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Win Big at the Races!

So, you want to be a punter?  Welcome to the Sport of Kings!  The wonderful game where fortunes can be made overnight if you know the right stuff.  Fortunes bigger than that last great IPO you missed.  Fortunes which can be unlocked to you if you only know how to pick winners.  This is the key.  You can't pick winners if you don't have a system.  The first thing any smart man should know is that he doesn't know everything.  He must study all he can get his hands on and learn more about whichever avenue he ventures down.  Doctors, scientists, and engineers go to school for many years and spend lots of money to learn their professions.  Why shouldn't the man who is trying to make money at the track do the same thing also?  Many people think picking winners on a continual basis cannot be done, but the fact of the matter is that it CAN be done! And, it IS done all over the world by certain individuals who have developed a system!  Most of these systems are never offered to the public because of their immense value.  I have spent many years at the race track studying all aspects of this sport and many different systems.  I have seen fortunes won and fortunes lost.  Men without a tried and true system will bet on every single horse in every race and expect to win.  Of course, they wouldn't bet if they didn't expect to win.  Out of all the horses run in a season less than half of them ever won a single race!  The majority of the rest of them failed to even place in the top three!  Yet, the common man bets on them all expecting a result which was impossible.  Surely, YOU can see how foolish such a man is.  The man who allocates capital without a plan is a man who is destined to lose it.  Do NOT be this man!  But, the man who studies and has a system reaps the benefits of his hard work!  And reap the benefits, he can GREATLY!

Below are examples of payouts to winners at the Hong Kong racecourses:

Happy Valley - Race 3 - "Gwangju Handicap" - 2019/04/24 ($10 HKD Bet)
Winner - 6 Enjoyable Success = $35
Quinella - 6 Enjoyable Success & 5 Golden Cannon = $235.50
Tierce - 6 Enjoyable Success, 5 Golden Cannon, & 3 Megatron = $3,391
Quartet - 6 Enjoyable Success, 5 Golden Cannon, 3 Megatron, & Romantic Journey = $148,292

Sha Tin - Race 9 - "Fwd Insurance Growth Handicap" - 2019/04/28 ($10 HKD Bet)
Winner - 10 Solar Wai Wai = $130
Quinella - 10 Solar Wai Wai & 11 Craig's Star = $392
Tierce - 10 Solar Wai Wai, 11 Craig's Star, & 9 Super Star = $3,746
Quartet - 10 Solar Wai Wai, 11 Craig's Star, 9 Super Star, & 12 Mighty Maverick = $70,465

Happy Valley - Race 8 - "Hung Hom Handicap" - 2019/05/01 ($10 HKD Bet)
Winner - 3 Arcada = $47
Quinella - 3 Arcada & 10 Vigor Fame = $338
Tierce - 3 Arcada, 10 Vigor Fame, & 6 Jolly Honour = $16,387
Quartet - 3 Arcada, 10 Vigor Fame, 6 Jolly Honour, & 9 Perfect Pair = $294,499
Six Up - 1 Jolly Convergence/11 Gentry/3 Prance Dragon/1 Green Luck/2 Perfect Glory/3 Arcada = $1,792,307!

Sha Tin - Race 8 - "The Arculli Trophy (Handicap)" - 2019/05/05 ($10 HKD Bet)
Winner - 9 Multimillion = $48.50
Quinella - 9 Multimillion & 12 Diamond King = $346
Tierce - 9 Multimillion, 12 Diamond King, & 3 Mr Lumieres = $5,418
Quartet - 9 Multimillion, 12 Diamond King, 3 Mr Lumieres, & 1 Hello Beauty = $119,639

As you can see, the races can provide quite a lucrative income to those who know how to play them.  Picking winners is NOT simply about luck.  It boils down to mathematics and winners can be selected with scientific precision.  I spent many years and even more dollars trying to figure out the science behind choosing the winner.  I have mastered a method based on sound scientific principles which allows for any man to pick the winning horse 40% of the time!  Even the average joe can see that a forty percent win rate will net him quite the proceeds over time, especially if he compounds them!

Assuming ten races per day & an average of 3-1 Odds:
Day 1 - $100 Bet = Won $120 + Lost -$60 = Total $160
Day 2 - $200 Bet = Won $240 + Lost -$120 = Total $320
Day 3 - $300 Bet = Won $360 + Lost -$180 = Total $480
Day 4 - $400 Bet = Won $480 + Lost -$240 = Total $640
Day 5 - $500 Bet = Won $600 + Lost -$300 = Total $800
Day 6 - $600 Bet = Won $720 + Lost -$360 = Total $960
Day 7 - $700 Bet = Won $840 + Lost -$420 = Total $1120
Day 8 - $800 Bet = Won $960 + Lost -$480 = Total $1280
Day 9 - $900 Bet = Won $1080 + Lost -$540 = Total $1440
Day 10 - $1000 Bet = Won $1200 + Lost -$600 = Total $1600

Daily Profit Return = 60%!

This is not including betting on exotics like the Quinella, Tierce, Quartet, Doubles, Trios, Double Trios, Six Ups!  With those bets advantageously placed, you can increase your returns ASTRONOMICALLY.  If a Tierce returns on average $4000, you can place several bets at $10 and still come out smelling like a rose provided you use a scientific method for deducing the winning horse!

