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I’ve been watching many streamers on twitch and youtube for more than a years. I always craved to play gambling everytime I watch them winning huge amount. I find there video streaming very encouraging most of the time because I feel like I can win too everytime they are winning.

We all know that Drake is the most famous streamer on this industry but before Drake, There’s a lot pf streamer that is popular on the slot category on twitch. I prepared some data below on how much viewers interested on gambling streams compared to typical online games streams.


As you notice in the chart, Slots Channel got more viewers than other famous games such as Fortnite and CS:GO. This starts during pandemic which many streamers shift from online gaming to the onlime gambling category.

Many famous Casino is now doing partnership on different streamers. So in conclusion, Streamers contributes a lot on the increase of popularity of online gambling.

Chart Source: Twitchtracker.com

The Gambling companies are employing a very wise advertising strategy, what they are doing is, they are not only letting these streamers, * play for free * but if they are loyal to the company and also have loads of views, they are also getting * paid * which I do think is very effective since some people like the celebs were asked not to associate with the Gambling Companies on the public Platforms therefore the streamers Would be the next line of choice.

Other than that there are many individual streamers are well who are just gambling for Fun and are actually enjoying the whole system while making some money through views. Anyways with the rise of Gambling ( online) especially during the quarantine this was bound to happen.

^ So as they say, they were employed and they are playing the casino's money.
Their job seem easy to do though. And thats waht I'm more interested to do, become a streamer myself and get paid hired by a casino than trying out what they advertise.

Slot is easy to play and addicting, thats why its among the top. Grand thef I can understand since its fun, teens like it.

I don't watch any particular streamer for gambling categories because I got bored watching them pull bunch of spin without anything special as result. I just watch the compilation of successful hit on yourube from various livestreamers. The bad thing about this was my suggestion tab is now full by gambling videos. It's crap when someone saw my history and suggested videos.  :D

Is there a data that will show if online gambling becomes popular first before streamers started to hype them online. I want to know if online streamers makes the onling gambling trending during pandemic.

I will agree though, specially those streamers that shows very huge win, in the millions of dollars that maybe some will go and try it for themselves and see how their luck will be.

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

Although many streamers do it for fun or when they're bored, they unintentionally attract a lot of attention and end up getting paid for their efforts. The game indeed motivates you to play it since I've seen streamers play and it seems like even if that was their first time, they had a lot of luck. However, other players struggle to complete their goals, but it's great as long as they are having fun.

I don't really trust these stats, especially since I've been browsing the various channels on Twitch lately and noticed that slots are one of the favorite categories of streamers from the "just chatting" section. Basically, these are beautiful girls who lead their streams with clear goals (to increase their audience for other social networks, including paid ones, if you know what I mean). One of the easiest ways to create content for them is to play slots, which they do from time to time. I think most of the audience in this case looks not at the slots but at the girl.

If money is not involved, people that stream for just fun will reduce, even if not to zero, streamers can not just be streaming and devote that much time for nothing in return. Streamers see it as a means to make money, we should not just neglect that fact. Some streams are streaming just for the purpose to get more views and they also earn money in the process, but such streamsers will also still accept offers from casinos and earn more money. Just let us take it like this, what will be the reason why a streamer should not accept such offer when they are even streaming for money.

These streamers serve as Brand Ambassadors or Slot Ambassadors, some of them are paid to stream so that viewers are interested in the games being played. I've watched some streaming videos with big wins, then I think every time I watch streaming videos. why every time they stream they always get a big win, the question keeps popping up in my mind, because luck isn't always on the same person's side, so I tried to play slots on the same site, but the results were very disappointing.
Manipulation can be done on the slot that is being played, because the system can be set at any time by the owner of the slot.

Although I don't have enough knowledge about slot technicalities but slot games is under3rd party provider which means casino has no control on the result except if they request for a special slot software that is rigged but most of the streamers that usually hit jackpot are burning huge amount of money to bet multiple times just to hit the jackpot. They have huge bankroll to bet many times compared to normal players that has limited bankroll.

Not all streamers is sponsored because many of them are just streaming for views or referral commission earnings from there viewers. Only big time streamers is sponsored while the rest is just getting profit on streaming alone.

Lol, that is the problem with Youtube, once you browse a single category, it will suggest several channels in that category.  Anyway, I also like watching compilation of Big wins in gambling on YT, but I found
WatchGamesTV (https://www.youtube.com/c/WatchGamesTV) gambling videos very entertaining especially his reaction when his buy-in stunt doesn't go well.



Indeed it is very enticing to try the game when we watched a huge win on that kind of slot.


I wonder how can a casino rig the slot game while someone is conducting a promotional stream since the stream and casino operation is simultaneous if the Casino rigged the game in favor of the streamer then all the players playing that same game would have the advantage during the stream and might cause millions of losses to the casino.

I have been watching some slot streamers regularly. Just like when i watched xposed. To be honest they were affiliator rather than called all of them as real gamblers. I saw that thousands of people were also watching it for the entertain purpose only. The fact that if they were getting money from anyone who registered through their refferal. I called them all as affiliator. As far i as i know that account that used by strimer was different with the regular gamblers.

On this point, the "other games section" seems quite big as well as the lack of indication as to what happens if multiple tags are put on a stream or if the streamer changes game part way through.


It normally has the highest edge too (favouring the casino) as well as being fairly fast paced and needing fewer resources to run (especially compared with things like live tables).

Same as you mate actually if watch streams I did not focus on gambling they made but the mage itself just what I want to focus. Maybe during the pandemics streams makes online gambling trend. because during lock down they can not go to face to face gambling so they choose the internet.

Yes bigtime streamers got this kind of start in order to win and have extra money but not all streamers do this because some of them are they got paid by the viewers and followers .

It seems gambling sites found this also profitable. An average streamer can have a thousand viewers at a time easy. Casinos can easily get exposure just giving a streamer a sponsorship. And as most viewers are gullible, they can have new members if these streamers net big wins on their casinos. A very profitable business model. And we may see more of them in the future.



That is where the bulk of their income comes from. They cannot rely on payment from hours view to survive. Sponsorship and affiliation give them more money than they can earn from views.

I wouldn't really question it, the streaming industry just grows continuously imo, not just in terms of viewership in slots but in all aspects of entertainment in general. I think it's something rather natural we'd see, and I think there's still room for growth for it since we'd probably still see development from the streaming industry. Ofc, there's some part that probably wouldn't be accurate, but i think it still speaks of the state that casinos and streaming are in general.

Though tbf, rather than slots as a category it's more closer to a chatting stream imo with the reactions every now and then about the results.

I can relate on that during pandemic. We are forced leave on my previous job when pandemic first hit my country. I become more active in online gambling than before because I don't have anything to do in my house. I just realized that Online casino is already popular because there is a lot of gambling videos on youtube which is no there before the pandemic occured.

Right now aside from watching huge jackpot, I’m interested on watching too on biggest live streaming bust. Watching streamers losing huge amount via live sometimes very cool to watch. I used it as warning to myself when gambling huge amount.

It depends on the streamer that you are subscribing. Yes some streamers are using different account for streaming because of the balance they are using is from the casino itself. Most of the negotiation for partnership between streamers and casino is via online so it's safe for both parties to use a dedicated account for streaming that include gambling balance.

Affiliators or not, this is only based on how you view them. For some users that doesn't care about affiliate commission, they view streams like this as regular streams.

Yes, they could earn better through the number of views that they could gain through streaming. The number of streamers is continuously rising since we all know that there's a huge opportunity to earn on it. There are lots of gamblers and viewers who find watching gambling streamers entertaining so it's an open opportunity for everyone to stream. They could earn through sponsorships and partnerships which is really a big edge to survive the inflation crisis this year.

The marketing landscape changes from time to time. Few yeard back, we didn't know about Tiktok, Twitch etc. But now they are very much mainstream for marketing almost anything. Streaming is one of such areas which are used heavily for marketing nowadays. There's no surprise!

But if you are seeing these streamers are making a ton of money, that's most probably a got up game. These are used for marketing so that a common viewers gets excited and start playing with them. A simple psychological trick!

Gambling houses made big money when BTC bubbled and are still making good money today.  They want to make sure that they grow their market share from here to really profit from the next cycle.  That's leading to increased advertising spending across the board.  Most recently, sponsoring youtubers like Stevewilldoit and the Nelk Boys, along with even celebrities like Drake so that they make these videos.  I doubt many of the people streaming these gambling sessions are doing so without sponsorships, so this rise shows you just how competitive of a market it is for advertisers.

I agree, the streaming industry is growing in the last few years... it's a natural process, and I also think it will continue to grow! Pandemic probably affected the speed of growth, and people were forced to stay at home and the internet was the only source of fun and for many people source of income! That's a great combination for sure, making money and enjoying while you do it, and I guess streaming is all about that... you enjoy doing something while you get paid for that!

You guessed it mate.
I don't think that choosing the marketing path by livestreaming will not hold the suspicion of some viewers, especially from the pov of people who are skeptical of fishy promotions. Sometimes their reactions are exaggerated and the opposite of normal gamblers, I mean they don't seem to feel any remorse even with heavy losses. They really affect the psychology of viewers that defeat is not an excuse to dim the spirit to continue betting.

Can there performance really be manipulated by the casino company for a big win so that more viewers are won and signing up with the streamers can increase the numbers of people playing in the casino? Well this is a wide thought but if this is possible to happen it means casino games itself can be manipulated against the gambler.

I search on Youtube "big win Swords and Holy Grail" which is the name of the slot I am about to play,it gives me a great dose of optimism before I actually go and play.If you also see that,you will see that they are playing with maximum bet most of the time which means they are most likely being paid to show those big wins and no normal person on earth would play with 100 EUR/USD per spin,that nowadays is a significant amount for almost everyone of us who rely on our daily jobs to make end months.Still though thankfully such channels exist as you can see what can be a true "huge win" and not our huge wins with much lower bets than them.I think they do more good than harm,those channels.

Aren't we've seen some celebs that do it? For example, Drake. He literally streams whenever he's doing the gambling thing and there are lot of other streamers too that do it. Let's say, it's one way of spreading adoption in the gambling space and it has more reach just like an advertisement in a tv network, streams is globally too and there are lot of casinos paid streamers or they're getting incentives just by promoting it on their streams.

The streaming industry can be growing and that's nothing bad or weird, but the fact that slots streaming is so high on twitch is very strange. I agree with suspicions of others here in the thread that these stats could be manipulated. I don't see how so many people would be watching someone play slots, which is really boring even if you play it yourself. Watching others play is a great way to fall asleep. I'd rather watch someone play CSGO or something else if I had the choice.

You have some nice points... we had that "drama" about twitch and slot streaming there, who followed that could see how casinos and some streamers manipulate with masses, mostly young people...

But I follow some guys and girls from the Gosu group! Normal and regular people playing slots with some normal bankroll (under $1k)... it's fun, chat is burning when some known people gather and it can be very interesting!

You would watch someone play CSGO, I don't like that... I rather choose League of Legends when it comes to games, I follow Balkan League (EBL)! We can agree it's all about taste, I like to play slots, and I like to watch others doing it if there's some additional fun, in my case that's chat... as I said I support some people I know for a long time from crypto gambling! Definitely, it's not something I am doing every day, it's fun from time to time...

They are using every marketing strategy or resource that they could and that's good for them. I watched the Champagne papi gamble once and his patterns to gaming and stakes where just something I wouldn't try and he surely made it fun with the casino girls and the wins were appealing. Although, there are chances that these guys are just gambling on casino funds in making these promotions for Stakes as we know Drake to have some affiliation with Stakes. It's clearly a success for them as it brings some entertainment to the game, generate traffic and wins over some customers too.

And there was also one discussion about these streamers about being funded by the gambling sites to play more and stream it live.
I don't know about their winnings though if they are really given to them in full amount because first of all, it all came from the funds of the site they are playing at.
Their emotions when winning though is kind of real as I watched a lot of them too especially the ones playing slots.
It's a blow to the site if ever they won't give something in return to these guys if ever they won a jackpot. Maybe a part of it should be shared with them or just subtract the amount given to them and some interest.

streamers have become a job for many influencers nowadays, and many sites also provide referral programs for their site users, I have also watched gambling streamers several times and they invite viewers to register via their referral link. from here I see that both the streamer and the gambling site are mutually beneficial. the more bonuses are given to streamers, the more streamers who try to make their audience play online gambling, and online gambling grow.

This is quite possible. In addition, in Twitch as well as on other platforms, it is possible to buy subscribers and the number of views. So I think that this statistic may be different from reality. I tried to watch streams with gambling, but I did not get the pleasure that brings me gambling. Maybe such streams are watched by those people who do not play gambling themselves because they cannot afford it?

Thats not really the case for some streamer. Most streamers have an upfront payment for X amount that should be used as balances throughout the entire months of streaming and wether the streamer makes profit out of those upfront payment is pretty much a different story. Most streamers ended up making way less then what they received upfront so its a beneficial situation for both party

Inded, I admit that streamers also made online gambling more popular, but they also got paid for it. They get a lot of profit from site, then advertising and broadcasting, if we look at the youtube channel there are many other benefits. Attracting more people to gamble, that's their a job when they become streamers but the good news is they don't hesitate to share with their viewers if win.

The reason because not most people change to stream gambling with sponsors, I guess because the deal they cannot refue. Example TrainWreck from Game Stream to Casino Stream, they have huge follower. If you want to know, how work the sponsor system like how the casino is contacting each stream for the deal. I suggest to you watch "OrdinaryGames" video on youtube.

He the one who reveal a deal casino between stream.

I don't know that slot streamers are dominating the streaming industry today in online gambling. I'm used to watching E-games-related streams although in some cases, the content is not really gambling-related but rather just usual content where they will play the game and entertained their viewers.

I'm also not a fan of slot-games-based content as I don't find it interesting due to the fact that it might just be a paid promotion and these streamers are not using their real credits but it was funded instead by the site they are promoting. Maybe if there are giveaways I will try it but the interest is not really there.

Thanks for the share, OP.

You need to know that there is nothing impossible with some of this big company and they can choose to manipulate things but that might to noticed if something like that happened and it can end up in a big sanctions making them to lose trust gamblers had for them. I can see that more people enjoy streaming Slot which shows that there are more lovers for slot game than others. Slot is a low risk game that is more better than most of those games that need higher risk to earn bigger profits.

if you are watching these streamers, at some point, you will know which ones are rigged or not. check how they edit their videos, you can see the transitions. you will get an idea if there are some manipulations on the game how they create their videos, be very vigilant. but let's say for example, drake streaming his games, i don't think they will resort to manipulation. i am not biased, but i think they won't do anything that will screw up the reputation of stake.

Do we have a source on what platform is the most used in online gambling streams regardless of fiat or crypto gambling?

Is it Twitch?
Is it Youtube?

