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Here is their website: https://dominium.me/
In the AIR DROP section, we see such an announcement (still preserved) https://dominium.me/ru/#airDrop

"Air Drop

FREE tokens will only be shown in your balance once you have passed Clearance Level 1
INTRODUCE a new user and earn from 5% to 10% commission when they invest!
REGISTER an account as a company and receive 25 DOM tokens.
INTRODUCE a company and both of you receive 25 DOM!
A total of 100,000,000 DOM tokens (10%) will be given away during the Air Drop and Referral Program."

I have 67 refrails for this program. Until November 30, my account was 1675 DOM, respectively.

And on 04.12.2018, the following letter arrives in my mail:

"Dear members of the Dominium Society,

We make some significant changes to our ITO structure to protect our investors and our community, as well as remove any fake user accounts.

After extensive discussions with the community and our investors, over the past few months we have decided to make the following changes:

    Airdrop program
        From Monday, November 26, Airdrop will only pay DOM (KAZ) 25 tokens for newly registered users who have been confirmed by KYC "Clearance Level 1" and created / designated an Ardor wallet.
        All Airdrop tokens displayed by accounts belonging to people who have not been confirmed by KYC "Clearance Level 1" and do not have an Ardor wallet until the end of November 30th will be deleted.
            These tokens will “return to the bank” as explained in clause 9
            When these users go through KYC and create their own Ardor wallet, they will receive their 25 DOM (KAZ) tokens
    Referral Program
        Users who invite new users to Dominium will receive commissions as described in the referral program, but will no longer receive DOM (KAZ) tokens. In spite of this:
            If inviting users convert commissions into DOM (KAZ) tokens, they will receive a 25% bonus.
        DOM (KAZ) tokens obtained for referrals who have not completed KYC and do not have an Ardor wallet will also return to the “bank” as described in clause 9
    Bounty program
        This Saturday, November 24th, 2018, the bounty program will be completed.
            Due to the rebranding problem, a limited number of participants, and a shortened period, the number of DOM tokens (KAZ) rewarded per participant will be limited to ensure a fair distribution of rewards.
            The manager of the bounty campaign will inform all the campaign participants.
            All non-distributed DOM (KAZ) tokens are returned to the “bank”, as explained in clause 9
            All previously distributed DOM (KAZ) tokens for participants in the bounty program will be issued in accordance with the same blocking period as the Seed Round investors and founders

After that, the referral tokens are completely deducted from my account.
In the first picture my Balance is with 1000 DOM (unfortunately I did not scan when I had 1675 DOM), and in the second picture I had the Balance that I have now.
https://imgsafe.org/image/9655b02cd1
https://imgsafe.org/image/966f6da86c
DOMINIUM didn’t have any “extensive discussion” and even a short discussion with the community, but just retroactively changed the rules and reset the accounts of its members.
For a company that positions itself as "engaged in real estate", such actions can be regarded as a direct deception of members of their community, but simply speaking - these are scammers!

I pay attention again. These people still continue to mislead gullible citizens and have not changed anything in the AIR DROP section.
You can see for yourself: https://dominium.me/ru/#airDrop

And also note that on the first scan to the left of the site’s address there is an inscription “Dominium B.V. (NL)” and on the second scan this inscription is no longer there. Maybe their site was hacked and why such changes?

Another thing is alarming. If you try to connect to their Telegram channel via a link on the site, you will find that there is no such channel in the Telegram.
When you try to connect, the following message appears: "Not found. There is no Telegram account with the username you provided."

Interesting fact. If you need to contact the Dominium support team, you will have to pay 0.25 Euro for the message. Imagine a situation where investors receive any disturbing information and there is a need to contact the support team. Good money can earn Dominium on bad news. ;D

Have you talked to the team regarding your concerns? Or did you went ahead and posted here?
Changing bounty rules and bounty pool does not necessarily make them scammers as they have the right to adjust at any point in the campaign.

Yes, I wrote to their support team. They replied that they changed the rules. They did it in retrospect. At the same time, the old rules are still published on the company's website and the fraud continues.

The fact is that to attract referrals, I spent not only my time, but also money. I backed up my hopes for paying bounty with these funds. I have fulfilled my part and have the right to expect the fulfillment of promises from a company that collects funds for its business from private investors.

I did not participate in this dominium project, but it is regrettable if this big project becomes a scam. Do the rules for bounty participants also change? Example: Sometimes the initial rule does not require KYC, but when at the end of the campaign the project team makes regulations that change by requiring KYC. Is that one problem? It would be better if you consult with the project team first, to ascertain the reasons and get answers.
Thanks.

