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Title: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on March 21, 2023, 09:04:32 AM
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Another big fight coming up! There's been a lot of talks already about the lineal and former undisputed champion Josh Taylor fighting Teofimo Lopez. Today it is confirmed that both fighters will duke it out this coming June 10. It's weird since Josh Taylor was supposed to rematch Jack Caterrall in what was supposed to be his last fight in the division before moving up to 147. Now Caterall is anxious and mad knowing Taylor will stay in the division and will face Teofimo Lopez. Teofimo Lopez had a bad performance against Sandor Martin in his last fight. Unluckily for Sandor Martin, he was robbed of another upset victory.  

Professional win-loss-KO/TKO records
Josh Taylor: 19-0-13 KOs
Teofimo Lopez: 18-1-13 KOs

My take is prime Josh Taylor would've easily schooled Teofimo Lopez and might take him out in the late rounds. But considering the 1-year inactivity of Josh Taylor and he admitted before that making weight is so difficult already as he aged. Earlier, the only reason Taylor stayed for 1 last fight against Caterrall is in order to settle their controversial first fight. Now I am not counting out Lopez as we do not how what version of Taylor will show this June 10. But I still believe Taylor will be the slight favorite here.    

Source: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23399782.teofimo-lopez-confirms-date-proposed-josh-taylor-bout/


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: kenshi222 on March 21, 2023, 10:24:29 AM
The records of this two players was almost same,but Josh Taylor was the opinion of the most of the gamblers.Because his strength was huge compared to the Lopez.Taylor had their huge records in the ring as compared to the Lopez.The Knockout time of the Taylor was less as compared to the Lopez.The punching power of the Taylor was huge and expensive one comparison to the Lopez.It doesn’t mean the Lopez was potential less and power less player,while comparing among this two players.Josh Taylor will be the opinion for the most of the gamblers.This is not by the single game of Tylor,this is because of most of tylor was huge difference in the knockout of all the games,his knockout styke was huge different one.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Rabata on March 21, 2023, 12:00:39 PM
This match is very important for Lopez. Some of his defeats have sparked reactions. Lopez has not been in top form, with his loss to  George Kambosos Jr. indicating a mixed performance against Sandor Martin. After all June 10 we will see them which will really inspire the audience.

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Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Westinhome on March 21, 2023, 12:05:41 PM
The past strategy of the player was same and the Knockout strategy also same.So my opinion is the game going to draw,most of the gamblers won’t like the game to became a draw.Because the draw game will make the both the fans to lose their bet.Most of the supporters was preferring the Knockout by the Taylor,because most of the fans prepare the Taylor to win the match with knockout.Instead of making the bet on the one player,you can bet certain on one player and remaining on another player.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 21, 2023, 12:16:10 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

Remember Jack Catterall was give a good fight with Taylor, but the judges tend to favor on Taylor. I think Lopez must KO Taylor if he want to win, if it goes to distance Taylor should be the winner.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: yazher on March 21, 2023, 12:24:37 PM
It's obvious Josh Taylor is the one who is the real upper hand in this fight and it would really be a major test for Lopez to get through this guy because this is the fighter you can't show some lazy defense because he will gonna finish you in the early rounds. My prediction here is TKO because we already know how strong Josh Taylor is in this weight division and this fight here is his message for his next opponents in the upper division it means he will go to each one of them and they gonna need to watch out. Hope that he will win easily on this one and will gonna move there fast.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: elevates on March 21, 2023, 12:40:46 PM
I was going through the individual stats and found Josh Taylor is still unbeaten. If I look back and check the fights of Teofimo I would say he is no where close to Taylor. I am not sure what made Teofimo challenge Taylor for a fight when he knows he cannot defeat him. It is still in the early stages as Taylor has not yet confirmed that he will fight. Ultimately he will accept the challenge and will also be able to defend his title.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: TopTort777 on March 21, 2023, 12:41:56 PM
This match is very important for Lopez. Some of his defeats have sparked reactions. Lopez has not been in top form, with his loss to  George Kambosos Jr. indicating a mixed performance against Sandor Martin. After all June 10 we will see them which will really inspire the audience.

Defeats? He has lost only once. I will be supporting Taylor in this fight. I dont like Lopez and what he has become after his fight against Lomachenko. He has defeated a very strong opponent and that made him lost his mind. His father made him believe that he is not the greatest and unbeatable, that he will now decide who is going to be defeated next. Glad that Kambosos has brought him down from heaven to earth.  Taylow has a perfect record, he is more experienced, is higher and has reach advantage. Everything points on that Taylor is going to win imho.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: YOSHIE on March 21, 2023, 01:07:23 PM
Professional win-loss-KO/TKO records
Josh Taylor: 19-0-13 KOs
Anthony Yarde:   18-1-13 KOs
Good odds are going to happen for the boxing event between Taylor and Teofimo, I have seen the live stream of their fight next June 10th, both have a good shot at the WBO junior welterweight title, I'm sure Josh is well prepared to fight Lopez in the ring.

I saw Taylor's last fight in 2022, he managed to defend the super lightweight champion and beat a boxer from England, I keep statistical records about Taylor and also I am one of his fans. i like him boxing in the ring, beating his opponent.

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For the boxing fight between Taylor vs. Teofimo, I'm picking A for boxing's last point.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bittraffic on March 21, 2023, 04:35:22 PM
I was going through the individual stats and found Josh Taylor is still unbeaten. If I look back and check the fights of Teofimo I would say he is no where close to Taylor. I am not sure what made Teofimo challenge Taylor for a fight when he knows he cannot defeat him. It is still in the early stages as Taylor has not yet confirmed that he will fight. Ultimately he will accept the challenge and will also be able to defend his title.