Mostly, Youtube live streams are mostly online games with no gambling related. They just show their character progress (in terms of MMORPG), skills and strategies (in terms of MOBA and shooting games), etc.

For Twitch, I think this is the most used platform for streaming gambling-related content.

Maybe Twitch is not that strict when it comes to gambling content unlike Youtube so we often see gambling-related content on Youtube. Just my own guess.

This is the same question that I wanted to ask. My guess is that online gambling became more popular with the increased usage of smartphones and the wider or improved internet adoption. The marketing strategy of approaching these streamers and influencers most likely helped promote the industry to these audiences.

Most definitely. I've already read reports that gambling increased during the pandemic. It even came to the point where streamers were banned for sharing gambling sites https://www.casinous.com/twitch-bans-content-with-gambling-links

It's a win-win situation both for the streamers and the gambling companies. The online streamers get paid to do what they love doing and even when they "lose", they still win. And on the other the gambling companies, it is a cheap and stress-free advert for their companies. I am not surprised that the Slots Channel got more viewers than other famous games who doesn't like slot games. They are interesting easy and I find them quite interesting and exciting to play.

Streaming! has never been in decline, since streaming began, It has not stopped growing and I get the feeling that the big chains are overwhelming the individuals, youtubers, influencers, they are a force that drives the market and they have followers, but specialized networks or brands have exclusive channels dedicated to the continuous transmission of the game onlineand they are gradually taking a large sector of followers of that type of content.

On the side that my interest,  sites like PS, WPT, GG, GoPoker are companies dedicated 24 hours to creating content, in a certain way this is becoming more and more specialized and the youtubers who eventually record themselves in sections and upload their videos by hand will continue to exist, but that content is going to be formalized every time.

Only applied though at those popular streamers already or something along those lines.

Those small streamers or still in the progress of getting names, spend their own money to play at those slot-based content. They are creating names for the gambling site they are promoting to catch their attention and if by luck, a partnership will be formed.

However, not all streamers ended up successfully.

There are streamers who have already spent big on their operation cost but their journey still fails no matter how big the effort they did.

These people earn a lot of money from sponsors to do these broadcasts.
And it is precisely because they encourage viewers to play and win that sites invest a lot in these streamers.

I could be wrong, but I believe that there is a lot of fake play in these broadcasts, not only fake money/simulations but also an plataform specially prepared for the player to have more chances to win, and thus encourage other people that was watching.
I am in favor of platforms like twitch and youtube implementing stricter rules for broadcasting gambling games.

I understand that feeling. I watched a gambling stream before because of recommendations. While watching, the streamer is always Lucky and always hitting good multipliers on its session. What luck! I decide to read the video caption and details and follow all the links there as I also want to experience how lucky I am. I already forget the site's name and the streaming platform where I watched it.

After registering and playing on that site, the result is horrible. Not even a chance to hit good multipliers. I was tempted because of that streamer's big luck and now I learned my lesson not just to follow easily. That was way back I'm still new to gambling, especially at slot games, and the reason why I easily hooked up is because of my lack of experience in gambling.

This is how they market there products/company and finding the right people will come to them in no time just by making these streamers keep winning on their platform which is interesting to others who didn't know what was going on. But it's actually a trap if you are new to the market and this is not just happening in online since I've seen this happening in real world too. It's like a strategic marketing to attract potential gamblers to come.

They are making it look as if its easy to make money through gambling online obviously they get to be paid or they are just using the affiliate link for signups. I'm not really sure how true that they are paid by the casino but its highly likely.

Bitcoin casino obviously has to advertise on crypto community, somehow I don't consider youtube or twitch to have a enormous amount of lurking crypto gamblers. The ones who are lost and ended on twitch are probably looking for new strategy.

Also, there go the esports streamers that they're being sponsored by casinos. Just like with stake, they've got Dendi on their back and sponsored him, he's a well-known Dota 2 player and also a TI champ. The online gambling industry and business is thriving and that's why in every way that they can advertise and get exposure, it's in line together with their plans of acquiring more players for them through those visuals from the professional esports players or just those typical streamers that have a wide-range of views and engagements.

Drake's stream was really on the higher level.

He is betting over a thousand dollars at those games he selected and the winnings are truly amazing that every viewer will really have a mindset to feel the same experience. His influence really gives Stake wonderful exposure.

I was able to watch one of his streams and the amount he is wagering is damn out of human capability at most lol. Don't know if it's covered by Stake but surely before his partnership, he is really a hard gambler who spend big money on his gambling activity.

Can we trust those streamers of gambling exactly?
Some of them may be paid by the gambling platforms. That s why sometimes it may not be as we expect about the result. I saw several times how easy they are when they are winning the gambling on some certain platforms and they could get big earning or rewards from the gambling platform. But, in this case, we may not be able to do it by ourselves. Is it related to the codnition in which most of streamers are paid by certain gambling platform to advertsie their platfomr actually?

That is the thing, gambling can be incredibly fun when we are the ones playing but watching someone else gambling is quite boring if you ask me, so it is interesting that people are taking the time to watch other people gambling and it is reasonably popular, and not only that the gambling game that is there at the top 10 is slots, which has never been a favorite game of mine as I have always thought that it is just too repetitive for my tastes.

Agreed just like me watching them caused by i do like how entertain they are. I meant any reaction that was coming when they were getting big multiplier once playing zeus or bonanza pretty similar like watching the commedy. That makes me feel happy although i knew that if that looks so unreal. I have been also watching local slot players that was also actively doing stream on youtube as well.

And they is why casinos are hiring streamer to stream games. I bet most of the streamers aren't allowed to pocket any of those money they win. They are payed some fixed fee by the casino for streaming while funds are also provided by them which they can't withdraw but use as they like in the casino. Hence the streamers have no fear of losing anything, so they keep on making insane bets and do win some of them, tempting the viewers to place bets. They wouldn't be betting the same way if they were using their own funds!

Some of these streamers are partnered with the casino that they are playing on to rake in new players. That is how they advertise their platform nowadays: showing people that it's possible to win big on these casinos and that they are very capable of doing the same. I've noticed that these streamers are hyping up their rather common gambling session and that they continuously point out the pros of the platform, without even mentioning the negatives on the place that they are playing on.

It's advertisement and if you fall for it then it's your fault. You've seen someone winning huge amount of money and they you are instantly magnetized then look at the website, deposit money and at the end of the night, you just don't know, maybe you are losing instead of getting a profit just like what the streamer shows. So it's good for casino to tap into this niche sort of using youtube influencers to create hype on their casino.

Live streamers are now among the important promoters of casinos. I guess it's the thrill and excitement of the live and actual games that these streamers provide to their audience that make live streaming a good way to promote a casino. It is a lot difference from other marketing strategies like through ads. A certain casino brand printed on a jersey or displayed on a magazine or whatever can't compare to the effects of live streaming.

That is interesting. I watch a lot of Twitch on my free time but somehow never came across a slots stream. I do see Poker being pushed up front once in a while though. I guess they are avoiding promoting slots just in case there are minors watching the stream and could get addicted and try it. Slots is a very fun game to play but I'm not sure if its equally rewarding to watch them. The sounds and attractive lights makes up for it I suppose. I don't play slots generally because it is completely dependent on luck and not skill. You could try to bankroll manage it but it somehow just doesnt feel like I could say with confidence that I'll have a positive gambling session.

Actually online streamers is a big help for us to make huge profits as well by following them everytime they gamble and copying the way they play and what kind of strategy they're using why they're winning. but of course we must bear in our mind to set our own rules when it comes placing an amount of money because we cannot afford what they can afford to lose.. What i mean is never ever put your entire money because of some reason that your favourite streamers is confident on their bets. Much better tp always set an amount what you can afford to lose as well to prevent regrets!

Talking about casino gambling circulating on youtube, there are 2 possibilities, he can get a win by accident or he wins by setting, for example, there is already a contract agreement for this gambling and the account owned by the youtuber will be set to be able to get a win easily with provide additional scripts at the gambling place for youtubers who had an agreement at the beginning, of course this method might happen because it is very easy for developers or programmers to provide such access.

There are actually quite a few streamers playing for their own money, but as my marketing experience. And I can also tell you that some streamers will have sponsors from online casino websites to invite them to play and make videos with free credits, and indirectly advertise it to attract subscribers and I am also happy to see it and indeed it will make people want to do it.

I think the rise of streamers is happening everywhere. Not only in online gambling. I would not be surprised if we soon see streamers react to gore videos or some other taboo stuff. The entertainment culture of the internet is shifting towards watching more, not doing more. So we now watch people who do something. Its very strange and a bit saddening if you think about it.

Honestly I do watch a good streamer every now and then so I have no say in any of the matter but online gambling streamers might be a funny idea. Especially their reactions during winning or losing might make good view content alone.

I think that gambling should be banned from Twitch. Just like many e-thot female streamers were banned from the platform, because they were showing nudity and acting seductive. That was basically soft-porn and it won't be tolerated by Twitch. Gambling shouldn't be tolerated as well.
Lots of kids and teenagers are using this platform and watching streams. They could get easily addicted to gambling.
I never really got into this "streaming" trend. I don't like watching streams, so maybe I'm a bit biased here.
Another thing is that Twitch streamers have to publicly disclose that they are gambling with the casino's money and not with their own. Otherwise it seems kinda misleading.

Also this is more effective and relatively cheaper for promotion than doing with some celebrity and all the channels since it reaches the exact audience also the streamers also getting good revenue so they are increasing which itself a ln attractive thing in the online world so more people are really going to try it and talk about it. I love watching these gambling as well but we need to keep remember most of them were sponsored by the company itself so they are not losing anything but its not the same way when we do this.

It is undeniable that slot games have a very pleasing graphic appearance, especially when they get a win, which is why they are the most watched. Been watching streamers but stopped doing it because honestly watching them can be very tempting to play, although it really depends on how the streamer brings their stream because there are streamers who are also boring.
The growth of online casinos has made many streamers appear and casinos see this as a way to promote their casinos, so this is a mutually beneficial partnership for both of them

It's basically a type of advertisement for the casinos.

Streamers are not getting into every single category of life, and they're creating content for whoever pays for them

Casinos are happy to pay a content creator to showcase their casinos, because it makes it easier for other people to gamble there once they've seen how it works.

YouTube, twitch, and others, are basically the new advertising platform. People watch videos there for free, so they are advertised many products, including casinos

yeah, seems easy to do but it is actually not. don't get me wrong, I don't glorify streamers but if you want to actually be hired by casinos to stream while playing on their gambling site with their money you'd need to build enough audience and keep that audience watching your streams, which is not easy to do.

In this case, bookmakers and casinos have adapted to our times. Everything evolves and so does advertising. With the number of followers that some streamers have, this advertising is much more effective than traditional advertising, so they should get a good return on your investment by paying these streamers.

As of lately, the demand for online gambling is increasing rapidly. Basically entertainment and the relationship with money is adding a new dimension to the gamblers interest. Streamers are playing a unique role behind this. As soon as a new game release contemporary time the streamers are trying to present to the players and give their solutions to all the issues in live so that a player can understand easily. Now a days some streamers are being a important part of any casino or gambling company, in some causes a owner take them as partners according to their importance.

Definitely no beginner streamer that will not play from his own money, that is normal because the streamer do not have viewers or enough viewers yet, but once the streamer have enough viewers which should be their first goal, they start making money from views, but their second goal will be about them working for gambling companies, to help the gambling sites to promote their services and offers and site generally, the gambler sites also will give them free bets/offers to gamble with while some streamers will even be paid.

I love watching those streamers with unique expressions about their wins. I don't know the name of that one guy that literally rolled on the floor after hitting a great match at slots. Then, there's one chubby guy too whose face was filled with emotion after also hitting a big win.
In terms of contributions to the gambling industry, yes I think they are very helpful and I am glad they are putting efforts at recording themselves during playtime.
I have the equipment but I don't have the courage to put my face online and live stream it.

One of the marketing strategies today of the gambling casino is having a partnership with the streamers which is to have a lot of followers, by that they are giving those streamers a voucher to make a deposit to their platform and play in the public streams, afaik the one of the known social media platform Facebook preventing have this instead the gambling casino just only have the promoting of vids and not like the actual playing of it instead just promoting with the use of banners and logo. Still i guess the streamers are the one responsible with their promoting if there's some issue happen with the funds of their followers.

Well, there were a lot of reaction videos on YouTube and honestly they're something that doesn't make any sense to me lol, because they're not actually doing something besides watching a specific videos and make opinions on what they have just seen. Streamers switching to reaction videos than actual playing online games or gambling is the worse thing that will happen to their streaming career.

I myself also watch entertaining online game streamers, but not much with gambling as some of these streamers were being paid to entice people to gamble as if it is easy to win bigger stakes.

I believe you are pertaining on facebook and they are really sucks for too much censorship. Gambling is part of the entertainment industry before they were established. Twitch and Youtube are the main platforms which this gambling streaming popular. I think this online gambling craze will gonna last longer because the number of streamers and interested viewers for this genre is incrasing overtime.

Of course streamers are responsible for advertised gambling sites or bookmaker's offices. But the fact is that in the case of fraud of the advertised company to bring streamers to responsibility is very difficult, so few of them are really responsible for their activities. If you notice there are a lot of fraudulent projects and ponzi schemes advertised on the Internet, bloggers and streamers are happy to promote them.

Yeah, so this youtubers have been venturing out as well in the last 2-3 years, going to Twitch and making more money that monetizing in Youtube hehehe.

Seen some as well, but something tells me that this are obviously paid ads as what the majority says. So they will have to act "naturally", but gamblers are too smart to fall for that kind of trick. We see genuine reaction of people winning in a traditional based casino, but this streamers? hmm, different reactions.

There is already a big storm on Reddit and some official discord of those big streamers. They said clearly that they don't want to promote this stuff but they are being paid to well to not accept the deal. Per example , TrainwrecksTV is making a ton of money everyday he streams slots on Twitch and the sames goes for XQC when he streams but they became addicts without even notice this and they lost a lot of money from their own pocket as well. At this point I suppose none of them really wants to stop streaming or playing slots and also Twich policy cannot do anything against this. I mean ...they have hot tubs and all that but Twitch was designed by gamers for gamers.

But if the streamer is also playing with the same system then it won't be a problem, but if the streamer is playing with a different system that has been designed to win then it will be dangerous. I realize that slot games are improving and many ordinary people keep failing, but they keep trying because they are influenced by video streamers who continue to win big numbers. Actually it wouldn't be a problem if they weren't distinguished, but if there was cheating in them then they were very dangerous to use.

I watch the story of XQC he lost everything that he earned on gambling and decided to take a break and promise to not do gambling again but here he are again streaming and gambling as if nothing happened to them. This gambling promotion by streamer is a double edge sword for them because they will become addicted eventually if they are continuously playing slots on there streams as part of there daily life.

