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Is it normal that projects will not pay bounty rewards because their sales doesnt reached the target?

Is the bounty manager will be liable to here even its not in their control that ICO failed?

I want to joined Soc Med campaign but I read somewhere that some projects really dont pay at end because of ICO failure.

it's normal if projects discontinue and refunds to investor, then projects will not pay bounty rewards because it's just a useless tokens, even if project reached their softcap or hardcap target, still have chance don't pay for bounty participants, try to use the forum search functions, a lot of similar scam cases, example: envion and tokenpay

they will be considered as scam if the projects really went to failure?

even the tokens will be distributed it will be a useless right.

Looks like joining bounties is a risky one.

I think it is natural, if the project really does not achieve success. And that is part of the risk that is in the bounty. But don't think that failure will be continuous, rest assured and all that will definitely have results. Of course the project manager certainly hopes that all will succeed according to plan.
Keep the spirit!!!

Most of the coins/token are scam, even if they pay you , their token will be worthless. It is very important to read Whitepaper and some due diligence before you do some bounty.Below article will give you some insight in spotting them.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5004397.0
 

is a normal thing, if a project does not reach softcap then they will return all investor funds collected. so we will not be paid.
to my knowledge it is not the responsibility of a BM they are only responsible for the management and calculation of the bounty, the rest is the responsibility of the team and DEV
not just social media campaigns. all campaigns will not be paid if ICO fails and does not reach softcap

they will not be considered fraudulent, because the achievement of the ICO does not mean they will become fraudulent, because perhaps their human resources that do not look good enough by investors lack investor interest in investing.

all tokens will not be shared if the ICO does not reach the soft cap.

all there must be risks, success in participating in prizes does not mean even if you get rewards, because with each gift we follow and there is a failure to make knowledge into the future, because with failure there must be a moment of success, and remain optimistic.

When ico have failed because their coin is not sale to investors, its normal we are bounty campaign participants do not get reward and pay by bounty team. How can they pay bounty participant and their coin is not sell to investor.

In 2018 this is a normal situation. Many projects do not collect soft cap, so projects are closed and all work done in the bounty campaign is reset and you do not get paid.
The manager is not responsible for collecting the project funds. He has a completely different task.

There are many such cases. There are some ICO projects that have fled when they do not reach the softcap. That is why we need to have the skills to analyze ICO projects, a bad project that will bring a lot of risk to the participants. But there are some projects that will extent the sale time to achieve the goal.

Yes , is possible not to pay bounty Hunter if the ico failed, once the softcap is not reached the project has failed and have no more way to go than to return the Investors funds and once that is done the bounty Hunter has nothing to get and the project dies,

As long as the project is no more even if the hunters get paid with the token , where would it be traded and who is going to carry on the management when there is no funds to carry on so once fail then no reward , which is why some don't get paid for bounty or airdrop but some don't know .

Yes, that's normal, projects are unpredictable, but sometimes projects that we consider bad, have good developments in the market, such as ODEM.
and sometimes projects that we consider good, have bad development, like XRT. even some projects do not pay for our work.

The manager is not responsible for the scam project, but the team, developer and advisor are responsible.

Yeah, sad but true. Most of the projects which didnt reach their soft cap even dont pay back the collected funds because they "invested it in marketing" ...

Yes, it is normal. If the ICO team has not collected even Softcap, it returns the collected funds to investors and ceases to operate. Then the team and the bounty manager do not earn anything. Of course, nothing in this case is not received by bounty hunters, because the new tokens, in that case, will not cost anything. The manager of the generosity campaign ICO can not bear responsibility for this, since there is absolutely no fault in it. Especially now, when the crypto-currency market is in stagnation.

Yes it's normal, if softcap not reached they don't have money for paying bounty hunter their project is more important than bounty participants


No, bounty manager just managing thousand participants who join bounty program, but bounty manager should inform all bounty participants about ICO progress wheter not reach softcap or scam


not some project but all project, if softcap not reached they have no enough money for paying bounty participants

I think our struggle is that this projects that are failing becomes normal already and such normality is also painful to us as bounty hunters. I see things a happening before the end of ICO I even feel the coldness of the team already. I think there’s too many projects already, seems very good at the beginning but later on fail and become scam. Sometines i also ask, why such a good project finish good but can’t pay on there promised date and would say they’ll extend for six months when you’ve been with them for four months already. What a painful normality happening in our midst.

There are several factors that you must understand:
The ICO project will be paid if Hardcap reaches completion.
And you also have to check if the ICO is registered on the market?

You also need to communicate with managers and some of their project teams, because this will reduce the risk of fraud.
The manager will not pay if he has not reached Hardcap

Naturally, if the project is not able to reach the lowest target.
For the case of the failed ICO, it is not the responsibility of the gift manager, because I think the prize manager is like a gifted hunter.
Try to find and research projects with potential and clear objectives.

It is very rare to meet projects that pay a reward for the bounty program, even if they do not collect a soft cap. Some even continue to develop the project, perhaps this creates difficulties for them, but they cope with it. But as a rule, if the project has not collected money, bounty participants will not get anything.

They can give you the bounty tokens but it will only depend to what you do to the tokens it will have no value, would you like that?   ;D

It should be normal not to distribute the tokens after all the project will be discontinued when the funds are not enough to compensate them for the time and development purposes. They will have a hard time and the team may resort to dumping their on token and turned scam.

It is normal for a project to payout the bounty as a proportion of what is sold during the ICO rather than initial estimates if the Hardcap figure is reached. You need to look at the allocation figure of the bounty it is normally up to 2% or the total project. So if the sale disappoints and they only raise 20% of what they hope then you should expect the bounty to be 2% of the 20% figure of tokens sold.

The bounties were good back in 2017, especially at the beginning of the year or the first half. Back then most ICOs were huge successes and the tokens afterwards were worth alot. You could of sold that token for ETH, held the ETH till $1400 a few months later and made excellent profit for doing very little work.

However most instantely sold and cashed out for fiat. These days there is very little money to be made with bounties and you need to understand you might just be wasting your time.

If you don't want to waste your time. Wait until the bear market ends and alts aren't at 90% losses and start to recover.

that's right, at least they won't pay if the project doesn't reach softcap, that's what I know

Bounty managers have the responsibility of every project that is managed, must be involved in providing the latest information and provide information as soon as possible if a scam is indicated, if not the manager is considered to spread fraud

the third answer, return to the answer to the first question.

1. Yes, this happens and it needs to be accepted. There are a lot of such projects now, unfortunately.
2. If the manager is from the very same campaign, then it seems to me that he is responsible. But if a manager is hired specifically to lead a bounty campaign, he is not responsible.
3. You must understand that crypto is a risk. Therefore, we do not know what may happen tomorrow and therefore you may not be paid.

Yes, indeed. Because of they are not reaching their softcap or their low target, the bounty and the project would never be realized neither publishe.d

This is basic rules of all bounty campaigns... If project do not reach softcap then they refund investors and there will be no payment to bounty people.

Some of the project normally do not pay you because they did not reach the amount that they have to reached. If you want to join some campaign you should have some criteria so that you will not join a scam campaign there are lots of scam campaign and there are lots of ways on how you an avoid that scam campaign.

it's normal if a bounty does not reach the softcap and does not pay for the bounty hunter ... here the bounty manager will also not be able to do anything because the bounty manager is not paid by the project team

If ICO was not successful there is no matter will bounty be distributed to participants or will not. If you receive you bounty coins from scam or unsuccessful project you will not be able to sell this coins because no one could buy it. So you should participate only in good projects.

I think it is because they don't have enough funds to be rewarded to the bounty participants based on the allocated amount but some bounties still paying yet reduced the bounty pool.
Bounty manager will not be responsible for the success pf the bounty depends on the ICO.

Of course it's normal,if you get a token of a project that fails to run the ICO, what's the use of the token? the token will have no value.

Absolutely normal situation in this year,ICO not complete,project cant reach they hardcap and cant continue without money and if ico ltgit they back money to investors if not you lose all.Many ICO relaunch or temportary stopped they token sale to waiting bull run in market.

I think that the bounty manager should not be responsible for whether he collected enough money or not. This is not his task. His task is to control the work of bounty hunters.

Bounty Manger are just helping the project. Due to the volatility of bitcoin and Ethereum. Most projects decided to stop rather to continue without any prior notice. But i guess if bitcoin will rise and reach ATH again, most of the ICO will reach hardcap.

Yes, it is normal that bounty hunters did not pay their reward from their hard work because the project did not reach the target. I experience this situation, I joined a signature campaign, but they did not pay me because of the projects are not successful. They give back the money from their investors.

A great question about the bounty. Usually, ICO projects will pay at the end of the Token sale, but many of the current ICO projects fail to raise capital from investors resulting in the delay in payment. Therefore, it is essential to choose an ICO project to participate.

and unfortunately such projects are overwhelming. I believe that you need to cover as many projects as possible so that you can count on good profits because only 30 percent of them you will pay believe me

And what will they pay if they don’t raise money for ICO, so it seems to me that this is quite true when the project failed to raise the required amount and returned the funds to investors!

The space is replete with such scam projects. That they even end up paying you doesn't imply the tokens earned wont be worthless sometimes. Same with working and not getting paid at all, Impressio was one of such scam projects

It depends on the rules and term of condition on the project.
But i thing if the project fail, they wouldn't pay because they just waste money for transaction fee to the bounty hunters

I think that the risk for the bounty hunters if there is a project that is followed fails, but not all projects will fail, excited, do not despair if one of the projects we follow fails, keep trying,

They will not pay because they will not gained anything, the developers of those project who didn't paid their bounty participants are mostly scammers who doesn't wants to share their collected money, from what we are seeing right now there's a lots of existing project while there's no or just few risky participants that will joined and invest, be careful with whatever bounty that you will be joining make sure to review the team behind and what are the achievements that they already have and how useful the project o attract investors.

It happened to me that many of the ICO did not pay me in the end or even had my payment avoided for a long time. This is absolutely wrong, if the ICO does not reach its desired goal, then it is the private problem of the ICO. There is no blame on the campaigner, the campaigner should get his rights, the share price

If the project fails, it is certain the team will quit and run away. This is why they just end up wasting bounty hunters time. It may not be the fault of the bounty manager as he may not be part of the project team but only just paid to manage the bounty.

hi,
very nice

Don't choose a bounty, you won't get anything. I found a new way to get valuable tokens.
if you are looking for a good ICO, you will hardly find it right now.
the formula is to just do all bounties, at least 100 bounties. 50% of your tokens will become money and you will no longer analyze a bounty.

Yes, it's possible that bounties won't pay when they don't reach the target soft cap. No, bounty mangers shouldn't be blamed if the bounty doesn't pay because od the said reason imo.

yes its normal, since the project is fail to reach cap target mean the project will not continue, so if they still pay your reward the reward it self will be worthless

It is not new that if the ICO didn't reach the soft cap values then the project will be dropped and it means there won't be any token sales and all the people who invested will be refunded and the promotions are just waste for that project so you wo't get anything.Mangaer is also like us and he is not holding the tokens so if you joined in the low value project then don't blame the bounty managers.

If the project fails to call for funds and returns money to the investor, he will be fine, but if there are scams, they will be red trusted.

       It is normal for the bounties that won't received payment if the ICO projects failed like for example  if not able to reach their hard cap , then we will call them a scammed project . so we must to understand the team of the project .

Yes, this is normal, if the project has not collected a soft cap and the team has returned all the money to investors, then what will it pay bounty to?
In the above-mentioned case, the manager does not bear any responsibility.
Join the campaign, or not - it's just your decision and listen to advice is not necessary.

If this is the case, then no manager will remain with the neutral trust. ;) This is a venture investment! There, a maximum of 10% pays off. Many do not know how to advertise themselves. The manager is not to blame for this.

It is normal if projects will not pay rewards because their projects are not successful and return all their money to investors. And that is part of the risk that is in the bounty. Don't be pessimistic if you haven't got paid from a bounty campaign! rest assured and all that will definitely have results. Of course the project manager certainly hopes that all will succeed according to plan.

In my purse, there are such useless coins.  The project has not implemented its plans and most importantly, that they return the investments of investors.  I do not despair and continue to work on.

These are all true. Many projects don't distribute bounties because they can't get good investment. The projects distribute high bounties if they receive a good investment.

