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How do you guys spot scam betting sites ? Which are the red flags with those kind of sites and do you believe the rating/review sites or they are mainly paid like the ICO review sites ?

Just search in Google before playing with your money at any gambling site. All the legit site have a lot of review for their trustiness. And you can also learn about the scam site just by search in Google.

The issue with those rating sites is that they might be paid, just like ICO sites do paid reviews. You should look for user reviews from multiple sources to be sure. Also in this forum there is plenty of information regarding scams. They might be harder to find but it's better to spend some time reading instead of losing your money.

A little google search can save you from scam betting sites. If you come across a cryptocurrency betting website and you want to know about the reputation of that website, try finding its thread in bitcointalk forum. See if the thread is active and if the old members are rating it well. That is when you know the difference.

Supporting what others said about searching and googling those betting sites that you are not comfortable gambling with.

It's easy as 1,2,3 and you have to take few minutes of typing the "casino name"+ scam/review on the search engine and you'll get thousands of results but the closest ones will be on the top of that search.

I'm still believing those review sites as long as I also know the website they are reviewing but if I'm not familiar with it, still do your own review for that website.

The easiest way to spot a scam is to browse through gambling related forums and message boards, and ask the forum members what they think of a particular online casino. They will tell you. I'm talking about large online gambling forums like gpwa.org

With the current use of technology it's very easy to create a fake site, a fake generator and fake testimonials. You can even buy google reviews so the only way I'll trust a site if it's here, and many members excluding newbies have posted proof they made money. Honestly I prefer to stick with the tried and tested sites. If any site is giving unbelievable bonuses it's a scam, check domain registration that should help.

I agree with the domain check here. There are tools as well provided to us to check the domain's registration or if they opt to be hidden, then there's something wrong with it. Just be careful with review sites because some of them are paid so obviously they will vouch for it. So due your due diligence and be careful and used your common sense. You might try to deposit small funds and see if you can withdraw it.

I would make sure to have a few google chrome extensions perhaps to improve security and avoid the worst types of clone sites that try to look legitimate but are just false copies.

Google iobit for a general toolkit and that comes with an extension for surfing.
'https everywhere' is another extension to use, works in firefox and opera too

basic tip would be not to goto the site directly but enter it as a text string into a search engine.   This will correct or sometimes show a warning if its well known as being misleading.  Of course also manually ask about a site.
If you do gamble somewhere near, start off slow and only really increase after a week or so if you are happy and have cleared withdraw etc

Yes, this is what I do and not only for playing sites but also for the software I want to download or suspicious emails too. I try to check if there have not been anybody scammed by a particular site or service.

Well I'm not sure there is a lot of things you can do. You could try to see if the gambling site has a license, but to be honest I never do that, because I'm not even sure I could trust the information provided, and I don't really know how to check if the files they show are true or not.

I guess your best way is to search for a support page that has a lot of active users, as well as a company representative, replying to users requests. You can check what users are saying there, and what type of issues the site might be having.

Searching for review sites is also a good option. And yes, some sites could be paying those page owners, but they are probably not doing that on every site, so check a lot of reviews, and start crossing information between them.

None of those things can guarantee you will avoid a scam site, but it will help. If it's a new site, then you should probably test it with caution, with low amounts of money, and see if they manage to build trust in the community.

By the way, if you will go into sportsbooks sites, you can check this thread for reviews and ranks. Remember you should cross the information from this thread, with information from other threads, and other review websites, for a more accurate view on how the gambling site is.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0 (Sports books rankings)

I think it's easier to spot the good ones than it is to spot scam gambling websites.
Good websites will have very few scam reports on websites where you can somewhat trust the review, such as this forum.

I'd stay away from looking for 'reviews' on websites that have affiliate links. Best to use websites that allow individual users to post their own reviews.
Also look at how the reviews or scam reports are written. I can imagine there are some false reports out there, made by the competition or users who've broken the rules or something.

I'd go with the big-name casino's in the crypto world. I just wouldn't trust any new website at this point in time, just because there are enough trusted established gambling websites out there.

What he said basically, plus, what else a new casino can offer anyway. A new game? Nope. They only come up with some new gimmicks but at the end of the day it's all the same. Some sites are doing giveaways and freebies or some bonus if you deposit x amount so they will be more appealing than trusted gambling sites but honestly it's what makes them so fishy as well. Why would a gambling site give out x amount of money just for depositing? They are just giving you a reason to deposit to their website.



I mean, review sites get paid by new websites if they think that the review site will give them a good traffic. On the other hand, it's usually the review sites that are trying to find new websites that they can review so they can have a deposit link which is mainly how they make money aside from getting paid directly by the website so their site will get reviewed. But of course that does not guarantee them good feedback and a review site which gives good feedback in exchange of money is fishy too so you might wanna find a review for the review site as well.

There are betting site scamming the people but all the sites are not doing the scam mate. Please check the review sites available to check which is really caring the basis on the crypto related usage websites bro.
If you want to find the scam website you may here find the review and complaints about the scam on the concern gambling site. If you see the bad about them you need to keep them and understand that they are scam.

There are many ways to find out. For people who have a certain intelligence, they can detect it from the beginning and for people like me, who aren't familiar with things that are too complicated, see reviews of people who have come and use the site, will be enough . This forum provides many things including information about the level of trust of an online gambling site.

Expand reading the history of a site that will give you a bit of a conclusion on the belief in the gambling site, looking for information on the internet is strongly recommended because there are so many people who provide input or information scam or not, I strongly recommend choosing a site that is already proven good and has been widely used by most people not to look for sites that do not know for sure its existence, usually in view scam site quality is not too fancy tend not intention in the making.

You can also do a little bit of research on Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) or use the forum by using it's search box.
Some ratings are legit but few maybe not. Spotting a scam betting site is easier for newly launched ones.

There are already lots of discussion about how to spot scam gambling sites, you can look through it or you can get suggestions in here. As you mentioned ratings/reviews are also part in which to see if the site is legit or not but sometimes this reviews are not legit and just forged by them so make sure that you read thoroughly the reviews. Also, another place you can ask is here in the forum many people do gamble and probably they can help you see if the website that you are interested in is legit or not. There are many ways to check you just need to do some research.