I knew it! Thanks!

I heard about this project and it seemed to me very promising. strange that he was a scam. maybe this is really just a restructuring?

There is a fact: until November 30, I had 1,675 DOM on my account, and today the company wrote off 1,650 DOM on a false pretext, without consulting with its community members. I would not have doubts about the actions of the company if the rules were changed for new members. But when the rules change in hindsight, then there are doubts that the rules will not change for investors. Where are the guarantees?
Thanks.

AT first t was DOM, then KAZ and now its MPG... ;)

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Accusation will not affect the entire Dominium project most specially if they are strong community. No one can broke this team unless they are really scam but hopefully the accusation will remain as an accusation. It would be better and more reliable if you take a picture as evidence of accusing as them as scam.

If this is a restructuring, then it is not carried out in an honest way. I note once again that a solid company does not change the rules of doing business retroactively. if the company's actions were not thought out earlier, when rules were introduced, then there is no reason to shift their mistakes to the community.
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I have scans. Including my correspondence with the support team. But I can not post pictures here. Probably my Newbie status does not allow it.

P.S. I posted scans links to my topic.

At the first impression of the site everything is fine. You may not like the conditions they offer. But they have the right to change them. I think we will soon find out from investors whether they are fraudulent or not.

I hope that investors will think more than once before investing their funds in a company that changes its rules "on the fly" without first discussing them with the community.
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In many companies, the total number of coins allocated depends on the fees, and here again the fees were not impressive against the background of the falling market, so we decided to complete the company. Of course, the reasons for rebranding and fake accounts are indicated. It seems, as for the first round of the company it was necessary to pass KYC, and in the second it seems cancelled, and now declare that accounts fake.

Yes exactly.
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I was looking to promote that project by participating in their bounty campaigns because the bounty program budget was quite big but at the same time i had some negative feeling when i was researching about the project, i somehow got negative vibes about it so skipped it.

I can't say for sure that they are fraudsters. But the fact that they change the rules as they please, at a time when the bounty hunters are not aware of this and spend their time and money to attract referrals. This causes very negative reactions. And the desire to warn potential investors to be at least cautious.
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Cmoon guys. Projects can not make everyone happy. Reducing Airdrop or bounty rewards doesn’t make them scam. I am in Dominum team as a bounty and telegram manager. I lost some of my refferal bonuses too. But, team already announce that and gave a deadline. According to announcement you wont get refferal tokens if your referral doesn’t pass kyc and add an ardor wallet to his/her account.

I know team made strict changes in past days. But, They had to do it in order to survive this market situation. I think these changes doesn’t make us  scam. Our core team so transparent about that. You can make a phone/video call if you want. I can get a phone number from our managing director or marketing manager etc.

Hello. You write that the project can not make everyone happy. I do not argue. But if your team is serious and responsible, then it should not shift its mistakes and losses to its community. You do not care about the fact that people have spent their time and money to attract referrals. But we brought referrals by your rules. Now you are writing that referrals must pass a KYC check so that I can get tokens on my balance. WTF?! What did you think about before? You changed the rules. And how should this be interpreted? And where are the guarantees that you do not want to change the rules for your investors and come up with some new rules, following which they will be left with nothing? Any business involves risk and your case is no exception. But in business it is important to have a good reputation. Even better Impeccable! Are you ready to save $ 1,000 and lose your reputation? Then you have no place in business! Go sell candy on the side of the highway. And if you want to do your business honestly and responsibly, then let's introduce new rules for new project participants and not distribute these new rules to those who came to you earlier. Business does not do this way!
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Sorry, this page is not available.

Is their page blocked on Instagram?

I think that they use dishonest methods of promotion.

Such projects can deceive investors. I would not invest in dominium

We didn't write KYC issue now. We already announced that 2-3 months ago. KYC is a good way to avoid fake refferals. If you managed an ico project you would understand that %10-30 of refferals are fake.

Hi, no we didnt blocked on social media channels. We just made re-branding. Our new social media name is MaxPropertyGroup.

I heard about this project, but for some reason this whole project did not inspire confidence in me and therefore I thought that I would not invest and promote this project, that is, to take part in the bounty. I think he looks like a scam project.

Thanks for logical comment my friend. Peaople calling all projects as a scam nowadays. Their aim is to survive in this terrible market situation. If a project distribute refferal tokens without making a KYC, %20-30 of them will be go same participants. Cuz creating fake e-mail adresses and add hundreds of refferals is too easy in this technology age.

