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Title: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on April 27, 2021, 12:12:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3bHrH6F.jpg
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Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/vegafria-says-pacquiao-mikey-garcia-fight-dubai


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: goinmerry on April 27, 2021, 01:06:45 PM
Just yesterday, I shared a tweet here:

Mike Coppinger reports that “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through,” and the fight “appears all but dead.” (https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1385750689687605249)

It's about the supposed June 5 fight in Abu Dhabi between welterweight champ Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao. It says “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through" so the fight might not happen.

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: arwin100 on April 27, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
Just yesterday, I shared a tweet here:

Mike Coppinger reports that “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through,” and the fight “appears all but dead.” (https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1385750689687605249)

It's about the supposed June 5 fight in Abu Dhabi between welterweight champ Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao. It says “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through" so the fight might not happen.

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.

Health protocol is the major reasons why sporting events will be suspended at these moment since for sure the dubai authority will be more careful especially the cases in india is so alarming and for sure they will do more extra precaution especially to the foreign entrants to their country. If they can make this happen well this is a big fight to watch, for sure many people want Many to step into the hard canvass now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: goinmerry on April 27, 2021, 01:47:31 PM
Health protocol is the major reasons why sporting events will be suspended at these moment since for sure the dubai authority will be more careful especially the cases in india is so alarming and for sure they will do more extra precaution especially to the foreign entrants to their country.

Let's put that India case differently here. The Pacquaio/Crawford wasn't suspended as in the first place there's no agreement made. Covid is also not the reason why the fight might not happen.

It's not about the Covid. That's even the reason why it was Abu Dhabi or Dubai was chosen as the preferred location because of how they handle the pandemic there and UAE is one of the best countries that can generate good revenue outside the USA.

The reason for this failed agreement is Abu Dhabi investors. They play a big role in that fight to happen. If no funding were made, then the match isn't possible to proceed.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: btc_angela on April 27, 2021, 01:48:58 PM
So no Pacquaio vs Crawford, perhaps there was no really big funds for this fight because of the pandemic. In any case, vs Garcia, it will still be a good fight though. Lucky Mikey, he is the one who won the Manny sweepstakes.

But I don't think he has the tools to beat Manny even at his age. His punch at 147 lbs doesn't have a sting because we all know that he is just a ballooned welterweight. I'm seeing Manny knocking out Garcia with brutal left.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: dothebeats on April 27, 2021, 01:52:12 PM
It'll be hard for any fight to be locked for Pacquiao during these times, not unless the opponent would be Mayweather (which we know will never happen), then the money will talk for itself and Dubai would surely agree.

The fight against Mikey Garcia is not really something that's gonna get a lot of views even though Pacquiao is in the ring. It's just like a filler arc in a movie/tv series that happens but isn't really significant at all. No disrespect to Mikey Garcia but he just doesn't have the appeal to be matched against Pacquiao and generate those PPV sales.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: acroman08 on April 27, 2021, 02:01:10 PM
not as excited as I am on Crawford and Pacquiao fight but Mikey Garcia still has an impressive record of 41 fights, 40 wins, 30 KOs's, and 1 loss. if this fight came through wonder how Mikey Garcia(don't really know his fighting style) will fair during the fight against manny and what the odds on the sports betting platforms will be between these two.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Dave1 on April 27, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
not as excited as I am on Crawford and Pacquiao fight but Mikey Garcia still has an impressive record of 41 fights, 40 wins, 30 KOs's, and 1 loss. if this fight came through wonder how Mikey Garcia(don't really know his fighting style) will fair during the fight against manny and what the odds on the sports betting platforms will be between these two.

Manny will still be the favorite here, I reckon.

Yes, his record is impressive, but I would say that he is not a true welterweight, he fought Spence Jr and lost and then go for a B level fighter in Jessie Vargas and won at 147 lbs. So I don't know how can he upset Manny, I guess the Garcia's has a knack on Manny as they have wanted to really beat him. His brother and trainer Robert, has fighters who lost to Manny, Rios and Margarito. And now he want's his brother now to take the cape and go for a third time to beat Pacquiao. And I think they will fail again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: sunsilk on April 27, 2021, 03:19:42 PM
IIRC, this was the guy who really want to challenge Manny Pacquiao. Well, if this is going to be given by the said date, Manny can't find any other challenger and we've thought that it's going to be Crawford.

But if that's no longer able to be pushed then Manny has no choice but to agree and fight this guy. But honestly, I'd like to watch Crawford fight him than this guy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: pinggoki on April 27, 2021, 03:35:31 PM
If the situation between both countries become good especially when it comes to the health situation then probably it will happen the fight between these 2 fighters/boxers especially Manny Pacquiao one of the legendary fighter of all time. If this will eventually happen next year then we must watch it as it may brings us more entertainment and I guess this 2 fighters are eager to win as they doesn't have any fight for a long time due to the pandemic brought us by Covid 19.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fortify on April 27, 2021, 04:19:03 PM
Just yesterday, I shared a tweet here:

Mike Coppinger reports that “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through,” and the fight “appears all but dead.” (https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1385750689687605249)

It's about the supposed June 5 fight in Abu Dhabi between welterweight champ Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao. It says “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through" so the fight might not happen.

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.

The UAE compromises a few different states, like you have the four nations of the UK. Each emirate within the UAE are effectively competing with the others, so it investors from Abu Dhabi are unlikely to be funding a fight in Dubai. That being said, Dubai Sheikhs have a lot of money too and love to throw it at tourism boosting entertainment like boxing matches/music events/expos. They have suffered greatly during the pandemic with few visitors, but I believe that the UAE is leading the world in high vaccination rates and would love to get that tourist money flowing again. They definitely have the infrastructure to support it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: YOSHIE on April 27, 2021, 05:21:13 PM
The Pacquiao vs Mikey fight was planned a year ago, now Pacquiao has a good opponent for this year 2021, they've put all this together, in the hope that all will get good results.

Although the date and location have not been fixed, hopes that in the near future the match schedule has been announced in the public, the battle between Pacquiao vs Mikey has strong support from various parties.

OP, you may be able to update all of their schedules and match locations when everything is done, we can monitor the progress in this thread, This is a passionate match moment for this year, hope this will not change the cancellation.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: rhomelmabini on April 27, 2021, 05:31:11 PM
That's an anticipated match as always and hope they finally seal the deal with both camp.

If the situation between both countries become good especially when it comes to the health situation then probably it will happen the fight between these 2 fighters/boxers especially Manny Pacquiao one of the legendary fighter of all time. If this will eventually happen next year then we must watch it as it may brings us more entertainment and I guess this 2 fighters are eager to win as they doesn't have any fight for a long time due to the pandemic brought us by Covid 19.
Fingers crossed 🤞 I am hoping that both country of origin is doing just fine and I mean it. I don't think they'll make it to next year, it will be the closest time possible afaik.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on April 27, 2021, 09:30:18 PM
What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.

The difference here i think is the amount of funds involve. The proposed Manny vs Crawford fight seems to warrant a huge amount, imagined allotting $50 million of guaranteed purse alone for both boxers and we all know that Bob Arum will also grab his share of the pie.

I've read some articles from Filipino boxing analyst, as long as possible Manny don't want Bob Arum to be involve in his fight anymore so that may be the reason why he is taunting Bob by asking $40 million to fight Terrence but their original plan since the beginning was to fight Mikey Garcia.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Darker45 on April 28, 2021, 03:31:44 AM
This is apparently the safer option for the Pacquiao camp if the anticipated Crawford-Pacquiao match is already considered dead. The latter is definitely a more exciting match, of course, and more profitable as well, I'd say. Pacquiao-Garcia is definitely not as interesting as the cancelled Crawford-Pacquiao.

If this pushes through, Pacquiao is not facing a risky opponent as Crawford. Garcia's KO record is an old one. Pacquiao could easily outbox him and win the fight by UD.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 28, 2021, 03:55:58 AM
I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 28, 2021, 04:44:08 AM
I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made. Errol Spence could also be an option but I think Pacquiao would want a similar purse to what he was asking against Crawford so you would run into the same problem of finding investors willing to fund it. Pacquiao will not make as much money against Garcia but it is a much easier fight for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Wexnident on April 28, 2021, 04:54:08 AM
I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.
I guess it's because that fight was worth more, compared to this one in their eyes? Hence why Manny agreed, since his price is definitely lower compared to the one with Crawford. I'd agree with the others, a Pacquiao vs Crawford fight seems to be much more interesting and worth much more, but as you said, the organizers for the other side failed in the negotiations hence why it was most likely canceled.

Still, a relatively safe option for the side of Pacquiao. It definitely won't bring as much hype as the Crawford one, but it almost guarantees that Pacquiao has a higher chance of winning than Mikey.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 28, 2021, 05:35:30 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3bHrH6F.jpg
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Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/vegafria-says-pacquiao-mikey-garcia-fight-dubai
Actually what we are having now is an obvious bargaining or Survey if whom will attract more support from the public towards who will be the opponent of Manny Pacqiuao .
We have seen how the people now are not that huge interested in Boxing like what we had before ,specially when pandemic happens that Live watching is being prohibits .
So now the management and the promoter are doing their best on how to attract people again so there are still no confirmation about the next big fight for Manny.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kittygalore on April 28, 2021, 05:37:26 AM
I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made.
It's just rumors yet but Pacquiao fighting more Latinos again is a good surprise for me, it has been a long time coming since he did something like this. If this happens hopefully we can see a bloodbath.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: electronicash on April 28, 2021, 06:06:07 AM
I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.
I guess it's because that fight was worth more, compared to this one in their eyes? Hence why Manny agreed, since his price is definitely lower compared to the one with Crawford. I'd agree with the others, a Pacquiao vs Crawford fight seems to be much more interesting and worth much more, but as you said, the organizers for the other side failed in the negotiations hence why it was most likely canceled.

Still, a relatively safe option for the side of Pacquiao. It definitely won't bring as much hype as the Crawford one, but it almost guarantees that Pacquiao has a higher chance of winning than Mikey.

this fight is also unsure yet although this one comes from the person close to the Pacquiao team as Rappler said. if he didn't ask for $40M Crawford would be a good match. he needs $40M else he won't win the presidential race?

there's still covid everywhere even in Dubai so it's really hard to finalize an event where they can get an amount of audience that can pay him $40M these days. Dana White has to mock covid in an attempt to convince people it's okay to watch UFC.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: EiKaGlaShPriSAThWEl on April 28, 2021, 06:11:34 AM
Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria


I am not hearing any news on TV regarding this fight so I definitely have no idea about this. But if this will happen health protocols must be strictly followed. Lot of boxing fans will surely show their support on each of their bets especially if there will be live viewing for limited persons. Of course the health of the boxers is must. They need a healthy body since it is the requirement on the sports that they are playing. Based on my research Dubai is the safest place in the world so I think there will no problem with that.

Source : https://www.arabianbusiness.com/travel-hospitality/460511-dubai-rated-safest-place-in-world-for-business-travellers-new-survey-shows



Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Jating on April 28, 2021, 10:38:38 AM
I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made.

Yeah, Mikey Garcia's name has been floating for sometime now that Manny will fight. And I think this news has more weight than the Crawford fight. Because if Pacquiao vs Crawford would have to happen, we should have heard a lot of noise already, sadly there's no news outlet at least reporting a positive article about it.

Less money for Pacquiao, but less risk as well. Mikey is also a good gauge for Manny if he still can pull that trigger as Mikey can fight back and he is a good underdog.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Questat on April 28, 2021, 11:01:40 AM
This seems to be okay, we fans of Manny and Crawford should move on, let's consider this fight as a good one as Mikey Garcia also has a great career in boxing though he is not undefeated. I think this has been rumored already before as I have seen an article discussing this fight.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/pacquiao-vs-garcia-odds-analysis-and-pick

as you can see the betting odds is also interesting.

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Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia Odds
Fighter   Odds
Manny Pacquiao   -120
Mikey Garcia   +100


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Botnake on April 28, 2021, 11:27:46 AM
With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 28, 2021, 04:55:25 PM
With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.
I think we need to see the this announcement to be made public before we can see bookies releasing the odds. But I think Manny will be the favorite here.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.
Another disappointment but we can't do anything about it but to what if ever this too great fighters will face each other before they retire. It's more of a loss on Crawford's side, financially.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Baofeng on April 28, 2021, 05:35:43 PM
With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

Definitely, as Manny's fan, regardless if he is the favourite or not, we're going to throw some money on him. Although others may want to see a Crawford fight, this is a good second choice for Pacquiao. He can still make good money out of this fight (and probably help him financially for the next election if he run for the Presidency). So Manny all the way, by decision or by knockout in later rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fredomago on April 28, 2021, 05:59:39 PM
With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

Definitely, as Manny's fan, regardless if he is the favourite or not, we're going to throw some money on him. Although others may want to see a Crawford fight, this is a good second choice for Pacquiao. He can still make good money out of this fight (and probably help him financially for the next election if he run for the Presidency). So Manny all the way, by decision or by knockout in later rounds.

As a fan whoever he'll face it's still good enough to see him inside the ring again. Though Crawford's call is highly anticipated but like what you have said, this also generates interest.

And for this upcoming elections he needed lots of fund for his candidacy, might see him aiming for a higher position not sure though if he'll be running for presidency but the point is clear he needs money to funds not just his campaign but also those good works that he continue to give from those in need.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on April 29, 2021, 11:42:13 AM
With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

That is a very attractive odds but unfortunately it would change as fight night approaches depending on how the training of both camp goes and most of the time, the amount of money that we will win would decrease if we are a Pacman bettors.

But no matter how the odds look like, i will be backing the Pacman here.

I expect this match to be officially announced next month, my fearless forecast.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

Yup, officially off as what old Bob said.

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Arum: Pacquiao-Crawford is Dead Over Money Woes


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: lablab03 on April 29, 2021, 12:12:12 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Ziskinberg on April 29, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on April 29, 2021, 12:52:14 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: freedomgo on April 29, 2021, 01:16:59 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Not an easy opponent for him but we know he usually come up victorious at the end of the fight. Garcia is also looking for a big fight, so its his chance now to fight the legend and at the same time get a good pay check. I'm wondering what would be individual purse on this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 29, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..
Conor lost, that's why the Pacquiao fight was scrapped. So they look for the next big options which is Crawford, unfortunately, the fight was cancelled because of money. Probably ego was too big, no one wanted to move an inch about the money. So now it's Mikey Garcia as the next best option for Pacquiao. Probably getting like 70-30 cut, so it's all good.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Botnake on April 29, 2021, 01:37:09 PM
With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

That is a very attractive odds but unfortunately it would change as fight night approaches depending on how the training of both camp goes and most of the time, the amount of money that we will win would decrease if we are a Pacman bettors.

