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Dear All,

I would like to announce that Hex•Fury, 6 Bitfury chip USB Stick Miner is in stock and sale will start on 22nd of March 2014.

Hex•Fury is a beautiful and very efficient usb miner designed by c-scape and intron, who I'd like to thank for their amazing work. Well done guys :)

Hex•Fury is not just a "pretty face" but also is a proper runner, with hashing speed around 11GH/s out of the box and up to 15Gh/s overclocked, it is a perfect toy for people who like to "tinker" with things. 6 Bitfury chips deliver solid and stable performance with almost no HW errors and low power draw.

Hex•Fury Facts

No. of chips: 6 Bitfury chips,
Hashrate: ~11GH/s out of the box, up to 15GH/s overclocked,
Power usage: ~0.86W per GH,
Dimentions:  26x60mm without usb plug,
Voltage: 5V stock, max 5.5V overclocked,
Power requirement: 2-2.5A to get full speed,
Supported software: cgminer 3.8.2 and up, BFgminer 3.7.0 and up.


Sale, pricing and payment info

There will be NO PREORDERS! Miners are in stock and will be shipped as soon as sale will start.

UK+EU Customers must have Vat added to goods shipped within EU, however if you are EU based business with valid Vat number, you can have goods shipped without Vat. Please Pm me if you have any queries.

1-10 Units price is £140  £120+Vat each,
11-20 Units price is £130 £110+Vat each,
21+ Please PM me.

All outside EU customers, don't have to pay VAT but are responsible for all import duty taxes. Real value will be declared for customs so keep that in mind.

Payment

Our new website accept following payments methods:

- BTC via BitPay  
- Bank transfer
- PayPal
- Card payment

Escrow- Yes if you want, but you pay the fees and we both have to agree on escrow agent.

How to order

- Website is up now. You can order at www.asicrunner.com (http://www.asicrunner.com). All devices are IN STOCK and are ready for shipment!
  I'm still adding more gear to the store so please check the site for updates.

Shipping

- UK shipping via Royal Mail Special Delivery Next Day Guaranteed™ - £6.95 up to 500g, and £8.25 up to 1kg.
- EU shipping via UPS or Expressglobal. Pm me for quote.
- Worldwide via UPS or DHL.PM me for quote.



LordTheron,

Reserved

will work in a proper powered usb hub im assuming. saw this a while back and was interested. looking forward for reviews and pricing. seems as more chips get added all the amount of other components gets lower.

i take it you need usb 3.0 to fully power it up?

No need for usb 3 hub, usb 2 works fine. You need usb hub that can deliver 2-2.5A or use usb injector cable (its like 3$) .  Today I've received  a prototype  adapter to use 2 usb ports for power so will need few days for testing before I can confirm if its working as intended.

Would like to reserve assuming the price is reasonable.

Reserved.

Interested in Mass Quantities. If the price is right.

Congrats! Very happy to see these devices for sale.  I'll be glad to assist in answering technical questions on this thread.

Congrats!

And here a nice picture of a beefed-up USB hub.
The low-cost adjustable 5V/5A power supply
allows for easy overclocking.

https://i.imgur.com/P6xF8hB.jpg

Make sure to apply sufficient forced air cooling,
hex•furys will run hot while overclocked;)

intron

(PS: The connectors sticking out from the
device are for firmware debugging only.
They will normally not be present.)

schweet!  Will update the StickMiners (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496) page asap :)

Edit: Done.

Minor question: Looks like it's using the Rev1 chips - any plans to offer it with Rev2 in the future?

I expect an expensive price!!

Good Luck!

I suspect it would be a pretty good price, actually.  Keep in mind that the chips are pretty much not the biggest cost of StickMiners as long as you can buy the chips in bulk (which, if you're going to produce, say, 1,000 stickminers, is entirely doable).  Of course there is the design (license) costs to get out, etc.

Based on the hash rate quoted (11GH/s), about $300 would make it very competitive with the Bi•Fury devices (especially since it requires less space than 3 of those, easier to cool, etc.), $250 would make it very competitive with the Yellowjacket (and you'd need 6 of those).  To be competitive (USD/Ghash-wise) with the Antminers it would have to be quite a bit lower than that.. but, again, this is a single device vs 6 of those.

The advantage of being just 1 device, being unique, etc. commands a higher price. Anywhere between $275 and and $325 would be more than fair, imho.  Not that I'd mind if they did pass on the relatively lower costs ;)

Crikey! If anyone wants 42-46GH of Bitfury power, in the UK, I'll sell you a Hex16B board for £150 right now! :o

But can I plug that into a USB port-and-only a USB port and be off and running?

Granted, some of the StickMiners are already pushing the definition and you need a powered hub that's happy to supply e.g. 3A per port - well outside of USB3 never mind USB 2 specs - but the definition (okay, my definition) stands ;)

Nobody ever said these devices make financial/mining sense - heck, often quite the opposite (from the description: "it is a perfect toy for people who like to "tinker" with things.") :)

You plug it in a USB port and power 70W from a PC PSU molex connector. Sure beats fiddling around trying to make a USB hub run more power than it was designed for. ;)

Hopefully these are cheap enough for the less richer crowd to afford seeing how 10 GH/s is not much now and in another month will be useless for BTC but we still have alt SHA. Another thing is can we purchase these x1 at a time or maybe lowest pack of x5. Also will you guys be selling accessories like usb hubs etc.

