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June 15, 2020, 09:49:50 PM
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must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.
Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.
While you raise some good points the difference now is the age of both fighters, Pacquiao and Mayweather talked a lot about the fight and it took very long to make it a reality because they were younger, but GGG is 38 years old and Pacquiao is 41 years old they have no time to waste if they really want to make this fight a reality, personally I would like to watch this fight since despite their age both fighters still have some gas left and I would like to see how they match against each other.

When it comes to age of both fighters then we cant really deny that theyre getting old but still capable on doing heavy blows and still have that speed.

They wont reach out this peak spot if they havent proved everything. Age is just a number but sooner or later these great fighters would retire.

For now, theres still business need to be done before considering such step.I have doubts that one of them will retire after this fight.  Grin

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June 15, 2020, 10:40:22 PM
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Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.
Good point, it's better to wait for the official announcement about this fight. But it's really hard to stop thinking about the possibilities of this fight and as you can see, people can't wait to see what will happen.


yeah, lets talk when they sealed the deal here. seems that it is still far from happening. no confirmation from both sides yet. so all the talks here will be useless if this will not push thru...

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June 15, 2020, 10:50:50 PM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.


Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

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June 15, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.

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June 15, 2020, 11:19:56 PM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.

I don't think he was really concern about Manny, otherwise he might just personally talk with Manny and give personal advise.

Making a statement that will just circulate online is not good, not for Manny as lot of people still trust him especially when he beat a younger and undefeated fighter, but for Arum's reputation. But then, we never know what's in his mind as he is a master of this kind of game, he has been in boxing for Manny years promoting fights, so it's really hard to read the businessman's mind, let's just hope it's nothing personal, but just a business as the reason behind that statement.

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June 16, 2020, 01:37:35 AM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.

(a) and (b) to me,

(a) Bob Arum can't get over the fact that Manny didn't sign under him and in a twist of faith, went to his bitter competitor, Al Haymon. And I don't see that Arum is concern about Manny's health, this is business, no attachment whatsoever.

There are a lot of boxers who works for him and bring a lot of money, but we didn't even heard about their relationships when that boxer retire.

(b) Of course, he is butt-hurt, specially when he see Manny on his winning tracks again. Perhaps he is imagining the money he should have gain is he still under him. And his latest cash cow (Crawford) generate money but it's not even close when Pacquaio was at his prime.

 
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June 16, 2020, 03:41:43 AM
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yeah, lets talk when they sealed the deal here. seems that it is still far from happening. no confirmation from both sides yet. so all the talks here will be useless if this will not push thru...

The news are basically broadcasted in our local television especially if Manny Pacquiao will going to have a new fight, but for this one, I don't think I've watched or heard of a new fight coming soon with Manny Pacquiao and Golovkin. Pacquiao is also a senator of the country and I see he's prioritizing the country first before planning to have a new fight especially now that we are in a crisis.

But if this might be true, The roads and streets are clearer than Enhance Community Quarantine. That's how eager the Filipinos watch every Pacquiao's fight.
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June 16, 2020, 03:59:04 AM
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Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.

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June 16, 2020, 07:51:09 AM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.


Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Even better.
It'll increase the odds for Manny Pacquiao.
Guarantee, win with great odds when this match happen. Smiley

Coach Freddie Roach was the one that wants to make this match up to happen, and I think that says it all. Cheesy

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June 16, 2020, 08:07:10 AM
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Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.
Good point, it's better to wait for the official announcement about this fight. But it's really hard to stop thinking about the possibilities of this fight and as you can see, people can't wait to see what will happen.

Some prominent and boxing experts are advising Pacquiao to not to push with the fight or if they are going to push it should be in a catchweight
not on a weight where Golovkin and his punch will have an impact, but Pacquiao is gunning for his 9 division title so we cannot blame him he wants to be immortalized as the only fighter that ever did it.

The man is near retirement so if this is a desperate move then better his camp will think twice.
Well, it is true, their gap in age is really huge and this might be his biggest obstacle on this fight. Team Pacquiao should think very carefully regarding this fight.
Yeah i understand about what will happens next but the thing is this has not even closed so why need to have argumentation,but its ok we are a free person to say what we wanted to.

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Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.
Well Arum still the match maker so Pacquaio cannot prevent Him from intervening .

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June 16, 2020, 09:20:34 AM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.


Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Even better.
It'll increase the odds for Manny Pacquiao.
Guarantee, win with great odds when this match happen. Smiley

Coach Freddie Roach was the one that wants to make this match up to happen, and I think that says it all. Cheesy

Roach knows Manny that's why he is still working with Manny's camp until now, and when they pick an opponent, they are usually confident that Manny can win. I understand why people are so concern with Manny going up with weight because GGG is a warrior, but if a Warrior is slow, it can't hit Manny and Manny will win. my 2 cents.
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June 16, 2020, 09:46:02 AM
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Well Arum still the match maker so Pacquaio cannot prevent Him from intervening .
What do you mean Arum is still the match maker? Manny is no longer under him.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/report-manny-pacquiao-signs-with-longtime-floyd-mayweather-adviser-al-haymon/

So how can Bob Arum intervene here, and that is the point of the discussion. Boxing fans are wondering why he is giving negative statement against Manny. I think you need to back read.

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June 16, 2020, 10:29:28 AM
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Roach knows Manny that's why he is still working with Manny's camp until now, and when they pick an opponent, they are usually confident that Manny can win. I understand why people are so concern with Manny going up with weight because GGG is a warrior, but if a Warrior is slow, it can't hit Manny and Manny will win. my 2 cents.

Yeah...
I remembered, Roach had said to Manny vs Keith fight that the filipino boxing legend is affecting by the ageing and can't let the fact the Manny speed slow down against Keith Thurman.

On the other hand, a month old article.
Boxing: Manny Pacquiao has been on Terence Crawford’s radar since 2015
Still M. Pacquiao is a dream fight for other professional boxer.

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June 16, 2020, 10:38:19 AM
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Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.
~snip~
Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  Smiley.

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June 16, 2020, 11:27:56 AM
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I read this news today.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-fight-golovkin-freddie-roach-says--149298

What do you think about this fight, Manny seems like to break his current record to be the ninth division champion.

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At the age of 41, Roach said Pacquiao could be eyeing a title in a record ninth division against one of boxing’s all-time great middleweights.

If this fight happen, who is your bet?

I believe that Manny is greater than Golovkin he has head movement, foot work, fighting style and determination to  fight. Though he is already 41yrs. Old but he had gots to fight he can still win against Golovkin.
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June 16, 2020, 11:29:16 AM
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I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  Smiley.

Great point. Now that I think there is huge possibility that this would be the last fight of Manny. I'll go with Freddie Roach with he's crazy thought like this one below.

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At 5-foot-10 1/2, GGG is half an inch shorter than Margarito, but broader, heavier, and presumably stronger.

Against Pacquiao, Margarito entered the ring at 165 lbs, gaining 15 lbs overnight.

Similarly, GGG could rehydrate to as high as 175, a light heavyweight, in a middleweight bout.

Pacquiao, who was 148 when he tangled with Margarito, has never reached 155 on fight night so a weight discrepancy of 20 lbs is likely against Golovkin.

Roach knows this so he ruled out Pacquiao colliding with GGG at 160 lbs.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/263345-vs-golovkin-workable-at-catchweight

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June 16, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
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Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.

Maybe, I also thought of that, that's why he is against Manny right now.
This old article again proved that Arum was again wrong.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Bob Arum Says Pac-Man Won't Fight Floyd Mayweather

and then 3 years after.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Results: Money Defeats Pac-Man Via Unanimous Decision

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June 16, 2020, 11:48:55 AM
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I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  Smiley.

Great point. Now that I think there is huge possibility that this would be the last fight of Manny. I'll go with Freddie Roach with he's crazy thought like this one below.

Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

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At 5-foot-10 1/2, GGG is half an inch shorter than Margarito, but broader, heavier, and presumably stronger.

Against Pacquiao, Margarito entered the ring at 165 lbs, gaining 15 lbs overnight.

Similarly, GGG could rehydrate to as high as 175, a light heavyweight, in a middleweight bout.

Pacquiao, who was 148 when he tangled with Margarito, has never reached 155 on fight night so a weight discrepancy of 20 lbs is likely against Golovkin.

Roach knows this so he ruled out Pacquiao colliding with GGG at 160 lbs.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/263345-vs-golovkin-workable-at-catchweight

Correct, that is why I don't like to compare Margarito and GGG, both different. The only way that Team Pacquaio can get over this is adding a rehydration clause in the contract. Manny is typical of an Asian guy and it will be very difficult for him to go reach 155-160 without eating huge amount of food. His best fighting weight is really 147 lbs, above that, he looks bloated to me.

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June 16, 2020, 12:16:34 PM
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Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes

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June 16, 2020, 12:29:49 PM
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Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes

For the record bro, Manny is not calling on GGG to fight him instead it is Roach who floated the idea of a Manny vs GGG fight while it is Arum who wants Crawford to fight Manny but i won't be surprised if at the end of the day, Manny would choose to fight one of the Garcia's.

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