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Title: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: rosenbauer02 on July 05, 2021, 02:00:54 AM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?



Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Coyster on July 05, 2021, 03:05:12 AM
Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe...
This is not true. The pandemic caused inflation, and that is the prices of commodities are a tad higher than what it used to be, thus making cost of living slightly expensive, but that's not to say it did spread poverty in the manner you're putting it, maybe in underdeveloped countries that were living in poverty prior to the pandemic, maybe it made their economic situation worse, plus their corrupt government that tries to make wealth out of every situation, good or bad, if you put the poverty thing that way, then it becomes understandable, cause the world has definitely not been thrown into poverty cause of the pandemic, responsible governments are already employing economic measures to fight inflation and restore a bit of normalcy.

Having said that, I think the difference between developed countries and the underdeveloped ones is actually the desire to solve a problem when it arises, I mean since death is inevitable, why worry about it, you can try to solve many of the problems on earth and lead a somewhat comfortable life. For example, from your post:
Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.
I don't know why you feel that will happen, but then if it will, your country should start to work on it's security, insecurity is the problem there, and not to start talking of preparing for death. Your ideology of facing the pandemic issues would actually create more problems than solve any, and they look more 'politics and society' related than 'economics' (the board you actually posted this).


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Ozero on July 05, 2021, 04:17:57 AM
The coronavirus pandemic has changed people's lives a lot and, of course, not for the better. However, governments are paying too much attention to this event and are trying to make us constantly remember about the coronavirus and live with the news of the fight against it and its spread. There are many factors that indicate not only that this is all artificial, but also that the coronavirus vaccine is being done for a completely different purpose. On the one hand, vaccinations do not protect people from death associated with coronavirus, and on the other hand, there are a lot of facts that indicate that a lot of things harmful to people are added to the vaccine (perhaps even intentionally), as well as many different side effects. from her, sometimes of an unexplained nature. Therefore, lately I began to doubt whether it is really happening in the world with the coronavirus that they are trying to impose on us very actively, and whether it is worth getting vaccinated at all, no one knows what with a possible mutation at the gene level.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Nunoluck on July 05, 2021, 05:35:44 AM
I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Obito on July 05, 2021, 05:46:39 AM
If there's God, there would be no one that is going to be homeless, hungry and impoverished because if there really is one, he would have provided you with food, shelter and money to live by. God is created so the small group of people can contril the dumb masses.

I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Dumbass, not every country has the right facility for the storage or production of vaccine so even if they want to help in production, they can't do it. The vaccine patent depends on the inventor, if he is working for a megalomaniac company, then the vaccine is likely to be patented but if the inventor is a pure humanist, patent wouldn't be considered.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: UKprod on July 05, 2021, 05:55:17 AM
The real problem with vaccines is that the European countries, US, Canada etc. have acquired more vaccines than it is required for their population and are currently hoarding the vaccines and refusing to share with the poorer countries. In fact the colonial powers of the erstwhile era who had looted the colonized countries are acquiring vaccines out of the looted money and are depriving the colonized countries from acquiring vaccines.

It seems that the European countries have no conscience and will probably defend that it is not their responsibility to compensate the colonized countries.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: bittraffic on July 05, 2021, 06:27:04 AM
I am willing to be vaccinated but I might just wait until everyone gets vaccinated already.

The real problem with vaccines is that the European countries, US, Canada etc. have acquired more vaccines than it is required for their population and are currently hoarding the vaccines and refusing to share with the poorer countries. In fact the colonial powers of the erstwhile era who had looted the colonized countries are acquiring vaccines out of the looted money and are depriving the colonized countries from acquiring vaccines.

It seems that the European countries have no conscience and will probably defend that it is not their responsibility to compensate the colonized countries.

And the poorer countries are the ones who created these vaccines in their labs. India is one of the producers of the vaccine, they have been affected massively but they have to distribute their vaccines elsewhere than providing the vaccines to their fellow Indians. They are bound with the contracts by the pharms. Sad to see they are not benefitting from it.

I have the feeling that this virus will not die at all and we are going to live this way for the rest of our lives. There's a new DELTA virus which is a sort of mutation of the corona. And then the media now is manipulating our minds that the lockdown is good.



Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Wexnident on July 05, 2021, 06:29:43 AM
5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.
I mean, if you were preparing for death, why spend sparingly. If you were planning to leave money for your family, then sure, part some of it, but the money you'd want to spend for you shouldn't be spent sparingly. Man idk, whatever you said doesn't seem like it's actually "preparing for death". It's more like preparing to live, like, isn't that how life is supposed to go? The notion of death behind this idea just exudes it with a negative connotation or idea that I was honestly confused at what it was even talking about at the start. Kinda funny that what I basically said was something like living is the preparation for death, but hey, that's the reality now isn't it?

Are you willing to be vaccinated?

Why wouldn't I? It's not like Covid is a myth, it's a reality, no reason why I should avoid being safe from it.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: southerngentuk on July 05, 2021, 06:53:25 AM
The challenges in life are too many, I have always told myself that I will have to face even more difficult things like this. As for the current epidemic problem, actually I think it will take a long time for us to be able to control it better.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 05, 2021, 12:32:06 PM
If you are talking about God, then he will never give a test that you cannot bear.
But I am more down to earth and I can say that all your health is always in your hands. The disease is just a consequence. If someone has a weak immune system, then he did nothing to help his body to be strong. The most commonplace things that doctors advise us from childhood have not been heard by many.
Alcohol, drugs, junk food, and more leads to poor health. People do not die from COVID-19, but its complications. And complications are the consequences of inattention to your health.

I got vaccinated


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: xSkylarx on July 05, 2021, 12:46:48 PM
Are you willing to be vaccinated?

I am a person with comorbidity so I'm afraid to be vaccinated because if it will cause a side effect to my body that I couldn't fight, it could result for me to die. I would just rather die the way I want where I am happy than to get any brand of vaccine, plus they don't guarantee yet that you won't have COVID anymore. If the people around me are vaccinated, that is already enough to lessen the risk for me of contracting the virus. I also don't get out of the house so there is a very low chance for me to get the virus.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: ziennakarishma21 on July 05, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Since the pandemic happened, I have struggled with unemployment, lack of food, even going anywhere has to go through control without freedom. everything is so bad and i cant do anything to make money like before it gets harder and harder i hope that the pandemic stop inflation in 2022 will be a better year.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Oasisman on July 05, 2021, 12:59:56 PM
Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.
Man, I don't see any rampant killings or stealing because of the Covid financial crisis here in my place. You know where is the rampant stealing is? Well, that's in almost all of the government agencies. Both local and national government.
They took advantage of the pandemic, released billions of funds for pandemic response funds, but aren't able to distribute the right allocated amount of money to the financially affected people.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.
Death is inevitable/sure/unavoidable, there's no If. No one is exempted lol.
Remember these two things that's sure and unavoidable, death and taxes. Lol

Are you willing to be vaccinated?

Nope, unless the government regulates a mandatory vaccination for all of the employees of private and public business establishments/offices.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Lucius on July 05, 2021, 02:07:14 PM
Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.
Are you willing to be vaccinated?


I believe that everyone has the right to choose when it comes to any type of medicine, especially if it is an experimental vaccine that has not been tested enough and that has killed a lot of people - although much less than the number of those who have died from the virus. I believe that the claims that the vaccine is 100% safe very controversial in the sense that people are provided with incomplete information on the basis of which they make their decision - and that what is happening now in some EU countries can be freely called terror against those who refused to be vaccinated.

You actually relativize the whole problem and don't realize that there are certain categories of people who are killed by the vaccine, but instead of protecting them, the authorities consider them justified collateral victims. My authorities say that if I don't get vaccinated I won't be able to go to the cinema, theater, concerts and even my employer won't get financial support if he has a worker who hasn't been vaccinated - and my health minister rides around in a bus and practically knocks on people's doors with a syringe in his hand...

At the end of the story, one should know that vaccinated people can be infected, that they can die and infect others - the vaccine is nothing but masking the real problem, let them find a cure if they claim they can do whatever they want.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: fiulpro on July 05, 2021, 02:49:06 PM
A really weird post.
I do think that when we have to address vaccination, it's definitely very important. They way I see it, vaccination is the only way to get the jobs going on track again. Not that people are still not working but at the same time the limitations have exhausted the output one can infer.
I do think that we have to be more sensitive when we talk about demise. This is honestly something that is going to affect everyone that you care about. At the same time one does not have to leave their bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies with anyone else since in most wallets there is now an option where you can transfer it to someone after your death. Much like bank accounts. But I do think that are the end of the thing. Vaccination is important and one has to understand for a fact that people who are able to get it for free are actually getting a great deal. The other important thing is getting the second dose, which is going to strengthen it even further. But I have my own doubts about the Chinese vaccination that they are giving away to countries. They just passed the ball mark at the same time you would need more than 2 doses but since it's limited people are not even aware of that.
Get vaccinated for sure but do your research!! At the same time I do believe that pandemic might not be a time to get rich or accumulate money but you for sure can strengthen your mindset and work on family relationships. More is so this is also an important part of the future of the economy. I do believe that only a healthy mind can deliver healthy and fruitful results.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: YOSHIE on July 05, 2021, 03:00:12 PM
Are you willing to be vaccinated?
I read the contents of your topic and I think this is too much, you give a lecture like a priest / scholar.

I ask you again..! whether the vaccine can guarantee you stay alive and avoid the virus, of course not...!!!

Live life as usual and activities as usual in general, don't overdo it there are some possibilities for people to die quickly.
1. Because the disease suffered for a very long time.
2. There is excessive fear, high blood pressure and heart attack.

No one is forcing you to 'vaccinate' it all by the will of the people, not for some reason because you are vaccinated or you have not been vaccinated you are doomed.
Your promise to god is what you have to fulfill, you have promised your life, with god to live in this world, when the time comes, no one person or vaccine can prevent it, die anyway.

Your fear is very excessive about corona and vaccinations, just enjoy your life while you are alive, death is certain and every human being, don't punish yourself too much for something you can't bear, think what you should do today and tomorrow for your family, the best.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: oHnK on July 05, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
Pandemics causes death, poverty and misery. This is far worse than a merit of weapons. It's very clear who his enemy is. This pandemic doesn't even know who we are your enemy, how it shapes but the impact is extraordinary. To rise from a pandemic, the ability to survive we have. The vaccine will not guarantee your health, only you and God are able to maintain your health. We cannot depend on anyone and anything now in addition to God's protection. Poverty, the crisis has become a great wall that must be traversed in the future.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: michellee on July 05, 2021, 03:25:49 PM
I guess the pandemic is still the number one issue among the other issues because it happens in most countries. But poverty is an issue that every country needs to solve. The pandemic makes many people lost their jobs and hard to survive to live. If people can not solve their financial problems, it can increase the criminal's percentage in all countries. But I think the government will figure out the problem and search for the solution.

The point is to be ready for anything that can happen later and if you want to follow your government, you should concern with your health by vaccinated. We all will die tomorrow or someday, but we do not need to worry because we can rest in peace in our graveyard as long as we can live better.

This pandemic will end soon and we still need to survive and to struggle as you say. If we still search for how to survive, we will get that way and will have lived until the pandemic ends.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Hydrogen on July 05, 2021, 04:10:00 PM
I would urge everyone to read more, about everything. Good content on vaccines is hard to find but it is out there. mRNA vaccines were not FDA approved in the united states until 2018. Nano lipids were not FDA approved until 2016. There were short timeframes associated with vaccine testing and its underpinning technology.

When people talk about struggling for survival. Poverty and shortages. Automatically what comes to mind is encouragement for people to grow their own food and become more DIY oriented. Its amazing how high expectations for vaccines are. People desperately want life to return to normal and vaccines are viewed as the best method to achieve this. But then I see some US states and officials denying the vaccinated any privileges over unvaccinated. Receiving the vaccine doesn't negate mask mandates and requirements to wear a mask. The vaccinated do not enjoy relaxed travel restrictions. The motive for being vaccinated decreases in value if receiving the vaccine doesn't allow ones life to return to normalcy over the unvaccinated.

I would be curious to know what happened with Bill Gates being a poster boy for the vaccine movement. He gave talks about vaccines for many years prior to the pandemic. Now he's being thrown under a bus by the media. That Donald Trump of all people stepped up to endorse COVID vaccines in Bill Gates absence. I feel like there's much that could be said on this topic, that isn't being said. The silence is deafening.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: worldofcoins on July 05, 2021, 07:41:36 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.


And some people say Animes are fake, some anime predicted this and showed exactly what's happening right now, people taking vaccines, wearing masks, etc.

Soon there will be gun shootings on the normal citizens, people who didn't take or wanted to take vaccines will be forced to take them if they want to live among the others.
I still think this whole Covid is a scam pulled off by Bill Gates, Dr. Anthony Fauchi (who funded the research of Covid-19 in Wuhan)

Bill gates made the patent of vaccine for the virus that's about to come in the future, he then somehow removed that request in 2020, And i'm not sure if the archive of it still remains somewhere.

I can't find the patent but i found News channels defaming the existence of this claim "https://www.bbc.com/news/53061563"
I wonder how much money their belly took for doing this.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: desticy on July 05, 2021, 08:21:14 PM
I will not get vaccinated, at least I will try to avoid it in the next couple of years.
I do not want to be a beta tester of strange vaccines with unknown side effects, but I believe that the elderly should be vaccinated due to the increased risk zone.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: justdimin on July 05, 2021, 08:35:49 PM
It seems that the European countries have no conscience and will probably defend that it is not their responsibility to compensate the colonized countries.
This is a fact and the weaker nations are already hit hard by problems like lower income, higher population, and more daily wages workers than a strong nation. They cannot even enforce lockdown because it would kill people indirectly, through starvation.