I've always wanted to mine with a bunch of usb miners and these might make this an option for me, hope everything goes well and looking forward to the reviews!

That's an awful lot of words for 'no' ;)

Yeah but neither does this by looking at intron's photo. :P

I think he's overclocking it.  The base configuration:
:shouldn't need it.  Again, it's still well outside USB2 and even USB3 spec, but not outside the norm for powered USB hubs (and I'm just talking about generic ones made to be able to charge tablets and the like that already like soaking up 2A or just refuse to charge, not the made-for-miners USB hubs).

its all about the price in this game ... so, whats the price ?

Yes, very much so:)

exactly. Interested but need that critical information

Congrats!
Nice to see Bi•Fury bigger brother will hit the market :)

Want.

If this costs below $300 it basically beats the price of the 10gh/s miner from BFL. Good job anyways.

but if you can beat technobit 60GHs 189 EURO (~ 260.71 USD)

Maybe not on price, but it's easy to beat them on customer service.

Price needs to be in the 200 range tops

I just want to know what the price is.

If it is $200 or less, I may just buy several.... ;)

I wanna hear the price.

Thread updated. :)

Pricing looks good to me :D

For a single unit, this places it just between the NanoFury Duo (NF2) and the Yellowjacket in USD/Ghash/s.
The VAT is a killer - I would almost add this to the 'pros' column of moving across the pond.

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Pricing with USD indication:

• 1-9 Units price is £160+Vat each -> $265 each
• 10-49 Units price is £155+Vat each -> $255 each
• 50+ Units Please PM LordTheron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101682)
• + shipping

(as of 2014-03-22, 1.64860USD/GBP, rounded to nearest $5, always check main post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523063.0) for latest pricing information)

+9999

 ;D

I apologize if I missed it, but did you say if it would be supported by cgminer? Where did you see the pricing? I must have looked over it.

The protocol is exactly the same as for the bi*fury devices (and also the same for the One String Miner), so cgminer already supports them.

First post has been updated with prices, by the way.

PSUs like these one?
5V 5A http://dx.com/p/5v-5a-iron-case-power-supply-silver-ac-110-220v-172347
5V 6A http://dx.com/p/5v-6a-iron-case-power-supply-silver-ac-110-220v-149660
5V 20A ;D http://dx.com/p/5v-20a-iron-case-power-supply-silver-ac-110-220v-124499

Or this 5V/30A PSU with a USB hub that was
adapted to carry high currents:

https://i.imgur.com/13gNLzA.jpg

Just playing around a bit...:)

Hi All,

Webstore is up now. Please visit https://www.asicrunner.com (https://www.asicrunner.com). First post is updated with details and some small changes.


LordTheron,

 

Nice one!!!

I use 8 Hex on this 20A hub. It is limited to max 2A per port so no overclocking there but works very nice and stable. If you have this hub, you can hack it  to bypass 2A per port limit and use 8 hex with full 20A. Ill post some more photos later.

https://i.imgur.com/QPOhuOtl.jpg

You ask £160.00=263 USD for a 11Ghas usb making just 20 USD a month  :D a price of all parts are 50 USD

I think you're being overly optimistic with that $20/month, but let's check...

device	analysis	financial positive ROI, ever?
HEX•FURY	https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/1849086c8c	nope, duh.  Why would you even think that's a factor when buying a Stick Miner?
Other device	https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/ec26b8d936	no? :(

I didn't bother with shipping costs and accessories required, e.g. powered USB hub or PC power supply
So, between two devices that are unlikely (though it's Bitcoin, stranger things have happened) to give a financial positive ROI, which would I rather have?  Heck, I'll take a HEX•FURY :)

Then clearly there's mad profit to be made - you should get on that right now :)
( no, seriously, I'd love to see more of these.  There's a gap in my list that would be filled nicely with a QUAD•FURY )

4 chips isn't enough to do a string design, so it would require a 10 Amp DC/DC converter, adding cost and board space. For the same space and price, you could make a 6 chip string design like we did.

Indeed. Obviously, the problem is not the cost of the components, it's the availability.

Bummer.  Tri•Fury it is, then ;) ( yes, I'm joking )

:o

You would be lucky to buy just a chips for $50 at the time of production  ;)

Lol, i got 32 of them one cost 5€

Great, go ahead and build your own and put this guy out of business! I mean you'll have to design the board, or pay licensing fees. Then buy PCB. And components. And heatsinks. And a pick and place machine. And a reflow oven. And write the firmware. And get support into bfgminer and cgminer. Don't forget to test! And of course if you want to sell them you'll have to set up a company, build a website, and pay all relevant taxes, not to mention getting the requisite certifications (we won't mention shipping and warehousing either). I imagine you'll also have to pay rent and eat and stuff while all this is going on, so I suppose you'll need a full time job until you can bring the units to market, which is going to necessitate 90+ hour weeks for 3-4 months at least, and of course there's always the risk that your miners just won't sell for whatever reason. But as you've already implied, that kind of risk and effort don't need to be compensated - the satisfaction of bringing mining equipment to the masses is reward enough, right?