But no matter how the odds look like, i will be backing the Pacman here.

I expect this match to be officially announced next month, my fearless forecast.
Nice to see we have a lot of Pacman supporters here, if he will be the underdog, that would be better as that would result to a bigger payout as a bettor.
It's expected that he is the favorite as Garcia is not a champion, unlike Crawford.


. So now it's Mikey Garcia as the next best option for Pacquiao. Probably getting like 70-30 cut, so it's all good.

That's justifiable given how popular Manny is, therefore Garcia should take that and should not long for a higher purse so this fight will be finanlized soon.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: robelneo on April 29, 2021, 11:00:06 PM
I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made.
It's just rumors yet but Pacquiao fighting more Latinos again is a good surprise for me, it has been a long time coming since he did something like this. If this happens hopefully we can see a bloodbath.
It's not rumour the one speaking is Pacquiao's business manager, the one that knows the real deal there's a huge possibility that this one will push through although we still need 100% confirmation about the deal, Garcia is a small fighter but can stand toe to toe against Pacquiao, I consider him legit to face Pacquiao, he has a style similar to Juan Manual Marquez, Garcia style will compliment Pacquiao style to come out a very good fight, I hope this fight push through.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Baofeng on April 29, 2021, 11:43:15 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Since Manny is the A-side in this fight, he can dictate the terms of the fight, and for sure Garcia's camp will be in agreement even if Mikey will just get a small portion of the percentage. But yet, this small percentage could be his biggest payday, so again win-win situation for him and his team.

Probably ironing out small things and then they would announce it. Hope Manny will be the underdog here so that it will give us a good win with small capital. Nevertheless, as I have said, will go with Manny, we just need to bet wisely.  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: pilosopotasyo on April 30, 2021, 07:17:32 AM


I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Jating on April 30, 2021, 07:55:17 AM


I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

Manny might be inactive for almost 2 years, but we all know for sure that he takes care of his health when he is not boxing and probably taking on basketball to keep him fit. Of course, it's a different ball game when he has a scheduled fight, but at least keeping his body fit everyday is a good thing and that it will help him a lot when he is going to fight, like in this case against Mikey Garcia.

So it's no biggie if he is out in 2 years, he already proven himself that he can still train and bang with the young guys trying to get his belt. So this is still doable for Manny and then after the fight goes back to his political career/ambitions.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: ultrloa on April 30, 2021, 09:37:29 AM


I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is known for this even if he has a busy schedule still he find a way to his heavy preparation on his fights we already see him became busy especially on election day and he surprise us with his fancy moves and flashy speed, Maybe we can say the time is not on pacquaio by this time but remember his still have solid punch and good posture to fight those young boys in the ring so if this fight will happen maybe we should watch what pacquaio can do since I'm sure he want to prove to the world that he's strong despite of his age.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: coin-investor on April 30, 2021, 11:51:30 AM


Not an easy opponent for him but we know he usually come up victorious at the end of the fight. Garcia is also looking for a big fight, so its his chance now to fight the legend and at the same time get a good pay check. I'm wondering what would be individual purse on this fight.

Between the two Garcia is the hungrier fighter he really wants Pacquiao badly after his losses to Spence, anyone Pacquiao will be a legacy fight and this is going to be Garcia's legacy fight and biggest fight, I just hope he will not show arrogance like what Thurman shows to Pacquiao and the boxing community.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on April 30, 2021, 12:11:47 PM
Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Since Manny is the A-side in this fight, he can dictate the terms of the fight, and for sure Garcia's camp will be in agreement even if Mikey will just get a small portion of the percentage. But yet, this small percentage could be his biggest payday, so again win-win situation for him and his team.

Probably ironing out small things and then they would announce it. Hope Manny will be the underdog here so that it will give us a good win with small capital. Nevertheless, as I have said, will go with Manny, we just need to bet wisely.  ;D

If I were Garcia, I'd accept this fight. He doesn't need to demand too high a paycheck for this. It is acceptable to be given the smaller slice of the purse. After all, that share is still high enough, as you've said, might be his largest ever. Not to mention that he is able to fight against a legend who is already slowing down with age. Although he is not in his best form himself, Manny is definitely a lot older than him and has been inactive for a while.

I'd be very happy if Manny is the underdog in this fight. My money goes out to him as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Vaculin on April 30, 2021, 12:17:29 PM
If I were Garcia, I'd accept this fight. He doesn't need to demand too high a paycheck for this. It is acceptable to be given the smaller slice of the purse. After all, that share is still high enough, as you've said, might be his largest ever. Not to mention that he is able to fight against a legend who is already slowing down with age. Although he is not in his best form himself, Manny is definitely a lot older than him and has been inactive for a while.
Garcia's market is lower compared to Spence and Crawford, so he should accept this fight, not because of the opportunity to earn but to beat Manny, as the moment it will happen, his value will also rise and next fight, he can demand his price.

I'd be very happy if Manny is the underdog in this fight. My money goes out to him as well.
That would not be possible, Manny will be the favorite but only a slight favorite.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Beparanf on April 30, 2021, 12:24:25 PM
If I were Garcia, I'd accept this fight. He doesn't need to demand too high a paycheck for this. It is acceptable to be given the smaller slice of the purse. After all, that share is still high enough, as you've said, might be his largest ever. Not to mention that he is able to fight against a legend who is already slowing down with age. Although he is not in his best form himself, Manny is definitely a lot older than him and has been inactive for a while.
Garcia's market is lower compared to Spence and Crawford, so he should accept this fight, not because of the opportunity to earn but to beat Manny, as the moment it will happen, his value will also rise and next fight, he can demand his price.

I doubt that Pacquiao will accept this offer. He has a limited time remaining on his career so it's common that he will pick a better opponent with a good profit return for him. Spence and Crawford is a strong fighter and at the same time has a high viewers expectancy. I believe he will choose between them since he has nothing to prove for fighting not so hot fighter.

OT, I thought Mcgregor is the one who he will fight this year though. IRC.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Oasisman on April 30, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
I doubt that Pacquiao will accept this offer. He has a limited time remaining on his career so it's common that he will pick a better opponent with a good profit return for him. Spence and Crawford is a strong fighter and at the same time has a high viewers expectancy. I believe he will choose between them since he has nothing to prove for fighting not so hot fighter.

OT, I thought Mcgregor is the one who he will fight this year though. IRC.

I also have Spence or Crawford in my mind as Pacquiao's next possible opponent. But If these both figthers would not come to an agreement against Pacquiao, Mikey is one of the best option. He isn't a bad fighter though.
I mean the fight could be entertaining as Mikey is an aggressive fighter and that's what Pacquiao wants as long as he have enough stamina left in his tank even with his age.

Let's see If they'll push this match. They might be testing the waters for now. If it really sells, they'll pursue it for sure.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: AicecreaME on April 30, 2021, 12:44:39 PM
It'll be hard for any fight to be locked for Pacquiao during these times, not unless the opponent would be Mayweather (which we know will never happen), then the money will talk for itself and Dubai would surely agree.

The fight against Mikey Garcia is not really something that's gonna get a lot of views even though Pacquiao is in the ring. It's just like a filler arc in a movie/tv series that happens but isn't really significant at all. No disrespect to Mikey Garcia but he just doesn't have the appeal to be matched against Pacquiao and generate those PPV sales.

I agree, but still since it's Manny Pacquiao, many people will still fight however, many will bet on Manny because of his boxing records. Mikey's record is just the same but Pacquiao is more superior when it comes to power and experience. Their age gap difference would not be a big factor so this fight, if ever gonna happen will be a good one. Let's just wait for further confirmation about this before we lose our hope on this to happen.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: rodskee on April 30, 2021, 12:49:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3bHrH6F.jpg
ctto

Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

Quote
Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/vegafria-says-pacquiao-mikey-garcia-fight-dubai
Why Garcia? I am looking for other popular and related fighter but not included this one ..

I will be for Pacquiao surely in this fight and no other chance for this Garcia to take this fight into his favor.

Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..
Well the Advertising team is seeking for whos the Bet of majority that is what they're doing now , if the response favors one then it will be done months from now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 30, 2021, 01:27:33 PM
~snip~
I will be for Pacquiao surely in this fight and no other chance for this Garcia to take this fight into his favor.
^ I will do the same as your pick, probably the one who will get the highest odds is Manny Pacquiao and Garcia will become the underdog of Manny Pacquiao. Is there anyone of you got the current odds between them? Both are the same very aggressive fighters but this Manny Pacquiao's fight always has the potential to win. I think Garcia can not survive for at least 12 rounds of this match, what you guess about this? How many rounds will probably Garcia will survive?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kasabus on April 30, 2021, 01:38:57 PM
~snip~
I will be for Pacquiao surely in this fight and no other chance for this Garcia to take this fight into his favor.
^ I will do the same as your pick, probably the one who will get the highest odds is Manny Pacquiao and Garcia will become the underdog of Manny Pacquiao. Is there anyone of you got the current odds between them? Both are the same very aggressive fighters but this Manny Pacquiao's fight always has the potential to win. I think Garcia can not survive for at least 12 rounds of this match, what you guess about this? How many rounds will probably Garcia will survive?

You will be surprised that 3 boxers with Garcia's surname want to fight him.

1. Ryan Garcia
2. Mikey Garcia
3. Danny Garcia.

He can fight all these Garcias before he retires, ;D

Anyway, the odds for this particular fight can be seen here https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/pacquiao-vs-garcia-odds-analysis-and-pick



Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on April 30, 2021, 01:39:23 PM
If I were Garcia, I'd accept this fight. He doesn't need to demand too high a paycheck for this. It is acceptable to be given the smaller slice of the purse. After all, that share is still high enough, as you've said, might be his largest ever. Not to mention that he is able to fight against a legend who is already slowing down with age. Although he is not in his best form himself, Manny is definitely a lot older than him and has been inactive for a while.
Garcia's market is lower compared to Spence and Crawford, so he should accept this fight, not because of the opportunity to earn but to beat Manny, as the moment it will happen, his value will also rise and next fight, he can demand his price.

I doubt that Pacquiao will accept this offer. He has a limited time remaining on his career so it's common that he will pick a better opponent with a good profit return for him. Spence and Crawford is a strong fighter and at the same time has a high viewers expectancy. I believe he will choose between them since he has nothing to prove for fighting not so hot fighter.

OT, I thought Mcgregor is the one who he will fight this year though. IRC.

Team Pacquiao might not want their fighter to fight Spence. The Crawford deal is considered dead right now. I don't know if that news is true but it seems so. So there is no other option left for now but Mikey Garcia. Or if this will not bring any final deal then the team won't have other choice but to look for another potential opponent.

Pacquiao might not be looking for a better opponent. As you said, he has nothing to prove. He is probably looking for an easier one with the most money he can make.

That McGregor-Pacquiao fight was only a rumor. I think that talk didn't even make it to the negotiating table.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: ReiMomo on April 30, 2021, 01:58:18 PM
~snip~
That McGregor-Pacquiao fight was only a rumor. I think that talk didn't even make it to the negotiating table.
I also thought that this will happen and there's a thread here about the rumor of their fight but I think the McGregor-Pacquiao fight will not happen anymore. I guess Pacman will always seeking an easy match and I guess right, he was now looking for easy making profit because he knows that Mikey Garcia is an easy player for him to defeat.

I'm in favor of Pacman, he is a good fighter and that's proven for how many years, almost his fight is in a win-win situation. So, probably now let's find good bookies where we can place our bets.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Ziskinberg on April 30, 2021, 02:21:22 PM
~snip~
That McGregor-Pacquiao fight was only a rumor. I think that talk didn't even make it to the negotiating table.
I also thought that this will happen and there's a thread here about the rumor of their fight but I think the McGregor-Pacquiao fight will not happen anymore.
Most likely because McGregor lose in his last fight, a win could have been his ticket to fight Manny and they'll both make a good payday.

I guess Pacman will always seeking an easy match and I guess right, he was now looking for easy making profit because he knows that Mikey Garcia is an easy player for him to defeat.

I'm in favor of Pacman, he is a good fighter and that's proven for how many years, almost his fight is in a win-win situation. So, probably now let's find good bookies where we can place our bets.

not really, if you see his opponents, most of them are champions and they become Manny's stepping stone to be one of the greatest boxer that has ever live if not the best boxer. Another fight for him, we still expect he will win as he has proven through time that he is not aging.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: yazher on April 30, 2021, 03:06:55 PM


I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

That's right and this one is the easiest fight for him than his other options. I think he should take it if he wanted to refresh his popularity to the Pilipinos for the upcoming elections. We only see that there's still lots of time left but in reality, they are running out of it and the situation is not looking good. This is a take it, or leave it without a fight this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Oceat on April 30, 2021, 03:12:48 PM


I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is known for this even if he has a busy schedule still he find a way to his heavy preparation on his fights we already see him became busy especially on election day and he surprise us with his fancy moves and flashy speed, Maybe we can say the time is not on pacquaio by this time but remember his still have solid punch and good posture to fight those young boys in the ring so if this fight will happen maybe we should watch what pacquaio can do since I'm sure he want to prove to the world that he's strong despite of his age.
I really don't know what Manny Pacquiao want when he had almost everything yet he joined politics maybe he wanted to prove something that no matter how busy you are you can still have enough time to do sports or maybe it's just that he couldn't shove away this hobby of training and fighting at the same time that's why he wanted to make it worth it until his time of retirement.

Anyway, Pacquiao and Garcia fight might be a good fight but all of this news are all speculation because rumors are everywhere yet none of it came to light. So, it's better to wait the official report from one of their camp if who would be the opponent of Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Cling18 on April 30, 2021, 03:59:23 PM
~snip~
I will be for Pacquiao surely in this fight and no other chance for this Garcia to take this fight into his favor.
^ I will do the same as your pick, probably the one who will get the highest odds is Manny Pacquiao and Garcia will become the underdog of Manny Pacquiao. Is there anyone of you got the current odds between them? Both are the same very aggressive fighters but this Manny Pacquiao's fight always has the potential to win. I think Garcia can not survive for at least 12 rounds of this match, what you guess about this? How many rounds will probably Garcia will survive?

