipulation particularly by the Whales who bought huge amount at the cheaper rate and sell later when Bitcoin value appreciate and that make so many people lost during correction period of they thought its value will continue to appreciate but later cut off by the Whales.

With the massive increase in late last year, only for it to drop shamefully at the the beginnings of the year. Since then, the price have been on a very irregular movement, whenever there's a little increase, it is followed by a massive dump and dip, the cycle have been like that for months till this recent one that happened. It's very obvious that there is a very big manipulation gong down underground.

It is not a secret that big money (hedge funds and so on) can affect sufficiently on a market price but I cannot assert that all markets are manipulated. As we know, crowd can also sufficiently affect on market price especially when it is hype around an asset. 
Mainly markets are not manipulated and the price of an asset tends to achieve its value by means of market.

Ill better go with the traditional market price behaviors where manipulation do exist where we can really do see the volatileness rather than seeing it going down due to people are scared because of such action made by government.
For some investors this would be a good thing to prevent such manipulation but they do havent realized that its more profitable for a manipulated market. ;D based on my own experience and own views.

Can't say that it is fully manipulated for sure but that it is mostly manipulated by the people who made fortune on cryptocurrency couple years ago, that's for sure. Now these "whales" just have so much assets that they can dump market when they want and aern money from that. A lot of newcomers and even experienced traders can be squeezed from this market soon if the "whales" continue to do so. It is just hard cope with this unpredictable moves of the market.

Nope. There are only times that whales manipulated the market. We just think that they manipulate it because they hold the biggest share to the market where in fact, we won't see that many factors affect the volatility of the price. One thing here is the panic sellers, they usually done a wrong move whenever the market moves. The unnecessary reaction of panic sellers make the market to swing in downward direction.

I don't thing so the registration of exchange manipulated are the problem the only reason for the is hacking happening about happen in korean exchanger in this past week they been hack about million USD amount of there exchange that's why bitcoin bearish run have become active.

It just strategy to rotect asset and system, exchange have policy to respond market trend and we all do the same. No one can manipulated market because transactions happen on big number in short time, if there's person/ industry/ government can manipulated market, please tell me who it is and how?. Different people different strategy different respond will create different reality, keep focus and enjoy the journey. 

I think there is no way to manipulate the value of the market. If at any one time we can be skeptical (Mtgox) But it will never be possible because of the volume produced by mining companies. They need capital to sustain each cycle of operations but the value of mining will be difficult. No one will be able to manipulate a large volume of bitcoin.
The closing of registration for new members on the exchange, not the first time we see it. Previously, bitrex also reported on this. In my opinion, they need time to adjust their performance and monitor and upgrading of new features and some other related security. It can not determine the behavior and interaction of whales.

After the rapid decline in the value of the market. Some of the information that has been circulated has brought skepticism to investors and users. But in my opinion, that is not possible because the market needs to fluctuate and "refresh" along with mining is increasingly difficult. Even Brandt says, "For the Crypto market, there is not any evidence that whale prices have made this market. The recent decline in May came from the sale of a small number of retail investors. " And I'm sure the next market will be nice and fresh, with the chance to return to the surprise that still has the potential to continue to be patient and trustworthy.

Given that it was manipulated and whales are really involving this works what c we dois there a way we can change this movement?if yes tell us all and we will be happy doing those but if not just stop barking and do your work here

I believe that even if they are manipulating the prices still we have a chance to make profit because trading desires pumps and dumps not just pumping or just dumping .as what the Verses says Of ypu can Beat Them Join Them

That low volume indicates for me that a market has been manipulated while investors are out due to fear in market without news. Remember how much they earn in this manipulations and that was one of the sec regulations to talk about this thing in the crypto market.

I am sure that the price of the main tokens is fully controlled. Unfortunately this is so well and we just have to adapt to the situation.

I don't say forever, but sometimes it happens in their spare time they will do it. Not only in the crypto world it happens in the stock world. But not many people realize it. But also we can take advantage of this situation to gain profit.

I believe that most of the coins in the cryptocurrency market are manipulated by the wealthy and the manipulators of the Exchange. In the past, people used to think whales only manipulated the market, but now the Exchange floor also manipulates the coin traded on their platform a lot. The market is getting more and more difficult without a clear plan.

Closing of registration has never been a form of market manipulation as it is all about the capacity the trading platform could offer at that point in time which most of the time, it is usually opened back to the public, although these days, I am beginning to not believe some exchanges are not involved themselves in other forms of manipulation.

Manipulation generally is known to be done by the whales in the market and for the bitcoin and cryptocurrency market, it is obvious unless there are just some bunch of people who would want to deliberately deny that for some reason. Bear raid, wash trade, P&D, bashing news, spoofing, churning and a lot of other forms of manipulation is one thing I have noticed myself and could really be annoying at times.

Coinbase does a form of manipulation and blames it on maintenance. You get a huge buying limit when the market is down so you can buy more, but when the market is up and starting to fall they halt withdrawals due to maintenance!

Yes decreasing volume in bitcoin mean that the investors are reluctant t invest money in bitcoin, but i think that very soon the investors will get their confidence back and very soon the price of bitcoin will start increasing and hope that we will see the bitcoin price trading above 20000$ in next few months.

Not fully manipulated as you said because not all the stock are hold by the wealthy company's. Maybe the stock holders are making an allying also to other stock holder to manipulate the bitcoin price but this only my theory. Because sometimes I imagine how bitcoin price so volatile.

I do not think so the price is fully manipulated but up to some extent. We know that the market has some factors which are to be stronger and should increase more that will manipulate the market price. Large investments will manipulate the market and we are observing that the current market has traffic as people are investing with huge amount and will manipulate the market soon.

This is something normal here. I think you don’t have to be so sensitive about such cases. Whales have some good power with which they can control the market. Here I want to clear a thing that often people say whales can control a particular coin, no that isn’t right. They can manipulate the market according to their own interests and needs. You just be careful from their actions.

Yes, the price is highly manipulated by the news.  I guess Crypto Ban is the major cause, the media people comes with the Ban news everytime, price falls down. And the Cryptocurrency prices because of the Crypto whales who holds the high number of coins and sell them all together at once. Which cause the price declines, still people are Hoping to see the rise of the price again as end of 2017 and early 2018.

I am pretty sure there is no one that does not know this is already a fact and sometimes the whales are so stupid and dumb enough to keep making it obvious. Compared to the past, I must say that bitcoin price manipulations are got reduced but I am not sure what future has for us.

As a whale, I believe you already have an upper hand in the market, but then trying to create wrong impression in the market based on some technical movement or some fundamental news is just becoming pathetic in this market and I really hope something is done about it which would really have to start with the exchanges because I am sure they know much about this.

There are so many investors in this world of the crypto currency and that it is not possible for all the investors to make some profit all the time and that there are people who lose their money as well due to their own mistakes but the thing is you must stay in your senses and that you don’t have to make any decision without even thinking over it and that you must be careful while dealing with things at time of pump and dump.

Nothing else but the manipulation of the big whales. Poor late people. If they come to make profit, I hope they will not be disappointed.

We have all the reasons to think about it in that way because crypto currency going to those heights and slashing back with no reasons was really ambiguous one to see. I think it was way big plan that what we think or how it was conveyed to us - the general investors!

But there is another possibility that bitcoin is getting manipulated now as whales might wanna have another profit box for themselves in the same way they had last year. Who knows people might see this coming and start pouring more money into the crypto and thus will pump the prices naturally over the time and whales will benefit from it. So it may be manipulated for good or bad reasons but it is the same.

difficult to answer on that question, its unfair accusing to the big time investor which is called as whales manipulated and controlling the bitcoin value in the market. I'm not in the side from the big whales but I'm telling what is the fair for us, do not accuse if there nothing contrite evidence for them.

Even we do know it but we cant do anything about it we are just small investors manipulation might be there. Then what? Go along with it and not to be surprised on how crypto prices do moves. Manipulated or not but we can really be profitable on this market. Depending on how you deal and make ways to utilize those movements. The important thing on the very first place is that you should really know on the risk behind it so that you wont be surprised if you lose up money because of the volatility.

I believe that it's impossible to fully manipulate with bitcoin price, because it's decentralized and many people do what they want to do with their bitcoins. Who control news and the ones who spin the news can manipulate with masses, if masses follow that and sell in panic or buy I'm fever, manipulators use that, they earn when others losing.
To many people is involved in bitcoin right now, and community is growing more. I think in future it will be harder to manipulate with bitcoin price. Decentralization is the key here, nobody can order us what we need to do with our bitcoins, don't fall on false news.

Quite right, the news has a very strong influence on the actions of investors and other users of crypto-currencies. Even any information on bitcointalk can raise interest in crypto currency or a certain coin, and also lower it below the skirting board. But nevertheless the market is still manipulated by large whales, throwing out or buying up a certain number of coins, Which leads to the situation that they need at that time.

Yes, I believe that prices for everything are controlled: gold, oil, gas, precious stones, crypto currency, etc. In the media, information is sent to the crowd to listen and believe. thereby creating an opinion of the crowd.

Most people think it is.Nice article OP but it's just so unfortunate to know  that it won't work that way you have stated it or viewed it because  emotions either good or bad  are part of human make up. No human being is born without emotions, infact, this is what makes us a living thing so we can't get rid if it totally but on the issue of trading emotions c.

I think no even there's so many whales that more funds than us I think they can't fully manipulated the market because it's basing to demand in the market if all people. And I think its normal that the market have a down and ups like Btc because like I said it's basing on demands in the market.

Yes i heard if  the market has been manipulated in january by Tether and Bitfinex. This is possible they do that because they big company that has alot of money.   Crypto market just young market that has low market cap and low trading volume that why the price possible to manipulate by any party that has big money.

It is just a coincidence.
You are just trying to analyze way deeper than anyone.
Thise are billions of dollars that are out there. How do you think you could shake it without even a trace from amy industry. Banks and other financial services can somehow tell where it will come from if it is that big.

Right now it gets stricter. There is a limit into how much you can deposit and withdraw. So it will not be easy to manipulate it. You would need a big group to make it happen.

