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Hey guys. As the title suggests, i've a question to the presale Investors.

Do you invest in Presales?

What do you research first in order to invest?

What makes the project interesting and worth investing?

I ask all the investors, what makes a coin Perfect!?!

A working platform?

Active devs?

or do you guys see something else too?

Please let me know, i'm really keen to know such stuff before becoming an investor myself. Thanks. :)

Most times, when investors buy the pre sale of a project, it's like taking more risks, not minding what might happen later.
As a presale investor, the major information I lookout for, is first the team and the originality in the project.
Most times, there might not be any MVP, but before I can have an iota of believe in what they have to offer, I must be able to find someone in the team, whom I can trust. If not, i will not invest.

Not when am yet to be convince about the project.
Normally i research into the team first, to know if they are fake team or real team behind the project.
Good question!, before my interest will be go for a project for investment, the project must have a clear and error free whitepaper, must have a clear RoadMap, must have a good product behind the project, then it worth investing into.
In my view a coin will look perfect if the product behind it is useful.
Before invest ensure to double check the platform for activeness on the part of the team.
Yes there must be active developers
In my opinion, NO.
Please let me know, i'm really keen to know such stuff before becoming an investor myself. Thanks. :)
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I think there is only one factor. That is the community. If the community of a project is good, it will definitely have a chance to partner with Binance or other major exchanges and other partners.
A large community will also help a bad project to be great in the future. ;)

The main thing to see is the clarity of the program or project as well as the team as well, and the purpose of the platform that you want to build,
so that investors can trust and want to invest in the project.

anything that doesn't have a history which i can analyze is not a good investment in my opinion because the risks of it is extremely high. and in this market it is easy to create worthless crap and sell it to people as "gold" while dumping on them and pulling an exit scam. not to mention that it takes a lot longer to truly analyze things like that compared to an altcoin that has months of history and a good chart that you can analyze.
presales, ICOs, STOs, IEOs,... and all that crap are the same.

I think one of the main things you should research before investing is look at the project team to find out whether the team is reliable, trustworthy and reputed. Second you should see whether the project is unique or not. The market has many projects similar with each other. If a project is unique and it has potentiality to progress over time, it will grow. Basically these two things are most important ones before investing. I would invest in presale, if the project is investment worthy. 

I was investing but for some time i am not investing anything.

Because, it seems projects has successful ico's, not having great time on the exchange. Even they seem amazing on the paper.

First of all the only time is that i recommend investing in a coin is in presale because that is when the devs and all the people jump in but as soon as the coin hits the exchange it te,ds to go down by a lot and you don't wanna be late for the party when everybody is leaving, the way i pick which coin to invest in is i look around read its whitepapers and look at their road map and join their telegram group if they do have one and i start talking to their owners to kind know if they are serious about it or they just doing it for quick grab, and see what people on the internet think about, like if their ideas are original and good or is it just a false promise, you need to look for community base because that is what makes these projects successful before you invest your money in them.

Pre sales are the most risky form of investment innexistence because you are not sure what you are delving into
People can claim they will research this or that first; but it doesn’t work that way

It takes time to complete a project sync verification which is why it’s best to wait to ico stage for participation

Presales are best times for investing wisely in my opinion.
Projects can explain their idea in simple or light whitepaper so we can understand it without fancy words.
Active devs are also important for development.

I prefer sto's but for ico i am looking for deflation system.

Like % of some transactions are continuously burning. Also, a product that makes sense.

Yes, it is better than investing in a void. ICO and pull. Although the coins successfully sold. And investors no longer understand what is happening with the project. The administration is just responding soon.

The most important thing when I choose to invest in a project is the development team and the applicability of the project after successful capital mobilization. This is the most fundamental principle for a successful and far-reaching project in the future, leaving other issues we can slowly study.

A working platform, active devs are important in making a cryptocurrency good. I don't think good investors have differences when it comes to choosing the right coin. If there's any difference, I don't think that it is really significant. There are a lot of threads in here that could help you on what coins you should consider buying. Things like budget should be considered as well.

It seems to me that it is very important for investors to choose a suitable project. And in order to do this you need to very carefully believe it. And to check you need to be able to do it.

I am not a presale investor, but in my opinion to be a presale investor you must be very careful in looking for a good project because now many scammers are acting on behalf of a new project and eventually just becoming trash

As a presale investor, it is required to check the project itself before investing a single penny to their contract address. Scam projects never stop their activity and the count of victims will increase every day.

I prefer to invest in Presale stages to leverage the big discount for investor. It's a big chance to get more token or coin than when you invest in public sale stage.
Also in Presale stages  if you invest with large amount you can deal a special price with team.

There are so many scammers on the market now that it’s better to support old work projects. And new projects that will raise money even in such a market will get on my list later. Let them fight for profit until the last scam. It is necessary to invest on the fact of work performed.

of course we all become investors, investors who mean the community to publish to everyone in the form of a bounty program, I have never bought through presale or ico, but I expect a lot of ICO with polatfrom being built, especially in blockchain ethereum

Before... yes but right now I focused on trading rather than investing to pre sales since I can have income here immediately rather than waiting for the project to be on exchange and have a pump.

The projects itself, there 3 things I search first (But actually they're a lot but this is the first 3 important things):
1. The Existing problem they're going to solve.
2. The solution they proposed using the blockchain technology or the likes
3. Look if there are some existing project that has the same solution as them if yes... then I might doubt at it the project should be unique in terms of solution

Uniqueness of their approaches to the existing problems using blockchain technology and the likes.

There's no such thing as perfect coin all of the coins has their own advantages and disadvantages, but a good coin is when the developers develop their weaknesses and get better and better from time to time.

A working platform is great too since we can use the coin in there and you know that the coin is not useless and have a use.
A developer also should have enough experience too, a great team has a higher chance of great projects... but there are some developers that has an experience but has a failed projects it's important for the team to give an updates about the development and status of the project and they should continue to develop the project more better and better.

Its depend on what kind of project will you choose to invest in pre sales before investing your fund you need to check every details of the project because researching can give you hint if the project is legit or not if its for long term or short term run.
I'm not a investor but this part is important to avoid losing your fund because the marketare fullof scammer.

It is an option for investors, there are investors who try to invest from the beginning and there are also investors who enter a type of investment in the ongoing period. For me it is a choice that every investor does, investors must have a strategy and they see the capabilities they have. Some are smart to read from the beginning and some are trying to be careful to gain momentum both in the midst of investment.

Investing in presales is a risky business and requires a lot of leg work. There is a lot you have to check because most presales do not have a working product yet. What they are selling is an idea, which they can or can't complete. Personally, I have to check the whitepaper and the roadmap first if they are feasible. Then the background of the individuals involved in the project. You also have to watch out for scam accusations about the project.

I don't invest in presales but most of the investors today are looking at the developers team.

If someone has been part of shady deed before, it's already a red flag.

Personally, I never make my homework before investing in small amounts. For big bucks, the situation is a bit different and expectations can be made depending on the case. Investing is a tough job and making decisions based on other's experiencer is dangerous.

knowing the fact that we are going to take a huge risk in presale investing, I can say, still it is the most profitable investment you can enter. I would suggest that you should not just be careful on looking for a project, but to ask your colleagues and co investors about their experience. You cannot be safe on investment, but you can reduce the risk to make things possible.

Too much of questions but my suggestion will be just avoid new crypto projects now since lot of projects were released by exchanges which get successful also bht we can't sure they will get their project into successful so better wait or invest on cryotos.

You might have some time to see and enter community group chats and tackle issues there if any, I suggest choosing the project with most active community as the chance that members there initially conducted their personal research regarding the project and its internal.

Of course its a lot of risk, thats what I want to know, how you guys separate the gem from the trash.
I'll look out for team ok, but what do you mean by the originality in the project? :)

Also, would you mind explaining MVP and IOTA too? Many thanks! :D

I ussually only invest on old coins and on bitcoin, i not like to invest on something new because i'm a bit afraid that project will fail and if i can't get more info i don't invest on.

Its not only about a active teams ,there must be a working product available for the project ,its really what makes a good can't go wrong projects

I also, like many, watch and evaluate the project team. Then I study the elaboration of the project - a roadmap, how the project plans to do with the money collected, and the implementation itself.

Such questions are good for parse a living example. A lot depends on the time, during the bull market I have enough information about the team and the project idea, but in the bear market the project should show itself perfectly, so I invested in it.

I never join in presale because the minimun required amount sometimes too high for me, i just join in main sale

What do you research first in order to invest? For me the first is team,

What makes a coin Perfect!?! the team again, after that is concept, website, whitepaper, also is ads

Of all the questions I concluded that this is the obligation of every investor to analyze the point of view of the Crypto space that is difficult to interpret. There are many interesting things that I see and still haven't found the answer, in my opinion everyone has a different view so that it can be interpreted that we prefer strong opinions or speculations to act. Most of us just follow trends and ignore other important things.

as an investor in general, i will say before you take any risk, the most important thing to do is to research into the project and the team behind it very well. being a pre-sale investor is very risky because anything can happen, sometimes you can wait and buy from dumpers and or better still read, analyse and research into the project if the project has any product dealing with and with this, you are through.

I did invested in presales before, for a while I haven't because I haven't found one that really interests me at all. I do research in my own ways, its just mathematically in some aspect, I check their roadmap and what they are trying to achieve, if it is really a problem I have too than I move to the team and I check each of them and what they have managed to build so far and than I check the community and the size, if it passes from all three than I invest.

Usually all coins that worth something try to solve a problem, if its solution that it worth something, if its not than I don't even look at it. The perfect coin is the one that has amazing team behind it that is known to previously be part of amazing coins and built something before, that is solving a problem we all have and definitely has a huge community behind it.

I agree, community plays an important role too -- but how to attract one?

Say a project is really good, but got the bad guys in the community, what then? Coin will be dead?

You are in the wrong place. 95% comments here are from signature spammers. I don't think you will get an appropriate answer which will satisfy because they are posting just because they have to post. Try reading only amswers without a signature code.

I was initially looking for solution more over i was looking for Hype created around the project which is the major fact of coins listing and quick profit . Now it is gone no more successful project . Now some of the success formula is the presale announced by exchanges having atleast less loss ratio.

Its only partially true, most people have given legit answers. :D

But there sure are some spammers, btw, is that a signature I see below your post? ;)

In my opinion, the first thing that is examined first before investing is the white paper of a project and their professional team. and a project has a clear concept. well if it's good then we can only invest.

Before I make any investment, I first investigate the team members of the project. I'm investigating the success of previous projects where team members work. I'm reading Whitepaper. And I compare that project with similar projects on the market and try to determine the maximum value that it can reach. If I like every feature then i joining the presale. It's a little risky to join the Presale. That's why we have to do some good research before join. But if you join the presale of the right project, then you can make a very good profit.

Honestly, there is no such thing as a perfect project, I have seen projects that look very good but still cannot manage to reach even their soft cap, if you want to find a good ICO check their whitepaper and see if it is really relevant and not copy paste from old projects, the people behind it is also very important, they should be real people with real expertise, scammers are doing photoshopped of their team, sometimes stealing other people's identity.

I agree with you that team members can be used as an indicator in determining whether the project has a prospect or not.
This is based on how the success and track record of members on projects that have previously been handled.

unfortunately sometimes some projects also use fake teams that they edit themselves and put on their team list. without us doing more thorough research we will not get the truth information. stay alert and careful.