Both are looking weak.
Lopez has weird records somehow he managed to beat Loma yet was also close to losing against Sandor. He still manages to capitalize on Loma's loss giving more fights with weird results. I wouldn't say he could win but with his luck, he might actually just kick Taylor for cherry-picking, and if that is the case it's Lopez fighting Cattrall.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on March 21, 2023, 10:58:36 PM
Great move by Top Rank to give Lopez a chance to get a belt at 140 lbs, hehehe. It was supposedly a rematch between Taylor and Catterall, but Josh got injured or something and so they postponed it. However, this news surfaces a few weeks after that and Catterall was sidestep by the announcement. But he can't do anything as this is official now. Yeah, lots of issues with Josh now, his fight with Catterall was controversial, having problems making the weight limit and his injuries. And with that, Lopez will definitely be a live dog against the champion here. He doesn't look good or sharp at 140 lbs in my opinion, but this is a opportunity that he won't passed and so I'm giving him a chance to pull an upset.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: aioc on March 22, 2023, 09:23:13 PM
I still believe that Teofimo has huge potential he is young but reckless, and he needs a good coach and trainer and part ways with his father, his ego is too big he is like Romero who thinks he is the next big thing in boxing, he is fast and strong but lacks the control and technical skill, he hasn't mature yet and he is fighting a guy who can exploit those weaknesses.
This is a very even match for me but if Romero can correct those errors he can upset Josh Taylor, Romero should minimize those thrash talks, his thrash talks come with him in the ring so sometimes he is out of focus.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on March 23, 2023, 02:13:50 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

Remember Jack Catterall was give a good fight with Taylor, but the judges tend to favor on Taylor. I think Lopez must KO Taylor if he want to win, if it goes to distance Taylor should be the winner.

I am surprised Bob Arum did this fight as well. I am not sure who is the bigger draw since both are popular although I think Lopez is slightly the bigger draw especially if we are talking about the US market. This is a big risk to Lopez but this might be the only way for him to beat Taylor who's been inactive and at the same time showed a poor performance against Catterall on his last outing. Catterall did well and might deserve that win but the best of Taylor was supposed to just steamroll him that night.

The fight will be in the US so if the rounds are close, the judges might favor Lopez. Devin Haney should he win over Loma might be next if Lopez wins. Taylor might seriously move up in weight after this win or lose.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Cling18 on March 23, 2023, 04:46:35 PM
I've watched some of Lopez' previous matches and I could say that he had a hard time beating some of his opponents. I think that's something that he should work on since they almost have the same record as Taylor. Though it is obvious that Lopez has huge potential though he's still in the process of establishing a good record. I hope he'll grab this chance to prove that his previous winning matches were not just won by luck.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bittraffic on March 23, 2023, 05:36:59 PM
I've watched some of Lopez' previous matches and I could say that he had a hard time beating some of his opponents. I think that's something that he should work on since they almost have the same record as Taylor. Though it is obvious that Lopez has huge potential though he's still in the process of establishing a good record. I hope he'll grab this chance to prove that his previous winning matches were not just won by luck.

Lopez has a record of 18 wins and 1 loss. A boxer can't just smash the 18 pro boxers by luck. He even beat Loma, that's quite a plus for Lopez, you can't be a nobody with a such win.

Taylor's last fight with Cattral was also controversial, people look at it as robbery. It would have been best to put an end to the doubts. Catteral would be a good fight and not the WBO's will for him to fight Lopez.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on March 23, 2023, 10:29:18 PM
I know this is coming after the bout against Kambosos, his father predicted it, because he knows the boxing community wants to see Lopez against top fighters in whatever division he is in because of what he is bringing into the ring.
Josh Taylor is good but Lopez is hungry for recognition, he lost the reputation he once had when he lost to Kambosos and this is just the perfect opportunity to get it back.
He needs a good trainer not a motivational trainer like his father, Taylor will not be an easy fight for Lopez, but so is Lopez for Taylor.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on March 24, 2023, 11:57:05 AM
I've watched some of Lopez' previous matches and I could say that he had a hard time beating some of his opponents. I think that's something that he should work on since they almost have the same record as Taylor. Though it is obvious that Lopez has huge potential though he's still in the process of establishing a good record. I hope he'll grab this chance to prove that his previous winning matches were not just won by luck.

Lopez has a record of 18 wins and 1 loss. A boxer can't just smash the 18 pro boxers by luck. He even beat Loma, that's quite a plus for Lopez, you can't be a nobody with a such win.

Taylor's last fight with Cattral was also controversial, people look at it as robbery. It would have been best to put an end to the doubts. Catteral would be a good fight and not the WBO's will for him to fight Lopez.

No doubt that he beat Loma, no question about it, but then again, Loma is not 100%, so maybe the outcome would be close or very different. Same with Lopez, he was in his prime, although one issues is that he has also a hard time hitting 140 lbs. And so was a narrowing decision win against Catterall. And they are supposed to fight for a rematch, but not going to happen.

So this fight could be another break for Lopez, or Josh Taylor winning but might be moving to the higher weight division because he might not make the 140 lbs if he insists to stay here. I haven't seen the odds but it might be close.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on March 24, 2023, 01:32:20 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

Remember Jack Catterall was give a good fight with Taylor, but the judges tend to favor on Taylor. I think Lopez must KO Taylor if he want to win, if it goes to distance Taylor should be the winner.

