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Waves such a great coin it was, everyone was very optimistic about WAVES blockchain and it's DEX! There were many predictions that the price will be very high, WAVES will hit 50-100 USD, the top-ten coin, the competitor Of Ethereum and so on! But nowadays no one talks about it, no promotion, no speculation, nothing! Why did these changes happen? What do you think guys about it?

Not many talked much about waves, and I never seen it very promoted, I did hear it is a great project from few trustworthy sources that can understand code tho.

WAVES is one of the top 100 coinmarketcaps and also he has an interesting blockchain that even has a DEX market for their own network, what they are lacking in promotion, maybe because there is nothing new about their project that is being or wants to be developed so there is a lack of promotion like for example also making a campaign signature in this forum or others will attract many investors and new traders too for WAVES, but usually it will happen when the crypto market is really crazy like the previous year so they compete for promotions, I think WAVES will also make promotions withdraw later when the market is really crazy about ATH, lack of interest and people who hold little WAVES so there is no speculation and analysis, they should think about this too

The developers of waves are not involving to promote waves that's why the coin has been out of the track but it's not too late waves still can be established well if the developers take responsibility and promote the coin in many positive ways and it's really necessary otherwise this coin will loose its reputation.

A lot of alts come and go very quickly.

WAVES's hype came from its ICO initially but the development and hype around it did not sustain, it was as simple as that. There is virtually no use for their DEX which is why there is a lack of adoption, and when there is a lack of fundamentals it makes it hard for speculators to bet on it.

It could still make some short term sizable gains from pump and dumps, but honestly in the long run it has no apparent future.

from the source I heard, waves developers are not very friendly(language barrier?) toward other developers except russian developers.
not to mention the developers are not active in communicating with its supporters.

It's a very bad thing to hear about Waves developers team. I have some waves for a long time, and now when I saw this topic it's really like that, I don't remember when I saw something new about Waves, or heard some announcement from their team. If they plan to stay competitive they will need to try to find solutions for their language barriers (in case it's true what you heard) and work together on development. I will try to find some recent news about Waves, maybe I will find something interesting.

You are right, Waves has lack of promotion! There was a bounty campaign of WAVES years ago, otherwise, I haven't seen much promotion or developments in Waves chain! Maybe that's why their DEX is not that popular anymore!

No offense, but I heard lots of negativity against Russian projects! Most of them are scams, 90% of Russian bounty projects did not pay its hunters, there are a very few were better in the crypto market, Waves was the best among them as an example. But as you mentioned, language can be a barrier, therefore I haven't seen any interesting announcements or a successful new project on Waves chain!

I think the answer is simple. Nobody talks about this platform because in my opinion it is very uncomfortable for users. I used it several times, because I had to, because of the transactions of tokens created on this platform, but it always took me more time than making transactions with tokens based on Ethereum network. If something is not beneficial, or even inconvenient, then you do not use it - simple.

Oh i am sure that they talk about it, just in their own circles. I've got similar feeling i had in NXT 2015, strong community and somehow isolated on their own circles. Not sure if waves is building as much though or acting as an incubator for new projects like nxt community was.

A few years ago waves were very popular and many ICO were launched from the platform, many people predicted that waves would be a tough rival to ethereum. But somehow the fame of the waves is gone, even though the waves have a promising product and I think the same as the current binance.

It's unfortunate that waves didn't get any attention now even they used to be popular before. Waves been useful before but now no new project uses the platform that it out runs from other project. Hopefully there will be a move by the team that will make them active and successful again.

Waves was competitor of ETH but it failed to provide the solution what they promised on the time of their crowdfunding campaign. There are so many factor why it is not getting any attention from big companies to establish their business on it like ETH. The big reason there is so spamming on this platform a lot of fake tokens ruined the reputation and put into bad situation.

I also don't know why this project is so silent. WAVES was once a leading altcoin in this market but now it has lost its position in this market. Too little discussion about WAVES and no one seems to invest in this project and if the project continues like this in the future, I think it is difficult for WAVES price to rise again in the future, even it may die.

The wave run its course, just still water now.

just like NEO in the past that says a Chinese Ethereum is now almost no one talk about them,i remember years back that Wave is being talked in many topics here but now it seems to be fading.

anyway just what like you said it can reach 50$ but specific time cannot be tell,but lets see when Halving of bitcoin take place.

Waves might be waiting for the right time, I hope they will not give it up this easy as they were too good before that is able to compete with ETH. They need to be innovative at this time.

Sasha Ivanov promised huge success to Vostok (distributed for waves holders) and waves price went up
Sadly his promise never fulfilled and no one is interested in Waves anymore (except traders).

No one talk about Wave anymore just because of its real value. Waves mostly the same to lots of altcoin and this make people not interesting about this coin. You used to hear people talk about Waves future target, but have you try ever compare that price with Waves real value? They were talk much about this coin just because that moment everything is in strong uptrend and people want to be rich.

The ICO and the token market is done and dusted and it is hard for the rest of the platforms with similar model will die off eventually simply because you cannot have a speculative market that will sustain for a long period of time and if you are smart enough make sure anyone who is holding the coin to sell off when the market rises and hold something useful.
@OP the reason no one is talking about all these token platforms is because the use case right now is zero. ETH is the major market for token creation and do we need 100 platforms with similar use case?.

It's true that there were a lot of ICO projects based on Waves network, but I don't remember any being successful. Of course, I realize that for such a long time bear market many projects have collapsed, but those that were created on the Ethereum network became much easier to gain popularity and some of them succeed.  Unfortunately, I do not know any created on the Waves network that would be doing well today.

All of the fork coins that are coming from the waves platform are crap. I remember WCT, Waves x, and many more and they are all become shitcoins. All of the assets were created on the waves platform become shitcoins too right now, I just try to say based on the fact that is happening right now. Sasha has made so many promise and look how many people were getting trapped on coinomat. So many scam accusations have already created for waves too.
This platform has no future and it is only used as a speculation game by speculators

maybe because the community is not big, waves have never been promoted. whereas in the beginning all the concepts, the waves closest to the ability of ethereum, but for some reason the waves gradually became increasingly displaced and lost their popularity and sank. in the past many people also used the waves platform for an ico project and most of them were successful but now no one uses it anymore, I don't know why.
and also I saw that in waves dex too many shittoken including in my wallet suddenly a lot of tokens appeared.

What for talking about whit wave if price keep down and never growing up to higher price, many investors have tired waiting for wave back with higher price again and many of them cut loss with wave and not give chance for holding wave and take back much profit with wave will return to higher price again. Better sell during wave keep with little higher price than next time will see wave very lower price.

Well, it's simple, because until now there was no development that could make a pump. however, people will be more interested in what makes them profitable. for example, yesterday the talk about BCH was very large, it was because of the increase of 100%. if the development of waves can be like that, I think people will come back and talk again.

No longer interesting for this altcoin, today there are many better altcoins than Waves so this project was quickly forgotten in this market. And the current value of Waves has gone down too much compared to before, in 2020 I think Waves will be eliminated from the top 100 at coinmarketcap and will die gradually.

Waves is no doubtly one of the best project out there and they fastest dex as well but they majorly lack marketing. They have introduced the smart contract in their platform which can give slight boost but i think they must spend more on marketing rather than other stuff.

Waves is talked about enough I believe, I mean there has been so many wave related projects that it got divided a bit, people talk about wave projects as much as they talk about wave but that goes unnoticed most of the time. Wave is a decent coin that actually has a very good amount of support from its community, it has a decent price as well right now ranked at around 50th spot so I don't know what would you consider talked about enough?

For a coin that is around 50th spot, it is talked about probably more than any other coin around it. Of course it has a good enough potential to jump as high as top 40 but without something marvelous and unexpected happens, I doubt it will actually move anywhere near top 25 for the foreseeable future. For such coin, it is really cool and has a good supporters.

