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https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/04/16/21/boxing-casimero-set-for-august-14-title-fight-with-cubas-rigondeaux

What do you think about this fight? I'm sure this is a great fight, who do you think will win? will Casimero continue his popularity after this fight?

This is a WBO bantamweight title fight, and two fighters have different styles, so it's hard to tell who will win.
As of now, there are no betting odds yet but I believe once the betting odds are out, one should not be a heavy favorite as it looks like a pretty fair fight.

Casimero record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916 (30 wins - 4 loses)

Rigondeaux record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989 (20 wins - 1 loss)

Casimero is on a disadvantage in terms of stance against a Southpaw Rigondeaux but Casimero has the age advantage against Rigondeaux plus Casimero is more experienced.

I think Casimero will have the edge here. Rigondeaux is somewhat on the decline is the last couple of years and I think Father Time is catching up with him. While Casimero is at his peak right now and obviously, the brawler and has knock out punch in both hands.

The only problem I see is that Rigondeaux is a defensive boxer, so it might frustrate Casimero if he can't hit a moving target and he might used a lot of energy chasing Rigondeaux around.

This is still a good fight although Rigondeaux is not undefeated anymore.
Actually, Tete was a defensive fighter too, in fact, he is taller and he can impose his defensive style but Casimero found a way to destroy his defense and he was hit by a huge upper cut IIRC.

I like this fight as both fighters are well respected, this should bring real entertainment during fight night.

I hope we will see a good fight, not a boring fight, and with that said, Casimero should dictate this fight.

Their age is 8 years apart, that's quite a distance, maybe Casimero's stamina is superior. Seeing Rigondeaux's range, he was superior. Looking at Casimero's status even though he is younger, it turns out that he has a better record. But the two of them haven't played in a long time, so I'm not going to guess the winner.

@Luzin, Casimero has fought a lot of fighters with different styles, so the style of Rigondeaux is not new to him and for sure his camp has already prepared for it as he will surely want to defend his title. His biggest win in the last 5 years was a win against Tete, he was the underdog but he beat a taller and defensive Tete with his very careful strategy in the ring.

^ Record shows that Casimero has more fights and more wins and it would probably he will be the possible winner in this match.
If you will look into their personal stats, Rigondeaux has more inactive days than his opponent which means probably he did not have active into boxing activity. And also age it seems he is also older than Casimero, at age of 40 will probably a good sign to stop your boxing career. However, this is only my personal opinion. I will go in Casimero here, it seems he will be got high odds.

high odds because hes the underdog 😁
casimero is no match to him. he will not last a round against this guy. did you see what he did to donaire?
rigondeaux stopped fighting for awhile but it doesnt mean he forgets his boxing skills and he is too big for casimero.

Casimero is currently on his prime and people have to remember how he pummeled Duke Micah within just 3 rounds on his last fight. On the other hand, Ortiz is still explosive but now showing signs of passing his prime, different to his usual. Not degrading Ortiz as he has a good overall record but battling against a much younger and currently on prime will be difficult for him (his last fight was against a 38 year old on which he won via Split decision).

There's still no venue for the fight but I hope it will happened. Both fighters don't have a match for about a year now (8 months for Casimero).

When it comes to experience and punching power then i would definitely go for Casimero but doesnt mean that Cuban fighter wont really be giving some fight.
They are similar in height but different in reach on where Rigondeaux does have longer reach which mean Casimero should really be careful and much better if
he would really be focusing on in-fight rather than on technicalities on being far yet he would really be on disadvantage.

Lastly, i thought that Casimero vs Inoue would push through but it seems both fighters does have their own fights with other boxers but lets see
if after these fights they would be both comes next.

Though the odds are not available yet on the bookies but i guess Casimero would be the favorite on this match. Rigondeaux is on the twilight of his career while Casimero is on it's peak, that's my basis.

When Rigondeaux fought and won against Nonito Donaire, i thought that this boxer would be big but it turns out the other way. His style suits on the amateur competition while boxing fans wants to see a fighter going toe to toe and brawl like Manny Pacqauio, that maybe the reason why Rigondeaux's name is not a hit in boxing when he is in his prime while Casimero's style suits to the taste of most boxing fans.

They both have a clean record but the only big difference I see is that, their age and the days of being inactive. Rigondeaux is almost 2 years of being in active and I see this as a big disadvantage considering his age as well. I’m not being biased here but I’m confident that Casimero will win and he’s a Pinoy pride of course, have to support him all the time.

I guess this is a tough fight by Casimero, Rigondeaux is a defensive specialist, he needs to be fast and smart in order to beat him. However, on a positive note, since it's Casimero who is the depending champion, Rigondeaux here needs to be aggressive if he wants to win this fight from the judges' scorecards.

If he can't him Casimero will clean shots, I guess he might lose, he has to remember that as a challenger, he has to be aggressive and convincing to the judges is necessary, so he needs to work on that.

There's plenty of time to prepare for this fight, I guess Casimero is already in the Philippines now so he can train more and be more comfortable as he is in his own country. Casimero is more popular now since he beat Tete, but this fighter should not be taken for granted as he has become champion before.

I believe the effort of Casimero does not change whoever opponent he will be facing, and now that he is under MP promotion, he is more improved compared to the past. Hopefully, after this fight, if Casimero would be successful, we will see the long-awaited Casimero vs Inoue.

Yes, Casimero will be the big favourite here.


Outstanding amateur career for the Jackal (I think this is his moniker if I'm not mistaken). He is really more of a defensive boxer. It's not only his style, but his personality is not being like by boxing fans. Floyd and for those who have seen Pernell Whitaker (RIP) was well love even if they are defensive genuis on their prime.

And then he quit against Loma, highly touted fight but it became a one sided fight and Loma frustrates him and made him "no mas".

I saw the highlight of this fight, seems like Rigondeaux doesn't have the power anymore, he can't match Loma's style and he quit in the fight. if you look at him, he doesn't sound like he was badly hurt, with that, I loss my respect on him as he is not a real warrior.

I watched the highlights again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmE_4RxLDuU

I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

I see Casimero dominating this fight, Rogondeaux is a former champion and can send a big signal to Inoue if he wins by a knockout.

Right, when he was given the dose of his own medicine and be dominated, he mentally breaks down and just say he doesn't want to fight anymore.


If Casimero hits Rigondeaux in early rounds, I would say this fight will not go to distance. Rigondeaux doesn't want to get hit, just like in the Loma fight, that's already a blue print on how to beat a defensive boxer like him. break him down early specially with body shots.

That's the only lose record of Rigondeaux but I have to agree that he tend to lose focus and if you'll fight against Casimero, you should know to focus on the match until its done. Casimero is a great boxer and younger compare Rigondeaux, I also see Casimero will be in favor on this match they both have a great history of matches, and I can't wait to see the result of this one.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

High likely that sportsbooks will favor Casimero here.
But definitely, Casimero should not take this fight for granted.
Few months of training is still ahead of him, so there's a lot of time to prepare for this match.
Now, we just wait what odds are waiting for them.

I agree, although Rigondeaux is no longer in his prime and probably just want to have a good pay check before he retire, he still pose a threat to Casimero.

And besides, Casimero is expected to blast him so that he can set up a huge fight with Inoue. But still a dangerous fight that Casimero shouldn't take for granted. Just excited to see that Casimero will finally have a fight, I'm sure all of us miss this hard hitting Filipino boxer.

Rigondeaux only lost is to Lomachenko, but the fight happen when Rigo can't pull the trigger anymore and Loma uses his technical ability to frustrate Rigo in every round.

So I'm also with Casimero here, still in his prime and one of the best in this division together with the Japanese monster. Maybe this will be the first time that we will see Rigo going down in the canvass if Casimero can sneak one straight hard right hand.

I thought that Casimero vs Inoue will happen this year, perhaps we need to wait till the covid-19 pandemic is over next year.

As for this fight, good tune up for Casimero but he needs to focus and not looking over Rigo and think about Inoue fight in the future. I think Rigo even at 40 years old is still very dangerous, his straight hand is underrated, but this will be his main weapon and then his superb defense skills. Casimero will be the favorite and i do hope that there will be no upset or Rigo derailings Casimero vs Inoue.

There's no rumor on that, the supposed to be the fight of Inoue and Casimero was already canceled, after that, they have their fights and have won them.

For me this is not just a tune-up, this is a serious fight that could be as serious as Inoue, if Inoue and Rigondeaux will fight, I think the odds will also be close as Rigondeaux is a legit opponent, once a champion and he would always have that heart of a champion.

Rigondeaux is ancient for a bantamweight. Officially he is 40, but he looks even older. He used to be known as a boring fighter, especially after that snoozefest against Nonito Donaire, but now that he's in decline he's become more of an action fighter.

Casimero isn't considered anything special but he is champion for a reason and I think he should win the fight based on being younger and in his prime.

^ Is that true?
Long-term practice is always to the advantage of all boxers. As far as I know, most Filipino have been given enough time to train, during the past year most of them around 90% of the Filipino boxers win because of their perseverance. In this match, I would give my coin to Casimero, not just because of his fighting style, also at his age. From another perspective, Casimer also has more experience than Guillermo. In the fights, he had been tougher than Guillermo as well. I don’t really think these are not enough bases for Casimero to win here.

Nah, Casimero has fought a southpaw boxer before with height and reach advantage and did pretty well in the fight. seeing Rigondeaux's fight with Lomachenko you can see that he doesn't have the same speed and power as he did 8 years ago when he fought Donaire(a great fight and an impressive win for Rigondeaux's). as for Casimero, he is in his prime and you can see that he still has his speed and power that could prove troublesome for Rigondeaux.

Right, when he fought Donaire, he was in his prime, but today at 40 years old Rigondeaux speed and power has gone for sure. Maybe his defensive instinct is there, but it will not be enough to beat a high caliber and power and aggressive boxer like Casimero. For experience, I will say both of them have the same. But Casimero has the edge here because of his superior talent and power.

Yes, it was cancelled because of the pandemic, but Casimero did his part, he beat Micah.
On the part of Inoue, he won against Jason Moloney. So I think they will still collide in the future.

Tune up fights in the sense that Casimero needed to get busy and fight this year, otherwise he will be rusty. I disagree though, Casimero will be the favorite here. Yes, Rigo is legit, but in his last fight, he won on split decision and he is not getting any younger as well. And Casimero is battle tested, he has traveled around the world to fights and won.

In the future, probably, but it looks like Bob Arum who is the promoter of Inoue is afraid of MP promotion's fighters. They were already announced, why it's canceled? Pandemic is just an excuse because there are fights that have happened during the pandemic, they can make it happen if they find a way.

Every promoter has their own style or strategy, if a promoter would not allow a certain fight, that means that is not good for the business. We have to understand that it's all go down to "business". What if Inoue loses against Casimero? That would be the end of his popularity, so they maybe are looking for an opponent that they think they have a huge chance of winning.

Boxing is all about endurance, techniques, and power. Rigondeaux looks physically weak for me, compare to Casimero, maybe it is because of their age gap or their workout routine. With Casimeros's good boxing record and being young, I think he has the advantage in this fight if they are gonna exchange blows equally. However, I don't think Rigondeaux's body could handle so much body punch from Casimeros's, so he won't last long if that's what is gonna hit him.

Some people might think that the fight against Rigondeaux is a big test but it's not because he is a fading fighter he is not young and his last few fights showed that he is aging but he still can, Rigondeaux will come here as an underdog but who knows if he still has something left in him that can give Casimero and the boxing world a big surprised.

Age doesn’t really matter in this match. Casimero, at a young age, has a better experience, standing, and match profile than the guy with a defense specialty. It’s been a while since Casimero holds the title and I don’t really think that Rigondeaux could earn it from him.

Try to watch the highlights of Casimero’s matches, you would be amazed how he nails the matches he had before. And honestly, I find it boring to watch Rino/El Chaca’s previous matches. Odds will surely favor Casimero here.

Well, Casimero is a Filipino Fighter same as Manny Pacquiao --their pride is enough to take advantage and win against any contenders.
In this match, I would choose Casimero and I think he will be in favor of sports bookmakers. Their experience is too far. Casimero has all it takes to win. Rigo on the other side is a very boring fighter, I agree with you all here. This match will not become that mainstream. There are not many known fighters compared to others, as well.  But still, a worthy fight to watch. I just hope that someday I would experience watching matches live. But that is too impossible for now because of the pandemic.

But in boxing, pride is not enough. You need strength to fulfill the pride.

Knowing Casimero, he's an aggressive boxer so I don't question his offensive firepower. But since Rigondeaux will likely shift into defense more, Casimero just needs to be cautious to cover the hole that might be used as an opening by his opponent. A lucky shot always has a chance to strike.

Rigondeaux got a good standing and the same as Casimero. But I'm still not yet familiar with Rigondeaux's fighting style but his record tells one thing, that he's also a good fighter as Casimero.
They're known for it and I agree it's not enough but the usual thing, training and experience makes them strong fighters.

You should watch some youtube highlights of his, for sure you'll be amaze how good he is defensively and at the same time, I'm afraid you'll feel bored on his boxing style.

I'm thinking, if Casimero beat Tete, there's no reason he can't beat Rigondeaux here, but I'm telling you, Casimero won't get the odds of the heavy favorites here. By saying "heavy", for me it means odds like 3/1 and up.

Yes, that's what I'm about to do.
Thanks for that hint, that's why before betting on this match, I'll make sure that I've got enough analysis and I would take advises from other people like you who have better understanding for both fighters.

I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.

That's a good point, Casimero is one of the hottest boxers now, an underrated boxer but could win against a champion. I would also pick him in this fight, no doubt he could win and might win a KO here. The last loss of Rigondeaux was  TKO because he did not continue, this could be his 2nd KO, but hopefully not in a manner he lost against Loma.

We expect a good fight, Casimero had a tougher challenge compared to Inoue... This is a statement that Casimero is not afraid of anyone, besides he is not undefeated so there's nothing to be worried about, being a great boxer does not automatically mean you are undefeated, for me, you are called great if you are exciting to watch, that's why people choose Pacquiao vs Mayweather.

Also true! Not because you have that full determination to win means that you are in favor,

The fight could twist and the favor will fire back on you if you put your guard down, that aggresiveness which really common to Casimero might endanger him, Rigo's camp might see that and carefully analyze the possibility of hitting him from his own offensive attack, a counter one that fall solid may bring him down and snatch this fight from him(Casimero)

It's possible though, it's not all about Casimero as Rigondeaux is a hell of a champion too. Maybe he is not getting any younger, but his experience is still there and he can still win with his defensive ability. Casimero needs to have a very convincing win so he can get another big fight after this, it is his defense of the title, so he should win.

Even though he is not undefeated, this fight is still very important to him, because if he lose, his popularity will drop and he will not line up a big fight. On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

I doubt that, if they can't give Casimero a fight now, how can they give him a fight if Casimero will get better and better. Inoue is undefeated, and in a good pound-for-pound ranking, if he loses, his career might be at risk, and knowing bob, he would not allow that. Let's expect that Bob will just find an opponent of Inoue that he can easily beat, he will be a cash cow for a while until he will be fully tested.