The challenges in life are too many, I have always told myself that I will have to face even more difficult things like this. As for the current epidemic problem, actually I think it will take a long time for us to be able to control it better.
Just when I felt that the virus is going away, there are new cases and strains being found in different countries and looks like we are in a tangle for a long period.

I agree with almost all the points made in op and I wish everyone had the understanding and sensitivity like him to understand that life is precious and sometimes we complicate simple things for no reason. Money was meant to make our life simpler, not to complicate it even further.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: paxmao on July 05, 2021, 08:46:57 PM
It is an interesting advice mix you are giving, on one side do all those thing that you miss when you think you will be dying soon, and on the other side get vaccinated so can eventually think that it was silly from you to think that way  ;D Anyway, with or without COVID it is always good to be around of the people you love, but I disagree on not spending much: while many have the problem of too much vane spending, I actually have the problem of being to conservative in my spending and that is psychologically bad. Find your balance I advise.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: sapnu on July 05, 2021, 09:12:42 PM
Regardless of all the things that may happen to you in this lifetime, your decision over getting vaccinated is all yours and should not be dictated by others. Also, if you really are thinking that way, atleast give chance to other peoples rationale why they are not interested on getting a vaccine. There's millions of illnesses out there that has no vaccine yet nor any aid but a virus that started over a year ago would suddenly have a vaccine after just a year, that sounds like a government's cover up to lower down others panic and worries.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: jaysabi on July 05, 2021, 09:31:38 PM
The real problem with vaccines is that the European countries, US, Canada etc. have acquired more vaccines than it is required for their population and are currently hoarding the vaccines and refusing to share with the poorer countries. In fact the colonial powers of the erstwhile era who had looted the colonized countries are acquiring vaccines out of the looted money and are depriving the colonized countries from acquiring vaccines.

It seems that the European countries have no conscience and will probably defend that it is not their responsibility to compensate the colonized countries.

When you say "acquired" you mean developed.  The developed nations have developed the vaccines, and of course they're going to distribute them to their own populations first. As for not distributing vaccines to the poorer nations, you're dead wrong.  The richer nations have been delivering vaccines all throughout 2021 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55795297).  On top of the 81 million doses that have already been distributed, the US has pledged 500 million more, Japan has pledged one billion dollars towards the effort, and other richer developed nations have also pledged support.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 05, 2021, 10:41:41 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.
I do understand the situation everyone is going through and sure i can understand the situation of the poor, i am working in a good position but my 9 month salary is still pending even though they released some a few months back and i am not struggling to survive but my plans are shattered because of the pandemic.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.
People are not getting work and if you are not having work then you are not earning anything and without earning how you are going to feed yourself unless you live in a country where the government is helping you with food coupons and when you reach a situation like that the crime rate will increase because it is a matter of survival.

 


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Vaskiy on July 05, 2021, 11:49:06 PM


Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?



Yes I got vaccinated and I am it made a huge difference for me. It wasn't really about myself, because I am still fairly young and corona is deadly for the older generation. But meeting my 90 grandmother wasn't an option before we both got vaccinated. Now we can have family lunches again and don't need to worry about infecting her. If you are close to or live together with people above 65+ years, it should be mandatory to get vaccinated.
Myself too got vaccinated. It doesn't assure you that the virus won't attack you anymore, but it gives the resistance to fight against covid-19. In simple the serious attack causing immediate death will be overcome through the medication. Earlier people won't get time for medication. Even before that people used to die. As in the post it is always good to get vaccinated. Particularly for the older generation, because thinking after something has happened is really painful.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: rosenbauer02 on July 06, 2021, 02:49:18 AM
It is an interesting advice mix you are giving, on one side do all those thing that you miss when you think you will be dying soon, and on the other side get vaccinated so can eventually think that it was silly from you to think that way  ;D Anyway, with or without COVID it is always good to be around of the people you love, but I disagree on not spending much: while many have the problem of too much vane spending, I actually have the problem of being to conservative in my spending and that is psychologically bad. Find your balance I advise.
Yeah actually you got some point because everything that is too much is not really good. Yet, being with family with time is different and one can only realize when there no much time left giving time for the family.

Balance for everything is one really strategic to enjoy more time on family and other priorities together with good time management. Yet, the OP was only reminding about the time for love one especially for those hard working individuals not getting enough time for the family. So that in the future regrets would be less likely to happen if will then probably it will be minimal.

How hope the OP is helpful for those individual here dedicates their life to other priorities and give some time for the family.



Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: andriarto on July 06, 2021, 03:31:36 AM


Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?



Yes I got vaccinated and I am it made a huge difference for me. It wasn't really about myself, because I am still fairly young and corona is deadly for the older generation. But meeting my 90 grandmother wasn't an option before we both got vaccinated. Now we can have family lunches again and don't need to worry about infecting her. If you are close to or live together with people above 65+ years, it should be mandatory to get vaccinated.
Myself too got vaccinated. It doesn't assure you that the virus won't attack you anymore, but it gives the resistance to fight against covid-19. In simple the serious attack causing immediate death will be overcome through the medication. Earlier people won't get time for medication. Even before that people used to die. As in the post it is always good to get vaccinated. Particularly for the older generation, because thinking after something has happened is really painful.
Vaccines provide an increase in our body's defenses, where when we have been vaccinated and we are exposed to a virus, our immune system immediately identifies it so that the virus can be defeated immediately and does not continue to attack our internal organs.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Sithara007 on July 06, 2021, 04:01:08 AM
I will not get vaccinated, at least I will try to avoid it in the next couple of years.
I do not want to be a beta tester of strange vaccines with unknown side effects, but I believe that the elderly should be vaccinated due to the increased risk zone.

Obviously no one can force you to take the vaccine (unless you are living in a dictatorship such as North Korea). But at this point, it should be remembered that all the available vaccines have completed the phase III trials. The results from these clinical trials are available with reputed medical journals such as The Lancet. Each of these trials involved anywhere from 50,000 to 200,000 people. On top of that, more than 3 billion doses of the vaccine has been administered till now, and this goes way beyond any "Beta testing" phase.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: kaseygriffin on July 06, 2021, 05:04:01 AM
I will not get vaccinated, at least I will try to avoid it in the next couple of years.
I do not want to be a beta tester of strange vaccines with unknown side effects, but I believe that the elderly should be vaccinated due to the increased risk zone.
Maybe you are over-frightening with this problem, I think it is necessary to choose which one is better.
As for Vaccines, I fully support that people get vaccinated early to prevent disease, you may think it's a problem, but it's better if you don't get vaccinated and get infected.
But if you can protect yourself against outside agents, you will be more proactive.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Shamm on July 06, 2021, 05:26:17 AM
  In this case I really want yo volunteer but I've heard some murmuring outside that some people in here was died because of the vaccine they said once the people vaccine the will felt the reaction of the vaccine specially people I have a serious condition so as person Im thinking about my life because I have a family To take care .


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: carlisle1 on July 06, 2021, 05:44:22 AM
I will not get vaccinated, at least I will try to avoid it in the next couple of years.
I do not want to be a beta tester of strange vaccines with unknown side effects, but I believe that the elderly should be vaccinated due to the increased risk zone.
Maybe you are over-frightening with this problem, I think it is necessary to choose which one is better.
As for Vaccines, I fully support that people get vaccinated early to prevent disease, you may think it's a problem, but it's better if you don't get vaccinated and get infected.
But if you can protect yourself against outside agents, you will be more proactive.

We really don't know what will be there for us after being vaccinated, maybe it's true that it will lessen
the chance of getting infected but the long term side effects is yet to discover.

People are rushing or much better to say that the government are rushing to let their people being vaccinated to
contained and avoid much further spread.

This virus are attacking those people who have weaker immunity system, most are those elders who can't fight back internally.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: imstillthebest on July 06, 2021, 07:58:55 AM
 In this case I really want yo volunteer but I've heard some murmuring outside that some people in here was died because of the vaccine they said once the people vaccine the will felt the reaction of the vaccine specially people I have a serious condition so as person Im thinking about my life because I have a family To take care .
thats only a murmur and that was not confirmed if that is true .
they could be doing that to scare people and for the business for the people to avoid other vaccine brands .
 to make sure that we are safe , we need to check our health first if we are stable because vaccine personel can care less and will inject imediately . if we trully care for others we want to make sure that we are immune so we dont infect them


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Ucy on July 06, 2021, 09:16:05 AM
I wonder if you could tell me how animals like bees, ants, termites, lizards, birds, etc are able to feed themselves constantly without relying on you and I.  The simple Truth is that before this Earth was created, everything has been provided for us by the CREATOR. When you see birds feeding on grains on the floor, it wasn't Just a coincidence, the foods was destined to be on that spot for them by our CREATOR even before HE created the World. So the CREATOR has already made provision for HIS CREATURES ...but those who are living according to HIS purpose will not lack because they are always blessed. Same as human beings. There are foods everywhere , if you ask the CREATOR to help, HE will most likely open your eyes to see the foods. Moreover, if you live in Natural environment rather than the Artificial ones ,you will find good foods cheaply or for free.


In regards to the vaccine part, I hope policy makers remember that certain people can be naturally immune to the disease. I expect that to be part of their criteria for determining who needs the vaccines and who doesn't.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 06, 2021, 10:10:12 AM
OP, I agree with most of your points and I also support getting vaccinated--but is this the right section for this thread?  I'm not seeing how it has to do with economics, though the pandemic has certainly had some crazy effects on the global economy.

This thread seems like it's devolving into a religious discussion, and IMO it might be better suited to P&S or Off-Topic.

Obviously no one can force you to take the vaccine (unless you are living in a dictatorship such as North Korea). But at this point, it should be remembered that all the available vaccines have completed the phase III trials. The results from these clinical trials are available with reputed medical journals such as The Lancet.
Yeah, and while this particular virus might be novel, vaccine technology is not.  I don't think there's anything in any of the  COVID-19 vaccines that's going to harm the recipients to the extent that it outweighs the benefits to the population.  But of course, it should be everyone's choice whether they get vaccinated or not.  I don't think any government or private institution should force people to get it if they don't want it.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Kakmakr on July 06, 2021, 10:25:49 AM
How gullible can people become, when they are desperate. They seem to think that they can trust pharmaceutical companies that violated people's rights on several different occasions. Take Ivermectin as an example... many people has taken this drug during their Covid infection and they survived... (a drug that has been approved for human consumption ...many years ago)

This has been silently brushed to the side, because big Pharmaceutical companies spend Billions on research to develop a vaccine that are promoted by governments to "protect" against the virus.  ::)

This virus is going to keep on mutating and the vaccine is not going to protect you against the new strains. So what happens then, big pharmaceutical companies are going to make small changes and profit from the new strain.  ::)


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: pinggoki on July 06, 2021, 04:33:55 PM
We just need to think about others too so we still need to be vaccinated in order to be safer and our family will be able to get safe also if all of us are already vaccinated. If we die today or we will die tomorrow still get vaccinated because others are still getting vaccinated for the sake of their own selves and also for the sake of their loved ones just like their family and etc.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 06, 2021, 04:57:10 PM
I mean, I am not an asshole that's going to be carried by herd immunity, I want to be part of herd immunity so I am going to get vaccinated. Also, your depressing title is a bullshit way of looking at life, if you are going to die anyway, at least try more things while you are still alive.

Those who are able to get vaccinated must do so, because there are certain group of people who can't get the vaccine (due to medical conditions). If they catch the infection, then it can lead to hospitalization and even death. And as per estimates, herd immunity can be achieved only if 75% of the population gets fully vaccinated against COVID. If certain sections are staying away as a result of propaganda, then it will be hard for the authorities to achieve this figure. And in the end, the groups which are having medical conditions will be the worst affected.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: SirLancelot on July 06, 2021, 07:10:28 PM
2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.
I am sure most of the holders who own significant amounts must have secured them by giving the private key to their loved ones or locking it in some kind of a box which would be opened in emergency cases.

People buy life insurance because they know, uncertain and unlikely events can happen and a tragedy can change your life completely so they plan about it.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".
I would also add that sometimes we hide our emotions towards our parents. I am sure most of the people reading this love their father but how many of us have actually expressed it to him? I am sure very few of us. While they are alive, I wish they live forever, please thank them and show appreciation and the emotions you had for them for years.

Of course, everyone please get vaccinated at the earliest and anyone spreading rumors please think twice because such actions can't be forgiven at all. You don't want to be the reason for someone's death, surely!


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: rosenbauer02 on July 07, 2021, 04:05:09 AM
I had so much fun reading the replies especially in the first page of the OP thread. I was surprised with the different reactions shared thoughts and lessons and variety of ideals and culture too.

I think this could serve as a calling to all individuals who are trying hard forgetting time with their love ones. Well hope this OP has helped.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: swiftbits on July 07, 2021, 04:49:45 AM
Are you willing to be vaccinated?