There are some factors that you must know before investing in pre sale. Community is one. There are some projects that have already a large community before conducting a presale. Technology is the second. How the coin will affect our lives. There are some more.

I don't usually invest in presales because most of the ICO's right now are becoming a scam already. If I invest in cryptocurrency, I choose the coins that is trusted like the top 50 coins in coinmarketcap. Those coins are good to invest because they are not a scam coin. Most of the time, I put most of my money into Bitcoin for the long run.

It is a fact that public and semi public presales are wasting of a time and money. You get a long  vesting period and not best price to hold a token/coin

I have been here so long but honestly i didnt participate in any token sale happened before but i have advice to you since i have been part of that history i know some keys to know if the project is great or bad. Just one reason, review the product if it worthy enough tl get demand last the team/and its partnered companies. Just only prove their existence and verified if the partnership was real

that's true, even now I prefer to buy after open trading on the market because most prices will go down, and we can get the best price to buy coins or tokens. because buying at ICO cannot be a measure we will benefit. because the real price is when registered at an exchange.

Yeah, I'm happy that the project I'm promoting has gotten impression. People posting in altcoin sections barely participate in a real discussion. They only talk some shits to fulfill their weekly requirements, although back in previous, it was a great place to have some good discussion.
Anyway, I request you to report the post once you get it spam.

Investors are always at greater risk this problem is seen more from the old than the new ones. almost new investor do not know good expensive about invest, So they are always more damaged. Old investors tend to expart more about this so they are less poorly equipped.

Very well said.  Investor every day at risk of losing their money.  But some remain afloat and develop and some lose everything.  It all depends on how careful you are and how much your experience is.

old and new investors I think have the same question, because they certainly did not speculatively decide to invest in a particular project without doing research and questions from their new community. New investors will certainly ask a lot of questions before investing, it will minimize the risk of investing wrongly ...

Look like you are talking about ICO's investment since you have mentioned presale on the OP. So at first I will suggest to avoid ICO investment due avoid loss. And seems you are bit new on this ICO projects. You have to research yourself before take any decisions. A potential and well know team and a great concept could be bring success for ICO. So both thing you have to know very well if you are really very much interested to invest. But again I would like to suggest don't invest ICO's now. You can buy some potential existing coins which is not yet recovered. So you can expect some handsome profits on coming days.

Was it quite dangerous to consider investing on a project that doesn't have much reliability? I can say, those that are just trying to boom in the market in the first place without any experience? If that so, how do you try to take the risk regarding this matter? Because for me, I only invest on post sale I can say. Scared to have loss in the market.

There are couple of things that I personally look out for but the  one I usually depend on is the the roadmap of the project and the team behind it. For a project to be successful it mostly depends on the initiatives the team lay out. Just find out how important the project is to the team and you could go in for it or ignore it.

presale is indeed very risky because we still don't know how the future of the project is, there is absolutely no guarantee for the money we have spent, there is no clarity whether we will get profit or vice versa, but behind all that, presale can be a good means to get a profit because of that although there is no guarantee for investors but there are still many people who want to follow presale but keep in mind that we must be very careful in determining which presale we will follow and to determine which is best, we must judge from all aspects , not only from various aspects, but everything including what you say is an active developer and a functioning platform, both important

These days I analyze only IEO, so I just try to invest in all IEOs with good metrics and then it is about luck.
I am trying to multiply my investments on this trend and nothing more

There are rules I put on myself if whenever I see a project is worth investing, one is if it is unique and you will hardly find some so I never really invest on repeated projects. Another is the development team's country of Origin, I am not racist at all but I do care about who and where they came from. So I most likely want to trust American and Chinese teams over Russian, Africans, Thai and other countries. I am so picky, and we should be, it is our money at stake here, our future retirements and such. We better take precautions so you better be strict and wise.

I don't invest in presales, investing in presales in my opinion is very risky, because at this time there are so many projects that fail, and sometimes when the coins enter the market the prices don't match even much lower.

I invest in pre-sales. I research first their whitepaper, research their goal or roadmap. Do they use protocols that people or other services can benefits?
There are a lot of new projects conducting their own ICO without goals or plans. Team or developer also important, like if their project is open-source and you can see how the project developed if it is updated and you can see how they are committed to the project by updating the community of what is going on the project.

Very well. Say, everything is good, the whitepaper, team, the project and the usecase, all is good, but some community members are not good and FUDding, what then?

How do we decide?

There have been several questions regarding this same topic post. There is no perfect project anywhere. Investors just do their due diligence by researching on the project before they buy into it. Whether it does well or not will depend on the devs behind the project

Simply my investment process is like this I don't think more about the future and the past because if you think the future only there is no use in it taking a risk will be a chances of involving in it and take the outcome from the result so you need to be more with free mind set it will be the only way to get successful.

Most of the time things resulted to that, really hard to anticipate what market will bring you especially with this type of investment, people are very strict nowadays because of those past results of thier investment, each risk will be counterpart of success, knowing how to take it and handle it is very much important.

For all investors it is very important to know how worthy the project is and how beneficial it will be to invest, our right is to know about the work of the team and to study the white paper, do not involve any project with low information, invest the promising projects and stay at distance from bad and fud projects, try to ask about the previous performance of the team.

investing in presale is not good now because there is too much presale out there, and the failure of the ico project is huge because there are many reasons like, the market conditions are bad, investors are few, too many project ideas are the same

investment in presale is indeed very high risk because we don't know the results yet but in my opinion investors have their own views, for investors investing in presale, of course they are sure that the ICO project will provide big profit

And you have to have great courage for investment in pre-sale and many fail, but good investors will always check the adequacy of their benefits and goals going forward. so don't just buy

Yes, more bonus in presales.
The whitepaper of the project and the roadmap. If it does makes sense then I'll invest.
If its roadmap and whiteppaer makes sense.

Probably there is no coin that is perfect. It is entirely depends on what the team could give you. If the team is shit, so as the coin.

For me, the interest in investing lies primarily in the possible growth of the coin. The rise in the price of a coin, in turn, depends on the project itself and on the exchanges where they plan to place their coin.

No I don't do it often and after big failures like theranos people all over the world will be more careful.
I sometimes buy presales of existing products offered by known companies that are known to deliver. Ledger had a presale of their new wallet and if you bought that you got it for sure. With coins it's rare that the team delivers.

Investing in pre-sales could greatly increase your profit if you chose the right project because most of the times you will get some good bonuses sometimes even huge ones of 200-300% if you buy a few months before the sale goes on but the problem is not every project successfully make it until the end and sometimes you will get some coins that are worthless. So it's better to wait until the actual sell and see how things go from there

I perfer to invest in presale. Right now i don't even know what is better now. If IEO is better option to invest in than presales.  But if there's no much difference i think what we invest more in IEO

There are few things I research to decide either to invest or not, firstly the team and the idea of the project if it's real and valuable or fictitious , some project after ICO won't have any real time usage . secondly I read through the whitepaper to ascertain it's not repetition of another project and if it's repetition there should be and advancement

If I was an investor I think I will go for presales that have a very dynamic project plan with an active team that is always tying up major partnerships. The project advisors also constitute an important aspect before I make a decision on investing in presales

Am not in support of investing in pre sales because have done some last year and it was not a good business to me.

Pre-sales are best times for investing big amounts but for amounts bigger than 20 BTC taking a p2p investing model will be safe. Investors need to think about the project's future and what it can bring to the problems.

chances are that you were unlucky in choosing an ICO project to invest in pre-sale so you have an opinion like that
because I think investing in pre-sale will be very profitable and we can get bonuses or cash back
with a note in choosing the project must be really careful and not only analyze 1-2 projects but observe again as many projects as possible

Investors are people who take the risks and they enter the token sales if calculated risks are worth to potential rewards. Reliable projects don't need to make a KYC for cutting the token abusers IMHO.

Yes I do but it depends on the project being probable


The thing with crypto is that it isn't fool proof but I check for established sponsors/partnerships, any working products, a good track record of the developing team and many other checks....as projects differ from project to project

usually it's the potential monetary gain but I like to think am supporting the technology :)



Depending on the project these could be good indicators but finding the perfect coin win never happen because they all have flaws but the best option will always exist

Hope my answers were helpful and you are welcome!

I most of all pay attention to project developers. Looking for their profiles in social networks and studying whether they have already implemented projects. This speaks of their experience, and if they have already had successful projects, then it is worth investing in a new one.

The one that I look in a project whenever I am investing is the team behind it, and the use case of the coin if there is a use for it. If it is unique, not in the current market, I will invest in it. But if it is just an improvement of another project, I will not.

I believe that investors who invest during presales usually do that due to the bonuses provided during presales. Some even do just a little research  or don't not do any research before investing which is usually influenced by the discounts provided by the crypto project during the presale. In the crypto ecosystem, investing into project during presales usually due to the packages provided by the project doing the presale of their tokens.....

As an investor I'm not looking for the positive feedback because that is easy to manipulate, I am looking for the negative side on it such as scam accusation or those having a fake team. I personally do my own research to avoid possible problem near in the future. However, even how dip digging research you made if the projects are wanted from the start to exit scam we have nothing to do is just to knuckle our head.

as investors, they must be brave enough to face any risk and they must be able to handle it.
not all projects are reliable so we have to be careful when doing things, because anything if we are negligent can cause bad things to happen, so we have to be more vigilant.
yes, so if the project is reliable and good, there is no need to make KYC, even though many also make it.

If the devs are very active and well versed about what they do, it is interesting on how they will answer your question and thoughts that circulates to your mind.

Good strategy, positive feedback can be faked and reviews today can be paid. If you are an investor and you look for good reviews, you might end up with those paid reviews that's giving the best and encouraging feedbacks about that project.

Investing during presale offer at some point encourage more investors because of the higher discount at that level when compared to during the ICO proper. One of the things that  encourage invest including myself is the main reason behind the project and the future of the said coins.

Yes, I usually invest in presale, but now I better buy it when the token enters the market, the first thing we have to do when choosing a project, then we see what products they offer, whether the product is in accordance with the proposal they give, then we must see the developer and the team managing the project whether there are several teams that can make us doubt so we need to ignore the project if it is clearly not a good enough project.

When investing I am looking for the use case of the project, checking the team experience, advisers.
Looking at the WP and roadmap and following the  activities of the team on social media.

When the first time you want to invest look for the project whitepaper, look on the roadmap and what is the aim of the coin, find about the developers team and what is their experience and for me there is no perfect coin, each coin got their advantage and disadvantage based on different situation

When I want to start investing in a project, of course, I have to know about the ins and outs of the project, whether the team involved people who are professional in their field, the purpose of the project will be to provide future benefits, of course this is important and not until we make a wrong step in starting an investment

Suppose a team wants to list their coin on some big exchange like Topia or Hitbtc and such, but they didn't made enough btc in the presale, what then? Will you invest and help them out?

Hmm.. Say the projects usecase idea is really good like really really good, but the developer team is newbie and don't have much experience, its their first project with little no experience, but they're completely honest about everything and trustable -- would you still invest? :)

The percentage in failing is higher than having a successful investment in a project.
Successful means having a hard cap and it continues doing the roadmap as it was written.

Most of them reaches softcap and that is not enough for the project to go on even if they will try. Mostly it will go thru bankruptcy.
Better just invest with known coins if you are not a risk taker. Go for bitcoin or ethereum. I bet anyone here would agree.