I don't think they have the authorization to pay for each participant when the project he is pursuing does not reach the specified target. Because they are also the same as bounty hunters, if the project reaches the target and has a value then they will get paid but vice versa if the project does not reach the target it will not get paid also. This is the concern of bounty hunters or bounty managers they must find out the project and even have to be able to predict the feasibility of the project.

The problem is also in the part of the bounty participant because they tried joining to a project that isn't worth developing. If a project is overly hype with the word AI I think its likely not going to succeed in getting softcap funds. If the project is something not worth like a crypto freelance site, now this is just an example. freelance market project aren't so much of a product that is being developed well in cryptosphere. There are several projects like this already and its been more than a year yet the project hasn't even launched any beta. If the project ain't investors would be interested, don't join to such campaign because you are likely not going to get paid.

1. Very normal and it's a risk as a bounter.
2. The manager is only as a bounty manager not as a person in charge. Success or failure of ico depends on the strategy of the project team itself.
3. Why do you think about payment before work? If you always think like that, I think you just waste your time.
 

The fact that you did not get paid after an ICO failed to reach soft cap or hard cap does not make them a scam. I guess that is one thing a lot of bounty hunters do not understand. When you are going this path, you are either sharing in the success or the failure of the ICO and in a case where the ICO ends up unsuccessful and the team had to return back the money of investors, obviously shows there is nothing for you and then all you have to do is to live with it and move on to other projects.

People tend not to understand the risk of what they are getting involved in, and this is why a lot of people do not take their time to study the project they want to be a part of and just choose any project they want. Choose projects with good team and product backed by a very unique idea and you won't have any problem with it being successful as investors will surely want to be a part of it.

Yes, there is such a time when the project does not pay bounty members, simply because Hard Cap has not been reached. Honestly, no one, nothing untoward. The project is for investors only.

Yes, it has been like that for a long time. If an ICO fail to reach its soft cap then all the bounty hunters that promoted the project will also not get any reward.

It's normal that if you don't reach the target, IcO will not pay, because if you don't reach the target, the ICO team will return the investors' funds and that can be the best solution rather than having to pay a small amount and not have a price.

Unfortunately, non-payment of tokens with the participation of generosity ICO in companies now is not so rare. In practice, if the ICO team does not collect the minimum amount, the collected funds are returned to investors and participants in the ICO generosity campaign are not paid for their work. The manager of the bounty is not responsible for this, in most cases he is also an employee and is responsible for filling out the table and for communicating with the ICO team.

That is the reality of bounty campaign having unable to reach the ICO price sale or failure to reach the target of softcap making to to refund the investors and of course their is no liability of bounty manager to adhere their side why the campaign is failure because they give us there best to make the project be funded, with all the marketing strategy applied it result to be nothing.

you work for a bounty projects is also as dangerous as trading or investing in ICOs. Before working, you must research the projects as much as investing. Lets read the bounty rule carefully and dont forget to choose a right bounty manager

If you count how many companies have not paid me a reward. There are times when a company collected a hard cap, but the manager did not perform his work responsibly. Or projects canceled their awards. And only on the fingers pozhdno count how much I paid cents for the company.

Unfortunately, bounty campaign participants are at risk. In my practice there was one such project. Of course, it's a pity for my wasted time. But in this case, the bounty manager is not to blame. He is a hired worker and doesn't know how the sales will end up in the end. Therefore, he is not responsible.

I find myself in a mess when I see that after a successful campaign, bounty managers and team members of the project try to redirect some tokens to unknown people. After taking a critical look at tokens being distributed, you find out that some tokens may be left and you might not be able to find out where actually it has been allocated.

For example, I didn't get reward, whn ICO filed. The tokens in this case are useless, I think. And the team answered, that project failed and there is no need to distribute th tokens.

Of course, no one will pay you anything if the project does not collect a soft cap, it's a well-known fact, and the bounty manager does not bear any responsibility for this.

There is more reason for one to research on a project before participating in the bounty. If you find yourself promoting a scam project, then you might not get any payment. Just ensure you do your research before joining the bounty.

Unfortunately, you can not rely on the bounty manager.

In order not to repeat, here is the link to post in which I told how I choose ICO (the choice of bounty and the choice of ICO is almost the same)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4584807.msg46406161#msg46406161

Why would the bounty manager be responsible for anything if the ICO fails? Maybe you should read and actually understand what a bounty is before participating in one because it seems you are woefully underprepared.

A bounty program is a marketing effort aimed to help spread the word about an ICO or project, people participate in this marketing effort in return for tokens which will have value IF the ICO is successful. If the ICO is not successful then most projects don't even bother distributing the tokens because they are worthless as the project cannot be developed = waste of ETH.

Well in most cases when ICOs do not reach their target they often refund their investors' contributions. It is only on rare cases that they might still go ahead with the project based on what they are able to raise. So in initial scenario cited there no way bounty participants can be rewarded when funds have been returned. Also, I don't think the bounty manager will be liable for ico failure except if he or she is also a part of the team.

Hi, everybody. Tell me what are the main criteria for choosing a successful generosity?

It's not reasonable if you before joining the bounty campaign you did research, meaning you aren't rash when choosing an ICO project. At least by doing research you will estimate the amount of hardcap and softcap that must be achieved by the project and you can predict whether or not the project should reach its target. And also by doing research you will estimate the amount of hardcap and softcap that must be achieved by the project and you can predict whether or not the project can reach its target.

Yes if they didn't reach like soft cap or any sale meaning the project was failed so that you must do a research first before joining in a campaign so that your effort would not be wasted and it will be paid off, failure of project is because of the price of every coin was not stable so the only ICO that would be reach has strong community and great project.

No, even the project are not reach the hardcap they will send the rewards of  bounty participants as long as they reach the softcap. Most of the ICO project are not reach the hardcap because the situation of the market now and a lot of projects nowadays is a scam, that's why some of ICO investors are temporarily stay away.

Yes you have a point and some of the ICO project if they not reach the hardcap they will extend the ICO until to reach. And some of ICO that not reach the softcap are getting scam that not refund the amount of their collect from investors but some of them they will refund.

1. yes its normal
2. no , ICO manager only manage their bounty campaign
3. don't be too hopeful on the bounty
there is soo man bounty here but it's only 10% bounty become succes project, and 90% bounty are shitcoin.

Perhaps everyone else has said this before, When ever a project failed there won't be any payment for everyone, and if it a real/honest project then they would be refunding every money that they had received from the investors. so no one will get anything.

Hello friends, you can participate in the RIPAEX project's bounty activities, and I am currently participating in the second signature event of the RIPAEX project. I think its bounty is true and reliable, because according to the friends who participated in the first prize-winning activities, he has already received the XPX token.

1. normally, they will create the second phase to continues their ICO.
2. yes, if they are the responsible person, they only need to refund for investors. If they are scammers, they will run away.
3. How can they run their project if their ICO is unsuccessful?

Its normal if a failed project don't pay hunter, the purpose of bounty is to make the project known to every potential investors and make the project successful so if the project is not successful that mean they are not doing a good job and the can't get paid for that

Now is a very difficult period for the entire cryptocurrency market and for the activities of the ICO as well. Of course, it’s not normal that ICO teams ultimately don’t pay earned tokens to bounty hunters due to the fact that the ICO project didn’t raise sufficient funds, but now it’s a common phenomenon and there’s nothing special about it. If the ICO team does not collect Softcap, they return the collected funds to investors and also do not earn anything with the bounty manager. In this case, nothing can be done, bounty hunters also remain without remuneration, because new tokens, even if they were released, are worth nothing.

Yes it normal especially nowadays. That why we should be careful in choosing the ICO where we would like to join so that we can assure that payments will be made once the ICO was already finished. But that's no that easy. So I suggest that it's just a matter of acceptance. If you did not receive payments then charge it as an experience.

More and more projects seem to just extend their ICO and delay the bounty because they are having a hard time raising money.

Typically the current ICO project is like that, delaying the distribution process for investors or bounty participants.

If a crowdsale doesn't succeed in reaching its softcap requirement or is canceled for legal reasons, poor performance or something similar then you won't receive any rewards and the campaign manager won't be liable

You can wait and evaluate the progress of an ICO and join in only if it performs well that way you won't be wasting your time on unsuccessful campaigns

it is something that isn't new to bounty hunters...Besides, you can't hold a bounty manager responsible for such instances. This is mostly the discretion of the team behind the project and what would be essence of holding tokens without any real value?

If you're an aspiring bounty hunter, be prepared for the fact that this industry is very random. The project can even be very successful at the ICO, but you will not receive your payment. It is very annoying, but it is necessary to prepare for it. Well, if the project has not collected softcap - it's normal that you will not be paid. Why do you need tokens that cost nothing?

It is normal thing, if the bounty doesn't reach soft cap, then all the hard work is not paid out! Manager is not liable as his hard work is also not paid out. If you found something you trust, then go ahead and join them, promote and invest your time in to the project!

It is normal specially the terms of the bounty will pay you in terms of percentage of the today fund. That is the risk of joining the bounty campaign although they can extend it for them to lure some investors they will not do that because for me those fund that they earn they will keep it, it is better if they will distribute it again but most of the time it will not happen.

Yeah it is normal actually because of market conditions most of the coins and icos are going to be fail and at the end they are not giving reward to their bounty hunters it is very sad actually because we are giving our time energy to them but it is very normal now a days most of the manger are doing this.

If they have said and created a rule that payment shall rely on the total sales then expect it.
But if they never stated that if the sales is low and they won't pay then you shall be eligible for payment.

A bounty manager should secure all the funds before running the campaign.

if the project fails then the manager will not be responsible for the project, competing against the responsible person is the founder of the project, all the funds from the investors will be returned and if we have joined the prizes we usually are not paid because I often like that.

As far as I know, if the ICO doesn't reach the soft-cap, then the project is cancelled and the investments are reimbursed to the ICO participants. That also means that bounty hunters will not receive any rewards, as the tokens are worthless.

actually, bounty manager can not make sure ICO will be successful or not, you have to evaluate by yourself, join with their own risk, they are just hired to manage bounty campaign, count your reward, but trust point of bounty manager also reflect safety of bounty campaign, you should choose bounty that are managed by trust manager and big bounty team

If a project don't reach their cap, there's no need for their tokens except they want to continue with the project and if they don't, then there's no pay for hunters. You don't hold anyone responsible for this.

But most bounty manager have a high experience on finding a good ICO, because like you and me, the bounty hunter is also a worker on that specific newly created crypto project. So it means, he will find a good one to put a lot of effort and dedication of course. When he deal with it, he is also responsible to choose a good participant.. so it obviously he did a part on how the ICO goes if successful or not. So I think, he had a part on it! What do you think?

it is usually indicated in the terms and conditions if the developers will pay bounties if the ico failed.  if the ico failed, that means people are not that interested and your bounty reward will not be that valuable either.

if the ico failed, bounty managers have a part on that, but the success of ico will not depend on its manager entirely. the nature of the project will have great impact also. failed bounty managers will usually have tarnished reputation and they will have less chance to manage future new bounties.

For me, the reason is the uniqueness and product or the service it self. Well, there are a lot of similar project now a days... but still they continue to develop a new one but almost the same on those early project. It will be sounds like redundant and the failure will continue again and again.

Second thing is the human resources and lack of marketing strategy.

It is sad to say, but yes, we - bounty hunters are getting scammed many times here and not getting paid by many reasons, and not only by unsuccessful bounties. You have to analyze the program and the team very carefully before joining.

In this trouble shooted market,failure from ico projects are normal and only few succeeded since investors are so afraid from where to invest

About the bounty manager,supposedly its on their hands because they must make a research first before accepting such project but its mot happening instead they are just getting away and maybe paid after scamming the participants

Indeed the Treaty as such. If the project fails or not reached softcap, then will not get paid. Although some projects there is a fixed pay. This bounty is indeed usually the Manager will not be responsible for the project who scam or the like. and if you intend to follow a bounty sosmed, then why not. just try it first.

If an ICO conducts a bounty and they don't reach at least soft cap, they won't probably distribute bounty rewards because the purpose of the bounty itself is to increase awareness for the ICO and make it successful. In this case, bounty manager is not to be blamed as he was only hired to do his work.