The scientific system for picking winners that I have developed has been personally written into code by me.  It uses the previous races information and other proprietary methods to deduce the winners.  It can be used for any racecourse in the world, besides Hong Kong's Sha Tin and Happy Valley, provided you enter in the horse information.  I have pre-populated the database the program uses for Hong Kong's previous seasons.  The database is being brought up-to-date for the upcoming 2019/2020 Hong Kong racing season.  Hong Kong was chosen due to the locale and the massive amount of money that it draws in the parimutuels.

I am currently accepting a select number of students who want to learn how to pick winners scientifically.  They will receive the my program at the start of the 2019/2020 Hong Kong racing season (end of summer), a manual describing the inter-workings of the program and scientific system, and myself as a personal tutor for them.  It is in my best interest to see all my students succeed.  Any man with average intelligence can use this system.  If you have not played the races before, do not be intimidated!  It is EASY & FUN!  It can be done from the leisure of your own home at the computer.  You need not even travel to the racecourse.  Races in Hong Kong (or elsewhere) can be bet on anywhere in the world!

Price of my computerized scientific system to pick winners and tutoring is $4000 HKD (0.065 BTC).  Depending on interest, I might raise the price.  The knowledge and potential given to the student is worth many, many times this price.

Send in your BTC to reserve your spot today.  My BTC address is 16pZfRWHFycZL2PSsUZsvwTCfubVPsvw39

Do NOT let this opportunity pass you by!  I will ONLY be accepting a certain number of students.  This is a once in a lifetime opportunity being offered to a select lucky few.  Change your future!

WOw! a newbie that is able to make money without effort!
So you're able to earn around a Daily Profit Return = 60%
And are ready to help and share this success with perfect strangers on the web just for few bucks :D ?

I think that is crazy share this opportunity and not use only your self (eventually if it's true).
Try to post in advance some betting ;) and lets see if you're lucky enough ;)

You have written a voluminous page that I don't think is good in the eyes to quote. I however like you admonition on taking the pain, stress and finance to learn but if you are not the original writer, it will be better for you to provide its link.

For your idea on the gambling, you won't expect that you will be taken seriously as you are a newbie.

This is absolutely hilarious. GloriousWin? Really? Lets all gloriously win money and retire with millions of dollars thanks to a guaranteed return of 40% every single day. Damn.

May I ask which ponzi site you are thinking of replicating here op? Absolute stupidity indeed.

It's too good to be true and it sounds like you're endorsing or promoting a site here. You're offering to much and it's impossible to believe because aside from your rank, you didn't even show any piece of proof. To tell you honestly, no gambling game or Ponzi scheme could change your future unless you work for what you want.

Thanks for the question becasue merely looking at OP write-ups, one could see the possibility of a ponzi scheme or site that could afford such. If actually OP made such progress on his/her bets, he/she could have afford a copper membership account, and not a Newbie with unquestionable profits returns. The family could have be the first to know about this good returns, why here with such bogus profits?. Oh!! we are wiser now mate.

Gambling is not place to grow your life or become a billionaire. Please note that we need to have the patience and idea on concern games to make money in this field. If you are good at foot ball prediction and analysis.
I am sure you will be able to make money on this game.

Kindly take the oppurtunity in best way, if you do not have idea on game. You may stay away.

Stuff like this comes up every other week around here, essentially the same as people selling calls and trading lessons in other sections in this forum in the sense that the same underlying message of fast, easy money is presented. If these methods are truly so good, the seller would just use whatever method(s) he has for his own good. Use your common sense, folks. It's your own duty here to determine whether or not something is a scam here, and if you just think a little bit you'll know in a few seconds whether a good or service is or isn't legit.

Just be careful with these kind of site from a Newbie offering his services
Unless I see another person who can vouch for this Race it is best to avoid

Thank you.

I am the original creator of this program.  The scientific method for picking winners is based on the fact that horses commonly get assigned weights by the handicapper which do not properly reflect their odds.

I am not a "newbie" to BitcoinTalk.  In fact, I have been a member of this forum since BTC was $10, and I have a legendary account.  I created this account because I wanted some anonymity.  People will believe what they want to believe.  You cannot change that.


The words "gambling" and "investing" are synonymous.  Both ventured into without heed leads to losses, but if you study and take calculated risks, you can profit greatly.  I have myself made tens of millions of HKD "gambling" on IPOs and BTC.  It greatly grew my capital and changed my life for the better.  Do not disparage the fine art of "gambling", and please do try to convince others that BTC or any other "investment" is not a "gamble".


Yes, I liked my new name too.  I thought it was quite creative.  I never said every single day.  If you knew anything about the HKJC (Hong Kong Jockey Club), you would only know that they had meets twice a week.

This is definitely not a ponzi.  Your money never leaves your hands, and you place your bets yourself.  If you do not know how to do such, I will teach you, but I will not do it for you.

I have been around this forum long enough and seen enough scams (and been scammed myself a few times from some pretty convincing ones), that if I wanted to scam you, I could certainly come up with something better than this and it would be for a lot more than 4000 HKD.

I do appreciate you trying to warn others of potential scams.  I have done so myself many times on my other BTC account, but this is not one of them.

To satisfy the requests of interested parties, I am posting some brief information regarding the meet that is running at Sha Tin this afternoon.  Post time is 1PM.  There are ten races being run today.