Hi All,


20A USB hub is added to webstore, also tomorrow (or rather today ;D, bloody 4am here) I'll add some USB power injectors cables. Please let me know if you have any problems with the website, still fixing minor issues.


Regards,
Lordtheron

you might want to add link to web store on main page because i don't see one there. And in your signature

Its there, under How to order section. I will update and my signature later and make the link bit more visible.  :)

If anyone missed it, here is the link: www.asicrunner.com (http://www.asicrunner.com)

well, the link is sort of there .. but you're right - you really have to be looking for it :)

so you are talking about 1 device per hard-to-find/expensive USB hub and charger? That is insane - why on earth would you not opt for a 60GH single board that acts the same wa and could be powered from a PCIe cable or a molex thats alreay inside your PC?

A very modest contribution  ;)

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/11527/the-newest-fastest-usb-bitcoin-miner-of-the-world-hello-hex%E2%80%A2fury/

Good luck guys!
 :-*

At which point did commodity powered USB hubs that are already geared for up to 3A due to powerr-hungry tablets become 'hard-to-find/expensive'?  As soon as you get into the expensive region (still not hard to find, these 10A+ beasts can be readily found for sale around here, amazon, ebay, etc.), you're probably talking about using more than 1.  Your statement, it makes no sense.

And yes, Stick Miners make no sense.  we know  And yes, I'd absolutely opt for this instead of the big boards :)  (Unless it's one that gives a positive financial ROI, but then my purchasing reasons change drastically to begin with)

For a single device you need any hub that will deliver 2-2.5A. Not that hard to find and not very expensive. Also you can use 20A hub that will run 19 yellowjacket or nano fury or 8 hex without any problem or fire hazard. If you just want to run  1 device  I suggest something like this: http://imgur.com/LGTJrty. I am testing them at the moment and will have them added to the store at some point today if all is good. I'm also looking into 5A power supplies to go with usb injector so it can fully power 2  HEX•FURY and be used on any hub.



Cheers,
LordTheron
 

That's very nice!!! Thank you :)

At this price ($265 per unit 11 GH/s) the following bitcoin profit calculator showing that, the hardware cost will break even after 2 years+?
Ref.
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/

Can someone please confirm this?
Not sure what I am missing here.

May have made a mistake?  Since we can't see the exact values you plugged in, it's hard to say.

Edit: Well duh, it wants 1.0 if not messing with the profitability decline.  Silly thing.

Suffice to say, it probably wouldn't, but hey, maybe.

Edited-out part:

Difficulty: 5,006,860,589
BTC/block: 25.00
Conversion rate: 578.22
Hash rate: 11 (Gh/s)
Electricity rate: 0.15
Power consumption (Watt): 12.9 (11 * 0.86)
Time frame (months): 24
Cost of mining hardware (USD): 265
Profitability decline per year: 0*
As a result, I got: Hardware break even: >10000 days
* Since I can't see into the future to check what difficulty, exchange rate, and this recent tax decision are going to do, I've assumed that that it would generate a steady income.  It's rather more likely that it would decline, which means that break even would take even longer.
Edit: I'm incline to think the bitcoinx.com calculator is whack.

Crazy for USBs.

That's the problem with pounds... they are worth too much... you lose your wallet with the conversion into USD...

The price is too high in terms of investment, you are gonna get much more hashing power buy investing that amount of money in bitcoins and then buy gh/s in a cloud mining service... but you dont get to have the cool device...

For 265$
at current exchange value 265$ / 590$/btc = 0,449152542btc
0,449152542btc / 0.0108 btc/Gh/s (CEX.IO) = 41.6GH/s for the same price...

Quick update.

First units  have been sent out yesterday, and today. UK customers should get their orders tomorrow, US within next 1-3 days. EU up to 5 days, depending on shipping option.

I've included  USB injector cable for free so have fun and don't destroy your toy  ;D. Once you will get your miner and hook it up to good hub with min 3A  you will get very nice surprise. ;D  Your Hex will perform at around 12.5Gh out of the box. ;D Been waiting with this surprise till last moment.  ;)

Please see below how Mighty HEX•FURY is performing out of 5V, no OC, 3A hub. All units perform almost exactly the same so all of you will see higher performance. I hope this will put smiles on your faces. :)


https://i.imgur.com/1Ig3JXu.jpg

Yes, we all know this, but you should post this on Economy board for those who don't know it... with subject: "USB MINERS ARE NOT FOR GETTING ROI"

HEX is priced like other this type hardware on market and its worth it, maybe not like invest but like device, maybe you will not be able to see any more power full USB miner, ever on market.


GJ LordTheron

:)

Hell yes, gotta get me one of these.

Two actually, I'll round up the BTC and put in my order tomorrow.  :)

Except that you can't point your hashpower anywhere but ghash.io if you buy it off cex.io  :P

To everyone comparing USB miners to any other miner in terms of ROI, $/GH ratio, or whatever - stop. They will never yield more profit than if you had bought BTC with the money instead, and they will never offer the best $/GH ratio. Everyone knows this. You're not some kind of modern Aristotle for figuring it out as well. What USB miners offer is flexibility: unlike buying "cloud" hashing power you can mine whatever SHA-256 alt you like; unlike larger miners they don't cost multiple thousands of dollars and Watt-hours just to get started; and unlike straight up purchasing a given cryptocurrency you can buy them with a credit card or PayPal - none of this pfaffing around with exchanges.