This year many ICO's have never been successful,they are affected with the falling price of the market,that's why many Projects decide to stop their tokensale and it will be resume if the market will recover,this is a big impact to all the participants they cannot receive payments with their hardwork and also Bounty Manager's is not responsible if the ICO failed or stop their tokensale that is CEO decision and we need to accept it.

Actually, most of the cases why the team does not give or paid bounty hunters is because they don't manage to achieved their soft cap in which will be the basis for the development of the project. They just return the funds that they have collected from the investors.

It's okay The project did not fulfill the task and did not collect the minimum amount necessary to start the work. Therefore, they do not pay awards. They should also return the money to investors.


Bounty manager is not to blame for the fact that the project was unsuccessful.
However, if the same manager has a lot of projects and all of them turn out to be unsuccessful - DT can paint a trust for him.

That is true if the project failed. Some of the bounty managers will not pay bounty hunters because the project are not successful and they did not meet the soft cap as well as hard cap of the token sale. Some bounty managers will pay but the token will not be available in the market.

Yes, they usually do things like that.
if the softcap minimum target is not achieved, then usually a project will be frozen or suspended and can even be failed and never run again.
looking for a bounty project that already has a research base on a good project.

That is the unfortunate moment for all the bounty hunters, but remember even the campaign manager doesn't get any payment or I mean he got a useless "shitcoins" to all of his effort. Which mean, everyone is at the same situation... but the most damage of all are the admin of that newly project. Because the invest a lot of time, money, effort to build a proposal and promising crypto project. More or less,they work it a years for sure, imagine that. Because mostly of crypto project, return all the funds they got to all the investors who invest on them.

1 Of course it is ok, if project doesn't collect softcap they usually return money to investors and don't develop their project. They can send you tokens but they wouldn't have any value.

2 Bounty manager is a hired person, he makes some job for project like you and if project failed he likely won't get anything like you.

3 90% of projects won't pay you if you don't choose your projects carefully.

This is the main reason why the "shitcoin" born in this crypto market. Shitcoin means useless and nothing but useless. This is the most common way to illustrate this kind of coins... and the sad part, most bounty hunter got it including me.

if the project does not reach the minimum target (softcap) it is normal they will not pay you. I think the bounty manager cannot be held responsible if ico fails because the task is only to manage the bounty campaign.

Yes, that is true, the main purpose of Bounty is to promote the ICO project to the public, namely the most common category is to promote the public on social media, youtube videos and signatures. And when the promoted project succeeds in selling, the paid hunters will be paid. But if sales fail, what will the project negotiator pay to the prize participants? So I think we should be able to think positively and not ask for payment to the Bounty manager if the ICO project fails in the sales period.

Yes it's pbviously notmal situation right now, but there a lot of ICO wich tokens to bounty hunters even if hardcap or softcap wasn't reach. If you want join social biunty's you can join to 10-20 or more bounty's, so even half of it wont pay to you other half will pay for sure.

Softcap is indeed an important part if we are indeed participating in a bounty campaign. because that is the determinant later we will get payment. Projeck will run if the minimum funds are met

Actually being not paid in the bounty is not normal but it happened sometimes if the hard cap is not reached because of lack of fund. It is an unprofessional thing in the side of the ICO Company and bounty campaign participants cannot do something about it but complaint.

The bounty manager will be liable because of this even it is not his/her fault because as a bounty manger he/she is in the front line.

In joining the signature campaigns,you need to double check whether the project is highly potential.

Yeah, that is one part of the risk of being a part of a bounty campaign and that is why sometimes it can be quite rewarding as well. Most of the team understands the risk you are taking in promoting the campaign and the possibility of you knowing that you getting paid are dependent on the success of the ICO, which is why you can simply get something substantial over time, depending on the campaign though.

Most project that would reach their soft cap or hard cap and end up not paying bounty hunters actually show a fraudulent team in that aspect, which is why it is necessary to always look out for the team, the availability of product before even deciding to invest.

but what's the use of coins if the project is dead. what would just be a beauty lay in a wallet for memory? the manager is only responsible for performing bounty and calculating bids for the subsequent transfer of information to the project. he does not deal with distribution and does not affect it either. entering into the bounty one must be ready that your work can be done empty

Normally when ico target are not reach the team return collected fund to investors in such case bounty huntes will no get paid for work done.

Normally, as a bounty hunter, your work is to project the product out there to the world and in the process that the ICO fails, then that shows the failure of the bounty hunters as well and since you are going to be paid in the token or coins as the case may be, you are definitely stuck with the fact that you will just have to accept the fate of not getting paid and moving on.

That is one part of the risk of bounty as you share the risk with the company and as long as you are not an investor which a legit ICO will definitely return investor's funds, and then you have nothing to get as a bounty hunter.

Why should a manager even be responsible for a failed bounty in the first place ?
It is bounty and I do not know what else people would have been expecting. If they do not understand by now that the idea of joining a bounty is to share in both the success and failure of the project, then I wonder what else comes to mind.

The only people who get paid at the end are the investors and it is not like they got paid, but they only get back what they have invested in the first place while thinking the project ICO will become successful, but for a bounty hunter to be expecting something after a failed ICO is absurd.

its the risk that the bounty hunters like us must take. we are really not sure which ot them will reach hard cap or which of will pay us. thats why most of the bounty hunters join alot of campaign to multiply their chances. just do your research and find out which Ico has a feasible projects.

that is exactly what happens and this is the reason why being a part of a bounty should always be more like someone who is trying to invest and making sure they are in a project that have a good chance to success and not just any project.

Anyone who is not comfortable with the idea of not getting paid when the project fails, then they should rather go ahead to look for a project that pays in btc then. As long as you are a bounty hunter, whatever befalls the project hits you as well; it is as simple as that.

Unfrotunately it is not fair, but when the ICO fails to reach its soft cap, bounty hunters will get nothing as well as the bounty manager. And the bounty manager cannot guarantee that the ICO will reach the soft cap.

I don’t know if it’s okay or not, but most projects do just that and of fact. probably they appreciate it as bad our work in terms of public relations and decide to pay nothing

I agree. This is one of the most disgusting and pathetic aspects of this cryptocurrency market. I absolutely despise those development teams who simply run away with the hard earned money of bounty hunters and investors who helped support their project in the short term as well as the long term. Extensions of the ICO by the development teams makes sense based on market conditions as long as they pay the bounty hunters and investors properly at the end of the day. This is why research is crucial while investing into any ICO in this volatile market.

Payments for participating in bounty aren't regulated by any law and depend only on the company honesty, I met companies that didn't pay even after reaching their goals

No, bounty manager is not responsible for token sales. In most cases, he/she even not the team member

As I said above that is truth

It is not the failure of a bounty manager or the bounty hunters, that the ICO fails to reach their targets. Bounty members are playing a big role in the projects promotion, but the core mission has the team and ICOs advisors. If they wail, you cannot do something about it.

if the ICO fails and does not reach softcap then of course no one will pay you anything, I think that the Manager who leads this company is not responsible for its success, he also works and receives a reward for it

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like that happened, when the ico project did not reach the soft cap and the sales period ended then the bounty participants will not get paid, I think the manager of the bounty did not get anything, and is not responsible for payment of rewards to bounty campaign participants if ico fails

Whether the project won't reached the head cap successfully, the team should still pay for reward. Just lime happened before on one bounty where I joined, they give the reward listed on the exchanger but because of unsuccessful ICO the market is affected and the coin lose the value. Even it won't success, the team pay everyone for effort.

Bounty participants will not be paid if the project fails. if the project has reached softcap, then the bounnty participant must be paid, if there is no payment, it can be reported as an indication of a scam.

if the ICO don't reach soft cap then it is considered failure. they would not pay the bounty because the tokens are useless and have no value. bounty manager are only responsible to the bounty campaign so if the ICO failed then maybe the project is not good enough.

That's true, that is why we need to be careful in choosing the bounty to join.
We also have to think like an investor because when doing bounty you spend your precious time and effort, so if you are not compensated
that means you loss.

If in the conditions of the bounty of the campaign written like that, then they can. In any case, the bounty hunters' earnings depend on the money raised by the project. If the project could not collect anything, then he will have nothing to pay.

There are instances that the project will not pay because they didn't succeed. It looks like unfair but actually what they pay if they don't have any amount from their project? Even though it is not right to say sorry because we can't pay and yet they did it as the way of professional person who manage the project and understand the situation.

I think that is totally normal cause the don't have anything to be used to pay everyone who are helping to promote the project. And it's something like an unwritten rules that whenever the project unsuccessful.

It is normal if a project doesn't make payments to bounty hunters because their sales don't reach the softcap target. But as far as I know, there are also some bounty campaigns that keep paying bounty rewards even though their projects don't reach the softcap target.
Bounty Manager has no control over such responsibilities, because they are only tasked with counting stakes, managing everything of bounty campaign and promoting projects. But they have no right and are not responsible for the distribution of rewards.

Don't be afraid to try something, because bounty hunters are also influential as a key to the success of a project.

In this case, I think it's normal if the ICO doesn't reach the target and the bounty manager can notify the bounty participants in the thread bounty. If you want to join a social media campaign, it's better if you open the website. Because on the website there will be an ICO development.

yes it is true that if bounty fails manager do not pay. they do projects if it is successful than they payout as the tokens of that project otherwise they do not pay anything for that project. i think even they do not get anything if the project fails.

in my opinion it's normal, first if the ICO fails, generally all fail, second, the ICO fails or does not reach the target so that the investment from the investor is returned, so the prize is not legally given to the prize hunter. and that is the risk of a bounty hunter in my opinion.

Unfortunately, this sometimes occurs. Especially now, when the cryptocurrency market is experiencing a strong decline in price and a long period of stagnation. If the ICO team was unable to collect even the minimum amount, the bounty manager and participants of the ICO generosity campaign do not receive earnings, since the tokens in this case are not issued, and the released ones are burned. The manager of the bounty campaign in this case can not bear any responsibility, it does not depend on him.

There is no point in paying for bounty after ICO have failed because if they pay it'll be worthless, just going to be lying in your wallet and not useful for anything, some bounty manager endeavor to send payment to avoid complaint and allegations but it is of no use that's why it's not necessary to send payment when ICO fail, example of bounty platforms that send payment after ICO fail is Bountyhive

Yes, you're right. If the softcap hasn't been reached, they have not enough money to continue the project. So they have right not to pay for participants. That's a rule and it's stated on bounty information

It is understandable at all sense, whenever a certain project or an ICO doesnt reach the required capital or soft capitalization, it would not pay eventually, and whats the use if they pay the tokens and then they would stop the project? On the part of the bounty manager, they are not liable to this.

Of course, if the project did not assemble a softcap, then it should not pay to the bounty-hunters because the project is closed and the tokens simply cost nothing. A bounty manager may be responsible in part for example, he can be painted with trust, although the direction of the project does not depend on him. It is necessary to go into those projects that have collected a lot of them.

It should be borne in mind that now most of the bounty companies are scammers, they do not pay their depositors, what can we say about the participants of the bounty. Unfortunately, no one is immune from this. And even a good Manager can have a misfire. So it is necessary to treat this philosophically.

Q : Is it normal that projects will not pay bounty rewards because their sales doesnt reached the target?
A : normal, because if that project pays bounty but their target is not reached (lack of investors) then the project will still not run and the coin we get does not have a price, so it will be the same if we are paid or not.

Q : Is the bounty manager will be liable to here even its not in their control that ICO failed?
A : of course not, because the ICO will be successful or not is not the responsibility of the bounty manager, because the task of the bounty manager is only as an intermediary between the bounty hunter and the project owner, not as a determinant of the project success or not.

Q : I want to joined Soc Med campaign but I read somewhere that some projects really dont pay at end because of ICO failure.
A : You should not read a lot of negative news but you have to be sure of yourself, so if you want to join a social media campaign just do it. you have to work hard and take risks to be successful, because it is impossible for any of the 10 social media campaign that you join no one to pay.

Is it normal? Yes, it happens quite often. Is it proper? No, it is not. Is it allowed? No, it is not, and it should not be. Whatever happens, they should pay for those who exert effort for the promotion of their project. But if there is a condition right from the start that the bounty will not be paid if they cannot reach their target and you agree with it, then there is no problem.

The bounty manager is not liable, but he should. They have disclaimers, but they remain to be responsible for unpaid works.