For some reasonss this whole project did not isprie contifence in you thats why we are scam :) You guys really ridiculous. :)

Do not pretend that you do not understand what I am writing. In no rules was it that the incoming referrals must pass through KYC in order for the tokens to arrive on the balance. If this rule acted, then firstly on my account the tokens from my referrals would not be displayed (see the scan on the first link I published), and secondly you would not have to write that you entered new rules or changed old ones.

Are you claiming that 67 of my referrals are fake accounts created by me? So you want to blame me for fraud without evidence ??

And you guys do not cause laughter, but complete distrust and doubts in decency!  >:(

I spend too much time and letters for your project. Two links are enough to understand that you are fraudsters.
https://imgsafe.org/image/9655b02cd1
https://imgsafe.org/image/966f6da86c

It is very disappointing if there is still a project to this day that leads to fraud. I can't imagine if I participated in this dominium project, of course I would be very disappointed. Sometimes there really has to be a solution on how to be selective before deciding to join a project or investment. This is very detrimental to many parties.

I think no. If the denied only bounty or airdrops, it doesn't seem that the projects is scam. The market is too bearish now. It's difficult to pay bountyhunters their payments.

I participated in this project, though I attracted only two referrals. Made Ardor wallet, they transferred tokens. It feels good. Many projects, which, if the participant attracted a lot of referrals, blocked the account. Then they demanded evidence of how referrals were attracted, etc. Write in support, in the telegram chat, in bitcointalk and ask.

Nevertheless, one could act honestly: leave the balance sheets of those who came earlier, and introduce new rules only for newly arrived participants. Then there would be no questions to the project team.

I am writing to their support. They charge a fee to contact support. They removed 2DOM from my balance for two support tickets! :o  And the telegram chat is not working.

We announce KYC issue 3 month before. It was not a new update! I lost at least 10X token from your tokens due to my refferals. But, i didn't create a topic to say that they are scam cuz they dont give my tokens etc. I know team announced KYC issue a lot of times in their main chat group. Where were you or your refferals? Most of airdrop participants are same.

Join telegram group via airdrop bot
Mute group
Come after 5 months later and ask where is my tokens
No read updates, No read Announcement.

Then create a topic to blame them as a scam project.
Good luck for your scam alert.

Yes they charged a 1 token fee. Cuz most airdrop participants dont read even 1 message above on main chat. They want to make their participants more active. So, when he/she saw support service is fee, they will try to find answer by reading  chat history on mainchat.

2. issue: Telegram chat still active, they changed telegram link due to re-branding issue. Check here and feel free to ask questions to me or other members. https://t.me/MPG_Chat

Don't lie to me! See these scans. The first scan is a correspondence. What three months are you writing to me? Read what the support representative wrote!
https://imgsafe.org/image/af616749e9
The second scan is the site page. Scan made right now!
https://imgsafe.org/image/af3c4ce56c
Can you read Russian? If not, I will translate you.

AIR DROP
Register your account as an individual and get 25 DOM tokens.

INVITE a friend and you both get 25 DOMs each! (underlined in red on the scan)

Register your account as a company and get 25 DOM tokens.

ATTRACT a company and get 25 DOMs each!

In total, 100,000,000 DOM tokens (10%) will be given to Air Drop and referral programs.

Show me the place where it is written that referrals must pass KYC in order for the tokens to be credited to my balance!

Here is the link https://dominium.me/ru#airDrop

It's not even funny already! And very sad. I see for the first time to charge fee for contacting the support team.

There is nothing strange when you guys fall into a scam airdrop :). When the market is very strong like at the end of last year, number of scam airdrop were very large so I think at the moment number of scam project has increased a lot so it's very normal when a new scam airdrop detected :D. The only thing you guys can do is checking more carefully before joining any airdrop ;)

You can contact their own telegram  groups
They are active and answer questions
Total There are technical problems and they have changed their token name
They cut the bounty twice because they cut the hardcap

Looks like you're right. :(

And therefore they introduce new rules retroactively? It does not look like fair play.

I did not find their account in instagram.
I think that in any case, you must be very careful before investing in a company that does not fulfill its promises.
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There are so many scam projects, just few of them are foiled during ICO and then someone announces them as scam. There are still some other projects that are scam, yet they in their ICO, but reaching either softcap or hardcap. My take is that, a project that cannot deliver at least 90% of it's milestone as promised should be suspected and people should not take it lightly with such.