I am surprised Bob Arum did this fight as well. I am not sure who is the bigger draw since both are popular although I think Lopez is slightly the bigger draw especially if we are talking about the US market. This is a big risk to Lopez but this might be the only way for him to beat Taylor who's been inactive and at the same time showed a poor performance against Catterall on his last outing. Catterall did well and might deserve that win but the best of Taylor was supposed to just steamroll him that night.

The fight will be in the US so if the rounds are close, the judges might favor Lopez. Devin Haney should he win over Loma might be next if Lopez wins. Taylor might seriously move up in weight after this win or lose.

Yes, I believed that Lopez is the bigger draw between the two specially if the fight is in the US. Maybe if this push through in UK, Josh Taylor will be the A-side. I think it's a good move by Bob Arum to bring Josh Taylor to US soil to exposed him because not everyone knows that he unify the belt in 140 lbs although he beat Ramirez in Las Vegas. But in his next fight which is against Jack Catterall it was in Glasglow.

So if Taylor wanted to established his name, he should be fighting in the US more often starting in this fight against Lopez.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: robelneo on March 24, 2023, 04:13:11 PM
The fight is a challenge for both fighters, I have seen Lopez's best performance and so is Josh Taylor, Lopez's last fight was not good because Sandor did not come to fight if Taylor comes to fight then we will have a good fight here, both fighters will be tested here, many think that Taylor has a slight edge over Teofimo but a focus Teofimo can rule out that edge and there's a possibility that he can beat Taylor just like he did to Loma.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on March 25, 2023, 05:49:21 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

Remember Jack Catterall was give a good fight with Taylor, but the judges tend to favor on Taylor. I think Lopez must KO Taylor if he want to win, if it goes to distance Taylor should be the winner.

I am surprised Bob Arum did this fight as well. I am not sure who is the bigger draw since both are popular although I think Lopez is slightly the bigger draw especially if we are talking about the US market. This is a big risk to Lopez but this might be the only way for him to beat Taylor who's been inactive and at the same time showed a poor performance against Catterall on his last outing. Catterall did well and might deserve that win but the best of Taylor was supposed to just steamroll him that night.

The fight will be in the US so if the rounds are close, the judges might favor Lopez. Devin Haney should he win over Loma might be next if Lopez wins. Taylor might seriously move up in weight after this win or lose.

Yes, I believed that Lopez is the bigger draw between the two specially if the fight is in the US. Maybe if this push through in UK, Josh Taylor will be the A-side. I think it's a good move by Bob Arum to bring Josh Taylor to US soil to exposed him because not everyone knows that he unify the belt in 140 lbs although he beat Ramirez in Las Vegas. But in his next fight which is against Jack Catterall it was in Glasglow.

So if Taylor wanted to established his name, he should be fighting in the US more often starting in this fight against Lopez.

I think it's not like that, Josh Taylor would've get the fight in UK if that's the deal in this bout but since this fight is going to happen in US soil, they might've got a good deal where they got Taylor's confirmation. As usual, Josh Taylor will be on the A-side because he is the WBO champion and will be a slight favorite among the bookies list. But comparing between the two of them, this will be a hard fight for Teo Lopez because Taylor is not an easy one. Even that 1 year inactivity probably won't have any setbacks on his side.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on March 25, 2023, 09:29:43 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

Remember Jack Catterall was give a good fight with Taylor, but the judges tend to favor on Taylor. I think Lopez must KO Taylor if he want to win, if it goes to distance Taylor should be the winner.

I am surprised Bob Arum did this fight as well. I am not sure who is the bigger draw since both are popular although I think Lopez is slightly the bigger draw especially if we are talking about the US market. This is a big risk to Lopez but this might be the only way for him to beat Taylor who's been inactive and at the same time showed a poor performance against Catterall on his last outing. Catterall did well and might deserve that win but the best of Taylor was supposed to just steamroll him that night.

The fight will be in the US so if the rounds are close, the judges might favor Lopez. Devin Haney should he win over Loma might be next if Lopez wins. Taylor might seriously move up in weight after this win or lose.

Yes, I believed that Lopez is the bigger draw between the two specially if the fight is in the US. Maybe if this push through in UK, Josh Taylor will be the A-side. I think it's a good move by Bob Arum to bring Josh Taylor to US soil to exposed him because not everyone knows that he unify the belt in 140 lbs although he beat Ramirez in Las Vegas. But in his next fight which is against Jack Catterall it was in Glasglow.

So if Taylor wanted to established his name, he should be fighting in the US more often starting in this fight against Lopez.

I think it's not like that, Josh Taylor would've get the fight in UK if that's the deal in this bout but since this fight is going to happen in US soil, they might've got a good deal where they got Taylor's confirmation. As usual, Josh Taylor will be on the A-side because he is the WBO champion and will be a slight favorite among the bookies list. But comparing between the two of them, this will be a hard fight for Teo Lopez because Taylor is not an easy one. Even that 1 year inactivity probably won't have any setbacks on his side.

And most likely that's what the main reason for him to stage this fight in the US. Yeah, he can demand a UK fight, but US soil, there is more money in there, and probably his fans will likely travel to the US too to see him fight. So it's a win win for him, instead of a rematch with Jack which might not be enough money as it will be in the UK. But I agree that this is a hard fight for either boxers, Taylor is the man to beat in this division as he is the former unified champion as he just gave up the other belt because it's hard to defend them to their mandatories. And one mistake is that he chooses Jack as his mandatory and it almost cause him his belt.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on March 25, 2023, 10:31:37 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

I agree with you mate, if we were to gauge Lopez on his last fight with Martin then this coming fight with Taylor would be a disaster for him, i mean he struggled against a not so popular Martin and i even scored the fight in favor of Martin (just my opinion) and with Taylor who is a unified champion and bigger than him, sure this will be a tough hill to climb for him. The only chink in the armor on the side of Tylor is his inactivity in the ring for more than a year now but i think hard training can offset that disadvantage.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: BitcoinPanther on March 25, 2023, 10:35:22 PM
But I agree that this is a hard fight for either boxers, Taylor is the man to beat in this division as he is the former unified champion as he just gave up the other belt because it's hard to defend them to their mandatories. And one mistake is that he chooses Jack as his mandatory and it almost cause him his belt.

