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I read this news today.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-fight-golovkin-freddie-roach-says--149298

What do you think about this fight, Manny seems like to break his current record to be the ninth division champion.


If this fight happen, who is your bet?

Manny Pacquiao is one of the kind, he is already 41 years but he can still beat fighters at their prime.
I think this is a good fight, GGV is 38 years old but still an explosive fighter, I think if this fight happen, it's gonna be an explosive fight, both fighters will be going forward to knock each other.

Manny is going to make history again if he win in this fight, he will be the only 9 division champion in boxing,

I'm wonder who is the favorite between the two based on the betting odds.

 Yes, Mane is getting old, but he's still a strong opponent, and he's going to try to hit his opponent with all force to drop him for the ninth title!!
The prospect of who wins in the confrontation remains difficult because GGV has a desire to win the title too.
 ;D I will place my bet for ggv.

Manny Pacquiao did not mentioned about retirement in any interviews he has ,meaning he will continue going up the ring until that notice comes out His mouth because the Man is always open about Plans in future.

And i believe that there are still political strategy in this part because he wanted to stay famous until the Presidential election in the philippines happen in which he is one of the aspiring candidates .

and also even if he aged 40+ now yet He is still fit for the fight so yeah this might happen soon.

Win or Lose mate,Manny will always make History because He Himself is already a History.

but of course we all love seeing Him win.

Nice to see one poster already voted for GGV, I voted for Manny because he is my favorite fighter, I know GGV is good but I like the strategy of Manny in the ring, this time he is facing a fighter who is not already in his prime, so I guess Manny will win convincingly here compared to his last fight.

This would be the best boxing fight this year if it would really happen. If we still alive we will witness another record-breaking moment in boxing history. This should be done because Pacquiao will retire at any moment because of his age. No matter how good he is right now if he is getting older. their fight will not be the same as it used to be. now is the right time for this fight to happen, even though Manny has reached the age to conclude in the sport of Boxing, he still has the passion the hunger to fight the best of boxers out there. we could not really tell if it's gonna be the same next year though.

What a coincidence.

I am just reading the Top 10 boxers of all time and Pacquiao is second in it.

https://www.spin.ph/boxing/mayweather-pacquiao-go-1-2-in-top-10-greatest-boxers-of-all-time-a793-20200603

Either way, I think Manny Pacquiao really showed how strong he is and he is not just considered one of the best, he already is one of the best boxers all time. He is the pound for pound king, and the funny thing is that Coach FR talking about Pacman running for Presidency which I don't think will happen.

Floyd rank at number 1 is unarguable, he was an undefeated champion, but I know most fans would choose Manny over him as Mayweather is boring to watch, he just love to run and score, he is a kind of boxer that knows how to manage the risk inside the ring, he called himself the money because he generates money, but I believe fans are buying tickets or paying PPV just to see him lose. ;D

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Obviously my vote goes for Manny.

So far Manny is winning the vote obviously because of his last performance against Thurman, but they are fighting in the middleweight, which is too much for Manny, Golovkin is a natural middleweight, Manny is known for his speed and accuracy I have little doubt that he can carry that speed to that weight, this is the first time I doubt about Manny because he is not getting young if they ever fight I hope not in the middleweight but on a catchweight like 150.

I thought he will be fighting crawford a much younger boxer but i guess there's no merit for him in those fighters as they're only rising stars.
Golovkin is a perfect match and it might trigger floyd to come out of hiding, if that is his main goal.

I thought it is Garcia, there are a lot of hype about their fight months ago and both fighters have agreed but the contract is not yet signed, everybody wants Pacquiao they want to be the fighter to retire Pacquiao, and Manny wants a bigger buck, but the fighter who can give him a mega buck fight is Crawford, Golovkin is also dangerous and Fighting triple GGG has a lot of risk.

Well, I am not expecting this match up but I kinda like the idea. If he's not gonna get Mayweather then setting a new target that's equally interesting is not bad at all. I can consider this as a legacy fight for both boxers. I bet GGG's camp would easily accept this if offered with decent terms.

Younger, taller, and at his comfort weight class - it has to be GGG.

At least that's what I want to happen so I can bet on Manny with better odds  ;D

I love both these fighters but i do not want to see Manny Pacquiao taking on Gennady Golovkin as he is a murder and Manny was into many battles and he is having a duty as a politician while Gennady Golovkin is completely focused on boxing and the battles he had against Canelo Álvarez was great and i do not see Manny Pacquiao winning this because of the height and size difference, if this fight took place 7 years ago i would have given him a chance.

Well, I brought up here the image that came from the OP, if you look it regarding their physical comparison Golovkin has an advantage of heights and it is taller than Manny Pacquiao. But as a fellow countryman of Manny Pacquiao, I am going to support him whatever happen on the ring. I believed that this legendary boxer will continue his career in the boxing industry. Indeed, this bothers in my mind, it is a great career move for Pacman to fight GGG?

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Well, my boxer idol Manny Pacquiao is a great warrior and he has better odds here.

At 41 years old?Manny is still Fit and faster (but of course i doubt if he can still beat ages 30 and below with speed and accuracy ) But there is still some fight to expect for Pacquiao before He finally Leaves the ring for good.

And like what the Post above says?there is a  chance that Politics is still Behind why Manny is still wanted to go fight when he is already super rich and can even live luxurious for the rest of His life.

Golovkin can out-punch Manny on the first few rounds, no doubt, but if we are going to talk about stamina, speed and quickness, Manny has the edge and can go toe-to-toe with Golovkin for all 12 rounds. The only thing that Golovkin has to do is to either seriously injure Manny while he still has full stamina and his punches are still strong OR knock him out cold, but the latter is just not going to happen given how defensive Manny has become with his last few fights after Mayweather. Defense-wise, Golovkin can take some heavy punches, but I'm not sure how he's going to survive at 8 rounds or so when he shows some exhaustion and stamina depletion.

I'd bet for Pacquiao in here not because of the record or hype, but seriously, all stats aside, Pacquiao is the better fighter in most aspects.

I just have to agree with this. I finished Golovkin's highlights all I can say is that he is a strong puncher, he is bigger than MannyPac but as you have said MannyPac has the edge on stamina, speed and quickness coz I also noticed the exhaustion of Golovkin on the latter rounds of his fight with Canelo. He is not used to finish the 12 rounds of a box since he often finish his bouts after 6 to 8 rounds, so maybe there's a chance that Manny could go after depleting his stamina before going toe-to-toe.

Me too, regardless of his age, he is still MannyPac, the only 8th division world champion and soon to be 9th division ( crossed fingers ) Seeing the powerful uppercut of Golovkin in the 12th round of his fight VS Canelo makes me more to be favored with Pac. You guys should watch that clip so you'll know why.

I have been a fan of Pacquiao, even though he is from a different country in the Philippines, I have to put a thumbs up on him, it is he who currently survives in the boxing ring which has an elite ranking of the world, he is among the senior boxing bettors who are currently in the Asian continent, even though Pacquiao is now 41, Pacquiao still seems to be in his 20s.

Pacquiao, has won 62 matches to date, Pacquiao, as far as I know, is a reliable boxer who has a lethal, left-handed style, who has won boxing, world champion, in a different class.
If, they bet for sure, there is no doubt I will place my bet on Pacquiao's side.

Well I think your picture is a little bit exaggerated. Golovkin is 5′ 10″ tall while Pacquiao is 5′ 5″ tall. There is 5 inches between them.

They're both getting old to be honest, but I think that Golovkin is just too big for Pacquiao, particularly now that the Pacman is over 40 years old.

GGG was competitive with Canelo back in their last two bouts and that was just a couple of years ago. Everybody knows that Canelo is one of the greatest to ever do it in any weight class, and GGG managed to keep up the pace and arguably won their first fight.

I know that Pacman is a multi-weight champion, but I think this is biting off more than he can chew. I also think it would be his highest ever weight fight as I'm sure GGG isn't going to come down in weight.

I predict this will be the fight Pacman gets retired in. GGG is a god damn savage, he will probably knock Manny clean out if he hits him with the same bombs that Canelo took.

Fighting at 160, GGG has the advantage. But as always, Pacquiao is proven to be more aggressive when fighting at the top weight class. I can't say that 160 is safe (as Roach considered it as risk) but if Pacquaio really wants it, I'm on him.

There are only a few boxers who still want to do something more on their career even they are almost in the retirement period.

GGG is deadly. Pacman is deadly. Hard to speculate who has the advantage. There are lots of times Pacquaio surprised everyone especially when he was considered an underdog on the match.

One thing for sure, I like to see this match badly. The time now for another great fight to witness.

However, this is just more of a "plan" for now. Not even at 1% progress.

Their age is both good to match up, Pacquiao still wants to fight and Golovkin is almost 40 as well. Both of them are pressure fighters and I think this is gonna be a good fight so why did it take so long for them to arrange to fight against each other when it should have been done while they were younger.  Golovkin has the advantage, a little younger and I'm not checking it but probably a reach advantage too.

Pacquiao had been fighting with bigger opponents before and he had a way to beat them all, its going to be uncertain when facing this beast. Getting near Pacquaio however, is Golovkin defeat. He had to be careful when getting closer to Pacquiao.

Pacman couldn't even knock out Adrien Broner... Do you really think that GGG wouldn't have stopped Broner COLD?

Pacman is also struggling to maintain his knockout ratio lately—only one KO in his last 10 fights, and that was against glass-chin Lucas Matthysse. For comparison, GGG knocked out both Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls lately, and only narrowly lost against the GOAT Canelo. Before that, he was blitzing out everyone and still has a knockout rate of over 80%.

I honestly think Pacman would be stupid to take on this fight, though it would definitely be a huge payday. I expect GGG will deliver a brutal KO the likes Pacman has never seen before.

Manny Pacquiao and GGG are both nice, humble and great fighters on the boxing scene, it's an interesting match.

I knew that Pacman has the ability to be aggressive on the match but I doubt his stamina will stay much longer in the fight, he's too old and barely practice unlike when he's not a Senator.
Also, based on the size, Pacman is too small and yeah, I know that size isn't just the only factor in boxing, but let see. Still hoping for Pacman to win this match.

Got the picture you are pointing. But let's not conclude things right away as looking for Pacman's opponent's past fight is not actually a good reference if Pacman can able to handle it. The way you are describing the fight of GGG, you got carried away to the point that Pacman is just a chicken compare to GGG.

I see Triple G has more of the advantages, no doubt about that, and he is used to bout on middleweight class (154-160lb). I'm not blind at his deadly performance and his record tells it all how deadly he is. But it doesn't mean that Pacman can't handle him.

I really don't like to discuss technical details until the fight has clear progress to happen. If this match will clearly set, let's do gambling here, you for GGG and I'm for Pacman.

It's not the first time that Manny fought a bigger and a taller boxer in his boxing career, he fought De la Hoya, and Margarito.
Since you are showing the picture of the fight, you can also check this out.