I also ask same question, because if we see the bounty dominium, reward for bounty hunter is so much, about 5M usd, i think this is strange. But many good review about dominium also many bounty hunter promoted, so many member join in this. But because i think this project strange, so i keep away from it

I don't know whether it is true or not, but I see on the telegram group that the bounty hunters in the first phase has received their coins. This project looks very promising with its great concept, the real estate. And they also have their real product in the world. Hopefully, this is not scam.

I also received my tokens for referrals which I brought to this project at the first stage. And I had tokens on my balance for all the referrals listed.
Now compare the two scans. On the first scan, my balance is 1000DOM for the first 40 referrals. The second scan is also my balance. Only now on my balance 23DOM. Dominium cut off all my tokens that I relied for referrals under a false pretext.
https://imgsafe.org/image/9655b02cd1
https://imgsafe.org/image/966f6da86c

Bounty are now known for policy changing when it doesn't went well or when they feel achieve their target and don't want to reward basically, I see no reason for team to just be changing rules any time and feel they have the right to do so anytime , I participate in one bounty also and ever since they started the bounty , their team of bm never even ans peoples queries not to talk if staking the work of people and when the bounty end the team said people should continue with now formal write up or old trend change to new rules so with just mere talk but if it were to reward they will gives a clause that rules can be change, which is purely a scam attitude.

Indeed, positive thinking can reduce our burden, not give a chance to scammers but this is indeed done, and if it is proven to be a scammer, at least you are ready, every time there is a risk.
Not only Dominium has distributed the tokens, I also have tokens that may not be able to enter in exchange, so they are limited to possessing but cannot be exchanged.

I think so .There is know positive process past weeks  Now most of the ico scam only . We can't say anything about this .

I completely agree

I joined the bounty for Dominium, and DOM tokens were already listing. It's just that the price is very low. Maybe because the current crypto situation is all the same. If their ICO price is 0.1 Euros, it is now very small.
For bounty phase 1 distribution has been carried out, but for the condition of investors, I have not observed carefully what happened to the Dominium. What I know is that the dominance channel, specifically the telegraph channel outside the bounty, is still active and has changed its name to MAX Property Group.
I say this does not mean 100% confidence in the Dominium project, but is trying to assess slowly. Because I followed very many campaigns. Hopefully dominium isn't a scam, considering their pay is high for bounties ... ;D ;D

Take another look at the scans I posted. And all your hopes for big payments will fall.  ;D ;D

https://imgsafe.org/image/9655b02cd1
https://imgsafe.org/image/966f6da86c

Once again I assert: only fraudsters conduct their business this way.

Today, many companies are starting to wag their tails and do everything not to fulfill the conditions. The project may be genuine, but the team may be foul.

I think you need to communicate with their team, I think they are already have their company in real estate and property,the only issue is that they are still new in crypto industry like many others.

oh my god, even though I often receive emails from Dominium and just last afternoon I made a claim from their program.
even though I think dominium is a pretty good ico project

I think the best boards to post this kind of information are the Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) Board and the Investigations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0) ChildBoard ( incase you are not yet sure whether it's scam or don't have enough evidence to pin the culprit)
There you can call upon the bounty manager or manager of the project to head over the thread and answer any accusations made against their project. Failure to do so would mean that it's scam and get the culprits accounts red tagged.

Hey, that was scam mail from scammers not from Dominum team. We announce it in our official telegram group and announcement channel

I'll stay away from this 'company', I can't call it's a scam because I don't have other proof, But they scam my bounty rewards, I've join their first bounty campaign and earn more than 1K tokens, create an account and rewards is stay in my account, after that they block my account and told me my account don't have any activity in two week and haven't complete Clearance Level 1, send support ticket in October and fix the issue in November 16th, important is my bounty rewards is already gone and just have the 25 welcome tokens, asking again their support but never reply my mails, what is that ... scam my bounty reward

You can verify more on this project thru researching online for this project. And if it has a available crypto review, best advice is to read it. And if possible, maybe you can talk to the team of dominium or even the team leader. To know about the project.

This is the most likely option!

Read the whole thread please.

Thank you. I think I'll do it!

Here is another confirmation of dishonest business by the Dominium team! This case once again confirms that the Dominium team by any means deviates from fulfilling its obligations to pay the bounty >:(
Thank you for the information.

now many fraud projects don't provide detailed information about them, but if for bounty or airdrop reasons they still can't judge fraud projects, if You have a problem with a dominium project that is related to aerdrop or bounty program,  you ask BM and team

Scam or not , it is a hard time for ICOs even the good ones , What do you expect when the price of Eth felt down to 80$ and they have set their hardcap when Eth was much higher , I don't know it is scam or not , I just try to not participate in any ICO till the market recover .