But if you are really in for risk then go thru their management. See to it that they are really making efforts to market their project.
Features too. What is the coin for? If it is just for another platform that is already a copy of an old project, I mean there is something which is the same as it, then say goodbye to it.

I personally like Crypto Whales Pool. They got nice presale deals and all coins they chose were very profitable, at least for a while. I remember some coins were up to 7x in a few weeks.

- Depending on the project but those times are good on previous years only

-All necessary things thats involve to the project

-There no such perfect coin

-Working platform would be only possible if they do already collected those funds needed so thats why theres an ICO.

-Always seek and verify anything about transparency if you are really eager to invest.

Participation in pre-sale is a risk. The community helps to make a decision. The guys discuss and come to FAITH. It's always a very personal question. Turn on intuition. And if there is interest - play. After all, the exchange is a game.

I think im not a pre sale investors and i know there is a greater risk of investing during pre-sale. In fact, if you can correctly identify the project then for your investment then there is less risk for your investment in this sector.

I don't invest in pre-sales, I invest in projects when they finally get listed on exchanges because I'm sure the price will drop and get cheaper so I will grab that advantage to get more quantity

With big projects I study the popularity of the project, that it has many people interested. Then comes what the project has achieved before the token sale, the project's advisors, then the study of future project direction. That's what I did before investing in any ICO

I don't know why there are some people who don't invest in Presales but are still just posting "I don't invest in presales.." Why?!?

I wanna know the opinions of presale investors, its clear in my ANN -- why are you people spamming here?

I need genuine answers, please save your spam for somewhere else.

Let's do this. In the pre sale there is no one who wants to invest today just for the reason that there are too many fraudsters. Everyone is waiting for news. News. Movement on the project. Analysis. Check for fraud by any available means. Therefore, they do not invest in the first stage. There will be a guarantee that there will be an investment on pre sale. But cryptocurrency and guarantees are not compatible. Read chats. How many projects have closed on pre-sale. Yes, it is better to buy tokens after falling on the market. Than throwing thousands into it is not clear what. Where people even documents can not cook.

And why do you find yourself on the forum where people still work. Do not expect everyone to answer your question.

The reason why I personally do not invest. Scammers I am looking for other ways to get coins. A 30% bonus means nothing, the project drops in price 10-20-50 times after the first listing. Buy from hunters. Save a lot of money.

Private investors are big investors. They are different from investors in the public sale period, they have accepted that tokens are locked for several months to half a year. Because those are visionaries, not investment and instant profit after token is listed exchange

I especially love to invest when I see the market taking a growth trend.  Then it's even nice to look at the market when everything is green.  I think what the future cryptocurrency.

Marketing is important to introduce the project to investor. But the project itself is more important because investor must be looking on the prospect of the project. Green on market is because investor confident on the project or their investment

Since the presales offer better discounts or bonus, I do want to take part in presales if I am eligible for it. Before investing, I will surely do a full research which include reading the whitepaper, analysing the business model, joining the community chat and etc. IMO, the business model make the project interesting.

There is a truth, too, do not invest in pre-sales because you will lose after entering the exchange, so wait for an exchange to get big profits.

Deciding to invest in presale is quite risky, but we can also get quite satisfactory results when prices increase in the future. prices are unpredictable and many people consider investing early on gambling. we can't know what's going on and I agree with what you say that seeing a team on these projects can help us make decisions.

Personally i prefer such an interesting idea about the project. In nowadays, the unique one will win. It depends on how unique of the project, people usually invest on an unique one.

for the past 2 years I have only participated in 3 ICO times. and I won in two ico and the rest lost.
I can't buy ico because I lost a lot at the end of 2017, so now I'm starting to gather little by little.
about presale I am not so sure or understand how other people see these opportunities, or they just guess and invest it hoping it's a successful project. I follow ico always buy in the middle or at the end of the sale so I can see how much money is collected, although some ico don't tell the total raise fund they collect.

Investing during the pre sale stage is one of the most profitable things you can do on this market. If you like the project and are sure that it is going to give you a great profit, there in no better idea than to invest during the pre sale for great prices.

Well that is what I am asking, how to be sure? I very much like a few projects but i'm not sure!!

Ofc investing in presales is awesome, but we need to be assured else, we'll have to cope with heavy losses and that's what i'm not good at..

Of course not, After monitoring everything in the project, then i will invest but after the pre sales.
Firstly whitepaper, business partner, future exchanger target everything research i needs more time. It should be clear see dev activity and give their daily support.

in my opinion
all aspects you have to do, be it research to the team and developers. ideas and technology became a serious problem for an assessment of investment in ico.
You have to do more research and research before making a speculation, especially for now most are scams

Kind of interesting to see if there are such options available to see the research of a project.
I prefer to see the project which people wished to invest to that project, but even if i research, it just wasting my time you know.

First of all the idea need to be unique and the project team also need to have enough experience and reputation on blockchain feiled if people want to consider their project for investment.If they have good advertising strategy to bring more traffic then it will be enough to funds for them so people are going behind the projects where already people are investing.

learn to make your own research, I think that is important for your development in the future crypto market. you can't wait for the decision to choose people. moreover you only depend on the decisions of others. you can be used as bait for cheating.

before investing in it, i will study its team carefully. their experience is rich. Are they doing the actual thing? If they just want to hype, i will stay away from it.

Investors accumulate years of experience in finding successful ICO, do you think that the tips will help you choose a good project from the first time? I can say that at the presale stage, the project is worth attention if its team consists of people who participated in the development of other popular blockchain startups, and among investors there are well-known exchanges or investment funds. In addition, the project should solve the actual problem and have a clear development plan.

Investment is combined of risk and profit. The same way it has risk, the same way it has also chance of getting higher profit than investing in ICO because in pre sale you can get cheaper price. However, it is needed to check the project whether it has potential or not.

Most team just write whitepaper without having the right requirements to fullfil all that is written within. So in my own opinion, I think one of the things to consider is the capability of team in fulfilling what they promised. Also, have an active product matters too as it will attract many investors. The last but not the least is the community members, if they are supportive or not.

My views are clearly for that investors who are newly in this market they should be very carefully invest .one thing more they should have past any project & what is the performance now.get much more knowledge about project & market condition.I Think so.

therefore it is better to use our research than to depend on others because each person can always change their mind so that your fear will become bait

I would not recommend investing in any ICO now, even in the presale where you can get a massive discount.

In the past, presales were all the rage because ICOs would often hit hardcaps early and get listed quite soon.
And since trading volume was very high, coins shot up in price fast.
Presales were popular because you could do a quick flip for huge profits.

Unfortunately, that just isn't the case right now and it has nothing to do with quality of the ICO.
There just aren't the numbers to support that kind of investing and trading.

So if you are still intersted in investing in ICOs, the best thing to do is to wait.
Wait until the ico finishes and see how much demand there is for it.
Most likely, the price will end up being even cheaper than presale prices.

If the project is good, it will attract a stronger and good community, but if the project is good, it is absolutely impossible for it to attract more than 10% of bad guys, at least 90% of the community will be of a good one.

Most of the projects that usually attract bad community are the ones that presents their projects to the public through the point of investment alone, but a project that is able to convince people from that perspective of good product and services before talking of investment benefits will attract more of serious investors, that understand fully what investment is all about and not gambler community.

It is not a good thing to always gamble with our investment, whatever we are not comfortable with, its best to stay away from it completely, I too for once do not like pre-sale ICO so I stay away from it till it enters exchanges, because the faith of the project will be decided when it gets to exchange if it’s a project that will stay longer or get pumped and dump.

I don’t invest projects for short term, I like projects that I can invest in and when I look back at my investment in some years of time, I will smile. If I wanted a short term profit, I know how to trade and not profit from pumping and dumping. So, if our key interest in a project is for its product and services, its best we don’t go in through pre-sale.

Before I can consider investing in any project no matter how good the offer may look, I don’t look at the offer but most of the attributes you listed are very keen to me in investing, usually I don’t participate much in presale, I wait for such token to get to an exchange first after ICO to study and see their performance before investing.

In considering project to invest in, I have to also be convinced about their project team, I usually prefer those projects that do live stream when presenting, and through their presentation, I should be able to discern if the project is worth it or it’s another imaginary product that will not move the market forward, these I the things I strictly look into before investment is done.

Yes I am, investing in pre-sales in depending on their plans in the future they have to the token they are promoting or campaigning it.
Of course to see it first the usages of the token, is it realistic and attainable, or they have a capability to give the demand, and knows what their WP, and lastly know their assets too and background.

I see everyone needs a new idea these days.. Can you suggest a few? What does unique mean according to you? What if the dev team is new and not experienced?? What if they have great advertising but is a scam? This doesn't make any sense..

Most investors in ico are very risky and they will probably be empty. As you know, 2018 has a lot of fraud projects that lead to the loss of investor confidence in ico

No one knows is that coin perfect or not. What we can do is only research and using our feeling when we decide to invest. Invest on Pre-sale is good because give many bonus. But like others project, we should always careful and we should know the project is active and developers team looks solid

How do you know if the project team is trustworthy, reliable and have a good reputation？ because of the information on their linkdin which could possibly be manipulated and full of fake information？ or there is a way to know them physically and know their background history with past achievement(s)？ project could be unique still does not give any assurance that it's a good investment,
the above mentioned may seem like a guide to help make a good choice when making an investment, but still not enough because most project with exit scam or failed possess all the above yet nothing good came out of it, to me it's complicate and at the same time luck.

The answer is simple. Don't invest to them and leave them, search for the other project ;D
There are many projects out there waiting for your money, and with the right investigation about the project, I am sure that you can find one project that will give you a profit in the future.
The process of searching itself is not easy because you need to find out the information about them and you need to browse in many resources to know how good their project.

I invest in presales back then years ago, why? because bonus on presales is really big sometimes you can get bonus up to 50% which is really big. Of course i do some research and find many information about the project and the ICO before investing my money. The product and the team behind the project is the biggest reason for me.

be careful if you want to invest because now there are so many project scams. read carefully their road map and how to communicate with the dev party must also be good to always get the latest updates. do not forget to also list the market exchange which will be their goal to launch their tokens when ico ends.

In my mind, it's not good time to invest anyone ico because now the number of scam ico has increased. But if you want to invest now so first find out good projects. Spend more time if needed, then try to get hold of the project's collected information beforehand. All of this will help you with your investment plan.

A good ICO to invest has all these, before they do their ICO and market their product, they made sure that everything has been worked out, their coming platform, their support team, their whitepaper the team behind them are unquestionable and they can answer anything that is relevant to their project.

hi, i am not a typical investor who invest too much in ico, but i invested ones, the thing i always see to it is how useful the project is in the long run, but i feel sorry because i see that therr is a potential to the project it has lack of community support and until now it is dump, so i lose some of my investments.

Before investing in any project you should take care of some key points:
- experience of the team in similar projects
- Whitepaper
- social media activity
- references on other websites/forums
Etc.

That is what we must do before investing but unfortunately, many of us don't listen to that and make a wrong decision. Many of them directly send some amount of bitcoin or ethereum to the project so they are not late to join as the investor. But after the project running for a few weeks, they found out that the project is not good enough to give them the profit.