I partially think like that and this is because the market invisible forces also pay a role in the manipulation or fluctuation of the prices. The sharks and whales in the market are also responsible for the price manipulation. But the factor like profitability and liquidity of the crypto like Bitcoin are not fluctuated and is still the same which is the only reason people are still investing in the market.

Don't look it with only one sided vision and this billion dollars it was a marketcap and in my almost 4 years in crypto i will say that this low volumes is advantage for tge big people and knowingly there is a group of organization whose behind on this proven manipulations. If read the news they are investigating with this manipulations in price and there is no limit in depositing imagine how many people have a big amount of bitcoins.

The exchanges closed new registration to upgrade their system for bigger user database and it had nothing to do with price manipulation. Obviously, It was just a coincidence, you couldn't verify your statement with proof. The market relatively has lower capitalisation than forex does, so yes it can be easily manipulated by whales.

Most exchanges are whales themselves and I won't be surprised they may have an inside trader who would be doing the manipulations. Things like this should be spotted and not allowed to happen in any market as it affects the free and fair movement of the market based on real demand and supply.

It is obvious that fake signals are being created to mislead traders and investors, bots keep doing their thing based on how they have been programmed for manipulation, and so on.

Due to lack of mass adoption, bitcoin market is still under manipulation. Only when bitcoin marketcap to be hiting multiple trillion dollar levels, we may assume those manipulators will come to a point where they will not have power to move the market direction on their own wishes.

It is no longer a suspicion, as it is glaring unless for those who have decided not to see it.
This market has been behaving in different ways lately that is definitely subject to manipulation and from all the characteristics of a manipulated market, I am sure whoever is smart or vigilant enough to notice would have noticed.

I have never been a fan of regulation but it seems we just cannot do without it as this would help with huge growth and diminish all these form of market manipulations.

The price of bitcoins cannot be manipulated, the only reason for the price of bitcoins to sink again is through fud that can actually spread in a country which will change the mind of a people to sell their coins more than holding it.

They always say a lot of crap in news. CNBC fast money made a video "how to buy shitcoins tops" and dumped on people. It is maniulated. Forex markets are manipulated too.

Seems like this is what everyone is beginning to wonder now and it is becoming really worrisome as it is sending some negative waves to the market. Yes, the market is manipulated as I have seen series of washing, and a way to generate false or misleading movements in the market which is totally not good.

Manipulation is generally illegal in most markets like stocks but since this is a decentralized space, this is now beginning to become rampant and I hope something can be done in near future to stop those manipulators to safe guard the rest of innocent traders. Because, we cannot simply keep watching some people controlling the entire markets.

Did you ever observe why the price was increased so much in just a few months in the last year and then dropped about $14000? I do not think that such a huge pump and dump was possible without whales manipulating. Why other currencies are increasing slowly and there is no big pumps in the price because they are not interested in small coins.

Yes, it is manipulated (like on every other market). It's hard to find an altcoin without anyone pulling the strings and orchestrating orders on an exchange.

Of course, prices are subject to manipulation. And in the crypto currency market this influence is much stronger than in traditional markets. There is enough even a slight hint of bad news that the exchange rate has collapsed.

There are always manipulations everywhere. Before, most manipulators in the crypto market are personally people but nowadays I can say that huge banks and the top rich people in the world are having their stakes and are also trying to manipulate it.

Yes you are talking about Bitcoin this will move forward soon so you have to wait for several more months. Many rumors are spread out in kriptocurrancy market so you should analyze then take action because the last five years chart clearly explain the variations of Bitcoin. You do not think the closing of registration for new accounts is related to the issue of price manipulation. This mainly comes down to scale issues.

Price of bitcoin is not completely manipulated. It is clear that to some extent the price is being manipulated by the whales, beyond which the market moves independently. When the whales manipulate the price automatically this leads to a large scale panic among the users and the same makes the manipulation sustain for a longer time period.

In my own opinion, the price of bitcoin is manipulated but not fully manipulated, there's a chance but not always. The price is bitcoin can be manipulated because it is decentralized and works like silly and demand. There are many people who has many money to buy bitcoins and sell it in much higher price. Then if they sell it, the price of bitcoin will instantly drop because they have the higher percentage of holding bitcoin.

Last years pump was driven by the new investors. Investors coming from different directions like from those who are in stocks who wants to try Cryptocurrency and new investors who think Bitcoin is a good short term investment. After hitting ATH last December, you see a sudden drop of BTC price, new investors dumping and I think what we are seeing now are those new investors who tried to hold on to their bags but now slowly bailing out. Manipulated? I dont think so.

The price of the crypto currency market is manipulated by whales, and we have already made sure of this many times. However, they can not fully regulate the price in the market. A lot of people are involved in the market, in sum this is a very large amount, so they can not completely influence the market.

Bitcoin may or may not be manipulated but there I do believe that there are whales in the market and they surely pump BTC prices at times to take out more profits from the market. I guess this is the reason why BTC is not increasing much in price. I don't exchanges closing registrations has anything to do with this because they might be facing the same manipulation too if we are facing it. So its hard to say whether its manipulation of BTC price or a pump.

I agree that btc prices are always dominated by people called sharks, because they hold too many btc. However, I do not think they can manipulate such a large crypto market, so to do so they have to have the active be in sync. And make sure it's not easy.

there are some markets that manipulate the price and there is also a market that adjusts to the sale and purchase, not all markets can be manipulated because there are some very tight market and wear a strong security.

I would like to believe that it is not because of the correction but this is not normal when correction hits like this. So, indeed it is manipulated already since from the start of this year. Bitcoin is always struggling to recover and break the resistance of $10k before and now, it is having already a hard time of breaking the $7k resistance. What more do we expect if this keeps on happening? I almost think that Bitcoin is dead already but it is still trying to recover at some point but can't move up.

Yeah, it is really a lot stronger in this market. This is an unregulated and a decentralized market and it is highly expected to see things like this happen. The obvious thing here again is that the market is still new, the market cap is not even that huge yet as it is something these institutions have more than enough to even play with and manipulation is always something that is going to be bound for us to see happen.

Until we actually start seeing people getting to use the market in real life as a currency globally and enmasse, before we can start seeing less manipulation.

There would always be that someone or those set of people who have more than enough to move the market to their advantage. As long as they have enough resources to have accumulated at the bottom, they can easily start moving the price up by buying sell walls and making sure it gets a lot of support, the traders starts moving in, FOMO starts kicking in and then it all starts before the distribution and dump occurs. The manipulators are always there and I believe there is nothing we can do about it at least for now that the market is more speculative in nature.

Market manipulation is possible because trade market is completely panic one because when any negative news released most of the people are panic and start dumping them in the market. So bitcoin is manipulated by the whales who has more coins.

To be honest, the price is not full name manipulated but it is the effect of fear of missing out after a little fluctuation in the price. As we all know that crypto industry is still in the basic phase of development, there is a lack of knowledge, awareness and mass maturity and hence big whales and institutional investors take the advantage of this situation. ]Thus the situation is influenced by certain elements but it is not under the control of those elements completely.

Sometime it can be manipulated, and most of whales are manipulating the cryptocurrency by the price, but we should to be aware and should be stronger in take decision because it can be a trap for us before buy or sell any coins.

I do believe that there are some forms of manipulation on cryptocurrency business, but the total balancing system are only beyond the control of cryptocurrency management, and the truth of price control system is really on the management decision that base on the market situation which fits on the volume of market demand and supply.

Price is being heavily manipulated at the moment.

When price went $6000 after returning from a low of $5800, BTC long positions were at highly overbought condition and were 30% more than shorts which made it quite riskier to hodl longs. This was all according to the technical analysis. but BTC completely went against the TA and gone through a 6% instant rise. I am not saying TA is always correct. But how it failed to this extent when volume and price trend were both directing towards another dump to $5800 after $6000. This shows that whales are manipulating the market and working against the common market perception which ruins the small traders and make them panic sell.

Yes a group of cartels is trying to manipulate the price through some exploit they've been doing for a long time using also some exchanges they're making some fake volume trading or dump a huge amount of crypto. In order to trigger a downtrend and causing FUD for traders then they blame it to the hacks in trading site like in korea.

I am not denying that the price is manipulated but fully is not happening,the exchanges were closed registrations maybe the coincident or by the whales but still they can't completely control it so it all depends on how we react to the market situation.Most of the time they will just trigger the manipulation and they will carried out long way through those idiots who don't believe the technology behind it.

It will not work for the whales of we will be determined and not to sell, they just do this for their own betterment, most of time new users get trapped by them but those who knows will never sell their bitcoin to help them manipulate the market, actually they do this pre planned for better low price bitcoin, they sell high amount of bitcoin in market so price gets down for higher supply them those greedy and clever whales buy double amount of bitcoin to increase their income.

It is interesting that even before entering the market the newcomers are educating themselves fully and when they enter the market they still don't know when the manipulation occurs. Bitcoin has become so popular and because of that popularity, many newcomers want it because of its volatility and because of the mystery future growth. When the observers saw the last year growth all of a sudden every one of these same observers is entering the market which isn't in fully manipulated but in most cases it is. All are hoping for easy money but instead of reacting to the mentioned manipulation they should just ignore it! But for the ignorant ones ignoring is not possible because in the moment of the well-organized manipulation they don't even know that it is already happening.

Crypto market is been manipulated because of they news surrounding it's growth, when a top personality says a bad news that concern crypto eventually you have to see they effect or when there is hacks also they market drops

I think price manipulation on the cryptocurrency market is very common and frequent because most coins have relatively small trading volumes and large investors can completely dominate the value of it. That's a pretty annoying thing to invest in the cryptocurrency market.

May be it is but still i think that we do not any any evidence about it, i think that as bitcoin price is now trading too much high as compare to previous time when it was trading in some hundred dollar, at that time it was more easy to manipulate bitcoin price but now it has become too much difficult and it will require a lot of money for single person or for some big whales to manipulate the bitcoin price.

Some traders of crypto-exchange exchanges use the scheme of manipulating quotations for crypto-currencies, known as Pump and Dump, and some market or propel the market with self-fulfilling prophecies, perhaps without even realizing it.
The information about the sharp jumps or falls spreads in a matter of seconds, creating a crowd of people who are in a hurry to redeem the coin because of the lost profit syndrome (FOMO) or sell it for fear of being left with nothing (FUD).there are also some big players (whales) who do not want to give their earnings to hamsters...