Do you think you did the right thing and today you laugh at us? Tell me what will happen with the money invested and whether you have a direct relationship to the project? Maybe you just write messages?

i know how it looks right now but i think taht tjere are amny other factors that show us that this cryptocurrency is not a scam at all

Markperop wrote earlier:

I completely agree with his opinion.

Good point my friend. i am here as their bounty and telegram manager. Our linkedin profiles are open for everyone. I am trying to give answers to him. But he thinks we are scam cuz we decrased his rewards.

Most projects like that are a scam, I would even go as far and say most of the ICOs today are scams or will simply not make it. An ICO has to have a very good use case to attract investors these days

I repeat once again for those who have not read the entire thread:

The project may be genuine, but the team may be foul.

I do not think that fraud is just that they have difficulties, like most projects right now. Only the rebranding is not clear ...

You didn’t reduce, but simply stole, you took away my reward using a made-up excuse.

in my opinion you jeed to unerstamd taht sometimes it is necessary to find the undoubtful facts taht would tell you it is a scam

tjis cryptocurrency will be a good one i hope of its owners will do right things to it and there will be a lot of good products

No difficulties can justify dishonest business, dirty methods. Is not it?

It is impossible to create a good product by bad methods and at the same time having a damaged reputation. It's my opinion.

In fact, Dominium is a great project with the real people standing behind.
They're just trying to save their project. I even think that less token with
a higher value is much more valuable than many token with a lower value.

I often hear bad reviews about this project and it seems to me that most likely this project is a scam

Your tilte says Dominum is a scam? So, you should change your tilte at first

No, i wont apologize from anyone. Team gave a deadline for Kyc. Your refferals didn’t pass Kyc until deadline. Thats why you lost your refferal tokens. That was a good way to eliminate fake refferals. If this actions make us scam, keep sayig scam!

Do you really not understand or pretend? I will not change anything until the Dominium stops using fraudulent actions in relation to its members. All your company needs to do in order to avoid a deepening conflict is to follow the simple steps I posted above.

Once again I urge you not to deceive! I have already published the above correspondence with your support. Carefully read it and stop misleading people! About any mandatory KYC passing for the accrual of coins was not written in the old rules. Your support is writing about the introduction of NEW REQUIREMENTS.

Read this! Especially for you post a link to the correspondence: https://imgsafe.org/image/af616749e9


Do you know when I received the letter with the announcement of the changes? November 22! It was a letter in which you warn about changes in your rules! There were no warnings for 3 months, as you are trying to fool around here.

https://imgsafe.org/image/c4cd1bceaf

These are scanned letter from your team. letter date is November 22. And you are introducing new requirements from November 26!
All my referrals came in October. That is, long before you entered the new requirements (from November 26)
What 3 months are you writing here? 4 days you gave the deadline! You're just swindling here!

Comment, I'm waiting.

There is no necessity to make a deep analysis. For me it takes 5 minutes to determine scam. So Dominium is a scam in my opinion with disgusting design.
I am totally sure that there is no working product and your research just made me more sure in that

Do not want to apologize - lose your reputation and trust.
And more than that. Project team members will also lose their reputation and will write about them what they were involved in dubious projects.
You decide!

At first, it seemed to me that this was a solid project and a professional team. But I was wrong obviously.

No we announced KYC obligations 2-3 months ago. But probably muted group and didn’t follow any announcement

Your problem is that I give the facts (scans) as evidence of my rightness, and you can give me nothing except your words! 
You cannot confirm what you are writing about. Therefore, you are ordinary fraudsters. Point! >:(

Hi everyone,

I am Yacine the French Ambassador at Dominium. I would like to share my thoughts with you on recent actions taken by management concerning Bounty and referral program.
I would like to start by saying that we made a miscalculation by launching such a large bounty program ( a bit too enthusiastic in my opinion) this was based on reaching an amount of funding between the initial soft cap and large cap 2.5 to 92.5 million Euros. Unfortunatly since then market conditions worsened a lot and we only raised around 650K Euros. Furthermore, we realised that some users were taking advantage of the system by using mutilipe accounts. Therefore we (management) had to cap bounty campaign rewards to save the company. It is better have 10 tokens worth 1 euro than 100 tokens worth 10 cent ( for example) for all of us.
 
Moving on to the referral program, I clearly disagreed with my boss on this decision but he explained to me why it was taken and I start to understand it although it cost me a lot of effort to get those referrals ( I did it through a blog in an honest way) and I lost 3000 DOM tokens.