Streamer is playing same system most of the time but maybe some of them play on modified games. I watch many popular streamers live stream before including Drake, I don’t see any shady results on there bets besides there emotion when losing huge money. Most of the streamers with huge bankroll only win huge amount because they are betting huge amount too and not all the time they are winning during there streams unlike what other picture out that they are always winning jackpot prize. You check there stream channel to verify on often they win huge amount compared to what they are losing on all of there gambling session.

That's the problem I think all gamblers will face if they can't take a break from gambling.
Losing everything they gain from gambling is something they will gain if they cannot realize the dangers of gambling.
The promotion of gambling by this streamer is very helpful for casinos who want to grow their business and for those who watch and end up playing gambling, they must be careful and don't get carried away with gambling.
The streamers do their job to help promote but viewers must take responsibility for themselves if they decide to try gambling.

I remember here in the gambling section there was a topic about whether casino advertising should be considered fraudulent, since streamers often play not for real money, but for advertising/fake ones. That is, if we see how a streamer plays with a $5,000 deposit and loses it (or wins something), it doesn’t really mean anything, since the casino just gives them this money for advertising streams. Therefore, it is naive to claim that some streamer became addicted or lost money from his own pocket - we have no evidence to be sure that this actually happened.

Well, I agree with you, maybe I am here who rarely watch streams on Twitch network especially for slot gambling, but I often see many streamers on other channel networks. 
there are many irregularities after I observed carefully, most of them are just doing promotions, I'm not saying that the streamers as a whole are endorsements of fiat based online casinos, maybe there are some streamers who use their personal money for fun and broadcast it on the network. 

I assume it's not much different than streamers who do it on other channels for example YT, I suspect as you said most of what they play is not real money.

But it's hard to differentiate who's who, who is playing real or fake money.

You just have to think about it, someone is playing with max bet of $100.00 living in the basement of his parents house. So if you do the numbers, $50k maybe in a week or two? $100k in a month? How can this live streamers can play with that huge money and all they streaming is the amount they won?

And then majority of them are playing in a second or even mid tier casino, yeah this is probably a setup but for now no one is going to admit it. Of course, it's really up to us to judge them.

I'd like to believe that there are many fake streamers trying to manipulate the results, they are being paid by casinos to make it look like its easy to win in the casino they advertise, they are not spending their own money, why would they if they want the casino to look good they will strike a deal on the casino that they are going to promote.
That is casino streaming is a very popular advertising preferred by casinos because the audiences see the streamer's winnings and they are enticed to play in the casino, hoping to get the same results.

I don't think a real high-roller gambler would want to stream his gambling because if people knows he can afford to do that then he is putting his life in danger. These people who streams online gambling are sponsored by the casino to promote their platform and often done by small-time streamers. Streamers with a huge number of followers will usually decline these offers as it can ruin their reputation in the industry and it can cause conflict with their other sponsors.

Not be so paranoid about security, but I remember seeing some videos or some clip online doing this and it doesn't matter to them so you can say it's okay for them.

Mentioning about a high roller gambler doing streams, well, they have their own security measurements of course, rich people wont just walking on unsafe place alone. Or living in a simple house without any kind of securirty knowing his making huge profits and do high rolls.

Would you mind giving examples of this fake streams that manipulate results? Seems a huge claim to be exact. If it's an advertisements that saying you can win $xxxx when playing or gambling then it's bullshit and that's fake, gambling is not designed to make someone rich unless you're already rich. But if it's just a stream review to check and experience the website of course the gambling will provide the streamer's account balance to play for free, then i guess that's okay, as long there's no too good to be true offers there.

Maybe manipulation is possible in streaming and this could make more meaning because it is about advertising and business. The casino wants more player and can only get that large following to play if they have showcase someone as streamer playing with them and winning big. Again getting celebrity who is real or not can influence the people to join the casino. During the time drake had a big win with stake.com I guess the company was in the public and that increased their followers too.

If they're in a partnership or are being sponsored by a certain casino site, manipulation just to attract more players is possible. They could show a continuous winning record and big amount of winning prizes so more players will get interested on the site that they're promoting. It's fine to watch for entertainment but we better be careful because we might fall into the trap of those who are trying to gain more players.

Can't agree anymore, when someone see a gambler who bet with huge amount of money, they will know those bet amount is just like a peanut for him. Many beggars will start begging to give them some part of the gambler money, but sometime it can boost the reputation of the gambler since anyone will start following him and do same thing to get a share.

Exactly. With the rise of streamers in online gambling, the online gambling casinos have found a new way to advertise. This is very important for the casinos because their advertising options have become very limited due to all the government regulations. Especially those regarding not advertising to young adults and children.

But with streamers, its not really considered advertising, is it? So its kind of a loop-hole.

Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the future brings us. Hopefully we won't see 10 year olds stealing their parents money just to satisfy their newfound gambling habit. ???

That's the bad side of it, they can really get new members that will join their casino or that gambling site but they cannot monitor if their players are in the legal age, except if they want to implement KYC. I also saw some streamers in fb promoting some online casino/online betting website  with "licensed to operate by the government *, we can say that their website is legal yes that's correct, but what I am concern is Younger age who follows they can be curious about that ads, so sometimes they will try to make a bet because the steamer they are following is promoting that website.

Well, not just in online gambling alone, streamers contributed greatly to the popularity of what ever they are streaming about.
I remember those days when I depended majorly on YouTubers to decide which crypto coin to invest it, that is, I buy any coin mentioned by the youtubers I follow and watch their streams.
It is majorly the same thing in gambling, after watching a stream and saw how the host won the bet or gamble, it is not out of place to feel anxious to play and try to win like you just watched the streamer do, but be careful, most of those winnings you see happen in a live stream are all staged, that is they are fake, if you need to know how this is done, give me green light, and I will explain further.

With the effects of pandemic lingering, most players have shifted their interests in online gambling rather than physical gambling. This is also the reason on why anything related with doing something online is more famous nowadays. Though this may be the case, this can potentially increase the number of users and underage players attempting to do online gambling.

Twitch.tv is considered one of the biggest streaming websites globally. A person can visit the webpage at any age, thereby increasing the risks of underage teenagers being swallowed by their curiosity to try doing online gambling. I hope that Twitch balances the interests of these streamers and the welfare of these teenagers of the risk suffering from addiction.

Anonymity is one of the basic characteristic of a crypto casino and it's hard for casino to know if their players are minor or not unless they do KYC. A steamer can't do anything if an underage really want's to play on a crypto casino. The streamer can only tell his underage audience to don't play on gambling casino because it's for adults only. But remember it's not easy for kids to acquire crypto right, It's possible that they can get some but it would be hard on them especially if they are just hooked in cryptocurrency just because of crypto casino.

I would have to disagree with you on that point. Kids can easily get crypto if they want. Especially if their parents have crypto already. Or an old traditional credit card. Heck, they could even have it be as easy as stealing a few dollars our of mom's purse.

Also, most crypto casinos which operate by laws set in place by their government. Usually this includes KYC but this is not always the case. We know there are unchecked crypto casinos being run by anonymous people in lands without strict KYC laws.

We should take it a bit more seriously, otherwise this new trend can have a bad effect on kids.

Cant really be avoided considering that people could definitely see on whats been streamed and since younger generations are really that having exposure on social media then it wouldnt be surprising
that they would really be making themselves to be that curious on what it is and would really be likely that they would be trying it out and this is one of the con's on having these streams.
Streamers wont really care out about their audiences as long they are getting paid on running those streams then minding about being ethical or not wouldnt really be their priority.
Therefore, this would be entirely be depending on someones decision and of course parenting of these children or young minds would also make out some effect.

in my country there is a gambling casino streamer. In the storyline, this famous streamer makes a video between the casino owners having a discussion who is reluctant to make another gambling ad/renewal of the contract. because he feels guilty for making an advertising video that makes his followers/viewers mentally damaged excessively. so the streamers are given an account from the casino to play, the account has been set from the founder's side which makes the streamers win continuously in the large amount they get. I think soccer betting or sports betting can be said to be more effective

I don't really care to watch streamers streaming slot games from a casino or a gambling site but I am surprised that slots are in the top list. My thoughts is because casinos want to make their casino be known to many using social media platforms and even partnering up with streamers then both side can achieve their goal where the streamers earn and the casino is advertised. It's a win-win situation for both party. It's business after all.

You wont really be seeing those streams who do involved on sports betting considering that results are too long to wait for viewers to look upon thats why its quite irrelevant and if you do
look around then most streamers would really be showing off casino related games which its really normal for them to advertise or stream out.I agree on whats been said above
that these streamers wont care on whose gonna see their stream as long they had made their job and  making money or income with it then ethical aspect or talks would be surely ignored.
Even myself be putting up on a situation where i do earn good money via streaming then i wouldnt care at all.

Maybe there are streamers which are sponsored and then after they have done their jobs, they will switch on their main account and gamble for real and maybe they have another streaming account only to stream their real game. While there are also streamers which don't have any sponsorship and only play using their own money.

It can be noticeable because their bankroll is not that big enough and also they are more careful with their moves. Seeing sponsored streamers play can entertain us not only because they are betting with bigger amounts and playing on a high risks games but also because of their awesome commentaries.

It's definitely interesting to see how popular these channels are and it baffles me why anyone would want to watch someone playing slots over a long time. I could understand possibly that people watch intense, action packed shooters or racing games, which maybe have players utilizing the most powerful graphic cards around. Casino games are so dreary and predictable, basically designed to sap your money over the long term. As for the players themselves, it makes me question whether some of them are fake and are using accounts possibly funded by the casino companies or maybe even the winnings are tweaked in an attempt to draw in more players from the people watching.

I would not exaggerate the rationality of people. Even if 9 out of 10 think rationally, the 10th, because of the desire to get fame, will act as stupid as possible. Many high rollers brag about their wins/losses and if they are streamers then I am 100% sure that they can not abstain from publish such content because games for large amounts are interesting for a large audience.

I don't watch them too. I think Drake was the only one I watched and it was fun, I admit it, because the guy is a joker, but apart from that, I wouldn't start playing a game because a streamer does it. Some people must be doing it though, otherwise casinos wouldn't be paying those streamers so much money.
I also think the stats are fake. Come on, slots? Slots aren't that entertaining. Maybe if they were playing pc shooters like CoD for money people would watch them. Who wants to see an online slot machine rolling? :D

It isn't surprising to see slots streams on the top list.  There are lots of gamblers around the world.  And many of them wonder how a slots work, how it bonus works, how much it would pay and the volatility of the slots, so they tend to watch streamers besides, most streams have giveaways.  The giveaway may be the main reason why gambling games such as slots are one of the top lists.

I think its popularity has brought due to the interest of many on actual casinos and how this game works.
Aside from being fun, it is really enjoyable just to watch a streamer that plays with a slot and other gambling games too.
So, those money that they show to their audience or viewers, it is intriguing and attracting whether they are for real or not.

Yes that it is since the number of users who want to enjoy online that's why they see a opportunity to earn that's why we see them participate on promoting a gambling site at the moment. It's really fun to see them playing because we can get an idea with them on the style they are using because we could replicate it and have fun to, but what bad thing their if the influencer is just hyping certain casino and offer to good to be true to their audience then they are not really fun to watch.

^ There are too many reasons why there are too many streamers now has been involved in gambling, but the main purpose is the money that they will get from the casino and there are too many answers to how they will use the money, and probably, it depends on them. Streamers are very popular for the marketing promotion in gambling casinos that will surely lure gamblers to visit the casino site. We wonder why the gambling casino has been raised now because the gambling industry has been also widely increased, the competition becomes very hot and that is why promotion is quite good to take advantage of other gambling casinos.

Trust is a big thing. It's good to just watch them NOT for the purpose that you will believe that something magical or lucky moment will happen to you too the same as those streamers whenever they hit a jackpot, won big, always hit big multipliers, and so on.

Just enjoy the show. You don't need to follow the exact thing that streamers do. They do it obviously for their own content as part of their page or video monetization or might be they are partnered with the gambling site. Aside from that, we should all have that mindset whether to understand what we are watching is either trash or not.

This is kind of promotion for different platforms. In the past we used to see YouTube videos for the streamers making money and try their strategies. Now this has turned to be a way of promoting respective platforms and get paid. If we look upon the streamers it looks like they're spending big and making big money. The reality, they're funded by the gambling platforms and they play without the fear of losing which for sure brings in profit.

Wont limit out on gambling industry but also in other industries as well which do really involves marketing where it do share up on the same reason on getting some ads and marketing on a specific company
and we know that generating money or income with this kind of work is much more better rather than having a day job which do pay less and when the trend is heard then you would definitely expect
that lots would be jumping in and would do the same because they do know that money making on an easy way is just not comparable in todays physical job or going
to offices.

100% the pandemic helped in the growth. I mean look at the recent trend of Vtubers (Virtual Youtubers) recently, it was the pandemic that popped them up so quickly into the mainstream (which I doubt would also have happened without the pandemic, but with more time) as well as digital payments all over the globe together with delivery apps and the like.

That's for famous people. And content creation isn't something easy, you're severely underestimating it imo if you just sum it up as an "easy way", especially the building up the reputation part. It's just like in casinos tbf, takes time and takes a lot of marketing and stuff like that.

I do agree with what you have said above. It can be said that if they were not even using pennies to bet. They were always getting big multipliers once i hate to say that if that was so difficult to get it. I have no doubt if they can gamble bunch of money caused by the gambling platform itself already given a VIP access to the streamer. That's why some streamers are starting to move to playing slots or something else.

I think it's either the company hire them or this Youtubers just decided to go to other platforms and then promotions just started coming. So it's easy for them to make money and then promote the casinos. And maybe the casino too is feeding them with money so that they can able to sustain their play in live audience with huge bet on the screens. And that's why they are not afraid to go with max bets and not fear of losing because it's not their money anyway.

Well, I'm not sure if they are making more money by being paid to advertise the casino.

You never know actually what's the real amount of money flowing there. They might gamble a bit just for the show, but in reality they might be earning a lot by the money the casinos pay them for advertising them.

We can hint that they streamers, especially influential could have been making money advertising those casinos.

So yeah, we may never know the real numbers on how much they are earning. But the point is that for sure, these guys are being paid. Maybe there were agreements about the money that they are going to win, perhaps percentage, or as others suggested, casino giving them money to play and then the winnings split. There are a lot of ways they could earn big from their promotions.

Sadly, too many people not just gamblers are relying on streamers that they follow. Those influencers/streamers, whatever they tell the avid fans are going to do whatever it is.
The hype is for real for these influencers and that's why most of the times, those that has a huge following for their specific niche are getting paid a lot because of what they can do.

By using this strategy of hiring Youtubers as a promotional medium for the casino, they will be able to get a lot of advantages in getting more visitors to the casino. We know that Youtube, the largest streaming video, has a very large number of visitors, so by using Youtubers, casinos can develop their business to be bigger. Youtubers may use their money to get more views and attract more people.