True, this is a tough fight for both boxers.  With almost the same record and capability, I think the one who has the better preparation and luck will win.  Honestly, they are evenly match.

The fight is a challenge for both fighters, I have seen Lopez's best performance and so is Josh Taylor, Lopez's last fight was not good because Sandor did not come to fight if Taylor comes to fight then we will have a good fight here, both fighters will be tested here, many think that Taylor has a slight edge over Teofimo but a focus Teofimo can rule out that edge and there's a possibility that he can beat Taylor just like he did to Loma.

Yeah the fight is a challenge for both fighter, even I am having a hard time to which one to bet on that will win the fight.  I think this depends on who is more hungry and more dedicated in winning the fight.  About why other people thinks that Taylor has a slight edge over Teofimo is possibly because of the ring record.  Taylor had not been beaten even once while Teofimo Lopez records got tainted when he fought Kambosos.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on March 27, 2023, 04:51:45 PM
Another good fight, but it's really risky for Lopez to take this challenge, he's like beat the best boxer in light welterweight. However he reminds me when he take a challenge to fight with Lomachenko, where at that time Lomachenko is the best boxer in lightweight. The difference is Lopez was beat every boxers easily before fight with Lomachenko, this time he was struggling when he fought Sandor Martin, so I don't really expect Lopez will win this fight.

Remember Jack Catterall was give a good fight with Taylor, but the judges tend to favor on Taylor. I think Lopez must KO Taylor if he want to win, if it goes to distance Taylor should be the winner.

I am surprised Bob Arum did this fight as well. I am not sure who is the bigger draw since both are popular although I think Lopez is slightly the bigger draw especially if we are talking about the US market. This is a big risk to Lopez but this might be the only way for him to beat Taylor who's been inactive and at the same time showed a poor performance against Catterall on his last outing. Catterall did well and might deserve that win but the best of Taylor was supposed to just steamroll him that night.

The fight will be in the US so if the rounds are close, the judges might favor Lopez. Devin Haney should he win over Loma might be next if Lopez wins. Taylor might seriously move up in weight after this win or lose.

Yes, I believed that Lopez is the bigger draw between the two specially if the fight is in the US. Maybe if this push through in UK, Josh Taylor will be the A-side. I think it's a good move by Bob Arum to bring Josh Taylor to US soil to exposed him because not everyone knows that he unify the belt in 140 lbs although he beat Ramirez in Las Vegas. But in his next fight which is against Jack Catterall it was in Glasglow.

So if Taylor wanted to established his name, he should be fighting in the US more often starting in this fight against Lopez.

I think it's not like that, Josh Taylor would've get the fight in UK if that's the deal in this bout but since this fight is going to happen in US soil, they might've got a good deal where they got Taylor's confirmation. As usual, Josh Taylor will be on the A-side because he is the WBO champion and will be a slight favorite among the bookies list. But comparing between the two of them, this will be a hard fight for Teo Lopez because Taylor is not an easy one. Even that 1 year inactivity probably won't have any setbacks on his side.

And most likely that's what the main reason for him to stage this fight in the US. Yeah, he can demand a UK fight, but US soil, there is more money in there, and probably his fans will likely travel to the US too to see him fight. So it's a win win for him, instead of a rematch with Jack which might not be enough money as it will be in the UK. But I agree that this is a hard fight for either boxers, Taylor is the man to beat in this division as he is the former unified champion as he just gave up the other belt because it's hard to defend them to their mandatories. And one mistake is that he chooses Jack as his mandatory and it almost cause him his belt.

Yes, that's it. A good deal was probably handed to him by Teo's camp and promoter that's why Josh said yes and will travel into the challenger's country. Can't really blame him for accepting this new challenge because he probably got more chances to win here compared if he will give Jack his rematch, that's too risky on his side as the score was just too tight and a setback will indeed cost him his belt.

As I observed, Josh Taylor is getting less and less lethal as he aged and his moves are starting to get predictable by his foes. That will likely be the big reason why he will lose his belt in the future. I'm not saying it's Teo but an upset here is not impossible.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Viscore on March 27, 2023, 06:06:52 PM
It's obvious Josh Taylor is the one who is the real upper hand in this fight and it would really be a major test for Lopez to get through this guy because this is the fighter you can't show some lazy defense because he will gonna finish you in the early rounds. My prediction here is TKO because we already know how strong Josh Taylor is in this weight division and this fight here is his message for his next opponents in the upper division it means he will go to each one of them and they gonna need to watch out. Hope that he will win easily on this one and will gonna move there fast.
Taylor is certainly the slight favorite here, and Lopez will remain the underdog. And I’m sure a lot would agree to this. Although both have almost the same boxing stat, but seeing how Taylor performs in the ring, I would say he totally got the edge over Lopez, and so Lopez should train hard in preparation for this match so he’ll be capable to beat Taylor even when most of us think that it’s quite impossible. But let’s watch and see then until we see it with our own two eyes as who will dominate inside the ring.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: serjent05 on March 27, 2023, 08:45:06 PM
It's obvious Josh Taylor is the one who is the real upper hand in this fight and it would really be a major test for Lopez to get through this guy because this is the fighter you can't show some lazy defense because he will gonna finish you in the early rounds. My prediction here is TKO because we already know how strong Josh Taylor is in this weight division and this fight here is his message for his next opponents in the upper division it means he will go to each one of them and they gonna need to watch out. Hope that he will win easily on this one and will gonna move there fast.
Taylor is certainly the slight favorite here, and Lopez will remain the underdog. And I’m sure a lot would agree to this. Although both have almost the same boxing stat, but seeing how Taylor performs in the ring, I would say he totally got the edge over Lopez, and so Lopez should train hard in preparation for this match so he’ll be capable to beat Taylor even when most of us think that it’s quite impossible. But let’s watch and see then until we see it with our own two eyes as who will dominate inside the ring.

