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Its so sad when we have been made to believe its bounty hunters who dump their bounty tokens immediately after ICO and so devalue the coins on the market. Because of this notion, project managers these days try to delay bounty rewards while some even go ahead to give small rewards so that the actions of bounty hunters will not affect the price of their coins. Now I participated in this bounty and we were paid late as usual. We went to the market and realized the price was already down, even below the ICO price. So who caused it ? I think we should have a second look at this issue. Don't you think its the investors who get bonuses during the ICO who try to dump their bonuses for profit and not the bounty hunters as we have been made to believe?. Let me hear your opinions guys

You may have come up with the right assumption. There are actually whales who buy huge portions of the tokens and come the token end of the ICO, they dump their coins in order to gather profits. Once the token gets listed at an exchange, these whales sell all their tokens. Because of this, the price of the token goes down.

This is not the case all the time, however, as it is possible that the ICO has not been as successful.

I think each ICO is different than the other. There are many factors you can look at to give you a hint who's selling the most. Usually seed investors and private sale got huge bonuses and some with lockup, I think if there's no lockup most likely would be the private investors as most of them right now are VCs and all what they care about it a quick $$

In Other cases, if the bounty is huge and been distributed before listing, unfortunately, many bounty hunters sell at market price.

You have made a very good assumption there. Bounty hunters are always the ones who are blamed. I think we should look more into this issue and find who the real dumpers are

Yes you have a point there, because the whales are those who own higher percentages of the coins, a dump from even one of them can disrupt the market price significantly compared to small amount own by the hunters

My opinion that price dump is the result of profit fixing of Private investors, pre-Sale and Pre-pre-Sale investors with huge bonuses and unfair developers and only in some cases bountyhunters are the reason.

Managers has the right to do what they think will be beneficial to the project/ICO, if they think that its fine to let the investors have their tokens first to trade, its okay.

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You're over thinking about your tokens/stakes but you haven't put it on your mind that developers can also cause dump.

It all depends on how big the bounty pool was, and on what kind of bonuses for investors were at the sales stage. If the bounty pool was not big then it can not affect the price in any way, and the same with bonuses.

Those pre or private sale participants and i believe about that. Remember there is an ico that offers more than 40% bonus to the early investors through the way called private sale. I guess they are dumping their bonus as fast as possible to get the fast buck. That's my thought about that.

Bounty hunters are the first to sell their tokens, as they did not buy them.

They are not investors and they want to take their money as early as possible

What I want to say about this. This is your choice where to participate. No one is immune from falling or staying with a full zero with participation in the ICO. But I'll tell you one thing to participate in proven companies and all the encouragement is waiting for you.

I would assume that bounty hunters aren't a big part of it, since most ICOs issue a very limited percentage of tokens for bounties.
Usually it's not more than 5% which goes towards bounty rewards.

Investors who were able to buy cheap might sell immediately as they make a profit at launch.

From my observation, both bounty hunters and ICO investors are guilty of dumping coins/tokens. Usually, coins/tokens for bounty hunters and ICO investors are distributed at the same time so I was surprise that bounty payments were delayed. They should have just released it and probably lock for a few months.

Main reason is project dev don't want to paid the bounty reward, or hope to reduce total tokens allocated, they only reserve below 5% of total tokens to bounty campaign, even all the bounty hunter immediately dump their coins, it's also won't affect tokens price, most of the project paid the reward within 1 or 2 month, who's own most of the tokens? Answer is project team/founder, they want to cash out Cryptocurrencies to fiat and told investor price dump because of bounty hunter

i think you have an point also that some investors that has whales they can really manipulate the ups and down of an ICO project. they can supply almost all small buyers of that coins while also earning because of there big bonuses while it still an ICO project. but not all ICO projects are like this, sometimes the cause of early dump of every token is lack of support to the team after the ICO ends, investors will also sell immediately there holdings so that will not loose what they invested.

I think every bounty hunters don't dump their coins. Most of the bounty hunter who got a large amount of token, they keep holding their token. And others hunters sell their coin to make a quick money. And, Presale investors sell their coin at a very cheap price because they got an extra bonus. So, We shouldn't blame all bounty huntersd and all presale investors.

Bounty hunters would of course dump the coin first but the amount they hold don't make any visible effect on the price. It's the early investors that goes with a visible dump.
The early investors have coins that have cost them about 1/3 cheaper than the ICO price in average and they would be keen to profit from that.
So, it's the different prices of tokens during the sale which is the main reason for the price drop.

False. How can they be the first to sell if the tokens are distributed later than the investors? This is a common practice with ICOs having a bounty campaign. There's also some instances that bounty tokens are vested and hunters are forced to wait for the tokens to unlock after 6 months. Now, who do you think sold first?

I think miners are the one who's responsible for dumping the price of the coins which are mineable. They mine it initially when complexity is very low thereby accumulating a huge amount of tokens and then selling it when it launched on the exchange. Airdroppers and bounty hunters are also responsible for dumping of the price but not to an extent which miners are. Also right now several projects are following the approach of locking airdrop and bounty hunter tokens to a period varies from 6-12 months. I think it's a good strategy considering project wants to retain the trust of the investors and buyers.

Bounty hunters get their coins usually a month after the investors. For often, immediately sold people who participated in the project at the Pre-ICO stage. They are more profitable to sell for 20-30% of profit and buy 2-3 times cheaper in a couple of days.

Most likely bounty hunters. They received their tokens for free and they will be satisfied with such earnings. But investors who want to multiply their investments will keep tokens to the best price.

many people assume if the bounty hunter is the one who causes the price to fall even can be far below the price of ICO, they are blamed for only getting coins for free, but I think the market price drops because investors are throwing bonuses at very cheap prices so the price continues to fall ( tokens earned bounty hunter not as much as bonuses obtained by investors)

I think investors, because the division of coin to bounty is only 0.5 - 5% of sales and a percentage of that size I think it is difficult to make the price dump.

Bounty tokens typically account for only 1-3% of the total number of ICO tokens. So it's not the fault of the bounty hunters. When all bounty token are sold out, it does not affect the price of the token. The reason is that the ICO investors have sold all their tokens after being listed at some exchange.

Nowadays we can see a lot of coins going down below ICO price right after the release. Mainly it causes because of not being listed on a good volume exchange. If the ICO had a bounty campaign, it is possible that the bounty hunters are dumping. They got the tokens free, so will possibly sell at any availabile rate.
It's also possible that the private and presale buyers got bonuses, which may be the reason for dump.
Finally, the market is bearish, so all projects are affected.

I believe bounty hunters are dumping coins, as they don't trust a lot of altcoins. They fear that these coins would fail in future, so they are dumping coins whatever value they get.

First of all, the price always falls due to investors who sell their coins almost immediately after receiving them, bounty hunters are not able to greatly influence the rate because their share is much less than the share of investors.

Bounty hunters usually receive their tokens later than investors. Moreover, very often bounty pool has a very small percentage of the total number of tokens (1-2%), so the sales of bounty hunters have little effect on pricing.

The usual dumper of freshly distributed coins are the Bounty Hunters because 70-80% of bounty hunters don't hold the coins they get, after the got it they will immediately dump it thus some of the bounty campaign are delaying the distribution for the bounty hunters for like 1 month so that it wont affect the future price of the coin.

If investors received large bonuses on pre-sale, then they can start selling tokens as soon as the token appears on the crypto exchange

Bounty hunters can not discard their received tokens earlier than investors. Investors get their tokens in the ICO process at significant discounts and it is very profitable for them to immediately sell them at an ICO price. You can immediately get a double profit if the token was purchased with a 50 percent discount. Bounty hunters now within a month, or even more, are waiting for token payments after the end of the ICO and only after a considerable period of time have the opportunity to get with the received token on the exchange. By that time, as a rule, tokens can descend in price two, or even more times. Therefore, there is no need to trouble about lowering the price of the original token to dump bounty hunters.

That's rude, how could that happen? if the Bounty allocation is just 1% or 2% in the total sold Tokens were go to the Bounty Participants and I think not all Bounty hunters well dump there Bounty tokens, that's nonsense and no logic lets say some bounty People are selling there token maybe 0.5% that amount will effect the price temporarily Aside of being part time  Bounty hunter i am also and Investor and I'm notice that some or most of the Investors sell there Tokens with (30-50% Bonus) like I do in one project Ive Invested 1.8 Eth worth of tokens plus 40% Bonus? when the 1st exchange listing was open I'm sell it Immediately no more chitchat. lets be honest its a clever move to sell or regret. when the price sucks!

The ICO investors who dump the coins of course because once the coin is listed in exchange they going to sell right away, they don't want to hold they are just get their profit.

I do not really blame anyone, the ICO project will very little take into account the allocation for each prize hunter is not too big because they know it is very risky for the project they do, the investor can at least make a huge effect on the price, the first pre sale with the price very minimal it is an opportunity for whales to buy more and automatically after passing multiple sales at a price greater than they bought first, and for sale after entering the market, but can not blame anyone, maybe that's how they make a profit.

First you have to split early ICO investors from late ICO investors.

Early investors are buying tokens during preICO and receiving bonuses in form of extra tokens while late investors are receiving only what they buy.

So short answer to your topic is both preICO investors and bounty hunters are dumping tokens.

this question is the same as I want to find the answer, but if according to my assumptions all depends on the project, if the distributions of token investors and hunters hadia together will likely make the price down, but it also depends on the coin enthusiasts.

Its already expected, most of the bounty hunters will dump their reward immidiately once it is listed on the exchange. But, even if all of the bounty hunters dumped, it isnt enough to affect the price of a certain coin, as the reward was not more than 3 to 4 or 5% of token/coin distribution. It should be on the investors who bought huge percentage of their distribution and dumped right away after it is listed in the exchange.