If the ICO is legit then it will not be the bounty managers fault if the hunter will not be paid because the project did not meet the required finacial support from the investors. Although it is not good that ICO will not pay the hunters but there is nothing we can do as there is no law to obliged them to pay so better lets choose ICO that with feasible products so that they could attract more people to invest.

no more worry in bounty campaign now, we've see most of projects prefer to held IEO in any exchanges.from finished IEO, most of them successfull and bounty reward will receive their reward soon.and we see now majority bounty campaign from IEO projects.

You can tell right away the honest ICOs from dishonest ones.  Usually, the project will put a disclaimer or note with their bouny tasks  that if a certain amount is not reached during the ICO time period then bounties will not be paid out - regardless of the work and tasks completed by bounty hunters.  In a way it seems fair since if the bounty hunters write poor articles or don't generate enough buzz and raise awareness through the campaign tasks then they have failed.  And collectively shouldn't get paid.  For example, Bitbond STO has a soft cap limit of 3 million Euros and if the project can not raise 2.5 million then the bounty hunters will not get paid.  They are honest and upfront with their expectations for their soft cap value and  the value at which they pay bounty hunters for generating good public relations.

right. Even if they pay you token, the value of that token will be zero because no one will develop it and the price of the token will not increase.
that's why we really need to analyze projects before participating in promoting them.
What's worse is that we promote scam projects. we will hurt investors out there who lose money.

There is no guarantee for that, when sales do not reach the target, of course their ICO has failed and completely you will not receive any payment, therefore you are asked to promote the project and if the promotion is successful then the project will also be successful. But on the other hand there are still fears when they run away with a lot of investor money and you are fully exposed to a scam project. So research is very necessary in the beginning if you do not want to end with regret.

Once a project ICO fails don't bother just move on and find another good project, the reason why ICO exist if to raise fund for a new project so that they can start building the project

I think it's normal if the project doesn't reach their soft cap target it means they will not be able to develop the project and it's a useless token even if they pay the bounty hunters. Well there's also some projects who are able to reach their hardcap but still scammed their bounty participants and didn't even bother to pay like tokenpay.

Yes it is true. In many cases, projects you have worked for as bounty hunters will not pay if it fails. Some of honest projects refund their investors while other fake ones even do not bother to refund. In some cases, projects give bounty hunters their reward tokens even they fail to succeed. But what can bounty hunters do with such worthless tokens?

Yes that is correct there's so many projects that fail so hard because of the ICO is not reach softcap due to the lack of investor that's why those bounty participants are affected too its not our fault why we join the bounty there's a lot of disclaimer there that join at your own risk

It is not likely that a project that does not reach soft cap will pay. The best thing that can happen is for all invested money by participants to be refunded. But if all these money has been invested into marketing and some other stuffs, it becomes extremely difficult to get refunded. So what now happens. The crypto space is all all about hope. Hoping that things will turn out as planned and not the other way round. That a project one invests in will actually reach soft cap so one can be paid.

Any project that does not reach soft cap and refunds investors money will not be considered as a scam project. If the project does not reach soft cap and still wants to pay investors, the owner of the project will definitely run into a very great loss. So, let's keep the faith that things will always turn out fine. It's all about having hope.

Sometimes it even happens that the bounty is paid, but unfortunately these tokens do not appear on the exchanges and they are unrealistic to sell; they simply in your wallet and at times you can just look at this tokens and remember participation.

Gone are those days when you can detect good projects just by reading their whitepapers, some projects end up not even following what they introduced in their whitepapers

Of course, that's normal they do not have funds to start with, they rely on the crowdfunding to push through with their project and what's on their platform, but they must refund their investors if they did not push through with their project.

Of course investors risk their money investing in the project. If they don't make a profit, it's bad but not fatal. But investors should have insurance against the total loss of invested money if the project fails. Only in this case the project can be considered honest.

Yes, this is normal, but much worse when the cap is reached and still there are no payments.. unfortunately

I don't want to blame the manager if the ICO project fails. Because the manager only works to make threads and serves every problem experienced by the participants regarding the bounty campaign. Because when the ICO project failed and the money was returned to investors it was very normal. For bounty participants, I think it's normal if it's not paid.

It is usually stated in the rules of Bounty campaign that the project can change the rules at any time, so technically they can do anything they want. If the project did not raise enough funds for the development, there is no sense to distribute the tokens as they will be useless.

You're right, its useless even you received the rewards because it has no value, it will be an additional shitcoins to your wallet.

To prevent this from happening, then choose a project that is likely to succeed. Its hard to determine but you have to do something to not end up in this kind of situation.

In the first place, why would a team release a coin from the failed ICO, that has no value at all, and if that will be traded in a decentralized exchange, it's only to deceive the innocent investors. That's makes the team a scammer as they allowed it to happen when they are in control of it.

Normal rules, when the ICO fail, efforts of bounty hunters will not be compensated, better that way.

As a bounty hunter, you are at the mercy of the bounty manager and the project team, they may come up with whatever reason not to distribute and you won't hack take anyone to court because there was no signed agreement to it. This is why it is good to choose reputable bounty managers and projects, research is very important.

Most of them clearly state that they won't be paying to the bounty participants if they don't reach the hard cap.
There's also no sense of paying as the funds of any investors would be returned and the received token would be worth nothing when the project is cancelled.
So, its better to go for a popular project than hunting for large rewards.

First of all, everything about bounty campaigns are uncertain. For your first question, yes it is normal for the bouny rewards not to be paid when the target is not reached thats why they set a target in the first place and it is stated on their bounty rules. For your second question, I don't think you can blame the bounty manager for the failure of the campaign because like us, he or she is also been hired.

Yes its normal.. each crypto projects/ICO who created bounty for crypto projects/ICO promotion applied that rules on their bounty.. will not paying rewards if ICO didn't reach minimal their soft cap sale and also for investors who invest on that crypto projects/ICO , their funds will returned back to investors.
Also I don't know for bounty manager of that bounty which promoted ICO not success , they got paid or not.
I think its better for search bounty which that crypto projects/ICO already reached soft cap. just my opinion , its for not doing useless promotion next time.

Projects that fail will be able to invest. Back when the price of ico again was the same it improved, but the manager would be difficult to transfer to the crypto currency which only wanted to return the price that it deserved
 

You said right. The bounty manager should get the job done by confirming the payment. And it is necessary to take action to understand the situation of the project. I have seen many good projects and the bounty manager killed Hanter's payment. It is not right. Hunts work hard and therefore they should be paid.

If the project fails, obviously they won't distribute the token. If they do, I'd rather not accept it if I have an option to do so. I don't want to keep another worthless coin in my wallet. But if they reached their soft cap, and they don't distribute their token, then that's an another story.

And we all hold a lot of useless coins. Fundraising does not like not pouring into a further product. I also have useless coins on my wallet. Unfortunately this is so. And the success of the project does not mean payment.

I'll just ask, how many bounty rewards you have currently been holding by now? Even that it is coming from legit bounties who reach their soft cap or even their hard cap, nothing to think that it can be of decent price in the market. Cause for me, if those bounties will give my rewards, I will have to accept it and who knows that it will hit the market. Will it be good for me right?

I have one that I left because I don't see the coin reaching their softcap, and it's a common practice that bounty hunters will not get their token if the funding did not reach the softcap, and bounty manager has no liability investors are looking for a good project even if the marketing is good but lacks support on the project it will still fail.

1. It's normal
2. Most of bounty managers are hired based on contract and we're not involved in internal teams, and the most responsible thing that they possible do is to communicate with the teams project
3. Yeah not all bounties will paid the participants despite their having success on ICO. So pick some social media campaigns up smartly

Yes! Actually, it beyond normal because mostly, we are promoting for free.  What do I say? In this industry, many people are experiencing a deception either from manager or in developers. However, we never react not because we do not have enough knowledge but because they will ignore us specially when it comes in distribution of tokens. Many of them are just saying 'soon' unfortunately, they will become scammed than giving the tokens we should earn in the bounty.

for me, when an ico does not reached their target soft cap. It does not matter if they pay or not because in able for a company to move further, they need to atleast reach the soft cap which they will use on their development.

Once the sales did not meat the SOFT CAP of the team then the payment for bounty will not occur.
Unless the team decide to fund the project by themselves then the bounty will get the payment but not on the full amount.
I experienced this before.

Yes its normal, I promote a bounty called files.fm which is a very good project with working product and the bounty allocation was 500k but after they did ICO they only sold 100k worth of token which I think is a big mistake ,they should have used IEO instead so they told all hunters that they will only be able to pay 50$ for each participant

good projects will still pay even though they fail sales, they still value bounty hunters even though their tokens don't have a price but they are responsible for what they promised in advance. if they don't pay, the bounty manager will also be affected because they manage it. and also seems to have escrow before the bounty campaign starts so there's no need to worry.

For participants of the Bounty company there is no particular choice.  They either get rewarded or not, and in this game they can get almost nothing for their work.  But for everyone, hope dies last, and therefore it is better to believe in the project and in their team, and keep the coins for long-term storage.

Yes thats quite happen on project thats not succes in sales, because they dont have enough money to pay us, so if we pay with token or coin thats gonna be shitcoin/ token and its useless, i collect so many coin like that..

And you want to receive tokens that don´t have any value because project failed to raise money and will not continue with a development?

The only liability that the bounty manager can have is if he promotes scam projects but when it comes to not reaching the soft cap, he is not to blame and has no liability whatsoever, the project is at fault here because they do not have something that can attract investors.

No, usually even though the project did not reach their aim, they should pay the bounty hunters for what they did.

It should be the bounty manager's first duty to not accept any project that is not legit. And the bounty manager should be tagged for doing that.

If the project does not reach their target, then they are not liable to pay their bounty hunters. Some project even they did not reach their target, but still they will continue the project, that makes them liable to the bounty hunters which mostly stated on the bounty campaign agreement.

Bounty now a days are not that much profitable and also some projects doesn't give the rewards as they just want to lure the bounty hunters. . No, he is not liable for that, but if he is smart enough and ask for the payment and escrow it in one wallet then that goods.

It's not uncommon when a project to refuse to pay bounty hunters. The bounty manager is usually innocent in such a situation because he himself can be a victim. Unfortunately, we never know which project will be successful and which will not.

A very simple answer to this is that, it is not normal.
If a project does not pay as promised, then it means it is a total scam project. The only one s I have seen so far,most especially those in that category are the ones that will delay in paying, for some reasons.

When the bounty project not reach softcap and hardcap. I think the reward for bounty is nothing due to they can’t pay for bounty member. You should join the ICO projects when the price of crypto market is high, especially ETH because almost ICO project using ETH technology.

Yes, it is normal.! Because if project not gets enough fund then how can they pay you? It was said before every bounty that if a project reaches the soft cap, you will get paid. Otherwise not!

Soft cap is used for tricking the investors and new traders in my humble opinion. No matter they pay the rewards to the bounty hunters or not, that money should be used for development of the project. Some projects don't respect this rule and they dump their project token on the exchange after listing.

Its not bounty manager faults if the ICO project failed... They were also instructed by the project... So better before doing or joining any bounty projects DYOR first... So your works will not wasted..

for the first time?
maybe for those who first got the failure ico, would be very disappointed. but based on my experience, for a full year in 2018, many ico failed. of the several ico that I followed, there were even 2 ico which stated that the project was dead.

for me it is a little more natural, because ico itself is a gambling-like project, it is still 50-50 between success or failure.

It's because they can easily get away that money without doing what they promise in whitepaper including rewarding bounty hunters. That's why almost all investors and bounty hunters don't want to get involved in ICO anymore as it runs like a ponzi scheme. Smart investors nowadays in crypto would rather invest in IEO as it's more promising and reasonable.

That is exactly not right.
Bounty hunter must have tired doing their jobs with with a monts and waiting a long time to get distribution.
And then it is just leave without get a payment.
That is not fair, no one worker want to work without get a payment.