It is normal to see Taylor being the favorite since he is the one that has an unblemished record between the two.  Aside from that, Taylor performance on his latest fight is I think better than Teofimo's.  In their last five fights, Taylor had gained and defended his title while Lopez lost his World Championship belt to Kambosos and not be able to get another one except the international lightweight title.  So it is reasonable to see Taylor as the favorite since Taylor had achieved more feat than Lopez in their last 5 fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on March 27, 2023, 11:20:29 PM
It's obvious Josh Taylor is the one who is the real upper hand in this fight and it would really be a major test for Lopez to get through this guy because this is the fighter you can't show some lazy defense because he will gonna finish you in the early rounds. My prediction here is TKO because we already know how strong Josh Taylor is in this weight division and this fight here is his message for his next opponents in the upper division it means he will go to each one of them and they gonna need to watch out. Hope that he will win easily on this one and will gonna move there fast.
Taylor is certainly the slight favorite here, and Lopez will remain the underdog. And I’m sure a lot would agree to this. Although both have almost the same boxing stat, but seeing how Taylor performs in the ring, I would say he totally got the edge over Lopez, and so Lopez should train hard in preparation for this match so he’ll be capable to beat Taylor even when most of us think that it’s quite impossible. But let’s watch and see then until we see it with our own two eyes as who will dominate inside the ring.

It is normal to see Taylor being the favorite since he is the one that has an unblemished record between the two.  Aside from that, Taylor performance on his latest fight is I think better than Teofimo's.  In their last five fights, Taylor had gained and defended his title while Lopez lost his World Championship belt to Kambosos and not be able to get another one except the international lightweight title.  So it is reasonable to see Taylor as the favorite since Taylor had achieved more feat than Lopez in their last 5 fight.

Right, Taylor is the former unified champion here, and in doing so, beat a lot of great champions in the 140 lbs, Prograis, Ramirez. He just have to vacate the 3 belts and keep only one when he defended it against his mandatory Jack Catterall. And so we can say that he is the king of this division. On other hand, Teo Lopez is coming up in this weight class, just 2 fights if I'm not mistaken and against weaker opponents. It's that he is under the banner of Top Rank and so is Josh Taylor, so this might is easy to make. And as what we see in his last fight, we are not totally convinced that he can bring his power to the welterweight and could be just a regular boxer. So it's going to be hard for him specially against the best welterweight. Probably this fight will go to distance and Taylor might break down Lopez here.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on March 28, 2023, 02:27:43 AM
This is definitely a great fight. I've been waiting for fights like this, and finally, we have one this year. Lopez could be the underdog here, so I'm going with the favorite, which I believe is Josh Taylor. Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with Lopez's performance against Kambosos. So until he gets a win in a big fight, I'm still going against him now.

JT for the win!


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Fundamentals Of on March 28, 2023, 02:52:09 AM
If Josh Taylor will be in his 100% condition, Teofimo will have no chance. Of course Teofimo is much younger than Taylor but it won't be the determining factor. Teofimo is not anymore the star that he used to be. He even could only secure an SD win against Sandor. So I think Josh will pretty much handle Teofimo despite the latter being the much younger fighter.

The odds provided by Betting Insider Journal has Taylor as the favorite at -148 and Teofimo Lopez the underdog at +116. Fair enough.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kelvinid on March 28, 2023, 03:56:27 AM
I'm picking Josh Taylor to win by KO/TKO. I believe that Teofimo just got lucky when he beat Lomachenko because he was exposed against Kambosos. So, I trust a consistent champion who has not experienced a defeat yet. This might be a difficult fight for Taylor, but I think he will end up winning by KO since we also know how aggressive Teofimo is. He'll taste his own medicine in the end.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Maslate on March 28, 2023, 11:57:12 AM
Teofimo Lopez has finally found a match that could probably give him a good challenge. For sure, there will be no more excuses for him as he is now in a division that he feels comfortable in, unlike his previous one that he had to leave after his defeat to Kambosos, who is not really a great champion as he was fully dominated by Haney in their two fights.

Taylor and Lopez are both aggressive fighters, so for those who are looking for real action, this is it. It should be a toe-to-toe fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: carlisle1 on March 28, 2023, 12:21:23 PM
I'm picking Josh Taylor to win by KO/TKO. I believe that Teofimo just got lucky when he beat Lomachenko because he was exposed against Kambosos. So, I trust a consistent champion who has not experienced a defeat yet. This might be a difficult fight for Taylor, but I think he will end up winning by KO since we also know how aggressive Teofimo is. He'll taste his own medicine in the end.

I believe that if both will go toe-to-toe, Taylor will have a good advantage, like what you said Lopez will taste the dose of his
own medicine when confronting Taylor.

Let see if how both fighters will prepare here and how they will bring something enjoyable for the fans that will support them during the fight.