Investors tend to easily to be cheated by news, and they mostly not follow the classic statement of Warren Buffet, "Buy the rumors, sell the news". In fact, most of investors do their trading orders or investment decisions in opposite ways, buying the news, and selling the rumours, that mostly cause losses later.

In my opinion, I only invest in one currency when I see the information about that project clearly. Specifically, the long-term development strategy, the purpose of that currency with the community and development applications Its current time to buy presale coins with investors I think is very difficult and dangerous because projects are really insecure when scamming happens a lot.

I agree at this point, on the transparencey of project. Projects that transparently present information about their team, their plans, their plan to use premined coins (for ex), are always better than projects that wanted to hide them as much as possible.
For presale coins, or tokens, I don't have much interests with them all. I usually find chances to invest in old projects because at least I can trust them, and know that they won't abandon projects that they have developed for years.

Depends on the ICO structure actually. Presale has its advantage since the price here is quite cheap compared to main sale stage. But one thing is for sure, most of this have vesting period and this is the worst part. Since you cannot sell all of youre holdings when the right time comes. Lucky if the price wont dump any time. But with the bear market probably can.

Team and working product is important as well. Might suggest to invest on projects that has a legit and working platform if not, then the investment could be nothing. Pay for services not tokens!

Well, investing only in one coin is also not entirely clever. If it is not a bitcoin. but you significantly reduce the opportunity to earn a lot of money

Surely it is not. Either there are HIGH profits -- or HEAVY losses.. but presales are the best time to invest, aren't they? We just need to examine the project carefully, thats what this thread actually is for. :)

It is better to be out of the market and not to join the ico , now it is very difficult in the market with investments in this sector , a lot of scams now and it is better to save money

Very many factors are responsible for the effectiveness of the popularization and economic stability of the coin. The most important thing is the work of developers on their project. A very important influence on the stability of the coins have a financial infusion of cash. And the most important thing is community support. Since the community is an important part of the popularization for cryptocurrency.

I used to invest in presales, but not now. Most often it is more profitable to buy a coin when it enters the exchange. If you like the project, you can support it on pre-sale.

I Love to invest in pre-sale more than investing in public sale,  because you have more chances of making profit when you invest in pre-sale, I have invested in the public sale of over 3 icos presently and the turnout was nothing to write home about because I didn't even make the capital I used in investing on the project,  I have given up on ICO already and I don't think anything can ever change my mind about investing in ICO anymore.

It is greed and lack of research that is doing many of the investors practicing this, they don’t listen and after they scammed, they come here to broadcast the failure discouraging others interest from investing in ICO when they simply didn’t follow the rule.

Most of these ICO projects promises what they know they cannot fulfill, when I see an ICO too fool of big promised, I don’t try to join them because any project built on lies will definitely fail on lies.
We have to be very watchful before taking that decision to trust any project with the money we have worked hard for, I believe not many people do invest what they can afford to lose.

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The idea and the vision behind the project makes me to  invest in it. Crypto is a speculative market, and if we
can imagine what benefit will the specific product bring to the market it could help us to make a successful investment decision.

-Presale is where you can actually get a lot of bonus. This is where most whales invest.

-Read thru the whitepaper and see if what they are aiming is possible/probable, will they meet their timeline and goals, etc.

-when it is unique, innovative and aims for a solution.

-There's no such perfect coin. Each has different preferences.

-Of course.

-Devs keep investors interested in a project. That is why they should be active.

Active developer and a working platform would absolutely determine if the quality of the project is so great enough.

I believe that the most important criterion is the project team, it is important that the project Manager took part in various Blockchain conferences and promoted his project. Very important activity and constant news from the project in social networks.Another point, feedback from investors developers and administrators.

there was no perfect coin but there is a good coin, there were lots of good coin in the market but the things is the team behind it are not serious taking further success and sometimes they are abandoning the project after sales. Investing in presale may took a risk if the softcap dont reach, it is better if the team return your investment or the worse thing they will not send it back to you.

Maybe it is true to say Investing in Presale is risky because the softcap didn't reach or just because it is a scam, but many people said that the success of an ICO depends on the progress of its team devs, they are responsible for making their project more interesting to investors, so the more famous team devs and more fascinating the project, the Presale will soon sold out and easier to have a success ICO, and our investors can have a great chacne to have profit from a cheap price at presale.

If the crypto market conditions become good, the Altcoins will work effectively and have great potential. Therefore when investors buy altcoins at presale stage is very potential. But I see this time the crypto market not really good, so buying presale in ICOS projects is very risky because investors do not have confidence in projects.

For me to invest in a coin , I especially like to invest in long-term coins , I choose those coins that have just come to the market and are already in the top , for example eos tron these coins came out only recently and made a noise already!

becoming an investor, indeed what they really want to get is an advantage. because for them the benefits are very important, the problem is that they are not a small investment but also quite a lot so their desires must benefit. although sometimes being an investor there is also a loss, which is certainly reasonable.

I am like you that I am still looking for a new way out with future success and profit in my dedication. But a product is too high, I just learn and follow to find a better error than others  ::)

I have known crypto and ICO since 2016, and from that moment on I was happy with ICO Invest starting from Presales, at that time many projects reached hardcap so devs. have large capital to control prices.

Thinking of becoming great would definitely push you up. Keep searching out for ICOs and other project trending coins. But do ensure what you are dealing in, must have strong roots and isn’t scam. Hundreds of innocent people lose their income in ICOs. As you can’t just check which one is right and wrong, do proper research. Ask experts who have trust in some ICOs and only then interact with them.

I  invested in a few ICOs that ended up failing but I haven't lost hope.  There are always great projects on the horizon just keep the faith.

Interestingly enough I was going back and reading old posts and I found a lot of posters calling Ethereum  a scamwhen it was running their ICO.

Mainly the ICO's objectives as their White Papers, to be aware of what future the new coin holds and will probabily provide to us.
It's not 100% garantee loss back of course but you can still take your peak and chose if you rather decide a stable looking coin than one that provides you more profit.
Also check some background history from the company / devs working.

In my opinion: if you are not huge investor with at least few hundreds K, there are no point to invest in ICO right now.
It will be much more cheaper to buy coins after listing, price will drop almost for sure.

I have never invest in pre sale but one of the things I look out for in any project I want to invest in is how real are the team behind it and how active are they with there response to question and the potential of the coin to the existing cryptocurrency ecosystem.

There are closed pools in which all projects are discussed and investment decisions are made, of course, at an early stage.I have been in the same pool for about 3 years and basically all investment decisions brought me profit.

more precisely, investors are waiting for the moment for the bounty distribution to be carried out. because there are a number of projects that have been distributed by investors and locked or delayed distribution for several months bounty. after the bounty distribution there will be a decline in prices, and such moments are awaited by investors to benefit from buying coins at lower prices.

The first way to identify a good project is how relevant the product the project is producing or the good things they have to offer all the cryptocurrency community, and also find out if the project had successfully reach soft and hard cap.

Yes there are some projects who don't pay bounty hunters I mean if we consider current circumstances hardly any project pays their bounty participants as either projects are scan or just not confident about their project by assuming bounty hunters will dump the price by selling cheap thus earning a bad reputation. Investors need to think from a point of view which neither bounty hunters nor the project owner can think in order to get the best out of it.

Investing in presale is quit risky, because you won't know whether the ICO will raised softcap or not, except the presale cap is enough to cover softcap.
But buying on presale usually will get the bonus, which is good for big investors. You will have to take the risk, or leave it.

I think this is option is only for late investors.

*PRODUCT
*TEAM
*WHITEPAPER
*POSSIBILITY THAT THE PRODUCT WILL PATRONIZE BY THE COMMUNITY

sometimes but not always i invest on presale
of course i will doing a deep research first before investing,, because its all about money buddy
i will all the thing about the project, read their whitepaper, learn more about their team member, and all
when i believe the project is good and have a good future too,, then i will drop my money there

There are terms and condition regarding presale.  Most project return their collected fund during presale if they failed their ICO.  I believe the risk is greater in an ICO than the pre-sale since the token is cheaper during this period than the ICO period.  

If I have to choose I would love to participate in pre-sale than ICO because of the bonuses you stated.  But still, I would suggest that OP must do his research about the project he is wanting to invest in.

The most important thing for investors is to be patient, for me waiting for profit is certainly better than selling with a loss position, I am always optimistic that the market can skyrocket so waiting is the best option.

For now i wont to invest in many ICO, because many of ICO are scam. But if the project is good and the project is running with good developer i think, its good ICO and i will invest on that coin.

don't spend your money in ico.we have better way to generate profit , maybe IEO could be other choice.this trending now and much investors want to participate but unfortunately each investors limited in their investment.

Today, the best way to make money in the crypto market is to follow the hype. How sad or ugly it sounds, but it is a fact. A lot of illogical things happen on the crypto market and we need to understand this and be able to adapt to the new rules of the game.

What is the rule you meant, can you tell me. Crypto marketplace is really wasted few months before now again bull run started and everything seems going correct again. If you believe this you may also go to invest your favourite top listed coins.
Please do not make meaningless replies and spam here with yobit signature. Yobit needs legit participants.

I really do love to know also all the answer of your questions especially this one (I ask all the investors, what makes a coin Perfect!?! ).

Because if someone can really provide you the correct answer then you will surely become the very successful investor in the future.
If someone can know and really predict the future of the project, I will be love to make them my companion and even give him 50% share of my income.

Good amount information, best team, active devs and even working platform will not guarantee that everything will become successful in the end. But it will surely give you a hint what project to believe or has potential in the long run.

That's right, right from the beginning the market has been a very good playing field and investors are trying to fight for a lot of benefits, but then what, it's hard to talk about later  ::) you can know I mean?

Today, initial exchange offering has eliminated the risk to a great extent in the presales of the tokens in the crypto market. The risk you are talking about had been an integral part of the ICO thing and that is no more preferred. The digital exchange make sure the project pass through a tough and vetted assessment before the sale gets conducted which means that the risk is very low and going for a presale could be profitable.

Not everyone here is s spammer. I think that there are many learned people who could give you good information about something you do not understand about the crypto market. This is the benefit of the forum. You get to know about so many ideas and important information in matter of minutes. But yeah, you do not have to rely on all theses. Try to prove these suggestions right by doing your own research.

Every project must have a purpose for which they are  coming out. Purpose is to solve one issue or the other.
The team must be credible and have a good tract record of their past endeavors. Not just some pick and join peeps who just feel they know and decide they can do something.
So I research more on their team. The first time I tried to learn about team was when iota came out and I decided to take my time to read about the team members. Some are renowned professors. Further, their developmental strides. By this I mean how dedicated are they to their so called technology and the time frame given for d release of platform or a technology

This is a good approach to studying the team, but it eliminates those projects that come out from teams that have not created anything yet, and it can be so innovative that in a year, two it will turn the whole world upside down.