Pacquiao has proven us a lot and we already know how dedicated he is when he fights. I don't think Garcia is too ready to beat him. However, I don't also think that Manny would prioritize having matches during this kind of situation. We should know that he's also a politician and he's busy helping people and doing his duty during this pandemic.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: wxa7115 on April 30, 2021, 04:50:52 PM
Just yesterday, I shared a tweet here:

Mike Coppinger reports that “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through,” and the fight “appears all but dead.” (https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1385750689687605249)

It's about the supposed June 5 fight in Abu Dhabi between welterweight champ Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao. It says “funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through" so the fight might not happen.

What I'm trying to picture out is, what's the difference between investors in Dubai and Abu Dhabi where I think these investors are associated with each other (Dubai is a neighbor of Abu Dhabi). Let's see if this time, Manny can seal a deal.
I just want to see Manny fight again, Manny is getting older and he is still defying the expectations but he needs to get back on the ring as the pandemic is slowly subsiding and he needs to get back on rhythm.

What I wonder is if Manny has released any kind of statement saying when he wants to retire or if he is going to take it fight by fight as he has many responsibilities already as a politician and he does not have the time he had before to train as he is supposed to and as we know this can be risky in a contact sport like boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fredomago on April 30, 2021, 05:21:51 PM
~snip~
That McGregor-Pacquiao fight was only a rumor. I think that talk didn't even make it to the negotiating table.
I also thought that this will happen and there's a thread here about the rumor of their fight but I think the McGregor-Pacquiao fight will not happen anymore. I guess Pacman will always seeking an easy match and I guess right, he was now looking for easy making profit because he knows that Mikey Garcia is an easy player for him to defeat.

I'm in favor of Pacman, he is a good fighter and that's proven for how many years, almost his fight is in a win-win situation. So, probably now let's find good bookies where we can place our bets.

No confirmation about that fight (Mcgregor-Pacman) it's just a rumors and they've try to make some noise if fans will embrace and support that event.

Maybe they didn't see that interest will grow since the fight between Mcgregor and Mayweather was decided not really appealing.

Now that finally Pacquiao have a fight whoever it is the value of his name still there, fans loves to see him inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: dunfida on April 30, 2021, 05:29:10 PM
~snip~
That McGregor-Pacquiao fight was only a rumor. I think that talk didn't even make it to the negotiating table.
I also thought that this will happen and there's a thread here about the rumor of their fight but I think the McGregor-Pacquiao fight will not happen anymore. I guess Pacman will always seeking an easy match and I guess right, he was now looking for easy making profit because he knows that Mikey Garcia is an easy player for him to defeat.

I'm in favor of Pacman, he is a good fighter and that's proven for how many years, almost his fight is in a win-win situation. So, probably now let's find good bookies where we can place our bets.

No confirmation about that fight (Mcgregor-Pacman) it's just a rumors and they've try to make some noise if fans will embrace and support that event.

Maybe they didn't see that interest will grow since the fight between Mcgregor and Mayweather was decided not really appealing.

Now that finally Pacquiao have a fight whoever it is the value of his name still there, fans loves to see him inside the ring.
I do also have the feeling that they are really trying to spread out some rumors  or trying out some public reactions and see if it is really enough to create some hype
and once they dont see any significant interest or demand then that would really be just remaining as a rumor and that fight wont really be pushed.It had happened
for some potential match ups but it didnt really push that through just because of those common reasons.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: acroman08 on April 30, 2021, 05:45:07 PM
it seems that Pacquiao will fight Mikey Garcia in July or August. a recent article (posted four hours ago) stated that Arnold Vegafria(Pacquiao's business manager) and Jayke Joson(close Associate) confirmed that many Pacquiao will be returning for the first time after his fight with Kieth Thurman.

Not as excited about this fight but still glad to see him fighting again after two years.

https://manilastandard.net/sports/fightsports/353229/pacman-battles-garcia-in-dubai.html

I do also have the feeling that they are really trying to spread out some rumors  or trying out some public reactions and see if it is really enough to create some hype
and once they dont see any significant interest or demand then that would really be just remaining as a rumor and that fight wont really be pushed.It had happened
for some potential match ups but it didnt really push that through just because of those common reasons.
according to Pacquiao's Manager, there was a proposal to fight Connor Mcgregor and will remain on as an option after the fight with Garcia.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Saisher on April 30, 2021, 10:00:55 PM

according to Pacquiao's Manager, there was a proposal to fight Connor Mcgregor and will remain on as an option after the fight with Garcia.
Mcgregor is going to be an easy fight for Manny, after the Garcia fight and if he wins against Garcia he can even campaign for the election while on training but he must beat Garcia first based on the article it seems Manny is very keen in continuing his boxing career even if he is elected in the office, I'm pretty sure he'll go for a high position probably the vice president or the president position.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 30, 2021, 10:09:42 PM
it seems that Pacquiao will fight Mikey Garcia in July or August. a recent article (posted four hours ago) stated that Arnold Vegafria(Pacquiao's business manager) and Jayke Joson(close Associate) confirmed that many Pacquiao will be returning for the first time after his fight with Kieth Thurman.

Not as excited about this fight but still glad to see him fighting again after two years.

https://manilastandard.net/sports/fightsports/353229/pacman-battles-garcia-in-dubai.html

I do also have the feeling that they are really trying to spread out some rumors  or trying out some public reactions and see if it is really enough to create some hype
and once they dont see any significant interest or demand then that would really be just remaining as a rumor and that fight wont really be pushed.It had happened
for some potential match ups but it didnt really push that through just because of those common reasons.
according to Pacquiao's Manager, there was a proposal to fight Connor Mcgregor and will remain on as an option after the fight with Garcia.

we will know if this fight will indeed be a reality once bookies start to list this match - Pac vs Garcia or start selling tickets. up until then, we dont know if this will push thru 100%. maybe, they are still weighing their options here, if they can attract audience or not. their promoter can easily change their minds according to what is favourable to his camp.
but in any case, there's always a lot of spectators when it comes to pacquiao's fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Baofeng on April 30, 2021, 10:12:11 PM
@Fundamentals Of - Mikey and his brother trainer Robert are obsessed with Manny  ;D, so for sure whatever the purse will be, they are going to accept it.

@Beparanf - I think Manny will accept it, less risk for him, and after winning, he can still chase the big dogs, Spence Jr or Crawford. The McGregor fight could make a lot of noise if Connor won his match against Dustin Poirier, but he was beaten badly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on April 30, 2021, 10:31:34 PM
@Fundamentals Of - Mikey and his brother trainer Robert are obsessed with Manny  ;D, so for sure whatever the purse will be, they are going to accept it.

@Beparanf - I think Manny will accept it, less risk for him, and after winning, he can still chase the big dogs, Spence Jr or Crawford. The McGregor fight could make a lot of noise if Connor won his match against Dustin Poirier, but he was beaten badly.

Beaten badly in the sports he used to excel hehe, for sure Manny will beat him worse than that of Dustin Poirier. Anyway i think there is a possibility that these two will meet on an exhibition match someday  ;D.


Manny vs Mikey is the best fight for the Pacman himself, may not be the best for some boxing fans but we also have to consider that Manny has already brought happiness to his fans and it's time for us to support whatever his decisions will be. Personally, i'm already glad that he will be back in the ring to fight once again and ignoring the urge of his family to retire.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Hippocrypto on April 30, 2021, 11:21:02 PM
~snip~
ctto

Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/vegafria-says-pacquiao-mikey-garcia-fight-dubai

I don't think it would be healthy for him now, since Manny isn't that focus compared from his last previous successful fights. The situation of Pacman these days has been divided, because of his political career due to his rumoured future Presidential candidacy which is now become controversial for several netizens who've been following his entire life.
Hopefully this would got good results and doesn't affect his incoming fights despite the fact of pressures behind him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: plr on April 30, 2021, 11:34:37 PM


Manny vs Mikey is the best fight for the Pacman himself, may not be the best for some boxing fans but we also have to consider that Manny has already brought happiness to his fans and it's time for us to support whatever his decisions will be. Personally, i'm already glad that he will be back in the ring to fight once again and ignoring the urge of his family to retire.


Although Manny has dealt with big men in the past I like him to fight boxers with the same size as he is and Garcia is a fighter that can compliment Pacquiao's style, they say style makes fights, and a match with Garcia will bring exciting results for the community to enjoy, I like this one to push through, it's not going to be an easy fight for Manny though, Mikey has a very good trainer in his brother.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kemarit on April 30, 2021, 11:35:06 PM
~snip~
ctto

Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

Quote
Pacquiao vs Garcia in Dubai, says Vegafria

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/vegafria-says-pacquiao-mikey-garcia-fight-dubai

I don't think it would be healthy for him now, since Manny isn't that focus compared from his last previous successful fights. The situation of Pacman these days has been divided, because of his political career due to his rumoured future Presidential candidacy which is now become controversial for several netizens who've been following his entire life.
Hopefully this would got good results and doesn't affect his incoming fights despite the fact of pressures behind him.

Well if we go on your argument, then Manny wouldn't have focus on his boxing career since he enter politics. And yet we still saw him winning against the young Thurman. So I don't think that Manny is divided up to this point.

If he goes boxing, then he is 100% focus, we can still see the old Manny trying like he even doesn't age. So after his fight, goes back to his desk job as the fighting Senator of the Philippines. And we really admire how Manny develops, from his obscure beginning to now a Senator or possibly the next President of the Philippines.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: TravelMug on April 30, 2021, 11:37:55 PM


Manny vs Mikey is the best fight for the Pacman himself, may not be the best for some boxing fans but we also have to consider that Manny has already brought happiness to his fans and it's time for us to support whatever his decisions will be. Personally, i'm already glad that he will be back in the ring to fight once again and ignoring the urge of his family to retire.


Although Manny has dealt with big men in the past I like him to fight boxers with the same size as he is and Garcia is a fighter that can compliment Pacquiao's style, they say style makes fights, and a match with Garcia will bring exciting results for the community to enjoy, I like this one to push through, it's not going to be an easy fight for Manny though, Mikey has a very good trainer in his brother.

I like the term "compliment" his style, in order words, Mikey is tailor made for Manny.

For sure once Mikey taste Manny's power, all of his plans are going to thrown out of the window and for sure he might fight fire with fire. And that's where Manny is dangerous, because he fights in angle, throw punches that you don't see. Mikey has a great chin, no doubt about it, but who knows, Manny might crack it for the first time and we might see Mikey being knock out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Ararbermas on May 01, 2021, 01:24:29 AM
I'm seeing Manny knocking out Garcia with brutal left.
.if mikey don't see it coming for sure he will collapse in the ring tbh its proven and tested. Lol

 But i know this men garcia is strong enough to fight manny pacquiao in the ring but he will have problems if he cant dance with many,, because we all knows many footworks is unbelievable at the age of 40+,, indeed mostly of pacs opponents say he's like san goku because of the speed and power. ;D Btw i hope this is not fake news because this will be a great fight in this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: stadus on May 01, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
I'm seeing Manny knocking out Garcia with brutal left.
.if mikey don't see it coming for sure he will collapse in the ring tbh its proven and tested. Lol

 But i know this men garcia is strong enough to fight manny pacquiao in the ring but he will have problems if he cant dance with many,, because we all knows many footworks is unbelievable at the age of 40+,, indeed mostly of pacs opponents say he's like san goku because of the speed and power. ;D Btw i hope this is not fake news because this will be a great fight in this year.

This isn't fake news for sure, but this is not official yet, you can see the title of the op is ?..

The Crawford vs Pacquiao fight was supposed to be a big one, but it didn't happen, so let's just hope Pacquiao will be able to get a good fight at least 1 this year. Mikey Garcia is not an easy opponent though, Pacquiao still has to prepare for him, and we know he will as he had never taken for granted any of his opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: pilosopotasyo on May 02, 2021, 08:39:25 AM


For sure once Mikey taste Manny's power, all of his plans are going to thrown out of the window and for sure he might fight fire with fire. And that's where Manny is dangerous, because he fights in angle, throw punches that you don't see. Mikey has a great chin, no doubt about it, but who knows, Manny might crack it for the first time and we might see Mikey being knock out.

If Mikey Garcia can have the counter-punching power of Marquez he can give Pacquiao trouble, Marquez style is very suited to Pacquiao who can attack at many angles, if Garcia can deplete and counter this kind of attacks he will have a good chance, Garcia has a better chance here if the fight goes the distance, age factor will play a factor here, Garcia should show aggressiveness since he is the challenger although Pacquiao doesn't have the title anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: mirakal on May 02, 2021, 12:54:12 PM


For sure once Mikey taste Manny's power, all of his plans are going to thrown out of the window and for sure he might fight fire with fire. And that's where Manny is dangerous, because he fights in angle, throw punches that you don't see. Mikey has a great chin, no doubt about it, but who knows, Manny might crack it for the first time and we might see Mikey being knock out.

If Mikey Garcia can have the counter-punching power of Marquez he can give Pacquiao trouble, Marquez style is very suited to Pacquiao who can attack at many angles, if Garcia can deplete and counter this kind of attacks he will have a good chance, Garcia has a better chance here if the fight goes the distance, age factor will play a factor here, Garcia should show aggressiveness since he is the challenger although Pacquiao doesn't have the title anymore.

Pacquiao is also a good counter puncher, he was just so careless during his fight with Marquez so he got KO> maybe he wants to end the debate on who is the better fighter by winning convincingly and he did not pay attention to his defense. Mikey Garcia needs more than that to win against Pacquiao, and he knows that himself that he is fighting the best boxer on the planet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Oasisman on May 02, 2021, 01:24:00 PM


For sure once Mikey taste Manny's power, all of his plans are going to thrown out of the window and for sure he might fight fire with fire. And that's where Manny is dangerous, because he fights in angle, throw punches that you don't see. Mikey has a great chin, no doubt about it, but who knows, Manny might crack it for the first time and we might see Mikey being knock out.

If Mikey Garcia can have the counter-punching power of Marquez he can give Pacquiao trouble, Marquez style is very suited to Pacquiao who can attack at many angles, if Garcia can deplete and counter this kind of attacks he will have a good chance, Garcia has a better chance here if the fight goes the distance, age factor will play a factor here, Garcia should show aggressiveness since he is the challenger although Pacquiao doesn't have the title anymore.

Garcia's fighting style was aggressive as usual. I don't know If he'll change it against Pacquiao. He (Garcia) knows what Pacquiao is capable of. The old Pacquiao still has speed and agility though the stamina and power was clearly not the same on his prime and that's quite visible during the Thurman fight.