I am a person with comorbidity so I'm afraid to be vaccinated because if it will cause a side effect to my body that I couldn't fight, it could result for me to die. I would just rather die the way I want where I am happy than to get any brand of vaccine, plus they don't guarantee yet that you won't have COVID anymore. If the people around me are vaccinated, that is already enough to lessen the risk for me of contracting the virus. I also don't get out of the house so there is a very low chance for me to get the virus.
That's the same case for me. I never have or do not remember any time that I've been consulted with a doctor.
I would get my health to be checked first before I get a vaccine of my choice.
I also stayed at home and follow the protocols; I have a low risk of being infected.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: btc78 on July 07, 2021, 05:03:06 AM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.
In order to survive , first we must adopt in the situation , how can we do this? by limiting our demands , instead of eating 3-4 times before pandemic, try to have at least  2 meals per da specially if we have stopped in work since we don't need more energy daily.

this will also help our body having healed as fasting will take place.


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Are you willing to be vaccinated?


even if we are not willing yet "WE MUST" because this is the only way that the pandemic will stop and the dying will also become little by little.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Renampun on July 07, 2021, 05:28:57 AM
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I like your words, very enlightening...

next august I will get a second batch of vaccine injections, I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Lucius on July 07, 2021, 10:30:50 AM
I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.

You are one of those who blindly believe in media propaganda that vaccines are safe, but these are vaccines that have not been sufficiently tested, and for which it is not known at all what effect they have in the long run. More than 10 000 deaths are currently under investigation in the EU, all linked to covid vaccines, and those with mild or severe side effects are measured in the hundreds of thousands. Since they started vaccinating children under the age of 18, a very large number of deaths have been recorded - all of them were healthy children and without any need to be vaccinated.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: oHnK on July 07, 2021, 05:49:50 PM
I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.

You are one of those who blindly believe in media propaganda that vaccines are safe, but these are vaccines that have not been sufficiently tested, and for which it is not known at all what effect they have in the long run. More than 10 000 deaths are currently under investigation in the EU, all linked to covid vaccines, and those with mild or severe side effects are measured in the hundreds of thousands. Since they started vaccinating children under the age of 18, a very large number of deaths have been recorded - all of them were healthy children and without any need to be vaccinated.

In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-18 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Silberman on July 07, 2021, 09:02:42 PM
I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
This is not possible, it would be an ideal of course but if the companies do not want to do it then the governments cannot force them and the reason for this is that the next time there is a pandemic then those companies are going to argue they lost money during the current one and they will refuse to create vaccines during that time, and if that future pandemic is even worse than the current one the days and weeks lost will be critical, so while from an humanitarian point of view what you are saying makes sense it will not happen.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Lanatsa on July 07, 2021, 09:40:16 PM
I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Kasabus on July 07, 2021, 09:55:34 PM
I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: CaVO32 on July 07, 2021, 10:08:10 PM
I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.

You are one of those who blindly believe in media propaganda that vaccines are safe, but these are vaccines that have not been sufficiently tested, and for which it is not known at all what effect they have in the long run. More than 10 000 deaths are currently under investigation in the EU, all linked to covid vaccines, and those with mild or severe side effects are measured in the hundreds of thousands. Since they started vaccinating children under the age of 18, a very large number of deaths have been recorded - all of them were healthy children and without any need to be vaccinated.

Pharma industries are in the race for this covid vaccine, so high likely that they really didn't have enough trials for different types/conditions of the body. We can say maybe, some are premature but if they passed the minimum requirements, they are good to go. But they have different efficacy on different people. As trials are not that wide and varied, they don't know the after effect of the vaccine for certain rare conditions of the body.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Xampeuu on July 08, 2021, 07:14:17 AM
I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.
The government needs vaccines for its people so that the economy will recover if people work normally. with mass vaccination, it costs money, and this comes from the tax sector. In a situation like this, I think the government will immediately make facsimiles, so that people are healthy and the economy will run smoothly, moreover, of course the government will be able to find income from the tax sector


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Connor Britton on July 08, 2021, 08:32:30 AM
I think I will choose to get vaccinated. Although a lot of news is about vaccinations causing many deaths due to complications, I think this probability is still relatively small. We should not refuse to get vaccinated because of some adverse reactions. If we don’t Vaccination, when we go out to contact many people, we may inevitably be infected with the virus. Vaccination is an effective means to resist the virus. Instead of waiting to be infected with the new coronavirus, it is better to get vaccinated, even if you will still be infected. But your mild symptoms are not too serious. Of course, if you are not in good health, you can not get the vaccine first, but I think normal people can get the vaccine. This is not only for your own life and health, but also more. Protect the whole family and even the country well.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: molsewid on July 08, 2021, 11:43:06 AM

In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-19l8 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.

Same here in our country those 18 years old below are not yet qualified on the vaccines available here in our country. At first people were hesitant to get vaccinated due to reported side effects of vaccination in other countries but now people in our country were already convince to get vaccinated but still our government keep on reminding us to still get protected and practice health protocols against this virus even after we get vaccinated.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: worle1bm on July 08, 2021, 12:05:39 PM
The main problem is not that if you don't take vaccine you will die but if you got infected it will unknowingly spread to your family members who are in your contacts and in today's world many old people have many problems like asthma, blood pressure and diabetes which can cause severe damage to their health and that's most concerning part for this.The vaccine is not trusted or if any issue are there I have still got myself vaccinated for sake of me and my family members.It is been immunity booster for some and some got several problems after taking the dose so you can't trust it Fully.So it depends upon you whether you want to take it or not.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: conected on July 08, 2021, 02:09:16 PM

In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-19l8 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.

Same here in our country those 18 years old below are not yet qualified on the vaccines available here in our country. At first people were hesitant to get vaccinated due to reported side effects of vaccination in other countries but now people in our country were already convince to get vaccinated but still our government keep on reminding us to still get protected and practice health protocols against this virus even after we get vaccinated.
- My country does not have such regulations on vaccination but the number of vaccines is still a very limited number, almost only concentrated in big cities to avoid larger outbreaks but despite such favoritism for central cities, a few reports of risks have also caused quite a few people to consider vaccination. Perhaps vaccination needs more positive results to motivate people to actively participate and above all, we should still limit outdoor activities even when vaccinated.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: SquallLeonhart on July 08, 2021, 03:53:42 PM
When people talk about struggling for survival. Poverty and shortages. Automatically what comes to mind is encouragement for people to grow their own food and become more DIY oriented. Its amazing how high expectations for vaccines are. People desperately want life to return to normal and vaccines are viewed as the best method to achieve this. But then I see some US states and officials denying the vaccinated any privileges over unvaccinated. Receiving the vaccine doesn't negate mask mandates and requirements to wear a mask. The vaccinated do not enjoy relaxed travel restrictions. The motive for being vaccinated decreases in value if receiving the vaccine doesn't allow ones life to return to normalcy over the unvaccinated.

I would be curious to know what happened with Bill Gates being a poster boy for the vaccine movement. He gave talks about vaccines for many years prior to the pandemic. Now he's being thrown under a bus by the media. That Donald Trump of all people stepped up to endorse COVID vaccines in Bill Gates absence. I feel like there's much that could be said on this topic, that isn't being said. The silence is deafening.
Maybe that could be the case in USA I do not know but in my nation people who are vaccinated can travel outside of the nation whereas people who are not vaccinated can't go to any other nation, same goes for people who are coming into our nation as well, if you are non-vaccinated, you can't come into our nation and if you are vaccinated you can.

There are still mask mandates because vaccination is not there to stop the spread of the virus, it is there to make the virus less likely to kill you, until the day comes when humanity do not worry about dying from this, and we can drop the numbers into 50k death per year even if we live our normal life, mask will stay, only will be lifted when we reach to a level where it kills as much as flu or at least close, we are not there just yet. Not getting vaccinated has just one result ; more likely to die. Doesn't mean that you will die, just means that there is more likelihood of you dying over being vaccinated, some people are not sure so they take the risk, but I rather not.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Fredomago on July 08, 2021, 04:07:48 PM
Those are the the things that you have to consider, not just you alone but those people who are also prone getting infected.

If your body can take the virus and if you survive with it, but how about those who are prone in getting the same infections but their health is not good like yours, you need to think of them each time you interact with your love ones.

The main problem is not that if you don't take vaccine you will die but if you got infected it will unknowingly spread to your family members who are in your contacts and in today's world many old people have many problems like asthma, blood pressure and diabetes which can cause severe damage to their health and that's most concerning part for this.

I also do, protecting not only myself but most for the sake of my family, and those people who are close to me.

If this vaccine can help lessen the chance of getting infected then taking the shots is the best thing to do.

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The vaccine is not trusted or if any issue are there I have still got myself vaccinated for sake of me and my family members.It is been immunity booster for some and some got several problems after taking the dose so you can't trust it Fully.So it depends upon you whether you want to take it or not.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: $crypto$ on July 08, 2021, 04:24:57 PM
In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-19l8 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.

Same here in our country those 18 years old below are not yet qualified on the vaccines available here in our country. At first people were hesitant to get vaccinated due to reported side effects of vaccination in other countries but now people in our country were already convince to get vaccinated but still our government keep on reminding us to still get protected and practice health protocols against this virus even after we get vaccinated.

I'm just a little dubious when it comes to getting vaccinated because of course there will be side effects later if it doesn't match our immune system, that's what I'm worried about.

Seeing from local news in my country there are many side effects after being vaccinated, from various body heat, vomiting, convulsions and also the body becomes weak and paralyzed, I am even horrified to see this news but will this be guaranteed by the government after many vaccinations later?

I think what needs to be done is just to maintain a healthy body pattern and maintain immunity.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: dothebeats on July 08, 2021, 05:28:52 PM
I'm a man whose entire background revolves around Science, and who worked with the virus firsthand, I definitely will take the shot (which I already did btw) without any hesitations whatsoever. There's really nothing negative about getting vaccinated save for a few outliers. That's where pre-screening comes into play wherein you would be profiled based on your medical history, and whether or not you're going to be vaccinated or just be in the sidelines until further data are collected regarding the effects of the vaccine to those individuals with similar yet milder symptoms than you.

There's really no other way around a pandemic except for introducing a vaccine and developing herd immunity as more and more people take the shot to protect those who cannot receive it. The only reason why this current lineup of vaccines is controversial is because it's done in record time as compared to the previous ones that were concocted by scientists all over the world. We have to take into consideration that technology advances, and so does our ability to formulate, analyze, and study vaccines that are generally safe for use in the shortest time possible.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: SacriFries11 on July 09, 2021, 12:01:58 PM
Yes. It is important to be vaccinated. It is our protection against the deadly virus. Though it is not 100% fully protected, still, you will not develop serious illness if you get infected. You will still be infected but it will be just mild. I, myself, want to be vaccinated but I have lots of allergies, I first have to consult my doctor and get a medical clearance prior to vaccination. I am hypersensitive so I"ll ask my doctor first if it is okay for me to get vaccinated. For now, I am extra careful, i do doubdle masking and distancing myself to other people to make sure i didnt go close contact with other people.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Davidvictorson on July 09, 2021, 01:57:22 PM
Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe...
This is not true. The pandemic caused inflation, and that is the prices of commodities are a tad higher than what it used to be, thus making cost of living slightly expensive, but that's not to say it did spread poverty in the manner you're putting it, maybe in underdeveloped countries that were living in poverty prior to the pandemic, maybe it made their economic situation worse, plus their corrupt government that tries to make wealth out of every situation, good or bad, if you put the poverty thing that way, then it becomes understandable, cause the world has definitely not been thrown into poverty cause of the pandemic, responsible governments are already employing economic measures to fight inflation and restore a bit of normalcy.

Having said that, I think the difference between developed countries and the underdeveloped ones is actually the desire to solve a problem when it arises, I mean since death is inevitable, why worry about it, you can try to solve many of the problems on earth and lead a somewhat comfortable life. For example, from your post:
Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.
I don't know why you feel that will happen, but then if it will, your country should start to work on it's security, insecurity is the problem there, and not to start talking of preparing for death. Your ideology of facing the pandemic issues would actually create more problems than solve any, and they look more 'politics and society' related than 'economics' (the board you actually posted this).

I do agree with you. People living in underdeveloped countries have become poor not because of the pandemic per day but because their corrupt government have hoarded relief materials meant for her citizens. In these countries it is not uncommon to see that the state of insecurity and crimes would have skyrocket.

Vaccine or no vaccine death is inevitable. The question should be are you living a purposeful life, solving problems, helping your fellow humans and contributing your quota to make the world a better place?


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: oHnK on July 09, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
I'm just a little dubious when it comes to getting vaccinated because of course there will be side effects later if it doesn't match our immune system, that's what I'm worried about.

Seeing from local news in my country there are many side effects after being vaccinated, from various body heat, vomiting, convulsions and also the body becomes weak and paralyzed, I am even horrified to see this news but will this be guaranteed by the government after many vaccinations later?

I think what needs to be done is just to maintain a healthy body pattern and maintain immunity.

After a long consideration, I have been vaccinated when I have cough. I dont feel anything but based on people said for the first vaccine Sinovac, There is no reaction for body and the second vaccine has given the reactions for them. Now, I feel nothing maybe because of the first vaccine, in the next who knows. But I'll hope everything gonna be fine.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Desmong on July 09, 2021, 06:20:07 PM
Taking the vaccine is not as serious as you think cause many persons had taken and still alive so why are you now putting it as if taking it will kill the person. Although whether one take it or not, we are still going to die which is certain but sometimes prevention is better than cure, so is the reason why we need to get vaccinate to obstruct further regret.



Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Raflesia on July 09, 2021, 06:39:50 PM
Yes. It is important to be vaccinated. It is our protection against the deadly virus. Though it is not 100% fully protected, still, you will not develop serious illness if you get infected. You will still be infected but it will be just mild. I, myself, want to be vaccinated but I have lots of allergies, I first have to consult my doctor and get a medical clearance prior to vaccination. I am hypersensitive so I"ll ask my doctor first if it is okay for me to get vaccinated. For now, I am extra careful, i do doubdle masking and distancing myself to other people to make sure i didnt go close contact with other people.
It is very necessary if there is something symptomatic in you it can only be doctor's permission or not to be vaccinated, but in my opinion if you have more symptoms, especially allergies, it is better not to be vaccinated before fully recovering and this can trigger a reaction later, I'm afraid there will be side effects to be suffered.
Actually, maintaining a healthy pattern is also good on a regular basis, but with vaccination it may be much better to improve your body, but everyone must have different symptoms, it would be better before the vaccine first check with the doctor.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Silberman on July 10, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.
We may like it or not but at the end of the day healthcare is an industry and they need to generate profits like any other industry, the moral thing to do would be for them to release the patent of the vaccine and allow other companies to produce it but this is not going to happen as those laboratories invested a huge amount of money to develop the vaccine in the first place, so for the time being we have no other option but to wait until the day we can get access to the vaccine so we can be free from this nightmare that has lasted for more than a year.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 11, 2021, 12:26:55 PM
If you don't want to be vaccinated then you might want to not share the fact because what's the point, you will only make more people get misinformed. Dying is inevitable but that doesn't mean that you don't have to enjoy life and not get vaccinated plus the vaccine isn't for you, it's for the vulnerable population to get carried by herd immunity.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Gozie51 on July 11, 2021, 01:25:51 PM
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1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

This is quite true but we also need to do what we need to do to prolong our lives at least keeping ourselves happy helps our health to get better especially good functioning of the heart. We need to know that heaven will help does who help themselves. God also made herbs where every continent draws from for treatment of whatever illness and it was said in Daniel 12:4 ".... and knowledge shall be increased".

God has all and that is where even science and technology rely on. God owns everything humanity is enjoying today.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Silberman on July 13, 2021, 10:18:02 PM
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.
This is true, I know that many people do not like the fact that so much money is being paid to the pharmaceutical industry but think about it without them and the vaccines that were created we will be in an even worse shape than what we are now, so if they are going to make a fortune in the process it was inevitable as the vaccines are probably right now the most sought item around the world and this always means profits for the one that can supply such product.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 13, 2021, 10:31:24 PM
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.
This is true, I know that many people do not like the fact that so much money is being paid to the pharmaceutical industry but think about it without them and the vaccines that were created we will be in an even worse shape than what we are now, so if they are going to make a fortune in the process it was inevitable as the vaccines are probably right now the most sought item around the world and this always means profits for the one that can supply such product.
People cant really just accept the fact that everything on this world isnt free and creating vaccine does really have expense.We dont know if those are just really good for business or really mindful on getting rid with the virus but so far its really helping out people but nothing is assured in terms of 100% efficacy so we should be still careful.

Its still up to someone to decide whether they do like to take a shot or would just simply on hold because they are still hesitating because of the possible side effects that could happen.

We do have different minds and opinions about on things on this world and lets just accept about that business thing because it would be always existing no matter what.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: uneng on July 13, 2021, 11:16:41 PM
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.
This is true, I know that many people do not like the fact that so much money is being paid to the pharmaceutical industry but think about it without them and the vaccines that were created we will be in an even worse shape than what we are now, so if they are going to make a fortune in the process it was inevitable as the vaccines are probably right now the most sought item around the world and this always means profits for the one that can supply such product.
People cant really just accept the fact that everything on this world isnt free and creating vaccine does really have expense.We dont know if those are just really good for business or really mindful on getting rid with the virus but so far its really helping out people but nothing is assured in terms of 100% efficacy so we should be still careful.

Its still up to someone to decide whether they do like to take a shot or would just simply on hold because they are still hesitating because of the possible side effects that could happen.

We do have different minds and opinions about on things on this world and lets just accept about that business thing because it would be always existing no matter what.
There is nothing wrong in paying a fair price for the vaccine and its development, as you said everything has a cost. The issue here in my country is that middlemen between the government and the vaccines' sellers were receiving bribery to finish the deal in order to supply the country with the vaccines. It's all under investigation yet, but it was said these middlemen were charging 1 dollar per shot.
That is a lot of money, but it isn't a surprise for me, because it was already known something like this would happen, since the government allied themselves with lots of thieves of political world to guarantee support at the legislative house.

Furthermore, we never know if the vaccines are really legit since we are being ruled by thieves. Someone who charges 1 dollar in bribery per shot can also vaccinate people with water and say it's vaccine.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: just_Alice on July 13, 2021, 11:17:00 PM
We may like it or not but at the end of the day healthcare is an industry and they need to generate profits like any other industry, the moral thing to do would be for them to release the patent of the vaccine and allow other companies to produce it but this is not going to happen as those laboratories invested a huge amount of money to develop the vaccine in the first place, so for the time being we have no other option but to wait until the day we can get access to the vaccine so we can be free from this nightmare that has lasted for more than a year.
First of all, the mRNA vaccine technology is complex and involves a lot of steps, not all of which were developed by the same laboratory or company, so the whole process of releasing the patent would be very complicated.

Secondly, there's no moral reason for the companies to share the technology. A number of manufacturers already produce the vaccine in large amounts and the only limitation that stands between the access to the vaccine and the company is the government, which is responsible for acquiring these vaccines.

So it's not like the companies are holding the vaccines to themselves and not letting people have it - it's rather the governments being irresponsible about the healthcare and wellbeing of their nation, because, as we can see, in civilized countries there's no problem with the vaccine if they run lotteries for millions of dollars just to encourage people to take a shot. On the other hand, we see a great flaw in the healthcare of developing countries, because, probably, instead of directing the money from taxes to health reserves for such occasions as we have now, they've been stealing that money or allocating improperly. And, believe me, letting those countries making their own vaccine with the same technology bought from the other companies wouldn't do them any good, because they'd still be required to pass a set of licensing and certifications, which could take forever, and the end result might not be that good.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: markdario112616 on July 14, 2021, 06:30:19 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Do what we are born to do, strive to survive. It's better to die at least when you are trying to live than die without trying. Less complain.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Poverty is already there and has been an issue since the start of civilization. Pandemic has stricken the whole world and caught every nation off guard. To those, 3rd world countries it's already given Chaos, criminal acts and etc. It will never change and poverty is just a factor to do such acts but what most scarier than poverty? It's Greed, we were born greedy and selfish. But we are as well, given a gift by (God) which is wisdom. To know what is right and wrong.


Are you willing to be vaccinated?



Got myself vaccinated not only for myself but also for my family. Well, it took me some time before getting vaccinated. I research and gather enough information formation to convenience myself. But yeah, injecting a self-inflicting or dead virus to fight off a virus sounds absurd. Being extra cautious going outside and careful not to spend too long within crowded areas are not enough to avoid this Covid.

Lucky for us even though we are in a 3rd world country, our Government still provided free vaccines to its people.

Even though that the vaccines available in the market are still in a trial and error phase. It seems to be somehow effective, on those old variants of the virus. Though, let's just make clear that being vaccinated will NOT be a ticket to immunity to the virus. We can still contract the virus but with a lesser effect or not as destructive compare to those unvaccinated.

But let us not forget, that every vaccine have its own side effects. Do your own research, to which vaccine your body can take.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: AicecreaME on July 15, 2021, 11:45:58 AM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?



The covid-19 pandemic surely brought a lot of challenges to majority of us. The pandemic took a toll even on the most powerful country. No one was exempted to its negative effects and to the repercussions of not being ready and prepared enough. Inflation happened to most countries during the peak of covid-19 due to lack of resources most especially to the poor countries. A lot of people struggled and are still struggling up until this date to make the ends meet and bring food onto their tables. I agree that some people really did make few illegal activities just to survive. However, the crime rates have also varying result from one place.

According to what I've read, the crime rate related to robbery and theft indeed arose because there are a lot of people who lost their jobs and they opted to steal due to hunger and other needs such as medical reasons. However, this kind of information isn't enough for you to bother and worry so much to your death. I just don't see the point of listing the things you must do before you die. I see no connection at all. If you will follow the safety protocols and stay at home as much as you can if you are not working, then you have a little to be worried about dying of murder. If I must add, according to an article, the crime rate related to murder did in fact decrease because of strict health measures imposed by the government such as lockdowns.

And to answer your question, yes, I am willing to be vaccinated if the opportunity comes. As of now, there is ongoing registration of vaccines from our local government unit. However, a lot of people have registered, so they need to be accommodated first, most especially the senior citizens and those people with comorbidities. After them, the people who registered recently will be scheduled for their first dose. To be honest, I'm really skeptical at first because I have read news about the vaccine's negative side effects. But now, I am convinced that in order to combat covid-19, we must be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. Just like how we conquered the past pandemics and plagues that has happened before.
 


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Charot12345 on August 19, 2021, 01:38:46 PM


Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


Yes I am willing but as the time goes by, and there are news that some people died because of the vaccine makes me think twice but still I think the safer way is to be vaccinated.

This pandemic really takes many lifes, make people live in hardships, many loss their job, some people dont' know how to survive and are losing hope. Then I think what extends this pandemic is because of the people too. Lack of discipline, does'nt follow health protocol so it was great that a vaccine was invented already.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Kittygalore on August 19, 2021, 02:20:10 PM
I'm not a dumbass so I would still get vaccinated anyways, it's science so how can you exactly doubt that, if you remove science and all the research regarding science, it will still remain the same thing because it's a true and it's in the nature so nothing can change that. So to everyone who's scared of vaccinations and are spreading lies that vaccines kills, it doesn't and you only look like a clown doing that.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Gyfts on August 19, 2021, 03:02:29 PM
I would urge everyone to read more, about everything. Good content on vaccines is hard to find but it is out there. mRNA vaccines were not FDA approved in the united states until 2018. Nano lipids were not FDA approved until 2016. There were short timeframes associated with vaccine testing and its underpinning technology.

Nanolipids are just a drug delivery mechanism, so even if you believed there were some adverse effects of the vaccine, the chance that nanolipids have debilitating side effects are slim to none. I get the concern for mRNA vaccines because the side effects aren't completely examined, but the benefits outweigh the risks if you have preexisting conditions or are over 75 years old.

Bill Gates has always been a hippie pro-vaccination'er, so it's not suspect to me why he's become the face of the Covid-19 vaccine. It's a bit odd though, the same folks that tell you not to listen to the non-scientists will put Bill Gates on tv screens to convince everyone to get vaccinated. I see why there's hesitancy.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: conected on August 19, 2021, 03:07:46 PM


Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


Yes I am willing but as the time goes by, and there are news that some people died because of the vaccine makes me think twice but still I think the safer way is to be vaccinated.

This pandemic really takes many lifes, make people live in hardships, many loss their job, some people dont' know how to survive and are losing hope. Then I think what extends this pandemic is because of the people too. Lack of discipline, does'nt follow health protocol so it was great that a vaccine was invented already.

- Underlying and pre-existing diseases are particularly likely to lead to adverse events and increased mortality when vaccinated, so these days, the medical team is constantly asking these private questions and making decisions and advice before they vaccinate, with such simple procedures, those who are vaccinated also become somewhat reassured. However, some recent problems are holding many people back from vaccination as they are uncomfortable with vaccines originating in China.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: qwertyup23 on August 19, 2021, 03:43:49 PM
2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

I think this point that you raised deserves to be seen specifically.

The problem with BTC unlike in any other investment instruments available, once a person passes away, all of his remaining BTC would be stored in storages forever. The only way in order to gain access to it is by having the private key- in which the owner has it. Without it, those BTCs are locked forever. That is why, always have a contingency especially if you are holding large amounts of BTCs.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: ShowOff on August 19, 2021, 04:18:25 PM
I think this point that you raised deserves to be seen specifically.

The problem with BTC unlike in any other investment instruments available, once a person passes away, all of his remaining BTC would be stored in storages forever. The only way in order to gain access to it is by having the private key- in which the owner has it. Without it, those BTCs are locked forever. That is why, always have a contingency especially if you are holding large amounts of BTCs.
The greater the number of bitcoin a given individual has, the greater the responsibility to keep them safe including thinking about how someone from his or her family can use bitcoin after he or she dies. It is a form of personal awareness of every bitcoin holder whether they will leave all their asset frozen or they want to pass it on to the family. They also have the right to inherit the private key as soon as possible or arrange another best way so that one of the family members can access the wallet after he dies.

The point you quoted are point that every holder of bitcoin and other crypto asset should consider. There are many ways that forum users have outlined in the context of inheriting ownership of asset, I think they are very useful. Apart from all that, it is the right of every individual how to manage it properly and correctly without any risk that can harm him unexpectedly.

OP, I have taken two doses in the last 3 months and now a third dose of a different drug has been recommended and applied in several place. The third dose may only target workers in public services such as hospitals, police, army and some others. For the general public, it is only 2 doses. But it's true I'm not sure this vaccine can prevent covid and break the chain of spread. The reason, many vaccine recipients are still infected.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Quidat on August 19, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

I think this point that you raised deserves to be seen specifically.