This problem has existed for as long as casino streaming itself and I think there's no sure way of determining whether a streamer is gambling with real money unless you have full insight into his finances. If you see the money that a streamer is spending in a short period of time, it's very clear that he's not gambling for real money all the time.

In order to avoid fraudulent affiliates promoting rogue casinos, we must use common sense and feel out the situation to determine whether this person is truly putting his money where his mouth is. We must learn to recognize warning signs.

Streamers is part of the marketing strategy of the gambling casinos to gain more player with their platform mostly the streamers are giving away a coupon and discounted deposits so the player encourages more to play because it is cheap instead of they are the one who makes a deposit at the same time if the player sees the odds of the game is in favour with the player they will catch their attention to play too at the same time to try their luck the same as they watch. Also it is good if the streamers are responsible and assisting those players who have concerns and issues because they are partnered with them.

Honestly, is that even matter if the streamer is using their own money or not on their streaming videos about gambling?

What if they are using their own money?
What if they are not using their own money?
What would be the feedback?

What I'm saying is, regardless if the stream was sponsored or not, the main purpose is creating content which is the main purpose of any streamer as they are trying to gather more views for their videos. More views = more profit = more revenue.

Stats don't lie and there are reasons why slots reached that level because of the pandemic where people are on lockdown and they have to find ways to make life still exciting while at home and playing online is the preferred choice streamers are turning to online gambling to promote their games because they have the data and the request coming from casinos to stream their games, but I also believe there's some manipulation going on because many of these streamers are showing good results to entice people to join, deposit and play.

Actually the statistics that I post on this thread based on the last 7 days number of viewers on Twitch which slots is gaining attention and climbing the leaderboard to beat popular games.Slots is sitting on same percentage of viewership which means it has a consistent number of viewers compared to other games that keeps changing the number of viewers. I guess slots streamers is having a good pay check on most of there streams due to this steady number of fans supporting them. Casino giveaways might be the reason too why it's attracting a lot of viewer to watch and stay to this kind of stream.

I am very sceptical when it comes to streamers from the gambling section. There are at any time quite a lot of people on twitch streaming and it seems they are much luckier than I am. I don't mind them winning large amounts, but somehow I always question myself if this is real. In the past I followed a few of the big poker streamers playing tournaments and noticed that there performance is not exceptional good. Sure they had some good days making decent money, there were also terrible days. In the end it seemed that a lot of the money they make comes twitch rather than gambling. It was more about their personality and engaging with the chat and viewers than about making money. That's why when I see large winnings from a streamer I worry about them having a promotion deal with the casino that gives them free money to gamble more reckless.

Exactly.

I mean, that's 2 birds in 1 stone. You get the chance to try their slots while playing using their money and being paid at the same time, who wouldn't want that. But of course being a streamer ain't that easy that could be achieved overnight, unless a famous streamer plugged you in his stream.

I think the reason why online casinos are making such move is that because online gambling became the new normal mode of playing gambling instead of going to a physical casino.

That question will never be gone if we keep on seeing them on a huge winning streak and spree. It's part of the business that they're promoting and not just about the results that they're showing.

It's like that where they are gambling, everyone, every viewer that they've got are also going to win big such as them. That's the mindset that they're trying to build.

So, if you think that you're not that gullible, it's always okay to question that on your mind and do some research for yourself if you want to.

The thing is, you can't just approach a platform, state that you want to stream their games for money, and get the deal immediately. Casinos only deal with established names in the streaming gig with a lot of followers already, and even if the streamer that they got is a basic guy on gambling with lots of followers, they'd probably still get that guy for doing the job for them. It's an endeavor that I also like to enter, though I've already accepted the fact that Ill never be able to do what others does since I don't have even a decent follower base to start my streaming journey for casinos :D

And not just that, it seems there are lots of people now that always hooked up on any livestream regardless of the content, be it online games, cooking, travel, gambling and random stuffs. Because of the growing number of users who are now being hyped by watching random content at famous streaming sites like Youtube and Twitch, it now make sense and necessary to put the marketing on it.

However, for streamers, it's not that easy to make partnership or being noticed by the gambling sites they want to promote. The streamer's page should be, obviously, famous, popular, consistent at doing regular streams and more importantly, knows how gambling works on that site and familiar with the interface as they will show to their viewers how to navigate on the site as well.

Without those factors, these streamers really need to stream that specific gambling site first without expecting in return and spend their own money to get the attention of the site they are promoting. That will take a long progress.

Yes, it is very natural. Streamers will always want to increase views on their channel as well as an attempt to bring more subscribers. The purpose of this is how they can quickly increase their income. They are always ready to provide new updates. Whenever a game is released they deserve it and try to find out the advantages or disadvantages with the game and then wants to live streaming his viewers.

That's why those streamers will always try to provide their best videos, which will help them earn more revenue. They will assess the latest game that will be released and inform their subscribers about what's in the latest game release. Maybe they will also play a live review of the latest game by inviting their subscribers to try it so they can experience it too. But although they do that, we as their audience, need to be careful not to use too much money to play the game.

These streamers are actually streaming newest game as soon as they especially those that are hype so they can attract as much viewers as possible. Theses kinds of stream are kinda an in-depth review so we the viewers will know if we will want or be attracted to that game.

Anyways, Upon checking "Slot Category" on stream, my first thought is that gambling activities on Twitch are not allowed but to my surprise, various gambling games are actually being played and stream there. Also, I was able to find Stake being streamed on the top of Slot category and it has a lot viewers compared to other gambling games.

The videos used by streamers as a content will always come from their live streaming. I don't know why but once they were doing live streaming and they were getting very very big win. They were using their video to attract people to join through their refferal. The rate from their video was so smalll compared with what they have gotten from people joined through their refferal.

The only thing that worries me, for example, is that the game itself is fair - no matter whose money it is played with. I'm not a fan of such streams, but from what I've seen, streamers basically lose the entire deposit as a result. I'm wondering if this is anti-advertising for gambling?  ;D How stupid do you have to be to see someone lose money and go and lose it too?

Yes, the stream will only deceive viewers if they're not using their own money and are just being paid for sponsorship where they don't show fair play. They make it more attractive for viewers for their own benefit. I think that's not fair for those who are looking for legit and trusted sites. That's the reason why it's hard to rely on streamers nowadays.

Most of the streamers on twitch is not sponsored that's why most of them is getting bust and expressing depressed emotion when losing there money. I think only big time streamers are using sponsored money for there stream and they are using the actual game like Drake did. He have huge money to just to bust it up on a 3rd party live games. So I think they are using the actual game while streaming.

There are conditions being set by the casino for these streamers. It may not look like that some of them aren't sponsored because there's no banner that pops on their monitor.

But the one thing that you can think of is that they're exactly showing the website itself where they are playing. That's like the actual condition that they have to play on that casino and they'll get paid.

It depends on the contract like "play this $1000 on our casino and that's it!".

They have those type of conditions and could be paid per video they make and then tomorrow it's no longer valid as the contract expires and only valid for one video as per contract.

This is true, there are independent streamers that are taking advantage of the gambling popularity in order to have content.  Most of them aren't sponsored so when they lose, it really hurt them that much.  I think they are hoping to gather enough audiences and then apply for sponsorship of casinos when they think they had enough subscribers or followers. 

Actually, not that they will hurt much if they lose. It is part of the investment they take so they need to spend money to build up their respective channels for the purpose of getting enough subscribers and to be eligible to get noticed by the gambling sites.

Besides, streaming is free and the only effort these streamers will do is to spend money on their content.

But honestly, in most cases, these streamers don't really focus on becoming sponsored streamers on the gambling site. It's just that since online gambling is hype, they are taking the advantage of riding the trend and making it their content. If they will be noticed by the gambling site they are using on the content, that is just a bonus.

I agree they are waiting for an opportunity like this to earn at the casino's side as promoters. But while it doesn't happen, they can still profit from comissions earned through referrals they bring to gambling platforms, since they have a large and active audience on their channels.

There is a channel I follow on youtube where the gambler executes bankroll management in a daily basis, while also sharing his referral comissions which he counts as profit, what means in some days instead of playing he just skips it, because the 5% daily income was already made through comissions.

I guess that’s how streamers are made on purpose, so they can always attract new players and the house will always take advantage on their money. Although there are streamers that are simply made for awareness, but mostly in streamers where they advertise huge wins, it’s either those winners are greatly paid or in some cases, those winners volunteer on their own.

Streamers can also use their capability in order for them to have a referral bonus, I have seen so many streamers now that is getting paid and get commission for advertising some gambling site. Streamers should also fact check the site as well before advertising it in order for them and for the people to have a safe deposit and safe credentials in case that the website has KYC. Some website needed to be legal as well before entering digital casino, it is more hot in the eyes of the government if a streamers promoted it.

It does hurt somehow since they are spending money for their content.  Streaming is free, yes but the money isn't.  As far as we know, unless the streamer is lucky enough to easily get attention and subscriber, it will take time to build up followers and subscribers to the channel.  Among the many, only a few are able to meet their target audience in a span of six months or a year.


True, and besides in order to minimize their money losses, they can use their casino referrals in order to get some money from the Casino referral commission.  Aside from the payment (if their channel is already monetized) from the views their content gathered.

Streamers mostly does it with the trusted platforms. As mentioned these streamers will be making a good sum of money through referrals. When a streamer makes in millions often it creates a question, how he's able to make it. Some could've succeeded following it, with big bag of money. This isn't possible for everyone and the same is also a reason for small gamblers losing big expecting big out of small amount of money.

I don't understand the hurt part. Streamers know that they need to spend money in order to attract more viewers.

Prior to doing streams, it makes sense to spend money and they understand the risks. Even if they lose money on that gambling site while doing the content, the lost money is part of the budget so nothing really different as that is really intended to be spent. Meaning, that they don't bother with the results.

Otherwise, they should not stream a gambling site if they are being hurt by their losses while making their gambling content.

On the contrary, I'm just thinking about this scenario: do trusted platform and I'm assuming they have the reputation and that they are already big, still need promotion from some streamers? Or newly created one, who are just starting this business and wanted to gain that trust from the gambling community will used this streamers to promote their casinos? So it seems that the later will have more benefits if they take advantage of this kind of promotions instead of the already established one, in my opinion.

I will be honest I have never liked that kind of advertising because it sends the wrong signals to the people, it gives the impression that earning money when you gamble is not only possible but something easy to do, then when they actually try their luck they find out this is not the case and then they get mad about it, and in a way they are right as the information that they were given was false and they did not had a realistic idea of what they could expect out of gambling.

The money they spent are their capital in which they can gain back from sponsorship and ads. It is an investment. It will only hurt if they are too bad as a streamer they can't get monetized or a sponsor.


Most streamers right now are in a group that helps them get audiences, likes and subscribers. It is great support to easily get the target needed to get monetized . Unless you are doing it alone, it is quite easy to get the audiences you needed.

Well, we may find many streamers who use online media to promote something live or recorded. This has become a new trend among streamers, so many are trying to follow it. In addition, many streamers also share their experiences about promoting something, not just sharing an evaluation video about a product.

The online gambling business that has been developing for the past few years has attracted streamers to join and participate in promoting it because it can increase their income and, of course, the streamers can get even more subscribers.

Maybe they want to show their subscribers how they can win the game so they decide to have a live stream on their channel. That can attract more people to subscribe because they will think that the streamer might share something with them, whether it's a tip, trick, or even a gift. Those streamers will also share the link to join and of course, if people join under them, those streamers will earn extra income.

Basically their job is to give a better idea about the game. Maybe the streamer is doing it for money or they are trying to increase the popularity of their channel. However, a gambler understands everything they need to know before playing the game. I think both are benefited.

To break it down, a casino is trying to pay the streamer to advertise them then the streamer wants to get it known on how far it can reach to its audiences and if these audience get hooked then they'll come to the casino the streamer is promoting. It's basically just a cycle and nothing complicated in it.

There is no difference between fake money and real money. But there is a difference between a fake game or with honest results. If the streamer plays honestly, then most likely he will lose in front of his audience and there is no difference if it was fake or real money. Another thing is if the result is rigged so that he allegedly wins and thus encourages the audience to play too. This already looks like a scam.

the "work" that Streamers do is good for casinos and it also helps people to have an idea of a certain game because before the person plays I watched the Streamers play and that person is already aware that in that game he can win or lose , it will depend on the strategy that the person will use. but as everything in this world has a negative part, also Streamers can make people think that if they play a lot even if they lose a lot of money eventually they won, why did people think like that? by seeing Streamers playing for many months even losing and having some victories, people thought that Streamers are a good example that even if you lose a lot of money you shouldn't give up because eventually they will win, when that's not true and people can end up addicted. Of course this is not the Streamers fault, they don't force anyone to play, they are just showing how they play and receive partnership with the casinos


I agree that slot is an easy game to get people addicted to just like lottery. as for grand thef, i love this game, this is a game that grown people play and love

You would really notice it but of course it would really be depending on someones eyes because most of the time we do turn out to be greedy whenever we do see someone is winning or hitting big on the time that he

plays or some streamers had been doing that which it would really be not ethical if they would rig out the results for it to make winning chance higher which is something that we should look for.

No surprising that influencers or youtubers become more rampant or many not only on gambling industry but also in other as well.So better be wary of these things
as a viewer because you dont know if those are fair sites or not.

you must often see food advertisements on tv but when you will never make the exact same thing as in the ad. the goal of marketing is to be like that (make the audience affected and eventually try)

As we get older, we have to be able to reduce our expectations and control ourselves so we don't get stuck with disappointment, we must be aware that streamers are only trying to make money from their live, the results you get will be much different from what they show

Some streamers are really telling the truth about the site but some are not, they are promoting the site blindly and if you are going to listen to those streamers better to follow the right one. This is also alarming since many viewers can easily watch the streamer at a lesser restriction and there’s a possibility for the younger one to get exposed on gambling because of this. The site should be more responsible on choosing their marketing strategy, this can benefit for both parties but a bigger risk for the gamblers.

wow... this is something that impressed me... I confess that I would never have imagined that the "market"/gambling segment could gain a significant share in streaming.
This just shows that with each passing day that gambling is acquiring an interesting "market share" in the current market.

Yes, it is their job to provide input to the companies that hire them and those streamers also have goals that they want to achieve in the future. But later, some gamblers don't try to find out what the streamer is saying so they just follow what the streamer says. This can trigger something bad for his followers if they can't find more information because they can get stuck in conditions that are not favorable to them.

Before you repeat what do streamers need to understand that most of them are in a partnership relationship with the gaming sites and lose they do not their personal money and casino money moreover, and even get a lot of money for their work.

Many of them are aware that such activities are prohibited in the U.S. and they break the law, so some of them even move to other jurisdictions on purpose not to have problems with the law.