You will find the race card here at this address - https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/content/PDF/RaceCard/20190518_starter_all.pdf (https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/content/PDF/RaceCard/20190518_starter_all.pdf)

You can listen to the live broadcast of the races at this address - https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/english/showcase/live.asp (https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/english/showcase/live.asp)

Race replays are located at this address - https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/english/showcase/showcase.asp (https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/english/showcase/showcase.asp)

On to today's race forecast:

Today at Sha Tin, it should prove a day in which many of the races are won by horses with medium odds (~ 4-1).  Two or three races should be won by horse number 8 provided that he is a fluke (running at odds 8-1 against).  One race will be won with by a well-backed (not a favourite) horse bearing the number 2.  Horse number 8 in this race also has a strong chance of winning provided he is also well-backed.  It is possible that this race would make a good quinella play in addition to win tickets.  Another race will be won by a fluke horse being a medium weight (not a top weight and not a bottom weight).

This is not the entirety of my system, but a glimpse into some of the races.  Notice that I intentionally left out the numbers of the races in which the said results would develop.

Betting on fluke horses is a sure way to increase your capital provided you know the true handicapping metrics of the horses.  A fluke horse will appear a loser to the masses, but the horse's inaccurate weight assigned to him by the handicapper will make him an overlooked winner.  It is much better to identify these horse and bet on them as opposed to betting on favorites as your dividends will be much greater compared to your risk.

Really a guarantee way to retired a millionaire are you kidding me because this is a gaming platform where any thing can happen and there is no assurance of what will happen in the cost of playing. But luck is the only way to become the race winner.

That is what most people think, but the reality is that winning at the races is 25% luck and 75% mathematics.

Nah, horse racing is just like any other form of gambling out there, it will be very difficult to win. Although you can have your analysis of every horse, most of the time it's unpredictable. I've been betting in horse races as well, local to my country, but so far I would say that I haven't hit a big windfall because sometimes jockeys and horse owners connived, on who is going to win, or if they will deliberately lost a race, just saying.

I think horse racing is just pure luck and based on the recent performance of the horse. Personally i never bet on horse racing but i had a friend who really into horse racing.


Hmm, 25% luck and 75% mathematics? Lol no way man.

You should look into playing the horses.  The nice thing about horse racing is that there is no "house" involved and it will always be around.  It existed in ancient Roman times and 2000 years later it is still alive and thriving.  If you master the science of wagering on horses, you can make money anywhere in the world and regardless of the economic conditions.  It is a recession proof venture.  The worse times are the more money is wagered.

Wagering on horses, like any "gamble" or "investment", can be hedged.  This is done via mathematics and formulas.  Your view point is a very common one and shared with ~90% of all bettors.  The fact of the matter is though that 10% beat the races and YOU can too.  You have to have a system though and go about it in a mathematical and scientific way to ensure success.  If you have never bet on races before, you will be even better assisted with such a system, because you will not have developed bad habits that will cloud your view (like taking "tips" or "hunches").

Here is a fellow named "Pittsburgh Phil" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._Smith_(gambler)) who was a professional horse bettor.


At the end of "Pittsburgh Phil's" life in 1905, he had made over $3M USD (which would be $90M USD today).  He passed away at the age of 42.  He did so without the aid of a computer program and without the benefit of being able to bet from home.  Something to think about...

You are correct in stating that some horse races are rigged.  Unfortunately though, you have con men, swindlers, and cheaters in every business.  It is just a part of life and has to be dealt with.  While the jockeys, trainers, and owners can all try to rig the race, the horse cannot.  Horses do not lie or connive amongst themselves.  Horses only know one thing, and that is to run as fast as it possibly can.  This insomuch makes horse racing somewhat immune to the personal whims and fancies of the unscrupulous human members.  I would say that the mass majority of the horse races are not rigged.  There is too much money at stake for the clubs to allow racing to develop a bad reputation.  They certainly don't want people to have a bad opinion of races and they don't want to run afoul of the local politicians and get banned.  I would wager to say that the stock markets are more rigged than horse racing.  I know of many asses running the stock market, but I have never seen an ass run a horse race.

This dude is really funny, even from your name - Glorious Win. That doesn't convince me at all. The funny thing about this forum is that I hardly see those with higher ranks talk about things like this. It's only newbies that claims to have all the wisdom in the world. So you've been making all these money from betting on horse races, why not keep the strategy to yourself and use it to make millions instead of looking for those you're going to rip off with your so called betting strategy. If your strategy is true then let's do a taste.

Glorious! Glorious! Well, it is really glorious to the eye indeed every win you got in a day, And by every win, you are always winning it to the point you are already successful in race bets like this, But even if you are really winning it big many in the forum would not surely believe it because we all know gambling is unpredictable and have a risk and you win it all in only 10 days would surely not convince us, But still it is always welcome to post it here that you have experienced something like these.

Thank you.  Laughter makes the heart grow younger.


As I said previously, I have another Bitcointalk account and have been a member since 2013.  I have conversed with numerous members of this forum for years, but not on this subject.  I created a new account for anonymity's sake.  The doubtful always claim that it is a "scam".  Why do those who create successful cryptocurrencies sell stakes for pennies?  Why would someone spend 10,000 BTC on a pizza?


You are right.  Nothing in life is a "sure thing".  There is unpredictability in all facets of life.

I think that no one can win in a scientific way in a game where you don't control anything.Betting on horse races has no clear pattern and is one of the most difficult to predict.There are people who corrupt the races for their own benefit and make a heavy underdog win the race, in this case is an example of you having no control on the outcome of the event.