Not that i do believe on on where Bob will usually set out fights on where hype is really on there because he knows that revenue would really be big.Who knows if the current
fights given into each fighter are part of their strategy on making some even more excitement about Casimero and Inoue fight.If they would able win their respective fights
then we might see next that it would really be settled on next possible negotiations on that certain bout. Lots of had anticipated that this would push
through but it turns out that they would need to fight another boxers in the ring.

they need to increase the hype of their potential fight in the future. promoters are smart, if they can see tremendous following for casimero-inoue fight, they will make it happen. but right now, i guess it is not the time. besides, if that will happen, i hope that the virus is much contained so more people can really watch it live. the excitement is different if the audience is full-packed. but guess, we will not see that happen anytime soon

Sounds familiar isn't it?

That's how Bob build Manny Pacquiao, carefully choosing fighters and make him look good. So for now, just maybe the Inoue vs Casimero might not happen. And so Casimero has to move on with his career and stop chasing Inoue for now and fights Rigondeaux who is already a wash up fighter. And if by chance Casimero won in brandish fashion, he can call again Inoue and put the pressure on him and Bob to make the fight happen in the future.

I don't think we can compare Manny to Inoue, Manny never ducks anyone, he would fight whoever is put in front of him and Bob Arum trusted him so he doesn't need to disapprove it as long as the potential income is good. Inoue, is undefeated until now but he hasn't faced a caliber fighter yet, well, he fought Donaire which he was given a tough time, but Donaire is not anymore in his prime, so it should be Casimero whom he should face and not an unpopular boxer.

I want Casimero to win the match, although I am confident that he can win he is fighting a champion and anything can happen, I want the Casimero Inoue match to materialize and I know it will materialize at the right time, they both have promoters who want to make a big profit at the right time, the excitement of many fans will make both fighters a lot of money.

We will find it out soon, but for the moment, both fighters have to win whoever they will fight. The Casimero vs Inoue was scheduled before the covid-19, it was later postponed then cancelled due to the pandemic, therefore, our best chance of seeing this fight is when the pandemic is over.

And that would be having an indefinite schedule but who knows that after their own fights would be over then theyre would be the ones to be next in line but i do presume that they are just waiting for this
pandemic to be over because when it comes to revenue sake then nothing beats out when people do able to go into the arena and would watch the fight compared into having that PPV sales
which is entirely different compared to arena ticket sales.So this might be their target and thats why they do continue to postponed it and rather give them
other opponents.

The one thing I am afraid of is an upset on Casimoero or Inoue, we all know that this things happen when fighters will make a lot of money but they delayed the fight and opted to fight low rankign figters only to get an upset, both Mascarinas and Rigondeaux are capable of an upset, and this will ruin everything we all hope to happen a mega fight between Inoue and Casimero

After Casimero beat Tete I become a big fan, Tete happens to score one of the fastest knockout in boxing history yet Casimero beat him convincingly by a knockout, many consider Tete to be the man capable of beating Inoue, now every attention shifted to Casimero, this fight will be a good tune-up fight for Casimero after he beat Rigondeux he'll have more confidence to beat Inoue.

Obviously, Casimero's promoter and the manager wants him to get a good tune fight before fighting Inoue, the pandemic will not let these two champions collide because of the lost of money which is really untrue, Rigondeaux's time is over and this could be his last fight, and Casimero will send him to retirement and he will be well prepared to fight INOUE.

The Inoue vs Casimero fight is not anymore hyped now, fans quit speculating this fight as there is news that it will not happen anytime soon. Both fighters (Inoue and Casimero) are busy with other opponents, maybe in the future but not soon we will see them fight.

If you see some of the videos for Casimero, he was really wanting to fight Inoue and he even calls himself the real monster, Inoue has not responded to that challenge because they know it's their camp who canceled the fight.

I had to admit Guillermo Rigondeaux has accuracy and power on his punches, you can literally hear the impact of his punches when they hit and superb accuracy, in my opinion, but apparently, he hasn't played in a long time now maybe he would have a hard time catching up because of his age and Casimero is younger than him but eventually, we can surely see if he is still able to keep up with John Riel Casimero because I think that Casimero has an advantage with Speed and because of their age gap it will clearly be shown on their match, Surely I would support my fellow Filipino and betting a couple of Crypto for this fight.

Whatever the reason is for such cancelation then who knows but for sure there some valid reason for that but doesnt mean that they chicken out regarding on what Casimero is been saying.

Its true that people are already losing interest on this one specially that one of them had already set out some fights which means we might be seeing this fight to be pushed or not for this year or into the next.

It would be good if we would really see for this fight to be pushed but it seems that they are just waiting for this pandemic to be over before they would talk about on the possible fight.

I agree with you, before Casimero became popular, Rigondeaux has already become a champion and he was also winning good fights, things just change when he loses against Lomachenko, but we can understand since Lomachenko is the favorite.

if we compare Lomachenko and Casimero, Lomachenko is a world-class fighter which I think everyone knows compared to Casimero,  so  Rigondeaux definitely has a shot here, but I'll definitely bet on the young and hungry fighter who is Casimero.

The both became a champion in 2012, the only thing is that Casimero went to the backyard of the champion and beat them that's why there is no news because the fight happens outside of the US. Will Rigo is winning the US soil. So I guess in terms of popularity they should be at least equal.


Yes, he has a shot, but Casimero will hit him and he will become defensive again, that could make the fight boring for us.

Lomachenko is a way different level fighter that is for sure, but we may never know if they will had a rematch, and that is the only lost Rigondeaux had and 1 No Contest let's see if John Riel Casimero really can out speed Rigondeaux,


I don't think that this fight will go boring, that superb power punch and accuracy of Rigondeaux will be his weapon while Casimero has the speed and power in my opinion this is definitely a very exciting match I could not see the full depth of what may happen means it is unpredictable.

So the Inoue fight will not happening this year for sure? I thought at least before the year end their Fight will finally happen.

Because for me they are the fighter that really matches each other.

Watch out if he finally face Inoue , the best fighter of Japan in their division.

Hope that Casimero will win again on this.

You have to check the record of Rigo, when he steps up and fights high caliber boxers, it's usually more of defense skills and UD win, against Nonito and Joseph Agbeko, and when he fought Loma he quit. His last 3 fights,

Solis with a record of 30-5-1 = SD
Ceja 32-3 = TKO
Delgado 16-8 = KO

So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

Casimero has to destroy the defense of Rigondeaux here as for sure, we can expect that he will just run and score and he will not fight toe to toe against Casimero as he knows his power. I like to see  KO win by Casimero as that would add up to his impressive victories in gambling, but I don't know if I will see it here.

For me this will be a half boring, half-exciting fight. Rigo is no longer relevant in boxing anymore, he only fights to make some money and may not go out of his shell come fight night thus make this fight a boring one. On the other side, we all know what Casimero is capable of doing and with his offensive style of fight where he goes first and will to be hit, this will make this fight exciting.

Have seen some of Casimero's vlog and he promised that he will do his to knockout Rigo and i do believe he can do it.

A boxer is judged based on his last fights and so far Casimero is doing great on his last two fights both of which he won decisively by knockout coming from two boxers one with good potential and another a holder of one of the fastest knockout.
We cannot say the same thing about Rigondeaux he quit on his tool against Loma because he cannot hit Loma and he makes him feel a weak fighter, it's fair enough to conclude that Casimero is by far the best fighter between the two so I'll go for Casimero here.

You're right, I was a little surprised, even though he is younger he has a good record. He competes a lot more, I don't know why that is.

Maybe Casimero's stamina is better, if there is a long match I think Casimero is better and will win. But this is only my prediction

There are indeed fighters to be like that but i cant say much about Rigo since i havent seen one of his fights so i cant really tell if this one would turn out to be a boring one.

When it comes to capability then there's no doubt that Casimero have it but doesnt mean that he should be confident on beating the other man because

this fighter shouldnt really let your guard down.Probabilities of lucky punch is there.

You can share your opinion about this fight and for sure there are also members here who have the same sentiments, Casimero's camp
are now preparing for this fight for sure.

Reviewing everything against their opponents making sure that before this match they've got good strategy to counter whatever Rigo have
to showcase.

The fight will only be concluded after the matched, once the final bell rings and the ref raise the hand of the winner.

Yes mate, probably one last hurray for Rigo before he eventually retires and hang that gloves. So what a better way to go out with a bang fighting Casimero at his prime. John Riel has the capability to knockout anyone, we already know that, thus it's going to be his offense against Rigo's defense. And I doubt that Rigo can withstand 12 rounds here, Casimero will pot shot him with power every round so it's possible that a knockout will come in less than ten rounds.

Rigo only lost once in his career, if Casimero has the same power as Loma, then probably we can expect a KO or TKO in the later rounds. Also, if Casimero would win by KO, he will be compared to LOMA because they are the only fighters who beat Rigo, and this will result in a big recognition again which makes Casimero more popular.

That is correct, he lost against LOMA and that's okay because LOMA was a good fighter and he was the favorite that time.

here are the betting odds for that fight. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-guillermo-rigondeaux-betting-odds


Maybe we will see the same in this fight being Casimero as the favorite.

I guess this is too much, Rigondeaux will be the underdog, that's for sure but Casimero will not get -325 as he is not as popular as Lomachenko. Let's just wait for the betting odds, the earlier we bet the better as we might see the best odds for Casimero if you guys are backing him to win.

I was not expecting this to happen because after the last fight of casimero i thought it will be Inoue of Japan is what he will facing next.
But Glad that He will be facing a good boxer now though not enough for the power of that Japanese boxer.
But look at the record of His opponent,  20 wins with only 1 Loss when Casimero has 4 .

yeah, the record shows Rigondeaux should be in the upper hand, but Rigondeaux is 40 years old and I watched his recent fight and his fight with Donaire eight years ago, you can see the decrease in aggressiveness, speed, and power in his last fight unlike when he fought Donaire where Rigondeaux dominated the fight. In this fight, Casimero has the upper hand because he is in his prime, he has speed, power, aggressiveness, stamina, and experience.

I would go with Rigondeaux in terms of experience but you are right, Casimero is in his prime now and he just beat a champion so I will not doubt him to win against Rigondeaux.  If Rigondeaux will be careless here, he might suffer what Tete suffered, it was just one mistake and the fight was over.

Casimero's moves are unpredictable because he has a different style than he usually bases on his opponent's movements so I guess it would be tough for Rigondeaux to defeat him. Casimero's style isn't uniform so Rigondeaux should use the allotted time to prepare for this fight.

@Japinat, can you put a poll so we can vote. This is a big fight, I was watching some videos on youtube and have known how successful Rigondeaux is as a boxer. If we compare the achievement of Rigondeaux against Casimero and even Inoue, Rigondeaux is more successful in his career.

His only loss is against Lomachenko, so we can't really say that Casimero would easily win here, this is a tough challenge for Casimero and I think it's 50/50 that Casimero will win.

Agree with you, he is not an easy opponent like other fans are thinking. According to their record, both stands at 5′ 4″   but Rigondeaux has wider reach compared to Casimero, but anyway it's not a big deal as Casimero beat a taller fighter.

While we are hoping to see an Inoue vs Casimero fight, I think this fight is also big and we have to appreciate the promoter for making this possible.

this is a unification fight, so it's an important fight, and opposite to Inoue fight, here it was Rigondeaux who calls the challenge and Casimero accepted it right away.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/johnriel-casimero-accepts-rigondeaux-challenge-title-unification-fight

As requested, the poll has been added now, I voted already, so you guys can also vote now.  :)

Voted as well, sorry, but I'm a bit bias here as I will vote for a Filipino boxer. I guess most of us here will vote for Casimero but it's still nice to see how many will vote for Rigondeaux to win. More information about this fight, worth a read for me.

Go  check. (https://box.live/fights/casimero-vs-rigondeaux/?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=f1dd21baf2344ba642c922de92d1f1e711e8db89-1621004756-0-Ac0aA3pvEnnIQv3MTvsZ7XdyZyy41R893pv94YR4PKXjPR8oTHjMRaqO5x_OlqGpO1tty5mctuqyGU-0vKYSwoB_Itt0NZIEmVySnCa-lqcrQhy39auGO-SF7dTmj5ZnUmhn-KAFrnpDjGd9tGbu3PMmG5V3Fc8dHIY7dZUHnT3mbBg5cUvWSrc6J8LMpxzH6_4XBZ8KZuba6uuXGO7wUaWhDItqfd-brzDecugA883aKlGJJwFUN9U-GGEdJESY55gVpqgiCMLiHbjMiKViwLdWQIKjSjXYN-8iY-2SinVUrtp6tg0sIqxeejGoRtsryeqQbCHwMcPcnJqU18aJ1pWKD38k7U9DFfWjihANl47AW3LLErQA7D0nN7GDSBxyTA6UOKTGuq55dvAZqPMa4SNPM1CvZiRaVJRYlcA1t5p-NUGotPU1RIlMuECdTmAyYiRMfpTscSl9e9vP6QJyM8_Qbyhu-VS3c28DxbWdzPl0Z2_rkIb6AE7JqGWHbd3043Nsynut1QQCpv2eHTY1b0_2_lxHTBs_fIqdqtnGHfOCiHTbWYecz0yXvoGLUiGwqe8We5bZn7P2BuCaAMWfHw5htSmL9NVLxU7VGhgmpb9L3hgI9z9zPr_Y3feWhdRNtWPHPY4DMRyxPpCntVnw26Qc1wvosBJW5_VgKDSsXJfCLf_2oj56lGc2kVeWMX0r6lesyi2hpMJeRt73H8tcnio)

^ Me too, I already voted and it seems Casimero is their choice.
The odds and the people are eye-in with Casimero and for me, this is a match where Casimero’s skill will be proven. Rigondeaux is somehow hard than the previous players Casimero fought such as Inoue Pow but with proper conditioning and great connections, I think he will be able to win against him. One good thing about Casimero have as well is that his styles are very flexible and sometimes unpredictable. Rigo would find it hard to analyze and strategize the match because of that. But this is a good match-up. Nevertheless, Good luck bettors.

We can rely on these two fighters will train hard to win, this is a unification match and it's very important as one would lose his belt if he loses. Rigondeaux journey less the loss of against Lomachenko, you would not think that he will be the dog here, but because of that, people think that Casimero will win as he is in his prime now.

We also have to remember that Rigondeaux  loss because he climb in weight, he fought a bigger fighter and we can see that, but now he is coming back to a weight where he is very comfortable, so it's a big challenge on Casimero on how to beat him.

So it's 7-0 in favour of Casimero. Definitely it seems that we see him as favoured to win against Rigo.

And boxing fans is really looking for the Casimero vs Inoue fight. And I think Casimero is really 'dreaming' a fight against the Monster and won't allow Rigo to derail. Rigo will face a big challenge for Casimero no doubt about it, and even in interview Casimero is really full of confident as he promises to take down Rigo here.

Something that will boost more with his career once the fight against Inoue got finalized.

He won't allow Rigo to interfere but he needed to showcase his talent to create more interest from both fans and promoters so after
this fight and if he win it against Rigo then the call against Inoue will be more quicker as fans will anticipate that both camps will settle
all the conditions to make things happen.

