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Title: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 10:50:32 AM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. 8)

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.

Pass Line/Come Bets = You win if the dice roll 7 or 11, lose if it's 2, 3, or 12.

Don't Pass/Don't Come Bets = You win if the dice roll 2, 3, 12, lose if it's 7 or 11.

But there's more in the game when it's any roll that's not a 2, 3, 7, 11 or 12.

This is a short introduction about the basics of Craps, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsSpNm_iCw

This is a longer version about the basics of Craps, and how to play Craps, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6i5SkIn2VY

Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

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Jay Bean, a Caesar's floor manager, agreed to sit down with us and talk about the games with the best odds.

He said many people don't realize that table games have much better odds than slots. They are intimidated by thoughts of card sharks taking their money, with images of an intense Texas Hold 'Em tournament in their minds, and so they stick with the safe games: the slots.

But they are doing themselves a disservice, he said.

Bean's advice?

1. Blackjack

Blackjack has the best odds of winning, with a house edge of just 1 percent in most casinos, Bean said.

Plus, you are playing against only the dealer, not hooded poker champions.

"Blackjack is one of our easiest games to play," Bean said. "You're just looking for a number that beats the dealer's number without going over 21."

If you're a novice, Bean said to sit down during a less busy time, such as the afternoon, and the dealer will walk you through the game.

But the same is not true with poker: You should practice the game with your friends first, at home, Bean said, until you are comfortable with it. Bean said novices are best off passing on the poker tables, where yes, the competition can be tough.

2. Craps

So from the Blackjack table, he suggests moving on to the dice game Craps, the game with the second best odds, also nearly 50-50.

The Craps table can be a bit intimidating for the beginner with all the boxes on the table, Bean admitted. But it's really not tough, and it has one of your best chances of winning. In the end, all you are really doing is betting on a dice roll.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/before-you-go-gambling-the-best-and-worst-casino-game-odds



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: yahoo62278 on September 30, 2022, 12:04:32 PM
If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: agustina2 on September 30, 2022, 12:23:48 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: coolcoinz on September 30, 2022, 01:14:44 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: yahoo62278 on September 30, 2022, 01:45:45 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

I love playing Blackjack and always to to play by those charts as that in the long run gives you the best chance of being a consistent winnr. It's really hard to play what is considered "by the book" at a table where other players are playing terribly though, so you have to be aware of the players around you and decide if you want to stay at that table or try to find a better group to play with. Most casinos online and live usually have multiple table.

Your view on poker I 100% agree with. You control your fate more in poker.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 30, 2022, 01:47:12 PM
BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

So far I still play Blackjack and regularly I always try it 2x a week. Although not very good at guessing because getting 21 points against the house we will always be played with. It's just that when I think about it, I get a higher win rate in Blackjack. For that some games like Roulette and Craps I still don't like fully. In Blackjack when we have been getting 21 points continuously the ambition is to double the bet. The higher the multiple, the bigger we are toyed with. Now, what I often do is fix the win, which is every 3 or 4 times I get 21 points, which means I cash out, even if I lose 3 - 4 times.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Haunebu on September 30, 2022, 01:53:12 PM
Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Eternad on September 30, 2022, 01:58:14 PM
Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.

Fair point. This is the pros and cons on gambling. Low house edge games provides 1:1 or lesser/a little bit high reward and it’s perfect for players that want a play safe strategy while most of the high house edge games provides high risk high reward and perfect gamblers that wants one time big time win.

In gambling, playing faster to win big is the best to eliminate human error such as impatience that usually trigger the common mistakes of gambler to lose all there bank roll no matter how low the house edge is.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: chaser15 on September 30, 2022, 02:09:58 PM
I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available.

Even we don't know these games? Just play on those because of the low house edge?

I think for that kind of the reason I will disagree with you.

Didn't you know that I already experienced lots of times winning in slots? Those stunning graphics when we hit that multipliers or bonus are really exciting as we can expect that a big win is coming for a high chance. I don't play Blackjack because of my small knowledge of the game. Dice seems simple to me. Playing roulette only to play on specific picks seems boring.

I will play based on my own factor disregarding the house edges and RTPs.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: YOSHIE on September 30, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.
I have tried several games on online gambling sites, the three types of games as you mentioned above such as: Roullette, Craps as well as BlackJack I have tried, it's a common game that people have played, I dare say those three games the average member here has ever tried to play.
Like: Roullette, I don't play method (black and red) I play three at high house 2x/orange, 2x/white and 14x/yellow.

I'm sure every online crypto casino on this forum provides craps table games, it's the type of casino game that has a thrill of excitement and tension, unfortunately i'm always unlucky in betting dice coming out is dice unlucky for me never coming out good dice for me Craps is the worst rolling game I've ever played.

But I don't blame Craps casino addicts, maybe some gamblers have strategy and hockey in the game, but not for me.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Solosanz on September 30, 2022, 03:44:41 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: bitbollo on September 30, 2022, 04:10:06 PM
Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more :( I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss :(

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money :(



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on October 01, 2022, 09:07:48 AM
If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.


You're right, I'm sorry, but I was merely making a viewpoint that it might be better for the plebs like us to play just the casino games with the lower house edge, than to play games that might definitely end them in a bad path. I'm adding more information to the OP, and I will continue to edit and add again.

I also removed Roulette from the OP, the house edge is more than 2% from the information I saw.

If anyone has more casino games to add with low house edge, post them.

Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more :( I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss :(

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money :(


Good advice! That's why, IF YOU, or SOMEONE, wants to gamble in a casino, which games should they choose? The casinos games with lower house edge. 8)

Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.


Lower house edge = lesser percentage of loss relative to your capital. It's just an advice, but if you want to play any casino game with higher house edge for fun, no one can stop you.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: yahoo62278 on October 01, 2022, 09:20:14 AM
If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.


You're right, I'm sorry, but I was merely making a viewpoint that it might be better for the plebs like us to play just the casino games with the lower house edge, than to play games that might definitely end them in a bad path. I'm adding more information to the OP, and I will continue to edit and add again.


Looks a lot better after the edits. I would still move the topic to gambling discussion, but other then that it looks much better. Craps has so many betting aspects, you have to give users somewhat of a tutorial or they will just be wasting their money and not knowing how to play.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: bitbollo on October 01, 2022, 10:03:43 AM
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Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more :( I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss :(

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money :(


Good advice! That's why, IF YOU, or SOMEONE, wants to gamble in a casino, which games should they choose? The casinos games with lower house edge. 8)

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From my point of view, I don't play for "earn" or thinking that I can won some good amounts from my casino games. I don't have the expectation to have some return, so since I am just playing for the fun so "any" games is suitable.... basic have the right mindset and a defined budget. I find very boring slots, definitely more fun BlackJack or Roulette.
However for a "high roller" or a player that wager a lot, it's always important have a look on house edge!


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: mindrust on October 01, 2022, 10:20:17 AM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. 8)

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

So the game don't really matter in the end. It is all about the house edge. If some other casino provides a lower house edge than 1.52% then it will be a better game than craps. You named a betting strategy there but I am pretty sure you already know by now that these strategies are worthless. When you play a luck based game these strategies/algos only make you lose for sure because the house edge becomes more and more effective as long as you keep playing.

The only and the best way to avoid getting caught by the house edge is playing less and wagering all your bankroll.

If the house edge is 1.5%, that means on a x2 game, you'll have 48.5% chance to win that bet. That chance is definitely not small. You can fool math if you play once as 48.5% and 51.5% are pretty damn close but if you don't stop and keep playing that you'll lose.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Haunebu on October 02, 2022, 06:06:40 AM
In gambling, playing faster to win big is the best to eliminate human error such as impatience that usually trigger the common mistakes of gambler to lose all there bank roll no matter how low the house edge is.
Agreed. It's very, very difficult to stay patient in the gambling world. This is why I personally prefer yolo gambling in the short sessions when compared to utilising gambling strategies for longer sessions.

Lower house edge = lesser percentage of loss relative to your capital. It's just an advice, but if you want to play any casino game with higher house edge for fun, no one can stop you.
Low house edge games do help slow down your losses and help extend player sessions which is why your advice is helpful for sure though I place more emphasis on the fun aspect.

Truthfully, most gamblers focus on the fun aspect disregarding the house edge completely.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Saint-loup on October 02, 2022, 01:14:13 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. 8)

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.
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Your topic is interesting but at which casino do you play craps currently? Very few live casinos are offering this game actually, because I think it's a little bit complicated to quickly understand all the rules for a beginner.
Regarding the house edge it isn't the lowest among live games if your figures are correct. Blackjack house edge is almost 3 times lower than that, and Baccarat house edge is also lower than 1.5% even without commission and still lower than those figures if you bet on player.
Moreover you can find few slots claiming they have a RTP of 99%, which is hard to check though.

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5d12448fc74ddd9b68841166/6033e12a5e29915cd007dd32_graphic%206%402x.png
https://www.tangamsystems.com/post/north-america-its-time-to-adopt-no-commission-baccarat


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wiss19 on October 02, 2022, 02:29:12 PM
I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available.

Even we don't know these games? Just play on those because of the low house edge?

I think for that kind of the reason I will disagree with you.

Didn't you know that I already experienced lots of times winning in slots? Those stunning graphics when we hit that multipliers or bonus are really exciting as we can expect that a big win is coming for a high chance. I don't play Blackjack because of my small knowledge of the game. Dice seems simple to me. Playing roulette only to play on specific picks seems boring.

I will play based on my own factor disregarding the house edges and RTPs.
Those games are not even hard to understand. I think they are the most basic games when it comes to casino gambling. Those games do also exist offline so many people are already aware on what they look like or on how to place a bet on them. They are perfect for plebs or common people without have a special knowledge.

What is better with them is that they have the lowest house edge but each of us has their own favourites. Once we try some games we can make a judgment if we like them and if we will continue playing on them so it's fine if you don't like the three games offered by the op. Just continue playing with your slots.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lionheart78 on October 02, 2022, 08:39:12 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. 8)

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

So the game don't really matter in the end. It is all about the house edge. If some other casino provides a lower house edge than 1.52% then it will be a better game than craps. You named a betting strategy there but I am pretty sure you already know by now that these strategies are worthless. When you play a luck based game these strategies/algos only make you lose for sure because the house edge becomes more and more effective as long as you keep playing.


As far as my experience tell me, any luck based game will give us random result.  No matter how high the house edge is, especially in slots.  House edge is countered by RTP, wherein after several losses, a script where you can get a huge winning bet will appear.  Though how to trigger that RTP is somehow alien to me  ;D

The only and the best way to avoid getting caught by the house edge is playing less and wagering all your bankroll.

If we do this kind of strategy, it may evade the house edge but we are also missing the RTP, besided since it is a game of chance, there is a huge possibility that we can get busted even before any of the two triggered.


If the house edge is 1.5%, that means on a x2 game, you'll have 48.5% chance to win that bet. That chance is definitely not small. You can fool math if you play once as 48.5% and 51.5% are pretty damn close but if you don't stop and keep playing that you'll lose.

I agree, the difference between the percentage will come visible in the long run.  If we are used to playing in Dice with 98.5% of winning, we can see that in a long time playing, the red streak become obvious and continue to become frequent the longer we spend time rolling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: passwordnow on October 02, 2022, 08:55:20 PM
I haven't played craps but if that's the strategy that works for you then that's good but it may not work for those that would try it. I guess that advice at the end is applicable to everyone that gambles with any other games.
We have the luck, we have to analyze and make strategies that we do for the games that we play. We have to remember that majority of them have always the house edge and the bigger chance is always on the casino itself and not with us.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Viscore on October 03, 2022, 07:51:06 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.
I guess in gambling, whether you came from a high or low social status, that won’t give you a guarantee to win as gambling will always be a game of chance and luck, and that the house will always win. Even if you play in those low edge house casinos, losses will always be inevitable. But if you know how to manage your finances and you always play in an amount you can afford to lose, losing will never become a big deal on you.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Strongkored on October 04, 2022, 02:12:51 AM
I haven't played craps but if that's the strategy that works for you then that's good but it may not work for those that would try it. I guess that advice at the end is applicable to everyone that gambles with any other games.
We have the luck, we have to analyze and make strategies that we do for the games that we play. We have to remember that majority of them have always the house edge and the bigger chance is always on the casino itself and not with us.
I've also never played craps so I don't understand the strategy to make a chance to win bigger  and also when playing other types of games don't really pay much attention to the house edge, because in my opinion all casino games except games that require skill are very dependent on luck.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Nrcewker on October 04, 2022, 02:39:39 AM
If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Poker Player on October 04, 2022, 03:21:25 AM
Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

I don't think he has forgotten it as he is clearly talking about House Edge. What strikes me is that he uses the term "plebs", which sounds almost medieval to me.

Check the vocabulary you use, OP, you can't have that low regard for yourself, never mind that you don't have a lot of money.

Regarding the other thing you say, in casino games the house wins in the long run inevitably due to the House Edge, but still, they attract many players because they provide entertainment and online crypto casinos usually provide a fairly high RTP, which together with cashback reduces the HE quite a lot.

In other types of games such as sports betting or poker, you can be a winner in the long term, but all that glitters is not gold, because even in these types of games the vast majority of players are losers.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: davis196 on October 04, 2022, 06:14:47 AM
You are coming up with the assumption that the gamblers must gamble with the mentality of "winning more money or at least losing less money". I've always thought that this is a wrong mentality. Gambling is supposed to be fun, not a chore(assuming that you know when to stop and don't get addicted). To me, the mentality of gambling in order to win some money will always lead to addiction.
I wouldn't play boring games like BlackJack or Crabs only because they offer lower house edge and I have a higher chance to win money.
Just play more interesting games(even when they have higher house edge) and know when to stop.
At the end of the day, the casinos make most of their money from the gambling addicts. This is the ugly truth.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on October 05, 2022, 03:00:37 AM
If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

We have seen this thing about the house winning since we were little and in the movies, it is something common, for me a casino that gives players more advantage is because it is in trouble, it is like banks when they advertise, and I have seen some casinos that claim to have the lowest house edge there is, and all at once I think that they are in trouble, that they don't have many players, that they need to move the casino games, that they have more publicity or something, but we can't get on To think that a casino is going to give money away and if a casino does that of giving money away, it quickly goes bankrupt, even if it is 1 dollar, a casino takes good care of it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on October 05, 2022, 03:18:38 AM
You are coming up with the assumption that the gamblers must gamble with the mentality of "winning more money or at least losing less money". I've always thought that this is a wrong mentality. Gambling is supposed to be fun, not a chore(assuming that you know when to stop and don't get addicted). To me, the mentality of gambling in order to win some money will always lead to addiction.

That's the point. It is by no means to be taken as a system for making money. The ideal is to think about entertainment. Like going to the cinema, but with the difference that at the end of the session you may leave with more money than you came in with.

<...> for me a casino that gives players more advantage is because it is in trouble, it is like banks when they advertise, and I have seen some casinos that claim to have the lowest house edge there is, and all at once I think that they are in trouble <...>

You are wrong. A lower margin attracts more customers. It does not inexorably mean that the casino is in trouble.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on October 05, 2022, 10:36:03 AM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. 8)

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.
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Your topic is interesting but at which casino do you play craps currently? Very few live casinos are offering this game actually, because I think it's a little bit complicated to quickly understand all the rules for a beginner.


I play Craps in BlackJack.fun, Betplay, and Owl.Games, but most of my time is currently in BlackJack.fun because of the free spins as rewards for playing, and because they have an active community there. Plus I believe most of the casinos that have Evolution Gaming also have Craps. You have to go to Evolution's actual lobby and search for "Craps", it will be there.

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Regarding the house edge it isn't the lowest among live games if your figures are correct. Blackjack house edge is almost 3 times lower than that, and Baccarat house edge is also lower than 1.5% even without commission and still lower than those figures if you bet on player.
Moreover you can find few slots claiming they have a RTP of 99%, which is hard to check though.

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https://www.tangamsystems.com/post/north-america-its-time-to-adopt-no-commission-baccarat


I believe I never claimed that Craps has the lowest house edge? Although, it's among the lowest, and relatively very low compared to slot machines.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on October 06, 2022, 12:21:47 AM
Assuming or imagining that I am a pleb  :P I think that we should all be playing mostly poker, as mostly as a social activity. It is more likely to end in winnings and fun than most games out there in the casinos and in my view much more fun that those you listed. Anyway, thanks for the compilation and I will see that I learn a bit about each of those ones.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Silberman on October 06, 2022, 01:44:11 AM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.
I think it makes sense that people look for games with the lowest house edge possible, but at the same time all of that is for nothing if we are not having any kind of fun, so the first criteria should be to find games in which we feel comfortable and that give us the fun and excitement we are looking for, and once that has been taken care for then we can look for the variation of the game which has the lowest house edge and which allows us to play the longest.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Peanutswar on October 06, 2022, 06:13:03 AM
The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Kakmakr on October 06, 2022, 06:21:31 AM
You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  :P

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  ::)

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  ;) (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  8)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: EarnOnVictor on October 06, 2022, 07:29:52 AM
Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.
I am with you on this, house edge should not be total, I was so amazed when I was reading what the OP wrote as if it was a fixed budget affair. Dice rolling and casinos, in general, do not work like that as nothing works 100% with gambling, but to just follow someone's mind/instincts and variable approaches, is not fixed advice from anyone.

No one should be total in a certain approach to gambling and must find a way to play based on what their minds are telling them at that current time.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Silberman on October 09, 2022, 01:37:41 AM
You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  :P

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  ::)

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  ;) (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  8)
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lienfaye on October 09, 2022, 04:23:05 AM
Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.
Indeed. Biggest wins can also be found to other games that have high house edge.

Well, it's a good idea to choose a game with low house edge for your own benefit but I think before that, ask ourselves if that's the game we prefer to play or the one that can entertain us more. If you're more concern on the house edge then probably you are a kind of gambler who's afraid to lose your money (or should I say not prepared) despite knowing the risk if you gamble it. There are plenty of games that we can choose from even we our plebs, moreover it's nice to win if you least expect it because you're just playing to entertain yourself.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 10, 2022, 09:38:07 AM
You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  :P

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  ::)

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  ;) (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  8)
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.
Well, it will depend on which one will give pleasure to each gambler because they will have their favorite game. And for the amount of bets they will use will also depend on how much money they deposit into their account. If they always remember gambling is just for entertainment and fun, they will not treat gambling as a way to make money. They will only spend their time playing gambling; as soon as they get it, they will stop and leave it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dezoel on October 13, 2022, 02:00:22 PM
The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.
Until now there are still people who did not know this and there are some who know this but acted like they didn't know it. For them, gambling casinos are a money dispenser which can provide them extra cash but I think they know that it wasn't easy but for them to win they need to grind hard first in the game or be able to lose big first.

Once they win, there are times where they are not happy. They don't enjoy their winnings yet by withdrawing and spending it because they risk it again in the hopes of making it more bigger. There's no way for each gambler to beat the game or the house and there are times that strategies and techniques will stop working.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 14, 2022, 01:27:35 AM
BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

So far I still play Blackjack and regularly I always try it 2x a week. Although not very good at guessing because getting 21 points against the house we will always be played with. It's just that when I think about it, I get a higher win rate in Blackjack. For that some games like Roulette and Craps I still don't like fully. In Blackjack when we have been getting 21 points continuously the ambition is to double the bet. The higher the multiple, the bigger we are toyed with. Now, what I often do is fix the win, which is every 3 or 4 times I get 21 points, which means I cash out, even if I lose 3 - 4 times.

Well, I have always been playing Black Jack before and I like the experience, however I can say that Black Jack is a game that can give us an idea that when we play against the house, the house does not hesitate to take risks and has much more luck than one as a player (obviously the house advantage) and us when we risk well in my particular case whenever I am at 17, 16, I choose one more card and suddenly a 10 comes up and goodbye to the game, then it is something hard, you have to have enough decision to put off playing against the house, at least that is what has happened to me, I don't know about you but I have had that perception.

You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  :P

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  ::)

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  ;) (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  8)
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.
Well, it will depend on which one will give pleasure to each gambler because they will have their favorite game. And for the amount of bets they will use will also depend on how much money they deposit into their account. If they always remember gambling is just for entertainment and fun, they will not treat gambling as a way to make money. They will only spend their time playing gambling; as soon as they get it, they will stop and leave it.
Well, I think something, whatever the game, whether it has a lot or a little risk, games of chance always point in the same direction, if you choose a game with little risk, the chances of losing in the long term are imminent, maybe Sometimes low risk games are won on many occasions but when very large bets are made I think things will balance out and obviously it will go in favor of the house, that detail can never be forgotten, whoever plays believing that they can beat the house Well, it's very bad, this is something that many players want to achieve and it's not very smart, at least I know that many see it that way, but the results will never be favorable for the player.

The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.
Until now there are still people who did not know this and there are some who know this but acted like they didn't know it. For them, gambling casinos are a money dispenser which can provide them extra cash but I think they know that it wasn't easy but for them to win they need to grind hard first in the game or be able to lose big first.

Once they win, there are times where they are not happy. They don't enjoy their winnings yet by withdrawing and spending it because they risk it again in the hopes of making it more bigger. There's no way for each gambler to beat the game or the house and there are times that strategies and techniques will stop working.
Exactly, there are many techniques or ways that a player can apply in a casino, but that is something that one should not trust, sooner or later the house always wins, the house will always have the advantage, what a player who has a good profit is that you take them, go away and enjoy them in something else, and if you come back to play it is not good to bet the same, but what is needed so that you can enjoy the game, otherwise you will have many losses , and sometimes some losses are very difficult to recover, sometimes it is like something impossible, that is why a player when he loses, should not seek revenge.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on October 27, 2022, 10:33:56 AM
If anyone wants to learn how to play Craps, you can practice for fun without risking your own coins through BetPlay's casino, https://betplay.io/en/casino/play/1547/first-person-craps/fun

There's no requirement to log in, or to register for an account. You can just go to that link, and click/tap "play for fun", then it will take you to the table. The game is in "easy mode", and it highlights which numbers will give you a win, or a lose, depending where you place the bets.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 27, 2022, 12:16:27 PM
Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.
I am with you on this, house edge should not be total, I was so amazed when I was reading what the OP wrote as if it was a fixed budget affair. Dice rolling and casinos, in general, do not work like that as nothing works 100% with gambling, but to just follow someone's mind/instincts and variable approaches, is not fixed advice from anyone.

No one should be total in a certain approach to gambling and must find a way to play based on what their minds are telling them at that current time.

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.

If anyone wants to learn how to play Craps, you can practice for fun without risking your own coins through BetPlay's casino, https://betplay.io/en/casino/play/1547/first-person-craps/fun

There's no requirement to log in, or to register for an account. You can just go to that link, and click/tap "play for fun", then it will take you to the table. The game is in "easy mode", and it highlights which numbers will give you a win, or a lose, depending where you place the bets.

It is a great option, the truth is that craps is a game that very few people play because they do not understand it very well, but it is pure gold that you have brought it here, I did not know that you could practice it there, Betplay has great options to have good participation, I haven't checked the betplay thread much, but I imagine they also have contests related to Halloween? this type of casinos that are very good generally have options to take advantage of the times, what you indicate here to practice craps is that it maintains or can maintain anonymity, there is no login requirement or something like that to be able to participate , is excellent.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 27, 2022, 01:35:23 PM
Thank you OP for the insight, ive never played any of the two games you mentioned, ive always focused on games provided by pragmatics and evolution or something of some sort, forgive me if i happen to be mixing things up, sometimes, i get really confused with all this stuffs.

I will try my luck on craps and see how it goes, win or lose, i will gladly appreciate the fun at the the end of it all, gambling  doest have to be about winning all the time, sometimes, it a great way to make time run faster.

And about being a pleb, for myself, i wont dispute this, cus i am like a NG(new guy) OG(old guy) in gambling, ive been gambling for quite some years now and ive not really learnt much about it, neither have i won any significant amount of money from it, so i think i agree with you.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on October 27, 2022, 01:36:08 PM

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.

I would like to add one more thing to your opinion.  

The fact is that as you gain experience in the game, almost all players begin to experience changes in their preferences.  Many games become uninteresting and vice versa others begin to attract more and more.  And by the way, almost any new game gives a person a new experience.  And the player can gradually improve their skills.  
By the way, the experience of games that you are tired of playing can also be very useful.  
All this is a necessary process in striving for the professionalism of the player, when he begins to foresee the probabilities of events with some strange feeling and, accordingly, make bets,


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on October 28, 2022, 10:25:11 AM

Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.


I would like to add one more thing to your opinion.  

The fact is that as you gain experience in the game, almost all players begin to experience changes in their preferences.  Many games become uninteresting and vice versa others begin to attract more and more.  And by the way, almost any new game gives a person a new experience.  And the player can gradually improve their skills.  

By the way, the experience of games that you are tired of playing can also be very useful. All this is a necessary process in striving for the professionalism of the player, when he begins to foresee the probabilities of events with some strange feeling and, accordingly, make bets.


I believe if the games a person plays is always simple games of "gamble/games of chance" without involving any strategy, then those games could become uninteresting especially if that person always loses. Because what's captivating in playing a game like slots everyday of your life, for hours and hours during the day or night, without encouraging strategy?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: serjent05 on October 28, 2022, 12:25:59 PM
I believe if the games a person plays is always simple games of "gamble/games of chance" without involving any strategy, then those games could become uninteresting especially if that person always loses.

Indeed people play games according to their preferences.  Any games of chance don't have any successful strategy so why think hard to create a strategy that won't be successful in the end?  There is also this gambling point where our favorite or preferred game becomes toxic to the point we lost interest and even cursed it.

Because what's captivating in playing a game like slots everyday of your life, for hours and hours during the day or night, without encouraging strategy?

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Pandu Geddon on October 28, 2022, 01:09:59 PM
Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2022, 05:41:40 PM
You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun.  :P

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end.  ::)

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one.  ;) (Example : Hacksaw Gaming)  8)
When we think about it makes sense to try to look for games with a low house edge so we can gamble for a little bit longer, but what it is the point of doing such a thing if we are not obtaining any fun? Gambling should always be done for entertainment purposes and if we have to pay a little bit more to obtain the fun we are looking for then so be it, in the end it does not matter if we spend a few more dollars as long as we still have our gambling under complete control.
Well, it will depend on which one will give pleasure to each gambler because they will have their favorite game. And for the amount of bets they will use will also depend on how much money they deposit into their account. If they always remember gambling is just for entertainment and fun, they will not treat gambling as a way to make money. They will only spend their time playing gambling; as soon as they get it, they will stop and leave it.
Well, I think something, whatever the game, whether it has a lot or a little risk, games of chance always point in the same direction, if you choose a game with little risk, the chances of losing in the long term are imminent, maybe Sometimes low risk games are won on many occasions but when very large bets are made I think things will balance out and obviously it will go in favor of the house, that detail can never be forgotten, whoever plays believing that they can beat the house Well, it's very bad, this is something that many players want to achieve and it's not very smart, at least I know that many see it that way, but the results will never be favorable for the player.
Gamblers who have often gambled will know whether they will choose a game with small or big risks and will see how much money they will use to place a bet. And if they want to play a little longer, maybe placing a small bet for each spin will be more valuable than placing a large bet right away because they can play and may have luck in a certain amount of time. And very often, we see that if people place large bets, they will only lose all their money in a short time if they are unlucky. But indeed, the temptation to get bigger wins will be there so many of them decide to use large amounts of betting money. That is why we must know how to manage the risks of playing gambling so we do not experience big losses.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: BitcoinPanther on October 28, 2022, 07:25:49 PM
Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

I think planning works well on gambling but creating strategy to win does not. ;D  It will only make us frustrated.  To think that we spend lots of time and didn't sleep that night preparing for the strategy and approach we can do just to increase our chance of winning but in the end it isn't effective at all.  I wonder how much load of stress is weighing on that player mind if all of his strategy planning does not work even a little in the game he played.


Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.


Well, experienced player should be respected and we must give weight to what they are saying but I don't think their opinion is the most accurate.  The can be relevant but of course their game strategy is different from us so there might be some variation.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Saint-loup on October 28, 2022, 08:36:11 PM
If anyone wants to learn how to play Craps, you can practice for fun without risking your own coins through BetPlay's casino, https://betplay.io/en/casino/play/1547/first-person-craps/fun

There's no requirement to log in, or to register for an account. You can just go to that link, and click/tap "play for fun", then it will take you to the table. The game is in "easy mode", and it highlights which numbers will give you a win, or a lose, depending where you place the bets.
Thank you for sharing this tip with us. It's nice to know that because unfortunately very few casinos allow to play in Fun mode to the First Person games from Evolution. So it's a good thing to see Betplay offering this feature to all people, even if they are not registered there. It's not so easy to understand all rules from craps because it's a game rarely available in european, asian and even south american casinos, so practicing it before gambling real money is a good advice IMO.
BTW do you understand why Seven pays less than Craps (4:1 vs 7:1) ?  ???


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 28, 2022, 09:04:39 PM
Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.
^Because there are some people who are too greedy thinking of profit and take advantage sometimes of the gambling casino.
These kinds of people are everywhere, instead of gambling for fun, they gamble to make money and live it for it and also for a living. I believed that there is no strategy in a game, just gamble and measure your luck and once it was not there, take a break and come back when you are ready again and possibly your luck will be followed.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Genemind on October 28, 2022, 10:03:29 PM
Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.
^Because there are some people who are too greedy thinking of profit and take advantage sometimes of the gambling casino.
These kinds of people are everywhere, instead of gambling for fun, they gamble to make money and live it for it and also for a living. I believed that there is no strategy in a game, just gamble and measure your luck and once it was not there, take a break and come back when you are ready again and possibly your luck will be followed.

I do agree, most of my wins playing casinos are when I'm not putting all my thoughts on the game and just enjoying it. The more you think of winning the more disappointed you are with the outcome. I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos. With that being said, it's more fun gambling if you enjoy playing the games you are familiar with, it might be against your real objective why you played, which is to gain profit, but it is less stressful if you have this kind of mindset.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Poker Player on October 29, 2022, 03:53:58 AM
I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on October 29, 2022, 12:36:56 PM
I believe if the games a person plays is always simple games of "gamble/games of chance" without involving any strategy, then those games could become uninteresting especially if that person always loses.

Indeed people play games according to their preferences.  Any games of chance don't have any successful strategy so why think hard to create a strategy that won't be successful in the end?  There is also this gambling point where our favorite or preferred game becomes toxic to the point we lost interest and even cursed it.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working. BUT Craps is a game you can play using different strategies, and there are MANY different strategies, https://www.youtube.com/c/ColorUp

I'll try some of them next week after Halloween break!

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Because what's captivating in playing a game like slots everyday of your life, for hours and hours during the day or night, without encouraging strategy?

Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.


Understandable, if you explain it that way.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mauser on October 29, 2022, 02:41:18 PM
Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

It's true every game on a casino has a house edge. That's how the casino makes money over time. Even poker a game which is only played against other gamblers has a fee that the casino collects for the infrastructure and services they provide for us to gamble. When playing blackjack we can influence the house edge with our strategy. The more optimal we play the lower the winning chances of the house. Unfortunately the best gambling strategy will still not make a save profit, there is anyways luck involved in the games. Blackjack is one of my favourite games as well and I managed to get some decent profits over the years. Having a optimal blackjack strategy together with a martingale approach is what worked best for me. If you are looking for games with a low house edge you can also play some dice and roulette, it's very easy to learn for new players and you can start with only betting on Black/Red or the 50% winning chance. The most important thing we need to focus on in the beginning is not to bet too large, if we face a losing streak the chances are high we could go broke. Better to start small and build a bankroll over time.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: serjent05 on October 29, 2022, 06:03:32 PM
I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dothebeats on October 29, 2022, 11:31:48 PM
I really wanted to learn blackjack but my brain is not capable of learning new things at all. Used to sit and watch live games and even watch tutorials but I couldn't get the necessary things to keep and always fail to remember what I should do and what I should not. So far dice is serving me a lot when it comes to enjoyment, but profits? Sports betting would be my go-to when I wanted to.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on October 30, 2022, 04:37:44 AM
I really wanted to learn blackjack but my brain is not capable of learning new things at all. Used to sit and watch live games and even watch tutorials but I couldn't get the necessary things to keep and always fail to remember what I should do and what I should not. So far dice is serving me a lot when it comes to enjoyment, but profits? Sports betting would be my go-to when I wanted to.
It is not as hard as it may seem, what you need to do is to learn by steps then once you learn this information you actually practice it by playing the game, and finally once you have mastered that knowledge then you can begin to learn a little bit more until you finally master the basic strategy.

For example what you should do if you have a hard 17 versus a soft 17? A hard 17 is very easy to remember as you just need to stand, but with a soft 17 you could double, stand or ask for another card, you could practice until you remember what to do, and once you do then you can move down and now try to remember what to do if you have 16, 15 and so on.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Saint-loup on October 30, 2022, 08:33:13 PM
Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

It's true every game on a casino has a house edge. That's how the casino makes money over time. Even poker a game which is only played against other gamblers has a fee that the casino collects for the infrastructure and services they provide for us to gamble. When playing blackjack we can influence the house edge with our strategy. The more optimal we play the lower the winning chances of the house. Unfortunately the best gambling strategy will still not make a save profit, there is anyways luck involved in the games. Blackjack is one of my favourite games as well and I managed to get some decent profits over the years. Having a optimal blackjack strategy together with a martingale approach is what worked best for me. If you are looking for games with a low house edge you can also play some dice and roulette, it's very easy to learn for new players and you can start with only betting on Black/Red or the 50% winning chance. The most important thing we need to focus on in the beginning is not to bet too large, if we face a losing streak the chances are high we could go broke. Better to start small and build a bankroll over time.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you, the roulette is usually not considered as a low house edge game. The house edge of the european roulette is 2.70% and the one of the american roulette is 5.26%. In this article from the Wizard of Odds you can find a comparison between the main casino games, and as you can see there are several games with a lower house edge. In addition roulette is slower than craps and two times slower than blackjack and baccarat according to the article.

Average hands per hour :
Baccarat   72   
Blackjack   70
Craps   48   
Roulette   38

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: boyptc on October 30, 2022, 09:46:11 PM
I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: kotajikikox on October 31, 2022, 03:24:26 AM
I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
and sometimes this leads to account banning , so for me better to stand from the table for a while when we already won good amount and consider returning in the next sessions ?

though I am not sure from others , but for me? winning is all about luck and decisions , so if we are to win high enough then best to lessen your activities .


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on October 31, 2022, 06:18:40 AM
Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

It's true every game on a casino has a house edge. That's how the casino makes money over time. Even poker a game which is only played against other gamblers has a fee that the casino collects for the infrastructure and services they provide for us to gamble. When playing blackjack we can influence the house edge with our strategy. The more optimal we play the lower the winning chances of the house. Unfortunately the best gambling strategy will still not make a save profit, there is anyways luck involved in the games. Blackjack is one of my favourite games as well and I managed to get some decent profits over the years. Having a optimal blackjack strategy together with a martingale approach is what worked best for me. If you are looking for games with a low house edge you can also play some dice and roulette, it's very easy to learn for new players and you can start with only betting on Black/Red or the 50% winning chance. The most important thing we need to focus on in the beginning is not to bet too large, if we face a losing streak the chances are high we could go broke. Better to start small and build a bankroll over time.


I believe the consistent winning gamblers would not call it simply as "luck". It is luck, but it's more complicated than merely calling it "luck". In learning Craps, I have learned that it's also about the skill of when to make bets larger on more favorable trends, and the timing. The Craps players call it "pressing". You press your bets if the trend is on your side.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: boyptc on October 31, 2022, 06:50:35 PM
I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
and sometimes this leads to account banning , so for me better to stand from the table for a while when we already won good amount and consider returning in the next sessions ?

though I am not sure from others , but for me? winning is all about luck and decisions , so if we are to win high enough then best to lessen your activities .
If the strategy is sketchy, there will really be a review for it and if the casino finds it against on their policies then there's the likely that player will be banned.

As we all know, luck has a big part to play for someone's win and that's always being observed.

This is really and many casinos will keep doing that. Some casinos do not care if you win or not, what do really care about is how to make money money and pay their staffs.
If they detected that a gambler I'll s using a particular strategy to make more money, if it is a mere casino they can ban the gambler to limit the way he take money from them.
It's a business so they have to focus on themselves and give themselves the advantage but, legit casinos will also give priority to those that are winning without any trouble.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 31, 2022, 10:24:57 PM
I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
This is really and many casinos will keep doing that. Some casinos do not care if you win or not, what do really care about is how to make money money and pay their staffs.
If they detected that a gambler I'll s using a particular strategy to make more money, if it is a mere casino they can ban the gambler to limit the way he take money from them.

this is why it is always good to play on top and reputable casinos where payment is not a problem. you can already find them in this forum where they can afford to pay huge winnings without delay and hassle. also, make sure your browse the ToS of the site. because that's where they will look at for possible violation of the player.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: worldofcoins on November 02, 2022, 12:54:15 PM
I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on November 03, 2022, 06:37:37 AM
I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
This is really and many casinos will keep doing that. Some casinos do not care if you win or not, what do really care about is how to make money money and pay their staffs.
If they detected that a gambler I'll s using a particular strategy to make more money, if it is a mere casino they can ban the gambler to limit the way he take money from them.
Majority of the casino that we are seeing today as a scan casino or that is giving their customers who patronize them a very big problem in terms of payment is does casino that does not have a licence there are those ones that have been treating people anyhow and only being interested of paying their workers or have the money to pay their workers when issues comes to the site when contact them it will take some days or some weeks before they will respond to it so those kind of consumer platforms supposed to be avoided because of safety
Of course, I do not exclude that now even Ai is used by large online casinos to adjust algorithms in order to prevent professional players from constantly winning. 

Perhaps even this has already been invented and implemented.  However, if the casino has a provable fairness mechanism, then a game such as dice must of course be determined by a randomness algorithm.  And in this case, any strategy will still fail from a certain roll of the dice.  And the period of winnings will simply become a thing of the past, but will remain in your memories as incredible luck. 
It will be so even if you lose everything that you won after the streak of luck. :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on November 06, 2022, 03:43:00 AM
I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dezoel on November 07, 2022, 05:19:39 PM
I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.
This is why a lot of casinos now are hiring game providers to supply with different titles so that all players have nothing to say on them but each type of player do always has a game that fit for them. Blackjack is one of those games who have a low house edge and it was actually favoured by lots of people because of this but maybe its true that craps are not that popular as blackjack because many sites that I visit doesn't have this game and it was rarely being talked about anywhere.

I didn't even know what this game look like and how it is being played but if only my casino introduce this earlier when I am still active, I may get curious on trying it and start liking it later on.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 08, 2022, 11:40:14 PM
Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

I think planning works well on gambling but creating strategy to win does not. ;D  It will only make us frustrated.  To think that we spend lots of time and didn't sleep that night preparing for the strategy and approach we can do just to increase our chance of winning but in the end it isn't effective at all.  I wonder how much load of stress is weighing on that player mind if all of his strategy planning does not work even a little in the game he played.


Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.


Well, experienced player should be respected and we must give weight to what they are saying but I don't think their opinion is the most accurate.  The can be relevant but of course their game strategy is different from us so there might be some variation.

Yes, it is something that could not go against the best of each person, each person has experienced the game in different ways and if it has worked for them, and if they give advice, at least I am someone who takes that learning and applies it, Of course, as I said before, I respect every way of betting, I'm not very good at doing the martingale thing, but I know that sometimes the big players apply it, of course they apply it because they have the monetary capacity to do it, but in my case my abilities They are very limited and I cannot take one of those risks, I prefer to go slowly but surely, I am not looking for big profits either, because the main thing is fun.


Yes it is truth you are saying because it is easy for someone to lose everything he has made for Amelie and gambling or in casino game so anyone who is trying to bet or go into gambling supposed to watch very well and know the implication of what is going to because sometimes some people do that whenever they lose money in gambling so I think this  your advice is acceptable

I have always had a saying, if you play in a casino, first of all it should be to have fun and not to seek to have 1000% profitability as some players do, to play in a casino you should have a lot of restraint, because it is not something so easy to do if we want to earn money quickly and easily because there will always be a lot of pressure, you do not want to lose money, but it is incredible, when something is not sought, and you want it to happen.