Your account name is a good horse name indeed. ;D.  I also have some betting experience in horse racing, but then again, it is difficult as other may have thought. Yes, it's so simple you either have to choose the winner, who will place second or third. But that is not that simple though. There's the big factor, the jockeys, if the horse is good but if the jockey doesn't want to push the horse to win then you will be just disappointed on your bets.

Betting on horse race is one of the most popular bets world wide. Although the outcome of the result is difficult to predict yet many people bet on their favorite horses.
Same like in horse reach betting, in most cases, if a underdog horse or team wins, most likely this is done to earn a lot of money for big gamblers and rekt the rest of the gamblers who will definitely chose the more powerful horse or team.

OP why are you selling such a moneymaker?

Your post looks so convincing but you're are newbie unfortunately.
There is a reason why members don't post stuff like this with their real/valuable forum accounts... because strategies like this are outright scam or they are not sure about what they claim they can do.
Use an old clean account that you actually own If you want to be taken seriously

And that is exactly my point. You said in your post:

"Daily Profit Return = 60%!"

How can you get that returns if there is a possibility of the race being rigged? Of course we wanted to see some long shot horse win, but most of the time, those horse owners and jockeys with the collusion with other managers and jockeys will make a long shot horse won, but it's really really hard to know because it's only known within their circles.

This certainly happened in this year's Kentucky Derby, but it is not the normal.


Wise observation.  My account name was derived from the combination of two horse names run in Hong Kong this year.


There are some jockeys who do this at the behest of the owners.  Can anyone predict the winner of a horse race 100% of the time?  No, of course not.  You can though increase your chances of winning by using certain mathematical probabilities which hold true for a great deal of the races run.


The common man makes the rookie mistake of betting on horses with low odds (aka the favorite).  You will never amass fortune by following the common man.


Why not?  If I sell it, I still retain it for my own use.  Most people do not want to believe that such a feat is possible and therefore outright dismiss the possibility.  This is attributed to their closed-mindedness and peer influence.  It is the rare man who can see the jewel in the rough.


Did Satoshi use a legendary account?  Did BCNext?  I am following in the footsteps of the original ideologues of this forum.  It is not my job to convince you.  You must come to that conclusion yourself.


Not all the races are rigged.  It is much easier to rig a football game than a horse race.  All the football players speak a human language and can be bribed.  You cannot bribe a horse or converse with him.  He is an animal with animal instincts.  How often do you see horses doing what they want regardless of the jockey?  How many times do they throw the jockey, get restless at the gates, or injure themselves?  Is this at the behest of the jockey, trainer, or owner?  Surely not.  It is the horse who most of the time calls the shots.

I will be posting my recommendations for the Hong Kong Happy Valley meet coming this Wednesday night, 2019 May 22 at 7:15 PM, for those who would like to see an insight into my methods.

There is more to being successful at the track than just picking the winner.  Capital management has the ability to turn a losing strategy into a winning one and low profits into big profits.  I have a capital management (bet allocation) system which does just that.  You must have the fortitude to stay out of a race when the odds are too low and follow the rules for it to work.  Most professional handicappers only have a win rate of 25-30% and a fair number of the horses they select have low odds (because they are favourites).  Even using their selections, this capital management system will show a good profit.

could you please tell us the time you mean with May 22 at 7:15 PM? is it forum time or ...........

thanks

True thing! If these things does really exist even myself wont tend out to share it up and would decide to spoil publicly and make myself rich.
Imagine 60% profits guaranteed which can really make you rich in a short duration of time.Even with just using your own common sense thing
you would able to spot out directly that this is just a total fraud.

The "post time" (time of the start of the first race) is 7:15 PM HKT (Hong Kong Time UTC+8).  If you are in Britain, it is 12:15 PM BST (British Summer Time UTC+1) on May 22.  If you are in US, it is 7:15 AM EDT (Eastern Daylight Time UTC-4) on May 22.

Here is the race card (https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/Info/meeting/RaceCard/english/).

This perception is why it is safe for me to share this with a few select people.  Most people do not believe such a feat is possible.  The ones who take the risk get the most gain.  Let he who has the perception to judge, decide his fate.

Additionally, each race in Hong Kong has tens of millions of dollars bet on each one.  There are typically around twenty races a week.  This adds up to a lot of money in the pools.  Teaching a few people this methodology won't affect the odds (aka profitability).

"Not all the races are rigged.  It is much easier to rig a football game than a horse race.  All the football players speak a human language and can be bribed.  You cannot bribe a horse or converse with him.  He is an animal with animal instincts.  How often do you see horses doing what they want regardless of the jockey?  How many times do they throw the jockey, get restless at the gates, or injure themselves?  Is this at the behest of the jockey, trainer, or owner?  Surely not.  It is the horse who most of the time calls the shots."


Right, but the thing is, the jockey still handle them 100% when they're running, you can even do anything that will influence their run, i.e. overfeed them or or over water them before a race. Or the jockey will not push the horse during a race just riding him casually or if he feels that the horse is ready to go, he will either tighten up or loosen his grip on the horse. So "it's not the horse who most of the time calls the shots."

Their cant be much pattern in the horse race as its not a mechanic machine which gives any random numbers. Its a living being and anything can happen when the human and living being are involved unless and untill it is fixed.