BEFORE
https://www.15rounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/pacquiao_margarito20weighin20101112_002a.jpg

AFTER
https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/pacquiao-margarito.jpg

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Margarito is taller than GGG by 1 inch, he is 5'11"

So we should not be surprise if he will beat GGV in this fight, of course if they will make this a done deal.

another before and after and of a fighter taller than Manny.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/01/10/282C3B0600000578-3063123-image-m-13_1430470971567.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/01/10/2832300C00000578-3063123-image-a-14_1430470979421.jpg

Agree, if this fight pushes through, it would be devastation on the side of the Pacman. Manny has fought fighter bigger than him before but it is on a catch weight and besides he was on his prime that time. This fight won't take place, too risky for a guy who had everything on his life now, money-wise.

But if they would twist this one and the two will meet at 150 lbs limit then i think Manny had a chance  :). This is the only way he would beat GGG.

We have 9-1 in favor of Manny, so I will assume that you are the only one so far who voted for GGG.

Well, you got your point, GGG could send Pacman to retirement but I think the probability of that happening is below 50%, that's because I like Manny to win and all we are saying here are just our bias opinion as both fighters are good but in overall stats and achievement, Manny does excel against GGG.

The Canelo who beat GGG looks like an amateur when he fought Mayweather, I would not think GGG is some kind of a special boxer though.

GGV does have an impressive Win-Loss Record with only 1 loss. But when it comes fighting to Pacquaio, I don't look at the stats but rather let's take the discussion on the ring on the actual fight.

Let's not be deceived by the power of GGG because of his much clean records. Pacquaio on the other hand also has an impressive record that involved top boxers. For me, they are equal in strength but Manny is much quicker.

I will be biased for Manny here not just because I'm from PH but when Pacquiao wants to target a fighter, he is determined to take it down.


GGV will also be like that. Both fighters are not on their prime already but they can still stand till the last ring bells.

And Pacquaio maintained his shape regularly. He won't stop doing exercise as he is not yet retired. It's not just reported on TV.

On this weight division then it would really be hard to tell that Pacquiao would able to pull this up yet we know on what GGG is capable of. Going for another weight class specially for this one wont really be a simple one.
GGG is monstrous and i doubt that Pacquiao could handle it but maybe if this one would talk about speed and agility plus punching power then there might be chance.I havent voted out on the poll because its really hard
to choose which one would able to pull this through and same as yours im already excited for this match and if there were rumors then there would always have that chance that this one would push through.

Manny Pacquiao likes to fight with a boxer who will face him straight and also aggressive like him. This is a very good match since Golovkin is also someone who likes to stand up in front of a fighter and not run around like Floyd. Both of them had proven their skills already. The problem is that there is Covid. It might just be for the PPV. I'm gonna be betting for Pacquiao win or loss.

That would surely be the arrangement since we are still on a pandemic situation then we would see another event with having no crowd or simply being remoted.
It doesnt matter though as long this fight would happen or be arranged.Lots of people will anticipate this one and when it comes to PPV price then expect that it
would really be more higher compared to its normal price wayback but to understand that this is the way on where they do generate revenue then its understandable.

Im with Manny Pacquiao on here because he do like aggressive opponents the question is if he would still have the stamina compared to Golovkin? for belt
to belt stance.

Thank you for your insightful comments guys, I created this thread but I forgot to vote, lol.. anyway voted for The champ.


Same here, we like to see both fighters being aggressive so the fight will not be boring.
I can see some possible scenario going to happen if Manny will beat GGG, next event would be a Mayweather vs Canelo rematch and if Mayweather wins, Manny vs Mayweather 2 will be next, then they can both peacefully retire.

I think he has still the stamina to fight, if he will stay in shape and do the training like in his previous fights, I am more than positive that he has still the power. I also do like fighters who fight toe to toe as it is not boring for the audience, either PPV or actual. But more than likely, it will be PPV as large crowd in the coming months is still not advisable to most sports. I don't like fighter like Floyd as he is calculating his moves to the point that he is running away from his opponent. Pacquiao is like a street fighter, he will not stop unless he doesn't have the energy to box anymore. So yeah, I'll still go for Pacquiao in this match.

If this is a prime Pacquiao, I could see him and win against Golovkin. But at the current version of Manny? No, he will take more damage from the Margarito fight and could end up being knock out in the mid to later rounds.

We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.

@Russlenat - You can't compare Manny vs taller guys like Anthony Margarito and and ODLH vs GGG.

You have to look at why they obviously cherry pick those guys when Pacquaio is at the peak of his career.

1. ODLH was already way past his prime that time.

2. Anthony Margarito yes he is powerful but he is too slow.

3. Both fights are in catch weights.

And we don't know why Freddie Roach is talking about fighting GGG. Maybe he is just excited to see Manny in the ring, but GGG, I don't think so.

If this match will ever push thru, it will be an exciting fight to watch.
And if in case Pacquiao wins, then, he again breaks all those hesitations in the boxing world towards him.
So when will we know if this fight will gonna happen?
Gonna be interesting if they truly push this match...
People are still rooting for Pacquiao here based on the poll.

And I thought it would be Mikey Garcia.

We've been talking here about it and we thought that if Manny could fight Garcia, Manny would clapped Mikey Garcia. I am not belittling Garcia, it is just that it is clear that Manny could KO this boxer. In terms of Golovkin, I think this would be a fight just like Margarito where Manny would be fighting another fighter with height advantage against him.

Age is just a number for Pacquiao, he is still capable to fight younger boxer and confident to give his country another honor.

On the other side Golovkin is quite tall and an achiever boxer too. This would be a good fight if push through.

I will look forward for another fight of Manny, for sure it will be exciting again.

Mikey Garcia, Spence, or Crawford, this is the front runner for a Pacquiao sweepstakes. So we really don't  know how Golovkin's name came into picture.


Pacquaio for most of his career, specially when he move up to the Welterweight division has been fighting taller guys. So I guess we can say that he is comfortable is that zone. However, GGG is a natural 160-168 lbs, so not just height but weight advantage. Manny's camp should not take this, there are more bigger fish to fry in the Welterweight division.

Let's do the math here:

>>Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De la Hoya

The fight was for the regular welterweight division (147 lbs) but Oscar is just 145 lbs during the weigh-in and Manny was at 142 lbs. It was very visually notable also that Oscar did not re-hydrate after the weigh in and Manny was the bigger fighter come fight night. Manny was 29 years old then and Oscar was 35, plus the fact that Roach once trained Oscar and the former quoted "Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore" thus making this fight on Manny's advantage when the two climbed the ring.

>>Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito

The fight was for the WBC Super Welterweight championship (154 lbs) but in a 150 lbs catch weight. Margarito was 32 years old and Manny was 31, not a factor on this fight but the 150 lbs catch weight really was a factor.

>>Manny Pacquiao vs Golovkin (Proposed)

Manny Pacquiao is campaigning at 147 lbs while GGG at 160 lbs. Manny is 41 years old and GGG is 38. Both fighters are on a downhill of their career.

IMO, even if the fight will take place at 154 lbs, Manny would still lose as GGG will be too big for him though a little slower than Manny but he is a heavy puncher and a single punch from him would slow down Manny. I'm a Pacman fan and personally i don't want this fight to happen as this would damage Manny's health.

On the other hand, i think this is just a hype so Manny's name will be talked about in the boxing world but the real target opponent of Team Pacman is Mickey Garcia.  :)

GGG is definitely not the "best out there" as Roach portrays him, not anymore at least. As a matter of fact, his performance lately has showed that he has indeed aged.

Manny has a higher chance to win against a bigger opponent in GGG at the latter's age.

But I don't think this match possibility has even reached the party of GGG yet. This is more of a speculation right now. For a long time, GGG has chased Canelo. He's gotten old but he didn't forget that he has yet to finish his business with him. He still wants to get that chance for a revenge.

The GGG-Canelo trilogy was actually already agreed between parties, and was hoped to be staged on Sept. 12. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233606.0

I'm one of those who voted that GGG will win. I'm a big Manny Pacquaio fan, but here is my reasoning.

First, GGG is too big for Pacquiao as Manny says. He fought Margarito at a catch-weight, and then Margarito rehydrated to 170++ lbs if my memory serves me right. And for me that fight really 'soften' Manny. He received a lot of body punches that time and Manny admitted that he was really hurt during that rounds. So think of GGG, one of the best body punchers out there could do to Manny.

Second, Pacquaio is almost on the downside of his career. It's hard to accept that fact but sooner or later he will face a boxer that could retire him and it's possible that it could be GGG.

Not unless that Roach saw something in GGG that he seen from Oscar, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". But I think GGG still has something in his tank.

Manny still has it and many people believe that, a ninth title is possible but GGG is not Margarito who catch all punches in his face he is a counter puncher and a big puncher I prefer them to fight not in the middle weight where Golovkin is dangerous a catch weight is good like the super welterweight or light middleweight, the additional weight could slow down Manny.

Coudn't agree more! Manny admitted that the fight between him and Margarito is a rugged battle -- what more if his next opponent would be Gennady which I think is too much for Manny at this time.

Still, the age difference, height and Tripe G's only one loss from Canelo is a huge risk in Manny's winning percentage. If this happens and Manny manages to win this fight, I would consider him as the "Greatest boxer of all time".

Definitely, it will be an exciting fight to watch. That is a big "IF", but as I have said, this is a lose-lose situation for Manny, catch weight fight, fighting when Golovkin is already on the downhill. Again, no question about it we all love Manny here, but this is not for his best interest, specially health wise as GGG is not a regular fighter, Manny might seriously get hurt here. Let Golovkin finish his trilogy with Canelo and let Pacquiao fight the best of 147 division. No need for them to cross path, specially at this point of their careers. And after his win against the biggest guy he fought in Antonio Margarito:


https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/15132011/ranking-manny-pacquiao-eight-division-titles

You cant really say he hasnt something on his tank and with this kind of stats?
https://i.imgur.com/13Xhvky.png

Do you really think that we would see him without giving a fight? With that KO percentage 83.33%
I would say that this shouldnt really be taken easily by Pacquiao and also he should be ready on
strengthening his lower body even more as we can see with one of GG explosives which are mostly on
solid body shots.

Would this man cut himself some slack. I mean, do he even know how to take a rest LOL or do he just love fighting that much.


I agree, man. Am not trying to drag down Pacman here. But he's aging and showed that he slowed down. Manny might be good for first few rounds but as the match up goes on he might not be able to take up with GGG.

Upon his last fight with Keith. If Manny didn't knocked down Keith from the early down, he possibly won't win there. As I see Keith took up the next few rounds there. What I am tryin' to point out here, Manny isn't the typical Manny who can go all out, all in 12 rounds. Simply because he's old, that's it.