Even if the team would pay you millions of tokens which have no value, how can you make it useful to your end? The bottom line here is we should promote only legitimate projects and no matter how long it would take to promote the project at the end you will reap something and it's worth the worth and time we have spent.

bounty manager groups, they do not have the task of distributing token. This will be done by the project team, I don't know how but the payout can take place or the delay comes up every year

Of course, if the ICO projects do not collect even the minimum amount, they do not pay us for the ICO bounty campaign, since they pay with tokens, and in this case the tokens are not issued. In the ordinary world, if someone enters into a contract to advertise a project, then he must pay for the services, regardless of whether the project is successful or not. However, the activity of bounty hunters is not regulated by anyone and the ICO teams set the rules for themselves. Here you can get a good profit or get nothing for their work. Nobody forces anyone to participate in the ICO bounty companies. Everyone has the right to choose and risk their time and effort.

They used to pay with their tokens in general. And if they pay despite their ICO failed the token will have no market value. So paying or not paying is a similar situation.  You will end up collecting some shitcoins. But their are very few bounties which pay in terms  BTC or ETH even on a weekly basis.

reading this is very funny.
let alone projects that fail, many successful projects do not pay for the bounty that I experienced.
here the bounty participants were asked to try to participate in the success of their project fundraising. if the project fails a very common thing if they do not pay and I see participants bounty examples of their social media just copy and share and it is not difficult. you should consider bounty a hobby not a job that in the end you are very dependent on these results friend

Soft- and hardcaps do not exist for fun.
The softcap indicates the minimum amount of funds that must be raised to complete the project.
If this is not achieved, the funds HAVE TO be returned.
Then there is of course no point in distributing the Bounty Token.

If the project fails, then as bounty participants we cannot blame them. Usually, at the beginning there is an explanation that the allocation adjusts how much funds are collected.

Let's also share our experience of bounty participation. In case of my choice, I have become a member of a  bounty run by Lukki exchange.
Here it is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156163

Perhaps your question has been answered by many people, but now things like that are still happening. Managers should be partly responsible for accepting jobs without checking their quality before starting

If the ICO fails, of course we as bounty participants feel that they have failed to promote the project. And that means we really can't get payments because they can't develop the project because of failed sales / ICO. What is strange is that if the project succeeds in success and the project does not pay, that is very unnatural. Because we have worked hard but they did not pay. I think in this case the manager must be able to encourage the team to pay bounty participants.

That was and is the practice, and this is one of the risk bounty hunters are shouldering so it is very important for bounty hunters to double check even triple check and get out when he thinks something is not right, it's hard to accept something that you've worked hard for months and you will end up getting nothing.

that's normal, especially if the ICO doesn't reach the target, meaning that the coin / token failed to be marketed, so if you don't get paid then it's normal, and the responsible is not the manager campaign, but the developers.

Such things happens generally with bounty hunters its a common thing for bounty hunters. It is no use to get coins that will never listed when a project fails to reached its target it is understood project failed. We can not blame bounty managers for failed ICOs. You read it right some projects will never pays when their ICOs fails You should always prepare yourself for such things.

isn't that already an agreement from the initial rules of the campaign began. it won't be a problem of course. because it is a risk of a bounty hunter. do not demand more from this work, try to enjoy just the circumstances of all the campaigns that you follow.

That is normal if the project fails and that is the risk that we bounty hunters should know when doing a new bounty. Another time is wasted if this happens.

what you read is very correct and if you are new here, you will face this as well so you should get ready to let go. The bounty manager can't be held responsible if the project didn't reach the required funds to continue the project

No one is immune from failure. Projects can also fail but there are projects that were originally conceived as scam. It is important for us to be able to recognize such projects.

It is true that a project might not pay at the end if they are unable to reach their soft cap. As a result, it might be extremely difficult for them to pay or they dont even pay at all because that's going to be a huge loss to them.

This is not to say you shouldn't campaign for any project of your choice. You just need to be hopeful that things will turn out as expected for the owners of the project so you can get paid

Basically that's the first thing we should do because if the project is scam, we can't expect to get paid and all our efforts are just wasted, not only that, our reputation but be affected as well.

Yes, if the ICO fails, then it's normal that the bounty rewards are not paid. Because ICO's aim is to find the funds which it needs for the development of the project. And when the project fails to find this fund, it cancels any extra payments, such as bounty campaigns. This is quite usual. I think, the bounty manager doesn't have any responsibility about that. Because funding is quite difficult, especially at this time.

Whatever wrong happens to most of these new projects, bounty hunters care usually at the receiving end. If they are not to blame for the wrong done, their tokens are withheld until there is no volume.
Although this does not happen at all times to all bounty campaigns. This is why DYOR is necessary.

Indeed, there are situations when projects do not collect the required amount and because of the lack of opportunity to implement the project, they do not pay money to headhunters. But on the whole, there are a lot of scammers on the cryptocurrency market, you have to be very careful here.

Of course it's normal. The manager will also get nothing. But before the manager is willing to be part of the bounty campaign project, in my opinion there is an agreement. In general, once again I say that is normal.

There are a lot of scammers not only in the cryptocurrency market but it is important to understand that the tricks of the scammers are mainly for those people who are not educated and do not know how to understand projects.

If the project is failed, then there could be no payment will be made, because the whole project itself has failed from its goal, so any payment promises will be void, we all know that, that is why, we are all recommended to take due diligence to study the project that we want to promote, because this involves our time and effort.

projects that don't pay back when they don't get soft-cap prove they are fraudulent. And I feel that sooner or later it will die

This is the risk of becoming a bounty hunter, wasting time on projects and getting nothing.
this is a good reason to immediately stop relying on bounties, at least don't make the bounty the main job.

Of course if the ico has been sold and reach the hardcap it would only mean that its tokensale is successful and that the project could continue with what was stated with their whitepaper so they must pay the bounty hunters because bounty pool are included with how they distribute the token supply. But there are instances that ico failed and bounty hunters would not get paid. It sad but its true.

I think they would not pay whenever they couldn't reached the soft cap of a project, unsuccessful project is when they doesn't meet to reach the project soft cap. As for my first bounty experienced couple of months ago, we were not been paid since the project fails to reach its soft cap.

Your correct also so its your own path to choose bounty campaigns before participating many bounty campaigns because its normal to scam once you choose a trash campaigns more research to do sometimes its free work for all and so many bounties to pick also.

If you're an an always prepared bounty hunter, so you are capable for the fact that this industry is very random. The project can even be very successful at the ICO, but you will not receive your payment. It is very annoying, but it is necessary to prepare for it. Well, if the project has not collected the hardcap or even softcap - it's commonl that you will not be rewarded as well.

it's normal to many projects, it's been happening for long now. Let's see it this way, the projects launched but didn't reach their required soft or hard cap, so they refund investors and the team don't have money to pay to hunters. It's as simple as that.

Bounty hunters should always be ready to be left without payment and there were many such cases in my practice. There is nothing to be done about it and it is useless to complain.

Is it normal that projects will not pay bounty rewards because their sales doesnt reached the target?
Yes that's the rule if they did not reach the soft cap and refund their investors there is no funds to pay bounty hunters so my advice pick only the best project that has a good potential in the market

Is the bounty manager will be liable to here even its not in their control that ICO failed?
He has no liability whatsoever, his work includes accepting bounty hunters, updating their reports and submitting to the team for token distribution

I want to joined Soc Med campaign but I read somewhere that some projects really dont pay at end because of ICO failure.
This is the reality that bounty hunters should accept if you think that this project has a potential then go for it.

oh i see .  i have recieve some coins after i joined  a bounty last year but they dont have a value  . now i know that the reason   thanks for the info buddy  .


it depends on the stated terms . some managers will state that they wont be responsible whatever happens to the ico  but some managers didnt bother to give disclaimer notice so they should be responsible for any loss  .

if you feel that they wont pay you youd better follow your conscience so that you wont regret at the end if your decision is not right  .

it happens a lot buddy and you will get use to it. I have seen and been in a situation where some bounties even after they reach soft cap will not pay hunters or will reduce rewards.  It happens many of this project teams are lions in sheep clothing

it is a form of injustice for bounty hunters. the team and manager were free to change the agreement they had made themselves from the start. rules change and many allegations are carried out by the project. some even did not publish the final spreadsheet from the participants. that's very bad.

If ICO project failed to reach softcap , the token will be no value.
So, bounty participants will not be payed. Even they payed the token will be worthless.

indeed what happened like that, not many projects failed with their sales paying their bounty participants. even those who achieve sales sometimes don't pay or pay and there is no price in the market because the developer doesn't register in exchange.

Joining or participating in any bounty campaign these days require a lot of research and necessary measures, you don't just join them. Some will meet up with their target, pay you on time and in the end, the coin won't even have any value.

No, take away the word  "some" all projects do not pay at all when the project is a failure in their ICO campaign, of course, some still send their token to their bounty participants, but those tokens have no value if they cannot continue their roadmap, it is a shitcoin in your wallet.

its depend on what the agreement and rules on their bounty campaign. Its their campaign so its normal if we should follow their rules. And if the ICO not success its normal if they didn't pay us. Even when they pay us , team and the project not work , the reward that you received before will be useless

What is the essence of paying you when the ICO failed. What will you do with the token? It is of no use. Your prayer as bounty hunter is for every project you are involved to succeed.

Right, if a project is failed to raised its soft cap from ICO token sale, it is valueless project. Tokens will not enter into the exchanges and bounty hunters will not get any payment as the project failed. Sometimes some projects don't pay to the hunters after passed ICO by showing lame excuse.

Depending on the rules that was stated before the campaign start. Also, when a project didn't meet up in term of softcap in most cases they return the money invested by investors and if this is the case I don't see any reason why they should pay bounty hunters. Even if they give hunters their token, the token will still be useless since the project has been abandoned. It has happened to me in the London block exchange. The project was later aborted and investors were given back their money. They gave we hunters LBX token that is still useless.

Surely the hunter has experienced it like that sometimes gets paid but there is no price at all just being trash in the wallet, the hunter must be good at choosing projects that are worth following so there is no remorse later.

usually a project whose sales do not reach the target will extend the campaign period to truly meet the desired target. it was common but very complained by the hunters because the longer the prize that will be received.
everyone wants the project manager to be responsible when the ICO fails but it can't be because the project doesn't want to know. so make sure if you follow a project that will be run, make sure the project really has a clear goal and a great team in it that is able to develop the project.

There are many bounty hunter who work frantically with all the bounty they find. But this way of doing things I disagree with the loss of strength, but I am not sure to bring success

In my opinion, it is normal when an ICO project fails or does not reach the target and does not distribute the tokens as you say it is natural because the project failed and the tokens will be worthless later so they do not distribute them. Therefore, before deciding to join a project bounty it is better for us to observe the project and analyze how the project and the team in it will be able to run smoothly and reach its target.

If you are already a long time this market, then you should understand that it is better to spend more time researching a project than to participate in a scam bounty

do you mean bounty hunters who join many campaigns on different projects? yes we can see the history of the posts on their account. indeed I see there are members who participate in bounty social media up to 10 projects. it was not the signature campaign he had participated in.
yes, maybe he has a lot of time for that, but that's not the reason for the success of a bounty hunter.

Question 1, I think it is only natural if the project does not pay the bounty if the softcap is not achieved because they do not have the funds to run roadmap

Question 2, it is not possible for the manager to be responsible if the project is a scam, because the manager is only a worker and manager, have risk if the project is a scam, the manager will get a red trust

Question 3, normal for a bounty hunter not get paid from the bounty and all have experienced it , Being a bounty hunter must remain optimistic and don't give up easily

yes this happens if the company does not collect the required amount they close the project until better times
return the invested money to investors
this is normal for bounty companies

sometimes not because of how long we are in the market, even though they have been here for a long time, not necessarily able to understand crypto as a whole.

i think, even though we have been doing research that takes a long time, we can make mistakes and be in a project scam. so i think that luck also makes us in the right project.

Many ICOs that failed cannot move forward anymore. Most of them will return all the investments. And since they will not anymore mint any coin, the bounty hunters will also receive nothing in return. Projects conduct ICO with softcaps. This is based on the minimum amount of resources the project need in order for them to be able to move forward and develop their product. Failing this is also failing to meet their minimum target.

Also, bounty managers do not have any control of this.

Perhaps you are a newcomer to the bounty campaign, so you ask such questions. When you do a bounty campaign long enough, you will realize that there are many bounty projects that you do, projects never pay the token for you since that projects  scam or mobilize very little compared to the hardcap. My experience is that you learn to choose good quality bounty projects to join.

it is true that an ICO will not pay the bounty when the project fails. even the manager of the project will not be bothered by the failure of the project. but usually on an ICO system most projects fail because there are team members who are less responsible for the entry of investor funds to them. then later they escaped the money that was supposed to be used to support and facilitate the running of the project.