My experience is that most horses try their utmost to take the lead and win regardless of the jockey.  I know some punters take the jockey and trainer into account when they do their figures, but I don't.  I do agree with you that jockeys, trainers, and owners can do things to upset the horse and spoil his chances for winning.  Even handlers at the gates can do so.  Look at Bodexpress in this year's Preakness Stakes.  (The handler at the gate held on to him after the start and caused him to throw his jockey.)  Whether that was intentional or accidental, we will never know.

I don't advise anyone to enter into any investment or gamble if they believe it is not honest.  Why bet money on something you believe to be rigged?  In my personal opinion, I think the majority of the races are conducted without foul play.  I wouldn't be doing this if I thought otherwise.

OP. Here is what you do. You open a new thread and post your scientific methods, and then show us your picks. You don't even need to show the maths behind it, no need for the calculations, just show us the results of the method, which is your picks. Then, don't forget to attach betslips so we know you're an actual betting guy and not just a tipster who sells tips.

Let the results speak for themselves. I'd love to see your 10 turn into 4000.

There is no need to start a new thread.  Should I charge more once I reveal the results of my analysis as per the logic of "Less Risk, Less Reward"?

Tonight's races at Happy Valley will be dominated by favorites winning.  Very few flukes or moderately backed horses will win.  If you go and bet on favorites tonight, you should do well.

Here is the race card (https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/content/PDF/RaceCard/20190522_starter_all.pdf).

Post time is at 7:15 PM Hong Kong Time (UTC+8).

Hi but you are not able to provide some bets?
Because it seems that you're providing only vague informations about these races.

What is the incentive to learn if I provide you with all the answers?

he did not ask for explanations, he asked you to give us some real bets you do
for example today? but before the race  ;D

Hi JackpotRacer :) how are you ;) ?

GloriousWin, your open post was related 60% of ROI (DAILY).
So why not provide some bets EARLY? Before the race? Just to test your version if it's true or you're the number X (infinite) that has provided a scam relating betting discussion.

If you are not able to provide these information, or you want already waste time, you will be considered as a Scammer.

The post looks like the OP is paid to copy paste a site without putting any links. 60% winning rate daily is horribly big and an indication its a scam. Greedy people will get lured into it easily because thats a huge amount of return. I am thinking that the site is already on loss because of this one if this is true.

There is no "site" and there will never be any "site".  This is an opportunity to be taught a system.  I'm only going to teach a select number of students and share my ways with them.  So far, no one has taken me up on my offer.  Not that I am surprised... pearls before swine.

There are ways to make a lot of money in the races, but the mass majority will continue to bet in ignorance and lose their money.

I will be posting some clues for Sunday's race at Sha Tin.  Post time is 12:30 pm (HKT UTC+8).  The prudent person would do well to analyze these hints.  I will not offer this forever, and I contemplated not posting anything else.  Consider this an experiment in human psychology.

Sure 60% a day on horse racing no problem
Select just three horses 7/1 each get triple and boom
or select one 50/1 any problem easy money
It is additional stream of income in UK tax free
It that is so easy then why there are not lamborghini punters yet
It is hard job two hours three hours work minimum and even that luck can be against you
Yes all that OP post is just copy and past

how about telling us the real reason why you are doing this? thanks

Why has Satoshi never sold a Bitcoin?  Why did BCNext not take a stake?  Why am I teaching my system?

All questions for the ages.

thank you very much for the detailed and frank answer. now we know why and that gives us big trust in you

best of luck

12:30 PM Hong Kong Time to Local Time  =  6.30 AM Europe CEST Time

You have already missed your first easy appointment here.
and/or a waste of time, another scam attempt.

The "first appointment" was a week ago.

I got preoccupied with my some business of my own.  There will be another race day this Wednesday night.  Do not fret.

If you believe this is a "scam attempt", why are you checking this thread?  There must be some question in your mind.  It is an interesting thing...  For a gambling forum, very few are willing to consider taking a risk.  Even a small one.

what risk are you talking about? what did I miss?

Nice try OP to visualize the possible profit to earn on playing races. You might guess it right OP but mind you that this typr of game is basing on luck. Well the good thing is that not all times that a gambler will be losing. there will come a time that a gambler will had his/her day to be lucky. This is why many have come to try their luck but only few people that could win that much in a group.

So, if a gambler plays on it the best thing to do is to feel the presence of being lucky. This will help one out to get the luck needed in gambling. LOL (I have tried it and work sometimes)

You have not posted 1 (one) bets before the race!
I will post some clues for SUNDAY and bla bla bla bla.... it's pretty obviously that if you post any bet you can achieve only a -60% ROI and not +60% !!
 

Yes, I have.


if you are getting -60% ROI, you obviously aren't using a capital management system to negate your bad picks.

Yes, there some luck involved, but a good part is mathematics and selectively allocating your capital.  Racing is no different than investing.

It is good advice to believe you will succeed.  Success starts first in your mind.

Mathematics ?  How ? You mean the odds or the probability of winning ? Or the capital/cash  . Gambling has a numbers and numbers are related to mathematics ?  Hmmm  ....

Racing can be used for gambling and gambling is simillar to investing and trading because all of them have risks but gambling is more risky but the odds of winning on them is to high compare to other forms of risky activities .

But your right . We still must believe on our self no matter what.

LOL :D  Sorry I missed your post, since these are not predictions!
If you call this a "prediction" you are a real scammer :D

Let's analyze your "prediction" at Sha Tin (10 races in a day!) (your message quoted)

- many of the races are won by horses with medium odds (~ 4-1).