When a person decides to put a lot of money at stake, it must be clear that they can lose everything, that is something that cannot be denied, however when we make other types of very risky plays if we have good luck, (something that happens very few times) because it is used, but what must be done is to assume a loss.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ChiNgadOr on November 08, 2022, 11:48:22 PM
I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
This can be done by casinos and they will not always want us to keep winning because that might comes as a lose to them.
There are many persons who are always looking for a better casinos a new casinos where they can play bets that is why we just need to be at alert to to go and play on a wrong site.
If casino noticed that you do have consistent winnings they can look for a way to ban your account or reduce the amount you can gamble with.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: goldkingcoiner on November 09, 2022, 12:00:32 AM

I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Honestly I prefer Blackjack. Not because I have some strategy or even because it somehow has a lower house edge but just because its a simpler game. I find that simpler games are just more appealing when betting. I do not want to have to think of strategies or plan my moves in advance or anything because when it comes down to it, all games have house edge otherwise the casinos would not be making money. Try as hard as you like but the most you can do with strategies is maybe lower the probability of you losing money by a bit. Id rather have fun than stress myself out with algorithms and strategies.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Awaklara on November 09, 2022, 12:53:22 AM
This can be done by casinos and they will not always want us to keep winning because that might comes as a lose to them.
There are many persons who are always looking for a better casinos a new casinos where they can play bets that is why we just need to be at alert to to go and play on a wrong site.
If casino noticed that you do have consistent winnings they can look for a way to ban your account or reduce the amount you can gamble with.
Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Plaguedeath on November 09, 2022, 08:46:53 AM
Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.
The gambler should ask on the live support about the reason why the account got limited or ban, they shouldn't create multiple accounts since it's against their rules. Let's say the gambler has found a way to win in a specific game, actually he can just gamble on the other site since the other site must have the same provider or game. It doesn't make sense why he force to gamble on that's site.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 09, 2022, 01:49:28 PM
Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.
^Because there are some people who are too greedy thinking of profit and take advantage sometimes of the gambling casino.
These kinds of people are everywhere, instead of gambling for fun, they gamble to make money and live it for it and also for a living. I believed that there is no strategy in a game, just gamble and measure your luck and once it was not there, take a break and come back when you are ready again and possibly your luck will be followed.

I do agree, most of my wins playing casinos are when I'm not putting all my thoughts on the game and just enjoying it. The more you think of winning the more disappointed you are with the outcome. I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos. With that being said, it's more fun gambling if you enjoy playing the games you are familiar with, it might be against your real objective why you played, which is to gain profit, but it is less stressful if you have this kind of mindset.

Well, how I see these things is when I say that a player is passing the level and is maturing many things, and that is really what is sought in a casino, fun, what happens is that many confuse fun with greed, I used to When I was starting in the casinos, I used to play to win, but when the failure rate was higher than the win rate, I managed to understand what the goal of all this really was, and sometimes those who blame the addiction are the casinos and not It is like this, the guilty of all this will always be the players, because it is assumed that those who enter a casino are of legal age and responsible for their actions.

This can be done by casinos and they will not always want us to keep winning because that might comes as a lose to them.
There are many persons who are always looking for a better casinos a new casinos where they can play bets that is why we just need to be at alert to to go and play on a wrong site.
If casino noticed that you do have consistent winnings they can look for a way to ban your account or reduce the amount you can gamble with.
Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.

I have seen in a thread of a very good casino, something that I did not like very much, I operate at the same time or I understand, and it is limited to number per IP, this means that if we have several people who have different accounts in a casino but under the same public IP they will be restricted, and I think it is due to the same case of multiple accounts, the system can interpret it as multiple accounts, this is something that I do not agree with, because a casino should not do something like that, it is as if an exchange would do the same, if they do things like that, it is obvious that a player who likes a casino very much will look for other casino options, nobody likes to deal with problems.

This is like having bots and limiting or banning an account for it, if a bot makes the person lose faster it is like more beneficial for a casino, then there are certain things that sometimes the directives decide in a casino that are not adequate, and there is a lot of competition, they should not do things like that.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on November 10, 2022, 06:36:55 AM
Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.
The gambler should ask on the live support about the reason why the account got limited or ban, they shouldn't create multiple accounts since it's against their rules. Let's say the gambler has found a way to win in a specific game, actually he can just gamble on the other site since the other site must have the same provider or game. It doesn't make sense why he force to gamble on that's site.
Of course, you can ask the support service about the reasons for blocking an account, but it is far from always possible to get a correct answer to such a question.  I think that the likelihood of a ban increases when casino administrators see that some player wins more often than others.  But this is in principle possible if this player has a streak of luck or he is a very experienced player. 
But the casino always proceeds from the obvious interest of getting as much money as possible and giving as little money as possible for winnings.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nakamura12 on November 10, 2022, 07:01:00 AM
I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on November 10, 2022, 09:35:58 PM
I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.

Employees are just employees and in casinos and game platforms they are under intensive scrutiny. Just imagine that you had a CCTV pointing at you when you work, clients that are trying to scam from time to time, a clear set of instructions to play, very clear directives and, being honest, strong penalties if you do not follow the orders. It is more like being in an army if you think of it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nakamura12 on November 11, 2022, 03:25:46 AM
I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.

Employees are just employees and in casinos and game platforms they are under intensive scrutiny. Just imagine that you had a CCTV pointing at you when you work, clients that are trying to scam from time to time, a clear set of instructions to play, very clear directives and, being honest, strong penalties if you do not follow the orders. It is more like being in an army if you think of it.
I don't know if you get my point about that one which I explained that the gamblers are like employees in the casino where the work needed to be done for the casino to earn is that the gamblers will do it for the owner. I know it sounds too complicated if you ask me and yes I know that casinos have employees which is the one who take care of the website and the customer support. What I was trying to explain is that we gamblers are the one who make money for the employees of the casino and especially the onwer which will earn much more money than the employees. I do understand your point, I really do and I agree with it (just sharing my point of view or my opinion).


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on November 13, 2022, 03:49:51 AM

I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Honestly I prefer Blackjack. Not because I have some strategy or even because it somehow has a lower house edge but just because its a simpler game. I find that simpler games are just more appealing when betting. I do not want to have to think of strategies or plan my moves in advance or anything because when it comes down to it, all games have house edge otherwise the casinos would not be making money. Try as hard as you like but the most you can do with strategies is maybe lower the probability of you losing money by a bit. Id rather have fun than stress myself out with algorithms and strategies.
As long as you get your fun that is all what matters, blackjack is a very special game because it can be played by all kind of audiences, just as you are playing it without any intention of following any strategy, there are others that not only use the basic strategy but which also use card counting.

Both players are getting their fun out of the game but they are doing it in a completely different manner, something which is not possible in other games like slots, in which there is no really any strategy you can follow which can reduce the house edge.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Yatsan on November 13, 2022, 11:57:24 AM

I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Honestly I prefer Blackjack. Not because I have some strategy or even because it somehow has a lower house edge but just because its a simpler game. I find that simpler games are just more appealing when betting. I do not want to have to think of strategies or plan my moves in advance or anything because when it comes down to it, all games have house edge otherwise the casinos would not be making money. Try as hard as you like but the most you can do with strategies is maybe lower the probability of you losing money by a bit. Id rather have fun than stress myself out with algorithms and strategies.
As long as you get your fun that is all what matters, blackjack is a very special game because it can be played by all kind of audiences, just as you are playing it without any intention of following any strategy, there are others that not only use the basic strategy but which also use card counting.

Both players are getting their fun out of the game but they are doing it in a completely different manner, something which is not possible in other games like slots, in which there is no really any strategy you can follow which can reduce the house edge.
But card counting is a strategy. There are others such as bluffing your opponent and luring your opponent with the possible cards on your deck but is applicable with other card games. Baccarat is more on between the banker and player alone,I'm not sure but bunker I think can use bluffing to get the win.
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on November 16, 2022, 06:35:18 AM

But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: samuraijin on November 16, 2022, 06:50:06 AM

But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)


The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 16, 2022, 01:51:39 PM
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)
The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...
But we can't know when luck will come to us. Maybe this instinct can be useful for those who play skill-based gambling games because by having experience playing in previous games, we will get used to knowing if something went wrong so we can try other methods. And sometimes, luck can appear suddenly after we try to use other methods because we have changed our game flow. But not all gamblers will feel it and only those experienced might be able to feel it and stay in the game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on November 16, 2022, 09:17:23 PM
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)
The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...
But we can't know when luck will come to us. Maybe this instinct can be useful for those who play skill-based gambling games because by having experience playing in previous games, we will get used to knowing if something went wrong so we can try other methods. And sometimes, luck can appear suddenly after we try to use other methods because we have changed our game flow. But not all gamblers will feel it and only those experienced might be able to feel it and stay in the game.

I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: boyptc on November 16, 2022, 11:14:02 PM
I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.
Just keep on playing poker.

And you'll be in different situations that you'll apply and learn as you continue to play the game. There will be scenarios where you will understand what others are talking about like bluffing or simply folding.

The experience of yours will speak to you on how you will have to get on with those opponents on the table that are unpredictable with their moves.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: kotajikikox on November 17, 2022, 01:02:10 AM
I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.
Just keep on playing poker.

And you'll be in different situations that you'll apply and learn as you continue to play the game. There will be scenarios where you will understand what others are talking about like bluffing or simply folding.

The experience of yours will speak to you on how you will have to get on with those opponents on the table that are unpredictable with their moves.
Poker is one of the most popular and played , even young people love this game  . there are several games that almost same concept as Poker that played  all over the world specially in asia so i think he will get use to the game eventually .

Just continue trying and understanding the game , also if he happen to play in real table then it would be much less risk if he have complete knowledge in future.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: btc78 on November 17, 2022, 03:00:59 AM
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)
The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...
But we can't know when luck will come to us. Maybe this instinct can be useful for those who play skill-based gambling games because by having experience playing in previous games, we will get used to knowing if something went wrong so we can try other methods. And sometimes, luck can appear suddenly after we try to use other methods because we have changed our game flow. But not all gamblers will feel it and only those experienced might be able to feel it and stay in the game.
Luck will never let us know when to be on our side this is why once you felt like it is on you, better use this chances to gather how much you can before it slips away so by then you can stand the table and leave without any looking back.

We as gamblers had experienced this all and I myself got to leave the gambling place once I won good amount and don't wanna maximized my chances because at any moment this will be gone.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 17, 2022, 04:21:08 AM
I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.
Well, that requires a lot of concentration, long before I discovered slots, apart from playing Craps, I had dedicated a lot to Black Jack, because it seemed very interesting to me, and besides, I also saw card counting as possible, that is something that called me attention and because mathematics is much easier for me, I took advantage of certain techniques, this is something that I always saw, also roulette, but in the Black Jack casino to achieve a good improvement the player is required to apply any technique or strategy requires a lot of concentration, perhaps in an online casino it can be achieved, 'but it is really difficult to do it in a physical one, I tried a lot and I couldn't.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Warkop on November 17, 2022, 06:58:25 AM
I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.
Just keep on playing poker.

And you'll be in different situations that you'll apply and learn as you continue to play the game. There will be scenarios where you will understand what others are talking about like bluffing or simply folding.

The experience of yours will speak to you on how you will have to get on with those opponents on the table that are unpredictable with their moves.

This can be a lesson that the bluffing method sometimes makes us trapped, from what we do with our opponents, sometimes that using bluffing when playing poker, we can see the contents of the cards that our opponents have, but there are also opponents vice versa, who follow the rhythm of our game, even though it is an inducement so that we bluff it and in the end we are already in the trap of our opponent, sometimes a method like this is very risky for us, because what will the opponent know later that it is just a bluff that we usually use in playing poker ..


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 17, 2022, 07:09:56 AM
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)
The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...
But we can't know when luck will come to us. Maybe this instinct can be useful for those who play skill-based gambling games because by having experience playing in previous games, we will get used to knowing if something went wrong so we can try other methods. And sometimes, luck can appear suddenly after we try to use other methods because we have changed our game flow. But not all gamblers will feel it and only those experienced might be able to feel it and stay in the game.

I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.
Maybe continuing to hone one's skills in playing gambling will help him to be able to know or determine when to play and bet. Surely it will also take some time before we can get the hang of it but it's well worth it, especially if we want to get the hang of it. With a lot of practice and study, I think that one day we will have this ability so that we will no longer have problems if we want to play poker or blackjack gambling.

But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)
The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...
But we can't know when luck will come to us. Maybe this instinct can be useful for those who play skill-based gambling games because by having experience playing in previous games, we will get used to knowing if something went wrong so we can try other methods. And sometimes, luck can appear suddenly after we try to use other methods because we have changed our game flow. But not all gamblers will feel it and only those experienced might be able to feel it and stay in the game.
Luck will never let us know when to be on our side this is why once you felt like it is on you, better use this chances to gather how much you can before it slips away so by then you can stand the table and leave without any looking back.

We as gamblers had experienced this all and I myself got to leave the gambling place once I won good amount and don't wanna maximized my chances because at any moment this will be gone.
We've been through that many times and I think some of us can leave the gambling establishment after getting a few wins. There are even those who are experts at controlling their emotions after getting a big win by not continuing the game because they know it will not be good for them if they continue playing it.

They prefer to stop and enjoy their winnings rather than risk their winnings by continuing to play. The result may not be as much as what they have because there is no guarantee that he can win more.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: boyptc on November 17, 2022, 07:24:28 PM
Just keep on playing poker.

And you'll be in different situations that you'll apply and learn as you continue to play the game. There will be scenarios where you will understand what others are talking about like bluffing or simply folding.

The experience of yours will speak to you on how you will have to get on with those opponents on the table that are unpredictable with their moves.
Poker is one of the most popular and played , even young people love this game  . there are several games that almost same concept as Poker that played  all over the world specially in asia so i think he will get use to the game eventually .

Just continue trying and understanding the game , also if he happen to play in real table then it would be much less risk if he have complete knowledge in future.
I wouldn't much less risk, the risk is the same but because of his experience and understanding of the game. That will make him aware of those risks.

This can be a lesson that the bluffing method sometimes makes us trapped, from what we do with our opponents, sometimes that using bluffing when playing poker, we can see the contents of the cards that our opponents have, but there are also opponents vice versa, who follow the rhythm of our game, even though it is an inducement so that we bluff it and in the end we are already in the trap of our opponent, sometimes a method like this is very risky for us, because what will the opponent know later that it is just a bluff that we usually use in playing poker ..
It's part of being a good poker player and you will know when it must be done and when it must not be done. Especially, when you're in front of the table and you see the reaction of those opponents.

Sometimes, you just can't because they show no reaction and just plainly poker faces.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on November 17, 2022, 09:39:18 PM
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs :)
The special skills that must be questioned in gambling whether they want to have much money or not, it will not affect when they are at the table, reading the opponent's mind is not used to play gambling, only one's instinct when playing it will appear by itself, and assisted by luck when playing gambling, no matter how much experience we have in gambling, when defeat comes our way, luck is not on our side, unlike cheating at the dealer or opponent, but it is very rare to find cases like that, but here luck and instinct are useful for players, because instinct and luck put together will be an extraordinary thing in playing gambling, of course everyone experiences that...
But we can't know when luck will come to us. Maybe this instinct can be useful for those who play skill-based gambling games because by having experience playing in previous games, we will get used to knowing if something went wrong so we can try other methods. And sometimes, luck can appear suddenly after we try to use other methods because we have changed our game flow. But not all gamblers will feel it and only those experienced might be able to feel it and stay in the game.
Luck will never let us know when to be on our side this is why once you felt like it is on you, better use this chances to gather how much you can before it slips away so by then you can stand the table and leave without any looking back.

We as gamblers had experienced this all and I myself got to leave the gambling place once I won good amount and don't wanna maximized my chances because at any moment this will be gone.

I want to have that control sometimes I also feel like I want to play because I know I'm going to win and I win, for me it's not much, and it's not really that much, but a win lifts my spirits because it's very little because it's better than losing, when I listen to my instinct I always win, but when I play something else that is very subject to good luck like the slots that I have tried to play since there are many users in the forum who recommend many, and they like I don't know how they do it to win there, I try and try and what I achieve is losing my money, I don't know how to play, sometimes I would like to see techniques, but there is not one that is decisive in winning.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Viscore on November 21, 2022, 06:31:50 PM
I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.
That’s the reality. Gamblers are only tools to make the casinos more profitable, and since it’s a kind of business, then it will always make sure that the house will always have the advantage and will always win. The reason why we need to gamble only for fun, and even plebs should start enjoying gambling too.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: darkangel11 on November 21, 2022, 08:30:37 PM
I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.
Just keep on playing poker.

And you'll be in different situations that you'll apply and learn as you continue to play the game. There will be scenarios where you will understand what others are talking about like bluffing or simply folding.

The experience of yours will speak to you on how you will have to get on with those opponents on the table that are unpredictable with their moves.

Most opponents in online poker are unpredictable. You have to feel them out by playing with them to know that they'll fold fast if you're aggressive or not. Unfortunately at low stake tables people change so often that before you get a hold of who's who they leave and you have to start from scratch. Only tournaments or high stake games offer somewhat stable tables but you're going to play against pros and possibly duos that play together against you. Poker is tricky.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on November 23, 2022, 07:04:18 AM
I have also thought that, if someone can have that ability to determine when to play and bet a lot it would be very good, I think that a person who has experience in poker can do it, or those who like black jack a lot too As much as I play, I feel that I am very excited to learn, I am actively practicing poker, but it is very complicated because there are many scenarios that are sometimes difficult to determine, this is taken in context to what many know with an anchored learning that is capable of determining or trying to predict a movement, but for me that is reaching a guru or master level.
Just keep on playing poker.

And you'll be in different situations that you'll apply and learn as you continue to play the game. There will be scenarios where you will understand what others are talking about like bluffing or simply folding.

The experience of yours will speak to you on how you will have to get on with those opponents on the table that are unpredictable with their moves.

Most opponents in online poker are unpredictable. You have to feel them out by playing with them to know that they'll fold fast if you're aggressive or not. Unfortunately at low stake tables people change so often that before you get a hold of who's who they leave and you have to start from scratch. Only tournaments or high stake games offer somewhat stable tables but you're going to play against pros and possibly duos that play together against you. Poker is tricky.
I would even say that poker itself is not just a complicated thing, but in general the game is not for the plebs. 
Because when playing poker in the company of friends with small stakes, it's just a pleasant pastime.  But when the stakes are high and the game is already at the level of professionals, this is a completely different matter.  Psychology, a strong character are important here, it is important to hide emotions and other tricks.  Of course the plebs also play poker.  But I would say that this is not real poker. 
In order to understand this, you can simply watch the next broadcast of a poker tournament with the professionals of this game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nakamura12 on November 23, 2022, 04:27:12 PM
That’s the reality. Gamblers are only tools to make the casinos more profitable, and since it’s a kind of business, then it will always make sure that the house will always have the advantage and will always win. The reason why we need to gamble only for fun, and even plebs should start enjoying gambling too.
That's my point to be exact which gamblers are the one who bring profit to the casino owners but the casino's purpose is not about earning profit only but to bring thrill, excitement, fun and many more. I am sure you know that gamblers are gambling not because of they want to earn money or profit in gambling. Even me could say that it's not just about for a chance to win huge amount of money but to have fun if it's in my case but for other people who are gambling is another reason such as thrill, excitement and more.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on November 23, 2022, 07:55:39 PM
That’s the reality. Gamblers are only tools to make the casinos more profitable, and since it’s a kind of business, then it will always make sure that the house will always have the advantage and will always win. The reason why we need to gamble only for fun, and even plebs should start enjoying gambling too.
That's my point to be exact which gamblers are the one who bring profit to the casino owners but the casino's purpose is not about earning profit only but to bring thrill, excitement, fun and many more. I am sure you know that gamblers are gambling not because of they want to earn money or profit in gambling. Even me could say that it's not just about for a chance to win huge amount of money but to have fun if it's in my case but for other people who are gambling is another reason such as thrill, excitement and more.

Well this is the end of the casinos, where there were no such players simply the casinos were failed businesses, so I think that the business model will always go in a favorable direction to everything that always give more profits than losses for those who are business owners ..

The games that common people must take advantage of are sports bets, there is no other, because the responsibility falls on the player who is putting their capital and money at risk.

Every plaguer knows that a casino will be with an advantage of the house, that is something that cannot change, apart they have to know they have many things to consider, such as the factorr luck and if it is on our side or not.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nakamura12 on November 23, 2022, 08:17:19 PM
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Well this is the end of the casinos, where there were no such players simply the casinos were failed businesses, so I think that the business model will always go in a favorable direction to everything that always give more profits than losses for those who are business owners ..

The games that common people must take advantage of are sports bets, there is no other, because the responsibility falls on the player who is putting their capital and money at risk.

Every plaguer knows that a casino will be with an advantage of the house, that is something that cannot change, apart they have to know they have many things to consider, such as the factorr luck and if it is on our side or not.

That's what gambling means which is to take risk for your own funds for a chance to win double, triple or even x10 the amount of what you bet. For those people who are gambling as I have said to take risk and other reasons I have explained before which is to have fun at the same time where business owners will take advantage of. For that to happen is to create a platform for people like that to use and of course, business owners would also keep a decent amount of funds if ever someone won huge amount so that they have funds to pay for it. Most business owners have their own funds or in some cases run a fund raising campaign which the money will be used as their bankroll for the platform either a casino or a sportsbook.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on November 24, 2022, 04:23:23 PM
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Well this is the end of the casinos, where there were no such players simply the casinos were failed businesses, so I think that the business model will always go in a favorable direction to everything that always give more profits than losses for those who are business owners ..

The games that common people must take advantage of are sports bets, there is no other, because the responsibility falls on the player who is putting their capital and money at risk.

Every plaguer knows that a casino will be with an advantage of the house, that is something that cannot change, apart they have to know they have many things to consider, such as the factorr luck and if it is on our side or not.

That's what gambling means which is to take risk for your own funds for a chance to win double, triple or even x10 the amount of what you bet. For those people who are gambling as I have said to take risk and other reasons I have explained before which is to have fun at the same time where business owners will take advantage of. For that to happen is to create a platform for people like that to use and of course, business owners would also keep a decent amount of funds if ever someone won huge amount so that they have funds to pay for it. Most business owners have their own funds or in some cases run a fund raising campaign which the money will be used as their bankroll for the platform either a casino or a sportsbook.

I think that this is where everything that is the advantage of the casino is born, I also think that we as players should play with the demo versions if we do not want to lose the money that we do not want to lose, as a player I always do that, but I can not always avoid playing with real money, because adrenaline is something stronger, but I think that we should be better or more intelligent players, so I think that for casinos we should handle things more for reason than for what we feel at that moment , things in casinos must always be managed thinking of the money that we will lose and not with the money that we will win.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nakamura12 on November 24, 2022, 06:17:05 PM

You cant really find up those things on todays time which funding up for some having capital is impossible.People cant just be trust up nowadays where frauds and scams are really that rampant which means that
you would definitely not able to find those people or on the community when you do ask for some funding even if you do tend to share up huge percentage in regarding or part of the revenue.
Gambling business is really that profitable and just because of those people or gamblers who do really keep on believing and pushing through that they could really win big.
Someone should really be minding about having the good control when it comes into their gambling activity so that you wont really be that ending up
on getting fucked up because you have already lost big and getting addicted on the end.Play for leisure and not for income or earning that kind of motive.
It's because of the ICO trend before where many people got scammed because of a scammer hide behind an ICO which cause the other scammers also start an ICO until you can't find a legit ICO or same project at this time. In order to have it is to be a legit casino first before releasing their own token or coins for gamblers to buy where the funds that they received from selling their tokens or coins will be use to add more of their bankroll or their profit. So I would say that you can still find gambling sites like that but not the same as before.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on November 30, 2022, 10:11:05 AM
I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.???  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) ;D). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on November 30, 2022, 05:57:33 PM
I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: virasisog on November 30, 2022, 06:09:04 PM
I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may result in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and come back on the other day.


Based on my experience, there's no winning algorithm on these games. All the results are random and always unpredictable.
No matter how we apply a pattern or strategy, it won't be effective all the time.
Have tried it with blackjack before, I tried using a certain pattern, and I was glad that the strategy worked but I lost later on meaning, putting any pattern won't always work in the long run.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on December 01, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may result in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and come back on the other day.


Based on my experience, there's no winning algorithm on these games. All the results are random and always unpredictable.
No matter how we apply a pattern or strategy, it won't be effective all the time.
Have tried it with blackjack before, I tried using a certain pattern, and I was glad that the strategy worked but I lost later on meaning, putting any pattern won't always work in the long run.

But if this works like this, then this thread would not make sense, because everything they say would be lies, so does that mean that there is no strategy that makes us win? So I don't see that we can learn, I have seen many suggestions on how to play and they have helped me.

The thread has opinions that I consider are not bad, nor are they written to get by or to meet a requirement, some are very sincere and have shared their stories of how they have won and I see that casinos can apply tactics to them To win, I don't see that they are so closed in having to apply things so that the player can have some advantage.




Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on December 02, 2022, 10:16:23 PM
I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.


Some of the casinos I am sure are really sophisticated in detecting unusually successful players that seem to be just too lucky. However there is also a common sense approach for others. If you think of it, you would expect 99% of your clients to loose systematically, so anyone who happens to have good luck will immediately be highlighted without much need to search.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 02, 2022, 11:36:42 PM
I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.???  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) ;D). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!
There's always that boundary considering about finances which it cant really be avoided that all of those differences would really be noted out which is really in fact the reality but in speaking about boundary

in terms of winning chance when it comes or in touching up gambling then there's indeed no difference when it comes to that.Chances or odds would be the same, doesnt matter if you do bet $10 or $10000 or more

it would really still boils down on the same percentage or chance which you had said that there's no boundary when it comes to this manner.
Everything or everyone does have that equal random chance into their gambling activity.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 03, 2022, 04:33:58 PM
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
There is no code and algorithm for every strategy because the casino will hold back the code and algorithm we use so we can't win. But if you can win, it's because your luck came at the right time and helped you. And be careful if you have won using that strategy because that strategy might not work to be used again so we have to change the strategy and look for a suitable strategy. And I agree with stopping playing after winning a lot of money.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hamphser on December 03, 2022, 06:59:21 PM
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
There is no code and algorithm for every strategy because the casino will hold back the code and algorithm we use so we can't win. But if you can win, it's because your luck came at the right time and helped you. And be careful if you have won using that strategy because that strategy might not work to be used again so we have to change the strategy and look for a suitable strategy. And I agree with stopping playing after winning a lot of money.
They are businesses and there's no way that they would really be allowing for players to take advantage and make out money on constant because it would really be truly a disaster on this case.

They cant really just allow on having that way because they arent making a charity but rather they are trying to build a business which means they do really have the upperhand.They cant really just make people
milk out funds into their platform because it would really be ending up on bankrupt.In speaking about having funds whether you are rich or poor then just like the rest been saying that odds are just the same.
There is no boundary in between these things because winning and losing would really be totally just the same.It is really just a wrong mindset that it could really make out some different situations
considering that it does have different status.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Dunamisx on December 03, 2022, 08:02:35 PM
There's no actually any specifications for plebs to choose a different casinos or having a particular type for their category since either being a pleb or not you can gamble and win, loose, as long as the winning is not a determination weather you're a pleb or not, every gambler is placed with thesame opportunity each other person has to either win or loose a bet, what makes the difference is the amount we stake on our respective bets and winning is not a casino barrier, you determine your winning by your fate through how you could predict games in gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: roslinpl on December 03, 2022, 08:14:11 PM
Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 04, 2022, 02:18:26 AM
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
There is no code and algorithm for every strategy because the casino will hold back the code and algorithm we use so we can't win. But if you can win, it's because your luck came at the right time and helped you. And be careful if you have won using that strategy because that strategy might not work to be used again so we have to change the strategy and look for a suitable strategy. And I agree with stopping playing after winning a lot of money.
They are businesses and there's no way that they would really be allowing for players to take advantage and make out money on constant because it would really be truly a disaster on this case.

They cant really just allow on having that way because they arent making a charity but rather they are trying to build a business which means they do really have the upperhand.They cant really just make people
milk out funds into their platform because it would really be ending up on bankrupt.In speaking about having funds whether you are rich or poor then just like the rest been saying that odds are just the same.
There is no boundary in between these things because winning and losing would really be totally just the same.It is really just a wrong mindset that it could really make out some different situations
considering that it does have different status.
If there is a player who can benefit, it is because that player was in the right place at the right time that they could get one. But most of them will lose and some even lose in a row because they need to realize that today is not their lucky day.

Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lienfaye on December 04, 2022, 04:38:28 AM
Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.
It's really important to limit ourselves when playing, only use what you can afford to lose. Hence even if you didn't win, it's easy to accept it since you're prepared for the worse to happen and that is by losing your money. However, many of us forget this simple rule when playing and exceeding their limit for trying to recover the losses which is not right.

I'm just an average gambler too and aware of how risky gambling is and the edge of the house. Thus, I often play a skill based game wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win. Anyway we have different preference and it depends on us what games we most enjoy when we gamble.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 05, 2022, 09:23:21 AM
Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.
It's really important to limit ourselves when playing, only use what you can afford to lose. Hence even if you didn't win, it's easy to accept it since you're prepared for the worse to happen and that is by losing your money. However, many of us forget this simple rule when playing and exceeding their limit for trying to recover the losses which is not right.

I'm just an average gambler too and aware of how risky gambling is and the edge of the house. Thus, I often play a skill based game wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win. Anyway we have different preference and it depends on us what games we most enjoy when we gamble.
Of course, limiting ourselves when playing means avoiding very big losses because that has happened to many people and we don't want to experience something like that. These are the basic rules of gambling but unfortunately, few can consistently stay on track while others suffer huge losses.

Playing gambling will have risks, whether it's big or small risk. And as long as we are not ready to risk losing, we will regret it. But that won't make us really control it, even though some people can do it. I rarely play skill-based gambling games, especially card games, because I know that in addition to skill, we must also have enough experience to beat our opponents.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on December 05, 2022, 11:30:37 PM
Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on December 07, 2022, 07:29:45 AM
Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.
I will even say more if someone does not know.  99% of those people who are trying to make money on the exchanges, after some time of active trading, understand that nothing can be earned, and trading is at a loss. 
Of course, trading requires experience and a specific mind and character.  So it’s really much easier and much more interesting to never get involved in trading on stock exchanges at all, but simply to play in online casinos.  In a casino, at least sometimes you win, and this is joy and pleasure.  For example, I enjoy playing with small stakes.  And now I always treat losses, also, of course, small ones, just as payment for the pleasure of playing. :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on December 07, 2022, 08:33:39 AM
I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.???  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) ;D). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!

Yeah, all casinos need two types of players, the "plebs" if you want to call them that way and the "big shots". The first ones will be on the retail end, little bonus, not much attention from the site, etc...  while the big spenders will receive all the attention and get plenty of freebies. But there is not much difference other than the stakes in terms of the games being played I would say,


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on December 07, 2022, 08:39:00 AM
Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.
It's really important to limit ourselves when playing, only use what you can afford to lose. Hence even if you didn't win, it's easy to accept it since you're prepared for the worse to happen and that is by losing your money. However, many of us forget this simple rule when playing and exceeding their limit for trying to recover the losses which is not right.

I'm just an average gambler too and aware of how risky gambling is and the edge of the house. Thus, I often play a skill based game wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win. Anyway we have different preference and it depends on us what games we most enjoy when we gamble.
Deep down most gamblers already know this information and they try their best to respect the limits they have imposed to themselves during a particular session, however even it it may seem easy some people find very hard to keep themselves within those limits.

And that is when you can encounter huge problems, because if you realize that you have lost more than what you wanted then it is easy to try to rise your bet to quickly recover what you have lost, but if you happen to lose that bet as well then you will find yourself losing so much money that it will be almost impossible to accept what happened to you.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: rendravolt on December 07, 2022, 10:33:43 AM
Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.
I will even say more if someone does not know.  99% of those people who are trying to make money on the exchanges, after some time of active trading, understand that nothing can be earned, and trading is at a loss. 
Of course, trading requires experience and a specific mind and character.  So it’s really much easier and much more interesting to never get involved in trading on stock exchanges at all, but simply to play in online casinos.  In a casino, at least sometimes you win, and this is joy and pleasure.  For example, I enjoy playing with small stakes.  And now I always treat losses, also, of course, small ones, just as payment for the pleasure of playing. :)
Wise thinking, it is undeniable that most people will feel annoyed because they experience too many losses in the stock exchange if it is not accompanied by a strong mentality and adequate experience. Sometimes a good way to get rid of the frustration is to play in the casino, but it should be noted this is just for stress relief and there is no need to make big bets. So I do this very often regardless of winning or losing it's all as entertainment for the mind.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Peanutswar on December 07, 2022, 03:38:10 PM
Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.
I will even say more if someone does not know.  99% of those people who are trying to make money on the exchanges, after some time of active trading, understand that nothing can be earned, and trading is at a loss. 
Of course, trading requires experience and a specific mind and character.  So it’s really much easier and much more interesting to never get involved in trading on stock exchanges at all, but simply to play in online casinos.  In a casino, at least sometimes you win, and this is joy and pleasure.  For example, I enjoy playing with small stakes.  And now I always treat losses, also, of course, small ones, just as payment for the pleasure of playing. :)
Wise thinking, it is undeniable that most people will feel annoyed because they experience too many losses in the stock exchange if it is not accompanied by a strong mentality and adequate experience. Sometimes a good way to get rid of the frustration is to play in the casino, but it should be noted this is just for stress relief and there is no need to make big bets. So I do this very often regardless of winning or losing it's all as entertainment for the mind.

So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 11, 2022, 05:03:40 PM

You cant really find up those things on todays time which funding up for some having capital is impossible.People cant just be trust up nowadays where frauds and scams are really that rampant which means that
you would definitely not able to find those people or on the community when you do ask for some funding even if you do tend to share up huge percentage in regarding or part of the revenue.
Gambling business is really that profitable and just because of those people or gamblers who do really keep on believing and pushing through that they could really win big.
Someone should really be minding about having the good control when it comes into their gambling activity so that you wont really be that ending up
on getting fucked up because you have already lost big and getting addicted on the end.Play for leisure and not for income or earning that kind of motive.
It's because of the ICO trend before where many people got scammed because of a scammer hide behind an ICO which cause the other scammers also start an ICO until you can't find a legit ICO or same project at this time. In order to have it is to be a legit casino first before releasing their own token or coins for gamblers to buy where the funds that they received from selling their tokens or coins will be use to add more of their bankroll or their profit. So I would say that you can still find gambling sites like that but not the same as before.
You are right, I have seen new projects that have to do with ICOs and casinos, this is something that one does once and for all as an alert in his mind, for everything that has been experienced since 2017, it is so similar to what has been experienced in 2021 with NFT games, something that many people were scammed with a lot of money, so this is something that we as players are always going to have certain risks, of course there is also what I know as the old saying: "He who does not risk does not win", but at this point in life we must be very aware of what we are going to risk, nobody likes to lose money, even if it is 1 dollar, nobody likes to lose it.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Slow death on December 12, 2022, 10:11:34 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: BlackRexuz on December 12, 2022, 03:56:18 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

I love playing Blackjack and always to to play by those charts as that in the long run gives you the best chance of being a consistent winnr. It's really hard to play what is considered "by the book" at a table where other players are playing terribly though, so you have to be aware of the players around you and decide if you want to stay at that table or try to find a better group to play with. Most casinos online and live usually have multiple table.

Your view on poker I 100% agree with. You control your fate more in poker.

If the percentage is small then I will leave the table, because it is difficult to win, I am more looking for something that is more profitable than having to stay at a table that is no longer possible to win, at least that goes back to someone's luck playing Poker or Blackjack, my online and live casino I prefer online casino games because I always play them, rather than Live although there is no difference, but I play online more often because I can control myself if I go overboard.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 12, 2022, 04:56:45 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade
You are correct, and I completely agree with you, I am a gambler and also a trader and personally from my experience, gambling is indeed more stressful than trading, though trading have many branches, like spot, futures/margin etc, the one with the lesser stress or maybe with almost no stress at all is spot trading, but when it comes to futures trading, I can tell you that trading futures blindly is almost as stressful as gambling is, but over all, gambling is still more stressful, the kind of anxiety and anxiousness I feel when I gamble(most especially when I am on a losing streak) is far more greater than what I feel when I am loosing in futures trading.  ;D


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: abel1337 on December 12, 2022, 05:09:21 PM
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IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade
You are correct, and I completely agree with you, I am a gambler and also a trader and personally from my experience, gambling is indeed more stressful than trading, though trading have many branches, like spot, futures/margin etc, the one with the lesser stress or maybe with almost no stress at all is spot trading, but when it comes to futures trading, I can tell you that trading futures blindly is almost as stressful as gambling is, but over all, gambling is still more stressful, the kind of anxiety and anxiousness I feel when I gamble(most especially when I am on a losing streak) is far more greater than what I feel when I am loosing in futures trading.  ;D
We all have different experiences but I can consider gambling more fun than trading. There are pressure on both trading and gambling especially if you are chasing the profit you want to get. I remember before when I was still doing futures trade, I'm stressed on every trade I'm doing because of the chance of being liquidated that's why I choose to stay on doing spot trades because it's less stressful. But over all I'm more happy on doing gambling especially when I play my favorite gambling games which is crash and blackjack. There's that pressure but I consider it as a thrill on gambling and I don't convert it to stress like any other people.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 12, 2022, 05:49:26 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade
I wanted to second you on this, but on second thought, I guess it's all about the kind of gambler and trader you are. When it comes to stress, gambling and trading are stressful in some approaches, and not stressful in others. The gamblers following your approach might surely be stressed, but what about the gamblers that do not follow your approach, but are relaxed and bet in a way that keeps them waiting longer for the result while they are away? This is as a trader that scalps could be so stressed since such would have to always be on the screen to get it done.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: khaled0111 on December 12, 2022, 08:31:55 PM
^^
I don't get why are you guys comparing trading to gombling!
Some may say that because the inpredictability of price movements you can bet on whether the price will go up or down. That's not correct because tokens/coins prices do not move based on luck, like on gambling.
Besides, gambling is supposed to be an entertaining activity while trading is more of a business or investment.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on December 13, 2022, 01:38:47 PM
^^
I don't get why are you guys comparing trading to gombling!
Some may say that because the inpredictability of price movements you can bet on whether the price will go up or down. That's not correct because tokens/coins prices do not move based on luck, like on gambling.
Besides, gambling is supposed to be an entertaining activity while trading is more of a business or investment.
I also don't quite understand why our esteemed colleagues on the forum started discussing trading in this topic?  And here is trading, when it comes to gambling that ordinary people play, as they say "plebs" here.

 Actually, in my opinion, all the gambling games that we know with you and even those local games for money that we don’t know, because we live in other countries, in other cultures, and only from the Internet can we find out what exotic and  not very well known gambling in the world exists at all.  So here it is!  Are we talking about the fact that most likely there is some kind of betting limit (apparently expressed in usa dollars), which just divides the players into plebs, and into "super, Profs" :)?
I think that such a border runs somewhere in the region of several thousand dollars.  And what do you think, maybe these $100-200?  
And in some countries, even ten or twenty dollars.  

In my opinion, this is how it is worth solving the issue of "plebs" / "no plebs" :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on December 13, 2022, 08:03:27 PM
We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

I love playing Blackjack and always to to play by those charts as that in the long run gives you the best chance of being a consistent winnr. It's really hard to play what is considered "by the book" at a table where other players are playing terribly though, so you have to be aware of the players around you and decide if you want to stay at that table or try to find a better group to play with. Most casinos online and live usually have multiple table.

Your view on poker I 100% agree with. You control your fate more in poker.

If the percentage is small then I will leave the table, because it is difficult to win, I am more looking for something that is more profitable than having to stay at a table that is no longer possible to win, at least that goes back to someone's luck playing Poker or Blackjack, my online and live casino I prefer online casino games because I always play them, rather than Live although there is no difference, but I play online more often because I can control myself if I go overboard.

The thing about winning and having more copies to win through the poker is one of the things that I think can be most possible to have money or make money, but I think that if you play against other people it is the best, right? I feel that when we enter a casino to play black jack we have more chances to win, I think I also have that thought because it is the easiest for me to play and also because I like it, black jack and poker is one of the games where this is the case. Since you can win, you can lose a lot of money without having to make a lot of effort, and that is what you have to take care of, money when you play a lot is easier to lose if you do it improperly.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: sunsilk on December 13, 2022, 10:43:48 PM
^^
I don't get why are you guys comparing trading to gombling!
Some may say that because the inpredictability of price movements you can bet on whether the price will go up or down. That's not correct because tokens/coins prices do not move based on luck, like on gambling.
Besides, gambling is supposed to be an entertaining activity while trading is more of a business or investment.
There's an unending comparison of gambling and trading, one of the reasons is risk and they just can't get hold of it because they think that it's necessary to compare them.

But it's true, gambling is a way to get entertained and either win or loss as long as you get the essence of having fun and that's it.

While in trading, it's entirely different, you'll have no other mindset there but to win your trades or else learn and repeat.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: 2double0 on December 13, 2022, 11:11:04 PM
I think it depends on the table you play at, the shoe that starts or the cards that have been played already in the BJ session. I count cards, I know it's not a good strategy and can make me lose countless number of times because every time we see a loss, one or more people on different seats leave the table making it difficult for you to understand what's coming your way next. Sometimes, my target gets hit but mostly it is random till I remain in the game with either the whole table as 'full' or I play there 'alone' because that gives clear basic understanding of what you may expect next.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on December 14, 2022, 06:12:03 AM
I think it depends on the table you play at, the shoe that starts or the cards that have been played already in the BJ session. I count cards, I know it's not a good strategy and can make me lose countless number of times because every time we see a loss, one or more people on different seats leave the table making it difficult for you to understand what's coming your way next. Sometimes, my target gets hit but mostly it is random till I remain in the game with either the whole table as 'full' or I play there 'alone' because that gives clear basic understanding of what you may expect next.
If you know how to use it card counting then it is in fact a good strategy, it is so powerful that most casinos will ban you immediately once they know for sure you are counting cards.