Yes, maybe, this is the second time around in 2018, maybe the whales are trying to manipulate the market, and this time they are buying into the most potential altcoins, in my opinion. is the main reason for the deep discount market as it is now.

If I think sometimes it happens in their spare time, they will do it. Not only in the world of kriptocurrancy that occurs in the world of stock. But not many people realize it. This exchange closes new registrations to upgrade their system to a larger user database and has nothing to do with price manipulation.

Yes price is manipulated because of crypto whales. But same things are happening in other platforms like stock exchange etc. But because of this manipulation only crypto became available to common man. But in crypto market no panic sell need to wait till we get profits. Day trading is better way.

I don't think so. The market is so huge and i don't know how can day manipulate the market. But don't take away the possibilities that some group of billionaires can put an impact on the market.

No, I think the price is driven by idiots most of the times. News can heavily impact this market because most people are beginners at this. People that have a lot of money and invested in bitcoin aren't usually trading, look at the winklevoss brothers, they are not trading, they just hold, they don't give a fuck about the fluctuations. People on the other hand do.

Normally that is the idea of the manipulation or what do you really think the manipulation is all about. The whales carefully read emotions on the chart and they play with it.

It is as easy for them as the market is more speculative in nature and as long as that is in play, they can create signals to their advantage and the thing is that they are the market makers and they will always be winning in every way. Hopefully as time goes on, we will get to start seeing the market move based on real demand and not by FUD or FOMO.

You misinterpreted the OP I guess. The FOMO, FUD are all different names of something that is coming out of the panic of people. However OP's right in terms of manipulation too. This I believe is the act of getting prices changed intentionally by selling or buying the large quantities of the tokens that are being manipulated.
If you really check the past graphs then its surely impossible to predict as to why there was sudden pump of the december month as going that high was merely impossible with natural hikes because you will surely need that many investors making investment. But it was surely act of whales and yes thats the best proof of price manipulations.

I believe that prices are manipulated by the people who have large investments but not reaaly much. There are always other reason why does the price swings up and down. Just like panic selling where they contributed for the price to move in a downward direction and it was result of FUD news spread by the media.

After going through some of the research papers, I came to know that manipulators actually exist and they can manipulate the values but not always. At times, the market simply does not respond to the fall in the demand. And even if there is a high aggregate demand in the market, the fall in the demand by the manipulators might not be so high and the effect will be a very lump sum one.

Of course the price has been manipulated by big investors. They change the price according to their well. When they want to sell the price will jump to sky and when they want to buy the price will drop like a failed missile. Whales are the big problems for small investors in cryptocurrency. They just think of themselves and never think about thousands of small investors.

You can say it in a way it is manipulated because there are some individuals or group of individuals who have invested a lot on a certain coin and if they pull everything out, its a big deal if everything went down as well then people begin to panic. And with regards to the exchange sites that closes, that happens if the site cant handle the number of transactions and of course it could cause the delay of the transactions thats why some have to close them for the meantime.

In my opinion the bitcoin price is changing naturally due to it's market forces the prices show a change and if the demand rise the price show a rise and some time the price is manipulated by the big suppliers and the large portion of bitcoin holders have bring a steady change in the prices so it happens.

I believed that price manipulation is everywhere and applied to both crypto and non crypto investments like stocks exchanges. The price manipulation including conspiracy are the strategies of the big whales and some business tycoon so that they can control the market trend for their advantages of earning huges and there is nothing we can do but to ride on them with a perfect timing.

In my own opinion, the market prices can never be manipulated because the price of cryptocurrency is always depending on supply and demand so keep on holding your coins today to earn more profit in the future.

yes of course, it has been happening since 2010, even since the creation of bitcoin. It has always been manipulated and there is no way to discuss it, because we all know the way that it works at the moment, and it is not so good after all

sometimes whales manipulate the price, not everytime. it is normal if the price down then we find many bad news about price wont go up again, coz it is always like that, and bitcoin at a time still speculation tool

Sometimes I think that prices have been mastered and manipulated by whales. but like the natural laws that have occurred in the conventional market, there are whales as rulers who can manipulate prices easily. The money is in power

I don't think it is just a natural way, price trend today is totally different from of previous years. Market trend is pretty hard to predict since last year due to wide market manipulation created by some groups of investors. They are using their money to create changes and made crypto into more volatile which could result into losing by newly adopters.

I also think whether this is a manipulation of rich traders that they can buy back at a cheap price, I do not know for sure but what is clear at the moment is a good time to buy btc as possible and hold it until the value goes up.

I don't think so . Most of the sentiment of big investors is badly affected because this market is continuously adjusting and there are no signs that the price increase in the next few months. If we want the correct answer then we need to end the trade war because it affects all the world's markets in the world and when it stops the price may rise again.

price is not manipulated. we an see the run of market. there are a lot of investors are complaining when the price is dropping in their company or project they invest. price is unpredictable you can never tell when its gonna rise or drop

Well i think that whether it is manipulated is out of the question. The market is manipulated but not fully. Even now i think manipulation has something to do with how the market is and why we've stayed in a bear season for this long.

I think that the price depends on many factors and it is always manipulated by someone. I think that this fact can't be changed and such situation will take place always and everywhere. as for me, it is like this

That's all about cryptocurrencies. Manipulation is unavoided no matter how bad you want it to follow your opinion. Let's hope for your luck. Be hopeful!

you are right, some whales manipulate price to get profit, but trading it is not about that, it is about how we can take profit from their strategy too and not follow what they want we do. that is the way to be successful trader in cryptocurrency

It has been like this for centuries, and not only with bitcoin, the same happened with the US dollar, GOLD, silver, copper, and all the other assets and comoditties, it is all manipulated and it has always been exactly like that, there is nothing new with this.

hard to reply on that inquiry, it's out of line denouncing to the big deal speculator which is called as whales controlled and controlling the bitcoin esteem in the market. I'm not in the side from the enormous whales but rather I'm telling what is the reasonable for us, don't denounce if there nothing penitent confirmation for them.

focus and dont mind on what big investors can also have to do here ,
and this is what other people hard to understand that why is it may have to happen.

it might be that many people want big profits so he spread fud about crypto and makes everyone panic and sell his assets, when the btc value goes down then he will buy it and wait till its value goes back up.

I won't claim its 100% manipulated, But yes its being manipulated by whales and some billionaires. I am sure of it 100%.

Isn't proven yet, but it could be possible to happen as whales trying to control prices with the used of their money. But since we are in decentralized market,  definitely it couldn't be totally manipulated nor they take control the entire market. 

Most especially for a market that is driven by speculation. We all know as much as value this market creates, very few are utilizing it for what it is and most people are actually just trying to find means to get rich overnight and discarding the real value and since that is the case, it has made the market to become purely speculative, driven by FUD or FOMO, the whales trying to drive it up or down to their own advantage and we just cannot hide from it.

Even bitcoin marketcap is big, only very few people are into active trading and the number of reputed marketplaces also very less. These are the things which will help manipulators as forex kind of markets are having completely different senario compared to cryptos which means manipulations are still possible.

Yes may be in some cases we can say that price is manipulated but i think that with the increasing number of bitcoin such factor are now decreasing, i am hopeful that a time will come it will become difficult to manipulate the bitcoin price so much. It is in fact depending on the increasing number of investors in bitcoin world.

there are some people say that bitcoin prices can not be manipulated, and for new investors do not be easy to believe with the current negative news is much happening, we better find the actual news why the current price of crypto decreased significantly.

but it will not be that easy, a lot of people do spreading fud but do not affect the market, maybe you have to be influencer first to do that, bitcoin in the facts will be more difficult in manipulation because the more users and the bigger marketcap, is not full manipulation right now dude

You are overestimating the event of registration closing. Because the crypto value is determined by the demand, it is undeniable that crypto markets could be manipulated by those who have large funds (whales), but we can only assume and will not know the exact occurrence of true or not manipulation. Bitcoin has a high volume and a very expensive value, I'm not so sure about whales that are manipulating bitcoin markets, I instead think it's more to the negative impact of the news.

I think the market was really manipulated from the beginning. I joined the Crypto market at a time when Bitcoin's price was $ 20k and I thought this was an easily manipulated market. Its capitalization is quite small and it is often a good condition for the whale to manipulate.
But anyway, they have to sell everything at high prices and the market is up again.

They can perhaps do it but the effect is very quick when they put money and setting an order on the trading sites. I remember seeing on bittrex an order of BTC10 that is immediately inserted just to pump up the volume and the price.

The whales can easily manipulate the market and the cryptocurrency prices. These small group of the richest people has concentrated over 90% of the crypto in their hands. Thus, in a way, we depend on them.

You mean bad rumors cause prices to fall. In my opinion, crowd psychology is the main reason for falling prices. The factors that can make psychological panic then buy them or sell off are the news, the big events, the whales. Nobody has the power to control market prices, only the trend at that time

Exactly, some whales are manipulating the market, they try to lower prices so that the sellers sell their coins. Prices fluctuate and they try to make the most profit. But this only happens when people are bewildered, fearing that bitcoin prices have fallen sharply in the long run

I'm hesitant to know how. But if manipulated, within the first six months of 2018 will never grow. So it can not be called manipulative

There is some manipulation going on that is a sure thing but it is not as big as many people think, it is impossible to fix the price of something like bitcoin, yes they have a lot of money and bitcoins to try to do that but that is not enough, people instead of concentrating in conspiracy theories they should concentrate on what they have doing wrong instead of blaming others for their mistakes.

What has happened since January 2018 are redistributing of bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies to the new investors because the old holders are selling off there position and new investors are buying them at cheap price.  Manipulatiors are they  in every face of business endeavour and I don't think they control the market hundred percent.

I fully believe in this, you can see that bitcoin is very few countries in the world recognized for the relevant laws, in addition to bitcoin is a very new field that makes it very subordinate countries. and there is no suitable plan to control.

Therefore, the price of bitcoin dominated by sharks and whales is inevitable. You can see that the market is fluctuating continuously and it is hard to predict, bitcoin prices adjust in large amplitude.

I would claim 250% that it's being manipulated. If I had that cash I would also do the same thing. You buy low and sell high, nothing strange about that.