If you consider yourself a "serious miner" and you've got hundreds or thousands of GH/s at your command, fantastic. I applaud your dedication and financial contribution to keeping the network secure. But don't you think that coming into merchant threads and moaning about how their products are too expensive for you is a bit beneath you? If you have the cash for a big miner, go spend 15k on 6TH/s from Spondoolies Tech and see how fast that ROIs (hint: it won't, not any more than any other miner will - including these).

Alright, rant over. Thanks for reading  :P

I suppose hexfury cannot work on a  pc usb at any hasrate, right?  ???

Not sure what you mean by any hashrate. If your hub is powered and is min 3A, that is sufficient to run Hex full speed as in my post above.   :)

I guess he might have meant "what happens if I plug it into a standard USB 3 port?  Will it hash at a lower rate with lower current, or will it not work at all?"

With possible follow-up question "what if I plug it into a USB charging port on my computer?" (the answer to that, depending on the above, being "check the maximum current it can deliver, it might be noted near the port itself or you should be able to find it in your computer's documentation/motherboard manufacturer's website)

Yes that question. Is it possible to operate at any hashrate if you plug it in a regular usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 directly on a computer motherboard? Not in a usb hub. I know usb 2.0 can provide 0.5A and usb 3.0 around 0.9A (?) so, will it hash, at what speed?  8)

Yes you can plug it in to any hub and it will work, or at least on most, so far i haven't found hub that doesn't work. The lower the current is the lower hashrate will be. I don't have any low power hubs below 2A so I can't tell you what hashrate will be. 0.5A is normally per port and if your hub can share current between ports without limit you shouldn't have problems with power on pretty much standard hubs. If you are going to use it on pc, usb 3 hub will work well, most of them are over 2A.

Hex works well on hubs  2A+, usb2 or usb3. ( on PI only usb2) . I cannot guarantee how it will work on hubs below that so its up to you guys to run it on setup that will meet the requirements. As I said should still work but not sure how well.

In fact, Hex hes been designed to be tinkered with so you should use adjustable external power for you hub, and this is when you will see its full potential.

 

syndicated fluff :)
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Hi Guys,

Review units have been delivered. Independent reviews will follow soon :)

Also I'm going to update the webstore at the weekend with some special offers so please check the thread for update.

I still can't take BTC payments through my webstore :-[  so if you want to pay in BTC then please PM me with your order  and I will send you payment details. It will get automated as soon as I find a solution.

Cheers,
LordTheron

Are you able to use Coinbase?  They have a simple a quick cart setup for BTC payments on websites.
I hope it helps.

Is it possible to get a single sample so that I can write a proper driver for BFGMiner? It sounds like this is currently recognized as Bi*Fury and shows the hashrate wrong.

Thanks in advance for any support  ;D

Yes I've looked at it and have merchant account but it doesn't integrate with my cart software, and that is the problem.  I can send payment requests directly from Coinbase  but all has to be processes manually. The cart I'm using now is very nice but no one is making BTC plugins so best option is to move my store to a new cart. I got one couple days ago ;) and rebuilding my store as I write this. Old webstore is working as it was and will be until new store is fully setup and domain repointed. All account  will be migrated and all users will be notified. I hope to have it fully up and running by the end of next week.

   

Dev unit will be shipped on Monday ;)

I see now.
Could be worse remember at least you are able to make sales still in the meantime.

The code assumes 2 job queues so I assume you worked within that framework despite the extra chips?

I don't think it is 100% the same.  There must be something different somewhere.
On BFGMiner with the current driver the current hash rate is show at half the speed it is running at.  On the same hand the effective speed shows up properly.
I have tried it on 2 different systems with the same results.
On cgminer it for the most part shows up properly but drops the pool connections frequently.
I will keep you posted as I finish my tests.
The unit itself runs nice and cool as well as fast.  It has been a great miner so far.  Once the driver situations are cleared up the skies the limit with this little beast.
I really like it.

That doesn't make sense if you're implying the driver somehow causes this. What do you mean drops the pool connections? Most stratum connections on cgminer stay up for weeks when pools are stable.

Not sure where the 2 job queues come from, but the firmware internally uses a single queue with room for 4 jobs. That's the same on bi-fury and hex-fury. The only difference is that the hex-fury jobs are processed faster because there are more chips, but this should be transparent for the driver.

For the OneStringMiner version with the serial bus, the job queue has been extended to 16 (but we're still experimenting with that), because it supports a total of 16 boards with 15 chips each, so it goes through the work a lot faster.

Maybe the problem is that the firmware version string still reports "2 chips", but when it submits results, it provides a chip number 0 through 5. That's the only thing I can think of that would be different between the devices.

I wrote the driver for BXF aka Bi*fury at the time and while it sends enough work based on the request for more work, it stores data in its API assuming 2 chips exist because that's all the original devices had. As I said earlier, it probably only affects the data that's shown in the API. A string of invalid chip number messages in verbose mode and lack of debug support for the extra chips is likely the only consequence, but I don't know how many people ever looked at the API output of these devices which I originally added to aid debugging of which chip was doing what:


EDIT: Shouldn't be hard for me to generically change it to as many chips are reported in chips, but I believe some earlier samples/firmware didn't report that so I'll add a workaround.