However like any strategy that you can employ in a gambling game it is not guaranteed to work all the time, as over the years there have been many people that tried card counting and they failed to make any money as they did not had the mental skill to count cards under the difficult conditions found at a casino or  they simply lacked the money to deal with the losses the strategy could bring to them on the short term.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Peanutswar on December 14, 2022, 11:11:18 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

Well it depends on the person because we know that trading and gambling is in different aspects, in trading, you are aiming to make an open trade or position and those are based on your knowledge and skills, and one of the goals is to earn, in gambling your only goal is to win and get entertained you don't need to think about too much unless you are taking this thing seriously and like a source of income like other people that's the reason why they got frustrated in too much playing of gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 14, 2022, 11:42:22 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

Well it depends on the person because we know that trading and gambling is in different aspects, in trading, you are aiming to make an open trade or position and those are based on your knowledge and skills, and one of the goals is to earn, in gambling your only goal is to win and get entertained you don't need to think about too much unless you are taking this thing seriously and like a source of income like other people that's the reason why they got frustrated in too much playing of gambling.


It depends on the what casino games/gambling games you play or have been playing. Because if you truly have a deep shower-thought about it, isn't trading also an act of risk-taking and also a form of "gambling"? In BlackJack, there is a skill involved that makes house edge smaller, in Poker it's another game of skill with some gambling features like BlackJack. In Craps it's also the same as the other two, it's not like SicBo wherein your destiny is made in one roll. There are some bets in Craps that require more than one roll, therefore it encourages skill and strategy.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 14, 2022, 09:52:59 PM
I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.???  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) ;D). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!

Well, in that you also have to do a little analysis, it is not the same as those people who have so much money and bet big, obviously they have a bigger stomach to bear certain types of expenses, while people who do not have so much money must place bets more moderate without spending a lot, a player regardless of their economic position must do and have control of their expenses, and what is allowed to win or lose, is not something simple, even those who have the most money can lose a lot and become decapitalized, If there is an amount of money willing to lose, it is what can be enjoyed in the game and at the same time have options to win.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 15, 2022, 05:33:01 AM
I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.???  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) ;D). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!

Well, in that you also have to do a little analysis, it is not the same as those people who have so much money and bet big, obviously they have a bigger stomach to bear certain types of expenses, while people who do not have so much money must place bets more moderate without spending a lot, a player regardless of their economic position must do and have control of their expenses, and what is allowed to win or lose, is not something simple, even those who have the most money can lose a lot and become decapitalized, If there is an amount of money willing to lose, it is what can be enjoyed in the game and at the same time have options to win.


I believe delfasTions didn't get the actual context of where my viewpoint is for the topic. I was merely suggesting that for plebs like us, it might better to play more casino games with lower house edge because it would make us lose less, and make is lose in a slower rate than the average. Plebs like us don't have much money to use for gambling, so if a pleb wants to gamble, it might be good to have a wiser casino game preference with lower house edge, like BlackJack or Craps.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on December 16, 2022, 05:55:16 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

In my view you cannot really compare gambling and trading. Gambling should not be stressful, it is just a game and it has to be played for leisure, except pro-poker and the like. But trading is not a game, it is a real profession and done properly, is based on facts and analysis, a different thing is people trying to think of it as being a game. I would rather say it may be a profession.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on December 20, 2022, 06:19:03 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

Well it depends on the person because we know that trading and gambling is in different aspects, in trading, you are aiming to make an open trade or position and those are based on your knowledge and skills, and one of the goals is to earn, in gambling your only goal is to win and get entertained you don't need to think about too much unless you are taking this thing seriously and like a source of income like other people that's the reason why they got frustrated in too much playing of gambling.


It depends on the what casino games/gambling games you play or have been playing. Because if you truly have a deep shower-thought about it, isn't trading also an act of risk-taking and also a form of "gambling"? In BlackJack, there is a skill involved that makes house edge smaller, in Poker it's another game of skill with some gambling features like BlackJack. In Craps it's also the same as the other two, it's not like SicBo wherein your destiny is made in one roll. There are some bets in Craps that require more than one roll, therefore it encourages skill and strategy.
Without a doubt both gambling and trading share some similar characteristics, and it is true that in both you are taking a risk, however the difference is that in trading you can more accurately control the risk you are willing to take.

For example on the roulette you can decide the bet you make, but you cannot change the underlying probabilities of the bet itself, however if you buy bitcoin it is completely different to do it at 60k than at 16k, on the first scenario people were buying near the ATH and this was too risky, while anyone that buys at 16k is doing so near the bottom, so the risk of a crash after you buy is lower.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 20, 2022, 02:37:30 PM
That thing about the gurus from Africa strikes me, I really think this was what Sadio Mané resorted to when he went to see if those characters were going to cure him, and it's like you say, everything is that no one can predict what can go out to win or not, however in lotteries I always leave everything to chance, it is much better because when you are disappointed with being able to win, when you do not disappoint, it can make you sad.

what makes me very shocked is that people who are rich in my country look for these healers so that the healers can consult the espiritus and see the future of these rich people, so these healers charge high values for the predictions of the future, something like 1000$ a 10,000$ and these rich guys from my country pay these high amounts of money and they are deceived, I don't understand how rich people can be deceived in something so obvious, but they think they are rich thanks to the healer, it's a very sad situation indeed

With regard to Plinko, I always play at Betfury, the truth is that if you try to hit it with all the things they have and their levels of difficulty are many, obviously when you choose the most difficult one, it is the one that has the most profits, but it is a game that in my opinion is very entertaining and exciting, when I leave it in automatic mode the emotions are much stronger.

I suggest you take some time to do some research on this Betfury casino, especially look at the reviews that are on trustpilot, these are not good reviews, definitely something you need to see

Well, with regard to the sorcerers and all that, where I live is also like that, many people who have a lot of money only worry that they are examining themselves with these people and it is true, what they do is take money from them, and the sorcerers tell them that they have to pay them large sums of money to continue having the same luck that they have had up to now, of course this is something that goes very against what I think, for me these things are far below what someone should take into account his spiritual development, owing favors to spirits and stuff, well, it doesn't go with me.

Yes, I have already seen the opinions and what a thing, in any case, that is something that is good and sad, I have already stopped playing there.

Having to check something constantly everyday is against human nature, we always forget it eventually, even in many games where there are rewards and bonus where you need to at least login once a day to claim it, I keep forgetting about it.

The more you check it the better and I feel like people will be quite happy with the results if they could just focus on collecting these and gamble with it, but if they can't and sometimes (rarely) forget that is only human nature and nothing wrong with that. I know many people keep talking about how they could do a lot more and so forth but this one is not really that much of a big shock, you can sometimes forget and it's okay.

That is something that I also consider to be the case, but for that there are reminders, of course, although that is not my thing, I am not one of using many agendas or something like that, usually I always have in my mind 2 or 3 maximum casinos with loo which is when I am interested in contests, I cannot deny that Rollbit is one of those casinos, because I really like what it has done with the NFTs, because they have recovered a technology that what they did was put it very badly by the year 2021, now that with the NFT games that some devs made, they managed to scam many people who lost large amounts of money, which unfortunately everything stayed that way.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on December 20, 2022, 04:21:57 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

Well it depends on the person because we know that trading and gambling is in different aspects, in trading, you are aiming to make an open trade or position and those are based on your knowledge and skills, and one of the goals is to earn, in gambling your only goal is to win and get entertained you don't need to think about too much unless you are taking this thing seriously and like a source of income like other people that's the reason why they got frustrated in too much playing of gambling.


It depends on the what casino games/gambling games you play or have been playing. Because if you truly have a deep shower-thought about it, isn't trading also an act of risk-taking and also a form of "gambling"? In BlackJack, there is a skill involved that makes house edge smaller, in Poker it's another game of skill with some gambling features like BlackJack. In Craps it's also the same as the other two, it's not like SicBo wherein your destiny is made in one roll. There are some bets in Craps that require more than one roll, therefore it encourages skill and strategy.
Without a doubt both gambling and trading share some similar characteristics, and it is true that in both you are taking a risk, however the difference is that in trading you can more accurately control the risk you are willing to take.

For example on the roulette you can decide the bet you make, but you cannot change the underlying probabilities of the bet itself, however if you buy bitcoin it is completely different to do it at 60k than at 16k, on the first scenario people were buying near the ATH and this was too risky, while anyone that buys at 16k is doing so near the bottom, so the risk of a crash after you buy is lower.
However, I don't think there is even the slightest similar characteristic of gambling or trading.
Even though it is true, I admit that from gambling or trading, each has its own risks, whether big or small.
It's just that in gambling there are also actions to minimize the risk of losing money, for example in a roulette game a gambler can place a bet by risking 2 columns at once on a column that has a larger proportion for the ball stopping. With the same amount of bets, the win will be 3x of the number of bets and it can be concluded that you get a profit of 1 from the amount of capital used to bet



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: qwertyup23 on December 20, 2022, 05:32:19 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

I think that gambling can be more stressful than day trading.

Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.

Though both have the element of luck present, you can at least lessen the chances of you losing if you have the knowledge and experience in trading.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 20, 2022, 05:49:31 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

I think that gambling can be more stressful than day trading.

Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.

Though both have the element of luck present, you can at least lessen the chances of you losing if you have the knowledge and experience in trading.
When you talk about day trading, you should specify or mention the part or type of day trading, some trade in the spot market, while others trade in the futures/margin market-some call it derivatives.

Now, comparing this to gambling, I would say that gambling installs more anxiety to the body than day trading on spot market.

But in futures market, I can't really say the same, maybe this would depend on how experienced the trader is, many trade futures market blindly, they trade through guessing/predictions and hoping they are right, if in-experienced futures trading should be compared to gambling, I would tell you that Futures trading adds more anxiety to the body than gambling.
This is just my opinion/thoughts, I might be wrong.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dezoel on December 20, 2022, 07:05:36 PM
I don't think there is even the slightest similar characteristic of gambling or trading.
Even though it is true, I admit that from gambling or trading, each has its own risks, whether big or small.
It's just that in gambling there are also actions to minimize the risk of losing money, for example in a roulette game a gambler can place a bet by risking 2 columns at once on a column that has a larger proportion for the ball stopping. With the same amount of bets, the win will be 3x of the number of bets and it can be concluded that you get a profit of 1 from the amount of capital used to bet
What's great about the Roulette game is that there are so many ways to place a bet. You already give one example. It minimizes our risk in exchange for a smaller reward. On some games like Keno and Plinko.

There is also an option to choose a risk. They are low medium and high. Low risks are great if our goal is to wager bigger and high risk are great if we want to earn a better profit.

My response on the argument above if which between gambling and trading can provide more entertainment, I think the obvious answer for this would be gambling because there are different games on them and then they have a catchy graphics and sound. Trading is solely built for someone who possibly wants to earn a profit because this is more of a strategy and skill based.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hamphser on December 20, 2022, 07:51:41 PM
I don't think there is even the slightest similar characteristic of gambling or trading.
Even though it is true, I admit that from gambling or trading, each has its own risks, whether big or small.
It's just that in gambling there are also actions to minimize the risk of losing money, for example in a roulette game a gambler can place a bet by risking 2 columns at once on a column that has a larger proportion for the ball stopping. With the same amount of bets, the win will be 3x of the number of bets and it can be concluded that you get a profit of 1 from the amount of capital used to bet
What's great about the Roulette game is that there are so many ways to place a bet. You already give one example. It minimizes our risk in exchange for a smaller reward. On some games like Keno and Plinko.

There is also an option to choose a risk. They are low medium and high. Low risks are great if our goal is to wager bigger and high risk are great if we want to earn a better profit.

My response on the argument above if which between gambling and trading can provide more entertainment, I think the obvious answer for this would be gambling because there are different games on them and then they have a catchy graphics and sound. Trading is solely built for someone who possibly wants to earn a profit because this is more of a strategy and skill based.
There's no fun when you do make out some trades and its totally different when we are pertaining about trading and gambling which is totally different kind of things.Its never been the same and people shouldnt

really be thinking off that way because if they do make out some in relation about trading and gambling then you are totally trying out to remove their true essence.Trading is for long term and something
could be considered to be a business or investment and gambling is really just for the sake for fun and entertainment.

You shouldnt really go beyond those line or border so that you wont really be ending up on having those different impressions towards things because if you do then
you would really be committing out those kind of mistakes.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lienfaye on December 21, 2022, 01:35:58 AM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on December 21, 2022, 06:25:28 AM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.
I would like to add some of my thoughts. 
If we compare just gambling based on random processes and trading, then I see that the probability of winning is still much greater in gambling.  Trading is an occupation for professionals and an amateur in matters of trading, such as cryptocurrencies, or forex, always loses.  Because his money is the income of professional traders.  And one out of 100 of those who tried to trade on the stock exchange can become a professional in trading.  And then you need to have knowledge, skills and, possibly, insider information.  So it's better to just gamble. 
So the player, I think, just has a much greater chance of winning, even if it's a small amount of money.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 21, 2022, 03:56:54 PM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.
And if you know that gambling won't make you money if you're unlucky, you better not try hard. Trading will suit you better because you can learn how to make a profit from trading. Although each comes with a risk, in trading, if you don't sell your coin when the price goes down, you still have a chance to make a profit when the price goes up again. But in gambling, once you lose, it means you have lost money and it will be difficult to recover those losses because gambling is all about winning and losing.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 21, 2022, 04:10:35 PM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.
And if you know that gambling won't make you money if you're unlucky, you better not try hard. Trading will suit you better because you can learn how to make a profit from trading. Although each comes with a risk, in trading, if you don't sell your coin when the price goes down, you still have a chance to make a profit when the price goes up again. But in gambling, once you lose, it means you have lost money and it will be difficult to recover those losses because gambling is all about winning and losing.
Yeah, you are right about gambling being all about winning or losing, its like a penalty shootout in football, in gambling, the team is you and the casino. you either win and the casino loses or you lose and the casino wins, there is score as 0:0 here  ;D.

But also talking about trading and gambling, like i pointed out in my previous comment, futures trading, which is the core of trading does not give a trader the chance to hold and make profit later, in futures trading, you are either losing or gaining, so personally, i would say that this arm of trading can indeed be likened to gambling, since even doing futures trading blindly is the same as gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 22, 2022, 05:26:10 AM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.
And if you know that gambling won't make you money if you're unlucky, you better not try hard. Trading will suit you better because you can learn how to make a profit from trading. Although each comes with a risk, in trading, if you don't sell your coin when the price goes down, you still have a chance to make a profit when the price goes up again. But in gambling, once you lose, it means you have lost money and it will be difficult to recover those losses because gambling is all about winning and losing.
Yeah, you are right about gambling being all about winning or losing, its like a penalty shootout in football, in gambling, the team is you and the casino. you either win and the casino loses or you lose and the casino wins, there is score as 0:0 here  ;D.

But also talking about trading and gambling, like i pointed out in my previous comment, futures trading, which is the core of trading does not give a trader the chance to hold and make profit later, in futures trading, you are either losing or gaining, so personally, i would say that this arm of trading can indeed be likened to gambling, since even doing futures trading blindly is the same as gambling.
No matter how hard it is, we still won't be able to get a big win from the casino because, as the owner of the place, it's the casino that will get the big win. Even though we can win from the casino, the amount will not be as big as what the casino will get, so this should make us think that we can gamble, but it must be within the limits that we can accept.

Indeed, there are many types of trading, and it is our job to find the type of trading that suits us so that the trading we do will not be like gambling. But sadly, many people make the mistake of just following what others write about when to buy and sell, so they never learn more to find the trade that suits them. If that's what they did, it would be the same as gambling, and they wouldn't be able to make a profit.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on December 22, 2022, 07:38:59 AM
I don't think there is even the slightest similar characteristic of gambling or trading.
Even though it is true, I admit that from gambling or trading, each has its own risks, whether big or small.
It's just that in gambling there are also actions to minimize the risk of losing money, for example in a roulette game a gambler can place a bet by risking 2 columns at once on a column that has a larger proportion for the ball stopping. With the same amount of bets, the win will be 3x of the number of bets and it can be concluded that you get a profit of 1 from the amount of capital used to bet
What's great about the Roulette game is that there are so many ways to place a bet. You already give one example. It minimizes our risk in exchange for a smaller reward. On some games like Keno and Plinko.

There is also an option to choose a risk. They are low medium and high. Low risks are great if our goal is to wager bigger and high risk are great if we want to earn a better profit.

My response on the argument above if which between gambling and trading can provide more entertainment, I think the obvious answer for this would be gambling because there are different games on them and then they have a catchy graphics and sound. Trading is solely built for someone who possibly wants to earn a profit because this is more of a strategy and skill based.
Indeed, there are many ways to place bets and there are many ways to minimize the small possibility of experiencing defeat.
I only give a small example about the game of roulette and how to play placing bets on roulette games to avoid losing.
I admit that I don't understand all the gambling games on the casino site, I only study games that I think are fun and can be played to be able to win them.
So please understand from my previous opinion that I can't give much explanation about how to bet on casino games.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 22, 2022, 11:32:13 AM
I don't think there is even the slightest similar characteristic of gambling or trading.
Even though it is true, I admit that from gambling or trading, each has its own risks, whether big or small.
It's just that in gambling there are also actions to minimize the risk of losing money, for example in a roulette game a gambler can place a bet by risking 2 columns at once on a column that has a larger proportion for the ball stopping. With the same amount of bets, the win will be 3x of the number of bets and it can be concluded that you get a profit of 1 from the amount of capital used to bet
What's great about the Roulette game is that there are so many ways to place a bet. You already give one example. It minimizes our risk in exchange for a smaller reward. On some games like Keno and Plinko.

There is also an option to choose a risk. They are low medium and high. Low risks are great if our goal is to wager bigger and high risk are great if we want to earn a better profit.


Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

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My response on the argument above if which between gambling and trading can provide more entertainment, I think the obvious answer for this would be gambling because there are different games on them and then they have a catchy graphics and sound. Trading is solely built for someone who possibly wants to earn a profit because this is more of a strategy and skill based.


But skill and strategy-based casino games can be "entertaining" too. It's a the different kind of entertainment, but a kind of entertainment that can also win the user some money, and keep himself/herself longer than the person who plays the slot machine with minimum house edge of 5%.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: AbuBhakar on December 22, 2022, 11:58:18 AM

Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

Yeah, Craps is the best gambling game for a low house edge percentage category since it only has 1.41% percentage while it pays more than x2 in every single bet. I wonder how craps is not yet popular despite its design is less risky and higher payout compared to typical games like dice, roulette and blackjack.

I’m playing craps for a long time with good profit until now because I can control my bets and limit to few numbers that I know that hot for that round. Betting on hardways gives a sweet profit too.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on December 22, 2022, 06:10:36 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

Well it depends on the person because we know that trading and gambling is in different aspects, in trading, you are aiming to make an open trade or position and those are based on your knowledge and skills, and one of the goals is to earn, in gambling your only goal is to win and get entertained you don't need to think about too much unless you are taking this thing seriously and like a source of income like other people that's the reason why they got frustrated in too much playing of gambling.


It depends on the what casino games/gambling games you play or have been playing. Because if you truly have a deep shower-thought about it, isn't trading also an act of risk-taking and also a form of "gambling"? In BlackJack, there is a skill involved that makes house edge smaller, in Poker it's another game of skill with some gambling features like BlackJack. In Craps it's also the same as the other two, it's not like SicBo wherein your destiny is made in one roll. There are some bets in Craps that require more than one roll, therefore it encourages skill and strategy.
Without a doubt both gambling and trading share some similar characteristics, and it is true that in both you are taking a risk, however the difference is that in trading you can more accurately control the risk you are willing to take.

For example on the roulette you can decide the bet you make, but you cannot change the underlying probabilities of the bet itself, however if you buy bitcoin it is completely different to do it at 60k than at 16k, on the first scenario people were buying near the ATH and this was too risky, while anyone that buys at 16k is doing so near the bottom, so the risk of a crash after you buy is lower.
I have not been able to do business because I do not have the bases to do it, what I have done is buy some tokens, and cryptocurrencies, I have a little bitcoin, but I have not reached 1 bitcoin yet, but excuse me but I do not know why they buy what trading has something to do with the game, just one day I entered a page where there was a game that was trading with a bear and a bull and one had to guess where the market was going if up or down, that's it what do you mean right? Because if that's the case, that's the way I see that it can be compared, on that page you earned a tkoen but it was difficult because sometimes the market went to the opposite side that I chose.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Shamm on December 22, 2022, 09:14:49 PM

Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

Yeah, Craps is the best gambling game for a low house edge percentage category since it only has 1.41% percentage while it pays more than x2 in every single bet. I wonder how craps is not yet popular despite its design is less risky and higher payout compared to typical games like dice, roulette and blackjack.

I’m playing craps for a long time with good profit until now because I can control my bets and limit to a few numbers that I know that hot for that round. Betting on hard ways gives a sweet profit too.

Craps is a good one in every single bet when you win then you can earn double your bet because they double it. For me craps are one of The best games in casinos but still wondering why this is one is not a very popular one is big gamblers won't play this and I think because of the wagger or the game itself but for me this is a good one. In roulette it will base on the outcome and once you hit a lucky combination then you will be happy for your winning.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on December 22, 2022, 09:58:22 PM

Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

Yeah, Craps is the best gambling game for a low house edge percentage category since it only has 1.41% percentage while it pays more than x2 in every single bet. I wonder how craps is not yet popular despite its design is less risky and higher payout compared to typical games like dice, roulette and blackjack.

I’m playing craps for a long time with good profit until now because I can control my bets and limit to a few numbers that I know that hot for that round. Betting on hard ways gives a sweet profit too.

Craps is a good one in every single bet when you win then you can earn double your bet because they double it. For me craps are one of The best games in casinos but still wondering why this is one is not a very popular one is big gamblers won't play this and I think because of the wagger or the game itself but for me this is a good one. In roulette it will base on the outcome and once you hit a lucky combination then you will be happy for your winning.

From a "pleb" perspective, gambling is either a low intensity thrill - like a small budget every week or so, or a kind of all or nothing stake. In the second case, roulette can be a reasonable option. You would need to hit like 10 successful red/black in a row or go for one or two numbers and hit a couple of times in a row. All quite difficult, but hey, it is plebs prerogative to dream  ;D


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 23, 2022, 11:32:01 AM

Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

Yeah, Craps is the best gambling game for a low house edge percentage category since it only has 1.41% percentage while it pays more than x2 in every single bet. I wonder how craps is not yet popular despite its design is less risky and higher payout compared to typical games like dice, roulette and blackjack.

I’m playing craps for a long time with good profit until now because I can control my bets and limit to few numbers that I know that hot for that round. Betting on hardways gives a sweet profit too.


I have always recommended Craps because it's the best casino game FOR ME that has rules that encourage strategy, not like Sic Bo, which the results of winning or losing is based on luck. It's an absolute gambling game. BUT the best FOR ME might not be the best FOR YOU.

BlackJack, Coin_trader's favorite, is also a casino game that has rules that encourage strategy, but it's not for me. It gives me stress, and when I'm stressed, I do Martingale Betting Strategy and lose all of my balance. Hahahaha.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Slow death on December 23, 2022, 06:33:34 PM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

I think that gambling can be more stressful than day trading.

Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.

Though both have the element of luck present, you can at least lessen the chances of you losing if you have the knowledge and experience in trading.
When you talk about day trading, you should specify or mention the part or type of day trading, some trade in the spot market, while others trade in the futures/margin market-some call it derivatives.

Now, comparing this to gambling, I would say that gambling installs more anxiety to the body than day trading on spot market.

But in futures market, I can't really say the same, maybe this would depend on how experienced the trader is, many trade futures market blindly, they trade through guessing/predictions and hoping they are right, if in-experienced futures trading should be compared to gambling, I would tell you that Futures trading adds more anxiety to the body than gambling.
This is just my opinion/thoughts, I might be wrong.

if there is something in my opinion that is clear and that the no day trade the futures and margin market is something very similar to gambling particularly very similar to sports betting, I particularly avoid trading the futures and margin market because it is easy to lose everything money, even if the person is very good in technical analysis, this futures market is a very dangerous market where only exchanges are making a lot of money with it

a lot of people at first were posting videos on youtube of how they would be making a lot of money fast in the futures market, but after a while most of these people stopped posting videos and stopped talking about this subject, I suspect they must have lost a lot money in this market and for that reason they stopped talking about this subject, in games of chance, all games that depend on luck for the person to win bring many frustrations in addition to many losses, people can even pretend that they are having fun with the games but at the end of the day when they look at their portfolio they get frustrated, I even find it impressive that even so the next day they are playing even knowing that the purpose is to lose


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on December 23, 2022, 09:30:11 PM

Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

Yeah, Craps is the best gambling game for a low house edge percentage category since it only has 1.41% percentage while it pays more than x2 in every single bet. I wonder how craps is not yet popular despite its design is less risky and higher payout compared to typical games like dice, roulette and blackjack.

I’m playing craps for a long time with good profit until now because I can control my bets and limit to a few numbers that I know that hot for that round. Betting on hard ways gives a sweet profit too.

Craps is a good one in every single bet when you win then you can earn double your bet because they double it. For me craps are one of The best games in casinos but still wondering why this is one is not a very popular one is big gamblers won't play this and I think because of the wagger or the game itself but for me this is a good one. In roulette it will base on the outcome and once you hit a lucky combination then you will be happy for your winning.

That sounds very good and even something easy to adapt for a conservative style of play, but from what I see it can easily fall into the martingale strategy, and that strategy has left many ugaodres bankrupt and in a short time, the I can see roulettes as slot machines, I have no luck in any of those games and no matter how hard I try to play I lose, what I think is that I have an idea about those games and maybe that's why I lose?

These things of believing that one is lucky or not is something of commoners too and it is a characteristic of being somewhat insufferable in a house where one cannot lose but rather win and that is impossible.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Oilacris on December 23, 2022, 11:42:39 PM

Roulette has a house edge from 2.70% to 5.26%. I believe 2.70% is OK, but you can find lower house edge in other games, and also be "entertained" too during the moment. My recommendation is Craps!

Yeah, Craps is the best gambling game for a low house edge percentage category since it only has 1.41% percentage while it pays more than x2 in every single bet. I wonder how craps is not yet popular despite its design is less risky and higher payout compared to typical games like dice, roulette and blackjack.

I’m playing craps for a long time with good profit until now because I can control my bets and limit to a few numbers that I know that hot for that round. Betting on hard ways gives a sweet profit too.

Craps is a good one in every single bet when you win then you can earn double your bet because they double it. For me craps are one of The best games in casinos but still wondering why this is one is not a very popular one is big gamblers won't play this and I think because of the wagger or the game itself but for me this is a good one. In roulette it will base on the outcome and once you hit a lucky combination then you will be happy for your winning.

That sounds very good and even something easy to adapt for a conservative style of play, but from what I see it can easily fall into the martingale strategy, and that strategy has left many ugaodres bankrupt and in a short time, the I can see roulettes as slot machines, I have no luck in any of those games and no matter how hard I try to play I lose, what I think is that I have an idea about those games and maybe that's why I lose?

These things of believing that one is lucky or not is something of commoners too and it is a characteristic of being somewhat insufferable in a house where one cannot lose but rather win and that is impossible.

Whether you are a whale or a commoner then there's no way that you could really able to avoid those random chance if we do speak about winning, the only differs here into those huge wagerers is that

they could really extent out their strategies on to some certain degree because they do have huge bankroll or capital which those commoners or small wagerers couldnt able to do so.

I dont stress out myself on why is that others do win often and just simply accepts that im not really lucky on that particular session or game time.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on December 24, 2022, 06:06:20 AM
Whether you are a whale or a commoner then there's no way that you could really able to avoid those random chance if we do speak about winning, the only differs here into those huge wagerers is that

they could really extent out their strategies on to some certain degree because they do have huge bankroll or capital which those commoners or small wagerers couldnt able to do so.

I dont stress out myself on why is that others do win often and just simply accepts that im not really lucky on that particular session or game time.
There is no doubt that a whale could expand its strategy to a certain degree because the capital it used exceeded that of ordinary gamblers who only used small capital.
We can only think that small gamblers can win if they have great luck, so the wins will also be big, and this can happen in slot games.
But if you feel you have skills in skill-based gambling games, your win rate may be greater so you can win in large numbers.
But once again, the victory will not come easily and the loss will come easily to you.
So be wise in playing gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 24, 2022, 07:42:24 AM
Whether you are a whale or a commoner then there's no way that you could really able to avoid those random chance if we do speak about winning, the only differs here into those huge wagerers is that they could really extent out their strategies on to some certain degree because they do have huge bankroll or capital which those commoners or small wagerers couldnt able to do so.

I dont stress out myself on why is that others do win often and just simply accepts that im not really lucky on that particular session or game time.

There is no doubt that a whale could expand its strategy to a certain degree because the capital it used exceeded that of ordinary gamblers who only used small capital.

We can only think that small gamblers can win if they have great luck, so the wins will also be big, and this can happen in slot games.

But if you feel you have skills in skill-based gambling games, your win rate may be greater so you can win in large numbers.

But once again, the victory will not come easily and the loss will come easily to you.
So be wise in playing gambling.


If a small amount of capital is the problem, then the adjustment that plebs must do that makes good logical sense is, make your bets smaller.

Smaller amount of capital = smaller bets. 8)

Don't believe those plebs like us who says that the Martingale System works because 100% of the time is, they're lying. Martingale System with a small/limited amount of capital, played in casino games with house edge low or high, is a quick path to ruin.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on December 24, 2022, 09:18:17 AM
~ Don't believe those plebs like us who says that the Martingale System works because 100% of the time is, they're lying. Martingale System with a small/limited amount of capital, played in casino games with house edge low or high, is a quick path to ruin.

Indeed, if you want to make money through martingale, it's a shortcut to disaster. Even if your initial bet is as small as $0.20 you are doomed. However, you can still use martingale playing for your entertainment. I'm doing it all the time. But I'm starting really low, like a thousandth of a cent, and if my target is, say, 99x, I'm not doubling my bet each time, but rather every tenth time or so. And most of the time I hit it eventually, like today, for instance:

https://i.imgur.com/9oU81ch.png

but considering what I have previously lost, my real winning is just around 10 cents. So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 24, 2022, 06:44:23 PM
~ Don't believe those plebs like us who says that the Martingale System works because 100% of the time is, they're lying. Martingale System with a small/limited amount of capital, played in casino games with house edge low or high, is a quick path to ruin.

Indeed, if you want to make money through martingale, it's a shortcut to disaster. Even if your initial bet is as small as $0.20 you are doomed. However, you can still use martingale playing for your entertainment. I'm doing it all the time. But I'm starting really low, like a thousandth of a cent, and if my target is, say, 99x, I'm not doubling my bet each time, but rather every tenth time or so. And most of the time I hit it eventually, like today, for instance:

https://i.imgur.com/9oU81ch.png

but considering what I have previously lost, my real winning is just around 10 cents. So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.


That is a great example and with the illustration it is the best to do it, I think that the martingale is a way of betting for those who want to feel the adrenaline at its maximum level, although I have applied it I do not recommend it, because most of Sometimes I have lost, and it is not advisable to tell people to lose their money, because it would be something very bad, it is best for the person to bet without resorting to that strategy, there are many strategies, but above all I believe that before applying any technique it is necessary to emphasize that the strategies are only some of the ways that the players have to follow a type of pattern and enjoy. It is not a sure thing to earn money.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Haunebu on December 24, 2022, 07:29:47 PM
So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: minime0105 on December 24, 2022, 07:55:25 PM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.
And if you know that gambling won't make you money if you're unlucky, you better not try hard. Trading will suit you better because you can learn how to make a profit from trading. Although each comes with a risk, in trading, if you don't sell your coin when the price goes down, you still have a chance to make a profit when the price goes up again. But in gambling, once you lose, it means you have lost money and it will be difficult to recover those losses because gambling is all about winning and losing.
The different between gambling and trading is that gambling is game of luck and prediction due to your level of understanding of gambling and that particular gambling specifically, why trading due occur through luck also, but the different between them is that trading is something you will like the risk which is involved in trading without having anything like double mind, so therefore someone may have advantages in trading than gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: serjent05 on December 24, 2022, 08:18:16 PM
~ Don't believe those plebs like us who says that the Martingale System works because 100% of the time is, they're lying. Martingale System with a small/limited amount of capital, played in casino games with house edge low or high, is a quick path to ruin.

Indeed, if you want to make money through martingale, it's a shortcut to disaster. Even if your initial bet is as small as $0.20 you are doomed. However, you can still use martingale playing for your entertainment. I'm doing it all the time. But I'm starting really low, like a thousandth of a cent, and if my target is, say, 99x, I'm not doubling my bet each time, but rather every tenth time or so. And most of the time I hit it eventually, like today, for instance:

https://i.imgur.com/9oU81ch.png

but considering what I have previously lost, my real winning is just around 10 cents. So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.

We all agree that martingale sucks our bankroll dry in an instant if we happen to hit a series of losing streaks.  Even though we won at the last spin, the most we can win is the amount of our initial bet.  I have tried this kind of approach and created different kind of variables, still at the end no matter what strategy we do, we will end up in a lost.

So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.

The key factor in here is doing the reverse martingale and stopping at the right time.  In reverse martingale, we double as we win, if we are lucky enough to have 5 consecutive wins and stop. In a bet of $2 dollars 5 consecutive wins can earn us $64 at most.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Dunamisx on December 24, 2022, 09:56:18 PM
The more I often come across this thread on gambling board it gives me that impression that gambling is not been specific on the category or kinds of gamblerse that it must constitute, some gambling is been designed in a such way that makes every gamblers get equal right in serving others right since they were out for business, as long as the casinos will always care and show them it worth it, money is the common and general language they can understand be it from plebs or not.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Haunebu on December 25, 2022, 04:48:42 PM
The key factor in here is doing the reverse martingale and stopping at the right time.  In reverse martingale, we double as we win, if we are lucky enough to have 5 consecutive wins and stop. In a bet of $2 dollars 5 consecutive wins can earn us $64 at most.
Reverse martingale and other variations of martingale are actually a lot worse when compared to the original which is why most gamblers including me tend to stick to the original strategy itself.

Another reason as to why the original is more popular in comparison is because many gamblers are unaware of its variations.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 26, 2022, 09:12:41 AM
So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.

Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.


"Short-term" doesn't prove anything. It's an excuse. Would it really count if "the gambler" used the Martingale System, won a big amount, them stopped gambling forever? Would that really prove that the Martingale System as "practically useful" for gambling? I believe not, unless "the gambler" used his winnings to gamble with the Martingale System again, which will prove that it isn't an effective system when you're playing casino games that have a house edge.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on December 26, 2022, 08:29:07 PM
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.


"Short-term" doesn't prove anything. It's an excuse. Would it really count if "the gambler" used the Martingale System, won a big amount, them stopped gambling forever? Would that really prove that the Martingale System as "practically useful" for gambling? I believe not, unless "the gambler" used his winnings to gamble with the Martingale System again, which will prove that it isn't an effective system when you're playing casino games that have a house edge.
A strategy can either give consistent profits or not, due to the randomness of the games some gamblers can obtain some profits but the negative expected value of their bets will continue to exist, however those profits have nothing to do with martingale and instead they have to do with the nature of gambling itself.

So the only way to judge the martingale strategy is by applying a long term approach to it, and whenever this has been done martingale has been proven to be a useless strategy.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on December 26, 2022, 08:45:19 PM
So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.

High risks to low reward ratio is want I don't used to like looking at the high risks I will take with lower or small rewards is not good for my liking. I do like taking little risks so my chances of winning with be high and even though what I am winning is little, I will still prefer it since I am having a consistent winnings always.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Newlifebtc on December 26, 2022, 08:51:48 PM
So, like I said, it's not a way of making money. Don't try to start from a higher amount to win more in the end. This may end very badly.
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.

High risks to low reward ratio is want I don't used to like looking at the high risks I will take with lower or small rewards is not good for my liking. I do like taking little risks so my chances of winning with be high and even though what I am winning is little, I will still prefer it since I am having a consistent winnings always.
That you are right for that particular statement you made anyone who would like to take a low risk 4 involvement of gambling third person might have big close to winning or having what did you have in mind predicting higher was thinking to get her I think it will make you To lose your target particularly.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Oilacris on December 26, 2022, 10:53:36 PM

If a small amount of capital is the problem, then the adjustment that plebs must do that makes good logical sense is, make your bets smaller.

Smaller amount of capital = smaller bets. 8)

Don't believe those plebs like us who says that the Martingale System works because 100% of the time is, they're lying. Martingale System with a small/limited amount of capital, played in casino games with house edge low or high, is a quick path to ruin.
Only those people who doesnt have experience about martingale system would definitely be saying that small capital would turn out to be big if they would be using up this strategy.
They are really be able to experience for themselves about the bitter truth.
If your capital is just too small even placing up with the smallest possible minimum bet or lowest one then it would really be still be blown up in fire
in short losing streaks.
Lots have tried and experienced ones would definitely tell that it isnt something worth it to try. This is really just the fastest
way on busting up your entire bankroll.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 27, 2022, 08:52:33 AM
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.


"Short-term" doesn't prove anything. It's an excuse. Would it really count if "the gambler" used the Martingale System, won a big amount, them stopped gambling forever? Would that really prove that the Martingale System as "practically useful" for gambling? I believe not, unless "the gambler" used his winnings to gamble with the Martingale System again, which will prove that it isn't an effective system when you're playing casino games that have a house edge.

A strategy can either give consistent profits or not, due to the randomness of the games some gamblers can obtain some profits but the negative expected value of their bets will continue to exist, however those profits have nothing to do with martingale and instead they have to do with the nature of gambling itself.

So the only way to judge the martingale strategy is by applying a long term approach to it, and whenever this has been done martingale has been proven to be a useless strategy.


Please try to understand my point. House edge makes sure that a player/user is a long term loser. The Martingale System has nothing to do with winning or losing, BUT has everything to do with how fast/quick that he/she loses his/her capital. Visualize being long term loser in a casino game that has 5% house edge against you, and doubling the amount of your bets everytime you lose. The casino might already be counting the amount of their profits from you before they happen.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on December 27, 2022, 09:45:57 AM
Contrary to popular belief, it's actually possible to earn big amounts through martingale only in the short-term as long as luck sides with you big-time. It's a high-risk, high-reward solution only in the short-term.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but it worked for many others despite being a negative progression strategy.


"Short-term" doesn't prove anything. It's an excuse. Would it really count if "the gambler" used the Martingale System, won a big amount, them stopped gambling forever? Would that really prove that the Martingale System as "practically useful" for gambling? I believe not, unless "the gambler" used his winnings to gamble with the Martingale System again, which will prove that it isn't an effective system when you're playing casino games that have a house edge.

A strategy can either give consistent profits or not, due to the randomness of the games some gamblers can obtain some profits but the negative expected value of their bets will continue to exist, however those profits have nothing to do with martingale and instead they have to do with the nature of gambling itself.

So the only way to judge the martingale strategy is by applying a long term approach to it, and whenever this has been done martingale has been proven to be a useless strategy.


Please try to understand my point. House edge makes sure that a player/user is a long term loser. The Martingale System has nothing to do with winning or losing, BUT has everything to do with how fast/quick that he/she loses his/her capital. Visualize being long term loser in a casino game that has 5% house edge against you, and doubling the amount of your bets everytime you lose. The casino might already be counting the amount of their profits from you before they happen.
Yeah!  These are exactly what you pointed out, I totally agree, a good example. 
Of course, you can also gamble on the Martingale strategy.  But the question always arises, how long, how many cycles of the game will sustain your budget and the money that you can afford to lose.  This is where you start to figure out .. count ...
And you understand that you should not play according to this strategy for the simple reason that the game itself will not last too long, you will enjoy the game for too little time (which is generally the most important thing when playing  casino!). 
And besides, a series of frustrations from losing, it still grows as the size of the lost bet grows. 

So I, perhaps, am not a supporter of a clear and strict use of such a strategy. 
But, of course, maybe someone likes to play like that.?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 27, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs.  

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.???  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) ;D).  
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs.  
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!

Well, in that you also have to do a little analysis, it is not the same as those people who have so much money and bet big, obviously they have a bigger stomach to bear certain types of expenses, while people who do not have so much money must place bets more moderate without spending a lot, a player regardless of their economic position must do and have control of their expenses, and what is allowed to win or lose, is not something simple, even those who have the most money can lose a lot and become decapitalized, If there is an amount of money willing to lose, it is what can be enjoyed in the game and at the same time have options to win.