Can you tell me this token would indeed reach $50?

If yes, then can you buy Waves tokens if the price today is $50?

The only selling point for this project was the DEX but now changed to Hybrid exchange, what is new with all these features added to the platform? nothing IMO.

Waves miss its chance to be a strong exchange in the space but the team seems to me not to know what they want by diving into smart contract. No one is using their platform except some of these scam tokens.

The ATH I think was $15. I have my WAVES in the old wallet still not even claiming my Vostok tokens because it feels its a waste still for this project. I wish I have dumped it when it was still $10. WAVES is an old project but is very unproductive, if you can check the list of dapps using waves, its just too few with few users as well. You can't expect it to have value unless it gets pumped by sasha.  DEX doesn't have a volume despite it running for a long time.

Waves never huge promotion their own side. But this is right it was promising coin and since 2017 it’s gradually very popular when those guys invest they got big profit at the end of this year. Waves last price is 17$ most provably. As per as it’s a big dex platform so that people’s trust this coin. Right now price down below 1$. Yeah that time a lot of prediction likes it will be next eth or beats eth. Waves development something keep silent no updates from many months. In 2018 middle it’s price gradually down i have not seen any pump.       

Waves has gone up 100% at the end of 2019, and now it is still in the support zone, if Waves cannot survive at 9k satosi, then a dump will occur again

I think one thing they should do is run a sig campaign here in the forum. Maybe it will remind crypto users that waves is still here. They already migrate their exchange to waves.exchange, but still they are lagging behind. They should have done the promotional programs for this new exchange as it might attract some traders who don't know that they are already centralized.

It's completely normal for people to not pay attention to a coin that has limited adoption growth and basically no fundamental improvements than what it already is.

Especially when you have your entire business model centred around being a DEX - and there are a ton of better competitors, competitors with much more adoption than them like BNB, Komodo, BTS. There is no reason for anyone to be using the WAVES platform.

So the only real demand for their coin is through speculation, and since on that front prices haven't been moving as much either, there is virtually no reason for it to rise.

Actually they do it before and its not help any price movement , thats why they stop to having it.  Reasons why there are no new people intersted in waves is because it is more easily to create a shitcoins there. Almost all of the token created in waves platform has no value so why people will be interested to use thier platform ? Even own exchange wavesdex have only few users.

Almost every altcoins are down since 2018 although waves was very popular back in 2017 and growing wavesdex but right now there are already too much good coin that can compete with waves, so it's just a battle of advertisement and how good the marketing skills from the teams to make a hype of the coins and make a powerful demand to pump the price

market waves still show good charts. but in product terms, there are now many new platforms that might attract investors. waves lacking in promotional activities and collaboration with new projects. it does not support the strength of their market.

This is the same thing with Eth. Most of the tokens created on there are complete nonsense and won't ever be worth anything. The hype has just died down on Waves and more competitors have entered the market. Unless something new comes along with the project to give it a little boost and hype it up a bit, I'm sure it's going to continue along as any other average coin. It's not a bad project, it's just that people have moved on to other things.

It will not help a lot as the reputation of the waves platform has already destroyed. It's better if the team appears to its announcement thread and then the team must try to give feedback for the whole of the scam accusations that have already made by so many people who have been getting a big loss caused by crap management by the waves platform.
I see some people were still complaining about the waves announcement thread and there were so many negative reviews about this platform. Ths advertising campaign just will help this platform to get the new victims.

Absolutely no idea why the Waves is alienated as it was the talk of the town at one point of time during the bull run, I still remember users recommending waves and monero as alternate to Ethereum and Bitcoin but nowadays we don't see any news about these coins and even the management are least bothered to make an impact in order or them to bounce back.

Well it did pumped few weeks ago
And it start to retrace and yeah, i think not much people talk about Waves although its been in the field for many years

Anyhow they deserve better compare to most of the coins imo
However, currently Waves supply is not limited anymore as more waves will mint over time
If adoption can follow, Waves could be pretty good
I mean their transactions are cheap and fast if you ever use their wallet/dex

I would not agree that WAVES reputation is destroyed. People keep complaining on any platform and I have seen nothing but development happen with this one. I agree 100% that they have almost no marketing and this is what makes people so angry but to me,,, why need to spend money on marketing? Just keep building and slowly organic use will make your platform popular.

ETH was first so it has huge community. This is enough to make other projects basically impossible to catch up as it takes for people not only to learn new code but also stop using the old one ! Imo this is the biggest problem. ETH is more than enough to satisfy the needs of today's world for dApps. If there is demand for more dapps, than maybe there will be place for more blockchains and theiri scalability will reeally become a thing and will matter long term but right now, besides some overhyped projects that flood netowork once a year there is nothing that makes WAVES or anything similar any useful.

yups and there is no need to rush for a currency like waves in which this coin is design for long term when adoption already indeed.
so for those Waves supporters like me?let us just keep Holding waves and don't rush,we have a future and the team as far as i know is making development silently and dont need to use marketing because future will tell what waves deserved.

In my opinion (don't blame me because i am not make deep research about coin that the chain used to create tokens) but in past i only know 2 coin which is Waves and ETH. But now, there are some other coins which can be created token from it. And Waves looks like not really popular among people, but me still use it especially for it's less withdrawal fees in exchanges.

Waves had a very good potential during the altseasons in 2017. They could do much better for themselves and their loyal investors. However Sasha couldn't manage to handle and use that wind. Technology and blockchain are very important but you can not make it without a good marketing strategy.

as we know the wave price movements seem to be quite stable lately, even though the price movements have not been able to keep up with the rising trend of bitcoin prices, but the waves are a large project that is quite potential and is still in demand by many people because on average each wave exchange charges a withdrawal fee which is quite low. it would be better if the waves were able to plan large-scale promotions that might encourage the growth of the value of the coin itself

There is a time for everything. I think WAVES has its own time recently which makes it very popular. Like any other coins, there are promotion that makes it popular. I think they lack promotion now but still their price is stable enough and will cope up with other Altcoins when promoted again to be back on the trend.

Being under $1 seems like a good speculation opportunity to buy some now. How much are the fees to create a new smart contract on Waves, does anyone know?

Waves seem to be on the almost death, there has been no progress at all since 2018 and he is also not popular, even compared to lumens and dragons.
so all predictions that say waves will go to the top 10 seem very impossible.

Waves appeared as competition for the Ethereum platform and at first seemed to have a good chance of dominance. However, in my opinion, it's the developers fault that the community has stopped to be interested in this coin and, consequently, the entire network. In my opinion, this project will not create anything positive in the future.

just make sure to dump when you think the price has also reached it peak. the price of WAVES had been under $1 even before time. it just fly to the moon because BTC is also flying and this happened in 2017 bullrun.  the project is just waiting for another bullrun, no significant developments to its project really that even the smart contracts were attracting developers to go on their side.

Waves has been nothing but a huge disappointment since they made their so called "DEX" centralized, making it a hybrid exchange.

It seemed like a good "platform" coin, but it seems like nobody hardly uses it anymore unfortunately, I'm way more bullish on Blocknet these days, and their DEX. https://blockdx.com/

What excites me the most is their XRouter capable of solving the oracle problem, probably the most decentralized setup I've ever seen, beats Chainlink in many ways. A few partnerships, and this project is flying straight to the top of CMC.  ;)

Check out WAVE's developments in 2019: https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-2019-year-in-review-4a0f71c1b8f9 WAVE is one of the elderly residents of the market. Product is ready already, now they are busy with innovating and developing it. I don't know to which position they can climb, but I believe they will improve.

Wave might be the hiding gem but it is rare to see anyone discussing it in the crypto space. The project team does not go an extra mind to bring the value and the potential of WAVE to the general public.