If the prices were changing naturally then there would be no big bump in the price last year. Normal means increase with the growth of market cap. When more and more people invest in bitcoin it means that the demand for bitcoin increased and now the price will also increase but the film was different and we saw that now the price will grow more but suddenly it collapsed to the knees.

You are right dude. However, we are actually talking about the manipulation of prices. And I don't think it is hundred percent being manipulated. I think those whales are the ones who manipulate the price of bitcoin. Only them have the capability to manipulate the price because they are holding large amount of bitcoin.
On the other hand, if they will not bring back the high price of bitcoin, the trust of people will continue to go down.

Manipulation isn't  a way to totally control the entire market but could affect prices. Some crypto whales trying to catch newly crypto adopters which isn't have huge knowledge on crypto investment  and mentally they never know how trading fields work.  Isn't just of today's practices, manipulation is happen already since from the start but can't we feel it.

It will take allot of money before they can manipulate the market. And i don't think that some people can do that. But there are so many people telling that somebody is manipulating the prices.

most of the market is manipulated that's why we have something called technical analysis. it will show the sentiments and prediction of the market. without market manipulation, it will be useless. unless there is a pump and dump which manipulation that can not be predicted.

- Well in the past, price manipulation was a sure thing when the field just started, whales and big guys always work together to control price and make more money but over time, the appearance of other groups has entered into this domination, prevent the control and force the market to go in different directions. No longer fully manipulated, now each group may have split up where they can manipulate, sometimes they can fight each other to gain control

The price of every coins is maniulated in some sence. Retain traders can move markets with low liquidity for a short period of time, but it's a market maker who orchestrates the pumps.

In my own opinion, the market prices are not manipulated, the only problems are those people who are selling their coins due to panicking and fud.

Even this big and longest bear run is another example of such behavior and manipulation from whales and all other big investors. Actually they can’t control the bitcoin and their transactions but yes they have got authority to control the market of this bitcoin. And they are classically handling it for so long time. So don’t just worry, things might gets fine.

if this technology is innovative, it is not controlled, but gradually kept, to be able to buy cheaper with huge amounts of money. This is a more correct interpretation of the situation

bitcoin price is very much manipulated as the top few holders controls the majority of bitcoins. the distribution is so non-uniform that these whales basically control the bitcoin prices and can do to altcoin prices with the flick of a finger.

Trading, of course, is a zero sum game. Worse, due to exchange fees. In the long run everyone loses day trading, only the exchange wins. But not if you can fool other traders.

I think price can be partly manipulate but not all time and not for all coins. I think such manipulations interfere with the natural growth and decline of the market.

yes of course the price on the exchange is all very easy to manipulate, if you have a lot of trading capital then you can control the rise and fall of the coin price.

I'm thinking that the price is partly manipulated, because no one can not affect Bitcoin in the way of total domination. Even the biggest whales can just manipulate the price by slightly declining it into a side that is positive for them.

you are absolutely right, because the current situation in the crypto-currency market very clearly shows the possibilities of those people who have a large number of coins. Manipulation will be and were earlier.

Your story defines that the price is definitely manipulated and whales can influence the market. Closing registration and then opening and new about the price, all these clarifies that the price is not natural and some people adjust it according to their well. I admit that it is true and due to manipulation small investors cannot make money from it.

If a person has more coins with him he can easily manipulate the coin because most of the people who join in the pump and dump groups will always lose their money because they will buy the coins at a very high price.

whales do have a lot of money and they do have a lot of coins therfor they can easily manipulate the market on their own favor but they cannot totally control the overall market of cryptos because that will take a lot of billions and trillions of money .  so we users are also responsible for the price change aside from the whales.


that is a dumb move if you buy a coin at a high price , for sure not all peopld will do that exept if he is an ultra rich guy. Also,   not all who join a pump and dump groups will loose because some of them do also earn due to the reason that they unite on what they will do about thier holdings.

Well in my opinion, the price cannot be fully manipulated because the market forces also determine the prices and the activity of the Whales is a small part of the factors that influence the prices. Besides, the government can also manipulate the prices by which I mean to say that any regulations from the government can decrease the demand and hence the prices. There are so many reasons.

Well as I would like to think, the cost can't be completely controlled on the grounds that the market powers likewise decide the costs and the action of the Whales is a little piece of the components that impact the costs. Plus, the legislature can likewise control the costs by which I intend to state that any directions from the administration can diminish the request and thus the costs. There are such a large number of reasons.

I don't think if the price is fully manipulated but as far as I know the whales could control the crypto price if they want, however there are some factors that affects crypto price like fake news and other and banning crypto in other countries, also some influential individuals that hate crypto is one factor that causing people to afraid in investing crypto.

Price will face with upheaval situations and it faced and has been facing which is our fault, though there is nothing to worry but we all are foolish to make irrelevant decisions being educated. I have concerned on people as they sell directly without looking at market price which is low these days and they sell immediately as the price increases a little and this act declines the price further.

Most likely it was manipulated indirectly by the crypto whales. We all know that investors affect the market price, by dumping and buying coin it really have great impact to the price. The whales are those have big money that put and withdraw in the market. Their movement was the term we called manipulation. But in real world they are just like normal investor buy and sell.

I had the same feeling too, but I cannot find any evidence to prove that. It is very relieved to see your thread. Besides  governments, I believe many dark organisations are also trying to manipulate the market.

In my own opinion, prices cannot be manipulated because it was depending on the supply and demand in the market, however there are people who cannot bear the heat when the market prices are dropping.

Currently cryptocurrency market has low market cap and the price just like pump and dump , because with low market cap will be more easy for whales to manipulate the price. Crypto market is just young market and need acouple year more for the market cap going to atrillion dollar, and when the market cap going to multi trillion dollar will be more hard for whales to manipulate it.

Man, you can never predict this manipulation even if you are a real expert in technical analysis. The whales that hold almost all Bitcoins can do whatever they want.

I think that the main factor is the relation of the supply and demand, there are many factors that influence the price but it is not obvious which one influences it now, i m not expert maybe because of this

No it wasn't but I believe there are times that it was really manipulated or so it look like. But I disagree that price is fully manipulated. Price normally goes down if there is bad news that could affect it like hacking, banned, anything that could result to price fall.

In my opinion, if you manipulate the market, only in a short time will the market recover, which lasts for the first 6 months of 2018, the price of the coin continuously decreases, so can not be called manipulation. .

I think if 50% of the total assets of btc or more could manipulate and control the price of btc, as we know china is the country with the world's largest btc miner
any news coming from China always has a significant impact on BTC prices

It was definitely most likely manipulated by some unknown whales which affects most in the current situation in the market. This is what we called the price correction that really affects on the market value. This affects all of us, all of the investors and all of the traders and users.

Some markets are manipulated by whales.
a whale can put walls on the list just to bag the number of tokens they want.
they can also stop for a while a bull run just to get some tokens before it goes to the moon./

no, I think it is not manipulated "fully" but there are people who can make huge impact on the price. They are the whales,they are big market players and can somehow manipulate the price through their power.

People are anticipating for btc price pump because of all the rumors about btc "skyrocketing after ETF". Which make people sell their cheap alts at a loss some even at around -50% above loss. For me the more logical strategy is to buy the blood on the streets so I just scoop up as much alts that I can for long hold, but that is just me and I am also trying to hold some btc in my port to be safe this is not financial advise tho.

To say it completely manipulated, I think it is very difficult. Sharks can only control 60% of the market price. But to say full control then I think there is no such thing.

Whales doesn't control the market, always its not possible I think. The usual demand and supply does provides a great factor towards its up and down. But I will say whale often triggers the rise or fall. Also the news around the globe also matters for the movement. And aahhh! the panic sellers, right, lol, they are the most dangerous part of the market.

Well it has always been like that, and there is nothing surprising with that, i think that the prices have always been manipulated, and exactly the same thing is happening with a bunch of coins that are already solid on the market.

The prices are not manipulated but sometimes they are, and you must be smart.

The whales manipulate the prices and imagine yourself being a what to know the process.

All that you described above once again proves to us that the crypto-currency market is not manipulated by stock exchanges or large whales. The movement of the market depends entirely on the opinion of the majority, so you can only blame yourself.

I think with the current trend of growth, perhaps there is a force that is trying to manipulate the BTC, which is characteristic of the market, growing stronger while the other coin is constantly decreasing.

Maybe,  it is being manipulated by a big investors who wanted to earn a higher profits.  As the small investors get panic,  they will surely sell the coin at the very low price.

Prices of bitcoin and other cryptos may be manipulated but it cannot go on forever. A shift in prices are likely to affect emotions and people may begin to sell at a much more lower price and this may delay bull markets by a country mile. Bad/Good news affect the market massively as well.

Yes I agree on that big investors have the will to make price being drop and maybe pump in a verry quick ways. They have the power to male things possible . Bit I believe that it is also hard for them to manipulate maybe they are a group of investors which is manipulating price for their own. They are real greedy and they wanted many more profit even of they are already billionaire I guess.

there is always a chance to be manipulated price but think positively. indeed there are institutions that oversee the movement of the market. for we always have a disadvantaged and benefited if the market manipulated. and hopefully we always be given a fortune.

Sometimes most of the people who are holding the coins will manipulate the price but it won't stay much longer there. Soon the price will dump faster and makes the investors lose their money. Don't fall for pump and dump, it will make you lose money when there are manipulations.

i think not, because if the price manipulate so they can make price dump and pump faster, but its normal when the price go up because so many demand, then some people want to take profit by selling BTC that make the price dump, and now that stable at 7000-7700.
about the exchange, i think they cannot handle because in 1 day maybe 100 - 1000 account registered, so they close the registered for a while.

I agree with your thoughts. This market is very different from 2017 and all altcoins have not had a good recovery in this time. Most of the whales involved can be pump very high for a short time, but now it is very little because most whales are traveling this year and they are not ready to return to the market.

For some moments in price changes there may be interference by whales, but to think that overall price changes are manipulated by someone is a difficult thing to do. we know that bitcoin has a huge marketcap of up to billions of dollars, and it would be very difficult to do manipulation when the marketcap is very large..