The only thing for Garcia to put in mind, is to never underestimate Pacquiao on this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: stadus on May 02, 2021, 09:41:21 PM


For sure once Mikey taste Manny's power, all of his plans are going to thrown out of the window and for sure he might fight fire with fire. And that's where Manny is dangerous, because he fights in angle, throw punches that you don't see. Mikey has a great chin, no doubt about it, but who knows, Manny might crack it for the first time and we might see Mikey being knock out.

If Mikey Garcia can have the counter-punching power of Marquez he can give Pacquiao trouble, Marquez style is very suited to Pacquiao who can attack at many angles, if Garcia can deplete and counter this kind of attacks he will have a good chance, Garcia has a better chance here if the fight goes the distance, age factor will play a factor here, Garcia should show aggressiveness since he is the challenger although Pacquiao doesn't have the title anymore.

Garcia's fighting style was aggressive as usual. I don't know If he'll change it against Pacquiao. He (Garcia) knows what Pacquiao is capable of. The old Pacquiao still has speed and agility though the stamina and power was clearly not the same on his prime and that's quite visible during the Thurman fight.

The only thing for Garcia to put in mind, is to never underestimate Pacquiao on this match.

That kind of style will certainly make the fans enjoy this fight, Manny is aggressive and he likes an aggressive fighter too. IMO, that's the only way to beat Pacquiao too, if an opponent will not run from him, Pacquiao will feel that the opponent is strong enough to fight him toe to toe. I've seen this during his last fight where Manny got a little tired in the end, and as I expected, it ended a close fight Pacquiao winning by split decision only.

Garcia has to be aggressive from the start until the fight is over, doesn't matter if he can't kO Pacquiao but as long as he is aggressive, he will have a chance of winning in judgest scorecards.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: robelneo on May 03, 2021, 12:54:42 AM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 07:17:59 AM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.
I don't get how they are having a problem with this kind of decision, the money isn't enough for both sides I guess but I hope that this rumors will bear fruit because I want to see Pacquiao get in action, it has been years you know.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on May 03, 2021, 07:58:15 AM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.

Until everything is not set in stone yet, the question mark will remain but i am very confident that this is already a done deal and the official announcement of this fight will be in a few days.

Manny vs Terrence is dead because on the huge amount of money to stage the fight while this one may entail only a cost half or even lower than that required of the Crawford vs Pacman fight.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Jating on May 03, 2021, 09:53:43 AM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.

Until everything is not set in stone yet, the question mark will remain but i am very confident that this is already a done deal and the official announcement of this fight will be in a few days.

Manny vs Terrence is dead because on the huge amount of money to stage the fight while this one may entail only a cost half or even lower than that required of the Crawford vs Pacman fight.

Maybe both camps are really quiet as this time because they are ironing this out. But I agree that this could be 90% already done in paper as it was released by one of Manny's closest confidante.

And will only release it officially in public once Manny has sign the dotted line, meaning everything is in order (date, venue, purse split etc..).

Crawford is possible though, or even Spence Jr in the future for Manny.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bitterguy28 on May 03, 2021, 10:04:52 AM
~snip~
I will be for Pacquiao surely in this fight and no other chance for this Garcia to take this fight into his favor.
^ I will do the same as your pick, probably the one who will get the highest odds is Manny Pacquiao and Garcia will become the underdog of Manny Pacquiao. Is there anyone of you got the current odds between them? Both are the same very aggressive fighters but this Manny Pacquiao's fight always has the potential to win. I think Garcia can not survive for at least 12 rounds of this match, what you guess about this? How many rounds will probably Garcia will survive?

You will be surprised that 3 boxers with Garcia's surname want to fight him.

1. Ryan Garcia
2. Mikey Garcia
3. Danny Garcia.

He can fight all these Garcias before he retires, ;D

Anyway, the odds for this particular fight can be seen here https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/pacquiao-vs-garcia-odds-analysis-and-pick


are they all related? it looks like Manny Pacquiao is having a tribe fight  ;D

the Odds are good and seemingly for my favor.
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.

Until everything is not set in stone yet, the question mark will remain but i am very confident that this is already a done deal and the official announcement of this fight will be in a few days.

Manny vs Terrence is dead because on the huge amount of money to stage the fight while this one may entail only a cost half or even lower than that required of the Crawford vs Pacman fight.


and Just waiting for the fans reaction for this to be finally written in stone.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 03, 2021, 10:18:34 AM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.

Until everything is not set in stone yet, the question mark will remain but i am very confident that this is already a done deal and the official announcement of this fight will be in a few days.

Manny vs Terrence is dead because on the huge amount of money to stage the fight while this one may entail only a cost half or even lower than that required of the Crawford vs Pacman fight.

Maybe both camps are really quiet as this time because they are ironing this out. But I agree that this could be 90% already done in paper as it was released by one of Manny's closest confidante.

And will only release it officially in public once Manny has sign the dotted line, meaning everything is in order (date, venue, purse split etc..).
Hopefully, that was really the status now, until the final statement is release, we are still left speculating of this fight, and we don't want to get disappointed like what happen to Crawford vs Pacquiao.

Crawford is possible though, or even Spence Jr in the future for Manny.

Maybe Spence, Crawford has the chance but it did not materialize.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fredomago on May 03, 2021, 11:03:07 AM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.

Until everything is not set in stone yet, the question mark will remain but i am very confident that this is already a done deal and the official announcement of this fight will be in a few days.

Manny vs Terrence is dead because on the huge amount of money to stage the fight while this one may entail only a cost half or even lower than that required of the Crawford vs Pacman fight.

Maybe both camps are really quiet as this time because they are ironing this out. But I agree that this could be 90% already done in paper as it was released by one of Manny's closest confidante.

And will only release it officially in public once Manny has sign the dotted line, meaning everything is in order (date, venue, purse split etc..).

Crawford is possible though, or even Spence Jr in the future for Manny.

The final say will be dictated after the release of both camps final announcements, the promoters will bring that
 paper works once  everything has been signed.

Looking forward for that 90% becoming perfectly sure as 100% this fight might something to cheerish as Pacquiao's reamianing fight
already counted in hands.

Good news to come maybe after some weeks of completing all the preparations..


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Yamifoud on May 03, 2021, 12:31:34 PM
I'm checking the internet for full confirmation of the fight but the latest one is what we have five days ago come from his road manager, this a done deal Pacquiao already hinted that they are leaning on a Garcia fight if Crawford deal did not push through, the Crawford deal is now off since they cannot sustain it and the best deal right now is the Mikey Garcia fight, the title of this thread has a question mark on it, until they sign the contract it will continue to be in a question mark.

Until everything is not set in stone yet, the question mark will remain but i am very confident that this is already a done deal and the official announcement of this fight will be in a few days.

Manny vs Terrence is dead because on the huge amount of money to stage the fight while this one may entail only a cost half or even lower than that required of the Crawford vs Pacman fight.

Maybe both camps are really quiet as this time because they are ironing this out. But I agree that this could be 90% already done in paper as it was released by one of Manny's closest confidante.

And will only release it officially in public once Manny has sign the dotted line, meaning everything is in order (date, venue, purse split etc..).

Crawford is possible though, or even Spence Jr in the future for Manny.

The final say will be dictated after the release of both camps final announcements, the promoters will bring that
 paper works once  everything has been signed.

Looking forward for that 90% becoming perfectly sure as 100% this fight might something to cheerish as Pacquiao's reamianing fight
already counted in hands.

Good news to come maybe after some weeks of completing all the preparations..

It looks very positive that this fight will happen because Garcia is the one who are willing to fight Pacquiao. I browse some articles and all I read sounds like Garcia would really love to have a fight with Pacquiao, and with that, I guess the camp of Pacquiao will not have a hard time of negotiating with Garcia's camp.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/03/mikey-garcia-waiting-on-manny-pacquiao/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fredomago on May 03, 2021, 02:23:22 PM

It looks very positive that this fight will happen because Garcia is the one who are willing to fight Pacquiao. I browse some articles and all I read sounds like Garcia would really love to have a fight with Pacquiao, and with that, I guess the camp of Pacquiao will not have a hard time of negotiating with Garcia's camp.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/03/mikey-garcia-waiting-on-manny-pacquiao/

Good to hear that, Garcia's camps will benefits with this fight, facing Manny bring his name to all those fans of Pacman all over the world.

It's a good catch for him especially if he gives Manny a good fight that fans enjoy, though we need to wait still for the final settlement and complete details about this fight.

Looking forward to see them meeting each other if possible in much earlier cates.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 03, 2021, 08:25:55 PM
Good to hear that, Garcia's camps will benefits with this fight, facing Manny bring his name to all those fans of Pacman all over the world.

It's a good catch for him especially if he gives Manny a good fight that fans enjoy, though we need to wait still for the final settlement and complete details about this fight.
It is a great opportunity for Mikey Garcia  to come out with a standout performance and impress the fans world over because if can give a tough fight for Manny Pacquiao even when he is in his last part of his career it will be a huge boost for his confidence moving forward and the money he will be earning will be pretty good.

Manny Pacquiao is the favorite in the fight but some are expecting an upset in this match up but i can only predict after the weigh ins and after watching some behind the scene shows to determine where to place the bets.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: goinmerry on May 03, 2021, 08:31:41 PM
but i can only predict after the weigh ins and after watching some behind the scene shows to determine where to place the bets.

I don't see how after weigh-ins or after watching some videos about the inside of the stuff of both boxer's preparation can affect our betting.

Usually, at any of the matches, boxers are shown aggressive and putting lots of works into practice to show that they are 100% buff into the fight.

Anyways if that's your basis then up to you to follow since we all have our own factors to consider before placing a bet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: yazher on May 03, 2021, 08:48:55 PM
I just heard earlier from Manny's words that he will return to boxing in 2021 or by next year. I just watch his interview regarding his possible Presidential Candidate in the next election and his boxing career. I don't think a fight will happen in July since he said he will fight either in 2021 or 2022. I assumed that what he meant for that was, he will fight in the last quarter of this year or the first quarter of next year, and all of his energy will be in this upcoming fight since he needed it most to gather support for the election day.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: freedomgo on May 03, 2021, 08:55:45 PM
I just heard earlier from Manny's words that he will return to boxing in 2021 or by next year. I just watch his interview regarding his possible Presidential Candidate in the next election and his boxing career. I don't think a fight will happen in July since he said he will fight either in 2021 or 2022. I assumed that what he meant for that was, he will fight in the last quarter of this year or the first quarter of next year, and all of his energy will be in this upcoming fight since he needed it most to gather support for the election day.
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: JoMarrah Iarim Dan on May 04, 2021, 08:52:56 AM
Pacquiao is known for this even if he has a busy schedule still he find a way to his heavy preparation on his fights we already see him became busy especially on election day and he surprise us with his fancy moves and flashy speed, Maybe we can say the time is not on pacquaio by this time but remember his still have solid punch and good posture to fight those young boys in the ring so if this fight will happen maybe we should watch what pacquaio can do since I'm sure he want to prove to the world that he's strong despite of his age.

I thought Pacquaio will not fight on the ring anymore. I thought he will just focus in serving his country by being a senator or president in the next years to come. He already made a good career in boxing and I know I am a solid fan. Maybe he want to prove something more? I dont know but I am just thinking about his health since lot of boxers suffer from different kind of health conditions years after they stop fighting. Anyway I am still betting on the peoples' champ. I think it is also a good event during this pandemic season but of course I hope health protocols must be strictly followed because the health of the boxers are important.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on May 04, 2021, 10:40:16 AM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Questat on May 04, 2021, 11:44:43 AM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.
Hype is necessary in order to make the fight successful, and they have all the tools, Manny Pacquiao is a legend, very popular in the sports of boxing and therefore there's no doubt he can attract a lot of viewers, if they will fight in a country where the crowd is allowed, then definitely they will make more money.

And as the speculation is saying Dubai, then let this fight happen in Dubat.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Botnake on May 04, 2021, 09:44:33 PM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.
Hype is necessary in order to make the fight successful, and they have all the tools, Manny Pacquiao is a legend, very popular in the sports of boxing and therefore there's no doubt he can attract a lot of viewers, if they will fight in a country where the crowd is allowed, then definitely they will make more money.

And as the speculation is saying Dubai, then let this fight happen in Dubai.

Or the fight should happen this year, whatever venue it is, what matters is Manny will fight this year. We all understand that this pandemic has caused a lot of problems, however, they should not allow it to stop their career, probably they will not make money as usual, but for sure they can still make a decent income during this pandemic if they'll fight. If I'm not mistaken, Manny hasn't fought in this country yet, so it's about time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 04, 2021, 10:36:27 PM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.

Maybe for now, they just sent feelers in the public, so they will know what is the reaction of the boxing fans. And from that, they can decide whether to push thru the match or not. Promoters are smart, they won't commit unless they can get their targets. But it seems, high likely that Pacquiao will have a fight this year one way or another.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 05, 2021, 04:23:04 AM
Or the fight should happen this year, whatever venue it is, what matters is Manny will fight this year. We all understand that this pandemic has caused a lot of problems, however, they should not allow it to stop their career, probably they will not make money as usual, but for sure they can still make a decent income during this pandemic if they'll fight. If I'm not mistaken, Manny hasn't fought in this country yet, so it's about time.

If there is a fight, then it should happen this year. Because next year, Pacquiao will be busy with the presidential elections in Philippines (a very foolish step, if you ask me. But he is adamant). And already 4 months have passed for this year, and in case he wants a fight against Garcia, then everything needs to be confirmed by either this month or the next month. Because it takes a lot of time to arrange for the logistics, especially when the pandemic is affecting the schedules. If there is further delay from the Pacquiao team, then I don't think that he'll face anyone inside the boxing ring this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Botnake on May 06, 2021, 12:31:32 PM
Or the fight should happen this year, whatever venue it is, what matters is Manny will fight this year. We all understand that this pandemic has caused a lot of problems, however, they should not allow it to stop their career, probably they will not make money as usual, but for sure they can still make a decent income during this pandemic if they'll fight. If I'm not mistaken, Manny hasn't fought in this country yet, so it's about time.

If there is a fight, then it should happen this year. Because next year, Pacquiao will be busy with the presidential elections in Philippines (a very foolish step, if you ask me. But he is adamant). And already 4 months have passed for this year, and in case he wants a fight against Garcia, then everything needs to be confirmed by either this month or the next month. Because it takes a lot of time to arrange for the logistics, especially when the pandemic is affecting the schedules. If there is further delay from the Pacquiao team, then I don't think that he'll face anyone inside the boxing ring this year.