It could be as it definitely reports oddly.
It's still a fun miner though.  There is so much room to improve it's performance with low overhead.

And some new firmware reports the wrong value :(

Also, the OneStringMiner devices allow a simple serial connection to connect multiple boards through 1 'master' board connected to a USB port (potentially resulting in hundreds of chips). The firmware automatically detects and counts these boards, but this is done in parallel with the USB enumeration/initialization, so the number of chips could increase some time after the miner application request the version string. In theory, the user could even dynamically add some extra boards after the device has been running (although this would not be a common procedure).

I'll leave it as is then  ::) Only real concern is trying to write outside the bounds of the array and causing corruption but I think I accounted for the possibility of illegal values already.

If someone wanted to get per-chip statistics, the better way would be to have a dynamic list, which grows automatically when a new chip is mentioned in the results.

Of course, with the number of chips growing into the hundreds, the value of knowing exactly what happens in each individual chip starts to diminish. EDIT: also, measuring these statistics in the driver, with a high difficulty setting, produces very erratic per-chip results, unless you measure over very long times.

This is very cool.
The OneString and HexFuries are definitely build to expand.

I'm well aware of ways to work around it, but I don't think anyone's using the data so with so much else to work on, unless it's requested I'll just leave it as is.

I was actually thinking that the user interested in having better statistics would volunteer to do the work themselves :)

I'm not sure what is causing problems with bfgminer. It will get resolved soon. As to cgminer, it works flawlessly. I have 32 Hex connected for the last 24 hrs and not gtting any pool disconnections. Are you sure that your pool is not having problems?

It is not the HexFury I am sure of that.  It runs great on BFG despite the odd reporting.
It has run fine overnight though this time.
I am also running a OneString DIY1 that is running great as well.
I should be able to get the reviews of both done and up later today or by tomorrow morning.
The HexFury is solid and fun.  I really like it.  I also really like the OneString.  Solid units both.

Hi guys,

Review and setup guide are available now at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555471 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555471). Cheers dogie.  :)

I've put some generic changes into the new release of cgminer, 4.2.3, for these devices.

See:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg6051499#msg6051499

Interested. Do they have a CE sign?

Thats great! Thank you. Your dev unit is on its way, should be with you tomorrow  ;D

No they don't.  Last time I've checked, there was no requirement for CE  mark on usb deices that are powered from host PC. The device itself cannot function on its own and requires host PC (psu CE marked) running custom miner software. Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

I had a great interview with LordTheron on the HexFury and did a review of it as well.
The HexFury is really fun.  I still am blown away at it being so powerful and USB powered.
Check it out  I hope you all enjoy.  Thanks Lord Thereon for the excellent interview.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/hexfury-first-11ghs-usb-miner/2014/04/04 (http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/hexfury-first-11ghs-usb-miner/2014/04/04)
Happy Mining.

I received one of LordTheron's HEX•FURY units and have been running it for the past six hours on Minepeon.  Status page reports average temp of 55.9C (running with fan blowing on it) and average rate of 12.84G/12.01Gh/s.  I also want to thank LordTheron for hopping on Skype with me to help me with a few questions.  Based on my experience thus far, I recommend that you check out one (or more) of the HEX•FURYs.

Thanks man!

https://i.imgur.com/SuaU1fR.jpg


Having fun here with ten hex•furys doing 120+ Gh at 5V/21.4 Amps:

 cgminer version 3.8.4 - Started: [2014-04-04 23:03:13]
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 (5s):127.5G (avg):106.3Gh/s | A:24512  R:0  HW:11  WU:1508.3/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 2  LW: 14415  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 128 with stratum as user 1xxxxxxxxxxxx
 Block: be5ed1cb...  Diff:5.01G  Started: [23:13:53]  Best share: 8.29K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S ]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BXF  0:  63.3C         | 12.29G/12.25Gh/s | A:2704 R:0 HW:1 WU:171.5/m
 BXF  1:  74.5C         | 12.57G/12.47Gh/s | A:2992 R:0 HW:0 WU:176.2/m
 BXF  2:  59.1C         | 13.07G/12.96Gh/s | A:3856 R:0 HW:0 WU:182.9/m
 BXF  3:  70.6C         | 12.60G/12.97Gh/s | A:2624 R:0 HW:1 WU:181.3/m
 BXF  4:  61.3C         | 11.89G/11.48Gh/s | A:2592 R:0 HW:1 WU:166.2/m
 BXF  5:  73.6C         | 12.49G/12.17Gh/s | A:2656 R:0 HW:0 WU:174.8/m
 BXF  6:  79.5C         | 11.83G/12.97Gh/s | A:2800 R:0 HW:0 WU:181.4/m
 BXF  7:  69.9C         | 13.25G/13.22Gh/s | A:2880 R:0 HW:8 WU:185.0/m
 BXF  8:  71.0C         | 12.86G/11.66Gh/s | A: 768 R:0 HW:0 WU:181.4/m
 BXF  9:  74.9C         | 13.38G/12.61Gh/s | A: 768 R:0 HW:0 WU:189.8/m
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 [2014-04-04 23:19:26] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 127.998047
 [2014-04-04 23:19:28] Accepted 038c8487 Diff 72/64 BXF 2
 [2014-04-04 23:19:34] Accepted 869a89c4 Diff 487/128 BXF 4
 [2014-04-04 23:19:38] Accepted 0106e5a1 Diff 249/128 BXF 7

Very cool.
Can I put a link to it in my article for new users to have a quick link?