Yes I believe the price of bitcoin's manipulated (often manipulated) but not fully manipulated, the decline in bitcoin prices can occur by the user's own behavior namely by how to do sales. With sales it certainly can increase the amount of bitcoin supply and result in on the weakening of bitcoin prices.

Price of Bitcoin at this current stage is not better for sellers but better for buyers so it is not looking fine for those who have invested in it and now waiting for the price to go high. The price of Bitcoin can manipulate in the positive direction only if we start buying it more and more and hold then so that the price will go higher which is the well and wish of all of us as we are here for profit.

Closing the accounts does not really mean that the prices are manipulated. 

I think that this topic does not need to argue, because everyone already knows that the crypto-currency market is not only being tried, but successfully manipulated. First of all, those who have a greater number of crypto-currencies. But as I know, even closed societies are being created to successfully adjust the market for themselves.

I called last gain last week a trap
This time I call trap again
Someone please tell me I wrong
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin

Buy the physical, and do not keep it in a bank or safe deposit box.  It will be confiscated.
If you do not hold it, you do not own it, and owning  paper substitute means nothing.Crypto market is been manipulated because of they news surrounding it's growth, when a top personality says a bad news that concern crypto eventually you have to see they effect or when there is hacks also they market drops

I will tell you about the fact that the price can be manipulated and about the full manipulation, I am a bit uncertain because the whales have the power to shift a big amount of Bitcoin from one exchange to another and thereby lowering the demand for Bitcoin to a reasonable percent is short time but the remaining users, if do not respond to the change in the values and rather stick to the initial strategies, can actually help the market overcome the effect endorsed by the manipulators. So the price cannot be fully manipulated.

It is not "fully" manipulated. I mean people can try to manipulate it and we saw that with the "short futures" that whales of usa actually decided to sell their bitcoins to use that as capital to buying short futures and combining short buys and bitcoin sells they made even more than hoping it will go up. All of which means it was manipulated however if they could they would change the price to 100$ , they have power to manipulate it only so far.

I think that there are a lot of factors which influence the coin prices, btc is of the great demand and its popularity is one of the determining factors which affect the price . it will increase in the nearest future

From my point of view, we are in the third quarter of this year, and from this moment , the market seems to release, so it is normal to see the price going up at time like this. Even though whales might have certain impact on the market, I don't actually think they could fully manipulated the price

Actually this is really shocking to hear from you. People are always blaming bitcoin to be manipulated for so long time and yeah this blame is right. There are investors we call them whales that are always making impact on market. They always try to manipulate the market. Many times they just get succeed and sometimes pole don’t listen them. But this isn’t god in bitcoin’s mark.

Definitely, there is whales impact on the market because most of the holder will always manipulate the market according to their benefit. It will be beneficial to people who are holding the coins in long term will always get most benefits from these when the price starts increasing.

Well about the price manipulation, I think there is manipulation but about the fully price manipulation I am not so sure because the price of the crypto cannot be fully manipulated. Think about the market factors as well. If there were fully manipulation of the price, we would have no fluctuation in the factors like demand in the changing market condition.

Furthermore, the quantity of coins the whale use to affect the market is far low than the quantity of coins held by the remaining users so in one way the effect of manipulation could be subsided if the rest of the users play the game well.

Their is no doubt that in the cryptocurrency , prices are manipulated by the whales and the big guys that have a lot of funds but for the exchange registrations, its not related to price manipulation as they couldn't keep up with the registrations.

So in other words do you mean to say that market forces surpass the effect that is caused by the people who manipulate the prices? Actually the ratio of the whales manipulating the price of crypto in market is far below the number of users and the consumer behavior in market and investor’s behavior in the crypto market can overcome the effect caused by the manipulation of prices if there had been more knowledge about the crypto among the users. Following a good strategy plan helps overcome abrupt fluctuation in the market.

The market conditions say that the Bitcoin has a bad time for those who have invested and are now in loss as the market is down by price currently. The solution to make conditions favorable is to invest more and more so that the buying rate increases and the price activates to follow the increase trend. Market manipulation is important otherwise situations will get more worst for those who have coins and are now in loss.

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I disagree completely, nothing like that is happening at all, what we are seeing is the old holders getting even stronger, all of those new investors that entered the market at the end of the year were completely slaughtered by the crash in the market while the holders are now buying their coins for a discounted price, after all it seems very unlikely that a bunch of new investors outsmarted the holders in their own game.

I believe you misquote what Arpon said cause he/she was referring to old holders that sell off their holding during the last ATH and new investors who bought during the last ATH sold their holding at lost price to the old holder. Which is why he/she mention 'redistributing of bitcoin'.

I guess the "whales" have enough funds to shake the crypto exchange markets significantly. If the price will fall below the support levels, the stop-loss orders will be triggered and the price of crypro currency will fall even deeper. Then people will be very nervous and probably start to panic sell. So the "whales" controlling some mass media can ignite a strong volatility on the crypto exchange markets. My answer is yes, the price is almost fully manipulated by the large investors.

For the manipulation of price in favorable direction we need further investment in the current market once the buying rate increases then we will have a market of high value. It would be better if we see this improvement in the upcoming days because we have a lot of coins and now it needs a high market to enrich us with huge profit for which we are struggling here.

im sure there is too many speculator but i believe it is impossible to controle %100 because there is too many factor and crypto space is pretty huge .

Sometimes they are but yeah sometimes they are just straight. People have got habit to often blame whales and other big investors for any single or little drop in price market. However, this isn’t right thing. You are always be smart and keeping things according to your plan. This plan must consider all the exceptions and alterations that can happen unfortunately.

I do believe that price is manipulated in the market and this is not the pure price that results from the market forces but I am not very sure about the fully manipulation of the prices because in the market, the market forces also control the charts and affect the price. Also the influence of the Whales on the price can be controlled by the consumer behavior towards the disturbance that results form the activity of Whales.

I don't think it's was manipulated,  it's just the normal demand and supply of it

Big whales can manipulate the price of Bitcoin, no doubt. But there are other factors as well IMO, which caused the dump this year.

I personally do not think, that closing the registrations were part of the market manipulation, it was simply too many new candidates, which they could not handle.

The market of crypto-currency is not as large as many people can imagine. At the moment, the Market Cap is only $ 270,556,214,626. Therefore, whales with their billions are very easy to manipulate the price. They do this through news, fluctuations in prices and their influence on certain exchanges. But this is reality. In our world, control is exercised by those who have more money.

Big investors or just simply the whales would really made such impact on the market price if they would decide up to a same path or motive. They can really head up into those points where they do able to snap out stoploss of retail traders which can definitely create a panic. When the market dumps too much then they would took that opportunity to purchase very cheap coins and tend to rise up the market once again or being hyped up.

I think crypto market is not fully manipulated because there's so many circumstances that's why crypto market experience of down trend. But still manipulation will not gone in any investment or trading. Sometimes the cause of always changing the price is some bad news that may affect in the market.

I believe that you can see that the crypto market with very low capitalization is only over $ 200 billion and is not controlled by any country, so the bitcoin and altcoin prices are being manipulated. is very easy to understand. So this is a very high risk market, you should only short-term investment and trading day, should not long-term investment.

This is an unregulated market in early days and it can be easily manipulated. When total market cap reaches $ 1-2 trillion
it will be not so easy for Whales to manipulate the market anymore.

Some of the prices are obviously manipulated by whales or some shtty telegram group that will leave you rekt. And they will gather profit. Manipulation of prices are mostly done by whales. They don't know how the people will feel once they lose their money. They only care about theirs.

Of course yes. To date, not many people have huge amounts of bitcoins. I don't believe that they just believe in bitcoin and that's why they accumulate it. I think that the main reason for this accumulation is money. With so many coins, they can easily affect the price of bitcoin, and the price of bitcoin in turn affects the price of all the altcoins. We are just a crowd of people for them, from which they draw money. And only the best of us have learned to earn money in this market.

Manipulating the price is mostly done by the rich people and that is what they do.

I not sure about closing new registration member related with market manipulated. It's like them prepared to upgrade their capacity for more transaction on their exchange so they need to upgrade their service and maybe they close new registration for a while and open it again when their ready. I think this is for good service because so big risk when exchange run with limitations and sometime some hits can make their fault dan come so many security problem than.

Regarding exchange registration limit was normal, and I think it wasn't because of price change,
rather, it was because exchange platform can't handle too many users, might be because of safety
issues and so on.

That's all about cryptocurrencies. Manipulation is unavoided no matter how bad you want it to follow your opinion. Let's hope for your luck. Be hopeful!

Part of said yes and part of me said no. I don't really know because I never dug deeper about that.

But if it is a yes, I hope they start pump it soon  ;D

I think one of the reason is manipulating the price of bitcoin is fake news about bitcoin that spreading over the world and the investor doesn't like that and the elite people that buy thousands of bitcoin could make bitcoin manipulate.

Only the sharks manipulate the fixed time, not the full time they are manipulated. According to me, the market is nowhere to be seen in the sharks' hands, so the prices are constantly decreasing.

I think what is important for you as a trader is not to worry about the existence if manipulation rather, use your own knowledge and workings of the market to increase your holding and have s profitable trading !

Most of the times these are nothing but rumours and you must not believe in them.

there is a possibility that the recent crypto price movement has indeed been manipulated by the big players, they deliberately drop the bitcoin price so everyone panics and throw it away

i don't think so . in the bull market. bitcoin prices are rising. investors have increased significantly. the exchange cannot accommodate so many new users. All they close the new user registration. this is not an act of operating the market.

the exchange cannot accommodate so many new users. It's like them prepared to upgrade their capacity for more transaction on their exchange so they need to upgrade their service and maybe they close new registration for a while and open it again when their ready.

There is manipulation in the market that is correct but even if the manipulation in the market is as big as many people think there is nothing we can do, you need to find a way to deal with it, this is why many recommend holding your coins, if you have been holding for a year you have profits and anyone holding for a period longer than that have profits as well, only those that have been holding for 8 to 9 months are at a loss but if they keep holding they will turn a profit in the next years.

The price of every coins is maniulated in some sence. Retain traders can move markets with low liquidity for a short period of time, but it's a market maker who orchestrates the pumps.

Definitely yes. The crypto currency market is completely manipulative. This is an area that can't be regulated, so everyone can do whatever they want. Accordingly, who has more money, he can manipulate the price.