The voting in here does not mean Casimero has a huge chance to win, this isn't an easy fight for him. of course I will root for him to win but I would not be too confident that he will win since Rigondeaux has more experience than him and has fought a lot of champions too. I'm just hoping he will win and for sure this will be a great fight.

Still 7-0 as of now, no one has voted for Rigondeaux to win this fight.

I guess you guys are being biased.. lol.... I love this fight, it's definitely one of the biggest fights of our Filipino champion, a win will result to better future opportunities.

What do you think about this?

Casimero sees ‘easy fight’ vs Rigondeaux, predicts KO victory
 (https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-sees-easy-fight-vs-rigondeaux-predicts-knockout-victory)

post your comments here.

Wow.. this statement made me think if he can really knock Rigo out.
text from the article above
I know this guy talks much and also shows it in the ring, but he better stop underestimating Rigondeaux as he won't be a champion if he is not good, and he beat Donaire that is in his prime. If Casimero can match the speed, then it will be a great fight.

Yeah, everyone is biased here as there are more Filipino boxing fans around in this community. And we have seen how dangerous and brandish Casimero is, and he can back up all the trash talking. So it's possible that he will knock out Rigo in style.

And this kind of statement is more of a psyche type, being confident and you know that you are going to win, then it can be embedded in his mind and be positive entering the fight. And it could have a negative effect on Rigo too once he read Casimero's statement.

I don't think so, they are in the business for a long period of time already, it's not new to them, trash talk and everything, these are just words and it would help to hype the fight, but the real fight is in the right, not outside.

For sure! those trash talks are part of this business, marketing strategy to attract fans engagements, the more they use blatant words the more the fans

will get excited and see how it will going to executed. I use to remember those fighters who do this with Pacman, after the fight they've realized that
it was so wrong making statements to him as they've suffer the consequences.

For Casimero that is normal to him, he is a legit trash talker and has very high confidence in the ring. However, I would still admire him as he always challenges or accepts a challenge from the best in boxing, and since he was challenge by Rigo, he accepts it instantly.

All he wants is to give us a good fight, of course, he wants to be more successful too, and to reach that stage, he needs to beat the best.

Good luck to him, this isn't an easy fight for him but I believe he can win.

This is a good read :
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/guillermo-rigondeaux-vs-john-riel-casimero-who-wins/175755

Their prediction is that Rigondeaux will win, I like to hear from the fans of Casimero, what do you think?


They have a point as Rigondeaux is a technical fighter with a wide experience and he can beat Casimero.

That's a good one man, we are just thinking there that Casimero would easily win this fight but the whole world thinks it's gonna be a close fight and it's hard to decide on who we will think will win. I say it's 50/50 but of course, we support what's ours and we should not be surprised that Casimero is leading the poll in our thread.

By the way for those who are looking at how to watch this, you can see the info on this site. https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/rigondeaux-vs-casimero

it's available on showtime live stream, I'm not sure it's televised free in the Philippines since it's a big fight.

If only this fight was held five years ago then i think Rigo might have won as he was more of a defensive fighter and a technical too, i agree.

But with his age of 40, things have changed and the power and speed that Rigo have diminished with time while Casimero has been through a lot of battles outside of his home country.

As i've said before, Casimero have different style than Donaire. The latter is more of a counter puncher while the former is an aggressive fighter that he will take the fight to his opponent. Rigo will be overwhelm by Casimero when bell rings as he eager to prove to his fans that Rigo will not derail his path to a big fight with the Monster.

If that's what we are going to witness in the fight, I would be so happy. I will support the Filipino here, it's our "kababayan" so it's automatic that we will support him. Manny will soon retire from boxing, and it's just good to see a new fighter will become popular in the world.

Though this fight is not gonna happen soon, but I can already feel the excitement.
I've already seen a lot of youtube videos from Filipino bloggers and I love to watch their content.

That's correct, the style of Donaire is very simple, knock his opponent out and he will win.
I saw some of his fights that he struggles, his fight against Walters is one good example, he hit Walters good but he cannot knock him out so instead, Walters knocks him badly. Another good example was his fight with Inoue, he also has some good rounds but he cannot take down Inoue so in the later round he suffers the power of Inoue.

When it comes to counter punching then Donaire does have it but it do honestly lack out power even though his KO percentage is sitting on >50% but still not really that a hard puncher
that can finish off but i do really appreciate when it comes to stamina.In regards with Casimero where they do have difference in fighting style which a bit more aggresive but can
really handle it out till the end, a little more work on his footwork then all things would be set.

Casimero will keep improving himself and he will keep beating champions. What I like about him is his passion in sports, he does talk a lot, that's given, but if we see him in the ring, we will be confident that he will win as he has a good IQ and he can intimidate any opponent.

He is no undefeated like other fights, but he is having a good run, and that's something a gambler is hard to go against as the chance of us winning if we do is very slim.

The Nicholas Walters fight is very different for Donaire, that's the first time that he goes up in weight and challenge the champion. And clearly he was out of his league as he gets knock out by Walters. But when he fights his division, he can clearly won.

So it's different style and we can't compare Donaire and Casimero. Rigo is a very slow starter while Casimero will go out in the first early rounds and really try to overwhelm his opponents with power punches.

Yes, Donaire tries to go up to follow the success of Manny Pacquiao but he failed, he really can't duplicate Pacquiao as he is the only one. Donaire will soon retire but we will never forget his contribution to boxing and we will always be proud of him.

I am not a huge fan of boxing as i am only watching the big heavyweight fights and the top fights in the other weight divisions. So the first time i saw rigondeaux fight was in the bout against lomachenko adn to be honest he looked pretty bad in that fight. I mean of course most boxers look stupid when they fight against lomachenko but the he always held his head down at almost knee level looked extremely strange to me and then he surrendered after the 6th round.
Casimeros style of fighting on the other hand is more spectacular but maybe that's also an advantage for rigondeaux.. we will see, but i would like to see casimero win.

I once watched Rigondeaux while betting on the 2013 world champions, I'm sure Casimero vs. Rigondeaux, Casimero is in no rush to conclude. Believe it or not, this time Casimero must admit that his opponent cannot be underestimated.

However I am heavier this round of medals will be brought home by Rigondeaux, but everything can change outside of our minds, this is just my belief.

This ain't no Olympics anymore, I think it's different in a professional fight and though I respect Rigondeaux as a boxer but this time, I believe the younger champion will come out victorious. What I don't like is that Casimero seems to be underestimating Rigondeaux which is not good IMO.

The thing i dont like with Casimero is that he's way too tactful which it is understandable to raise up some hype but too much would always be looking bad for most fans or sports entusiast out there.

Just like on what he did on provoking or trash talking Inoue even if the fight isnt been settled first.

Ex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGSwfPZbsW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4lwlFm04fA

He's good but if that kind of behavior would even get more worst as he wins or move further then that wouldnt be enough nor appealing for most people.

Yes, but what happened at the Olympics at that time was a good example and moment for Rigondeaux.

Despite the boxing championship between Casimero vs. Rigondeaux will take place August 14, 2021 in the US, I see things that are not pleasant from the words that are said, I often see boxing bets, initially opponent A underestimated opponent B for some reason, in fact in the ring, the one who underestimated him fell without moving, too dosing to judge a person.

I hope Casimero vs. Rigondeaux can become a professional bantamweight boxing event this year, interesting to bet on with a predetermined schedule of 12 rounds, let's see August who falls in round 7-8.

He was disrespectful on that interview, but we know he is just doing his job but it turns out it's not effective. He is challenging Inoue but this one is funny because Casimero can't speak English, lol.. he should have hired an interpreter, I'm sure the guy beside him knows how to speak.

Olympics or not yet their are facing in ring without face support so still they will need a punch to win and being boxers? they are best on it.
We are not Knew in this world mate, Boxers will do everything to distract their opponent or to make their ego broken for the coming fight , this will may affect the focus of the opponent then.

Style makes fights and every fighter has a unique style of their own, Casimero up to now still carry his words and this is his way to carry the fight, he just wants to be confident and beat any guy, yet it could backfire but he knows the repercussion of what he is doing, as logn as he is winning and he can carry himself with that kind of style I'm ok with it.

We do have different perceptions or views on how we do take someones opinion and behavior specially if its on a public talk or interview.Some might not really be seeing this as an issue
but some would really be finding this to be insulting or disrespect. Its not something new where fight should really be hyped up but i do much prefer on seeing a boxer
which is on the humble side and not just good with pure talks but i had to admit that Casimero could really stood on into his own words.
You got a point but lets see if this provokes would work against Inoue once they faced into the ring. Being confident isnt bad but if it is way too much then it doesnt really look appealing

or pleasant at all. For now they must settle out their current matches first and we might be seeing this to be in next in line.

Just an update of the exciting fights we will see soon.

we are going to see 2 big fights for the month of August.

August 14, 2021 - Casimero vs Rigondeaux
August 21, 2021 - Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr..(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339133.0)

Let's hope that the Filipino fighters will be victorious.

@mirakal.. do you think it's nice to parlay this two?

Manny will be the underdog and Casimero might be a slight favorite.

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look, Casimero already started his training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZyIDSH2kT4

Good idea, putting some spare to parlay this two fight might bring a better winnings,  As a fan I would love to see both fighters to win against their opposing fighters.
Casimero have the edge as you mentioned while the fighting politicians might have a tough job to fight against the Younger Spence Jr.

Exciting to wait and watch this fight better to save some crypto for this events. Good Luck!

Mate I watch the video, this is not the latest video, you might not see the year it's dated "May 24, 2020". I think that is the preparation against Tete. \



For fun it's a good idea, just put a spare amount on that as parlay in reality gamblers has a lower chance of winning.

That's a bit bias though but seeing how Pacquaio isn't who he was before, I think it is a bit of a 50/50 for Pacquiao versus Errol Spence while I think that Rigondeaux can dominate Casimero, Casimero is good but I don't think he has enough experience on big stage.

I disagree about Casimero lacking enough experience on big stage. Did you know that he travel to the champions country and beat them? And of course there will be hostilities and riots, just search the video on youtube and you will find them.

But I agree on the Spence vs Pacquiao, it's 50/50 and hard to see Manny beating a prime Spence unless he got his signature left that Spence wasn't expected.

Why not? I'm sure that it will give us a good odds, but we have to wait for a week before we can see if our bet won or not.

Still a long way to go though, I haven't seen any public media day for Casimero and see how he is as far as training goes or even Rigo.  Casimero though is really full of confidence in this fight and for sure will try to go for a ko.

This shows or proves out that you arent really that much following Casimero in regarding into his own fights and regarding or talking about world stage.
This mans achievement isnt something that you can just ignore on yet basing off with statistics then i can say that Rigondeaux would be fighting
some small fry which you can say about domination.Lets see on how these things to turn out on the fight day.

Add more leg in your parlay.

we have 4 fights this year, if you bet on the Filipino fighters, you can parlay the following fighters to win.

1 Nonito Donaire
2 Dasmarinas
3 Casimero
4. Pacquiao

Rigondeaux was one of the skillful figther before, but age will always slow down a fighter. However, he is the kind of fighter who you don't want to underestimate.
The last time I watched him box against Loma, I can say his footwork slowdown a bit, maybe because Loma is more younger and faster than him, but Rigondeaux hands speed was still there, though the power had been reduced a little bit but he can still deliver a good counter punch.

Casimero on the other hand is still hungry to fight and younger. So, yeah he might be the favourite for this match.
He as well seems to be enjoying vlogging and messing around with non-boxer YouTuber lol.

Rigondeaux has learned his lesson the hard way, he goes up in weight, but he challenges the champion right away, that did not help him, so he decided to come back to his original weight and challenge a champion, this is good for boxing, Rigondeaux career is not over yet though he is not getting any younger anymore.

Exactly, and he will not go up anymore, probably will retire in the bantamweight division but his career is not yet over if he will win against Casimero.

odds are available, and it's Casimero who is the favorites.

https://champinon.info/schedule/rigondeaux-vs-casimero/

@Questat. how do you convert that odds into american odds or asian odds?

I'm a little bit confused right now.

1/1 is equal 100%, while 2/1 is 200% if divided.  :-\

You can use this calculator https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

The computation you made seemed right, but there was an error in the article, instead of 2/1, that should be 1/2 which is equivalent to 1.5 (decimal) or -200 (American).

Thanks, it's easy to convert the odds using such a calculator. We will try to look for another source regarding the odds, it might be a typo error.

This site https://www.foxsports.com/boxing/results?id=259 is more accurate but it does not provide the odds yet, so maybe that betting odds is not really accurate, otherwise, we will see another source that tells the same.

Until we see it in a legit sportsbook, that betting odds is just always a prediction.

This fight is scheduled on August, maybe it's too early for the odds to get listed and it's not as big as the Pacquiao vs Spence Jr. Fight, so we have to wait.

Exactly, but for me, Casimero will be the favorite to win because of his speed and punching power. And then he can back it up when he trash talk. For sure sportsbet will cover and open a line for us. Not as a big fight like Pacquiao vs Spence, but still everyone is excited to see a boxer like Casimero taking a very defensive fighter like Rigondeaux.

This is a big fight for Casimero, maybe not as biggest as the Spence vs Pacquiao because Casimero's standing in the boxing world is lesser than Pacquiao and we know that Pacquiao is very popular. We should be seeing a great fight again as Rigondeaux is a defensive fight and we are going to witness on how Casimero will break his defense and get this win.

Looks like this fight isn't happening and instead it will be Nonito Donaire facing Casimero.
https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-replaces-rigondeaux-face-casimero-118-pound-unification-fight-august-14--158519

This is a more interesting fight because it will be a unification and it is between two Filipino fighters.

This is not good, Filipino fighter vs Filipino fighter, I think it would be nice if they'll dominate in that division and not fighting each other. Well, I guess that's just a rumor because the fight was already scheduled, and I'm not sure if their promoter would allow that kind of fight though.

This is a new article so it could be legit, however, it's just right to wait for the confirmation of Casimero and Donaire about this fight because this is the first time I saw both Filipino champions are going to fight against each other outside the Philippines. Anyway, I believe it's a great fight, both fighters are great but I think the young fighter will win this fight, and that is Casimero.

There are lots of sources now stating Casimero vs Donaire is legit so maybe that was official.

But what I'm thinking is, why all of sudden, it was changed? It should not be changed as the fight is officially inked or contracted. I don't know the reason but the timing is not good knowing Casimero is already prepared for a match against Rigondeaux.


I don't see it as interesting because of the fact that PH vs PH.

I'm against the fight but that was a unification is all about and a boxer should comply with that, in favor or not to their oppponent.

Will follow what will be the update for this match.

It will not unite the fans, and this might be the start of the PH vs PH in boxing as there's a lot of PH boxers that could win a championship, now, what would happen if Dasmarinas will also upset Inoue? And that fight will be scheduled today, so let's also watch it because there are still not betting odds yet.

Ohh man, i just can't believe this is happening. Unlike Mexicans, there is not a lot of Filipino champions in boxing so this is big news in the Philippines.

If this is the path to unifying the 118lbs belt then i think i would go for Quadro Alas here because of youth, that's all.