Thanks man, happy to help :)

Go for it mate ;D  As soon as my new store is up, I will also have overclocking guide, and RPI setup added here as well so stay tuned. Slowly but surely getting there ;)

Awesome news.
That rocks.

That is awesome mate!

Been  playing around with OC a bit, at 5.57V @2.4A  ;D 

https://i.imgur.com/npApXYMl.jpg

I am looking forward to upping the volt's as well.  You are getting great results with that.

The new version of cgminer also allows you to specify the bits on the command line as a complement to your overclocking attempts.

That is good news.
Thanks for the fast work on that.
 :)

You're welcome; LordTheron sending me a unit was the inspiration I needed ;)

Oh and if it wasn't clear, that command is in 4.2.3.

Very nice!  Hope they ship to US, would love to pick a few up.

Yes we do ship to US, just place an order on our site www.asicrunner.com (http://www.asicrunner.com) and choose your shipping type.  ;)

Do let me know when your website is ready to accept paypal or credit card. Thx
Looking forward from you

Will do, waiting for SSL installation on new host, and dns to propagate. I've been told that it will be sorted sometime today. I Hope...

Nearly there with the new site guys. After exchanging over 45 emails with support, most of issues are resolved. One left and waiting to get resolved Today. Once done new site will be switched on instantly . I will keep you updated.

My pricechecker complained - looks like the new site is up :)

Hi Guys,

Our new online store is up and running.  :) www.asicrunner.com Payment via BTC,  cards and paypal are now available.

All orders placed via old webstore will be shipped as soon as bank transfers are cleared on our account. You can still login and manage your old account via www2.asicrunner.com but please don't place any new orders there, it will get switched off once all old orders are shipped.  If you have any questions or need any assistance, please use contact form on our new site, PM me or email at info@asicrunner.com.

I'm in the process of migrating  customer accounts so please reset you password when you receive system notification.

Hey Guys can this miner mine other coins than BTC? Is it SHA-256 only?

I do the maths for ROI at the moment mining BTC doesn't look good...

Only SHA-256.

That's not the point of these miners.  As diff goes up people up graded from block eruptors to bitfury/ants.... bi fury now here is the hexfury. More ghs by swapping out usb miners. Its simple/cheap/low power usage. I started mining feathercoins bought a few ant u1s then saved and bought an ant s1

link to site doesn't work

What error do you get?

PayPal does not work:

Let me check that quickly and I'll get back to you shortly.

these are bait to get someone to join the coin gang so to speak.  you really need to offer a 'special' designer hub with these. 

That should work now so please try again and let me know if you have any problems.

Sure :) There's a prettier version now up at dogiecoin.com (http://www.dogiecoin.com/hexfury-usb.html).

Wasn't something similar already there for the bifuries? How different is this? Isn't default 50 for them?

No, the bifuries only had target temperature control and were always set to a maximum of 54. This allows you to set the maximum now in concert with the target temperature control. There are a number of different bitfury chip based usb devices supported in cgminer and they all have different clocking command line options.

Excellent.
I will add that there.
Great guide site by the way.   :)

I received one of these devices courtesy of LordTheron, thanks!

I've committed some changes to cgminer master git to detect the number of active chips on the fly. It will now change to hexfury while running even if it reports the wrong number of chips to start with (this one reports 5).

Display output:

API output:

EDIT: Actually extended results only ever seem to indicate 5 chips as well.

Average after 24 hours: 10.47GH

What hub are you running it from? I only see this on hubs below 2A or cgminer 4.2.3. If you have min 2A hub you should get around 12.5GH even over 24hrs. Just kicked off 24 hrs test  to see what I get on my hubs. Also why are you getting HW errors on cores? I get none (maybe 1) without OC.

I have been testing different versions of cgminer and I found that 4.01 works almost flawlessly. On 4.2.3 I get usb errors and random crashes, and slower speed. Any idea why 4.0.1 works so well but not the new version?

Probably not enough power then. Does it only initialise 5 chips if it can't power up all 6?

The usual reason for an older version working better would be: sheer coincidence and nothing to do with cgminer. Though of course any bug is possible, however I'm not seeing the instability you speak of. The only change in the bxf driver between those versions was making bxf bits configurable on 4.2.3. What OS are you running it on? Are you giving it any extra options, bxf or icarus?

Probably is the power. I've given my hex 6A and its rock solid for hours at ~13 (stock speed).

I'm not sure about initializing chips so I need to ask c-scape. If after couple of minutes your speed is below 12gh usually it means not enough power. Been running couple  sticks since yesterday and both are just over 12GH.

Im on win7 64, no extra options. No crash since yesterday with 2 devices, and 2 crashes on xp machine with 37 devices.  When I enable bxf bits over 54 my performance is doping drastically. I'm back on 4.01 with no options, and its running sweet at 12.5gh rock solid. ;D not sure why is that but for now im goanna stick with 4.0.1 as it seems to work best for me.

XP is an interesting variable in the equation. If it's on windows, would it be too much to ask to try a debug version using the instructions here?

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/debug/

This webpage is not available  8)

I was just on there it worked great for me.