The first after the listing of the coin on the exchange there are investors, because they need to return their investment before the price falls and preferably with growth,and the bounty hunters can come out with their coins only when they give the reward, and this happens after the ICO a month or even later. In addition, the percentage of bounty tokens is so small that it can not affect the cost.

Coins aren’t sold by investors after accessing to rialto. But they are sold by Bounty hunters. You can take a look to the amount and see the investors keep their coins and wait for a good time for selling

investors always get token before bounty hunter and sometimes the price goes down before distribution to bounty hunter and I think the price of coin drops because many investors throw their coins

When the bounty reward distributed before that token listing on the exchange, bounty hunter will has probability to dump the price, but when the project pay bounty hunter after 2 month since the token listed so can be airdrop program for investor dump the price.This is also according to fundamental and demand of the project, when the project low demand many investor will sell it in loss to avoid bigger loss.

No two way about this,  it's a common phenomenon for a coin/token to get dumped after listing,  investor most time set target to get their investment out and little profit as quick as possible.  They do come in later when price is way below ICO price.  Same applies to bounty hunters even the developers.
The game is who ever get there first get to cashout.

Bounty hunters value their time and will not sell tokens for pennies. Now the campaign bounties go 2-4 months and everyone wants to get a decent reward for their work.

bounty hunters and investor sell their coins after it hit exchange. with bonus investor can earn already if they sell it away. we know that after ICOs coins price drop everyday so the earlier to sell the better. it still depends on the bounty hunter and investor if they want to sell it or not.

I think, the main reason is ico investors because they give a promotion price and %10 %20 bonus their token and than they exchange their tokens to money. Bounty hunters they sell and never buy again

Anyone can dump especially now that the markets are not stable. Very few coins are able to go above their ICO prices. I have also experienced that a few times where the bounty hunters are given their coins many weeks after the token has been listed. By the time we get the tokens, the price would be very low already. It also appears that bounty rewards are no longer worth it, I have since stopped participating in bounty because we can spend months doing the monotonous activities, promote the projects but at the end of the day, the rewards are peanuts.

I think both - bounty hunters and ICOs investors dumping coins, there are too few true holders and i understand them, only 1 of 100 ICOs will stay in future.

In most cases these are the ones who actually receive huge amounts that actually can have an impact to the price, compared to bounty hunters who's share is always much smaller. Someone who put money into a project to make more money will sell and take profit when the first chance presents itself because they don't want to lose money. A bounty hunter who didn't invest money but time might be willing to hodl because they have nothing to lose.
Chances are that they might also have more faith in the project since they spend more time promoting it.

I think it depends from coin and from it's advantage, if it one of unknown coins no one try to keep it and price is going down. Bounty hunters sell almost every time their tokens first of all and for sure they can affect at price but not for a long period of time.

Both i guess bounty hunters are dumping because they  need money and early investors are dumping his bonus coins.However ico  pay bounty hunters with delays.Problem is lack of volume on small exchanges where tokens appear

I don't think people who win the bounty are so effective at drop prices. Usually the price has already fallen until the bounty are distributed. It makes more sense to think that ICO investors sell early.

Some projects, even if not organized bounty, are widely promoted, can still be pumb. But it can also help us to assert that the project is not potent enough, so it can not withstand that price shock.

I think Both on them but mostly i think bounty hunters including also airdroppers and bounty manager they are the reason why the price of a token or coin is dumping the price.

   
You have an point also that some investors that has whales they can really manipulate the ups and down of an ICO project. they can supply almost all small buyers of that coins while also earning because of there big bonuses, while its still an ICO project. But not all ICO projects are like this, sometimes the cause of early dump of every token is lack of support to the team after the ICO ends.

In my opinion, the investors are to be blamed for dumping their coins early, most times when a coin is listed and bounty hunters have not been paid their due, you find out that the prices keeps dipping and you wonder why? How will it profit the investors to crash the price below the ICO price? Only to discover that they are still making profit from the huge bonuses received during pre-sales and the rest. Another thing that makes me believe it cant be the bounty hunters, is the fact that the total allocation for bounties is always meagre sum of the total token allocation. This should in no way affect thre price of the coin.

I think most of the time both will choose to sell the token.
Because most altcoin only has the value of hype, people have realized this.

Look at the volume, if the volume is low, sells are more than buys and the price is low maybe the bounty hunters are dumping but if the volume is high maybe it's the early investors who are dumping. Remember that the normal bounty allocation of most projects are just 1%-5% of total supply/circulating supply, even all the bounty hunters dump all their rewards it won't change a lot on pricing.

In such situations are there two possibilities: dumping from bounty hunters or selling of the bonus amount who is gived during the pre-sale phases. Mostly are this the reasons why a  coin dump and come under the ICO price.

But sometimes it is the project manager who dump tokens.
Somehow i do not think its always bounty hunter or investor.
Who really dump tokens it is very hard to find out.

ICO investors are likely to dump their coins if there is very long period of pre-ico with heavy discount because even if they will sell their coins at ico price when listing on exchange they will make good profit.

Bounty hunters will always dump their coin just after listing regardless of price even when ico collects millions.

One of the good ways to prevent this is that projects can pay 50% bounty in ETH and 50% in their tokens. This will reduce the probability of a possible dump after the completion of the ICO. This issue is fairly well disclosed in this my old thread  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344753.0 and also there was a poll and a great discussion ::)

it doesn't matter how you get the coins, what matters is that how much experience you have in this field. and if you have experience you would dump the coins as fast as possible because there is no exception for these new tokens to get dumped. people WILL sell without a doubt and when they sell price will come down. so an experienced person would sell faster than others to prevent his losses and get the most profit out of the token before it is dumped to the bottom.

I think that would be the investors. Bounty hunters are always paid 1 month after ICO and sometimes a few more days after that. The time they would receive their bounties, the coins value have already dipped. The investors sell and trade first. They would be the first to manipulate the market.

I think not only the bounty hunters and investors dumps the coin but also the team behind helping the project to grow and become successful like the bounty management group or telegram management group. I think they have also a part/salary from the ico project they work on by giving them the amount of token they negotiated before they work. But i think the main cause of this is bounty hunters because some of them dosnt care about the project all they care is the price they will get but im not saying all bounty hunters are like this.

Both of them, if it is only Bounty Hunter who sell the coin, the price would not be so dumped, since Bounty Hunters only have small portion of the total circulating coin, except that the ICO of the Projects is not succeed (but if that so then this project deserve to be dumped). On the other hands, ICO investor buy so many coins that even if only few investors dump their token/coin it will radically affect the coin price.

I think investors. Nowadays bounty hunters receive their token last. Normally weeks after token listed on the first exchange. Because it is a great time to take the profit, the majority of token shows an increase in the price right after listing.

Bounty Hunters get blamed for dumping coins but since most bounties are only 1% or 2% of the float that would only have a very limited and short term effect on the price. A far bigger impact is made by people who buy in during the presale at huge discounts to the ICO price and then sell their coins at below the ICO price but higher than the amount they paid. Beware of investing in ICO's that offer very large presale discounts without any vesting period as you will likely see presale investors dumping their coins at a price below what you paid.

One thing I have realized is; no matter how many tokens you earn from a bounty program participation
It is not enough to dump the market price

The real dumpers are the early investors of ico; they buy and get ridiculous bonus rate which gives them the opportunity to dump because they end up in profit regardless
But can they be stopped ??

I do not think so when I like being a bounty hunter or as an investor in ICO projects, with bounty you can be right when I sell as soon as I receive them, because they are not. have a future or part because they are at the right price. But some bounty I do not sell because I feel it's a good project, let's put yourself in the feeling of being an investor rather than a bounty hunter.

According to my view, both the bounty hunters and ICO investors dump their coins too early after getting listed on exchanges but both of them have different valid reasons for that. Bounty hunters sell out their coins too early just in order to get some profits in BTC or Ethereum and they take it as a part-time job for themselves and earn a profit out of it. ICO investors dump their coins early because the coin is having no more potential to be holded for long-term and that's why they sell it as soon as it got listed on the exchange.

Who dump coins early, both bounty hunters and ICO investors are contributing, but i think that the share of ICO investors is more. Don't forget the contribution of whales who want to collect at low prices.

It has been observed on many occasions that it is the early investors who are already in profit by the end of token sale and whales who get huge bonuses that dump immediately on exchange.
Many bounty hunters want to wait for token value to appreciate but the dumpers would create panic and make bounty hunters join the trend
Not cool

ICO investors can also dump their coins, especially when they got a lot bonus coins during the pre-ico or in ico session.
they got so much extra coins from pre-ico or ico session that can be sold at any time.

I believe that everything depends on the project (token), if it is popular and promising, very few will sell it right after it is received, but if participants and investors do not see further prospects for the bonus campaign, they will immediately try to sell it. Conclusion: campaign participants bonuses can not significantly affect the price reduction of the token.

 Investors like to blame the hunters in the token dump after the listing. But there are many examples when investors themselves have dropped the price tens of times. And bounty hunters at that time did not even receive their reward.

It is definitely the early investors who put in money in at the start, these are the ones that really make the project happen so it gets close to the soft cap. As soon as it hits an exchange with a buy order higher than their initial investment it gets dumped, which means they got a serious discount.

Everyone can do it here is more dependent on the person

It is the investors who buy in private and presales who are responsible for most of the dumping. It is not unusual to see discounts of 30 to 70% being offered to private sale and presale investors over the price offered in the ICO with no additional hold period being attached. A lot of ignorant fools blame post ICO price drops on those doing the bounties even though it is rare to see the bounty token allocation exceeding 3% of the tokens sold. There is a very simple remedy to the supposed dumping by bounty hunters and that is to pay out the bounty in Ethereum or some other cryptocurrency other than the tokens of the ICO.

many factors that influence the occurrence of dumps of a token / coin and what often happens is that bounty hunters sell coins that they get too quickly and too cheaply but if the project runs smoothly according to their planning, the coins sold by bounty hunters will have no effect.

