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I was once an investor had few gains to some ICO/crowdsale but made many losses so I decided to stop participating in ICO instead I do bounties and buy it thru exchanges from bounty hunters dumping it.

I know for a fact that most of you know this situation and are guilty of it,  price tends to tank due to bounty hunters selling their share of tokens for cheap. I think its better to pay hunters in eth or other alts rather than risking the price of their token or coin in that way they could also help their investors and boost confidence to their future and their project. Well for me a falling price is a mark of a failing project "ICO's"

not for all actually
if that a good project ,
of course they, i mean team will think about it,
so they just give a small reward of their project.
so price will not affected soo much from bounty hunter.

I think that due to the fact that hunters sell their tokens even at a low price, it does not affect the cost much.moreover, very rarely bounty hunters sell at low prices, because it is simply not profitable to sell at low prices.

I believe that the project team should make sure that investors do not lose confidence in their coin. Yes, bounty hunters often sell their coins immediately after the listing, but it does not do everything and it is unlikely that it will significantly affect the growth of the coin. So I don't think that's a big problem.

This is not true all the time. There are instances where tokens value dropped even without the bounty hunters given their bounty rewards and i have witnessed some of that on my own very eyes. Yes, it might be good for both the bounty hunters and the project to paid it's bounty participants in eth to avoid the blaming later on.

It's because the owners of the ICO don't want to spend the Ether or BTC they have collected. They would rather pay back the bounty hunters with their coins that have not yet shown the market value of which some of them turn out to be shitcoins.

Secondly, bounty hunters help with the liquidity of the token. Imagine if everyone bought tokens during ICO and holds them whereby no one wants to sell them off in an exchange. This means the daily volume of the token will be lower than expected and will eventually end up being delisted from some exchanges so bounty hunters dumping in another way is a necessary evil.

What also happens if you don't get the price as cheap as expected then with that what might be the benefit of you waiting till the end of ICO projects. Investing directly could had fetch you a lot since sometimes hunters reward distribution get delayed for some time.

As a rule, tokens of weak ICO projects are drowned. If the project is solid, then after some time the tokens grow. Payment to bounty-hunters with ICO tokens allows the project to receive free promotion on the Internet. And bounty hunters get the opportunity to increase their rewards after the growth of tokens. Therefore, payment by Ethereum is disadvantageous to both parties.

Yes, this is one of the best ways to pay with ethereum, but according to the price of the token, this can lead to not dropping the price of the coin, so the price of the token is maintained and stable.

I think it doesn't matter what people do with their coins whether ICO or bounties, some can sell even at close to nothing price, we have seen people sell their BTC at close to $20k and not some people feel thesame coin what just $3k+, I still believe the current market is highly subsidize and people will only buy when the FOMO kicks in.

bounty campaigns are not reliable enough and we will fimd out some other emethods of earning money as we need to rely on somethiny

Are you serious about this? Bounty hunters, though often sell immediately after the listing of the coin, but for example this year, almost always first distribute the tokens the wallets of investors and they are sold immediately by investors themselves, and when the tokens reach the hands of bounty hunters, their price is at least 2 times cheaper. Also this year there are a lot of cases when immediately after the listing of tokens, their price drops 10 - 20 times. Is that what hunters sell so cheap? Hunters for heads only sometimes sell at cheap prices, but at prices not less market.

There's a drought in signature campaigns that pays bitcoin so I think that your request and idea about being payed with ETH is unlikely.

The idea of dumping the bounty tokens which causes the whole market of that token to dump, I think isn't the real reason for ones downfall. It's the whole market itself and bigger investors who are starting to take out their shares and getting their money back.

To start, i have not seen any form project ready to pay bounty hunters in etherum, bitcoin or other solid tokens such as ripple, stellar or dash,
But why do everyone think that bounty hunters dump for cheap ?

Bounty allocation is always 1-2% of total supply, while ico sale are always 60-75% above. im not in for the discussion thought.

Truth be told, a bad project will always be ruined in value on exchanges, but a good project, will definitely rise back, irrespective of the low values.

I don't think its the bounty hunters that are to blame for the decrease in token value. They are paid months after ICO ends and before the tokens reaches their wallets, token value are almost 80% down. Some don't even give rewards. Token rewards are just 1-2% of token sale so even if all bounty hunters dump their tokens, it will not affect the price of the token. Those who usually dump are those who brought at private sale because they get 50-100% bonus.

You made the right decision. Because ICO investment is regret. You can buy ICO Token 10 times cheaper

Well, every project has divided the sales allocation of their tokens, and only around 1-5% for bounty hunters. Their decision to pay using the tokens they made must be taken into account. Remember, after all the cause of the price decline after the token listing is not entirely because of the bounty hunter. If the sales strategy of the team is right and good, I think that can be avoided.

I recommend for every ICO project that they should pay in eth or bitcoin for their bounty participants if they continue to blame us bounty hunters for their token that has being dump after it listed to exchange.

Usually the reward allocation for bounty hunter arouns 1-5% of total tokens. I think if the project is good its not a problem if bounty hunters dump the 1% of tokens. Maybe team may send the reward after already listes on exchange. Like 2-3 weeks after listing.

quite rational as well, for example, bounty hunters sell all their tokens immediately after getting a reward and that can have an effect on the price of the token in the market when dumping simultaneously. I agree more if reward is given with eth or other altcoins.

This would be a good strategy. Lower than ICO price trading have hurt investors opinion about ICO and investors not participating in the primary token sale is leading to more and more projects not being able to reach the market cap.

Well, if the bounty hunters are not paid accordingly, they might lose interest in promoting such ICOS, maybe the project might not become successful in the first place, project need advertisers and if advertisers stop, project will not succeed.

Yeah, indeed. It is pretty cool when a coin after they are listing the coin can get lowered than the ICO price because it mean that its time to buy!

I don't believe the reason of dumping of token price is due to the bounty hunters as they sell their reward at lower price. This is not the main reason of price bleeding as those developers knows in the first place that bounty hunters will dumps their token once it will hit the exchanges. The percentages allocation of bounty is not that high enough to crash the token price...it's just 2 to 4% of the total sale token which I think that it can't hurt the whole ICO if those developer have a realistic goals that will attract many investors to buy their token while at cheaper price in the exchanges. Bounty hunters will hold if those ICO has a potential to grow and many investors will buy it at the exchanges if they find it the possibility of getting profits.

welp for once bitcoin drop from 1k usd to 200$, not too long ago ETH got like 1k$ isn't IM not so sure, to be honest. If the drop of the price was an indicator of failing project bitcoin was the mother of failing project then.

I also agree that when the ICO developer pays a bounty hunter with eth, it will be better, and make the bounty hunter avoid arguing that they are always people who do dumps. well, but I don't think it's just a bounty hunter who dumps, but many factors occur because of that.

Complete nonsense, Bounties are rarely greater that 1 or 2% of the tokens issued. The primary source of selling when coins first list are by the people who got huge discounts in the Private or PreSale. 30% is the typical discount and sometimes it is even as high as 90%. There are hundreds of ICO's that were done in the later half of 2018 where the bounty has not been paid but the coin has sold off rather dramatically.

I don't accept the position that it is the selling of tokens by bounty hunters that in most cases leads to the fall in price of ICO tokens. It encompasses more than just that because the bounty percent is usually very minor compare to the ICO total tokens.

Bounty payments has no any effect to the price of any project it has very small allocation if there are someone whos to blame its the ICO team for giving the early investor huge huge super sale discount I can see almost 70% on presale and on main ICO only 5% discount, horrible ico owners making to make huge amount of money from their shit projects.  

It would be very nice if each project gave the right to receive rewards by their token or eth. So a large number of participants would choose eth and thus would not lower prices on the exchange.

I agree with you, blame shouldn't go to bounty hunters for dumping a coin after listing, it's shouldn't affect the token/coin if it's a good project, either way Btc or eth can be use introduce in paying bounty hunters to avoid dumping.

I do not agree with you; projects conducting an ico crowdsale is in search of money in etherum or bitcoin
Asking them to pay bounty hunters in etherum would mean; paying out of their softcap or hardcap meant to develop the project

It is not entirely a smart move

Your speech needs a review
Bounty rate does not exceed 3% of sold  tokens in the best projects
So it is difficult to affect this ratio to the rest of the sold
The lower prices of most ICOs refer to lower liquidity in the market
Note that BTC alone dominates 52% of the market.

I think most ICO projects currently have a bad price when they are in exchange, not because of Bounty participants, but because they are at the bear market, so prices cannot afford to rise, they hope that if Bitcoin rises, they will increase their Tokens price.

I think paying in BTC or altcoin can make things difficult for icos since they might be using part of their funds to pay for the bounties so in case they decide to pay in their tokens instead even if they dont make it they return investors money and hunters are screwed atleast you have to expect that so tokens are much more easier payment and is cheap

Well, if bounty hunters be paid by eth or BTC directly then it would be another liability for the project owner. This idea will do but it would be a healthy way to distribute the tokens from the crowdsale.

It doesn't take much experience in ICOs to understand that it is more interesting to wait for the launch of any market to get tokens at underrated prices! But sometimes, there are exceptions and if so, you can miss the train. Usually this happens with ICOs that have great appeal in the media, big players and some operational product.

well it is not difficult but indeed must to use bitcoin or eth and have to spend funds to increase investor confidence as well as the project that the product has funds to start the initial plan, not only that the initial funds must be there to pay dev and team and build a place. how people will believe if they don't have the initial funds I fully agree with the OP

Are you sure that the bounty hunters who dump the coins/tokens? Actually, I don't believe it since most of the hunters prefer to hold than selling it at very cheap prices. Or you ever contribute dumping it?  ;D

By the way, your decision to stop buying tokens/coins on ICOs is what many people did currently. The cheaper prices on exchanges absolutely attract people to buy there. You just spend lower funds to get the coins/tokens. Actually, I am afraid with the future of ICOs with this condition. 

not all bounty hunters will sell at very cheap prices, if indeed the project has a very good concept, surely there will be many traders who try to maintain prices by buying orders, the tokens for bounty hunters are only 1-2% so they don't affect prices on market

This really varies from project to project. I have experienced a team which have not granted an access to bounty hunter´s coins after half a year because "they would dump them" when the price was 99% down. Like: "would you sell an asset you have earned for a tiny profit from what you have expected?" That is just completely wrong. ICO gold rush is over, but I have noticed a rising trend of way more legitimate projects entering the market. The bloodbath flushed out weaker projects and they are not in a shade of "MAGICAL ROI 1000% MOON GUARANTEED" type of "companies." I do not consider myself as an optimist person, but I have to admit that the crypto space have an immense potential. And I would like to be a part of it- as an investor and bounty hunter as well  :).

We cannot sure that you startegy is sure because for me the best startegy is to buy more coins or tokens to rise the value of it and not to decrease. Because maybe once you buy the token from the bounty hunters how about the hunter the altcoins or ethereum they got maybe they sell also so it is same also so it cause dumping price so better even the bounty hunters not sell their coins they have but sell in the right time.

I also did the same like you :). I lost a lot of cryptocurrencies by investing in ICO projects so I stopped investing in ICO but turning into bounty campaign and buying with low price and the result is that I lost 0.5 BTC. LOL. Sometime it's still better if you buy token/coin directly from ICO crowdsale.

They say the market of a particular cryptocurrency is falling after the end of the ICO, they say that the bounty hunters are dumping the coins, but no doubt that is true, if we really want the price to increase, we should be patient and be mindful about long term thinking.