Looking around some updates with Manny, well, I stumble upon Bob Arum's wish here (https://sports.abs-cbn.com/boxing/news/2020/06/05/bob-arum-wants-bring-pacquiao-crawford-bahrain-68601). And it seems more realistic than Pacquaio vs Golovkin. But whatever, Pacquaio shouldn't take the fight whoever between the two.

GGG has slowed, I noticed the same but Manny looks like a young Manny who can beat a younger and stronger fighter than him, that is because of his technique in boxing, also, his experience and being the only 8th division world champion made his confidence to boost high, and no opponent that he will not agree to fight with. GGG is big, but Manny has been fighting big opponents in his career.



But would this be more interesting than the Manny vs GGG fight? I mean I believe GGG vs Manny would generate more money for both.

I like the GGG vs Manny fight, this is better than the Canelo vs GGG IMHO since people have already seen them fight before but this is a new one, Manny is looking for another history, this will hype people and as we can see when Manny fight, he has a lot for fans in the ring, and I agree with you that this will generate more money for both, good for a boxer who might retire after this fight.

GGG is not too much for Manny. He is bigger of course but I believe Manny can handle him pretty well.

Coach Freddie would not be considering this fight in the first place if he believes his fighter does not have a chance.

Manny is already the greatest boxer of all time. No other boxer in the whole history of the sport has ever been an 8-division world champion.

If the fight would happen, that would be a great fight, this is the best time for Manny Pacquiao to show his strength to everyone even though he is already 41 years old, he is still great at boxing, he strength of his left arm is still the same as before and the speed is somehow the same as before, that is why Manny Pacquiao is really great boxing. I am also in Philippine so I would support him instead of Golovkin, I don't know much somethings about the opponent of the Manny but I think it would be still great because it's a fight of Manny. It is always interesting to watch Pacquiao, aside from being a humble boxer, he is really a good person, he helps so many people here during the lockdown.

Yes, I noticed the majority referring to Manny, Given the historical record of Boxer Manny We will really find that it is superior to ggg!!op  But this strong fight I do not know if it is possible for Manny to withstand the missiles that will be directed by  golovkin  ;)

Read the article shared by the OP first mate before joining the conversation.

For your convenience, here's what Freddie Roach said:

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Yeah, Manny had some renaissance lately but let's not also forget that he's going to fight at 160 and at an older age now. Maybe he could still handle punches of his opponents at a lower weight class but we can't say the same for guys who are naturally fighting at 160.

I do not know that Manny the people's champ will fight again. I thought, Manny will apready stop fighting but anyway whatever happens, I go with Manny. I still believe that even though his age is going to be any younger, he can still win it. He has a good strategy, just hoping that he will be in a very good condition when he fight again.

He just sign a contract with a new promoter, PBC, we don't know the details yet, but I think the minimum should be a 3 fight contract. He just had one, winning against Thurman, so probably we will see him fight 2 more times.

It's more of a strategy, Manny is a champion, he has tons of experience, he is a warrior, he trains very hard to have a good condition. He just defeated a young champion in Thurman, so no doubt that he can still fight. But his chances are slim against GGG because Gennady is a powerful boxer and too big for Manny.

We dont know if he's still maintaining his shape until up to these days because it seems he's been to busy with his job as a senator and we
know the disadvantage when a boxer doesnt really maintain up its form.He bet up previous opponents even he's on the government position
though which proves out that he can handle it well but if he tries to fight GGG then he shouldnt really be that too confident.This guy is also
a heavy puncher but somehow this one is lacking speed compare to his but lets see on how this one would play out.

^ Probably he is because as I had to know Manny Pacquiao is very serious about his career. It means when its time to his career he become focused on the training and I think that makes his self-discipline and until he can maintain to take care of his built. At the present age of Manny Pacquaio, he can still fight like a teenager and speaking to that his age, I remember this line somewhere in the article and I did not remember where it is. He said, “I’m not thinking about my age, I’m just thinking about what I can do for the fans".

As long theres a fight that would be arranged then he wont really refuse such offer because we know that this one talks about money.
Theres no doubt on Pacquiao capacity yet he had proven out that he's a Legendary boxer that can take whatever kind of opponent he has.
Climbing up on another division? this wont really be that easy and we dont know if this fight would make him retire in case he would
lost this fight from Golovkin.If not then expect for future fights to happen.

This is the real take on this match up, Manny Pacquiao is not a match up for Gennady Golovkin because of the size difference and there is nothing left to prove for Manny Pacquiao at 41 years of age. He is still fighting to raise money for his charity works and he should not fight bigger established fighters, i am fine Manny fighting new fighters to raise money but not GGG.

This fight has a higher chance to happen than the Pacquaio VS Mayweather Fight. I think this can be the last fight of Manny Pacquiao win or lose. Even though he still has the passion and skills to fight, he needs to give the spotlight to the youngest fighter and end his legacy here. If he managed to win, then his professional boxing record would be the most difficult record to beat in the entire boxing history. to complete it all to 10 different weight class division is way too impossible, 9 is would be good for him.

I also want to see Manny end his glorious career in a safe way not getting knockout just like what happen to other great fighters, if the fight push through I hope he is in great shape and a win against Golovkin is just enough to end his glorious career, he has nothing left to prove and you are right that his record  is very hard to beat, 8 division title is almost impossible to attain.

There might be some rumors about it, but I think Manny Pacquiao as a current senator of the Philippines will not make this kind of decision, as he promotes ECQ and stay at home policy, he will not let his fans and viewers to see him going out especially outside of the country for a fight. Even though there are memes circulating that when manny is in fight, people across the Philippines are always at home. Streets are clean, no traffic, no pollution but again, him as a senator will not tolerate himself to have a match outside, especially with his sports that mainly promotes physical contact.

Pacquiao fans think this fight against Golovkin is crazy. There's a big downside to this Pacquiao fight Age, Weight, and Height. But it can happen that we are wrong and Pacquiao is the winner, everything will be due to his good training and experience.

Who told you that Manny PAcquiao Fans look at this game crazy,Do you know Manny's fans?and are you even one of us?

Yeah there are some points that we don't really agreed about tbhis fight but it doesn't mean we will not support Manny in this fight.


Every Boxing event of famous boxer like Manny has a market analyzation thats why they are getting the peoples reaction if this opponent and fight will gather viewers and supporters,if not then they will look for another opponents.

And whoever fights Pacquiao, has a sure fat paycheck. Also, a lot of them are grateful just to fight Manny Pacquiao, considered legend even by boxers. If you will watch previous interviews of his past opponents, they have good words for Pac, maybe because Pac is not a trash talker also and a good person in and out. But will vote for Pacquiao on this one as well.

That's 99% guaranteed, Manny will again earn millions of dollars and if he keeps fighting, I think soon he will become the richest man in the Philippines.
His biggest payday was when he fought Mayweather, that's why he like to have a rematch with Floyd but it seems Floyd is not anymore interested.


The last opponent of Manny which is Thurman are good in trash talking just to sell the fight, but after the fight, he showed big respect to the senator, we boxing enthusiast know that Thurman is just selling the fight, real trash talker are Mayweather and Bronner I guess.

Manny wanted a rematch against Floyd, to redeem himself against the undefeated and make some good cash at the same time.
Indeed, it was Floyd Mayweather whom here earn a good payday, and after that, he hasn't made money close to what he earn against Floyd.

you can see the graph.

https://www.esquiremag.ph/money/movers/pacquiao-boxing-earnings-a00200-20190119

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/06/07/manny.jpg

Against Thurman's fight earning was not updated in the article yet, but we can find it. The picture was posted just to show some comparison and to have a good based  on how much Manny would make against Golovkin.

When Pacquiao fought Dela Hoya which is taller than him, he defeated him with a TKO. When Thurman fought him where Pacquiao is much smaller, he defeated him thru a decision. When it comes to Pacquiao, height advantage is just a nahhhh for him :D. Height advantage will not work against him and we saw it with his past fights through the years.

These 2 legendary boxers did already their best inside the ring and they are somewhat old already but if these will happen then it would be a great fight for him. If Pacquiao will lose to this fight, there is a high chance that he will retire probably because his momentum is still on as he continues on winning consecutively. GGG also won in his last fight also. I will support Pacquiao for this fight if it will happen but the chances of this to happen is low probably because of the pandemic right now.

Rather than the age gap (which is not much, IMO), I am more concerned about the weight gap. I understand that Pacquiao has fought in 4 different weight classes during his career (Welterweight, Flyweight, Lightweight and Featherweight). But he has never participated in the Middleweight class, in which Gennady Golovkin belongs to. So I am not sure whether this fight can go ahead.

I think Manny Pacquiao can still dominate his opponent because of his speed and being furious inside the ring. I know that there are people who are saying that Pacquiao is already old and he is not in his prime now. Golovkin is really a great fighter and is unpredictable in the ring but we can't conclude a result.

This matchup can really make a lot of money because people still want to watch money inside the ring. He is a crowd favorite and he is really relentless and he respect his opponents with all his personality. That's one of the traits that i'm looking for in an athlete.

Sometimes we just really to think of the possibilities that Manny Pacquiao can still fight even if he is already not that fast enough to dominate his opponent. Goodluck to the both of them!

Manny Pacquiao is also a Senator in the  Philippines and at this moment I just don't think if he is still going to be interested in a fight in the boxing ring because the COVID-19 pandemic is just a big problem already for the country.

Without the COVID-19 Manny is going to fight whoever wants to fight him in the ring, He still has the speed and power to fight even he already have the legacy and could retire at any moment.

If he is not Manny Pacquiao I guess I will vote for Golovkin but It's Pacquiao this man has done amazing things in the past and the only one boxer in the world who has the 8th Division Championship. Absolutely, My bet is for Pacquiao. The opponent is younger and Pacquiao is the one who adjusted in these weights divisions. Yeah, I have some uncertainty but it does not matter All in for Pacquiao.  :D

Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octuple_champion) tells us that he is the only one with eight different weight divisions.


He is on the losing side if Golovkin will take the advice of Floyd. Floyd has the only equation that can outmaneuver Pacquiao which is why he was lost, the running frustrates Pacquiao. This is a fair fight but then Golovkin knowing how he fights might not ever survive if he maintains a close distance to Pacquiao. So he'll probably also use his reach advantage.

I am for Manny Pacquaio in this match.

I have been waiting for His next Fight so if this will be happening this year?then i have saved my betting amount for Him.


Yeah this is the problem if Manny needs to adjust.this can be disadvantage in His part but i am still believe in Manny's capacity to win in His fight.

I don't think it will happen this year. I've heard on the TV news last Saturday (as a far as I remember) that Bob Arum is very optimistic for Pacquiao vs Crawford to happen before this year ends. Here's a reference that you can read: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/06/crawford-vs-pacquiao-possible-for-bahrain-in-2020/

So most probably his fight against GGG would happen next year.
Oh yes! I still do believe that Manny can pull this off. It's undeniable that he is old but let's not forget that he is not an ordinary old man ;). He can beat younger fighters despite of his age.