I think its all about advertisements and getting bonuses by referrals. I remember watching Turkish streamer living in Cyprus (Northern side). Gambling is legal there so he was streaming playing on online casinos at twitch. He was indirectly making ad for that specific online casino website. And he was making money directly over other type of advertisement. I think its pretty normal in modern age. This was like 3-4 years ago.

Do you really think that streamers risk their money to attract users and when they lose that money they don't show that they're upset? Many streamers stream for several hours and spend a lot of money during that time. Few of them risk their money and they themselves have admitted it more than once.

I think this is more of a "when it started" kind of thing instead of when it popped off and grew so big which was what OP was pertaining to. It was something that was growing pre-pandemic but afaik it was the age during the pandemic that really boomed its growth (the streaming industry in general) since well, people had nothing to do.

Agree. The self-insert can sometimes be very enjoyable to do, and heck just messing around with the streamer involved after a big loss (or win) can be very fun as well. Not to mention that they do giveaways at times depending on what or how much they win in their games.

This is pretty much common in streaming world. I guess this is one of their perks as a streamer and influencer at the same time. They get to promote the gambling site while getting paid for advertising it. In addition, they also get to profit and earn some money via sharing and encouraging the viewers to use their referral codes or referral links in signing up to the gambling website. With this, it's a win-win scenario for both of the casino and streamer.

I agree that streamers must do research and do a background check first before advertising and promoting a specific casino because it might damage his reputation and at the same time, for the welfare of the watchers who frequently check and stream their videos.

After all, it's their job. They must be monetized. By the way, I heard that due to the end of the pandemic, which gave a big boost to steaming and streamers and the upcoming recession in the economy, their incomes are falling and will fall even more in the future. Therefore, it can be assumed that some desperate ones will go for even more murky advertising schemes.

Some of these people are legitimately making money from streaming without being affiliated with the casino. This business has a little more shady area because some streamers get paid by the casino to play with their money and they don't admit it at the stream, so that people think they're watching a real game but in reality the streamer is acting like it's a big deal and he's betting a lot of money but he can't lose anything. Of course this isn't any different from all those TV ads where they edit the model's face or hair to show they look better after using some cream or shampoo. All ads are lies and twitch streaming is just another form of an ad.

Now that pandemic is coming into its end then expect that there would be less streamers as casual marketing would really be going back to normal and i agree on the thing you've said about those desperate ones would be touching up some areas which is something not to be that good anymore to look at or something related with those other schemes.Its true that this is their job and same goes on typical day jobs we do have,
some might be saying that we should'nt make it personal but in general sense there's something on it which doesnt really look good.

The purpose is to gather views in order to make revenue, how does the pandemic coming to the end have to do here?

Streamers, that's why they are called streamers, will just continue to stream. There's no other way to earn but to stream so why they will stop?

They are not just into partnerships but even if they are doing content on a gambling site without direct support from it, it's still content and they will just continue to stream as usual. Having a partnership with a gambling site they used on content is not even a priority.

Maybe they have a partnership with a gaming site that has been around for some time so that they will get the latest info if there is an update from the gaming site. They must be able to manage their finances, whether to play gambling or fulfill their daily needs.

Moving to another jurisdiction might solve the existing lawlessness problem in the US. And we know that many streamers are trying not to break the laws in their location.

Exactly, Streamers is already there even before pandemic and they have a strong marketing impact on industry like online gambling. They will still continue despite pandemic ends because people already comfortable on playing online gambling rather than casino because of its convenient. Maybe the old generation that is currently using online gambling might go back on playing IRL but most of the new generation will definitely choose online gambling which will sustain the streaming world.

Good day. I really like streamers and channels that contain informative content. For example, this is the BBC, National Geographic, various historical channels, medical streamers, and so on. I mean, what I absorb should be healthy and nutritious. My informational food should benefit, not just saturate me. That's why I rarely watch game streamers. They are to entertain the audience, and often their ways are deliberately childish and stupid. I don't want to offend anyone, I'm just expressing my opinion. If you can, advise a good streamer who gambles. It is desirable that they're not a clown. I'll be happy to look at them and make a conclusion.

Right, but if you are smart enough, this streamers can make more money by affiliating their face with the casinos. And this is the business model that we have seen very effective. Even though casinos are willing to take sponsors from top athletes, what's more with a casino that has starting his name and wanted to be known. As for the money, we all have been speculated that it's either fake money or it directly comes from their affiliated casinos so that betting max won't be a problem and usually if you have huge bet the returns will be big as well.

Most of the times these so called streamers are being paid by respective casinos to promote their casino.
It's their joint effort to show that the streamer is making massive profits while in reality most of us lose money.
It's a strategy being used by many companies and works out well. As a user we have to be aware and only gamble within our budget.

Maybe I have seen few such streams, but always when I turned on the stream with the name "playing in the casino, deposit 5k" I saw that the stream was already going on for an hour and the deposit was already less than 2k. It turns out that the streamer is at a loss. Maybe later in the highlights we see individual wins (even large ones), but if you watch the stream, then the streamers mostly lose there.

I would not be surprised to see that happened. As far as i know influencer has become one of the most effective way to attract new people to join in the casino. I meant their favourite streamer able to win the game eventhough if that may be fake but as an entertain it will enough to make their followers and subscribers feel curious about tried to use such casino.

With the existence of this casino gambling streamer, you must be careful because they have the potential as influencers who already have an agreement with gambling sites to play casino games on their website so that when they play games they may not use real money and their expressions can also look normal when they lose a large amount of money. very much. because currently there are many cases like that to increase visitors at a gambling place.

Yeah, streamers playing on casino accounts and might have a fixed game to show users watching the stream know what happened when they win, the thrill behind it. Full of manipulate so I have a very bad view of any casino being advertised by streamers.

Yeap, that is true. Back in past I've seen on stake forum streamers timetable. All they did are trying to complete daily competition tasks and run giveaways among chat. Most of the time I see them loosing money just to complete daily task (sort of a hit A 3 times in a row in HI-LO) and get few bucks. Real gambler would never do that.

From Russian streamers on YouTube I've found out that they play with deposit given them by casino and promote their referral link. Their income is a % of what gambler that has signed via ref link lost.

If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino.
You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.

Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new

players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have
that good record and recommendations.

The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made.

Streamers also want to make money and they are there to create contents for their own benefits so don't get surprised about them hyping up a several casino since they are paid to do that. And lets do our own diligence to research what they are talking about or the content showed to us since at the end of the day its up for us to try what they are doing then test our luck playing on casino they recommend.

We should not make ourselves to be easily get fooled specially if the streamer do keeps winning on playing those games which you cant assure if those are valid or legit wins or something
rigged or fixed thats why if you've decided to make out some deposits then you should really be that making further research about a casino and not just hastily make some deposits
without having in depth research.

And I understand it, however just because people like us know the difference between this form of advertising and the reality that does not mean that everyone does, and when those people try to replicate the results they see in those videos they are going to be incredibly disappointed by their results, and while it is natural that when a product is advertised some liberties are taken to increase the attractiveness of the product I think that many of those videos are outright lying and that is never acceptable.

If streamers can win continuously, it should make us suspicious because there is no way we can win continuously at gambling, even if we have good luck.
Sometimes we lose and pause to evaluate what we have done.
We have to be careful if streamers try to persuade us to follow what he is doing because indirectly, we are responsible for our money.
Apart from that, we also have to research, like you said so that we don't get into trouble later.

The reality is there are more who lose than win and the loss percentage is higher than winning, but these streamers need to manipulate their results so they can invite more followers to signup to the casino they are promoting, streaming has become an industry because there are companies that are willing to pay them just to stream their game, I'm not following any streamers but I remember one streamer I watched winning outrageous money that made me think he is one lucky guy until I read that there are some streamers manipulating their games.

I don't even think so. It's not that streamers promoting the casino will always be a bad thing but yeah seeing how easy those scammers got max win will make people feel curious about what if they will get that max win. Maxwin was not an easy thing to be achieved and it's pure depend on our luck. I think that in this case it's not casino's fault. It's people's choice whether they wanna try that or not.

There is a thing called "streamer luck"

I used to play a hack&slash game where you hunt for items. A regular user can try to farm a certain item for 1000 hours and get nothing but then you'll see a streamer getting 2 or more in 100 hours. Then people found out that the game devs and certain streamers were in an agreement and cheating. It means the devs raised the drop rates of the streamer accounts.

The same thing may happen with the casinos. You'll never know.

Most highest rollers / winners boards you'll see on online casinos are fake too. It is a marketing trick. Lying works.

Streamers has a a contract with those gambling casinos like there's a designated amount they can use and only limited to withdrawal and there a designated timeframe they will make a stream so they keep promoting those gambling casino and of course they didn't get too much in with their funds because at the first place it is a sponsor thing so they aren't hesitant to make a large amount of wages.

That's what we all suspected though, might be very much obvious to us, but there are a few streamers admitting to this  It's like they wanted to show their fans or audience that they indeed have the money to spent on gambling. Betting on max bet on slots and then hitting that huge bonus jackpot, that is a thing of beauty for us gamblers who have been playing slots and hooping that we have that kind of money to spend on gambling.

On the other hard, common sense will tell us, this guys are spending like literally hundreds of thousands per month, why not just play without showing it off? It's not a bad thing, however, if you have that kind of money, it's better to play and be low profile. You just don't know, you might be the target by the criminals, just saying.

You are saying that you are okay if the casino is trying to fake it out by hiring a streamer for their promotion and advertisement.
Casinos are basically cheating the users since what they promote doesn't really happen when we gamble at their site.

That's how streamers do their business with their viewers in terms of promoting something since they want to get a best result for theirselves so we need to be more smart upon checking on what they are saying since most provably they are just trying lure us so that they can get tons of money for getting more people to register on their provided referral links.

They are getting tons of money but from those viewers who are watching them and from the pocket of the casino house that they are promoting, it's true that we needed to be more wise following those streamers who intentionally luring us to visit the site and start playing the game, remember that in gambling its more on luck base and there's no proven strategy that will be exposed to suck the house funds.

Never will happen that the result of one gambler will be duplicated by another set of gamblers unless there's exposed from the game or there's some hack that happened.

Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.

I really don't think that the game played by streamers is rigged since the Casino are operating simultaneously.  It maybe sponsored but rigged, I think not.   Aside from that I agree that we shouldn't get fooled by the streamer whose videos are just winning big.  They are not presenting the true face of gambling industry.  That is why I like watching youtube channels that show even the worst buy-in they played.


Because most popular streamers are sponsored.  So they don't really lose money in their streams while the one you said that losses $250 feels it because it comes from his own pocket.

Sometimes I think that I can't fully believe the big wins of the streamers while watching because to be honest they seem to be affiliated with a certain casino. Their winnings are ostensibly orchestrated although it may be difficult to prove, this is based on the fact that other gamblers still find it difficult to win bets compared to them.

I'd like to ask, do you believe a casino system can manage certain gamblers' wins like the streamers affiliated with it?

Everything is possible on which codes could be altered if its needed.I do really get your point and perception about these winnings to be somewhat rigged which is definitely true and i do have the same feels but we cant

really prove it out since they've been playing with huge balance into their gambling accounts which means that they could make out big bets on every roll and we know chances is there even fair RNG thing
could really able to show off big wins and hits which will really be poking up someones interest.

Some might be that dubious when it comes to fairness thats why they do still that hesitant after seeing streams something like this.

The decision is free for everyone of us and those that follow these streamers. They're aware about those sponsorships and they're also given that disclaimer that if they're going to gamble, they should do it only with the amount that they afford to lose.
The others won't listen to that sound advice but those that are know it and yet not following it, they just accept whatever outcome they get as they gamble.

The one I am watching on youtube often lost huge bankrolls during his stream,  he was even criticized that his streams is nothing exciting because a 10x win is so boring.  He just answered, he is showing the true face of gambling which I very much appreciated.


I do think it's possible but at the same time put their income at risk since I think the rigged would have a universal effect on whoever plays the same game and the same currency as the streamer during the stream.

I believe no and not necessary to do it just for the sake of the stream.

It's just that if there's an affiliation, there is surely a provided decent bankroll given (or we can call it credits) by the gambling site that's why there are always chances that a streamer can also hit big winnings, and experience a series of huge payouts.

No risk, no pressure - the affiliated streamer will just enjoy the content and do what needs to be done.

Thia data probably also show the increase of slots, companies, and also gamblers in this wolrd, moreover online casinos.
We have seen that this activity may be increasing highly since the covid. And now the numbers are increasing again and again. So many slot olatfomr s we can find. That is why each company will also do their best for marketing. One of them is by endorsing or uaing certain influencers to set a streamers for slots. And commonly this will work moreover if they have big followers or subscribers. This will reallly give peofit to the slot platforms.
But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema

Don't blame the advertisers or streamers for that. The internet is widely open to everyone.

Aside from that, most children are techy nowadays and even though they will be prohibited to do gambling, they will encounter that while they grow.

And sometimes, it's not the content that streamers are being watched but the popularity as I'm sure streamers are not focusing on the same content.

That's easy to know that if that small streamer was actually gambling with his real money while big streamer may not even use 1 cents to gambling. It's often to me to see the small streamers are always feeling broken while they were loosing their money. For them 250 USD is quite large as they can use it to buy something for their live. I know that big streamers were only selling their gimmick. Getting bunch of refferal has become their main target to get bunch of money from the platforms.
If someone losing bunch of money and he must feel desperate with it.

That's a wise thought and true because the internet is available to anyone who wants to explore all sorts of things, including gambling. We have to pay attention to the children who are in this day and age because they seem to understand the internet better than their parents so they can know how to access things they shouldn't know. If we as parents can tell them how to access the internet properly, they will not use it for unnecessary things and will not be influenced by streamers trying to provide their content.

I have talked about this for gaming, I will say it for the gambling as well. Watching streamers is not about what they are streaming at all, sure that's a very important part of it if you are there to watch the game or gambling, but most people who are long term do not go there for that. I have seen people who stream while chat was talking about something totally irrelevant.

Because that's the type of familiarity you create with your chat when you are a streamer, you could be playing latest Fifa while they are talking about one of them getting A on math class for all they care, it's just a group of friends that meet for the same streamer whenever he is on air. Gambling streamers are the same, just because you watch it, doesn't mean you watch it for that.

In line with what you are saying, the kids should be guarded well as we all know that the influence of internet is really wide and without any doubt streamers are everywhere, once the kids gain interest to whatever kind of videos being hypes the curiosity about them can lead them to gambling, it's still the parents responsibilities to keep their kids away from this kind of exposures.

Make sure that you are aware of what your kids are visiting online and what they are doing in each time they are in front of the internet.