Get familiar with the system they use to generate seeds and find out if their randomness really is random as they claim. Start discussions and see what other people have to say and if they can prove any scam activities like not allowing withdrawals or come up with crappy rules just to delay big withdrawals, etc.

since I only bet with bitcoin sites I don't even bother with google , google had and will always have mixed reviews which can mislead the readers but checking the forums here should give more than enough info about different sites
the main problem is when a new site appears , but it's easy when the site has been around for over 2 years

You can google it to search and to know if that site you are entering is legit or not, you will know from there if you are taking a risk but with benefit or without benefit if you win or lose.

You have good answers, so I would just add:
- Never login to a site with an account used in another platform or a personal email.
- If on a site ask you for making a deposit to be allowed to withdraw, probably this is a scam.

And of course, the other basics: make a research first.

Honestly the best way to spot a scam is to look for reviews about the site that you are trying to gamble in, and not just any reviews because some sites could be paid for fake reviews, you should only trust reviews made by people on social platforms like Reddit twitter and Facebook and probably the best one is this forum, because if a gambling site is using bitcoin or their own cryptocurrency, they would probably have a topic in here or at least posts about the site from other people.

It does not have to be a rating site, there are forum like this that even when you search on Google, you will be directed to, so as to be able to get other people's opinion about a place to gamble or not to gamble. One way or the other, there must have been those who would have shared their experience in a way after being scammed so that others will know it is a pure red flag.

It is better to always stay safe than sorry and I do not feel it is a hard thing to find unless you just want to go with a site that others are not paying attention to which obviously would add no value additional to your gambling anyway.

Some practices you can do:

a) Do self research and used common sense.

b) Poor layouts (can't be a scam but surely it's not the gambling site you want to take your money).

c) Asked others.

d) Stick with those gambling sites who already established a name. Not an assurance that you are literally safe but somehow it will minimize the risks of being scammed by choosing random sites.

Actually there are lots that will you will think automatically. Since we will put money on a gambling site, it's really mandatory to check any sides of the internet to find if that certain site can somehow be put on trustworthy list.

How do you consider the scam attempt with the honesty mate. That is the not at all workable thing bro. If you want to invest on the gambling site you can review about the site on the review site and then check that whether they have involved in the scam sites bro.
If they are paid review on the site you can check badbitcoin.org website here you see the legit information about the true and fake site.

I think gambling sites are very visible from some of the existing reviews, as gambling sites can not afford to buy reviews, and in real live, gambling sites will get good reviews if they are proven to be honest and pay

In my point of view, if I do not want to be scammed then I would just go to the site where many people are joining and betting than those with less. Most often, scam sites are those with high promising revenue and stakes that looks like impossible to have in an easy way.

Better to play in a well known gambling sites than to take risk into new gambling site. Most probably you can easily notice it if you lose too much money on that. Reviews can be scripted so most probably don’t take this as your basis to play gambling on that site.

Lol you do realise if a site is a brand new google won't help you at all as most gambling sites first have a ann thread on this forum as far as i have noticed is to ask the site to sign a message of the address where sites funds are stored. This won't be too helpful but way better than pre judgement of sites

Yeah, playing in a well organized gambling sites can lessen the risk of being scammed but to know if its a scam or not better to read more about that site and see hows the experience of the users on that site. Don't be fall easily by the reviews or details of the gambling site its good to hear the comments of every users.

Find whatever Crypto Casino you are looking for on here, read the reviews and etc, Only use greatly trusted and widely used Crypto Casinos. If it has only had like 10 post ever I would not mess with it!!!

You could just simply spot it if there are no players on their site, and their site is a shit one which looks like it was made by a child, a lot of misspelled words. The most effective way to know is to try it, use their free satoshis and made some profits with it and try to withdraw it, if you didn't receive any and it just says "pending withdrawal" then it is obviously a scam.

yes, it is better to play on gambling sites that we always visit than to search any new sites because it's too risky. and if you want to play in the new gambling site, you need to search on here or you need to read about the review of the site so you can know which gambling site is a scam or not. but unfortunately, I don't know which site that giving any information of recommended gambling site and the scam site.

I have few points to present here that may help you to avoid to getting scammed.

* if you are interesting to invest in an ICO, always triple check, make sure that the team has the ability to finish the project, make sure that the organizers are known and for good, and never fall for scams that promises you that you will get X more tokens if you invest by X date, it's usually only to gain hype and it is never a good choice.

* Scam usually sound much better then the true, if you feel like someone is trying to convince you to invest, then there is something skecthy and you should stay away.

There are plenty of sites who can be trusted when it comes to gambling, whether casino or some betting games. If you had enough research and knowledge about those sites, then you wont be easily fooled by those cheap tricks applied by fake sites. You should always do your research, find references and other feedbacks by that site you want risk money with.

First of, I don't think that reputable rating/review sites can be paid to show fake ratings, because if caught doing so they would lost their audience immediately. Speaking about the red flags, if site is a very new one and there are no reviews about it yet, that's the red flag number one for me. I never deposit on such sites whatever deposit bonuses they promise.

Overall I suggest to trust the sites with good reviews and operating for a relatively long time. On those sites you can deposit without worries, they won't scam you. But of course you should never deposit more than you can afford to lose because even on a legit provably fair site you can lose money to gambling.

There is no specific ways to spot them just really research the team, mangagers, devs, and etc. You can research for months and still get screwed you just have to find someone who has ran campaigns before!!!

You can easily spot a scam using your logical mind. If you smell something suspicious and your mind tells you that it is not the right website for you, then you can go away from it. Usually, scammers give you false hopes like for example, you can win 1 Bitcoin, you can win more than you lose. And usually, people fall for it. Added to that statement, scammers usually have no reputations. They can just start a threat using a Newbie account.

I'm usually find their community first before try to deposit my real bits. At least it can minimalize the scam attempt,right ?

I can trust Primedice for example, because I see a lot of feedback for them but I dislike to play in 999dice although they have exist until now ( shady operation backhand )

Yeah! These two things one should completely take notice of to save himself from a scam or if he will ignore these things, then he himself would be responsible for all the losses that he had to suffer. Also I want to add something to your comment because I also worked for the website which actually was a scam. They will not let you withdraw your payment and will ask you to do some illogical things that have no connection with withdrawal like adding some limit of referrals.