"They don't affect the price of the coin"? Oh yes they do. Don't over estimate the power of that 1%-2% of those tokens allocated to bounty hunters.
This is the main reason why many developers lock the coins for a certain time to prevent it from going so down to a point of not recovering.
I'm not saying that bounty hunters are 100% the cause of dumping some ICO when listed but they some how contributed to it.

In my view the bounty hunters selling won't affect the prices much because their allocation is very small from the total creation so even if all the bounty rewards sold immediately on exchanges it could result upto 5% or less on the prices and the remaining were caused by the short term investors.

I don't think so, if the project is good and developers are dedicated to pursue the success of the project, the price will eventually recover, pump and dump are very much normal in a volatile market, it's better to have a dump at the beginning then recover and pump , than the coin losses it's value in the future.

This does not apply to all projects. It happens that bounty hunters sell tokens at a low price, but it also happens that if you did not have time to buy tokens during the ICO, after entering the stock exchange, their price is skyrocketing.

every investor must have a risk, but believe now to be more investors lose money. You better buy from hounter bounties at lower prices than investing in ico.

Your analysis is very wrong.  The price tanking is not because of bounty hunters. Many projects lists it's token an a very low prices on exchanges and everyone starts blaming the hunters for selling at the price this projects listed it's assets. Note that the investors who told many tokens have to sell off too in many of this cases.

You generalize a lot my friend. I agree that many bounty hunters tend to sell off their coins (since it is their reward for several weeks of work), but I do not believe that they can influence the price of the coin. In fact, investors dump the price more than bounty hunters because they make a lot of profit from bonuses accumulated during private sales and presales and once it lists on an exchange, they sell off for what we think are peanuts but are actually profiting them. If you doubt me, try and observe projects that list on exchange before sending tokens to their hunters. I can bet you, the price will tank because of short-term investors dumping.

Somehow I agreed with your point. For someone like who was scammed before from joining bounties or ICO, I totally I agreed to pay me in eth than to their coins. But of course I also understand with the situations of ICO projects. Paying with their coins will also help them to promote it.

The price of the tokens depends on the quality of the project, look at the tokens of the projects that launch the ICO on the binance exchange platform, their price is increased five times in relation to the ICO price.

Eth or BTC paying bounties is not a bad idea really. But i would always prefer to be given the option to be paid in ETH/BTC or bounty tokens/coins.

Why blaming bounty hunters, they have the right to sell their coins at any point of time, because they have worked for it, the demand comes from the platform itself and besides we all know that bounty hunters have the smallest shares in the distribution of the supply, the team are the one who likely dump in the exchange.

But in the end, even if bounty hunters and airdrop participants are paid with ETH or BTC, someone out there will still sold the tokens at a low price. It might be a team member from the project or someone who gets the tokens or coins. The best thing to do now is to wait until bounty hunters and airdrop participants finish dumping then the project team may do a buyback program to enlighten traders and hodlers to buy the token or coin.

Some bounty hunters still want to hold with their coins but I think if the hunters dump their holdings, it can still affect the market price but it wont last of course since the holdings of the hunters is very small compare to investors allocation. If there’s a delay on the payment, i think that would affect the project much since hunters will accused the project as a scam.

I think the bonus is not the main cause of the depreciation of a coin. Bonuses are only a very small fraction of the total supply.

Yes right, a little more bounty hunter affects the price in the market, but it also depends on the voin project if indeed the coin project is really good, then the bounty hunter is not a problem for them.

1-2% not too much. But for new projects listed, they don't have too many buyers. So if the bounty hunters sell all at once, I think the price will fall very deep

You have a logic to avoid the dumping of the coin but we can not blame always bounty hunters if bounty hunter get paid in eth that would be much better because that way dev can maintain their coins value when get listed on exchange apart from this I also buy several coins during ICOs but overall my experience was not very good so I decided to buy only when get listed on the exchange.

Before we know that bounty hunters dump the price of a coin but now even investors especially private investors do dump price,i have seen project that dump in price even before given rewards to bounty hunters.

unlike many that feel bounty hunters are the reason for the drop in price of a coin, i will say that is not always true because there are many project that drop in price when bounty hunters have not been rewarded.At times private investors dump price also.

Indeed the amount of coins allocated for the bounty participants would be just a small percentage compared with the total volume of the coins from the project, so it is less likely able to makes the price in the market to fall so much, if it not get affected with another reason.

Bounty hunters keep getting blamed for every ICO that dumps. People are always looking for who to put blame on especially those who cannot deny it, I want to ask, what happened to those projects that listed before paying bounty hunters? Why did the price still get dumped? Bounty hunters are not the enemy, check the private investors who got bogus bonuses and you will see who to blame.

Imperfect development will be fatal, don't blame the bounty hunters for the price down. I feel blaming hunters is not the right thing and this is very worrying. Learning to understand the situation is better than finding fault.

Paying the bounty hunter in ETH will surely makes every bounty hunter to be happy to join the project, the reason would be because they won't need to wait for the reward they get to get listed in the market and able to be sell.

Before distribute the bounty hunters payment, investors and team members selling their coin when coin is going to live on exchange. Even bounty hunters payment lock most of the time. In the last month i received EXP payment but still hunters token is lock by dividend system but all investors and team dumping price -97%.

There is nothing to blame here, bounty hunters does not own the biggest supply, they maybe dump but it will only have a temporary effect.
People are investing in ICO because they believe on the project's future, and if they cannot stand on temporary dump, they should have no business here in crypto.

There are also those who pay Bounty hunters with other tokens, USDT, ETH, BTC, XRP. But it needs a lot of capital, projects that have a hype that are not high enough and are not clear, it is impossible to do that, it might be a loss. Pay with own tokens, many also have higher prices even though the bounty hunters sell their tokens. The conclusion depends on the quality of project itself and hype.

Indeed, looking for a good project is hard to be done these days with all those many fake project who stole the investors money for their own benefit.
The safest thing to invest would be purchasing the coins from the market for any existing coins.

The problem here is they doing an ICO to raise funds if they gonna pay in eth or btc it could lower their budget for development. Also, why promoting such tokens if you wouldnt like to have it? I guess youre only after the payment. If youre a hunter trust your guts on what campaign you are joining.

In the past I did open a post like this one about how dumps of bounty rewards knocks the price of every coins or tokens down and the only solution to me is to pay in other currencies like ETH or Btc ,not in ICO coin ,I guess no dev listened anyway ,only investors should be paid in the ICO token not bounty hunters

From now till the end bounty hunters will always dump there shares and there is no way to control them not to dump the only solution is still to pay hunters in other coins or tokens ,even stable coins like usdt or usdc are very reasonable but its left for developers to pick there choice ,its not a problem for me though because I won't participe in a bounty I can't hodl in the first place

The problem is when the developer can't attract the demand from the market and will create a big dump for the price of token or coin. this was happening anytime and bounty participants was not creating a mistake in this case.

I actually agree with you on this. Only few projects can survive the downfall after paying Bounty hunters. The price of the token can actually make 100% loss after Bounty distribution.
- One of the solutions to this problem is for Bounty hunters to be paid with Eth or btc
-  Before Bounty distribution the project should try and list in at least 5 good exchanges.
- And projects should learn not to take too much time in distributing tokens, this can make Bounty hunters furious thereby seeking how to sell the token/coin for low price.

There are many ways you can do to anticipate when you are afraid of a large dump when shared. starting from division with several phases but actually the bonus at ico is also very big influence when the price on the market

How can 1-2% of the total amount allocated to bounty hunters affect the price of a coin? Even if the hunters discard their tokens, this is a very small amount that does not affect anything.

I was also an investor and invested in some ICO projects but all of them failed or were not successful, I am still holding them and now I am doing a bounty to try to make up for what I have lost

Paying in Ethereum for Bounty is a good idea, But falling price of ICO tokens is just another side of the story, For me the short term token price is not important if the project has true use case and utilization or simply has a working product and services to offer definitely the price will rise if there is a demand of it. thats what i believe because im also participated in numerous ICO's since 2017 and the short term token price is not important.

Many returns to get crypto by joining the ICO, the reason for getting back the lost coins and hoping to be able to collect. This indeed needs to be done to be able to connect the future so as not to die or stop in the middle of the road. Prize payments will have good value with potential development, influence with prices if they are able to save and attract many investors.

Same here  .  i also participated on most ico's and i didnt bother the price after listing the coin because that is too early to speculate the price  . why we cant just wait a little longer ? We can see the true potential of the coin in the future and not on its beggining  .  paying participants with eth is also a good idea and its infact happening on some campaigns but most are still continue to pay using thier ico coins   .

Doing bounties will not guarantee you will have a fresh salary comes to your wallet since nowadays bounty is held for more than 1 year due to the bitcoin crash.

at this time see any bounty that is really making money seems very difficult indeed. Moreover, some of the bounty expires scam and the developers left it. It makes what we do grouping there is useless, but it is part of the risk, there is still a lot of opportunity. We have to keep trying and trying.

It would be good for the tokens, if the bounty hunters get Ethereum payment. What would they do they have to survive, seeing no other alternative they have been dumping tokens in cheap price.

But seriously, absolutely nothing, today the percentage of people who take part in bounty projects has declined very quickly, as probably as everything else in cryptocurrency. Now it seems to me that many people will really do a lot of scam projects.

This happen because bounty hunters want to payed to before token dump also.
The dumper is not only by bounty hunters , it can also by panic investors.

I don't see too many bounty hunter's here. Only those involved in the signature campaign. Most bounty hunter gave up bounty because it didn't bring them money. Since May 2018 until now, the bounty has apparently died

Don't ever despair, there are indeed many Bounties that end with a Scam, but look for the Bounty that you think is clear for the future, look in detail if you are so sure to join there.

I share this same idea and that's what I do now after I suffered in ICOs.


I don't believe the fault of a project failing is as a result of bounty hunters dumping. No, this isn't true. Most times it's the developers and teams that even dump these coins on the investors.


This is true. Also, it will force the developers to focus and work earnestly on getting their projects to prosper after seeing how much they have paid. But if they pay in their own coins, they may easily dump.

I support you on this, I think the developers should pay hunters with eth or BTC according to the worth of the token they would receive. I think that is better but for the price fall of the token I don't think it is caused by hunters trading their tokens.

This is a great solution. I wonder why developers don't do this. Pretty sure that they already have gather huge amount of money after the success of their project and they should be able to pay their bounty hunters with eth and btc. I really wonder why, they could avoid the price of their crypto falling if they do ths.

It won't change the situation. If the team will pay in Ethereum or bitcoin, then it will not have enough funds for development. And if she will to pay very little, then bounty hunters not will to participate in bounty.

I also regret the bounty hunters who sell their coins on a large scale at low prices. Indirectly, this has a bad effect because most people will think that this project is not good. It is true that the ICO project can be considered a failure. However, if the bounty campaign is paid for with other altcoins, it is also not good. If the bounty campaign is paid for with coins offered by ICO, it can add the ICO coin players on the market. Other than that, the impact of other prize payments is if the prize is paid not on time. if the prize is paid not on time, the bounty hunter will ask about it and that will reduce investor confidence in the ICO.

I wonder how the presence of Bitcoin and ethereum in the wallets of the team affects the development of their project? The fact is that today almost 90% of all ico companies may not even collect Soft Cap. Nevertheless, they are trying to develop their projects.

Developers paying for bounties with eth would be beneficial both for the bounty hunters and the project. One of the reasons why the price of tokens dump upon listing is because bounty hunters are interested in cashing out and they are not mindful of selling at very low price. Bounty hunters would accept half payment in eth, because they know there's a market for ethereum, instead of waiting for the projects to get listed which will take a couple of months.