I greatly agree, with the rise of streamers, gambling channels are everywhere, youtube, TikTok, twitch, Facebook etc.  If we can't make them avoid watching the gambling channel, at least we can explain to them things they need to know about gambling, its pros, and cons, and emphasize the cons.  I always believe that exposure and proper awareness about gambling are better than avoiding them because kids will at least have more knowledge about gambling this way.

One of the reason why I don't mostly watch any random streamers promoting some casino especially when they are only playing on 1 platform only since mostly they are promoter of that casino and we cannot get quality substance on their contents.

People should know that luck based games really will matter depends on your luck to win a small or big amount of money.

Watched another stream today. The streamer lost 500k rubles (about 9,000 dollars) - for my country this is a lot of money. Again, everything was clear right away - even in the broadcast chat, many wrote that the streamer plays completely without emotions, as if for fake money.
I can say that before I was prejudiced about slots, now with disgust - from the outside it looks so stupid ... Just press the button and watch your balance go to zero.

Most likely, streamers are there to promote certain casino as it’s one effective way to attract new and old players to play. If they advertise such big wins made by some lucky players, that will eventually attract players to gamble and spend more money, so it’s certainly a win win scenario for the casino itself. Unless if the streamer is only paid to rigged results, I guess that won’t remain effective in the long run.

When you are complete noob or doesnt really have experience on things specially on gambling field then you wont really be that too sensitive about other things like sponsorship or those  streamers had been

funded by the company even though those streamers do really give out some warning into their viewers but nothing beats out on the influence that they could give while they are playing which

it would really be that normal that they would really be still playing or making deposits in the end of the day except into those people who are experienced and able to see something odd or different
on early basis.

That's why we call slots a luck base games because you don't need to have anything as you have said, just press the button (depending on how much you want to bet) and see how your luck goes. I will assume that the streamer was putting max beat that's why in matter of minutes he lost that huge amount.

And yes, maybe the comments is just about right, as you have said, that money is already a huge amount in your country and this guy just play it like nothing and maybe it was fake money after all just to promote the casino itself.

For that gambler most probably its entertaining to play the slots and this is his way of gambling, we don't know if its the real money of that streamer or just another promotion about the site. Many are losing big money in slot machines because its easy to play and you just let your luck hit you so you can win. This might not be a good game to some gamblers, but we all have our own favorite games and that streamer might really love the slot games. Streamer are getting into crypto gambling, either to promote a site or they just really want to gamble.

Yeah, perhaps the emotions of the individual who lost $250 is real because he is playing with real money, maybe it's a hard earn and seeing him losing it and for everyone to see is devastating experience for him. But who knows, maybe one day this person will become big streamers as well. So maybe that is ok for him to lost this small money. And later when he grow his subs and followers, some casinos will look for him make him a offer as a sponsor and give him play money, or whatever offers the casino will have for him.

Streamers can't rigged the results themselves, the casino itself will have to be involved to be able to pull that one off. But most likely as others have said, they are playing with fake money, so that they can continue to play for hours and stream it and mentioned the casino's name as a promotions. And sooner or later with that fake money, he or she might be lucky and hit the bonus and probably hit a massive win or close to a jackpot.

This slot everybody is talking of, have you guys see any person about to play a slot game and win the game because many people that is outside the world don't know what is a slot game. I asked a friend of mine who is a gambler popularly known as promise Thankgod, of  the benefit of slot game but you was unable to explain better what slot game is all about so playing gambling from what I understand he says something of chance to win a win gambling

I don't think streamers are playing with fake money.  Because if it is fake money then a demo can be seen on the stream.  I believe it is sponsored money.  they are betting with real money but it is sponsored so it isn't their own money so they don't care if they lose all those huge amounts but of course, they wanted to win because of the promised commissions on those winnings. 

And streamer often tells the viewer that it was sponsored money either by some rich people or by the casino itself.

Playing with fake money or not.

Let's take it this way.

There are streamers that really have been hired to play on the casino they're showing to their audience. But there are the other streamers too that are genuinely playing on a casino that they've just chosen to gamble.

And just for the sake of the viewership, the casino can give the streamer actual balance to play with because they want genuine reaction and gambling experience to be shown.

That's why I don't think they'll be playing with fake money even if they're hired, so, it's an actual money or balance that has been given to them.

Yes, the money could come from the casino itself and feed to the players so that they can continue to play. And maybe it was credited right away to their accounts before they start to stream because all of them when they started streaming didn't show their initial deposits so that where maybe the trick lies. And then you can see at the start that they have like thousands of dollars already as a bankroll and then just pushes the max button and starts to play.

Streamers are not only making themselves money but this is another way of promoting gambling. underage people or kids can easily be influenced by these streamers. Seeing them making easy money, kids can develop an interest in gambling which may lead to financial loss as gambling is not a money making game. No streamer will tell you that gambling is a risky business, rather they will just force everyone to play gamble at a certain site as this is their job/mission.

Obviously, there is no such case that streamers are using fake money. How can they even do that or make it possible to use fake money or credits?

And it's not always as if they are using sponsored money as not all streamers are affiliated with the site. They are just making it as content without a direct affiliation on the site and that's the usual thing happening in the streaming world.

Generally, the money is either own money or sponsored. We can even determine where the money used came from based on the popularity and fame of the streamers. Besides, streamers who are affiliated with the gambling site are not that secret.

Not a hard to take, having a young mind makes them thinks that the process can be done on their end, it's the dangerous thing if you are a parent not knowing what your kids are doing online, streamers can easily pollute them up by showing how easy to win using the platform that they are promoting and adding to that, those promotions and perks that also attracts people to engage and visit the site,

Streamers influenced is well being used by the casino owners to bring more gamblers to their site, the very reason why they are willing to pay a decent amount just to have a good streamer to stream the game and the site itself.

Most provably the casino they promote give them free credits or account to use upon their stream time so that they can make there game plays legitimate so that many people could also feel the intensity of the game what the streamers had at that time and this could rise curiosity. This can easily be set up by them since for sure no streamers will bust their huge amount of money for thousands of views only since for sure this will not give them profits.

Of course, they are in exchange for shilling their casino, not all streamers are good at gambling and if they are promoting casinos and gambling in their channel they should show that they are winning, to the point that they are manipulating their broadcast, I am not a big fan of streamers there are a lot of streamers in the past that I followed about investing in altcoins they are good at shilling but not good at predicting the future of the project that they are shilling and I lose a lot following their advice and shills, I just knew that it is the same case here in gambling.

Well, Twitch is a bit picky and full of shit when it comes to gambling on it's platform. You are not allowed to post your affiliate links anymore and you are not allowed to advertise the domain of the site that you are gambling on.

This is why Eddie (co-owner) of Stake.com moved away from Twitch and he is now streaming on DLive.  ;)  In any way.... Slot streaming will go down, when these platforms start to make more strict rules.  :P

Dlive? As I remember, the last time I visited that page there's a few number of streamers it is good that some streamers switch to that website. I think they still have BTT stale in that site right? I stake my btt las t 2020 in that website  earn some btt as well because of streaming. Dlive is good actually, but switch is more popular and having more users and good UI as well.

If we take a mathematical basis, then slots can be compared with dice. But for some reason, in dice, the game looks like a real contest with randomness when you change the bet size, the probability of winning and the payout size during the game (or set up auto-betting for example Martingale). Slots look like random pictures that are shown to the player while his deposit is melting. I can't understand it.

Did gamble need a special skill? I didn't even think if that needs it. The main target to make others or viewers are joining in the platforms. Seeing some streamers lost about hundreds thousands dollars in a day was a bit surprised to see that. The platform itself was helping them to do that. I rarely or even never seen someone who didn't affiliate with gambling platform can get like hundred of multipliers.

IMO, that doesn't matter anyway since slot only has 2.6% of the total viewers. It still depends on the age of the viewers as they might have different interests, or maybe Fortnite is not that popular for gamers that's why they have lower viewers compared to slots which is easier to play and understand.

Maybe for you it doesn't really matter but for him it does since he sees that slots overcome fortnite and csgo which two of the many popular video games today. Yes you are right. Different age means different interest. If you are a kid you will love minecraft and other games which has a cute graphics and gameplay but for a much older person, they are into action and mind games like league of legends.

Fortnite and cs go is an fps game but they were not really new compare to valorant and others in the list. Maybe that's the reason why the viewers or the games got lessened over time. Slots on the other hand is more in gambling and not really a game but a lot of streamers are using twitch to stream their play.

^ I saw a lot of streamers when performing while taking a live video it seems they are having fun of it, though we don't know if that is the way how to promote a gambling casino or just they know how a viewer feels bored if that is not having fun. First I am thinking this because of the affiliate they promote a casino but I heard one of my friends who are streamer too they promote gambling casinos because they will receive a lot of benefits on it, they will be paid by the company and their account also have a free bet that can make money too when they will win and plus factor they will earn from their followers. So possible reason that the streamers risen because of possible easy making money.

While that percentage may not seem to be on the high side that puts slots as one of top 10 games that people are watching, so it is not a small amount if you think about it, what interest me is how slots got so popular all of a sudden when it comes to streaming? I know they are very popular as it is the most common casino game that you are going to find at a psychical casino, but to think that even online their popularity is so high is something that amazes me, as not only people like to play slots now they even like to watch someone else to play them.

I agree, I don't have the figures, but perhaps slots is one of the most played games whether online and offline. And as far as experience goes, playing slots for more than a decade, gamblers love them, although it is one of the worst game to be played but still it attracts a lot. And this platform knows it, and that is why they have sponsored streamers who have a lot of followers because they knew they can get someone to play in their casino if these streamers are going to advertised it in their channels.

Taking care of children when they use the internet is a must, especially when children are vulnerable to getting content they don't deserve to see. We have seen many cases imitated by small children who are not yet adults. They learn to imitate what they watch on Youtube and use it with their friends. When they used it on the older people, they would be surprised because they wouldn't know where the kids got it from.

This is what parents who still have minors need to be aware of who easily use smartphones to access the internet. They will also easily see content in the form of violence, gambling, free sex and so on.

I think there are applications, tv features that limit the applications and sites the children can access.  I think it is under the parental control option of a gadget.  We just need to block known sites that are harmful to children.  There is also a customization method offered in google (https://support.google.com/youtubekids/answer/7178746?hl=en) wherein harmful to children youtube channels can be blocked.  This might solve the problem of the possible exposure of children to the Rising numbers of gambling streamers.

That's how I open up my eyes towards their intention because if there's money involve those people will not really give real contents which can help their viewers. They always make them are their cash cow this is why we should do our research and never get hype with those platforms they promote. And its a same situation with altcoin scene so best for that is we maybe watch them for entertainment but don't try to go above on what those streamers show.

Since Twitch is now getting bigger, expect that the platform will have more strict rules.

Not sure though but maybe part of the regulations. Just like on Youtube.

Youtube before is not that strict regarding gambling content but look at them now, banning channels related to gambling content without giving the specific reason of why that channel ban or what thing they violated on Youtube's terms. It's still fine to stream gambling on Youtube but there are rules now.

Does it really a concern for others?

What I mean is, that these kids won't be really interested in this gambling-related content. They will still watch other content compared to these gambling streams. They won't spend time watching those but what will they do is actually experience the gambling right away.

And what is the age range we are talking about here that we considered as a children?

is gambling going to be like Fortnite where it was really popular but the hype for it went down by time ? probably not, most streamers gambling use bonuses and contracts with casinos to gamble on stream and keep the profit if they reached the requirements, so it will stay beneficial for them to keep gambling on stream, even if their viewers go down a bit they still have a contract with the casino, and gambling is addictive even if you watch some gambling, you want to see what's gonna happen everytime and I'm guilty of that, I find myself watching gambling streams for hours.

Yes, a feature restricts children from accessing something that is not allowed to them. But apparently, today's children are smarter than previous generations so they can still break through those restrictions easily and even use them with their friends. But indeed, the restriction feature for minors can help parents to control the use of cell phones for their children so that their children do not cross the line in using the internet.

Streamers now are raising their flags all over the world , in every areas there are streamers that brings and create money from all over the place .

and also they have been making each businesses a favor for how they will promote them , so Indeed that it is not only in this area of gambling but everything that internet connected .

They can do that because of the wide reach that they have.

So, casinos also do take advantage of it by giving them some opportunities that will also help them to get more the target audience and customers that they need.

That's why it is not only the casinos that do use streamers for promotion, as long as the streamer has a certain niche for its audience, a company that focuses on that area will also give them opportunities.

I am not surprise of a streamers rise situation. It does not necessary to have a top-end PC or laptop to start streaming. Devices are cheap and accessible. Lots of aftermarket devices for every budget. The internet is everywhere, it is cheap and affordable, it can even be free. Gambling is also available for masses of people. You dont event have to pass a KYC to register and get yourself an affiliate link, and casinos are interested to attracting new customers with every possible way.

That makes sense, personally I have never liked slots because their odds are simply terrible, there are many other games in which your chances are way better and as such you can gamble for a longer amount of time while at the same time you can save money, however since slots are so popular among gamblers it also makes sense that they are willing to watch streamers while they gamble at different slots as this gives them an idea of how a particular slot works without having to spend any money on their own.

I do agree with it. There are so many categories on twitch but slots is able to be the one of most watched. This is also a very good achievement so far. People are looking for something entertain that can makes them feel funny when they were watching it.
To be honest when it was watching streamer and it seems like i were also playing slots. That may make people started to feel that if slots were good enough to be used as entertain.

If you feel that way, it would be easy for you to get encouraged and play the slot too. Streamers who know how to play

with their audiences are gaining interest and possibly lead the viewers to play along with them,
and that's the time casino owners will interact and ask for streamers advertisement, they will gain
money from both sides, streamers will receive a good paycheck and casinos will earn clients that
will play using their platforms.

I know the feeling mate, it seems that you would like to be that guy to beat huge and max bet like $10 or more per spin. Nevertheless we have to understand that this is promotion for the casinos and if ever you get attracted and want to play like the streamers then you fall for their trick already. That's why even watching them, you really have to control yourself and not to gamble because you wanted to win big as well.

Self-restraint is really a must if you don't want to get lost in gambling. You can try to watch different streams to check how the casinos have their games set up and how good is the processing of transaction as well as the quality of service they offer overall. These streamers are often paid to do their job which is to promote and encourage their viewers and followers to try and gamble as well in the hopes of winning. Despite all of the good feedback they provide, you must still be wary because their task is to attract new players and depositors. If you will be reckless, you might end up regretting because of expectations vs. reality set-up.

It's still much better to always countercheck everything you hear, read, or watch so that you won't fall victim to their tricks for them to profit.

well I think so. I'm quite skeptical for streamers, most of them are pure professionals who are doing promotions.
I don't think it's much different from streamers on other channels, there are many streamers like on social media or YT, although I'm not saying for all streamers.
however, the streamers act professionally to attract large audiences with various tips and tricks in their slot games. I think they do it purely for entertainment because they won't lose any money. as you said, they will get money from both sides.
well, even so I think there is nothing wrong if someone wants to make streaming as a profession.