Waves era occurred when ICO era. And now ico is rarely used, switching with ieo and crowdsale organized by several exchangers. And I think the waves did not make a new breakthrough, it can be said that the waves have almost 2 years there was no breakthrough done by the developer or the community. Though these waves are good coins and one of the strong competitors for ETH.
It is very unfortunate in 2018 that a lot of people misuse waveform platforms to make coins that are misused through airdrops and giveaway, and not a few waves-based projects that lead to scams. What I'm afraid of, waves themselves will be coins left by developers and their communities. It should have become an agenda for developer waves to make an update.

I think waves is no longer a big competitor of ethereum because they had been quiet for a long time. I don't hear any updates from sasha anymore or im not only updated. The price is keep on moving i don't expect it to be on top 10 place again only if they are going to push again its development and start making new customers and partners who will support and its blockchain.

Unfortunately, but probably all ICO projects that were created on the Waves platform have collapsed. This does not create a good opinion about this project. Also, the behavior of developers was very strange and many investors disliked it. The long-lasting bear market has led to the collapse of many projects, I think Waves is the largest of them.

what do you expect from waves ??
This altcoin may be waiting for the right time to make a new move because they know the market is not profitable right now so whatever is done cannot push anything up so I think they are waiting for the market to get better again then they make a move.

The tokens is a feature. The main product of the Waves blockchain is the real-time DEX.

In fact, I am pretty sure that there are some people who invest in waves, but since no one is talking about it, I think more people are affected to buy bitcoin or ethereum. in addition, Halving and ETH 2.0 are the reason people are racing to invest in both coins compared to waves. I think after that waves will be the choice for investment.

It caused by sasha did nothing for the waves and so many improvements that have already done by the waves platform. Look at how happened with the coinomat investors. A lot of people have putted waves platform in their mind as scam project.



I think that tokenization should be the main product because it's the only thing that makes waves coin useful.

All alts are also relying with how the market will proceed not only waves but also everything around this industry are hoping for the next bounce.
Waves are silently working and trying to keep surviving with how the market is showing they are still keeping alive and making sure that it wont'
totally be dumped without any chance.

i agree with this comment here
not many people talked so much about waves ..

but you can go to their ANN thread, they are very active there

Last year they have a huge promotions using the platform Bountyhive and somehow it gain traction and popularity but after that nothing's new. Waves and even Steemit have same situation. No one really talking about it. I guess because their current plan is now being suppressed by most famous coin such as eth's POS blockchain hype and Binance rambling marketing strategy. 

WAVES has been unable to compete, many new competitors have emerged but it seems that waves cannot provide new innovations, so at this time no one talks about it

I think the problem was really like culture, because the same thing also happened with NEO but Waves developers simply do not like to do marketing this is the problem perceived. For me not a problem and the rise that happened end of last year was because they focused on partnerships and projects.

But I agree Waves should have probably taken care a bit more of the projects who chose to raise on their platform.

That's the issue of all non-ETH blockchain.
Most hype project were on ETH, all the other chains that offer tokenization/smart contracts are suffering from this.

However, some are very innovative. I'm really surprised by Neutrino on Waves (check my sign). It's the first project of this kind and I don't know if that's possible to make a fully decentralized stablecoin (that offer interest when the money is sleeping by LPoS) outside the Waves blockchain.

I'm trading on the Waves DEX since it's been released, and when I short or leave a market, I can get an fat insensitive by leasing my Neutrino.

But well, that's only an example. As said, ETH attracted most project with ERC-20.

yeah there are no progress since years ago,i remember in past this currency is very popular but also weeks ago this one pumped a Bit but go down again in a matter of days.i don't know what the Team are doing now to make some good vibes for this currency but i am sure the potential of wave is always there.

even on 2017,waves cannot reached $20 and i dunno what kind of person can say waves will hit $50 and when it's announced.
but the fact, waves very very far behind from eth, both in of popularity or the development of the project itself, even i am quite sure waves must compete with EOS before facing with ETH.

Because no one talks on altcoins that does not know how to pump, this isn't a hype coin so we can't expect more talks about it.
It's a great project that continues to focus on its long term goal, so most likely we will see more talks about this when the bullish market returns.

Just be patient waves still has life with over $73 million total daily trading volume in exchanges combine.

because the team didn't really fomo it was as good as the other coins. such as Binance, they created their own ecosystem with DEX, Binance Launhpad, BEP2, ... and they were really successful. Waves is a platform-driven coin but now inferior to Binance, which is why people are less interested in Waves.
This is the truth and the platform development coins are all seemingly dead now, the list I know is NEO, Waves. Although the coin is still heavily traded, its technology doesn't seem to offer any special features.

Indeed, while other altcoins and ethereum are constantly updating and looking for opportunities to improve their positions in the market, the Waves still showed an incredible silence and seemed to no longer care about this race, it officially accepted to give up the game, I also don't really know the basic reason or the special reason for this situation. But for any reason, the platform shut down automatically and didn't welcome its community, so many people restrained it, gradually forgetting and not wanting to talk about the pain.

Waves almost death coin? How funny analysis because you know it’s almost around 90 million dollars speculation and how 72 million dollars trading volume in dead project? Dragon Coins have too poor development and 24 hours volume also. Since 2018 was big bull run cryptocurrency market, when a lot of dead coin was growing unexpectedly you can't imagine. DRG is absolutely shit coin.             

    Nice comment! I am a Waves holder, I'm leasing all my Waves coins for almost a year. I agree with you, Waves is a long-term
project, Waves doesn't need hype or sudden pumps, it has a long-term goal and I believe Waves will fulfill those goals in the
future. Until than we need to be patient and accumulate more Waves, my plan is to buy more!
   Daily trading volume of $73 millions is not bad at all. With that volume we know that Waves can make a huge progress, there's
a lot of free space for growing.

I don't think so that WAVES will do better in the bull run, this project was a gem but nowadays they become a parody. Even the dead coins dot com listed WAVES in their list because of their present performance! Bull run can't help you if you lose the community by your disaster performance. There are many coins now, I don't think people will make WAVES a gem once again!

Personally, I think that for 2 years now Waves has been starting to get worse and worse, the last memorable event with Waves was the project "East".

well bro, even though u say like that, the fact yes,they still cant giving a good thing for investor, no wonder waves seems hard to climb up.And about that updates , it just a common thing to do, i dont see any good thing from that blog for raising waves go to top 10.

Wave did well back in 2017.That time they did many developments and price raised 0.75$ to 8$.After crypto crash waves crashed continuously and I didn’t see major development in last 2years.Though I don’t love waves,maybe they are trying to survive after huge dump.               

https://news.bitcoin.com/everybodys-staking-but-whos-using-proof-of-stake-blockchains/

I too thought the hype about waves got lowered from previous years but the development of the project has not stopped. I am staking some waves and its really profitable compared to other projects.

Yeh I joined the Waves Ico and always tought it was a really good project, I dont know why the price is so low right now.
Because I recently started to use waves again and it so damn simple and good, A wallet for multiple Cryptocurrency's and also the decentralized Exchange within the wallet.
Which is so easy to use and also very cheap to trade the main Cryptocurrency's, Maybe they can add a few more to the list you can already trade there.

But I can definitely see the potential with waves, where you can easily trade and store Crypto with low fees.
I would even say buy some Waves yourself and test out how easy you can Recieve, Trade and Send waves within the DEX!

Waves is quite a working project, only lately it has ceased to be visible, I think in time Waves developers will solve this problem.

Waves is a useless project and the only its working product is only its blockchain and no more. Waves dex is a fail product with so many bug around there and in this platform there are more than hundreds of scam asset just like coinomat. Waves developer has no clue about what they must be doing right now. They just over promised to the investors as this is just a way for them to bring FOMO to the waves platform again.