It is better to pay bounties hunters with bitcoin or ethereum but the developers and owners of projects always want to give their tokens as they did not want to makes personal investments from beginning. 

Bounty hunters often lower the price of a coin because they start selling it right away. But I believe that if a team of experienced, it should have foreseen this nuance and tend to coin kept the price.

I understand the situation and conditions because I also experienced it, ICO is full of risks but the feedback is also good if the project is successful. Currently I work more often at the Bounty project because it is quite easy and not too risky, at a glance for the necessities of life and the rest to trade. In my opinion, it is true that ICO failure is a factor in the market decline.

If the project is good, then bounty hunters will never be able to knock its price down with its sales. After all, the entire bounty pool is usually 2-3% of the total number of tokens, and this is not such a large amount.
And if the project is not very good, then nothing will protect it from falling prices for its tokens.

For bounty hunters to dump a token it is sometimes the a problem from the team. This is because to me I think they can start distributing their tokens to them after the project has stabilized its price on exchanges. When that happens even if the price will decline it won't be a great percentage. And the idea of you mentioning that they should be paid with other Altcoins is also a bad idea.

projects don't want to pay bounty hunters in ETH because this coin has a real value and their tokens are worth nothing.

of course that is because if the project team pays bounty hunters with Ethereum they also think in the future, if in the future the coins they make have no selling value and there is no interest of investors to invest in the project of course the team will incur huge losses due to issuing ETH to pay bounty hunters.

because by paying bounty hunters with coins they make indirectly the supply of coins they develop is reduced and some of the loin is mostly held by participants participating in the project for investment.

I think that it is more profitable for the project to pay for advertising with its tokens. This does not require big expenses. If the coin has good liquidity, then bounty hunters will not be able to influence the price. I don't think bounty hunters are a problem for price.

Actually, bounty hunters are just the same with investors they invest their time however there is so much bounty cheater right now, creating dummies to receive more reward they are the one dumping other hunter is forced to sell even in low price it's better than nothing. ico project needs to hire a good bounty manager to audit cheaters carefully, But as you noticed bounty allocation is very low like 1 or 2 % it doesn't affect the market if it has support from investors and the team.

Well, each project has determined the allocation for the bounty project. I think it has been determined by a variety of considerations and risks that are ready for developers. Moreover, the allocation for bounty is very small, the effect is not too large unless the coin or token or the project is less attractive to the market so the price cannot develop.

yes, I agree, a falling price is a mark of a failing project "ICO's". because they should have a good strategy to be able to maintain the price of their coins and I think the existence of bounty hunters should not be easy to influence the decline in the price of their coins, because they have set themselves from the beginning only a few percent allocations for bounty hunters and should not enough affect the decline in the price of their coins. and if that happens then it is clear that the project they built is a failure because they should not only think of their own benefits. they must be responsible to investors and also bounty hunters who have supported them until the project reaches the sales target.

There can also be investors who sell cheaply instead of bounty hunter. After the last price decrease, there are many projects that do not have bounty, but experience great price fall. That actually depends on how the devs will manage it.

And the truth of the majority of these projects is that they are paying the bounty by their own tokens or coins, because they don't have money to begin with, no eth or btc to start with. So to be able to run their promotional campaigns, they will resort to using their coins in order to pursue their marketing side. They will spend nothing but gas fees if in eth tokens.

I'm doing bounties for a few years and I notice that if you receive a payment via ETH then the chances of getting a big rewards is low since ETH will not jump its price so easily but on the other bounty hunters takes the risk of accepting new coin as payment because they knew that the value of rewards are questionable if its go higher or lower from the ICO price.

The bounty payments have no real effect as they only offer 1 or 2% of the supply. The people dumping are the pre-sale investors and most likely the project team trying to raise funds themselves. They don't care as they already have ETH and BTC

Investors should not be worry about bounty hunters. Good project could bring the value of their tokens back (if get dumped). a really good project should be also easily increase their tokens price by developing their product and. I dont think a project tokens price dumped hard just because of bounty hunter, it also because some of investors that look for sort-term profit and then when the price dumped a little, they dont believe annymore in the project.

Right, and I think they are reluctant to lose when the market is in chaos like now, so they say that Bounty hunters are the root of the problem of falling prices, but that is not true, they are only making false stories in this bear market.

It is the impatient that want to make everybody make money immediately within few weeks or months after an ICO forgetting that the moment you decided to invest in a project.

You have to give it a breathing space of at least 2 years before you can start thinking of making profit but most of these ICOs also fail because their community too are not encouraging them rather, they condemn them and put them a lot on unnecessary pressure, so once we chose to invest, we have to know that it is for a long term, anyone that cannot be patient should go into trading instead.

bounty hunters are often accused of being the ones who always drop the price of tokens when they are first listing on an exchanger, we are blamed when the price falls, the parts given at the bounty hunter are very small should it be solved by buying back. in fact, it will not make a loss project even though they have to make a buyback at the ICO price rate.

but in reality the strategy is very rarely done even DEV seems to let the price of their tokens fall.

Bounty hunters dumping can affect price temporarily it would not take longer and it would recover if the coins have good project and great developer surrounding it price may back to where it should be. And not all bounty hunters are dumping their coins there are some who keep holding and wait when the price matures to gain more profit

There is a rule that more generous bounty payments in ICO value, bigger dump after bounty distribution.
So, it depends on after ICO progress and not on bounty allocation. If you receive one million tokens worths nothing, then you will know what I am talking about.

For real? You would blame the bounty hunters for the price drop of the coin?
Look at the percentage of the bounty reward do you think that 2% would really drop it to the bottom?
And not to mention that the 2% is divided into the bounty hunters which is plenty of people and do you think that all of them would sell their share?
Come on don't blame the wrong person stop pointing it to the workers,
As a bounty hunter we work to get the share we also feel the effect when the price drops down ,
Open your eyes how could a small portion of bounty make a huge effect on the price ?

I really want bounty hunters to be paid in eth if it is possible for the project team but i don't believe bounty hunter sells their token at cheap rates because most times before they pay hunters the coin is already a shit coin

in my opinion there are indeed many bounty hunters who do foolish actions by selling tokens from a project at an unreasonable price, but in my opinion not all people only do this action to point out payment problems I strongly agree but most of them apply the participants limits to bounty for which payments are made with btc or other alt

Of course it is better to buy coins from bounty hunters, after they pay compensation. It will be very cheap than pokut coins on sale.

for now, in my opinion it's no longer profitable to buy from a bounty hunter or from a token sale.
Seeing what happened to the ICO project is currently not profitable, it's better to be picky before buying tokens from bounty hunters.

It is not always a fault of bounty hunters. In my opinion, the team is responsible for the first exchange dump. They should have locked bounty tokens or make much more advertisement to make people buy their coins after the exchange listing.

Stupid was this act or not, you can only say after the coin finally falls in price, or the rate of growth will greatly increase. It is impossible to call the sale of coins of little-known projects a mistake, because they can easily not survive until tomorrow.

I wish developers would consider paying bounty hunters with eth or btc. That would make bounty hunting more interesting and the level of commitment would be very high. I remember carrying out a bounty for about a month and was paid about 22$ worth of eth. Sincerely, I appreciated that bounty than the others who promise amazing reward but in their token.

Locking the bounty rewards don't help to projects in my humble opinion. After listing on the exchanges prices tend to lose its value and bounty hunters are first coming to mind for blaming. Bounty payments are the biggest threat to the price of token after successfully sold out.

You chose the right strategy. But you shouldn't blame on all the problems the hunters. Usually the reward for their work is 2-3%. After listing, the price of a token dumps about 10 times. Its not profitable for hunters to sell a coin for a low cost because its result for their work for many months . For many hunters, this is an opportunity to get coins without attachments.

You might be right but its not true that only hunters are guilty of it most huge investors are also at risk due to the nature of most ICO's offering huge bonuses. So leave hunters alone  :)

I don't believe Bounty  hunters are the reason  why token dump and moreover they have the right to sell the tokens which they have worked for whenever they want. But the idea of hunters been paid in Eth doesn't sound bad at all

In 2018, in general, 90% of ICO entered the market and fell very hard. And most projects that fall are really failed projects. But if those projects are falling because there are no elementary products. Such projects may eventually grow.

Paying bounty hunter with ether or btc will be a nice idea but will the project owners fancy it. This is something the mangers and project owners should look into. This will lead to a little price stability. 

And you are the one who will not become a rich person in the future, while others have created millions of dollars from ico that launch on the binance and you are spreading BS about that. Not all of icos are scam. Look at btt and fet.

Do you think that the price drop is connected with bounty hunters? Do you really think that they with their 1-2% tokens can influence the situation?
I do not think so. The fall in prices, in my opinion, is primarily due to the market situation and the low quality of projects (as well as in the absence of interest in them).

It depends on a project itself. If it is a really good one and people are investing a lot of money into it, plus this project collects its hardcap, the possibility of a dump is pretty low. But unfortunately in the most cases bounty hunters have a huge affect on a starting price.

It is not the problem of the bounty hunters if a project doesn't even create enough demand to absorb the bounties that are being sold in the market.

It is not always that bounty hunters do the dumping. The devs also need to distribute the tokens to bounty hunters so that if they start dumping, it will be like it's bounty hunters that are dumping. Crypto is and will always be smart money for smart people.

the problem is with the project itself because sometimes the project is fake or the team doesn't seriously develop it or can't develop the project so that a dump occurs.
then the fact is that investors are currently less interested in crypto especially ICO and that makes projects difficult to develop.
so the bounty hunter can't be blamed on this case.

the mistake is always directed at the bounty hunter, with a very small percentage, the installments being paid, often the delivery of tokens is very late. but we always become suspects when prices fall in the market.
even though I'm sure investors have more coins than the tokens owned by bounty hunters.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion and you don’t need to be insulting when reading or commenting on other people’s opinion since it does not affect you in no way, he never advised that  they should not invest in ICO, after all it’s ICO that brings about token or coin he said they should be picky about which is the right advice based on my opinion too.

Even when you go on Binance, it is not every project on Binance that will see the light of the day, is that not the reason why they are also coming up with their lunchpad ? So, one has to be picky and use his/her senses in picking any project that will bring out one hard earn money from one’s pocket. Just like one of the authors of a topic in this forum refereed to some project as child’s project which I would not also get myself involved with.

In fact, I think this is some kind of myth that hunters strongly influence the decline in the value of a coin.  They have a small percentage of coins. In particular, each, a small number of tokens.  Sometimes it doesn't even make sense to sell them.

I don't think so it's very normal for a price to drop when it hit the market even if bounty hunters dump their shares, which I don't believe in it can still recover if the project is good, not really the bounty hunters but on the confidence of the project that can create its price and demand in the market.

These bounty hunters only receive a small portion of tokens from all tokens allocated. And in my opinion, the price of tokens doesn't decrease because of the bounty hunter. We have to think wisely and I think maybe payment using ETH or BTC will be better. And the success of the ICO depends on the performance of the Team and the developer behind the project.

projects usually spend 3% - 5% for bounty hunters. The thing that they sell immediately when listing on the exchanges will not affect the price of ICO much.

Just stop doing bounty because every bounty in here is just a scam and shit. If you want, just go outside and find a new job because a new job is actually a great way to earn money rather than bounty!

I agree with this that its better if they pay the bounty hunters thru ETH or other trusted coins but there is a risk in part of the team.