I believe delfasTions didn't get the actual context of where my viewpoint is for the topic. I was merely suggesting that for plebs like us, it might better to play more casino games with lower house edge because it would make us lose less, and make is lose in a slower rate than the average. Plebs like us don't have much money to use for gambling, so if a pleb wants to gamble, it might be good to have a wiser casino game preference with lower house edge, like BlackJack or Craps.
Well, according to my personal experience, when I started in the world of gambling and casinos, what I played the most was craps on freebitco.in, and there used to be a very essential technique with 10,000 sats, you could take 11,000 sats per day, in a matter of 30 consecutive days doing the same strategy you could get a good capital, of course without making bets leaving with the entire balance or with the martingale, because when the martingale was applied it was most likely to lose everything and very quickly, and throwing away the effort of many days was not something that was in the calculations, that is why I believe that more things can be done with little balance, and already at mushroom heights, with little balance I play slot machines without looking to win, just to have fun.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 28, 2022, 10:53:00 AM

Please try to understand my point. House edge makes sure that a player/user is a long term loser. The Martingale System has nothing to do with winning or losing, BUT has everything to do with how fast/quick that he/she loses his/her capital. Visualize being long term loser in a casino game that has 5% house edge against you, and doubling the amount of your bets everytime you lose. The casino might already be counting the amount of their profits from you before they happen.

Yeah!  These are exactly what you pointed out, I totally agree, a good example. 
Of course, you can also gamble on the Martingale strategy.  But the question always arises, how long, how many cycles of the game will sustain your budget and the money that you can afford to lose.  This is where you start to figure out .. count ...
And you understand that you should not play according to this strategy for the simple reason that the game itself will not last too long, you will enjoy the game for too little time (which is generally the most important thing when playing  casino!). 
And besides, a series of frustrations from losing, it still grows as the size of the lost bet grows. 

So I, perhaps, am not a supporter of a clear and strict use of such a strategy. 
But, of course, maybe someone likes to play like that
.?


I'm not against the use of the Martingale System, I'm merely trying to debate if it's truly an effective betting system to help plebs like us win some money in the casino. I have heard others trying to argue that playing casino games is not for profit/just for entertainment. OK, but perhaps using the Martingale System might make the entertainment last for only 10 minutes in the casino because you doubled your bets to zero. Hahaha.

But as you posted, maybe someone likes to play like that. 8)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: bitbollo on December 28, 2022, 12:05:55 PM
I'm not against the use of the Martingale System, I'm merely trying to debate if it's truly an effective betting system to help plebs like us win some money in the casino. I have heard others trying to argue that playing casino games is not for profit/just for entertainment. OK, but perhaps using the Martingale System might make the entertainment last for only 10 minutes in the casino because you doubled your bets to zero. Hahaha.

But as you posted, maybe someone likes to play like that. 8)

I am against martingale system and I think this is one of the worst gambling approach.
You need an endless wallet to be able to reach a win/profit with Martingale system. there are tons of explanation about it, any gambler must be aware of that. also the final result. You will get a win of the initial amount even if you doubled your bets a lot of times. It means you're getting an high risk for a minimum benefit!
Another reason I don't suggest this gambling approach, also because this is the mental result for "addiction". I will bet more/doubling my bet so I can win...


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
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Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 28, 2022, 12:17:16 PM
I'm not against the use of the Martingale System, I'm merely trying to debate if it's truly an effective betting system to help plebs like us win some money in the casino. I have heard others trying to argue that playing casino games is not for profit/just for entertainment. OK, but perhaps using the Martingale System might make the entertainment last for only 10 minutes in the casino because you doubled your bets to zero. Hahaha.

But as you posted, maybe someone likes to play like that. 8)

I am against martingale system and I think this is one of the worst gambling approach.
You need an endless wallet to be able to reach a win/profit with Martingale system. there are tons of explanation about it, any gambler must be aware of that. also the final result. You will get a win of the initial amount even if you doubled your bets a lot of times. It means you're getting an high risk for a minimum benefit!
Another reason I don't suggest this gambling approach, also because this is the mental result for "addiction". I will bet more/doubling my bet so I can win...


I believe the same argument can be applied in day-trading. If a day-trader's stop-loss has been activated repeatedly and it has caused him lose 20% of his capital, should his next trades be double in size before he lost 20%? NO, that would be stupid, he SHOULD make his trades smaller in size to preserve capital, and wait for a better/bullish situation in the market. If he doubles his/her trades during losing streaks, he will have NOTHING by the time everything is bullish again.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 30, 2022, 04:59:56 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

In my view you cannot really compare gambling and trading. Gambling should not be stressful, it is just a game and it has to be played for leisure, except pro-poker and the like. But trading is not a game, it is a real profession and done properly, is based on facts and analysis, a different thing is people trying to think of it as being a game. I would rather say it may be a profession.

Yes, in fact, for me trading is like a profession because it is being studied all the time and there are more and more cases in which more and more can be learned, in fact the large number of books that there are and the number of things that It has happened to many traders who consider themselves professionals, it is something to take into consideration, learning is unique, the game is as you say, just to have fun, except that in poker sometimes you need to have that touch of luck to win with more ease, in particular I really like poker, it is one of the most exciting games, but I must admit that sometimes one can feel pressured and stressed at the same time.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 30, 2022, 10:50:51 AM
Remember that in gambling, luck is the majority factor that can either make or break your day. A person with no skill at all can still win tons of money in gambling if he has the luck for the day. But a person who does not have any prior experience nor skill in trading is most likely to fail and to experience losses.
I agree. Trading is not entirely relying on luck because skills and knowledge are necessary to have a chances to gain and succeed as a trader. While in gambling you can't apply any strategy as proven to be working since it's more on luck, unless you're not playing a chance based game wherein having a knowledge is an edge like in sports betting. Therefore these two are different, although they're both risky. Anyway, regardless of your choice to make money, remember to take time gaining knowledge and know what you're getting into to be aware of the consequences and be prepared. Don't gamble if you can't handle losing your money, same goes if you decided to become a trader.
And if you know that gambling won't make you money if you're unlucky, you better not try hard. Trading will suit you better because you can learn how to make a profit from trading. Although each comes with a risk, in trading, if you don't sell your coin when the price goes down, you still have a chance to make a profit when the price goes up again. But in gambling, once you lose, it means you have lost money and it will be difficult to recover those losses because gambling is all about winning and losing.
The different between gambling and trading is that gambling is game of luck and prediction due to your level of understanding of gambling and that particular gambling specifically, why trading due occur through luck also, but the different between them is that trading is something you will like the risk which is involved in trading without having anything like double mind, so therefore someone may have advantages in trading than gambling.
And if they already know that they have an advantage in trading over gambling, they are better off concentrating on trading and not gambling at all. It will be better for them because their profit potential will be greater by trading than by gambling. They should be aware of this and not try to gamble or they can still gamble occasionally and take a few moments for fun between trades. And we already know the difference between gambling and trading so we can choose which is good for us and make money with that choice.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on December 31, 2022, 10:19:40 AM
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That is a great example and with the illustration it is the best to do it, I think that the martingale is a way of betting for those who want to feel the adrenaline at its maximum level, although I have applied it I do not recommend it, because most of Sometimes I have lost, and it is not advisable to tell people to lose their money, because it would be something very bad, it is best for the person to bet without resorting to that strategy, there are many strategies, but above all I believe that before applying any technique it is necessary to emphasize that the strategies are only some of the ways that the players have to follow a type of pattern and enjoy. It is not a sure thing to earn money.

Surely, it is not. If you don't know this, you can lose a lot of your money with martingale. In the very beginning of my playing dice I lost all my balance to martingale several times, before I decided to use it for entertainment purposes only.  The adrenaline rush you've mentioned isn't that high when you player with smaller amounts of money, but it's still there when it's your 8th red in a row, and that's enough. It should be enough if you don't want to become an adrenaline junkie.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Slow death on December 31, 2022, 11:20:45 AM
So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

In my view you cannot really compare gambling and trading. Gambling should not be stressful, it is just a game and it has to be played for leisure, except pro-poker and the like. But trading is not a game, it is a real profession and done properly, is based on facts and analysis, a different thing is people trying to think of it as being a game. I would rather say it may be a profession.

Yes, in fact, for me trading is like a profession because it is being studied all the time and there are more and more cases in which more and more can be learned, in fact the large number of books that there are and the number of things that It has happened to many traders who consider themselves professionals, it is something to take into consideration, learning is unique, the game is as you say, just to have fun, except that in poker sometimes you need to have that touch of luck to win with more ease, in particular I really like poker, it is one of the most exciting games, but I must admit that sometimes one can feel pressured and stressed at the same time.

an interesting fact about day trading is that all guys who consider themselves gurus or experts are creating youtube channels and writing books and even creating telegram channels where they charge money for the person to be a member and have privileged information, they also give courses, the issue What I asked myself was the following: if these guys are making a profit doing day trades then why aren't they just day trading for a living? right at the beginning I even thought that maybe it was their option to have more other sources of income

but when I also started to learn about day trade and started to day trade I was constantly losing money and I kept blaming myself because I thought the problem was with me and that I needed to have more knowledge, that with that everything would work out, and it took a while good time me looking for more knowledge and losing money on trade

until after a long time I started to observe that these gurus and specialists when they make videos on youtube they don't say how much money they put in the day trade and they don't even trade live with their money and they don't say how much they can profit per day and what The reason is simple: they are not day trading, they lost money and gave up day trading, but they discovered another way to earn money which was with youtube, courses, books and telegram channels


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on December 31, 2022, 05:14:28 PM
The people who are looking for casinos have very different objectives, those who are very millionaires want, apart from being in a casino and being seen, and pretending what they have is necessary for them to play with a lot of money to demonstrate their power, some go with the intention of multiplying their money and they end up losing a lot of money, some go home clean, others leave for fun and even though they don't have much money to survive, they have it as a vice but it is something that makes them happy and that's dangerous but they can live with it. Those who are quite professional have everything calculated, they play, they have fun and when they reach their limit that they will be willing to lose, then they retire without regrets, that's how I classify them.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Beparanf on December 31, 2022, 05:25:10 PM
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That is a great example and with the illustration it is the best to do it, I think that the martingale is a way of betting for those who want to feel the adrenaline at its maximum level, although I have applied it I do not recommend it, because most of Sometimes I have lost, and it is not advisable to tell people to lose their money, because it would be something very bad, it is best for the person to bet without resorting to that strategy, there are many strategies, but above all I believe that before applying any technique it is necessary to emphasize that the strategies are only some of the ways that the players have to follow a type of pattern and enjoy. It is not a sure thing to earn money.

Surely, it is not. If you don't know this, you can lose a lot of your money with martingale. In the very beginning of my playing dice I lost all my balance to martingale several times, before I decided to use it for entertainment purposes only.  The adrenaline rush you've mentioned isn't that high when you player with smaller amounts of money, but it's still there when it's your 8th red in a row, and that's enough. It should be enough if you don't want to become an adrenaline junkie.


I’m cautious too when it comes to martingale because you never know when the massive lose streak hits hard. I remember I have 0.1BTC with 200 sats base bet burned on a 50% winning percentage martingale strategy. Dice game is full of surprises and sometimes you can’t stop thinking if it’s rig or not because of this long lose streak that can occur anytime since I’m leaving my bot playing dice.

After that, I only use martingale strategy after encountering 8 and above lose streak to start increasing my bet so that I will have extra 8 bets for my bank roll.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 31, 2022, 06:42:39 PM
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That is a great example and with the illustration it is the best to do it, I think that the martingale is a way of betting for those who want to feel the adrenaline at its maximum level, although I have applied it I do not recommend it, because most of Sometimes I have lost, and it is not advisable to tell people to lose their money, because it would be something very bad, it is best for the person to bet without resorting to that strategy, there are many strategies, but above all I believe that before applying any technique it is necessary to emphasize that the strategies are only some of the ways that the players have to follow a type of pattern and enjoy. It is not a sure thing to earn money.

Surely, it is not. If you don't know this, you can lose a lot of your money with martingale. In the very beginning of my playing dice I lost all my balance to martingale several times, before I decided to use it for entertainment purposes only.  The adrenaline rush you've mentioned isn't that high when you player with smaller amounts of money, but it's still there when it's your 8th red in a row, and that's enough. It should be enough if you don't want to become an adrenaline junkie.


I’m cautious too when it comes to martingale because you never know when the massive lose streak hits hard. I remember I have 0.1BTC with 200 sats base bet burned on a 50% winning percentage martingale strategy. Dice game is full of surprises and sometimes you can’t stop thinking if it’s rig or not because of this long lose streak that can occur anytime since I’m leaving my bot playing dice.

After that, I only use martingale strategy after encountering 8 and above lose streak to start increasing my bet so that I will have extra 8 bets for my bank roll.
I used to like to use the Martingale strategy on several occasions when playing dice, keno, and some other in-house games, until it delt  with me in a way I didn't expect.
Before the incident, I used to read comments from more experienced gamblers here on this forum advising gamblers to avoid  this strategy, but I've never really paid attention since I felt it's working for me, but on that very day, I was on a losing streak and kept increasing my bet amount hoping the table would turn, and before I realized I should just stop, the entire funds I had in my account was gone, I felt like crying.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: uneng on December 31, 2022, 08:17:10 PM
Blackjack is my favorite gambling game and I had big hopes of profit playing it, but when I play it seems the cards are completely against me for several following rounds. Does the advice on this thread includes AI Blackjack games, or only live games where the croupier is a real person? Anyway, the AI Blackjack should be provably fair, no?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on January 04, 2023, 06:29:59 AM
Blackjack is my favorite gambling game and I had big hopes of profit playing it, but when I play it seems the cards are completely against me for several following rounds. Does the advice on this thread includes AI Blackjack games, or only live games where the croupier is a real person? Anyway, the AI Blackjack should be provably fair, no?
Quite right!  Of course this game must be built using the provable fairness mechanism.  However, to check such a mechanism for 100%, I think it’s not very simple.  Crafty devs may well come up with how to make provable honesty a little bit not quite honest, or, for example, not quite provable.   ;D

As for the fact that "the right card does not go into the hand" - this is a common thing for all players in this game and in poker too.  It all has to do with your hope and mental attitude towards good luck.  But in such games, luck is quite rare.  So it seems to you that everything is bad, although in fact everything goes during the game as it should be.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on January 05, 2023, 10:25:35 AM
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I’m cautious too when it comes to martingale because you never know when the massive lose streak hits hard. I remember I have 0.1BTC with 200 sats base bet burned on a 50% winning percentage martingale strategy. Dice game is full of surprises and sometimes you can’t stop thinking if it’s rig or not because of this long lose streak that can occur anytime since I’m leaving my bot playing dice.

After that, I only use martingale strategy after encountering 8 and above lose streak to start increasing my bet so that I will have extra 8 bets for my bank roll.

Haha, I remember using the same strategy when only starting with dice. Then I dropped it. And not only because of my personal experience, but rather because I understood that it was as pointless as so called "prerolls". It's like written in stone, it's in the code of any fair dice game that each roll is absolutely independent from all the previous ones. Those "extra bets" exist only in our head. In reality you are always starting anew.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on January 05, 2023, 01:10:22 PM
I'm not against the use of the Martingale System, I'm merely trying to debate if it's truly an effective betting system to help plebs like us win some money in the casino. I have heard others trying to argue that playing casino games is not for profit/just for entertainment. OK, but perhaps using the Martingale System might make the entertainment last for only 10 minutes in the casino because you doubled your bets to zero. Hahaha.

But as you posted, maybe someone likes to play like that. 8)

I am against martingale system and I think this is one of the worst gambling approach.
You need an endless wallet to be able to reach a win/profit with Martingale system. there are tons of explanation about it, any gambler must be aware of that. also the final result. You will get a win of the initial amount even if you doubled your bets a lot of times. It means you're getting an high risk for a minimum benefit!
Another reason I don't suggest this gambling approach, also because this is the mental result for "addiction". I will bet more/doubling my bet so I can win...


I believe the same argument can be applied in day-trading. If a day-trader's stop-loss has been activated repeatedly and it has caused him lose 20% of his capital, should his next trades be double in size before he lost 20%? NO, that would be stupid, he SHOULD make his trades smaller in size to preserve capital, and wait for a better/bullish situation in the market. If he doubles his/her trades during losing streaks, he will have NOTHING by the time everything is bullish again.

Some people would say that a stop-loss at -10% is the best way to make sure you loose 10% in every single trade. The best moment for trading (if any) are when volatility is high, and that means large variations - so before you get to the profit zone it is likely that the variation has exceeded your stop loss a few times and gotten you out of the deal. I guess that is why day trading requires bravery and perhaps, ignorance.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Peanutswar on January 05, 2023, 02:40:54 PM
The people who are looking for casinos have very different objectives, those who are very millionaires want, apart from being in a casino and being seen, and pretending what they have is necessary for them to play with a lot of money to demonstrate their power, some go with the intention of multiplying their money and they end up losing a lot of money, some go home clean, others leave for fun and even though they don't have much money to survive, they have it as a vice but it is something that makes them happy and that's dangerous but they can live with it. Those who are quite professional have everything calculated, they play, they have fun and when they reach their limit that they will be willing to lose, then they retire without regrets, that's how I classify them.


One of the objectives of gambling is to give entertainment to the players and one of these is winning the game which really gives a lot of fun to them, other gamblers is already big names and big funds players which is wanting to seek fun if they win well they gain profit if they lose its just nothing because its all about entertainment to them, other people are seeing the gambling as part of their lifestyle that seems like its their job they must need to earn before quitting the game its all about their luck base of playing gambling, its not ideal if you are just a normal person with a minimum wage of earnings. 


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Valzador on January 05, 2023, 06:25:22 PM
One of the objectives of gambling is to give entertainment to the players and one of these is winning the game which really gives a lot of fun to them, other gamblers is already big names and big funds players which is wanting to seek fun if they win well they gain profit if they lose its just nothing because its all about entertainment to them, other people are seeing the gambling as part of their lifestyle that seems like its their job they must need to earn before quitting the game its all about their luck base of playing gambling, its not ideal if you are just a normal person with a minimum wage of earnings. 
Gambling can certainly be a source of entertainment for many people, and the excitement of potentially winning can add to the enjoyment. However, it is important to remember that gambling should always be approached with caution and within one's financial means. It is not advisable to rely on gambling as a source of income or to gamble more than one can afford to lose. It is also important to choose reputable and licensed gambling venues to ensure fair play and the safety of one's funds. It is always a good idea to set limits for oneself and to gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on January 06, 2023, 09:20:44 PM
Blackjack is my favorite gambling game and I had big hopes of profit playing it, but when I play it seems the cards are completely against me for several following rounds. Does the advice on this thread includes AI Blackjack games, or only live games where the croupier is a real person? Anyway, the AI Blackjack should be provably fair, no?
If you play in a casino against an AI, I think it is impossible to beat it, or to have good profits because I find it very difficult for the AI to beat it, it is something that can happen in any case, if a casino applies that in poker then what hope is there for We are the players and we don't have much experience, that's why I like having to play in casinos where you have a lot of people and that you play against them, it's just better for me and how I see these games is possible, but there are no casinos that offer those options, my 'question is why? is not profitable for them? they may not have a lot of winnings but they would have plenty of people going in and out of the casinos.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mahanton on January 06, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
Blackjack is my favorite gambling game and I had big hopes of profit playing it, but when I play it seems the cards are completely against me for several following rounds. Does the advice on this thread includes AI Blackjack games, or only live games where the croupier is a real person? Anyway, the AI Blackjack should be provably fair, no?
If you play in a casino against an AI, I think it is impossible to beat it, or to have good profits because I find it very difficult for the AI to beat it, it is something that can happen in any case, if a casino applies that in poker then what hope is there for We are the players and we don't have much experience, that's why I like having to play in casinos where you have a lot of people and that you play against them, it's just better for me and how I see these games is possible, but there are no casinos that offer those options, my 'question is why? is not profitable for them? they may not have a lot of winnings but they would have plenty of people going in and out of the casinos.


Against Bot or AI isnt something a game that you could easily be able to deal with or something that could be easily be beaten up and this is why its really that understandable that there would really be doubts on taking or dealing up with some game specially with those strategic card games or something in related.You cant really be sure on whom you are fighting for or could really be called a legit opponent.
We do have those assumptions that you are fighting with a bot and its been made up by the platform itself which causes for us to have that less winning chance
which is really something that a common outcome.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: livingfree on January 06, 2023, 11:44:29 PM
If you play in a casino against an AI, I think it is impossible to beat it, or to have good profits because I find it very difficult for the AI to beat it, it is something that can happen in any case, if a casino applies that in poker then what hope is there for We are the players and we don't have much experience, that's why I like having to play in casinos where you have a lot of people and that you play against them, it's just better for me and how I see these games is possible, but there are no casinos that offer those options, my 'question is why? is not profitable for them? they may not have a lot of winnings but they would have plenty of people going in and out of the casinos.
I don't think that it's provably fair. Mostly that even if you try to beat that, it's very unlikely that you'll be able to defeat it. Well, you just try this out in some games that AI is an option and you'll get to see how it's hard to beat the system against it.

But, it's just going to be for some games and not that usually applicable for games that could really be avoided by players. So, if there are casinos that implements it on a poker game, why would you stay on that if you know that it's unbeatable to be there?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 07, 2023, 01:50:47 AM
The key factor in here is doing the reverse martingale and stopping at the right time.  In reverse martingale, we double as we win, if we are lucky enough to have 5 consecutive wins and stop. In a bet of $2 dollars 5 consecutive wins can earn us $64 at most.
Reverse martingale and other variations of martingale are actually a lot worse when compared to the original which is why most gamblers including me tend to stick to the original strategy itself.

Another reason as to why the original is more popular in comparison is because many gamblers are unaware of its variations.

Well, the truth is, I've never done the inverted martingale, I don't really know how to do it, but every time you win, it doubles? It's like doing the martingale but in a slightly more dangerous way, that's how I see it, I don't know if it's a good idea, in any case I think you can try with the balance you say, it's not bad, it's not good either, but it is a way that you have to be able to do things differently and look for more fun, the important thing is that the balance that you are willing to lose, respect the plan and strategy that you have very well, if the s is not met Due to one's own rules, I think that's the main flaw.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on January 07, 2023, 07:07:09 AM
Well, the truth is, I've never done the inverted martingale, I don't really know how to do it, but every time you win, it doubles? It's like doing the martingale but in a slightly more dangerous way, that's how I see it, I don't know if it's a good idea, in any case I think you can try with the balance you say, it's not bad, it's not good either, but it is a way that you have to be able to do things differently and look for more fun, the important thing is that the balance that you are willing to lose, respect the plan and strategy that you have very well, if the s is not met Due to one's own rules, I think that's the main flaw.

IMO, all martingale strategies of all kinds require really a lot of funds. because every round we have to add to the previous bet 2x to take our loss.
As far as I know, the reverse martingale makes bets by increasing the bet 2x and adding 1x to the bet when you get a loss. so that when after losing several times we take over our losses + get a little win from the 1x that we add every round. so this really needs a lot of money.
that's what i know, correct me if i'm wrong.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: maydna on January 07, 2023, 07:58:30 AM
My truth is that Gambling sucks to me and I have not such good luck to play such games and make some good money. So I'm near future I might try my best to to do so.
If that's the case with you, maybe you shouldn't approach gambling and try not to get involved in any gambling. And if you really want to play gambling, it's better for you to gamble just for fun and don't try to use more money to win it because it will be very difficult. After all, there is no guarantee that you can make a lot of money gambling but you can lose a lot of money from gambling. You've probably seen what happens to people who lose a lot and still gamble. And you don't need to follow it because you feel unlucky to play gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 09, 2023, 12:17:34 AM
My truth is that Gambling sucks to me and I have not such good luck to play such games and make some good money. So I'm near future I might try my best to to do so.
If that's the case with you, maybe you shouldn't approach gambling and try not to get involved in any gambling. And if you really want to play gambling, it's better for you to gamble just for fun and don't try to use more money to win it because it will be very difficult. After all, there is no guarantee that you can make a lot of money gambling but you can lose a lot of money from gambling. You've probably seen what happens to people who lose a lot and still gamble. And you don't need to follow it because you feel unlucky to play gambling.
I think the same, for me when I'm in a casino the last thing I think is to think badly about a site, because it may be that the person has suffered a great loss, but even so, it must be understood that, first of all, there is nothing safe in a person who enter a casino, because people believe that they must win what they enter and they forget about the advantage that the house will always have and it can cause discomfort, especially in a novice, because when a novice enters, he does it with the greatest ignorance of the world, and you can only think about how much you can earn, and that is a big mistake, but how can you warn them? Yes, in most cases, due to the emconies of the players, sometimes they don't even read the least bit, but rather start playing.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on January 09, 2023, 08:18:47 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Dunamisx on January 09, 2023, 08:47:17 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.

Have you discover that it all rotates round about whereby gamblers looses and some wins against each other when they play in a casino, but there are games in categories that some gamblers always seek to play whereby this kind will minimized the risk of not  being winning and you don't have to gamble only on the games you can play at best, there every good opportunity in trying out something new because some games in gambling on works by luck and not by skills.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Ebede on January 09, 2023, 09:56:55 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
Many of us who is into gambling knows quite well that gambling the something that we know that gambling is not a job but we continue to gamble in order to earn a daily or monthly living so I can gamble because of entertainment myself but I cannot gamble because I want to make money this is the two things that is involved in gambling


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Lanatsa on January 09, 2023, 11:10:50 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
Many of us who is into gambling knows quite well that gambling the something that we know that gambling is not a job but we continue to gamble in order to earn a daily or monthly living so I can gamble because of entertainment myself but I cannot gamble because I want to make money this is the two things that is involved in gambling
Gambling for Fun
Gambling for Entertainment

Both are different things but we do know the real purpose on why gambling had existed is because it is really just built for fun and those company owners do really make use of that fun seeking thing
for their own profit and revenue by giving out those chances for players to win up some money if ever they are really that lucky on which it would really be a motivating factor which would
push up people to continue to play and stay.We've seen on how big gambling industry is.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on January 10, 2023, 01:53:38 PM
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Gambling for Fun
Gambling for Entertainment

Both are different things but we do know the real purpose on why gambling had existed is because it is really just built for fun ~

Actually, I don't understand how are those things different? To me gambling for fun and gambling for entertainment is absolutely the same thing, and it differs only from gambling for profit.

I think in the old days most gamblers were aiming for a profit. When they were throwing that six-sided dice 5 thousand years ago, they weren't thinking like, "the probability of each outcome is the same". Rather, they were hoping that gods will be on their side and they will win. There are still such people, but they are the minority among gamblers today, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Blawpaw on January 10, 2023, 02:54:47 PM

"Blackjack is one of our easiest games to play," Bean said. "You're just looking for a number that beats the dealer's number without going over 21."


Blackjack is one of the easiest and fast learning games we can find over at casinos. However, this doesn't mean that it is easy to get out some profits when playing it. Usually, there is the beginner's luck, but then given newbies are inexperienced, they end up losing it all. That is why that I do not consider Blackjack a simple game. I mean, yeah it is easy to grasp and all but being able to get out with some profits is simply not something that is that easy to achieve.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 10, 2023, 03:58:40 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
Many of us who is into gambling knows quite well that gambling the something that we know that gambling is not a job but we continue to gamble in order to earn a daily or monthly living so I can gamble because of entertainment myself but I cannot gamble because I want to make money this is the two things that is involved in gambling
Actually it's okay if we play gambling as long as we can limit ourselves and don't use money that we can't afford. And we can also enter contests in the hope of getting a profit, but we also shouldn't get our hopes up because, in one contest, there are bound to be many gamblers who may have higher luck than us. So we have to be careful when playing gambling in the contest and always forget to control the amount of spending so it doesn't exceed the limits we have set.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 10, 2023, 05:56:06 PM
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That is a great example and with the illustration it is the best to do it, I think that the martingale is a way of betting for those who want to feel the adrenaline at its maximum level, although I have applied it I do not recommend it, because most of Sometimes I have lost, and it is not advisable to tell people to lose their money, because it would be something very bad, it is best for the person to bet without resorting to that strategy, there are many strategies, but above all I believe that before applying any technique it is necessary to emphasize that the strategies are only some of the ways that the players have to follow a type of pattern and enjoy. It is not a sure thing to earn money.

Surely, it is not. If you don't know this, you can lose a lot of your money with martingale. In the very beginning of my playing dice I lost all my balance to martingale several times, before I decided to use it for entertainment purposes only.  The adrenaline rush you've mentioned isn't that high when you player with smaller amounts of money, but it's still there when it's your 8th red in a row, and that's enough. It should be enough if you don't want to become an adrenaline junkie.


I’m cautious too when it comes to martingale because you never know when the massive lose streak hits hard. I remember I have 0.1BTC with 200 sats base bet burned on a 50% winning percentage martingale strategy. Dice game is full of surprises and sometimes you can’t stop thinking if it’s rig or not because of this long lose streak that can occur anytime since I’m leaving my bot playing dice.

After that, I only use martingale strategy after encountering 8 and above lose streak to start increasing my bet so that I will have extra 8 bets for my bank roll.

Well that is something that can be a fairly strong experience, in my case when I started playing a lot, I managed to collect 10mBTC, and the truth is that it was very difficult for me to collect it, at the moment I did it I started betting a lot, but with a multiplier of 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, one day I tried 7x and I didn't try that anymore because betting so much really scared me, but in the end it was nothing, because I lost that balance in the dumbest way making bets and bets for 2x And that's how everything went, after one loses one learns much more, because money is more valued, I think that many who have a lot of money don't learn, but those of us who don't have that much money know how to manage more.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: khaled0111 on January 10, 2023, 08:52:47 PM
Blackjack is one of the easiest and fast learning games we can find over at casinos. However, this doesn't mean that it is easy to get out some profits when playing it.
It's easy to learn the basics and understand the rules of blackjack and other card games but to become experienced in it is a totally different story. Otherwise, we would see many professional blackjack players and return to point zero where winning will depend purely on luck.

Well that is something that can be a fairly strong experience, in my case when I started playing a lot, I managed to collect 10mBTC, and the truth is that it was very difficult for me to collect it, at the moment I did it I started betting a lot, but with a multiplier of 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, one day I tried 7x and I didn't try that anymore because betting so much really scared me, but in the end it was nothing, because I lost that balance in the dumbest way making bets and bets for 2x
This happens to me all the time. It takes me days to earn some money but losing it all takes few minutes. It doesn't bother me too much, though.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on January 11, 2023, 02:41:25 PM
Blackjack is one of the easiest and fast learning games we can find over at casinos. However, this doesn't mean that it is easy to get out some profits when playing it.
It's easy to learn the basics and understand the rules of blackjack and other card games but to become experienced in it is a totally different story. Otherwise, we would see many professional blackjack players and return to point zero where winning will depend purely on luck.

Well that is something that can be a fairly strong experience, in my case when I started playing a lot, I managed to collect 10mBTC, and the truth is that it was very difficult for me to collect it, at the moment I did it I started betting a lot, but with a multiplier of 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, one day I tried 7x and I didn't try that anymore because betting so much really scared me, but in the end it was nothing, because I lost that balance in the dumbest way making bets and bets for 2x
This happens to me all the time. It takes me days to earn some money but losing it all takes few minutes. It doesn't bother me too much, though.
You are by no means the only person on earth who is so constantly "lucky" in gambling.   :)
I think that there are tens and hundreds of millions of such people in the world.  It’s just that some of course can lose earnings in a few days, not in a few minutes, as you wrote, but, say, in an hour or two.  But the meaning of this does not change at all.  Luck in gambling is such a very mysterious thing.  For example, in my life I met a person who was lucky when gambling much more than everyone else.  It was kind of noticeable.  And and constantly.  What kind of phenomenon is this, or does it have some kind of special intuition, this is a mystery of human nature and psychology.  But, yes, such people are rare, but there are. 
And of course there are more of them among professional players, for example, in poker.  And such people, of course, cannot be attributed to those people about whom we are talking in this topic - to the plebs.  And all the rest, probably, these are the same plebs. :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 11, 2023, 03:53:05 PM
One of the objectives of gambling is to give entertainment to the players and one of these is winning the game which really gives a lot of fun to them, other gamblers is already big names and big funds players which is wanting to seek fun if they win well they gain profit if they lose its just nothing because its all about entertainment to them, other people are seeing the gambling as part of their lifestyle that seems like its their job they must need to earn before quitting the game its all about their luck base of playing gambling, its not ideal if you are just a normal person with a minimum wage of earnings. 
Gambling can certainly be a source of entertainment for many people, and the excitement of potentially winning can add to the enjoyment. However, it is important to remember that gambling should always be approached with caution and within one's financial means. It is not advisable to rely on gambling as a source of income or to gamble more than one can afford to lose. It is also important to choose reputable and licensed gambling venues to ensure fair play and the safety of one's funds. It is always a good idea to set limits for oneself and to gamble responsibly.

They are the best recommendations that you can give to everyone, newbies should take into account that these things can be done, it is not difficult, in my case it took me a few years to have good control so as not to spend more than what I am allowed to spend, Previously, I spent a lot of money betting on dice, and at that time everything was an emotion, of course the emotion was not so much when I lost, but even so, when you play and have the opportunity to win, it is the best, you can do it and have better profits but always having better control of everything, especially money, time can be managed well.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hamphser on January 11, 2023, 06:24:39 PM
One of the objectives of gambling is to give entertainment to the players and one of these is winning the game which really gives a lot of fun to them, other gamblers is already big names and big funds players which is wanting to seek fun if they win well they gain profit if they lose its just nothing because its all about entertainment to them, other people are seeing the gambling as part of their lifestyle that seems like its their job they must need to earn before quitting the game its all about their luck base of playing gambling, its not ideal if you are just a normal person with a minimum wage of earnings. 
Gambling can certainly be a source of entertainment for many people, and the excitement of potentially winning can add to the enjoyment. However, it is important to remember that gambling should always be approached with caution and within one's financial means. It is not advisable to rely on gambling as a source of income or to gamble more than one can afford to lose. It is also important to choose reputable and licensed gambling venues to ensure fair play and the safety of one's funds. It is always a good idea to set limits for oneself and to gamble responsibly.

They are the best recommendations that you can give to everyone, newbies should take into account that these things can be done, it is not difficult, in my case it took me a few years to have good control so as not to spend more than what I am allowed to spend, Previously, I spent a lot of money betting on dice, and at that time everything was an emotion, of course the emotion was not so much when I lost, but even so, when you play and have the opportunity to win, it is the best, you can do it and have better profits but always having better control of everything, especially money, time can be managed well.

Having a good control of everything whether it would really be that pertaining on your emotion or financial management which is really that very crucial when it comes to gambling where it is really that much needed

for you to have these things so that you wont really be ending up on messing your life due to bad decisions and actions that you had made on specially when dealing with gambling.Always have that good control or else that emotion and addiction would really be controlling you in the end which we know that it could bring up disaster and makes a huge mess into your entire life which is something that we dont really like to
happen on us and this is why we should really be having that kind of awareness and mindset on whatever we are really that doing or actions been made.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 11, 2023, 06:51:03 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
It is actually not advisable to depend solely on gambling as a way to make a living, i do not argue about your claim for even in my area here, i do see people who would wake up in the morning, brush their teeth , take their bath and dress up nicely like they are going to work, only to walk into a nearby local bet shop and there they will stay until evening.

There are professional gamblers i know, but this ones are well educated and informed in what they do, they are like professional crypto or forex traders, they have always do their home work and tend to know how to go about their gambling business to make a good living off it, they are not like the average gambler who goes about on the street depending on luck of winning a gamble to be able to feed himself and family, this is what i call hard life.
If you are not a professional gambler, better find a job, and let gambling just be another way of just hanging out and making some extra cash.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on January 13, 2023, 02:22:32 PM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
It is actually not advisable to depend solely on gambling as a way to make a living, i do not argue about your claim for even in my area here, i do see people who would wake up in the morning, brush their teeth , take their bath and dress up nicely like they are going to work, only to walk into a nearby local bet shop and there they will stay until evening.

There are professional gamblers i know, but this ones are well educated and informed in what they do, they are like professional crypto or forex traders, they have always do their home work and tend to know how to go about their gambling business to make a good living off it, they are not like the average gambler who goes about on the street depending on luck of winning a gamble to be able to feed himself and family, this is what i call hard life.
If you are not a professional gambler, better find a job, and let gambling just be another way of just hanging out and making some extra cash.

maybe a game about predicting which FOREX traders are going to go bankrupt this year could be a super-fun game for Plebs :) Seriously speaking, many people classed as plebs could be playing games around celebrities... "Double or nothing on Prince Harry publishing a second book on how bad his childhood was". It would certainly be the king of memes game - not sure if profitable.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on January 17, 2023, 08:18:36 AM
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It is actually not advisable to depend solely on gambling as a way to make a living, i do not argue about your claim for even in my area here, i do see people who would wake up in the morning, brush their teeth , take their bath and dress up nicely like they are going to work, only to walk into a nearby local bet shop and there they will stay until evening.

In my opinion, when your living solely depends on gambling, you are always on the edge of hell. Not the religious hell, but the hell we all know exists on earth, because some people we know are living there. They can be junkies, alcoholics, or they can be addicted gamblers, like in this case, but it's hell anyway. Yes, you can live from gambling and from gambling only your whole life, but the risk of losing everything in this case is so high that I would advise to never even think of such a scenario.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 17, 2023, 11:59:15 PM
Blackjack is one of the easiest and fast learning games we can find over at casinos. However, this doesn't mean that it is easy to get out some profits when playing it.
It's easy to learn the basics and understand the rules of blackjack and other card games but to become experienced in it is a totally different story. Otherwise, we would see many professional blackjack players and return to point zero where winning will depend purely on luck.

Well that is something that can be a fairly strong experience, in my case when I started playing a lot, I managed to collect 10mBTC, and the truth is that it was very difficult for me to collect it, at the moment I did it I started betting a lot, but with a multiplier of 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, one day I tried 7x and I didn't try that anymore because betting so much really scared me, but in the end it was nothing, because I lost that balance in the dumbest way making bets and bets for 2x
This happens to me all the time. It takes me days to earn some money but losing it all takes few minutes. It doesn't bother me too much, though.

I personally prefer to make bets with 2x but once I win I stop playing and appeal to play another game, when I win 1 time at least I leave it that way, because it is the way I discovered that I have to have a positive balance, sometimes I earn very little, but I can think of the following, the more positive the balance is, it is a thousand times better than having losses, that is the way I now apply the martingale, the martingale is a very reckless strategy, you must have great control Otherwise, you can lose a lot of money, that is something that we cannot afford to do, because without a balance, without money, nothing can be done, so you have to take care of it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Reatim on January 18, 2023, 05:06:42 AM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
Many of us who is into gambling knows quite well that gambling the something that we know that gambling is not a job but we continue to gamble in order to earn a daily or monthly living so I can gamble because of entertainment myself but I cannot gamble because I want to make money this is the two things that is involved in gambling
Wrong , not all of us are treating gambling as a Job and where to earn money , remember that for you to have this thought? you are not completely Knew what gambling is all about , yeah there are others that completing their lives through gambling but it is very few in which the majority are losing instead of winning and know that from experience .


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lienfaye on January 18, 2023, 07:40:12 AM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
Many of us who is into gambling knows quite well that gambling the something that we know that gambling is not a job but we continue to gamble in order to earn a daily or monthly living so I can gamble because of entertainment myself but I cannot gamble because I want to make money this is the two things that is involved in gambling
Wrong , not all of us are treating gambling as a Job and where to earn money , remember that for you to have this thought? you are not completely Knew what gambling is all about , yeah there are others that completing their lives through gambling but it is very few in which the majority are losing instead of winning and know that from experience .

Despite of the fact that majority of gamblers are losing than winning it's not a hindrance to continue their gambling activity. Since many of us are only playing to entertain ourselves or in moderation. If you gamble with a mindset of hitting a jackpot then you might really end up chasing your losses for having high expectation to win. It's true that some gamblers are able to make a living by just playing but not everyone can do that. Thus only gamble if you can accept the fact that you might lose your money when you gamble. Otherwise, stay away and forget about gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: carlfebz2 on January 18, 2023, 10:58:08 AM
It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.
Apart from gambling for fun, we also interested in making more profits which is the sole aim why we keep gambling so that we can make more profits from other people's loses. There are some persons that do not have a job and they see gambling as a way out to make extra cash whether to pay bills or do others things just like an employee.
Many of us who is into gambling knows quite well that gambling the something that we know that gambling is not a job but we continue to gamble in order to earn a daily or monthly living so I can gamble because of entertainment myself but I cannot gamble because I want to make money this is the two things that is involved in gambling
Wrong , not all of us are treating gambling as a Job and where to earn money , remember that for you to have this thought? you are not completely Knew what gambling is all about , yeah there are others that completing their lives through gambling but it is very few in which the majority are losing instead of winning and know that from experience .

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on January 18, 2023, 01:11:18 PM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Cling18 on January 18, 2023, 03:22:56 PM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, and how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That's why we are always advised to handle our emotions right because if not, they will be the ones to control us which will result in chaos in the future. We shouldn't let too many emotions drive us when it comes to gambling because, in the first place, we should have known that gambling can take all that we have if we can't deal with its risks.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Pandu Geddon on January 18, 2023, 03:28:40 PM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, and how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That's why we are always advised to handle our emotions right because if not, they will be the ones to control us which will result in chaos in the future. We shouldn't let too many emotions drive us when it comes to gambling because, in the first place, we should have known that gambling can take all that we have if we can't deal with its risks.