You guys believe that Top Rank got a hand of this?  ;D

This is advantageous to Inoue as he will only be fighting once to unify the belt, not twice anymore.

@Baofeng Japinat, need to change the title of the thread bro hehe.

True, and after he will beat Dasmarinas, then we will only have to fight one boxer to get all the title into his hands. What if Donaire would win against Casimero? Then more on his advantage as he already beat Donaire once in an exciting fight.

Or probably lock this thread for good.

But regarding your questions, yeah, I think Top Rank has something to do with it, putting 2 Filipinos against each other before chasing Inoue. So it's like a shortcut, whoever wins on the Donaire vs Casimero fight, will already have 2 belts. Then obviously Inoue has the other two. So it will be unification next. So Inoue has all the advantage already. And probably Top Rank saw this opportunity and maybe push for Donaire vs Casimero first.

I think that they are talking about a different type of unification and there's no such thing as united Filipino fans, everyone thinks they're better than the other. I think that having an all Filipino match up in the international stage is interesting because we will be able to settle the old questions as to who is going to be the strongest fighter of our country.

Unavoidable though, Filipinos are lucky that they have 2 champions in this division. And eventually a PH to PH has to happen. Of course, the only winner here is the Philippines, but as far as fans is concern, there are fans of Casimero and then there are fans of Donaire. But the winner will take on Inoue so it's good that anyone of them will have a crack and unified all the belts.

You said it right, both sides Pinoy fighter will win, it's all on the fans to take side.

The good thing here, both fighters are great and both have that chance to fight against Inoue and take the belt, Donaire though already
have that experienced but for sure there's a  lots of adjustments coming from his camp if ever that he take this fight and the rematch
take place.

I think this thread should be lock already, the fight is not going to happen anymore.

We have a new fight, Casimero vs Donaire, and it could be Inoue vs Rigondeaux, who knows.
Actually, this fight is also great but both Filipino champions decided to fight each other so there will be one left as a champion or representative of the country in a bantamweight division.

Hmmm.. I forgot I'm the OP, yes, I agree with you,  I need to lock this thread temporarily and will just reopen it again if this fight will have a possibility of happening again. Casimero vs Rigondeaux is also a great match-up, but let's wait on the outcome of the Donaire vs Casimeor fight.

Thank you everyone for participating in this thread's discussion.

Thank you @bisdak40 for sending me a message, this fight will push through so the thread is unlocked now.  :)

Yes it will push through but I like the Donaire fight because he will be tested how good he really is, Donaire with his big performance in his last fight will give Casimero a tough fight than this Rigondeaux fight, Rigondeaux is an aging fighter he is not the same Rigondeaux that beat Donaire in their first meeting.

Yeah, I second that I've found some news that this match will pursue. So after this match on August 14, we've got to watch another great boxing match between Pacquiao and Spence on August 21. That's true entertainment for boxing fans but let's all talk about Casimero and Rigondeaux. Casimero got more experience and fights and younger than Rigondeaux. But Rigondeaux got also a good record, I'm not familiar with him but this won't be an easy match for Casimero, any insights to those that have followed both fighters?

It won't matter though, long as the fight is entertaining and they are doing good with what they are doing I think that it's going to not matter to many that it's both Filipino fighters because it's a good show hopefully.

So what happens now? Is it a Casimero vs Donaire or a Casimero vs Rigondeaux? Kind of hoping it will be an all Filipino match up but I guess going to the original isn't going to be that bad at all.

As per the news, Casimero vs Rigondeaux is now a go after Donaire canceled his fight with the former.

The All-Filipino match-up will still be possible if both fighters will beat their respective opponents but I doubt Donaire can do it, it's one hell of a climb.

This original match-up is both beneficial to Donaire and Casimero as this means more money for Donaire while buying some time for Casimero before his shot on the unified title.

Thanks a lot, was looking forward for that all Filipino clash but it seems that we won't be seeing that anytime soon although I am pretty sure the undercard matches will feature some all Filipino bout. And you are right that it will be more worth it since the climb is grueling for both sides.

At least we still have another Filipino champ here going to fight Rigo and hopefully this fight is going to push through as schedule and no more delays. Still the exciting Casimero will be the favorite, and I wanted him to destroy Rigo in this fight. So that there will be no doubt about him facing the winner of Inoue vs Donaire. And it could be inevitable to see Filipinos unifying the belt if Casimero and Donaire wins.

Nice that this thread has been opened, I'm looking to bet early in this game but it seems until now the betting odds are still not available.

Anyone here knows what crypto sites had already opened this fight for betting?

There are no betting odds yet because this isn't a big fight, maybe a big one for the Filipinos but it's not popular in big countries. Inoue is the most popular in the bantamweight division but in his last fight, we also did not see betting odds, so let's hope we will see soon as the fight is approaching.

Any update about their training?

Also, I'd be happy to see some of your predictions back with support and explanation. :)

Good to know that the fight will push thru but like what you just mentioned, this is just a week earlier before Pacquiao against Spence.

Which surely the boxing industry are preparing, not sure with the impact if it's good or bad fighting before the big events, for gamblers and fans though

there's nothing than seeing fights that gives you place your bets and enjoy watching your idol fighting.

The timing is just right, besides, this fight will not compete with Pacquiao vs Spence, and as long as the promoter will make money on this fight, it will be alright. if this fight will not be postponed, it's possible that the winner will get a fight this year also, or early next year. IMO, we will not see a KO if Rigo wins but definitely a KO if Casimero wins.

Im rooting for Casimero to win but its not going to be easy I think. Rigondeaux in his previous fights are not an easy opponent showing his strength and his fast move, Casimero need to condition himself and think of strategy to have an edge over Rigon. This is a fair fight and unpredictable.

August is the month of Boxing this year since we will have great fights in its weeks and finally, we can see those fighters that we haven't seen for a long time fight. looks like the fight between Casimero and Donaire will gather so much attention since those two don't like each other and also they both like to trash talk before they step in the ring. Too bad that it won't gonna happen since this one is favorable. Casimero should win every single fight until he will meet with Inoue.

It's good to see those predictions with good explanation aside from being an avid fan of this two fighter.,

Both fighters have their own style of fighting but if speed is an advantage Casimero have that edge, he's still young and if being conditioned well with his aggressiveness and his stamina, Rigo might have some big problem with this young Champ.

I watch Rigo's last fight with Solis and if that the same fighting style that he'll going to bring against Casimero it might not work.

The impact shouldn't be questioned for every boxing fight. These two got already their names but not as exploding as the next fight that I've mentioned since it's a living legend that's going to fight. As long as there's a big fight for these names, the impact would be for sure going to hit big and we're all winners when there are events or matches like this that have come together with one after another. That's what we really want as boxing fans, to watch more fights from known boxers and real boxing action.

Rigo is more of a defensive power, and I would say that he is no longer in his prime, he is old already and that might affect his reflex and speed. And Casimero, with his aggressive can land some good punch on Rigo's chin and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes down, or become so defensive that it will be a boring fight or maybe he will quit on his stool just like when he fought Loma.

I think everyone is rooting for Casimero to win, he is so brandish and arrogant but he can bring that talk in the ring and possible to knock out Rigo here. If I'm not mistaken, there were a lot of word war in the social media prior to this fight. So it makes this match very exciting and for sure Casimero will be bringing his A-game. And I do hope that Rigo still possesses that speed and we might see him frustrate Casimero on some rounds because he tends to turtle up and play "you can't hit" me.

Age gaps that may slow this fight, if Rigo will continue being defensive and Casimero will just do some jabs

then move back, it's indeed a boring fight. Not unless Casimero will take this one and continuously attacking Rigo putting him to make some open, But who knows, maybe Rigo's camps scout Casimero and now preparing on how to counter every aggressions this young fighter will bring to the ring,.

If he beat Tete who made the same strategy, I guess Casimero can do the same on Rigondeaux. I don't know if Rigondeaux is still fast, but as he is aging now, we should see some decrease in speed and power, and Casimero should take it as his advantage. Casimero knows how to make the right timing, so he'll get this one.

Casimero seemed to be very confident.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-sees-easy-fight-vs-rigondeaux-predicts-knockout-victory

Yeah he's way too aggressive and i bit get irritated for those boxers who do talk much. Easy fight?
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-sees-easy-fight-vs-rigondeaux-predicts-knockout-victory

I dont see for this to be an eas y fight even Rigondeaux isnt really that aggressive but he wont reach out those stats or numbers for nothing.So he shouldnt really be that too confident.

I also believe it will not be an easy fight for Casimero as Rigondeaux beat Donaire once, therefore we cannot underestimate him. However, I like what Casimero said because he is confident and anyone who backs him to win would be happy with that, and I'm pretty sure, he keeps training hard, so just consider him being aggressive as just his style in trying to sell the fight and intimidate his opponent.

I just hope that once it turn out to be a boring fight, Casimero will still turn on the heat even if he can't hit Rigo because he will become so defensive because he is afraid of Casimero big punch.

Rigo is a Olympian so he is use to this kind of slow and deliberate fight and will just go for the knockout if it presents itself. That's why others see his fight boring. On the contrary, Casimero, we all know how aggressive he is and always looks for a high light knock out. So two contrasting style.

Casimero always likes to do trashtalking which is not typical for a PH boxer. He already trashtalk Naoya Inoue before even there is still no plan they will be fighting each other someday. He even trashtalk a fellow PH boxer.

According to some close people around Casimero, he is a good and kind person in real life. He just feels that whenever he has an upcoming fight, it won't generate good revenue and PPVs so in return, he is marketing himself by creating sounds thru trashtalk.

He can be a valuable boxer and the community will surely watch him, even globally, just by defeating those big names. No need for trashtalk but if that's his style then we can't do something about it. He just needs to prove it in the actual fight.

I also believe for that reason, it's not necessary their boxing life is the same as their normal life. These guys have a personal life as well and most Filipinos especially coming from poverty are humble. He is named "Angas ng Pinas'... I like the name, at least we have someone who is good and a trash taker as well, it's very rare from Filipino boxers.

Filipino or not then i dont like trashtalking kind of behavior even though its intentional or for the sake of marketing or hyping the fight but it do really looks unpleasant for me.
For some this might really just add up some spice for the upcoming fight but i do much appreciate for those boxers that their own fists would do the talk and that is much
more appreciable compared on doing of lots of talks but i do understand on how this business works.So lets deal with it.

Well, everyone has their own opinion, but these boxers understand that selling the fight is very important and since Casimero doesn't have big fights, so he might think being a trash talker will change that. He trashed talk anyone, not only Donaire but he still gets the support of Filipino fans.

Anyway, Casimero had beaten champions, but Rigo is a big one, he has to win convincingly so he'll gain the popularity that he wants.

Based on the record of all his fights including this fight ( https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916), Rigondeaux has the best record.

I think we are reading on a different page. Try to browse some sports groups on Facebook and browse during the time of the controversy between Casimero and Donaire. Casimero is heavily criticized by the commenters and I only saw a few people supporting Casimero.

Their point is, Casimero might be popular in the Philippines but globally, he's just a medium fry that's why people want him to be humble as he didn't even reach yet a big stardom in his career even he is a titleholder.

And there's a possibility that it would happen Rigondeaux is on a mission to do that, Casinmero should not take Rigondeaux lightly he is facing a two-time world champion who once beat Donaire, if we can see Rigondeaux in his old form, Casimero is in big trouble, I'm betting on Casimero but Rigondeaux is very much capable of putting up a fight and an upset.

casimero is not yet a big star in boxing. so he needs to tame down himself. otherwise, if he will continue to be arrogant, i dont think he will gain loyal followers outside of his country. every boxer should not underestimate their opponent. because he can only taste their power once inside the ring.
but in any case, if casimero emerges as the winner on this match. he may ask for the inoue fight. and maybe earlier than inoue-donaire re-match...

The undercards are now formally announced:

Main Event
Guillermo Rigondeaux vs John Riel Casimero

Undercards
Gary Antonio Russell vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez
Rau'shee Warren vs. Damien Vazquez

These are some of the notable fighters in the bantamweight division that's also worth watching.

I think he is already a star, the problem is that he is campaigning in the lower weight division which doesn't get the attention like the 147 lbs and up. And then he is also non-American, so he is not yet a household name in the US except maybe for the Filipino community.

He can still gain fans around for his arrogance, until he faces a loss in his career.

I'm not aware that Rigo is training with Ronnie Shields now, another good boxing coach/training.

I believe as well that he's already is a star but I don't if this is his way to sell himself from the crowd or nature to him but most arrogant guys ended up not good. Better to lie low a little and keep that arrogance once he's on the arena already fighting his opponent not when they're not yet starting.

Is it good if he moves to another division after this fight?

The age gap is really huge as only Pacquiao so far has proven the age gap is not an advantage to his opponent. Rigondeaux is older than Casimero, so he has a lot of experience, therefore it's his advantage and Casimero has to read the movement of Rigondeaux effectively in order for him to hit him with some clean shots. Rigondeaux is a type of fighter that moves a lot, you can't hit him if you will just stand and throw some predictable punches.

It wouldn't really matter on the age but rather on overall fight count which is 20-1-0 which is really impressive and cant be really reached out by someone easily on the industry.

Even Casimero is experienced on this one in terms of total fight counts but doesn't mean that he would really be precisely winning this one.
He shouldn't really be that too confident.

I don't like on being too tactful before the fight but since its part of the marketing then I do just simply ignore it.

That's right, it's all about the marketing and most boxers seemed to understand that if you trash talk, you will get the attention of the people and they will watch the fight because they are curious. Casimero is not yet a popular fighter, so it could be his way to introduce himself to the public.

Casimero's promoter said this, different from what Casimero said.  ;D

https://www.boxingscene.com/casimero-promoter-rigondeaux-tougher-fight-he-beat-donaire--158943

Casimero should train hard for this upcoming fight.
And high likely that if he will beat Rigo, he can easily get the Inoue fight.
Casimero is also under Pacquiao's camp, so hopefully, he can learn a thing or two under this camp.
Trash talk is common strategy by boxers to sell their fight but should not hit below the belt because you also need to respect the other boxer.

Thats right, beating Rigon will give his career a level up to have a much popular and strong opponent like Inoue, this is his chance to prove himself that he is not an ordinary boxer that some people looked down.

It can give heat and popularity to their upcoming fight so its not surprising if boxers are trash talking each other, a strategy to attract audience.

You are right, he needs to win by spectacular fashion to get a nod from the boxing fans. But Casimero is just breaking on the US soil, mostly his wins is from outside of the US that's why his name doesn't have a ring except maybe for those who have followed his career.

But since he become a world champion, he has been destroying his opponents by KO. And he should done this as well to Rigo to gain some noise and not to trash talk his way in.

He is doing the other way around, he should first establish himself first before all these talks, win against Rigo and Inoue then he can challenge everyone and be very boastful, in terms of records Inoue and Donaire has a better record yet these two boxers are gentlemen inside and outside the ring, he should walk his talk.

yeah right, established first before you talk too much. Donaire and Inoue are far better as of now but we don't know
 if he can really knock them down.

He needs to finsihed this fight against Rigo with a high noise a K.O will bring more interest from promoters and other known camps,.

Wait till this fight have the outcome and see who's going to get the hype.