The problem with BTC unlike in any other investment instruments available, once a person passes away, all of his remaining BTC would be stored in storages forever. The only way in order to gain access to it is by having the private key- in which the owner has it. Without it, those BTCs are locked forever. That is why, always have a contingency especially if you are holding large amounts of BTCs.

When it comes to inheritance then you should really obliged yourself on able to save up or make out some arrangement on how you gonna secure it incase you do pass away.Crypto is something that cant be passed once they dont know about the keys of such wallet and theres no way that you would able to access it. We all do gonna die because we arent that immortal and that time is unknown neither you do die from accident or die from disease or die from any other possible reason. For now i didnt consider on letting myself getting some vaccine shot.Why? im afraid with the side effects and i would rather  choose to die than on hitting that small probability of
dying about those vaccine issues.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: irsada on August 19, 2021, 04:51:53 PM
In my country the vaccine is carried out in 2 stages with an interval of once a month for vaccination, I have experienced the first vaccine and now in a few days I will get the second vaccine. So far I haven't had any problems with my body because many people have already been vaccinated for the second time, there's no harm in trying to reduce the transmission of this virus by trying a new immune system.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: newwest on August 19, 2021, 04:57:49 PM
Vaccine is just another layer of protection to prevent against the virus. Though its not 100% you will be safe as even after 2nd dose some of them have got virus but that is hardly a percentage when compared to overall. So this proves that vaccine is effective as compared to those who are not at all vaccinated.
Some of the reactions could happen as depending on the body type or some pre ailment disease.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 19, 2021, 05:18:07 PM
The greater the number of bitcoin a given individual has, the greater the responsibility to keep them safe including thinking about how someone from his or her family can use bitcoin after he or she dies. It is a form of personal awareness of every bitcoin holder whether they will leave all their asset frozen or they want to pass it on to the family. They also have the right to inherit the private key as soon as possible or arrange another best way so that one of the family members can access the wallet after he dies.

The point you quoted are point that every holder of bitcoin and other crypto asset should consider. There are many ways that forum users have outlined in the context of inheriting ownership of asset, I think they are very useful. Apart from all that, it is the right of every individual how to manage it properly and correctly without any risk that can harm him unexpectedly.

OP, I have taken two doses in the last 3 months and now a third dose of a different drug has been recommended and applied in several place. The third dose may only target workers in public services such as hospitals, police, army and some others. For the general public, it is only 2 doses. But it's true I'm not sure this vaccine can prevent covid and break the chain of spread. The reason, many vaccine recipients are still infected.
I have taken my 2 doses as well, and I have been doing fine, been outside a bit more with that confidence but not too much, I do not want to get it and be like an idiot and be maskless in a crowded place. For example, I had to be at hospital today because of one of my friends surgery, and that meant I was in the hospital from 7 am in the morning to 7 pm in the evening, I used to wouldn't be able to do that at all, BUT now that I was there, that doesn't mean I can leave all the care away, I used all the masks (used two actually) and stayed away from everyone except the friend that had the surgery because I had to help him undress and dress and walk and even go to toilet, but aside from him I was not near anyone at all.

So, what do we do now that we got the 2 doses (and some got 3)? We should do like me, not just leave all the care away, still be careful, but do not be paranoid anymore like how I used to be.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Raflesia on August 19, 2021, 05:41:56 PM
Vaccine is just another layer of protection to prevent against the virus. Though its not 100% you will be safe as even after 2nd dose some of them have got virus but that is hardly a percentage when compared to overall. So this proves that vaccine is effective as compared to those who are not at all vaccinated.
Some of the reactions could happen as depending on the body type or some pre ailment disease.
So everyone who has been vaccinated is only protecting their body to be even more immune to the virus, to be honest I have vaccinated because this is a program from the government so that every citizen is required to be vaccinated. the body but it's also the other way around, it's even worse after being vaccinated.

Indeed, in reality, how from our bodies, is it strong or not, of course, all of this must have a doctor's examination to make it safer after vaccination, but is it really mandatory in other countries?


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Tumanggor on August 19, 2021, 05:54:55 PM
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Are you willing to be vaccinated?


I've been vaccinated but honestly, it's because I was forced to do that
I work in a small transport and my boss requires his employees to be vaccinated otherwise, those who don't agree will be fired

For me the worst thing about this pandemic is that we can't choose whatever we want anymore, we have to be more obedient to the government
this pandemic is driving me almost crazy


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: pealr12 on August 19, 2021, 06:16:16 PM
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Are you willing to be vaccinated?


I've been vaccinated but honestly, it's because I was forced to do that
I work in a small transport and my boss requires his employees to be vaccinated otherwise, those who don't agree will be fired

For me the worst thing about this pandemic is that we can't choose whatever we want anymore, we have to be more obedient to the government
this pandemic is driving me almost crazy

Too bad your organization made you to go through that, your boss is only following the rules and try to avoid any problem with the law as a business owner he can not risk the health of his workers and customers as well.
i am not yet vaccinated and i don't plan to do so, i will most likely take care of my health the best way i know, try to avoid being in the crowd, observe social distance and follow the basic health rules of sanitization.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Fortify on August 19, 2021, 06:43:46 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?



That's some great advice except for the first point. You don't really need to believe in any kind of supernatural forces to have a fulfilling life, but it comes down to personal choice. I'd say that everyone should travel far and wide if they have that sort of opportunity in life, as it can really open up your mind to different ways of living. It should be obvious to all, even if you are on the fence about it, that getting the vaccine is about protecting the community as much as it is about protecting yourself. You might survive a bout of sickness, but if you're able to defeat the virus quicker it might mean that you do not spread it on to more people unnecessarily.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: irsada on August 19, 2021, 07:24:06 PM
Vaccine is just another layer of protection to prevent against the virus. Though its not 100% you will be safe as even after 2nd dose some of them have got virus but that is hardly a percentage when compared to overall. So this proves that vaccine is effective as compared to those who are not at all vaccinated.
Some of the reactions could happen as depending on the body type or some pre ailment disease.
So everyone who has been vaccinated is only protecting their body to be even more immune to the virus, to be honest I have vaccinated because this is a program from the government so that every citizen is required to be vaccinated. the body but it's also the other way around, it's even worse after being vaccinated.

Indeed, in reality, how from our bodies, is it strong or not, of course, all of this must have a doctor's examination to make it safer after vaccination, but is it really mandatory in other countries?

Actually, it is not mandatory in my country, except for people who directly work for public facilities, it is obligatory for the employee to take the vaccine, if he refuses, he must be prepared to accept the risk of being unilaterally dismissed by the company.

 


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Natalim on August 19, 2021, 08:33:33 PM
Vaccine is just another layer of protection to prevent against the virus. Though its not 100% you will be safe as even after 2nd dose some of them have got virus but that is hardly a percentage when compared to overall. So this proves that vaccine is effective as compared to those who are not at all vaccinated.
Some of the reactions could happen as depending on the body type or some pre ailment disease.
So everyone who has been vaccinated is only protecting their body to be even more immune to the virus, to be honest I have vaccinated because this is a program from the government so that every citizen is required to be vaccinated. the body but it's also the other way around, it's even worse after being vaccinated.

Indeed, in reality, how from our bodies, is it strong or not, of course, all of this must have a doctor's examination to make it safer after vaccination, but is it really mandatory in other countries?

Actually, it is not mandatory in my country, except for people who directly work for public facilities, it is obligatory for the employee to take the vaccine, if he refuses, he must be prepared to accept the risk of being unilaterally dismissed by the company.

 

With regards to vaccine, our government provides this law that no vaccine, no work policy is not allowed but they are encouraging the whole countrymen to get vaccinated because its one way of preventing covid 19. So far, most of the citizens here got vaccinated already before the vaccine runs out.

I myself will eventually take the vaccine maybe a couple of days from now. The heresays about vaccines making your death faster is terribly nonsense. Its just an excuse for all those people who never gets educated about the vaccine.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: ajochems on August 19, 2021, 08:54:33 PM
In my country the vaccine is carried out in 2 stages with an interval of once a month for vaccination, I have experienced the first vaccine and now in a few days I will get the second vaccine. So far I haven't had any problems with my body because many people have already been vaccinated for the second time, there's no harm in trying to reduce the transmission of this virus by trying a new immune system.

In many countries the vaccination was done in two stages. Most of the people in every people was get vaccinated.Virus spread over many country. Seems to have a third waves in a short period. To get escape from it, we had no other option then vaccination. Some  are skipping is not good for them and for their family.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: ultrloa on August 19, 2021, 09:44:25 PM
In my country the vaccine is carried out in 2 stages with an interval of once a month for vaccination, I have experienced the first vaccine and now in a few days I will get the second vaccine. So far I haven't had any problems with my body because many people have already been vaccinated for the second time, there's no harm in trying to reduce the transmission of this virus by trying a new immune system.

In many countries the vaccination was done in two stages. Most of the people in every people was get vaccinated.Virus spread over many country. Seems to have a third waves in a short period. To get escape from it, we had no other option then vaccination. Some  are skipping is not good for them and for their family.

Many skip its because there are to many lies spreading toward the effect of the vaccine maybe best for people to stop believing on the hoax spreading over the internet that there something bad happen to them if they let theirselves get vaccinated. And they should start to believe that vaccine works also health experts knows what they are doing, they are experts on the field so hopefully people will realize that so they trust and end this pandemic cause to much damage to our economy.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: eaLiTy on August 19, 2021, 09:47:39 PM
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I have taken my 2 doses as well, and I have been doing fine, been outside a bit more with that confidence but not too much, I do not want to get it and be like an idiot and be maskless in a crowded place.
I am not against vaccines in general but i am not confident how safe these new vaccines are in the long run and how it might affect our body and hence i am still waiting out until we have some detailed study about the vaccine, but the problem is that the government is planning to enforce everyone to take the vaccine if want to travel and it will make things hard for me personally.

I understand majority of you have taken the vaccines shots but none have mentioned which company vaccine they administered. I am also confused with which company vaccine to administer if the government enforces it mandatory for travel.


 


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: AndySt on August 19, 2021, 11:59:29 PM
Vaccine is just another layer of protection to prevent against the virus. Though its not 100% you will be safe as even after 2nd dose some of them have got virus but that is hardly a percentage when compared to overall. So this proves that vaccine is effective as compared to those who are not at all vaccinated.
Some of the reactions could happen as depending on the body type or some pre ailment disease.
So everyone who has been vaccinated is only protecting their body to be even more immune to the virus, to be honest I have vaccinated because this is a program from the government so that every citizen is required to be vaccinated. the body but it's also the other way around, it's even worse after being vaccinated.
Indeed, in reality, how from our bodies, is it strong or not, of course, all of this must have a doctor's examination to make it safer after vaccination, but is it really mandatory in other countries?
Actually, it is not mandatory in my country, except for people who directly work for public facilities, it is obligatory for the employee to take the vaccine, if he refuses, he must be prepared to accept the risk of being unilaterally dismissed by the company.
With regards to vaccine, our government provides this law that no vaccine, no work policy is not allowed but they are encouraging the whole countrymen to get vaccinated because its one way of preventing covid 19. So far, most of the citizens here got vaccinated already before the vaccine runs out.
I myself will eventually take the vaccine maybe a couple of days from now. The heresays about vaccines making your death faster is terribly nonsense. Its just an excuse for all those people who never gets educated about the vaccine.
Yes, the conspiracy theory has blossomed with a violent color in relation to vaccines and the very idea of vaccination. On the one hand, the vaccine, like any medicines, has its own side effects and difficulties, but still they are absolutely not comparable to the harm to the individual and others that the COVID-19 virus can cause to health. On the other hand, hopes for the consciousness of citizens do not always come true, so there is nothing wrong if there are legislative requirements for vaccination of those citizens whose work is connected with contact interaction with many other citizens. Because in addition to personal rights, it is necessary to think about the rights to the life and health of other people.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: bocyaj on August 20, 2021, 02:06:41 AM
Vaccination is not a compulsory for us.Based on our wish, we do the vaccination.Not all the people had vaccinated for now. The people who had trust on government and government move, had get vaccinated.Many casualties happening near us. In our relationship, to avoid on us, kindly get vaccinated.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Sithara007 on August 20, 2021, 03:00:20 AM
Vaccination is not a compulsory for us.Based on our wish, we do the vaccination.Not all the people had vaccinated for now. The people who had trust on government and government move, had get vaccinated.Many casualties happening near us. In our relationship, to avoid on us, kindly get vaccinated.

LOL... as far as I know, none of the countries around the world have made vaccination mandatory. Vaccines (other than Sinopharm and Sinovac) are in short supply, so it will be really an idiotic move from the governments if they do this. However, many of the countries have banned unvaccinated people from visiting shopping malls and movie theatres. Also, for air-travel, you need either the vaccination certificate, or the test result showing that you had tested negative for COVID recently.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: MIldic1c on August 20, 2021, 07:02:49 AM
There is no mandatory requirement for vaccines in our country, but many people choose to vaccinate voluntarily after allowing vaccination. I did not choose the first vaccination, because according to the development of vaccines, it takes three years for the vaccine to be available for experimentation, and it only takes about one year for the vaccine to appear in our field of vision. I don't believe it can absolutely stop the virus. However, after all, everyone around me chose to be vaccinated, and the virus situation suddenly became severe. In the end, I also chose to be vaccinated.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: wajik-tempe on August 20, 2021, 07:09:12 AM
There is no mandatory requirement for vaccines in our country, but many people choose to vaccinate voluntarily after allowing vaccination. I did not choose the first vaccination, because according to the development of vaccines, it takes three years for the vaccine to be available for experimentation, and it only takes about one year for the vaccine to appear in our field of vision. I don't believe it can absolutely stop the virus. However, after all, everyone around me chose to be vaccinated, and the virus situation suddenly became severe. In the end, I also chose to be vaccinated.