For me, I go for reviews about them. At least, those who might have been scammed when they used it, will not hesitate to write or rate them bad as a sign to warn others who might not use it. Even discussion in the gamblering is most times and  they aren't waste. Though, it will be a good thiny and it will be a good thing if outbay-

There is no specific way to know. but it's just so unfortunate to know  that it won't work that way you have stated it or viewed it because  emotions either good or bad  are part of human make up. No human being is born without emotions, infact, this is what makes us a living thing so we can't get rid if it totally but on the issue of trading emotions can be put in control by not acting on it. I believe this is the only way for it t.

If the site offers too many and all is obviously in favor to you, then you should be aware that it must be a scam. Some is too good to be true that some greedy people are eager to try it and fall into bait. If the site is not that popular, you should check it first before getting into it.

That's right, understand first the gambling site before you put your money because some gambling site is not a good place to have fun. If you are new here and wants to play gambling online then better to find for a trusted one, look for reviews and the team behind that site so your money will be safe.

Some of the biggest giveaways to a scam site is:

1)  Poor and improper English
2)  New accounts making promises that are uncommon
3)  When the rep refers to you as "sir" in every other sentence
4)  Cheaply designed website
5)  When they buy social media followers, likes and the related

Their outlook. Most of the scam sites just ripoffs the design from other gambling site. You will see that their page also looks unprofessional and too many typos. It will also be filled with bugs. Not to mention that most of the users over there will be fake/bot users. Also they won't show any proof of their bank roll.

I actually found a really easy way on how you can spot a scam but remember this will only be applicable to casino

Just go to Google and search fortunejack alternative, which sites pop ups i can assure you those site will scam you

The community can be fooled if you shower them with money. Faucets, referrals, signature campaigns, bonuses. If the site is fairly new and is paying a lot and advertising a lot it will have a lot of positive feedback.
I think time is the best indicator. If a site is online for years and there were no scam accusations, no stolen funds, no problems with withdrawals and not much downtime, you can trust it, even if the community isn't big and overly enthusiastic.

You don't need to worry about on how to spot a scam betting site. Just simply play on reputable gambling site and don't take a risk on a site that you aren't sure if it's legit or not. If you really want to play in newly created site because of bonus. Try a little amount or just the required amount to be able receive a bonus.

Right ,through seeing their site and read the forums you can gather some information if there is someone being scammed at that site. We should be vigilat before we play our money so we can be avoided to be scammed by that gambling site.

this is what I do in gambling games, I only play on reputable gambling site. I don't play in the new sites because I know that the site can scam me in the end. but if I really want to play on that site, I think I will search free bonus that I can take first so I can try the games without deposit my real money to play. it is difficult for me to spot a gambling site is a scam.

Even many reputed gambling sites also scammed the gamblers when they won the jackpot profit with their investment. Instead they simply be absent in the support team reply and no reply on email services too.
If we see the scam attempt such kind of we need to share it on forum mate. That is how forums members report about the scam in gambling on this forum bro.

You are very much familiar about the characteristics of a fake website like you have faces these websites very much in your life or you also are running a fake website like one of these. I am saying this because all they points that you have made in your comment are all true because I also worked on a scam once and I found everything there that you mentioned.

Google would always be our friend,pal! When it comes to searches to any informations towards the site. Spotting scam can be find out with your own common sense but sometimes we do neglect to do a proper investigation like testing out a small amount to play specially to new gambling sites. If they do paid out then its legit but if not on the very first place then its a scam as simple as that. There are indicators that you can check out on early phase before making any deposits. Ex. Site traffic (players), house edge, too good to be true offers, making guarantees, site security.

Almost all of the review sites are paid ones and hence they will write good things about them, just play in sites that are in the market for a longer period of time and i would like to see genuine reviews from users before depositing any money or i would rather test the waters with small amount of coins .Check out for phishing sites too.

Find a scam thread about that betting site in this forum, if you found some, it's better to move to other betting sites. Google search also good though, you can search the gambling site, usually there are some reviews about that betting site.

sometimes the review is also not always appropriate. because when already entered online gambling, the main problem is the payment. if playing and betting on the site, is likely to be paid. but when we bet with others online, we have to be careful about payment issues.

But you must be careful, because many people who provide false information, because it could be the owner of the website scam (fraud) or cooperate with the website of the fraudsters.

Why would someone be careful in spotting scam gambling site? I will agree here with avikz, everything we need to do is a little search about casino reputation, ans the best place for that search is here in their official thread where anyone can check their team, talk with them and to check what others wrote about that casino.
Why would we bother in spotting scam casino sites, why to do that when we can gamble in reputable casinos, there are so many of them?
Any way there is a member here game-protect, anyone can ask him about scam gambling sites, seems like he knows a lot about it.

Always a simple way to go, most especially if it is a cryptocurrency gambling site. One way or the other, someone must have talked about the site's reputation. Asides that, I would rather focus more on sites with reputation and do more research on that than trying to find an unknown gambling site that is not being used by so many. When there is a red flag to any website, the hand writing will be all over the wall but as long as people have tried it and it has been running for years without issues, what else would someone be looking for?

There are paid reviews which is part of their advertisement so it's not appropriate most of the time.

If it starts to get shady and the payments are becoming a problem that can be an indication. And if the casino didn't find a way to resolve your payment issue, you know what to say.

As simple as that. The thing however is that rather than even looking for whether a gambling site is a scam or not, why not even search for those with high reputation and stick with it? It is more like trying to find trouble by using what others are basically not using, and trying to gamble a site to use when you are already gambling anyway makes it sound like double gambling to me. The best is to see the site people are talking about and that is it.

But we cannot do anything when a well established site suddenly turning a scam. At those times, we must bear any losses. But we can save ourselves by not keeping big money with the sites at any point of time. Spotting scam will be easier after having such a friendly community but escaping from a scam will not be that easier for any gambler.

Researching about something that you are going too interested in or you would be playing that again. But don’t you think we are doing it at place. We have to rethink about our decision even from root level. Either we are putting our money in a thing, would this thing be legit? Would it be profitable for us? These scam or not things can be solved later once you finalize your field.