Time changes, so people changes as well. We may don't like Casimero's attitude but it's not our concern anymore, our concern is for him to give his country honor but winning his fights, because of Boxing, we are more recognized in the world, thanks to Manny Pacman for being a legend and hopefully, there's another boxer that will continue to reign in the boxing world.

We have Donaire and Casimero now, but Casimero is still at his peak so most likely he will be the successor though I don't think he will become an 8th division champion.

He's more younger than Donaire so basically the chance of continuing to this sport is more longer and favorable to him,

Just need to carefully reached the top, doing it with humbleness the same way Pacman and Donaire did. Both Legends are still well-known from those achievements that they've brought to our country and even they suffered losses the respect and love still there for each Pilipino fans.

Let's focus with this incoming fight and not with the attitude, still carrying out flag and hope to see him bringing it on top!

There are only a few updates regarding this fight, I hope both are really busy training on this fight so we will see great competition. I'm checking my bookies now and it seems like odds are still not available, for a championship fight, I guess the betting should be up early, but we still have no idea on how bookies sees this fight.

So far no news yet, so we have to wait and see if this fight is going to happen.

Perhaps they want to keep the detail in secret for now, but I do think that this will eventually happen since Donaire vs Casimero is no longer happening, and then Inoue just came from a big victory.

So won't see any odds on the bookies because the fight is not officially announced.

After the disappointment and cancelled match between Casimero and Donaire, they both in contact with other boxers to fight with them, and both of them are still waiting for the official announcement if they'll be having a match or not.

There's not odds yet for Casimero and Rigondeaux, though it should already be finalized and as per OP it's already secured so I'm also wondering why it is not available, the fight will happen in the next two weeks no updated news yet.

Let us not think yet of the Casimero vs Inoue fight as Casimero has to beat Rigo in order for him to be given a chance to fight the king of the bantamweight division. he needs to focus in winning the fight as Rigo is not an easy opponent, and if he wins, then they can be in business if Inoue's promoter will find the fight against Inoue will bring a better revenue.

Some of us here already assumes that Casimero will beat Rigo, it's because Rigo is old already and Casimero is so powerful. We will actually see it next month or less than a month if their fight will not be canceled. I'm not worried about these two as both are very serious with their training, I'm just a bit worried if I will see an explosive right or not as Rigo is known as a defensive fighter and he might just run like Mayweather.

Hope to see a toe-to-toe fight here. Mayweather's style is really not good for the most fans in boxing. Most of us want a real rumble here. Since Casimero is quite the younger boxer here, a lot are expecting that he can easily win this fight. But no odds yet from sportsbooks?

Toe to toe? I doubt if it can happen since Rigo's style of being a defensive boxer won't change in this fight.

Casimero will do a lot of chasing while Rigo is in his runner's shoes come fight night.

Casimero is calling out Rigo in his social media account, enticing the latter to come out of his shell so the fans would not be sleeping as it would be boring if Rigo will do the run and hug strategy.

Rigo is hard to hit in his younger years but with father time catching on him, I think he slowed a lot and later in this fight, Casimero would catch him and finally send him to retirement, just my thought  :).

i believe Casimero will do the aggressive approach here. Rigo's style is like Mayweather. but wondering why bookies are not listing this yet? is the fight not getting a lot of attention from bookies? because other fights like Joshua vs Usyk, which will happen this sept is already in their list. but i guess, bookies may favour casimero here.

When you had mentioned about retirement  then i did check out his age and he's already 40 of age and does still have that 20-1-0 record which i can say that it isnt really bad at all but
in overall number then its just really in too far gap with casimero. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

If he's style is just like mayweather then this wont really be that much of a problem yet Casimero is an aggressive fighter but lets see if there would be some changes in fighting style
of Rigo on here.

Toe to toe is something that i cant really still believe to happen but lets see.

Usually, the lower weight doesn't get that much attention, but I'm sure as we approach the fight, bookies will cover this one for us. And also remember that this is two non American fighters as well. I'm not saying that sport bookies are biased, but most of the time, high profile fights that you mention have been highly anticipated.

Of course, this fight is very intriguing, an aggressive fighter vs a defensive one. But Rigo is also old and he might lost some of this reflex, just saying.

Casimero throws a punch statement again against Rigo, well his usual style. :)

“When I beat Rigondeaux on August 14, he’s going to retire. He’s finished,” – Casimero
“I can guarantee that everyone is going to see the best of me on August 14. I perform best under the bright lights,” – Rigondeaux

Rigo is the slight favorite to win the match but some analysts are looking forward for Casimero's win via TKO on which I doubt will happen. For sure Rigo's defense will be surely more prioritized as he's not like before wherein he can throw strong body shots to his opponent while doing some good defense.

I'm glad that they both want to prove something on this fight, this is very important for both fighters for Rigo a chance to come back again and capture the old glory, for Casimero a chance to prove that he is the best in his weight division even though on the other organizations a monster is ruling it, I expect a knock here hopefully Rigo will come to fight and stand toe to toe against Casimero.

The best venue is the ring and the outcome of the fight will conclude the statements of both fighters.

Don't know if that just another part of advertisements and publicities, bringing the attentions of the fans and those who are waiting for this fght to take place, but  like what you just said, both fighters have their reasons to eagerly win this fight and prove their worth from this sport.

Surprised to see that Rigo is the slight favorite here, but it's going to be close, and yes Casimero has all the tools to knock out Rigo with one punch here. Yes Rigo can play defense the whole match, but it will just take one touches on him by Casimero to change the whole fight plan of him or the outcome of the match. Rigo no longer has that speed for a quick body punch, reload and then play defense. The chin of Casimero is also solid.

How can we say that Rigo is the slight favorite if the betting odds are not available yet?

What are your bases guys, I would like to know, maybe I missed something?

Actually, I've been waiting for the odds to be available already in my favorite bookies, but until now it's still not up.
So I would only believe Rigo is the slight favorite if I can confirm it through the betting odds.

I don't know how he becomes a favorite here I like to see the betting odds link where Rigondeaux is a slight favorite I think it's the other way around, this is a very important fight for both boxers Rigo is highly motivated I think he is more motivated now than the Loma fight because he is underestimated, we'll see if he will stand toe to toe against Casimero and proves he has the power and that power is more powerful than what Casimero has.

i believe it is only based on discussions as no bookies yet are listing this match. but checking some articles like this  one  (https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-odds/), it says that rigo is the slight favourite here.

but it may change as some boxing analysts are looking at Casimero to win on this fight. maybe at the end of the month or early next month, we will see the odds hopefully in crypto bookies.

Depending on how reliable the site is, if they have a good reputation then I think we will likely see similar odds once it's listed in the sportsbook. Well, if you'll ask me, I like the betting odds of this fight as I'm betting on Casimero to win, +200 is a gift against an old champion versus a fighter that is in his prime.

I assume you are betting on a fiat-based sportsbook here, as no crypto sportsbook has listed this yet.
The odds right now is good if you are betting for Casimero, whom I voted also to win this match.
As a younger boxer in this match, he has advantages but his reach is quite shorter than Rigo.
But do you think we will see toe-to-toe here? Rigo may just run and hug here.

Casimero to Rigondeux: Let’s engage‍ and fight (https://sports.inquirer.net/430308/casimero-to-rigondeux-lets-engage%E2%80%8D-and-fight)

Another shot again from Casimero throwing a statement to Rigo.

This time, Casimero wants Rigo to fight him blow-by-blow. Meaning more pure punches to entertain the crowd. However, that should be Casimero's task, how to break Rigo's defense. There is no way Rigo will change his style. So if Casimero wants that solid exchange of punch, he should find a way to make Rigo not rely on his defense and will also put some show too.

"Rigondeux, fight me. Don’t run. I want a fight, you know. Because Rigondeux runs. People who are watching are sleeping." :D

this is quite a challenge for rigo. but don't think that he will change his style, just like mayweather. there's a saying that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". so yeah, it is casimero's task to let Rigo engage during the fight. if casimero is really up to this game, he needs to finish the match in the first few rounds. don't let the fight go the distance, because rigo may just be counting here with points.

Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.
Casimero is a good boxer as well as Rigondeaux, they both have different style of fighting. I don't think Rigondeaux would be changing his distance and mitigation against an aggressive and offensive fighter.
Nevertheless, we somehow need trash talking sometimes to spice up the match lol.

We know that Casimero never runs, he is a true warrior, I'm so concerned with Rigondeaux's style as he might just run all night trying to score. For me, I believe Casimero will be able to slow him down as Rigondeaux is not getting any younger and Casimero is in his prime. With the months of training before this fight, I'm sure team Casimero had already prepared a strategy on how to beat Rigondeaux.

Anyone here who think Rigondeaux  would win?

I just voted now and saw the big disparity of votes.

Op's poll

So we can assume that in this discussion, Casimero is the winner, and since the majority have voted for Casimero to win, then I guess it's just we should be confident in betting on Casimero to win once the odds is available.

Yeah, majority do sees for Casimero to win but it isn't really that a precise thing for you to rely on when it comes to your betting decisions but it would really be a big factor to consider on.

Some factors are being spot out which is mainly on age where theres really some big difference which majority is presuming that its one of the reason of disadvantage

but Rigo isn't an opponent for you to get confident. Being aggressive is good but it would always be having those cons.

Probably most of the boxing bettors and those who voted are majority Filipinos that's why the big disparity in votes. On the other side, Casimero has proven himself already having a belt, being brandish and loud mouth but he can back it up.

But in boxing and in any other sports, a upset can happen, so it's not guaranteed that Casimero will win, but the chance are very high.

That's probably the reason but I think that without any bias, Casimero can win against Rigondeaux in this match, I mean the aggressiveness of Casimero might make up for the difference that ihe is lacking plus it's not like these votes are uneducated or just pure bias.

This is how boxers mostly react because at some point this is to hide their nervous facing a great contender lol.

Though casimero is well known on this kind of trashtalking not like other famous filipino boxers such as Manny Pacquiao and Nonito Donaire in which silent type until the fight comes.

I've read somewhere, (maybe here or some articles?) that according to Casimero's camp, his trashtalk is a way to promote the fight because Casimero itself doesn't know if he can generate good revenues from PPV or ticket sales. Maybe the majority of his fight wasn't able to yield good revenue. To confirm it (which I doubt sales aren't good) I will try to search for it or if anyone has statistics for it, I will be glad if it will be shared here.

No problem for trashtalks as long as he can prove it on the ring. It's just that it's unusual to see a PH boxer doing some trashtalk.

Casimero just trying to do everything to sell his fight, boxing is not forever, he understands that so he needs to do everything so his income will maximize before the time will come that he will retire. He has not made a lot of money in boxing yet, and he is in his prime now, so it's just right to promote his fight.

Maybe some do not like his style, but it's him, if we support our fighters, we should also promote him.
Pacquiao and Casimero are different in their style but their wins bring pride to our country.

Casimero has not lost a fight since 2018, and he is still young at 32 years old, so I will never doubt betting on him even if he will be listed as underdog in this fight. After his win in his last fight, this is the statement of Casimero.

https://sports.inquirer.net/405357/casimero-chasing-big-money-after-another-impressive-win


This means he wants big fights that will generate big money, and he needs to sell the fight to generate big money.
Rigondeaux is a good opponent, he is a champion so probably it will also bring big money to the fight, but the biggest in the division is Inoue, so he needs to take care of the business by beating Rigondeaux.

Its impossible for a boxer not to consider on making money and some would really be focusing on building some hype and some would just have those words casually since they do know that they can still purse out
without the need of those actings and trashtalking towards the opponent.This is something been part of the behavior of a certain boxer and lets see that if those provocative words would really be on real
and not just on pure talks but basing on Casimeros fight history then i can really say that he had really those words to say on since he's a better fighter compared to Rigo.

But some boxers are no choice sometimes so they will still accept small paychecks just to have a fight and build their names.

Casimero is a champion and I think he's already earning well every fight. He just wants more than his usual which might not easy to be granted since even for a champion, a name must be popular to make a market hype. A good PPV history is also a must so boxers are doing something interesting to sell the fight and that involves trashtalking the opponent.

That's fine if Casimero wanted to trash talk to generate revenues for his fight, Rigo is answering back so let's see what happens. The problem is that this weight category is not dominated by US based fighters that's why it didn't get any attention.

Maybe it will not be one of the highest fight as far as PPV number goes, for sure it will be heavyweight, Fury vs Joshua vs Wilder, or Canelo or Pacquiao, but we hope that we will see a good fight at least and not a snoozer when Rigo starts to play defense and runs against Casimero.

How many boxers has the same attitude as casimero? there are even more  trash talkers than him lol.

and besides boxing is a kind of sports and business goes together, for them to profit they must sell their games and how can they gain more watchers and followers and bettors ?

this way how casimero do it.

Can you elaborate on what you meant here? Is it something about the Casimero vs Rigo bout?

I'm confused here especially about that last line of your statement.

If you are giving suggestions about how to find a certain match thru a sports betting site, no need to input on the search bar. Just go to the sports category, simple as that and I think others are more used on that way.

Yeah, same here, I'm a bit confused as well.

If he is talking about the gambling site's connection about this fight, then I think he is wrong because gambling sites just provide the odds and they'll make money regardless of the outcome.  The bettors that will bet on the winner will make money, and those who bet on the opposite side will lose money, just that simple.

Exactly, bettors would love a bigger fight so they will generate bigger bets and that will not result in a bigger profit or commission on their end. You can beat the house if you are too lucky, but you can never bet the bookies as they accept bets from both sides.

Anyone who is interested in watching this fight in the arena, you can buy tickets now.

https://www.axs.com/events/407130/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-tickets

the price range at Price: $50.00 - $200.00 according to the link above.

Also, for live streaming, it's handled by showtime and I think it's not possible to avail a stream if you are in the Philippines.

https://www.showtime.com/#getstarted/live

The ticket price is not that expensive, but if you are not from US, you have no chance but just to watch the PPV stream. I'm sure it's not only SHOWTIME who has the PPV, maybe try to subscribe to your local cable, if they can secure a PPV they might broadcast it, but I'm also just not sure of its legality though.

Agree to that, doing trash talks creates attentions and that's how PPV wanted to cover,

if interest comes up from the viewers it will generate more money for both the providers and the boxers, knowing that they've got decent
shared profits every fight that promoters covered the fight. You need to build your name and create good attentions that not exempt even champions to do that to collect bigger paychecks.

That's what Casimero has been doing, but let's see if this time he will get a good paycheck, they have a PPV so we will know if how much they had sold during the fight. Can't wait for this big event, two Filipinos are fighting next month and I really hope for their success. Manny is underdog, and most likely Casimero will be an underdog too, if the odds are available soon for this fight, I'll likely put a parlay on it.

The fight is happening two weeks from now, I'm looking at the betting odds but there seem to be no betting sites that have offered it already.

this is the only website that tells about the betting odds, https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-odds/
However, for me it's not enough to confirm the odds are real.


Will we see these odds when betting sites start accepting bets?

This fight will become one of the greatest bases on the statistics and my perspective because most of us love to know about boxing too so we have different biases. Of course, we would like to support the boxer we want still enjoying the game with the gambling wage. Base on the performance of Casimero the game becomes harder and still, it's all about the will and the title. As for now, I didn't see any platform which is supporting the use of boxing gambling is there any already?.