3 years reasearch to found a vaccine may is no longer valid because in this modern technology era, AI, Machine Learning and anything like that could boost the research time due to automated system. So i think it's possible to found it in less than 2 years. Also the vaccines are already tested and give us more resistence to the virus more than 70%.
That means vaccinated person is less chance to be infected even the chance to be infected is still there.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: macson on August 20, 2021, 08:45:41 AM
In my country the vaccine is carried out in 2 stages with an interval of once a month for vaccination, I have experienced the first vaccine and now in a few days I will get the second vaccine. So far I haven't had any problems with my body because many people have already been vaccinated for the second time, there's no harm in trying to reduce the transmission of this virus by trying a new immune system.
Your country looks really struggling to suppress the spread of this virus....a few days ago i was vaccinated, i just felt a little fever but now it's better, many are still doubtful about the vaccine because of the fud that was spread from the start.  we must be more compact and fight together to suppress the spread of this virus.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Hughes_Ryan on August 20, 2021, 09:28:03 AM
Currently, in a mess and devastated by the death of each city area, each route.  Getting vaccinated is like the dream of all the people in my hometown.  Even though they know that vaccines can't control 100% of the covid variants, queuing up to get vaccinated is also a great excitement for them.  Because even if they die from the mutant symptoms of the vaccines, they also understand that being vaccinated is something to hope.  It's not wealth that matters right now but safety and being alive


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: CaptainCrapper on August 20, 2021, 11:30:31 AM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can end this pandemic and we can live a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccines.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


Yes I have taken a vacation from mordana company but we have to think the vaccine is not for save all the life conscious ness need to get save from covid 19 various varrient.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on August 20, 2021, 11:32:56 AM
Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?



im okay to get vaccinnated and also in my country now all things related to meet other people in the future must have a vaccine letter. maybe that's what discourages people from getting vaccines because there's still bad news about the effects of vaccines. although the source of the news is not clear. but the media picked up this news. and there is always exist people as opposition for new era.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: ShowOff on August 20, 2021, 12:07:34 PM
im okay to get vaccinnated and also in my country now all things related to meet other people in the future must have a vaccine letter. maybe that's what discourages people from getting vaccines because there's still bad news about the effects of vaccines. although the source of the news is not clear. but the media picked up this news. and there is always exist people as opposition for new era.
I never believed that vaccines could break the chain of transmission of Covid infection as many people say. Exactly last Wednesday, one of my friend who had received a full dose of the "Sinovac" vaccine was diagnosed with COVID-19 without symptom which forced him to go out or self-isolate for 14 days. I know that the government has made it difficult for people to keep using vaccine, although they argue that there is no compulsion to accept them but what is clear is that anyone who refuses will face consequence that may prevent them from receiving various service in government institutions. I'm sure you know exactly what's going on there so far for Covid and vaccines.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: cheezcarls on August 20, 2021, 12:40:23 PM
Until now I am not yet vaccinated but planning to do so with my sister with Moderna. Despite a lot of criticism with these vaccines, they could at least help preventing us from experiencing severe symptoms and can decongest hospitals while not exempted from getting infected. I would rather take this now because of the threat of Delta and Lambda variant.

Herd immunity is still a long way to go. Maybe in 1-2 years from now I believe. When this happens, we can say COVID will be just like any other flu out there like what happened with the Spanish Flu a century ago.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: $crypto$ on August 20, 2021, 01:40:45 PM
im okay to get vaccinnated and also in my country now all things related to meet other people in the future must have a vaccine letter. maybe that's what discourages people from getting vaccines because there's still bad news about the effects of vaccines. although the source of the news is not clear. but the media picked up this news. and there is always exist people as opposition for new era.
I never believed that vaccines could break the chain of transmission of Covid infection as many people say. Exactly last Wednesday, one of my friend who had received a full dose of the "Sinovac" vaccine was diagnosed with COVID-19 without symptom which forced him to go out or self-isolate for 14 days. I know that the government has made it difficult for people to keep using vaccine, although they argue that there is no compulsion to accept them but what is clear is that anyone who refuses will face consequence that may prevent them from receiving various service in government institutions. I'm sure you know exactly what's going on there so far for Covid and vaccines.
Yesterday I wanted to shop at the supermarket but I was rejected because I couldn't show the vaccine letter because I haven't been vaccinated yet because my heart is still unsure whether this is really effective and will break the chain of covid-19 so I'm still staying silent. home and rarely leave the house.

In my opinion, the government is subtly forcing its citizens to immediately get vaccinated, even though there are many arguments that there is no vaccine, but every time you go or on TV there must be an advertisement to invite you to get vaccinated otherwise this will make it difficult to deal with government agencies, even my friend wants to extend it a driver's license if you don't have a vaccine certificate.

Shopping is now even more difficult.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: suryana on August 20, 2021, 02:38:27 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


Yes I am waiting for my turn at vaccination. In my country the vaccine has been given but has not been able to reach all of them. Because of this, the space for people who have not been vaccinated is limited. In my country the vaccine is one of the obligations to be able to come to the shopping center. Hopefully with vaccination can reduce the number of deaths to be reduced or even non-existent.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Semar Mesem on August 20, 2021, 03:00:55 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can end this pandemic and we can live a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccines.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


Yes I have taken a vacation from mordana company but we have to think the vaccine is not for save all the life conscious ness need to get save from covid 19 various varrient.

In my place, many people get sick after being vaccinated, this is because they don't care about their health conditions, so when they get vaccinated they drop, the vaccine will never guarantee that we are always healthy, what we can do is always take care of our mind and body health to avoid covid.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: CLS63 on August 20, 2021, 11:03:46 PM
I have already got vaccinated by two doses of Biontech vaccine. There were some side effects but they were gone very quickly. I think that getting vaccinated is very important to be able to fight against the coronavirus and its variants like Delta etc.. We have only one life. And we should take care of it as good as possible. There is no meaning in antagonizing vaccines. They are not killers, they are savers. It's already been proven. Side effects can just be more dangerous for the people who have a disease that is related to the vaccine in some way. They should be extra careful due to that.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Koro-Sensei on August 20, 2021, 11:32:33 PM
Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


I believed in this. There are many people who struggle to find a living within these days due to pandemic lockdowns. It surely leads to hunger which most people faces right now. The checks that being given isn't enough. What we need right now is a total support from the government to whole sector of the community. Fund the starting of businesses. Create jobs for those who got fired and lastly give more credits to health workers to raise their moral and probably ending this pandemic.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: MKings on August 21, 2021, 03:04:00 AM

Vaccination is a good thing. But he will not completely eradicate the virus. He can only increase our immunity.

I have read the news: One person still got the flu after the vaccine.

The important thing is to do personal protection. Don't gather crowds.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: boyptc on August 21, 2021, 04:20:45 AM
Vaccination is a good thing. But he will not completely eradicate the virus. He can only increase our immunity.
It is the reason why many don't want to be vaccinated, it's not yet 100% to cure the virus in our body. But isn't that the purpose of the vaccine for every disease? to increase our bodies stamina of avoiding severe results?

I have read the news: One person still got the flu after the vaccine.

The important thing is to do personal protection. Don't gather crowds.
It's known for most news, those that are vaccinated yet still containing the virus, they're not too severe unlike those that didn't get the vaccine, they're suffering upon a contagion.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Baihaki Khaizan on August 21, 2021, 05:42:39 AM
Every disease has a cure except for one, death. Death can't be cured, meaning that if you're already dead, that's fine.

trying to cure a disease is very necessary. by means of treatment. (some are chemical and herbal).

Likewise with the corona (covid 19). The virus will infect anyone. Staying away from the virus is much better than treating it.

So obey the health protocols, keep your distance, don't gather, wear masks. This is a lesson for us, that humans have God, besides humans must seek medicine, they must also return to God.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Xinarae* on August 21, 2021, 07:03:05 AM
Vaccination has become very important nowadays people don't give it at first but later everyone gives it because the corona virus vaccine will work as an antidote to other diseases. It has some side effects but be aware which is usually a normal sign that your body is developing immunity common side effects are pain or swelling in the hand where you were vaccinated headache body aches fatigue and fever. To reduce pain or swelling at the injection site cover the area with a clean cool wet cloth and use your hand or exercise consult a doctor if you are worried about any side effects.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: uelque on August 21, 2021, 01:32:24 PM
Tbh, I don't really trust vaccines, because they never told us what is inside the vaccines, like, what are its detailed components? few studies has been done about the effectivity of vaccines and it was made in just a year while other non covid vaccines are done for so many years.

I am not questioning the professionals or scientists who put their efforts in making a cure, but what I want to see is all the data regarding to the effectivity of it and also its components in details.

So if I am about to ask about getting a vaccine, for now my answer is NO. Also, I think covid vaccines is a bussines, just like how the gov't and small branches of it turn covid into bussiness.  :)

Just my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: perryxi2 on August 21, 2021, 01:43:00 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


i am not ready for this so i have disease in my body and cant be ready for vaccination , and currently vaccines are still quite new and cannot cure all there will be some consequences to this vaccination . I cannot trust this vaccine because it has too many consequences, I do not choose to take the risk and I will still wait for better vaccines in the future.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: xSkylarx on August 21, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
I'm having neutral feelings about the vaccine right now; I'm not sure if I want to be vaccinated or not; I know all the facts; I'm also aware of the fake news; it's just neutral to me right now; if I get the vaccine tomorrow, that's fine; if not, that's fine as well. Despite the fact that I work online and go outside frequently, I believe I need to be vaccinated, but the vaccine is not available in our area, so I don't know what else to do but wait.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Snappycoco on August 21, 2021, 04:25:45 PM
The risk of dying because of Covid 19 is much bigger than the risk of having a deadly side effect. In my country where priority sectors are being vaccinated first before us the younger ones, it is quite hard to protect ourselves without vaccines. A lot of rumors emerging in the States that these vaccines can lead to sudden death. I don't know why but for me WHO's findings should be trusted by all people. This pandemic really hurt most of the business sectors that leads to hunger. Vaccination and probably heard immunity is the key to success.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: nakamura12 on August 21, 2021, 06:00:09 PM
I have survived the pandemic until now and thank God I have strong immune system and I am not planning eit3on getting vaccinated. I have known some people where they get vaccinated and die even though they didn't get positive in covid19 virus. A family is very healthy and yet they decided to get vaccinated then later on the whole family died not because of covid19 but because of the vaccine.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: rajakulam on August 21, 2021, 06:43:57 PM
I personally really want to be vaccinated, in order to stop the spread of covid-19, but what is unfortunate now is when vaccination has become a business arena for governments and entrepreneurs in a country, where we cannot buy vaccines personally and only provided by the government, so that in In this case of injection, there are many irregularities in the injection of the vaccine


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: fullhdpixel on August 21, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
Currently, in a mess and devastated by the death of each city area, each route.  Getting vaccinated is like the dream of all the people in my hometown.  Even though they know that vaccines can't control 100% of the covid variants, queuing up to get vaccinated is also a great excitement for them.  Because even if they die from the mutant symptoms of the vaccines, they also understand that being vaccinated is something to hope.  It's not wealth that matters right now but safety and being alive
Honestly vaccination is not the solution to end this, it is the solution to slow this down. Will the world be covid-19 free and become zero deaths per day if every single human gets 2 shots and then 1 shot ever 6 months? No, even in that dream case, with 100% vaccination, we are not going to see zero deaths.

However let's be realistic it is going to be 90% better than what it is right now and that matters, instead of nearly 5 million deaths, we would have 500k deaths, is 500k death is a good number? Of course not, who would want world to have 500k deaths? I mean maybe some sick people but normally you shouldn't want that, yet when you compare it to 5 million then it becomes at least better than what we have.