Dropping coins after rewarding for work in the bounty is a problem of the price of coins. One solution to this problem is paying for working in bounty campaigns with an ethereum or other sustainable coin. ICO developers are interested in the stability and growth of tokens. I think soon they will pay for participating in bounty campaigns in the ethereum.

Both of them do dump coin early but I don't think the dump of some bounty hunters can have significant effect in the price of a coin or token. I think the real dumpers are those who get huge discounts during private sale and presale. When it comes to dump, some project's team cannot also be trusted.

At the moment I would say the answer to that quesion is anyone that wishes to preserve their capital in a Bear market. Most of the ICO that have launched during the summer of 2018 have failed miserably to retain value when launching at the exchange. It has been a sensible choice to sell off and then if you really believe in the project re-purchase after prices have stabilised. n reality alot of bounties are not paid out until 6 - 8 weeks after ICO completes.

I think that only early-stage investors dump tokens price, because they had a great discounts (50-100%), so they sold their tokens with profit.

i believe that both categories dump at the end of the ico when the tokens are listed on exchanges the bounty hunters because they got the tokens at no cost and the investors because they bought it at a advantage cost (bonus)

Token becomes cheaper after entering to the stock exchange because most of the investors have a big bonus (about 40-50%).

Bounty hunters for sure. Since they got it for free so it's much easier for them to jump out. ICO investors put their money in and expect a % profit which makes them more like a holder.

Some bounty hunters are the reason why they dump coins early. Because they have waited long enough to make money from the bounties they work hard. we cannot blame them because they did there job and received rewards and sell it immediately.

Yes, I believe so and you are right. It is the investors most of the time who are dumping the coins they invested because they are the first one who received the tokens plus the bonuses. Bounty hunters are not all the time dumping but when they dump, they dump almost simultaneously that's why they were blamed for the dumping.

Yes, it could very well be. Not only among the bounty hunters, there are people who immediately drop their tokens in order to make a profit. Among investors, too, there are such people. But there's probably less, I think. It is possible that you saw the price decline was not because investors were selling their coins, but because the project itself was not successful. After all, the fall in prices can be accompanied by different reasons.

Yes, you are right, bounty hunters cannot be blamed with the drop in token prices when listing on the market. Bounty hunters only get 1-3% of their supply tokens. And that will not affect or even play a price in the market. And investors who get bonuses of up to 50% cause a drop in the price of the token. Most investors sell their bonuses first when new tokens are listed on the market.

In my opinion, the cause of dumping tokens is investors have already bought the coin. Indeed, bounty hunters get paid more slowly than the time of listing coins in exchange, but strangely why after the bounty hunter gets the tokens they have the coin prices on the market can go down even further. I can't guess for sure why this happened.

Hunters receive 2-3% of the total number of tokens sold. Is this ridiculous figure can strongly affect the price reduction. Quite often we had to watch the price fall, and hunters have not received their awards yet. My opinion is this. This is done by early investors who close profitable positions. The exchange can also play an important role in the fall of the price. Do not forget that the  exchanges take a fee for the listing in the project tokens.

My opinion is investors, because they start selling their bought coins at ICO prices and sometimes lower, because they have bonuses from buying, it's very sad, but then they start blaming bounty hunters, it's clearly not normal.

Both of it can be affect  because not gonna resist it, bounty hunter sell coins when they need money. And only a few that hold their coins to wait ICO price. But if me as investor, as long i get profit i usually sell my coins to join other project.

in any case, the company's Bounty members have quite a few coins, which They receive as a reward, so that in the case of mass sales, the price of the coin is greatly influenced.

I will say bounty hunters are the one's that dump coins why because some bounty hunters alway's like to sell off there coin why because they are afraid it might go low on price but i think that investors are the real holders. In cryptocurrency.

Sure, because no investor wants to lose money when investing in any ICO. Only bounty hunters will be dumping because they do not invest in those ICOs. They make bounty and receive it a free way and they will sell it all without interest to the project

According to me except Translation , Signature of Sr. Member or higher rank  , Bloggers all the social bounty hunters get very less coins for hard work. They surely dont want to dump those but a few sales early due to need. But I think the greater dumping comes from private sale investors when they receive huge ( more than 60% discounts) compared to ICO price.

Both , the bounty hunters and the ICO investors with high bonuses can dump their coins when they enter the exchanges.
If the project has potential and big demand for the coins the price should not drop even on the declining market.
Smart investors and hunters will never dump their coins if it has rising potential.

I quite agree with you because we have seen cases where bounty rewards are withheld for sometimes after which investors would have received theirs and still there was still dumping of the coin which was off course caused by investors. Investment bonuses to investors are seen as free gift which can be disposed off as they want. But one thing I have observed is that the rate at which investors will dump coins cannot be as high as that of bounty hunters.

I am with you in that. The blame is put on the bounty hunters for the fall of the price and looking at the statistics the bounty hunters only hold 5% of the project at times. I mean the 5% can't affect the 95%. Can it ? its the 95% that controls the price.

Because bounty hunters are only small part of every ICO token holders, normally they get only around 3% of the pool, I believe price dump early stage investors. They have bought tokens in pre-sale phase with big discount and then sell it for profit until tokens get listed in the exchange.

I think it's both bounty hunters and early investors are dumping their coins as soon as a token or coin got into an exchange. Some people just want quick cash as soon as possible or some are dumping because they know that a lot of people will dump too and reinvest in the lowest price. But I think investors play a huge part in the lose of price of a token more than bounty hunters.

I participated in the bounty campaign of a certain project and its been two months after the ICO ended yet this team has still not paid bounty hunters because they think bounty hunters would dump their coins and cause a fall in the coin price. Surprisingly, the coin is still going down even though it is only the investors who hold the coins.

The problem is that there are really no safeguards that has been established to protect the bounty participants. I think that there is always some kind of price manipulation so that once the bounty hunters get their bounties the market has already been manipulated so that the price will go down then the bounty participants will have a choice of selling their coins or tokens cheap or be an investor like them.

people will still say bounty hunter who dump coin earlier. We cannot deny this fact, it is indeed the case. But if the reward bounty in the key, it turns out that the dump is still happening I think there will be no blame because that does dump is an investor. logically investors holding more than token bounty hunter, possible investors did dump gets bigger.

Yeah i agree with you opinion. The blame will get on bounty hunter but sometimes its true. But i dont understand why it can impact the price for a long time. The reward of bounty hunter less rather than investor with bonus. Smart bounty hunter will never sell his reward cheap.

       In this situation  that the coins is already listed in the exchange with a better price and the bounty hunters are being paid one to two months after the ICO then by the time that we were going to trade in the exchange , most of the coins have almost zero value , so it's very clear that the investors are the one dumping first their coins .

I think, its not the investors... those dumpers are bounty hunter and a sort of theft. The investors will not dump the coins specially if they buy it on a high price, they invest to earn not to dump and lose the fight in this market. For example, I don't waste my time to throw my money on ICO and other thing that is related in cryptocurrencies.

Some bounty dump it because they want a real money, not the specific altcoins reward. They dump it to earn a fast tangible money, so the possible thing to prevent this issue is to pay them bitcoin or real local money. What do you think?

I think thats the problem of Bounty hunters. At the moment, if the ICO has reached its soft cap, they are going live on exchanges and there is simply no other investors who want to get the tokens at the ICO price. Bounty hunters are dumping, but anyways, nobody buys at the ICO price.

what bounty hunters and ico investors dump the coin when it is listed initially later the price bounce back when the new developments release

It is obvious that early price dump is caused by bounty hunters. Why do you think that ICO investors sell their tokens? If they sell their coins cheaper, they will loose a lot and thats not the strategy of ICO investors  ;D.

I agree with you, some ICO provide very large purchase bonuses in private sale and pre sale
so when they are listed in exchange and they sell it under ICO prices in my opinion they are still profitable
but the fact is that some ICO think that those who dump are bounty hunters - so sad

You have a point there. Bounty hunters normally don't have that much, even combined, to affect the market by selling their coins/tokens. Nevertheless, I doubt any project would pay bounty hunters earlier because they want to show their investors, of whom they care the most, that they are privileged in many ways, including the time when they can sell some of their coins/tokens.

We cannot clearly say who from these group of people is causing the dump, but one thing I'm sure of, those who want fast money, those are the ones who dump the tokens early. Sometimes, those who are from the team cause the dump. So it's a hasty generalization to speculate who, because there are bounty hunters who believe in the benefit of hodling; same with the investors' group. It's safe to say that those non-believers of the project are the certified dumpers, those who are just after quick profit and don't see the real value of the token in the future. But yeah, it's disheartening for us, hunters, that they are always putting the blame of devaluation on us.

First persons to sell and dump coins are those who receive them first it's quite simple.
Bounty hunters receive coins secondly and investors and early investors at first.
So the price dip is mostly connected with investors dumping as they also have much more coins than bountyhunters do.

Investors buy new tokens during the ICO with bonuses of 40-50 percent. They have the opportunity to prepare for their sale when tokens first hit the market, and sell them, having up to 200 percent of the profits. When the bounty hunters receive their tokens, then, by that time, the tokens, as a rule, have already dropped in price and it becomes meaningless to sell them. I have already seen this more than once. Therefore, the accusation of bounty hunters that it is they who lead to a decrease in the price of new tokens is unfair. In addition, bounty hunters have only a few percent of all tokens, some of which hold their new tokens in the hope that they will grow in value.

It does not bring anything to the ICO investors, when the price drops. They are only losing their funds. But if the bounty hunters are selling their coins below the ICO price, they aren't making loses, they just earning not so much at the end.