WOW ! what amazing prediction! IT's a generic prediction that doesn't mean anything.
There are 10 races, it's easy get some.... you haven't provided any indication.

- two or three races should be won by horse number 8 provided that he is a fluke (running at odds 8-1 against).
- One race will be won with by a well-backed (not a favourite) horse bearing the number 2.
WICH RACES????? There are 10 races in the same day :D

Here there is a specific prediction (at least one horse with number 2 that can win a race).
RESULTS?  No one bearing number 2 won a race during this day! (LOL!)

- Horse number 8 in this race also has a strong chance of winning provided he is also well-backed.
As usually generic number :D , and a generic race :D ...
No one horse bearing number 8 has get a placement (1-3) on 10 races.
Another clear proof that you're a scammer.

-Another race will be won by a fluke horse being a medium weight (not a top weight and not a bottom weight).
No come one, it's enough.

https://www.attheraces.com/racecards/Sha-Tin/18-May-2019

Do you honestly expect me to share my system for free?  Of course I added ambiguity to it.  I do not claim that my system is correct 100% of the time.  Even the best handicappers are only right 25-30% of the time.  If you use a capital management system, you should produce good results.

Mathematics has a factor in both your betting selection and in determining the amount of money to bet.  Horses are routinely given "incorrect" weights by the handicapper.  Sometimes, a horse will get assigned a weight that is too heavy based on its past performance which will hinder it in future races.  Sometimes, a horse will get assigned a weight that is light in comparison to it past performance.  By identifying these differences between the "true handicap" and the "rated handicap", you can better determine which horses have a better chance at winning.

There is also the factor of capital allocation.  You can have a selection process which only picks 20-25% of the winners and if you are using a well structured capital allocation system, you will still profit.  It is the theory of calculated risks and not over betting.

last time I asked you why are you doing this and you answered as always bla bla

finally you are saying
Do you honestly expect me to share my system for free?

my next question
how much does it cost? please explain in details

Despite you added "ambiguity" no one bet was a winning one!
You wrong even all casual and generic bets/predictions! In 10 Races!
It's really hard get this bad score... 0 valid predictions!!!

And yes also with a "management system" 100% wrong predictions are 100% wrong predictions

What you are saying is simply not true.

I said two or three races would be won by horse number 8.  Races 5 and 8 were won by horse number 8 (London Hall and High Volatility).  Also, horse number 2 placed second in many races.

The price is 0.065 BTC.  Details are provided in the OP.

The reason I am offering this is because I want to provide others with a winning system.  It is a great deal for those who are interested.

Since you like comment your bets, why you have counted all wrong prediction provided?

- many of the races are won by horses with medium odds (~ 4-1).
GENERIC BET for 10 EVENTS
- two or three races should be won by horse number 8 provided that he is a fluke (running at odds 8-1 against).
You catch only 1!
- One race will be won with by a well-backed (not a favourite) horse bearing the number 2.
WRONG
- Horse number 8 in this race also has a strong chance of winning provided he is also well-backed.
WRONG
-Another race will be won by a fluke horse being a medium weight (not a top weight and not a bottom weight).
GENERIC BET for 10 EVENTS

Ok you have catch 1 bet! With a list of indefinite loses despite you placed bogus and shady prediction
It was really hard lose with that rate!
 :D Awesome!

As I stated previously, you are not operating with the full system.

There will always be those who nay say others especially when it comes to the emotionally charged venue of gambling / investing.  I would recommend that you stay around to for some good advice, but it seems that you have already decided that winning at the races is an impossibility.  It is not.  Many a fortunes have been made at the track.

what kind of fortune did you do with your strategy?

0.065 sounds very cheap if it is a one payment. how long will the lesson be? why don't you take bitbollo and give him a free one and he will vouch for you. if he will vouch for you I am in

I have won close to 3 btc just from betting competition.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256522.0
I don't need good advice, I will provide good advice :D .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0

Many have made a fortune, but I am pretty sure with 0,065 btc people are just buying casual/generic predictions that doesn't provide any real advantage.

It is very cheap.  It is honestly a great deal.  Pearls before swine as they say...

I am going to be raising the price and changing some of the lesson to make it more easily implemented by the user.  It is not a "simple" system or everyone would be doing it, but it can be mastered by any man of average intelligence.  It just takes dedication and hard work.  I am more than willing to help anyone who truly wants to learn, and I only want happy students.

This is not a tip service.  Anyone advertise such is not being genuine.  This is a system of play that enables you to win at the races long after I am no longer around.  The goal is not to be dependent on me, but to master the system well enough that you can implement it on your own.  I will be more than happy to help the student as long as they are willing to learn.  Trust me when I tell you that you will be getting your BTCs worth.  I will not be giving "free" lessons away.  Especially not to individuals like Bitbollo who disparage something they know nothing about.


I'm glad you were lucky enough to make 3 BTC.  What you are using is luck and not mathematics.  Math lasts forever.  Luck eventually runs out.

again an unsatisfying answer. saying that bitbollo is not qualified is also a joke. but ok try another legendary user here so he can vouch for you.
or is it because @bitbollo gave you red trust? I can tell you that he is absolutely trustable user. your answers are asking for red trust.

how about to try it again from scratch, just think about it

There is no perfect things when one saying predictions. From the word itself simplifies that prediction may going to happen or not. Besides, 25-30% prediction rate of chances that could happen is very short. And many users here can create their own system. A simple prediction will do with available reources for betting on when to bet high and low.