I think experience and knowledge will membingbing you on the speculation that you will do in the investment of ico, and of course all have a considerable level of risk.
even ico is more at risk of getting a loss than trading on the stock exchange.
I think as a whole it must be seen from all aspects of the ico. ideas, technology or the like that really can be a convincing selling power grow high in the next few years. that's investment

The rule of thumb in investing is research. Before you invest, dig deeper into the composition of the team behind the project. An important aspect to look for is the legitimacy of the team. Next is the project, ask yourself whether is it worth investing for? Is it innovative and will eventually lead to the success of the project? If you think "yes" is the answer to these questions then it is a good choice to invest. It is very similar to a game (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/wild-pixies?utm_source=ccwp) of analyzing where to put your money.

not only from what you just mentioned but there are several other points before being interested in following presale

• Partner
• Expert review

That is two additional points from me

if we talk about presale of course an active and professional devs, with real social media link, will make me interesting with the project
and the detail specifications from the project too buddy, a whitepaper, roadmap, vision, etc,,
because for now a lot of project is a copy from the old one

If we analyze the situation over the past years, then the fraudsters didn’t go deep into the process and didn’t try to hide their activities and because very few people paid attention to it at the very beginning, the fraudsters managed to deceive quite a lot of investors.  But today, fraudsters began to work more professionally and attentively, because even more attentive and substantial analysis of all available information may not give a 100% guarantee of the success of a single project.  Of course, this does not mean that analyzing information is not needed.  Need of course to do, but the results can be unpredictable.

investing is more personal than questions on people's opinion. it is always advised for people to consider their instincts and do their own personal research and note or know what should be done or considered for the prospective project to deem fit enough to commit funds to

You can't leave one for another. For exampe, if there is a good working platform but DEV isn't active, nothing much will be happened. On the other hand, there's no point of active DEV without any real works. So, all the components are important.

Inside voice can be wrong for investing smartly and there are other tools for measuring the success rate of the project or token sale. ICOs are no more profitable and the alternatives can beat the old way of project development.

it is indeed very good if fellow investors are open to each other and explain how to choose a good and attractive project to invest without having to ask other people who do not understand the project.

The problem is we don't see that very often and that's probably because many investors are greedy and want to keep everything for themselves. If a good investor talks with another one about a good project, then the other investor do the same thing further there will be no room left for everyone meaning the first invertor that initially recommended the project will not get the full benefits of its investment.

what is seen is profit, profit and profit. buy when pre-sale, then when launching the token, the exchange rate rises. that's the most important thing for investors.

The most important question for investors now is whether they already prepare money for their investment when altcoins fall deeper and deeper in the next few hours. If they actually have spare money, and have good determination with their decision in such phase of crypto market, it is time for them to buy and accumulate cheap altcoins. When they actually do this, they will have a bags that bring them huge profits next several months. When altcoins fall like this, there are so many crying, complaints, but investors whom waited for it for too long likely feel very happy to see it happens.

I really do duff my cap for investors. They are very much worth commending. No matter the amount of research and being sure of a project, most fail at this time. Either they do not list after the sales or they give losses to investors by listing below sales price. Investors are great individuals.

I don't invest in presales but as much as possible you should take precautions of investing one up to this day. The market is saturated and I think it's no longer a good choice to invest into such. But for certain points on what makes a coin perfect, there's no perfect coin, as long as the devs are working on it and communicative it is a plus points.

I don't like both ICOs and IEOs, because they are both risky investments. I would prefer to invest in old projects, that already survived through some difficult period of market, and actually released some products for their users. By focusing on such projects, I have more evidence to have better assessments on quality of those projects, their team's productivity, and their reputation.

Of course the idea has to be good, unique and competitive. Still, Adoption is definitely the key point here, and also popularity, no matter how good the team is trying to be, outer growth is what that attract investors, noted that all these things takes time to realize so investing early is always risky no matter what

The investors are people who taking the risks and they enter the token sales that a lot of risks are worth to potential rewards. Trusted projects don't need to make a KYC for cutting the tokens.

Buying at the presale phase in an ICO is very risky thing to do but some investors always in this part because of the bonus and I invest in presales as well. Firstly, I always research about the background of the team then you can look at their partnerships as well and confirm with your due diligence if its real or not. Then lastly, the product is what I really look deeply, If the project have a real purpose in the real world or not.

It's sort of assurance if you have a strategy like that. You should invest into those kind of projects that's already established because if you are not too confident with the project that you can see right now, you shouldn't invest on it.

Risk measures the rate of profit too, for your info. If you can invest in a good project in ICO stage, I believe it is possible to have a chunk amount of profit. However, in established projects it's also possible but I doubt the profit rate will be high.

There are really more things to consider before investing especially now that scammers are everywhere ready to get your money. We'll I guess we really need to be very careful on choosing the project or ICO that we need to join so we can really secure our resources.

this has always been my standing tools in investing, I research deep into the project, deep in the core team behind the project, their profiles, how strong and effective they manage their social media channels and how responsive their support team also is. Above these, the major investor behind the project which is very key. I also invest in what I can afford to lose.

Today, almost all investors do not want to take risks and first of all consider investing their money on the exchanges, where there is a real project and a minimal degree of risk.

Investing in presales is no different from investing in any ICO or IEO or even STO ,you still have to make sure the project is real by checking first on the teams ,believe me White paper investigation should come last because they don't prove how good a project is anymore ,make sure the project will attract lots of investors ,working product should be implemented for that to happen

Im not an investor, but i see a lot of investors were investing in pre sales ICO when the ICO was hyping in 2017.
There is no perfect coin, but there are some good coins which have potential to grow in the future.
Active dev is great, they should doing AMA often so the investors won't sell their token because lose of confidence.

The important question is when bitcoin stop its latest bull run? At least, what I saw gives me a feeling that bitcoin might come closer to the price at which it will stop its bull run. Altcoins have all shown that they almost hit their bottoms and might soon bounce back. Personally, I believe that we have been in good period to think of taking profits with Bitcoin in our portfolio, and can start accumulating very cheap altcoins. We have been almost in last days of altcoin massacre. Last three weeks, bitcoin and altcoins have moved in opposite directions, but sooner or later we will jump into the phase in which bitcoin and altcoins will move together.

Yes I am invest in presale but before I invest I will have some research about the project. And have some survey to my other business partner about that to make sure that this is legit. And for me the most interesting thing to invest is the salary offered that you can get and most specially is the coin price value on that time.

No, I have never invested in presale because I don't like investments like ICO or IEO.

Of course I read the whitepaper and then I examined the team and the most important was the partner of the project.

Surely everyone is looking for profit, in my opinion this is the reason.

What is clear is that all because of the seriousness of the developer in the success of the project and the contribution of good investors.

I think that's all I can answer, remember! always be careful before investing. Here is full of scammers hiding

investors should first know that you must be a risk taker.
not every project is likely to be profitable as expected. but to reduce the risk of losses, the fund sources of each projects speaks a lot on the success of the ICO, in the direction of meeting the soft and hard cap. Take NOTE!. Then, we are now familiar with reasonable project manager. do so too.

I do not think the community is as really important as the team/dev. This is because if a project is lucky to have a good community, then it so happened that a bad team is behind such project? All that will be done is to dupe those good people and run.

First of all, of course, a visual inspection of the site and verification of the team. Then I read the white paper, not all, but the sections that interest me, the idea and implementation is very important to me. If the company has well-known, confirmed partners, then this is a very fat plus in favor of it. You should also not hesitate to ask questions in social networks and groups. And of course the price of the coin matters, I basically did not buy expensive coins. But all this is in the past, now I prefer to invest through IEO.

But sad fact, investor sometime look on presale only for big bonus. Project that give a lot of bonus i  looked without see their background of project. And some of them think if they will only sell it right after they get profit.

Many investor do not care about how trusted an owner before make much investing with some ICOs project, always be careful with many owner is not trusted by never support their product with always lower price after listing on exchange.

- Yes, I still do. Presales provide you a much more higher bonus compare to public sales. You can consider private sales if you're right after the bonus rewards but generally there's a bigger minimum contribution.

- The team, their legitimacy. Do they have a notable person behind the project, a good example is Vitalik from Eth, Daesik Kim from Bitthumb, Alfred Kahn which is one of the founders of Pokemon (http://ecomi.com?utm_source=ecomilx), Charlie Lee from LTC. Someone great that can be the face of the project. I also look at great use cases that the project can apply for the real world. I'm not just in for the money, I'm in for the tech too!

- Good use cases and great relationships outside of the project. This will generally give you profits at the end of the fundraising event.

- This can be a plus. Have you heard of a reverse ICO? Companies running "Reverse ICOs" typically already have a working product and a proven track record, with real-world users and existing communities. This is very different from traditional ICOs, which often do not even have a working product and just a beta platform.

At the end of the day, its all gonna fall on you. Knowledge is key and just do your own research.

BTC is more stable than most of alts. Usually when BTC decrease in price you will see alts following the downtrend.

To invest in a coin, always check the last achievements as milestones, future plans, social media activity etc, and never invest more than you can afford to lose.

Both the two features you mention plus on how they market their coin, all these three are important if investors and the community saw these they will support this kind of project, if I will rank it dev is very important, followed by the platform and marketing of the coin, all investors when they see a good coin will invite friends to that coin.

I think that many investors do not investigate the effect of inflation on the price of a coin. After all, it is very important. If inflation is more than 20% per year, it will put pressure on the course of the coin.

I believe that all these economic terms do not work in the world of cryptocurrencies.  There is something else here.  This is instability.  This is the most public thing to know.

Pre-sale and private sale investors are always the most highest risk takers in the cryptosystem though I have not participate in any one. But to my research they do take note on the following: business working product, the business plan, the financial projection of the project for a period of time, the team behind the project, early investors benefits and the legal documents of the project to ensure the safety of their funds.

Guys, I am also having a pretty interesting question. To start with, how often do you explore new tokens? And do you usually only trade them or also performing some other operations? For example, have you thought of mining? And do you mine any from time to time?

Hmm, to tell the truth, I haven't thought of mining lately - is it profitable nowadays? Cause you know, prices on electricity are rather high, so you know, we have to evaluate many aspects before starting up. Also, haven't met many solutions that are available in the US market :)

Of course, many things should be evaluated on your own, the costs etc. But yes, there are advanced solutions on the market today. As for the US market, the company I know and the one my friends interacted with is called Asicequipment. They are the guys with pretty huge own history and are widely spread in the US, so you can have a look and evaluate on your own :)

For investors buying in presale is more risk, this means that they don't really care if the project will flop later or not. To buy in presale you must have done your research if they offer any real product or service and you must have found out if the team behind the project can be trusted and how healthy their community is. I think with that you will find out if they are legit or not.

 I personally think one of the primary things you should explore before deciding to invest is take your time to evaluate the project team to see if the team is legit, reliable and have the necessary expertise to deliver the project. Then you should see also whether the idea backing the project is unique or a common one. The market has numerous projects comparable with one another. In the event that a project is one of a kind and it has possibility to advance after some time, it will develop. Generally, this two factors are very important for you to consider before investing your money in any project (either at presale or main sale).

Nope, most of it is a scam
I once invested in an ICO and I got nothing from it, most of the good ones don't need small players and nowadays, it's much better to invest your money to well known cryptocurrencies.
Of course its legitimacy and transparency to its investors because anyone can make up stories of their vision and mission and end up nothing after their coin launched.
There's no perfect coin, even Bitcoin isn't.

What is certain before investing is researching the project as a whole so that we know how the project is going forward. Because with that we will think and be sure to invest in a promising project and in the future, of course the project can develop. Never be affected by sales that have a lot of bonuses.

You have to check and analyse everything about the project before you throw your money in a project, the most important point for me is practical use cases of the project, if you think that the project is commercially attractive and it will bring lot of business, customers and revenues then it is a great project to invest.