I believe that this is bounty hunters, because they are afraid of scamming or price dumping. Usually, dev`s tokens are locked

But as far as I remember, the bounty hunters has a low overall percentage when in comes of collective funds on ICO? So they will not affect too much, unless the investors start to dump the real product itself.

it seems like I look more like opinion. I think that they both affect the price of the dump when the market opens. and the interest of new investors who want to buy the token is small and that's where the role of the developer that should appear in terms of expanding their project to crypto users is out there.

it doesn't matter who the cause is, but indeed ico is not able to compete with other coins in the market, let alone the market is currently very unfavorable for us, well, just advice, after following the bounty, you can hold it until the price of ico is equal or close to the rate during the campaign

It is advisable if project is really active in many ways, such as road show, seminar and transparently doing the fast development of the project. But if not, there will be no hodl for sure. Because the uncertainty of this crypto market is too high than the other market.

More or less, this is case to case basis...

I think both if the ICO investor already got a good bonus out of buying tokens at the ICO. When there is a chance to make easy profit people usually take it so if they like the project they can buy cheaper later.

who really dumps the token is difficult to answer. it is either investors who may want to buy cheap coins through the dump or the ico operators themselves dump a part of the unsold token. there are also bounty hunters who also dump their tokens right away. there are many ways to be responsible for a dump. so it is hard to say who really does it.

And those and others,as among investors there is too cunning did Bautista,I think what he was going to merge quickly the rate will fall others will begin to drain,and he bought very well,these are the thoughts and porazhdaet the panic and low prices on the market,because of these people! just now such a market is still that others are also beginning to think received tokens and urgently drain them until other prices are lowered,and it does not what will not work

ICO investors are the ones who are getting the tokens first,then those bounty hunters lets say both are dumping the prices? would it effect the value ? yes and no because if the team has backup plan with these situations the value wont get dumped fast.This is so normal to our market,all people wants to get profits,make money fast thats why we need to go with the flow so that we wont get hurt when the market dumps.

Why would investors sell coins cheaper than they bought on pre-sale? This is at least illogical. I think that the coins sell large holders who had large discounts for large purchases, but what sells Bautista this course generally has no influence

I've seen both dumping coins. Bounty hunters dumped tokens but early investors dumped as well while bounty tokens were locked.
1-3% isn't that much,so don't blame on bounty participants

I think both have equal parts in dumping of the project. Most persons from bounty hunters including me try to sell when we get our tokens or coins and when it listed at any exchange as there is a chance that in this continued down market, there will be 90% chance that the awarded tokens or coins will be almost de-valued after some time or almost at very, very less price, so we tried to sell them as early as possible leading to dumping price of coin.

The bounty typically doesn't get distributed until after Investors have received tokens and can trade them.

The dump happens from the Pre-ICO or private sale investors because they get massive deals. Like 200% bonus or some crap like that.
A lot of these projects give big bonuses to early investors and then they instant dump for a quick profit, leaving anyone who bought during ICO a complete loser...  Thats why ICO investing right now is a bad idea.

There is already a proven option, of course investors. Because it is very simple when bounty hunters do not pay anything at all and in this case bounty hunters do not take part in the bidding at all. Therefore, I hope that all the same people will change their opinion.

I believe that pre-sale investors dump coins so early once it hit the exchange. Bounty hunters too do the same

Practice shows that there is no difference, since there were quite a lot of projects where tokens were first distributed to investors and they just as immediately put orders, just as the bounty hunters do. Of course it is worth noting that so do not all investors and not all hunters.

It is sad that most project managers have made us to believe that bounty hunters are the real dumpers of which they are not. Let's be sincere here, i still think the real dumpers are Private Investors who get plenty of bonuses attached to their investments. I think that is what most individuals do this days, get in any potential project as private investors, take the risk, buy the token, get the bonus attached to it and even if they sell at a very low rate let say /10 of crowd sale price they will still get their investment back as well as their profits. There are so many projects in the space that go through this and the it is almost impossible for the developers to have control over it. Take for Instance project like Bitnautic, Uchain that did -250% ICO price without any hunters having access to the token because they refuse to distribute till after about 1 month plus after listing in exchange. Investors dumped those tokens and left nothing for hunter to dump.

I do not know why some people just choose to blame bounty hunters for every dump that is done. I have seen lots of coins that got dumped despite bounty hunters not being paid. I participated in a project that has not been listed and bounty hunters have not been paid, but could you believe that it has already been dumped on DEX. The price has reduced by almost x50 the ICO  price.

I bet that Bounty hunters dump early most of the time. Investors are the ones who hold for months and maybe, the reason here is that bounty hunters have a mentality that they don't invest so it won't be a problem selling at a low price given that they would still earn profit despite of being small. Unlike on investors which are aiming for the highest as possible.

I think many people thinks the one that making the price after the ico session over are bounty hunter. but i believe it's not 100% true, we all can see the amount of coins allocated for the bounty reward, usually it won't be more than 5% of the total supply of the coins, so even though all the bounty hunter dump their coins, i think it won't affect the price so much.

I believe not only bounty hunters dump coins early. Since most Ico’s offer bonus during presale some investors sell early to take profit. Mostly users blame bounty hunters for the dump of the price there should be consideration on this case and look for the possible options about the investors.

Its true that bounty hunters dump early in exchange to fiat most times because the feel after working for many months, its to me to take their reward but who dumps more of the tokens? The ICO investors because they have a large chunk of the divide bounty hunters only have 2% most of the time.

Bounty hunters can get 5% or even more depending on the ICO, but the whole point of this thread is that they physically can't sell their coins early because they are not paid for months in order to prevent a possible coin crush because of their selling. I personally think that it's a bit unfair towards the bounty hunters. If not with 100%, they should be paid at least partially in the very early stages because they too deserve fair payment for their job, and not with tokens which worth nothing already.

I don't think bounty hunters are those responsible for dumping coins. It is actually investors because they are able to buy a lot of coins, and dumping it affects the price of the coin greatly. Even though some bounty hunters too dump their coins, they do not have a higher percentage of coins to dump.

I think the ICO investors have more impact when they dump their coins than the bounty hunters. The total token assigned to airdrops and bounty hunters are negligible  that they do not have much impact when dumped by the bounty hunters but when investors dump their coins the impact is more

I think it's the bounty hunter who's trying to take it off first. Because they do not invest in any material as they see what they see as profit. Investors do not leave their money without making a profit.

   I also received tokens today. The amount is just ridiculous ...)))) But I am very happy because I am an incurable optimist) I will spend them today - I’ll go to the movies with the girl)

I don't think so if it is us, bounty hunters, who dump the coins or tokens. I believe those investors who participated in private sale or pre-sale who got big bonuses are the reasons why the coins' value drops. Well, even if they dump those bonuses they got it is still a profit for them no matter how cheap the price is.

Investor who early listed on the whitelist and manage to get amount of great discount and bonuses are the winner here. But we can't remove the early bonuses cause that's what early Investor should received as early adopter perks. The people who lose here are those who joined on main sale and didn't received any bonuses.

Well in this condition almost everyone is think about once coin is listed on the exchange and of price going down below the ico price then everyone is thinking that bounty hunters selling their token. But I am not totally agree about it. May be some bounty hunters can sell their token but its not more effective. Bounty hunters also know the project possibilities and they also know that what is the worth of holding coin. So bounty hunters is not only the responsibility of dump. Its a bad marketing or so many AIRDROPs token is responsible. Airdrop is different from bounty. In airdrop you get free token but in the bounty you need to do a task for getting token. So if project is based on the airdrop then it could be bad.

Both and neither of them. There are flippers, who invest in ICOs then sell when they're released to the exchanges. But there are hodlers too. Also some bounty hunters hodl their coins (I hodl some projects I trust).

But actually everyone is here for big returns. If they earn something, they will sell and we cannot say anything about it.

But to be honest, I'm pretty mad at ICO investors who sell for 10-20% profit. ICOs were giving 3x 5x returns you idiots. Just find a good project and wait a little. (and a good market of course) 

In my opinion, it is not fair to blame bounty hunters, because the amount of coins they receive is not enough to manipulate the project!

l must agree with you that bounty hunters are not the real dumpers but earliest investors are the real dumpers. my my personal research l made so far without bounty , we still experience dump on the market. looking at the statistics of percentage been award to bounty hunters is very minima compare to the investors  and team . most dumps comes from earliest investors because they buy are very low price and they have huge percentage of them selling at the same time . also out of greed some team member dump the coin and leave the project and the if they are the key persons on the project you will see a steady dump continuously without any hope of reversal.

I think most of the dumpers are bounty hunters. They can sell their tokens for very cheap prices. And also you are right. The early investors can do the same..

I'm sure it's the bounty hunters. In most cases, those people who participate in the bounty are absolutely illiterate and do not understand the cryptocurrency market. They do not hesitate to sell all their coins, and try to do it faster than other members of the bounty campaign.

Did you pay attention to the number of tokens that are sold on the exchange? Practically always they correspond to awards which were received by hunters. And investors are waiting for the time when the token will rise in price. So very often the price is brought down by the bounty hunters.

for me most of the bounty hunter's drop their coins early because when they see that the price of the token goes down then they're going to dump it all.

Every time we can not blame bounty hunters that bounty hunters dump the coins. But every ICO does not give huge bonuses there can be some other reasons as well on the other hand we can say who bought huge amount of tokens during ICO with bonus they can also affect the market to sell their coins for meager profit. But on the contrary some bounty hunters does not hold the coins they sell their coins immediately the moment coin get listed on the exchange. In my opinion both dumps according to the market conditions.

Bounty hunters could be the 1st, bounty hunters would not have much information compare earlier investor. investor usually wait for the market move abit before they start releasing their coin.