I agree with many comments that the bounty manager is the same employee as we are. He receives a salary and operates only with information received from the development team, so sometimes even they cannot determine the scam. Personally, I think it is worth participating in a larger number of projects, so there are more chances to get your coins that will be traded on exchanges with a good course than to study a huge amount of information, and then also get scam.

Its risky to put youre time on a campaign especially if that is unknown project or lack integrity in launching one. Bounty is created to help ICO or IEO projects gain tractions on doing promotions, well if the ICO failed sorry to say that it is always on the disclaimer on the campaign. Hunters always should accept the consequence of this kind of system.

This is likely the risk associated with bounty hunter, you go into an agreement to start bounty and you receive your reward at the end. If the project turns out a failure then it's a sure thing there won't be payment. This is why it is always good to do some research before starting any bounty project.

Strongly agree, each gift program is of course different rules and we must really understand that, and every one of us who wants to join the prize program must make his research first because every guarantee and agreement given by the gift program does not necessarily run completely, even though they are trying to make the best on their gift program.

That's the sad truth in bounty hunting, when they fail, we fail as well, and the fact that majority of the projects fail, that makes us having a less chance to earn from bounty hunting. This is life in crypto bounty hunting, no assurance, you have to take the risk, if they fail, your effort is worthless to them.

That's the reality in crypto world now that by joining bounty is not worth mostly because many projects now doesn't pay their bounty hunter at the end of the campaign. And that is the sad truth even you study their project very well,still you not hold the future of it.
I think bounty manager is not liable of it because if the project failed the founder will not give to the bounty the allocation budget for the hunters. It means it is scam and the bounty manager also scammed. Well,that's what i think.

before engaging in a bounty it is necessary to see the project, if this is not the first day to know about fees, if a week is nothing collected nothing and will not collect, go past

They will not pay Bounty hunters if the project they run does not hit the target. And that has happened that no one is responsible for the action. Bounty managers, in this case, are certainly not to blame for they just run the job. We must be careful and continuously check.

Projects like Envion, Tpay didn't pay hunters even after reaching their hardcap. Maybe the forum can come up with escrow that will be holding bounty funds to ensure hunters gets paid at the end of the ICOs.

Escrow's are a last resort when it comes down to a situation like that. The CEO should manage a bounty campaign, if he doesn't pay up then his project is finished.

Many bounty hunters enter the project when they see that it has collected or is close to softcap. This may be a weak guarantee that they can get at least something.

Usually the bonus manager is also hired as bounty hunter, if the project fails, they may not receive anything. If you want to be sure of getting paid, bounty is not suitable for you.

I rarely take part in these projects. When deciding to participate in Bounty programs, each user must be aware of the degree of risk. The fact is that at the moment there are no clear rules for regulating the distribution of coins and as a result, the team receives the freedom of action. The result is the abolition of any guarantees: the user can fulfill all the conditions set and ultimately do not receive any reward simply because the manager wanted so.

Don't you think it's logical not pay you a worthless token, in a situation whereby the fund raising software isn't reached i don't see any reason why the project should continue and distribute useless tokens.

Every job has its own risk likewise bounty campaigns too failure of an ICO if both Soft Cap or Hard Cap is not reached some ICOs will make an announcement through the bounty manager declaring non payment of rewards this will definitely affects all the participants  thus  these are some the risk attached to bounty hunting, imagine working for several months promoting an ICO and at the end no payment was made this amount to wasted time and efforts and very discouraging however a through research is a way out of avoiding non paying bounties.

It is normal as the project already failed and the development will be on hold. It doesn't make sense to pay bounty hunters for useless tokens. I have participated in 100+ bounties and 80% of the tokens are useless and some projects didn't pay us. I would rather not get paid instead of holding a shitcoin.

If the project has not reached a goal, but continues to work and not to pay tokens, then it is not normal, they are just trying to save money on bounty hunters who spent their time and energy on their project ...

Bounty manager is not criminal here,the project's team is the real culprit here.
I did lots of campaign at the beginning but didn't receive many payment.
Then i stopped doing campaign.
Also there's lot of worthless payment in my wallet because of ico fail

Since the beginning of the bear market last year, most projects has found it really difficult to reach their target thereby leading to their failures. Most of them has resulted into refunding or extending the duration of the project to reach their target. When this happens, bounty hunters are usually at the receiving end because as investor can get back of their money, bounty hunters cannot get back the effort and time put into promoting the project. Social media campaigns are not as attractive as signature campaign in terms of reward allocation and number of participants involved.

I guess the OP already got the answers that he needs. Bottomline is, choose reputable bounty manager and you are good to go. You can count those managers no matter what. One that I know of, he's paying his bounty participants on his own pocket if something goes wrong with the campaign. So sometimes it is not all about how much you will get but rather the manager who is handling the campaign.

It is very normal if a project does not pay for the campaign because the target is not reached. The developer team sets sales targets because they will budget sales proceeds for listing on the market and sometimes for listings on large exchangers requires large funds.

Bounty projects are unpredictable in the sense that no one could tell immediately if the project is going to success or not. Some of us are choosy to join some bounty projects due to we do further more research if the project has a good outcome in the future. In the case of bounty manager, it is not he who is liable for a bounty not to be successful, its the team staffs and developers i think the ones who are liable with.

I agree with you... Good project always doing return funds to investors Eventhough the project fail to get funds from the investors.
We must appreciate for this projects.

yeah, and the OP must know, if a project failed with their ICO or didn't reach the soft cap
i think, the bounty hunters will not get any rewards,,
or maybe if some failed project decided to distributed the bounty rewards to participants,
the tokens will be a junk on our wallet because the token do not have any value

When a new project cannot reach the funding target, the project cannot run and is usually canceled. Therefore, it is normal for bounty hunters not to get paid and this happened to me several times. Why get tokens for this, but these tokens are not traded on the market

Yeah it is normal here in bitcointalk if one ICO failed to reach soft cap, if i were you better to check the ICO progress of one bounty campaign to make sure your effort getting paid and not just go to waste, better to make a research when joining bounty campaign.

Well that's the importance of analysis, because bounty hunters don't only work 1 or 2 weeks, but they will work for months. It will be a waste of time if they cannot analyze the project before they follow.

I personally have a bounty project that only runs a month or two, so as not to waste time if it's a scam. Or not I will look for bounties that pay with coins that have been listed in exchange.

This way to get tokens is risky. You should (before starting to participate in the bounty campaigns) understand that besides the fact that you are working for "candy wrappers", their value will be known only when you enter the stock exchange. Just do not forget that you can be deceived by both the project itself and the bounty manager. Roughly speaking, you need to be prepared for all possible risks.

Everything we do has a risk.. Bounties are more likely 80% failed/scam and only 20% will pay even if it takes long for them to pay... So better before joining any bounties do your own research about the projects... Always DYOR...

yes all have risks and benefits if an ICO project fails, it is certain that bounty participants will not be paid and when the ICO was successful most of them were always late in their payments, there are even many successful ICO that do not pay bounty participants,

Its very normal if you dont get rewards from the bounty projects you promote if the project failed to met their fund raising target e.g softcap they will have no choice but to return funds to investors and leave bounty hunters with nothing

As far as I know, unsuccessful project means unsuccessful bounty campaign. What would the manager pay you if the project devs does not meet the funds they need to run the project? It's as simple logic in an ICO project.

indeed there are projects that do that. and change their strategy by running their project with funds that have been collected. and the developer will raise funds again if the project already has a product and only needs development funds. but for bounty rewards you may have to wait very long to be money. it's also if the team doesn't run away.

Some bounty projects in this days are not that much valuable and  some projects doesn't give the rewards as they just want to lure the bounty hunters. . These  is not liable for that, but if he is smart enough and ask for the payment and it will be good if the bounty payments is being escrow.

If the project fails. We receive worthless tokens. So we don't need to hope if that project fails. Looking for good bounty and quality projects to participate in, to increase the success rate of bounty as well as that project

Currently, IEOs with pool levels for bounty over $ 500k have found it impossible. It is an excessive amount at the present time with the IEO or the ICO. There is no more time when everyone put money into ICO

It is very normal if the ICO project does not pay participants because the ICO project failed... I think, this is part of the risk of being a prize participant in this work.

Yes it is normal, as their sales doesn't reached their target their project would possibly stopped also as they are doesn't have any funds to gather the expenses for the continuous development. The bounty manager are also not liable on it as he make his part to manage the campaign in order to spread awareness about the project. It is more important for us before joining in the campaign to study first the project so that we are also confident for the success of this project in the near future that would give us a huge project.

Yes, because they don't have the funds to pay for it

No, because Bounty Managers are just like Bounty Hunters, they are also paid to do their job.

Yes. They will pay the bounty hunters if it is quite successful

Yeah it is normal that projects that have not achieved their fundraising target are not paying hunters for their job, which I believe is pretty fair. So I am trying to take part in projects that already have achieved at least a soft cap.

we have to very selective while choosing bounty campaign, moreover if its ICO not started yet.we have two possibilities about  its failed or success.but now we have better condition while projects held IEO.we have certainity that we will paid for our work.

Bounty managers do not have to be blamed when the bounty project does not pay because the sale of their project tokens does not reach the target, and that is normal. This is the risk of a bounty hunter because not every project will succeed, so accurate analysis is needed in selecting better projects and potential for success.

Look at the thread bounty if there is an agreement on the issue of reward not paid if the sale does not reach the target is normal, but if there is no agreement and they do not make a payment it is a scam and I think carefully before following the bounty to avoid this.

It is always important to carefully read the terms and conditions of any bounty campaign before jumping in. Most bounties will state clearly their intentions of payments and often times, will tell you if payments or distribution will be made irrespective of if they reach the ICO or IEO targets or not. If such information is clearly stated, then you should understand what to expect.

You need to consider some things before joining any Bounty. First is your patience to bear whatever outcome the bounty brings. Another and important one is to consider if the rules for the bounty is favorable for you. With this and some other considerations like bounty manager, allocation, etc you can decide if to join the bounty or not. Most projects do not keep to their initial statements for bounty, while some do.

If the project was not successful, they are right not to rewards any token to the bounty hunters which mostly already informed prior to bounty. But if the project will continue regardless of not reaching their hardcap, they should reward the token to the bounty hunters.

Of course, i think all project like this. If the project not reach softcap that's means project fail and about the token is useless. So he will not pay you using useless token

No, bounty manager will not liable if ICO fail. They not team of project

It's Normal

It is not normal that bounty rewards don't get paid just because the ICO wasn't successful or target not met. I mean, its no problem of hunters if the project team didn't do their underground work well. Bounty is a contract between the project team, bounty manager and the hunters which is me at to be paid no matter what unless stated otherwise at the start of the bounty. The bounty manager should also be held liable cos I know some reputable managers that take their time before taking up management of any Bounty.

Since they didn't not meet their target what then happen to the investors money we're they able to be fair enough and return investors money to all of them? As this happened to me in the year 2017 when I invest to a project that the softcap was not met and they later return all our money.

If any projects ico failed to collect fund then it's going dead, and projects tokens are almost all valueless! they are paying you by their own token but it's just shitcoin.

When the ICO of a project is not successful, the team behind the project usually brings the project to a halt and does not pursue it anymore. If that happens, their tokens become useless so even if they pay out the reward, the tokens will be a white elephant in your wallet so I think it is even better for them not to pay

I guess it’s natural. I mean, a project which never succeeded can not offer me anything. Will they distribute useless, worthless tokens? Or what?
Plus, there are so much scammers in the market and some projects don’t even pay bounty rewards eventhough they’ve reached the hardcap. So nothing surprises me about bounty campaigns anymore, lol.

When you posted this thread, in that time most of the ICO had failed or scammed! So, if a good project can't raise their soft cap then yes they can ignore to pay the bounty hunters! This is normal for every bounty campaign! And, the scenario has changed well, you can do bounties because the crypto turned into a good situation!

In the real sense of word, what use is it to receive bounty tokens from a failed project. If a project fails, it is a bad market to both the investors and the bounty hunters.