It will be for the supporters to put their money to whatever they'll like and believe, entrusting their money to the chosen fighter.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Questat on March 28, 2023, 12:28:35 PM
I'm picking Josh Taylor to win by KO/TKO. I believe that Teofimo just got lucky when he beat Lomachenko because he was exposed against Kambosos. So, I trust a consistent champion who has not experienced a defeat yet. This might be a difficult fight for Taylor, but I think he will end up winning by KO since we also know how aggressive Teofimo is. He'll taste his own medicine in the end.

I believe that if both will go toe-to-toe, Taylor will have a good advantage, like what you said Lopez will taste the dose of his
own medicine when confronting Taylor.

Let see if how both fighters will prepare here and how they will bring something enjoyable for the fans that will support them during the fight.

It will be for the supporters to put their money to whatever they'll like and believe, entrusting their money to the chosen fighter.

The odds should be attractive on both sides, as although Taylor has some advantages, I'm sure there are still plenty of bettors who believe that the younger Teofimo Lopez might upset Josh Taylor. Based on the poll, the voting results as of now are also very close, which means the pulse of the posters here is divided.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 28, 2023, 01:28:28 PM
I'm picking Josh Taylor to win by KO/TKO. I believe that Teofimo just got lucky when he beat Lomachenko because he was exposed against Kambosos. So, I trust a consistent champion who has not experienced a defeat yet. This might be a difficult fight for Taylor, but I think he will end up winning by KO since we also know how aggressive Teofimo is. He'll taste his own medicine in the end.
I think it's really to big for Taylor to win by KO, I think either Taylor or Lopez the fight will end via decision, but it just hard to pick either Taylor or Lopez because both of them have show a bad performance on their recent fight. My assumption is luck will not always in Taylor since he never lose in this career, so Lopez should be a winner in this fight. I'm a Lopez's fan, so the answer is really subjective :P


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on March 28, 2023, 02:16:44 PM
This is definitely a great fight. I've been waiting for fights like this, and finally, we have one this year. Lopez could be the underdog here, so I'm going with the favorite, which I believe is Josh Taylor. Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with Lopez's performance against Kambosos. So until he gets a win in a big fight, I'm still going against him now.

JT for the win!

This might be the best fight on schedule after the postponement of Inoue-Fulton.

I am also rooting for Josh Taylor to win here. So it seems like Teofimo Lopez was just lucky against an injured Vasyl Lomachenko and received a gift in his fight against Sandor Martin. No disrespect to Sandor Martin who became known after upsetting and sending former 4 division champion Mikey Garcia into retirement. He was clearly robbed of his victory against Teofimo and still deserved a title fight against any of the current champions. I want to see Josh Taylor end the hype of Teofimo Lopez and then proceed to 147 since already became undisputed in this division. Unless Taylor is still willing to give rematches to his previous close fights to Catterall, Ramirez, and Prograis.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on March 30, 2023, 06:41:57 PM
This is definitely a great fight. I've been waiting for fights like this, and finally, we have one this year. Lopez could be the underdog here, so I'm going with the favorite, which I believe is Josh Taylor. Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with Lopez's performance against Kambosos. So until he gets a win in a big fight, I'm still going against him now.

JT for the win!

This might be the best fight on schedule after the postponement of Inoue-Fulton.

I am also rooting for Josh Taylor to win here. So it seems like Teofimo Lopez was just lucky against an injured Vasyl Lomachenko and received a gift in his fight against Sandor Martin. No disrespect to Sandor Martin who became known after upsetting and sending former 4 division champion Mikey Garcia into retirement. He was clearly robbed of his victory against Teofimo and still deserved a title fight against any of the current champions. I want to see Josh Taylor end the hype of Teofimo Lopez and then proceed to 147 since already became undisputed in this division. Unless Taylor is still willing to give rematches to his previous close fights to Catterall, Ramirez, and Prograis.

Indeed, he was just lucky that time because Lomachenko was already having a hard time on his shoulder injury and instead of calling the fight to postpone, he chose to participate in the fight where he wasn't 100% in condition. If only Loma and his camp secured a rematch clause, Loma could've bring back those belts that Teo won from him.
Up until now, Teo was getting lucky after he made the climb at 140 pounds but this will be the end, he may be hyped but not enough to take down Josh Taylor.

About Taylor's climb, I think that's not good for him because 147 is quite stacked for now because there's this man who is keeping the 3-belts in safe keeping without having some fights after he defeated Ugas. Which makes the other boxer unable to move because they are left to fight the boxers under them, which is really disappointing.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on March 30, 2023, 07:06:12 PM
This is definitely a great fight. I've been waiting for fights like this, and finally, we have one this year. Lopez could be the underdog here, so I'm going with the favorite, which I believe is Josh Taylor. Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with Lopez's performance against Kambosos. So until he gets a win in a big fight, I'm still going against him now.

JT for the win!

This might be the best fight on schedule after the postponement of Inoue-Fulton.

I am also rooting for Josh Taylor to win here. So it seems like Teofimo Lopez was just lucky against an injured Vasyl Lomachenko and received a gift in his fight against Sandor Martin. No disrespect to Sandor Martin who became known after upsetting and sending former 4 division champion Mikey Garcia into retirement. He was clearly robbed of his victory against Teofimo and still deserved a title fight against any of the current champions. I want to see Josh Taylor end the hype of Teofimo Lopez and then proceed to 147 since already became undisputed in this division. Unless Taylor is still willing to give rematches to his previous close fights to Catterall, Ramirez, and Prograis.

Yes, and Taylor said he will go back to his old style, and maybe that's his explanation of why the fight with Catterall is close and others see that Jack won that fight. He used a new style that is not suited for him.