Of course investors throw the received bonus during ICO. Imagine you bought tokens at $100,000 and got a + 50% bonus from the purchased, what would you do? I will answer for myself: I would sell the bonus without hesitation!!!  So do investors, I'm sure.

You are absolutely right! Mostly tokens or coins are poured out by early investors or funds, which entered at the beginning of the ICO and received an excellent discount of up to 50%, and sometimes more. Next, let's turn our attention to the number of tokens allocated to the bounty program. This percentage of tokens can not significantly affect the price of the token on the stock exchanges, because if ico was successful and the product is right and promising, tokens usually buy up than raise the price even higher. And if the price falls and falls aimingly, then of course it is not a matter of the bounty participants. It's just very convenient for many ico to blame the bounty participants for their failure.

It is my prediction who is dump coin earlis ? This answer is hunters .becouse hunters wont to get profit soon.they get coin free not buying, so they feel get profit regardless of coin price.they will sell their coin to get money.so price of coin to going down.

I think that most of the participants in the Bounty companies value their work and therefore not all sell tokens immediately after distribution. Especially, the company's overall bounty averages 2% for each bounty company, and such a volume of coins cannot affect the overall pricing of the token.

Bounty amount which is distributed to participants is only 2 to 5 % max if bounty hunters dump there coins then also it will not affect the prise that much. Main dumpers are the big players who dump there coins in big amount which cause the coin prise to go down bellow ico prise.

The answer is pretty simple, see, of course, yes, I agree that participants in bounty companies sell tokens immediately after receiving, but investors also sell tokens immediately, namely bonus tokens that receive everything, and so the volume of tokens selling is so sharp. entering the stock exchange immediately falls

I think most of bounty hunters sell the bounty reward with the high price but nobody would take it because big investor is put their buy in low price so many bounty hunter is worried if they can't sell the coin so they put the price down so they can sell it and the big investor have a lot of coin without paying more than they should pay

Trading volumes that bounty hunters commit are insignificant compared to the number of coins investors buy. Therefore, investors, which, in turn, are affected by the market, have the greatest influence on the price of coins.

Investors will go first to dumped their tokens in ico because they wi distribute first the token of investor after that bounty hunter will dump.
But it depends if the token will listed already after end of the ico so they can trade their coin.

I thought there would be no one who would make this thread, it turns out now that I see it, I will share also a little of what I see, many people feel bounty hunters drop prices in exchange of course that's not entirely true, we all see gifts very little for bounty hunters, I think it would make sense if investors threw out their ICO bonuses to drop prices to panic and buy them cheaply from bounty workers

Lot of ICO tokens are being dumped once it is listed on crypto exchange/s , I think it is some people are immediately sell it once they knew that it is available for trading. If the tokens are distributed to the bounty hunters as a rewards before it was listed then we can say that the bounty hunters are the ones who dumps it but if not, then they aren't. It is just a matter of understanding the situation before blaming people who didn't do so.

Nobody will dump the coin but their own investors. Bounty hunters are just a scapegoat of those who dump the coin. The allocation for the bounty participants are too small to affect the price in the market.

I think both do, bounty hunters and early investors who get the tokens or coins at a discount. The bounty hunters will dump asap as most of them do. I unfortunately have not received almost anything the last few months from bounties, so I have empty wallets with a ton of useless tokens also that have never reached or will reach an exchange. I do know though that if you are a good trader you can pick up some coins or tokens cheap then make a lot of money off them when they get pumped, but it is all a risk and a gamble.

That's true, I'm sure the bounty hunters are the victims and they have to bear the consequences if the token's price falls because they receive it for free. In fact, the dumped people are those who participate in public sale and per sale

I believe bounty hunters aren't the cause of dump of price of token, investors who got huge bonuses dump token price in most cases, i am an hunter i don't sell below the value of token during ico i think hunters are accused blindly.

I think that bounty hunters or investors are not to blame for this situation, as the bearish market has been continuing for a long time, they want to cash in whatever value they get of their coins.

I don't think investors will sell when prices haven't reached the purchase price. Unlike bounty hunters, they get free and there will be no losses, so bounty hunters feel free to sell at the price they want. Bounty hunters shouldn't do this. Developers and cheating teams can also dump, even those who have more coins than bounty hunters and investors.

The answer is obvious, bounty hunters has the tendency to sell their coin early. I don't blame them for the fact that it takes a while before a bounty hunter can earn money. If you are treating bounties as another source of income, you will surely consider selling early as all of us has bills to pay. Only people with family will understand this and those who were crying might be an adult living alone or with their parents that is why they don't know how money works when you have a responsibility.  Just saying. 8) I also want to mention that bounty hunters have every right to sell their coin. They don't need anyone's approval.

We can't really say whether is the bounty hunter or the investors that is dumping the coin. Definitely there will be some bounty hunters and some investors that does that and we should not be bias on either side. I guess it boil down to how the person think of the value of that coin.
 

I guess for those who think that every job they have done must get the money that they want, they will not sell the token Most bounty hunters have thought about this, they see in the condition of ICO in 2017 which is very promising so they will patiently wait for market recover and make these tokens increase.

I think the hunter bounty is the one who made the dump first. the logic is that when they all get distributed tokens and have been launched on the market exchange, they will immediately sell everything. investors will definitely wait for a higher value, because they have already issued capital first for investment and at the end of the period they certainly want a higher exchange rate, so they will hodl longer than the bounty hunter.

It may be wrong to put the blame of price devaluation on bounty hunters especially when tokens allocation for early/private investors comes with huge bonuses, yet without a lockup period.

That's not to say that bounty hunters do not dump, but I think the dumping effect is the thing that matters now, so as to know who is contributing the bigger dump that is negatively affecting the token price.

I think it is both groups of people who are dump tokens fast. Part of the bounty hunter and part of the investors who bought their tokens with a bonus and still make profit. when the two come together, a dump is created, which is followed by more and more people.

Certainly they are investors because investors are entitled to first trade.
Just look at how the distribution of the bounty token is around one month after the coin ICO list on the Exchange.

bounty hunters are not able to reduce the price so much, since they have only 2-3% of the coins of the total number, and this is a very small percentage. I am convinced that the price falls due to the fact that early investors sell their bonuses.

From my experience it depends on the situation. I experienced before that the dev itself sold first before the investors so basically it is a scam. There are tons of ICO projects nowadays and most of them are scam. Also i think that one factor affecting the price is the early listing in exchanges while the ICO is still ongoing.

Hunters might / may contribute to that but this is always done by investors who bought huge then went to the market and dumped and then putting it on the hunters

maybe it's true that the bounty hunters who dumped coins shortly after the ICO finished, but not all hunters did that, I see today there have been many hunters who have very broad insights, so they have a mature calculation in selling their coins or tokens produce from the prize. and I also see there are also investors who are doing things that are too rushed. so in this case we cannot blame blame on the bounty hunter.

It depends on who was first distributed, but if for investors I am sure they will think repeatedly if they want to make a token dump market, unless the investor has benefited when selling.
Based on my experience, if the token is already listed then they only put a little volume then bounty hunter who only get a small allocation want sell and that causes a decrease. Even though the bounty hunter get small allocation that's making dump because when the dev listing only gives a small volume and the rest is how crypto users are interested in these tokens to rise volume.

I guess it all depends how the team manages the distribution of tokens that do. now many token part bounty hunter who do lock for months to benefit investors. but the reality is investors also do dump, probably from the bonus that investors receive from the ico investment. Judging has indeed reasonable if the price becomes a dump when ico token listed on exchanges, either do so investors or bounty hunter I guess all have part of a downturn that occurred.

Ico investors usually save their assets longer and expect the price to rise but if the investor is a newbie then they also have a sense of panic and are not reluctant to hesitate to dump. Bounty hunters usually do it at the end of the game.

We don't know who is selling coins early. If you are experiencing a fraudulent project, then the ICO team is the one that sells the project. This is the most terrible. Obviously it is not suitable for investing in ICO now, unless you are an expert.

Most of the time who are blame for dumper of the coins earlier was the bounty hunters but maybe that is true but it depends of the situition there are also times that the ICO investors are doing they same thing we don't know if they have an emergency of money that is why they want to sell their coins right away.

For me and I think its is the pre sale investors with big bonuses who are the one who dumps the tokens early because they are the ones who receive token first and has no holding period. Unlike with the bounty hunter where they receive their payments after 30 to 60 days from the ico sale (the earliest worst after 6 months of the ico sale).

Why not both ? I think there are reasons why and how people sell the coins early. Now bounty hunters are people who work to get that money whereas ico investors pay to get those tokens, basically ico investors are paying the bounty hunters to get their coins heard so they can sell it for more.

Considering this, I think bounty hunters tend to sell earlier, these people do not have money enough to invest themselves so they try to sell as much as they can as quickly as they can so they could have some money. These are people from third world countries like me who see 50 dollars as another week of living so when they get paid they try to sell it right away and pay for bills and rent.

Whereas many ICO investors are people who obviously have money and spend it on ICO so they could make more of it, which means even if some of them sell, most of them keep it so they can sell it for x3-x4 or whatever they feel is right and make more money than they got in. However they may sell quicker if the price skyrockets before coins even come to any good exchange, if that happens then both sell very quickly.

I think that bounty hunters are selling their coins earlier and this is why, hunters have worked for several months to get their rewards and due to the market, they want to earn some ETH or BTC, because in the most cases the coin dumps and never recovers.

I think i once saw something of this nature. In all sincerity, most projects i have seen, investors are the ones that do the dump most. Well bounty hunters may dump too, but that will not in anyway affect the price of the coin to cause a dip.

actually they could more be patient, coins price would not dumped and price going down.they did this cause they have no earning source beside bounty reward.so they would sell their reward although in low price.