What if their ICO doesn't reached the soft cap? Or there are no investors who invested? This is why the bounty hunters are being paid thru their own tokens to lessen the risk instead of paying ETH or other coins. I'm a bounty hunter and what I'm doing is to sell around 60-70% of my total tokens and will hold the remaining for around 6 months to 1 year hoping the price of the coin will increase.

Bounty hunters own a little portion of the total circulation and most of them don't sell. Another reason can be the project itself. If I participate in a good project, I will likely to hold the amount. On the other hand, I will try to get out of shit projects. That's how I think. So, you can't say bounty hunters are responsible.

I think you've learned from your experienced and you make the good decision after not quite successful in participating on an ico. But if you participate some bounty campaign jist make sure that the project is a trusted project and has the potential for being successful.

good for you because you still manage to recieve something from an ico bounty while majority of the bounty hunters are always got scammed and they dont know how to choose a legit one . whats your secret by the way ? can you share to us so that we can also earn a coin that has a value  . its okay if the coins value is small but atleast you know to yourself that its not a scam coin  .

The only secret is researching more and more. Spend some of your time before joining a bounty campaign. Read their ANN, if possible whitepaper and what about the bounty manager. For example, if Lauda, Hhampuz create a ANN bounty for any of the project, although it's not guaranteed, I would take it as legit because they will definitely do their side of homework before start working with a project.

I really understand the situation. I am also aware of that. Indeed, many bounty hunters will definitely throw their tokens at a very cheap price. But, actually we cannot blame the bounty hunter. because all of that is the decision of each person. But it's a pity to throw the token below the price of ico.

Keep away your words about bounty participants make price is drop and down, how come with under 2% coin allocation could make price dump, how ever owner and team have more than 50% allocation and make price is down.

oh, depending on what project ... there are projects paying at ETH, there are projects redeeming their tokens from the bounty, there are also projects with strong support that do not allow the market to be lowered .. you should not blame the bountists, but they lower the price, since most earn it for life .. but the project should also have a well thought out strategy so that their coin does not go down to zero because the percentage of bounty is usually miserable and if this amount of coins can seriously shake the market, then accordingly the coin without strong support and is not worth attention.

  This is one of the reasons I prefer getting paid I ETH or bitcoin ,no matter how good the project is it will take time to recover to better price ,dumping can't be controlled ,the only way is to get paid in other digital currency

I think of the developers has strong support the price will still be standing strong ,I look very well before joining any bounty this days and most times I prefer keeping my bounty payouts so I join good bounties only

Falling prices are a mark of a failed project? how come all the top coins in the market are falling and that does not mean that they are all failed project, that is bad observation all coins suffered from falling prices and all coins can suffer it one time or another, but they will get back up because of the platform attach to the coin.

Bounty payments is the most common problem on the project, sometimes the price is go down because of so many dumpers. And most of the investors that invested at 30 to 50 percent discount is also do dumping thier token so the most common thing when the coin or token get listed is it will really drop like 100 to 10 percent this is really the worst case on ico.

there's many thread about this, hunter said the cause of token dump and should be paid with either ETH or BTC.
i agree for hunter to be paid on ETH or BTC but at the same time i'm also thinking it's normal to be paid in ICO token we promoted since we decide to promote the project didn't it mean that we believe that the project will succeeded? if we didn't believe the project will succeeded in the end then what's the point we promote it.
and also i refuse to believe that hunter was the one that caused token to be dumped on market. what can a measly 1% do to the whole market?
also i believe real hunter not gonna sell their hard earned token in cheap.

if project want to help investor first they should give bonus reasonably for their early investor and pre sale participant.

Okay but if a team is fake or stops developing it isn't surprising that a dump occurs.

Bounty hunters will also prefer to get pay in Ethereum or any other popular listed coin or token but most project developers won't do this because not all developers really care about the price of the token once they get money from the ico

Buying a coin on the exchange after the ICO is better than during a public sale. Because access to the stock exchange gives a small guarantee that the team is working on the project.

Now there are many projects that pay in Ethereum. I think that's good. Thus, bounty hunters do not receive wrappers, but real payment for their work, and the project team retains its tokens in order to provide them with real value.

Most ICO coin prices fell due to lower market demand. or the project doesn't work properly. Therefore, it is wise to choose ICO. And it is impossible for a bounty hunter to cause a dump, because the bounty allocation is only a little of the total supply of coins sold.

Bounty payments are usually 1-2% so it can not seriously impact the price of the coin long term. Many projects do not pay hunters at once rather split the payment in several parts to protect the price of the coin.

They say it is to protect the price of the coin but in reality it is a scam to not pay your workers in full. They do it because they can dump more coins at higher prices themselves.

No ICO is ever going to genuinely pay the bounty hunters with ETH. They would rather pay with their own freely created tokens so as not to path with any profit realized from the ICO token sales. They are all greedy and much more interested in what they cash out from investors during the ICO than the survival of the project itself.

I don't believe that decline in prices in the market is 100% due to bounty hunters. You know that the tokens for hunter bounties are only a few% and that more bonuses are obtained by investors, some coins will experience price drops before distribution for bounty hunters and it's not possible if bounty will pay bounty hunter with ethereum
does team have to take from funds that have been collected in ico?
What about development funds?

ETH as a main platform will go to higher price levels and tokens created on this blockchain increase every day. Bounty hunters are main reason why dumps happen so fast.

Few of the projects paid in Ethereum, usually now if there is a payment from the project with tokens , they are blocked for several months so that the price of the token is not brought down

I believe that your actions establish mutually beneficial cooperation between you, as an investor and bounty hunters. I think this is a good option. The two sides remain the winner and satisfied.

That's how things should be noticed, there's development funds where those bounty rewards should be taken place so theres no actual impact as what others trying to implied, the bounty is not a big portions of the team fundings it's only have a small percentage where if the team behind is really serious about developing the project they can easily buy it back.

Im a bounty hunter but I don't sell all my rewards. If I know that the token hgas potential, I keep them. Bounty hunters only get a small portion of the total sales and even if they sell their tokens, it wouldn't affect trades that much. Those private investors are the ones selling because they bought their tokens at cheaper prices.

Many ICO projects haven't given the bounty rewards yet but look at their price! They are all sank by the investors already. Most of the project sells more than 40% of their total token on average, but they reserved only 1-2% for the bounty and promotional campaigns. Right now many bounty hunters trade with their tokens, only a few and new hunters sell at a low price! So, bounty hunter's has no power to dump a token price for a long time, they can dump the price for a week! Projects like Elysian, Bluzzle, Envion, Terawatt and many more coins price was highly dumped before the bounty distribution!

But paying in ETH or any other stable coin would be a great decision for every project, I like this idea from your thread! Thank You.

how many idiots think that hunters dump the price. few % agaist rest >90%. investors selling their bouses and make offers to sell with lower price.

However, at the same time you can lose a really good chance for earnings, because it is far from necessary that after entering the exchange the coin will start to grow.

Isn't the risk of long-term investment like what you said before joining the ICO project? It is better for us as investors to do research and be careful in choosing projects that we will follow because currently there are many scam projects that continue to emerge and will certainly bring losses

It seems to me that there are actually a lot of opinions about how bounty payments can actually influence the project and the prices of its tokens. The most important thing to start with is that payments are no more than 2 or 3 percent. Therefore, I see that the bounty hunters have nothing to do with it.

It's true that some bounty hunters are responsible for the price dump after listing on an exchange! But a real and big dup always happens by the Presale and private investors! Most of the presale investors are selling coin at a very low rate as they bought with a huge bonus! Bounty hunters are not responsible for a stable dumping market! I have seen some projects who paid hunters in ETH and that one of that projects name was Crowdmachine, but sorry to say they couldn't stop the coin price dumping because investors dumped the coin price and still they haven't recovered yet. You may check my information and then tell me who are the main responsible for the price dump!

We know that bounty hunters often sell tokens they get from bounties because they don't want to wait too long and we know the first token distribution is for investors and most investors also choose to sell it, when the token reaches the bounty hunters the price is even lower. So, I think there is always a cause for what happened.

Shouldn't everybody have the right to decide what to do with their tokens? Whether you buy the tokens or get them through your work, both should have the same rights.
Both can also decide to work for the tokens.

Purchasing after a crowdsale has concluded can have its benefits if the price drops substantially and this is usually caused by early investors who purchased at a significant discount, bounty hunters or advisors and any of these groups could have an impact on the value however, some projects use periodic or algorithmic distribution to decrease the chances of dumping once secondary markets open for trading

Bounty hunters who sell their rewards in an ICO in a cheap orice do not have effect in a project and the coin , it only affects the price of the token because most of the bounty hunters sell cheap because they want to have money instantly even if the coin is not that much in value. And the number one reason why a coin is cheap in value is beacuse of the bounty hunters dumping it in exchanges .

The effect of dump from bounty hunters only temporary. If the project is good and worth to invest, i am believe the price will keep profitable and if hunters dump their reward, i think its an opportunity for buying below ICO price

the coins that are disposed of by bounty hunters are only a small percentage, no more than 5%. and that obviously has absolutely no effect. Large investors are still manipulating prices on the market.

Marketing share is maximum %5, if all bounty hunters  dump the project, it never effects.  It's important not to effect small moves, and not to sell your funds my friend.

but the fact when the bounty hunter receives their rewards, the steps they take only sell without thinking about how cheap the price they sell and a big dump occurs so that traders take that moment to get cheap prices

Bounty hunters mostly will just have a small percentage in the tokens distributed and even if they would dump it will not affect the market because there are more big factors to consider like the investors themselves. Investors would either buy the cheap tokens being sold by the bounty hunters nor sell theirs to get profit from bonuses they had got from buying too many.

As a bounty Hunter, I would have preferred it more if bounty rewards are paid in eth and other grounded altcoin. But the statement  bounty hunters dumping a token is not always true as we have seen cases where none of the token have reached bounty hunters and in few hours of listing the prices has crashed. The substance of the project matter a lot and not all the time bounty hunters should bear the blame.

It is a good business to buy coins on sale from the companies of Bounty companies. I used to try to do this, it was quite profitable.

not always . if the project is great. and really worth it, it will not fall much after the bounty hunters sell their coins. And then everything will return and will grow.

Do you seriously think that 1-2% of people who pay bounty to hunters of the total number of tokens sold can somehow affect the price of tokens of a promising project? You are a stupid person if you think so.
Often the price is torn down either by early investors or the project developers themselves.

It's only temporary but if the developer can provide medium exchange site which can give a lot of volumes and then that will help a lot to prevent the dump. the key is about the liquidity of tokens and that's it.
more demand and more liquidity

Price does not matter for bounty hunter, if the team had good product and know everything could after distributing the shares of the participant, they think for the solution not the bounty hunters need to adjust, as a bounty hunter we have the right to sell it right away.
What i mean is,  there will be no problem at price in any good project right, development make it rise up again

I dont believe bounty hunters are to be held responsible for a drop in price of tokens or coins. In most cases distribution to investors both private and public happens way before the bounty hunter gets his or her share of that token, but you we still discover that the price has gone 60% below the ICO price and that says a lot about projects like that and has nothing to do with bounty hunters

I don't agree that a falling price is necessarily a failing project. Usually coins list on exchange at the time when the project is still under development and coin is not having value yet. It tends to rise up again especially after the project is fully developed so don't be afraid if the price falls after listing, and dump your bounty tokens cheap

Yes, this is absolutely right, mate! I don't know why people can't see the investor dumpers! Everyone loves to blame the bounty hunters, even many bounty hunters blame each other about dumping the price! Bounty hunters worked hard and get paid! So, selling or holding decisions are their's personal! People should stop blaming them, they just got only 1% of total sale tokens!