Not all altcoins but I think Bitcoin is fully manipulated, whales are the one who manipulated bitcoin price, one factors that could manipulated crypto coin is the news and other articles about the coin and the community if the team or developers are active in endorsing their project.

I think - of course. There are whales that regulate the price depending on their interests. So there is no doubt that the market and the prices on it are manipulative. We are just ordinary people who have the opportunity to earn in this area. So we can only adjust to the situation on the market and learn to profit in different situations. With this understanding and knowledge, it will be much easier for everyone to find their own ways to earn money.

I think it is only manipulated when the price go down but not when it goes up. So it is just halfly manipulated. The news and media plays a lot on reaching the people to get affected easily by FUD byt they aren't so good in pushing the prices up. Even the whales cannot lift the price for a long time.

I do not think, the price would be 100% manipulated, but it can be infulenced easily by whales for sure.

I don't agree with the " fully manipulated" term becaun if whales has big holds of btc but I think common btc holders are many than the btc whale holders, yes whales helps btc rates to move up and down but not totally that they manipulated btc price.

Do I believe manipulation? Yes, because of whales. I dont think that exchanges have a big impact on it.

Yes the whales are the one who manipulates the crypto currency market but all happens because of the short term investors and panic sellers and the benefits goes for the whales.You need to keep your own goals and don't follow the bitcoin price chart then it will end the manipulation a lot.

We observe ups and downs in the price of Bitcoin resulting after any change happen to the demand rate, price increases when it increases and vice versa. The current market situations show that we need further investments or to improve the buying rate which can improve the value in positive direction otherwise we will live in such market which is boring and is brown as it took a lot of time so we need to get rid of such situations.

As soon as Bitcoin is manipulated mostly by the whales, it affects the price of the altcoins. when BTC price is going up, the alts are gaining and vice versa.

Only in the first six months of 2018, due to manipulation of the exchange rate using the "pump and dump" scheme, the trading groups were able to earn $ 825 million, according to the report of the Wall Street Journal. In the course of the study, experts analyzed 175 schemes involving 121 crypto-currencies. As an example of the "pump and dump" scheme, analysts considered the altoin Cloakcoin

The price for crypto currencies is controlled only by people, since they determine the demand. I think that there are no conspiracies and in fact everything is much simpler and lies on the surface. Most likely the prices will start to rise again in September.

I think if you believe that price dropping is because of manipulation, then it must be also manipulated when.it increases. IMO, it's a market cycle.and will pass like others before.

For me YES, there are many big people behind this manipulation. Specially those people that is really rich, and planning to start to invest in cryptocurrencies. I really believe that manipulation of the price of Bitcoin still effective but it will not be effective forever, bitcoin will become fully decentralized soon.

Interesting theory, but I think the reason behind closing the registration was simply, that their infrastructure were not ready to treat that many users.

Crypto is still a small market and highly manipulative and unpredictable. I think that one of the reasons for it is
that whales manipulates the market with huge capital and fake news.

Well obviously it is manipulated but not fully. Saying that it's fully manipulated would mean that there are no other aspects affecting the price movement aside from whales. A lot can and is affecting btc price.

Yes I do, I do think that whales is manipulating the price all the time and we are just figures on the chessboard, so everything is hopeless for us because you're just a hamster being cut, we need to be very flexible to survive.

As long as internal governance of Bitcoin exist, i believe the price is highly manipulated. I am pretty sure they are the sole deciders on when to cause the price to appreciate and cause it to depreciate.

For me, yeah this is always a manipulation that is happening right now in market. bitcoin is independent and anonymous coin, but it is always being trapped under umbrellas of investors. We often call them whales and these whales are so powerful that they can make the market move up or down with their one single action. To some extent this profitable to bitcoin too as this makes it popular worldwide.

There's are no basis and there no evidence accussing of exchnage close for new member to manipulate the bitcoin price  in the market, either the platform closing for awhlie for the new members are need to upgrade the system to give better service from all users.

the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position...concerning exchanges closing registrations,that's normal because the exchange platform can't handle infinite members because hosting limited performance they had to close the registrations to expand their capacity of members by upgrading their servers.it's not really a manipulation from exchanges.are kind of manipulating the market we've seen this many times now a whale sold his coins and a huge wave of sells followed him....

Don’t believe in everything you hear as there are a lot of hummers that just float around.

I think that there is a certain possibility of such scenario but actually it is too difficult to accurately perform such control of price.

No, I don't think so at all. It is manipulated by news, economical pressure etc. But not by exact powerful persons because this is just impossible.

manipulate? yes of course. i believe there are strong team behind price manipulation to catch little trader like us. and who can do that is whales that be 1 community. and i believe their money is a lot

I don't think that but I will say that price is partly manipulated with the news that are going on, usually those news are affecting the price positively or negatively, and there are some people who are creating news.

Unfortunately, very often, the situation on the market and the price of the cryptocurrencies depend on the activities of these so-called whales. when they sell everything, BTC falls.

- And you should know that the source of news and economic pressures, plus a number of other factors, it is always under the control of a team, here people often say a group of whales, they constantly bring the market the wrong direction, deceiving others so they can make money. This is very clear, you just need to regularly observe, they control and manipulate prices extremely wisely, create fake situations and news, new people will never realize, they always feel it is only results from news and economics

Although there are many news that crypto prices can be manipulated but I think that is a coin or a token that marketcap is still small, it will be difficult for anyone to be able to control bitcoin that has a marketcap of more than $ 120 billion.

Yes market is manipulated by the exchanges and miner. Miner are the main source of bitcoin and transaction getting confirmation. Apart from that their are some institutions who are also responsible as they create fud of bitcoin news and fluctuating the prices for example recent news of ETF inclusion of bitcoin made market go up and when the news came of still no response market corrected back.

Obviously it will be always manipulated by the exchanges and miners because they are part of the cryptocurrency industry and if you want to earn profit then you should always wait for the price to increase and have more patience about the market prices.

However, this is the fact - the price of Bitcoin is manipulated by those people, who hold the largest part of all the cryptocurrency. As BTC affects altcoins, it can change the situation on the market.

The price of crypto possible to manipulated by whales only, because crypto has low market. Market cap of BTC is only about $ 100 Billion and compare with stock market like apple that has $ 1 trilliun . We have seen the price of popular crypto going up by the same times  because whales use bot to make buy order. We know if  there are many early adopter  have athousand BTC , and if that amount they sell to the market will make big impact with the price.

In this new market where it's deregulated ofcourse yes. Trading regulations were implemented in the traditional ones for this one of many reasons. The question now is how you're going to capitalize that and ride with it. But if you're on the other side, too bad.

Just do the opposite of the crowd thinking you can win in this market. Most people in this market are showing more panic selling and this is a very good opportunity for people to buy right now because I am sure the price will rise again and the price may be higher 2017. I'm sure it will happen in 2019 and people just hope Cryptocurrency

Maybe just a liitle bit but even the small possibility of price manipulation could make investors wary and reluctant to put their trust in cryptocurrencies.

People simply can not explain why the price of the crypto currency is moving that way and that is why they are trying to explain it in every way and are looking for conspiracies in everything. Prices are controlled only by people and by no one else.

Speculators were likely behind the huge run-up in cryptos last year. Many protraders says Tether is used to provide price support and manipulate cryptocurrency prices.

Right now, with $200 Billion marketcap, Yes, price is pretty much manipulated.

Whales don't have patience to wait for a bullish period to make any decent profit. So, they usually manipulated the market which goes against the majority market sentiment and this way they ruin trades of majority and earn profit out of them. Unless you are good at cutting losses at right time, try to trade with less volume in such markets when is dearth of new volume in the market.

The price growth in the end of last year was simply not natural, the hype, and the FOMO took away the sense of reality of many paople. Would not blame the exchanges, big whales maybe.

Yes, I agree with you! I also think that the price is controlled by speculative actions and manipulation of good news :)

Any sudden change in the demand factor brings decline in the price of any coins or currency as this is the major factor for which we are responsible. When we leave our mistake that is to sell out coins in low market after observing a little increase in price and we sell for little profit. This is irrelevant if we look for little profit instead of looking for high profit we do this mistake that is compelling the market to go down again.

But I think that now it is becoming difficult for them to manipulate the bitcoin price. I think that the current decrease in bitcoin price is only because of some bad news in the market and hopefully very soon bitcoin price will reach too much good.

I think it's the whales who is one of the responsible of this price manipulation, they are holding a huge volume of bitcoin. People who spread fud are also the reason, they make holders sell their coins and the price will go down, after that many will buy again.

There was a huge corelation between printed Tether and BTC price increase. The growth of the market was indeed not natural and all cryptocurrenciec where extremely overpriced.

The closing of any new accounts is not connected with the price manipulation at all.

Price manipulation is directly related with the number of participants in the market or the demand rate; change in the number of participants alters the prices. Do not make decisions on just hope for near or quick recovery of market price as we have been observing the little increases and then downfalls which are repeating it self. So we have to decide for considering to look for benefit only which is to buy more coins at this stage.

I find it hard to believe that someone is influencing the price so hard. I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just unlikely.

I believe the cryptocurrency market is always manipulated by wealthy investors. Many coins are heavily priced and fluctuate according to the speculators as well. Because the market is so small, so much easier to manipulate, I hope that when the market is mature enough it will not happen again.

I don't find that strange, thery were overoaded with thousands of wannabe BTC holders. Ad for the manipulation, I am afraid there are huge speculators able to be market makers and impose market cycles, sucnh as bull and bear markets.

Yes, there is a manipulation but not fully manipulated wherein they are controlling the price all the time or buy and sell all the time. It is just that the ones who are holding the big amount of coins would initiate the movement of price so that the retail investors/ traders would pick up the news that there is something happening with the coin so they would buy or sell their coins and then those big holders would eat those orders.

When the market is bearish, they would push the price lower making the holders worry and panic sell so that they can buy the coins at a cheap price. When they want to sell, they would organized a pump and then later on when the price is high enough, they would dump it to the buyers again and then price would just plunge down but they already have profits since they sold at the top.

if that's true manipulation of the whales, I just hope the pump price will be repeated again at the end of this year? is that possible? seeing the bitcoin market is very easy to lure to flare up, I think it's very possible. just like a few days ago, when prices rose very fast to $8200, is that manipulation?