Nothing surprising on here and this thing isnt only applied to WAVES but in all alts as well even including to those who are on top rankings which theres no updates or progress on it.
There were lots of speculations back in the past about ATH or going to moon.I cant deny that Waves platform is more better than most of shitcoins in the market but due to the current
condition where most people do focuses more on Btc then its not new for these alts to be forgotten on the list.

Does anyone know why Waves is pumping like that?
+30% today . It's huge!

I miss the pump, it's currently 14% now, .. maybe it could be due to the hype, and I am surprise since its volume is very good now, it has increased suddenly to $264,701,938 - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/
 

Those projects are launched in Waves network i think didn’t success in single project. This coin wasn’t big hype in that time, just for some good news and dev is worked to strongly developed this platform. When waves looking too much future brightest coin. Still i didn’t found any waves platform network coin is alive in the market.                   

This has been increasing recently seem like it was have the cash injection by some whales there. You can see on coinmarketcap, the last day increased was 32% and now its price still on 14% so we will see that this join will meet a bull run. Because if we see on its all time high was $18 and if we compare to the price now then we have a more gap of it. I think this coin is promissing to be choose as a place for investing your money, you can buy now before it it is price increase in the future.

Waves is still in the 50th most valuable coin according to Coinmarketcap. Not bad. But if you think about Waves becoming a rival of Ethereum then this is not looking good. Ethereum continues to stay at number 2 behind bitcoin. Maybe Sasha should start offering its tokens to companies especially there in Russia.

I also do not understand why Waves still stable and not pushed down to the lower ranks because I've been thinking about Waves for a long time, maybe it should sink when looking at projects that use Waves as a platform, the level of success is too few, many people try to exaggerate Waves as an opponent of Ethereum but in reality, it is too weak and incompetent. However, this project seems to contain special things that maybe we can't see, every time we think badly for Waves, it will continue to revive and make an impression on the market as the name implies

It's been a while now, there's still a huge gap between this two projects. ETH manage to grow and achieved the 2nd spot while Waves still far from the top 20 coins. Strong moves from the developing team will make a difference, adoptions will help this project to grow more and not just leaning with pumpers there should be a good work in progress behind it.

It is quite strange that there is not much noise about waves for a very long time.  The latest activity in their youtube channel is way back Dec. but that was just a  meet up event (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTIAWloz_ho).  And looking at their article their latest was this : https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-association-launched-in-frankfurt-germany-9d9b9bb4a931, and https://blog.wavesplatform.com/the-farewell-party-for-mrt-has-ended-606d12f1d775.  

it will hard for them to survive those situation , and the demand they think they can make is not even happening even in 2018 the token created on waves platform is almost shit tokens. Even investors lost thier trust to invest again for the lost, the only option is to make a new things that can help thier project to be known by new investors.

Personally, I don't think Waves can compete with ETH because ETH is much stronger and more popular, but Waves has grown quite well lately.

This coin has been silent for years and we don't know yet what would this thing could bring in the future. Personally I am holding some of those waves tokens, but unfortunately it wasn't gaining a better price. However, this year I don't see any further signs that there's a possibility for waves to withstand since most projects were more particular with eth contracts and other developing cryptocurrencies.

Unfortunately i dont have any Waves on my bag thats why its out of my radar when checking out prices.Take a look on ETH which had been increase in considerable percentage too.

Luckily i have some Shitcoins in my wallet like HBAR which do currently pumped out. https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/ Lucky me.! hehe

About wave Ill never seen or heard it anymore I dont what happen, Since on the year of 2017 Ill buy some waves and selling into a high price. I was wave fan on that year but now I think no one could talk about it. Wave are one of the great coins on that time and have some good values, But for now always I seen is always etherium or bitcoin and the top 10 coins in the Market. And actually wave still in the top 50 coins and we hope so it can recover soon.

People talk more often on ETH and BTC as they are the most popular coins in the market, but Waves is still here, in fact if you check the market now,

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/, waves is still in the top 100, rank number 50 to be exact with great trading volume (over $100 million) and a great price, soon enough as the bull run comes fully, people will be talking about this project again.

On the french local board someone is assuming that's because of a stable coin, the Neutrino dollar, collateralized by Waves in a smart contract

Neutrino Dollar is an algorithmic stablecoin collateralized by the Waves native token. The price stability is supported by market makers in the ratio of 1 USD-N : 1 US Dollar. Distinct from centralized fiat-collateralized stablecoins, USD-N is issued by a smart contract.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/neutrino-dollar/

Waves is the top 49 big community project in the based of coinmarketcap, This one how dead project in your analyzed. You can not compared waves both of dead projects. Dragon speculation is looking big otherwise it’s seem garbage project  at this moment trading volume and currently worth.        

Now they talk more about popular coins, for example, the top 10, the waves have not been impressive at all recently and the waves are falling on the CMC down and down.

It is true that Waves is falling in the coinmarketcap ranking, but this is not the fault of the market recession. In my opinion, it is the fault that Ethereum is more userfriendly. Despite the fact that the bear market lasted two years, and many projects collapsed, quite a number of projects based on Ethereum have been quite successful. When it comes to the Waves platform, I don't know a single one that would succeed, all of them fell. I think this is the main reason that the price of Waves has dropped and people have stopped talking about it.

reasonable in my opinion if there is a decline should be a decline like this we can take advantage of by buying a few coins and storing them we do not know the future of waves like where, who knows later it will be more than current prices

ETH got more supports due to the fact that the system caters more projects and new developers are mostly using this chain, and like what you have said, waves is not performing that much and with competitions behind the team needs to work it out and bring new progress or provide attracting offers and try to keep providing updates that will engaged old and new investors to gathered interest to bring new money and start the pumped, it will surely get attentions and it will start the talk back with this coin.

Waves had a chance to grow when ICO was still popular but it was left behind by ETH with a very huge gap although we see waves grew that time but it wasn't as big as the growth of ETH, so basically Waves has to improve more to in order to compete with the greatest platform and maybe pump when the bull run arrive.

Yep it is a long time that no one talks about waves but it is still in the top coinmarketcap and it is still a good coin to invest. I remember the old times that waves was a popular cryptocurrency because you can make your own tokens easily.

Of course, the waves continue to be located almost at the same place in the rating of the cryptocurrency market, but note that other companies use very little blockchain.  In addition, for quite a long time, I have not observed new projects on the forum that Waves used to create their cryptocurrency.

We can really differentiate between coins that are using waves platform and eth(erc20).I remember that creating coins in waves platform is indeed easy
but the community or most investors do tend to make their own coins using up eth platform thats why we can really see the demand in means of ranking
but somewhat Waves do retain its rank in spite of the gap but i cant say if this one would be worth to risk on.

Waves blockchain seems to be on a low key for a while now. I believe it has a lot to do with the publicity and also developments and upgrade/update on the use and utility of the waves blockchain. The technology evolves on a daily and only those who innovate with it enjoy the top charts as it concerns subscriptions and also the partnership, these partnerships go along way in helping with adverts and also gets the blockchain patronage from the general public. EOS is a good example

ETH was more popular because it was more popular,,, when ICO scammers wanted to do a project they just realized everyone had ETH and it was the easiest to ICO on. Waves was actually even much easier, to be honest, especially with the lite wallet integration that accepted BTC and ETH and other coins BUT people did not know about it and well, long story short, people always go for the obvious!

I also see the price increase of Waves but the effort here does not belong to the potential and updates of Waves, almost altcoins had a sharp rise at the time when bitcoin brought a new inspiration to the market, the greatest effort belongs to bitcoin, and now, altcoins have adjusted when bitcoin is adjusting. Waves may still be a good altcoin to hold and will return when bitcoin successfully adjusts but the potential is not great, Waves' faint presence is very obvious while the other altcoin constantly speed up development

I guess you are right, aside from it's popularity, its easy to use the platform so the scammers use both for their advantage.
However, we can't also deny that there are a lot of good projects using ETH platform and slowly their build their own chain, like for example, BNB was using ETH platform before then have their own change.