I guess it will really happen this year, Pacman has become more ambitious in politics, hence he needs money to finance his big dream. Although I don't like him to run for a higher position, he has the money, so he has the capacity, let him do what he like but I'm certain that he will not win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on May 06, 2021, 01:23:32 PM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.

I don't think they are creating a hype at this point, i think they are just ironing some things before formally announcing the date and venue of the fight. Humors have it that once they will announce the date of the fight, Pacman will also announce his retirement.

The best month for this match is July, so there is still time for an eight weeks training for Manny.

This would be his last fight as he could no longer fight next year as it is the time for the Presidential election of the Philippines which Manny has plan on running for the highest office of the land.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: wxa7115 on May 06, 2021, 05:06:51 PM
Good to hear that, Garcia's camps will benefits with this fight, facing Manny bring his name to all those fans of Pacman all over the world.

It's a good catch for him especially if he gives Manny a good fight that fans enjoy, though we need to wait still for the final settlement and complete details about this fight.
It is a great opportunity for Mikey Garcia  to come out with a standout performance and impress the fans world over because if can give a tough fight for Manny Pacquiao even when he is in his last part of his career it will be a huge boost for his confidence moving forward and the money he will be earning will be pretty good.

Manny Pacquiao is the favorite in the fight but some are expecting an upset in this match up but i can only predict after the weigh ins and after watching some behind the scene shows to determine where to place the bets.
This is true, Manny despite his age is so good that even if a fighter cannot beat him as long as he gives a good fight at the end this becomes a boost for his career and he will gain recognition from the fans.

After all we know that any fight in which Manny is part of is going to be watched by a lot of fans and if they watch him giving a good fight this could be the beginning of better and more profitable fights coming his way, however this is not going to be easy because Many despite his age does not show signs that he wants to retire.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Rengga Jati on May 06, 2021, 10:48:56 PM
It is better to wait for the official announcement by the management team or the player itself or the committee.
So far, some tournaments are already held this year during the pandemic. There always been stated about the healthy protocol. But however, it is still risky.
Many considerations are going on before the big match between Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia. Moreover this is not a small match and many people are waiting for the match on DUbai


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: dunfida on May 06, 2021, 10:59:37 PM
Good to hear that, Garcia's camps will benefits with this fight, facing Manny bring his name to all those fans of Pacman all over the world.

It's a good catch for him especially if he gives Manny a good fight that fans enjoy, though we need to wait still for the final settlement and complete details about this fight.
It is a great opportunity for Mikey Garcia  to come out with a standout performance and impress the fans world over because if can give a tough fight for Manny Pacquiao even when he is in his last part of his career it will be a huge boost for his confidence moving forward and the money he will be earning will be pretty good.

Manny Pacquiao is the favorite in the fight but some are expecting an upset in this match up but i can only predict after the weigh ins and after watching some behind the scene shows to determine where to place the bets.
This is true, Manny despite his age is so good that even if a fighter cannot beat him as long as he gives a good fight at the end this becomes a boost for his career and he will gain recognition from the fans.

After all we know that any fight in which Manny is part of is going to be watched by a lot of fans and if they watch him giving a good fight this could be the beginning of better and more profitable fights coming his way, however this is not going to be easy because Many despite his age does not show signs that he wants to retire.
Why you people are really eager to see on when Pacquiao would retire? He's the only one could tell on when he should stop completely and focus out into his current work or situation.

You can really see the passion into his eyes towards boxing even though he had reached and get that record breaking weight division belts but still he's still pursuing on making some fights.

So its much better on not to mind nor stress yourself on thinking on when he would retire.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: TimeTeller on May 06, 2021, 11:15:13 PM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.

I don't think they are creating a hype at this point, i think they are just ironing some things before formally announcing the date and venue of the fight. Humors have it that once they will announce the date of the fight, Pacman will also announce his retirement.

The best month for this match is July, so there is still time for an eight weeks training for Manny.

This would be his last fight as he could no longer fight next year as it is the time for the Presidential election of the Philippines which Manny has plan on running for the highest office of the land.

I don't think this upcoming fight will be his last one.
Because if there are offers that are too good on the table, he may want to fight again.
He admitted that he really does love boxing, so I think, sometimes he is just fighting for the love of it and not really the money that he can get from it.
He knows his body more than anyone else, so retiring options will really be up to him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: ultrloa on May 06, 2021, 11:56:54 PM
July this year is still part of 2021, I thought he started training already, why would he spend effort for training if he is not preparing for a fight soon? I guess July this year is still possible though, Manny has announced he will fight early this year, so why would he do that if he aims to fight in the last quarter of this year?
At this point, I think that they are just creating a hype around this fight because they feel like there will be fewer audiences. I hope that they can finally decide about the when and where of this fight because a lot of Pacquiao fans are waiting and they only get agitated as time goes by and no concrete announcement is being made.

I don't think they are creating a hype at this point, i think they are just ironing some things before formally announcing the date and venue of the fight. Humors have it that once they will announce the date of the fight, Pacman will also announce his retirement.

The best month for this match is July, so there is still time for an eight weeks training for Manny.

This would be his last fight as he could no longer fight next year as it is the time for the Presidential election of the Philippines which Manny has plan on running for the highest office of the land.

I don't think this upcoming fight will be his last one.
Because if there are offers that are too good on the table, he may want to fight again.
He admitted that he really does love boxing, so I think, sometimes he is just fighting for the love of it and not really the money that he can get from it.
He knows his body more than anyone else, so retiring options will really be up to him.

Yeah this is not his last he needs money because he's so ambitious to run in higher office in politics so expect him to fight more, I don't know why Manny became greedy recently but let see how he will do his preparation in his upcoming fights will election is nearly coming in Philippines.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: aioc on May 07, 2021, 12:25:08 AM



I don't think this upcoming fight will be his last one.
Because if there are offers that are too good on the table, he may want to fight again.
He admitted that he really does love boxing, so I think, sometimes he is just fighting for the love of it and not really the money that he can get from it.
He knows his body more than anyone else, so retiring options will really be up to him.

Granting that if he wants to fight after he wins in the next election, he'll probably run as vice president, imagine a vice president of one country fighting in the ring, I don't think his constituents will want him to fight he is the second powerful man in the Philippines, even if he wants to, his position will not let him, he should choose between fighting and serving his country, you cannot serve two masters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Dave1 on May 07, 2021, 12:55:52 AM



I don't think this upcoming fight will be his last one.
Because if there are offers that are too good on the table, he may want to fight again.
He admitted that he really does love boxing, so I think, sometimes he is just fighting for the love of it and not really the money that he can get from it.
He knows his body more than anyone else, so retiring options will really be up to him.

Granting that if he wants to fight after he wins in the next election, he'll probably run as vice president, imagine a vice president of one country fighting in the ring, I don't think his constituents will want him to fight he is the second powerful man in the Philippines, even if he wants to, his position will not let him, he should choose between fighting and serving his country, you cannot serve two masters.

On the contrary, if he run for Vice-President, I think he will have less task than compare to a Senator. Philippine politics is different though, and I would say that a VP is not that powerful so say the least.

And Manny has been doing this for years, boxing and then politics, so I don't see any problem if he is ever to be elected as public official again, he can manage his time. And with that, I highly doubt that he will retire if even he win in the next election. But probably he will have his last fight, either Crawford or Spence.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Questat on May 07, 2021, 08:22:11 AM



I don't think this upcoming fight will be his last one.
Because if there are offers that are too good on the table, he may want to fight again.
He admitted that he really does love boxing, so I think, sometimes he is just fighting for the love of it and not really the money that he can get from it.
He knows his body more than anyone else, so retiring options will really be up to him.

Granting that if he wants to fight after he wins in the next election, he'll probably run as vice president, imagine a vice president of one country fighting in the ring, I don't think his constituents will want him to fight he is the second powerful man in the Philippines, even if he wants to, his position will not let him, he should choose between fighting and serving his country, you cannot serve two masters.

On the contrary, if he run for Vice-President, I think he will have less task than compare to a Senator. Philippine politics is different though, and I would say that a VP is not that powerful so say the least.

And Manny has been doing this for years, boxing and then politics, so I don't see any problem if he is ever to be elected as public official again, he can manage his time. And with that, I highly doubt that he will retire if even he win in the next election. But probably he will have his last fight, either Crawford or Spence.

Manny will use this good opportunity to run for president, he is still active in boxing, so his popularity is still here. he already stated that he will run for president, according to one of his interviews, he started boxing as 4 to 10 rounders and aim to be a world champion, the same principle is applied in politics, he also want to reach the top which is the presidency.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: ultrloa on May 07, 2021, 02:28:19 PM



I don't think this upcoming fight will be his last one.
Because if there are offers that are too good on the table, he may want to fight again.
He admitted that he really does love boxing, so I think, sometimes he is just fighting for the love of it and not really the money that he can get from it.
He knows his body more than anyone else, so retiring options will really be up to him.

Granting that if he wants to fight after he wins in the next election, he'll probably run as vice president, imagine a vice president of one country fighting in the ring, I don't think his constituents will want him to fight he is the second powerful man in the Philippines, even if he wants to, his position will not let him, he should choose between fighting and serving his country, you cannot serve two masters.

On the contrary, if he run for Vice-President, I think he will have less task than compare to a Senator. Philippine politics is different though, and I would say that a VP is not that powerful so say the least.

And Manny has been doing this for years, boxing and then politics, so I don't see any problem if he is ever to be elected as public official again, he can manage his time. And with that, I highly doubt that he will retire if even he win in the next election. But probably he will have his last fight, either Crawford or Spence.

There's a lot of difference between sitting on on senatorial set and presidential since in lower office he can leave and focus his fight he do this for so many times and he is the lowest among all senators on absences, While in presidency you will take all charge in every corner in his country so this plan is huge burden to him, I'm a fan od pacquaio but for stating his ambitioun I'm so dismay about what he think right now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kasabus on May 07, 2021, 09:36:29 PM
I'm a fan od pacquaio but for stating his ambitioun I'm so dismay about what he think right now.

We have the same take, politics is not for him, he only won because of his popularity but in terms of knowledge, for me, he is not yet qualified, he needs to learn more. What he promises is to destroy the corruption, I guess Presidency has more to tackle, not only that, and I am not confident in his capacity.

He said in an interview, if he is anointed by God, he will become the President, it could be true, but being a religious person and into politics handling the Philippines with different religions, I guess he might have a problem with how he will balance it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 07, 2021, 10:40:04 PM
I'm a fan od pacquaio but for stating his ambitioun I'm so dismay about what he think right now.

We have the same take, politics is not for him, he only won because of his popularity but in terms of knowledge, for me, he is not yet qualified, he needs to learn more. What he promises is to destroy the corruption, I guess Presidency has more to tackle, not only that, and I am not confident in his capacity.

He said in an interview, if he is anointed by God, he will become the President, it could be true, but being a religious person and into politics handling the Philippines with different religions, I guess he might have a problem with how he will balance it.

i dont think you know better pacquiao. afaik, he graduated with bachelor's degree in polsci and other short term courses. though it comes late in his life to get proper education, at least he found the time to improve that aspect in his life. now, when it comes to leadership, it depends on the will of the person. most highly educated leaders can't even make a dent in history. so what am trying to convey here is, every person has their chance to realize their goals in life. now it is up to him how he will put that into action.
now going back to the fight, curious what odds will the bookies give to this fight? but pacquiao will be the favourite here


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 08, 2021, 02:37:16 AM
I'm a fan od pacquaio but for stating his ambitioun I'm so dismay about what he think right now.

We have the same take, politics is not for him, he only won because of his popularity but in terms of knowledge, for me, he is not yet qualified, he needs to learn more. What he promises is to destroy the corruption, I guess Presidency has more to tackle, not only that, and I am not confident in his capacity.

He said in an interview, if he is anointed by God, he will become the President, it could be true, but being a religious person and into politics handling the Philippines with different religions, I guess he might have a problem with how he will balance it.

I like Pacman, however, being a religious person and being in politics in the same time is a clue that someone is a trickster. You reckon he is a clean politician?

I any case, Mikey Garcia is the perfect opponent for Pacman in his older age. They are both the same size and Mikey is not on a similar level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Dave1 on May 08, 2021, 03:28:06 AM
I'm a fan od pacquaio but for stating his ambitioun I'm so dismay about what he think right now.

We have the same take, politics is not for him, he only won because of his popularity but in terms of knowledge, for me, he is not yet qualified, he needs to learn more. What he promises is to destroy the corruption, I guess Presidency has more to tackle, not only that, and I am not confident in his capacity.

He said in an interview, if he is anointed by God, he will become the President, it could be true, but being a religious person and into politics handling the Philippines with different religions, I guess he might have a problem with how he will balance it.

I like Pacman, however, being a religious person and being in politics in the same time is a clue that someone is a trickster. You reckon he is a clean politician?

I any case, Mikey Garcia is the perfect opponent for Pacman in his older age. They are both the same size and Mikey is not on a similar level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford.

This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 08, 2021, 03:56:18 AM
@Dave1. Agreed. Pacman earned $10 million in his fight versus Keith Thruman. This fight will certainly be another easily earned $10 million or more for Pacman. Mikey Garcia is a bigger boxing star than Thurman, I reckon.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 08, 2021, 03:59:59 AM
This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.

Terrence Crawford was ready for the fight. But Pacquaio asked for an unreasonably high purse ($40 million instead of $10 million that was offered), and therefore the fight had to be called off. Pacquaio is no longer in his prime and the pandemic has impacted global economies in a negative way. At this point, asking for huge amounts as purse is not going to work. I am afraid that the same issue will persist during the negotiations for this fight as well. Mikey has already stated that he is interested in fighting Pacquaio. Now the main question is about the latter's availability.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on May 08, 2021, 04:35:44 AM
This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.

You nailed it mate  :).

This is some sort of cherry picking for Pacman but at this stage of his career, i think he deserve the luxury of choosing whom he wants to fight.

Though Crawford seems to lack the experience back he is definitely above Mikey Garcia in terms of talent and this is the main reason why Team Pacquiao chooses Mikey Garcia as he is more beatable than Crawford or Spence. He don't have to be at his best in fighting Mikey Garcia and still win the fight.

Meanwhile, it seems that the announcement could be made next week as another person close to Pacman himself have revealed something to the media.