I'm sure all gamblers understand the risks. who is not angry or disappointed if you lose a game?
I think all of these attitudes are natural, it's just how we wisely respond to our losses that will make us calmer.
Emotional control may be important, but it's not easy and it's not available to all players in the casino. I see more that players who lose will remain emotional. although some people may be able to suppress their emotions.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: carlfebz2 on January 18, 2023, 10:42:23 PM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, and how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That's why we are always advised to handle our emotions right because if not, they will be the ones to control us which will result in chaos in the future. We shouldn't let too many emotions drive us when it comes to gambling because, in the first place, we should have known that gambling can take all that we have if we can't deal with its risks.

I'm sure all gamblers understand the risks. who is not angry or disappointed if you lose a game?
I think all of these attitudes are natural, it's just how we wisely respond to our losses that will make us calmer.
Emotional control may be important, but it's not easy and it's not available to all players in the casino. I see more that players who lose will remain emotional. although some people may be able to suppress their emotions.
I can really consider myself to be good on suppressing my anger and rage whenever i do get some huge losses on my gambling activity which is something that really differs into each individual and this is why
we do really see different situations but the most common is that people do lost up badly and ending up on bad figure because of gambling or spending too much into it.Yes, its really just needing up some
common sense and it might really be sounding so basic and simple but when you are in the situation then everything turns out to be hard to be handled out which is really not that shocking
anymore.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 18, 2023, 11:14:32 PM
Blackjack is one of the easiest and fast learning games we can find over at casinos. However, this doesn't mean that it is easy to get out some profits when playing it.
It's easy to learn the basics and understand the rules of blackjack and other card games but to become experienced in it is a totally different story. Otherwise, we would see many professional blackjack players and return to point zero where winning will depend purely on luck.

Well that is something that can be a fairly strong experience, in my case when I started playing a lot, I managed to collect 10mBTC, and the truth is that it was very difficult for me to collect it, at the moment I did it I started betting a lot, but with a multiplier of 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, one day I tried 7x and I didn't try that anymore because betting so much really scared me, but in the end it was nothing, because I lost that balance in the dumbest way making bets and bets for 2x
This happens to me all the time. It takes me days to earn some money but losing it all takes few minutes. It doesn't bother me too much, though.
You are by no means the only person on earth who is so constantly "lucky" in gambling.   :)
I think that there are tens and hundreds of millions of such people in the world.  It’s just that some of course can lose earnings in a few days, not in a few minutes, as you wrote, but, say, in an hour or two.  But the meaning of this does not change at all.  Luck in gambling is such a very mysterious thing.  For example, in my life I met a person who was lucky when gambling much more than everyone else.  It was kind of noticeable.  And and constantly.  What kind of phenomenon is this, or does it have some kind of special intuition, this is a mystery of human nature and psychology.  But, yes, such people are rare, but there are. 
And of course there are more of them among professional players, for example, in poker.  And such people, of course, cannot be attributed to those people about whom we are talking in this topic - to the plebs.  And all the rest, probably, these are the same plebs. :)

I also have a friend who has that same light, and I still don't understand how he does it, the most important thing is that he currently does not have a permanent job and does not play, where he is luckier and wins or at least remains in the His first matches is in poker, I don't know how he does it, and when it comes to games it's in pool, in pool he's very good and I don't know, he's lucky enough to do things right, he tells me how to do it, but he doesn't really I can make the plays that he does, he thinks very differently, and I don't understand how he doesn't play because he's quite lucky and it's something he has, but it's very difficult to learn from people like that because as a person you have to change your way of seeing the game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on January 23, 2023, 10:58:52 AM
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I also have a friend who has that same light, and I still don't understand how he does it, the most important thing is that he currently does not have a permanent job and does not play, where he is luckier and wins or at least remains in the His first matches is in poker, I don't know how he does it, and when it comes to games it's in pool, in pool he's very good and I don't know, he's lucky enough to do things right, he tells me how to do it, but he doesn't really I can make the plays that he does, he thinks very differently, and I don't understand how he doesn't play because he's quite lucky and it's something he has, but it's very difficult to learn from people like that because as a person you have to change your way of seeing the game.

If your friend plays poker, then it's understandable because poker is a game of skill, and luck plays insignificant part in it, especially in the long run. Looking from outside, it may seem that he is lucky most the time, but in fact he just knows the probabilities, and that's why he is "lucky". And you are right,  it's very difficult to learn from people like him. I'd say, it's almost impossible without a big deal of experience. But someone who loves poker there is a chance.  ;)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on January 23, 2023, 08:43:51 PM

Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, and how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That's why we are always advised to handle our emotions right because if not, they will be the ones to control us which will result in chaos in the future. We shouldn't let too many emotions drive us when it comes to gambling because, in the first place, we should have known that gambling can take all that we have if we can't deal with its risks.
Emotion is what is capable of killing a man without much anticipation. We need to be strong in anything we are doing so that we will not end up becoming a victim of what we don't know. Let's keep becoming strong even in our deepest fear or weakness. I have had many loses that almost made me to start think unnecessarily but I stood up and try to be a better person and not allow it to bring me down.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on January 24, 2023, 09:34:43 PM

Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, and how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That's why we are always advised to handle our emotions right because if not, they will be the ones to control us which will result in chaos in the future. We shouldn't let too many emotions drive us when it comes to gambling because, in the first place, we should have known that gambling can take all that we have if we can't deal with its risks.
Emotion is what is capable of killing a man without much anticipation. We need to be strong in anything we are doing so that we will not end up becoming a victim of what we don't know. Let's keep becoming strong even in our deepest fear or weakness. I have had many loses that almost made me to start think unnecessarily but I stood up and try to be a better person and not allow it to bring me down.

Yes, emotions are something that we cannot control, but aside from the fact that it is as you say, killing ourselves can also bring us victories, and that is what we must take advantage of, if we can control not killing ourselves, and we can also control and have something of reason at the moment that we do not make bets that we cannot afford, because if we do not have a lot of money and we bet everything and if everything goes wrong, our ability to play has reached that point, if so, our games must be adequate so that we do not make us commit crazy things, and thus take care of ourselves from what we can develop or not.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mauser on January 25, 2023, 08:19:44 AM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That is a good take on the gambling life and how to deal with losses. I would even go a bit further and say that our loss is not only a payment for the pleasure we get from gambling, but also a required loss for the common good of other gamblers. It's clear that we can't be winning all the timing, because then the casino would run out of money and go bankrupt. So maybe it can make us feel a bit better after losing a big game that at least someone else has now the chance to win a lot of money and we helped to build up the jackpot. There needs to be people losing money so that the casino can build up jackpots for some lucky gamblers to win. It's like with a lottery, were 99% of the people need to lose so that there is enough money for the winners to have a decent amount to win. My main motivation behind gambling is that I value a large win much higher than a small loss. It is more likely to lose a higher number of games than we are going to win, that is why the plan is to keep losses as low as possible while having a chance to get a big win eventually. The longer we gamble the harder it becomes to control our emotions. It's important become to heavily invested in every win or lose, because we can't control the outcome of a game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on January 25, 2023, 11:33:49 AM
I generally really like this topic on our favorite forum and I am happy to welcome the OP who opened this topic!!!  :)

But the question always arises in my mind - where is the border of those who play as plebs, and when does it start that the player is no longer playing as plebs?  It seems to me that the standard of living in different countries is so different that just a player moved for a while, for example, from France to India, and starting to play, such a Frenchman from the plebs will immediately become a cool player who cannot be ranked among the army of players at all-  plebes in India.  And there are many such ex :)amples of countries.  Africa alone is worth something.  So the OP still needs to decide what he sees as a plebs/no plebs border.  And for different countries, of course, it is different and can be very different. 
So it's worth discussing this topic here. 
Maybe even write a table of this border. :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 25, 2023, 01:32:35 PM
Emotion is what is capable of killing a man without much anticipation. We need to be strong in anything we are doing so that we will not end up becoming a victim of what we don't know. Let's keep becoming strong even in our deepest fear or weakness. I have had many loses that almost made me to start think unnecessarily but I stood up and try to be a better person and not allow it to bring me down.
Yes, emotions are something that we cannot control, but aside from the fact that it is as you say, killing ourselves can also bring us victories, and that is what we must take advantage of, if we can control not killing ourselves, and we can also control and have something of reason at the moment that we do not make bets that we cannot afford, because if we do not have a lot of money and we bet everything and if everything goes wrong, our ability to play has reached that point, if so, our games must be adequate so that we do not make us commit crazy things, and thus take care of ourselves from what we can develop or not.
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on January 25, 2023, 03:37:07 PM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on January 25, 2023, 09:38:27 PM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.

Suggestions and advice are sometimes very easy to give, I think that a person who has never played in a casino in his life can express an opinion, but things change when the player enters the casino and starts playing, which Long live the adrenaline and start living how things are there, it is not the same to say what to do and bet, a person when he gets very deep into the game if he does not control himself if he can become addicted, what he cannot become addicted to is when You run out of money, and that is what you have to think about before playing, because when you enter a casino what you have to see is what you are going to lose.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dezoel on January 25, 2023, 09:42:22 PM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
But I think each of us already knows this. It only takes a common sense unless if that person still doesn't have that. If so then he is not a normal person anymore. If we are serious on quitting our addiction then we will try even though we know that it seems impossible but there are some who didn't try anymore because they like the feeling of being an addict.

This is bad but what can we do? They choose this path so let them suffer and face their consequences later on. We stop for a while and then return after some time but that was better than not stopping at all. That is what you call a rest. It is essential and only shows that you are still a healthy.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 26, 2023, 02:12:50 AM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on January 26, 2023, 04:56:12 AM
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
self-control to stop gambling is very easy for all gamblers to learn, but what is very difficult is controlling yourself to quit gambling after getting a win. because if a gambler gets a win, of course he will briefly appear greedy to continue his game hoping to get a bigger win, that's very difficult to control. different from controlling oneself to stop gambling. if the gambler has no money i think he will stop gambling.

and one instance when a gambler playing at high House edge bet on Blackjack and had a winning streak and after that he had one loss. he should stop and withdraw his winnings but no, usually gamblers will be greedy and chase those losses.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on January 26, 2023, 03:15:41 PM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 27, 2023, 10:36:59 AM
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
self-control to stop gambling is very easy for all gamblers to learn, but what is very difficult is controlling yourself to quit gambling after getting a win. because if a gambler gets a win, of course he will briefly appear greedy to continue his game hoping to get a bigger win, that's very difficult to control. different from controlling oneself to stop gambling. if the gambler has no money i think he will stop gambling.

and one instance when a gambler playing at high House edge bet on Blackjack and had a winning streak and after that he had one loss. he should stop and withdraw his winnings but no, usually gamblers will be greedy and chase those losses.
Practicing self-control is the most difficult because we always have to do it every time we play gambling so that we become used to being able to limit the time we play it. It may take a long time if we have difficulty controlling ourselves, especially if we have never learned to control ourselves. But by studying seriously, we can control ourselves and won't be tempted by anything if we decide to stop.

Stop playing gambling after a big win is highly recommended for every gambler because they can enjoy the winning money properly and return to the casino whenever they want after enough rest. Don't be too eager to chase another victory because we will have trouble getting it and not every time can we be lucky.

Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.
I always support my friends so they can learn and practice self-control because it's good for them. Even though it's difficult, you have to keep practicing it to get used to stopping yourself from gambling so that you will not experience addiction in the future.

If you can stop for a few minutes, try to do other things that are not related to gambling so that your mind will not think about gambling. It's good always to try because it will train you to control your emotions. It will be very painful to lose all the money at the gambling table, especially if it is your last money. So there is no other way but to learn to control yourself so you can be better.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on January 27, 2023, 12:20:45 PM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.
I always support my friends so they can learn and practice self-control because it's good for them. Even though it's difficult, you have to keep practicing it to get used to stopping yourself from gambling so that you will not experience addiction in the future.

If you can stop for a few minutes, try to do other things that are not related to gambling so that your mind will not think about gambling. It's good always to try because it will train you to control your emotions. It will be very painful to lose all the money at the gambling table, especially if it is your last money. So there is no other way but to learn to control yourself so you can be better.
OK, I thank you for the advice and advice you have said and given me regarding self-control in gambling.
Even though it's difficult and impossible to do, I will try my best, even though I can't completely stop gambling because gambling is one of the ways I use to have fun and entertain myself when I'm tired at work and from gambling I can also get some benefits and lessons on the importance of self-control and managing my finances.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on January 27, 2023, 12:36:04 PM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

There is nothing like "the player" an the psyche of a player, there are many types of players and it is for everyone to choose if they decide to play and it is fun for them or if they are taking psychological hit from it. Save those players that somehow are addicted, the rest can decide to quit if it is becoming too much and is no longer fun. Yes, you pay for a service, like in anything else.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Peanutswar on January 27, 2023, 02:47:11 PM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

There is nothing like "the player" an the psyche of a player, there are many types of players and it is for everyone to choose if they decide to play and it is fun for them or if they are taking psychological hit from it. Save those players that somehow are addicted, the rest can decide to quit if it is becoming too much and is no longer fun. Yes, you pay for a service, like in anything else.

Sometimes peoples choice those players for sure have an experience to earn a good profit or experience a tons of losses there's a purpose why they continuously playing. To those people who win a large amount for sure they are continuously attempting to play more games because they know the possibility of winning again already those people who loses a lot surely they want to urge back their money. Seems like a revenge game sometimes even if they make a comeback getting greedy to play more of their problem.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dothebeats on January 27, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mate2237 on January 27, 2023, 03:43:09 PM
I generally really like this topic on our favorite forum and I am happy to welcome the OP who opened this topic!!!  :)

But the question always arises in my mind - where is the border of those who play as plebs, and when does it start that the player is no longer playing as plebs?  It seems to me that the standard of living in different countries is so different that just a player moved for a while, for example, from France to India, and starting to play, such a Frenchman from the plebs will immediately become a cool player who cannot be ranked among the army of players at all-  plebes in India.  And there are many such ex :)amples of countries.  Africa alone is worth something.  So the OP still needs to decide what he sees as a plebs/no plebs border.  And for different countries, of course, it is different and can be very different. 
So it's worth discussing this topic here. 
Maybe even write a table of this border. :)
Casino does not select it players or customers to play it's games. Both plebs and whales are allowed to play in a casino, plebs can play in any kind of games if the money that is required in the particular slot or games is available.  Plebs are more than the whales on the gambling field of casinos'  ecosystem. There is no boundary between the whales and the plebs.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on January 27, 2023, 09:53:39 PM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

I have committed a lot of imprudence playing, when at first I was learning I thought that if I bet some of my money in a quick way I would get it back, and sometimes I felt that the machine itself knew that I had that money and that they took away my lop, from that I had a level of ignorance, and sometimes some think that gambling only serves to make addicts and train them until they die, but that is not the case, each person knows that they must have their own control and have their own techniques to control not to spend a lot of money and only then be able to enjoy a good time playing and maybe win something.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 28, 2023, 05:15:35 AM
Even though we can't control it, we have to keep trying so we don't lose control when playing gambling. When someone loses control of the gambling game, he will also lose his money faster than he can imagine and this has happened to many people, including us. And as long as we can control the game and ourselves, we will not do things that can harm ourselves, let alone lose a lot of money in gambling, because we will stop before all the money runs out.
The suggestions and advice that you have given are quite good and useful for every gambler.
However, I myself have never found and seen with my own eyes about gamblers who are able to control themselves and stop playing before their money has disappeared by a large amount.
I have also said several times that it is difficult for gamblers to be able to control their games and emai when playing a game or betting because curiosity and the desire to win a game always comes to mind as a gambler, even I experienced it myself.
Indeed we can stop but only for a moment and after that we will continue to play and bet.
I also find it very difficult to control myself because I have experienced it before. If you feel that you have difficulty controlling yourself, you can try to learn to control yourself. There must be a strong desire from within you to be able to control yourself and have the courage to say I have had enough of gambling and must stop immediately. Indeed, it takes time, but that's a way so that you can control yourself when playing gambling and I'm sure some gamblers can really control themselves and stop when they've had enough playing gambling. Try to learn self-control and you will find that you can actually stop whenever you want.
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.
I always support my friends so they can learn and practice self-control because it's good for them. Even though it's difficult, you have to keep practicing it to get used to stopping yourself from gambling so that you will not experience addiction in the future.

If you can stop for a few minutes, try to do other things that are not related to gambling so that your mind will not think about gambling. It's good always to try because it will train you to control your emotions. It will be very painful to lose all the money at the gambling table, especially if it is your last money. So there is no other way but to learn to control yourself so you can be better.
OK, I thank you for the advice and advice you have said and given me regarding self-control in gambling.
Even though it's difficult and impossible to do, I will try my best, even though I can't completely stop gambling because gambling is one of the ways I use to have fun and entertain myself when I'm tired at work and from gambling I can also get some benefits and lessons on the importance of self-control and managing my finances.
You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying. I also can't completely stop gambling, but I'm glad I can now control myself when gambling. When I feel like I've had enough, I will immediately stop and leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to continue gambling again. You can do it too. I believe in you.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on January 28, 2023, 07:19:46 AM
You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying. I also can't completely stop gambling, but I'm glad I can now control myself when gambling. When I feel like I've had enough, I will immediately stop and leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to continue gambling again. You can do it too. I believe in you.
Starting yesterday I have tried it with even stronger determination to be able to control myself in gambling.
One action that I started yesterday was to withdraw all the money in the casino wallet and I only left 30% of the total money I deposited there.
And whatever happens, I will only make a deposit with an even smaller amount and is limited in time, maybe 3 weeks to 1 month, then I will make another deposit if my previous balance has run out.
It's a good idea if when we win and get profits we immediately stop gambling and withdraw some of it with the aim of better controlling and managing finances in the world of gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 28, 2023, 03:12:43 PM
In 2021 I saw a gaming platform but it was of NFT origin, where there were games alluding to trading, there was a bull and a bear, when the player focused on the bull he bet on the high and on the bear the player bet on The baja seemed interesting to me, it was based on futures trading, and it was related to the market and its movements in real time. I wonder if there is any casino that offers this type of game? Of course, I don't know how profitable it is for a casino to take this type of juice, because it already enters more into the knowledge that the person has about the market, how skillful he is to bet on a particular movement.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Dunamisx on January 28, 2023, 03:24:24 PM
Being a plebs doesn't mean we need to get ourselves intimidated in gambling but we must stand to our feet by maintaining only what we can do and know doing well, there's no need of hiding under a covering in pretence when we have no idea about a particular game newly introduced, we have to just learn and improve ourselves and bring down the ego because at the end everyone must have passed through this learning stage, either casino or sport betting doesn't mean as long as you can win and have interest in choosing them, this means we must have a starting ground to build ourselves in gambling before we can have varieties and choice to select when choosing a casino game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on January 28, 2023, 08:11:21 PM
Practicing self-control is the most difficult because we always have to do it every time we play gambling so that we become used to being able to limit the time we play it. It may take a long time if we have difficulty controlling ourselves, especially if we have never learned to control ourselves. But by studying seriously, we can control ourselves and won't be tempted by anything if we decide to stop.

Stop playing gambling after a big win is highly recommended for every gambler because they can enjoy the winning money properly and return to the casino whenever they want after enough rest. Don't be too eager to chase another victory because we will have trouble getting it and not every time can we be lucky.
but if a gambler who has been a gambling addict and decides to stop gambling there are usually several factors, and the most common factor that often occurs is losing a lot of money and valuables. yes, maybe then and there he will no longer gamble and cannot be tempted by anything related to gambling. but when one day he has more money, the desire to gamble again is definitely there and what's worse is that he will return to gambling again. it's really just a matter of thought and commitment.


like I said in the previous reply. to learn self-control to stop gambling is very easy, but controlling yourself to stop and leave the casino when you get a big win is very difficult. because basically humans are greedy and in our brains there is always adrenaline. so that every time we get a big win it's like a challenge and after that we'll keep on betting until we lose money again.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 29, 2023, 06:46:34 AM
You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying. I also can't completely stop gambling, but I'm glad I can now control myself when gambling. When I feel like I've had enough, I will immediately stop and leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to continue gambling again. You can do it too. I believe in you.
Starting yesterday I have tried it with even stronger determination to be able to control myself in gambling.
One action that I started yesterday was to withdraw all the money in the casino wallet and I only left 30% of the total money I deposited there.
And whatever happens, I will only make a deposit with an even smaller amount and is limited in time, maybe 3 weeks to 1 month, then I will make another deposit if my previous balance has run out.
It's a good idea if when we win and get profits we immediately stop gambling and withdraw some of it with the aim of better controlling and managing finances in the world of gambling.
Well, you've done a good thing in learning to control yourself in gambling. I will continue to support you so that you can get even better without having to leave gambling if you can't do it yet. I also did as you did but I left 25% of the total money I had and did not deposit any other amount.

You can do it because you already have a stronger willingness to control yourself in gambling. After you have played enough gambling, leave the casino immediately and don't even think about starting one more round. Whatever the outcome, you must immediately stop gambling. We'll see how it goes in 1 month. I am sure you can do it.

Practicing self-control is the most difficult because we always have to do it every time we play gambling so that we become used to being able to limit the time we play it. It may take a long time if we have difficulty controlling ourselves, especially if we have never learned to control ourselves. But by studying seriously, we can control ourselves and won't be tempted by anything if we decide to stop.

Stop playing gambling after a big win is highly recommended for every gambler because they can enjoy the winning money properly and return to the casino whenever they want after enough rest. Don't be too eager to chase another victory because we will have trouble getting it and not every time can we be lucky.
but if a gambler who has been a gambling addict and decides to stop gambling there are usually several factors, and the most common factor that often occurs is losing a lot of money and valuables. yes, maybe then and there he will no longer gamble and cannot be tempted by anything related to gambling. but when one day he has more money, the desire to gamble again is definitely there and what's worse is that he will return to gambling again. it's really just a matter of thought and commitment.


like I said in the previous reply. to learn self-control to stop gambling is very easy, but controlling yourself to stop and leave the casino when you get a big win is very difficult. because basically humans are greedy and in our brains there is always adrenaline. so that every time we get a big win it's like a challenge and after that we'll keep on betting until we lose money again.
The desire to gamble will indeed exist in that person but if his self-control is very good, he will be able to control himself better. He will not become addicted to gambling again because he has seen the consequences he has experienced before. He must commit to preventing gambling addiction so that he can play comfortably without worrying that he will experience something similar again.

Learning self-control in gambling will never be easy because of greed and wanting more. That is why many people fail to learn it. This is a challenge for us so that we don't experience the same thing as other people and can prevent gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: rodskee on January 29, 2023, 07:22:05 AM

Just like the rest been saying that gambling is for fun and not for money making or making it as a source of income.It is really just that there are people who are really that believing that they could possibly able to do such thing which we know that it is really that impossible.Just mind yourself that you are paying for the enjoyment or entertainment that you do get when you do play gambling.

Losing is always been part and very common because house do always win.If you dont set out that kind of limit towards yourself about dealing with gambling
then you would really be definitely experiencing some issues or unfortunate things to happen later on.
Many times already, in different topics of the "Gambling" section on our forum, there is an obvious idea that losing some of your own, honestly earned, or even not quite honestly earned money, is a payment for the pleasure that the player receives from his game.
It is the awareness of losing money, and how simple it is to pay for this service, that always seriously affects the psychological state of the player and his comfortable state after losing. Sometimes the truth is that the person who gambles wins and then the emotions of the player are of course much more positive. It is worth considering the possibility of such an emotional rise in mood. Well, if you do not treat the lost money as a payment for pleasure, then, indeed, psychological problems may arise when a person begins to reproach himself for stupidity or anxiety. And then he humiliates himself.

And it can completely break the psyche of such a person. Up to very tragic events in his life.

That's why we are always advised to handle our emotions right because if not, they will be the ones to control us which will result in chaos in the future. We shouldn't let too many emotions drive us when it comes to gambling because, in the first place, we should have known that gambling can take all that we have if we can't deal with its risks.
the only Emotion we must bring in gambling is enjoyment and happiness and not that  greedy and self centered because that will surely bring us to losing  there are many people I knew that they keep chasing losses because they cannot take being loser and then what happened?
they continues to lose and even losing everything because of that emotions.
try figuring yourself first before entering casino.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lienfaye on January 29, 2023, 08:22:28 AM
the only Emotion we must bring in gambling is enjoyment and happiness and not that  greedy and self centered because that will surely bring us to losing  there are many people I knew that they keep chasing losses because they cannot take being loser and then what happened?
they continues to lose and even losing everything because of that emotions.
try figuring yourself first before entering casino.
The start of the problem is if you play with high expectation. Due to this you are probably not prepared for the worse case that can happen. Some gamblers are playing even it's not a spare money because they want to grow it instantly and not aware of the risk for doing so.

If you're a pleb, you can still gamble and enjoy the games that can entertain you but don't gamble with an expectation to win because, often, the result that we anticipate is far from what's bound to happen. So just have fun and control yourself to only play within your limits.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on January 29, 2023, 08:43:38 AM
You can do it because you already have a stronger willingness to control yourself in gambling. After you have played enough gambling, leave the casino immediately and don't even think about starting one more round. Whatever the outcome, you must immediately stop gambling. We'll see how it goes in 1 month. I am sure you can do it.
I understand what you mean and this action really needs to be done in order to keep the victory we get from disappearing in an instant as a result of greed and a lack of gratitude for what has been obtained.
In the past, I used to only have a capital of $ 8 playing in one of the games in a trusted casino that I have used since I first gambled at a crypto casino, I managed to win the game round after round for about 90 minutes and was able to collect at least $ 300 more and that it was a fortune for me because indeed the money that I had in the casino's wallet was only $ 8 left.
But because of greed I lost everything and even left the game with no money left.
From that experience I began to learn that every victory we have to withdraw first before it really runs out without anything left.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on January 29, 2023, 12:57:47 PM
Being a plebs doesn't mean we need to get ourselves intimidated in gambling but we must stand to our feet by maintaining only what we can do and know doing well, there's no need of hiding under a covering in pretence when we have no idea about a particular game newly introduced, we have to just learn and improve ourselves and bring down the ego ~

To me all games feel the same, more or less. Those "newly introduced" ones have some slight variations, but they are so small that you don't have to spend your time learning about them.

~ because at the end everyone must have passed through this learning stage, either casino or sport betting doesn't mean as long as you can win and have interest in choosing them, this means we must have a starting ground to build ourselves in gambling before we can have varieties and choice to select when choosing a casino game.

It's a big mistake to think that you can learn how to win in games of pure chance. It's dangerous mistake often leading to gambling addiction. Be careful.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on January 29, 2023, 04:37:50 PM
Practicing self-control is the most difficult because we always have to do it every time we play gambling so that we become used to being able to limit the time we play it. It may take a long time if we have difficulty controlling ourselves, especially if we have never learned to control ourselves. But by studying seriously, we can control ourselves and won't be tempted by anything if we decide to stop.

Stop playing gambling after a big win is highly recommended for every gambler because they can enjoy the winning money properly and return to the casino whenever they want after enough rest. Don't be too eager to chase another victory because we will have trouble getting it and not every time can we be lucky.
but if a gambler who has been a gambling addict and decides to stop gambling there are usually several factors, and the most common factor that often occurs is losing a lot of money and valuables. yes, maybe then and there he will no longer gamble and cannot be tempted by anything related to gambling. but when one day he has more money, the desire to gamble again is definitely there and what's worse is that he will return to gambling again. it's really just a matter of thought and commitment.


like I said in the previous reply. to learn self-control to stop gambling is very easy, but controlling yourself to stop and leave the casino when you get a big win is very difficult. because basically humans are greedy and in our brains there is always adrenaline. so that every time we get a big win it's like a challenge and after that we'll keep on betting until we lose money again.
The desire to gamble will indeed exist in that person but if his self-control is very good, he will be able to control himself better. He will not become addicted to gambling again because he has seen the consequences he has experienced before. He must commit to preventing gambling addiction so that he can play comfortably without worrying that he will experience something similar again.

Learning self-control in gambling will never be easy because of greed and wanting more. That is why many people fail to learn it. This is a challenge for us so that we don't experience the same thing as other people and can prevent gambling addiction.
commitment and self-control, two things that are difficult for gambling addicts.
but usually these two statements can be carried out supported by the encouragement of something that makes gambling addicts able to hold on to commitments and always learn to control themselves. this urge usually comes from gambling stories in a very dark past and deciding to learn to control yourself and always plan a budget on gambling and think of gambling as a game for fun.
even though it was really difficult but I am one example who had a bad past in gambling and now I can commit to gambling and stop being a crazy gambling addict.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 30, 2023, 01:59:34 AM
You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying.
Desire to win?  are you sure that it is controllable ? wrong mate desire in gambling is also depending on what it is , either desire to be instant millionaire or just to enjoy and have fun.
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I also can't completely stop gambling, but I'm glad I can now control myself when gambling. When I feel like I've had enough, I will immediately stop and leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to continue gambling again. You can do it too. I believe in you.

I have completely allow myself to play or not , and indeed I can control my desire in gambling , and also I can stand in table while winning .


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 30, 2023, 06:54:36 AM
You can do it because you already have a stronger willingness to control yourself in gambling. After you have played enough gambling, leave the casino immediately and don't even think about starting one more round. Whatever the outcome, you must immediately stop gambling. We'll see how it goes in 1 month. I am sure you can do it.
I understand what you mean and this action really needs to be done in order to keep the victory we get from disappearing in an instant as a result of greed and a lack of gratitude for what has been obtained.
In the past, I used to only have a capital of $ 8 playing in one of the games in a trusted casino that I have used since I first gambled at a crypto casino, I managed to win the game round after round for about 90 minutes and was able to collect at least $ 300 more and that it was a fortune for me because indeed the money that I had in the casino's wallet was only $ 8 left.
But because of greed I lost everything and even left the game with no money left.
From that experience I began to learn that every victory we have to withdraw first before it really runs out without anything left.
In the past, we had great luck at gambling which allowed us to earn a lot of money and I think that also happened to many gamblers. And I agree with you that greed can arise after we can get a lot of money so it will trigger us to keep playing and ultimately lose everything. And again, that has happened to many people and even today, greed still happens to people. It's better to withdraw that big win before we spend it at the gambling table because greed comes.

The desire to gamble will indeed exist in that person but if his self-control is very good, he will be able to control himself better. He will not become addicted to gambling again because he has seen the consequences he has experienced before. He must commit to preventing gambling addiction so that he can play comfortably without worrying that he will experience something similar again.

Learning self-control in gambling will never be easy because of greed and wanting more. That is why many people fail to learn it. This is a challenge for us so that we don't experience the same thing as other people and can prevent gambling addiction.
commitment and self-control, two things that are difficult for gambling addicts.
but usually these two statements can be carried out supported by the encouragement of something that makes gambling addicts able to hold on to commitments and always learn to control themselves. this urge usually comes from gambling stories in a very dark past and deciding to learn to control yourself and always plan a budget on gambling and think of gambling as a game for fun.
even though it was really difficult but I am one example who had a bad past in gambling and now I can commit to gambling and stop being a crazy gambling addict.
Indeed, commitment and self-control are difficult things, but it all depends on the gambler. To improve his life, he must have a strong desire to change it and consistently stick to it. If he didn't start now, when else would he be able to start it and if he started it late, he would have a hard time trying it. And ultimately, he will fail to learn about commitment and self-control. If you want, do it now before you regret it later.

You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying.
Desire to win?  are you sure that it is controllable ? wrong mate desire in gambling is also depending on what it is , either desire to be instant millionaire or just to enjoy and have fun.
Did I say the desire to win? I said a strong desire to control ourselves. Please understand again. And I'm sure the "desire to win" that you said can be controlled. Oh yes, have you tried it yourself? How many times have you tried it?

If it's a desire to become an instant millionaire, you better change that desire ;P


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on January 30, 2023, 07:10:41 AM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively.


It's DOPAMINE. There was a study that people addicted to gambling, sex, and drugs showed the same patterns under MRI.

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It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.


It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.

It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: BenCodie on January 30, 2023, 07:22:05 AM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 30, 2023, 07:41:49 AM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.
For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on January 30, 2023, 07:46:27 AM
The desire to gamble will indeed exist in that person but if his self-control is very good, he will be able to control himself better. He will not become addicted to gambling again because he has seen the consequences he has experienced before. He must commit to preventing gambling addiction so that he can play comfortably without worrying that he will experience something similar again.

Learning self-control in gambling will never be easy because of greed and wanting more. That is why many people fail to learn it. This is a challenge for us so that we don't experience the same thing as other people and can prevent gambling addiction.
commitment and self-control, two things that are difficult for gambling addicts.
but usually these two statements can be carried out supported by the encouragement of something that makes gambling addicts able to hold on to commitments and always learn to control themselves. this urge usually comes from gambling stories in a very dark past and deciding to learn to control yourself and always plan a budget on gambling and think of gambling as a game for fun.
even though it was really difficult but I am one example who had a bad past in gambling and now I can commit to gambling and stop being a crazy gambling addict.
Indeed, commitment and self-control are difficult things, but it all depends on the gambler. To improve his life, he must have a strong desire to change it and consistently stick to it. If he didn't start now, when else would he be able to start it and if he started it late, he would have a hard time trying it. And ultimately, he will fail to learn about commitment and self-control. If you want, do it now before you regret it later.
as i said in previous reply it is going to be very difficult for too crazy gambling addicts. because the gambling addict who has gone crazy in gambling never thinks about anything, all he thinks about is gambling and gambling.
no matter how many people would advise him to stop gambling and try to learn self-control. i have a few examples.

in my city there was a gambler who was crazy in gambling, until he sold all valuables and after that sold his friend's belongings, until what was worse he stole cars just to gamble.
well, in cases like that I mean it will be much more difficult to learn self-control.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on January 30, 2023, 07:55:27 AM
You can do it because you already have a stronger willingness to control yourself in gambling. After you have played enough gambling, leave the casino immediately and don't even think about starting one more round. Whatever the outcome, you must immediately stop gambling. We'll see how it goes in 1 month. I am sure you can do it.
I understand what you mean and this action really needs to be done in order to keep the victory we get from disappearing in an instant as a result of greed and a lack of gratitude for what has been obtained.
In the past, I used to only have a capital of $ 8 playing in one of the games in a trusted casino that I have used since I first gambled at a crypto casino, I managed to win the game round after round for about 90 minutes and was able to collect at least $ 300 more and that it was a fortune for me because indeed the money that I had in the casino's wallet was only $ 8 left.
But because of greed I lost everything and even left the game with no money left.
From that experience I began to learn that every victory we have to withdraw first before it really runs out without anything left.
In the past, we had great luck at gambling which allowed us to earn a lot of money and I think that also happened to many gamblers. And I agree with you that greed can arise after we can get a lot of money so it will trigger us to keep playing and ultimately lose everything. And again, that has happened to many people and even today, greed still happens to people. It's better to withdraw that big win before we spend it at the gambling table because greed comes.
Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: BenCodie on January 30, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.
For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on January 30, 2023, 11:35:54 PM
You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying.
Desire to win?  are you sure that it is controllable ? wrong mate desire in gambling is also depending on what it is , either desire to be instant millionaire or just to enjoy and have fun.
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I also can't completely stop gambling, but I'm glad I can now control myself when gambling. When I feel like I've had enough, I will immediately stop and leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to continue gambling again. You can do it too. I believe in you.

I have completely allow myself to play or not , and indeed I can control my desire in gambling , and also I can stand in table while winning .
Controlling your desire in gambling is a very important aspect that we need to consider or else we might end up taking the wrong part. There are some persons that do not have a job or have a job but depend on gambling for survival. We need to make sure even with our different problems to ensure we control our urge not to become a chronic gambler.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2023, 07:00:19 AM
as i said in previous reply it is going to be very difficult for too crazy gambling addicts. because the gambling addict who has gone crazy in gambling never thinks about anything, all he thinks about is gambling and gambling.
no matter how many people would advise him to stop gambling and try to learn self-control. i have a few examples.

in my city there was a gambler who was crazy in gambling, until he sold all valuables and after that sold his friend's belongings, until what was worse he stole cars just to gamble.
well, in cases like that I mean it will be much more difficult to learn self-control.
It's a shame that no one can awaken these crazy gamblers because they are already experiencing a very severe gambling addiction and don't want to change in a better direction. People like this should get more help and attention, but we also can't do anything about it because they themselves don't want that help.

If that were the case, learning self-control would be more difficult for him because he did not want to change his life. But before it's too late, they already know that he has seeds of gambling addiction and must cure it before everything gets worse.

Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.
That's why we really have to have or learn self-control so that we can control that greed doesn't get bigger and, in the end, it will destroy our lives in gambling. However difficult it is, we must always control ourselves when playing gambling so that we can stop ourselves when we have won a big win.

We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on January 31, 2023, 07:54:00 PM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.
For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

I am clear that the game in casinos one can never beat the house, the house always has the advantage and the games themselves are designed to always have an advantage over the house (another advantage aside) that is known, therefore When we decide to have action with a casino, what we should keep in mind is that not everything is like gold, that all that glitters is gold, no, things can be very nice here but the reality is different, besides a casino It cannot become an ATM, people who win once are because they are very lucky or because they have lost many times.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on February 02, 2023, 12:49:51 AM

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We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.


at this point, sometimes when a gambler has started to feel the seeds of addiction in him starting to feel, he will immediately stop gambling or only control every budget he wants to bet on.
but if a gambler already feels that there are seeds of gambling addiction and chooses to commit to always planning a budget for gambling, usually he will not stop gambling, in fact he will gamble more often, only with a predetermined budget and when he loses he leaves the casino and does not continue gambling

like my own case in the past I felt there were seeds of addiction and I didn't choose to leave gambling but preferred to keep gambling but only committed to a budget plan for gambling. even though i lost and ran out of budget, i quit and came back the next day and that's what i've done to this day.
so at this point I say that I have not completely been able to stop gambling addicts


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 02, 2023, 02:27:14 AM

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We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.
at this point, sometimes when a gambler has started to feel the seeds of addiction in him starting to feel, he will immediately stop gambling or only control every budget he wants to bet on.
but if a gambler already feels that there are seeds of gambling addiction and chooses to commit to always planning a budget for gambling, usually he will not stop gambling, in fact he will gamble more often, only with a predetermined budget and when he loses he leaves the casino and does not continue gambling

like my own case in the past I felt there were seeds of addiction and I didn't choose to leave gambling but preferred to keep gambling but only committed to a budget plan for gambling. even though i lost and ran out of budget, i quit and came back the next day and that's what i've done to this day.
so at this point I say that I have not completely been able to stop gambling addicts
As long as he can have good self-control, I think he can still control himself in gambling and with the budget, he has made before, he can also enjoy gambling time. We must hold on to commitment whenever we gamble and never cross the boundaries we have made to survive well and not experience any problems in gambling.

I think many of us have had the same experience as you and I know there are still many people trying to commit to avoid any problems. This is hard to do, but we have to do it if we don't want to experience problems like gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: rodskee on February 02, 2023, 06:53:10 AM
the only Emotion we must bring in gambling is enjoyment and happiness and not that  greedy and self centered because that will surely bring us to losing  there are many people I knew that they keep chasing losses because they cannot take being loser and then what happened?
they continues to lose and even losing everything because of that emotions.
try figuring yourself first before entering casino.
The start of the problem is if you play with high expectation. Due to this you are probably not prepared for the worse case that can happen. Some gamblers are playing even it's not a spare money because they want to grow it instantly and not aware of the risk for doing so.
it is ok to expect higher but also learn how to accept defeat because this is the main problem here , many of us only wanted to win in gambling but does not consider that losing is what mostly happens and wins are just a bit.
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If you're a pleb, you can still gamble and enjoy the games that can entertain you but don't gamble with an expectation to win because, often, the result that we anticipate is far from what's bound to happen. So just have fun and control yourself to only play within your limits.
wrong, winning is part of gambling and only stupid people does not expect this whenever they played , but this is not how it works ,try to expect win and also try to listen to losses.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on February 02, 2023, 12:27:03 PM


Though I agree that it's a good idea to set aside money specifically for gambling, I also think it's crucial to have some kind of accountability mechanism in place to ensure that you don't end up gambling away all your savings. Having someone to confide in and keep you responsible may be invaluable in preventing a slide into addiction, whether it's a friend, family member, or a group of people sharing the same goals.

Moreover, it's incredible that despite having failures, you've managed to stay to your budget and not let addiction take over. That's a powerful display of resolve, and I have no doubt that you'll keep making progress along your chosen path.

It's also crucial to note that if you ever find yourself struggling with a temptation to gamble that seems out of control, it's time to get some professional assistance. Counseling and support groups are just two examples of the various options accessible to those who are ready to get their lives back on track after struggling with addiction.
The problem is that a player who is highly addicted to gambling can of course try to set himself limits on money to lose, for example, per day or per week. 
But as soon as he loses so that the money set by the limit runs out, he immediately begins to experience extreme discomfort.  And he starts to come up with something, like that the next day the limit will make itself smaller.
 And still continues to bet.  I think a lot of people who are heavily addicted to gambling simply can't stop with something as simple as setting individual limits on losing.  Or there must be absolutely iron, steel willpower.
 With a strong addiction, you still cannot do without the help of specialists, doctors and psychologists. 
Possibly psychotropic drugs.  But this is only by prescription of doctors.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on February 02, 2023, 10:27:30 PM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.