It is right, that usually the supply for bounty hunters will not be too much and this will not affect the price changes when the coin is listed in the market. But this is different when the supply of allocations for computer bounties is at a high percentage. Actually what will affect is how a developer divides the percentage of the project they make.

Sometimes the falls on the price usually after the bounty campaign, but if the project has not done on their roadmap and couple of months the price are still on the bottom then that is the time to withraw your holdings on that coin.

it is true that a coin price also influences enthusiasts and makes a project successful but now there are many tokens that have low prices and not even prices, surely participants who join sometimes are sad over conditions like this, but it can also go up sometime and give profit, the most important thing is if you hold a coin for now there is a good thing to save it as a long-term savings. Hopefully it will have a price and provide good benefits.

But until now it didn't do much. Make payments using eth, btc or USDT. Actually this is a solution so that when the listing does not occur, a dump occurs because the bounty hunter sells at a low price. I really hope that in the future this project can be done.

If they are serious and wanted not to let the project being harmed by the hunters, allocating this types of funds can be a good answer, knowing that
bounty hunters immidiately dumped the coins after receiving it, if they have enough funds to pay in btc or any other available coins, people who
participate and invest will have a much better chance to grow as they won't think about dumped that will lead to unsuccessful projects.

Every coin has different potential and not all coins are like that. Many coins that have a solid Team and when they enter the market the price is very good. Maybe we have to work hard to get a project like that. But your idea of paying bounty hunters using Ethereum is very good and there have been many projects like that.

im a bounty hunter before but i dont dumped my tokens after i recieved them  and how come that a bounty hunter will dump their coins if the value is only low ? that is bad idea because they will only pay more on the gas or the eth and on the trading fee as well  .

how can they possibly withdrew thier coins that way ?  dont judge the bounty hunters next time meyt because they arent the ones that dumped the price but the whales are maybe the real suspek on why ico coins can get dumped after listing .

Of course, a few percent of manufactured tokens, which are paid to bounty hunters, do not so much affect the decrease in price after listing on the stock exchange compared to the mass of tokens that investors throw into the market. Most of them, buying tokens at a discount of 40-50 percent, immediately sell them as soon as such an opportunity presents themselves and receive up to 200 percent of the profits. This is the main reason for the fall of the new token after entering the stock exchange.
Sometimes ICO teams block tokens to bounty hunters in their wallets for a certain time, but this does not save the token from being lowered in price.
 If the ICO team is so worried about the fall in the price of their token, they can pay bounty hunters to ethereum, I think that almost all bounty hunters would be glad of that.

I subscribe to this because it will go a long way to reduce the drop in price of tokens. Critically looking at it, prices of tokens drops as soon the bounty hunters are been paid.  It is very few of them can hold a coin for a long time. They are always pessimistic about project prices.

But project team is ready to take that kind of risk that pay money from their pocket by trusting their project more,I don't think 99% of team won't do this that is why ICO related signature campaigns are now fully wiped of from bitcointalk.

What else can we do? Bounty Hunter is impatient and immediately sells it at cheap prices. if they want to sell with other people, no one wants to buy and they say "it's better to sell in the market".

I wish your thinking was accurate but it's not reality for the good project. I have seen a lot of projects who arranged bounty but there was no big effect for the bounty hunters to the price. I saw only those tokens prices affected for bounty hunter who had not a strong project.

I think when the cheap coin price is not only a bounty hunter influence, but the influence of the ICO team who do not want to help raise the price of the token and maybe the influence of developments that are not too attractive so the price of ico when entering in the exchange is cheap.

Yeah, buying from exchange after main sale is a good way to buying more with cheaper price.
But of course, buying more when you know the ICO project have a good progress.
Some hunters really want quick money, doesn't care if they only get small amount of money. Poor hunter = selling with cheap price, smart people = buying cheap.

I read a lot of useful information, I think that all this will be very useful in the near future, but I still think that bounty does not have any useful effect for the project, because bounty is a very small percentage.

I can say that you are wrong. What gives generosity? First is free advertising. Secondly, those who are passionate about cryptocurrency can also invest in the project. The more information on the Internet, the easier it is for investors to find and study projects. So this is my opinion.

Also consider the current market situations, with the bear being much dominating its affects how investors and traders thinking about the coins,
after receiving they will think about their investment instead of waiting they will decide to sell it out so not only the bounty but also the investors
who also wanted to avoid being trapped can have a big impact to the coin movements.

Many projects with a strong team have ideas that are ahead of time, which does not allow the project to be implemented properly, and it’s far from the fact that in the future exactly the conditions that are so necessary for the implementation of these ideas will come.

The drop in price of coin can not be attributed to hunters alone, see I believe that the reason why 90% of people both investors, hunters and traders joined crypto is to make profit and you can only get that through selling your coin.

Well, in that way I respect your opinion about it. If you think that it is much more better like what did before, you can go for it.
If there are some bounty hunters selling their shares it is because they need money just very simple as that. Now there are some traders
dealing with some other bounty hunters to buy their tokens while the token they hold or have is still no exchange. So they bargain the price of the token they have in their wallet and Ethereum will be the payment to their token reward. And I don't believe it is a failing project or ico when the price goes down, this is wrong concepts actually.

I don't think bounty payments can effect the project and even the price of the tokens. Price can fluctuate and its normal to have a dump when bounty payments are given. Investors and bounty hunters are not to be blame when the price decrease. It's when the developers failed to achieve what's on the roadmap.

Now there are very few good bounty. But I think that if the project has good liquidity, then bounty hunters will not be able to adversely affect the price.

hunters cannot be blamed entirely because many other factors make the coin fall including the liquidity of the project. so don't completely blame the bounty participants and I agree with you

The mode of payment for bounty is not the problem. The real issue is that the projects have no legitimate product use.

indeed paying bounty by using other alt is a good choice but in my opinion if it is implemented now it can happen but the results obtained are not optimal because it requires large funds if you want to use assistance from many bountyhunters, I often see the bounty paying for it apply participant limit

If the project is good and there is demand then  hunters dumping will be eaten up in a second.
1-2 % of bounty tokens cannot seriously affect the token price long term of a legit project.

i am not fully agree with you.bounty allocation is just 0.5% to 2% and if the project is very good and legit then these bounty hunters token should be buy within second.most token dump bcz of no product and inside selling.

I agree that bounty hunters will be paid in eth or bitcoin, most of the time the bounty tokens are just ended up to shit coins, bounty hunters waited for months doing their task and ended up disappointed because of the valueless coin they got from the bounty

I also agree on that in order to protect bounty hunters from the scam project. I think the best thing to be implemented is to paid bounty hunter a coin that is already changeable to fiat and i think it will be more safe if there will be an escrow, because bointy hunter is really taken for granted after the campaign ends there is no assurance of payment and sometimes we really didn't recieve the exact allocation.

Yes, failure of ICO projects is indeed often experienced. So that not only investors but bounty hunters also suffer losses. Because some bounty hunters also invest. Now I am more interested in buying coins whose prices go down when entering the market. And of course, choosing coins that can still rise again.

It depends to the project if they really want to pay ethereum or other altcoind as for the payment of the participants of the bounty campaign. Because that's true the shares of the bountt hunters or the token they get they sell it that can cause for the token to dump the value. We need to have other way to prevent the dumping price so we will not lose more money if we have tokens.

I do not agree if you blame the bounty hunter for causing a decrease in ICO coin prices. because not always selling cheap prices is a bounty hunter because we all know only a few percents of the allocation of coins for bounty hunters and if indeed the ICO project is good should even though all hunter allocations are sold cheap does not take long the developer can return a good price. moreover, we all know before the bounty hunters sell their coins cheaply the price on the exchange has gone down much earlier than the ICO price. I even suspected insiders that caused the fall in the price of ICO coins.

Absolutely right. Bounty hunters never affect on coin price.
Bad idea, bad planning, bad marketing, bad project finally are the reasons of coin price fall

The real problem is the ICO TEAM, if they think and know that their tokens is good and will be strong in the market then they should not give any tokens to bounty participants.
They should choose to pay them in BITCOIN OR ETHEREUM this will put away the token dump.

This is a great solution and I think that a lot of projects have already listed to it. There are few bounty programmes with a certain percentage of collected funds as a reward. This protects the investors and the token value.

Do not think that bounty payments has so big effect to the price of the tokens. It is more connected to
the market situation and the demand for the coin. Bounty rewards are only small percentage to the token
supply and  hunters dumping is usually only an excuse for price crash after listing.

It is crucial in crypto trading and investing to adopt our strategies to the market situation. Things can change very fast in crypto and we have to be prepared for it and not to continue doing wrong.

If the DEV team of that coin is good, or that project is good. They will not let that coin fall. Prices may be reduced by a bit due to the strong sales of the hunter. But soon the DEV team will throw money into the market and pump that coin up. Paying ETH or BTC to the hunter is practically unnecessary.

Well for me a falling price is a mark of a failing project "ICO's? not really Eth and all the good coins are falling but they are still profitable, bear in mind we are in a bear market all coins are showing negative returns if you think that the coin you bought from the dump is good then wait for the bull run to come.

many investors feel disappointed with this, so many investors who are tired of taking part in the ICO because this is to choose ico now must be more careful

I witnessed a bounty before that offers a huge reward but the thing is it reached its hardcap so it was kind of a hyped project. Then the listing comes after and it made 5x the ICO price and still it managed to stay between the price even after bounty hunters dumped all their tokens. All I am saying is its the state of the market makes the new ICOs fail when newly listed and not the bounty hunters.

Without bounty reward, there are dozens of projects that have been repeatedly dropped. In the price decrease, the bounty also has a role, but not in all of them. In my opinion, evaluate the current situation, you will find the best answer yourself.

It is rather unfortunate you attribute the dumping of a coin to bounty hunters. Bounty programs are normally run by a small percentage (1% to 5%) allocation of the total supply. How can sales of 1% or 5% of the entire supply dump a coin on the market. Dumping comes from the team who normally begin to sell their holdings gradually right after listing in order to make their profit sooner. Bounty hunters can hold a token for more than a year hoping for the price to become something big because the bounty rewards are often small.

I am disagree with your opinion about bounty reward could make price is down and lower, look how many percent allocation for bounty participants under 3% and how come could make price is down, team ICO and advice is make price down higher allocation for them.

if after ico ends, investors will still provide financial support, I don't think it will have a big effect on bounty hunter payments.

Many projects thought like you that it's the bounty hunters who dumping the price, so we have seen many projects who gave payment in Ethereum and Bitcoin instead of their own coins to protect investors from the bounty hunter's dump! But can you imagine, what exactly happened? Price went to the tank even at the first day of listing! So, it is not the bounty hunter, the only big investor can dump the price badly!

Some investors are waiting for the time when the project is listed on the appreciated exchanges. Low amount collecting ICOs usually are get listed on small exchanges and bounty hunters dump instantly for making quick cash. Investors take these cheap tokens and sell later on the other exchanges.

Well, i guess many people started to stop participating in Ico and instead of that they tried their chance by joining bounty campaigns or buying tokens through exchanges from bounty hunters who dump the price. Just like you did. These days almost there is no ICO anymore cuz no one wants to invest since they don’t trust the system anymore. Btw, it’s actually might be a good idea for the team to pay hunters in Eth or Btc in order to avoid dumping.

The effect of bounty rewards dumping depends on the project itself, does it have a working  product or not,  is their a demand for the coin already or not. If no demand for the coin yet, dumping can hurt the project hard
 and will heavily recover from that. If there is huge demand for the coins bounty dumping will be eaten up in a  second and it  cannot have significant impact on the price long term.