If sharing the system here will not.going to happen then so be it.  Even if I do gamble in races I will still use my own decision making basing on own research with regard to the game.

It is a perfectly fine answer. I don't care that Bitbollo gave me "red" trust.  It is unfounded.  He has no idea if my system is legit or not.  He is guessing and guessing incorrectly.  Some things are scams and some things are not.  You have to take a "gamble" to figure it out.  The reality is that NOTHING in life is a sure thing.  It is funny that such an "avid" gambler is opposed to taking such a small risk.  Especially one with such a large reward if true.

this is your last answer and I highlighted your scam in red. (no one need to give you any proof, it is you to give us proof if you are legit)

It is a perfectly fine answer. I don't care that Bitbollo gave me "red" trust.  It is unfounded.  He has no idea if my system is legit or not.  He is guessing and guessing incorrectly.  Some things are scams and some things are not.  You have to take a "gamble" to figure it out.  The reality is that NOTHING in life is a sure thing.  It is funny that such an "avid" gambler is opposed to taking such a small risk.  Especially one with such a large reward if true.

p s
you are asking money for something you describe
......that one has to take a gamble
......small risk
......if true

The reality is, there are 3 sure things in life. Death, taxes and my sports bets lol. All jokes aside. I would go head to head with gloriouswin, put up your picks, i will put mine. Higest roi wins. Winner stays on the forum. Loser leaves. Lets work out the rules. Aight m8?

high 5 mate

merit given  ;D

I know that my system is legitimate.  It is the consumer that doesn't know if I am being honest or disingenuous.  For the consumer, it is a "gamble".  There are many gambles in life.  Going to "college" is a gamble.  You might not be employable afterwards and have lots of debt or wasted lots of money.  Buying a new car is a gamble for the car could turn out to be a lemon.  Purchasing bitcoin is a "gamble".  Bitcoin doesn't always go up.

Nothing is a sure thing.  In my opinion, my system is a pretty good risk.  For someone else, it might not be.  I do find it funny that such avid gamblers on here do not want to take a small risk.  How much of a true "gambler" can they be?


Why should I care if you stay on the forum or not?  Furthermore, if I utilized my full system, I would most assuredly beat you.  By beating you, the "risk" would go down and the "odds" and "price" of my system would go up.  The resulting price would be completely out of reach for most individuals.  I am already going to raise the price of my system.  JackpotRacer was right.  The price of my system (0.065 BTC) was too low.  I kept it low intentionally, because I wanted to offer those with less funds and more guts the opportunity.  It is like the mutuels payoffs.  The odds and the payouts go in tandem.  It costs more to get the same return as bettors pile onto the "sure" bet.  (Reality is there is no sure bet.)  It is not in my students favor to beat you and then raise my price to astronomical levels.  Let there be some chance to this game.  This might be the last chance my students make without the aid of sound mathematic principles.  Let's not take that away from them.

Price Increase

The cost of my system and lessons has now doubled.  The price is now:

0.13 BTC

Send in your BTC to reserve your spot today.  My BTC address is 16pZfRWHFycZL2PSsUZsvwTCfubVPsvw39

The price will keep increasing.  If you are interested, it is better to lock in your spot now than to wait.  If you cannot afford the full 0.13 BTC upfront, but want to lock in your spot, send me a message and I will work out an arrangement with you.  I am only going to take a certain number of students.  Don't let the opportunity to change your future pass you by.

only a scammer will ask
Send in your BTC to reserve your spot today. 

how about escrow

A gambler talking about escrow???  Where is the risk in that?

first of all I am not a gambler

please explain what you mean with
- what is the risk in that -

a punter who is interested in your strategy put the money you are asking for in escrow account and you put same money amount in escrow account, if you deliver you get your money and if you don't deliver the punter gets your money from the escrow. if you are sure about your strategy you can only win. you get the punter's money and you proved your strategy and more punters will be interested to get your strategy.

Win Win if you are sure about your strategy and you don't want to scam anyone

What are you doing posting in "Gambling Discussion" if you aren't a gambler?  Every punter (and investor for that matter) is a "gambler" including myself.  A calculated risk is still a "gamble".  As I said before nothing is a "sure thing".

If you are going to be a punter, you should be able to calculate your odds and put your money on the table.  There will never be any type of guarantee when you bet on a horse no matter the system used including mine.  My system simply reduces the chances of loss and allows the punter to allocate his capital properly to allow his wins to make up for his losses and come out with profit overall.  There is no such thing as "escrow" in horse racing.  If you are unwilling to make a bet with 0.13 BTC, then you will not succeed in horse racing.

your answers again and again shows us that you are a clown. you even don't know what an escrow is and what he is used for.

I am not a gambler yes not a gambler, even if I take a risk as a casino OP but at the end the HE prevails. same with your strategy if it would be profitable at the end of a year. it must be +EV easy as that

Why all the insults?  Looking at your "red trust" rating, it seems that you would be wise to live by the old saying, "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones."

I know what escrow is, but escrow will not be used.  It is very simple.  If you want to be a student, you pay me directly.  If not, then move on.  Since you "are not a gambler", I suggest you get off Bitcointalk and delete your account because everyone on Bitcointalk is a gambler.

welcome back clown  ;D

if you would take the time to check my red trust you would see who gave me the red trust. Scammers and bullshitters like you

btw there are many many non gamblers here on BCT. but how should you know? you are a newbee and clown = sadly

finally you are saying you know what an escrow is but you don't accept escrow LOL
a Scammer will never accept escrow. only a straight forward guy would accept escrow

If you have ever owned BTC, you are a gambler.  Try again.