What kind of platform are you looking for, if sports betting platform, we have a lot of bookies that are offering games, but unfortunately, this event is not listed yet. The fight between Pacquiao vs Spence was already listed a long time ago, but this one although two weeks only before the scheduled fight, it's still not available.

For boxing statistics, I don't have a lot of bases, I just use these.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989

But he needs to back up those talks if he cannot back it up and ends up getting knocked out, it will be a big embarrassment for him and we will become featured on many videos who about people bragging that cannot back it up, he will end up another Thurman who just embarrassed himself by too much thrash talks.

Casimero was just doing some trick to market his fight, and that is being arrogant so people will get interested in his fights, if he loses, he will be criticized but he will accept it, besides, his journey is not yet over as he is still young and he can still bounce back, but if Rigondeaux will lose, it could send him to retirement as he is not getting any younger. Rigondeaux is already 40 years old, there's only few gas left in his tank.

Yeah its business and it turns out that this is already been part of it on where trashtalks and provoking words would really act out as a thing that will hype out the fight which means it could potentially
raise up the interest and curiosity of people towards the fight in regards into its outcome but there would be some bad impressions to this which might affect boxers popularity or views towards him
basing into those words that had been thrown but since its business then those people who are already long into this industry is already aware on what are those kind of gimmicks
just to hype out the fight.

checking also the crypto bookies here but to no avail. i don't think they will list this match unless it will create noise just before the fight date. but if you really want to bet, either on rigo or casimero, just check your local bookie or other fiat-based bookie. because it seems crypto bookies are not interested to list this match.
casimero is training under pacquiao's camp, so let's see if he can get a thing or two from this camp that will make him a winner inside the ring.

Unfortunately, looks like ticket or PPV sales aren't showing a good result.

I tried to check some fiat bookies but I also can't find a market for it. Almost just less than 2 weeks before the fight. Let's see if there will be changes, maybe 2-3 days prior to the fight.

Even we send requests to sports betting sites on their respective ANN threads to list the match, they just won't add or consider it right away without a good reason why should they list it.

In this weight division there is Inoue and then there's everyone else. He is the cash cow, that's why they all want to fight him. Casimero and Rigondeaux are not very popular or well known in the United States. This might be a very good fight but the end goal for each fighter is to put themselves in a position to be Inoue's next opponent and get a big payday.

It's because they are two non-American boxers.


Unfortunately, maybe this think that the fight didn't get enough traction for US bettors. Only real fans of both boxers might probably the only bettors here. Specially Filipino fans of Casimero, but in any case the winner will get a big boost facing Inoue next.

Inoue gained the interest of most fans from US while Casimero and Rigondeaux may have local fans,

which far from gaining decent amount of money using PPV, this two fighters wanted to win to have that chance to fight against Inoue
and have a huge amount of money from sponsors and advertisers. Whoever take this will move up and have that chance and prove
something to increase the value of his name.

Before Inoue, Rigondeaux was already popular, so an Inoue vs Rigondeaux fight would also be a good fight to generate a good income. Casimero is just chasing good fights as he has not fought a big revenue fight yet, but since he is now under the MP promotion, his future is safe as long as he keeps winning.

Only 1 week now before the date of the fight, as of today, there's still not sportsbook that offers the betting odds of the fight.

I think our patience will be tested here as I'm sure just like me, you are also eager to put your bet, but we can't do anything since we don't control the bookies and it seems this fight is not so popular resulting in a lack of bettors interest.

I'm waiting for the odds as well, and I want to see the odds that were shared days before to be displayed in the bookies. That odds were good, Casimero was the underdog with +200 and I think anyone who supports the Filipino fighter will be happy to bet in this fight.

I'll definitely be on the side of the many Filipinos who are willing to support our very own, seeing our fighter as an underdog will only make us more eager to bet, and just like Manny Pacman who is also an underdog, I would not hesitate to take a bet using my gambling budget.

There's no much talk about this fight, though it's a championship fight it seems like people are not much interested in it, but we are.
Anyway, I wish everyone luck, and hopefully, we will win together.

You cant really expect that each fight would really be a talk in town but for fellow country men then it would really be a good fight to look upon and its true that both Filipino fighters are

underdogs which basically means that there would be some good odds for you to make bets and you can already think off about higher chance of winning despite that they aren't the favorites.

Lets see on how these bets turns out to make some nasty profits and it isn't really bad to consider on putting some bucks.

It's hard to conclude who is the underdog in this fight because until now the odds are still not available. This fight is a championship fight, both are champions fighting for unification, so this should gain attention from the real boxing fans especially for the Filipino fans who really love boxing.

All we see are just predictions on who will win and some are telling that Casimero is the underdog but they could not provide what bookies they are using as their basis. We will come down to the last day of the fight before we see the odds, it's killing the excitement as not everyone has the time to bet a day the fight is happening, or even before the day, sometimes, we love to put an advance bet so we will just relax and watch during the fight.

We do love it but we have no choice now because no betting odds that are out until now. Because I'm excited about this fight, I'm consistently checking the betting odds but it's not available, the fight will be this weekend, so it's nice to bet while watching, and I also like to see it available on the PPV from our local cable providers.

I've checked the seat slots and there are lots of vacant seats as I'm typing this. Or maybe the venue has a limited capacity? Sales aren't that impressive then there's a lack of marketing of the fight. The ticket sales are even considered as cheap with just playing around $50 - $200.

Out of curiosity, I've tried looking for the sales on Pay-Per-View but found no data about it.

4 days to go before the fight, not even a glimpse that sports betting sites, especially crypto betting sites, will list it. But don't lose hope, there are still a few days more.

We need to consistently check our bookies so we will be able to put our bet once the odds are up.

I'm looking for an option to watch it live and I found this site that can provide a PPV of the fight.
https://www.dazn.com/en-PH/news/boxing/boxing-schedule-fight-dates-tv-channel-and-live-stream-for-confirmed-cards/1l3zwnho1gotu17qp8l44fmww9

I tried to check the terms, and I found it not so expensive.

https://www.dazn.com/en-GLOBAL/l/sports/
https://i.imgur.com/4KK7zbc.png

Has anyone use this service already?

i don't think this fight will make it to crypto bookies just before the fight as it is only few days from now. but maybe try it checking in your local bookie or other fiat-based bookie. even bet365 doesn't have this match. only kambosos jr vs. lopez can be seen in aug 14 date in some fiat-based bookies. will just watch this bout if casimero really has the power inside the ring that can beat rigo and if he wins, maybe inoue will accept him as his next challenger.

btw, never tried the dazn service. will just wait for free streaming here. lol

Who is currently subscribed on Sky Cable here?

They always offer a PPV there like what they are doing always. Maybe it's cheap there compare to watching an international PPV provider.

Back on the fight between Mayweather vs Pacquiao, I paid Php999 pesos and all our neighborhoods watch it live at our home haha. With that figure, I expecting a below Php 500 for Casimero vs Rigondeaus fight.

When you are really a fan of  this upcoming fight then betting wouldnt  really  be that an issue even if you intent to bet on the last day before the fight happens because this would be the
best odds that you could possibly get.

About on the fight outcome then this  would really be still speculative approach for fans but basing off with statistics  then we can say that  Casimero does have the edge but bookies ends up for
Casimero to be underdog?

Dont know on whats their basis but lets take advantage for those who do love  to bet with Casimero.

I like to follow your advice but until now, I still have not seen any betting sites that are offering the betting odds of this fight, but I'm sure it will be available soon, so I have to wait maybe 1 day before the fight. For PPV, there's no local offering in our country unlike with the Spence vs Pacquiao where they also have announced the offering.

This fight is not so popular to the Vegas gamblers, that is why when the idea of Donaire replacing Rigo as the opponent of Casimero, they (promoters) took it because that time they already notice that fans are not buying the Casimero vs Rigo fight but unfortunate Donaire backs out of that fight because of some personal issues.

Let us just wait for a few days because I'm sure bookies will cover this one, just like the previous fight where they put the odds for Casimero two days before fight night.  

I was about to look for the odds, and as you have said, no one is offering this fight then I guess all we can do is to look for other options to bet. I used to bet on land base casino's, but since its close here, I might go with other route like fiat based (last resort). If I was able to bet on this one, then the best next option is the Pacquiao vs Spence. But for sure I will watch this fight with or without any bets.

John Riel Casimero vs Guillermo Rigondeaux - Casimero is the holder of the WBO world bantamweight title (53.2kg,, who will hold the belt, anyone dare to take the bet, are you counting on any of them, but I will definitely side with casemiro I'm sure Casemiro can beat his opponent, is there anyone here who dares to bet..

wow, that's so nice, but you need to look for an escrow to ensure funds are safe, if no betting odds of this fight will be displayed, then that's the only option we will get. However, who will be listed as favorites or underdog, would you take a 50-50 odds?

It's okay if there's no option, but I'm sure it will be available in our bookies soon, just like the previous fight of Inoue, and Casimero, the odds were avaiable a day before the fight, so everyone still has a chance to bet, right now, patience is always the key.

You can get a PPV subscription, you can find information if you search online, my online problem now is that the betting odds are still not available, it's sad but we have to wait for that odds. By the way, the fight between Manny and Spence has been cancelled or postponed, probably, so hopefully, that will not happen in this fight.

Yeah, time flies very fast and I never expect that it is really happening this Saturday  or 3 days from here on.Hopefully that there wouldn't be  any postponement of this fight because of some

reasons or alibis just like on what happened on Pacquiao vs Spence because of  some injury and  now its  been moved again.Despite on getting excited because  ive been betting on both

underdogs with good odds but still end up on being postponed.Hopefuly this  one pushes through and would give and  show a good fight.

Yeah, it's almost not noticed after the news about Manny and Errol got canceled but still they'll pursue despite the injury that Errol got. People shouldn't forget that there are still two noticeable fighters that are about to box. So what's the people are going to say with these?
Is there any change with your decision that you'll go for Manny or Errol?

Casimero is a great fighter and thankfully this fight will push through after so many dramas with Casimero. This weekend they’ll face each other, i know Casimero is a great boxer but his opponent is not an easy one with a title holder as well. This will be an exciting match, and the odds tells everything, I’m cheering for Casimero as well.

I thought Errol is replaced already by Ugas, so totally Errol is out of the game.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/8/10/22618826/manny-pacquiao-next-fight-errol-spence-out-yordenis-ugas-replacement-boxing-news-2021

However, talking about Casimero vs. Rigondeaux, I don't think this will make it to crypto sportbooks.
If you are really after for Casimero to win this fight, better look for your local bookie in the area.

Yes, Spence already been replaced by Ugas to fight Manny due to Spence torn retina in his left eye, he needs to step down to take good care of his health.


Almost 3 days left but there's still no available odd inside stake, and like what you have said, it might better to find a local bookie that offer this fight.

Crypto sports bookies is not interested or haven't got any pressure to cater this fight, maybe interest from US bettors is not high. ::)

What a turned of event this is the first time I see Manny Pacquiao's opponent backing out due to injury. Now he's gonna fighting Ugas which is the same scenario when he was fighting for the first time in America where he was also a substitute for someone who was unable to fight Ledwaba and he dominated the fight that time. He needs to be careful because they don't know how the guy fought in the ring as he might also get surprised.

Yes, it's not an easy fight for Casimero, as Rigo is also a champion and has been in many fights already, (a win against Nonito, then L to Loma).

But he is facing a different boxer here, Casimero is very aggressive, maybe not that technical compare to Loma but has more power than Nonito. So it will be a good fight for sure, but majority here thinks that it will be Casimero that will win this fight (including myself).

Manny and Erol is a different match and unfortunately we will not see them in the boxing ring, the replacement is great and very fast, I believe this is already expected to happen or at least notices the team of Manny weeks ago already.

Anyway, I can't also find a place to bet for Casimero, I'm wondering why because those two are also a great boxer and I'm expecting Casimero to win via unanimous decision. Looking at our local bookie, its not available as well.

If Casimero will fight carelessly then Rigo have the big chance to win, he's a defensive but explosive fighter which Casimero needs to remember.

He's also a Champ for nothing, if opportunities got opened grabbing it will not that hard for Rigo, But I'll go with Casimero to keep forcing and pushing any

available opening to hit his wild punch. It's going to be a boring fight if Casimero will fight the same way Rigo will do.

Betting odds are not yet available but I can already see the name of the two boxers in my bookie.

https://i.ibb.co/ng24GT7/odds.png (https://imgbb.com/)

you can follow this link so you can check from time to time.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo-611363bce37fe37930dcf191

edit , it's already available in stake.com.

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42107120-casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo

I personally prefer Casimero to be the winner in that fight, even though Casimero has a bigger burden to defend his title in that fight, but I think Casimero is a boxer who has quite good technique in dealing with his opponent, especially now Casimero has a high enough motivation after successfully defending the title after winning a technical knockout (TKO) victory over Duke Micah in September 2020.

As expected, few days before the fight, the match will be listed.

Currently: (stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42107120-casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo))
John Riel Casimero @1.44
Guillermo Rigondeux @2.75

Surprise with the gap of the odds. I've found no other betting options for the fight so for Casimero bettors, they should take that odds or leave it. Don't know though on other betting sites.

It is now listed on sportsbet as well although "Markets are currently not available.", but perhaps in the next couple of days they will also have the odds.

As expected Casimero is the favourite, but I do agree that it was someone like a one side for John Riel and that huge odd gap. Perhaps bookmakers or those who calculate the odds really thinks that Casimero will win the fight.

Good enough for the fans of Casimero, that kind of odd shows that bookies see some chance for Rigo most of the time when fighter dominate odd is lower than 1.20 with Casimero it's good enough to stake you spare money.

3 more days and we will watch this fight, going to place some of my remaining fund from stake, Casimero may win this one.

or, I'll wait and see if there's movement from the odds after being open, most of the time bookies adjust this one
maybe bets for Rigo will increase and odd for Casimero will pump up.

Yes, it's already changed and replaced by Ugas. What I'm asking is if your decision will stay that you're going still with Manny against Ugas or your decision will stay with Errol even he's no longer going to fight.
It's a quick replacement and I guess this will be remembered and going to be part of the history.

This is a unification fight, so Rigondeaux is also staking his belt in this fight, and whoever wins will earn 2 belts in the same division. In the first report, it was Rigondeaux who is the favorite but turns out here that Casimero is the favorite to win the fight, IMO, I like Casimero to be the underdog for better odds.

For those who had been eyeing for Casimero then having him in underdog would really be an advantage since odds were really that considerable for you to place some bucks on.
Even myself wasnt really that expecting that they put up Casimero to be underdog and have the thing on mind on what the heck they've been thinking off on making such decision?
Well, if it does this way then that would really be a good opportunity to make some profits.Im not underestimating Rigo but Casimero is much better than him and its just
right that aggressive kind of fighting would match up that defensive style.