Yes, usually those projects that keeps on falling the price upon listing their tokens in the exchange is not a good sign and there is a big possibility that it will failed in a short period of time.

A good project with a better team experience and marketing techniques will not fail easily even after listing their tokens in any exchange. They will surely find a better way to minimize this kind of problem as in the first place they already know what will happen once they will send out the bounty rewards to the bounty hunters.

it would be great if they paid at ETH, only recently there is such a tendency not to pay bounty hunters at all, well, or to cut the pool to such an extent that participation in a bounty at best is estimated at $ 1) so it’s not particularly where it is necessary to take it, they give it, and it’s already ETH or tokens that don’t make much difference, the main thing is to keep their promises and pay.

Some mature ICOs lock their tokens until their products are launched so it prevents dumping to some extent.

I've seen many posts like this in the past saying its better for Devs to pay hunters in ETH or bitcoin to avoid dumping tokens but I'm yet to see any bounties that follow this idea,i think it's the best way to stop dumping

I don't think so, although bounty hunters affects altcoin's price but in a small percentage only. The one who affects the decreasing price of the altcoin re the ones who invest because they have much volume unlike the bounty hunters.

yep! that's right, indeed one of the ico failures was that prices continued to fall while in the market. but paying bounty hunters with eth or other altcoins is not a good solution, i'm sure some investors won't approve it and this will cause other new problems.

i think a good way is to make them believe in the ico project and run the project according to the roadmap, i'm sure that will help make a lot of people stop dumping.

I really don't agree with you about this. Most people say bounty hunters are dumpers and it have effect on the tokens price on the exchange. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. The bitter truth is that most tokens dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period.

I wonder about projects listing their coin to their exchange if the would need to buyback in order to satisfy their community when there are no buyers on their platform? I am just having a little lose on trust about some platforms as my buy order isn't bought up to now. And I think that would have an effect to the project.

When project hits the exchange decide if it is worth dumping. If a price is solid then sell as you will have a chance to get in at lower price for sure.

If price is 0 then you have no choice but hold and hope for the best. But i agree i don't understand dumper who selling tokens they got for few months work for $2.

I participated in a bounty that received its value only a few dozen dollars, but after evaluating the project. I feel that they are still working and very potential, so I think I should hold, in addition I am purchasing it at a very cheap price for hold long time

Most bounty Hunter are in bounty solely for the meagre revenue they make from participating . It is therefore expected that they would zoom off the moment the opportunity shows up. I think dumping on the part of hunters is distasteful reality the system might just have to learn to live with

I have this feeling that these ICO's don't have enough eth or btc to pay bounty hunters and even if they got funded they will still not pay for bounty hunters with a tradeable token, because they knew that the price that they are going to pay for bounty hunters are cheaper when they pay with their own token, because they did not know if the price will go up or down, because the market dictates the price and it is very uncertain.

All ICOs that are not paid after three months of waiting will not be paid at the end. Do not entertain yourself with hope.
Most likely, they had an original plan — not to pay bounty hunters. They will have thousands of reasons for not doing this. For example, at least they will enter KYS. And for many, it is a minus in the project, and not all bounty hunters will pass it. Again, unpaid tokens will go to the profit of the project.

Most ICO team are telling on their investors at telegram group that the drop of price is due to selling of tokens from bounty hunters.
If that is the case, then why they keep sending tokens for payment? they have the investors money with ETH/BTC! why can't they send that as a payroll?
If they believe that their token price will go to the moon! why would they allow bounty people to be the wall and slow their flight?
What true is, early investors with huge investments are selling early to get out of the project and take the profit.
They should be holding and setting locks on those tokens.

changing payments for bounty hunters with BTC, ETH and Altcoin is a good idea.
You are right, we can handle this ICO token and not worry that the price will be dump from bounty hunter.
but maybe almost all ICOs will never add ETH to pay for these bounty hunters.
I just hope that bounty hunters can become investors and think a lot about investment and ICO will also increase again not only in scam and fraud projects.

I disagree that bounty hunters are responsible for price dumping since the percentage they are given are usually a very few percentages. Price crashing and dump is a direct representation of team mismanagement and lack of innovative skills. Hunters do work for their money and they have the same right as anyone does. If the team feel hunters are bad blood to their project, to prove their own sincerity, they should pay hunters in stable coins.

Some bounty hunters follow a project not only because of the size of the prize, but because he believes in the project. The bounty hunter advertises a product from ICO, so he has the right to get what he promotes. if the bounty hunter gets another coin because the Team is afraid of a Dump, then how can the Team doubt the future of the project itself  ??? ? if the project is good, then why should be afraid of a dump?

Making revenue from bounty tokens is not a bad idea for those who have enough experience in these campaigns. The effect is various from my experience because the bounty hunters sell or dump the bounty tokens on every exchange.

nope. paying with their own coin/token is good for the project. they payed it to support the project.
and also the dumping is not cause by the bounty hunters. not at all.

That is why I advocate reducing the number of participants in bounty campaigns. This can be done as the introduction of additional professional criteria, and additional conditions for the ranks on the forum.

Dumping the bounty tokens is not ethic from my experience, so holding the bounty tokens can make more BTC for bounty hunter if he is patient. Some criterias are unnecessary for bounty hunters and bounty managers make troubles for the bounty campaigns participants.

This is a hardcore lie which is being repeatedly spread by the scammers. Note the following points carefully:

1. The bounty pool ranges from 0.5% to 2% of the total pool, for most of the projects
2. In the past, it have been noticed that 90% or more of the price crashes were caused as a result of the promoters dumping their coins
3. Many of the bounties do not pay the rewards immediately. There were cases when the participants had to wait for as long as 6 months.

MOst of the people providing Tokens instead of ether or bitcoin they already might convert this Ether or Bitcoin to exchanges also they never bother about investor they pay some fees to exchanges again this people make hype and sell these coins . Some bounty hunteres sell in begining lots still keeping most forget about coin.

Yes we had the same strategy right now. In 2017, I'm actively participating in ICOs for all my funds but when the fall of ICOs and bear market arrives I decided to join bounty campaigns and wait for the token to get listed on centralized exchanges and much better in decentralized exchanges like forkdelta because hunters are selling it very cheap.

Even if the bounty hunter dumps his token, you can't really blame him. His duty is to promote the project, and most of the time the bounty hunters do that in a very efficient manner. And in the end he gets peanuts for his hard work. It is not a bounty hunter's responsibility to prevent dumping. If the tokens are getting dumped, then why can't the promoters purchase them at a low price?

For example, if the ICO price was $10 and the dumping happens at $2, then what's wrong in asking the promoters to purchase the coins back? If they are confident about their project, then they should do that.

Hunters are not dumping it. The dump after the first exchange listing is the poor fault of the team and their management decisions. If they are not able to make investors buy their tokens after the token sale, hunters have nothing to do with it.

Yes, you've done that and every bounty hunters have done the same. If you decide on holding and you find out that the price keeps reducing you are left with nothing than doubting if the project is on it way down and might hardly recover, and regret will be next. Paying in eth can be good but worse in time

Paying hunters with eth or btc is a very good idea, it helps keep onto the exact price of the token on exchange site, distributing token to hunters will spoil the token price in no time.

for me any payment related to bounty should use bitcoin or ethereum because with this it is likely that the price of a coin or ICO token does not drop dramatically. all also depends on the ICO project field itself.

This method is not efficient after numerous discussion about this topic. Paying BTC is not ok for bounty managers due to public intelligence. The abuse level is higher and bounty hunters really "hunt" such bounty campaigns.

besides that the two coins are the best coins so people will also be very interested so that the project will be better known to people.
besides that bounty hunters will also be more patient in holding it because btc and eth coins are safe for the long term so they are not afraid to hold on for a long time.

I agree with you to some extent. At the beginning of bounty program, projects mention something like a million dollar value bounty. But when the tokens get listed, bounty hunters get only penny, few dollars. If bounty hunters get payment in ETH instead of their tokens or coins, it will have two positive impacts, bounty hunters will get their rewards in real value and since they dont receive project token or coin, it will not be dumped and the price will be stable. Bounty hunters can then buy these tokens or coins with their ETH rewards if they feel the project is good which will surely increase the demand of tokens.
However, seems project's knows real value of their token, it might be expensive for them to reward with ETH.

Bounty hunters receive a reward, a very small percentage of the total volume and cannot significantly affect the fall in prices for tokens or ICO coins.  When the company’s tokens enter the stock exchange, orders appear with very large amounts, and these orders do not belong to the hunters because they do not have a large percentage.  Investors themselves probably do not believe in the future of the project and sell as soon as possible.  For this reason, the price falls, and the project team is difficult to recover.

In fact, it has different properties as there is less bounty hunter here, it means that it will not be allowed for everyone. Community team has better and more activity and considering the aspect of token pricing. the bounty hunter must have the token symmetrical interiors.

Of course, if we talk about rebirth for the participants of the Bounty company, then from the point of view of the participants themselves it is really better to receive remuneration in ethereum or Bitcoin.  I would not at all refuse to be rewarded for participating in the Bounty company by any coins that are very well traded on exchanges and valued among users of cryptocurrency.  But we have to take into account the fact that developers will never do that, because not all valuable coins received from the investor are taken away, and the tokens are created, which in most cases cost nothing today.

Yeah, it's true what you say that the low ICO token price is a sign that the ICO failed to maintain its ICO price on the market. Of course this will diminish people's trust in the ICO. It is indeed better to pay bounty with other potential altcoins so that bounty campaign hunters are also eager to do their jobs. By getting potential coin prizes which have no doubt on the market price, the campaign hunters will be bounty about their enthusiasm and maximum work in the ICO bounty project. I myself have proven it and my motivation is even higher if I get potential coin prizes, like eth and bitcoin.

Sure. Just if the project does not want to pay) This is the main problem today. If they wanted to pay and did not skimp on advertising. They could set strict requirements and high standards. What would improve the entire ecosystem. But no one needs this.

I disagree that bounty Hunter are responsible 100% for tank of coins price.
These days the dumping of coins is caused by private or presale investors who must have gotten the coins at a very cheaper rate coupled with the outrageous discount percentage given.

What to say. Scammers who can not do a normal project. Get paid for their work today is almost impossible. What to discuss 1 case of payments per hundred.

Do you have any data on sales of tokens by private or presale investors? This can be useful when bounty hunters are accused of dumping.

Bounty hunters are not the one to blame. In fact, many investors get bonus too much up to 100 percent for private sale. Think if they decide to sell all of their tokens for 50% less and they will still have 50% profit from total investment. This is why, I dont really like projects that give bonus too high as there will be potentially dumped.

Bounty are made to make the coins and project more known and yes bounty hunters will put some works to get paid, and most of them sell coins for money as fast as they can.

project developers certainly expect the tokens to be launched to be able to be promoted by many people, so that if bounty hunters can be paid in other eth or alt forms, of course this cannot be utilized by the promotion program they carry out, because it aims to increase investors who are interested in investing in it.

We should learn to live with and we should be ready to face anything about the market, I think quitting bounty is not good decision because we know it does not charge anything to spend time with bounty so even if they pay low amount of money we should be ready to take part and to be part of it, system will come to the track very soon.

Until now, not many projects have paid bounty hunters using eth or other altcoins. Because those who carry out ICO also need funds for the development of their projects. Of course if payment uses eth, the project is very difficult to do that. Therefore they allocate their tokens to bounty hunters. For the problem of falling prices, of course all decisions are in the hands of coin holders and some project teams must also maintain the price of their coins.