The problem was that people were creating many accounts to get 25 tokens each time without even verifying E-mail or completing KYC ( so who tells the company these people are real) and if you do it 10 times by a 100 people it starts diluting the token value a lot.

We (the management)  decided to introduce the rule that you needed to complete KYC and create an Ardor wallet in order to activate your tokens.
Of course this should have been mentioned at the beginning and not two weeks beforehand I apologise on behalf of the team on this.

I wanted to add a picture as a proof that I received 25 tokens for 3 out of the 130 referrals ( that created an Ardor wallet and obtained KYC) but my rank does not allow me as this is my first post on this forum.

Once again I apologise on behalf of the team but we needed to take some drastic actions in order to save our company and not make it a scam as some of you might think ! I also understand that we lost trust of some people in our community and we will do our best to regain this trust in the long term.

Feel free to share any further thoughts,
Kind regards,
Yacine

That highlighted text should not have come from you that happen to be member of the project. Dominium have always portray themselves as a big entity with a lot of staff that are professional in their area of expertise and if this is so then what do you mean you made miscalculation. Did somebody covered your eyes when you are making the calculation?. One thing that is very clear is that you deliberately allocated that amount for bounty so that you can attract large crowd of hunters knowing very well that you wont keep with your promise. I am very confident that you will also do the same if you had raised enough money for the project. It is not a bad thing if you allocate Small amount you are very confident that you will be able to pay hunters, there are many bounty campaign that do that and they always limit the numbers of participants so that hunters earn substantial amount of money. This would have safe the company from this problem. If you are having this issue with bounty hunters, How will investors trust you with their money?

To get back to you on your latest post,

I am not just a member of the team. I am the French ambassador and I am valued within the team for my effort.

Concerning the miscalculation, like any other business that has to make forward looking statements(calculations), we made this calculation based on our soft/ hard cap (2.5 to 92.5 million) which was based on current market conditions at that time as mentioned in my previous post. We did not anticipate the crypto market to incur such huge losses!
Every business decision can be criticised and you are free to do so by sharing your thoughts/ beliefs.

Kind regards,
Yacine

I have already seen such stories that people are trying to somehow counteract the truth, but such situations simply will not work, especially when the community really believes that you made a scam project. This is so and there is nothing to be done.

Dear Dicaprio, 

Let me phrase it in a different way. The bounty program was originally worth 5 million Euros. We raised 650 K euros up to now. It would be a huge scam if we distributed 5 million euros worth of tokens for bounty related activities when our company isn’t worth that much.
If we distributed 5 million euros of tokens they would be  “scam tokens” as their value is more than the value of the company.

I know that the changes implemented by management are difficult to accept but they took a decision and the truth is that the program has been closed and capped for the good of the company. I am telling you the truth and not expressing my thoughts.

Furthermore, you are talking on behalf of the community but our community isn’t only made out of yourself and bounty hunters. Of course we value your feedback and we are sorry that you are not as happy as expected with the results of your work.

To conclude, our platform has already been financed by the founders of the company ( proves they committed capital and believe in this project). The money raised at the end of the ITO will be used to purchase real estate.
As you say there is nothing that can be done to change your opinion so once again sorry for the changes but they were needed to preserve the value for the community ( bounty hunters, employees, investors etc..)

Kind regards,
Yacine

Dominium may not be a scam, but a scammer bounty manager. It is not very honest to take most of the payout share. The bountists participated in this bounty for a long time, in several of its rounds, and with them so meanly did ...

How did you decide that i am not fair payout. I didn’t finish calculations, spreadsheet already locked etc. Some guys told that i am scammer cuz i disqualified a group who is trying to get %50 of bounty pool with multiple accounts. If i accept them you will get ridiculous rewards trust me. Do not forget that i can not make everyone happy. If everyone is happy, thats shows i am not doing a fair job. If you think i am not fair and  you got wrong stakes for any week of any campaign, please let me know.

Some ICOs are just good in making their hidden agenda undetected especially when this ICO will turn out to be a scam. Some SCAM ICOs are noticeable since the start or in the middle of the crowdsale while others remains undetected even until its tokens are already listed in the market.

But with regards to your observation about the change of rules and bounty pool, it is always their right to do so anytime they want during the campaign especially when the crowdfunding doesn't looks good or it is too overwhelming. I participated in campaign before that its bounty pool were reduced as it only hits the soft cap. I have also participated in campaign before that its bounty pools were increased and almost doubled when it hits the hard cap.

Finally we found here some Logical comment. Thanks  for reality my friend.