Though ETH dropped a lot, I still don't think Waves can beat ETH.

Waves hasn't been impressive lately, personally I don't see any prospects for this project, you can only invest in Waves to make money.

When I was starting in Crypto way back 2017, waves is like second to ETH when it comes to the platform and use case and many projects are using it as well though as we move forward until now, I don't hear any about their updates, does anyone got any info about it? Anyway, I guess their development should continue so that it will continue to grow and at least gain more reputation in this business

Waves used to be much more attractive for investment than it is now because there are many competitors on the market and time shows that Waves most likely lost out to other projects.

Yes it is trading pretty much at the price it was trading at since it launched back in 2016. Now compare this to ETH. ETH launched and it was maybe like $1-2 or so and now its at $250 or so.

LSK is another great example. When it launched it was suppose to be a ETH killer and it opened at like $1-2 and now pretty much trades at the same range. My guess is that its most likely that ETH had better exchanges and promotions and media spotlight than WAVES and LSK.

Who knows. Maybe its a great time to buy both right now and maybe one day they will reach $100 a coin.

The fact that they remain stable now, there's always a possibility that it will rise to $100 as long as the project keeps developing.
ETH just got the hype so it rises faster but these projects (LSK and WAVES) are huge project in the past where they were able to raise a big amount IIRC.

Now Waves, compared to other projects, is not a big project at all, but as you said, the project continues to develop and in the future may again be the top.

Wave, lisk, stratis and neo are some of the happening coins in 2017 ending but since the bearish conditions in 2018 all of them has lost over 80% of the 2017 gain. It is a petty that think has changed this way. Hope that this 2020 some of this coins could recover.

Waves is a good project but ever since the major dip happened, thenprice of waves went down and finding it difficult to go up again.  I dont really know what's going on in the waves community but I do love the project and I wish the developers and team wake someday to further develop and promote their project

When king of crypto, Bitcoin itself under pressure, how we can expect altcoins to do well? No new money entering into crypto since past 2+ years... Making it difficult to predict when we will be out of bear phase.

   Waves team is quiet for some time, it's true. But maybe they are quiet and they work hard on upgrades. When they finish
they will make some huge announcement. We can hope it's like that, development is important part it's better for all of us
they to work on that than to talk around and do nothing.

But I think staying too long is also not good for some investors, they will think if Waves is not worth investing because there is no good progress. A good development will certainly have an impact on increasing demand for the project's tokens / coins, but I don't see that happening at WAVES.

Many altcoins affected of bearish trend so this waves has gone too dip its price. Actually I never heard its update when it comes to development of this project. So many of us hope to see the altcoin will grow and surge again and waves coin since I have also this coin until now.

I don't think it is a bad thing that wave didn't moved up or down too much. It has a good amount of liquidity versus its volume and it is still used to this day for the purposes it was created, so I do not think it is actually that bad to trust waves and put your money on it.

Some coins are created because it has technological improvements, some coins created because owners wants free money, and some coins just like waves created because it can be used for something and that is why waves is not going up or  down too much, there are people who like it and they have it and community basically changes their waves between themselves. It is a "decent" one that nobody loves too much to rank it top 10 but not horrible to think it is a shitcoin.

I actually forgot it's existence  :D but actually I don't know on what is the development of the project since so far there are so many coins suffer from those but few of them slowly recovered but seems the waves has been away since the development on their side is not on the date, maybe the Dev is letting it happen so better to be aware on consequences for holding that coin today.

To me, I think the reason for such a bad indicator Waves lately is their platform, it is too easy there to make your own token, so their stock exchange has so much skam.

In any case, to date, I most trust Ethereum and those promising tokens that are created on the erc20 platform.  But nevertheless, at one time, a couple of years ago, the Waves proved to be very good and since then in my portfolio there is a certain amount of coins on the wave platform.  In fact, today the role is played by a greater degree of demand for Ethereum, due to its technical characteristics, and not just the use of the platform wave.

Waves now is more suitable just for making a profit, if you invest right at the right time, you can make good money on this coin, I do not see any more prospects so far.

Yes waves not much popular to traders also here in Bitcointalk not really talk about waves. Even waves has own market that you can trade but I never heard it anymore no one promoting it. Maybe waves is a coins but why isn't it popular to trader.

Well, why else do we need all altcoins? only for making money on their volatility. Creating magic plans for the great future of some coins is a very strange thing. Now the market makes it possible to earn good money on the volatility of coins and this should be used but not dreamed about future

for me altcoins is here to Back Up Bitcoin in future and also to serve their functions for the betterment of financial situation when adoption happens so they are important to us.but we cannot blame people to at least expect profiting so let them take the advantage of volatility most specially when this kind of time comes the event everyone waited long.so expect selling in the next months from all of us here that wishing to have another Hype this 2020.

Well the reason of coins people stop talking about is mainly when the coin doesn't move in price imo
Most people still doesn't care about development and etc

They have lost the demand and people have already started to get the better coins than them all. Look at how popular tezos is compared with those old platforms and they are nothing right now. They have made a lot of mistakes by never try to done the development properly. investors were feeling bored with those coins.

They are literally one of the leading github commit development teams of all time and you are questioning them as a crypto company?

I mean sure they are getting more and more attention everyday that they didn't had the day before and they are still nowhere near the top 10 levels after that which is a scary thing however you can't say they are not working. The only downfall is the fact that there are coins who worth zero and still get ranked better which scares me the most.

If you have a coin that you work soo hard on and still get basically nothing, why would you continue and even how could you continue without funding as well? So long term I am scared that team would finally may go "well we tried and we worked so hard, harder than many others but people do not want us" and may end up stopping. That would be really the end for them.

Waves hasn't been very good lately, it used to be a good project, but over time it's less interesting, I hope the developers will come up with something and improve their project.

how can you say not good  ?  its not also less interesting but many people still use it and invest on it  , its just waves are not on the lime light yet but this does not mean that waves becomes so bad  .

 take example other good coins too that are not really that trending  . they are good but they are only silent which is okay because they are not boastful enough  . and those who are shining are actually the one that goes off so fast and never coming back again   .

Then try to elaborate those coins?

Most coins in the market now even the top ones arent really on that situation where they do perform well in the market but it doesnt mean that they are bad.
We know that Waves is being recognized by the community but same as other coins it is just still on the verge when its been affected on the current market condition.
So its no surprise to have these impressions but we cant draw any conclusions.

I like Waves because:
-Developers diligently provide updates
-The price is stable and tends to increase
-Waves can use other tokens as a fee for sending other tokens. So many choices for choosing fees, and the fees are also not high.

Wave is better than some top projects in crypto space but just because you aren't hearing waves gets promoted or news doesn't mean it's a bad project, many new projects are using waves platform instead of Ethereum smart contract

Now there is little talk about Waves, because there are enough projects on the market that have become much better than Waves, so interest in Waves has fallen.

This is also a factor that makes investors and traders ignore Waves and found it in the other coins (high market potential). It was the practical thinking that even Waves has existed for a long time but we are looking for a certain coin that could give us a passive return that it eventually change the mind of the people.

Well, Waves still in the race and many investors are still loyal and some projects are in the user of its platform. But then, I'd sometimes we think a better opportunity which the others could make it higher and that is a reason we also have to consider.

the fact as said above is that it is very rare for the waves project because it must be admitted that the waves of the past exchange were indeed many who did not like it because the existing transactions were very difficult and not easy. but now waves exchange has made many changes to make it easier for transactions. but indeed there are currently not many waves projects, but we can be sure that many will be interested later.