With the current betting odds, I think Casimero is overvalued here, maybe his trash-talking makes him valuable but he is facing a very talented boxer who has a very impressive record. I'm thinking now, maybe I will just bet on Rigondeaux as the betting odds is really enticing. Anyone here thinking the same?

the odds are in already at crypto bookies

at  stake's odds  (https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42107120-casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo)
https://i.imgur.com/iF1BVkQ.png

at  bitsler  (https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/28608034-casimero-johnriel-vs-rigondeux-guillermo)
https://i.imgur.com/9GH3Aep.png

at  betja (https://betja.com/sport/boxing/world-fights-318137/john-riel-casimero-v-guillermo-rigondeaux-1594)
https://i.imgur.com/57g0IFe.png

at  FJ  (https://fortunejack.com/sportsbook?page=%2Fprematch%2Fhome%2Fleague%2F1370927)
https://i.imgur.com/Fybwbrw.png

sportsbet still in lock mode

so yeah, i really thought they will not list this bout but about couple of days it hits in the crypto bookies

edit : added FJ

initially, we thought rigo will be the favourite but days before the fight the situation reverses.

I think I'll go with stake although betja.com has the best odds, I have not gambled on that site yet so I couldn't trust my money there.

Thanks for sharing, it gives us a lot of choices on what's the best site to use when betting on this particular fight.



I'm waiting for the odds too to be available, I'll try to use my price boost and see if they'll give better odds than other sites.

Odd is already available and Casimero is not the underdog here but instead they gave him as favorite, if you read some post above harizen already shared the available odd inside stake and it's only 1.44 for  casimero while  2.75for Rigo.

If bookies did that pretty sure that there are many gamblers who will take his side for the ML, more younger and more aggressive

though Rigo is also a champ with different fighting style.

If you are aiming to bet, again Stake already place their odds and you can pick your favorite and bet on.

I like Casimero, but I'm gonna take this opportunity to bet against him, 2.75 odds are hard to resist, hey! this is Rigondeaux, the one who bet Donaire and other champions before, with only 1 lose, so I know it's worth taking the risk.

Maybe will skip betting for the fight. I like to put money on Casimero but not with that odds. I'm hoping for at least odds 1.7.

No way also to bet for Rigondeaux. Even if he wins, no regret not placing a bet for him.

Just have to watch the fight instead and just enjoy it. Lack of options to bet.

Yeah, unless there's more betting options, like what rounds Casimero will win or by UD or knock out.

ML is not that attractive to me, so if no other odds available, better to skip and watch the fight with your friends and enjoy. Lets see how a defensive guru like Rigo can avoid Casimero big bombs and how will Rigo react if Casimero tags him the first time. He already has a history of quitting a fight so maybe if he feels Casimero's power he might say "No Mas" again.

Yeah, I know though that Casimero might be the slight favorite.

But looking at how the crypto bookies with their opening lines, it's a huge gap in favor of John Riel.

So obviously, no ML for majority of gamblers because of the small returns unless you are a whale and willing to throw thousands of dollars in favor of Casimero.

Odds is not worth it I guess and this is a good decision, I'll also skip for this and just watch the match and support Casimero since he's from my country. I know Casimero has a greater chance to win on this match, but with that odds, it's really not good though you can still bet of course depends on your analysis. 2 more days before, August is a great month of Boxin hoping for Manny match to push through this Month.

Looking at the odds on Stake, I think it's attractive because the odds are not the usual 1.10 that they give for the favorite.

Anyways, we can wait for other options like Casimero by Decision or KO as that would be higher than ML.

I'm optimistic that Casimero will overwhelm Rigo from the opening bell and KO him in the later rounds.

That's what I'm waiting also, because if I will bet on Casimero to win, I would go for a KO for better odds, for now, the odds are not available so a little patience while waiting as eventually, it will come out. Filipinos supports Casimero but I have to admit, I'm quite nervous as his opponent is a real champion too.

If you are valuing your money, skipping might be the best solution and instead of waiting for you to win, just enjoy the beer watching with your friends or with your relatives.

Casimero might have that advantage since he's a heavy puncher and like what you said, chances that if Rigo feels maybe he won't continue and will decide to quit so no more further damage can be done to him.

My bad, I should take that early odd which gave Casimero 1.44 than what it is now.

Rigo is known for good defense which is totally opposite on what Casimero's style but he's not something that he should look down or underestimate.I was surprised that the odds were revised

and make out 1.40+ for Casimero and 2.xx for Rigo which it isn't really that too far off. I would also seek for another line of bet which would be mostly on KO win.

Adding up on betting for Casimero then that would surely be a worth to try out and of course everything isn't assured.

I guess the odds were not revised, the odds that were released before were not official since it's not coming from the betting sites.

During the Rigondeaux vs Donaire fight, Rigondeaux is also the underdog but Rigondeaux had a very good win dominating Donaire in the fight.
Here are the odds during that fight.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1603130-donaire-vs-rigondeaux-odds-preview-and-prediction-for-saturdays-title-bout

Nice information @Japinat.. Thanks, I never thought Rigondeaux was a heavy underdog that fight, I think he is really underrated as a boxer, not a trash talker so people would not know him, I think we might see some upset here as though Rigondeaux is aging, but he still remain with a great boxing record.

it's like Casimero fighting a legend here.  :)

Just a 3% drop, still worth it if you really believe that Casimero would win this fight.

Still on stake, and nothing on Sportsbet yet.
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42107120-casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo

No handicap betting yet, it might be available tomorrow since the fight is already in 2 days from now.

Waiting for the handicap betting as well, as I have said, ML is not that attractive and it the odds keeps on dropping, then surely not a good way to bet.

Speaking of handicap betting, what rounds you guys think that the fight will end? 8-9-10 for a Casimero win or 10-11-12 for a knock out?

Since there is no odd for the game then it's going to be an oral prediction. Both had outstanding records and unique fighting skills. None is going to be the underdog and from my review on that statistics I see this game as a draw.casimero winning 30 games and losing 4, while Rigondeaux with 20 wins and 1 loss. Predicting the outcome from games like this isn't really an easy task. For me it's a draw.

I think it will be 4-5-6.  :)... I'm thinking of almost the same scenario against Tete where he knocks him out in round 3, I will give Rigo 3 more rounds though. Anyway, I don't really count it, it's just for fun as I don't underestimate Rigo, but if he will get caught by a clean punch, we know what will happen to him.

The odds that you are looking for are already available.

Here's a complete odds of the fight. https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo-611363bce37fe37930dcf191

I'm thinking of betting on Rigondeaux to win by KO, that x11 currently, isn't it attractive?

The Odds are good but do you think that he can Knocked Down Casimero? who we knew being tough and stamina fighter?

Yeah the booking offers big winning but the chance is very little , He may win against casimero(though i doubt it) but the opportunity of Knocking him down is far from reality .

but of course that is your money mate and you will decide whom to bet.

I am for casimero tomorrow , hope you will choose the winning one.

There's a little chance that Casimero would be KO, but I also like the chances because Rigondeaux was so angry against Casimero. The trash talking of Casimero seems so effective, and according to him, 1-3 rounds, he will kO Rigondeaux and send him to retirement.

have some fun watching their face off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMrUTqMnkk

that's pretty hilarious. i didn't know Rigondeaux is a 2-time gold medalist in Olympics. quite an achievement already before his pro career.

casimero is very confident with his game, it boosts his confidence when he thought that the boxers back away from fighting him like he is the most fearsome in his division. he sometimes sounds too proud but i gotta say he is a tough fighter.

they both show sportsmanship by shaking hands in the faceoff though. i don't think Rigondeaux totally angry, he must have understood that this is a marketing promo.

Yes, he is one of the best Olympian that we had right now in pro ranks, the first of course is Lomachenko.

Casimero is really brandish and talks a lot of trash, but he can back up all his talking. Yes, as boxers you really need to have a thick skin or think that your opponent is just trying to promote the fight itself so that both of you will get a huge money in terms of PPV numbers, so it's all marketing unless you take it personally which might throw your concentration a bit because you are thinking of wanting to ko your opponent right away.

The Tete fight was also tough for Casimero but he went ballistic on round 3.

If Rigo is caught clean by Casimero, yeah possible that he will go down but maybe he can go up from the canvass and finish the fight. But he will go on full defense and turtle up just to last on this fight.

I'm sure this one hell of a fun fight, Casimero is so animated and then Rigo really focus and I would say that the trash talking could have been affecting him specially the 'retiring' word that Casimero is throwing on him.

Rigondeaux seems so confident too when you see their face-off, Casimero just trash-talking him and if he is affected, that is good as we will see a great fight. Casimero even said, don't run, lol.. he knows the style of a defensive fighter so it will be a gift to the fans if we will see a toe-to-toe fight because of the trash-talking of casimero.

You are right, lol. I thought at the beginning he was angry but when I finish watching, they shook hands in the end and looks like Rigondeaux is happy to have a good fight against a prime boxer Casimero. He also understands that people do not anymore believe he can still dominate as the odds are telling he is a big underdog.

Both are good artists, I don't even think that Casimero is really serious with his trash-talking, he was just smiling every time he talks, so it's really just part of the marketing strategy, nothing is serious here, what's serious is when they are in the ring and they'll give their everything.

In less than 24 hours, we will see the awaited fight.

Looks like the odds have moved a bit.

Casimero to win 1.55
win by KO 1.93
win by decision 6.00

Rigondeaux  to win 2.45
win by KO 9.80
win by decision 3.05

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo-611363bce37fe37930dcf191

Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  :D

I have already put up bets on 3.  :D

Casimero win
Win via KO
Win via decision.

Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

Most probably it's a KO win by Casimero, he won his last 6 fights through KO, so it's possible that the trend may continue. Just bet for fun as we don't know what would exactly happen, but betting on high odds makes this fight very interesting to watch.

There are no round ranges in the betting odds of sportsbet, I'm looking for a rounds 1-3, 4-6, so on and so forth bet. It's hard to predict in a particular round as Rigondeaux though does not have a high KO percentage is still very active in the ring, I think he is even faster than Casimero.

I will just bet for John Riel Casimero to win over Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero is the favorite here if you would look at what advantage does John Riel Casimero have over Rigondeaux you will see a huge difference in their experience, Casimero is just 32 Year old, but already have 34 fights, 30 wins and 4 loses, while Rigondeaux is age 40 does only have a total fight of 22, 20 wins and 1 loses, and if we look on the KO percentage 21 KO's (61.76%) and Rigondeaux 13 KO's (59.09%) Stake.com's odd is Casimero 1.52 and Rigondeaux 2.49 even though Rigondeaux has the height and reach advantage over Casimero, I still believe that John Riel Casimero will win this.

I'm also looking like in the middle rounds that Casimero will stop Rigondeaux. Timing is more important that speed and since you said that Rigondeaux doesn't have power and Casimero has a good chin, I don't see him putting a dent on Casimero here. The only problem I see is that if the fight goes to the distance, maybe Casimero doesn't have that strength because he also throw big punches that might drain him as the fight goes like 6-12 rounds.

If it goes to distance, that means Casimero is not hitting Rigondeaux that's why in the betting odds available, Rigondeaux has a lower odds which means he has a higher chance of winning the fight. Rigondeaux is a defensive fight, Casimero should find a way to hurt him and possibly KO him not later than 6 rounds.

Sometimes statistics doesn't matter especially when an opponent had a very good preparations to counter his fighting style.
Though, statistics is one of the sources to get the match up odds.
Well, I can say the odds are pretty balanced. But anyone who bets on Rigondeaux isn't a bad decision after all. I mean the old man will surely have his plan on how he's going to stand an aggressive fighter like Casimero.
However, Casimero's stamina is very vital for this fight If he decides to go for his usual aggressive style.

We have a few hours left before the fight. Good luck to ya'll bets.

Casimero is always been an active boxer, his timing is good and he is durable as well. I'm looking at the betting odds now, Suddenly there's a change on Rigo to win by KO, it was x16 when I open it, and now it's only x11.. anyway, I'm just saying, what I like now is the odds of Casimero at 1.56.

It's normal that it will move as we are less than 24 hours before the fight will start.

By the way, do we have a list of the undercard of this fight and if there is, do we have a betting sites that has an odds of the specific fights.

Betting on Casimero here so waiting also for the results of this match. It is nice that crypto sportsbooks list this just about couple of days before the fight. I thought it will not make it in crypto bookies. I hope they will give us at least an entertaining fight because Rigo has the tendency not to show a toe-to-toe one here.

See that sportbook as well and its a good thing since many are anticipating this match that will happen in a few hours. I’m placing my bet now on Casimero, he should win on this one and I’m confident about it, though KO might not be possible we will see, Casimero is a great and active boxer, he should do that in the ring later.

I have a feeling that this would be an entertaining fight even if Rigo refuses to come out of his shell because Casimero is a born entertainer. He might be cocky but he would do everything in his power just to fulfill what he had promised in the interviews. He bowed to knockout Rigo inside three rounds, we expect fireworks in the opening bell of this fight and that could be entertaining. 

Well, we as gamblers and we are  speculating what may happen inside the ring and giving the statistics are one of those things to simply know who's going to win, and added with their previews fights and comparing whos's their previews fights and comparing if they have a great performance with that fights, and this is a way to really know a boxer real potential,

I really think that John Riel Casimero will also take the aggressive stance to win against Rigondeaux the odds is really for Casimero and I think many are seeing the potential for John Riel Casimero winning this.

That's not how Casimero fights in the ring, Casimero sized up his opponent in the early rounds and measure the distance and the power of his opponent, he is good at finding angle and timing, and with Rigo, he will have to work hard because I expect him to run and avoid to engage, the outcome of the match depends on how Rigo performs will he run or will he engage.

I hope my favorite sports page will broadcast this match will post the link here when they posted the live event, I hope others will do too if they have a link to the live event, this is a must-see fight.

In the event that Rigo sticks to his usual style of defense while Casimero is gaining points attacking him, he has no choice but to open sometimes his defense to make way for his offense to gain points on that round. That's the time we can see a close bout on which Casimero is waiting.

Did you guys see the weigh-in? Looks like Casimero loses some of his fats lol. He is maybe more quickly than before.

He always looks like that in every weigh-in, he looks lean and means before the weigh-in and in the day of the fight he'll add weight to make him hit hard, both fighters are physically fit I hope both fighters will slug it out, no problem with Casimero he loves slugging big concern is Rigo if he opted to do hit and run, but with Casimero, this is not going to be a boring fight, he will find a way to catch him.

That hit and run strategy, damn. That's annoying but I know that every single anticipation has been made by Casimero and with his team. I just watched some of highlights with Casimero's and that gave me a boost and for sure he's going to show the same thing.
I agree that this fight won't be a boring fight.

Whenever he fought in the ring it just becomes a show time that's why he got popular with it especially when he got revenge on the dirty Thailand boxer. It was satisfying to watch despite how dirty that guy fights, Casimero still won via KO.

You can watch the highlight here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6c8crxhU8A&ab_channel=SportsEvolution

Yeah, it's the usual draining for fighters before the fight, but I think Casimero will rehydrate again and put some weight back, probably 5-10 lbs of water and fat and then he is good to go.

Rigo will always be playing defensive, but he also has a good straight left, but he doesn't have a strong knock out punch and maybe Casimero will just walk in take some shots and then bring his own power in the table.