People's personal experiences and frustrations over being scammed would be a good consideration. Joining forums and discussions gives you an insight on what people experienced in a certain site so it can be a lot easier to determine scams. Diligence should be practiced in researching since we're talking about money here

I doubt joining forums and taking other people's opinions help the gambler to decide which site to use. You can see the amount of conplains there are currently against fortunejack and betcoin but have you seen their business slowly down, no right they are still out there and people still gamble on it

There are reviews online as some may have been a victim before and be helpful enough to share their experience which is the only way I hope would be pretty easy to be able to know if a gambling site is a scam or not. Also, you may want to just stick with what others are using and those with far better reputation than trying to gamble a site that is unknown and not well used which I feel you will be better off.

That's right, it's better to check how long they have  been in existence and then try them with little amounts first while you examine how they respond to questions from their call center, payments processing procedures and all that matters before you commit any big amount in their trust.

Most of the reviews online are the reason why people keep falling victim to same scams on the same websites all over again. Those reviews are faked and sponsored by the scummy gambling sites. I have often seen the good websites are always underappreciated and scam sites like betcoin/vegascasino/bitcasino are highlighted as the best. Bitcointalk is the only place to seek for legit reviews.If that doesn't convince you, you can always start a new thread asking for suggestions.

Making a good research is also a key point to spot a scam but I think it would be more helpful for you to spot a gambler if you would follow my advises because I also came over these scam and when I heard about these things, I came to know that I have been working with a scam since. Scam will ask you to ad referrals to your account if you want to withdraw money. 

No, guy, I am not running a scam website.  LOL

I just have a good grasp on common sense and being able to figure out what looks like a scam and what doesn't.

I've also been in this space since 2013 so I've seen all kinds of scam operations come and go.

How long they have been in existence is not even the case as some over the years may have turned out to being scam in some way or start behaving strangely.

For instance, FJ has been in existence for a while until lately when they just started withholding huge winnings and taking huge time for them to pay their users with respect to that. All these things are updated review which will help any user of such platform and those who are considering using it to know how to make the best use of such information to their advantage when making decisions.

The reviews are also part of the scam and i totally agree with you. I think the best way is to test the website with little amounts first and they prove to be reliable then you can go in for huge bets afterwards but bear in mind that "shit happens" and you shouldn't trust easily online.

When the odds are too good to be true and they are talking in "guarantees" terms, then you have to start googling that website for some feedback review because it starts sounding like a ponzi scheme in which you put money and you are told that you will have some kind of guaranteed wins. Odds must be fair at best but the house always has an hedge, otherwise it most likely is a scam of sorts.

Stick to time tested betting firms if you dont want to gamble with the place you are betting at, gambling itself is enough risk.

I think that is very short-lived scam if that happens because even if you go three months, four months, at the end of the day if it is a scam, they would exit when they have enough. For sure there are a lot of things that would be noticed if it is a scam and one of them is that too good to be true like you said.

I usually check on reviews first to know if the gambling aite is a scam. Most players who got scammed make a comment on the said site if ever they experienced it and I usually read first before joining in and registering to that certain gambling casino site.

That is a big problem. There is an industry based on these fake reviews. Most of the websites have their own team or outsource this work to post good reviews on various platforms for their website. It is very hard to find genuine reviews about gambling websites. Also, regarding bad reviews, some even go to the extent of posting those for their competitors.

Personally, I trust the reviews given by experienced members here.

We should always bare on our minds that even the most reputable gambling sites or any sites that do gives service can turn out to be a shit anytime.Thefore, as a gambler or user on such site we do always be aware on the actions we would made specially when depositing large amounts then always think of the possible risk. As a possible user we would normally seek out any informations towards the site most of the time and i do believe only a few would jump in without knowing sites history.

Reviews are very much helpful for the person to spot a website whether it is a scam or not. But w shouldn’t read only top 5 to 10 comment in this list because these reviews would be excellent as they can be from their company members and I am sure that they didn’t make any comment with which the people will get aware about the reality of their company.

However there are a lot of trusted & old gambling site for bitcoin. Why we should try new one? Why we do this? Gambling is luck. So why we should try new site hoping to win from it.

The easiest way to avoid a scam is to simply play at reputable establishments. Usually new scam sites will offer extraordinary, or suspiciously high welcome bonuses, or new player offers that just don't make sense. For example, they might give you a 0.1 BTC free bet with no major wagering requirements, or will offer you particularly bonuses for retaining your funds within the casino, so the they can eventually pull an exit scam.

Stick with the big, well known players, sure they're not necessary the most lucrative, but your money will be safe, and they tend to have the best support and games available. When it comes to your money, playing it safe is often a smart move.

That which you have said is a personal thing and has nothing to do with scam. Normally, I do not expect someone who wants to gamble not to have been able to sit out the reason why he or she is set out to gamble anyway and knowing that having the wrong mentality would set them for a very long run of sadness if care is not taken.

Nevertheless, with respect to spotting a scam, it is all just about doing some research and checking for reviews of such platforms online and it could even be applicable to anything online and not just gambling.

Always prefer the one which is existing form the long time and are trusted in the market. It is very easy for the new site to lure by showing or giving some additional onuses but forgetting that when you start putting your money they will not allow you to win and you will be losing all the money.

When there is something new in this gambling industry, gamblers are always interested to try especially if the new site looks good/attractive. The reason to try should not because of hoping to get a new luck on a new site. No doubt that people thinks like that, as I thought the same as well long time ago. I thought if I move to a new place then I will have a better luck, but the fact said the opposite.
It is OK to try a new site but we should be careful, at least do not try with too much money until the new sites prove that they are reliable and trusted sites.

It is more like some people are generally just lazy to make use of the available resources for the digital age through the search engines, or they just simply see search engines as decorations. There is absolutely no way a platform would have been running, scammed others and there would be no traces of people's review online, but instead, we just still see some people falling for it.

You guys have said it all; researching before making use of any platform is the best way to go about being careful.

I think it would be of no use if you would start checking about their existence because if they really would be a scam, they wouldn’t show you the reality and first of all, you wouldn’t get an history and if you are lucky enough to find some, they would have undoubtedly designed it in the way the wanted it to be they won’t reveal the secret.

Every person who is writing on this thread doesn’t have some sort of website which is scam because why the salesman would be at the place where all speak the truth. Just we are sharing our experiences because I am well sure that most of us would have come over with gambling some days in our lives so speaking about scam becomes easy.

Users could always check the owner of the casino gambling thread on this forum, if the casino owner account on this forum is having a lot of negative trust given by reputable users, it would be better to take caution when depositing your money and playing on the site.