Sadly, we still project that raised fund this year has not paid their hunters. They didn't give any reason for this and are unnecessarily quiet in all the channels they engaged during their crowdfund. Even the manager cant say their whereabouts, and this is the project we consider not to be scam according to the same manager. The size of fund is not considered for this action as long as the softcap was reached. Some of those projects lied on the amount raised, they presented high amount and failed to reveal information about the fund.

yes it's normal, because most projects have made regulations or conditions if payments will be made when the project has reached the target (softcap).

of course bounty manager does not have responsibility for this, because bounty manager also works with the ICO team and is not part of the ICO team.

it is a the risk that you have as a bounty hunter if the ICO fails, therefore you must dare to take that risk if you want to become a bounty hunter.

If the project dont reach the target  and the manager dont pay bounty participants this is a normal thing and you can find a notice about that in every bounty thread

and thats the risk to become a bounty hunters for non potential project
because a good project with huge potential, usually will collect an enough money and reach the soft cap my friend

working in bounty campaign has risk too.we will spend much time for it , and some of bounty campaign didn't pay our work at all even this projects reach softcap or hardcap.we need to patient too while working in any campaign.

If the project didn't even raised the target softcap then i don't think they can pay the bounty hunters because it will be useless to send a token without a value, it means that the project failed and can't continue its development.

If project ICO failed just forget it and find another project,there is no way they will work further on the project since they will need the funds to build the new project

yes when bounty manager has been noticed on thread, the porblem is when manager have otoritation for isn's paying participan and don't wrote on rules about this.
there for project has been reached target and paing more than partipan on real project.

It is normal for all new projects to do the same if the sales do not reach the target, the investor's money will be returned.  The bounty hunter will not accept anything if the token is sent also will not have a price.

yes, it is normal that projects will not pay bounty rewards because they didn't reach their cap and bounty managers can't be held reliable for that. It's not their fault that a project failed

In many cases, bounty hunters are deprived of their rewards for working so much hard for crypto projects, and the case is growing over time. Some crypto projects do not pay bounty hunters under various pretexts like their soft cap or hard cap is not met. And bounty manager is not held responsible fully. The management team is much responsible for that I think.

When a project fails, they will be concern on how to make refunds to investors and bounty hunters will just have to find the courage to move on. This is one of the reasons why bounty hunting should never be taken as a full time job. I did many projects that failed and I have to move on.

It sounds unfair but why should they pay for unsuccessful marketing campaign? If any project does not meet their goal in fundraising they are shutting down or developing further but in any case they are not paying hunters.

Yes, quite rightly in the market of ICO projects there are different situations. Some projects work quite well, others start making up different stories. As for example, the project appeared to the team, the admin ran around and took the money from everyone and disappeared. This is the nature of history. And in order to avoid such projects, you need to figure out how to apply the conditions for new baked projects. I think that soon it will happen and all the labor spent will be rewarded.

We all try to choose a project that will bring profit. But often it seems that good project cannot collect the cap and last a very long time, and bounty hunter is wasting his time.

Sadly it is pretty much true. It is the nature of crypto world. And also beware of the scam projects. There have tons of scam projects. I don't think bounty managers are totally liable for this kind of failure. Please research yourself and then join in a bounty campaign.

Yes, I especially do not see the point of the project to pay if they are not going to develop this product , because it will just be abandoned and the tokens will not cost anything.

projects with no product or purpose will not have any value.they should not generate token and distributed to any people, it just be garbage in our walllet.this condition now happen to many new projects , they failed in crowdfunding and could continue project developtment.

I agree with you, if ico fails it is better to refund and the sale is stopped. many new projects failed but did not give announcements to investors. extending a campaign is not the right choice.

Would you had pay pay non investors when you incur a loss in the upcoming  of  a project. where should he pay you from. once the project wasn't able to raise some fund you just have to forget it.

Project has a certain target to reached to be able to continue their project, And when a project do not meet their expectations and so they are not paying the bounty hunters as well. But as I have in crypto there are some project that even they do not reached their goal when they were in sale but they are able to pay the hunters for advertising their project in public.

This is normal. If the ICO of the project fails and the developers will be forced to return the money to investors, then they will have nothing to pay the bounty hunters for.
Of course, they can list you their tokens, which cost nothing, but do you need this garbage?

in my opinion, of course it's normal, because that's the risk of being a bounty hunter, the requirement to become a bounty hunter is very easy, doesn't require a lot of effort and everyone can do it, so it's normal if there is a possibility of not being paid due to the failure of the ICO

You're right. We need to hope that the project needs to be successful, then we can get the reward from the bounty. In 2018 until now, I have participated in about 7 bounty. but only 1 successful bounty and get money from it

if you joined any kind of bounty campaign during crowdsale period, and the project didn't reach the soft cap
mostly the project will not paying the rewards to bounty participants my friend, and i think all bounty hunters knew about that buddy

very normal because most bounties have always been that way and even better like that than paying for their tokens, but tokens are only used as collections, for now there are still many projects like that so if you still follow the bounty, maybe you should be a little cautious and also always check before joining the bounty because it could have been a project scam

Not all knew about that, they are just blindly sign up in any of bounty to hope they will get rich. When they didn't get paid aka scammed or they got paid but the token is worthless, they will complained to dev.

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OP, it's a normal thing. Now close your thread

Expanding the campaign will not help the project succeed. I am pretty sure that the project will become scam and the bounty will never be paid. I have seen a lot of bounty like that in the past, it's all a waste of time with them

what you say is normal. yes the reality is like that. the campaign will reward us if the target they want exceeds, and of course the rest will be shared. even though the concept of the campaign is like that, yes we do not hesitate to jump in and participate in the campaign. because the profit we get is half of the campaign. so don't doubt the campaign for now.

If the soft cap is not reached then they can cancel the project and not pay the participants.

No, it is not for the manager to cover it, this is the life of bounty hunters.

Not all ICO are failure, but it is normal not to get paid if the ICO failed.

Well, I don't see much point in the distribution of the coin , if the project is not to go to the exchange , I think it would be correct if the bounty will be distributed when the project is successful.

it's normal, the bounty is not paid for example if the softcap target is not reached because the team does not have sufficient funds for the development of the project in the next few years, the bounty manager is not responsible if the bounty is not paid even he also does not get rations from his work

Most people who resonate with the bounty campaign don't read their rules as long as they join after the bounty ends and don't reach their target of talking about not wearing it even though it's clear that there are rules.

I agree with you. Sometimes ago i participated in a bounty program without reading the rules and cost me a lot at the end of the bounty. It's important to pay attention to the rules and follow all protocols.

It works like that because when ICO failed to raised enough money, the money will be returned back to the investors.
if the money has returned to investors, then the promoters of the project will get nothing because the project has failed.
That is the risk for bounty hunters, therefore we must find a project which can attract investors because that is a good project.

There are several possible bad scenarios:
1) ICO/IEO fails for some reason. Low funding or some regulatory problems or something else.
2) Bounty scammers. The team may decide not to pay anything to bounty manager and participants.
3) Bounty manager - scammer. He received his payment but scammed the hunters.
4) Bounty pool decreasing. For any reason the team may do this and you can't stop them. 100 times decrease is quite usual for example. "Sorry, but we raised too small sum... We decided to decrease the bounty pool. That would be better gor all the *shitcoin name* holders. Thanks for understanding!"
5) Different kind of delays. Delayed tokens payment, delayed bounty payments, delayed KYC procedure, delayed listings etc.

Keep that in mind and don't be frustrated when you see something like this :)

Responsibility of failure goes to the project itself and to bounty manager.
Bounty hunters bring the investors to the project to invest
 But due to some reasons, he/she not feel confident about it, will not invest.
Another reason could be that bounty manager did not align the Campaigns with the project need. So not enough investors turn around.

The bounty manager only works to promote the project and who pays the bounty participants to remain the team, so if the team does not reach the softcap and does not pay the bounty participant then it is a very reasonable thing

Bounty campaigns have recently brought very little profit. And some even generate income in the form of zero. That is why bounty hunters are very difficult. The lack of solvency of new projects is the main problem of bounty campaigns.

There are a lot of projects that I have worked with and I have not got the rewards of the bounty, If the project does not achieve success and failure to achieve its aspirations and did not reach SoftCap then the project team will return back the investors' money also they will not pay the bounty participants' rewards, Because it will be worthless tokens have no price, The person responsible for that failure is the project team and the developers and not the manager of the bounty because he just has done his job promoting their project, You can do research and review on good ICOs projects that will be successful and then joined it.

This is just flimsy and irrelevant excuses to deny bounty hunters of their reward. To me, a bounty manager should be held liable if and when the project team fails to deliver on the bounty promises.

if the ICO fails or does not reach the minimum sales target (softcap) then it is natural for prize hunters not to receive payment from campaigns that have been carried out for several weeks .. because ICO fails will not develop their project due to lack of funds ... and the bounty manager will not responsible for the ICO failed because the bounty manager only managed the bounty campaign.

If that's the case, that would reduce the number of bounty managers in the space because one mistake they might loss their reputation or worse their account in bitcointalk might get red tag. I think we should not totally rely on the bounty manager, we should also make our own research about the project we are promoting, function of the bounty managers are more like to compute the job done or relay information from the team. to the bounty hunters.

I agree that the bounty manager will be more careful in managing the bounty campaign. Reputation is the most important thing in any field and I don't think the bounty manager will sacrifice his reputation by managing projects that don't have good prospects.

Usually it happens like that. When the sales target is not reached, the developer team does not continue the project and return the money received. In addition, bounty hunters also do not get the reward from promotions that have been done. In my opinion this is a reasonable practice and is not the fault of the bounty manager or developer team, maybe this is happening because of market conditions that are not yet possible

For me it is normal when the ICO fails because if the token is distributed it will not be valuable. Therefore, it is very necessary for bounty hunters not to be too quick in making decisions to participate in an ICO project, it is very necessary to observe and analyze the ICO project, what about the product, how about the team behind it, and what they will do to reach their target.

ICO fails then doesn't pay bounty participants, it's very reasonable thing because by not achieving softcap then they can't develop project and tokens will not develop

I beg to differ on this mate. Its not in anyway natural for projects to just back out of their own stated payments for bounty. Bounty hunters should not be treated as working for free cos they also invest in their time, data and energy into working for the project. If a project can not pay for bounty, it should be well stated from the onset.

bitbond did same shit as topic starter told... hate them for that)

Yes, some bounty don't pay because of the ico failure but there many  bounty project that is paid people to choose a bounty one should research about the team behind the project if team is legit then bounty is legit

its depend on rules but even if they pay you it will be worthless if they cant reach soft cap they wont get volume & buyer for their projects

You are right, the projects should be carefully studied, but how to understand the information about the projects is true or not. Some so can beautifully paint your project, and it is in fact just a Scam.

The strongest always survives. A scenario is not possible where all projects win, if only because most of them are outright garbage incapable of life.
By and large, such an abundant presence of weak projects is a side effect of the freedom that the blockchain gives.

Bounty hunters are paid in the native tokens or any other token they seem fit if the project turns out to be successful. Of course if the project is not successful, they cannot pay you.

People need to take their time when choosing what project to support. Just because they paying well does not mean that is the value of the tokens you will recieve. IF the project fails it is worth $0
If it never reaches an exchange it will be worth $0 and sometimes it just doesn't perform well so the value is very little and you get under paid. You should rather look at a bounty as earning an investment instead of buying tokens in the ICO. Rather take your time and choose better bounties with things to offer and that will greatly reduce the risk of ending up with nothing and the risk vs reward will be worth it.

In my opinion, it is normal if a project does not give a prize to its participants, because the managers do not reach the softcap even though they have to return the money to investors, there may be a lot of obstacles that get it so that it fails to run

When the deals did not meet the SOFT CAP of the group then the installment for abundance won't happen. Except if the group chooses to support the venture without anyone else then the abundance will get the installment however not on everything. I encountered this previously.

That'a the risk in participating in bounty, therefore you need to study what you are promoting that they will have a great chance of success so you will be paid according to what is written in the allocation.

Some project even are successful sometimes does not pay their bounty participants, they are scammers actually, that's another risk, and other thing is some campaign does not pay the bounty outright to avoid the dump, that one is understandable, it's better to wait until the market is in good condition and selling only a portion would help for the coin not to dump.

The team are existing an effort just to list a coin in an exchange, therefore they will find a way to prevent the coin from dumping.