Both coin investors and bounty hunters could be dumpers, it really depends on the person himself. I myself have been participating in bounties but I have also been holding my coins. Athough Ive dump some of it, but there are also coins Ive hold for long time. And I think this goes for investors too, they could dump or hold their tokens.coins.

Investors are tearing down the market. They buy tokens at a big discount. Receive bonus in tokens. Let's say + 30%. Then they just start selling it massively. When hunters get their 2% and go to the stock exchange token is not worth nothing ( :'(

I think bounty hunters and ico investors both reason for dump any token price. But I know some of them don't like to sell their token earlier.

It depends of there is a lock for bounty or pre-sale participants.
Long story short both are dumpers and have reason to make it , but hunters have smaller amount of tokens, so they can't dump drastically.

Most people are in the space to make money.  Most of these ICOs and coins have no real value so dumping is the best way to make a profit

I do not want to defend bounty hunters, most of them probably truly sell the token as soon as they get it, but investors do the same thing, and there are much more token given to investors, than to bounty hunters. If the bounty rewards can truly dump the price, than the ICO is just as responsible IMO, did something very badly.

I think both did the coins dump but most of the dumper is from bounty hunters who made a free token reward from their bounty activities campaign because they get it free so they can sell it when the got it in the first time of distribution. I know that because some of my friends did that. correct me if i was wrong. thanks

Investors and participants in the bounty sell, but not all. Everything depends on the project, because many projects grow in price after entering the stock exchange, for example, XYO.

Theoretically, it is not profitable for none of the others to roll off the rate of tokens, and even more so bounty hunters usually do not receive such huge payments to at least somehow influence the course of the coin!

Most of the bounty hunters are working for their rewards considering that their reward is their only income for them...so they have to sell the coins in order to live.

I think this is an eternal argument. Everyone puts a hand to the fall of the coin. Even the project team and developers. Do not forget that the team of bounty managers also get their Tokin. And unlike us, they are the first to know where a coin is being traded and dump it with the whole team.

U believe that this is a result of both parties contributing to this price shift downwards of coins/token in the market after the bounty periods. We have noticed that in some projects, bounties are delayed to be paid to hunters so as not to go "DUMP" as usually associated with the bounty hunters and even in some cases, coins/tokens from bounties are locked for some periods even after given to you, however, this doesn't really keep the price upwards as we've have seem in past ICOs. So I don't really think it's only the hunters that usually dump, investors dump too especially immediately after the ICOs basically from all the bonuses to recoup some of their investment, so I believe both parties are responsible for this.

I realize you have a good point asking this type of speculations between hunters and investors. Bounty hunters get only a portion of the allocated amount of token while investors can get as many to invest and dump for even more profit. So it's the investors who make the price of the coin or token down because they hold more than the bounty hunters token which are limited.

In fact, the amount of tokens that Bounty hunters dump when this coin is listed on market is not so much, just be a very small number per total tokens supply in market. So, if say that because of bounty hunters make the price go down seem like not right

Lower the price of new tokens and investors, and bounty hunters. However, the influence of investors on this process is much greater than the influence of bounty hunters. Many investors buy new tokens in the course of ICO with big discounts only to immediately sell them on the exchange at the price of ICO and have almost double the benefits. Bounty hunters have a significantly smaller amount of tokens and, as you have noticed correctly, they receive these tokens in their wallets, as a rule, when this token has already fallen in price on the exchange. So it makes no sense to blame bounty hunters. In general, if the project is very promising, then it is unlikely that everyone will so massively throw off their new tokens, if there is a chance that these tokens will grow in value.

Bounty hunter now recieve their tokens very late.
I dont understand how investors can buy high and sell low.
So there is devs left, they claim some part of selling on ico tokens and dump it

to be honest, given the same conditions, it's more likely that the bounty hunters dumped, rather than investors. however, in ur case, the token price was alrdy down even before distribution to bounty hunters. in this case, it's just ico investors or maybe even early-stage contributors (some projects were funded partially even before ico) who sold, taking the sentiments in the market into account.

Its partly the bounty hunters and partly the investors. Inability of many ICO to reach hard cap is what makes huge dump by hunters to drastically affect the price of the token. Most ico allocate averagely 1% of the token sale for the bounty hunters, if this is so then 1% of hardcap is relatively small amount but due to the fact that most ICO struggle to even reach softcap then amount allocated to hunters influence the price of the token. many ico also given more than 50% discount to investors. such huge discount can also affect the token when it hit exchange

I strongly agree with your opinion. Even the prizes earned by bounty hunter are not worth the bonus earned by investors. but that's where the victory for those who have a lot of money. Those who have a lot of money are always treated in a special way. I think ICO will always stay like this. Dump and more dump again

In my opinion, bounty awards are not distributed enough to affect the price. But the bonus rates set for ICO investors are very unfair. Some projects deliver 100% or more bonuses. In this environment, the price of that coin will be reduced by at least half.

Moreover, these ICO investors sell their coins instantly with the bonus they receive for every USD. I think the token that is distributed at least as bonuses should be locked.

Bounty hunters for sure. It makes absolutely no sense for the ICO investors to dump their coins, because they have actually invested their own money to gain profit. Bounty hunters invested their time and effort but no real money.

I think dump and the first and second because whoever first will sells that will earn more. For the first and the second only interested in money only. If you say who more collapses the course then I think it's investors because they have more coins in their hands and bounty hunters do not have that much

bounty hunter, they don't buy but get rewards from ico tokens, then they sell everything right away.

the first one to throw a token might be an ico investor, because he first got the token and after that a bounty hunter.

There are different situations, there will always be bounty hunters who will sell tokens for pennies and thus will kill the price of the token, many investors also do this for various reasons, and many companies do it too, it has all been tested many times and proven.

In my opinion most of the dumpers are ICO investors.

In my opinion, to avoid a decrease in the price of the coin, it is necessary to freeze them for some time after the distribution. I don't think bounty hunters are in a hurry to sell their coins right away because promising projects have a chance to beat the price of a coin on an ICO. So many of the bounty hunters stick to the HODL strategy. At that time, investors are trying to get rid of bonus coins to protect themselves and cover part of the costs in case the project is not successful.

Most likely you think correctly and bounty hunters have nothing to do with discharges!

If FBG Capital or Ian Balina are in than yes! They will dump before bounty hunters ;D Be careful with loud shillers and funds

In 2018 this has been proven that the myth about bounty hunters are lie that they dump tokens on exchange with plenty of projects like fiiicoin, mevu, seal, gamestar, hyperquant etc. This projects delaying payment of hunters or distribution late payments to hunter & the price are these token are down too hard. Actually still now a days project fear of mass dumping of their token & some projects give excuses like we developing Website for bounty hunters KYC & after successful verification blah blah to hold tokens of hunters. The sad realty is most of the pre sale buyers dump token on the exchange as they get huge discounts at the time of token sale & hunters get the blame but the truth is out already.

I don't think anyone knows who dump coins early whether bounty hunters or ICO investors. Because there are a lot of factors that could affect the dumping of coins in the early stage. Like if the person who joined bounties or ICO investors really need money right now, I think they will just dump it because it is unnecessary to think about the future anymore.

Bounties are usually just almost from .5-5% of the total supply of a project. So, I guess, it is too small to really affect the price of a coin/token once it is distributed. I don't know why some admins or even investors are blaming or bounty hunters for the decline in price. There are a lot of investors who have a huge chunk of tokens because they bought it at early stage where discount and offers are massive.

Since both are holders of coins, both have the opportunity to dump the coins according to their needs and preferences, some bounty hunters are large holders of a coins and so does investors, but once they both sell their coins at the same time, the price of the coin will surely drop.

I think the collapse of the price is the work of all together (investors, advisers and bounty hunters). Most often, the one who first receives tokens, the first to sell these tokens. Only bounty hunters can not affect the price of tokens so much!

This is an interesting question. I don't think we can separate ICO investors and bounty hunters about this. I know many people from both sides who sometimes dump or pupm some coins.

It is very clear that the ICO investors are the one who get the coins first and as they are also getting coins in discount due to investing pattern, so even if they sell on the market price they are still in profit. So their is no doubt that the main cause of the dump is the ICO investors and to escape Bounty Hunters are name as escape Goat. When every one know that bounty hunters are the one who gets the coin in the last when the market is totally gone down and they even sell it as they are getting this coin as free without investment and the group of whales take this benefit and grab the coins in low and then pump the price and sell in high. So this is the pattern of the ICO runs in starting after that as the project is getting success the coin price also climbs.

the current market situation is very volatile because therefore every new token that is exchanged will dump, I think the cause is there are many factors, both investors and bounty hunters are interrelated in decreasing the selling value of the token.

The issue of reduced token prices is due to two main factors. early sale of tokens by investors and lack of experience in project financial management. projects are always underestimated and their real value is always lower than the ICO price because devs have used the money of investors to use for other purposes. Investors cannot manage their portfolios and that is the only weakness that makes projects fail.

I agree with you on this, most people have this misconception that it's bounty hunters that dump and devalue most altcoins. What about projects that don't do bounties or airdrop and still dump, is it bounty hunters also?
The reason why most project dump is because of the large amounts of bonus the team have given to investors.

Well that is the picture they've painted out there that its hunters who dump their coins of which i don't really support since a small percentage is shared among these hunters. I wil side with you since the bonus they get sometimes can compensate their loss they go that low. So hunters always don't dump sometimes investors are the cause.