Pacquiao is the underdog in this match. So he must work harder because the reward in the end is very promising  — breaking his own record. I now excited for this!

So do I, with the chance to see Pacman fighting again, much bigger name / opponent placing bets on him, also serves as showing support.
I will be glad to give him this credit since he really brings pride to the country and this sport.
With his age and with his busy schedule, coming up to this fight means more complex preparations, additional sparring drills, and lengthy
trainings.
He still has everything, the speed, strength and stamina. He just needs to focus on this fight because age is just a number.


But remember mate that Manny lose one of His fight because He is the one who adjusted so there are some things that we might considering before favoring Pacquiao in this fight.

Yeah we already seen His skills and ability but with His age?i maybe neutral un this Event.

What fight are you referring, is it the fight against Mayweather? If that is exactly what you meant, then there's no doubt that Mayweather was the better fighter, his style made him undisputed in boxing though he wasn't really as entertaining like Manny Pacquiao. If there's a rematch between the two, Mayweather would still remain the favorite of the fight, despite being inactive for awhile now, that's unquestionable.


His age is not a big factor in this fight, Manny is not old at 41 years old while GGG is already 38 years old, just 3 years gap compared to Manny's last fight.

Hopefully this match can be realized, I am among those who always follow every match Manny Pacquiao. And its advantages there is
a very high determination, although the age of Manny Pacquiao is not young anymore but the spirit is still high. Then for Golovkin who
has a higher posture, of course the reach of his punch must be further than Manny Pacquiao. I think Manny Pacquiao will win this boxing
match, with an unyielding spirit I'm sure Manny Pacquiao will overwhelm Golovkin. And the scary thing about Manny Pacquiao is that his
fists are very hard, this makes me sure Manny Pacquiao will definitely win.

I'm looking forward for this fight to realized always, at least we will see a good fight before Manny will retire.
This fight IMHO is undoubtedly going to be one of the best fights of Manny in his career, he is going to face a caliber boxer here which what he wants to engage.

GGG is like a raging bull which is fit for the style of Manny, he like a fighter that would fight him toe to toe and GGG would give him that anytime.
If we say the last fight of Manny, there are rounds in the fight that Manny has struggled when he is pressurd and I think GGG is bigger and stronger than Thurman, so this is definitely an interesting fight.

We're not sure about that ;). For sure his charisma to the audience is decreasing, because like what you've said, he doesn't have a fight for quite a long time. While on the other hand, Manny keeps on building his legacy which ables him to attracts more supporters. But to be honest, if they will have a rematch in the future I'm still not sure whether Manny can take his revenge. Mayweather's Shoulder Roll seems impenetrable.
Indeed and I believe he can defy this odds. I think Manny should use to GGG the technique he used to beat Margarito before because they almost got the same height. His speed could be his trump card as we know that he got the reach disadvantage :). 

As for me, I believe it will still be one of the big payday of Pacman once the game is on for the rematch.
Mayweather as an undefeated and one of the best boxer in the history of sports will still able to sell a fight, man, they know how to hype a fight, and based on personal experience, I've said many times in the past that I would not watch Mayweather's fight again as it's boring but I still end up watching it, for sure some people can relate to my experience, and just to prove my confidence on the fight, I'll bet with you that it's gonna be a big payday fight for both.

Yeah that's right. If you will ask me, I will choose Many Pacman Pacquiao not just because he is my fellow Filipino men but because I know he can win this fight because nothing is impossible for him and he will fight for his belt as long as he can.

Just want to add one point. Even if this fight goes ahead (despite the huge gap in weight), don't expect any fireworks from either of the two. Both the fighters are well past their fame and I strongly suspect that they are trying to earn a few million USD, to boost their retirement savings. Unlike the case with their previous fights, both GGG and Manny don't hold any bad blood against each other.

Both professional boxer.
Both absolutely still an explosive boxer.
Both last fight won.

It would be hard to say for now and I wonder who's odd will favor. :D

The fight would be awesome if it happen.

@Vishnu.Reang I don’t think that this match will actually take place this year, because Manny suddenly can’t weight up to match Golovkin weights, and the only way this match can take place is if both agree to a middle weight match, but again the possibility of this is less. Furthermore Golovkin has his trilogy matches to complete against Canelo, hence he’ll focus more on those matches, but if anyone has any confirmation about this match do post below because I couldn’t find anything about it online.

Source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8392123/Manny-Pacquiao-vs-Gennady-Golovkin-Q-Sportsmail-answer-key-questions-potential-super-fight.html

When the two professional boxers fight in one ring it will be difficult to make a choice, I'm sure you have the name of choice for betting, my choice is Manny Pacquiao because of the right punch and accuracy and really likes his fighting style that never gives up.

Oh.. OK.. For a moment I forgot about Golovkin's 3rd fight versus Canelo. I watched both the matches where GGG fought against Canelo (online live streaming), and in both cases I lost some amount betting for GGG. There was a lot of controversy surrounding the results. GGG was at the receiving end due to biased scoring (especially by Adalaide Byrd during the first one), and he will be looking to extract revenge.

As a Filipino, I hope Manny wins the fight if ever the fight plan materialized.  But as we all know, a fight between two great boxers is unpredictable.  So I think the one who has a much better assessment of his opponent will win.  But in case Golovkin has to lose weight to fight Manny, I think Manny will have a little advantage over Golovkin but that is not an assurance of victory for Manny of course.

I know Manny is old and not young anymore, but I see Manny is a hard worker, of course, I will choose to bet for Manny's victory if this fight happens

How about you consider that Manny Pacquiao is the only 8 world division champion? What I'm afraid for Pacquiao is his speed, his last fight I notice that he is not speed as he was 3 to 4 years ago maybe that's one of factor to consider also but it's middleweight and triple G is not that quick also in the ring, all he got is a power punches which I think Pacquiao could easily dodge and hold, he fought Thurman which is a lot taller than him, triple G is thicker in body size so we'll really see if this happens.

They both in not ideal age for boxing, that's what I think so I'm just basing my favor for who has the most experience in boxing, most number of main event fights ( handling pressure from crowd ) Still Manny Pacquiao for me.

Manny is not as fast as he was in the past since he has already aged, but if you look at his recent fights where he won, you can see the maturity, he is not as aggressive as he was before but he is smarter now because his defense has improve a lot. He knows how to win a fight and that is the most important for any boxer.


There will be no heavy favorite in this fight as this is more like an even fight, like a Thurman vs Pacman fight.
We can take a look on his previous fight odds.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2844606-pacquiao-vs-thurman-odds-projected-winner-and-prize-money-purse

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/06/09/odds.png

If you see GGG during his last fight, he struggles against Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Everyone says that GGG will win by a KO but it didn't happen and he was in trouble in that last fight. That's why perhaps Roach see something that we didn't see. The same thing he did saw in Oscar that's why they fight him and won.

However, I still believed that GGG can still pull the trigger and even if Pacquaio strengthens his lower body, it won't help him as GGG is too big for him.

We can translate that odds to ;

1.70 Pacquiao
2.1 for Thurman

If this is going to be the same betting odds for GGG vs Pacquiao, I'll take Manny even if he is favored.

Yeah, I know Manny Pacquiao very well (coz I am Filipino). By looking at MP last fight (January 2019), that gives us more insight about his current capability.

GGG won at Sergiy Derevyanchenko at 114-113 score (close fight), but GGG struggled to win the fight. Looking at it, Manny Pacquiao can still (probably) dominate the fight if he is still in the same condition against his last fight K. Thurman.  

I agree with you here, this fight won't happen as they may be problem on what weight they would meet and basing on the article, GGG won't go south of 160 lbs and for Manny to fight at that weight is a suicide, besides there are now talks that the later would fight Crawford. This would be less dangerous for Pacquiao but still a dangerous one for him.

I'm not sure if Manny can make this fight because of adjustment and also the age difference things that very important advantage of each boxer.

No doubt that Manny is Fit and can fight but the chances of winning is not on His side here,I admire Pacquiao from the beginning of His career,from Non Pro in local tv station until now,but i have doubt in this one though i will still bet for him with small amount of course.


Nice stats mate,i have not looked on that part thats why i doubt this fight but yeah lets see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Still Manny Pacquiao will be our Peoples Champ.

We all know Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time, but I can't really say if Manny can win this fight because of the huge age difference to Golovkin. After Manny defeated Thurman he proves that age doesn't matter in boxing because he defeat it fair and square, so let's see if Manny has a chance to defeat Golovkin who also a great boxer.

Huge? Not so huge man.

Manny is 41 years old while Golovkin is already 38 years old, a 3 years gap is not huge.
The real definition of huge age gap was the fight between, Manny vs Thurman (31 years old) and Manny vs Adrien Broner (30 years old).

And Manny both won his lat two fights against younger opponent.


He beat a younger fighter so he can beat Golovkin which is older than Thurman, but it's not about the age now, it's the size of Golovkin.

Fight haven't been officially announced and yet it's just rumor spreading around, but, yeah, we like to see something new and I'm confidence Manny Pacquiao have a great chances to win this fight if it ever happen, and that would make him 9 division world champion (even better than fighting spencer).

That will make Pacman improve his ranking among the greatest boxers in boxing history, so since it's Freddy Roach who is spreading this, and that is coming from Manny's camp, we can say that Manny want this fight, so it's up to GGG if he will agree with Manny as for sure he would also make a good payday once this fight will be realized.



It is, this fight is better than Manny vs Spence or Manny vs Terence Crawford.

Golovkin is the most feared fighter in the Welterweight division and a natural Welterweight and still reigning despite facing a pretty good boxer Canelo. Manny maybe his first true test, i only wish that they've faced sooner when they we're still in there prime.

What we will witness with this fight is a man to man fight because they are both determined to knockout one another. Unlike the fight where Manny fought May Weather, this is something different. You will see no cheating because both fighters are legit boxers not some runaway scam fighters like how Floyd fights.

Mayweather IMHO does not cheat, neither the judges, he won convincingly because Manny can destroy the defense of Mayweather and he seemed to be quicker than Manny, and since he Mayweather got the length and the height advantage, that made him easily win and just through some good counter punch to Manny.. Manny though did not admit that he lose on the fight but the mere fact that he made an excuse about the injury, it's just like admitting he lose.

Golovin won't go below his weight class and it is not possible for Pacquiao to go up in order to fight against GGG. Crawford vs Manny may happen this year, according to Bob Arum. I hope that GGG may agree to a fight against Pacquiao next year, but as I said before there are a lot of practical challenges. In case the fight happens, then it will be one of the biggest in Manny's career.

Coach Freddy Roach crazy thoughts about this fight might be swayed by a promoter. I hope when this fight happen, I am not daydreaming.

I don't think Manny Pacquiao will look at the money he will earn in this fight. He always thrives for challenges when the obstacles are tougher to handle.

I am pretty sure that Manny will win this fight because he is really a hard working person. He wouldn't waste his time for nonsense thing whenever he has a fight. He makes sure that he will win his battle that's why he spends a lot of time in training and he has discipline on his diet in order to maintain his weight.