You say that you have questions for presale investors but why do you ask if you invest in presales?
sorry, you should not need to enter the question because you are asking presale investors so it is clear that they are people who invest in presales

I rarely join the pre-sale token/coin because I rarely found a good project that require that much funding. Many ICO did the sale with over price and high soft cap which make me think that the project is a scam. Good project supposed to be self funded and run ICO only if needed, if you want to see what kind of coin you invest just take Ethereum as an example, the coin did an ICO long ago find that has solid fundamental as those and then you can decide whether to invest or not.

Pre-sales are a popular technique often used by token sales to attract capital from early bird investors and private funds, but these are becoming less relevant now with the advent if IEOs which are bringing about a more level playing field for retail investors with most major launch pads applying an individual cap or a lottery format for members who wish to participate

It will not just put pressure on the growth of coins in the crypto market but will affect the market overall and all the assets in the market excluding gold maybe. But the impact on the crypto coins might not be as hard as it would be on the rest of the assets and I truly am confident that I will not loose money despite a more than 20% annual inflation.

As you know more of ICO's are scams and investors not willing to invest in ICO,s Pre-sale, so if you wants to invest than you should invest in IEO.

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I just like the way you analyzed the post one after the other. All these are essential to know a good project to invest in but the most important part is knowing the opinion of the project community.

Investing in presale gives you a huge discount but it is very risky as the project only starting up. I usually invest in pre-sale and not in main ICO because early investors always have a great opportunity than the new investors. And this is the only things I research deeply about the project, first is their product and use-case what will be the impact to the industry. And the most important is the team, if they have a good experience and records.

STOs are not so rampant like ICOs and IEO that are overtaking the space now. To me, all are similar in some way. What do you mean by % burning? Like the project burning some percentage of their token? I think I hardly hear about this these days. ICOs are becoming discouraging now. I just go with an ICO has a working product and good usecase with a dedicated team.

Of course, investment is always a certain risk and any investor should always check the project in which it invests on the cash of the product at what stage it is also to look with which companies have partnerships and much more to check the project from beginning to end and only after that make a decision about investing.

First of all, I do deep research on the team members if they are legitimate or not. Next I look at the project aim if it can be achieved by the said team. Then I look at the product, I check their github repository to see how far they've gone with respect to development, because I have no business with what's written on whitepaper. Then I look at the token economics before taking my decision. 

risk is always present when investing.  But risk is not always bad.  When the risk is justified, it is even very good.  This can be trusted and invested to increase your income.

This is the new one I know about all the questions that are so difficult for me to give an explanation or response, so that I also know that with this statement, please who knows who was briefly explained about or about the elements in this way

Please explain a little

Many things I consider to determine my decision to invest. All of my analysis so that I get the right investment land. The platform and the development team are two things that really deserve to be considered. An experienced developer certainly has a better working direction than a team of developers who have no experience. A platform that is good and can be significantly useful is also important because this platform will later attract investors' attention and build public trust. Besides that, the most important of an investment land is the long-term project plan. If the long-term plan is clear and realistic then the possibility for the coin to succeed and survive in the larger market.

First, there is no ICO.
Secondly, the activity of the team. The project should not be very new, so that there is some kind of story.
It is desirable that the liquidity of the asset was at least sometimes.

I would love to invest in pre sales if it is from a trusted group and i was eager to invest in Brave and wanted to invest heavily during the pre sale but you know what happened to it as it ended in thirty freaking seconds and never gave any opportunity to anyone to invest in it, i did purchase some after hitting the market, other than that i never wanted to invest in any hype project as you never know how that will end, the main reason i wanted to invest in Brave is the experience of the developers who are leading the project.

My questions to investors is why they are investing in projects that has no products to use for,just for example what if tokens you buy in ico or ieo will dump after trading so what are going tl do with those tokens if they dont have the product,So much better to invest in projects that has proven and tested team and in project that are good to make successful product like Dencoin that sooner reach succeed in the project because it has the potential token and potential product.

If this kind of questions was asked two years ago, the answer will be so easy, but now it's hard to tell if the project is good and it will not scam people I have seen a good project with a good platform and real developers behind it, but still, they run away with people's money

I think there are many aspects to evaluating an ico. As a community, development trends, how to manage tokens are brought to the market ... now to have a good ico is really hard

I have never invested in the presale of any ICO. Previously when I invested in ICO, I always studied their projects, what I believe most is the idea, team of the project and their advisers.

I would like to ask a questions to investors that making investments on scam projects?why they dont make reviews and research about the project before investing so they are always losing a investments so we can stop scammers if we dont invest on their projects that is one of the best that we can do.And now if investors are looking for a good project try this project and make a investments
Dencoin.

Look If you really want to get to the real investment company or ICO,IEO or whatever they name them out there, the first time you must do is look for their devs if they really who they are not just some stolen pictures on google and if you certain that they are really the one you can proceed with your list.

I was investing but for some time i am not investing anything.

Because, it seems projects has successful ico's, not having great time on the exchange. Even they seem amazing on the paper.

For now, am nit a Pre-Sale investor. I did that back in 2017 and it was a bad experience. While investing though, it's good to look out for the uniqueness of the project, the product it has to sell, the team and then feedbacks from the community.

Join in pre sale, no i am not doing that anymore.
I just want to look a listed coin who have a good potential to grow next time.
I quite join ICO because i am tired and just look IEO if i interesting with that project.

My questions to investors are why they stop investing and not trusting new platforms and new projects in crypto now.and they want to recover losses but not doing any steps try it so I can say they don't want recover the losses they have in the past so if you are pro investor you will try again and take the opportunity now because this opportunity has come for us to make investments and to continue the rally to successfully in this cryptocurrency.

Presale does provide a bonus that is quite tempting but also usually requires large funds. for investors the most important thing is that we can see the projeck in detail from the detail platform and also the whitepaper. if they already have beta, we can also test their platform to find out. all things related to the projeck must be examined in detail.

Absolutely agree with you. We must find out and examine the whitepaper and don’t be too rush to invest. At least we know the team or devs and be detailed about the project.

I invest in presale. for me it's quite simple that I used to research the coin. including the concept of coins and projects, the team behind the project and also the roadmap. if it does have consistency and convince me I will be at the presale as an investor.

Of course, it will not be very profitable to invest in ico now , but I think now ieo brings very good profits , I think now there are many areas in which you can earn very well

I have my secrets when it comes to investing in coins and not only. I could give you a hit, success is ensured only after ICO so everything is like gambling.

I think the most important thing for investing in an new project is the hype of the project we see many projects with the same ideas but with the good marketing team it was successful

yes what you say is true that before choosing a project or investing in an ico project, it is better to first examine the overall contents of the project you want to follow. both from the experience of the previous team, what products they launched, and how many partners joined them. yes actually this is not a complete guarantee but at least you can avoid fraudulent projects.

I think there are no good projects that don't think of good advertising too. they certainly already have a strategy for marketing their products. if there is a project that doesn't think about it I think don't invest in them. because putting an ad in a strategic place of course requires a lot of money and if the team is serious about their project they will definitely do it.

yes of course there are still many considerations that we must examine before joining the gift project including the road map that they are developing, and not only that there are also other things such as the background of the team in handling the gift project and also communication on their channel, because of the communication it's important to know the progress of the project you're visiting

Good morning guys! Does anybody aware of good sites for mining equipment in Germany?

Hi, I live in Brussels, and can name you a. few shops in germany and belgium. But there is a cheaper option that I have discovered recently

What is it? A site? Or a trading platform? Ebay?

Not ebay, of course, site called asicequipment com. They sell Asic miners with free shipping,  do you need a link?

Of course, the things that you have to do before joining a prize project are strongly recommended to first check the contents of all the projects you want to follow, because now many projects end in fraud and hopefully bad things don't happen with projects that are being followed .

Yeah, send me a link as well. How did you discover this one?

AS usual, scanning threads like this. Here and on medium com were praising asicequipment and I decided to make a small purchase, and as it was delivered in time and with outstanding quality, I can recommend this site

Free shipping on all orders? Even If I liv ein Germany?

Yes, on all orders without exception

That's an interestingoffer. Prices are much lower than in EU

That's why I have ordered there :))

If you spend enough time and research the project and are sure that this IEO/STO/ICO is legit, than I would also take part in pre sales, because you will get tokens for a much better price, but usually, a lot of funds are required to take part in pre/private sales.

Bro, you write the right words. I have checked a bunch of these photos and found out that in reality, they belong to other people. It is not even a shame. It is a stupidity of the people that decided to create a large-scale project to scam people and even did not think that the fraud could be revealed with the simplest Google search (identifying pictures online).

They are good question but to me those doesn't really matter as its just one of the characteristics of the good project while the major issue is the team or developer who ready for the project and aim to really face any challenge as they are the main back bone to make the project succeed with the effort they put in place .

Guys, what to choose? Trading or mining? I am trading for 2 month. Lost almost 150$ In total. I am newbie and watched many videos how to trade but I still do not understand how to catch a trend. Mining seems little bit easier, it's more passive

You are wrong a bit. Trading is much easier and cheaper option. Mining equipment is expensive. It's very hard to start from a zero point. But in today's world there is an option of starting rather quick.

What an option? It can be clearly seen that theyre are sites to specialize on asic miners. Equipment is expensive but I guess that it worth it. Do you mine yourself?

Yes, both trade and mine. I started a long time ago. Bought asic rigs on asicequipment com. I purchased S9i model for a reasonable price on sale these days.

How many devices you actually own now?

I bought 6 miners they are still very powerful and productive.

So you ordered all of them on asicequipment?

Yes, as I have seen many positive reviews and decided to try once a year ago and now

And why you recommend trading instead? Or fuse both?

As trading is affordable. But if you want mining you may try! Make small money on trading big money on mining

Usually, I study the project carefully before taking the decision of investing (either in the presale or in the main sale). I read the whitepaper, I check the team and make sure they are real and experienced people, I check the website, the product and its quality, if everything looks good then I can invest even in the presale.

Advise some interesting in your opinion projects in which it is worth investing today?

Look at the TERA PLATFORM project. This is a new project, but very young and promising. No IEO, ICO or presale. Only classic mining. The TERA coin is already trading on more than 10 exchanges!

Losing your money is always your personal responsibility. Of course, we can’t do anything in a situation where the exchange on which our funds were located was hacked, but the decision to put money there was made not by anyone, but by ourselves.

The initial factors that we need to check if you want to become an investor in pre-sale, in my opinion, are:
1. security token or platform token usage
2. the concept offered, is it realistic or not?
3. Road-map, to find out whether the developer has a mature concept to ensure that their tokens will really run in the future.
4. partnership, partnership has the most influence in achieving the success of a project.

not everyone has such a high level of responsibility for their actions and that is why many people are simply used to blaming people around them

Do you invest in Presales? I depend if the project is good and they offer a bonus for early birds

What do you research first in order to invest? Is the concept original

What makes the project interesting and worth investing?[/b] Concept, people behind the team and hype

I ask all the investors, what makes a coin Perfect!?! There's no such thing as perfect coin only profitable

A working platform? It's a must for a project to have a working platform, this is what defines them[/b]

Active devs? Of course to keep the project going

1. No, I haven't
2.I haven't invested in presales before due to limited funds, but I will love to, because you tend to get in cheaper and if turns out good, it yields great profit
3.Most times I look at the problem they are trying to solve, and the efficiency of the solution they are bringing
4.There is no perfect coin, just coins with a particular use case
5.I'll definitely go for a working platform
6.Yes, very important, as they are the core ingredients to a successful platform

Actually to be a presale investor, the first thing you should check if you want to participate in presale is, look for accurate information about the project, whether the project is real or fake. because most investors fail, on average they do not study this project in detail when deciding to invest.