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Philippine boxing great Manny Pacquiao is in the "final stages" of talks for a bout against American star Mikey Garcia, an aide to the Filipino fighter said Thursday.

The date and venue for a Pacquiao-Garcia match-up could be announced as early as next week, Jayke Joson, special assistant to the former eight-weight world champion, told AFP.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on May 08, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.

Terrence Crawford was ready for the fight. But Pacquaio asked for an unreasonably high purse ($40 million instead of $10 million that was offered), and therefore the fight had to be called off. Pacquaio is no longer in his prime and the pandemic has impacted global economies in a negative way. At this point, asking for huge amounts as purse is not going to work. I am afraid that the same issue will persist during the negotiations for this fight as well. Mikey has already stated that he is interested in fighting Pacquaio. Now the main question is about the latter's availability.

I think Pacquiao has every right to ask for the a high purse, after all he is also a champion and I would say that still a cow cash at this stage of his career, it could be bluff or something, but still he is not overpricing himself. Yes, I agree that the pandemic has really affected sporting events, but I think many are still interested to watch him fight.

Let's wait for the official announcement, I believed this is a done deal already, (his fight with Mikey).


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: btc78 on May 08, 2021, 10:03:25 AM
This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.

Terrence Crawford was ready for the fight. But Pacquaio asked for an unreasonably high purse ($40 million instead of $10 million that was offered), and therefore the fight had to be called off. Pacquaio is no longer in his prime and the pandemic has impacted global economies in a negative way. At this point, asking for huge amounts as purse is not going to work. I am afraid that the same issue will persist during the negotiations for this fight as well. Mikey has already stated that he is interested in fighting Pacquaio. Now the main question is about the latter's availability.
How come that it is Unreasonably ? and since when that Manny Pacquiao becomes not on His prime? are you out of the News? Manny is still one of the most awaited Boxer these days , His Fight is still looking forward from boxing community so Don't say that he had already lost His prime because He is still the Hottest boxer and People are still waiting for His Final Fight before retirement that's why all His fight are being looking forward because of of those might be His last.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: freedomgo on May 08, 2021, 11:56:36 AM
This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.

Terrence Crawford was ready for the fight. But Pacquaio asked for an unreasonably high purse ($40 million instead of $10 million that was offered), and therefore the fight had to be called off. Pacquaio is no longer in his prime and the pandemic has impacted global economies in a negative way. At this point, asking for huge amounts as purse is not going to work. I am afraid that the same issue will persist during the negotiations for this fight as well. Mikey has already stated that he is interested in fighting Pacquaio. Now the main question is about the latter's availability.
How come that it is Unreasonably ? and since when that Manny Pacquiao becomes not on His prime? are you out of the News? Manny is still one of the most awaited Boxer these days , His Fight is still looking forward from boxing community so Don't say that he had already lost His prime because He is still the Hottest boxer and People are still waiting for His Final Fight before retirement that's why all His fight are being looking forward because of of those might be His last.
I agree with that, beating Thurman was a big statement that tells people Manny does not get old, he beat young champions which are on the level of Crawford and Spence Jr., so he can fight any of these two and win. The era of Spence and Crawford now is not so exciting compared to the time when Manny was still younger since we can find real warriors during his time.

IMO, the real warriors in boxing are Filipinos and Mexicans, they don't duck anyone, they fight and give their best to entertain the crowd.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Oasisman on May 08, 2021, 01:53:07 PM
This is the main reason why they probably pick Mikey as second option if the Terrence Crawford fight didn't materialized. Mikey is not a true welterweight and they have the same size so every advantage is on Pacman in this fight.

Although Pacquiao has slowed down as evident in the Thurman fight, but he can still throw some punches that will give him enough points to the eyes of the judges if the fight goes to distance.

You nailed it mate  :).

This is some sort of cherry picking for Pacman but at this stage of his career, i think he deserve the luxury of choosing whom he wants to fight.

Though Crawford seems to lack the experience back he is definitely above Mikey Garcia in terms of talent and this is the main reason why Team Pacquiao chooses Mikey Garcia as he is more beatable than Crawford or Spence. He don't have to be at his best in fighting Mikey Garcia and still win the fight.

Meanwhile, it seems that the announcement could be made next week as another person close to Pacman himself have revealed something to the media.

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Philippine boxing great Manny Pacquiao is in the "final stages" of talks for a bout against American star Mikey Garcia, an aide to the Filipino fighter said Thursday.

The date and venue for a Pacquiao-Garcia match-up could be announced as early as next week, Jayke Joson, special assistant to the former eight-weight world champion, told AFP.

Well, some cherry picking, but yeah Pacquiao deserves the luxury on choosing who's he's fighting. Besides, It's a smart move for him to still earn even past his prime.
Crawford and Spenc might be too much for Pacquiao but I think he still has more than enough chance to beat these boxing superstars.
But the again, Pacquiao's ageing It would be bad for him to fight against these fighters who's still in their prime.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: mirakal on May 08, 2021, 09:57:33 PM
Crawford and Spence might be too much for Pacquiao but I think he still has more than enough chance to beat these boxing superstars.
Pacquiao is a champion, both spence and Crawford are champions, where's the difference here? maybe the age only...
Honestly, even Pacquiao is old now, I would still back him to win against any of these boxers.

But the again, Pacquiao's aging It would be bad for him to fight against these fighters who's still in their prime.
I heard that before, people say it's a bad idea to fight a young and big Thurman, but what's the outcome?
We can never underestimate the champ, let us not be concern of his health as he knows what the is doing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: smyslov on May 08, 2021, 11:19:52 PM


Well, some cherry picking, but yeah Pacquiao deserves the luxury on choosing who's he's fighting. Besides, It's a smart move for him to still earn even past his prime.
Crawford and Spenc might be too much for Pacquiao but I think he still has more than enough chance to beat these boxing superstars.
But the again, Pacquiao's ageing It would be bad for him to fight against these fighters who's still in their prime.

The way Manny boxed the last time he looks like he is still in his prime, but yeah he has the luxury to pick who will he face, he is staking a lot for every fight, he is legendary and the only 8 division world champion, something that every boxer would like to face and beat, everybody wants Manny Pacquiao, but you have to earn it before he gives you a chance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: stadus on May 09, 2021, 12:13:32 PM


Well, some cherry picking, but yeah Pacquiao deserves the luxury on choosing who's he's fighting. Besides, It's a smart move for him to still earn even past his prime.
Crawford and Spenc might be too much for Pacquiao but I think he still has more than enough chance to beat these boxing superstars.
But the again, Pacquiao's ageing It would be bad for him to fight against these fighters who's still in their prime.

The way Manny boxed the last time he looks like he is still in his prime, but yeah he has the luxury to pick who will he face, he is staking a lot for every fight, he is legendary and the only 8 division world champion, something that every boxer would like to face and beat, everybody wants Manny Pacquiao, but you have to earn it before he gives you a chance.

Definitely, and at the stage of Manny's career now, he will mostly fight a boxer that would earn him a title and money as well, that's why he chooses Spence but it did not happen for some reason. Now, he is taking Mikey Garcia which cis also a decent fighter but not really the best, hence, we might still see more fights of Manny after this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: arwin100 on May 09, 2021, 01:02:48 PM


Well, some cherry picking, but yeah Pacquiao deserves the luxury on choosing who's he's fighting. Besides, It's a smart move for him to still earn even past his prime.
Crawford and Spenc might be too much for Pacquiao but I think he still has more than enough chance to beat these boxing superstars.
But the again, Pacquiao's ageing It would be bad for him to fight against these fighters who's still in their prime.

The way Manny boxed the last time he looks like he is still in his prime, but yeah he has the luxury to pick who will he face, he is staking a lot for every fight, he is legendary and the only 8 division world champion, something that every boxer would like to face and beat, everybody wants Manny Pacquiao, but you have to earn it before he gives you a chance.

Definitely, and at the stage of Manny's career now, he will mostly fight a boxer that would earn him a title and money as well, that's why he chooses Spence but it did not happen for some reason. Now, he is taking Mikey Garcia which cis also a decent fighter but not really the best, hence, we might still see more fights of Manny after this fight.

In my insights Manny will fight any fighter if there's a good $ that he can possibly take home, election near to happen in Philippines so he might need big funds to help in his campaign. But I'm worried about his total preparedness on his fight if this one will proceed since election day is busy day for politicians and he might miss to condition his body to prepare on his upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on May 09, 2021, 01:17:08 PM
In my insights Manny will fight any fighter if there's a good $ that he can possibly take home, election near to happen in Philippines so he might need big funds to help in his campaign. But I'm worried about his total preparedness on his fight if this one will proceed since election day is busy day for politicians and he might miss to condition his body to prepare on his upcoming fight.

We all know that Manny Pacquiao is a boxer more than a politician. If there is an incoming fight, he will surely be happy to focus on it 100% even if he is in the middle of his responsibilities as a politician or in the middle of the campaign.

I don't think Manny Pacquiao will fight any fighter. That is not the case anymore at the legend's current age. That is applicable during his peak but not now. It is very obvious the Pacquiao team will choose an easier opponent now that Manny is already slowing down.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: TimeTeller on May 09, 2021, 11:04:24 PM
In my insights Manny will fight any fighter if there's a good $ that he can possibly take home, election near to happen in Philippines so he might need big funds to help in his campaign. But I'm worried about his total preparedness on his fight if this one will proceed since election day is busy day for politicians and he might miss to condition his body to prepare on his upcoming fight.

We all know that Manny Pacquiao is a boxer more than a politician. If there is an incoming fight, he will surely be happy to focus on it 100% even if he is in the middle of his responsibilities as a politician or in the middle of the campaign.

I don't think Manny Pacquiao will fight any fighter. That is not the case anymore at the legend's current age. That is applicable during his peak but not now. It is very obvious the Pacquiao team will choose an easier opponent now that Manny is already slowing down.

I agree with you here. Also, with his status, he can choose who he wants to fight with.
It is not all about the money I believe, though of course it is still their camp's consideration.
But it is not the case that he will fight any fighter just for the sake of money.
He is pretty much settled for his retirement, the upcoming fights are just bonus for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on May 10, 2021, 03:02:29 AM
In my insights Manny will fight any fighter if there's a good $ that he can possibly take home, election near to happen in Philippines so he might need big funds to help in his campaign. But I'm worried about his total preparedness on his fight if this one will proceed since election day is busy day for politicians and he might miss to condition his body to prepare on his upcoming fight.

We all know that Manny Pacquiao is a boxer more than a politician. If there is an incoming fight, he will surely be happy to focus on it 100% even if he is in the middle of his responsibilities as a politician or in the middle of the campaign.

I don't think Manny Pacquiao will fight any fighter. That is not the case anymore at the legend's current age. That is applicable during his peak but not now. It is very obvious the Pacquiao team will choose an easier opponent now that Manny is already slowing down.

I agree with you here. Also, with his status, he can choose who he wants to fight with.
It is not all about the money I believe, though of course it is still their camp's consideration.
But it is not the case that he will fight any fighter just for the sake of money.
He is pretty much settled for his retirement, the upcoming fights are just bonus for him.

Manny is the legend so everybody's expected to call him out. Fighting against him means a lot especially to younger fighters. Facing Manny Pacquiao is about fame, building up your boxing resume, money, honor, etc. Being in this situation, Manny is privileged to choose whoever he feels like fighting.

Unlike the younger days of Manny when he was still chasing money more than any other, right now it is probably just a balanced approach. It is more of money and safety and the prospect of facing a weaker opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 10, 2021, 12:59:47 PM
Unlike the younger days of Manny when he was still chasing money more than any other, right now it is probably just a balanced approach. It is more of money and safety and the prospect of facing a weaker opponent.

Safety seems not on his vocabulary because he is willing to fight any fighter, in fact, he challenged one of the best which is Crawford but his challenge was not accepted. Maybe these young champions are thinking of their safety as although Pacquiao is old but is only old on age or number.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on May 10, 2021, 02:08:34 PM
Unlike the younger days of Manny when he was still chasing money more than any other, right now it is probably just a balanced approach. It is more of money and safety and the prospect of facing a weaker opponent.

Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: freedomgo on May 10, 2021, 09:01:46 PM
Unlike the younger days of Manny when he was still chasing money more than any other, right now it is probably just a balanced approach. It is more of money and safety and the prospect of facing a weaker opponent.

Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 

I believe he is already rich, but I doubt that statement that he doesn't need money anymore. it's natural for some that they will not be contented, he will always aim for bigger money as he has a lot of ambition in life, to be a president, he needs to be financially stable and free in order to fund his campaign and I guess he is really busy with that, and he tried to build a legacy not only in boxing but in politics as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: ene1980 on May 10, 2021, 11:40:11 PM
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Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 
Do you think that Manny Pacquiao is still fighting to boost his political career, i seriously doubt that, he is already famous and made the money but i do not think he is a billionaire as Floyd is the highest earned boxer and even he never made a billion dollars. The fact is that he is still an elite level fighter and he knows that it is a small window of opportunity where he can perform at that level and as long as he can perform let him do what he likes.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: TravelMug on May 11, 2021, 12:53:04 AM
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Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 
Do you think that Manny Pacquiao is still fighting to boost his political career, i seriously doubt that, he is already famous and made the money but i do not think he is a billionaire as Floyd is the highest earned boxer and even he never made a billion dollars. The fact is that he is still an elite level fighter and he knows that it is a small window of opportunity where he can perform at that level and as long as he can perform let him do what he likes.

Not to boost, but probably wanted to remain relevant as we all know that he got his exposure in boxing first before taking on his political ambitions. So it's a win-win for him if he keeps on fighting, he will be talk not just in the Philippines but globally, and then he was to earn huge amount.

Of course, he is not close as compare to Floyd's boxing earning. Manny has Bob Arum in the first part of his career, so there is a cut and then we should understand that he is a non US boxer. But in his country, he is one of the riches person because of boxing.

Anyhow, it's really hard not to discuss Manny's political ambition or career here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on May 11, 2021, 02:05:20 AM
Unlike the younger days of Manny when he was still chasing money more than any other, right now it is probably just a balanced approach. It is more of money and safety and the prospect of facing a weaker opponent.

Safety seems not on his vocabulary because he is willing to fight any fighter, in fact, he challenged one of the best which is Crawford but his challenge was not accepted. Maybe these young champions are thinking of their safety as although Pacquiao is old but is only old on age or number.

"Age is just a number" may be true if you are a teacher but not if you are a boxer. Pacquiao and his team are looking for a good fighter, popular for the sake of money, and is somehow easier to take.