1. It's depend. Many projects allocated bounty tokens according the percentage of raised fund, and almost projects will canceled the project as well as bounty if they didn't reach softcap.
2. Maybe. A reputable BM will ensure the projects they work on, but the final decision will come from the team. So their responsibility is provide the final distribution sheet for the team.
3. Yes, so please do your own research before participating.

If there is no investors to buy the tokens to reach the soft cap then we have nothing to do, it is a failure! we should accept no payment due to project can't continue anymore.
If they send you tokens, what will you do to it? there will never be an exchange!

Is the bounty manager will be liable to here even its not in their control that ICO failed?
Bounty managers are hired to manage the campaigns (bounty) they are not into payment!

I want to joined Soc Med campaign but I read somewhere that some projects really dont pay at end because of ICO failure.

focus on IEO now!

That is very reasonable, logically if a project does not reach the target, then the project will lack funds. so the project will not pay the prize.

The manager is also a worker, that when the project fails everyone gets nothing.


If your research is that a project that you want to follow will not succeed then leave it, because it will not be valuable and a waste of time.

The point is that any project you participate in will pay for your work when the project is completed but for a project that is truly legitimate and also a responsible team. but what needs to be worried is certainty at the end of the campaign, sometimes there are sudden changes such as cutting allocations or having to go through the KYC procedure at the end of the campaign.

true and besides this you have to be aware of the possibility of not being paid as well because sometimes this kind of thing can happen, usually they refuse to pay without giving confirmation but in some cases this happens because the project has become a scam, but this year have not found cases like this mostly happen in the past year but still have to watch out.

If the Yahoo search engine thought like them, they shouldn't  start their first business due to the previous strong competitors. The same opinion can be applied to this case, there are a lot of same problem focused crypto projects. The bounty campaigns that running currently shows the real situation why so many projects fail. Without checking the legit projects, bounty hunters go to fill the required Google form as a project supporter. Flash crash doesn't have any affect on the bounty campaigns but the raised funds start to decrease and the bounty payments got delayed for this reason.

In fact, the bounty manager has nothing to do with the project team. Only if he didn't make a deal with them to cheat. Therefore, in most cases, if the ICO turns out to be a failure, the bounty manager is the same victim as the bounty hunters.

Let us take the idea of cryptocurrency out of the picture now. If you own a store selling groceries and the store makes no sales. How do you expect to be paid? That is similar to what happens with projects who fail to hit their target during their token sales.

If we evaluate mutual relationsthe like employee - employer, like in real world, then of course this is not normal. But let's not forget that we are in the cryptocurrency market. There are no clear rules, regulators, obligations and contracts. In fact, everything is here of our choice and each of us, based on all these features, assesses risks. The participants of the bounty campaigns, it’s like leaves in the wind, where the wind blows, it will carry us there and we can only hope that the wind will be favorable for us. But, each of us has a choice: to participate in the bounty campaign or not.

This has often happened to me when I failed the Bounty Hunter was not paid and the communication network for a project was quiet and the team ran away, if I knew the manager was not responsible for the gift program because the manager was only carrying out the task.

The project should still give rewards to bounty hunters by what they are supposed to get even if the project fails. Because bounty hunters will be very disappointed if the project fails plus does not give rewards according to what they have allocated

If the project fails and the tokens are distributed to the hunters then what about the tokens will not sell at all, so we all just work alone if the project fails, it's better to choose what you think is convincing.

This is really frustrating not getting paid on what you have worked for several months. This is the consequence that you will face if you will participate in a bounty campaign. My advice is just choose a good bounty manager that chooses bounty that has potential in the market at least your chances of getting paid is higher

You think very competently, and give good advice. I also think that there is no need to choose a bounty campaign for the promised remuneration, because these are just promises. You will not believe it if they promise to pay you a billion dollars per thousand people, so why believe that several hundred thousand dollars will be spent on a bounty campaign with a project that cannot collect even 500 thousand investments.

There is actually no point paying the bounty hunters for a failed project. You should know that most bounties are paid in the project token. So, what is the point in having the token of a failed project.

In these days, it is normal for ICO if they are unable to pay bounty hunters because the target not reached.
Usually, the fund raised will be sent back to investors who invested on them, so they don't have any funds to pay the hunters.
bounty managers doesn't have any obligation if they stated the rule in the beginning of the campaign : 'no one will be paid if softcap not reached'.

I believe that bounty manager is not to blame. If from the beginning it was not stated that the project scammers, then blame that they did not pay bounty hunters manager is not worth it.

It's not so bad if the project doesn't pay the more worst that it will be scam and you trust on the forum will be red because you were promoting scam project.

I think it's normal as long as there are rules made in the thread regarding payment that will be done at least if the ICO is successful or reaches the target.
It depends on how the manager will make an action, because to pay bounty participants from their own pockets is difficult because it requires large funds.
So, those are risks that at least the bounty participants must be prepared to face such bad risks and the bounty participants should have done in-depth research so that the activities or work that you do not only waste time.

for the first, normal if a project does not pay bounty hunters when they do not reach the soft cap. they did it because they would return the funds they collected to their investors again, and they did not work on the project. it was called a failed project, and even when they paid the bounty hunter with the coins they had, it would have no value.

for the second, as far as I know, the bounty manager is only responsible for providing information about the progress of the project, even when it fails, and controlling every report from the participants to the team, and vice versa.

very difficult to find projects that will still pay bounty hunters even if the project they are working on fails.

Of course, it is a natural thing to do by the project team, and usually projects that do not achieve more sales than softcap then the payment for participants will be canceled because indeed their project sales results are not as expected, but now many projects have achieved satisfactory sales results / hardcap but does not make payments at all for bounty participants and of course this is a loss for us bounty participants.

And that sucks as the team was able to get the funds that they've needed but failed to provide the bounty rewards. In such events, bounty hunters are only wasting time and effort participating with campaigns that only ends up nothing. Maybe some are still holding the rewards and some who already provided the tokens but failed to list the project to any exchange and still invaluable.

Participants needs to be more careful joining any bounties since there's no assurance even the project reached the target but nothing happens and runaway with the funds.

Yes, it is possible that bounty gets stopped if the ICO fails to reach at least the softcap. And in this case, if the project is legitimate they will refund their investors and bounty hunters will receive nothing because the token sale already stopped and obviously the tokens are worthless.

Well, this is completely normal when the project does not collect the planned funds, then it distributes to investors what was collected. Accordingly, no one will pay the participants of the bounty companies, since the payment is a percentage of the collected.

I think that for any, even a very promising project, the money received from investors during the ico company was very easy.  Almost every project received tens of millions of dollars for words that were not confirmed.  If these projects showed good results in their development and a specific product was provided, then investors would be more accommodating in terms of investment.  But as for the Bounty companies, this is an advertising procedure to disseminate information about a new project.  If the company is not clearly fraudulent, then in most cases the participants in the bounty of the company are not responsible for such projects.  The bounty manager is not concerned.

A lot of this happened at the end of 2018 when ICOs didn't pay after completing the campaign.  That struck the hearts of bounty hunters, making them afraid to participate in ICOs.  But it is important that you thoroughly examine and analyze your campaigns for quality, potential, and management.  There will be a lot of risks during the campaign, they may not have enough money to pay participants because the campaign is not successful.

Every bounty has their rule on the thread and you should read it carefully if you want to earn from it.
Not all bounties pay their participants even if their ICO succeed. Yes, this is true, some team is nuts.
There is also some project who paid their participants even not getting the soft cap. they choose to continue the project by self-funding and still pays the BH.

Of course, if the project failed its ICO and funds were not raised, then there will be no payment for participation in the bounty. As for managers, it all depends on what kind of person. There are such managers that they simply disappear and you won’t be able to get additional information, but there are those who are up to the end and continue to help and answer the questions of the participants. In my practice, there were such projects that failed their ICO and then made a restart and successfully raised funds and were able to reward those who were with them until the end.

Yes
Yes and Yes. Projects don't pay or close their bounties if soft cap isn't reached most people still refund their ICOs investors when funds are not enough. Aside this they can still give other reason not to pay their bounty hunters.

They have the right to cancel the bounty campaign if the project can't collect the enough, the minimum amount from the token sale. Bounty hunters should be able to understand the risks in the bounty campaigns. The team will refund the raised amount back to the investors and they are not supposed to distribute the dead tokens which have no value for both team and bounty hunters.  If there is no money on the budget of the team, they will not go to take a loan from the bank for paying the bounty hunter's reward. I joined so many bounty campaigns, some projects were successfully paid the promised amounts but some projects failed to reach the determined target. and they decided to stop the bounty campaigns after the poor results.

2018 was a very tough year for ICO and bounties. Where the ICO market almost dies and it is not recovered yet. It is the basic rule for a project if they can't make the soft cap they won't pay to the bounty hunters! That's why you have to pick the potential bounty campaign which can succeed! Bounty manager has nothing to do here.

even if an ico was / is succesfull it is not garanteed that you will get anything , i already did some projects who where succesfull in ico but did not pay any bountyhunter

and i think that there are some more people who can give you some project's

still , keep going on with bounty's , earning will come

That is normal for me, because it is impossible for them to pay a prize because sales have not been reached, many people consider the project bad but instead they even have difficulties, the responsibility is not menager but the work team will be responsible, usually if the project does not reach softcap then the project will be stopped, the participants will also not get anything

Their sales did not reach the target ...? This means that the project they are running is not according to plan.
It's very normal to do, because their mission failed miserably. As a bounty hunter must accept that fact, And they also have to return all investors' money, because their tokens have absolutely no sale value.

But most of the projects that did not reach the softcap, they did not pay the bounty participants, some even returned investor money. So we cannot complain if this happens, because the company does not reach the target. But it also extended the campaign period and the sale of tokens. This depends on the method they are running. There were even projects that did not reach the softcap, but they released coins in exchange. But the price does not match the ICO price.

not paid because the project failed during the ICO launch so this is natural and often experienced by all bounty hunters ... and the bounty manager will not be responsible because he works only as a bounty manager and he is not part of the Project team ... then to be a bounty hunter must be prepared to accept this risk even though we have worked a lot of time to promote the project ..

thats the sad truth for joining a bounty or an airdrop  . your efforts will only go down the drain if all fails   .  the system sucks  . would it be better if they revised it ? let say they will still pay upfront for those bounty hunters that do the job well  . they can pay lesser , either from thier tokens or from the established cryptos  but they can pay larger if ever thier project becomes succesful   .  in that way , no efforts will be wasted and all are excited to participate in every campaign .

Or else there is guaranteed price of each token or your effort for many months will be wasted. The better things to do is to pay in half  half btc and half bounty tokens in that case there are no effort will be wasted .

I remember egaas do that campaign before . Or you have an option to choose  for the payment tokens or btc .

I know in those situations that another project campaign announces whether or not they have obtained the minimum target sales of their project, and often return to investors its investments for the project, and also tell bounty hunters that it won't pay off, so that's just what happens to most campaigns even if they don't meet the minimum target, they keep collecting funds from investors, saying it's okay or not, or they'll go another round or phase to collect funds.

It is normal that some ICOs do not pay if the project has not raised funds. Even if they send you tokens, they will be useless since the project will not be listed on the exchange. Therefore, choose the project carefully.

yes, it's normal.
they just have task to manage bounty, if the ICO failed they wont be responsible
many ICOs failed mean that many bounties dont get reward too

there may be other options such as increasing the time of ICO sales to attract investors, but the bounty hunter is also affected, because the bounty will continue until the time specified by dev.

not all projects that do bounty are always successful in ICO sales what else is the current lack of investor confidence in it.

   It`s normal to not get paid if ICO wasn`t successful. How can they pay if they didn`t rise enough money for their
project? Team lose much more then bounty hunters, they invested more knowledge and more time, and they will not
get any money for that, probably they lost their money cause they needed to pay some things in advance.
   Manager is just a manager, he has a bit higher position then bounty hunter. In most cases manager is outside person,
not a member of the team behind the project.

Use your free time to participate in bounty activities, even if you don't get enough bounty tokens, I don't think there is any loss, don't worry too much.

Of course if the project fails to get funds from investors, the ICO / IEO project fails and the bounty participant will not get paid. I think bounty hunters already know all about this, so the thing that is least liked is projects that fail to get investors, if it's like this then bounty hunters also fail to get their pay.