So you charge $198 for the gridseed I wont revel the actual price.
300 khs + 8ghs
or
11.25

11gh stick is $192

Why would anyone choose the usb stick over the gridseed?

Re-read thread - this has been covered several times.

Site is working. Make sure you use www.asicrunner.com (http://www.asicrunner.com)

Just read how much power Gridseed is drwawing in btc or dual mode and you will have your answer.  ;)

I will do that sometime tonight :)

I don't pay for electricity, maybe should have added that.. ;).

Not everyone is so lucky as you :P Also can you OC your gridseed up to 15GH? Don't think so... ;D Hex is 50% faster  out of the box and can be overclocked to almost double the rate of gridseed ;D

Issue resolved  ;D it was my xp host running out memory and crashing cgminer. Added another RAM stick and now up for over 24hrs and no problems at all.   

Hi, I am using cgminer 4.2.3, where the changelog says that hexfury should now be called HXF, no BXF, yet I see mine is still called BXF?

From gitbub it does look like the actual change may not have been in the 4.2.3 release, change made the 10th, 4.2.3 released the 3rd?
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/commit/c72d7a7813450c98d3fabc2328e0461cc83f743f

I always run with verbose, and I also get lots of the already mentioned invalid job chip number messages, would be nice to have logs cleaned up.
https://github.com/KnCMiner/cgminer/blob/master/driver-bitfury.c#L481

Is there a place to download nightly builds of cgminer for windows?

P.

The changes in 4.2.3 were generic before I received one. It has since been fixed in git but there is no release with the new changes yet. I do not do nightly builds at this stage, but I'll likely release a new version tomorrow. It being reported as a BXF will NOT adversely affect its performance by the way; it's only cosmetic and the extra information in the API if you are reading it.

Thank you.

Hi, any hints on how to get this to work with BFGMiner?
I am also running NanoFury II's, and these are not fully supported by CGMiner, half speed, so I need to use BFGMiner.
But BFGMiner does not like Zadig/WinUSB drivers.
And my Windows boxes do not auto install drivers for the hex fury (tested in W2K12R2 and W8.1).

What standard/BFGMiner driver do I use with hex fury, where do I get it?

P.

It would be the same driver as for the BiFury. Search the forum a tad. I remember it being posted

Yes for now it uses the BFGMiner BiFury driver.
Soon it will have a better version and handling I have been told.

As the bifury driver is not signed, problem for x64 systems, I created my own self-signed driver for use with BFGMiner, get a copy of mine or sign your own here:
http://blog.insanegenius.com/2014/04/16/self-signed-bitfury-drivers/

P.

New cgminer is out and it fixes all issues with Hex*Fury and improve speed. Works really well. ;D

Cheers ck!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.14960 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.14960)

Sorry if I missed the answer. Will hexfury start on regular 500mA USB2 port? If yes what is the hashrate?

Edit: gridseed chip in dualminers consumes only 1.5W. It seems there is other reasons than power budget to not add up another chip or even few.

if it does it will be very very underpowered. so expect like 3-4 ghash

You should (but not guaranteed) get Hex running on 500mA port however I can't say how well and how stable its going to run. 500mA is way to low and shouldn't be used to power Hex. The design of Hex requires sufficient power to be delivered otherwise your device will not perform as or above advertised speed. Just to give you quick idea see below.

- 2A+  hub will give you 12.5GH-13.5gh no OC
- 1.5A hub will give you 10.5-11.5GH
- 1A   hub will give you  6-8GH
- 0.5A -Don't even bother as may get strange problems.

With OC, Hex will use around 2.4A @ 5.6V and will give you 14.5-15.9GH.

Edit: Just to add one thing, is is very bad for your Hex to be run on 500mA port. If all chips will get initialized, its fine, but if one or 2 chips will not get initialized properly(which is very likely on such a low power), the other chips will get overclocked automatically and will get very hot and even unstable.

Hey guys,

I've been playing around with razorfish hubs for a while and finally got around to modify it to remove 1.5A limit per port. I've modded 6 ports  for testing and results are awesome. Before the mod, Hex would happily hash around 11.5Gh max, but with the mod same units are 12.5-13.3GH and thats without OC. 76.9GH avg out of 6 devices  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/BIZIrJh.jpg

I am interested in the details of your mod?

Just remove P110 fuse, and bridge the pads with a bit of wire. That's all  ;D Also make sure you don't connect more than 8 Hex miners to RF hub after the mod as there will be no limits what each port can draw from psu and you don't want to overload it and brake it.

Edit:

I've noticed that if you remove fuses, you can adjust the voltage on RF hub and it will overclock your Hex  ;D I found 5.25V works really well and its not frying the hub. With fuses the hub will perform worst if you adjust the voltage but without fuses does the job well  ;D

Over 18hrs, 6 sticks @ 5.25V 78.5Gh avg, not to bad ;D

https://i.imgur.com/QulVvNzl.jpg

Ps. All modification are done at your own risk. Please make sure you know what you are doing as I'm not responsible for any damages that might cause if something go wrong.

Have fun  :)

Trying to purchase, but no payment methods show up during checkout?

Are you trying to pay by card?

I add items to cart, checkout as guest, enter contact and address details, select shipping, go to payment step, and there is nothing, no options for any type of payment is offered, it just says "No Payment Methods".