How can someone with the name "JackpotRacer" not be a gambler?

As far as I know in gambling easy money doesn't exist & never will it but seeing the consistent profit margins you have posted...Could this be easy money ::)

Honestly this is too good to be true, why don't you share with us your bet slips to prove you are the real deal.

for example he could be a casino owner  ;D ;D ;D
and not a gambler!

You are a scammer GloriousWin,
because you have not provided any valid proof of your method or your winnings obtained and because you are PUMPING THE PRICE (DOUBLE x2) since you know very well your scam has been exposed and you can't scam more than 1 copy here.

You are not only a scammer but also a fake tipster, because you defined 13 prizes won in 8 competition as LUCK! :)

I think that win in each competition that I took part is not LUCK! Plus my bets are public, posted before.
Stop to discredit my gambling skill! It's an objective data my second position in "hall of fame".  
(look on this table you can find also other "famous" tipster ;) )

- You haven't posted any winning prediction. Only one attempted, already examined, FULL OF GENERIC AND WRONG BET! (it's harder get these score!)
- You are not able to provide a winning prediction!
- You are not able to discuss how it works.
- You are not able to prove any of your claims.
- Exposed with these faults, you have tried to discredit my evaluation and even my skills on this field.
- Price DOUBLED! The best answer for No valid prediction and a probable scam exposed.
- You don't accept escrow :D !!!

There is not to much to discuss here. You are a scammer without any valid tipster ability or any valuable method.
Your request is also a joke 0.125 btc :D LOL

You are still a "gambler".  What happened if no one came to your casino and you had to close?  You would have wasted your time and money on an unprofitable venture?  Business owners are gamblers too.


According to you, you only won 3 BTC.  That is pocket change, not a fortune... but, money is relative.  What is a lot to one is nothing to another.  My system will easily generate profits far exceeding 3 BTC if it is implemented correctly.  What we have here is a case of jealously and envy... Two angry and unsuccessful gamblers who do not want to see others succeed.  They disbelieve that anyone could gamble profitably using any system, because that would highlight their own failures.  It is really too bad.  They could turn around their misfortune and profit greatly, but they would prefer to see others wallow in their misery by losing and joining their misfortune.  Gambling can be an ugly disease.  I wouldn't recommend that anyone enter into it unless they have a proven system and have tested it on paper before they commit actual funds.

My Legendary account was created before yours and I have never scammed anyone, but that is a "gamble" a future student will have to make.  Nothing will be given away for free and there will be no escrow.  Escrow services are not infallible.

The price is now 0.13 BTC, and it will keep going up.  Please get it right.

General Predictions for Happy Valley 2019-06-05

Tonight if you bet on well-backed (~4-1 odds) and favourite horses, you should do well.  Fluke horses are not fit to win tonight in the majority of the races.  Although, there should be two races where horse number 2 or 9 will win being a fluke.  Be on the lookout for this.  The favourite horses that will win will be top and bottom weight horses.  The fluke horses that win will also be top or bottom weight horses.  Neglect the middle weight horses today in your bets.

So a change for your slogan: "you are not a good gambler" to "you won only 3 btc".

BTW...I won 3 btc ONLY from PRIZE!!!!! :D this is only a part of what I won, you can check (1) public address ;)

Nice so you have already a legendary account here? What's your username?Show it!
Why not post directly from there?
About escrow, you are in a phase of delirium.... I can understand your confusion "escrow is not infallible" :D
I don't know what it means, maybe it's infallible if you want scam some one.

Anyway thanks for your negative trust, very appreciated.  Note: I don't need to insult you or anyone, I don't fall to your level.

How you can define this a "prediction" is a big mistery:


WOW!!! There are 8 races today= your prediction is: favourite horses (how many=?!?) will win :D
Awesome! And you are selling this shit for 0,13?

Another generic prediction, but you know ;) this is easy to fall, to you add "majority of races"
Really you ask 0,13 btc for produce these predictions?

WHICH RACE?!?!?! You are claiming anything, there will be at least 1 horse that can win (at top or bottom of weight horses) today there are 8 races!!!!! (and most of time horses with top weight run without handicap so are already favourite!).



Aaaa great end :D Neglect the middle weight horses today in your bets.
You're shooting in the pile, as proofed before with your last prediction, you try to get the most large number of results (just to say .... I GET ONE!). The simple fact that even with these system you got only 1 valid prediction ......
Come on, people here are not stupid. Hence you are not the smartest guy around here that without any proof or history ask 0,13 btc.

- You should accept escrow
- You should provide free vouch copy of your method or your bets
(NOT THESE SHIT PREDICTION, but REAL VALUE, like: RUN1- WIN number XZY)

very well said @bitbollo

giving @bitbollo red trust reminds me of Moneypot scammers who gave me red trust because I shouted out their Scam first

you have only one chance here if you are legit

- You should accept escrow
- You should provide free vouch copy of your method or your bets
(NOT THESE SHIT PREDICTION, but REAL VALUE, like: RUN1- WIN number XZY)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5151156.0
I have opened a scam accusation against you GloriousWin.
I hope you can reply directly from your legendary account here on btctalk.