Actually it does not seem fair to blame the bounty hunters for these eventual falls in the prices of the tokens, because the amount of tokens given in a bounty campaign rarely exceed 1 or 2% of the total, and that amount compared to the remaining 98% seems to me too small to move the market so massively.

I have no doubt that there is a market manipulation that makes almost all ICOs collapse as soon as they are listed in the exchanges, otherwise this erratic behavior in prices could not be explained.

Huge bonuses is normal and almost all the ico that i see do always have that feature  .that is thier key strategy to attract potential investors and this was also the reason why ico got alot of investors . investor came for the bonus in order to earn a profit , thats why its normal for them to dump the coins whatever they like because they invested a capital with it ( they invested money )  while you/us bounty hunters didnt invest any single penny so why we are the ones who complains the most  ?

This is not always truth because I have participated in many bounty campaigns before delay the time of paying bounty hunters yet the price sank. Bsse on my opinion, bounty allocation is not enough to sank the value of a project, there are many factors that come to play when it comes to this.

The CRYPTO space is evolving therefore several evolution is taking place which have an impact on bounty and payment, base on the development from ICO to IEO, lots of developers now feels bounty is not necessary to have a successful fund raising and also the bear market has an influence on payment to bounty hunters.

I think you're wrong in this one.. Most of the time.. when a token is listed on exchange it looks as if hunters are the ones doing the dumping. But it has been proven times without number that private sales and presale investors are the real dumpers not bounty hunters... hunters in most cases... do not have enough token to bring down the price of a coin

Another scenario of token getting dumped is a situation when the team are not truthful with the amount money raised.. they'll make bogus claims of how they've raised millions of dollar.. from investors only to get listed on exchange and then you'll notice those investors they claim to have are imaginary

Bounty payments are usually a small percent of total supply of the coins and long term they can not have price impact but short term they could. Demand for the product is the key for the price.

why do we mostly consider bounty hunters dumping their tokens is the main reason for the fall of a project? only 1-5% are mostly allocated for bounties but bounty hunters are the most blamed. the amount reserved for bounty is not enough to bring the price of a coin down and also the fall of a coin does not mean its the end or failure of the project.

The only effect i see is that hunters payment affect market because of the mass dumping,most hunters dont hold all they do is to receive and dump immediately which do affects investors and affect the project as well.but what i observe and will keep saying is project with good foundation will keep going no matter how the dumping may be.they will keep moving and nothing will affect them. this market issues really affect some project to the extent that they cant even pay hunters.

Bounty payments do not have any big influence on the project. Only ICOs with a very weak team management, can allow a price drop after exchange listing. There were so much examples of hunters getting real money, without any price drops after the listing.

I think that's not matter with regards bounty hunters dumping their tokens after they received their part from bounty. Because its only around 2 to 5% were only allocated from bounties, so it just a small part compare to those who invested from a project. If the project was really a good one it will last like some top altcoins who still profitable to invest.

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Some people say, bounty hunters will dump token/coin price, but if the project have a good development, thats no problem!, they can wait the market move and sometimes team will buyback their tokens/coins. Actually tokens/coins will not dumped by bounty hunters if rewarded with ETH or BTC.  ;D ;D ;D

A lot of big effects tru the project as investors will assure the tokens will not be dumped after listing and it will not be killed after listing as we know bounty hunters has been res for token dumping but i think they are not i see investors dump price also,so to assure bounty hunters and investors will benefit the project must lock a payment on bounty hunters and project will benefited more about this as investors will be attracted to join the project.so the developers and managers must think about it.

In addition to what you said, I don't any reason why 7% which was the highest allocated token pay for bounty hunters this days will affect the price of a project after exchange listing but what most project owners ignore is that what usually lead to the dump in price of project after exchange listing are causes by the early miners.
Like you said only ICOs with weak team management are the project that usually dump in price after exchange listing.

Yes in fact ico coins and tokens are undervalued after it gets listed. Only few of the project had succeeded to increase their coins and tokens after listed in an exchange.

Bounty payments are relatively smaller shares but it is essential in promoting the project. At first, bounty team are good at bounty hunters but later on some of them will become snobber knowing that their ICO period is almost done and bounty hunters work is not anymore.important to them. Sad reality!

Well, participation in the bounty does not require much experience. After 2017, many people became greedy, they want to earn thousands of dollars from one project, which they chose almost at random in 5 minutes.

We are all hungry. Because many projects offend us and do not give rewards. We have to work hard on the topic of projects that pay at least on paper.

The effect isn't as bad as most people see it, reason being that most developers usually set funds aside to use in repurchasing the tokens given out. So it doesn't really have an adverse effect as many people think.

Many people think Bounty hunters are dumping the price, but if you look at the allocation of the tokens, you can see that hunters are usually getting less than 5% of the total amount, which do not have a big impact on price. Anyway, the best option for the project is to make payments in BTC or ETH.

This depends largely on the project. If the project is really good and has enough financial resources, actually the money for bounty is quite small compared to their capitalization. Many projects still succeed despite paying a lot of rewards for bounty hunters.

Therefore the one who will blame for it,is either the investors and the team behind it because technically they are the one who has a great control to the token due to having a huge allocation for them. I also think that eth and btc must be the primary mode of payment and the team must convert their coin to either btc or eth if they are going to pay participants so that it wont affect the price of their coin too much.

Bounties are indeed for a project to get succeed but most of the projects were blaming bounty hunters for dumping it,if they dont need dumping they should pay in bitcoins.

The problem is not only hunters fault but also project dev. They always want cheap means of getting their token marketed and that is while they choose to pay hunters using token. Some of them do not have enough capital to build a well functional site not to talk about getting promotions. We have seen in the past where project decide to pay hunters in btc just like few ones on the services section but bulk of project prefer token

Exactly, ICOs are not really potential, not many investors will make ICO quickly dumped when listed on exchange. The number of tokens that bounty hunter receives is very low and is only a part of ICO's price decrease

If you are going to invest with the mindset of long term holding, then you shouldn't be bothered about the few tokens that will be dumped by bounty hunters.

it all depends on the team managing the project because they really know the condition of the project itself.
for example, the hardcap ICO at this time does not guarantee that the project is successful because of a variety of things so we really have to choose a project that has a good team that can manage the project well even if it does not have large funds.
so big or small prizes don't really affect the success of the project.

Bounty hunter sale their token low price. They sale all time low price their token. It never bring any effect of this project. Payment of bounty hunter of ETH. Its a very good idea.

Projects should create utilities for their tokens that way the price will always be high, blame shouldn't be put on anyone who wish to sell his earned tokens at the current market price. Bounty hunters are working and most have financial needs to meet which they can only do by selling the tokens they earned from promoting an ICO.

I agree with you definitely. Since bounty hunters are working to be paid, paying them in Ethereum or Bitcoin is a better way to prevent them from dumping the tokens given to them. On the part of bounty hunters too, they will not have to wait for a long while before they can exchange the tokens.

The problem is the companies ahave been collecting much less ETH than they used to, so they don't have ETH to spare on bounties. They gotta pay with tokens and this is probably unavoidable.

But no one will now pay in eth , the project will simply be at a loss , it is better to pay in tokens as it is profitable for the project , and in General the ico is not in the best spirit

It is undeniable that bounty hunters dump, but before that, there are some set of people who also dump, but that it is still not clear whether investors or those who partner with the project team are the ones that dump tokens and cause the dump from the beginning.
Therefore, bounty hunters should not be blamed for dumping their tokens, because a good project will not be affected any any dump from them.

Though falling price mark can be attributed to a failing project, I do wonder why people mostly blame bounty hunters for dumping while in the real essence, only 1-5% of token distribution is allocated for bounty. Investors dump and bounty hunters also dump when both see price falling. we should consider that 1-5% of token distribution out of 100% is not enough to cause fall in price and to make bounty managers and investors really understand this, project managers should decide to pay in ETH and still observe if they won't see great dumping of tokens. people should refrain from blaming bounty hunters and face the reality.

I also believe that the ico is currently not profitable for investment. And at the same time the market has a lot of one-day projects. This means that confidence in such projects has dropped significantly. I also went to bounty hunter. But i don`t want to promote one-day projects. At the same time new projects appear daily and they need to be properly filtered.

To avoid falling prices on exchange, projects need to create a system gradual transfer of tokens for bounty hunters so that they gradually sell these tokens.
But the project itself should be promising and very often communicate with the audience.

It's your wrong thoughts, bounty hunters aren't promised not to sell, in fact, no one is promised. Everyone can do whatever they wish, no bounty hunter is guilty. You are blaming bounty hunters, imagine, no bounty hunters sells, who would dump then, you investors of course and who will be the loser? It's bounty hunters.

the amount of bounty does not exceed 1% of the total amount of coins, in most cases. Even if all the merchant hunters sell tokens, it will not have much impact. if it's a quality item, it will respond quickly, in a few days.

Bounty payments is necessary to distribute once the bounty campaign has been concluded. Many people blame bounty hunters once the token's price breaks down upon listing, but not all the time bounty hunters are the main reason behind it, remember that most bounty campaigns had only a small amount of allocated reward, mostly behind 5% from the total supply, so for me it affects the price but a little bit only.

It is not only bounty hunters that are dumping the price of a coin, private investors are also guilty of that. Paying bounty hunters in eth may not be the solution to the price of coin especially when a project is not solid.

in this matter I agree. actually there are many alternatives so that the bounty hunter does not make a dump on a project. it can only be done when bounty hunters are paid using other coin alternatives. well, but, when the bounty hunter sells their assets together, of course there will be a dump. however, it all depends on the developer.

Yes I think it should be paid btc for every bounty hunter this is one of the best ways in all the ways. Then there will be a lot of benefits for every investor. Because the price of any currency is reduced by a lot of bounty hunter.
However, it is fully observed on the basis of the team development plan.

Of course, bounty hunters often sell tokens at a low price and because of this the price of this token falls, but investors and the team themselves are also very often involved in it, so if the project is good and will continue to evolve, then in the future the price of this token will increase.

Stop already groundlessly accusing the Bounty Hunters.  When the cryptocurrency market was in a much better condition, then the projects developed quite actively.  At the same time, participants in Bounty companies did not influence the development of these projects.  We should not make baseless accusations.

It's still with how the team will carry the project to it's succession, the payment for bounty is also needs to consider but not that big, it won't affect that much if basing with the allocated percentage, be as it may everything will be in the hands of the team if how good they will develop the project.

I don't understand this logic. Bounty payments represent around 1% of the total revenue. So you are saying that in case this 1% is paid in ETH or BTC, the project will run in to loss? If that is true, then the project will be a very weak one. I have been arguing for the bounty payments to be made in ETH for a long time. But the ICO promoters are against it, for obvious reasons.

if the project is indeed good it will not be destroyed just because the bounty hunter sells coins at low prices because the bounty hunter is only a small part of the owner of the token.
after all, if the project is potentially good, the bounty hunter might not sell their coins because they also want a great advantage.

yes in all the ico the bounty hunters make a dump of the price of the tokens when they put them on sale on the various dextralized dex immediately after the end of the ico, the ideal would be to pay them in btc or eth, but this implies a cost, an expense, instead paying them with the tokens of the ico the cost is practically zero...

Previously I also had that doubt. But Actually, the amount of token they share with the bounty hunters is a very small amount. so it's not making a big effect on the project. Otherwise, if they gonna pay bounty hunters with Eth or some other alt, they have to do it by collected funds from the token sale. No one gonna does that. I know there were some projects. but not all of the projects willing to do that.  If project got success hunters will have their share, if not they didn't lose anything. Actually, it's ok with their side.