For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

Like smoking, not all people are equally affected or driven towards the same issues when gambling. Some just do it for fun and have plenty of control abouit what they do an how much they spend. So, the games do not matter as much as the person who is making conscious decisions or becoming somehow carried away by the game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 02, 2023, 10:52:12 PM


Though I agree that it's a good idea to set aside money specifically for gambling, I also think it's crucial to have some kind of accountability mechanism in place to ensure that you don't end up gambling away all your savings. Having someone to confide in and keep you responsible may be invaluable in preventing a slide into addiction, whether it's a friend, family member, or a group of people sharing the same goals.

Moreover, it's incredible that despite having failures, you've managed to stay to your budget and not let addiction take over. That's a powerful display of resolve, and I have no doubt that you'll keep making progress along your chosen path.

It's also crucial to note that if you ever find yourself struggling with a temptation to gamble that seems out of control, it's time to get some professional assistance. Counseling and support groups are just two examples of the various options accessible to those who are ready to get their lives back on track after struggling with addiction.
The problem is that a player who is highly addicted to gambling can of course try to set himself limits on money to lose, for example, per day or per week. 
But as soon as he loses so that the money set by the limit runs out, he immediately begins to experience extreme discomfort.  And he starts to come up with something, like that the next day the limit will make itself smaller.
 And still continues to bet.  I think a lot of people who are heavily addicted to gambling simply can't stop with something as simple as setting individual limits on losing.  Or there must be absolutely iron, steel willpower.
 With a strong addiction, you still cannot do without the help of specialists, doctors and psychologists. 
Possibly psychotropic drugs.  But this is only by prescription of doctors.

When I play I think that the worst thing is to fall into addiction, for these reasons I don't play much, and I am afraid of losing money, so I am always very careful, when I deposit in a casino it is not a lot of money, but I divide it so that I can play several days, and as I am always looking for casinos where they offer good promotions, sometimes I am entertained and the money is there in the casino, the fact of having diversity in casinos can encourage addiction, that would be advice for others Yes players, I don't have a lot of experience but as long as I can avoid addiction to people it is a way of contributing so that they don't fall for it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on February 04, 2023, 01:55:38 PM

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Though I agree that it's a good idea to set aside money specifically for gambling, I also think it's crucial to have some kind of accountability mechanism in place to ensure that you don't end up gambling away all your savings. Having someone to confide in and keep you responsible may be invaluable in preventing a slide into addiction, whether it's a friend, family member, or a group of people sharing the same goals.

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what you say is absolutely true and that is what I experienced before when I was crushed at gambling.
I once told a long story in one of the threads on this gambling about my past destruction when I became a crazy gambler. but long story short everything changed when I was completely devastated when I wasn't married. and I'm trying to get married and stay away from gambling and the result is that I keep coming back to gambling, but it's different from before when I'm currently gambling more committed to the budget that I have set and every time I gamble there is a wife who says "remember, just spend the rest of the money ". so indirectly my self-control on addiction is more awake with the presence of a wife who supports me, always gives advice when I'm betting. so that there is no more chance to become a crazy gambling addict.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on February 05, 2023, 09:56:25 AM
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It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.

It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.

And probably also it's the same with any other risky activity that can potentially give you a big reward. Those are the tricks our mind plays with us. The thing is that our brain has not changed since tens of thousands of years ago, and this behaviour, always taking the risk to potentially get something big, was the right one for our survival for many thousand of years because there were no slot machines, no crypto trading, and we, humans, rarely had this opportunity to get a fortune of a lifetime within one day.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: o48o on February 05, 2023, 07:43:46 PM
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It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.
It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.
That's correct. But need for dopamine so hard coded into us that quitting smoking was easier then now chasing a new rush.
I think i've found a way to control mine now. It sounds silly but it's just sticking into basics and routine. When basics are in check i can treat myself with gambling.

And by basics i mean i manage my budget, exercise, work, eat healthy, sleep more and do work for my relationships. When those are in check i am less addicted to that rush.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 07, 2023, 03:18:37 AM
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I also have a friend who has that same light, and I still don't understand how he does it, the most important thing is that he currently does not have a permanent job and does not play, where he is luckier and wins or at least remains in the His first matches is in poker, I don't know how he does it, and when it comes to games it's in pool, in pool he's very good and I don't know, he's lucky enough to do things right, he tells me how to do it, but he doesn't really I can make the plays that he does, he thinks very differently, and I don't understand how he doesn't play because he's quite lucky and it's something he has, but it's very difficult to learn from people like that because as a person you have to change your way of seeing the game.

If your friend plays poker, then it's understandable because poker is a game of skill, and luck plays insignificant part in it, especially in the long run. Looking from outside, it may seem that he is lucky most the time, but in fact he just knows the probabilities, and that's why he is "lucky". And you are right,  it's very difficult to learn from people like him. I'd say, it's almost impossible without a big deal of experience. But someone who loves poker there is a chance.  ;)

That's the way it is, I think he uses probabilities, and the worst thing is that he's not someone who's going to play it, I know that he uses a lot of some abilities that he has, I thought he was just lucky, one of the things he told me is that he Sometimes he assumed that such a player had such a game, and that made him very eager to play a bet or to do something like assuming such a thing, however what strikes me is that the knowledge is such that it assures me that when He always plays, he wins something, if he doesn't come first, he comes in at least 3rd place, he tells me that now there aren't as many games as before, poker tournaments, and that's something that has made him stop playing games of chance a lot.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Warkop on February 07, 2023, 03:45:32 AM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.
For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

I am clear that the game in casinos one can never beat the house, the house always has the advantage and the games themselves are designed to always have an advantage over the house (another advantage aside) that is known, therefore When we decide to have action with a casino, what we should keep in mind is that not everything is like gold, that all that glitters is gold, no, things can be very nice here but the reality is different, besides a casino It cannot become an ATM, people who win once are because they are very lucky or because they have lost many times.


Correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I know, playing Casino is an interesting thing, but there are things we should avoid, namely the desire to play with large amounts of money, and that risks losing or vice versa, even if only a few percent of the winnings are obtained, it's the same amount.  the losses you get will be even bigger than the winnings, of course it won't be balanced, because the system has been designed to give victory to users in winning, so it's the same as our brains are forced to fight the machine, in my opinion that's what must be avoided  gamblers to play with big capital, it's better to play just for fun than to play with ambition..


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Strongkored on February 07, 2023, 04:28:45 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I know, playing Casino is an interesting thing, but there are things we should avoid, namely the desire to play with large amounts of money, and that risks losing or vice versa, even if only a few percent of the winnings are obtained, it's the same amount.  the losses you get will be even bigger than the winnings, of course it won't be balanced, because the system has been designed to give victory to users in winning, so it's the same as our brains are forced to fight the machine, in my opinion that's what must be avoided  gamblers to play with big capital, it's better to play just for fun than to play with ambition..
Not entirely true because the amount of bets used by players to gamble should be based on each other's abilities, if he can afford a large amount why not, even a high roller is unlikely to lower his bet just because fear of loss, if you can only afford a small amount then use it and don't be tempted when you see someone winning big amount because the value of the bet also affects the profit would get.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on February 07, 2023, 06:04:20 AM
Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.
That's why we really have to have or learn self-control so that we can control that greed doesn't get bigger and, in the end, it will destroy our lives in gambling. However difficult it is, we must always control ourselves when playing gambling so that we can stop ourselves when we have won a big win.

We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.


Maybe there are several ways to avoid greed, namely by setting a time limit while playing like we are playing and have set a time for 1 hour in the casino to play and after the time runs out whether we experience defeat or victory we have to get out of the casino and immediately do the appropriate activities. more positive like working or doing something that is indeed our obligation, but can someone do that to be able to restrain themselves and to avoid greed when gambling.
Yes, it seems that it is indeed difficult to do so that you can really stop and not be addicted to gambling anymore. If there is a foundation that can do rehabilitation for gambling addicts, it might be very helpful for those who want to stop gambling properly.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on February 07, 2023, 12:29:49 PM
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It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.

It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.

And probably also it's the same with any other risky activity that can potentially give you a big reward. Those are the tricks our mind plays with us. The thing is that our brain has not changed since tens of thousands of years ago, and this behaviour, always taking the risk to potentially get something big, was the right one for our survival for many thousand of years because there were no slot machines, no crypto trading, and we, humans, rarely had this opportunity to get a fortune of a lifetime within one day.


Casinos should probably hire scientists to study human behavior concerning risks and dopamine release. 8)

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It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.
It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.
That's correct. But need for dopamine so hard coded into us that quitting smoking was easier then now chasing a new rush.
I think i've found a way to control mine now. It sounds silly but it's just sticking into basics and routine. When basics are in check i can treat myself with gambling.

And by basics i mean i manage my budget, exercise, work, eat healthy, sleep more and do work for my relationships. When those are in check i am less addicted to that rush.


It will probably just take one losing streak in one night of gambling to feel the need for the rush and the dopamine release again. Because there are more times when a person plays longer when he/she is losing than those times when he/she needs to stop for the day. Ironically we only stop for the day when we are winning small.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 07, 2023, 12:34:53 PM
Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.
That's why we really have to have or learn self-control so that we can control that greed doesn't get bigger and, in the end, it will destroy our lives in gambling. However difficult it is, we must always control ourselves when playing gambling so that we can stop ourselves when we have won a big win.

We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.
Maybe there are several ways to avoid greed, namely by setting a time limit while playing like we are playing and have set a time for 1 hour in the casino to play and after the time runs out whether we experience defeat or victory we have to get out of the casino and immediately do the appropriate activities. more positive like working or doing something that is indeed our obligation, but can someone do that to be able to restrain themselves and to avoid greed when gambling.
Yes, it seems that it is indeed difficult to do so that you can really stop and not be addicted to gambling anymore. If there is a foundation that can do rehabilitation for gambling addicts, it might be very helpful for those who want to stop gambling properly.
We can use your suggestion on the condition that we must have high discipline because we know that the temptations from casinos are very great and easily tempts many people. By strong self-discipline, we can overcome the greed that may arise after we gamble. But by continuing to practice to have self-discipline, we can overcome this greed and be able to play gambling while enjoying playing time.

If you really want to stop, you must have a strong intention to stop because gambling addiction has made you suffer and lose a lot of money, maybe even everything. Maybe around us, there are rehabilitation centers for people addicted to gambling that we can search through social media or local newspapers so they can help us to solve this gambling problem.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 07, 2023, 04:52:09 PM
Greed and some other feelings that we can see as dark is only what we can see in a casino and its people, just as there are people who have good vibes, it can also be said that when you play in a casino you can have many ideas , but what is sought in a casino is that they can win more easily, and many players start looking in any casino for the way to have more options where they do not lose their money so easily, what they always seek to have is good discipline to be able to have a different attitude in the game and with that to be able to stop the way of losing, a player who does that can be considered that he is looking for the best for himself.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hamphser on February 07, 2023, 08:54:13 PM
Greed and some other feelings that we can see as dark is only what we can see in a casino and its people, just as there are people who have good vibes, it can also be said that when you play in a casino you can have many ideas , but what is sought in a casino is that they can win more easily, and many players start looking in any casino for the way to have more options where they do not lose their money so easily, what they always seek to have is good discipline to be able to have a different attitude in the game and with that to be able to stop the way of losing, a player who does that can be considered that he is looking for the best for himself.

Actually losing is really that be a part on the time that you would really be tending to play into a casino or gambling games.It is really just a matter on how someone is really be that accepting their fate or how to

make themselves able to accept out that they are really that bound to lose.Winning is just a bonus and if you do stick this kind of idea or mindset then you wont really be that impulsive on making yourself that play
or really be that desperate when it comes to your gambling approach.Gambling is for fun and whether we do make use of small or big money as long we are aware into its typical risks
then it should really be fine.It is really on someones right and choice on what they would be making.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 07, 2023, 09:14:07 PM
Greed and some other feelings that we can see as dark is only what we can see in a casino and its people, just as there are people who have good vibes, it can also be said that when you play in a casino you can have many ideas , but what is sought in a casino is that they can win more easily, and many players start looking in any casino for the way to have more options where they do not lose their money so easily, what they always seek to have is good discipline to be able to have a different attitude in the game and with that to be able to stop the way of losing, a player who does that can be considered that he is looking for the best for himself.

Gambling is a game between the casino and the gambler, do not forget that the casino itself is also in the game to make profit, that is, win over the gambler, while the gambler on the other hand is also trying to make profit by winning over the casino.
So in a fight as this, I believe we all already know which that stands the higher chance at winning - and that is the casino, though some few gamblers still get lucky from time to time to win against the casino, but as long as they keep playing, there is still a high chance that the casino will still win back their money.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dezoel on February 07, 2023, 09:24:31 PM
I still think that slots are a lot better to "plebs" like us because it is both fun, and it could shock you and give you a better return. Doesn't mean that it will happen, maybe it won't happen and you will lose, most probably you will lose but isn't that for all games? I mean gambling is a net negative in the end, house always wins, which means that whatever you gamble you will lose, doesn't matter what game.

However, if you have a chance to win very big, at least you could take some of that out, and yeah casinos win on the long run, but they could lose 100 to you and earn 200 from others, which means you could get lucky with some slot chances, which is why I like it so much.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on February 08, 2023, 02:11:44 PM
Greed and some other feelings that we can see as dark is only what we can see in a casino and its people, just as there are people who have good vibes, it can also be said that when you play in a casino you can have many ideas , but what is sought in a casino is that they can win more easily, and many players start looking in any casino for the way to have more options where they do not lose their money so easily, what they always seek to have is good discipline to be able to have a different attitude in the game and with that to be able to stop the way of losing, a player who does that can be considered that he is looking for the best for himself.

Gambling is a game between the casino and the gambler, do not forget that the casino itself is also in the game to make profit, that is, win over the gambler, while the gambler on the other hand is also trying to make profit by winning over the casino.
So in a fight as this, I believe we all already know which that stands the higher chance at winning - and that is the casino, though some few gamblers still get lucky from time to time to win against the casino, but as long as they keep playing, there is still a high chance that the casino will still win back their money.
Here in this topic I love, all of you colleagues argue that the casino always wins.  Of course, in the long run, the casino will definitely win money from the players.  That's probably all these players who have fun, make bets, then lose, worry, get upset, sad.  And if they win, they rejoice, just like small children.  And they continue to play.  And they lose what they won completely.  That's all that I have described and is the criterion by which players can be ranked among the multi-million dollar army of plebs.  And in this I even see a lot of good.  Because all such games are fun and entertainment.  Even despite the loss of money, which all the players of the plebs of course appreciate only as an inevitable price for this fun of the game.  Long live the millions of plebs players.  With them, our world itself becomes more interesting and more fun!!! :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on February 08, 2023, 05:56:56 PM
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That's the way it is, I think he uses probabilities, and the worst thing is that he's not someone who's going to play it, I know that he uses a lot of some abilities that he has, I thought he was just lucky, one of the things he told me is that he Sometimes he assumed that such a player had such a game, and that made him very eager to play a bet or to do something like assuming such a thing, however what strikes me is that the knowledge is such that it assures me that when He always plays, he wins something, if he doesn't come first, he comes in at least 3rd place, he tells me that now there aren't as many games as before, poker tournaments, and that's something that has made him stop playing games of chance a lot.


There are poker sites, or other gambling sites with poker tables,  where tournaments are going non-stop, several of them at the same time in some places. Stopping playing games of chance is one thing, but poker is not a game of chance according to many gamblers, and I agree with them mainly. Your friend has those skills that are reuired for playing poker successfully, and I think he stopped maybe because he wanted a break, not because he couldn't find a site with active poker tournaments.

And probably also it's the same with any other risky activity that can potentially give you a big reward. Those are the tricks our mind plays with us. The thing is that our brain has not changed since tens of thousands of years ago, and this behaviour, always taking the risk to potentially get something big, was the right one for our survival for many thousand of years because there were no slot machines, no crypto trading, and we, humans, rarely had this opportunity to get a fortune of a lifetime within one day.

Casinos should probably hire scientists to study human behavior concerning risks and dopamine release. 8)

I don't know about casinos, but the results of such study would be interesting to see for millions of people on YouTube. That's what I'm sure of.  8)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: sunsilk on February 08, 2023, 06:10:36 PM
I still think that slots are a lot better to "plebs" like us because it is both fun, and it could shock you and give you a better return. Doesn't mean that it will happen, maybe it won't happen and you will lose, most probably you will lose but isn't that for all games? I mean gambling is a net negative in the end, house always wins, which means that whatever you gamble you will lose, doesn't matter what game.

However, if you have a chance to win very big, at least you could take some of that out, and yeah casinos win on the long run, but they could lose 100 to you and earn 200 from others, which means you could get lucky with some slot chances, which is why I like it so much.
You're right that it is applicable to most games. Well, plebs like us can play anything that we want and I'm more with the sports betting but still does some casino games.

But true to it that whatever we choose, we all know what shall happen if we're not too good in securing profits if we're already winning. That's the right thing to do whether you play slots, sports betting or any other casino games. We all want to end taking some cash as we go home.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on February 11, 2023, 03:52:15 PM
I still think that slots are a lot better to "plebs" like us because it is both fun, and it could shock you and give you a better return. Doesn't mean that it will happen, maybe it won't happen and you will lose, most probably you will lose but isn't that for all games? I mean gambling is a net negative in the end, house always wins, which means that whatever you gamble you will lose, doesn't matter what game.

However, if you have a chance to win very big, at least you could take some of that out, and yeah casinos win on the long run, but they could lose 100 to you and earn 200 from others, which means you could get lucky with some slot chances, which is why I like it so much.
but this statement can be reversed so what if you lose many times in slot games?
because as far as I know slot games will quickly eat up your money when a bad day is on your side. I mean if you are unlucky sometimes in slot games we never get a good multiplier and we keep on spin until your funds are gone.
I have experienced this before playing Slots never getting good returns after that my bankroll ran out.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Sylviergi on February 12, 2023, 04:25:18 PM
Did you guys see the million-dollar race tournament on fairspin?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Varic on February 12, 2023, 04:31:13 PM
Did you guys see the million-dollar race tournament on fairspin?
I’ve played there for some time but stopped a few years ago. Is there a point in going back?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Contan on February 12, 2023, 04:34:24 PM
Did you guys see the million-dollar race tournament on fairspin?
I’ve played there for some time but stopped a few years ago. Is there a point in going back?
They’re giving away so many bonuses at the moment, especially in the tournament. I just got an additional $50 to my deposit.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Sylviergi on February 12, 2023, 04:41:54 PM
Did you guys see the million-dollar race tournament on fairspin?
I’ve played there for some time but stopped a few years ago. Is there a point in going back?
Yeah, it makes sense to start playing again man. They are giving away a lot of bonuses this year, so you have more chances of winning something.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Varic on February 12, 2023, 04:44:22 PM
Sounds good. What’s the minimum deposit to get something?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Contan on February 12, 2023, 04:54:40 PM
Sounds good. What’s the minimum deposit to get something?
Around $100 minimum.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Varic on February 12, 2023, 05:01:06 PM
Sounds good. What’s the minimum deposit to get something?
Around $100 minimum.
Not bad, I should give it a go. Thanks!


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Coin_trader on February 12, 2023, 05:49:14 PM
Did you guys see the million-dollar race tournament on fairspin?

I’ve played there for some time but stopped a few years ago. Is there a point in going back?

Around $100 minimum.

Nice try in trying a fake conversation using multi account just to shill a casino. Your post pattern on making shit post on off-topic and gambling topics just to have a post history exposed what gimmick on shilling casino through a manipulated discussion. This is not allowed in the forum.




To all plebs player like me, Try craps and bet only with fixed amount on one number. Winning a bet on craps is like winning a Blackjack hand due to its high pay rate.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on February 13, 2023, 02:12:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I know, playing Casino is an interesting thing, but there are things we should avoid, namely the desire to play with large amounts of money, and that risks losing or vice versa, even if only a few percent of the winnings are obtained, it's the same amount.  the losses you get will be even bigger than the winnings, of course it won't be balanced, because the system has been designed to give victory to users in winning, so it's the same as our brains are forced to fight the machine, in my opinion that's what must be avoided  gamblers to play with big capital, it's better to play just for fun than to play with ambition..
Not entirely true because the amount of bets used by players to gamble should be based on each other's abilities, if he can afford a large amount why not, even a high roller is unlikely to lower his bet just because fear of loss, if you can only afford a small amount then use it and don't be tempted when you see someone winning big amount because the value of the bet also affects the profit would get.
There are gamblers that could gamble with big amount of money that is why they are not bother losing because with the kind of fund, they can easily make huge amount of profits that. Shock ma y of us on how they take there risks. There are some casino games thqt are not that know but can have a high percentage of winnings if we take it so paramount.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: sunsilk on February 13, 2023, 04:28:58 PM
Just going through on this thread and it seems became a chat conversation for these accounts. But you can't just fool everyone with that type of conversation as if you're going to make anyone easy to believe you guys.

Having that introduction and exposure to the fs casino won't make significant changes and attraction to the gamblers that are seeing on how you fake that conversation. Before there were too many gullible folks watching a thread but not anymore today.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Blitzboy on February 13, 2023, 08:07:08 PM
Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.
That's why we really have to have or learn self-control so that we can control that greed doesn't get bigger and, in the end, it will destroy our lives in gambling. However difficult it is, we must always control ourselves when playing gambling so that we can stop ourselves when we have won a big win.

We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.
Maybe there are several ways to avoid greed, namely by setting a time limit while playing like we are playing and have set a time for 1 hour in the casino to play and after the time runs out whether we experience defeat or victory we have to get out of the casino and immediately do the appropriate activities. more positive like working or doing something that is indeed our obligation, but can someone do that to be able to restrain themselves and to avoid greed when gambling.
Yes, it seems that it is indeed difficult to do so that you can really stop and not be addicted to gambling anymore. If there is a foundation that can do rehabilitation for gambling addicts, it might be very helpful for those who want to stop gambling properly.
We can use your suggestion on the condition that we must have high discipline because we know that the temptations from casinos are very great and easily tempts many people. By strong self-discipline, we can overcome the greed that may arise after we gamble. But by continuing to practice to have self-discipline, we can overcome this greed and be able to play gambling while enjoying playing time.

If you really want to stop, you must have a strong intention to stop because gambling addiction has made you suffer and lose a lot of money, maybe even everything. Maybe around us, there are rehabilitation centers for people addicted to gambling that we can search through social media or local newspapers so they can help us to solve this gambling problem.
Indeed, you make a valid point in emphasizing the value of self-control. Self-control is essential if you want to avoid giving in to the temptation of gambling and losing all your money. Maintaining self-control when gambling gets more enjoyable with consistent self-discipline practice.

However, those who suffer from gambling addiction must set their minds to the task of breaking the cycle of compulsive play. The emotional and financial toll that compulsive gambling can take on a person's life is reason enough to look for treatment options. Addicts can get help at one of the many available rehabilitation facilities. You can learn about these facilities, which offer invaluable assistance in coping with this difficulty, through word-of-mouth or the local press. It takes bravery and resolve, but it is possible to overcome gambling addiction and live a happy, productive life with the correct support.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Newlifebtc on February 13, 2023, 11:22:44 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I know, playing Casino is an interesting thing, but there are things we should avoid, namely the desire to play with large amounts of money, and that risks losing or vice versa, even if only a few percent of the winnings are obtained, it's the same amount.  the losses you get will be even bigger than the winnings, of course it won't be balanced, because the system has been designed to give victory to users in winning, so it's the same as our brains are forced to fight the machine, in my opinion that's what must be avoided  gamblers to play with big capital, it's better to play just for fun than to play with ambition..
Not entirely true because the amount of bets used by players to gamble should be based on each other's abilities, if he can afford a large amount why not, even a high roller is unlikely to lower his bet just because fear of loss, if you can only afford a small amount then use it and don't be tempted when you see someone winning big amount because the value of the bet also affects the profit would get.
There are gamblers that could gamble with big amount of money that is why they are not bother losing because with the kind of fund, they can easily make huge amount of profits that. Shock ma y of us on how they take there risks. There are some casino games thqt are not that know but can have a high percentage of winnings if we take it so paramount.
Those gamblers that does not have intention of gambling with very big amount of money are the gamble is that do survive men there is love so you have to understand your financial strength before you go into gambling knowing that two things involved into gambling elder you win or you lose all you have so if you cannot cherish your loss that means it will find a very difficult to use a very big amount of money to gamble


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on February 14, 2023, 06:59:35 AM
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To all plebs player like me, Try craps and bet only with fixed amount on one number. Winning a bet on craps is like winning a Blackjack hand due to its high pay rate.

You don't mean it's a winning strategy, right? :) I'm sure, you don't, but it might look like that for some people, so, let's get this straight, there can't be a winning strategy in games like craps, games purely based on luck. I'm not against such games, though, it's fun. Especially when your friends are around and you are kinda competing with each other. Only I personally enjoy slots more, because the payouts you can expect in slots(with the same bet amount) are incomparably higher than in craps.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 15, 2023, 01:46:44 AM

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We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.


at this point, sometimes when a gambler has started to feel the seeds of addiction in him starting to feel, he will immediately stop gambling or only control every budget he wants to bet on.
but if a gambler already feels that there are seeds of gambling addiction and chooses to commit to always planning a budget for gambling, usually he will not stop gambling, in fact he will gamble more often, only with a predetermined budget and when he loses he leaves the casino and does not continue gambling

like my own case in the past I felt there were seeds of addiction and I didn't choose to leave gambling but preferred to keep gambling but only committed to a budget plan for gambling. even though i lost and ran out of budget, i quit and came back the next day and that's what i've done to this day.
so at this point I say that I have not completely been able to stop gambling addicts

Well, it is always good to try to control when you suspect addiction, because it would be very bad if you fell in that case, so I say that one of the ways that can be done to avoid falling into addiction is that when you go to play, You can establish a time, and that amount is deposited in the casino and that that amount is willing to lose without any remorse, and if you can not deposit more until another time, if these things are done that way you can have self-control , but of course, all this depends on the discipline that the player has and the way he sees the game, that above all the game is to have fun and that's how it should be seen.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hispo on February 15, 2023, 02:06:51 AM
Since we are talking about whales and plebs, would anyone here agree with me that a good casino is one which does the possible to make their gamblers feel as welcome as possible regardless how deep their pockets are?

Or is it a misconception I have gotten from little experience with actual resorts/irl casinos?  ;)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: peter0425 on February 15, 2023, 03:49:33 AM
Since we are talking about whales and plebs, would anyone here agree with me that a good casino is one which does the possible to make their gamblers feel as welcome as possible regardless how deep their pockets are?

Or is it a misconception I have gotten from little experience with actual resorts/irl casinos?  ;)
second to this, feeling welcome and of course SAFE is one of the most important factor gamblers from all areas either Big time or low roller that wanted , because we are risking our money so trusting a casino is our priority no matter what.this is never a misconception mate because like us? many gamblers seeking on the given points.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on February 15, 2023, 04:23:01 AM

To all plebs player like me, Try craps and bet only with fixed amount on one number. Winning a bet on craps is like winning a Blackjack hand due to its high pay rate.


OR for fun, and with using some strategy, try the "Tower Strategy". You put the same amount in six and eight. If you win with either number, bet again on the number so you have six and eight again, THEN add five. If you win, add nine.

Currently, you have bets on five, six, eight, and nine. That's when you start building your "Tower". If you win a bet, you bet again on the number that won, AND add another bet on the eight. If you keep winning to the number that's not the eight, then you keep adding to your bet to the eight, making it a Tower. If the dice comes an eight, you remove all bets and start again with two bets with the six and the eight, then build again from there.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on February 15, 2023, 07:45:39 AM
Since we are talking about whales and plebs, would anyone here agree with me that a good casino is one which does the possible to make their gamblers feel as welcome as possible regardless how deep their pockets are?

Or is it a misconception I have gotten from little experience with actual resorts/irl casinos?  ;)
Casinos should be able to welcome every gambler, whether he is a whale or an ordinary gambler because the customer is king and they have to treat every gambler the same.
And so far, the big casinos have tried to provide very satisfying service to their members, especially members who have reached the VIP level.
Without customers, casinos cannot get big and expand their business to get more customers.
For this reason, casinos try to provide the best that casino can to their customers so that their customers can come back and play at their place.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Bushdark on February 15, 2023, 07:51:02 AM
Since we are talking about whales and plebs, would anyone here agree with me that a good casino is one which does the possible to make their gamblers feel as welcome as possible regardless how deep their pockets are?

Or is it a misconception I have gotten from little experience with actual resorts/irl casinos?  ;)
A good casino will always want to make there customers to feel at peace to that it will trigger them to keep coming to use the casino whenever they like to or when they want to make bet. This is the reasons why casinos like giving bonuses to gamblers mostly those that keep losing so that it will urge them not to look for another casino to use since they usually makes loses. Casinos would be very happy when they makes money often and this is done when they there customers keep making loses. That will being more fund to the casino from every angle.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on February 15, 2023, 08:16:28 AM

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We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.


at this point, sometimes when a gambler has started to feel the seeds of addiction in him starting to feel, he will immediately stop gambling or only control every budget he wants to bet on.
but if a gambler already feels that there are seeds of gambling addiction and chooses to commit to always planning a budget for gambling, usually he will not stop gambling, in fact he will gamble more often, only with a predetermined budget and when he loses he leaves the casino and does not continue gambling

like my own case in the past I felt there were seeds of addiction and I didn't choose to leave gambling but preferred to keep gambling but only committed to a budget plan for gambling. even though i lost and ran out of budget, i quit and came back the next day and that's what i've done to this day.
so at this point I say that I have not completely been able to stop gambling addicts

Well, it is always good to try to control when you suspect addiction, because it would be very bad if you fell in that case, so I say that one of the ways that can be done to avoid falling into addiction is that when you go to play, You can establish a time, and that amount is deposited in the casino and that that amount is willing to lose without any remorse, and if you can not deposit more until another time, if these things are done that way you can have self-control , but of course, all this depends on the discipline that the player has and the way he sees the game, that above all the game is to have fun and that's how it should be seen.

In fact, gambling addicts will only destroy and bring themselves into misery because it can affect the economy and mental health.
Maybe you or some people can still think well and have the conclusion that gambling is only a place for fun and not a place to get large amounts of legitimate money. But what actually happens in real life is that almost 90% of gamblers play or bet up to become addicted because of the determination and great desire to be able to change their lives from gambling because they think that gambling can make a lot of money easily and quickly.
We cannot deny this because it has become a bad habit for almost all existing gamblers.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on February 15, 2023, 03:13:18 PM
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In fact, gambling addicts will only destroy and bring themselves into misery because it can affect the economy and mental health.
Maybe you or some people can still think well and have the conclusion that gambling is only a place for fun and not a place to get large amounts of legitimate money. But what actually happens in real life is that almost 90% of gamblers play or bet up to become addicted because of the determination and great desire to be able to change their lives from gambling because they think that gambling can make a lot of money easily and quickly.
We cannot deny this because it has become a bad habit for almost all existing gamblers.
After experiencing my uncle's addiction to gambling, I am in full agreement that compulsive gambling is a serious and pressing issue in our society. While gambling can be enjoyable for some, it has the potential to become an unhealthy addiction that harms not only the gambler but also their family, friends, and community if not managed properly. My uncle was addicted to gambling for several years and then ended up bankrupt and left by his wife. People should know the dangers of gambling and know where to get treatment if they suspect they have a problem if they do. Furthermore, governments and communities should provide support structures and resources to aid persons battling gambling addiction. Addiction is a complicated and tough condition to solve, so it's crucial that it be approached with compassion.
Without a doubt, addiction to gambling can bring a lot of problems to a person and his family in life.  This is obvious to all of us. 

Probably, if we return to the topic that we are discussing with you, dear colleagues in our forum, all those people who are more or less addicted to gambling can be safely ranked among the multi-million army of players to whom this topic is dedicated - to  armies of "plebs" players.  These people are, of course, an extreme case among all the plebs, but the problems that gambling created for them are in many ways much more serious than just playing the plebs and small wins / losses of which are simply a payment for the enjoyment of the game.
 Probably, the criterion by which a player is ranked among the plebs should be considered precisely the attitude of the player to loss, as to payment for pleasure. 

That's how it is, probably. :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on February 16, 2023, 04:20:30 AM
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In fact, gambling addicts will only destroy and bring themselves into misery because it can affect the economy and mental health.
Maybe you or some people can still think well and have the conclusion that gambling is only a place for fun and not a place to get large amounts of legitimate money. But what actually happens in real life is that almost 90% of gamblers play or bet up to become addicted because of the determination and great desire to be able to change their lives from gambling because they think that gambling can make a lot of money easily and quickly.
We cannot deny this because it has become a bad habit for almost all existing gamblers.
After experiencing my uncle's addiction to gambling, I am in full agreement that compulsive gambling is a serious and pressing issue in our society. While gambling can be enjoyable for some, it has the potential to become an unhealthy addiction that harms not only the gambler but also their family, friends, and community if not managed properly. My uncle was addicted to gambling for several years and then ended up bankrupt and left by his wife. People should know the dangers of gambling and know where to get treatment if they suspect they have a problem if they do. Furthermore, governments and communities should provide support structures and resources to aid persons battling gambling addiction. Addiction is a complicated and tough condition to solve, so it's crucial that it be approached with compassion.
I think only those who have a lot of money and only have a hobby of gambling can feel pleasure when playing or betting because basically in the world of gambling those who can get real profits and wins are the owners of gambling places or crypto gambling platforms and the managers in them.
From the story of your uncle's gambling experience, we can make it a lesson and insight that gambling can destroy lives and we can lose everything of value such as family or possessions.
Well, it's true and it seems that the government should provide a rehabilitation place for gambling addicts so that they can be helped apart from gambling addiction and if the government can do this, it will have a very positive impact on its citizens who are addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 16, 2023, 04:25:54 PM
Since we are talking about whales and plebs, would anyone here agree with me that a good casino is one which does the possible to make their gamblers feel as welcome as possible regardless how deep their pockets are?

Or is it a misconception I have gotten from little experience with actual resorts/irl casinos?  ;)
A good casino will always want to make there customers to feel at peace to that it will trigger them to keep coming to use the casino whenever they like to or when they want to make bet. This is the reasons why casinos like giving bonuses to gamblers mostly those that keep losing so that it will urge them not to look for another casino to use since they usually makes loses. Casinos would be very happy when they makes money often and this is done when they there customers keep making loses. That will being more fund to the casino from every angle.
A good casino will always try to provide satisfaction for gamblers to play even though gamblers often experience defeat and keep depositing money into the casino. This provides evidence that there is a curiosity in the gambler that makes him want to continue playing. And coupled with the existence of a deposit bonus that casinos often give, it provides an opportunity for gamblers to get this deposit bonus. And it will be an additional income for the casino because there will be many gamblers who will deposit more money to the casino to continue playing gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hispo on February 16, 2023, 06:20:27 PM
A good casino will always try to provide satisfaction for gamblers to play even though gamblers often experience defeat and keep depositing money into the casino.

That is why I think a casino which does not take care of the little details for both small and big pockets, it won't last much.
There is a good reason casinos offer perks, like drinks and promotions to those who accumulate enough wager, to give a good experience not matter whether one is having a lucky session or not.

Or at least, that is what I learned from a cousin who liked to gamble during vacations. Even if he lost money, he had fun and some free drinks.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 16, 2023, 07:17:33 PM
For players who consider themselves commoners, the best thing they can do is for the casino to give them a lot of chances to win, that when they play and if they lose, the casino retains them with promotions and many conspiracies so that those players like to be there, and that is attraction to the casino, it is not something that is intense, if they offer you a consolation prize it is something that can raise your self-esteem, that the casino is in charge of rewarding you in some way and it can be with small bonuses, and I have not seen casinos apply that strategy.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Lanatsa on February 16, 2023, 09:59:13 PM
For players who consider themselves commoners, the best thing they can do is for the casino to give them a lot of chances to win, that when they play and if they lose, the casino retains them with promotions and many conspiracies so that those players like to be there, and that is attraction to the casino, it is not something that is intense, if they offer you a consolation prize it is something that can raise your self-esteem, that the casino is in charge of rewarding you in some way and it can be with small bonuses, and I have not seen casinos apply that strategy.

There's no such thing because this is how do fairness do works on which there would be no biases basing up on the financial condition and this is what i do prefer.It is really just that we shrimps are being that

humilated or does have that kind of feeling on the time that we do play on a place where we do see that we are just that small bettors in compared into those people who do play around whether you are dealing with online or offline casinos.

This is what i do agree the most basing up on whats stated on op
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Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: abel1337 on February 16, 2023, 11:55:28 PM
For players who consider themselves commoners, the best thing they can do is for the casino to give them a lot of chances to win, that when they play and if they lose, the casino retains them with promotions and many conspiracies so that those players like to be there, and that is attraction to the casino, it is not something that is intense, if they offer you a consolation prize it is something that can raise your self-esteem, that the casino is in charge of rewarding you in some way and it can be with small bonuses, and I have not seen casinos apply that strategy.

Casino is still a business and they know that the chances of them taking something from you is greater from what they are giving you. Casino do give small bonuses, promotions and events to keep their gamblers inside their casino and not to switch to other casino or quit gambling. Casinos also make their gamblers stay with them making the gambler trust the casino by doing these promotion and provide good quality service.  On short term, You can win from them but the longer you play is the higher the chance that the house edge will hit you. We can't escape the house edge unless we quit early and run from it. Casino industry is so good that new casino are just keep popping out.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 17, 2023, 04:04:50 AM
A good casino will always try to provide satisfaction for gamblers to play even though gamblers often experience defeat and keep depositing money into the casino.

That is why I think a casino which does not take care of the little details for both small and big pockets, it won't last much.
There is a good reason casinos offer perks, like drinks and promotions to those who accumulate enough wager, to give a good experience not matter whether one is having a lucky session or not.

Or at least, that is what I learned from a cousin who liked to gamble during vacations. Even if he lost money, he had fun and some free drinks.
Having facilities such as free drinks or snacks can make gamblers feel happy and make them want to come back to the casino and that is a different service from a casino to make its customers come back again. There are many ways casinos can make their customers happy and want to come back, and that is one way. And indeed, even though a gambler feels he has lost money, he has got other pleasures and services.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Daltonik on February 17, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
A good casino will always try to provide satisfaction for gamblers to play even though gamblers often experience defeat and keep depositing money into the casino.

That is why I think a casino which does not take care of the little details for both small and big pockets, it won't last much.
There is a good reason casinos offer perks, like drinks and promotions to those who accumulate enough wager, to give a good experience not matter whether one is having a lucky session or not.

Or at least, that is what I learned from a cousin who liked to gamble during vacations. Even if he lost money, he had fun and some free drinks.
Having facilities such as free drinks or snacks can make gamblers feel happy and make them want to come back to the casino and that is a different service from a casino to make its customers come back again. There are many ways casinos can make their customers happy and want to come back, and that is one way. And indeed, even though a gambler feels he has lost money, he has got other pleasures and services.

But on the other hand, if you lost as a result of visiting a casino, let's say without calculating your capabilities, then of course a favorable environment allows you to reduce your negativity from the loss, but on the other hand, for example, when I next visit a casino, I would perceive the enveloping holiday atmosphere simply as an entourage to attract customers.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dimonstration on February 17, 2023, 02:49:52 PM
But on the other hand, if you lost as a result of visiting a casino, let's say without calculating your capabilities, then of course a favorable environment allows you to reduce your negativity from the loss, but on the other hand, for example, when I next visit a casino, I would perceive the enveloping holiday atmosphere simply as an entourage to attract customers.

In my experience, the environment doesn’t matter at all if you are already at loss big time. I remember one time when we visit casino on the city near to our province. At first I’m enjoying free drinks and snacks since I’m just watching with my colleagues betting until I become entertained to play personally and lose big time which is equivalent to 1 month salary. I was very depressed that time because I still have low savings and new on my job. I can’t think clearly while I’m still waiting for my colleagues to finish gambling. At that point having a good ambiance doesn’t help me since my mind is too focus on thinking about my loss and where will I get that same amount of money for my monthly expenses before payroll come.  :D


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Eureka_07 on February 17, 2023, 04:12:30 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on February 17, 2023, 07:08:26 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
like planning a budget for gambling it is very important to avoid big losses and blowing up all of your salary money or savings.
sometimes it can be hard to control yourself to stop gambling after losing a few dollars. but if we have planned a budget for gambling, surely it will be easier for us to control ourselves to stop gambling after the budget runs out.
so it's better to still plan a budget before gambling to avoid bad things.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on February 20, 2023, 09:45:46 AM
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This is what i do agree the most basing up on whats stated on op
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Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play

I think it is worth noting that it's not the house edge what makes people lose big amounts, amounts they can't afford to lose. Even if there were no house edge at all, some gamblers would  still be losing huge amounts because of bad luck. We shouldn't forget about that when looking for a casino with the lowest house edge around, thinking that we can win there. Even EV+ games are not the games where your win is guaranteed.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on February 20, 2023, 06:03:51 PM
But on the other hand, if you lost as a result of visiting a casino, let's say without calculating your capabilities, then of course a favorable environment allows you to reduce your negativity from the loss, but on the other hand, for example, when I next visit a casino, I would perceive the enveloping holiday atmosphere simply as an entourage to attract customers.