I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.

The best way to confirm any claims 'I won x amount of money in betting' is to get his tax and income report. If he indeed won $686 million worth of bets, it can be easily cross-checked. I don't know much about this xQc streamer but from a google search, he's a Canadian and they do not have to pay taxes on gambling winnings. This might be hard for you to verify his claim after all.

Guessing by his name xQc streamer , it seems that he is a streamer so he must have uploaded his video of proof somewhere online. You can check it from his channel or give his streaming channel link here and we may also investigate if it's true news.

$686 million worth of bets is a big number and that too in only three months is hard to believe. Sometimes streamers do spread such clickbait news to gain attention.

In that case, It's hard to verify about the winnings he declared. Though it's possible since he said that he has a gambling addiction according to the article I read. Gambling streams is now starting to get popular on twitch and there are some viewers who are telling twitch to stop gambling streams, as for the reason I don't know but maybe it's about the possible gambling influence that this streamers can do on his viewers especially on underaged viewers.

I made a quick search on the internet.
Considering that last year there was a major leak on Twitch which revealed the payouts of their streamers and the source code of the platform as well, I assume it would have been easier for Internet detectives to approximate this guys's net worth having this information on hand.

Info: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/the-entirety-of-twitch-has-reportedly-been-leaked/


Keeping this in mind, and looking for his net worth as 2022, multiple sources place it on about 9 million - 12 million. If this is true then we could assume those bets were frictional, sponsored or something similar.

You can see an example of the payouts leaked here: https://twitter.com/KnowS0mething/status/1445663228831297545

It's pretty crazy that slots has made it's way up into such a high position and I wonder if Twitch is actually getting a bit of money on the side to allow it, as they are effectively advertising gambling products - plus they are able to make up any sort of viewer levels that they want without any scrutiny. Online casinos can make huge amounts of money and I'm sure plenty of them would be happy to channel some of that to Twitch to get access to their prime younger audience of viewers. Either way it's maybe slightly irresponsible of them, because there are a lot of younger children who watch all of the other games and could stumble on to these habit forming games.

I'm not aware of that streamer but I don't find that thing disrespecting his viewers. I don't even find it as big deal to think of. It's true that he made that worth of bets "on his content" and that's a fact. Now for the money he used on that purpose, we don't have to actually know if it's came from whatever sources. If he's a clear affiliated to the gambling site he was always showing as a content, then I think his viewers knows already where should the money came from.

And on that stream, even he's not using his own money, the odds of winning are also applies to that streamer. Basically, he is just showing his viewers the content on his experience on that particular session. Viewers don't even care if the money wagered was by the streamer itself or sponsored. That's not the reason why these viewers are watching the content.

Pointless and who are you for him to grant such request unless if there would be some majority query of his viewers telling him on showing up some proofs that he had really used his own money.

If we do base up those numbers then it cant really be just easily to believe that someone who do make out streams and wager or earn millions of dollars seems really that impossible

and turns out to be that an obvious thing that this was a fake funds or solely been funded by the casino itself and just to make look that they are using real money. :)

I think tax and income report are a personal matter already and won't be possible to shown in public but on some sites like stake for example, it's possible to request a detailed statistic or report about your gambling activities.

I don't know if what gambling site that streamer play but he can try to request on the site where he play and that's the one he can show to his viewer. Maybe on some gambling sites, your stats are already recorded on your profile. That can work too. He is a streamer so it's not shocking that he can bet an amount like that because the money that he was using was not from his own pocket anyway.

https://clips.twitch.tv/HeadstrongModernMartenPJSalt-7X2eG1SgCuLkUIN_

You can check it from here. He says that he wagered that much, but also we do not know when he wagered it, so that means it could have been back when bitcoin was 1k, which is still a lot of course I am not denying that but he could have done that, I do not know when Stake started but he could have started on early days and wagered a lot as well during those days when bitcoin was cheap.

All in all I believe that he wagered way too much, and that's the proof, maybe he is using someone else's account, who knows? But I prefer to believe him because if he is super rich, then wagering that much seems possible, not "losing" is the important word here, he didn't lose that much, he wagered that much.

You spoke so much on behalf of his viewers as if people don't have different points of view. I don't know this streamer and I don't know his audience, but I think that someone will take this as a dishonest (fake money game). Also, objectively speaking, on what basis can we assume that he (and similar streamers) really has a fair odds? If he has fake money, then why can't he have fake odds?

Only a few online gambling places implement such a system because the rest don't think about taxes, what they think about as developers is just making gambling places that are easy and friendly to use and fun which ultimately makes them gamblers entertained and happy, because in fact when gambling is already liked by users, they will not think about the amount of bets used.

My advice is to choose a gambling place that is not too complicated with taxes or whatever and has very high security privacy.

is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obvious a fake money that being used by him. You can imagine how much he was loosing when gambling with such money.

That could be fake because he's also promoting the site. I guess that's another strategy for that streamer to attract more players. He could also say that he's been continuously winning over the house to impress his viewers and to build up a good impression of the site. Their winnings as well as their records of bets are unreliable.

I will add one more question that is he do these bet on only one sites ? If that's the case then I think it's really disrespectful to the viewers. And it is true that this is nothing new now that many YouTubers many gambling review sites are doing fake promotion in exchange of money. And I think something like that happened here .Because it is truly incredible that this amount has been gambled away

all can be manipulated as if they always win and get a lot of profit. even though it's just a setting for promotional purposes, because some streamers are indeed one of the ambassadors of a gambling product. can be seen from some of the ads that continue to run. Any betting records are unreliable, I don't think the streamer himself has ever played for real money on a promoted gambling site. he only gets paid for the promotions he does.

It's hard to tell but maybe there are some who also playing with their own money but most of them are pure advertisement and the amount that they using is also comes from the house itself. They are just promoting to bing traffics and to have more views with their channels. Streamers are earning from a different niche that they've used, and they are known to have advertisers, including those big gambling businesses who wanted to have more clients to use their platforms.

And mostly for those new/beginners from this business, they need to use streamers to attract gamers to visit their site and start using their services.

On the article I've read, It's shown xqc is streaming his winnings and the casino he is playing is stake. He voluntarily showed in wager history on his stream after he read an article about his gambling activities. I don't know what game he is playing but his bets number are 600k+ so I guess it's a fast paced game like dice. For me it's nice to see that he is being transparent to his viewers about his gambling records and activities.

Oftentimes, the money is sponsored but obviously, it is not fake.  Over the long period of streaming and getting a commission on the sponsored money, I think he will be able to have a hundred million bankrolls.  Remember, as they stream, they got referrals.  There is a possibility that they get whales as a referral and be able to get huge money from affiliate commissions.
About xQc winning, I believe, I read that it is from his own money.

Most of the time whales registered on the link provided on the streamers, so I will not get surprised if streamers earning a lot of fortune by hyping up a casino. And for sure all of credits given will drained so there are times that streamers will use their own money just to make their show more consistent and more people will sign up to their referral links shown every videos they created.

Yes, everything can be manipulated, including the money used by the streamer because as a promoter promoting that casino, he may get a bonus or extra money for playing so he can show his followers to play with him. This strategy sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't work depending on who is watching the video and if the viewers are people who are not affected by such videos, he will of course, just skip it and will not follow it. I guess there may also be streamers who actually use real money on gambling sites, but we'll never know the truth.

Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.

Disagree. For that gambling content, they are putting some investments too because their content is real-user experienced.

And take note that not all streamers are mostly affiliated with the sites. If a streamer wants to make an attempt to be partnered with a gambling site, they need to have a good number of followers and really a popular one to be considered. That was a hard thing to do.

That's why to be noticed by the site they are promoting, they really need to put an investment in that. To be a popular streamer, they need to spend money.

Of course, behind the streaming, there must be interest. Streamers will also get income from the videos they watch. In addition, many of them are paid for the promotion of certain platforms. And this will also have an impact on the platform to be more famous and attract new members to use the platform. Moreover, streamers are usually familiar with the world of promotion through videos and also their viewers, so it will be easier for them to attract new users. As long as the platform is official and not a scam, then it's fine. the important thing is not to promise absolute victory for its users or commit fraud.

That was too much for me. I think knowing the truth is just a waste of time. That's not even beneficial to us.

As long as the streamer is showing good content, then people will really watch it. How come it becomes a big deal if they are using sponsored money or not? What it will bring to us if we know where the money will come from?

As long as the site they are showing in the content is reputable, we don't need to be bothered if these streamers are using their own money or not.

It will just add another problem to your mind. That's not a necessary thing to think of. That's a non-sense issue.

If the casino sponsors the streamer, they can place big bets because the streamer doesn't think about where the money is coming from. And that's an advantage for the streamer because he benefits from what he does. Apart from earning money from the casino, he also has the opportunity to get additional followers who will become his referrals so that he will get additional income from them. And this is what triggers many streamers to appear this year because they can get a lot of extra income.

It is very likely that those streamers are receiving money from the casinos in order to create those videos and create a win-win situation for both of them, the casino is able to promote itself in such a way that many people do not really think of the streaming they are watching as a form of advertising, and the streamer not only earns money directly from the casino but they also gain more viewers, however I think that form of advertising is a little bit deceiving so I do not really agree with it.

Well not only YouTube is a platform where Streamers can meet, a very famous platform is twitch, which in 2021 was so famous that almost all NFT players made a big community there, they used to make these presentations to acquire more players, more community and I'm not sure how much Twitch can pay to use their platform, I imagine they have some rules similar to those of YouTube, maybe a little higher so they make people go there, however for me the streamers are very positive for a casino, because it is a way of interacting with players, knowing what they want and how a casino can get new ideas to improve.On this subject, Stake.com are all masters.

I agree with you, there are many casinos that hire streamers and some that are very transparent, of course this brings them many more followers, it makes them have profits that can sometimes be very good to be true, however, the casinos that allow having streamers do it well, some that are very sensationalist if they can turn out to be misleading, there are many strategies that casinos apply, advertising and marketing is what every casino does, those who bet on a streamer that makes them look very good, and I think those who are famous streamers bring much more clients, it's all in the strategy they want to implement.

Besides that, the acting of the streamers to convince the audience and followers is very good and maybe that's what makes them follow what the streamers are doing. We also sometimes follow what someone we find on the website suggests.

But at least, if we accidentally watch videos from those streamers, it's better that we don't think about it too much and assume that what those streamers do is just to provide entertainment to the audience. Thus, we would not be interested in trying as he did.

Even though the funds seems sponsored the streamers are having real life experience and generating contents for their viewers who get enticed with their huge wins. If the funds are sponsored as claimed then there must always be terms and conditions that will govern how this huge wins gets credited.  But come to think of it, For streamers to make good contents on their winnings it means they have had good experience exploring the casino the promote. The key take away is how much the sell this contents to their target audience and with less regards if the funds were sponsored or not

Regarding the wins of the streamers, they have a lot of budget with it which is a sponsor with the gambling platform and to those, we will see of their post and videos regarding the large amount those only are the edited version that they win but not included the lose game of course to gain more players. AFAIK they cannot make a withdrawal with those like they need to spend and it is separate with their salary of promotions. Regarding with the games it is the same there's no manipulation right there because they need to change it in the back-end that gives more hassle to them.

I don't think these streamers needed the experience. If you know the basics of slots and then some casino message you that they want to sponsor you to promote their casinos then it's very easy for them.

It well sell definitely, specially those who have been in the sphere and a lot of followers or viewers already. So whatever casino's they are going to show in their stream, there could be people that will going to play on that casino to test and  get the experience and hope that they will also get to win big.

In the first place, why these streamers will make content on playing in a casino if they don't know the basics? Obviously, they know it and have experience playing in casinos already as how can they perform well on their content if they are having a hard time with what they are doing?

Not unless the content is about "first time exploring the casino" - that just reasonable for these streamers to show the content of how they starting to learn the interface of the site they are showing on their respective content.

These streamers are just showing their experience in the casino regardless if they win or lose on that content. The result of their gambling session during that particular content is not a big deal for their viewers as the purpose of that content is to share the streamer's session on that gambling site.

That's right. The main idea of such streams is to increase recognition of a gambling site among the audience who is interested in gambling. I have heard many times that streamers play for the money of a gambling site and get extra money for streaming. And it is quite a lot of money. That is why streamers with a large audience are increasingly involved in this kind of promotion.

As long as you have a streaming media platform that has a lot of followers, it can have a good influence on companies that may be able to give gifts to you or can collaborate to provide advertisements or solicitation of followers for a large enough fee, but you have to be careful because there are several gambling establishments that have been hit by cases and can have a bad impact on influencers.

Can you explain more how it becomes disrespectful?

What's wrong with that streamer if he bet only on a single site?

It might be that:

- the streamer is affiliated with the site
- the streamer is a big fan on that site
- the streamer wants to target being affiliated with the site

Nothing technical there.

I agree with this. Streamers and influencers must be wary of the things they advertise and promote so that it won't backfire to them. It's always better to be cautious than be impulsive just because of money. There are cases and things that could make a person's reputation be at stake if ever they will going to endorse it. Hence, background checking is a must and greed should never be prioritized.

Pretty sure that this possibility has already been explored before the streamer and the platform agree on the contract. The goal of the streamer is to entertain and possibly, attract people to play. How would they do that if they aren't winning on the platform? Surely the casino owners also have a say on how the wins will happen, and that is where the magic happens on the platform. Doesn't matter if everything is sponsored or not. Streamer and platform already had it locked before the streamer even goes live.

I don't see promoting a single Casino site as disrespectful to the viewers.  I also don't think it is a fake promotion because they is actually promoting that single casino.  I don't know why you arrive to a decision that promoting a single Casino is disrespectful to viewers.  It is a common ground that the streamer is being sponsored by the Casino they are promoting or they have an affiliate code and wanted to have a referral for a commission.

No doubt about that, there's an agreement before the streamer will start streaming the video of his game,

The main responsibilities is to attract viewers and gaining the attentions and engaging them to watch is already a success for
a streamer since numbers of potential traffic will be delivered.

And here comes the participation of the gambling owner, making sure that each guest visits will be converted to a potential
patrons and regular players.

Maybe it's because the content is just for the viewers and adding some sponsorships would think that they're being sold to the advertisers. Well, we do have our own thoughts regarding it but I agree with you that it's not really disrespectful if there's a casino sponsoring the streamer.

They're like everyone who's also trying to make money out of these sponsorships but having that number is a big amount from casino winnings. So, if there's a verified information that the figure given is for real, that's such a huge profit for three months.