Why there are so many people that always blame  bounty hunters? If the team has a good strategy, they won't let this happen. Because the token volume from the bounty is very small compared to the amount they sell. Some weak teams even blame the hunter, even though the token has not yet been distributed to the hunter. That's funny  :-\

I do not think so, people that dump early are probably investors in ico because they often receive early token from the developers of the project,
especially they buy tokens at relatively low value and buy with a large number, and of course, after tokens are listed and profitable, they often sell early because they know good prices will not be maintained for too long when many other investors will sell their token. While bounty hunters are innocent when they receive tokens very late and often their rewards are locked, they take a long time to sell token, although they contributed to the dump, it was not entirely their fault

I think a large 90%+ of both investors and bounty holders are dumping the moment they can. So, it depends how the distribution is done. Usually, the investors get their tokens first and have advantage of days or weeks to dump, before bounty hunters receive their tokens.

Its true. Investors gets more than 25% bonus when they buy on presale and they know exactly if the bounties are distributed the bounty hunters are also going to make the market dip which very logical to jsut dump what they profit from the presale and may double their profit right after bounties are dumped too. But this is just something that is happening today because the entire market really is also bleeding since the first months of last year.

Well, I think everybody involved in crypto get their coins all dump. Well, is this normal? Unfortunately, this is the fact that we must face this day. Crypto market is changing, this is collapsing. Every coin from ICO always falls after they are ready on the exchange. The bounty hunters will need more months to receive their rewards. It is absolutely sad.

In some sense, bounty hunters, yes. They dump the coins and I directly saying it. Well, we cannot blame bounty hunters on this as they put up their time and effort for the profit. But the investors as well, and that I think the problem is in the team.

Before bounty hunters used to dump coins now times change bounty hunters are holding  the coins and some ico companies are paying bounty hunters on time bases after icos listed in exchangers

Both groups are dumping . Hunters are dumping as not all of them is connected to project and when getting the
bounty reward dumping their coins on DEX-es for an ice cream. Early investors from private sales and pre sale
with 80% bonuses also dumping their coins. We have projects where the hunters were not paid when the coin
entered the market and it`s price crashed with 90% comparing to ICO price. Sometimes the dev. teams are also
involved into dumping activities.

Both, but not everyone is dumpers! Some bounty hunter sell their rewards too early without thinking about the real value of their tokens! And some presale investors, who bought a coin with a big bonus! But bounty hunters have only 1-2% of the total coin, so, they can't dump for a long time, the real dumpers are from the ICO investors I assume.

Previously, the ICOs had only one phase, after a while, two phases were constituted, but nowadays, apparently there are several stages and it extends for months! This time extension allows for many advantages or disadvantages over this period, of course, today I see people who bought Phase 1 as a problem, these people usually get tokens from 2x to 4x cheaper when sales "really start." Formerly, the rewards campaigns were generous, today crumbs are paid. Do not blame the bounty hunters. ::)

It doesn't matter who among the two are dumpers, the sell will be picked up if the project is really that good, dumpers will always dumpers be they investors and bounty hunters as long as the project is good it will eventually get up.

The reason is on the situation and conditions, investors don't want to lose too much so they sell as much as they have and the biggest problem is no trader is interested in buying the coin from that projects.

I think the first to dump the price of a token is an investor, because usually the first token that is distributed is an investor token and usually investors get such a large bonus when buying tokens at ICO

Oh, I see. then After investors do that, but is it for bounty hunters there is still a chance to throw their tokens too?

usually distribution start from investor and then bounty hunter.but it depend on developers decision too.did they lock token for bounty hunter or not.if bonus distributed in same time it could make investors dump their token too.

There is also chance that the investors dumping the coins after it get listed on the market. The reason is, the early investors get so many bonus coins becase they purchase the coins early, so in case of who is the first to dump the coins when it hit the market is still not clear.

well, in general, investors are the first people to share the existing tokens, and those who first trade. well, but, not infrequently, severe dumps occur when distribution for bounty hunters is done. therefore, many suggest that bounty hunters be paid using ETH, or Bitcoin. but, still, it can reduce trading activities on a project.

Yes, I agree with that developers also or a team that hodl 80% of coins are in their wallet they can easily manipulate the price so that they will accuse the bounty hunters dump their coins.

Investors invest there money in a particular ICO for huge profits and on the long run not all icos will be successful ,many icos even lose value after getting listed on exchange so investors are forced to hold for sometimes but bounty hunters get paid through hardworking ,spreading news about the project that's why I think it will be easier for bounty hunters to dump

The blame on bounty hunters is just totally weird and untrue, just imagine i think d highest bounty percentage I have seen is about 1-5% and let's say the rest 95% goes to the investors and team, I honestly dont see any reason why selling 1-5 percent would affect any project, this is part of the unity we bounty hunters need and fight against this injustice, they just come up with this rules to cheat us out of our rewards or for us to make as little as possible

Which ico are you speaking of? I think what you're asking depends on when hunters get their tokens. If market is being oversold before hunters have received their tokens then its definitely not hunters, if it gets oversold after distribution then you may say hunters may be slightly to blame but have you ever looked at how much percentage of total is given to hunters? its less than 5% and less than 2% in most cases so even if they do sell it, it should hardly affect the market. Those who hold most control the market and its never bounty hunters.

No absolute, I think bounty hunters and ICO investors are likely to sell coins. The current cryptocurrency market is sluggish, leading to a lack of confidence among investors. this is normal phenomenon. Maybe this can change when Bitcoin takes off again.

Usually we believe that the cause why the token are dump because of the bounty hunter. Why we say thay because the bounty hunters only their capital to earn token is their hardwork and time and have account but the ICO investor are have capital and the token liated to the market increase little maybe the ICO incestor wait more months but bounty hunters sell all their token because what ever the price they will get profit.

Ico investor dump early than others , most of this ICOs give investor there token first and give them chance to sell before bounty hunter.

in my opinion it is most likely that dumping coins / token listings on an exchange is part of a bounty hunter and investor. for bounty hunters they want to get paid quickly by exchanging their coins into real currency, while investors want to get quick profits by selling their purchase of tokens plus bonuses

Some developers actually believe that bounty hunters are all dumping their coins, so we are now seeing developers locking bounty hunters rewards for several months before they can be traded, sometimes the coins losses it's value before the bounty hunters can transfer their coins

do you think that big investors will dump tokens to earn small profit while they can earn huge money if the project will grow?

 ICO investors are the major dumpers of tokens, this is because the tokens are released to them first before bounty hunters. and some of the investors who received heavy bonus during ico do rush and dump without looking back .

In general, the bounty hunter caused a dump of tokens, and until now I believe that the bounty hunter is the main cause of the dump token. Because most ICO projects pay bounty hunters before their token list in exchange, so that when the token has been listed in exchange they (bounty hunters) sell their tokens even below the ICO price.

In my experience, coins are listed on exchanges before the coins are distributed to bounty hunters. Even in this case the coins ​​are dumping. Those who drop the first price, people who buy coins with a very cheap price from pre-sale.

Maybe the reason is that sometimes projects do not bring the result that everyone expected, and therefore we see such a result!

This is only possible, since most have words from these purchases. Maybe it's because this project hasn't worked now because of suspected fraud, but I believe in the future it might be priced, so I'm not too worried  ;D

I also think like you, there are some investors who buy coins in large numbers and they have a bonus, which is the reason why the coin price is reduced, the percentage of tokens for bounty hunters is not too much, it's just about 5% or less , they should not blame the bounty hunters

It is all about liquidity issues on listed exchange. Investors prefer to hold if they are really in project for adding more value to their portfolio. Bounty hunters are placed on other side of puzzle. Dump is almost unavoidable during bloody market crash days.

Always on my experience sold people who invested in the project from the beginning , and then of course already sell hunters

Hunters are always blamed for dumping their coins when it appears on the exchanges and it is with reason. But early birds investors also dump their coins and taking profit. The easiest way is to blame the hunters when the coin crashes for different reasons.

That's why I say "the reason is in situations and conditions", no one holds their assets especially investors, in this bearish market you still hold your assets, you will be killed by the market.
if investors still hold their assets maybe only a few percent are not all, they want to get back the amount they invested.
just as we invest in project A, we believe if this project is very legitimate for the long term. but in reality the market is not on your side, do you still want to hold your assets from project A even though this project is promising? I guess not, you will sell it little by little to cover your losses, even if you have decided to choose a long-term investment.
remember when you invest you get a bonus, you can still hold your bonus or you sell your bonus to cover your losses.
by the way I agree with your word if talking about bounty hunter.

It's quite strange but both parties are at fault. Most of the times dumping is blamed upon only bounty hunters but investors who also get huge bonuses are also responsible for dumping. I believe issuing lock up period upon tokens or coins distribution would really help curb the huge dump that projects suffers when listed on exchanges.

I personally think that this may be the project side behind. When they make enough money from investors, they will pretend to raise the market price and then dump the token to earn more money. They are always greedy.

It's obvious - smart people

The truth is that almost everyone wants to dump as soon as possible to earn some fast bucks. Every category of people who have the tokens have the degree of effect they could have on the token price. First and foremost, all the bounty hunters combined most often don't have more than 2% of the total tokens generated, this directly means they have the least effect. In comes those who participated in the private sales and earned as much as 50% bonus, it is clear that they have a greater effect on price.

In comes the project team and founders who hold the bulk of generated tokens, they definitely want to cash out fiat. This leads to extremely large quantities being dumped. I am of the opinion that the team members cause most price dump.

In the current weak market conditions, I think everyone when they get a token they will immediately throw it away. But they also need not be blamed for the situation that forced them to immediately sell coins. We can see it in late 2017 and early 2018 when the price of coins increases they save more tokens. Because they know that the price of coins will definitely rise.

I think the Bounty participants will discard the token first, because for now waiting for the price to rise is very difficult and boring, so when seeing the price is quite good in the market, chances are that Bounty participants will immediately sell it.

The number of tokens assigned to a bounty event typically does not exceed 5% of the total token. I believe that even if all hunters sell tokens, it will not lead to a long-term decline in token prices.