In my experience, the environment doesn’t matter at all if you are already at loss big time. I remember one time when we visit casino on the city near to our province. At first I’m enjoying free drinks and snacks since I’m just watching with my colleagues betting until I become entertained to play personally and lose big time which is equivalent to 1 month salary. I was very depressed that time because I still have low savings and new on my job. I can’t think clearly while I’m still waiting for my colleagues to finish gambling. At that point having a good ambiance doesn’t help me since my mind is too focus on thinking about my loss and where will I get that same amount of money for my monthly expenses before payroll come.  :D
Sounds a little sad but feels ridiculous and like wanting to laugh when reading experiences like what you tell.
Indeed, everyone certainly does not have and thinks about their limits when playing and betting at gambling venues because all that is felt is pleasure and curiosity, plus if you manage to get a win at the beginning of the game, the desire to continue playing will always appear.
But everything ends with regrets that can't be forgotten because we lost almost everything we had. However, the funny thing is that even though today we regret losing at gambling, in the future we still gamble again and in the end we only regret it again🤣.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on February 20, 2023, 06:33:27 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mahanton on February 20, 2023, 09:42:48 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
When you are that impulsive or a type of person who are really that having emotions and cant control it out or not really good at it then you are really that prone to mistakes and errors.
Gambling is should really be for fun but when you do go past into your limitations then this is where things do become shit and messy. Play gambling according into your budget and allocation
and its always been ideal that you should only allocate a certain amount for the said time.Dont go past beyond it or would exceed so that you wont really be having problems.
Playing should be fun and not something that gives stress.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Dunamisx on February 20, 2023, 09:49:29 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.

It's a good taught from you that a gambler should learn how to exercise caution by first making a disciplined lifestyle their culture to do, yes there's a good fate in doing so because at the end of it all, we all got to be left with the outcome from the decision of things we made in gambling, moreover we must also not forget that there's always a bound on something to happen or not and we are the determinant to these things from what we have decided on in making a change from the experience we want to see happening over and again.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 20, 2023, 10:56:47 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
I don't know about any other person but personally, I've discovered that those time when we find it hard to hold ourselves from playing is the time we lose the most, it is just like playing and losing, and you are so hyped up in your spirit to not quit until you have won all the money you lost back, you keep playing and keep losing, and when finally you see its not working and want to quit, something would tell you to try one more time, that you might win this one, and then you keep trying and trying and before you know it, all your money is gone.

This is something I've experience several times before, and I must say that its not a funny experience, once we can learn to always hold ourselves back in times when such emotion wants to take over us, then it shows we are becoming better gambler.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: lienfaye on February 21, 2023, 05:10:36 AM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
like planning a budget for gambling it is very important to avoid big losses and blowing up all of your salary money or savings.
sometimes it can be hard to control yourself to stop gambling after losing a few dollars. but if we have planned a budget for gambling, surely it will be easier for us to control ourselves to stop gambling after the budget runs out.
so it's better to still plan a budget before gambling to avoid bad things.
That's what i'm doing. Every payday I set aside a money for leisure, it depends on me where I want to spend it but usually it's for gambling. If my budget runs out that's the time to stop, that way I can control myself not to go beyond what I can afford because I also don't want to have problem for not having a limit. So far, it works though sometimes i'm also getting tempted to play longer especially if i'm not yet satisfied, but still, I can refrain.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on February 21, 2023, 06:35:36 AM
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: slapper on February 21, 2023, 07:12:58 AM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
I don't know about any other person but personally, I've discovered that those time when we find it hard to hold ourselves from playing is the time we lose the most, it is just like playing and losing, and you are so hyped up in your spirit to not quit until you have won all the money you lost back, you keep playing and keep losing, and when finally you see its not working and want to quit, something would tell you to try one more time, that you might win this one, and then you keep trying and trying and before you know it, all your money is gone.

This is something I've experience several times before, and I must say that its not a funny experience, once we can learn to always hold ourselves back in times when such emotion wants to take over us, then it shows we are becoming better gambler.
I feel your pain. When emotions are involved, the want to keep playing even when the chances are against you can be powerful. I've been there, my friend, and it's not fun to find you've lost all your money.

Before hitting the spin button, set boundaries. That involves setting a spending restriction and a time limit before you start playing. Jack, stop when you reach those limitations, no matter how you feel! When you sense pressure or frustration, take a break from the game. Never gamble with money you can't afford to lose.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mauser on February 21, 2023, 08:27:11 AM
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.

I would say that there are not many people out there who can handle big losses multiple times without hurting. Any regular gambler should keep an eye on the risks he takes and make sure that it's within his comfort level. The longer we play in a gambling session the harder it keeps to stay on top of the risks we take, that is why it's good to take breaks in between and clear our head. Also risk is not a constant in our life, it will change the older we get. When we are young we might not feel how hard it is to earn money, so we will evaluate risks much lower than later in life. In our 30-40s risk becomes the main factor to look at as we trying to build a family, buy a house, nice car and good vacations. And once we get closer to retirement we might not need all our money anymore and can handle much more risk again. I would always recommend any gambler to evaluate the risks they can take based on their current life situation.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 21, 2023, 10:39:28 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.

It's a good taught from you that a gambler should learn how to exercise caution by first making a disciplined lifestyle their culture to do, yes there's a good fate in doing so because at the end of it all, we all got to be left with the outcome from the decision of things we made in gambling, moreover we must also not forget that there's always a bound on something to happen or not and we are the determinant to these things from what we have decided on in making a change from the experience we want to see happening over and again.

When I play I don't bet much, because I know I'll lose it, when I play it's not much, I really like it when I'm bored and I like having some money in the casinos, when I say some money I mean 10usd 7usd, because with that It's enough for me, there is a game that I really like and it's called crash, it's a somewhat risky game but it entertains me a lot, I also like to play dice because I put few satoshis and that makes me have more control, I don't play slots Because they have a lot of risk and I spend money fast and I don't have experience.



Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fatunad on February 21, 2023, 11:17:47 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.

It's a good taught from you that a gambler should learn how to exercise caution by first making a disciplined lifestyle their culture to do, yes there's a good fate in doing so because at the end of it all, we all got to be left with the outcome from the decision of things we made in gambling, moreover we must also not forget that there's always a bound on something to happen or not and we are the determinant to these things from what we have decided on in making a change from the experience we want to see happening over and again.

When I play I don't bet much, because I know I'll lose it, when I play it's not much, I really like it when I'm bored and I like having some money in the casinos, when I say some money I mean 10usd 7usd, because with that It's enough for me, there is a game that I really like and it's called crash, it's a somewhat risky game but it entertains me a lot, I also like to play dice because I put few satoshis and that makes me have more control, I don't play slots Because they have a lot of risk and I spend money fast and I don't have experience.


$10-20 budget for gambling is enough for me since im just an average wage earner so it is really that big on spending that per week basis.Sometimes when im in mood then i might add up a little
but not really that much because im really that aware on how things goes specially when dealing up with gambling.It could mess up your entire balance in a snap or blink of an eye.
Always set out limitations and we do know on how risky it is when you dont have that control towards your finances. Dealing up with games will really be depending
on your interest because there are some who do love those strategic and there are ones who do love pure luck.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2023, 11:25:57 PM
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That's the way it is, I think he uses probabilities, and the worst thing is that he's not someone who's going to play it, I know that he uses a lot of some abilities that he has, I thought he was just lucky, one of the things he told me is that he Sometimes he assumed that such a player had such a game, and that made him very eager to play a bet or to do something like assuming such a thing, however what strikes me is that the knowledge is such that it assures me that when He always plays, he wins something, if he doesn't come first, he comes in at least 3rd place, he tells me that now there aren't as many games as before, poker tournaments, and that's something that has made him stop playing games of chance a lot.


There are poker sites, or other gambling sites with poker tables,  where tournaments are going non-stop, several of them at the same time in some places. Stopping playing games of chance is one thing, but poker is not a game of chance according to many gamblers, and I agree with them mainly. Your friend has those skills that are reuired for playing poker successfully, and I think he stopped maybe because he wanted a break, not because he couldn't find a site with active poker tournaments.

And probably also it's the same with any other risky activity that can potentially give you a big reward. Those are the tricks our mind plays with us. The thing is that our brain has not changed since tens of thousands of years ago, and this behaviour, always taking the risk to potentially get something big, was the right one for our survival for many thousand of years because there were no slot machines, no crypto trading, and we, humans, rarely had this opportunity to get a fortune of a lifetime within one day.

Casinos should probably hire scientists to study human behavior concerning risks and dopamine release. 8)

I don't know about casinos, but the results of such study would be interesting to see for millions of people on YouTube. That's what I'm sure of.  8)

Well, there are many chess players who have left chess alone to dedicate themselves to poker, this means that the most pioneering people in a sport want to earn money and they know that one way to do it is with poker, I see poker as similar to trading , because you can win or lose, but the greatest responsibility is to make the most appropriate decision, and if you make a mistake, the mistake is ours and there is not much error left attributable to luck, as some do to hide from others, or to avoid shame , I am the opposite, when I lose I say so and if I do not find the reason, then I know that others can see the errors and tell me.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 21, 2023, 11:26:45 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.

It's a good taught from you that a gambler should learn how to exercise caution by first making a disciplined lifestyle their culture to do, yes there's a good fate in doing so because at the end of it all, we all got to be left with the outcome from the decision of things we made in gambling, moreover we must also not forget that there's always a bound on something to happen or not and we are the determinant to these things from what we have decided on in making a change from the experience we want to see happening over and again.

When I play I don't bet much, because I know I'll lose it, when I play it's not much, I really like it when I'm bored and I like having some money in the casinos, when I say some money I mean 10usd 7usd, because with that It's enough for me, there is a game that I really like and it's called crash, it's a somewhat risky game but it entertains me a lot, I also like to play dice because I put few satoshis and that makes me have more control, I don't play slots Because they have a lot of risk and I spend money fast and I don't have experience.


$10-20 budget for gambling is enough for me since im just an average wage earner so it is really that big on spending that per week basis.Sometimes when im in mood then i might add up a little
but not really that much because im really that aware on how things goes specially when dealing up with gambling.It could mess up your entire balance in a snap or blink of an eye.
Always set out limitations and we do know on how risky it is when you dont have that control towards your finances. Dealing up with games will really be depending
on your interest because there are some who do love those strategic and there are ones who do love pure luck.
Spending $10 to $20 dollar on gambling every week is already a big amount for most gamblers I tell you, like for me, there was a time when I hardly spend more than $5 per week on gambling, I spend more, only if i hit some winning in the week..
And I agree with your last statement, I as a person love games where I am more in control of my winning, than depending entirely on luck, this is why for some time now, I've only focused on sports betting, casino games, like I always say, are very interesting to play, but luck doesn't just permit me to make any major winnings from it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on February 22, 2023, 02:56:42 AM
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.

I would say that there are not many people out there who can handle big losses multiple times without hurting. Any regular gambler should keep an eye on the risks he takes and make sure that it's within his comfort level. The longer we play in a gambling session the harder it keeps to stay on top of the risks we take, that is why it's good to take breaks in between and clear our head. Also risk is not a constant in our life, it will change the older we get. When we are young we might not feel how hard it is to earn money, so we will evaluate risks much lower than later in life. In our 30-40s risk becomes the main factor to look at as we trying to build a family, buy a house, nice car and good vacations. And once we get closer to retirement we might not need all our money anymore and can handle much more risk again. I would always recommend any gambler to evaluate the risks they can take based on their current life situation.
We really have to be able to handle big losses that can occur at any time when we play and that's why we have to limit the use of money in gambling so we don't experience big losses.
Even though it looks difficult, we should try it because once we are tempted to use more money, the loss will come and we don't realize it.
When we can successfully restrain ourselves from these temptations, we will not be affected and can use gambling as mere entertainment.
We are getting older and there will be other needs that we must fulfill, especially if we are already married and have children.
We can't just play gambling almost every day because we also need to pay attention to the condition of our household, especially our children.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on February 22, 2023, 08:14:15 AM
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.

I would say that there are not many people out there who can handle big losses multiple times without hurting. Any regular gambler should keep an eye on the risks he takes and make sure that it's within his comfort level. The longer we play in a gambling session the harder it keeps to stay on top of the risks we take, that is why it's good to take breaks in between and clear our head. Also risk is not a constant in our life, it will change the older we get. When we are young we might not feel how hard it is to earn money, so we will evaluate risks much lower than later in life. In our 30-40s risk becomes the main factor to look at as we trying to build a family, buy a house, nice car and good vacations. And once we get closer to retirement we might not need all our money anymore and can handle much more risk again. I would always recommend any gambler to evaluate the risks they can take based on their current life situation.
We really have to be able to handle big losses that can occur at any time when we play and that's why we have to limit the use of money in gambling so we don't experience big losses.
Even though it looks difficult, we should try it because once we are tempted to use more money, the loss will come and we don't realize it.
When we can successfully restrain ourselves from these temptations, we will not be affected and can use gambling as mere entertainment.
We are getting older and there will be other needs that we must fulfill, especially if we are already married and have children.
We can't just play gambling almost every day because we also need to pay attention to the condition of our household, especially our children.
This is a completely correct observation of yours. Indeed, I, too, now thought that it is true, the years pass, we all grow old and are getting closer and closer to the inevitable end of our earthly journey. Alas, everything goes only in one direction. Well, accordingly, the excitement of the game decreases, you start to get used to losing, you start to limit the time of the game and, by the way, the lost money. Although I don’t know, maybe you, on the contrary, got richer and have already become such a player who does not belong to the plebs players at all. So it turns out that as we get older, we almost all become plebs players. And just this glorious topic just suits us well. Here you can probably even complain that you haven’t played for a long time. And then he decided to play and quickly lost everything.

Well then you are definitely plebs. :)


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: slapper on February 22, 2023, 11:14:31 AM
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.

I would say that there are not many people out there who can handle big losses multiple times without hurting. Any regular gambler should keep an eye on the risks he takes and make sure that it's within his comfort level. The longer we play in a gambling session the harder it keeps to stay on top of the risks we take, that is why it's good to take breaks in between and clear our head. Also risk is not a constant in our life, it will change the older we get. When we are young we might not feel how hard it is to earn money, so we will evaluate risks much lower than later in life. In our 30-40s risk becomes the main factor to look at as we trying to build a family, buy a house, nice car and good vacations. And once we get closer to retirement we might not need all our money anymore and can handle much more risk again. I would always recommend any gambler to evaluate the risks they can take based on their current life situation.
We really have to be able to handle big losses that can occur at any time when we play and that's why we have to limit the use of money in gambling so we don't experience big losses.
Even though it looks difficult, we should try it because once we are tempted to use more money, the loss will come and we don't realize it.
When we can successfully restrain ourselves from these temptations, we will not be affected and can use gambling as mere entertainment.
We are getting older and there will be other needs that we must fulfill, especially if we are already married and have children.
We can't just play gambling almost every day because we also need to pay attention to the condition of our household, especially our children.
I feel compelled to acknowledge the significance of your decision to implement restrictions on your use of monetary resources for the purposes of gambling. Indeed, the precarious nature of this endeavor is such that it is not uncommon to face severe financial hardships resulting from unsound decision-making. Therefore, the utmost importance lies in your ability to remain level-headed in the face of potential losses by imposing limitations on the extent of your financial involvement.

Furthermore, the gravity of this responsibility increases with age, especially when one is tasked with the care and provision of a family. One must bear in mind that indulgence in gambling ought to be regarded solely as a leisure activity, and never to be prioritized above the needs of those for whom we are responsible. By fostering a deep sense of self-awareness in our gambling practices and implementing prudent limitations, we can ensure that it remains a safe and pleasurable pastime that does not interfere with the integral facets of our lives.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nimogsm on February 22, 2023, 12:08:26 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
In my understanding,the game should bring pleasure first of all, and not frustration and stress from losing.I always play for the amount that I am ready to lose and perceive it as a payment for the time spent and nothing more.And even if you manage to win some amount, it's like a nice bonus that you can play for in the future without spending your main balance.It is always important to approach the game only with the correct assessment, people who do not know how to control themselves should not play.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: BobK71 on February 22, 2023, 05:32:27 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
In my understanding,the game should bring pleasure first of all, and not frustration and stress from losing.I always play for the amount that I am ready to lose and perceive it as a payment for the time spent and nothing more.And even if you manage to win some amount, it's like a nice bonus that you can play for in the future without spending your main balance.It is always important to approach the game only with the correct assessment, people who do not know how to control themselves should not play.
When a gambler learns to enjoy gambling with joy, he cannot imagine it as a place of income. A gambler can enjoy gambling if he does not think of it as anything else after losing. Many cannot afford losses and are quick enough to recover those losses and are later disappointed by large amounts of losses. Only those who can control gambling without any pressure can realize its joy.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hamphser on February 22, 2023, 07:39:39 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
In my understanding,the game should bring pleasure first of all, and not frustration and stress from losing.I always play for the amount that I am ready to lose and perceive it as a payment for the time spent and nothing more.And even if you manage to win some amount, it's like a nice bonus that you can play for in the future without spending your main balance.It is always important to approach the game only with the correct assessment, people who do not know how to control themselves should not play.
When a gambler learns to enjoy gambling with joy, he cannot imagine it as a place of income. A gambler can enjoy gambling if he does not think of it as anything else after losing. Many cannot afford losses and are quick enough to recover those losses and are later disappointed by large amounts of losses. Only those who can control gambling without any pressure can realize its joy.
There's still some things need to be considered or look after even if you do see this as an entertainment on which you should really be needing to have that control and limits when it comes to spending.

Yes, you might really just be seeing this as a leisure thing but spending could really be that in severe on which it would might be able to pass up or go beyond your border line.This is why you should really be still
that careful when dealing up with gambling.Its not really  that bad to gamble as long you do know your limits.

When it comes to spending or capital capabilities then it would really matter on each individual since we do know that we do have different financial capabilities
when it comes to certain things.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: blockman on February 22, 2023, 07:59:02 PM
When I play I don't bet much, because I know I'll lose it, when I play it's not much, I really like it when I'm bored and I like having some money in the casinos, when I say some money I mean 10usd 7usd, because with that It's enough for me, there is a game that I really like and it's called crash, it's a somewhat risky game but it entertains me a lot, I also like to play dice because I put few satoshis and that makes me have more control, I don't play slots Because they have a lot of risk and I spend money fast and I don't have experience.
Many like to play crash and it's enjoyable. Every gambling game is risky but as long as it is entertaining you and you're able to control your gambling habit then you know what's in it to come.
We as plebs, know what's best for us and how much we should let go, and willing to lose when we gamble. That's how we, plebs, are good at, whether it's dice, slots, crash, or any other game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 22, 2023, 08:09:48 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
In my understanding,the game should bring pleasure first of all, and not frustration and stress from losing.I always play for the amount that I am ready to lose and perceive it as a payment for the time spent and nothing more.And even if you manage to win some amount, it's like a nice bonus that you can play for in the future without spending your main balance.It is always important to approach the game only with the correct assessment, people who do not know how to control themselves should not play.
When a gambler learns to enjoy gambling with joy, he cannot imagine it as a place of income. A gambler can enjoy gambling if he does not think of it as anything else after losing. Many cannot afford losses and are quick enough to recover those losses and are later disappointed by large amounts of losses. Only those who can control gambling without any pressure can realize its joy.

I want to enjoy, but when I see what I'm losing, it's like the enjoyment isn't much, here many talk about enjoying, but to enjoy you have to see how much money you're going to lose and that when you lose that money you don't regret it as a person Do not spend more than you should, because there are many players who spend even the market and the maintenance of their family and that is something very serious, it is not what they should be, and that is what they must take care of so as not to fall in addiction problem.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Bushdark on February 22, 2023, 08:13:39 PM
When I play I don't bet much, because I know I'll lose it, when I play it's not much, I really like it when I'm bored and I like having some money in the casinos, when I say some money I mean 10usd 7usd, because with that It's enough for me, there is a game that I really like and it's called crash, it's a somewhat risky game but it entertains me a lot, I also like to play dice because I put few satoshis and that makes me have more control, I don't play slots Because they have a lot of risk and I spend money fast and I don't have experience.
Many like to play crash and it's enjoyable. Every gambling game is risky but as long as it is entertaining you and you're able to control your gambling habit then you know what's in it to come.
We as plebs, know what's best for us and how much we should let go, and willing to lose when we gamble. That's how we, plebs, are good at, whether it's dice, slots, crash, or any other game.
To gain a gambling habit is very easy that is why we need to be very conscious of the way we gamble even though we are fortunate gamblers. Everything that is too much is bad and we need to understand the fact that what ever is giving us joy or entertainment is good but too much of it is not good. It can lead to addiction that might become hard to leave.

I could remember when I always playing card games, I love the game and I never new that it could be so easy for me to become addicted to it until when I find out that I was almost gotten eaten with it. If I do not play it for a day, my body will be doing me like I've lost something.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: blockman on February 22, 2023, 08:27:57 PM
Many like to play crash and it's enjoyable. Every gambling game is risky but as long as it is entertaining you and you're able to control your gambling habit then you know what's in it to come.
We as plebs, know what's best for us and how much we should let go, and willing to lose when we gamble. That's how we, plebs, are good at, whether it's dice, slots, crash, or any other game.
To gain a gambling habit is very easy that is why we need to be very conscious of the way we gamble even though we are fortunate gamblers. Everything that is too much is bad and we need to understand the fact that what ever is giving us joy or entertainment is good but too much of it is not good. It can lead to addiction that might become hard to leave.

I could remember when I always playing card games, I love the game and I never new that it could be so easy for me to become addicted to it until when I find out that I was almost gotten eaten with it. If I do not play it for a day, my body will be doing me like I've lost something.
Yes, too much of everything is bad. That's why if you're a gambler, you need to remember that you don't have to be wholly attached to the games you play.
You win and lose and that's it. If you win, take the money and go away and go back sometime again in the future and if you lose, just accept it and leave the casino so that you won't lose further.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fatunad on February 22, 2023, 11:34:17 PM
Many like to play crash and it's enjoyable. Every gambling game is risky but as long as it is entertaining you and you're able to control your gambling habit then you know what's in it to come.
We as plebs, know what's best for us and how much we should let go, and willing to lose when we gamble. That's how we, plebs, are good at, whether it's dice, slots, crash, or any other game.
To gain a gambling habit is very easy that is why we need to be very conscious of the way we gamble even though we are fortunate gamblers. Everything that is too much is bad and we need to understand the fact that what ever is giving us joy or entertainment is good but too much of it is not good. It can lead to addiction that might become hard to leave.

I could remember when I always playing card games, I love the game and I never new that it could be so easy for me to become addicted to it until when I find out that I was almost gotten eaten with it. If I do not play it for a day, my body will be doing me like I've lost something.
Yes, too much of everything is bad. That's why if you're a gambler, you need to remember that you don't have to be wholly attached to the games you play.
You win and lose and that's it. If you win, take the money and go away and go back sometime again in the future and if you lose, just accept it and leave the casino so that you won't lose further.
Always set limits then you should be fine not only on gambling but in all things that you are dealing with.Its true that everythings excess or too much would be always that bad and this is why always set out
limitations or bounderies on how far you should go and going past beyond it is never been that recommendable.How much more on something that spends up money? It is really just right that you should
really make yourself that fully aware on what are the things that you should gonna do.Spending up money on gambling is basing on our own jurisdiction and plans it is really just
that some people go beyond that border line.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on February 23, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.

I would say that there are not many people out there who can handle big losses multiple times without hurting. Any regular gambler should keep an eye on the risks he takes and make sure that it's within his comfort level. The longer we play in a gambling session the harder it keeps to stay on top of the risks we take, that is why it's good to take breaks in between and clear our head. Also risk is not a constant in our life, it will change the older we get. When we are young we might not feel how hard it is to earn money, so we will evaluate risks much lower than later in life. In our 30-40s risk becomes the main factor to look at as we trying to build a family, buy a house, nice car and good vacations. And once we get closer to retirement we might not need all our money anymore and can handle much more risk again. I would always recommend any gambler to evaluate the risks they can take based on their current life situation.
We really have to be able to handle big losses that can occur at any time when we play and that's why we have to limit the use of money in gambling so we don't experience big losses.
Even though it looks difficult, we should try it because once we are tempted to use more money, the loss will come and we don't realize it.
When we can successfully restrain ourselves from these temptations, we will not be affected and can use gambling as mere entertainment.
We are getting older and there will be other needs that we must fulfill, especially if we are already married and have children.
We can't just play gambling almost every day because we also need to pay attention to the condition of our household, especially our children.
This is a completely correct observation of yours. Indeed, I, too, now thought that it is true, the years pass, we all grow old and are getting closer and closer to the inevitable end of our earthly journey. Alas, everything goes only in one direction. Well, accordingly, the excitement of the game decreases, you start to get used to losing, you start to limit the time of the game and, by the way, the lost money. Although I don’t know, maybe you, on the contrary, got richer and have already become such a player who does not belong to the plebs players at all. So it turns out that as we get older, we almost all become plebs players. And just this glorious topic just suits us well. Here you can probably even complain that you haven’t played for a long time. And then he decided to play and quickly lost everything.

Well then you are definitely plebs. :)
That's right because as we get older, our maturity level will also increase, giving us the idea that at our current age, it is no longer possible to continue playing gambling at a young age.
Moreover, the current gambling situation is also changing, which may make us unable to keep up with it like when we were young.
Maybe it's time for us to slowly start leaving gambling and better prepare for our old age to enjoy our old days with happiness that we have never had before.
We also have to be able to decide how often we play gambling and how much money we use, especially if our income decreases later.

We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
As long as you can handle the risk of big losses and treat gambling well, you don't need to worry about that risk.
We will also be able to enjoy gambling and when we have fun with other things and will not experience big losses when playing gambling.
But indeed, many people cannot accept that risk and experience frustration because they have lost so many times.
That's because they don't try to avoid too big risks and besides, they also use big money to play gambling.

I would say that there are not many people out there who can handle big losses multiple times without hurting. Any regular gambler should keep an eye on the risks he takes and make sure that it's within his comfort level. The longer we play in a gambling session the harder it keeps to stay on top of the risks we take, that is why it's good to take breaks in between and clear our head. Also risk is not a constant in our life, it will change the older we get. When we are young we might not feel how hard it is to earn money, so we will evaluate risks much lower than later in life. In our 30-40s risk becomes the main factor to look at as we trying to build a family, buy a house, nice car and good vacations. And once we get closer to retirement we might not need all our money anymore and can handle much more risk again. I would always recommend any gambler to evaluate the risks they can take based on their current life situation.
We really have to be able to handle big losses that can occur at any time when we play and that's why we have to limit the use of money in gambling so we don't experience big losses.
Even though it looks difficult, we should try it because once we are tempted to use more money, the loss will come and we don't realize it.
When we can successfully restrain ourselves from these temptations, we will not be affected and can use gambling as mere entertainment.
We are getting older and there will be other needs that we must fulfill, especially if we are already married and have children.
We can't just play gambling almost every day because we also need to pay attention to the condition of our household, especially our children.
I feel compelled to acknowledge the significance of your decision to implement restrictions on your use of monetary resources for the purposes of gambling. Indeed, the precarious nature of this endeavor is such that it is not uncommon to face severe financial hardships resulting from unsound decision-making. Therefore, the utmost importance lies in your ability to remain level-headed in the face of potential losses by imposing limitations on the extent of your financial involvement.

Furthermore, the gravity of this responsibility increases with age, especially when one is tasked with the care and provision of a family. One must bear in mind that indulgence in gambling ought to be regarded solely as a leisure activity, and never to be prioritized above the needs of those for whom we are responsible. By fostering a deep sense of self-awareness in our gambling practices and implementing prudent limitations, we can ensure that it remains a safe and pleasurable pastime that does not interfere with the integral facets of our lives.
When we realize that gambling is an entertainment that is not a daily priority, we will try to reduce our time playing gambling and focus more on caring for and providing for our family.
Gambling is not a way to generate income because there is a risk of loss behind it all and we must be able to restrain ourselves from getting carried away into gambling even deeper.
Restrictions on gambling are necessary to maintain our financial stability so that we don't run out just for gambling and can use the money to benefit our family.
And this is where we must be able to change our decisions in playing gambling because later, we will get bigger responsibilities and tasks when we are married.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on February 23, 2023, 09:30:03 AM
Many like to play crash and it's enjoyable. Every gambling game is risky but as long as it is entertaining you and you're able to control your gambling habit then you know what's in it to come.
We as plebs, know what's best for us and how much we should let go, and willing to lose when we gamble. That's how we, plebs, are good at, whether it's dice, slots, crash, or any other game.
To gain a gambling habit is very easy that is why we need to be very conscious of the way we gamble even though we are fortunate gamblers. Everything that is too much is bad and we need to understand the fact that what ever is giving us joy or entertainment is good but too much of it is not good. It can lead to addiction that might become hard to leave.

I could remember when I always playing card games, I love the game and I never new that it could be so easy for me to become addicted to it until when I find out that I was almost gotten eaten with it. If I do not play it for a day, my body will be doing me like I've lost something.
Yes, too much of everything is bad. That's why if you're a gambler, you need to remember that you don't have to be wholly attached to the games you play.
You win and lose and that's it. If you win, take the money and go away and go back sometime again in the future and if you lose, just accept it and leave the casino so that you won't lose further.
Being too attached and obsessed with a game that is being played in order to get a big win or profit is just an action that will bring a gambler into ruin.
How could it not be, if someone has the option of being able to win big in a game he will unconsciously use all the money he has to continue playing and in the end he will lose all his money.
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Apocollapse on February 23, 2023, 10:02:43 AM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: maydna on February 23, 2023, 01:21:28 PM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.
But rich people can get income from various businesses, so if they use their money to gamble, it won't affect their wealth too much. Even though they spend a lot of money on gambling, they must have other goals besides gambling. But I agree that if we want to play gambling, we must have a limit on how much money we can afford and must not exceed the budget we have set so that we can avoid too big losses.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nimogsm on February 23, 2023, 08:49:03 PM
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When a gambler learns to enjoy gambling with joy, he cannot imagine it as a place of income. A gambler can enjoy gambling if he does not think of it as anything else after losing. Many cannot afford losses and are quick enough to recover those losses and are later disappointed by large amounts of losses. Only those who can control gambling without any pressure can realize its joy.
There is absolutely nothing to do in gambling without controlling your emotions.I always adhere to iron rules,namely: never try to recoup.If you lose OK, then you'll be lucky next time.And the second point is to always play only the amount that I am ready to lose.I already had a nagative experience when I lost my entire deposit and tried to recoup while losing the second one,after that I became more careful.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 23, 2023, 09:03:57 PM
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When a gambler learns to enjoy gambling with joy, he cannot imagine it as a place of income. A gambler can enjoy gambling if he does not think of it as anything else after losing. Many cannot afford losses and are quick enough to recover those losses and are later disappointed by large amounts of losses. Only those who can control gambling without any pressure can realize its joy.
There is absolutely nothing to do in gambling without controlling your emotions.I always adhere to iron rules,namely: never try to recoup.If you lose OK, then you'll be lucky next time.And the second point is to always play only the amount that I am ready to lose.I already had a nagative experience when I lost my entire deposit and tried to recoup while losing the second one,after that I became more careful.

I all the rules of gambling, one I personally consider to be the most important and also the golden rule is, gambling only with the amount we can comfortably loss.
This rule, if obey consistently without failing, can automatically end most of our complaints about losing this or that, but unfortunately for many of us, greed will not allow us obey it, knowing very well that, the more money we gamble with, the more money we can win if we are lucky, this fact pushes some of us into gamboling with funds we can not afford to lose, all because we are expecting or hoping to win big, for some, it worked and still would for them and others, but for some others, it will most times be a sad tale and a regret filled experience.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: blockman on February 23, 2023, 10:19:03 PM
Yes, too much of everything is bad. That's why if you're a gambler, you need to remember that you don't have to be wholly attached to the games you play.
You win and lose and that's it. If you win, take the money and go away and go back sometime again in the future and if you lose, just accept it and leave the casino so that you won't lose further.
Being too attached and obsessed with a game that is being played in order to get a big win or profit is just an action that will bring a gambler into ruin.
How could it not be, if someone has the option of being able to win big in a game he will unconsciously use all the money he has to continue playing and in the end he will lose all his money.
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
Those rich people will even be disappointed with what they do if the results aren't going according to their likes.
Those that neglect the moment they've got money from their winnings, are the ones to gamble more next when they've got nothing left from those successful rounds and wins.
That's why if someone keeps on forgetting to stack some profits, they'll eventually allow themselves to be in that situation as much as they can.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 24, 2023, 08:00:42 AM
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When a gambler learns to enjoy gambling with joy, he cannot imagine it as a place of income. A gambler can enjoy gambling if he does not think of it as anything else after losing. Many cannot afford losses and are quick enough to recover those losses and are later disappointed by large amounts of losses. Only those who can control gambling without any pressure can realize its joy.
There is absolutely nothing to do in gambling without controlling your emotions.I always adhere to iron rules,namely: never try to recoup.If you lose OK, then you'll be lucky next time.And the second point is to always play only the amount that I am ready to lose.I already had a nagative experience when I lost my entire deposit and tried to recoup while losing the second one,after that I became more careful.

If you have succeeded in using gambling as it should, you will not try to pursue victory, especially if you have gained a bad experience before. And it is true always to use the money we can play gambling so that we will not experience a big defeat that can make us regret it later. By controlling gambling, we will play without any pressure and will not violate the limits we cannot. And by controlling emotions, we can also control our game so that whatever the risks, we can accept it and immediately leave the casino when we are finished or feel enough to play gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on February 24, 2023, 02:08:21 PM
like planning a budget for gambling it is very important to avoid big losses and blowing up all of your salary money or savings.
sometimes it can be hard to control yourself to stop gambling after losing a few dollars. but if we have planned a budget for gambling, surely it will be easier for us to control ourselves to stop gambling after the budget runs out.
so it's better to still plan a budget before gambling to avoid bad things.
That's what i'm doing. Every payday I set aside a money for leisure, it depends on me where I want to spend it but usually it's for gambling. If my budget runs out that's the time to stop, that way I can control myself not to go beyond what I can afford because I also don't want to have problem for not having a limit. So far, it works though sometimes i'm also getting tempted to play longer especially if i'm not yet satisfied, but still, I can refrain.
it looks better than you can't control yourself at all.
because self-control plans a budget for gambling, it is also one way that is a little difficult for gambling addicts or emotional gamblers. Even though they have planned a budget for gambling, sometimes a gambler doesn't feel accepted when the budget for gambling runs out and in the end emotions arise and make another deposit to catch up on the loss.

so if you can control yourself not to break your budget commitment, that's totally true


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 24, 2023, 03:37:56 PM
Yes, too much of everything is bad. That's why if you're a gambler, you need to remember that you don't have to be wholly attached to the games you play.
You win and lose and that's it. If you win, take the money and go away and go back sometime again in the future and if you lose, just accept it and leave the casino so that you won't lose further.
Being too attached and obsessed with a game that is being played in order to get a big win or profit is just an action that will bring a gambler into ruin.
How could it not be, if someone has the option of being able to win big in a game he will unconsciously use all the money he has to continue playing and in the end he will lose all his money.
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
Those rich people will even be disappointed with what they do if the results aren't going according to their likes.
Those that neglect the moment they've got money from their winnings, are the ones to gamble more next when they've got nothing left from those successful rounds and wins.
That's why if someone keeps on forgetting to stack some profits, they'll eventually allow themselves to be in that situation as much as they can.


It is that the first blow that is received when playing is that of failure, when I started playing the first thing I found was that I lost my money very quickly, and thank goodness that at that moment I did not want to make a large deposit because how excited I was what I did was keep betting and betting trying to recover the previous losses and what resulted was losing and losing. What I learned from this is that the games we like, we have to be very careful when betting, and if you have a profit you have to stay put.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on February 26, 2023, 11:41:15 AM
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Well, there are many chess players who have left chess alone to dedicate themselves to poker, this means that the most pioneering people in a sport want to earn money and they know that one way to do it is with poker, I see poker as similar to trading , because you can win or lose, but the greatest responsibility is to make the most appropriate decision, and if you make a mistake, the mistake is ours and there is not much error left attributable to luck, as some do to hide from others, or to avoid shame , I am the opposite, when I lose I say so and if I do not find the reason, then I know that others can see the errors and tell me.

Maybe it's because I play poker much more often that I trade crypto currencies, but I believe that poker is more skill-based than trading. I mean, in poker you can really affect course of the game by your actions, and whether you win or lose depends on what you do more than on luck. In trading if you are not a multi-billionaire you can do nothing about the exchange rate in the future. You only have to be skillful in evaluating the probability of your "win", while in poker you can do much more, you can still win even if your initial evaluation turned out to be wrong.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: famososMuertos on February 26, 2023, 06:49:00 PM
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It is that the first blow that is received when playing is that of failure, when I started playing the first thing I found was that I lost my money very quickly, and thank goodness that at that moment I did not want to make a large deposit because how excited I was what I did was keep betting and betting trying to recover the previous losses and what resulted was losing and losing. What I learned from this is that the games we like, we have to be very careful when betting, and if you have a profit you have to stay put.


What does it mean to stay still, I think that such an assertion is fallacious, that is, if You have a winning or losing section stops because that is the moment when your game session ends.

There is a bad concept in that sense, if on your first play you win $100 nothing happens, if you lose, the same, it is assumed that if you are going to play 1,2,3 hours or whatever time, that is the objective.

 You can also do it by the amounts of profits and losses, for example those $100 but what if they are never met, then you will spend hours and hours, then fatigue comes, etc.

Therefore, it is not about saying, losing, losing, I no longer play! or the fact of winning, I no longer play!.

Not only You have to planning where to play and what games or the money to bet, game time is one of those factors that are ignored in planning and only taken into account when profits or losses appear.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 26, 2023, 08:54:03 PM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.
For someone like Elon Musk, gambling all the money he has away will take a very long time, and even after gambling away all the money he has, he still can not be ever poor because of the kind of investments he already has ..
So in as much as I agree with you that no body's money if unlimited anywhere, I still believe that there are people who have excess money that even if they decide to stop working and start gambling everyday, it can take tens, and for some, hundreds of years before them to ever become poor, if at all, this is possible.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: death69 on February 27, 2023, 09:58:52 AM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.
For someone like Elon Musk, gambling all the money he has away will take a very long time, and even after gambling away all the money he has, he still can not be ever poor because of the kind of investments he already has ..
So in as much as I agree with you that no body's money if unlimited anywhere, I still believe that there are people who have excess money that even if they decide to stop working and start gambling everyday, it can take tens, and for some, hundreds of years before them to ever become poor, if at all, this is possible.
Bruh, lemme tell you something. Yeah, sure, someone with mad bank can probably hit up the casino and gamble for days on end without ever running outta cash, but we gotta think about the ethics of that kinda behavior, ya feel me? Gamblin addiction is no joke, man, and even someone like Elon Musk could get caught up in its negative effects.

And what's the point of throwing away all that cash on games of chance anyway? Seems like a major waste to me, especially when there's so many serious problems in the world that could be solved with that kinda dough. Like, we gotta be smarter with our wealth, use it to make real change, instead of just pissin it all away on some roulette table.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wiss19 on February 27, 2023, 11:10:41 AM
it looks better than you can't control yourself at all.
because self-control plans a budget for gambling, it is also one way that is a little difficult for gambling addicts or emotional gamblers. Even though they have planned a budget for gambling, sometimes a gambler doesn't feel accepted when the budget for gambling runs out and in the end emotions arise and make another deposit to catch up on the loss.

so if you can control yourself not to break your budget commitment, that's totally true
Self-control is an important part of responsible gambling, and it's important to stick to your budget. That may be difficult for some, as emotions can get in the way and make it harder to resist the urge to make another deposit.

However, there are strategies and techniques one can use to help you stay within your budget. Setting limits or taking breaks are good ways to ensure that you don't get carried away. You can also set up a separate account for gambling to better track your spending and stay within the budget you set. Lastly, you can also ask for help from friends and family if you feel like you're losing control. With these strategies, one can stay in control and make sure one doesn't overspend.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 27, 2023, 12:57:53 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.
We all must accept our risks when we gamble just like we usually become so excited when we make good profits from gambling. Gambling can be very frustrating when we are making loses of we make a huge lose that can put us in great pain of why we ever made that kind of bet with heavy risk.
In my understanding,the game should bring pleasure first of all, and not frustration and stress from losing.I always play for the amount that I am ready to lose and perceive it as a payment for the time spent and nothing more.And even if you manage to win some amount, it's like a nice bonus that you can play for in the future without spending your main balance.It is always important to approach the game only with the correct assessment, people who do not know how to control themselves should not play.