So I unleased my Waves like 2 weeks ago to try out some of the new Staking options (within the Waves DEX). Looks pretty good. But now prices all crashed so I unstaked and bought in everything back to Waves. Small tiny profit since Waves didn't actually crash that much.

It's all brand new and spankingly good if anyone cares to check back. So much has happened since Waves Lite got upgraded.

I think that Waves has long ago become worse than it was, there are no great prospects there, in my opinion, you can invest in this coin to make money.

just saw this post well waves is one of the good projects out there i am still hodling few tokens. I think the problem with them like many of you pointed out is the marketing and development community. They need some major revamp if they want to compete with ethereum.

If no one talks about Waves anymore, that means none is interested in this coin. No doubt Waves was popular a few years ago, but maybe something is not the same as in the past. But there are some people, who believe still in Waves. l don't think Waves can be interesting for investors, that is why there are also projects that are better than Waves.

You are right about this, Waves was supposed to be very promising and suddenly it fell into the backstage of the market... the market cap is still among the highest of alts but it lacks promotion... usually this is a sign of something great being prepared or the beginning of the fall...
I think I still own a small amount of waves, just in case...

Waves is a SCAM project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198937.msg52992469#msg52992469

I am an investor who is disappointed with WAVES, because I believe in all the promotions carried out by WAVES in 2018.
I hold it until the end of 2019, and the price is getting lower. Then I decided to sell loss the WAVES I have. So my conclusion
to WAVES, why this year no one talks about WAVES. Because many WAVES holders are disappointed like me, after all WAVES
developers are less active on social media. So the development of WAVES is not progressing, because of lack of promotion.

Did you withdraw something? Because my $7k WUSD (https://w8io.ru/3PPTYsB78vQ5B7to1PHmgW6Bqdkkfavdcjn/f/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) is illiquid within 3 months, after I'd sold this shit.
This was been my last liquid asset, on this fucking SCAM-platform, after deposit 2 BTC (http://[url=https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e) 1 year ago!

if seen from its development, Waves is indeed very potential, Waves is a smart contract project such as Ethereum, and the DEX Project, even with DEFI, but in terms of current prices it is still undervalued, hopefully 2021 Waves can touch $ 50

If it weren’t a SCAM, then yes,
but will be easier to develop the fork of this,
than to buy this shit even for 1 dollars, even for 1 cent.
Because 100M waves can make for this bums 1 million at price 1 cent,
but they not have so much cap, and real market cap is lesser than $7k,
which they can not pay within 3 fucking months!  ;D

So, maybe, you can see the prices 10k USD-N / waves
if all 999 billions (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/DG2xFkPdDwKUoBkzGAhQtLpSGzfXLiCYPEzeKH2Ad24p) will be sold for all waves, but this will not to be 10k USD / waves, never-never.
Just because 1 USD-N != 1 USD, and really, 1 WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) was been equals for 1 USD, from 2016 year (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL)!

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

On top of that they turn wavescam coin into an inflationary one, thousands of wavescam coins are created from thin air everyday, you better throw your money into a black hole lol

Waves had prospects, it was supposed to be promising but it's like it was not having enough support and it wasn't sustained, few of this collapsing coin were meant to be good but once they could not survive especially at the bear market they were seen as scam...it takes great strength for many other currencies to remain standing during the bearish even when Bitcoin was almost down.i believe this wave can still rise and be sustained,if the managers do not totally give up.

Incent, encryptotel, coinomat, mobilego and all of projects that have been using waves as tokenization have become shit scam project. That's not a big surprise to see the parent platforms who these platforms have been doing shady things too.

This is totally a crap platform.

You wont be expecting big from the forex trader Sasha unlike Vitalik which has a background in coding you would expect Eth would really progress.

This is a big problem big funding but its being runned by people with no clue/idea with crypto.

Personally I think their departments apart from development are not well Organized I mean they are actually one of the first starter in the crypto market and many people trust them up till now but something about not taking chances with advertisement,collaborations and generally the ways company increase awareness seems lacking I think they are just the quite ones

You are right Waves failed to take their platform ahead of other competitors. And when a project can't compete, their outcome is not good. I was very optimistic about the waves. One that influenced me was that the waves would be something huge. But now I realize that my purpose was not successful. The price of waves does not change much in the market but there is a lot of manipulation in this coin. If you take a look, you will understand.

Sure. I even have a plan.
At first, need to dismiss from degenerative moderations, start fining for this, and start solving the problems.

At second, with the team of 180 people, just need to earn, more than:
$18,000 (2 BTC) / (180 people * 12 months) = $18,000 / 2160 people * months = $8.33 / people * month
and even
$7000 / (180 people * 3 months) = $7000 / 540 people * month = $12.96/people*month
This need just to discontinue suck, within the fucking months, and show positive ROI value.

At third, need to be not a fucking SCAM, and not stole the traders money,
and provide the swaps of official WavesPlatform-assets,
while some problems there is exists.
This need just because, while world GDP is growing, no one serious investor,
will not want to invest his millions and billions, in the rat's SCAM,
where someone is ready to steal someone’s pennies from traders.
He just go to coinmarketcap.com (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/), see the rank, visit bitcointalk threads, by "Announcement"-link,
and read how they really suck a last money from traders, LOL.

After all, need to turn back old DEX, because waves.exchange - this is just a centralized toilet,
to PR the sales of large issued USD-N (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/DG2xFkPdDwKUoBkzGAhQtLpSGzfXLiCYPEzeKH2Ad24p), and coinomat's WBTC (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/8LQW8f7P5d5PZM7GtZEBgaqRPGSzS3DfPuiXrURJ4AJS), instead of a real BTC (https://www.blockchain.com/ru/explorer).
And, as you can see, the issuer of WBTC, this is the same address, who issued WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck), before this scam (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL).

And, after this all, they just write on their scam-site: "Buy bitcoin (Buy WBTC).",
while each token can be scammed by this scheme... Pffff...
And moderate the problem issues there, just to do not do nothing, to resolve it.

well cryptos are just like that.  After making some impressions during ico it enters in the market with impressive manner.But the time of failing comes next when the community realize that the project is nothing and just simply for hype or it is just simply hard to adopt because of some lacking service.

I still have a few token waves, but I didn't check it for a year.
when trying waves desktop wallet version I can't open it. How do I see my assets there?
about prices I'm not sure waves will compete with tokens like ethereum.

Thats what peoples impression couple years ago.

Look at those same currencies that has been well impressed the Public in 2017 when the bullying is really indeed.
But after that year when the Bear of 2018 arrive,everything fells down and they are gone like what waves experienced.
It will not happen in Waves because this has no potential like what ethereum is.

Better sell all your waves or let them die in your wallet.

It is indeed true, that Waves lack with information. Sasha seems to know that too and wants to change it:
https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/1265959851076849664

Did you use https://waves.exchange ?
https://dex.wavesplatform.com/ doesn't work anymore.

the waves market isn't that bad buddy. maybe it's not as popular as ethereum. but waves have a pretty strong market. their platform development might not be like ethereum or other platforms. even in the adoption of the use of blockchain they are still lagging.

I wouldn't say that. That's what I thought too, since you don't hear much about Waves. But here https://yellowblock.io/use-cases-for-waves/ are some use cases. And it seems that some things are already implemented.  All that matters now is that they are implemented in the real world.

I dont buy this because it pretty easy to know/aware of the cryptocurrency in the market that have good user case of it blockchain and even their Stable coin (USDN) is also lagging. Aside from that, i think what somehow affected the project was the scam accusations said in so e years back and the level of people that lost their funds due to lower security level of their beta platform then.

You are right. that year some projects might adopt blockchain waves. but ethereum seems to have been more successful first with their platform getting very large adoption. while the current waves are not good enough with the development of the platform.