Both Manny and Crawford teams are saying the same thing about the other avoiding the other.

Unlike the younger days of Manny when he was still chasing money more than any other, right now it is probably just a balanced approach. It is more of money and safety and the prospect of facing a weaker opponent.

Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 

That may be true. I heard of Pacquiao's intention to become president. He needs to relive his legacy among the citizens of his country if he wants to keep that boxing fame retained in the minds of the people. This is probably the reason why he has to climb the ring every now and then. We don't know.

As to money, it is normal for any wealthy person to need and want more of it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: bisdak40 on May 11, 2021, 11:52:07 AM
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Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 
Do you think that Manny Pacquiao is still fighting to boost his political career, i seriously doubt that, he is already famous and made the money but i do not think he is a billionaire as Floyd is the highest earned boxer and even he never made a billion dollars. The fact is that he is still an elite level fighter and he knows that it is a small window of opportunity where he can perform at that level and as long as he can perform let him do what he likes.

Manny Pacquaio is a billionaire if we convert his earnings in Philippine peso and though Floyd Mayweather earned more than Manny but still the latter is above in terms of purchasing power as Manny spend his fortune in his home soil which is much cheaper than in the US. If Manny doesn't fight anymore, he can sustain his style of living while Floyd can't.

If you gonna dig deeper on why Manny still fights, it's not the passion and the money anymore. He fights to attract attention and to be still relevant in Philippine politics as he don't need to pay TV stations to have an air time. I'm a fan of Manny the boxer but if he insist on running for the Presidency, he can't have my vote.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Distinctin on May 11, 2021, 11:59:00 AM
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Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 
Do you think that Manny Pacquiao is still fighting to boost his political career, i seriously doubt that, he is already famous and made the money but i do not think he is a billionaire as Floyd is the highest earned boxer and even he never made a billion dollars. The fact is that he is still an elite level fighter and he knows that it is a small window of opportunity where he can perform at that level and as long as he can perform let him do what he likes.

Manny Pacquaio is a billionaire if we convert his earnings in Philippine peso and though Floyd Mayweather earned more than Manny but still the latter is above in terms of purchasing power as Manny spend his fortune in his home soil which is much cheaper than in the US. If Manny doesn't fight anymore, he can sustain his style of living while Floyd can't.

If you gonna dig deeper on why Manny still fights, it's not the passion and the money anymore. He fights to attract attention and to be still relevant in Philippine politics as he don't need to pay TV stations to have an air time. I'm a fan of Manny the boxer but if he insist on running for the Presidency, he can't have my vote.

Very well said but actually, I still believe he fights for money... If he wants attention, then can fight an MMA fighter like Mcgregor but that didn't happen. Anyway, for me, I can't say enough, this is just my opinion though, but I would say that I'm happy to see him fight and I always back him to win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kemarit on May 12, 2021, 01:55:02 AM
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Manny don't need money from boxing as he is a billionaire in the Philippines right now. Manny is a guy who like to face the camera and have that fame because of his political ambition in our country. Rumors have it that he just to fight to keep his popularity afloat because if he will no longer fighter people might not vote for him anymore and that b___s thinking as far as i'm concern. 
Do you think that Manny Pacquiao is still fighting to boost his political career, i seriously doubt that, he is already famous and made the money but i do not think he is a billionaire as Floyd is the highest earned boxer and even he never made a billion dollars. The fact is that he is still an elite level fighter and he knows that it is a small window of opportunity where he can perform at that level and as long as he can perform let him do what he likes.

Manny Pacquaio is a billionaire if we convert his earnings in Philippine peso and though Floyd Mayweather earned more than Manny but still the latter is above in terms of purchasing power as Manny spend his fortune in his home soil which is much cheaper than in the US. If Manny doesn't fight anymore, he can sustain his style of living while Floyd can't.

If you gonna dig deeper on why Manny still fights, it's not the passion and the money anymore. He fights to attract attention and to be still relevant in Philippine politics as he don't need to pay TV stations to have an air time. I'm a fan of Manny the boxer but if he insist on running for the Presidency, he can't have my vote.

Very well said but actually, I still believe he fights for money... If he wants attention, then can fight an MMA fighter like Mcgregor but that didn't happen. Anyway, for me, I can't say enough, this is just my opinion though, but I would say that I'm happy to see him fight and I always back him to win.

Of course, it is still after the money though, remember that they have a good lifestyle in the Philippines, his wife Jinky is a A-lister and then their families and friends. Yes, Manny has a lot of investments, but with just one fight, he will get a lot of money so he needs to save before he retires and then embark on his career as a politician.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 12, 2021, 02:52:41 AM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 12, 2021, 04:01:10 AM
Of course, it is still after the money though, remember that they have a good lifestyle in the Philippines, his wife Jinky is a A-lister and then their families and friends. Yes, Manny has a lot of investments, but with just one fight, he will get a lot of money so he needs to save before he retires and then embark on his career as a politician.

No amount of money is going to be enough, as per the human psychology. And there is a lot of difference between $10 million (which was offered to Pacquiao for his proposed fight against Terence Crawford) and $100 million (which he received during his fight against Floyd Mayweather in 2015). And for someone who is worth around $250 million, these amounts are going to be significant. Because there won't be any significant earnings, once he retires from the boxing scene.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Dave1 on May 12, 2021, 05:42:53 AM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.

I also tried to search for local Philippine news if there's some kind of update regarding this fight.

Unfortunately, it's very quiet, I don't know if this is an indication that the fight has been sealed already and just waiting for the right time to announce it, or this fight is not going to happen.

If the fight continues, then Pacquiao needed at least 8 weeks of training to get back in shape.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: samcrypto on May 12, 2021, 06:01:19 AM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
They are still finalizing the deal for sure and this might be the last fight of Pacquiao especially if he won on the upcoming elections in the Philippines where many says that Pacquiao will run for president, this fight can help the exposure of Manny in the public so I think they will push this one. Let's wait for the final announcement and i also believe the inactivity of Manny is not good considering his age as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: goaldigger on May 12, 2021, 06:55:15 AM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
They are still finalizing the deal for sure and this might be the last fight of Pacquiao especially if he won on the upcoming elections in the Philippines where many says that Pacquiao will run for president, this fight can help the exposure of Manny in the public so I think they will push this one. Let's wait for the final announcement and i also believe the inactivity of Manny is not good considering his age as well.
That could be an issue here, that's why they are still finalizing the match since I still didn't see any news with regards to this match. Few more weeks left for them to train and I don't think its not enough for both Boxer to prepare, I want to see Manny on the boxing ring again before he retires, hopefully he will not run for president next year, I still want him to see fighting and for me, he's fine on the Senate level.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Obito on May 12, 2021, 08:58:11 AM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
I don't get Pacquiao though, he should've retired after his defeat against Marquez but he is still pushing on, I admire that he did fight still but there should be a limit and he should retire with his last fight already a win. By the way, I think training camps don't work like that, I think that there should be an announcement of the fight first before doing training.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on May 12, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
I don't get Pacquiao though, he should've retired after his defeat against Marquez but he is still pushing on, I admire that he did fight still but there should be a limit and he should retire with his last fight already a win. By the way, I think training camps don't work like that, I think that there should be an announcement of the fight first before doing training.
Lol, he did keep fighting after the Marquez fight, he won belt again in the 147 lbs. Marquez doesn't want to have a rematch so he keeps on moving with his boxing career. So we can't tell him to quit or retire because Pacquiao still has it although he might have lost some speed. Yes, maybe they are just doing some light training, but after the announcement, it should be full blown hard core training again for Manny to keep him in tight shape for this bout, that is, if the fight is going to happen in the next two months.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Obito on May 12, 2021, 09:59:08 AM
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Lol, he did keep fighting after the Marquez fight, he won belt again in the 147 lbs. Marquez doesn't want to have a rematch so he keeps on moving with his boxing career. So we can't tell him to quit or retire because Pacquiao still has it although he might have lost some speed.
Man I do hope he considers retirement, he has a lot of things on his hands right now and i f I was in that position, I would probably be drained out with all the things that I want to do. If he lost his speed then Pacquiao doesn't have it in him anymore, this is an old tiger, dangerous but not that intimidating.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: acroman08 on May 12, 2021, 12:11:42 PM
Man I do hope he considers retirement, he has a lot of things on his hands right now and i f I was in that position, I would probably be drained out with all the things that I want to do. If he lost his speed then Pacquiao doesn't have it in him anymore, this is an old tiger, dangerous but not that intimidating.
as far as I know, he already talks about his plan for retirement in the near future(maybe after the second fight this year since he plans to fight twice in 2021). I guess we can expect his announcement for retirement in the end of the year or in the early months of 2022.

anyway, I suggest fixing the quoting on your post.

edit: here, I found this article mentioning his plan for retirement https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/other-sport/manny-pacquiao-reveals-he-is-in-talks-to-fight-again-and-then-announce-retirement-plans-1.1216325


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: arwin100 on May 12, 2021, 12:46:30 PM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
I don't get Pacquiao though, he should've retired after his defeat against Marquez but he is still pushing on, I admire that he did fight still but there should be a limit and he should retire with his last fight already a win. By the way, I think training camps don't work like that, I think that there should be an announcement of the fight first before doing training.

Manny seems became greedy for money as he have an ambition to became a higher official in Philippines, maybe thats the reason why he didn't left boxing yet since he needs money for running his wants. For me he really needs to retire since he already got a name on this industry and if he's unlucky to get a career ending disease brought by receiving a heavy punch for sure he will regret why he didn't retire while his body still in shape.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Russlenat on May 12, 2021, 02:08:04 PM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
I don't get Pacquiao though, he should've retired after his defeat against Marquez but he is still pushing on, I admire that he did fight still but there should be a limit and he should retire with his last fight already a win. By the way, I think training camps don't work like that, I think that there should be an announcement of the fight first before doing training.

Manny seems became greedy for money as he have an ambition to became a higher official in Philippines, maybe thats the reason why he didn't left boxing yet since he needs money for running his wants. For me he really needs to retire since he already got a name on this industry and if he's unlucky to get a career ending disease brought by receiving a heavy punch for sure he will regret why he didn't retire while his body still in shape.

Manny has been in the business for more than a decade, and he is not only a fighter now, he is also a promoter who already knows how to run the business. I'm sure he has a backup plan and he can still get a fight this year.

For me, Manny is not greedy, he just wants to fight and the majority of the fans would want to see him fighting.
Retirement is only good if you have nothing to give, but the last fight of Manny prove that he still has a lot to give in boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: ReiMomo on May 12, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
I guess the reason why funding did not push through is that the fight is somehow not that hype. Investors do have the advice of sports analysts with them. Crawford and Pacquiao’s if matched is not thrilling enough for the investors to earn from their shares.

So I guess, they aren’t interested in the match and I think it would push through if Pacman’s opponent is changed to a legendary one too.

But in my own opinion, investors are eye-ing for the rematch of Pacman and Mayweather as we all know that second match would be the largest paid pay-per-view match in the history just in case. All of it because people wanted Pacman to know down Mayweather.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: wxa7115 on May 12, 2021, 06:47:09 PM
Why you people are really eager to see on when Pacquiao would retire? He's the only one could tell on when he should stop completely and focus out into his current work or situation.

You can really see the passion into his eyes towards boxing even though he had reached and get that record breaking weight division belts but still he's still pursuing on making some fights.

So its much better on not to mind nor stress yourself on thinking on when he would retire.
It is not that I want Manny to retire, if it was up to me Manny would fight forever but we need to be realistic here, each year that passes he is losing some of his abilities and boxing is a sport that is unforgiving.

In other sports if you happen to retire too late at worst the person will just look way past their prime, but in the case of boxing all what is need is one punch for the life of the fighter to change forever and that is not a fate that I wish for Manny.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 12, 2021, 06:49:01 PM
There is a new interview with Mikey Garcia. He stated that there have been conversations with Pacquiao's representatives but he is not getting his hopes up that they will get a deal done soon. He is already starting to look for other options. It sounds like Pacquiao is asking for too much money and that is the reason why they haven't been able to reach a deal.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/05/12/exclusive-mikey-garcia-manny-pacquiao/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fatunad on May 12, 2021, 06:53:12 PM
A fight against Mikey Garcia should not be too hard to make but we have yet to hear anything official. If this fight was happening in July then this would be around the time they would start their training camps. The inactivity can't be good for Pacquiao and the longer he remains out of the ring the better it would be to just remain retired.
I don't get Pacquiao though, he should've retired after his defeat against Marquez but he is still pushing on, I admire that he did fight still but there should be a limit and he should retire with his last fight already a win. By the way, I think training camps don't work like that, I think that there should be an announcement of the fight first before doing training.

Manny seems became greedy for money as he have an ambition to became a higher official in Philippines, maybe thats the reason why he didn't left boxing yet since he needs money for running his wants. For me he really needs to retire since he already got a name on this industry and if he's unlucky to get a career ending disease brought by receiving a heavy punch for sure he will regret why he didn't retire while his body still in shape.

Manny has been in the business for more than a decade, and he is not only a fighter now, he is also a promoter who already knows how to run the business. I'm sure he has a backup plan and he can still get a fight this year.

For me, Manny is not greedy, he just wants to fight and the majority of the fans would want to see him fighting.
Retirement is only good if you have nothing to give, but the last fight of Manny prove that he still has a lot to give in boxing.
You can really see that he wont really be minding much about the money that he can possibly earn but rather he do aim for the glory that he would get on very fight that he would need to take
on and its true that he had lots of things getting involvement now not only limited to boxing when it comes or in talks of source of income so i dont really see for this to be a greedy move
but rather he just showing off some passion or the love he does have in the sports of boxing.Dont know on why people do keep talking about retirement
because he's the only one would gonna tell on when he would stop.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Fredomago on May 12, 2021, 07:21:29 PM
I guess the reason why funding did not push through is that the fight is somehow not that hype. Investors do have the advice of sports analysts with them. Crawford and Pacquiao’s if matched is not thrilling enough for the investors to earn from their shares.

So I guess, they aren’t interested in the match and I think it would push through if Pacman’s opponent is changed to a legendary one too.

But in my own opinion, investors are eye-ing for the rematch of Pacman and Mayweather as we all know that second match would be the largest paid pay-per-view match in the history just in case. All of it because people wanted Pacman to know down Mayweather.

Investment wise, indeed even this two figthers are already past from their primes but the rematch would bring interest to viewers who love seing this two inside the ring again.