It is manipulated but not totally. Everyone of us holds the cryptocurrency and we are the one that will make the decision whether we sell it or not. There are also manipulation that happens in the market and we cannot avoid it. But as a wise trader, we should not be dependent on the current move of the price so that we can prevent of losing much of our investment.

in my opinion, the price of bitcoin at the place of exchange cannot be manipulated, the price depends on the buyer, seller and some news of the cryptocurrency in some media, usually when there is bad news and there is good news that will trigger buyers and sellers to carry out bitcoin price movements.

Even if the market is manipulated which indeed is by the big whales that does not mean it is a bad thing. This is the reason why we still have bitcoin with us or else it might have gone for a long time now. Big investors supported bitcoin in its dark times and they are the ones who get benefit at the end because they stay with their assets. Whales are good for digital market.

I think the price of the coins or investments in the market is not fully manipulated
because they are still following what are the rules regulations under the law of this kind of issue although they are a little of possibility.

The price of a crypto currency can not be fully controlled by anyone. Whales can plan and conduct joint actions, this can periodically affect the price of the crypto currency, but nobody can fully control it. In general, it is decentralized.
It seems that the burst of bitcoin prices in December last year was caused precisely by such joint actions.

I'm thinking that those who are having a big amount of money here are trying to manipulate the price but we are still having many of different other factors that would affect the price besides them.

A small few people own a lot of the btc supply, just keep this in your mind, while most "average joy investors" are panicing right now and selling, as they think we will go lower, many "smart investors- or whatever you want to call them" are buying this panic, so I see more manipulation in future, but dont get me wrong, once the masses arive this will taper off

Price manipulation belongs to those investors or traders who have coins in large quantity that will manipulate the market when they sell at once.

On the other hand if some people have lots of money and they buy Bitcoins in large quantity then the market will manipulate in upward direction. We mostly observe it in the Bitcoin because of its high potential and people are welling for it to invest with any amount.

Yes, the bitcoin price is fully manipulated.
Only 3 entities hold 50%+ of the voting/mining power (check http://arewedecentralizedyet.com (http://arewedecentralizedyet.com)).

Take the recent events, for instance.
1) The market cap gets below $200B, the whales make money on holders.
2) Many short-term leverage traders bet on bitcoin getting lower.
3) The whales come and make the market bounce back to the upward direction. Now the whales make money on the shortists.
4) The market continues to go down, the whales continue making money on holders.

The end of the story.

The volume is not too large and that is usually the general scenario.

no longer all altcoins however I assume Bitcoin is absolutely manipulated, whales are the one who manipulated bitcoin fee, one factors that might manipulated crypto coin is the news and other articles approximately the coin and the community if the team or builders are active in endorsing their mission.

Bitcoin is easy to manipulate as it is a small market and its capitalization is only $ 200 billion. I believe that if there is a large participation of all big investors from the stock market then surely the price will be less manipulated. Personally, I am waiting for the ETF to enter the market because if this fund appears, the price of Bitcoin can increase very high and can be stable for a long time.

It's possible, considering the price is so influenced by news, and there's a few whales out there that can probably help manipulate the price. One thing to think about... what if there was an AI designed to take over BTC? It could create multiple accounts, and slowly accumulate coins, trade amongst each other, manipulate the price, take over the world, etc.  :o

The Cyberius team.

You might never know if the currency was manipulated or not.

I am never thinking about price who is his fully manipulated because I am always analysis price in this cryptocurrency market. Before invest, I am analysis too many time. I know very well if I want to make a profit what should I do so if you want to make some profit you have to recharge again and again with any kind of token. As I know recently several tokens going to scam so be careful before investment. When you see the market is not pumped so on the time you don't start day trading.

In my own opinion, the price will never be manipulated because the market is depending on supply and demand and that is the reason why you should invest every time the prices is dropping and have patience to wait for the price to grow again.

I think the principle of demand and supply affect the manipulation of the price of the coin in the market. if demand is high trust me, price of a coin will surely go up high.. but if demand is low dumping set in to create opportunity for individuals to purchase some coins for keeping. There is therefore no market manipulation without the principle of demand ad supply.

Cryptocurrencies like bitcoin have grown in popularity in large part because they can be bought and sold without a government or other third party overseeing everything. But there’s a flipside: Unlike in markets for other assets such as stocks or bonds, it makes it much harder to uncover price manipulation and fraud.

Traders have been manipulating the cryptocurrency markets since day one. In bitcoin’s earliest days, it and the altcoins that existed on a handful of illiquid exchanges were ripe for pumping, dumping, and then pumping again. Coins were won or lost in a heartbeat which, back then, were worth buttons. In hindsight, traders should have just hodled, as those $1 litecoins proved to be worth a whole lot more five years down the line (feathercoin and terracoin not so much).

Every second of every day, traders are trying to game the system and steal whatever advantage they can over their peers. Whales creating fake sell walls to psych out the market; Twitter traders taking positions before shilling the coin as an undiscovered gem; FUDsters FUDing; bots buying; wash traders washing. Everyone’s at it, and while most people aren’t breaking the law in the pursuit of profit, there’s a case for saying that manipulation should simply be accepted as part of life.

Yes,  supply and demand affecting market prices but it won't make manipulation on it. 
We may think that, the ups and downs event in the market made by some groups of people who are manipulating it. But we can't point it out who are they,  and besides we are in decentralized market which means there is nothing controlling it.

I do not believe on price manipulation as well, the market will drop or pump depending on the investors so all you need is patience to earn more profit.

The whales do whatever they want to do, and they can easily manipulate the market. The other day the information appeared: a whale sent 18,000 BTC on BitMEX wallet.

Yes i agree on that. Big whales has really the capacity to manipulate the market price of the crypto. That are really a group of people that has a big amount of money or has a big amount of holdings, so if they wanted to make the price dump or maybe pump they can easily make a huge buy or maybe sell and I believe that it has really a direct effect on the market place.

No, I don't think that it is possible for price to be manipulated fully, of course big operations and whales have their influence but that can't be called "manipulation" in my opinion.

The closing of the registrations might not be the best thing and I do not agree with that.

I believe it depends because some of the powerful person use their power to manipulate what they want to happen because sometimes the price are not manipulated because it is still depend on the law of the demand.

Most individuals who understand manipulative economics know how volatility of the bitcoin prices could present a rich ground for manipulation. As traders around the world continue to embrace bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, you need to study the market capitalization.the trends do not require in-depth analysis to identify suspicious trading activity. The unprecedented regression on the market prices is a critical feature of the market. There are traders who control the prices directly. When they quit trading, the market prices plummet beyond belief.

I don't think it's fully manipulated, but I'm almost sure whales should take part in certain manipulation, of course, IMO.

I know less about the market that opens and closes the registration. Whether it's due to a large number of traders in a market or it is their manipulation? I think the decline of the bitcoin correction only. However, I also do not know when the end of a very long this correction.

Agree I also think so, I don't think that prices are forever or fully manipulated by the whales, maybe at some time the price is normal,
and I think manipulation is not an easy thing especially with a very large marketcap like in bitcoin market, of course the whales will have difficulty manipulating..

I'm with you, guys. I don't think the whales are capable of manipulating the entire market either. But I think they are trying hard and even might be through this forum by having their slaves type misleading posts to scare traders/hodlers off BTC.

Virtually nobody can manipulate the price of bitcoin. However, in practice, we see that periodically such control takes place. We must agree that the December increase in the price of bitcoin to $ 20,000 was possible with the participation of joint actions of whales. Those who have at their disposal a lot of crypto currency, can fully calculate the consequences of their specific actions to buy or sell significant quantities of crypto currency. This, by the way, we can say on the example of the actions of Mt. Gox from Japan, which by three batches of bitcoins of about six thousand, put up for sale on the market, completely lowered its rate.

Some altcoin and token that has low cap is easy to manipulate the price by whales but for Bitcoin that has highest cap will be difficult to manipulate it. Since BTC tradeable in 2011 the price already has high volatility, been going up 10 to 20 times just a few month but also going down to 90%. Now we should learn more from historical price of Bitcoin to predict when best times to buy and when best times to sell it.

I think price includes a lot of factors and many of those factors are beyond the control of a particular group of people. Thus, although price could be (and sometimes is) manipulated, but not 100% manipulated.

Whales can not be purchase off a week. They need to keep cost near with down and  to made a visibility stagnation.  In this moment they have a small purchase.

Some time it become out of the control of the ordinary people, but the big whales get control over it. I think that we need to take care and should prevent ourselves from the net of such whales, whose aim is only to trap the small fishes and swallow them whole.

For me yes. As an opinion and smart guess about what was happening on the market right now. Maybe because of Mining companies that was entering in the industry since the crypto industry before has a few miners there are small supply of volume are provided but since the BTC became popular because of its value more and more companies are entering the industry to get also a supply that causes increase of supply of BTC in high demand of people.

There are people who are manipulating the market price because they want to invest a huge amount in order to earn more profit when the market starts to pump up again in the future.

Whale is doing that. Those people that has higher capital or bought the coins  at a discounted price with a huge amount of coins. It happened to majority of coins base on my opinion  but as the distrubution is widely spread, I think we minimize this kind of scheme.

Actually, I don't think it was manipulated since the price of bitcoin is decentralized but in some possible situation it can be due to those big whales or investors as they can managed the value. Also, it some point those small investors will be affected of their huge losses in times of decreasing and may have a great amount of profit in times of increasing and I believe it may happen in the future though we don't have any idea when it may happen.

No one can really manipulate or control the whole market whales and institutional investors are just a large portion of the market merely around 50% to 60% and the other are the massive small time trader, holder and individual investor. Therefore, the manipulation takes place on our decision if we buy or sell a particular coin and which also affects the market.

Talking about the cryptocurrency manipulation, it's the whales, they're the big guys. This kind of people exist in the government and in other businesses as well.
Another kind of manipulators, people that their actions affects the market are the popular guys with much followers, even when they lie most people believe them.