Against Crawford? Maybe. During the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight, I thought that Manny had less than 10% chance of a win. But still he won that fight. But against Golovkin? It's going to be impossible. Just compare Manny and GGG side by side and you will get the picture. Golovkin is huge. He would stand out like Goliath in front of Manny. If this fight ever happens, then GGG would be having a heavy advantage.

Thats why we do have division in boxing and Pacquiao would need to cope up with the required weight for him to be able to pass that weigh in which is 160 lbs in Middleweight division and since he do after with this division then he would need to go into that weight which i can say that it will surely affect its speed and footwork since he's not get used to this body mass.

On an interview from GGG on where he do said that Pacquiao is just too small for him which is actually right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIfFlY9lEG0
but he would stood a chance since GGG isnt really that a too moving type of boxer. Hard punches = yes, but for footwork and speed then we can say that
Pacquiao does have the advantage.

GG wouldn't be confident standing in front of Manny Pacquiao when a right cross hits his chin. Of course, Golovkin has the advantage here. He is younger and probably still in training while there is Covid while Manny just sat in his office wearing mask every day and doing paper works.  Manny doesn't talk much but we just have t find out in the ring when the rumble starts. I like to watch fighters who go forward all the time like Pacquiao and GGG, a good match to watch.

There are lots of fights wherein Pacquiao seems to be the underdog. People are mainly looking at stats without realizing it won't work on Pacquiao. Even some boxing analysts failed many times that Pacquiao will lose example vs. Margarito, vs. Cotto, vs. Thurman, vs. Dela Hoya, vs. Mosley although not that big compare to GGG, still, Pacquaio is the underdog.

I'm not disregarding the stats of GGG but he too is already past his prime.

The match will be equal and both fighters have advantages and disadvantages. It will now depend on who's strategy will win.

Please get your facts straight before posting, GGG never campaign in the welterweight division in this entire career. He was a natural Middleweight, 160 lbs, so I don't know if you really know your boxing or what.

That's true he is a natural middleweight and that makes him a big puncher, and he can make fighters coming from lighter weight to adjust to his punches I have seen him knock out several guys with just one punch, although he is dangerous I bet Manny Pacquiao to win the match, I hasve based him in his last fight besides being my countryman.

I do not understand why you say Floyd Mayweather is a scam fighter, he is the best defensive fighter in the history of boxing and the game is about to hit the opponent and not get hit and in his entire career he was able to avoid punches in his face and that is not a talent you can ignore and if that was easy then all the boxers would avoid getting hit as no one likes to get hit in the face to make money  :P.

Just understand a boxing fan who likes to see a good fight, but was disappointed because the fight of Manny vs Mayweather ended up a boring fight.
It's  one of the biggest fight in the history as both boxers made a lot of money int he fight, but it wasn't majority of he fans are looking, they are just dissatisfied.

Actually people know that Mayweather is a boring fighter but they are rooting for Manny to win so he can give Mayweather his first loss and personally I was hoping a KO win by Manny although I know it's hard for Manny to do it against one of the most defensive boxer in the sport.

Normally Pacquiao is very agile and swift, but we need to remember that this may no longer be the case due to his age and lack of practice. GGG on the other hand is still in his peak form and I have no doubt that any potential fight between Golovkin and Pacquiao won't last the full 12 rounds. If you are confident about Pacquiao, then you can make a bet in favor of him. The odds are going to be very attractive. But first of all, the chances that the fight will go ahead appears very remote.

I hate it when old fighters come out of retirement, it seems stupid. Manny is on of the greats, sometimes it’s a good idea to honour your memory by staying out of the game. When they return they're never as good, he has enough money, he doesn’t need this.

I guess there are casual fans who doesn't like the 'sweet science' of boxing. They don't like fighters like Floyd who is a defensive genius. Manny will have a hard time against a big boxer like GGG in my opinion. He shouldn't take this fight, let him stay at welterweight and GGG gets his revenge from Saul Alvarez. Besides, I never heard GGG calling Manny because he knows that they are in a different weight class.

Obviously I will put my bet on Manny Pacquiao. The fact that they are considering this match means Manny can win against Gennady "Triple G" Golovkin. Though can Manny really do the weight change? If this will be the fight, I will really beat on MP. Another boxer against him with a height advantage, Manny can knock him down or beat him up.

The match will be won by Golovkin, the height difference is of course make Golovkin's benefited. Then make Golovkin's fist reach even further,
This benefit will be utilized by Golovkin. And Golovkin's age difference is younger than Manny Pacquiao too, this is another benefit for Golovkin.
But Manny Pacquiao has tougher punched and also a high fighting spirit, this makes Golovkin won not easy.

many Pacman Pacquiao is the best boxing fighter which is the one and only man who break the real records of all boxers in history through the help of some sponsors aside from their own efforts so actually this coming main event is more on exciting to show how our greatest fighter use their newest techniques to survive and maintain the boxing career.

If this is for real, the rumors about Manny Pacquiao taking his retirement won't happen. Although, he hasn't mentioned about his retirement and there's no official words from him that he's going to retire, he can still fight and do what he want.

But the most surprising news that I've heard about him was Arum talked about his presidency. But he himself followed up and denied all the words that came from Arum but who knows?

This is still rumor, GGG will have a schedule fight against Alvarez, and Manny is looking for this options. The name of Mikey floats around, but it's not yet final as well.


Politics is very different game though, we all know how dirty the politics is in the Philippines. It's really up to Manny to decide and no one can tell him to run for Presidency or not. Don't believed anything that Arum says specially which pertains to Manny's career in politics. They are no longer connected as boxer-promoter relationship, so just typical Arum spewing lies because we all know that Manny remains the most hype boxers around besides Floyd. And Arum still wants to ride the bandwagon.  :)

Uhmm, I think you are just a very avid fan of the Pacman that you bet on him without first examining the opponent and this time you will lost your bet but fortunately for you mate, this fight is not gonna happen. In the first place, team Pacman is not considering this fight, it's only Roach who spread this rumor and he ain't the trainer of Manny anymore, he will be in Manny's corner as a consultant AFAIK.

Manny have the luxury of cherry picking his next opponent and it would be between the two Garcia's (Danny and Mikey) if he can't get that rematch with Floyd Mayweather.

Thanks for that. I thought that this is final, I haven't gone through other links and articles verifying if Golovkin vs. Pacquiao is already on the go. If Golovkin will have his match with other fighter then we shouldn't expect this soon, there will be a lot of preparations and negotiations before this fight happens.

A'right I thought that there's something to do with their talks and they still have connection to each other. Well, Arum probably just want to get attached to Manny as long as he can since his name is still clicking to boxing fans.

Reading your post, yeah I guess you could say I am an avid fan of him. Been betting to him since he's putting a show on every flashy ring he went up to, either Las Vegas or in other places. Though it is not that I am underestimating his enemy. Triple G is a great boxer, I just remembered how people debate like this when Manny fought against Margarito which is also a great boxer with a great advantage in height against Manny. I just thought that it would be the same.

I don't care about everything but if this Fight settled and declared?i will Bet for Money and care about nothing.

Manny Pacquiao is soon to retire(maybe 1-2-3-5 years) but even though in near future we will never see Him fight again above the ring so why bother about anything?lets just enjoy His last moments in boxing world,let us bet what we can afford to lose like what we does in our investments here in crypto.

So Viva Manny Pacquiao.

You can't compare Margarito and Triple, the only similarities is that they are both tall and natural bigger guy than Manny Pacquaio. And Margarito was very slow and just move forward because he has a great chin. Manny did destroy him and it was a different version of Manny back then. Today, Pacquaio have lost his step and seems to be gassing out in later round like what we have seen against Thurman.

Be careful with using the word, Money is Floyd, Manny is Pacman. ;D


If you say 5 years, I think that's a lot of great fights that we can still witness, Manny is fighting GGG for another world record, imagine, if he beat GGG in a title fight, he will be the only 9th time world champion in different division, currently he is the 8th and no one has already made it in history, but him.

Im confident he can do it too but this fight is not official yet so we have to wait for their announcement if this will push through.

Well Pacquiao is indeed successful in his boxing career but I heard he is planning to run as president on 2020. How true is this?

He might really retire being a boxer if this rumor of him running in high position were true.

Age is great factor and do really affect everything from speed to reflexes to stamina etc. We can see the difference in age but not really that much since Golovkin is already 38 years old as i remember.
I dont know why people do presume out Margarito with GGG as we can see the difference between fighters and i can say that ggg is way more dangerous and much better.
I still doubt the winning chance of Pacquio on here even if he do have the speed but it would really be enough to take him down? It would be hard.

Agree, in every sports that we're playing even where very skillful and have a lot of experience on it, when our time comes, we must let go. Especially on this kind of sports which requires a lot of stamina, Pacman is too old and Golovkin is 3 years younger than Pacman so there's still a gap between them. I want Pacquiao to win but I guess it'll be really difficult for him to fight GGG. The size factor is not a big deal since Pacquiao already defeated boxers that's bigger than him.

Maybe older, but not too old.
Age is just a number, if he survive and win against Thurman in his last fight, then there's a better chance for him to win in this fight.

Pacman vs Thurman (31) and Pacman vs GGG (38)... I think if we only based on age, Thurman is a harder opponent.

Also, I believe that Pacman likes GGG because he is slower and he can use his speed advantage, and Pacman just have to avoid getting him, as that is going to be his weakness in this fight.

People here have spoken, 32-10 in favor of Pacman . :)

Who's coming out of retirement?

Pacman came out of retirement years ago and he's actually been dominating.

GGG never went into retirement as far as I'm aware.

Their age range isn't massive, and they're both still doing well. Sure, it probably won't be a crazy fight, but it's definitely better than watching B-grade fighters.

Edit: Casted my vote for GGG, he'll absolutely stomp Pacman, he's just too big and has a granite chin.

Manny Pacquiao should have stayed retired and there is no point in fighting still but i would not mind seeing a rematch between Floyd Mayweather and Pacquiao but thinking about fighting a much bigger fighter in Golovkin is ridiculous, i hope this is just a rumor as nothing is going on right now as Manny have other fights to make money rather than taking on much bigger fighters. He proved himself and there is nothing else to prove.

Thurman was the stepping stone of Manny on why he is back now, and these young fighters wants him but it's difference when Manny chooses and I like to believe that as he choose GGG, he is capable of betting him more than we think.

I respect you vote for GGG, may the best boxer wins.


Do you think Spence and Crawford belongs to B-grade fighters? ;D ,... because I do.

For the record bro, Manny never said that he wants to fight GGG. This idea was floated by Roach as i mentioned in my previous post. I also tend to believe that at this point of his career, Manny is so smart that he would not pick this fight.


Then who are the A-grade fighters for you, for me, those two are.