In my opinion, Dominium has the potential to become a profitable future investment, but I don't really understand how scam charges for dominions occur, hopefully it's not a scam, because I invest a little on their projects, and in my opinion Dominium will become one of the top 50 altcoins coinmarketcap, but all ratings depend on individuals and this thread will continue to be monitored as dominium information

Wow, thanks for such a detailed answer. Now, after you told me the whole situation, I think that you are right intact, but here you need to make sure that you collected exactly this amount, for that it would be wonderful just to show us the address that funds were sent to.

Dear Vivelafrance.
I do not have a claim personally to you. But let's be honest. Dominium company solves its problems at the expense of its members. Is it fair? I attracted my referrals not for free, but for reward. Yes, I paid these people money. Real money, not tokens! I received nothing from you, except for promises that were not fulfilled. I have already lost my real money. It turns out that you are ready to do the same with your investors. I do not see much difference. Now the question is: why should I lose my money and time to save your company? As you can see the question is very simple. Please answer what should the Dominium company do to correct the situation and not lose its face? And how can I get my money back?

From what I see, I don't think they are a scam perse, only that they changed the rules overnight, without any kind of consultation, although many bounties have that kind of disclaimer before one participates, it's still pretty scummy on their part, thus affecting their helpers.

demirtasilker57
You are a bounty manager. This is true? Then you should personally be responsible for the mistakes made in the bounty program! Are you ready to return the money I spent to attract referrals? Just answer my question.

This thread should be in this section below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

I hope they can provide closure on this issue and shed light whether Dominion is a scam or not.

rules may change if the team wants to do it.
It is on their side to do that and there is no law on their project to prevent that.
I understand the feeling of the poster, but this is not a scam as long as the team is doing their ICO and continuing the project.
We need to have more time to wait until we can prove it.

The project may be genuine, but the team may be foul!
It is impossible to create a good product by bad methods and at the same time having a damaged reputation. It's my opinion.

But I think their actions are fraudulent. Since I spent my money to attract referrals. Suppose you are an investor and have invested your money in their project. A month later you are told: sorry, but we did not take into account the movement of the market, so we will not pay you anything. I do not see the difference, since in both cases you were treated unfairly.

I do not mind if the topic will be transferred to that section.

Agree with you!

Very accurate and fair remark!

I agree with you. Moreover, they acted dishonestly. Bounty hunters help attract investors and investment to the project. As a result, we were simply robbed instead of gratitude!

You are easy to catch in a lie! A respected Yacine (Vivelafrance) writes:

I believe that you (demirtasilker57) personally should be responsible for the fact that bounty hunters have lost their rewards! You keep trying to fool us and you really are a real swindler.

Sadly, even good-looking projects start to behave suspiciously. It is even sadder when these suspicious things pop up at the end of a successful fundraising. ICO can be saved only by regulation.

Dear Dicaprio,
I am guessing that you do not receive our newsletters? This information was made public and I am happy to forward the email to you if you share your email with me. We are controlled by an accountant and we will inform our community on the total amount of funds raised and we will record every transaction made with those funds.
Kind regards,
Yacine

Dear croco8,

Thank you for sharing your feedback with us. Can you please explain to me what you mean by you spent your money to attract referrals? How many referrals did you lose because they did not create an Ardor wallet/ Obtain KYC level 1 ? None of your referrals actually made an investment( making you earn commissions) to cover the costs you incurred?

I will share my personal experience with you. I created a blog and put my referral link there. I got around 130 referrals but only 3 of them passed KYC/ created an ardor wallet so I lost around 3000 DOM tokens which is annoying. Moving on to the nice part 4 of my referrals decided to invest and I got a total of 255 Euros in commissions. I was very happy that Dominium decided to increase minium commission percentage from 2.5% to 5% ( you do the maths) furthermore Dominium gives a bonus if you decide to exchange the commissions into tokens. As you understand by now I got 7 referrals in total (7*25 plus commissions).

So like you mentioned bounty hunters help attract investors, did none of your referrals decide to invest and make you earn commissions/ cover your fees?

Concerning the referral program where you could earn 25 tokens per referral since you are paying for this as you mentioned who tells us ( the company) you are not paying 10 people to create as many accounts as possible? Therefore we decided to introduce AML/ KYC as we registered a large number of fake accounts!
We apologise for not mentioning this at the very start!

To conclude, our Bounty manager is not a scammer his job is to check the forms you send and reward stakes. Ilker goes further by giving bounty hunters chance to submit late and talk to him when you need help. Ilker was not part of the company at the beginning of the bounty program and he has nothing to do with the allocation of a too large pool of tokens to bounty hunters in the first place.