This is why we have vaccination, not to make things perfect, but to make things better comparatively speaking. Which is why people who do not get their shots because they think there is a hidden secret behind it, actually causes a not so hidden fact, death.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Cornia on August 21, 2021, 07:00:48 PM
I have survived the pandemic until now and thank God I have strong immune system and I am not planning eit3on getting vaccinated. I have known some people where they get vaccinated and die even though they didn't get positive in covid19 virus. A family is very healthy and yet they decided to get vaccinated then later on the whole family died not because of covid19 but because of the vaccine.
No matter how strong your immune system is, your body will never make antibodies against covid-19 without being vaccinated or infected. So you should take the vaccine to have time. I haven't seen anyone die for the vaccine. I and my family have all been vaccinated. No one has any problem. So don't be panic.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: istiak2277 on August 21, 2021, 07:01:54 PM
In my country, only old people are getting vaccinated first. They are only allowing basis of needs like health workers, govt officials, defense forces will get vaccinated first. I am still waiting for my turn and govt assured me that every citizen will be vaccinated before Q1 2022. I am assuming that everything will be normal after that. Hope this process will be quick and easy.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: nakamura12 on August 21, 2021, 07:31:51 PM
No matter how strong your immune system is, your body will never make antibodies against covid-19 without being vaccinated or infected. So you should take the vaccine to have time. I haven't seen anyone die for the vaccine. I and my family have all been vaccinated. No one has any problem. So don't be panic.
No I didn't panic. It's the truth though. I have seen it with my own eyes when my neighbour almost died for not being able to breathe normally after getting vaccinated. It up to me if I want to get vaccinated or not. In my family, the only ine got vaccinated is my brother who got positive in covid19 and also my father who is 60+ years old and seems didn't have problem thank God. Even those who didn't get vaccinated and got positive even survived covid19 and now cured from it without the help of vaccine. Some of them got positive in covid19 after being vaccinated. Are you willing to take risk?.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: dimonstration on August 21, 2021, 07:39:37 PM
In my country, only old people are getting vaccinated first. They are only allowing basis of needs like health workers, govt officials, defense forces will get vaccinated first. I am still waiting for my turn and govt assured me that every citizen will be vaccinated before Q1 2022. I am assuming that everything will be normal after that. Hope this process will be quick and easy.
Some countries who are able to get their people vaccinated were already almost back in normal like in Dubai. Thou precautions still need and strict governance should be implemented so the variety will not spread again. Only a few realize that what is needed to avoid covid is to have strong government whi will implement stricter rules and people who are obedient to follow.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: rosenbauer02 on August 21, 2021, 07:41:09 PM
We all have different decisions made this year and even the start of the pandemic. Some people don't want to get vaccinated and some want to get vaccinated. Take a look at the latest replies and we all know the reasons why. Some may say that getting vaccinated is a must to help fight the virus but as you can see some survived not because of the vaccine. Honestly, some government officials even take advantage of this situation where they get funds for the vaccine for those who want to get vaccine and yet they made it into business where the vaccine is sold even if it is from the government and it is for free, it is indeed a harsh reality but whatever happen let's face it in good faith if we die today or die tomorrow.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: mojun7982 on August 21, 2021, 09:15:28 PM
I have survived the pandemic until now and thank God I have strong immune system and I am not planning eit3on getting vaccinated. I have known some people where they get vaccinated and die even though they didn't get positive in covid19 virus. A family is very healthy and yet they decided to get vaccinated then later on the whole family died not because of covid19 but because of the vaccine.
No matter how strong your immune system is, your body will never make antibodies against covid-19 without being vaccinated or infected. So you should take the vaccine to have time. I haven't seen anyone die for the vaccine. I and my family have all been vaccinated. No one has any problem. So don't be panic.

While there are indeed people who can't get vaccinated for health reasons, it is even more the duty of guys like you and me who can get vaccinated and be less of a threat to those who can't get it. Getting the vaccine is also a lot about solidarity. Ultimately, everyone can make their own decisions, but statistics are clear here and the risk of getting sick, like dangerous sick because of the vaccine are essentially zero. On top of that you can help save others's lives.
The argument is always time and it was so quickly developed and so on, yet but we as a species became better and faster at everything. There are hundreds of things one could do to stay healthy, not smoke, no cigarettes, don't eat food from any sort of mass production. We couldn't even use DNA to hunt down criminals in the 1990s, now it is the easiest thing in the world. A micro tiny piece of skin is enough to even simulate what your face could look like. I trust science, they aren't joking around risking the lives or health of millions (or even billions).


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: lixer on August 21, 2021, 09:37:16 PM
We all have different decisions made this year and even the start of the pandemic. Some people don't want to get vaccinated and some want to get vaccinated. Take a look at the latest replies and we all know the reasons why. Some may say that getting vaccinated is a must to help fight the virus but as you can see some survived not because of the vaccine. Honestly, some government officials even take advantage of this situation where they get funds for the vaccine for those who want to get vaccine and yet they made it into business where the vaccine is sold even if it is from the government and it is for free, it is indeed a harsh reality but whatever happen let's face it in good faith if we die today or die tomorrow.
I have a slightly different opinion about this.

People who wish to get vaccinated shall not be told by others not to do so because we all live in democracy and must take our own decision whether we want to get vaccinated or not.

That said, I respect and fully understand why some don't want to get vaccinated. We must not force our decision onto someone else because there's no guarantee what we think is correct. It's about perception and people should take their own decision and government must respect that.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: SirLancelot on August 21, 2021, 09:58:09 PM
I have survived the pandemic until now and thank God I have strong immune system and I am not planning eit3on getting vaccinated. I have known some people where they get vaccinated and die even though they didn't get positive in covid19 virus. A family is very healthy and yet they decided to get vaccinated then later on the whole family died not because of covid19 but because of the vaccine.
No matter how strong your immune system is, your body will never make antibodies against covid-19 without being vaccinated or infected. So you should take the vaccine to have time. I haven't seen anyone die for the vaccine. I and my family have all been vaccinated. No one has any problem. So don't be panic.
I have been vaccinated as well. I don't know who and why people are spreading fake hoaxes around the vaccine because it is almost criminal to spread such news. Yes, I know there might have been some cases where the vaccine might have backfired and had severe side effects on some patients, but that happens with almost any vaccine and most medicines.

People who think the whole coronavirus situation was a planned move are nothing but negatively-minded idiots who have nothing in life but to think and create controversial stories about almost everything.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Viscore on August 21, 2021, 10:10:38 PM
We all have different decisions made this year and even the start of the pandemic. Some people don't want to get vaccinated and some want to get vaccinated. Take a look at the latest replies and we all know the reasons why. Some may say that getting vaccinated is a must to help fight the virus but as you can see some survived not because of the vaccine. Honestly, some government officials even take advantage of this situation where they get funds for the vaccine for those who want to get vaccine and yet they made it into business where the vaccine is sold even if it is from the government and it is for free, it is indeed a harsh reality but whatever happen let's face it in good faith if we die today or die tomorrow.
I have a slightly different opinion about this.

People who wish to get vaccinated shall not be told by others not to do so because we all live in democracy and must take our own decision whether we want to get vaccinated or not.

That said, I respect and fully understand why some don't want to get vaccinated. We must not force our decision onto someone else because there's no guarantee what we think is correct. It's about perception and people should take their own decision and government must respect that.
In my country, everyone is encourage to get vaccinated but we are not force to do it if we are in doubt. I think it's the most important thing. As long as we know already our obligation and we are doing those health protocols, then even if you don't want to get vaccinated, you will be respected. I myself is not vaccinated yet because i have to think it a hundred times since i have comorbidity. And because once its done, it will never be undone. The effects of the vaccine will definitely be absorbed by your whole body.

But i'm definitely against with those people who are discouraging others from getting the vaccine. It's not proper. Everyone's decision should be given high priority about this.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Shasha80 on August 21, 2021, 10:12:36 PM
We all have different decisions made this year and even the start of the pandemic. Some people don't want to get vaccinated and some want to get vaccinated. Take a look at the latest replies and we all know the reasons why. Some may say that getting vaccinated is a must to help fight the virus but as you can see some survived not because of the vaccine. Honestly, some government officials even take advantage of this situation where they get funds for the vaccine for those who want to get vaccine and yet they made it into business where the vaccine is sold even if it is from the government and it is for free, it is indeed a harsh reality but whatever happen let's face it in good faith if we die today or die tomorrow.
I have a slightly different opinion about this.

People who wish to get vaccinated shall not be told by others not to do so because we all live in democracy and must take our own decision whether we want to get vaccinated or not.

That said, I respect and fully understand why some don't want to get vaccinated. We must not force our decision onto someone else because there's no guarantee what we think is correct. It's about perception and people should take their own decision and government must respect that.

Right now the pandemic situation is not over yet and many people are still experiencing financial crises. With so many problems we have to deal with
in the current situation, please don't add any more problems. I agree that it should not be an issue regarding vaccination, everyone should be given
the freedom to be vaccinated or not. There should be no coercion in decision-making regarding vaccination, we should all be able to respect each
other's decisions. If anyone wants to be vaccinated, please do it according to the applicable procedure. While those who don't want to be vaccinated,
we must also respect that person's decision. But for people who are not vaccinated, they must always follow health protocols, such as always wearing
a mask. If we can all respect each other, going through this pandemic will be easier.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Taskford on August 21, 2021, 10:31:50 PM
I have survived the pandemic until now and thank God I have strong immune system and I am not planning eit3on getting vaccinated. I have known some people where they get vaccinated and die even though they didn't get positive in covid19 virus. A family is very healthy and yet they decided to get vaccinated then later on the whole family died not because of covid19 but because of the vaccine.
No matter how strong your immune system is, your body will never make antibodies against covid-19 without being vaccinated or infected. So you should take the vaccine to have time. I haven't seen anyone die for the vaccine. I and my family have all been vaccinated. No one has any problem. So don't be panic.
I have been vaccinated as well. I don't know who and why people are spreading fake hoaxes around the vaccine because it is almost criminal to spread such news. Yes, I know there might have been some cases where the vaccine might have backfired and had severe side effects on some patients, but that happens with almost any vaccine and most medicines.

People who think the whole coronavirus situation was a planned move are nothing but negatively-minded idiots who have nothing in life but to think and create controversial stories about almost everything.

To many idiots believe that they became zombie if they take those vaccine available today I don't know if how could they believe those hoax since its really crazy to think if that one will really happen. Maybe the best thing to do now is to trust the health experts since all of them recommend the vaccine and this could totally end the pandemic if all of us will get that protection.

I'm done already with my second dose so far I don't experience any bad thing what hoax told so better for other to trust the vaccine and do their share so we could end this and live a better life after this pandemic.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: inoes on August 21, 2021, 11:59:26 PM
I am ready to be vaccinated because I believe that
 The government has guaranteed that the vaccines that are now given to the public are safe and can also provide many benefits. Vaccinations will reduce the impact if we contract Covid-19.  Therefore, even though we have been vaccinated against Covid-19, it is recommended that we continue to carry out health protocols.  If vaccination coverage is high and evenly distributed in an area, herd immunity will be formed.  By reducing the rate of Covid-19 infection and breaking the chain of the Covid-19 pandemic, we can also protect the next generation from the long suffering of being infected with this disease.  So let's try our best for the good of ourselves and others


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Sithara007 on August 22, 2021, 03:50:18 AM
To many idiots believe that they became zombie if they take those vaccine available today I don't know if how could they believe those hoax since its really crazy to think if that one will really happen. Maybe the best thing to do now is to trust the health experts since all of them recommend the vaccine and this could totally end the pandemic if all of us will get that protection.

I'm done already with my second dose so far I don't experience any bad thing what hoax told so better for other to trust the vaccine and do their share so we could end this and live a better life after this pandemic.

The anti-vaxxer community has existed in the world for many decades and they became quite active during this pandemic as well. And it is not just the illiterate guys who believe in these hoaxes about vaccines. The president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro claimed that vaccines will make humans turn to alligators. And many of the Pentecostal churches in Brazil banned it's adherents from receiving a vaccine (incidentally, Brazil is having the third highest death toll from COVID 19, with close to 600,000 deaths).


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 22, 2021, 04:03:24 AM
Are you willing to be vaccinated?
Sure, why not? Why would I be hesitant to get vaccinated since the majority of people are already doing so and we can't actually predict when we'll die? I mean, if vaccination can help you live longer in this world, then get it because most individuals, especially those on the frontlines who administer vaccines to us, are also vaccinated. Achieving all of your goals and being happy and contented does not imply that you need or have embraced death, because the reason you're here is to find a reason and appreciate the life you've been given.

Different variants of COVID 19 exist, and current variants such as delta and lambda are more deadly than the usual variant, so if you've survived COVID-19, I think surviving these new variants would be difficult, so good luck!  ;)


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: jaysabi on August 22, 2021, 05:12:40 AM
No matter how strong your immune system is, your body will never make antibodies against covid-19 without being vaccinated or infected. So you should take the vaccine to have time. I haven't seen anyone die for the vaccine. I and my family have all been vaccinated. No one has any problem. So don't be panic.
No I didn't panic. It's the truth though. I have seen it with my own eyes when my neighbour almost died for not being able to breathe normally after getting vaccinated. It up to me if I want to get vaccinated or not. In my family, the only ine got vaccinated is my brother who got positive in covid19 and also my father who is 60+ years old and seems didn't have problem thank God. Even those who didn't get vaccinated and got positive even survived covid19 and now cured from it without the help of vaccine. Some of them got positive in covid19 after being vaccinated. Are you willing to take risk?.

Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated. You have one anecdotal story about a complication, that you don't even know is linked to the vaccine, and that's your reason for not getting vaccinated? It sounds like panic if you're ignoring hundreds of millions of instances of nothing going wrong to focus on the very few instances of someone reporting a complication.  Statistically, that's not a reasonable conclusion, so the irrationality of it would be better described as "panic."