Edit: To clarify, this is a shopping cart failure on the razorfishsolutions.com.hk site, not the asicrunner.com site.

Yep, i get the same problem. If you want the 19 port hub then you can buy it here on bitcointalk thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418087.0

or

www.eyeboot.com

It is cheaper and it works :)

In stock with immediate shipping!

The payment was disabled  whilst I ensured that no one was exposed due to the "HeartBLEED" bug.  
Website should be fine to use now.

But if you contact me directly I'm offering  'free gifts'  (That does not mean a 'shitty key chain')

You can contact me here for hubs.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560003.msg6105890#msg6105890


Also for people not 'comfortable' about modding the hubs I can supply an adaptor.

and of course great work/hats off to 'LordTheron'



RF

I would appreciate if  you keep your adverts on your forums. This is Hex*fury thread! Thank you.

I just posted a new version of cgminer, 4.3.3, which has a fix for a huge memory leak which has always been there with the driver for this particular hardware. All users mining with this hardware on cgminer are urged to upgrade.

Nice sticks, anyone achieved 15 gh/s  ? How much Wattage are they using ?

Hex is using around 10W. So far I've managed to push it to over 16gh and 15.7Gh avg. See below :)

https://i.imgur.com/j1tRnMkl.jpg

does anyone in the usa have one of these to sell?  I don't mean any disrespect to the threads op.

 I just wanted one to play around with. I thought someone near my state of NJ might want to offload one.

New prices for Hex*Fury, Gridseed, and YellowJacket in store. Also free express shipping worldwide with orders over £500.

Please visit www.asicrunner.com (http://www.asicrunner.com)

intron or c-scape, how did you guys make your modified usb hub? I really would like to know. If it is possible, could you point me to some design? I would like to make my own and not buy pre-made.

It is fairly easy, you would require an off the shelf hub that can withstand the current, then you would need to replace the 'Shitty' wall wart/phone charger with a better power supply, and you will require some sort of soldering experience/mains voltage experience/safety etc


When you say 'make your own',  at what level are you thinking:

A. Off the shelf assemblies (ebay hub/power supply)
B. Design your own PCB/ power feed systems, using discrete components and  soldering irons?

RF

Great review by nwoolls
http://blog.nwoolls.com/2014/05/13/bitcoin-mining-on-mac-os-x-hex%E2%80%A2fury-asics/

I cheated a bit:) Took a Trust ten port USB hub (cheapest one
I could find), removed the cover, soldered wires to the positive
terminal of each USB socket connector and soldered a thick wire
to the ground plane. The wires were then connected to a 5V/30A
low-cost power supply unit. With a current clamp I measured the
current.

See picture:

https://i.imgur.com/13gNLzA.jpg

And then with hex•furys:

https://i.imgur.com/mZUuhfw.jpg

Nice looking hex flower Intron :)

:)

Thats very nice Intron.  :) Does it get hot with 10 Hex*furys?

Yes:-)  I used three fans to cool the set-up.

Building "Hex flower" out of RF hub  ;D. Curious if the board will handle the current for 19 Hex*furys... Thats almost 40A

Is the HEX•FURY 11+Gh/s USB Stick Miner still in stock?

The only place that really sells them.. http://www.asicrunner.com/HexFury--11GH-USB-Stick-Miner_p_9.html ..says it's in stock.

Is there a other brand whit miners like this?

Check out my StickMiners - Where FUN > ROI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464496.0) thread.  Note that right now, the NF6 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582243.0) (another 6xBitFury chip model, but by the designer of the NanoFury) is missing as it's not for sale anywhere as of yet (currently in limited production, as far as I know).

I got my HEX FURY today. Ordered at the 20.May, I got it 3 days later, delivered to Switzerland from UK. Thanks guys...

I plugged it in my DELL Precision M6700 with USB 3.0, installed the driver, and started cgminer. Connected direkt to the Notebook, or using the split cable with my extra 5.2V/3.0A power adapter, makes no difference. The HEX FURY get's over 80C in less then 2 minutes. That's the moment I unplug and burn my fingers.
In cgminer it get 12.6 GHs right away.
Anyone made the same experience ?



Update:   Got answer from ASIC Runner in minutes, WOW, cool ;-)

You must use powered usb hub with 2A power per port or the injector cable. Also make sure that you use a small fan to keep your Hex below 82C. It is normal that is getting hot, depending what ambient temperature you have.

Any small fan will do the job well, all it needs is a bit of air circulation at the side of heatsink. not much tho.
Don't  worry there is nothing wrong with it, it gets hot as any other device passively cooled :)

Sounds about right. They need active cooling...

GoogleBit
What is average speed without fan (with cgminer throttling)?

Just saw this pop up: How To Mine Bitcoins With The HexFury ASIC USB Miner (http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/27/how-to-mine-bitcoins-with-the-hexfury-asic-usb-miner/) [techcrunch.com].  Oh, and for those who missed it: It's currently on sale for another... oh dear, 57 minutes. Only GBP100 (was: GBP120)

New Deal of the day is store, Hex fury only £99 and Group Deal on Yellowjacket £10 only! Visit www.asicrunner.com (http://www.asicrunner.com)

New price on Hex*Fury, only £95! Good deals on volume orders!

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