If you want to get back to me please state some facts and numbers and not opinions and thoughts.

Kind regards,
Yacine

Dear Yacine.

I answer your first question. I lost the money I paid my referrals in order for them to come to the Dominium project. I will not disclose the amounts that my referrals received. I didn’t require my referrals to pass KYC because Dominium didn’t have such a requirement. After I had 67 referrals and by 1675DOM on my account your company decided that it was very expensive to pay that kind of money and decided to save by inventing new requirements for referrals.

I am not very interested in your experience (sorry), but I thank you for telling me about it.

Yes, I mentioned that bounty hunters help draw attention to the project by creating an image of a large number of participants and informational support. It is not at all obvious that referrals should participate in investments, although this is welcome.

Thank you for explaining to me how I could earn. But I'm currently interested in only one question related to your company: is your company ready to return my honestly earned 1675DOM? I don’t even remind you of the moral damage caused by your company to me in connection with unpleasant analyzes of this situation.

As for your employee named Ilker. He is either incompetent in the matter that concerns the introduction of new rules for the payment of bounty, or is a pathological liar.

All the facts I gave in the scans that are published in this thread. Search above in my posts.
Personally, you give the impression of an honest and decent person. Nevertheless, I consider the actions of the company unworthy. Once again I can repeat: dishonest actions cannot create a good product.

Sincerely.
Aleksei.

I don't think they are scam, I have worked with them for the last 6 months and everything so far is fine. There are three groups in Telegram, and managers respond normally within an hour.

I saw Dominium from the beginning until now is fine, and ICO income has so far accumulated with a large amount. but after reading the evidence above I was a little hesitant, if Telegram Official and the team had problems. the signs are that Dominium is indeed a project scamer.

No, of course, I do not use a subscription, because I appreciate what comes to me in the mail, please do not take it as an insult, but in general the situation has become clear and I have enough of it, but the community is dissatisfied, I think that it is necessary to look for compromises.

To get information from the core team you have to pay? Never before, I think dominium is a good project, about changing regulations maybe because of a number of things, and we have to respect the rules they make, and about the problems that occur to you, you should try to communicate with the core team

Yes, you understood correctly. To get support from Dominium, you have to pay. In this way, a unique situation turns out - Dominium creates a problem for you and you have a natural desire to contact support. And here you will learn that you have to pay for your appeal in support) You pay the Dominium for the problems that he creates for you! I think it's brilliant!))

I have come to this thread and into in telegram.
i can tell that dominium can be scam and cant be.
there will be 2 sides of the story, they made changes! and we dont know if this will be legit or will be gone!

Hahahahh if Dominium is real lets blame Bounty Manager :)) Okey good choice now. Its better than blaming all project.

Now, please tell me if you got wrong stake and check my bounty group. You will understand that i am already help my bounty hunters there. Blaming anyone is simple, hardpart is accepting his success.

Also, if you think i am bad manager, please dont join my new and upcoming bounties. If you join, i will disqualified you.
I won't resepct anyone who blame me or my projects. You should understand that projects paying bounty rewards to get your supports. If you blame them for less rewards than you expected, do not join any bounty or refferal campaign etc. Because when you check bounty general rules, you will see that campaigns can change rules whenever they want.

Now, i have to finish 3 bounty campaign calculations. Be respectful and do not waste my time anymore.

I express sincere compassion to those to whom you are now counting bounty. And I advise these people not to lose sight of their pockets and not to let purses out of their hands.
I'm already tired of you personally and your scam company. Let the people decide for themselves whether to have any business with you in the future. And I will bypass your company as soon as I hear the name Dominium.

Okey no problem. But you will see that project will continue and reach a good success in future.  When you see us in Binance, you will say that, oh fuck they are not scam :) Have a great day my friend.

To talk about the fraud of a project is quite difficult, because it is the users themselves can not prove or find out, without any internal information that was provided to you by the employees of a project it was fraudulent or not.

You understand that at the moment most of the projects can be safely attributed to the fraudulent section, because they do not have a working product for more than 3-5 months after the end of the ICO.

You need to communicate with managers and with the project team, maybe they will help you somehow. Personally I too faced such problem, it is necessary to treat it more quietly. But if you invested in this project...

Not so long, believe me. Soon everything will improve again. Today, people are already trying very seriously to influence some events, because very soon there will be testing exchanges that will test the strength and integrity of January 3, 2019.

Now stumble on a fraudulent project-we must try. Personally, I have not encountered them for a long time, apparently the sphere has become very unprofitable, even for scammers, since they left here.