As far as we know, Manny didn't retire for job, he just took a break after his controversial lost to Jeff Horn. And when we made his comeback, he won successively, and against Thurman, he became the older Welterweight to win. For now this is rumor, and I'm sure most boxing pundits are going to pick Golovkin because of his sheer advantage in height and punching power.

@sunsilk - Yeah, Arum can't get over with Pacquiao dumping him and then going to PBC.  ;D. But they have a good history of winnings and making money for Pacquiao.

Yes, those were good days and Arum just can't get over losing Pacquiao on his side. Well, if I'm on his shoes, I'll also feel the same disappointment and would probably create a noise just to win him back and get his attention.

I'm not aware that they have already separated their ways. Good riddance should Manny say.  :P

Not being bias, but I think Pacquiao is one of the strongest boxer I have ever known. Eventhough he gained all the fame he is still humble.

In the ring, his punches are heavy, fast and though he is getting old, he may be quite move as fast as his mid30s, he makes sure that his punches count. I have seen it all in his fights.

Regarding golovkin, i think he is still on his rising journey. His biggest fight in my opinion is with canelo.
Heavy punches and speed are remarkable.

I think pacquiao and golovkin fight will be exciting. Hope Manny can keep up with the speed. I think golovkin has that advantage, when it comes to punches, i will go with pacman.

If this fight will happen for sure I will Bet for Manny pacquiao,though i have doubts since he needs to Adjust to cope with the weight of His opponent yet I admire Manny for a long time and with the determination and the attitude of being a Fighter?yeah will definitely bet for Him.


The man is still in His early 40's so why tell Him to stay Retirement?He is not afraid of losing the belt before finally take the retirement what is important for him is that He shows people that being a division holder is a legacy for every great fighter of the world.

I don't think he can ever get Manny back to work on him, Manny is already one of the top earner boxer in the world and his been in the business for many years and he realized already that he can make more money if he is the one who will promote his own fight.

The Arum (promoter) and Manny (fighter) relation is over, of course, Manny owed Arum a lot as without Arum, Manny wouldn't reach his status now, but that is business it's normal, he can't make Manny to work in his side forever and be his cash cow.

Besides, Manny has a lot of careers already.

He can choose whichever career he wants to focus first. Having a fight, getting into politics, having other businesses, as in anything that he want to make it happen.

Let's get back for all of these speculations and rumors about Golovkin vs. Pacquiao.

Lol, how can you say that you are not bias when you see Pacquiao as one of the strongest boxer?
 ;D

Golovkin is not on his rising journey, he has a lot of wear and tear already and he is almost at the twilight of his career.

Man, I dont know who will have the odd in this fight.
Pacquiao might be in a bit of trouble fighting above 160 pounds. Gaining weight might slow him down consdering the fact that he's been aging as well.
Golovkin has known to have a very destructive punches. If you try to look at his record, he knocked out 35 out of 42 opponents. That's almost 90% k.o percentage.
Sure, this isn't gonna be the case like Margarito's, because they have different fighting style, and obviously Golovkin is a better fighter.

Anyway, this will be a good match. I honestly don't know where to place a bet when this fight will happen.

There's no odds for this fight as it's only an speculation until now, though the camp of Manny showed interest on fighting Golovkin but this fight is not yet confirmed, but in case it's going to be realize, I think Golovkin will be the favorite here.

Whatever happen I am still at the side of people's champ Manny Pacquiao with no hesitation. Despite of how old he is now, his boxing experience is still in there and I think through good training he can still achieve a good body condition. Yes I have heard different good sides of Golovkin when it comes to boxing but I will also not going under estimate Manny.

I saw this old article published in 2015, this seems interesting because Golovkin had already showed his interest before.

Gennady Golovkin Prepared to Fight Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao at 154 (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2402013-gennady-golovkin-prepared-to-fight-floyd-mayweather-or-manny-pacquiao-at-154)
https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/324/128/hi-res-f83fafc7d80782542e4e54431e8c7288_crop_north.jpg?h=533&w=800&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top

What is the real chance that this fight will really happen? I have not read anything yet if Pacquiao agreed to this match or not. Still on the works?

Maybe 50/50 for now.

It was Manny's camp who are calling for this fight, it's still a speculation now since we haven't heard a word from GGG regarding this news.
If we look at the article posted, GGG  in 2015 want to fight with Manny or Mayweather, so I think if both parties will just work hard for this, they can make this fight happen.

you can read this article for your reference.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/11784166/manny-pacquiao-fight-gennady-golovkin/

Yeah, I think this is when Triple G was at his peak and destroying everyone at Middleweight and cleaning up the decision. So there are no more challengers and he is looking for money fights that's why he showed interest to fight either one of best, Floyd or Manny.

But again, the same arguments we have today, Triple G is too big for two, specially Manny Pacquiao. And we eventually saw Floyd and Manny fight that year, making the biggest boxing fights in history in terms of revenue.

Yes it was a history but people will not remember it as a good fight as it was a boring fight IMO.
But this GGG fight against Manny, I believe it's not gonna be boring, one fighter will be hurt badly as both fighters loves to fight toe to toe.

GGG might be big for Manny but I believe Roach knows better than us.

https://www.spin.ph/boxing/roach-hints-of-pacquiao-possibly-facing-big-bad-golovkin-a793-20200606

Obviously Golovkin is going to be the favorite. What do you expect, when a middleweight fighter takes on someone from the lightweight/welterweight division? The latter will have to deal with a huge disadvantage. The only chance of Pacquiao winning the bout, is if his opponent is very incompetent. And unfortunately for him, Golovkin is the best among the middleweight boxers right now.

We never know yet, I respect both fighters, they are both good but we only need to choose one to back between the two.
I don't want to doubt Manny even if he will be fighting a bigger boxer because he has done this before, it's a very important fight for him as he is trying to break his record and making history again, and that could probably dethrone Mayweather from the number 1 list.

Golovkin  is gonna be the favorite but I would be happy with that as taking money with good betting odds would give good return if he wins.
So like most members here voted for him to win, I too hope he will win if this fight's going to happen.

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.

The betting odds are going to be interesting. I still remember what happened during the Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman fight. Thurman started as the overwhelming favorite in betting circles, for reasons that are quite obvious. But then large number of Filipinos (mostly expats) made bets in favor of Pacquiao, forcing the gambling sites to lower the odds for Thurman. I guess the same will happen with this fight, if it ever happens.

I hope it will not be the scenario but I like Manny to win, I just like him to be an underdog in betting odds so if he wins, bettors will win with a better odds.
If Manny will have  2.30 and over, that would be a good extra 30% of winning, and I'm still gonna be confident taking him at that odds.

Regarding who bets on Manny that made him favorite in his previous fight, I think we will never know if it's the Filipino people as there are also whales in sports betting who can move the odds at their favor.

Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.

Many times in Pacquiao's fight that people doubt he can win but he still made it.

His fights against De La Hoya was one of the biggest fight in his career where people doubt him to win, in fact they call this fight as a "David vs Goliath" but with his speed De La Hoya can't even hit him and just gave up before the 12 rounds.

http://www.bankrollsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/boxingx.jpg?x85895

the odds from http://www.bankrollsports.com/blog/oscar-de-la-hoya-vs-manny-pac-man-pacquiao/


If we would see that kind of odds then probably this is going to be good for Pacquiao  backers.

As long there were no confirmations then its hard to presume out that this fight would eventually happen but who knows because this fight would involve big money for sure even on the pandemic situation.PPV sales would be on the top of the roof which would really generate some income..On the thing you had said about the fight then i agree that adding weight would really have corresponding effect on a certain gambler.It will affect speed,footwork etc. but basing on up Manny's experience then i can say that he would able to handle out those effects and theres still lots of time to deal and enhance it.He do have the advantage since Golovkins attack pattern is just a straight up but really having that punching power which is a good target if you are a type of fighter that can throw up
punches in every direction unexpectedly.

I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

I am a long time avid fan of Manny Pacquiao since I'm a kid, but this time if ever pacman and Golovkin will fight each other I think it would be very unpredictable for him. Same with the challenger there's no 100% guarantee that they'll able to beat each other. What I view here with Golovkin's track record, there's a bigger potential that's why pacman shouldn't lose some of his strong defense because this guy would be so aggressive to take his winning knock outs.

We would actually see on who would really have the edge towards the fight.Pacquiao doesnt only have speed but also have that knockout power.

Ive watched GGG vs Canelo fights and i can say that GGG might able to handle out hardshots but lets see on how he would handle out

fast jabs with sufficient power to knock out.

Also the link you have given is not working. http://www.bankrollsports.com/blog/oscar-de-la-hoya-vs-manny-pac-man-pacquiao/

I'm not a fan of Mayweather, but winning against GGG will not put him on the number 1 list, in my opinion. But it is debatable.


Of course, we all love to bet on Manny specially if he is the underdog here, we're going to make a lot of money here. But this is still rumor though, if we see Manny fight this year or next year and saw that he still have have some pop on his punches then maybe, they can go and fight 2022?

On what basis that Golovkin might be the favorite here?


Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.


Clearly yes,He will beat this young Boxer and once again proves the world of His capacity.

@Fredomago - on the basis that Golovkin is the bigger guys, odd makers look at that one factor to say who is the favourite or not. But it is different one the betting public started to place their bet, it could swing to Pacquiao favours. If I'm not mistaken during Pacquiao's last fight, Thurman was the initial favourite based on the odds, however, there there a huge swing on Manny just a couple of days prior to the fight. So it's possible that we will see this as well if ever this fight push through.

GGG is a champion and he is never been knock-out in his fights before and obviously he is the bigger fighter of the two, that alone is a big factor in a fight and before i forgot, he is also younger than Manny.


Popularity does not guarantee you an automatic win in a boxing fight. When Manny defeated those big names in boxing before, he was on his peak. The hands speed, in and out movement, punches from an awkward angle, those attributes where there and now he is 41 and things have changed and we can see that obviously in the Thurman fight.

Exactly. It was very evident during the Thurman fight, that Pacman was exhausted after the fight, unlike when he was at his prime where he doesn't seem become tired and each round his punches and stamina became stronger.
I guess a prime Pacman could put Thurman into sleep when he got knocked down in the first round.
But, everything's changed as he aged. This guy Golovkin is bigger and stronger than Margarito. He could be a very dangerous opponent for Pacquiao.

The tandem of Manny and Freddie is the best coaching type you could ever see in boxing with the help of Freddie roach's strategies, Manny can overcome his opponent no matter who he is as long as they have the same weight. Of course, there are times when somethings wrong they cannot get what they want with the fight but Manny can adjust on the spot to counter his opponent strategy. He is called a living legend for a reason.

Seriously I want manny to stop while he is healthy since he might encounter his last fight with most dangerous injury since first he's old for accepting more bouts but since his body seeking more fights then might best for his couching staff to focus on speed and defense so that he will not get any bad shots that can make him sleep in the canvass just what like marquez did to him on their bout.