Here's a link for those who want to watch it live I found it on Facebook enjoy the live match probably one of the most boring fights
 I have seen Rigo doesn't want to engage it's becoming a cat and mouse game but Rigo is hitting Casimero a lot https://www.facebook.com/harryradaza/posts/4317346671683942

Casimiro is good and sure he can beat his opponents with bets in front of us the level of expectation around us has increased several times. Hope to play better than the first bet we will go on the field to win that's how he prepared his team for the betting challenge the players have also worked hard in practice the whole team has reviewed the best possible way to defeat them. And the supporters of the two parties enjoy this virtual war much more than the supporters themselves the neutral spectators who do not support either party.

I reckon if Casimero shows the same type of aggression from round 10 to round 12, he might still have a chance to win this through a split decision. Rigondeaux is only bouncing away from his opponent. However, Casimero must also avoid the counter punches.

Casimero won the fight but not the kind of fight that we want to see, it's one of the boring fights I've seen and Casimero is so frustrating because Rigo is not here to fight but to run it should have been a unanimous decision because Rigo is out to run but still glad that he gets the fight, I think the Inoue fight should happen after this.

Fans show displeasure of Rigo that is why they are booing him.

You beat me to it, yeah it was boring as f**k, Rigo just ran all over because he has taste the power of Casimero in round 1. Still a good win for Casimero though, Rigo went to his old self, decided to play defense the whole fight and countering. It really frustrates Casimero obviously, but what can he do? Rigo doesn't want to engage and thought that he can won that fight with that strategy.

Really far from our expectations. So it was all trash talk from Casimero that he will put Rigo to sleep at early rounds. Same old same old with Rigo. Don't know what will happen to Rigo's career after this? But for Casimero, if he wants to give a good fight with Inoue, he better improve his training. Let us see how Inoue's camp will react on this. Can Casimero get the bout from Inoue?

Gotch Rigo  ;D.

What a running show and you can't blame him as he tasted the power of Casimero in the first round that convinces him to go back to his shell.

Yeah, should been a UD for Casimero, how can you promote such kind of a fighter if Rigo won that one.

https://i.imgur.com/m2T041E.jpg

Though not yet settled, is my ticket above a win? Decision win is UD and SD combined?

Well, that's how Rigondeaux defended himself to stand the whole match. We all know he had a huge chance of getting KOed if he goes head to head against a younger Casimero.
I know that fight was boring, but I guess that's just how Rigondeaux get a chance to win If he get the chance to see an opening to KO Casimero.
Nevertheless, judging on the first 3 rounds, I think Rigondeaux should retire already.
I really thought Rigondeaux would test an exchange of punch in the first 3 rounds, but no.

Congrats to the people who put a bet on Casimero.

Rigo should retire, the paying fans don't want a fight like this, they want to see boxers engaging, if I'm a promoter Rigo is only good for supporting bouts, I hope it's the end of his career because obviously he has nothing to show anymore but running in the ring, and on Casimero what he shows is not enough to beat Inoue, but the fight should happen, because there have been so many talks and these talks should be stopped.

But how can you knock out someone when your dance partner, in this case Rigo, plays defense all the way? As you can see, Casimero really tried his best to get a knock out and continue to chase Rigo.

I think the round 1 should be count as knock out for Casimero, it's obvious that Rigo was hurt as he hug Casimero after that and then change his stance. That left hook of Casimero has so much power in it. Might not look very technical as Donaire's left hook but the power behind is very natural.

Rigo should retire and then Casimero wait for the Inoue vs Donaire fight.

In round 1 Rigondeaux knew what's coming if he engages because of what happens he felt the boxer of Casimero, boxers are like that, they had a fight or flight attitude and Rigo don't want to end his career by getting knock out, so he opted to run and employ the hit and run tactics, the decision is not right it should have been a unanimous decision for Casimero, imagine what would happen if Rigo wins the fans will not accept a fighter who wins by running, this is boxing not dancing.

Indeed its a boring fight and I wonder if Rigo is really prepared for this since what he did is to always run. I thought its going to be an exciting fight, really disappointing.

Anyway congrats to Casimero you deserve a better opponent for your next fight.

Despite the dissatisfaction of some of the fans, this is still a win for Casimero. Congratulations for defending his title.

I'd like to see Casimero versus Donaire first. I hope that they're going to continue their postponed match and we all thought that it was about to happen but it didn't. And whoever wins will challenge Inoue or just both them have a fight with the japanese boxer.

For me, the Casimero - Inoue fight will attract more sales, money, and support, the Inoue - Donaire fight already happens and I don't see a different outcome if they fought again, the Casimero fight will be more interesting, and besides they want each other so badly so promoters should make the fight happen and don't deprive fight fans the opportunity to watch these two.

The fight looks like How mayweather faces Manny pacquiao in their fight when Floyd uses the whole ring running away against manny and only delivering punches towards His advantage of the reach .
though casimero won this time yet the fight is not so called Real boxing when they are not exchanging punches but chasing towards another.
but still this is a great achievement to the Filipino boxer as he is one of the most promising now, and also looking for finally the fight against Inoue will come settler next time.

If I'm a fan watching this fight I will be mad it's not the kind of fight worth spending money or even watching I hop from one tab to another because the fight is so boring, it should have been a UD for Casimero, Rigondeaux did not bring anything to the ring but only to run and dance and avoiding to exchange punches.

Well, I guess so. It's going to be an international fight and that's going to make more noise than Inoue vs Donaire 2. But who knows, they should know the pulse of the fans on which fight might happen next. I guess there's just going to be some negotiations that will come to Casimero after this match and he has to take a month or ago of rest then preparation again for his next match. I hope so that we're going to see him fight again that immediate so that he's going to have a continuous match after this.

This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

And you know what? Casimero seems to be disappointed with what Rigondeaux said that there's no running but you know what happened.
He feels frustrated and embarrassing but well, that seems to be less than what he has expected.

Did anyone bet on this odds? that's x6 and that's a good win for Casimero bettors.

And I like to say congratulations to Casimero for winning this boring fight, I thought he would not make it but judges are right to favor the more active and the more hard-working fighter in the ring.

I think his value still increases as he eliminate on of the champions in this division, so only 3 names remain, Inoue, Donaire and himself. He seems to be very frustrated chasing Rigo, I think the only way to beat Rigo is very technical fighter like Loma, who really stomped Rigo and made him quit.

But a pure boxer who relies on his power like Donaire or in this case Casimero, it will be really difficult because of Rigo's defense.

Yeah, why not push for Casimero vs Donaire again. Hopefully Donaire will let Casimero fight him and keep their squabbles aside and make all Filipino fight, that will be more interesting than waiting for the outcome of Donaire vs Inoue. Inoue can take all the vacations he wanted, will the two fight it out for the biggest price. Me makes me think of Pacquiao-Barrera-Morales in the featherweight division. But Pacquiao end up having the numbers on this 2 Mexican legends.

It's already been set before but it didn't pushed and that's why I'd like to watch it first then whoever wants to pursue, any of them can fight Inoue next. Whilst for Inoue, he's good to fight any of them and he's not going to step back with any match coming from these two.
Well, as this match has ended. Most of these will still depend on them and contracts, give and take, percentages and other part of the deal that shall be divided between them.

While watching the unofficial full fight uploaded in YT, reading the comments section is more interesting than watching the whole fight.  ;D Boxing fans really want a toe-to-toe fight not a marathon inside the ring. This is why a lot of boxing aficionados like Pacquiao over Mayweather. And in this fight, it seems Mayweather passed the torch to Rigo for being a runner inside the ring.

Most probably, he must have followed the advice of Mayweather, lol... but actually, this guy is already a runner, that's the way he wins in the fight but on a selective opponent, maybe he understands how strong Casimero is, so he forgot to throw punches and just focus on running.

However, they made history but not on a good side.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/8/15/22625307/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-results-highlights-john-riel-split-decision-compubox-record-boxing-news-2021

https://twitter.com/DanCanobbio/status/1426756749319626752

A win is a win no matter what, we don’t like how the fight ended but still Casimero did his best its just that his opponent is just roaming around running for his life. I don’t think Donaire will happen after they cancelled their match, Inoue should be the next target or anyone. I’m disappointed with Rigondeaux, and I applaud for Casimero for keeping his composure despite of no KO.

I've seen some of the fights of Rigo, against Donaire, he was exchanging well but in this fight, he seemed to be afraid of the power of Casimero, so this makes me think that Casimero is better than Donaire as Rigo beat Donaire via unanimous decision.

If Donaire will fight Casimero, the probably Casimero will win and we will see the Inoue vs Casimero fight.

Gladly, I was only watching the fight in the free streaming earlier. It was a frustrating fight in which the fans booed Rigo for his awful performance. The guy should really retire now because he doesn't have anything to show anymore. We need to see a fight that like the Pacquiao vs Morales Trilogy and where both boxers are completely clashing inside the ring. Those boxers who just want to run all day, are boring in their ultimate sense.

i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun. 
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

Literally not a single person enjoyed this fight. A rematch is not necessary because nobody wants to see Rigondeaux fight again. He will stink up the place again. Bantamweight is still a loaded division and there will be other interesting opponents for Casimero.

Everyone knows it's a boring fight, even if you just watch the highlights on youtube, you can see a lot of comments that says the fight is boring. Prior to the fight, Rigondeaux said that Casimero will see a devil in the ring, but what happens is it's a running Devil trying to run for his life, in short, he only sell but does not show it in the actual fight.

The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

That's why he needs to retire because he is not effective anymore, the running capability is still there but the punching power was not present anymore. He hit Casimero with clean shots also but it looks like Casimero was not even tagged, at his age now, he should retire and enjoy life after boxing.

I watched the post fight interview and it is really disappointing even the answers coming from Rigo.
He said, that's the only style he knows to win (maybe, referring to running style), and he only needs few punches to win this fight.
And the ridiculous part, is that he really thought he won. After all the running and hugging, you expect to win this fight?
A challenger should be more aggressive not running away from the title holder.
This man should really retire, he is just wasting people's money, and maybe this is the reason why he can't get much followers.
I hope his promoter will not arrange fight anymore. We want real fight not running challenge inside the ring.

He is referring to defense style. He just needs to gather more points every round and no need to do close combat. It's his style right from the start of his professional fight. It's like a Joshua Clottey style.


He was managed to connect some good shots including counter shots every round while doing his usual run and clinch. He maybe thinks that judges scored big on it. The fight ended up in split decision meaning his style really works.


Everyone is already aware of Rigo's style. Why are they still paying for it?

He can still fight but not in a title match as he's not fit with it now. I also doubt he can still make good money. He can't bring the entertainment that boxing fans want.

He has been criticized as well with the Loma fight in which he quit in his stool.

So in this case, he didn't quit but rather ran all day throughout the fight. I'm not sure why the other judges score it for Rigo though, because in boxing most of the time the aggressor will always win the fight.

Worst I heard is that this is the worst fight they have seen with titles on the line, LOL.

Yep, but Donaire chooses to step away because of several issues like the VADA testing and supposedly Casimero and his team attacking Rachel Donaire.

But since Casimero already won against a fighter that Donaire lost in his prime, perhaps it will be better for them to fight each other and Donaire step aside the squabbles and give us fans a good fight to watch early next year. And the winner will eventually fight Inoue for all the belts, that will be the perfect scenario.

Casimero totally devastated Rigondeaux career as the Loser is feeling bitter tweeting that the |Philippines has a Great boxer and that is Manny Pacquiao " instead of mentioning the Boxer that beats Him.

meaning he does not accepted the result though it is an obviously domination of casimero from the round one.

so sad to see that there are boxers like this one who cannot accept an obvious defeat.

it was a 12 round fight. if you have been there near the ring and paid for the ticket it's going to make you want to see fights that last long. if casimero enjoyed it as i can see him smiling all the time it's worth watching. Rigo successfully avoided knockout by his boring strategy but casimero is not at fault. rigo bitterness though is what made it not a sportsman like especially his tweets.  i really think there could be another.

Agreed to the retirement matter, but I can say he still have punching power and effective defensive style, that counter punches was so effective, if only he become more aggressive at least as a challenger instead of more in running he could surely won.

Besides Casimero also can't land clear shots and lacks of punches, he's aggressive, following Rigo anywhere yet don't throw punches even lesser to no jobs at all.

He had ruined his reputation on how he shows the attitude when defeated . he is not worth watching as he was boring and cry baby when loses .
i think that the Filipino community will really hates him that much.

It's ok, just let him like that. Boxing fans or not know who's the clear winner of the match.

Should be a unanimous decision but I don't know how Rigo was able to catch one of the judges for a 115-113 score where other judges gave a Casimero a wide gap over scores, 116-112 and 117-111.

If Rigo will ask for a rematch, and with the style he showed, I doubt Casimero's camp will pick it unless it's a unification match.

Yes that is an obvious stupid decision from one Judge in which Casimero dominated the whole fight and there are not even 1 round that favors for Rigo, he even  fall down in the fight in which high value for favoring casimero who handles being tough and strong .
Sometimes this is why Boxing and other sports had been questioned legitimacy , by making and letting this kind of situation happening and not acting to pay respect.

He doesn't deserve to ask for a rematch no promoters will let it happen, boxers are there in the ring to engage show how powerful they are, what Rigo displayed is an act of cowardice it's injustice for the boxing community to see a fighter like this, imagine he only throw 49 punches and he justifies it by saying that it's all the punches he needed to win, this is total injustice a boxer is expected to never count his punches and to go for the win imagine a title is on the line and he can only throw 49 punches, he is a big joke, time for him to retire, he deserves those booing.

The one judge that gave Rigo a nod is Tim Cheatham. Maybe he thought that Rigo counter punching is enough. We all know that there are rounds wherein no one was a clear winning, so perhaps he gave Rigo some rounds that are close.

Yeah, no need for a rematch, we all know that Casimero already won very clearly, Rigo can talk all he wants after the fight, but fight fans doesn't appreciate his style.

I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

John Riel Casimero always goes head hunting in his fight because he wanted to get a ko against Rigo in this fight. That's what he promise in the pre-fight, so he really works to score a ko but Rigo is not a willing victim. And you are right, that his is style of fighting, boring, but for him it is effective. He hit Casimero with good counter, but Casimero keeps coming even in the last round and still looking for that ko. The output though says it all, less than 40 punch in every rounds combine if I'm not mistaken.

Yes from that perspective many have seen that John Riel Casimero is the aggressor and the one that is dominating the fight but the truth is Guillermo Rigondeaux is not really running and watching the highlights I have noticed that the boring style of Rigondeaux is really his southpaw stance, and I have noticed that John Riel Casimero is really pissed off by this kind of style, well both men really did their job, I don't want to judge Rigondeaux on the way he fights but he is really fighting tactically, always looking at an opening before giving a bite, but the way Casimero fight is really impressive too, there are times that Rigondeaux catches him with his counter but the Durability of Casimero was really bothering Rigondeaux,

And yes when the Decision was announced Guillermo Rigondeaux thought that he won the fight, I am not biased here I am just saying what I have seen in the fight, and I have bet and in favor with John Riel Casimero, but after seeing Rigondeaux fight I have seen how tough of an opponent Casimero have fought that night.