The bounty hunters have only 1-2% of total supply but ICO investors have a huge quantity of coins and they dump their coins to get profits. Bounty hunters sell will not make much effect as they have very little quantity of coins.

Usually once an ICO is over and their tokens are already listed on crypto exchange/s, the starting price is always good but at the time passed by, it's price is decreasing or being dumped. When dumping had occur, people always blame bounty hunters , but not all the time , bounty hunters are not the ones who are responsible for it, for the reason that sometimes the ICO tokens are being dumped but the rewards for bounty campaign is not yet distributed.

I think both. There are whales or investors who buy coins during ICO with intentions to sell when the crypto hits the market. Also, bounty hunters join campaign with the intention also to sell their rewards once they hit the market. That is why coin managers should create a program that the will only allow both to sell only their crypto gradually else the value in the market will go down.

I faced both cases of dumping coins by bounty hunters and ICO investors. To my mind investors have much more impact on price of token, because all of them have higher share of tokens rather than bounty hunters. Investors receive coins with huge bonuses they can easily dump!

IMO both tends to dump, these days shitty ICOs are giving 80 to 100% discounts, so investors also tends to sell off there stash.

A very tiny percentage of total's market supply will never affect the whole market of that coin.

It's certain a whale who dumps that coin should be the one to be blamed.

A person who have not invested money for coins rather earn by the bounty campaign work that will be the first person for dump the coin because no any real investors will not ready to down the coins market value. So, there is less chance to that ico investors will dump the coins.

Nobody wants to dump their coins, it is only happening due to the market conditions, because each token is losing its price after the first listing and bounty hunters are trying to earn at least something from their hard work.

I am glad to see people began to understand how bounty hunters influence the price after the ICO.
(The answer — no way).
Bounty hunters get from 0.5 to 2% of the pool recently.
And these 2 percent can not affect the price.
I see one big reason for falling prices in last time.
Panic.
People are too afraid to lose everything lately.
Therefore, everyone (bounty hunters and investors) sell their coins immediately after listing on exchanges.

I agree on that i believe that it is not only bointy hunter who dump tokens after it will get listed. O also believe that ico investors also dump thier tokens specially they already get bunoses from the investors coin or R maybe token, if they buy more token with the bunoses they can earn on it even if it will only listed with low a low price as long as it will not listed under ICO price.

Well it's the stigma that comes with a bounty hunter I guess. I don't really care what people think in the end.

This question has very old roots, and this question has already had a lot of controversy, which I also applied here. Here it is necessary to rely directly on the project and see what bonuses investors receive and what payments bounty hunters receive.

Bounty hunters for sure, because why should any investor sell their coins below the ICO price? It does not make sense at all and I would never do it. Hunters are trying to get their rewards converted into ETH or BTC ASAP.

Both I can say, they are both people, with different mindset but same focused on gaining income and afraid that the price of the token will going to go down so they both sell it immediately.

There are many factors that make the price of the token lower than the ICO price. Market is the most important factor, in 2018 the price of all tokens is lower than ICO because of fear of collapse of the BTC, so bounty hunters do not affect too much to ICO price.

I do not think that bounty hunters can greatly affect the price of the coin, for example 2 percent of the pool is allocated to reward hunters, that ended the company and the hunters sold the coins, and the price of the token went To x 10 to the bottom, the maximum hunters can reduce the price by 2 percent, but not 500 percent. My opinion is that the price of all crypto is tied to the bitcoin king, because the price of tokens is determined in bitcoins, here bitcoin falls and the price of tokens goes for it.

Personally, I don't think either of them, just when the market goes down. The value of tokens of ICOs is too high, and of course, when listing the exchange, everything will be right as its current value

In most cases it is the ICO investors who usually receive their tokens months before the bounty hunters receive theirs and also they usually receive huge bonuses especially if you took part in the private sale.

Yes, probably both investors and bounty participants at the same time! Many people believe that the bountists are stupid and sell everything at once, but this is a misconception. Many of them wait for months to sell.

Both of them have a responsibility about the dump,
And about bounty participants are waiting for months to sell it is not correct at all, most bounty hunters are looking for a quick gain. That was why the price got dumped instantly as soon as it gets listed on any exchange. We can not deny it, only a handful people did that. But the majority did not do that because they need money as soon as possible to pay their needs.

i think most of all dumpers are ICO investors.Because in ICO's they bought the coins for more than they value ,after they will got much rewards in initial days. so ,usually they dump all the rewards coins to recover their investment.  

Ah thats right, its not about you are bounty hunters or ICO investors. But, its all about your personality how to manage your token/coin which you got from new altcoins.

The fact is that today the company ico and bounty companies bring very little revenue, compared to 2016. People are accustomed to making good money and therefore they sell everything they can to get at least some money.

Just as some would say it's the bounty hunters that dumps early much in the market just as soon a particular token is been listed. But I would like to say that, we should know that a small portion is always allocated for every bounty and I don't see from this statistic that it's the bounty hunters that get to destroy the market for a certain project but I would say it's the ICO buyer because they're the one's that buys a larger part of the token and that's where the so called WHALES comes into play

My take on this is both bounty hunters and investors dumped the tokens after listing. Not all have the same goal as the other. Some have longer term and short term goals. Investors and bounty hunters have families they need to sell the tokens in order to feed the family and to buy some for our own.

The first to drop the price are those who first receive coins, as a rule, these are investors, the distribution of coins is always a priority for them, and I think that this is correct. Sell coins immediately or hold for better times, everyone chooses himself.

We cannot blame bounty hunters and investors when selling tokens. Because everyone, like that bounty hunter or investor has the right to sell or hold each other's rights. Of course what we think is for us personally. If you have the potential to benefit in the future, of course we will hold back. But if not, why should we stand it.

I think that who will have the opportunity to sell first, he will sell, as quite often first get investors and sell almost immediately, although I do not understand why, since they do not get more money than invest (in the last year), but still drain.

I believe that project managers totally know the amount of tokens which they distribute for bounty hunters will not be enough to affect their price but this is just the reason that they give for explaination of delaying

In my view early investors with high bonuses and also bounty hunters dump their coins after listing on exchanges. But it depends on the bounty pool and how high the bonuses was for the investors.

Not all ICOs that launched bounty campaigns are dumped as they went to the exchange. Some altcoins are going up after ICO despite the selling of bounty tokens. So noone can stop the good altcoin.

I think the decline in the price of ICO projects is very much related to the project side. After the end of crowdfunding, there is no up-to-date progress, causing investors to lose confidence and sell off tokens, causing prices to fall.

Developers and many believe its bounty hunters that dump coins early but I will say investors also dump coins early in the form of day trading, by that they get back their capital and some profit and don't care if the price increases or remains stagnant. Now, most times the blame is on bounty hunters, no doubt bounty hunters dump because they didn't invest in the project with money but just time invested.... Regardless of that, there are still many bounty hunters that hold and don't dump until price is worth it.

Dumping of Coins is dependent on individuals and their priority and also on the worth of the coin. But mostly I can say that bounty hunters dump more

These days it is not easy to determine who dump most between bounty hunters and investors, because so many investors dump their bonuses making the market o drop.

It is pretty easy actually if you look at our current sentiment right now. You should have known that we are in extreme bear market, literally only a few investors took a part in the sales. Most of them right now is waiting for a moment for the trend to change, what is the point seeling their bonuses if the price is below for more than 90% from its ICO price?
while bounty hunter does not need to spend any money to get the token.

There is a time that investors are also dumpers. But bounty hunters they doing that everytime. But for me the real dumpers are those people who greed and have no patience. They always think that they loss huge money if they don't sell early. So basically the greedy people for me who drop or dump coins earlier.

ICO investors are the last sellers who want to dump the price of their ICO investment. Bounty hunters are the first sellers who do not care about the price because they earned tokens for "free".

I think only the bounty hunters start dump their coins as soon as possible to cash out money. The ICO investors always hold their coins bought on ICO period and most of them will sell the coins only when they make profit.

I have still not sold my bounty rewards from Everex and few others , I have made good profit if I had sold on boom but I  didn't as I believe in long-term , ya i do feel sad that due to low price my work during bounty get devalued but I am not here to quick bucks or not do bounty to just get some coins , I believe if I am helping some good project in long term I will be  in more good position. Instead what I do ICO investors should do because bounties are small but ICO investors invest huge money ,it's sad that they dump just for quick profit but we can't do anything ,very less smart money in crypto market ,90% are here for greed and profit rather than innovation and future ,we can't do anything

I do not think that only Bounty hunters are to blame for the collapse of the coins, since they receive coins much later than investors. During this time, most coins are already trading below ICO prices. The first to bring down the price of investors, and Bounty hunters in the end completely finish off this altcoin.

It happens on most cases but if the bounty distribution is delay based on what OP said and you see a price dumping on the coin then it means that some of the ICO investors want a quick profit or maybe the dumping came from what they called "tokenswap" these are the holders who have a big amount of tokens that get via partnership of the project.

Everyone that sees the opportunity to dump dumps it first. If the investors grts their tokens first which is the normal thing they sell. There ain't nothing like dumping you sell to get your investment back ot cut loss.

I think both of them, the thing is if a project is listed on exchange and it exceed the ico price that's when the investors start dumping theirs and it results to the worst of the dump because they have enough to dump, and if it is the other way around that's when you find the bounty hunters doing their thing as far it pays for their efforts.

As it seems to me, neither bounty hunters nor investors benefit from the coins they received that dropped in value, so I think these people can be excluded!

Especially for the early investors just like those have participated in the pre-sale that acquired a huge bonus and then they cna dump it even the price of coin or token was getting the ico price.
That should be considered as the first party which started to dump their money.

Investors have larger percentage of the token issued during an ico, investors dump token more then bounty hunters, likewise some greedy team as well dump token value sometimes especially teams with no intension of developing the project for a long time.