That's another one and to support the search, you can use search engines if there are more accusations with the owner and his/her business.

maybe we can spot a scam site by taking a look if the site is a new site and don't have any reputation because this site potential to be a scam site. but if then the site can prove that they will not become a scam then they will have many good reviews for their site. but not all new site can potential to be a scam site because I am sure that there will be many owner gambling sites that want to make a profit from the site and from their member.

The first thing to check out for is the website to see if it does what it said it will and then look at the profile of the site, if anything seems fishy than perhaps stay away from that until you see comments/reviews about it. Or never go on it

There are two kinds of scam gambling sites for me, the first one is the tricky one and the other one is the trying hard one, so what's the difference between those two? here it goes. The tricky one is that it is just the same gambling site to a legit one, you'll not notice that it is just a scam if you are just a naive person who is playing gambling on random gambling sites but if you are going to inspect the whole gambling site you'll notice that "Oh wait this is just a scam" while the other one is that you could easily notice that something was off already, misspelled words, the site is a complete trash, and the whole site is just trashy.

That is because new sites offer free rolls with bigger prize pools, higher bonuses on deposits, greater faucets etc. Of course it's a lie in many cases and they don't allow you to withdraw anything, but if you never deposit more than you can afford to lose, why not to try, right?

However, there are some serious risks associated with trying unverified sites, so I wouldn't recommend that to newbies.

Scam can be find when the jackpot price is not being to distribute to the winner. Even many famous gambling site also does not send the fund to the people and they came here made the thread on scam acussation section to report the problems mate.

Kindly ignore the reported gambling on this forum. If you do that alone you are safe with your fund. However, you will find the loose only if you involved in gambling all the time. Keep quite whenever you get mood off guys.

You know that these ICO reviews, some of them are actually being paid to make positive reviews regardless if it shows lack of legitimacy and if it shows lack of service, a lot of people are doing this type of reviews, though I'm not saying that all reviews are paid to show the positive side only okay? But my point right here is that these reviews are not the only thing that you should check, be sure to check it for yourself also.

Don't forget the third type which is a well made scam. Creators of these sites put a lot of money and effort into the site, have campaigns, people hired to promote them, a professional team. They usually even start as a legit site but then modify something to start scamming people or disappear just like that. It's almost impossible to avoid them.
But don't worry, they are rare.

my first red flag is if it promises huge returns to its investors ,guaranteed returns when there are no apparent structure on ground already.then i look the age of their site,social media etc,scammers are always in a rush to set things up,just a few months

it helps also to learn what other persons are saying,accusations and all that,especially on this forum.it becomes apparent as time progresses,people will begin to share some of the abnormal or red flags they have seen

Absolutely right, if you are good in internet browsing and searching you can easily find and gather material about the doubtful betting sites.
To search about it in popular forums like this one is best practice, i usually do the same for finding anything related to cryptocurrencies.

the best solution is to find reviews of gambling sites that we want to use .. because it will be very important .. especially if we will gamble using large funds .. because if we choose the wrong place to gamble .. instead of pleasure and benefit we can .. but lost all the funds we have

checking out the website is one thing that we should do, while we can try to play the games on that site and, of course, we should trying to earn free coin from the site. and if the site doesn't have the faucet then we can skip and don't try to play in that site. there will be many another site that offering to the new gambler to earn free coins.

To know the legitimacy of a betting website, first thing I would do is to search for it on bitcointalk. That's the simplest and effective way to spot a scam betting website. If the website is a new one then, I will stay away from it for sure.

Exactly. The cases you've mentioned are so rare that they are not worth even mentioning. With that kind of logic you can end up trusting nobody, even with great reputation. It's enough to avoid sites with bad reviews or without any reviews at all. No need in poisoning your life with ungrounded suspicions.

I personally trust reviews and ratings on the Internet although I'm aware that some of them can be fake. I think it depends on how good you are in using Google in general.

AFAIK, there are some site that monitoring some site possibility of scamming.
Of course they are not 100% guarantee but at least they can help you to warn before you try to visit the site.

Never trust on something new especially on crypto world !

They do say searching up on Google is pretty basic but doing it actually would really be tough yet choices would still always vary on your decisions in the end basing on your analysis and to that kind of logic that had been mentioned where you do already come to a point that even reputable or good ones you do still able having the suspicion you would really be just like on a man that trust no one.Sometimes it do good things but applying it strictly would still have negative effects just like missing out on good opportunities.

Yes easy one to know about the reputation and review of any gambling website,it can be done when enter into their ANN thread and can read the trusted and untrusted review in the OP of the ANN thread can give the clear idea about that site.But in gambling website the scam is rarely happening and we need to be careful with new websites.

Yeah, much better if have on bitcointalk because many experts here in gambling and that is easy for them to determine which legit one and those shady gambling sites. And further knowledge on that site you must better search on google who is the real owner and their support team. If I were you OP just choose gambling site that proven and tested they have a reputable name for their site. Searching is the best way to avoid scammers.

IMO if you are oversuspicious it only ruins your life because every time you are going to do business with someone there's always a thing or two in their behaviour that may look "suspicious ". Although I think that  this approach has to be applied to total strangers in real life and to new or unknown to anybody places in the Internet, it is not necessary to suspect someone with good reputation in potential scamming behaviour.

Just go to google and search the website on it, like "name the gambling site" and add review/scam. Gambling site on cryptocurrency usually have a live chat to chat with other gamblers, if no one chat on the live chat it means no one play on that site and it's better to not gambling on that site.

I am really interested in online things that help people to make good for themselves and for their society. Some amazing work that is available online to make things easier for you and life gets comfortable. But then we see this gambling thing that is all about losses and problems. But I am really unsure about those persons who indulged in this game. Are they humans, don’t they see the blast they are going to have?

A scam most-likely won't happen at long-standing casino, which already has good reputation. If you want to minimize risk - don't try freshly opened ones as there are decent amount of proven websites that offer options to satisfy anyone's needs.

But what if this person with good reputation gets their account hacked? Or suddenly encountered problems. I still think that you can’t be too protective of yourself and you will need to be suspicious of everyone, including those with good reputations and even with your friends & family. sadly, there’s still the chance you’ll get betrayed even by those who you trust so I still think being oversuspicious is not so bad.