Indeed, they are already both legendary in their own respective fields. But I think GGG is now one of the biggest challenge on Pacman's career. I know GGG lost to Canelo once making for some of you underestimating him but guys we should remember that their first fight ended as draw. That's how he close to great Canelo. Well, let's see how Team Pacman make a strategy to beat him especially knwoing the fact that he does not have a glass jaw ;D.

Your devotion to Pacquiao seems to have blinded you. And it seems to me that you have never watched a single fight of Golovkin. If you had done so, then you would have never asked this question. Golovkin is unarguably one of the best boxers of 21st century. The fact that he was robbed of victories against Canelo not once, but twice can't take that away from him.

I would say both the fighters are good. But Golovkin is in another weight class and that gives him the advantage.

I agree. I know Pacquiao is a great boxer and even if there are so many people who support Pacquiao, we can't remove the fact that he is aging. It means that his movement was not the same as before. Aside from his age, as you have said, Golovkin is in another weight class, it will surely be hard for Pacquiao.

Yeah, I couldn't agree to you more, man. And much has been said by @bisdak40.

We can't rely on possibilities alone, as mentioned he's not getting any younger, his speed isn't as close to what it was before, his body couldn't grasp heavy punches even though he has trained it to a new level. Beside he doesn't need money nor popularity anymore as he already made it for himself. From what is obvious, that must be followed else he'll suffer from unexpected consequences.

Very well said, at least someone here talking and making sense. All I see and read here are those die hard fans of Manny Pacquaio. Nothing against you, but you have to think logically. Manny is no longer his prime, but you guys think that he can win against a bigger guy in Golovkin, LMAO, typical of Pactards (sorry, I never invented that term). You are all blind to see that Golovkin is an elite fighter and should be still 0 in the loss column.

Some prominent and boxing experts are advising Pacquiao to not to push with the fight or if they are going to push it should be in a catchweight
not on a weight where Golovkin and his punch will have an impact, but Pacquiao is gunning for his 9 division title so we cannot blame him he wants to be immortalized as the only fighter that ever did it.

Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.


The man is near retirement so if this is a desperate move then better his camp will think twice.

While you raise some good points the difference now is the age of both fighters, Pacquiao and Mayweather talked a lot about the fight and it took very long to make it a reality because they were younger, but GGG is 38 years old and Pacquiao is 41 years old they have no time to waste if they really want to make this fight a reality, personally I would like to watch this fight since despite their age both fighters still have some gas left and I would like to see how they match against each other.

Good point, it's better to wait for the official announcement about this fight. But it's really hard to stop thinking about the possibilities of this fight and as you can see, people can't wait to see what will happen.

Well, it is true, their gap in age is really huge and this might be his biggest obstacle on this fight. Team Pacquiao should think very carefully regarding this fight.

When it comes to age of both fighters then we cant really deny that theyre getting old but still capable on doing heavy blows and still have that speed.

They wont reach out this peak spot if they havent proved everything. Age is just a number but sooner or later these great fighters would retire.

For now, theres still business need to be done before considering such step.I have doubts that one of them will retire after this fight.  ;D

yeah, lets talk when they sealed the deal here. seems that it is still far from happening. no confirmation from both sides yet. so all the talks here will be useless if this will not push thru...

Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

https://sports.inquirer.net/files/2019/07/AP19202187329846.jpg
Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum (https://sports.inquirer.net/396322/golovkin-fight-very-dangerous-for-pacquiao-says-arum)

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao


People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. ;D

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.

I don't think he was really concern about Manny, otherwise he might just personally talk with Manny and give personal advise.

Making a statement that will just circulate online is not good, not for Manny as lot of people still trust him especially when he beat a younger and undefeated fighter, but for Arum's reputation. But then, we never know what's in his mind as he is a master of this kind of game, he has been in boxing for Manny years promoting fights, so it's really hard to read the businessman's mind, let's just hope it's nothing personal, but just a business as the reason behind that statement.

(a) and (b) to me,

(a) Bob Arum can't get over the fact that Manny didn't sign under him and in a twist of faith, went to his bitter competitor, Al Haymon. And I don't see that Arum is concern about Manny's health, this is business, no attachment whatsoever.

There are a lot of boxers who works for him and bring a lot of money, but we didn't even heard about their relationships when that boxer retire.

(b) Of course, he is butt-hurt, specially when he see Manny on his winning tracks again. Perhaps he is imagining the money he should have gain is he still under him. And his latest cash cow (Crawford) generate money but it's not even close when Pacquaio was at his prime.

The news are basically broadcasted in our local television especially if Manny Pacquiao will going to have a new fight, but for this one, I don't think I've watched or heard of a new fight coming soon with Manny Pacquiao and Golovkin. Pacquiao is also a senator of the country and I see he's prioritizing the country first before planning to have a new fight especially now that we are in a crisis.

But if this might be true, The roads and streets are clearer than Enhance Community Quarantine. That's how eager the Filipinos watch every Pacquiao's fight.

Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.

Even better.
It'll increase the odds for Manny Pacquiao.
Guarantee, win with great odds when this match happen. :)

Coach Freddie Roach was the one that wants to make this match up to happen, and I think that says it all. :D

Yeah i understand about what will happens next but the thing is this has not even closed so why need to have argumentation,but its ok we are a free person to say what we wanted to.

Well Arum still the match maker so Pacquaio cannot prevent Him from intervening .

Roach knows Manny that's why he is still working with Manny's camp until now, and when they pick an opponent, they are usually confident that Manny can win. I understand why people are so concern with Manny going up with weight because GGG is a warrior, but if a Warrior is slow, it can't hit Manny and Manny will win. my 2 cents.

What do you mean Arum is still the match maker? Manny is no longer under him.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/report-manny-pacquiao-signs-with-longtime-floyd-mayweather-adviser-al-haymon/

So how can Bob Arum intervene here, and that is the point of the discussion. Boxing fans are wondering why he is giving negative statement against Manny. I think you need to back read.

Yeah...
I remembered, Roach had said to Manny vs Keith fight that the filipino boxing legend is affecting by the ageing and can't let the fact the Manny speed slow down against Keith Thurman.

On the other hand, a month old article.
Boxing: Manny Pacquiao has been on Terence Crawford’s radar since 2015 (https://sports.abs-cbn.com/boxing/news/2020/05/11/manny-pacquiao-crawforda-s-radar-since-2015-68110)
Still M. Pacquiao is a dream fight for other professional boxer.

I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  :).

I believe that Manny is greater than Golovkin he has head movement, foot work, fighting style and determination to  fight. Though he is already 41yrs. Old but he had gots to fight he can still win against Golovkin.

Great point. Now that I think there is huge possibility that this would be the last fight of Manny. I'll go with Freddie Roach with he's crazy thought like this one below.

Maybe, I also thought of that, that's why he is against Manny right now.
This old article again proved that Arum was again wrong.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Bob Arum Says Pac-Man Won't Fight Floyd Mayweather
 (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1030182-manny-pacquiao-bob-arum-says-pac-man-wont-fight-floyd-mayweather)
and then 3 years after.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Results: Money Defeats Pac-Man Via Unanimous Decision (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2440484-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-results-money-defeats-pac-man-via-unanimous-decision)

Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.


Correct, that is why I don't like to compare Margarito and GGG, both different. The only way that Team Pacquaio can get over this is adding a rehydration clause in the contract. Manny is typical of an Asian guy and it will be very difficult for him to go reach 155-160 without eating huge amount of food. His best fighting weight is really 147 lbs, above that, he looks bloated to me.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. ::)

For the record bro, Manny is not calling on GGG to fight him instead it is Roach who floated the idea of a Manny vs GGG fight while it is Arum who wants Crawford to fight Manny but i won't be surprised if at the end of the day, Manny would choose to fight one of the Garcia's.

It does not come from Manny directly but I think that Roach would not say that if Manny would not approve of that fight.
Of course, Arum here had some personal business too as he wants his boxer to fight Manny so he can make some good money from the fight.

Here's arum said about the Golovkin vs Pacquiao fight,

 "It’s a stupid fight. I know Golovkin appears to be over the hill, but it’s a fight that could be very dangerous for Pacquiao." - Bob Arum (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)
 (https://sports.abs-cbn.com/boxing/news/2020/06/15/bob-arum-says-ggg-fight-dangerous-pacquiao-68806)

https://asset-sports.abs-cbn.com/web/dev/articles/1592205045_1484116181-1467278895-pacquiao-mayweather-fightjpg-943654c3b9807d58-large.jpg

This one (https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/263345-vs-golovkin-workable-at-catchweight) always says, it's workable at catchweight

As already posted by some of the users, the idea was not Manny's. However, Manny maybe interested in the fight against GGG, because it is going to break all the revenue and viewership records from his previous fights. It may become his biggest fight till date, even surpassing the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao of 2015. Any potential fight against Crawford or Spence may not come within miles of this one.

Who wouldnt be interested if you do know that this fight would give out that 9th division belt? This one would be a good fight and we have seen different insights comparing between boxers.
When it comes to ppv sales then theres no doubt that this will sell out pretty well cant be sure if it would surpass Pacquiao-Mayweather though but this one would be big.

Boxing is business and of course those old man would surely be piling up or arrange fights on where they can milk out the most.

Its still money that counts. A boxer will go all the troubles and will be pound over and over by a fist that can strike heavier than a jackhammer has to think of money and then the production who will also take a cut. Times of recession, both Pacquaio and GG probably would want big shares and the production can't guarantee if PPV can generate that much because people don't have jobs.

Well, Crawford always want to fight Manny anytime and that's the best second option they have if GGG wouldn't love to take this fight.

I don't think GGG would say no to Manny, but they are in different weight now, so they have to agree on what weight they will fight, it's gonna be at catchweight at best. Crawford is a good fighter always, he is undefeated and he could give a good fight to Manny.

Any of these boxers would fight, it would be a showdown.

Manny Pacquiao - WBA Super World Welter Title
Errol Spence Jr - WBC World Welter Title
Terence Crawford- WBO World Welter Title

In Crawford's 36 record match, he hasn't involved yet on the big fights with big names which makes him disappointed.

Pacquaio's last fight should be on the boxer that already established a good track record on their history. GGG is the best choice.

Honestly, I would like to see this Pacquiao vs GGG compare to Pacquaio vs Crawford. I mean, GGG is no doubt a big name on his division. That will be another great fight for Pacquiao instead of facing those youngsters on their prime even those are champions (if it's about Pacquiao's supposed last fight).

I have a feeling that GGG as well might be possible to have his last fight anytime soon and announce he's retirement. If that's the case and Manny as well is in the verge of supposed last fight--I think this fight me be happen anytime soon they talked about. Pacquiao and Coach Roach are great tandem and coach knows the best for his boxer.

As I've said, it is the best second option Manny got if he wants to give this young hungry fighter an opportunity to have big fights.