Yes, but atleast waves still stand at the Top 100 cryptocurrency at coinmarketcap now,, and thats a sign if waves still good enough
Anyway In the past, i'am the big fan of waves, but i already sell all my waves in 2019

because no more hype with this altcoin now,
maybe when a big news coming on waves again, some people will spread it in this forum and a new hype on waves come back
anyway to hit about $50 for 1 waves, thats very hard even in long term period mate

If it is not included in the top 10 altcoins and there are no events then it is natural not to talk about it anymore. And that's what happened
with WAVES, but it's not means WAVES is bad. So for WAVES holders do not need to worry, have to be patient to wait for the next hype so
that the price of WAVES can pump. And that can happen if a bitcoin pump, coins like WAVES usually will join the pump if a bitcoin pump.

And of course, WAVES-holders not must to sell this,
because they can be just scammed by them,
as they already scammed me with WUSD.
Top 10... Hehheh... This scam-shit must to be delisted from coinmarketcap.com and exchanges, IMHO.

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

No one talk about it anymore?? I dont know where you find data about it. But ur wrong, if you go to altcointalk, you will see subforum discussing about waves. Until today, i see waves still good altcoin, yeah many tokens under waves platfrom become shitcoin but waves itseft not related about that, every coins have team behind them

avoid projects that are on the Waves platform, I learned from the PBT case, look at the Primalbase project, in 2017 to 2019 the PBT is very good to invest, and eventually has a 100% decrease because this project is a scam and dies, it's better to avoid all projects from waves, not a waves project

Do you mean https://altcointalk.io/?
I didn't know the site before and the site doesn't seem to be very well frequented. Where is the subforum about waves? Do you have a link?

To remind you Mate,Altcointalk.io is a site that Run and Owns by the famous "YOBIT" company that has too many scam accusation in this forum.

So for me?what can we expect from that Site to talk to?

talking about wave(That is being accused to be a scam) by a scammer site is obvious,Scam attempt will be there soon.

SCAM! I lost 2 BTC (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e) in this shit-coin, and they can not turn it back within 1 year.
Only losses, after dumps and sell their premine-instamine.

After all, an official coinomat's WUSD and WEUR tokens,
was been dumped and delisted (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL), and trading is closed (https://waves.exchange/trade/CEUR_CUSD), at beginning of April,
and I lost my last liquid asset - $7k WUSD ($7000).
They cann't pay this back within 3 months, after SCAM,
and only moderations I can see and ignor!

180 peoples in the command cann't turn back $18k (2 BTC) within 1 year, and 7k wihtin 3 months! Fucking bums!

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

Ah. Yeah, I remember. The infamous yoshit campaign. You can clearly see from the topicality of the threads that their forum is dead.  ;D

It can still placed on top 100 caused by this project was doing so many shady things. This is a crap platform with so many scam coins that already issued on waves.
coinomat is the worst thing that was running by waves directly.

Exactly hahaha.

Though there are some people i know that still there and saying The site is cleaning their forum to be spam free.

But the truth is they are only preventing themselves to Pay because every post in that forum is Paid lol.
So kicking those poster will save them from paying shit amount.

One can't even name waves assets that becomes successful on their platform. If there's any, it will only be counted on your fingers. Also, even if they migrate to waves.exchange, I don't think many traders are using their exchange. They need to do some marketing or maybe sig campaign. Maybe, it's time to promote again their platform here in the forum.

Not https://altcointalk.io/ but https://www.altcoinstalks.com/. That's forum is so active, but focus discuss about altcoins
You can try to sign up and learn more about that. And you will see sub forum about waves

I dont know why people see waves is bad project?? But for me waves is one of many great project.
If you guys buy waves and then the price dump, that's is your fault not the project. Until today trading volume about $21 Million, and you say this project scam?? Oh c'mon..??

I didn't know this website either. But it seems that people write quite often in this forum. I will take a look.

I wouldn't say, Waves is a bad project. But there is simply a lack of marketing. But Sasha told, they want to change this.

The price is down because instamine is only being sold.
In the first block (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1), you can see 100 millions of this instamined WAVES.
And they can allows their traders, only to buy this this shit, including so much preissued USD-N (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/DG2xFkPdDwKUoBkzGAhQtLpSGzfXLiCYPEzeKH2Ad24p) and USDT (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/34N9YcEETLWn93qYQ64EsP1x89tSruJU44RrEMSXXEPJ), but not let to sell all this shit.
I just tried to sell my FUCKING WAVES at a loss, and you know what happened?!!
They just STOLE MY MONEY from me, by using the one primitive manipulation (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL)!
I sold MY OWN waves for "an official USD of WavesPlatform" - WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) with volume just $7k,
and I got 7000 WUSD for this waves,
but after I did that action, the price of WUSD just go down,
because bitcoin-token (coinomats WBTC-token) was been overpriced on the Waves DEX for WUSD,
and then they just close trading of WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) (and WEUR (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Gtb1WRznfchDnTh37ezoDTJ4wcoKaRsKqKjJjy7nm2zU) too).
Since then, I have just an illiquid shit-tokens - 7000 WUSD (https://w8io.ru/3PPTYsB78vQ5B7to1PHmgW6Bqdkkfavdcjn/f/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) on my account balance, but they have my liquid assets - my money.
They just have been silent, and do not answer, more than three months! Three fucking months!
This WUSD, was been the LAST LIQUID ASSET that remained on my account balance! This is my LAST MONEY!
And the trading of WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) and WEUR (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Gtb1WRznfchDnTh37ezoDTJ4wcoKaRsKqKjJjy7nm2zU) was been closed (https://waves.exchange/trade/CEUR_CUSD),
after coinomat-issuer just burned their pre-issued tokens, by the following two transactions:
pre-issued 988,019,242.43 WUSD burned (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/CSzHBzM7VrCpNhjFtaCXFzW9cQKfccVBNLiBSo35sLki), and pre-issued 986,788,900.03 WEUR burned (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/GuX4CNdsRY3vVHDnd1pFZZ5xavV2bmiEWAsfBpNjAcxf).
SO, MY LAST MONEY WAS BEEN JUST STOLEN. Isn't this a scam?! This is scam in its a primitive form.
Initially, I made a deposit for 2 bitcoins (you can find the transactions in my posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1105573;sa=showPosts)), but I did not see any profit with them, within 1 year,
and after all, they just STOLE ALL MY MONEY, on the "SPOT-EXCHANGE FAKE-MARKET".
They did not let me even exit with zero percent, and they can only steal the money, step by step, or all by one step.

So where is my fucking money?? Who will turn it back my money, our family fucking budget ($7k-$18k  + profit for year of investing)?
Sasha Ivanov, which is not answer me for email within 3 months, after coinomat scam???
Or his scam coinomat, which did stole my money, and CEO of which he is?
I want to buy my own cryptocurrencies (not a tokens), buy it for my own money, and withdraw it into my own wallet-address.
WHERE IS MY FUCKING MONEY??? WHERE IS MY FUCKING BTC???
All was been stoled, and I did not get NOTHING on this fake market.

And this is the real result of investing just with volume - only 2 BTC within 1 year.
While the market cap, of this overpriced dirty bubble, now have the value $100M, they just are ready to stole $7k-$18k.
And this fucking bums, just cann't turn it back within quarter, and year (and maybe years and decades)!
Because they can only stole the money from the traders, by using their trading bots, and neural-networks,
and the trader's fucking satoshies, is the main goal to make PR for this scam.

Maybe, for me will be more easier to mine my money back, myself, maybe even on high difficulty,
and this will be more easy, than wait this from that crazy and greedy peoples.

Also, if I really made some mistakes in the trading on the real market,
this is my mistakes, and I have no any questions about it.
But WHERE IS MY FUCKING USD for WUSD?? What this is a scam-shit??? No any answer.
Just one bot posting the some advertising in the main thread about waves (he do not answer on PM),
and only I'm is dissatisfied of situation about WUSD, on all this bitcointalk forum!
If I traded with bots (lesser than 100 addresses (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) have more than 1000 WUSD), and if I traded there alone,
this is not real market, and this rats just stole my money then.