You can't really say that, i mean yes there are sites which closed in a short time just to scam people but if you see yolodice almost 2 years ago even they were a new site in the crypto world and today the site is matching stats with one of the oldest dice sites and also making it top

That's true that the old ones won't allow something slip their reputations that has been built through the entire time that they have been operating.

Hardship and hard work made them to the top and gained their reputation along their way, it's not easy for a casino to gain reputation and it's a business. They won't allow something to ruin their reputation because it will ruin their business.

Newly created casino's are likely to scam so if there's someone who loves to try them out, beware and cautious.

This site is a big help in spotting scam sites there will always be a review for a gambling site here because most of the site opens a thread here to get gamblers. Always search here first if it has lots of positive review then the site is safe or trustworthy if not then stay away from it.

If has some positive activity / feedback, some forum.
Background history is also good.
Nothing in those scam review sites neither in here (bitcointalk)
How long is it running?

Those are some of the topics you might wanna look for.

I look at user reviews on the forums, I look at how the company answers questions. If they have a media face and are also supported by the community, that's good.

to find out the site was a fraud can check at list of web site scam, scam sites often usually features a gift that is so seductive and kemuhadan to get the prize. we do have to be very careful in choosing her because gambling site It's hard to distinguish him.

yes I agree, it's because to keep the trust of everyone who plays casinos feel comfortable on sites that have been made long ago, of course the developers who are on the site always provide the best service to its users. obviously different from the newly created casino and have no confidence yet

Well I am little bit misunderstood with the concepts that you are talking about. Really, if you want to spot a scam then go for trading and investing and search out which ICOs are really harmful and scam that people must save themselves from. But if you are just trying out to save yourself from scam in gambling, this is still a loss for you that needs to be solved.

Yes. The good thing about the internet age is that nothing is hidden and everything is accessible, which makes it hard for any scammer to go unnoticeable. I am talking about the cases where being anoymous is not a default option.
There are so many reviews online about each platform; discussion among users and all these things makes it easy for anyone to be able to stay safe and secure rather than getting to be a victim of such scam sites. Staying smart in this internet age is easy but I still wonder why some people still prefer staying dumb.

Doing a search on the forums for the casino name usually can show you if there are a lot of people complaining about that website. Google is ok too, but I think the best way to spot a scam is just to test it out yourself with a little bit of money. If it works, just stay with depositing that much money at a time. Maybe some place won't scam for $100 but if you think it's safe and deposit $1,000 then they might.

The only problem is that the search function on this forum is old and honestly horrible- I don't think anyone seriously uses the search tool on this forum. Google is a much better tool for finding posts on this forum, and appending 'bitcointalk' onto the end of a string of words should help you come to whatever you're looking for on this forum, whether it's finding a scam site or a discussion about mining hardware.

I have found sites like Reddit are also decent for finding Bitcoin and gambling-related information, but it's always best to find multiple sources to verify what you're reading is true. Sites you find on Google usually aren't too bad either, as long as you filter through sites obviously shilling a service and such.

Some people really be dumb. Not doing any research before doing anything. That's why ponzi websites were once booming and I remember there was even a thread in this forum that has a list of websites and they determine whether it's ponzi or not. But, consider this. What if the website is totally brand new and they have reasonable promises and are totally believable? Since they are new, you really cannot find anything about them yet since not much have tried the website.

I think this is one of the reasons why people get scammed. They find this "new" and "interesting" website that's very promising. They can't find reviews since it's new. And even if they do, it's probably made by the website owners themselves and it's all positive. It's the same thing as ponzi. People are gullible. Don't trust new websites is the way to go. There's always going to be a similar website which has already been around for years and have good reviews. Use that instead. Same goes for ICO review sites.

Spotting scams is much easier then people make it out to be. 
If a company isnt a scam, you will be able to know from the beginning.
Look for plenty of community involvement and proper spelling in posts.

ila you send a question to the support team website and no answer for days, do not continue your work there, could be when you do not get payment and contact support team they will not care about your problem right?

Before I Make a deposit i do ...

1, check if they are active on social media
2, check what other people say
3, check the bonus terms

after that i do a small dep to see that everything runs smoothly

You can also know that most of the scams are showing it's nature in the beginning.

In the Scam accusation section, you'll see some accusations that are being thrown to scams and there are casino's there too.

Gambling sites tend to appear almost everywhere, advertisements, endorsements, but there are 2 main aspects that you should always check before you gamble, make sure that gamblers are everywhere, if there are participants then I don't think there should be a reason to make doubts, secondly, it will be extremely obvious to check if the website has given effort, if the website was fullt designed.

Scammy ambling sites not always start off as a scam, they maybe let people win a few games at first so that they get some reputation but than gradually start not paying and than walk away, so I think that in order for a site to be completely trustful, the owner the staff should be known and every transaction and winnings should be completely transparent.

You can't just deposit on a site to test it tho. Some sites may appear legitimate by paying in their early days just to get more people interested to play. Some sites even offer huge bonuses which sometimes can mean they are luring players or maybe it's indeed a legitimate offer.

Scams in gambling sites also comes in different forms. It's not always the "they did not pay, so they are scam".
A gambling site can scam someone by a rigged game and offering a not probably fair games when it should be one.

Reviews of the site (although these can be faked, so look for legitimate reviews that are monitored) along with certain features such as "Provably Fair"

Exactly, basically feedback you get from it.
And run some bets / withdraws / deposits see if the site is hanging and has positive reviews from real Users

This is basically a fundamental right for a person that if he gets any problem and he wants the solution from team, he must contact them and ask for respective problem. Then it becomes duty of the concerned team and focal person that he must address the problem in best possible way and with best possible information encountering. If he isn’t making any solution, team is responsible.

I don't like the idea of playing in newly established gambling sites. I always look for reviews, feed back or any on hand experience story shared by a user of a gambling site. However, I don't read reviews from bloggers that are paid to review because of course they will say good things to the site and everything is sugar coated just to increase traffic and get paid.

I think that's a really good point as well.

If trying out a new casino (or virtually any BTC business), simply load up a low amount of BTC. Test out the waters, if all good: continue to larger amounts.

I think gambling sites are very visible from some of the existing reviews, as gambling sites can not afford to buy reviews, and in real live, gambling sites will get good reviews if they are proven to be honest and pay.

