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July 16, 2018, 08:49:42 AM
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Isn't proven yet, but it could be possible to happen as whales trying to control prices with the used of their money. But since we are in decentralized market,  definitely it couldn't be totally manipulated nor they take control the entire market. 
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July 16, 2018, 04:25:39 PM
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There are always manipulations everywhere. Before, most manipulators in the crypto market are personally people but nowadays I can say that huge banks and the top rich people in the world are having their stakes and are also trying to manipulate it.
Most especially for a market that is driven by speculation. We all know as much as value this market creates, very few are utilizing it for what it is and most people are actually just trying to find means to get rich overnight and discarding the real value and since that is the case, it has made the market to become purely speculative, driven by FUD or FOMO, the whales trying to drive it up or down to their own advantage and we just cannot hide from it.

Even bitcoin marketcap is big, only very few people are into active trading and the number of reputed marketplaces also very less. These are the things which will help manipulators as forex kind of markets are having completely different senario compared to cryptos which means manipulations are still possible.
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July 16, 2018, 07:23:29 PM
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I believed that price manipulation is everywhere and applied to both crypto and non crypto investments like stocks exchanges. The price manipulation including conspiracy are the strategies of the big whales and some business tycoon so that they can control the market trend for their advantages of earning huges and there is nothing we can do but to ride on them with a perfect timing.
Yes may be in some cases we can say that price is manipulated but i think that with the increasing number of bitcoin such factor are now decreasing, i am hopeful that a time will come it will become difficult to manipulate the bitcoin price so much. It is in fact depending on the increasing number of investors in bitcoin world.
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July 16, 2018, 11:08:52 PM
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I believed that price manipulation is everywhere and applied to both crypto and non crypto investments like stocks exchanges. The price manipulation including conspiracy are the strategies of the big whales and some business tycoon so that they can control the market trend for their advantages of earning huges and there is nothing we can do but to ride on them with a perfect timing.
Yes may be in some cases we can say that price is manipulated but i think that with the increasing number of bitcoin such factor are now decreasing, i am hopeful that a time will come it will become difficult to manipulate the bitcoin price so much. It is in fact depending on the increasing number of investors in bitcoin world.
there are some people say that bitcoin prices can not be manipulated, and for new investors do not be easy to believe with the current negative news is much happening, we better find the actual news why the current price of crypto decreased significantly.

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July 17, 2018, 02:16:24 AM
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it might be that many people want big profits so he spread fud about crypto and makes everyone panic and sell his assets, when the btc value goes down then he will buy it and wait till its value goes back up.
but it will not be that easy, a lot of people do spreading fud but do not affect the market, maybe you have to be influencer first to do that, bitcoin in the facts will be more difficult in manipulation because the more users and the bigger marketcap, is not full manipulation right now dude
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July 17, 2018, 02:51:36 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
You are overestimating the event of registration closing. Because the crypto value is determined by the demand, it is undeniable that crypto markets could be manipulated by those who have large funds (whales), but we can only assume and will not know the exact occurrence of true or not manipulation. Bitcoin has a high volume and a very expensive value, I'm not so sure about whales that are manipulating bitcoin markets, I instead think it's more to the negative impact of the news.

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July 17, 2018, 03:06:35 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I think the market was really manipulated from the beginning. I joined the Crypto market at a time when Bitcoin's price was $ 20k and I thought this was an easily manipulated market. Its capitalization is quite small and it is often a good condition for the whale to manipulate.
But anyway, they have to sell everything at high prices and the market is up again.

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July 17, 2018, 05:56:47 AM
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They can perhaps do it but the effect is very quick when they put money and setting an order on the trading sites. I remember seeing on bittrex an order of BTC10 that is immediately inserted just to pump up the volume and the price.
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July 17, 2018, 12:55:24 PM
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They always say a lot of crap in news. CNBC fast money made a video "how to buy shitcoins tops" and dumped on people. It is maniulated. Forex markets are manipulated too.
Of course the price has been manipulated by big investors. They change the price according to their well. When they want to sell the price will jump to sky and when they want to buy the price will drop like a failed missile. Whales are the big problems for small investors in cryptocurrency. They just think of themselves and never think about thousands of small investors.