Not all probably,

I Agree with some popular Crypto media people getting paid just to broadcast or create a fud

however experienced traders were also not dumb following it, like cnbc.. lol :D

they just used it to make profit also

Whales, mafias, groups, etc.. they are there, get used to it

And used them to make a profit

I think closing the registrations of exchanges was not because of the manipulation, simply it was too many newbies in the same time. But surely there are manipulations in crypto, the market still need to grow.

I don't think that the price is fully manipulated. But I think that events that cause serious market movement, usually caused by manipulation and then goes panic movement.

depending on what kind of coin it is. if the question concerns bitcoin, I'm sure that the price of bitcoin is 100% manipulated.

Their is no doubt that in the cryptocurrency , prices are manipulated by the whales and the big guys that have a lot of funds but for the exchange registrations, its not related to price manipulation as they couldn't keep up with the registrations

It is hard to tell that the market is manipulated due to many aspects to be considered in every cryptocurrency value. So speculating the manipulation on the market is not a good idea if we want the price to go up because investors might think that they are just used by the whales to leverage on their investments.

I think the price of bitcoin is not affected or manipulated because the price of bitcoin can only have the movement of buyers and sell that makes the price of bitcoin look like manipulation.

Mt.Gox is a leading threat to this market because of their high demand and can have a huge impact on the market in the long term. Personally I hate this because the market is being controlled by big financial institutions and Bitcoin prices are falling which makes investors feel depressed.

Lol you're just making it up, how do you know that the price of bitcoin is all manipulation? Do you have proof of your words? Don't say anything negative without a real proof, do you know that bitcoin has a marketcap of hundreds of millions of dollars? of course if you say the 100% price of manipulation is impossible

Yeah I am sure that the crypto market is fully controlled by some people and they affect the market very much. They decide the price for the future according to their well. They will never let small investors to make money from their investment and that’s the reason that most of the people lost their money. To see this situation people now avoid investment in bitcoin.

I think there are always manipulations where most of the manipulators on the market are private people. News and media play many things to make people affected by them.

If you see the price of bitcoin for the last six months, you will realize that bitcoin prices are fully manipulated.  All of sudden 500$ up or down movement is not natural and is surely whales buying in bulk.

Price manipulations are common in trading whether it's in stock or in cryptocurrency. The big-time traders are the ones that dictate or influence the future price of the market at the expense of the small traders. Constant monitoring the prices in the market can be a big help if you are planning to buy or sell some coins in the future. By studying how the market move even manipulators are active can help you plan your next move or strategy.

That is the real problem in crypto market. Big investors do what they want to do and small investors just waste their time and money. It Is not only in crypto market but in every field of life that big investors hold the market and small investors often lose their money due to unexpected and sudden drop in the price. This problem will never be solved.

I think whales are in full control of bitcoins and bitmex is another platform which encourages whales to manipulate the bitcoin prices to get full advantage in leverage trading.

Lmao these whales knows what they are doing, and bet me they are a group of smart-ass’s lol. Why would they pump the price when they are already knows that a lot of people are waiting for them to do so, so they can withdraw immediately and cover the losses that was caused them last time.

They would just keep calm and wait for when the media is cool about that, then you will see them get in and pump the price when everyone least expected it and make away with money again.. Lol. So if I were you I would have patience and wait for it, even if it’s next year.

I think the market is being manipulated. Traders "pump and drop" small coins, artificially inflating the price in the hope of quickly earning at the expense of other investors.

I agree that the price is controlled. This happens always, even when it seems to you that no one controls the price and some event has caused panic buying or panic selling. But it is not. Events with the help of which manipulators affect the price can also be created artificially.

If there are coins that marketcap is still small then it will be easy to manipulate, but if it is already large or at least more than $ 100 million it will be difficult to manipulate because this is very risky.

It is manipulated. The so-called whales, the people, who hold the greatest amount of Bitcoins, do it for their profits. They can easily affect the crypto market.

I am a 110% sure that the price of bitcoin is manipulated and that big investors never let small investors to make money from their investment. It is not only in crypto market but everywhere in the world. Big investors suck small investors and want them to quit as soon as possible so that they get clean chit for doing anything they want in the market.

I'm not so sure about that. Everyone think that whales control the market but to my opinion their influence isn't that big and they can't manipulate price fully, only to certain extend.
People like conspiracy theories very much and of them is that Bitcoin price is fully controled and manipulated whic is an excuse for many for bad decisions and suffered losses.

I think bitcoin will not be easy to manipulate whales, the rise and fall is due to the trading needs of many small and medium investors.

The market is being influence by the market sentiments based on simple economic law of demand and supply. Although there are school of thoughts in the crypto world who claimed that there are whales who normally manipulate the market for their own personal interest using still the law of supply and demand. They will create over supply by pumping the market with their excess coins which will push the market price down and they will buy more of the coins and hold till the effect of their action is reduced and the market now make corrections by recovering in price they will now sell of what they were holding and make some  reasonable profit.

we cannot deny that everything in this world already exists to regulate and manipulate it... at first, I refused to believe that prices were completely manipulated, but over time if we look at the charts and lethargic markets I am sure that "Pump" and "Dump" are manipulated...

Manipulation is everywhere you cannot avoid when it comes to money the manipulation is done by a large group of people or institution to make people fool and make them panic to sell their investment in cheap price, it happens not only in crypto sphere even stock market can't get rid of it. For manipulators, the utility of token doesn't matter they just think to fill up their pocket & exit with tokens & a large amount of money.

Which causes the coin to fall sharply in the market today. Has anyone manipulated the market? But how can they do that? Be financially strong and knowledgeable about the electronic money market.

I am sure that the price is being manipulated. this can be understood logically.
For example: the first 5 Bitcoin wallets, which have most of the Bitcoins.
Then the question arises: Where does the confidence that they are having an advantage, at the same time, not manipulate?

Yeah your point to be noted & i think so a number of dominating parties are elevating their fingers within the marketplace, they're seeking to reduce the costs simply so the vendor can promote their foreign exchange. rate is precise and they are in search of to earn extra. but whilst it is worrisome, it's miles the handiest, fee-powerful bits for a long time

I also think that most of the coins in this market are dominated and if you do not have the experience of investing in this market it is easy to fail. Because the cryptocurrency market has a relatively small trading volume, it is very susceptible to being dominated by wealthy investors.

No, it is not possible either. Crypto market is too big now, more than 2 Thousand coins are trading every day. Crypto market volume also very high. So, big whales can't manipulate the crypto market for a long time, though Big whales always take opportunities to make profits but they can't hold the crypto market in a downtrend for a long time.

No one can really manipulate  the price, because the crypto market is really big and no one will know on when will be the price drop down or rise, because crypto market is really unstable and it is always depending on the volume of the investors on the crypto feild. So I believe that the price is cannot be manipulated.

Cryptocurrencies are decentralized, of course this creates opportunities for anyone to be dominant and can manipulate prices, but of course it takes huge amounts of money to be able to manipulate, for example bitcoin which has now reached more than $ 120 billion so it takes at least $ 61 billion to can manipulate.

Despite this decentralization of the cryptocurrencies, the market is manipulated. As Bitcoin dominance is almost always over 50%, the whales hold the majority of BTC and control everything.

for now, I don't think bitcoin prices are manipulated. well, I feel that the price is the right price right now. all of it is purely due to need and demand. Well, when the price is manipulated, I don't think it will last long.

Yes i agree on that, no one can really manipulate he price of the bitcoin because it doesn't depend on any group of people or maybe institution that dictate the price, it is only spending on the volume of investors that invest on crypto feild.

When we see a pump and a dump on the market, it is definitely manipulation. In such cases, you need to be very careful while trading, constantly monitor the market.

Due to these manipulators investors now do not put their money in bitcoin because they understand that they will never earn money from bitcoin. Some will definitely take an advantage of the time when the price goes up but most of the investors lose their money. Manipulators are a big problem for new investors and for overall bitcoin because the price is not growing.

Seriously I witnessed the surge and that was a typical rush mentality that made everyone want to get into crypto, I remember that most persons where shut out from registering on most exchanges until market to drop considerably. However I do not think that was the cause of manipulation, I think that the market reacted to a natural cause at which it got to a peak at a period and decides to normalize

I believe that it is impossible to control everything, there is always the fact of chance. Because for every major player there is more bigger major player. And the fact that there is a man, who controls the movement of the market is an invention.

I do not think that the price is manipulated in the full sense, but I think that the manipulations made in the price of this price decline. Particularly on Bitcoin, price control is not as easy as it used to be, but it is still a bad situation that certain groups of investors still affect prices. But the free market has the advantage that there is no regulation here and it is possible to see price changes continuously.

There are tons of people in the world, same within crypto having different strategies and understanding in market trends it will really hard to be manipulated even there are devices it can't totally control the prices. It may affect a little but not fully.

The price have a control but not completely. This not possible will be sure the the market going always goes where whales want. 100% forecast is not possible, very a lot factors affecting the market.

Yes, due to many reasons the price kept declining in the market. Of course, there are some who can manipulate the prices but suddenly the prices will drop to lower already you are experienced at the beginning of this year.

I'm not really sure. However, there's been stories/rumours about Bitcoin and altcoins prices being constantly manipulated. I hear such stories alot. Nowadays, even crypto exchanges manipulates volumes and prices. So I wouldn't be too surprised if it actually is. The manipulation I'm aware of is those of whales. Whether or not it's manipulated, It's not yet been empirically investigated. Whereby creating a research gap in this area.

In most of the cases market is manipulated specially those coins which have low market cap where whales and billionaires can easily ppump the price by pouring large volume of money. if you take a look at at some coins where gaining morethan 50% in a day there is no even good news but the price suddenly surge or vice versa

At a time when we see a sharp rise in the price of a coin, and then a sharp decline, and with the news it has nothing to do, it means that the price is manipulated. The market is not completely controlled, only sometimes.

The pump and dump scheme is the best proof that market is manipulated yobit exchange is one of those who do this even in other markets like forex it can also be manipulated by rich people and big groups we cant control this its already happening years ago in financial markets its part of the system. 

Certain factors like the government intervention to alter the pattern of investment of her citizens and mess made by the Whales are the two factors that can reduce and raise the demand and supply anytime. Of course the price is manipulated in such a system and this is the reason I do not call it a decentralized system with so many influencing factors. This affects the growing market and results in huge loss to those who go for panic selling.