This is legit because he has a million bank roll on his account. He is using his own money aside from his streamer profit during the time he suffers addiction. He got an interview on one of Pokimane live stream and he admit that have a gambling problem that time that caused him million dollars loss, it’s possible that he have that 686M wager volume since he is betting max bet during his gambling streams. I remember xQc has a lot of money from his stream profit to sustain his gambling addiction until he loss it all.

How can the viewers be sold to the advertisers?  It is the viewers who have to decide whether they will try the platform or not.  In any case, it is the casino who is selling their services to the viewer so it is kinda impossible that viewers are being sold to the casino because the streamer only promotes 1 Casino because of its sponsorship.


I am lost, can you give more details on this?

Most streamers stream because of mixture of passion and money generation. Of course, they have to be practical as well. During this trying times, they have to earn in order to put food onto their tables, to make their ends meet, and maybe to put up with the lifestyle that they want for themselves. Most do paid or sponsored streaming and I don't see anything wrong with it as long as they will declare it and won't spread false information to their viewers. Because after all, their job given with that kind of contract is to promote and to encourage their audience to try and play in that specific platform.

Well, by the time that you've watched the streamer and there are ads, you're already being sold to them and that's what advertisers want. To just be exposed to their viewers. Just like using social media, they're free but we are the products and we're sold to the advertisers.

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The problem is not technical but primarily moral. And here I mean the streamers who promote sites that they are not sure of their credibility and have not tried them enough, or at least check the available reviews about them.
Lately I have been following the case of Bitlucy, a scammer casino that mainly relied for its propaganda on these streamers who only care about who pays them the most. One of them was said that he had won thousands of dollars and was able to withdraw them to his wallet, while the platform at the time did not have a payment system working at all. This led to great losses for users, especially since the promotion was for the bonuses that the user would get for the first deposit.
I personally do not trust them and do not advise the rest to follow their advice even if they know them personally.

Probably the streamer is sponsored so he really won't review the casino since he will not lose anything.  All he needs is to stream get winning and withdraw his commission.  There are lots of streamers that doesn't mind if the casino has a valid accusation, all they care about is the money that they can get on streaming and the percentage of the amount wins.
If the streamer is able to withdraw the fund, of course, he will say that he gets the money through successful withdrawal. 

You mentioned a case in particular of a streamer promoting a scam casino. It's indeed a moral issue, but not every streamers who decide to promote a single platform exclusively should be labeled like this, since they promote legit casinos and don't deceive the audience by having advantages not disponible for common players.

I usually follow videos and series from small gamblers, because these are the most realistic and honest ones. When they cast a series (bankroll management/growment), every videos are done in one site exclusively and it is actually good to see their progression inside the platform. However, I must highlight I only watch these videos for entertainment purposes, as we shouldn't follow streamers' steps for real. People sometimes misunderstand this fact and think they will reproduce the same results when exactly repeating what streamers do.

Doesnt matter on what language would be used by those streamers yet it would really share up on the same motive and intent in mind which is to advertise on the gambling site or platform on where they been paid on.So it would be normal that they would really be just following on whats been mandated or whats been instructed.The thing only here is that whether they would really be having that deceiving kind of intent or
behavior or would really be just simply honest with their actions and just simply doing their job on a fair way.I dont see something wrong with these kind of streams yet this had been a very common way or been
one of the trending jobs since we know that earning money through this is decent and you are just simply showing off on to the public on how things should be done.

That is why it is important to learn English, in order to fully understand people who are talking in English.  Besides, why are you watching  English language streams when you have difficulty understanding them?  If you are uncomfortable discussing Streamers, you have an option not to participate in the discussion since replying here is all at your own free will.

it is the universal language, so expect that english would always be the medium here. that's right, it is your own prerogative to watch these streamers. and it is your own accord how you will react on them. for sure, some of them are paid, so be careful on what they are endorsing. i don't think it will be uncomfortable if you know what they are discussing with. the concern for me is more on how truthful are these streamers are with what they are showing to their audience.

People need to be incredibly careful when there is a language barrier between two people, sometimes it is even difficult to understand each other when you have complete mastery over the same language, imagine how difficult it can be for two people to try to communicate with each other when one of them doesn't have mastery over that language, so for someone that is not confident on their English language skills they can always try to look for information on their native language, so they do not get the mistaken idea of trying to make profits out of the casinos.

Maybe he thinks that it's too obvious that the streamer is doing a promotional play if he is only gambling with one site and not with the other but no one is forcing to watch the stream anyway. If they hate what the streamer is doing then they can simply ignore it and watch those natural streamers which aren't connected to any gambling sites.

We have so many whale gambler that risk huge amounts. Maybe if he sees that, he will also think that those guys are affiliated with a gambling site. There are streamers which aren't connected to a gambling site but will only play on one site because for them this is already the best and they can't afford to place more bets on any other gambling sites.

There are streamers who do things like this as reviews some might not really affiliate to the site itself

most of those small time gamblers who stream their games are just simply enjoying sharing how they play the game, if those
streamers reach enough viewers that will be the time that the website / casino owners will contact them.

Not all the time, it's already an established advertisement for the casino. There are still streamers who are trying to engage
for a good compensation.

Now (however, as before) you can not trust anyone. The essence of the work of streamers is that they are purchasable, (I'm talking about the most popular ones) - if someone offers them a contract under which they will receive x10 compared to the income that the audience itself gives them (donations, subscriptions, etc.), then 99 out of 100 will agree without hesitation.
But we should not forget about the naivety of people - if they see how every evening a streamer loses 5-10 thousand dollars in a casino, then it is worth considering whether this is real money  ;D

I agree streamers are being sponsored, so basically they will promote the one sponsoring them since they are getting paid.  I bet many of us know that.  We just watch for entertainment or how their featured game works.

Some streamer admits that they are playing with sponsored money while others tend to hide it. The money involved is real, but often than not, they are not owned by the streamer.

You could eventually able to find out with just having that simple observation and if a streamer isnt really that known yet then it would be impossible that it would be spending thousands of dollars on gambling and showing
into a stream where it would really be understandable or easy to understand on how it do works and how it could really affect your actions basing up on what you are seeing.It would be just normal that they would really be advertising on whats been asked or been told them to do so and since they are just workers and earning up money then they would be definitely be agreeing on that and whether they do say about sponsored
or personal money then it would really be not much of an issue.We do want here is about transparency and being fair on the first place.

I think it is legitimate that they receive sponsor money to promote the casino in question, however if that is the case then they need to reveal that information, if they do not do so and then they win any amount of money this will give the false impression that anyone can do what they can do when this is not true, since they do not feel in the same way than those which are using their money and which can get very emotional after a big win or loss.

Without sponsor and how is it possible for streamer wasting millions or even hundreds of milliions to bet. i didn't even think if they can do that without getting funded by the site owner directly and yeah they play without any money but as a sponsorship for the platform itself. The site can easily credit your account with as much as possible.

Sponsorship money to provide support to promoters or influencers to keep doing what they are doing to increase users from the gambling place because nowadays there are many who are like that, sometimes there are influencers who say to the public that they are paid to do that or sometimes they are prefer to be silent and enjoy the results, it could also be when gambling they use fake money that has been set by the gambling place so they can have a lot of money and play a lot of games. so the main point as a gambling audience is better to stay careful when streaming gambling and don't get influenced.

The only difference between the streamers and ordinary gamblers are that they do not own the money they are betting. They actually can also lose. But, they can bet or make it roll until they hit a jackpot or until they at least hit a profit. This create an illusion that if you continue to bet, you will eventually win and make profit. But we all know that it is a gamblers fallacy. But to regular guys, it looks so fantastic.

Most of us just watch for entertainment or sometimes research, specifically, on mechanics of the game. That is why watching them chase profit can also be educational to us gamblers.

So whether it is sponsored or not, whether they declare or not, it is the same to me. As long as i am entertained watching them or i have learned something, it is fine.

I love watching these gambling streamers but I never once thought about mimicking their acts like chasing all the losses to the extent that a normal gambler cannot do anymore.
But the reactions they make when they hit the jackpot are hilarious. I think that is where the entertainment part comes in.
Viewers want to see them win it back and witness what face they will make if ever they hit it.
No gambler should try to copy what they are doing, it's money wasted which are fed to them to show possible outcomes only or to prove that hitting the jackpot is achievable.

Yes and that's why we have seen tremendous rise of streamers and online casinos as well. It's because of the mutual benefit from each others, streamers are being paid to sponsor the casino and casino making a good revenue.

False information or not, it is business strategy. And so we gamblers should now that and up to us whether we fall for this trick or just play on gambling platform that we like without betting big such as this streamers.

When a streamer uses sponsored money, I don't think it's false information because the streamer still uses real money, it's just that it's not his personal money, and if many people are tempted to play because they see broadcasts from the streamer but don't get the same results as the streamer then that's just different luck.

Yes , there are some but most of streamers now are just a paid account from those gambling site to promote their casino  intentionally .
but us our main concern here? it is the  gambling site and the gambling itself how winnable and how trust worthy.
everything is about Money matter , so lets admit the fact that they are promoting because of money..

The streamer wouldn't say they worked for the casino making the video because it's their secret and unfortunately, a lot of the viewers don't know that either other than just following what the streamers are doing. The audience finally visits the casino site on the video streamer and tries to play gambling there and when they find that the casino site is what they want, the audience starts depositing some money. That means streamers successfully influence viewers to visit the casino site; in this case, those streamers can get extra money from viewers because they register via the link in the video description.

You don't have to be discouraged while losing, have you ever reason how much they lost while playing?
Winning is not constant while winning is not constant any time you make your prediction correctly then you stand the chances of winning or more impacts. Increasing your wager might not be the right option for you coupled with you keeping an eyes on them for about 1 year plus. I think is more self development. Have you asked yourself a simple question on how they are playing it?
Some might play for fun and while other might play just because they might be lucky to hit while some plays to increase their income.

Don't you also think it might be a paid streamer or something similar?

Lately, I've been watching different broadcasts of slot games a little bit, and firstly, I can say that it looks like a niche for losers: one streamer is a former professional Navi player (either DotA or CS), another streamer is a former porn star, etc. Secondly, I have never seen them win anything. Sometimes they win x20 or even x50, but in general the deposit always decreases. Can such content attract new players to the casino?

Maybe there influence in there past career can attract new player because for sure their followers before may try or test on what they are currently doing, but for sure that's for short term only because for seeing that there bankroll decrease from time to time for sure there followers will find it irrelevant and leave because for sure they see those happenings as crazy things for them to continue believing them.

Haha, Watching Drake is much worse than that, He is losing million dollar in his balance like he is betting just penny and he do it while sipping his mojito and vaping. I think the entertainment and thrill is what makes the viewers attracted on gambling by watching this streamers rather than seeing them actually win on one of there session. Of course seeing them win huge amount is one of the interesting part of stream which viewers becomes happy but watching them play for who we are is what really make us stay to watch them. Because if an unknown guy is streaming, I’m sure he will not get any viewer stay watching to him.

I think the same, if a young person, or a child who is not old enough for games of chance sees them, it is remarkably the fault of their parents, for not monitoring or supervising what their children do, that is why when a minor commits an act of vandalism, sometimes they are not imprisoned but the parents, because they are the responsibility that they must bear, and not let them do everything adrift, no matter how good our children are, they need supervision and of all the attention they pay online, in fact, entering a casino is as harmless as possible, something they should be afraid of is rapists, pedophiles that unfortunately exist.


Well, whenever live presentations are made, I particularly like how they play, every time I've seen the live broadcasts regarding stake, at least with Eddie it's something else, when he plays anything sometimes he doesn't have good streak and that it is seen that it is not with stake funds but from Eddie, of course what apsa is that Eddie makes it very exciting, at least with Drake he is a person who causes a lot of fame and some just want to see Drake, not so much for the casino but to see it and read the things that are written to it, of course this is something that is possible in stake, many platforms want to match stake.com in this regard, but everyone wants to have someone like Drake in their casinos.

Maybe it depends if they are lively and entertaining when they are casting their streams. It is all about the appeal of the streamers. If they can get the curiosity of their viewers then they can attract new players. But based on your reaction, it seems that they are not entertaining enough hence you question their ability to attract new casino players.

But then again, they are ex-professional gamers and porn stars, I am sure they have avid fans and followers they can entice to play. Who knows, different people have different tastes in things. Maybe to us, it is not entertaining and convincing enough but to others, it could be different.

correct! it's to hard to believe that they are worth it to follow because of a reason that they are promoting a platform, indeed at the first place it didn't make sense because everyone now is doing the same things especially the popular ones.  And obviously as well that even they play and even they lose money from it while streaming, surely afterwards they can earn more than what they risk, Probably 10x.? they really make as dumb tbh. Lol

No, it wasn't the streamer's money. His demonstration of gambling activity with that money doesn't carry the same sentiment compared to the average user. They're typical high rollers on the house with no stress involved. Just makes their gambling action and experience seem hollow for viewers and doesn't reflect on the case. Viewers found enjoyment from that is beyond me.

I see Streamers the test guys, for example if a person has no experience in gambling, create an account and then that person sees many games in the casino and has no idea what game to play, how to play and what strategy to use , what advantage and disadvantage will this person have, what possible profit vs loss will this person have? so this person starting to watch the Streamers playing can be a great advantage for them, because with that this person will be able to have an answer to all questions, but of course this does not guarantee profit because the person should not do 100% copy/paste that what Streamers is doing, that would be a big absurdity, the person will only have the basis of how to do things. That's why I think Streamers are test guys

Almost all of you agree that there are some honest streamers out there who share their experience in order to provide feedback, can you tell us how you came to that?
Streamers will not gain anything from publishing these recordings or displaying them to be shown later to the owners of the gambling platforms in the hope of reaching a profitable deal.
Since there is no way to be sure of this, the most plausible hypothesis is that the streamer works for the platform he uses, unless we find that streamer provides a negative evaluation of one of the platforms based on his experience, which is what I do not expect anyone to do.

this depends on how they communicate with their audience or how their audience relates to the streamer's situation when gambling. streamers(not just gambling streamers) don't just rely on how they always win to make content and keep their audience, they also rely on how they will make the losing experience enjoyable, relatable, etc...

Not every streamers are directly connected to the platforms they play at. We can reach this conclusion by logically thinking there are hundreds or thousands of them, therefore it's impossible for casinos to pay all these people to promote their businesses in a daily basis. I believe a minority of them (the most popular ones) are paid by casinos, while majority of streamers earn through ads on their videos and referral comissions earned through the public who follow their videos. Maybe once small streamers grow in relevance and popularity, some casinos try to approach them to make a proposal...

Not true. No way the gambling site will hire several streamers just to promote their site. And it's not that simple.

And besides, isn't it an obvious reason for let's say why the casino is funding their desired streamer? Of course to promote the casino intentionally. Why casino will spend money to support this streamer if it's not about their casino to be put on the content lol.

To your last point, of course, these streamers are doing content for money. Is there any other reason why they are putting effort into making content?