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: nakamura12 on August 22, 2021, 05:34:46 AM
Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated. You have one anecdotal story about a complication, that you don't even know is linked to the vaccine, and that's your reason for not getting vaccinated? It sounds like panic if you're ignoring hundreds of millions of instances of nothing going wrong to focus on the very few instances of someone reporting a complication.  Statistically, that's not a reasonable conclusion, so the irrationality of it would be better described as "panic."
So you think I didn't know about if it is linked to the vaccine?. How would you explain this?. My neighbour is getting vaccinated by the johnson and johnson vaccine then he almost died. Do you think I wouldn't know it?. My father and brother id vaccinated then you think it is not linked to vaccine?. I know there are hundreds and millions of people getting vaccinated but we can't deny those who died because of the vaccine even if it is less than the amount of people getting vaccinated. Sure you can call it panicking whatever you think it is. If it ever happens to you like the one I said then blame yourself. Some people are vaccinated but still get infected with covid and die compared to unvaccinated and survived though some did die. If you have lived here then you will know.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Ngemmeng on August 22, 2021, 07:08:26 AM
In my country, only old people are getting vaccinated first. They are only allowing basis of needs like health workers, govt officials, defense forces will get vaccinated first. I am still waiting for my turn and govt assured me that every citizen will be vaccinated before Q1 2022. I am assuming that everything will be normal after that. Hope this process will be quick and easy.
the number of vaccines that are not many makes many people have to wait to get the vaccine. all want to return to normal life and that will be achieved once they have been vaccinated. now go to the mall and look for a job must be able to show a vaccination card, so it's no wonder that vaccines are now a bone of contention for many people.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: raidarksword on August 22, 2021, 08:36:44 AM
The pandemic changed the lives from all walks of life and it took some grave events to all people all over the globe that's why we should never be complacent all the time, follow strict protocols of hygiene all the time. We still be vaccinated but it's not for lifetime though, it's only a temporary. All things that were left is to lift our prayers to god for protection to our family with this virus and most importantly that we can go back to normal as much as possible.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: molsewid on August 22, 2021, 09:36:09 AM
The pandemic changed the lives from all walks of life and it took some grave events to all people all over the globe that's why we should never be complacent all the time, follow strict protocols of hygiene all the time. We still be vaccinated but it's not for lifetime though, it's only a temporary. All things that were left is to lift our prayers to god for protection to our family with this virus and most importantly that we can go back to normal as much as possible.

With all the life that this pandemic took from many people, the crisis that we are now facing in life, poverty, health risk and the anxious that we feel every time we heard a new variant is developed, circulating and much more dangerous than the old variant I really would not second thought to get vaccinated. Vaccine is not mandatory only those who are willing to get a dose could have but we should consider the much higher risk if we are not vaccinated. So far being vaccinated and continue practicing safety precautions it is the best armour we could have right now.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Desmong on August 22, 2021, 12:00:07 PM
Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.

Poverty now will becoming a number one issue accross the globe and surely will becoming a major problem that will cause criminal activities. We all know poverty is already listed as top major problems around the world and  this pandemic will add this poverty issue. It has been discussed already here where I read a certain threas regarding the increase the price of basic commodities. This is really a chaos due to poverty that will result and encourage to do criminal activities.

Stealing, killing and other related criminal acts will become rampant. So, one must become ready and this is why I think that you yourself too should be ready and here are the things that you need to consider in getting ready to face death.

1. Believe in a superpowers (God), this world is created to it that even science could not comprehend how the universe is being made. Meaning there is God but we do not know how he works but we should believe in the creator. In thay way facing death knowing that there is a creator and he will surely going to take care of you after death.

2. Leave all your financial assets and trust it to your family or closed one especially your BTC. They can't get your BTC once you die accidentally.

3. Forgive all the people that hurt you and ask forgiveness rhe people you hurt. They will going to remember you of all your good deeds once you die.

4. Give more quality time to people that are closed to you. You can't turn back time so spend it wisely as they say that "Time is Gold".

5. Spend your money wisely not by purchasing luxuries in life but only the need and don't forget to share if you have some extra resources to spare to others.

In this way, if death will become invetable to you then you had already enjoyed life and that you had done wonderful things to yourself and to others. Therefore you can freely accept death in good faith.

Life is wonderful and precious so take care of it and avoid things that can destroy life. This covid19 and pandemic could be avoided by practicing minimum health standard protocol and taking the vaccines. Vaccines can possibly end this pandemic and we can live to a normal life again. Let us help fight the pandemic by getting vaccine.

Are you willing to be vaccinated?


This is very funny honesty cos everybody is going to die whether you are vaccinated or not. So why agitating about the consequences when we are already in it. The pandemic had done bad than good which had makes many to reconsider life again. Job loses, hunger, limited supply of money and many damage to businesses, companies, even government become imminent to this crisis that had affect everyone in the world.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 22, 2021, 12:13:11 PM
I can't believe this thread attracted so many replies. I don't have any hatred towards religious people, but here the OP is using religion as an excuse to blame humans for the pandemic. The COVID-19 pandemic is like any other pandemic the humans have faced during our existence. We survived the black death of 14th century, the Spanish flu of 1918-20, and the small pox pandemics. Just remember that the religion was of little use during these testing times. The clergy on the other hand used it as an excuse to expand their powers. It was the scientists and physicians who helped humans during these times.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Raflesia on August 22, 2021, 12:59:34 PM
The pandemic changed the lives from all walks of life and it took some grave events to all people all over the globe that's why we should never be complacent all the time, follow strict protocols of hygiene all the time. We still be vaccinated but it's not for lifetime though, it's only a temporary. All things that were left is to lift our prayers to god for protection to our family with this virus and most importantly that we can go back to normal as much as possible.

With all the life that this pandemic took from many people, the crisis that we are now facing in life, poverty, health risk and the anxious that we feel every time we heard a new variant is developed, circulating and much more dangerous than the old variant I really would not second thought to get vaccinated. Vaccine is not mandatory only those who are willing to get a dose could have but we should consider the much higher risk if we are not vaccinated. So far being vaccinated and continue practicing safety precautions it is the best armour we could have right now.

At the beginning of the pandemic, the crisis began to hit so anxiety began to occur but over time now there has been 50% activity but it is still under government supervision so the crisis in humans is still happening right now, I think this pandemic will stay with us longer .

The new delta variant has also heard the news about this, this will be another concern for people around the world, can this vaccination be the most powerful effect? Some still continue to oppose it but indeed that is the only way to prevent it by treating it, even now there are many variants of vaccines with their respective doses, so what we need to know is to make good observations.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: mojun7982 on August 22, 2021, 06:17:55 PM
The pandemic changed the lives from all walks of life and it took some grave events to all people all over the globe that's why we should never be complacent all the time, follow strict protocols of hygiene all the time. We still be vaccinated but it's not for lifetime though, it's only a temporary. All things that were left is to lift our prayers to god for protection to our family with this virus and most importantly that we can go back to normal as much as possible.

With all the life that this pandemic took from many people, the crisis that we are now facing in life, poverty, health risk and the anxious that we feel every time we heard a new variant is developed, circulating and much more dangerous than the old variant I really would not second thought to get vaccinated. Vaccine is not mandatory only those who are willing to get a dose could have but we should consider the much higher risk if we are not vaccinated. So far being vaccinated and continue practicing safety precautions it is the best armour we could have right now.

At the beginning of the pandemic, the crisis began to hit so anxiety began to occur but over time now there has been 50% activity but it is still under government supervision so the crisis in humans is still happening right now, I think this pandemic will stay with us longer .

The new delta variant has also heard the news about this, this will be another concern for people around the world, can this vaccination be the most powerful effect? Some still continue to oppose it but indeed that is the only way to prevent it by treating it, even now there are many variants of vaccines with their respective doses, so what we need to know is to make good observations.

Yes that is what experts already say, the crisis will stay longer but in a different from that what we all went through so far. With vaccines and testing we are going towards a normal life in the not so distant future, at least they believe so. The big problem is the variants of this virus and that it can always mutate again. Nobody can predict how that will play out in the future.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Fredomago on August 22, 2021, 06:37:30 PM

At the beginning of the pandemic, the crisis began to hit so anxiety began to occur but over time now there has been 50% activity but it is still under government supervision so the crisis in humans is still happening right now, I think this pandemic will stay with us longer .

The new delta variant has also heard the news about this, this will be another concern for people around the world, can this vaccination be the most powerful effect? Some still continue to oppose it but indeed that is the only way to prevent it by treating it, even now there are many variants of vaccines with their respective doses, so what we need to know is to make good observations.

With the new variants which we don't have any clue if how many of them are there to hit us up. But we should continue to choose life and continue to observe if how we can prevent this virus.

Lesser chances of being contaminated is to be strong and not to lose hope, as long as we live we should move forward and hope for a better tomorrow this virus will stay at no period of time.

We have to be furios and alert, we have to follow safety protocols and the vaccines if possible, take the risk continuing life support to a much better chance not being infected.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: rosenbauer02 on August 22, 2021, 08:23:34 PM

At the beginning of the pandemic, the crisis began to hit so anxiety began to occur but over time now there has been 50% activity but it is still under government supervision so the crisis in humans is still happening right now, I think this pandemic will stay with us longer .

The new delta variant has also heard the news about this, this will be another concern for people around the world, can this vaccination be the most powerful effect? Some still continue to oppose it but indeed that is the only way to prevent it by treating it, even now there are many variants of vaccines with their respective doses, so what we need to know is to make good observations.

With the new variants which we don't have any clue if how many of them are there to hit us up. But we should continue to choose life and continue to observe if how we can prevent this virus.

Lesser chances of being contaminated is to be strong and not to lose hope, as long as we live we should move forward and hope for a better tomorrow this virus will stay at no period of time.

We have to be furios and alert, we have to follow safety protocols and the vaccines if possible, take the risk continuing life support to a much better chance not being infected.
This is what we should do. Feeling hopeless won't do good at all. Being positive will help us be thoughtful like making us remember what we should do before eating or doing things we do daily. Many have decided to fet vaccinated and some don't but still following safety precautions are most likely not to get infected either vaccinated or non-vaccinated.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: 7788bitcoin on August 22, 2021, 11:59:31 PM
This is what we should do. Feeling hopeless won't do good at all. Being positive will help us be thoughtful like making us remember what we should do before eating or doing things we do daily. Many have decided to fet vaccinated and some don't but still following safety precautions are most likely not to get infected either vaccinated or non-vaccinated.
When you live in a world when majority are ignorant about their own safety let alone the safety of others, you need to be careful because i am tired of going out during this period because of people roaming around without mask and the nerve to move like that is a concern for me as i am yet to get vaccinated as i am waiting out to see better results from the vaccines ;D .


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Sithara007 on August 23, 2021, 02:40:04 AM
When you live in a world when majority are ignorant about their own safety let alone the safety of others, you need to be careful because i am tired of going out during this period because of people roaming around without mask and the nerve to move like that is a concern for me as i am yet to get vaccinated as i am waiting out to see better results from the vaccines ;D .

Here also I am witnessing a lot of guys moving around without their masks. Some people think that doing so will make them look macho. But whenever I see someone without a mask, I try to keep some distance and stay away as far as I can. The cops have been penalizing those who come out without a mask, but these people fight with the cops as well. And social media is full of videos, which accuses the cops of disproportionate response. And less than 8% of the total population has been fully vaccinated in my country, which makes such behavior even more dangerous.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: Oasisman on August 23, 2021, 05:56:05 AM
When you live in a world when majority are ignorant about their own safety let alone the safety of others, you need to be careful because i am tired of going out during this period because of people roaming around without mask and the nerve to move like that is a concern for me as i am yet to get vaccinated as i am waiting out to see better results from the vaccines ;D .

Here also I am witnessing a lot of guys moving around without their masks. Some people think that doing so will make them look macho. But whenever I see someone without a mask, I try to keep some distance and stay away as far as I can. The cops have been penalizing those who come out without a mask, but these people fight with the cops as well. And social media is full of videos, which accuses the cops of disproportionate response. And less than 8% of the total population has been fully vaccinated in my country, which makes such behavior even more dangerous.

People from Vegas and some parts of the US and Canada is not wearing mask anymore because majority of their population has been vaccinated.
Whereas, In my country officials were still busy how they'll take advantage of the funds intended for the mass vaccination.
However, even If a person is fully vaccinated, travelling to other regions still requires antigen test and swab tests.

I don't believe the statistics anymore. Local government in my place had been constantly killing small businesses. So, I don't care much about people not wearing face mask. They're responsible of their own health anyway.


Title: Re: Die today, Die tommorrow, the same dying! still get vaccinated!
Post by: mojun7982 on August 23, 2021, 06:02:52 PM
When you live in a world when majority are ignorant about their own safety let alone the safety of others, you need to be careful because i am tired of going out during this period because of people roaming around without mask and the nerve to move like that is a concern for me as i am yet to get vaccinated as i am waiting out to see better results from the vaccines ;D .

Here also I am witnessing a lot of guys moving around without their masks. Some people think that doing so will make them look macho. But whenever I see someone without a mask, I try to keep some distance and stay away as far as I can. The cops have been penalizing those who come out without a mask, but these people fight with the cops as well. And social media is full of videos, which accuses the cops of disproportionate response. And less than 8% of the total population has been fully vaccinated in my country, which makes such behavior even more dangerous.

People from Vegas and some parts of the US and Canada is not wearing mask anymore because majority of their population has been vaccinated.
Whereas, In my country officials were still busy how they'll take advantage of the funds intended for the mass vaccination.
However, even If a person is fully vaccinated, travelling to other regions still requires antigen test and swab tests.

I don't believe the statistics anymore. Local government in my place had been constantly killing small businesses. So, I don't care much about people not wearing face mask. They're responsible of their own health anyway.

Yes they are responsible of their own wealth anyway is correct of course, but what if they are careless, catch the virus and infect someone who is in high danger when it comes to the virus? That is a different story to me and in fact a serious problem. If all those who don't want to get vaccinated or who don't wear masks anymore were isolated from those who take a lot of care, it wouldn't bother me, but this is a thing about society as a whole. I can be careless about my health, but can I also be careless about the health of others? My opinion is no, you can't.