   -   Maybe you mean mate, as a gambler the mindset should be to enjoy playing gambling. This is what it should be, enjoy playing, don't think that you should win gambling, that should be secondary to our aim, let's enter a cryptocurrency gambling platform.

Because when we immediately think about winning or profit, you will not feel the enjoyment that is called in a gambling platform. It should be felt not because it's not really good.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Yamifoud on February 27, 2023, 01:39:12 PM
it looks better than you can't control yourself at all.
because self-control plans a budget for gambling, it is also one way that is a little difficult for gambling addicts or emotional gamblers. Even though they have planned a budget for gambling, sometimes a gambler doesn't feel accepted when the budget for gambling runs out and in the end emotions arise and make another deposit to catch up on the loss.

so if you can control yourself not to break your budget commitment, that's totally true
Self-control is an important part of responsible gambling, and it's important to stick to your budget. That may be difficult for some, as emotions can get in the way and make it harder to resist the urge to make another deposit.

However, there are strategies and techniques one can use to help you stay within your budget. Setting limits or taking breaks are good ways to ensure that you don't get carried away. You can also set up a separate account for gambling to better track your spending and stay within the budget you set. Lastly, you can also ask for help from friends and family if you feel like you're losing control. With these strategies, one can stay in control and make sure one doesn't overspend.
But this will only happen if you are vocal to your friends and family about the issue and if you could listen to their advice. Because many gamblers have kept their gambling addiction to anyone until such a time they got surprised when they are terribly in big trouble financially. That is why we should never ever break our limitations and tried to keep them tightly because it was hard when we are already in addiction status.
And also, we have to consider people around us as a part of our life to which we can talk them and hear their opinions as well.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on February 27, 2023, 08:49:32 PM
it looks better than you can't control yourself at all.
because self-control plans a budget for gambling, it is also one way that is a little difficult for gambling addicts or emotional gamblers. Even though they have planned a budget for gambling, sometimes a gambler doesn't feel accepted when the budget for gambling runs out and in the end emotions arise and make another deposit to catch up on the loss.

so if you can control yourself not to break your budget commitment, that's totally true
Self-control is an important part of responsible gambling, and it's important to stick to your budget. That may be difficult for some, as emotions can get in the way and make it harder to resist the urge to make another deposit.

However, there are strategies and techniques one can use to help you stay within your budget. Setting limits or taking breaks are good ways to ensure that you don't get carried away. You can also set up a separate account for gambling to better track your spending and stay within the budget you set. Lastly, you can also ask for help from friends and family if you feel like you're losing control. With these strategies, one can stay in control and make sure one doesn't overspend.

It is very difficult to maintain self-control because emotions are difficult to manage, the best thing for the player is to have the right money for the game, if he has more money he should not take risks because if he loses he would be neglecting expenses that are basic for the person and his family. family, I have read that some addicted gamblers neglect their families, they only dedicate themselves to playing and they do not care, they get out of control, that is what should be avoided and as casino players they should have more common sense.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Desmong on February 27, 2023, 09:13:00 PM
Self-control is an important part of responsible gambling, and it's important to stick to your budget. That may be difficult for some, as emotions can get in the way and make it harder to resist the urge to make another deposit.

However, there are strategies and techniques one can use to help you stay within your budget. Setting limits or taking breaks are good ways to ensure that you don't get carried away. You can also set up a separate account for gambling to better track your spending and stay within the budget you set. Lastly, you can also ask for help from friends and family if you feel like you're losing control. With these strategies, one can stay in control and make sure one doesn't overspend.

It is very difficult to maintain self-control because emotions are difficult to manage, the best thing for the player is to have the right money for the game, if he has more money he should not take risks because if he loses he would be neglecting expenses that are basic for the person and his family. family, I have read that some addicted gamblers neglect their families, they only dedicate themselves to playing and they do not care, they get out of control, that is what should be avoided and as casino players they should have more common sense.

There are so many addicted gamblers in the society that had been eaten to the core. Gambling is all about understanding how the system works so we can always get what we want when we need it. Getting control of the addiction is not easy so we just have to position ourselves in the right way so we can be able to handle things.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Newlifebtc on February 27, 2023, 11:08:20 PM
Self-control is an important part of responsible gambling, and it's important to stick to your budget. That may be difficult for some, as emotions can get in the way and make it harder to resist the urge to make another deposit.

However, there are strategies and techniques one can use to help you stay within your budget. Setting limits or taking breaks are good ways to ensure that you don't get carried away. You can also set up a separate account for gambling to better track your spending and stay within the budget you set. Lastly, you can also ask for help from friends and family if you feel like you're losing control. With these strategies, one can stay in control and make sure one doesn't overspend.

It is very difficult to maintain self-control because emotions are difficult to manage, the best thing for the player is to have the right money for the game, if he has more money he should not take risks because if he loses he would be neglecting expenses that are basic for the person and his family. family, I have read that some addicted gamblers neglect their families, they only dedicate themselves to playing and they do not care, they get out of control, that is what should be avoided and as casino players they should have more common sense.

There are so many addicted gamblers in the society that had been eaten to the core. Gambling is all about understanding how the system works so we can always get what we want when we need it. Getting control of the addiction is not easy so we just have to position ourselves in the right way so we can be able to handle things.

Gambling is a a game for a pleasure and sometimes it is again for multiplication defending the area will understand our own kind of gambling because from my own understanding and gambling I know that the gambling is like a place where by you will make gesture or exercise your feelings so so when somebody being addicted in gambling what that contribute to eat it because of money because he's playing down bowling in order to get to the richer not to get rich


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 28, 2023, 10:53:58 PM
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In fact, gambling addicts will only destroy and bring themselves into misery because it can affect the economy and mental health.
Maybe you or some people can still think well and have the conclusion that gambling is only a place for fun and not a place to get large amounts of legitimate money. But what actually happens in real life is that almost 90% of gamblers play or bet up to become addicted because of the determination and great desire to be able to change their lives from gambling because they think that gambling can make a lot of money easily and quickly.
We cannot deny this because it has become a bad habit for almost all existing gamblers.
After experiencing my uncle's addiction to gambling, I am in full agreement that compulsive gambling is a serious and pressing issue in our society. While gambling can be enjoyable for some, it has the potential to become an unhealthy addiction that harms not only the gambler but also their family, friends, and community if not managed properly. My uncle was addicted to gambling for several years and then ended up bankrupt and left by his wife. People should know the dangers of gambling and know where to get treatment if they suspect they have a problem if they do. Furthermore, governments and communities should provide support structures and resources to aid persons battling gambling addiction. Addiction is a complicated and tough condition to solve, so it's crucial that it be approached with compassion.
Without a doubt, addiction to gambling can bring a lot of problems to a person and his family in life.  This is obvious to all of us. 

Probably, if we return to the topic that we are discussing with you, dear colleagues in our forum, all those people who are more or less addicted to gambling can be safely ranked among the multi-million army of players to whom this topic is dedicated - to  armies of "plebs" players.  These people are, of course, an extreme case among all the plebs, but the problems that gambling created for them are in many ways much more serious than just playing the plebs and small wins / losses of which are simply a payment for the enjoyment of the game.
 Probably, the criterion by which a player is ranked among the plebs should be considered precisely the attitude of the player to loss, as to payment for pleasure. 

That's how it is, probably. :)

Well, you're absolutely right, it couldn't have been said better, what happens is that currently everything that has to do with addiction is a fairly relevant topic and one that should be dealt with very tactfully.

Normally for commoners this type of problem is much more recurrent, since if a millionaire person falls into addiction, it does not affect him much, since he has an easier way of responding to his basic needs and although little by little he is losing capital, you can cope better, it is very different in the case of a middle class player who spends his money in a casino and becoming addicted is a very serious thing.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: slapper on March 01, 2023, 09:18:14 AM
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Well, you're absolutely right, it couldn't have been said better, what happens is that currently everything that has to do with addiction is a fairly relevant topic and one that should be dealt with very tactfully.

Normally for commoners this type of problem is much more recurrent, since if a millionaire person falls into addiction, it does not affect him much, since he has an easier way of responding to his basic needs and although little by little he is losing capital, you can cope better, it is very different in the case of a middle class player who spends his money in a casino and becoming addicted is a very serious thing.

Your point intrigues me, respected fellow. Addiction is a complex subject that affects everyone. We must handle this issue with empathy and compassion. I wonder if we label certain activities "addictive" too quickly. We all have vices, whether it's gambling, shopping, or binge-watching Netflix. Define the border between harmless fun and addiction. What divides them?

Addiction is a serious problem, especially for low-income people. It's unfortunate that these people may lack resources and support networks. Yet, addiction is a sickness that requires compassion and help.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: delfastTions on March 01, 2023, 10:24:14 AM
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Well, you're absolutely right, it couldn't have been said better, what happens is that currently everything that has to do with addiction is a fairly relevant topic and one that should be dealt with very tactfully.

Normally for commoners this type of problem is much more recurrent, since if a millionaire person falls into addiction, it does not affect him much, since he has an easier way of responding to his basic needs and although little by little he is losing capital, you can cope better, it is very different in the case of a middle class player who spends his money in a casino and becoming addicted is a very serious thing.

Your point intrigues me, respected fellow. Addiction is a complex subject that affects everyone. We must handle this issue with empathy and compassion. I wonder if we label certain activities "addictive" too quickly. We all have vices, whether it's gambling, shopping, or binge-watching Netflix. Define the border between harmless fun and addiction. What divides them?

Addiction is a serious problem, especially for low-income people. It's unfortunate that these people may lack resources and support networks. Yet, addiction is a sickness that requires compassion and help.
Another important question, it seems to me, is the question of where the border lies, so to speak, the line when, in general, a harmless game and the usual emotions of a person from this game are already moving into the stage of illness, into the stage of dependence on gambling. 
And when already a simple person, a player who, in accordance with the topic of this topic, can be attributed to plebs players, really needs outside help in the fight and overcoming such dependence.  You correctly noted that the problem is much more serious for players with low or medium incomes.  And it is probably not so problematic for millionaires and rich people, who can even spend a lot of money on the treatment of this addiction and will not even notice that their total capital has decreased. 
For poor people and the middle class, this is certainly not the case at all. 
And often this is precisely the main reason for the difficulties in treating such a gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 01, 2023, 11:06:03 PM
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In fact, gambling addicts will only destroy and bring themselves into misery because it can affect the economy and mental health.
Maybe you or some people can still think well and have the conclusion that gambling is only a place for fun and not a place to get large amounts of legitimate money. But what actually happens in real life is that almost 90% of gamblers play or bet up to become addicted because of the determination and great desire to be able to change their lives from gambling because they think that gambling can make a lot of money easily and quickly.
We cannot deny this because it has become a bad habit for almost all existing gamblers.
After experiencing my uncle's addiction to gambling, I am in full agreement that compulsive gambling is a serious and pressing issue in our society. While gambling can be enjoyable for some, it has the potential to become an unhealthy addiction that harms not only the gambler but also their family, friends, and community if not managed properly. My uncle was addicted to gambling for several years and then ended up bankrupt and left by his wife. People should know the dangers of gambling and know where to get treatment if they suspect they have a problem if they do. Furthermore, governments and communities should provide support structures and resources to aid persons battling gambling addiction. Addiction is a complicated and tough condition to solve, so it's crucial that it be approached with compassion.
I think only those who have a lot of money and only have a hobby of gambling can feel pleasure when playing or betting because basically in the world of gambling those who can get real profits and wins are the owners of gambling places or crypto gambling platforms and the managers in them.
From the story of your uncle's gambling experience, we can make it a lesson and insight that gambling can destroy lives and we can lose everything of value such as family or possessions.
Well, it's true and it seems that the government should provide a rehabilitation place for gambling addicts so that they can be helped apart from gambling addiction and if the government can do this, it will have a very positive impact on its citizens who are addicted to gambling.

The bad thing about compulsive gambling is that it becomes an addiction and that is sometimes handled by the same person without saying so, sometimes the families of the people who suffer from this pathology find out very late, because they can hide the situation as if everything worked Well, the bad thing is when you start to need some basic things at home, or things that are owed start to be collected, the invoices arrive with delays in payments, that's where suspicions begin, then the problem worsens, sometimes Sometimes people fall into depression and sometimes they don't get the perfect solution to deal with depression, and this can be very dangerous for themselves.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: klidex on March 02, 2023, 03:46:12 AM
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A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.
It is true what you have said that no one in the world has unlimited money and how much money you have when used for gambling can also run out without remaining, that is true.
But here, only rich people are willing to bet and take big risks with a lot of bets.
I say once again that they dare to do that because they have more money and what is used to bet is only a small amount of what they have.
I also believe rich people have their own strategy when gambling so that it minimizes the number of losses and they are willing to spend money to be able to get it.


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Those rich people will even be disappointed with what they do if the results aren't going according to their likes.
Those that neglect the moment they've got money from their winnings, are the ones to gamble more next when they've got nothing left from those successful rounds and wins.
That's why if someone keeps on forgetting to stack some profits, they'll eventually allow themselves to be in that situation as much as they can.
It seems not because they have far more money than what they spend.
They bet with a fairly large number of bets so that if they get a win I'm sure the amount will also be very large. We can't even imagine how profitable their victory will be. That way we can conclude that from this win they can definitely cover their previous and subsequent losses.
So the possibility for them to be disappointed and lose a lot of money seems a bit unlikely.


The bad thing about compulsive gambling is that it becomes an addiction and that is sometimes handled by the same person without saying so, sometimes the families of the people who suffer from this pathology find out very late, because they can hide the situation as if everything worked Well, the bad thing is when you start to need some basic things at home, or things that are owed start to be collected, the invoices arrive with delays in payments, that's where suspicions begin, then the problem worsens, sometimes Sometimes people fall into depression and sometimes they don't get the perfect solution to deal with depression, and this can be very dangerous for themselves.
Most gamblers always hide their gambling addiction to anyone even their own family.
So it's no wonder that a gambling addict loses everything and his family just leaves because after all, once he's addicted, he can't stop it and only regrets can be felt.
Actually the role of the family is very important for those who are addicted to gambling because having a family can at least help them reduce gambling a little by inviting them to always do more positive activities and always advise and accompany them when they are experiencing depression due to gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: wxa7115 on March 02, 2023, 03:59:02 AM
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Well, you're absolutely right, it couldn't have been said better, what happens is that currently everything that has to do with addiction is a fairly relevant topic and one that should be dealt with very tactfully.

Normally for commoners this type of problem is much more recurrent, since if a millionaire person falls into addiction, it does not affect him much, since he has an easier way of responding to his basic needs and although little by little he is losing capital, you can cope better, it is very different in the case of a middle class player who spends his money in a casino and becoming addicted is a very serious thing.

Your point intrigues me, respected fellow. Addiction is a complex subject that affects everyone. We must handle this issue with empathy and compassion. I wonder if we label certain activities "addictive" too quickly. We all have vices, whether it's gambling, shopping, or binge-watching Netflix. Define the border between harmless fun and addiction. What divides them?

Addiction is a serious problem, especially for low-income people. It's unfortunate that these people may lack resources and support networks. Yet, addiction is a sickness that requires compassion and help.
Anything that produces pleasure can become addictive, which is why there are people that are addicted to video games, social media, sex, exercise and all kind of activities, however addiction is a very serious problems regardless of the socioeconomic status of each person.

After all there are many stories of people which were addicted to drugs which were eventually arrested and many of them were not even mad about it as they claim being arrested saved their lives, as it opened their eyes about what they were doing and then they took the decision to not do drugs anymore, while a rich person can buy all the drugs they want for years or decades, destroying their body and mind in the process.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wind_FURY on March 02, 2023, 10:09:56 AM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.

For someone like Elon Musk, gambling all the money he has away will take a very long time, and even after gambling away all the money he has, he still can not be ever poor because of the kind of investments he already has ..
So in as much as I agree with you that no body's money if unlimited anywhere, I still believe that there are people who have excess money that even if they decide to stop working and start gambling everyday, it can take tens, and for some, hundreds of years before them to ever become poor, if at all, this is possible.


Talking about Elon Musk, I believe he already made the biggest gamble of his life when he used his money he gained when he sold his shares in PayPal. He used all that money to build the two most risky projects of that time. An Electric Car Company Tesla, and a Rocket Company =SpaceX. All that money would have been merely burned in 5 years if he didn't find success for those companies. That is NOT "a long time".


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 02, 2023, 10:29:49 AM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.

For someone like Elon Musk, gambling all the money he has away will take a very long time, and even after gambling away all the money he has, he still can not be ever poor because of the kind of investments he already has ..
So in as much as I agree with you that no body's money if unlimited anywhere, I still believe that there are people who have excess money that even if they decide to stop working and start gambling everyday, it can take tens, and for some, hundreds of years before them to ever become poor, if at all, this is possible.


Talking about Elon Musk, I believe he already made the biggest gamble of his life when he used his money he gained when he sold his shares in PayPal. He used all that money to build the two most risky projects of that time. An Electric Car Company Tesla, and a Rocket Company =SpaceX. All that money would have been merely burned in 5 years if he didn't find success for those companies. That is NOT "a long time".
Personally, I wouldn't consider building this two companies a gamble or risk that is out of the ordinary, starting up any kind of business at all Is a risk, yes, but do you know what is more riskier? It is not starting any at all.
Tesla today is the leading company in manufacturing of electric vehicle, if Elon musk hadn't started this company when he did, another EV manufacturing company would have been the one enjoying this title by now.
So I personally would say that Elon was a very visionary man who was able to see into the future, and from the money he already had at hand, he prepared and positioned himself to reap greatly from what the future was bringing to humanity, this is not gamble mate, it's having a vision and working to bring such vision to reality.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: paxmao on March 02, 2023, 01:40:14 PM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.
For someone like Elon Musk, gambling all the money he has away will take a very long time, and even after gambling away all the money he has, he still can not be ever poor because of the kind of investments he already has ..
So in as much as I agree with you that no body's money if unlimited anywhere, I still believe that there are people who have excess money that even if they decide to stop working and start gambling everyday, it can take tens, and for some, hundreds of years before them to ever become poor, if at all, this is possible.

Curious that we are talking about Elon. This guy has actually made a career of gambling, except that he does not play casino style odds, but rather do or die business. There was a moment in which they nearly bankrupted Paypal before selling it for a fortune, there was a moment in which he had to put all his personal wealth to make Tesla go ahead,... for his "size", he is quite an addict to gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Peanutswar on March 02, 2023, 02:07:58 PM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.

Gambling is not for poor people if you want to gamble for sure you have enough money to play if you want to expect a huge amount of winning, if you are just a poor gambler with a small amount of pool money its just a long last for a limited number of games and if you didn't hit a jackpot its a bad day for your but if you have more than money for your gambling entertainment you can make a comeback because you can make more spins until you hit a huge amount of multiplier, better to use that money in another efficient way, rich people doesn't care too much with their money because they know there's an asset of a business that could give them back the money they lose in gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: maydna on March 02, 2023, 02:17:55 PM
Anything that produces pleasure can become addictive, which is why there are people that are addicted to video games, social media, sex, exercise and all kind of activities, however addiction is a very serious problems regardless of the socioeconomic status of each person.

After all there are many stories of people which were addicted to drugs which were eventually arrested and many of them were not even mad about it as they claim being arrested saved their lives, as it opened their eyes about what they were doing and then they took the decision to not do drugs anymore, while a rich person can buy all the drugs they want for years or decades, destroying their body and mind in the process.
Something in excess will cause addiction in us so we have to know by doing introspection to find out if we have become addicted to it and whether we need to reduce it if it brings us badly. This needs to be done to prevent addiction from giving us more bad luck so we can prevent it before things get even worse. But most people don't realize it until they've had the worst of it and don't even notice it until someone else tells them they're having a problem.

The same goes for people who are addicted to gambling. They wouldn't notice it, but other people who saw what he was doing were getting worse. They would warn him so they could reduce it. But then again, that person doesn't listen to other people's suggestions but instead continues it because they enjoy it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: redsun114 on March 02, 2023, 02:44:30 PM
It is very difficult to maintain self-control because emotions are difficult to manage, the best thing for the player is to have the right money for the game, if he has more money he should not take risks because if he loses he would be neglecting expenses that are basic for the person and his family. family, I have read that some addicted gamblers neglect their families, they only dedicate themselves to playing and they do not care, they get out of control, that is what should be avoided and as casino players they should have more common sense.
Though it's difficult but it's achievable with constant retries and with some dedication. If a person set up a dedicated budget for gambling, that could save them from those emotional ups and downs and they would be able to stay in there limit when gambling. They should only have a limited amount of money in their gambling wallet and should cease their access to other funds and try to avoid spending more once the gambling wallet balance is exhausted.

It can be very difficult for someone who is very much addicted to gambling, but with some help and consultation and if they try themselves, they can finally control their addict and hopefully be able to live a better and balanced life with their family.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: danadc on March 02, 2023, 10:36:31 PM
If he is a rich person and has more income he probably won't be so disappointed but if he is just a small gambler then it would be better to always have financial and time limits on gambling.
I agree with your suggestion because that way it can make a gambler at least minimize the loss of large amounts of money.
A rich person still can get rekt because his money is limited, there's no any single person in this world have unlimited money including Elon Musk. A rich person might bet with max amount and if he keep gamble everyday, he could become poor and sold all of his assets in order to play and recover all of his losses. So either rich or poor person, they need to set a limit how much they can afford to lose, the difference is the amount of the money.

For someone like Elon Musk, gambling all the money he has away will take a very long time, and even after gambling away all the money he has, he still can not be ever poor because of the kind of investments he already has ..
So in as much as I agree with you that no body's money if unlimited anywhere, I still believe that there are people who have excess money that even if they decide to stop working and start gambling everyday, it can take tens, and for some, hundreds of years before them to ever become poor, if at all, this is possible.


Talking about Elon Musk, I believe he already made the biggest gamble of his life when he used his money he gained when he sold his shares in PayPal. He used all that money to build the two most risky projects of that time. An Electric Car Company Tesla, and a Rocket Company =SpaceX. All that money would have been merely burned in 5 years if he didn't find success for those companies. That is NOT "a long time".
Personally, I wouldn't consider building this two companies a gamble or risk that is out of the ordinary, starting up any kind of business at all Is a risk, yes, but do you know what is more riskier? It is not starting any at all.
Tesla today is the leading company in manufacturing of electric vehicle, if Elon musk hadn't started this company when he did, another EV manufacturing company would have been the one enjoying this title by now.
So I personally would say that Elon was a very visionary man who was able to see into the future, and from the money he already had at hand, he prepared and positioned himself to reap greatly from what the future was bringing to humanity, this is not gamble mate, it's having a vision and working to bring such vision to reality.

Elon is a guy who can get into anything and he can do well, if he is in the gambling or betting areas, he would be a person who would always win, it's as they say, money calls money, that always happens, He is not in the gaming industry for a reason, otherwise he would monopolize all the attention and it is very clear that he would be another gambling tycoon, he has many projects, and I am sure that if he gets into there he would have everything so automated that one industry would be with pure robots.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Mahanton on March 02, 2023, 11:59:16 PM


Elon is a guy who can get into anything and he can do well, if he is in the gambling or betting areas, he would be a person who would always win, it's as they say, money calls money, that always happens, He is not in the gaming industry for a reason, otherwise he would monopolize all the attention and it is very clear that he would be another gambling tycoon, he has many projects, and I am sure that if he gets into there he would have everything so automated that one industry would be with pure robots.

Field of interest would really vary person to person which it is really that obvious that Elon isnt on the gambling industry and rather he would really be just focusing into something that fits out on his interest.
Well its not really that surprising but well lets just set aside with that kind of talk and stick to the topic.

In speaking about strategies and other correlated things into it then i dont really that much in concern about it because most of the time it isnt really just that
precise that you should push yourself for it to work because house do always win and luck would be the biggest factor in speaking about winning.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on March 03, 2023, 04:52:04 AM


Elon is a guy who can get into anything and he can do well, if he is in the gambling or betting areas, he would be a person who would always win, it's as they say, money calls money, that always happens, He is not in the gaming industry for a reason, otherwise he would monopolize all the attention and it is very clear that he would be another gambling tycoon, he has many projects, and I am sure that if he gets into there he would have everything so automated that one industry would be with pure robots.

Field of interest would really vary person to person which it is really that obvious that Elon isnt on the gambling industry and rather he would really be just focusing into something that fits out on his interest.
Well its not really that surprising but well lets just set aside with that kind of talk and stick to the topic.

In speaking about strategies and other correlated things into it then i dont really that much in concern about it because most of the time it isnt really just that
precise that you should push yourself for it to work because house do always win and luck would be the biggest factor in speaking about winning.
Elon knows what he wants as a businessman, so he will focus on it and achieve it.
He has plenty of money to work towards his goals and we shouldn't be surprised if Elon can make up his mind on the fly sometimes.
But we don't know if Elon was also in the gambling business because he could have been even richer if he had opened a casino or a few casinos.
And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: len01 on March 03, 2023, 05:42:54 AM

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And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.
chasing wins is fine for me but what gets worse is chasing big wins, especially pleb gamblers.
because gambling is like a game and we definitely expect to win as a form of our pride that we are able to win occasionally. but keep in mind that we will definitely lose.

so, therefore, what you are saying is true, you don't need to chase victory, but just enjoy your bets in a relaxed manner and if you get a small or big win, it's just a bonus when you gamble at the casino.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Slow death on March 03, 2023, 06:23:52 AM
Elon is a guy who can get into anything and he can do well, if he is in the gambling or betting areas, he would be a person who would always win, it's as they say, money calls money, that always happens, He is not in the gaming industry for a reason, otherwise he would monopolize all the attention and it is very clear that he would be another gambling tycoon, he has many projects, and I am sure that if he gets into there he would have everything so automated that one industry would be with pure robots.

elon is a very rich guy, he has a lot of influences all over the world, he is smart enough to take care of their business that are in the technology field, so creating an online casino would not be a big problem for him, it would not be something difficult for him , and without a doubt that the casino created by him would quickly become the number one online casino, with the largest number of customers and volume of transactions, but the biggest obstacle for him would be the regulations in this sector of cryptocurrencies and online casinos, I very much doubt it that he would want to have a licensed casino in curacao, without a doubt he would want to have a license in the usa or european countries, and we all know that obtaining a license in the usa and europe will not succeed, even though he is a rich and powerful guy , these countries in europe and usa are tough on online gambling license


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And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.
chasing wins is fine for me but what gets worse is chasing big wins, especially pleb gamblers.
because gambling is like a game and we definitely expect to win as a form of our pride that we are able to win occasionally. but keep in mind that we will definitely lose.

so, therefore, what you are saying is true, you don't need to chase victory, but just enjoy your bets in a relaxed manner and if you get a small or big win, it's just a bonus when you gamble at the casino.

I also do not agree with this type of thinking of chasing losses, but it is important to see that in casinos, particularly in sports betting, if a person keeps - if he always makes simple bets, that person ends up losing money at the end of the day, that person can even win in 4 consecutive games, but it is enough to lose in just 2 games to enter the loss, and for this reason that many people have resorted to muiltbet betting in which odds are above @4.00 or even above @10.00 that when the person wins they would have a big profit that will allow you to withdraw a part and continue playing with another part


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Strongkored on March 03, 2023, 07:10:58 AM

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And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.
chasing wins is fine for me but what gets worse is chasing big wins, especially pleb gamblers.
because gambling is like a game and we definitely expect to win as a form of our pride that we are able to win occasionally. but keep in mind that we will definitely lose.

so, therefore, what you are saying is true, you don't need to chase victory, but just enjoy your bets in a relaxed manner and if you get a small or big win, it's just a bonus when you gamble at the casino.

The pursuit of win or big wins is the same in my opinion, there is a price to be paid and sometimes the money used to pursue it is spent more than what will be obtained, we can just try to calculate how much is needed to be able to achieve what we want. but it won't always go according to our calculations because gambling is difficult to predict both casino games and sports betting, so stay calm playing and accept any results without the need to take revenge to achieve more because that can make us lose control and end up in something which is even more disappointing


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Kelvinid on March 03, 2023, 01:33:55 PM

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And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.
chasing wins is fine for me but what gets worse is chasing big wins, especially pleb gamblers.
because gambling is like a game and we definitely expect to win as a form of our pride that we are able to win occasionally. but keep in mind that we will definitely lose.

so, therefore, what you are saying is true, you don't need to chase victory, but just enjoy your bets in a relaxed manner and if you get a small or big win, it's just a bonus when you gamble at the casino.

The pursuit of win or big wins is the same in my opinion, there is a price to be paid and sometimes the money used to pursue it is spent more than what will be obtained, we can just try to calculate how much is needed to be able to achieve what we want. but it won't always go according to our calculations because gambling is difficult to predict both casino games and sports betting, so stay calm playing and accept any results without the need to take revenge to achieve more because that can make us lose control and end up in something which is even more disappointing
That really happens in gambling because we usually just rely on luck and if we are too unlucky, winning is impossible. Calculating what we possibly get is useless because not even sure we win. In fact, though we have huge chances of winning in sports betting but the truth is that, not all the time we win and it means that we can't predict the game 100%. How much more playing in casinos that only rely on 100% luck like lottery and dice games?


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 03, 2023, 01:35:59 PM
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It should have been better for you if you set your boundaries that time. Did you really mean to allocate all of that money for that gambling session? If you do, I wish you accepted the risk of possibly losing all of the money before you continued playing. Well, I can't blame you, it is really hard sometimes to hold ourselves from playing. Let us be more disciplined next time though.

These situations are difficult, because losing money from a salary in the game must feel like the worst thing in the world, however I am sure that you learned many things there, first of all, how to manage your capital very well, knowing that when you enter a casino you must allocate a part of the money totally willing to lose and finally to enjoy, I have lost a lot in casinos, in fact before I had control with an Excel sheet, now what I do is basically see the game as entertainment , where I do not think about winning, only about enjoying, if the profits come perfect! I enjoy them, otherwise I have that attitude towards the game.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Pandu Geddon on March 03, 2023, 01:47:56 PM
so stay calm playing and accept any results without the need to take revenge to achieve more because that can make us lose control and end up in something which is even more disappointing
the feeling of wanting revenge when we lose is bigger when we play at the casino. this will differ from sports betting. even though both will be difficult to predict, the impact on our emotions when we lose will be different.
I feel when I lose a soccer bet, even though I'm annoyed, it doesn't arouse curiosity to win or even revenge.
different when you play at the casino, such as slots, dice, and card games. even though you keep losing it will grow curiosity about big wins. more potential for loss of control in the game at the casino. I don't know what happened to the other gamblers, but I noticed that more money was lost than wins were made.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Hispo on March 03, 2023, 02:36:16 PM

We should not underestimate the ability of Elon Musk to get into any kind of business, let us remember that he (not long ago) got into the industry of perfume by launching his own bottle, called "burnt hair". The perfume was a success which prooves how much of advertisement power that man has to make his products to be a best seller.

you can read more about it here.

Elon Musk sells $1 million worth of new perfume, 'Burnt Hair'

https://i.ibb.co/Gd8qnt3/httgg.png (https://ibb.co/10Pk7dJ)

Source: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/oddly-enough/elon-musk-sells-1-million-worth-quirky-new-perfume-burnt-hair-2022-10-12/

If he opened a casino, I believe it would go nice if he hired able people, as you said. But it is not always about advertisement and promotion, it would need quality games and events to keep people hooked, otherwise gamblers would leave.

Another thing to keep in mind (besides regulations) is the fact he would be politically attacked by many powerful people who wish him harm, he is already despised because he bought Twitter and things like that, imagine what would happen if he actually tried to open a casino.  ::)





Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Wapfika on March 03, 2023, 05:08:08 PM
These situations are difficult, because losing money from a salary in the game must feel like the worst thing in the world, however I am sure that you learned many things there, first of all, how to manage your capital very well, knowing that when you enter a casino you must allocate a part of the money totally willing to lose and finally to enjoy, I have lost a lot in casinos, in fact before I had control with an Excel sheet, now what I do is basically see the game as entertainment , where I do not think about winning, only about enjoying, if the profits come perfect! I enjoy them, otherwise I have that attitude towards the game.


Actually the source of the money is not a big deal but it’s amount and importance of it matter most. On the quoted post. He use his whole salary and lose it all. This is surely sucks because he loss all his budget. Losing part of salary is still acceptable because you can recover on the next pay roll without affecting your daily necessities expenses.

I believe losing money that you will need later on to your daily needs is the most sucks thing to experience on gambling loss.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Bushdark on March 03, 2023, 08:16:11 PM

The pursuit of win or big wins is the same in my opinion, there is a price to be paid and sometimes the money used to pursue it is spent more than what will be obtained, we can just try to calculate how much is needed to be able to achieve what we want. but it won't always go according to our calculations because gambling is difficult to predict both casino games and sports betting, so stay calm playing and accept any results without the need to take revenge to achieve more because that can make us lose control and end up in something which is even more disappointing
That really happens in gambling because we usually just rely on luck and if we are too unlucky, winning is impossible. Calculating what we possibly get is useless because not even sure we win. In fact, though we have huge chances of winning in sports betting but the truth is that, not all the time we win and it means that we can't predict the game 100%. How much more playing in casinos that only rely on 100% luck like lottery and dice games?
Maybe you don't know that there are gamblers that had used luck to win big amount of money from betting and it is mostly applicable to dice game. Dice is one of the funny bet I do make and it is major based on luck. There was a time I do make good profits from dice and it got to a time when I don't make money like before again. Betting is not as easy like we see big boy betting with huge amount of money and if they lose, they are still willing to bet more. Luck is very important in gambling and we should not dispute that because it had helped me and other gamblers too.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: traderethereum on March 04, 2023, 04:05:09 AM

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And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.
chasing wins is fine for me but what gets worse is chasing big wins, especially pleb gamblers.
because gambling is like a game and we definitely expect to win as a form of our pride that we are able to win occasionally. but keep in mind that we will definitely lose.

so, therefore, what you are saying is true, you don't need to chase victory, but just enjoy your bets in a relaxed manner and if you get a small or big win, it's just a bonus when you gamble at the casino.
Chasing winning is a problem for me because I've had bad experiences.
For the first round, I failed to get a win and I continued playing for the second round, but that also failed and gave me a loss for the second time.
But I tried to play again in the third and fourth rounds, but they all failed.
From there, I thought that if I had lost two rounds, maybe I really should stop to save the rest of my money.
And since then, I don't try to chase wins or recover losses because that can lead to other losses and I try to enjoy and let go of the disappointment because of that loss.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: redsun114 on March 04, 2023, 05:44:24 PM
Elon knows what he wants as a businessman, so he will focus on it and achieve it.
He has plenty of money to work towards his goals and we shouldn't be surprised if Elon can make up his mind on the fly sometimes.
But we don't know if Elon was also in the gambling business because he could have been even richer if he had opened a casino or a few casinos.
And ordinary gamblers like us can only play moderately and don't need to overdo it while we also don't need to chase victory like other people.
Elon is a kind of a person who likes to do things that could be useful for humankind in the future, at least that's what he says about himself. So, I doubt if he would ever take any interest in gambling, especially as a business, he may play a game or two at times just to pass the time without getting public notice about it, but I even doubt that.

He is more into tech, cars, rockets, and all things scientific, and that is what his caliber of people should do. I mean would it really suit Elon musk placing bets on FC Barcelona to win a match against Real Madrid? That's not just his thing.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: nakamura12 on March 04, 2023, 06:13:38 PM
Elon is a kind of a person who likes to do things that could be useful for humankind in the future, at least that's what he says about himself. So, I doubt if he would ever take any interest in gambling, especially as a business, he may play a game or two at times just to pass the time without getting public notice about it, but I even doubt that.

He is more into tech, cars, rockets, and all things scientific, and that is what his caliber of people should do. I mean would it really suit Elon musk placing bets on FC Barcelona to win a match against Real Madrid? That's not just his thing.
I definitely agree with you that Elon mask is more into cars, techs and rockets but it doesn't mean he can't do cryptocurrency. In short, if elon musk want to use his influence in his own part of what he's into in cryptocurrency then I am not against it. I would only use his tips as I call it and then make a research on my own then compare it to my own data instead of doing what elon is sharing. Let's say I am into automotive and I dive into cryptocurrency so that's why I can say that cryptocurrency is for all those who are interested in it. I couldn't disagree that elon musk is moren into tech, cars and rockets but as I have said that it is not a barrier that stops elon musk in involving with crypto.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 04, 2023, 06:59:09 PM
Elon is a kind of a person who likes to do things that could be useful for humankind in the future, at least that's what he says about himself. So, I doubt if he would ever take any interest in gambling, especially as a business, he may play a game or two at times just to pass the time without getting public notice about it, but I even doubt that.

He is more into tech, cars, rockets, and all things scientific, and that is what his caliber of people should do. I mean would it really suit Elon musk placing bets on FC Barcelona to win a match against Real Madrid? That's not just his thing.
I definitely agree with you that Elon mask is more into cars, techs and rockets but it doesn't mean he can't do cryptocurrency. In short, if elon musk want to use his influence in his own part of what he's into in cryptocurrency then I am not against it. I would only use his tips as I call it and then make a research on my own then compare it to my own data instead of doing what elon is sharing. Let's say I am into automotive and I dive into cryptocurrency so that's why I can say that cryptocurrency is for all those who are interested in it. I couldn't disagree that elon musk is moren into tech, cars and rockets but as I have said that it is not a barrier that stops elon musk in involving with crypto.
Sorry mate, the discussion is not about Elon doing cryptocurrency, but gambling, Elon musk is already doing cryptocurrency and have been into it for a few years now, those who are current with happenings in crypto knows that all the hype around meme coins emanated from Elon musk's support and shills of dogecoin, which i believe is the first original meme coin in cryptocurrency.
Elon have invested billions of dollars in bitcoin in previous years, though he sold some, but as of right now, he is still holding a good amount of bitcoin, he as also made billions of dollars from hyping meme coins, most especially, doge coin.

But then, like i said before, the discussion is not about Elon doing cryptocurrency, which he is already into, but its more of Elon doing gambling.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: Betwrong on March 05, 2023, 10:50:35 AM
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Addiction is a serious problem, especially for low-income people. It's unfortunate that these people may lack resources and support networks. Yet, addiction is a sickness that requires compassion and help.

Addiction is a serious problem regardless of the income. People lose millions USD to gambling, and in some cases tens of millions. No one should be thinking "I'm rich, so I can be addicted to gambling, and nothing bad will happen to me." No. Addiction will eat you from the inside, and losing your money, that's actually not the biggest problem, even.

And yes, I agree, it is a sickness, and it requires compassion and help. But not the kind of compassion like "Oh, poor thing, he's addicted. That's just what he is. Let him gamble if he cannot live any other way." Not that kind of compassion.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: maydna on March 05, 2023, 04:16:26 PM
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Addiction is a serious problem, especially for low-income people. It's unfortunate that these people may lack resources and support networks. Yet, addiction is a sickness that requires compassion and help.

Addiction is a serious problem regardless of the income. People lose millions USD to gambling, and in some cases tens of millions. No one should be thinking "I'm rich, so I can be addicted to gambling, and nothing bad will happen to me." No. Addiction will eat you from the inside, and losing your money, that's actually not the biggest problem, even.

And yes, I agree, it is a sickness, and it requires compassion and help. But not the kind of compassion like "Oh, poor thing, he's addicted. That's just what he is. Let him gamble if he cannot live any other way." Not that kind of compassion.
What an addicted gambler needs is attention from the people closest to him who are trying to help him get out of his problem. Gambling addiction is indeed difficult to cure without the help of other people and self-awareness to cure the addiction. Gambling addiction does not look at whether the person is making tens of millions of dollars from his job or even someone who doesn't work at all or can only make a few dollars daily. And before we experience gambling addiction, we should be aware of it and try to protect ourselves as best we can from gambling addiction problems. Otherwise, we will have the same difficulty in curing it.


Title: Re: Casino games plebs like us must play
Post by: dezoel on March 05, 2023, 08:18:19 PM
I definitely agree with you that Elon mask is more into cars, techs and rockets but it doesn't mean he can't do cryptocurrency. In short, if elon musk want to use his influence in his own part of what he's into in cryptocurrency then I am not against it. I would only use his tips as I call it and then make a research on my own then compare it to my own data instead of doing what elon is sharing. Let's say I am into automotive and I dive into cryptocurrency so that's why I can say that cryptocurrency is for all those who are interested in it. I couldn't disagree that elon musk is moren into tech, cars and rockets but as I have said that it is not a barrier that stops elon musk in involving with crypto.
But who would have thought that the great Elon Musk who are best known for those things you guys mentioned above will buy Twitter? And who would have thought that he will use and regularly promote a meme crypto called Doge coin? If those things are possible in the past then why not on other things, gambling?

People only hate Elon because they think he is manipulating the crypto market but let's admit it that he also helps the crypto adoption to grow bigger. Not just crypto but all things are for all. Even if they don't have any interest at it at first but as long as they will force their self to it, they will soon like it sincerely or genuinely.