The first rule of thumb in this bitcoin casino world is history. If the website has a history of good reputation and a ton of pages on its bitcointalk topic than you can know for sure that that website will be alright. If you think even for a second whichever website you are checking seems scammy, don't gamble there.

Check everyone's topics and you can see which one is old, established and trustworthy. For example we all know primedice, we all know how trustworthy and great it is, that means its really insane to think they would scam you, why would they do that considering they are already making ton of money.

Just I have surfed on Google and found that this site is being useful to find the reviews about the various projects and you can find the more quick guides on the many projects in the crypto gambling industry. Hope this may be helpful for the guys like you.

https://bitcoinplay.net/

Even I have created the thread on this section to understand which is more trusted to gambling. Reviews may work better to learn and earn in gambling.

I would have become happy if you say something else than to talk about good and bad sites. People are looking into gambling since long time. This can’t be ended but we must try to eliminate it slowly and gradually. We have to see how people are ruining their lives and their families are on stake. These gamblers don’t earn and they come to roads once they are finished with what they had stored.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. If the bonus and promotional offers sound too good to be true, then carefully read the site's terms and conditions, especially regarding bonus offers and cashing out requirements, and proceed with extreme caution.

Or maybe it is a swan, but still young :), but when grown it will be beautiful :)

But jokes aside, I agree that caution should be applied whenever something sounds to good. The problem is that some of those sites offer very regular services, and still may try to scam you. I suggest to always start with low amounts and only when something gets tested and proved legit not once, not twice, but many many times over, only then increase the amount.

That's legit, a gambling site that's paying accordingly and honest to their service will be noticed and praised.

But those scams will prevail once their shady attitude will be busted.

Only play on gambling sites that have a good reputation, great customer support, and have fair games.  There has been a lot of scam gambling sites that have popped up this past year.  Just make sure to do your research and reviews from legit players and it's easy to separate the good sites from the bad ones.

What I do is I try to check the reviews, comments and ratings of the site. Do some research if there had been articles of it from before. It would be kind of sketchy if no results are found on the web. You can also ask for referral from trusted friends, or if you join a group which could recommend good sites, that’s a bonus.

The lack of articles, reviews, comments, and ratings about the website can easily be bypassed by a simple "We're a new company." That's why I always gamble and trade in websites that have been around for quite a while now.

What's more sketchy, and what's more deceptive is when you find articles and websites reviewing the casino and they are all positive. Keep in mind that others are getting paid to do this. They are paid to say good things on a website they don't know about. I can totally imagine a scam website contacting a review site saying that they are going to pay them to write an article for them which covers the given topics and features of the website. It's really hard to deal with new websites as they can easily establish their name by paying out at the beginning and then run away when they've accumulated enough funds.

For gambling, it not easy to spot any scams but few things can be taken care of and scam can be avoided. First do not invest big in new gambling sites as you never know their reputation. Secondly, always gambling in the well established sites and also which have good feedback on different social media. If a site is offering lot of bonus and other benefits like zero loss etc then think twice before investing as they may never let you withdraw.
This happen a few times with me as i was tempted to invest in very new site which gave high bonuses but they never let withdraw. :(

Yeah, the internet pretty much lays it out for you and you just have to make efforts for your money. Discussions for me are a big help since younget ideas from people's experiences. That will tell you how reliable a site is. Think twice about offers and promis that ate too good to be true.

In short, just stick out to those new gambling sites that do have some realistic welcome or bonus offer than on offering those kind of too good to be true then you should really be wary on that particular situation.
Its not really necessary for you to deposit just to test out a certain gambling site because even just on initial research or just simply checking out sites terms and designs you can able to spot it out
if they are serious on their business or just an another garbage website is being created.

I dont know if you are aware or you just simply ignore the dates above.This is grave digging dude and its not necessary for you to reply on almost 2 year old discussions.

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For the sake of on topic reply, then how to spot a scam? When you do see red flags with your own very eyes and when anything gets suspicious then Google would always be your friend.

i think it's fine that this thread has become active again. people need to be reminded again and again how to attack in a very straightforward manner. because there are a lot of us here, that have been screwed over and over again even if you know the basic strategies how to spot one. i agree the first thing to consult is google and you will already have long list to look at just by typing the word

Its not really that necessary imho. We know the basics and its been discussed for how many times in this forum.No need to grave dig as per forum rules.

Spotting a scam is easy but there are still dumb people who cant able to do so even how obvious it is.

@SiNeReiNZzz You should be aware next time so that you can avoid on bumping up old threads.

Therefore, before joining betting sites do the research correctly, don't be lazy to read reviews about betting sites
you will use. Of course, like ICO projects, betting sites also allow fake rating / review to occur. Which is the site
it pays to get good reviews or ratings.Therefore, choose a trusted source of reviews, such as this Bitcointalk forum.

Some review here are fake because of some post bumping services here that offers fake post on the thread so don't rely much here. Checking the status of website and there license is only thing you need to do. All legit casino has there  license and provides legal documents that will prove that they are legit.

Nowadays its easy to fake the reviews and ratings for a gambling site. Google can help you to give an idea about the specific site but its best to have other sources to verify their reputation which you can find here in the forum. Search for that gambling site and you can find the reviews and experience of gamblers. Much better to only gamble in a reputable gambling site to not get any problem when you play.

bumping a thread is okay as long as you follow the forum rules  , it does not mean that its a fake site that they are promoting  . you can also read the coments of that thread  . easy to spot a fake site if the comments  are mostly from newly built accounts and you find them talking all . it was like thier conversation is not geniune   . license is a powerful tool to gain repuation but its also possible that they will use it a wrong way  .  you see many gambling sites on the past turns into bad too   . anything is possible here

Google is also giving consent to those fake reviews,Google is one place where manys cams are getting on it so prevent trusting google .
and also yeah this forum is one good place where to find legitimate gambling sites but it doesn't mean that everything here are legit.
the best way is to make your own research about these site.
and also for better and safer gambling?use those sites that has been existing here for long time now.
and i know there is a thread here that posts everything about gambling site that is valid and legit.