And against Lopez, if he can go back on the style that won him all the belts in this division, Lopez might find that this is division is going to be difficult for him, with the likes of Ramirez and Prograis still out there. So most likely in his 3rd fight here, that hype train of Lopez will end again, just like what George Kambosos did to him.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: serjent05 on March 30, 2023, 07:32:25 PM
I'm picking Josh Taylor to win by KO/TKO. I believe that Teofimo just got lucky when he beat Lomachenko because he was exposed against Kambosos. So, I trust a consistent champion who has not experienced a defeat yet. This might be a difficult fight for Taylor, but I think he will end up winning by KO since we also know how aggressive Teofimo is. He'll taste his own medicine in the end.

I believe that if both will go toe-to-toe, Taylor will have a good advantage, like what you said Lopez will taste the dose of his
own medicine when confronting Taylor.

Let see if how both fighters will prepare here and how they will bring something enjoyable for the fans that will support them during the fight.

It will be for the supporters to put their money to whatever they'll like and believe, entrusting their money to the chosen fighter.

The odds should be attractive on both sides, as although Taylor has some advantages, I'm sure there are still plenty of bettors who believe that the younger Teofimo Lopez might upset Josh Taylor. Based on the poll, the voting results as of now are also very close, which means the pulse of the posters here is divided.

I think the odds won't have that huge gap between these two boxers.  They are both capable and experienced.  The records is almost identical except for one lost of Teofimo Lopez which I think will cost him to be the underdog although their past 3 fight performance is remarkably good.

This is definitely a great fight. I've been waiting for fights like this, and finally, we have one this year. Lopez could be the underdog here, so I'm going with the favorite, which I believe is Josh Taylor. Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with Lopez's performance against Kambosos. So until he gets a win in a big fight, I'm still going against him now.

JT for the win!

This might be the best fight on schedule after the postponement of Inoue-Fulton.

I think so too, it is quite disappointing that Inoue have to cancel the fight due to the injury.  I was looking forward to their fight because I wanted to see whether Inoue can still have the same devastating power after going up in the weight division.

I am also rooting for Josh Taylor to win here. So it seems like Teofimo Lopez was just lucky against an injured Vasyl Lomachenko and received a gift in his fight against Sandor Martin. No disrespect to Sandor Martin who became known after upsetting and sending former 4 division champion Mikey Garcia into retirement. He was clearly robbed of his victory against Teofimo and still deserved a title fight against any of the current champions. I want to see Josh Taylor end the hype of Teofimo Lopez and then proceed to 147 since already became undisputed in this division. Unless Taylor is still willing to give rematches to his previous close fights to Catterall, Ramirez, and Prograis.

I can say Josh Taylor had the advantage at the first glance but I believe the result of the fight can go either way.  It all depends on who can prepare much better and perfrom well during the fight or who can get a lucky chance to land a solid blow that can KO his opponent.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 30, 2023, 07:38:02 PM
I'm also not a Lopez fan, but I did enjoy his fight but him and his father have big mouths. As compare to the Benavidez beef with Caleb Plant, after the fight they seed that they are going to bury that and there are respect between the two after the fight. Not with the Lopez though against Loma, no rematch whatsoever, and then they can't accept their defeat with Kambosos and they still think that they have won that fight. So if he loss against Taylor, not sure what kind of excuses they are going to tell us again.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on March 31, 2023, 08:47:15 PM
I'm also not a Lopez fan, but I did enjoy his fight but him and his father have big mouths. As compare to the Benavidez beef with Caleb Plant, after the fight they seed that they are going to bury that and there are respect between the two after the fight. Not with the Lopez though against Loma, no rematch whatsoever, and then they can't accept their defeat with Kambosos and they still think that they have won that fight. So if he loss against Taylor, not sure what kind of excuses they are going to tell us again.

Expect that they will at least make a hype while calling for a rematch if in-case Teofimo Lopez will get defeated by Josh Taylor, I mean, I really don't think that he can actually defeat the latter who have been in the industry for such a long time now and already carved his name as he already managed to achieve the feat of being the undisputed champion. Teo Lopez will just another embarrassment on his career after this fight.

In-fact Teo wasn't even in the radar of Josh Taylor but since he luckily defeated Sandor Martin and became the WBO International Super Light, the latter got not much of an option but to settle with Teo in the meantime just to make himself active.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on April 05, 2023, 09:04:30 AM
Meanwhile, Josh Taylor's rival Jack Catterall just signed with Matchroom Boxing. He is looking forward to shaking the dust off being also inactive for a year after delayed negotiations and cancellations to the supposed rematch with Josh Taylor. He also believed Teofimo Lopez will win over Josh. Although his prediction might be biased, he might be annoyed with Josh knowing most of the public thought he won the belts and then comes his inactivity after hoping for the rematch to happen.

Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 05, 2023, 12:27:49 PM
Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.

That's not unusual, especially for undefeated boxers. He has the right to say whatever he wants, given his decent record, and as long as he remains undefeated, he can claim whatever he needs to elevate himself further. I hope his statement will motivate Lopez to train harder, so that we as fans can fully enjoy this big fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 05, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
I would not say that Josh Taylor will definitely be the top contender for me in this match because Teofimo Lopez seems to have the upper hand in physical health. The extent of Josh Taylor's plantar fascia injury to the arch of his foot is being kept "undisclosed". The severity of the tear makes me doubt he will be able to keep on his feet as in the past. Especially because they refuse to talk about how bad the injury really was. Pain management alone will not be sufficient to keep up with Lopez's footwork. So far I see a red flag in betting on Taylor, which I would do if he was in top-fit-condition...