I just thought and wished that sometimes I could invest in presale, but just as good as it is, it also has its shortcomings.
Although, I prefer more the presale of IEO of good projects, on reputable exchange. It's just that sometimes, it is not easy to buy them, because of competition.

Basically my speculation procedure resembles this I don't contemplate the future and the past supposing that you think the future just there is no utilization in it going out on a limb will be an odds of including in it and take the result from the outcome so you should be more with free attitude it will be the best way to get effective.

actually I am not a great investor or clever in analyzing projects, but seeing a bad market situation I anticipate by seeing the products they offer to the market, the product is the most important thing in the project. because quality products are very interested in many investors.

Investing in ICOs is a very risky move nowadays. Too many scams, too hard task for the team to promote their project, list their coin and pump it... Presale investing is even more risky.

My experience in investing in Presale was to find out the difference in the project by communicating directly with the entire project development team ... then I looked at the whitepaper ... did it have a good and sustainable project or they just wanted to make a profit only ... I also see the ICO rating ... whether it has a rating that is big or not ... and the sale is done openly.

If I have funds i will invest in presale but i will choose carefully if the project is an outstanding and a quality one because if not it's just a waste of money and time. For now i think investing in projects presale is a big risks because most of it are failed, we need to choose wisely.

the same as I do, although not 100% accurate, but the analysis approach can prevent us from fraud projects. in a situation like now, investors are increasing their accuracy in investing in a project, especially if we are going to invest in a presale, of course we should be able to read a project carefully

Even now we are also facing some issues with the IEO's because some companies are collecting in one exchanges and failing to list the coin in that exchange. They are taking too much time for listing, that's why it is always good to look for potential exchange which has ability to list the coin after the IEO.

We cannot deny that as there maybe no new successful ICO in the market now, most of the success are coming from IEO market.
Even the coins that were created in 2017 through ICO are still struggling now and even if they are already trading in good exchange with great liquidity.

We should study the market carefully now, we only invest in IEO that are also in good exchange as some IEO in smaller exchange might not be profitable.
The best method to employ is always go with the flow or the trend.

Investing when you’re young is one of the best ways to see solid returns on your money. That’s thanks to compound interest, which means your investment returns start earning their own return. Compound interest allows your account balance to snowball over time

I'm not in that part, considering that many cases of project fraud make me hesitate to invest in it, I prefer to invest in top altcoin like eth / bnb / eos to minimize losses. maybe in the next year or if the market situation is really stable and the project has hopes I will certainly try to take part in it. for now no

I was investing but for some time i am not investing anything.

Because, it seems projects has successful ico's, not having great time on the exchange. Even they seem amazing on the paper.

Well, I can say those are great projects, they have already give profit to investors especially in the past, these major altcoins also have good liquidity so they won't go away. For me, I have to learn how to divide my investment from long term to short term, and high risk to low risk, that way, I will be able to manage it properly as sometimes those high risk investment could also give us a life changing profit.

Like the famous words I heard most of the time, let's not play safe all the time, and investing in a high risk coin is a good example of not playing safe.

As investors should be careful in determining the project. Looking at the look of the website should be good and the team, management must have a good and experienced background. I always consider projects that have good partners and especially for large exchanges. Whitepaper, the roadmap should be clear and we must understand it. So we have clear information about the project's objectives and have active development.

A good project should have a working product and a real hardworking team ! If these two are confirmed then I think the project should be given a go ahead ! Most times projects don’t pass this two ! There is always a loop hole that will point it  out unless it ignored !

In general, before any investment in any project, first of all, you need to check the reviews. Need to know first hand about the project. Who, how, why, why, how they communicate with the community, how quickly they solve complex issues, what plans, whether these plans are confirmed by partners, and so on.
Before investing in any project, it is critically important to familiarize yourself with the roadmap and how the project is going on this roadmap.
If there is no such information due to the fact that the project is young, then you need to wait, take your time, the risks are always high.
Sometimes it is immediately evident that the project hardly overcomes the stated goals. The more promises a project makes, the more carefully you need to be when investing in it.

In my opinion, coins will look good if they have large liquidity and transactions every day. Large liquidity signifies investor confidence to trade and invest in the market. In addition, the products produced will increase investor confidence to increase investment and hold for the long term

Beside invest on pre sale we got big bonus from ICO project about 40% but we have waiting for their road map of selling, maybe late for main sale with anything problem faced by an ICO project, but we can get much profit after listing with higher price because we got double coin from ICO investing.

Depending on the project, I will decide whether to invest in selling first or not.
The first thing when I research a project is that the development team needs to be reputable and professional. In addition, the product and the development roadmap need attention.
If a project on environmental protection would be appreciated by me.

I invested in some some presale. Its hard to mark a project in that time is it good or not. Some basic thing is checking white paper, check team , check team members history that's all. Its kind of taking a fish when you participate into presale.

I think everyone has their own way before investing in a project. I personally see more about the team behind it, what products are delivered and whether it will be very useful for the future or can be said to be very much needed in the future, investing in presale is also the right choice because you can say if the project has an active team in responding, products and plans for the future have been prepared well, I think investing into it is a very appropriate choice.

For me, I do not look at long term investment. Rather I look at the current performance of a project before investing. An active and strong team, impressive technology and goal, good whitepaper and website, financial status of the project are factors I focus on before investing during ICOs.

Most of important things you considered you already know. Just prepare your self before investing because even good project on people can destroy this project reputation and the risk of zero return of investment has always there.

Nowadays, other review sites like icobench are making good comments in exchange for money.  I witnessed a lot of projects which had 5 star on icobench got scam. So I have some serious questions about the accuracy of the ico reviews. So comments are not an important criterion, especially in the world of cryptocurrency.

Therefore, users should be able to comment on their own and invest accordingly.

I research ' team ' before I invest. People behing a project is the most important thing. Search about their education, experiences and how they contributed to blockchain world before. I see TONS of project who make their wife CTO, their children CMO and his friend as markeing manager. Those projects never succeed, never. Check the team, add on Linkedin if you can.

I think 70% of the issues to be considered before buying a coin are basic, 30% are technical specifications.
If the coin has a solid project, if the coin's team is hardworking and reliable and if it has really remarkable feature to buy finally, I look at the technical analysis, if it looks technically positive, I will buy

Good evening everyone. From my point of view, one of the most important components is the value solution brings. And even in red oceans there is always a place for innovations and new solutions

That's true and I fully agree with you. But know advanced and leading platforms are aimed at business adoption, many industries etc. Especially finances and banking are adoption blockchain

Agree with you. And even new solutions are appearing to make blockchain even more trustworthy. For example, have you heard of UOS Network already?

That's right but the mist critical aspects of project an investors should ensure he or she check out before investment. Check if the project have a good workable product that's backing it up. Also, there maybe competitor's in the market with the same products but their product should be able to competes with others in the market.

UOS? Nope, haven't heard. What exactly are the guys offering?

In the emerging decentralized and pseudonymous environment, there is a need for coordinates to assess the trustworthiness of those to deal with. So in few words, UOS is a universal reputation system constituting an open-source blockchain protocol. And the guys stay for almost all p2p interactions

So far sounds pretty professional, for sure will have a closer look shortly, just opened their website. Thanks a lot for recommendation!

If i had big amount of money, I would invest in private sales because they are really cheap compared to public sales and then they first come to an exchange, we can make a huge profit out of them. I remember Cosmos (ATOM) was 0.1 dollars at sales, it came out at the price of 7-8 dollars which is about 70-80 times profit, its unbelievable.

Before all this, of course, it worked and almost always helped to understand all the capabilities and technologies of the company you wanted to invest in, but now it makes no sense to study the companies that conduct ICOs, because now there are more scam companies than ever, so I invest only in companies that conduct IEO on top exchanges and of course I study these companies completely.

I invest in presale,

What I'm looking for is transparency.

I think if it was a real working product people would have trusted for a long time.

There is no perfect coin it can be found in developmets to enhance and use it well.

And of course, I also look to investors' support and opinion on a project, whether it's good or bad, and there I can make a firm decision on whether or not to invest in that token.

Behind every successful project is a great team, i believe that every thing starts from the teams and ends with the teams as well, the better the teams the better the project and its future as well, what matters is the team no matter how good the project itself is

Investing in the presale is too long do you not get bored waiting for it because it is not yet transparent, real product work is indeed important in a project I am always looking for projects that many people are interested in.
That decision is in your hands and look for what is really in the lyrics by investors.

well , me too , but i like presale just because bonuses ,
sadly, for now , i dont see any transparency of ico funds.
they claim they raising 10 millions, 5 millions 1 millions, but i cant see from where the funds came from.
that one of many reason i stop be investor for ICO project, guess IEO is more better , and the product , of course exchange will be responsible for that

Hi, as I relate to the topic, I would be pleased If somebody helped me with considering buying GRAMs. Good Idea or not?

I would say that it's perfect idea. GRAM is developing. And sooner or later will be released.

Yeah, but there are questions to release date. What do you think? Won't it fall?

How will it fall? There is a developed market and concept by TON, people believe in project so it will come to light now or tomorrow, no matter

Every legit coin is "perfect". I mean the idea is promising, the project has great potential, and the dev team are serious and has a solid goal in mind. But all those three will fade away if the public and the investors did not catch the idea. It will be all fall to the promotion and how well the public will respond. As presale, te project needs something that will interest the potential investors before it can be funded for its launch.

some believe some not. I purchased tokens few weeks ago, now considering another purchase

Where and how many tokens are you going to buy?

I bought my share of tokens on bitrexchange.com This is a great exchange, very fast and modern

Why not tokensale? Is it safe to buy there?

Oh, I was late for tokensale so searched through web and found bitrexchange.com where they sold GRAM for a good price

oh, sounds interesting! thanks

I was part of a small investment group made up of 10 nationals from different counties, although we focused more on private sales than presale but we focused more on few keys things like, team transparency and reputation, project strength and reach across the industry as well as how good the MVP was, we also look at he VC investors and backers/partners, possible exchange listing, lock up durations and more importantly, the bonus size to determine the overall venture profitability

Usually what makes a project can be seen from the platform and the concept being developed, you can also see the total supply of coins because a cryptocurrency price occurs when there is very limited demand and supply so usually a project will succeed when they can think of such important things.

I don't know what the project has to be for him to make me buy their coin during the pre-sale. All new projects are a priori considered unsuccessful. I would buy a coin only after I saw the real achievements of the team, and if I understood that it coin really has a perspective in the future.

Buying presale coins are risky but if the project suceeds, it will be of course worth it. Researching more about the project, the developers, the owners and the overall goal of the project helps a lot to determine if the project will succeed. If the goal is too far fetched, and the owners promise too good to be true deal, I don't think many will buy it on presale.

Invest in pre sale time have advantage and disadvantage, when you investing on pre sale you can get much bonus because almost ICOs give about 50% bonus for investor in pre sale time, but you get disadvantage with investing on pre sale where you have waiting very long to get your coin listed on exchange market, maybe if you have saving money you can invest on pre sale time but always with top ICOs.