I won't trust Google to find the scam gambling sites because I think Google itself can not filter the scam sites, but reading on this forum to find the crypto gambling website will be better than searching on other websites. However, it doesn't always guarantee to get the legit gambling website since we can get a scam too from here. But it is okay if you want to search fiat gambling website, and I am sure Google will help you ;)

So we need to be careful to select the crypto gambling site, and always remember, don't use big money to gamble if you are not ready to lose your money. Maybe if the crypto gambling website offers so many bonuses for a new player or existing player can be a sign to scam people, but that depends on how the site can satisfy the member.

Don't trust the ratings, it often gets positive by paid accounts so look for the opinions on forums where strangers interact about that site and if it has no such thing then don't risk your money to a new unknown casino.

What are some common spots on how to know if the betting sites are a scam or not? First, you can spot if the betting sites are a scam if it requires an investment first in enable for you to withdraw your winnings and etc. This probably my opinion only because I've seen a lot of gambling sites that require this kind of requirement and I don't trust this kind of doings.

This is the perfect start point.Also keep in mind that scams are becoming more sophisticated with each passing day so doing a thorough search is a must nowadays in order not to be scammed.Checking the feedback of the casino you want to open an account and play here is the strongest evidence to take into account.If feedbacks are mostly positive go ahead without any fear and if it is mostly negative stay away.

I don't really look for a scam gambling site, instead, I look for a legit site. If I still doubt a certain site, I won't explore and I will just go with the trusted one. I also don't explore a lot about new gambling sites since I prefer to stick with the one I know and the one who is popular with a good reputation. Looking for reviews is fine as long as you will gather enough reviews since sometimes some can be a paid review. This forum is also good to known other's recommendations and insight on a certain gambling site.

Personally, I also ask recommendations with my friends since I can trust them better than those online reviews. But as I have said, I stick with the one I have experienced playing. I don't immediately get bored with a particular site since I don't often gamble so it takes a while before I will try to look for other sites.

There are some scenario that due to the age of the casino and the publicity of it. Some casino don't have much user that already try it. So requesting for feedback will be useless. I think doing a background check about the casino is the perfect way to verify if there are really legitimate. The best way to tackle that kind of scenario if you are not good on doing a background check is to open a thread and request for a verification to trusted member.

There's a lot of good detective user that can penetrate on the darkest secret of a certain casino if they have it. Believing on a random feedback from a random people was totally useless.

You guys should be aware that the thread is 2 years old and any answer from today will not matter, even what OP is asking; the ICO is mainly out of the context now.

Asking a recommendation to a friend about a legitimate and a good gambling site is the best way because you don't need to make any research and read online reviews, if your friend already experience about the site he already played. But it is also good if you only stick in one gambling site for you not to get difficulty when playing in a new gambling site.

Actually, it is very easy to reach the answer to the question you have asked.  All you have to do is get information about the website and do a little research just before using a website.  You must also have sufficient knowledge of this service before using a new service, regardless of conditions or promotions.  If you deposit money on any website you see without doing any research, or if you want to try a website you see, you can be sure that you will come across a lot of scam websites and you will lose a lot of money even without gambling.

One of my key factors to know if a betting site is shady or not is searching threads here in Bitcointalk forum, if there are topics reviews or scam accusations to the site, i'll be able to quickly find out. Another key factor is they need to have an ANN thread that has a representative to answer all complaints.

Nowadays we see some rating sites that had become the culprit of scammers. they will gladly receive some payments in exchange for fake ratings to get more people. Unfortunately, there are lots of them who get fall to this kind of trap and the worse thing is, they continue this kind of fraud until now.

If you landed at a casino and unsure why you landed to it, you might just think twice and ask whether anyone had ever been playing in that casino.
You are already in the forum so you might as well ask the people around in the forum whether they can recommend playing. Chances are many will answer you what they think about the casino.

You can also search on Google for reviews and also on Youtube to see a few videos and check their views and comments and also on reddit. Also for a good casino they must be having high followings on social media and also there engagement rates will be good, if not then it is a red flag and should deposit with caution. Also if you are depositing on the website for the first time, try depositing small amounts and after a few wins try to withdraw, if the money arrives then that website is good to go.

If they don't have a thread here, you can still search them and use search engines. And there will be fake reviews that will be shown so don't believe them as if they're legit reviews.

Even such reviews can not always be trusted.  Any platform to some extent encounters difficulties, so the first thing you need to look for is negative reviews.  Exactly how the platform deals with dissatisfied customers shows its real face.  If I can’t find such reviews on the network, then I assume that positive reviews can be fake.  Then it makes sense to find those people who are users of the platform and receive feedback directly from them.

This is also a good idea to find paid shilling websites because mostly new sites will get errors and bugs then which will be resolved so if a site never had such problems when it is literally new then approach that site with caution.

Having no negative reviews doesnt mean that they are already considered automatically fake.Why we cant just say that they do give out better service than the others?
Site reviews can be rigged thats why we should really be careful on not to easily believe on whats being said specially if its a new one.If you can risk up to test waters then
do it on small amount and find it if it do pay.If it does then its up to you if you would trust them or not.It do matter most in users experience most of the time.

Fake ratings become more and more a problem and if you don't make proper check you might get victim.of a scam. If you can find any independent source it's worth checking. Also, try to test customer service to see how they respond and check other customers experiences.
It's also good to check the background of casino, where and by whom the site is registered and if everything is legitimate.
Although some scam online casinos could be very sophisticated so sometimes is very hard to recgonize scam scheeme.

When we are highly depending on reviews and ranking, people do attempt to scam us by fake rating. It is happening everywhere unfortunately. Only when you react based on the people you know or people whom you trust based on other criteria then the chances to skip scams is bigger. At the same time, people who suddenly start working for monetary benefits will certainly a big problem even we know them/following them for years.

Exit scam must be another big thing we must need to address here. I guess we cannot protect us against exit-scam as people are always tend to use any services which is running for years hence keep big money with them is obvious and when they decide to quit then we cannot do anything about that. Only possible measure here is, just NOT keeping big money with any services but frequent depositing/withdraw may kill us in terms of longer waiting time and bigger tx fees.

The best service always attracts a large number of people and the attention of the Internet media, because it takes a lot of money to provide the best service.  So, finding versatile information on the platform you are interested in will not be difficult.  Probably less funded platforms are able to provide excellent service, but here we must always be double cautious.  Firstly, this is more an exception to the rule than a regularity, and secondly, you must always assume that there may be scammers in front of you until you are 100% convinced of the opposite.