Hunters will always sell in the minus. Better at least some money than nothing at all. If there is no demand for a coin, do not blame the hunters.

I think that any influence cant be on project from bounty payments, only weak projects loosing it price because of bounty, which is have 1% from all project

Often the fall in prices has a negative impact on the project. Investors are losing confidence in him. But this is not the most important indicator of the success of the project. The most attentive investors analyze the project and determine its prospects in order to understand whether their coins have a chance to grow.

Look at it from another perspective and you might find out that is not only hunters that are selling those tokens cheap Sometimes even before they are paid the coin/tokens is already listed and traded on various places thats enough to tell you that hunters are not the only problem The project team sometimes have issues too

In my opinion, although bounty hunters affects project or token`s price but they have only in a small percentage. and totally the one who has a big effect in the decreasing price of the token are the investors who invested because they have a much more bonus upon purchasing in ICO and investors had a more volume than that bounty hunters.

That's it that 1% is a drop in the sea!A normal project can redeem this 1% by itself so that investors do not panic.A shitty project will blame all the troubles of the participants of the bounty and not themselves.So always do weak people and weak projects.

Bounty hunters do not so much affect the fall in the price of tokens after transferring them to the stock exchange, as is commonly believed. Of course, they may have a little influence on their price, but their role is not so large compared to the influence of early investors who buy new tokens in the initial stage of an ICO with big discounts, and then immediately sell them on the stock exchange, having virtually double profit in a very short period of time. However, for some reason they always write that bounty hunters are to blame.

Yes, that is the main reason everyone is waiting for instead of paying tokens to the bounty better pay them in the form of ETH so that it will help the investors to make a decent profit. Even they are very less number of token to the bounty people, so 1% from their raised money.

In some cases when the bounty allocation is higher and there is no demand for the token
bounty dumping can really hurt the price. At the same time it is an opportunity for the investors
to buy cheap tokens if they are confident with the project.

we have to love our token. just look at future dont't sell it fast when going to market place. look at past when token new begining.

I don't think bounty hunters selling off their 1 to 5% of the total allocation of a project will have any significant influence on the value of a project. If the project is solid and the team are doing all what's needed of them to do, its value will also grow even with the dumping of bounty tokens.

In fact, not all bounty hunters will immediately sell tokens. and the amount of bounty tokens will not exceed 2% of the total amount of coins. its impact is very limited. they pay the hunter with the token of the project. it is good for the circulation of this coin.

I don't blame bounty Hunters for selling their tokens as soon as they get paid after the bounty campaign because they are not investors, but I blame the developers who cannot pay for advert in Bitcoin or ethereum because they want free promoters which I believe has its own consequences.

A good project can attract a lot of investors and this will create good liquidity and that means a lot of volumes to prevent the dump. Bounty hunters can't be blamed because the project itself will play an important role in its liquidity.

This is about how good that project is.

A lot of useful information about bounty hunters and that really use bounty payments. I think that all these bounty does not affect the course of the price in general, of course at the very beginning they can affect, but in general it has no effect.

Why always putting blame on bounty hunters when the price was dropping, actually the rewards for bounty hunters was not affect that much because they just giving a bounty hunter a small amount for their hardwork why don't you think that the owner itself sometimes the reason why the price is dropping they have the huge amount or let say they have the bigger allocation for each the member sometimes if the member see the price was profit then they will be taking advantage on it.

I don't really understand why so many people say that bounty hunters are the main cause of dumps because I think the bounty hunters only get a few tokens, unlike investors or teams, only a few percent, and as you know that such small allocations must be shared with all the bounty hunters who took part in the project while not all of them wanted to sell, there were some who tried to hold the coins, so it was probably a bounty hunter to make the dump smaller, right? because not everything sells, so I will ask you, are you really sure that a dump happened because of a bounty hunter's fault?

Basically that project is indeed weak, I agree with you. if that project is very strong, there will be no problem with ETH payments.
if I remember again, there were a number of projects that I joined and was paid with eth and it proved that the project was indeed good. unlike projects that pay with tokens that are mostly scam or have no value.

After get paid bounty hunters and token listed exchange many bounty hunters sell their token so crpto is dump and start bear . Crypto market. By participate bounty you will know best ICOs and should do ICOs invest, problem isn't hunters it's big matter of fall cryptocurrency.

Opinions of people are completely different, some believe that now truly bounty hunters are breaking prices, but I see that this is not the case and it seems to me that all of this is exclusively investors and the overall situation in the market.

Bounty hunter are getting the coin after their hardwork.so they just want to encargó their money. They just 3 to 5 % of total supply so i dont think they are solely responsible for dumping. But from crypto ecosystem the bounty hunter must be motivated by giving Them in form of usd or btc itself. They feel good And help the project to reach to mass

The idea of bounty hunters selling their tokens immediately after getting rewards which affects the pricing on the market is most times false, how can bounty hunters who received just 1-5% of funds allocation dump to affect pricing but I second the fact that bounty hunters should rather be paid in eth or other altcoins which will be a real evidence to note if a project will still dump or not.

Even out of the 3-5%, we might still have only 1-2% being dumped while the rest are still with the many hunters that decide to hold for better price or just so because they believe in the project. But hunters are to blame for it.

Most projects benefit from paying bounty hunters in tokens and not eth. I have seen projects where they had not up to 20 investors, which means that there will not be the required number of token holders needed to fulfil the requirement for listing, which is why they might need to pay bounty hunters with their tokens to increase the number of token holders. Another means that some of the imbibe, is to airdrop little to airdrop participants in order to increase their community.

Yeah that would be a good idea to pay bounty hunters with eth or bitcoins but I do not think that team handling the project will allow it because they need it more than the bounty hunters. The coin they created is not as valuable as eth and bitcoin for they still need to promote the coin or the project to the community.

And they do not care also if their coins will go down for the investors to hold and not to spend it cheaply as much as possible.

Folks not just bounty hunters sell of at any given opportunity for various reasons including the fact of the volatility of the market. Such  massive sell of most times lead to o dump

I fully agree with the author, bounty hunters are not to blame for the token dump, since the share of funds allocated to bounty does not exceed 5% of the number of tokens. It is all about the weakness of the team and the unattractiveness of the project, as a result, tokens are of no interest to potential investors.

I am also a big fan of payment by ethereum. That way both, the project and the bounty hunters can benefit. The price of the project remains stable and the bounty hunters gets their share without costing the project. So win win situation for both.

I equally do Bounties, before now I used to think that it's bounty hunters that crash the price of tokens too. I had a rethink when a project called Online.io sometime listed their tokens last year and Lock bounty payment for like 6 months. When bounty hunters were finally paid the token price was nothing to write home about. What about that?

I don't think every bounty hunters sell their bounty rewards, if the project is a good one, bounty hunters too hold the coin. So, it's wrong decision to blame bounty hunters for the market dump.

Actually it's not bounty hunter fault. Some project already dump on the first day even didn't distribution token to bounty hunters.
It's still depends to the project, if the project is real good of course it will not get dump hard. But if the  project is bad and lack of demand, of course investor avoid it.

Usually after a bounty payments and once the tokens/coins are being listed on a crypto exchange/s, some people are expecting that the price will be dumped once the bounty hunters will start trading their rewards. But not all the time, bounty hunters gonna dumped, sometimes they hold it once they see that the tokens/coins they are holding will be great in the future.

Bounty hunters do not have much opportunity to influence the price reduction of new tokens, especially against the background of such opportunities of investors. Headhunters are allocated only a few percent of the total number of issued tokens. At the same time, investors have the opportunity to buy tokens in the initial stage of ICO with significant discounts and then immediately sell them on the exchange for the price of ICO. Therefore, the constant accusation of this of bounty hunters is unreasonable.
At the same time, almost none of the bounty hunters will be opposed to being paid in ethereum or bitcoin.

You are being too generous. Usually the bounty pool is just 1% to 2% of the total budget. Even if we take the upper limit (2%), just 1% of the tokens will be dumped on average (provided that half of the bounty hunters hold on to their coins). If the prices crash due to the dumping of this 1%, then I would say that project is worthless.

what really they thinking? bounty hunter just holding like 3 - 5 % from total supply
how they can dumping price if the amount not big as investor. the real dumper is investor not hunter

It is right to say that the work is not good if the project is not good or save the token is not fun. So I think we should keep a good project token collection.

it is very possible, indeed the amount is still very small, but if the trade is still very small, and too many bounties that sell it will make a gradual decline. and if it occurs continuously without buying from a large volume of markets, the price can drop lower.

I don't agree with the fact that prices tank solely because of the dumping effect of bounty hunters. There are so many projects that distributed their bounty rewards after a number of months of trading, but the value still dropped substantially even when the hunters haven't been paid.

In fact it is often already in the event of a dump, the one who is blamed is usually a bounty hunter or airdrop. But I am here not wanting to blame investors or bounty hunters, because without an investor the coin is nothing and there is no price. So a dump like that said by Sammy21 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126643) might be true if the bounty hunter continued to sell without buying it, it could have been a dump.

In any case, at the initial stages, people do not understand that prices fall due to the huge number of bids for sale, so people need to react to it somehow, since prices must be kept for the possibility of sale and interest in general.

its not bounty hunter false if they dump their token,they get token freely and could do anything with their own token.before bounty reward distributed price dumped by investors too, so its not totally bounty hunter false.

If the project is strong then it should have good liquidity and. For this reason, I think that if the project is strong, then bounty hunters will not be able to greatly influence the price. If the project does not have good liquidity, then bounty hunters will be able to derail the price because no one wants to buy these coins.

indeed, not everything is wrong with the bounty hunter, but in some cases, in reality it is indeed a bounty hunter that causes a dump. and maybe that was followed by investors who panicked. obviously it will make the dump worse. each project has a different case.

Yes, I think everyone will turn to prizes and trade if market conditions continue to decline. I personally lose money when investing in ICO. The project that I am following is not real and I am not careful in determining the ICO project. But for now, I start doing gifts and trade every day because it is more profitable

Bounty hunters is most cause dumping price of the tokens, but if we analyze that not only the bounty hunters also the ICO investors but not all because who ICO investors who bought token in pre sale or who purchased cheaper value than them so they sell it fast too. Depends to the coin also because if the people think the coin are potential for sure they will hold it so the dumping price is depends also the potential of the tokens.

some good project treat well the bounty hunters who help promoted they project, with fast result of the final rewards sheet and then credited them fastly, and the effect i think is good, some hunters become their investor with help that token and making the value of the token rised.

You are totally wrong in this term! I don't think bounty hunters are the reason for the price dump! Look at the Venapay project or Bitdepository or TCAT! Their partners, investors are dumping the price on exchanges, many projects have distributed the bounty payments yet but their coun price becoming zero! For what?
Only 1-3% of the total coins are not a big deal, mate. Hunters can't dump the price, they can down price for a week or month, that's it!

this is a big misconception that bounty hunters can affect the coin dump after listing, see how many percent hunters get, take into account the fact that half believe in the project and will not sell immediately, others simply do not have time to follow all the projects in which they participate. it turns out that sells only 1 %. really affects the price of selling early investors, those that belonged to presale. well, in extreme cases, the tokens are drained by the developers themselves, if the project is Scam.

If the project is really good why dont they just pay the hunters with ETHEREUM or BITCOIN?
Many team blame the participants for its dump in the exchange.
Though, they want to pay in tokens as it will be an addition to volume in exchanges.

I really dont get it! lol