One of my considerations in investing in a project is the partnership they have. If a project has a partnership with a large company, I think the project will be more successful in the market because it can produce products faster and have good planning.

I agree with you . At this point, we need to consider when investing and if the project works well in this market, it will be a worthwhile investment to wait for in the future. I often research a lot in investing and are always ready psychologically if that coins doesn't get what I want. In fact, the bear market will greatly affect your profits and you need to set a selling target before buying

we are want to be alerted about investing when we really make it, so we want to get some good news the projects and ideas, i like to share with you my experience about hawk network, you can do your own research with that, here is the twitter link of them https://twitter.com/Hawk_HKC/status/1185539270456553472

Usually, I do background check for its team since that will determine if the project will survive and will become persistent amidst its offering. Once I verified that their identity is real and they don't have any bad record, I consider checking their whitepaper and also their support. If their support isn't responsive and they aren't communicating investors professionally, chance is that they are more likely to be scammer. Legit team will answer any questions of its investors/potential investors no matter how many it is professionally

It is very risky to buy coins when the presale does not guarantee it will work or not. Even though there are promises to make it successful, there are still many teams that leave the project even though they have promised so it cannot be confirmed. think again about buying coins in presale because the decision is yours.

I invest in presale when I think the project is a feasible project or arguably a project that will continue to develop based on what I observe. And for my own research, I saw the product that was delivered, the activeness of the team behind the project to make updates and the platform they used, it was a consideration for me.

Having partnership with a large and well-known company has much influence on the project originality because those companies will never destroy their image by making scam partners. Whenever I have to select any project for investment my first priority to check is always project’s partners, also along with this I used to read their white paper, try to get the identity of the project members whether they are real or not. So these things decides the project is scam or not.

If I pay attention, most people who invest only judge based on the result of sales and popularity. They are think if the result of sales is big and have high popularity, they will not be scammed. But because of this, now there are many projects that manipulating the data result of sales on their websites. So, my advice if you want to rate a project using the same way as most people, it's better to check their smart contract first, and match the data with the results of sales on their website.

Team, community can make the project success, if you have good project and good idea but bad team project sure will fail

The Cryptocurrency space is a space that is constantly evolving, there was a time when presales was the shit, if you managed to get in on the presale level of a good project, you are made but those glory days are long gone, infact during the IEO era, if you managed to get into a presale, it is guaranteed that you would lose and lose big because IEO price would be lower with no lockup period. We just have to learn to adapt as things change

flexibility in decisions and the ability to change your strategy for the market - this is the most effective skill for a cryptocurrency investor today

When you say Presale, do you mean Presale or tokensale investments in general? Presale investors were screwed during the IEO phase because every IEO tend to reduce the price of their tokens lower than what it was in the presale stage and sometimes as much as 50% reduction, anyways back to your question.

What I check first before investing in any project is the team, I check to make sure they are real and one of the ways to usually confirm this is conferences and meet-ups, it's very hard to fake that. Additionally I prefer projects with an ready finished product even if it's still in a beta version, that shows that atleast they have a development team which is more than I can say for many projects that raised millions from their tokensales

Presale is the best way to invest in a project, because almost everyone at the beginning is making big discounts or is providing solid bonuses. If you have enough funds to do it, definitely the best choice to earn more profit.

I don't want to participate in presale. I focus on projects types, is this new plans of project. Where is the previous project demand in coinmarketcap if this project isn't new in cryptocurrency.i like blockchain, currency and shipping coin. I don't support new exchange coin, already exists coin isn't good.

Ready and usable finished product helps the project to have a good chance in succeeding to this market, so if you are investing into this presale
project better to make sure not to look for the bonus alone but instead look deeper. The bonus is the last factor since if the coin is just a copycat
the chance of being dumped after being listed is very high. Make sure to understand what you are dealing since you are going to use your money.

Investing in a pre sale is indeed very profitable because we can get a lot of bonuses, but it is also very risky. for investment in presale or ICO we must look at partners and the objectives of the project and we must choose projects that do have real products

   Pre-sales are too expensive. Some of them ask for minimum of couple Ethereums to participate in pre-sale, I will never
give couple Ethereums I own for some untested and new project! When I invest I try to search for projects that deserve
my support.
   There are so many good projects to spare my money on them, why would anyone sane risk that amount of money in
some new project?

Pre sale is indeed very profitable because of the amount of tokens that you will get if you will join the pre sale period. Before you even invest any penny of your money into a project, you should have done your research first to make sure that you are investing into a project that has a potential in the future. Don't just look at the partners and objectives, look for the overall concept of the project, always look for a bigger picture.

One of the things investors are really looking for is a working platform. But not all tokensale or pre sale have a reliable platform so it is also a requirement for choosing a token to buy. They must have a unique platform that helps people. These are what investors are looking for now.

In the past I often participated in the private sale stage in particular, but now it seems to be more profitable if I participate in IEO on well-known exchanges such as Binance. Projects that interested me are those who can create a new solution to be implemented in our daily lives and continue to make us use it, in other words in the future people can depend on the products they create. However, besides that which is only a concept, I also need tangible proof of the results of their hard work that has been made so far. Their activeness in providing routine updates is one thing that needs attention. Of course we as investors do not want to if they can only plan without doing further. And I always see the background of the team members working on the project, if they have had a lot of experience then my trust in them will also increase.

I will only conclude that before investing in any project you need to research every detail about the project, including the developer, TEAM, Partners, products, and the road map of the project. and it is important you do not use all your capital only for the same purpose, set aside to invest with the top cryptoqurrency in the market.

How about a working devs as well, once there is a working platform that would automatically mean that they have a working devs as well.
Actually its hard to find a project like that, because even if there are some who claim they have a working project but when the investors sees it doesn't have a great potential in the future, they would still not gonna invest.

If I am going to invest in a project presale, then I have confirmed that the project has been listed on a popular exchange and is in the order of the first exchanger on CMC, this is very convincing for me, for example the project has been listed on Binance, Kucoin, Huobi and another good market. So the developer before running the project, for me it is very important to register the project in a good trading market.

It is true that you said in your opinion in choosing the project, but currently doing so still get the project that ended in fraud because we know that investment in crypto currency at this time there is no institution that provides strong legal regulations for investment in currency. crypto money if fraud in investment there is a legal sanction in force of course fraud will be slightly reduced

The table has been turned there's no certainty of any criteria to hold investment and make it worth it. As an investor I prefer the platform and hype behind such project.

You're right . Any project needs to be carefully researched because in the crypto market there are many risks that you need to be concerned about during this time and if not careful, you will easily fail when investing. I always spend a lot of time to learn about the project I choose and I will first evaluate the community of the project because if people are active, it is definitely the project you should be more concerned about.

In one way or another, profit must be a top priority and if you feel dissatisfied then it is best to choose a safer solution when investing. Anyway it is unpredictable and it is best to calm down before start.

But, how many crypto platforms do you really use? Maybe exchange or lending platform? Do you see any other real use case? In 2017 there was a big boom and people invested in every utility tokens in ICO phase. But look how many tokens are now really used on these "working" platforms? And do we really need everything to be tokenized? Look at the reality, the result is that the whole altcoin market is 90% down.

projects give low prices for their coins and high bonuses at the presale stage because at this stage it is not yet clear what exchanges the project will be on. that would be too easy.

I have not invested in Presales. I am researching a lot and intend to invest because this project is very interesting. Do you intend to invest in Presales?

I find that research before investing is extremely important. I researched the research project on the members of that project carefully before making a decision. do you do like me

because of the greater risk and less interest from investors, because it is uncertain, it is also natural for those who give money in the beginning and believe in getting better bonuses and prices. but to be more clear and certain to invest in projects that already have cooperation with exchanges will be more attractive to investors.

Your questions are extremely good. I just invested in Presales not long ago. I do a lot of research both on the members and the size of the project. with other projects I also carefully follow the same.

As an investor, you really do need adequate research than mere speculation from people, as an investor, if you keep listing to people and keep expecting predictions or calls from people you may end up failing inside pit yourself but a carefully personal research will really Sid you the stress of heartbreak as you are checking it yourself and bring more careful with your investments. In crypto do not go by I heard, go by I saw and with this step, you will not lack anything.

as investors work with use of customs of resource on possession the release gives with one on limit of exchange as one with least as investor keeps as securing resource to moves as fine on higher with returns on extensive terms as collecting with use of results on difference to complete within terms of plan.

With the passage of time,  changes are taking place faster than what most of us can cope up with. People who involved into some project during the presale era, no doubt faced some painful loss due to the decrement that occurred afterwards.  For me, team is the most important and there should be some trailer of the product in the beta form. That helps in clearing away few doubts. Community is also important.

i dont invest in presales

there is no perfect coin, but what makes a coin good in my opinion is when the coin represents some movement and not only a "product"

for example Bitcoin represents the crypto currency movement since its the first coin
Zcash represents the ZKsnarks movement - next year ethereum, tron and ethereum classic will use zcash features on their platform
and other projects will follow.. because zksnarks is great tech.
Ethereum classic is also a movement

projects like this are great

that's right while investing money one must do research for a specific project by his own because self-research is very important for finding a good project, it will provide the experience, but it is not bad to get other people's opinion as it provide a lot of ideas and suggestion to the investor who is beginner, so i think following both will give a good way to find a good project.

I really like your points, throughout my experience as a crypto enthusiast, I've only invested in two pre-sales and way back it was profitable. Nowadays IEO is the new craze, although getting in IEO on big reputable exchanges like Binance isn't so easy, especially for new crypto enthusiasts. Honestly I prefer investing in projects when the team is proven reliable and capable to run the project properly,  most importantly managing funds  and focusing more on project development.

First of all, I look at the idea. It is necessary to take into account how many competitors already have this project on the market. Then I look at the team developing the project.

A quick look and simple sanity may be enough to determine a worthy crypto project. You always need to understand what exactly you get by buying someone else's coins, and how the final product will look. Of course, not all investments in crypto projects will bring high returns, but if you can positively answer these five questions regarding a certain project, the chances of success will seriously increase:

-Are all the goals and specifications described in the White Paper?
-Are the goals of the project realistic?
-Does the team have a positive reputation in the blockchain world?
-Does the project have a realistic roadmap?
-Will tokens have any value after the ICO?

You're right. IEO investment needs to choose large exchanges like Binance because this is often the place where there are many good IEO projects for everyone involved. In fact, IEO projects are just startup projects and need a large amount of money to develop so investors will face many risks in investment. I always think many times before making a decision and considering a specific amount to participate.

In the crypto market everything can happen so trust should only stop for a short time because if the project stops updating then surely people will forget about what happened.

I do not invest in Presales. I did a thorough study of the machine leader and how it operates. I think high profits are what make projects interesting

As an investor who wants to make a safe investment, I think its better to invest in a workable project with products. Also, A project with an active team ends up successful. Investors especially are most liable to getting scammed. Always DYOR on any project before investing.

Most of investors in presale are those who satisfied with the whitepaper. And most of the investors of mid sale are those who observe the hype.
If you want to have a safe investment, buy during mid sale but note of this, you can grab many tokens in pre sales than mid until the last phase of ICO.

For the time being, I avoid investing in new projects or presales despite giving a large bonus. The number of scam new projects has made many investors traumatized and in my opinion it is safer to invest in coins that have been traded on exchangers, especially coins in the top 50