I agree that investors are still trying to work this things out to rinse more money than to any match up that they'll going to arrange.

The potential profits still high since there are still PPV and the gambling industry that also sources of potential profits.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Dave1 on May 16, 2021, 02:18:47 AM
There is a new interview with Mikey Garcia. He stated that there have been conversations with Pacquiao's representatives but he is not getting his hopes up that they will get a deal done soon. He is already starting to look for other options. It sounds like Pacquiao is asking for too much money and that is the reason why they haven't been able to reach a deal.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/05/12/exclusive-mikey-garcia-manny-pacquiao/

Ok, so it seems Mikey is not lock in to fight Manny Pacquiao. I thought that this is a sure fight already, but since we are already half in May and if there target is really July then there's not much time to prepare isn't it?

So Mikey has every right to look for the next best fight for him and move forward. Manny could have been really busy with his work as Philippine official and or may have other task at hand that is very important to him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 16, 2021, 04:52:21 AM
There is a new interview with Mikey Garcia. He stated that there have been conversations with Pacquiao's representatives but he is not getting his hopes up that they will get a deal done soon. He is already starting to look for other options. It sounds like Pacquiao is asking for too much money and that is the reason why they haven't been able to reach a deal.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/05/12/exclusive-mikey-garcia-manny-pacquiao/

To be honest, I am not surprised. The same happened with the proposed fight against Terence Crawford as well, if you guys remember. I don't have exact information on how much Pacquiao is demanding for the fight against Garcia. For the match against Crawford, he was demanding $40 million, when the organizers were ready to pay him $10 million as guaranteed purse. He needs to understand that circumstances are not that good. The fight can't happen in Las Vegas, and the gate collection will be low, as a result of the ongoing pandemic situation. I don't think that Pacquiao will fight anyone this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Russlenat on May 16, 2021, 05:35:57 AM
There is a new interview with Mikey Garcia. He stated that there have been conversations with Pacquiao's representatives but he is not getting his hopes up that they will get a deal done soon. He is already starting to look for other options. It sounds like Pacquiao is asking for too much money and that is the reason why they haven't been able to reach a deal.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/05/12/exclusive-mikey-garcia-manny-pacquiao/

To be honest, I am not surprised. The same happened with the proposed fight against Terence Crawford as well, if you guys remember. I don't have exact information on how much Pacquiao is demanding for the fight against Garcia. For the match against Crawford, he was demanding $40 million, when the organizers were ready to pay him $10 million as guaranteed purse. He needs to understand that circumstances are not that good. The fight can't happen in Las Vegas, and the gate collection will be low, as a result of the ongoing pandemic situation. I don't think that Pacquiao will fight anyone this year.

It's expected that Manny will ask for big money as he is a star in boxing, he can attract a lot of fans to watch them live and pay the PPV subscription. We don't know what's happening inside, but let's hear the statement of both parties before we conclude, I'm still optimistic though that the fight will happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: qwertyup23 on May 16, 2021, 05:53:06 AM
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Very interesting.

I was really hoping for his fight against Terrence Crawford but then again, no official statement or agreement was made. In this fight, I do hope to see the same energy, tenaciousness, and aggressiveness of Pacquiao against Mikey Garcia.

According to boxrec, this is the current stats of Mikey Garcia:

https://i.postimg.cc/q7zJjWxv/Screen-Shot-2021-05-16-at-1-50-18-PM.png

He is indeed younger than Manny around 9 years but both of them started their boxing careers early. I did watch the fights of Mikey Garcia before and I think this is a safe fight for the two fighters, considering that they are veterans of the ring. This is actually a smart decision in order to increase their investments and winnings.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: freedomgo on May 16, 2021, 06:09:09 AM
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Very interesting.

I was really hoping for his fight against Terrence Crawford but then again, no official statement or agreement was made. In this fight, I do hope to see the same energy, tenaciousness, and aggressiveness of Pacquiao against Mikey Garcia.

According to boxrec, this is the current stats of Mikey Garcia:

https://i.postimg.cc/q7zJjWxv/Screen-Shot-2021-05-16-at-1-50-18-PM.png

He is indeed younger than Manny around 9 years but both of them started their boxing careers early. I did watch the fights of Mikey Garcia before and I think this is a safe fight for the two fighters, considering that they are veterans of the ring. This is actually a smart decision in order to increase their investments and winnings.

Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: lienfaye on May 16, 2021, 07:07:45 AM
Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.
Its not finalized yet and still under negotiation so I think it is uncertain if this fight will happen this year. I read in an article that they were supposed to fight last year but didnt happen due to pandemic so I guess if the negotiation turn out well, this fight might be push through. Its been almost 2 years since the last fight of Manny, many fans are waiting for his next fight but it takes too long. He is no longer young compared to other boxers now but I think age is just a number for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: pilosopotasyo on May 16, 2021, 08:42:50 AM


Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.

Ryan Garcia is undefeated and so is Crawford and they are more than willing to fight Manny, it's not about the record it's more about the legacy, imagine being one of the guys who beat Manny and get him into retirement, Mikey is a perfect opponent for Pacquiao, I'm just afraid that he will imitate Marquez counter-punching style to beat Manny but let's see.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Russlenat on May 16, 2021, 09:37:32 AM


Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.

Ryan Garcia is undefeated and so is Crawford and they are more than willing to fight Manny, it's not about the record it's more about the legacy, imagine being one of the guys who beat Manny and get him into retirement, Mikey is a perfect opponent for Pacquiao, I'm just afraid that he will imitate Marquez counter-punching style to beat Manny but let's see.

This is not a Ryan Garcia vs Manny Pacquiao fight, don't be mislead.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is undefeated, no question about that but the one that would fight Manny is  Mikey Garcia, and according to this record that we can find in https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/364679.. he has one loss and that is against Errol Spence Jr.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 16, 2021, 09:57:10 AM


Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.

Ryan Garcia is undefeated and so is Crawford and they are more than willing to fight Manny, it's not about the record it's more about the legacy, imagine being one of the guys who beat Manny and get him into retirement, Mikey is a perfect opponent for Pacquiao, I'm just afraid that he will imitate Marquez counter-punching style to beat Manny but let's see.

This is not a Ryan Garcia vs Manny Pacquiao fight, don't be mislead.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is undefeated, no question about that but the one that would fight Manny is  Mikey Garcia, and according to this record that we can find in https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/364679.. he has one loss and that is against Errol Spence Jr.

Yes, it's Mikey Garcia and he had some good fights against Spence Jr. although he loses via Unanimous decision. We still can't underestimate him ad he has 40 fights and 30 wins from KO, that's a good record if you'll ask me. At the division of Manny Pacquaio now, he can find a lot of good fighters to fight, but what's important is they have to agree with the money thing first.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: btc_angela on May 16, 2021, 12:25:45 PM


Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.

Ryan Garcia is undefeated and so is Crawford and they are more than willing to fight Manny, it's not about the record it's more about the legacy, imagine being one of the guys who beat Manny and get him into retirement, Mikey is a perfect opponent for Pacquiao, I'm just afraid that he will imitate Marquez counter-punching style to beat Manny but let's see.

Two different set of fighters, although Marquez has laid down the blue print on how to beat Pacquiao, it took him a lot of fights before he figure Manny out. and Mikey is not a counter punching great, he loves to go toe to toe.

So I don't think that he will use this tactic or plan if ever this fight will push through. And I'm seeing that he will really go fight Manny and really test him in the early rounds, similar to what Thurman did. But it will be a costly mistake on Mikey (and just like the rest of the other fighters who think Manny is small and can't knock out/down them.)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: mirakal on May 16, 2021, 12:37:33 PM


Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.

Ryan Garcia is undefeated and so is Crawford and they are more than willing to fight Manny, it's not about the record it's more about the legacy, imagine being one of the guys who beat Manny and get him into retirement, Mikey is a perfect opponent for Pacquiao, I'm just afraid that he will imitate Marquez counter-punching style to beat Manny but let's see.

Two different set of fighters, although Marquez has laid down the blue print on how to beat Pacquiao, it took him a lot of fights before he figure Manny out. and Mikey is not a counter punching great, he loves to go toe to toe.

So I don't think that he will use this tactic or plan if ever this fight will push through. And I'm seeing that he will really go fight Manny and really test him in the early rounds, similar to what Thurman did. But it will be a costly mistake on Mikey (and just like the rest of the other fighters who think Manny is small and can't knock out/down them.)

It would make this fight more interesting if he would really go toe to toe against Manny as that's what he likes. Marquez beat Manny in their last fight but I would not say he is better than Manny because they fought many times and Manny beat him more than once. Some call it was just a lucky punch but let us not argue about that, what's done is done, and let's focus on Manny as he is now the active in the sport.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Oasisman on May 16, 2021, 12:51:08 PM


Whether what angle you look, this is a good fight as no champion now who is willing to fight Manny. I don't think it's just about the money, maybe they still believe that Manny is hard to beat and that would tarnish their undefeated record. Well, Garcia is not anymore undefeated so he would take this fight, however, we cannot ascertain if this will happen since there's no official statement yet that it's already finalized.

Ryan Garcia is undefeated and so is Crawford and they are more than willing to fight Manny, it's not about the record it's more about the legacy, imagine being one of the guys who beat Manny and get him into retirement, Mikey is a perfect opponent for Pacquiao, I'm just afraid that he will imitate Marquez counter-punching style to beat Manny but let's see.

This is not a Ryan Garcia vs Manny Pacquiao fight, don't be mislead.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is undefeated, no question about that but the one that would fight Manny is  Mikey Garcia, and according to this record that we can find in https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/364679.. he has one loss and that is against Errol Spence Jr.

I guess you guys are confusing each other lol.
The guy at the top of this quoted comment says nobody wants to fight Manny just to be tarnished with one loss especially if they're undefeated, instead they want to fight Manny for money.
The guy at the 2nd quoted message responded that there are figthers who actually would like to fight with Manny not only for the money but for the legacy and so he mentioned Ryan Garcia and Terrence Crawford. I'm pretty sure he's well aware of who's Manny Pacquiao's opponent as he have mentioned at the end of his statement that he's bothered with Mikey Garcia's possiblity of imitating Marquez counter puncher against the Pacman.

Anyway, I could be wrong with how I have comprehended the statement but that's what I think it is.

Everyone is excited for this match anyway.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 16, 2021, 11:46:59 PM

I guess you guys are confusing each other lol.
The guy at the top of this quoted comment says nobody wants to fight Manny just to be tarnished with one loss especially if they're undefeated, instead they want to fight Manny for money.
The guy at the 2nd quoted message responded that there are figthers who actually would like to fight with Manny not only for the money but for the legacy and so he mentioned Ryan Garcia and Terrence Crawford. I'm pretty sure he's well aware of who's Manny Pacquiao's opponent as he have mentioned at the end of his statement that he's bothered with Mikey Garcia's possiblity of imitating Marquez counter puncher against the Pacman.

Anyway, I could be wrong with how I have comprehended the statement but that's what I think it is.

Everyone is excited for this match anyway.

To me it makes more sense that everybody wants to fight him because he is an old man and they can make a lot of money. The risk vs. reward factors are very favorable for anybody that's challenging Pacquaio. Even if you lose you still get a big payday. I don't think anybody is avoiding him, it's just been difficult to get a deal done because of the pandemic.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Kemarit on May 17, 2021, 02:31:14 AM

I guess you guys are confusing each other lol.
The guy at the top of this quoted comment says nobody wants to fight Manny just to be tarnished with one loss especially if they're undefeated, instead they want to fight Manny for money.
The guy at the 2nd quoted message responded that there are figthers who actually would like to fight with Manny not only for the money but for the legacy and so he mentioned Ryan Garcia and Terrence Crawford. I'm pretty sure he's well aware of who's Manny Pacquiao's opponent as he have mentioned at the end of his statement that he's bothered with Mikey Garcia's possiblity of imitating Marquez counter puncher against the Pacman.

Anyway, I could be wrong with how I have comprehended the statement but that's what I think it is.

Everyone is excited for this match anyway.

To me it makes more sense that everybody wants to fight him because he is an old man and they can make a lot of money. The risk vs. reward factors are very favorable for anybody that's challenging Pacquaio. Even if you lose you still get a big payday. I don't think anybody is avoiding him, it's just been difficult to get a deal done because of the pandemic.

True, Manny is still a lottery for many boxers in his weight division and they are chasing him for their biggest paycheck. The only problem is, which Mikey high lighted is that they have to go to a lot of channels before they can reach Pacquiao.

So it seems that Manny has a lot of advisers, I do hope that Pacquiao has one single point of contact, let's say Sean Gibbons, but Sean is in the US and Pacquiao is in the Philippines. So communications could be one hindrance that's why this fight is in jeopardy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 17, 2021, 04:05:36 AM
So it seems that Manny has a lot of advisers, I do hope that Pacquiao has one single point of contact, let's say Sean Gibbons, but Sean is in the US and Pacquiao is in the Philippines. So communications could be one hindrance that's why this fight is in jeopardy.

That should not be an issue. Manny just need to agree on the purse and the opponent and I guess Sean Gibbons know him enough and therefore the requirement of meeting in person is not there. BTW, Gibbons recently joked that Julio César Chávez could be a potential opponent for Manny Pacquiao. As we all know... the main issue here is that Chávez is a bit old.. He will be 59 in a couple of months.  ;D

BTW, the latest statement from Mikey Garcia is that he is still "hopeful" about a UAE fight with Manny Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Manny Pacquiao vs Mikey Garcia in Dubai on July 2021?
Post by: Botnake on May 17, 2021, 05:56:22 AM
So it seems that Manny has a lot of advisers, I do hope that Pacquiao has one single point of contact, let's say Sean Gibbons, but Sean is in the US and Pacquiao is in the Philippines. So communications could be one hindrance that's why this fight is in jeopardy.

That should not be an issue. Manny just need to agree on the purse and the opponent and I guess Sean Gibbons know him enough and therefore the requirement of meeting in person is not there. BTW, Gibbons recently joked that Julio César Chávez could be a potential opponent for Manny Pacquiao. As we all know... the main issue here is that Chávez is a bit old.. He will be 59 in a couple of months.  ;D

BTW, the latest statement from Mikey Garcia is that he is still "hopeful" about a UAE fight with Manny Pacquiao.

UAE seems to be a good spot for big boxing event now, just recently, Fury announce that the Fury vs Joshua fight is gonna happen in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, so probably we will see this fight in that country as well, or maybe in Dubai, what do you think?