GGG is a great fighter but Manny is a legend, so this fight could be a great fight as it's not a one sided fight only.
Both fighters are well respected and there are the opinion of people are divided on who will win between the two fighters, and that would make this fight very interesting, of course, there will be a possible equal flow of money from bets, so it's not hard to get a good odds whichever fighter we will bet  on.

Lastly, GGG and Manny are soon going to retire, a good paycheck in their last few fights would be a good bonus.



I think I would agree with @harizen in his post above, GGG is better, then maybe my next option would be Errol Spence Jr.

But the thing is, Freddie Roach is not part of Team Pacquaio anymore. He is only there when there is a fight as a consultant (given to him by Manny for some sort of gratitude for all he have done to Manny) on a per fight basis. All the words that came from his mouth is a pure opinion and the two of them does not engage in a conversation at all.

This fantasy fight would only occur at 147lbs which i don't think GGG is willing to take besides what would he get if he fought Manny this time, money? GGG would be better be pursuing that trilogy with Canelo for more money and he is not going out of his comfort zone.

For Manny, even if he beat GGG at 147lbs, that would not count as a fight for the Middleweight, so the purpose of fighting for that 9th division title is defeated and it will leave a bad taste in the mouth to some boxing fans.

Agree. No excuses that the other one is on prime while the other one is retiring.

Other people look GGG as dangerous but no way his name will be popped out if Pacquaio thinks he can't handle it. Roach is afraid for Pacquaio for taking up a higher weight class but it's not that Pacquaio will leap into over +10 weight limit. Definitely, Pacquaio can handle it.

If Pacquaio lost, then fine. At least he tried it even it's not necessary to do. Post-prime, already achieved a successful boxing career, almost on the retirement period but still open for taking new challenges is not usual to any boxer. Pacquaio is truly great.

No way Roach would make such statement if he is not confident that Manny can beat Pacman, he is the trainor and he knows what Manny can do in the right. The style of Manny is very unpredictable, he has a blinding speed and even if we say that triple G is huge, I don't  think it's a big factor against the GOAT Manny.

I like to see this fight happen, let's keep hyping it up so it'll be realize.  ;D

I get your point, roach is one of the trusted man of Pacquiao and their relationship is very effective so I doubt Roach would make that statement which Pacquiao disagrees or no idea about it, calling GGG is not a joke, this is a big and a heavy guy, very good in his division so I guess they have seen some advantage on how to beat GGG.

look at these two.

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I agree that Spence and Crawford is the best choice for Manny since obviously they campaign in the same division and they are the current and defending champion. Why they wanted GGG? more money I guess and probably they have a better chance of defeating him his he is slowing down already, but still dangerous.

Both Spence and Crawford are now at their prime and if Manny could beat both of them, similar to what he did against a young Keith Thurman, then Manny's stock will elevate higher and then probably chase Golovkin for his last fight and win. That will be the perfect ending for Manny Pacquiao's career.

This must be a Great fight if happens,and i think it will be since there are too many opinion regarding the Golovkin vs. Pacquiao fight.

Crawford has been longing to have a ring with the 8 division champ so why not let it happen second to this Fight if not succeed.


Well we know Manny regarding money deal,he is not like mayweather so the chance of money fight is not if Pacquiao is the fighter.

Yeah, I agree.

1. Pacquiao vs Spence
2. Pacquaio vs Crawford

Manny is not calling GGG as far as I know, and the only boxer that I recall Manny calling is Floyd. And it's the other way around, boxers are calling Manny because of the sweepstakes, just like what Thurman got, biggest payday of his career.

And calling GGG is the brainchild of Roach, similar to when they call Oscar back then. Manny just say yes as a boxer.

The chance of fighting Manny is a good stepping stone to every boxers who still seeking for more stardom, Manny's charmed from this
boxing world already established whoever he fight it will bring good reflection to the fighter.
Win or lose the fighter will have a good share both money and fame.

Manny will fight as he's still active and he wanted to continue his legacy,.

That's the thing we have to wait and see, if this fight happen, it should be the best fight of Manny after the Manny vs Mayweather fight, probably the biggest fight of GGG too, that would give him a good payday, the hype is rising, so people really wanting this to realize too.

Fans never expect this fight, if without Roach weird imagination, this talk would not be possible, but of course as a fan of Manny I like to see him fight a good boxer and this time it's bigger than him, it reminds me of his past where he fought big guys, so if this is gonna happen, we can see if at his age, he still have that strength to beat bigger boxer. TBH, I see this as a dangerous fight of Manny too, he is fighting a beast here, but my man loves this kind of challenge so I'll bet on him if indeed it's gonna be realize.

I think we are overrating this possible fight.

Manny has a lot of best fights and I don't think Manny vs. Mayweather is the top of it. I think if we will be talking about the most earned fight of his, I guess I will be taking it. There is a lot of fights that we can tell that can be the best, and in my opinion, I would go with Manny's fight and Miguels Cotto. There are articles that say that Dela Hoya Vs. Pacquiao is great but I think his fight with Cotto is also amazing.

They are talking about the revenues generated and Manny vs Mayweather sets the record and its going to be very difficult to break, PPV and live gate buys. But in terms of Manny's performance, I would say that vs Cotto is one of his best, specially the first 3 rounds and it is comparable to the great fight of Hagler vs Hearns.

I'm sure that is not the best fight of Manny because he lose in that fight and he made an excuse saying he got an injury during the training.
It was called as the fight of the century but definitely that is not the best fight of Manny.

Best fights of Manny per my own opinion.

Manny vs Diaz
Manny vs Cotto
Manny vs De lahoya
Manny vs Hatton

Manny vs Morales (all fights)
Manny vs Marquez (all fights)

These fight where he got the most of  his high caliber highlights so I will agree with you that the bout between mayweather is not the best one for him since I don't know if I'm impressed  for seeing that match although the fight their fight is quite interesting still it doesn't give any convincing angle that that fight is the best, mayweather is just running around the canvass and I'm not enjoying seeing that one.

Maybe we can say that they did really well in marketing the fight, it was so hype so it attract a lot of viewers both in PVV and those who went into the arena. It's the biggest fight of Manny as he made over $100 million in that fight, it was boring, yes I agree with that as Manny can't hit Mayweather with a clean shot but if Manny were able to knock out Mayweather them probably we can call this the best and the biggest fight of Manny, well deserved to be a sold out fight.

Above were good fights of Manny Pacquaio but for me "Pacquaio vs Barrera 1" is the best. He showed no respect and no mercy to the great Barrera then. I'm awed with the punch combination he threw on that fight 1-2-3-4-5-6 lol.

If that Manny who fought Barrera in the Alamo Dome, then there's a chance he might win against GGG but of course in a catch weight.

Barrera was a smart boxer but Pacquiao was just too strong for him and beat him in 11 rounds by stoppage from Barrera's corner.
I wished I have bet on Pacquiao that time, he was an underdog in the fight with 1-4 chance and that would be a sweet win if converted into betting odds.

I also saw that it was a less matured Pacquiao, he was heavily relying on his power but as he aged he was more matured and we might not see some good knockout wins from Manny but he is still the most entertaining boxer for me.

well, even at the current status of Pacquiao, I think he can give a good fight on GGG at a catch weight and I believe he will win.

Both of them is high caliber boxer, but I don't think that Manny will be able to fight this year or next year or even for the next 3 years, since he is in the government now, I think he will focus on this pandemic, and will not go into training not until PH will be good again.

As of this moment, Pacman is still the leading on this poll.

GGV   - 12 (24%)
Pacman   - 38 (76%)
Total Voters: 50

This fight is very interesting.

Agree, our government here right now is not in stable right now, there are many problems happening and they can't even address it with good actions. So I hope that before fighting Golvkin, Pacman focuses first on the government, and besides our fellow citizens will hate him for prioritizing the fight than the health crisis. We, the Philippines, are still watching his war, but I think few will only help him if he succeeds this year.

If he will fight GGG for the Philippines, like, the winnings will be donated for the funds on the health crisis, it'll be a good idea but for personal that can be used for his political desires this upcoming 2022? oh c'mon.  ::)

According to this article, it looks like Roach's statement was taken out of the context and this fight will never happen.

Interesting read here; All Talk Of A Pacquiao-GGG Fight Snuffed Out Not In This Lifetime (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/all-talk-of-a-pacquiao-ggg-fight-snuffed-out-not-in-this-lifetime/150672)

Top Rank CEO Bob Arum also said that Crawford is aggressively eyeing for Pacquaio as his next opponent and reading between the lines, looks like they are now working on it. Keith Thurman is also calling for a rematch and hoping he will be included on Pacquiao's list before the legend retires.

But for me, it's not about the "next" fight but "last" fight. I still want to see that Pacquaio's last match on his career will be against the monster GGG. There are probably 2-3 more fights before Pacquaio will hang his gloves. If the usual timeline will be followed, it will around 4Q2021 - 2Q2022. 42-43 years old, might too old for a 160 lbs weight caught. Each result on Pacquiao's next opponent also plays a big role if he will continue to fight.

So maybe OP can lock this thread as it seems this match is not feasible for the next coming months. Maybe open this thread again if we will see the light that there is possibility of this match. Obviously, people's choice here is still Pac. But if there will be no match, then, it is useless to talk about them.

Yeah, thanks for that link, perhaps they just spin around what Freddie Roach said because it doesn't really makes sense for him to eye a shutdown against a bigger and dangerous GGG. And I remember him saying that Manny can't make 155 lbs. Anyhow, a fight with Crawford for Manny will be great, both are champions and Manny is the ticket for them to go to the next level of boxing, that is if they beat the great and legendary Manny Pacquiao.

Thanks for sharing the article. @btc_angela
I hope you guys can read it because an hour ago there is a user who made a well thought-out comment that convinced me that because the Pacquio vs Golovkin fight should happen.

This is an excerpt from the comment.

Quote:
Crawford gets $ 250,000, the fight is held in the Philippines, 8 ounce Reyes gloves are to be used and the ring is 14x14 or 16x16. Manny receives between 25 to 30 million plus 40-50 of the PPV and live gate. That is Manny's worth and that is Crawford's worth. If these can't be met, sorry, Manny can move on to Spence, GGG or Canelo The Convicted Cheater as long as Canelo is tested daily and monitored 24/7. The fight I am calling for is GGG vs Manny Pacquiao. That's the fight the world would love to see. Gibbons, Freddie, Arum and Fortune need not be afraid because they don't gte in that ring. Manny wants GGG, and he needs to get him so he can earn his 1st division championship. Remember, Manny skipped over 2 divisions due to weak competition, and went on to win 8 division championships, so be default, Manny receives the two divisions he bypassed, which makes him a 10 division champion. A win over GGG makes him an 11 division champion, WOW! WOW! WOW! Ricky Hatton might be singing, "There's Only One Manny Pacquiao".

Okay, Thanks for your suggestion, locking this thread now and will unlock it once we have some good development of this fight.

Thank you all for your comments, hopefully this will be realized soon. ;D