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

so far the waves still have a fairly large stock exchange. I don't think this is a bad project. but there is still very little development being done. if only the developers thought of something big and could grow their market demand. that would be very good.

Wow wow wow, the point is you loss, because invest in waves, right??
Simple question, who tell you to buy waves?? I think we know, no one force you to invest in this coin, so when you get loss, it's your fault, stop say waves scam. your statement can't be accepted. if waves scam coin, so many exchange will delist it, but until now ?? you know the answer

So you shit scammer?going out of your thread now to Spread your PONZI scheme?Stay on your thread with your offering that damn 1% daily profit that you promote.

Or you are just very desperate because after daily bump in your thread no one stupid enough to invest a Penny?

Please Don't listen to this person Guys,Check Trust History first because givin even small attention.

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Waves On the other hand seems to be scam also?too much concerns are being thrown here .

If you were a waves supporter and you will never say it was a bad project but when you were a victim from the scam coinomat that has been running by this crap company and you will say this project is a crap project.
People called waves as a shit scam project.

I also heard that. I have never had waves. but until now and after all that happened why the waves still have a fairly large market. many traders also still trade it.

in my opinion the waves of a good project, it's just that they have many projects that are made into one association, such as WCT, WEST etc., this makes Waves less valuable

they were good in the past. but not much market development and growth is happening. It is unfortunate indeed, but I am sure there are not many people who hold, let alone trade waves daily.

What about so many scam projects built in the waves platform? I can even mention some of them for you too. Do you know gamecredit or mobile go. Both are scam projects. Sasha has no strong vision and he was only wanna get money from his crap project called waves

agree with you. this is something bad. with a little bit of development and use of the blockchain wave network. many of them are scams. this is different from ethereum. the development and use of the large ethereum blockchain network made it natural for many projects to end in scams.

Simple question, what about so many scam projects built using ethereum platfrom?? will make ethereum as scam coins?? Of course Not, right?
Waves almost like ethereum, people can build project using their platfrom, but if becomes a scam, that was the mistake of the project, not the waves or ethereum.

I was wondering the same thing.
I also find it regrettable that so many projects are scam. But this is true for ETH projects as well as for Waves projects. ETH as Waves can't be blamed for that.

I do even remember that creating Wave-platform based alt isnt really that hard back in the days https://blocksdecoded.com/create-cryptocurrency-using-waves-platform/

Same goes for erc20 too thats why we do see lots of coins flooded out into the market.The thing here is that Waves didnt really get that much attention if we do compare

it to Eth platform.Its no surprise that these projects didnt turn out well or didnt get that much attention including this one but at least it do still hang out in top 100
in the entire marketcap.

WAVES were a failure because of it's poor infrastructure and in-competitive developers. There are many such coins introduced whose value was predicted to go high in future but it collapsed after sometime due to it's poor performance.

You are right, waves don't get much attention because some developments also don't work. especially the use of blockchain waves that are too abrupt to end up for a scam project. this has a bad effect on waves.

I do not know why this scam shit still listed somewhere, but now I understand, this is a last rat's scam,
just one-day company, where the rats are ready to stole just $7k, which was been a last my liquid asset on this fucking WAVES DEX,
and after they just stole this, by using the one primitive manipulation with WUSD,
they can do not answer within the fucking months, and just enable the moderations on their shit-sites.

I suspect, the market capitalization, which we can see (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/), this is fake value of money,
because, maybe, this dirty bubble is inflating by already stoled money,
and maybe this dirty money, our, trader's, last fucking micro-satoshies,
is just re-invested into PR, faucets, and the listings on the some centralized exchanges...
So in this case, this is the main reason, why this scam-shit,
still is trading, and listed somewhere...

But anyway, this is overpriced, very-very overpriced!
And even if price will go down to 1 cent, 100 millions of instamined waves,
after they just sold this all for 1 cent, can give their issuers, 1 million dollars.
BUT... REALLY... THEY DO NOT HAVE A SUCH REAL MARKET CAP,
because, really, they are ready to stole just $7k-$18k (2 BTC),
and hold this within a months-years,
and do not let to exit from this shit, even with null percent of profit!
So, if they do not have one million, waves price even in 1 cent for waves, IS NOT economically viable,
but as we can see, this is traded by $1/WAVES, and this is a scam in its primitive form.

Therefore, I suspect, the ICO was been a fake, and was been made just to overprice the waves,
and sell this overpriced shit then for peoples.

Yes, you are right. I got loss, because I invested in waves.
I lost 2 BTC, within 1 year of investing in this shit, and $7k, after WUSD manipulation.
More than three months I do not have the access to MY OWN LAST FUNDS,
I can not withdraw this, and cann't buy any liquid crypto to exit from this shit,
because really, this funds is holding in the Sasha's coinomat,
and no any answer on emails within 3 months, and only moderations I can see.
Now... I'll explain, why I did invest in waves? When I did buy this shit, I saw this has rank <25 on coinmarketcap.com ,
and market capitalization more than $250 millions (>20,000 BTC).
Also, I did remember the waves on cryptopia.co.nz in 2017 year, and this was traded there at price 0.001 BTC ($15/waves).
So, what is the share of 2 BTC ($18,000) in this market cap? This share is negligible.
What I get, if I will buy waves?
I can make my own node, I can staking, I can issue tokens,
which I can trading each for each on the waves DEX, etc...
This is the main reason, why I decided to buy waves, and just sell my BTC, which can dump into $300 or $150 for each coin.
But... What I saw then?? Dump, dump, dump, dump... Instamine just sold, sold, sold...
All tokens, which I did buy - is illiquid. Fucking scam shit...
So I see only, the waves price dump, dump, dump, dump, up to 0.50 cents/waves.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
I did buy this shit at $2.50/waves... And just sold at 1.10 WUSD/waves and try to fixate my USD in WUSD...
Why they sold this fucking waves? JUST BECAUSE I DID INVEST 2 BTC, and this greedy rat's just eating my fucking BTC,
that's main reason why this scam-shit was been dumped, and NOW I understand this clearly!!
Moreover, after I sold this scam-shit into WUSD, I was been sure the WUSD this is Official WavesPlatform USD,
which was been issued by coinomat.com, CEO of which is Sasha Ivanov, topic-starter of waves-thread.
But... After some time, after I sold $7k waves, I just see WBTC was been overpriced for WUSD,
and I cann't exit from this WUSD without lossed... Hm... Ok...
Will just hold this WUSD, because I can buy waves at any time at any price, and withdraw this shit...

But what I see then?? WUSD SCAM. Just fucking coinomat scam.
This fucking rat's just burn their pre-issued tokens, and close the trading for WUSD and WEUR,
leave for people their illiquid tokens, and stole their money, and liquid crypto.
Maybe, this was been processed just because I did sold 7k waves, and did buy 7k WUSD,
and this REAL VOLUME is too much for them all,
because they cann't make suck for this, within 3 months, and maybe years,
and maybe, even within the decades.

Why I said "REAL VOLUME"? Because as I understand, there is NO REAL VOLUMES, just one trading bot,
sell and buy his own crypto, and transfer this within his different addresses.
In this case, the real volumes is 0, and volume with $7k,
this is a great spike in this fake and hand-drawn market,
and this is too large to make the some antagonistic primitive scam-actions,
just to let them to stole this, ASAP.

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

some sites call the Waves project a good project, because their activity on Github is very good, always updated, different from other projects, but for the price aspect it is very bad, hopefully Waves will be even better

yes, i also believe this coin is good my friend
maybe this coin need a good marketing strategy for now
because a good project without good marketing strategy will move very slow, just like waves