The whales can easily manipulate the market and the cryptocurrency prices. These small group of the richest people has concentrated over 90% of the crypto in their hands. Thus, in a way, we depend on them.
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July 17, 2018, 01:26:53 PM
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I don't thing so the registration of exchange manipulated are the problem the only reason for the is hacking happening about happen in korean exchanger in this past week they been hack about million USD amount of there exchange that's why bitcoin bearish run have become active.
You mean bad rumors cause prices to fall. In my opinion, crowd psychology is the main reason for falling prices. The factors that can make psychological panic then buy them or sell off are the news, the big events, the whales. Nobody has the power to control market prices, only the trend at that time
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July 17, 2018, 01:32:32 PM
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The price of the crypto currency market is manipulated by whales, and we have already made sure of this many times. However, they can not fully regulate the price in the market. A lot of people are involved in the market, in sum this is a very large amount, so they can not completely influence the market.
After going through some of the research papers, I came to know that manipulators actually exist and they can manipulate the values but not always. At times, the market simply does not respond to the fall in the demand. And even if there is a high aggregate demand in the market, the fall in the demand by the manipulators might not be so high and the effect will be a very lump sum one.
Exactly, some whales are manipulating the market, they try to lower prices so that the sellers sell their coins. Prices fluctuate and they try to make the most profit. But this only happens when people are bewildered, fearing that bitcoin prices have fallen sharply in the long run
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July 17, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
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July 17, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
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I'm hesitant to know how. But if manipulated, within the first six months of 2018 will never grow. So it can not be called manipulative

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July 17, 2018, 04:15:01 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
There is some manipulation going on that is a sure thing but it is not as big as many people think, it is impossible to fix the price of something like bitcoin, yes they have a lot of money and bitcoins to try to do that but that is not enough, people instead of concentrating in conspiracy theories they should concentrate on what they have doing wrong instead of blaming others for their mistakes.
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July 17, 2018, 04:22:14 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
What has happened since January 2018 are redistributing of bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies to the new investors because the old holders are selling off there position and new investors are buying them at cheap price.  Manipulatiors are they  in every face of business endeavour and I don't think they control the market hundred percent.



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July 17, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I fully believe in this, you can see that bitcoin is very few countries in the world recognized for the relevant laws, in addition to bitcoin is a very new field that makes it very subordinate countries. and there is no suitable plan to control.

Therefore, the price of bitcoin dominated by sharks and whales is inevitable. You can see that the market is fluctuating continuously and it is hard to predict, bitcoin prices adjust in large amplitude.
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July 17, 2018, 05:35:40 PM
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I won't claim its 100% manipulated, But yes its being manipulated by whales and some billionaires. I am sure of it 100%.

I would claim 250% that it's being manipulated. If I had that cash I would also do the same thing. You buy low and sell high, nothing strange about that.
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July 18, 2018, 11:21:07 AM
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In my opinion the bitcoin price is changing naturally due to it's market forces the prices show a change and if the demand rise the price show a rise and some time the price is manipulated by the big suppliers and the large portion of bitcoin holders have bring a steady change in the prices so it happens.
I don't think it is just a natural way, price trend today is totally different from of previous years. Market trend is pretty hard to predict since last year due to wide market manipulation created by some groups of investors. They are using their money to create changes and made crypto into more volatile which could result into losing by newly adopters.
If the prices were changing naturally then there would be no big bump in the price last year. Normal means increase with the growth of market cap. When more and more people invest in bitcoin it means that the demand for bitcoin increased and now the price will also increase but the film was different and we saw that now the price will grow more but suddenly it collapsed to the knees.
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July 18, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
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In my opinion the bitcoin price is changing naturally due to it's market forces the prices show a change and if the demand rise the price show a rise and some time the price is manipulated by the big suppliers and the large portion of bitcoin holders have bring a steady change in the prices so it happens.
I don't think it is just a natural way, price trend today is totally different from of previous years. Market trend is pretty hard to predict since last year due to wide market manipulation created by some groups of investors. They are using their money to create changes and made crypto into more volatile which could result into losing by newly adopters.
If the prices were changing naturally then there would be no big bump in the price last year. Normal means increase with the growth of market cap. When more and more people invest in bitcoin it means that the demand for bitcoin increased and now the price will also increase but the film was different and we saw that now the price will grow more but suddenly it collapsed to the knees.

You are right dude. However, we are actually talking about the manipulation of prices. And I don't think it is hundred percent being manipulated. I think those whales are the ones who manipulate the price of bitcoin. Only them have the capability to manipulate the price because they are holding large amount of bitcoin.
On the other hand, if they will not bring back the high price of bitcoin, the trust of people will continue to go down.

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July 18, 2018, 12:11:25 PM
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I'm hesitant to know how. But if manipulated, within the first six months of 2018 will never grow. So it can not be called manipulative
Manipulation isn't  a way to totally control the entire market but could affect prices. Some crypto whales trying to catch newly crypto adopters which isn't have huge knowledge on crypto investment  and mentally they never know how trading fields work.  Isn't just of today's practices, manipulation is happen already since from the start but can't we feel it.
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