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yatsan on April 06, 2023, 11:59:05 PM
I would not say that Josh Taylor will definitely be the top contender for me in this match because Teofimo Lopez seems to have the upper hand in physical health. The extent of Josh Taylor's plantar fascia injury to the arch of his foot is being kept "undisclosed". The severity of the tear makes me doubt he will be able to keep on his feet as in the past. Especially because they refuse to talk about how bad the injury really was. Pain management alone will not be sufficient to keep up with Lopez's footwork. So far I see a red flag in betting on Taylor, which I would do if he was in top-fit-condition...


For sure the management wouldn't allow their boxer to suffer from disadvantage and to just lose like that, especially with an undefeated record. They'd more likely make sure things are okay because  this would be a big fight and is not something between two no-namer fighters. Lopez on the other hand even threw a claim that he would be knocking down Taylor, which clearly shows that he's confident with this fight. But in this fight I think Lopez has a bigger heart to come up a winner because he's the underdog, to climb the ranks and to open up a bigger opportunity if ever he would win this thing. Taylor is more likely not letting his rank slide especially because of a disadvantage, that easy. Would be interesting given how fast their careers have grown for a short period of time, in comparison with other fighters, simply showing how talented these boxers are. But still, I'd go with Lopez whom I think has a bigger drive.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 07, 2023, 02:06:09 AM
I would not say that Josh Taylor will definitely be the top contender for me in this match because Teofimo Lopez seems to have the upper hand in physical health. The extent of Josh Taylor's plantar fascia injury to the arch of his foot is being kept "undisclosed". The severity of the tear makes me doubt he will be able to keep on his feet as in the past. Especially because they refuse to talk about how bad the injury really was. Pain management alone will not be sufficient to keep up with Lopez's footwork. So far I see a red flag in betting on Taylor, which I would do if he was in top-fit-condition...


For sure the management wouldn't allow their boxer to suffer from disadvantage and to just lose like that, especially with an undefeated record. They'd more likely make sure things are okay because  this would be a big fight and is not something between two no-namer fighters. Lopez on the other hand even threw a claim that he would be knocking down Taylor, which clearly shows that he's confident with this fight. But in this fight I think Lopez has a bigger heart to come up a winner because he's the underdog, to climb the ranks and to open up a bigger opportunity if ever he would win this thing. Taylor is more likely not letting his rank slide especially because of a disadvantage, that easy. Would be interesting given how fast their careers have grown for a short period of time, in comparison with other fighters, simply showing how talented these boxers are. But still, I'd go with Lopez whom I think has a bigger drive.

Those are just rumors, though. He is fighting, and he has to make sure he is 100% ready to go toe to toe in the ring. If he has an undisclosed injury, that's not right because it's like he's robbing the fans, especially the bettors, who think that he is going to give his 100% to defeat Teofimo Lopez.

However, thanks to @goldkingcoiner for bringing that info. Although it's just a rumor, at least we know something about him that we can consider when making a decision on whom to bet.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: TravelMug on April 07, 2023, 02:16:56 AM
I would not say that Josh Taylor will definitely be the top contender for me in this match because Teofimo Lopez seems to have the upper hand in physical health. The extent of Josh Taylor's plantar fascia injury to the arch of his foot is being kept "undisclosed". The severity of the tear makes me doubt he will be able to keep on his feet as in the past. Especially because they refuse to talk about how bad the injury really was. Pain management alone will not be sufficient to keep up with Lopez's footwork. So far I see a red flag in betting on Taylor, which I would do if he was in top-fit-condition...

But will Josh Taylor or at least his camp will allow him to fight even if they know that his injury is severe? I doubt that, so this fight is going to happen because Josh Taylor is 100% healed already. I'm not sure why it is undisclosed when we all know that he had foot injury already and they have sign the contract and go and lay his belt against Lopez in this fight. And I guess Taylor will still be the favorite here, he is the champion and once the king of this division because he held all the belt at one time. For sure there are things that they don't want to go to the public, but I guess the doctors are not going to give Taylor a clean bill of health and fight if he is not healthy.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 07, 2023, 04:22:19 AM
Meanwhile, Josh Taylor's rival Jack Catterall just signed with Matchroom Boxing. He is looking forward to shaking the dust off being also inactive for a year after delayed negotiations and cancellations to the supposed rematch with Josh Taylor. He also believed Teofimo Lopez will win over Josh. Although his prediction might be biased, he might be annoyed with Josh knowing most of the public thought he won the belts and then comes his inactivity after hoping for the rematch to happen.
Good, I think at this point, whether US or London based fighters, Matchroom has done so much with it's fighter and we have to commend Eddie Hearn. Not sure if I heard it that he will be fighting Prograis next and the schedule is May 27? or his opponent is not name yet?

Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.
Most likely his confident is based on the fact that he has face tougher opponents in the 140 lbs, like Ramirez, Prograis and even Catterall himself. And Teo has no business in 140 lbs. And base on Teo's fight, I don't think he has carry his power to this new division, just saying.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: rodskee on April 07, 2023, 04:45:10 AM
this is one good match , and I also like to see Taylor taking over Lopez though the Odd is close according to my research and following taylor recently.
Taylor's injury happened long time and I believe that he is completely healed and ready to fight but of course this is the only advantage Lopez has against this great boxer.
so Taylor for me but the vote is close and seems to be good to watch and bet for  excitement .


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on April 07, 2023, 06:06:07 AM
Meanwhile, Josh Taylor's rival Jack Catterall just signed with Matchroom Boxing. He is looking forward to shaking the dust off being also inactive for a year after delayed negotiations and cancellations to the supposed rematch with Josh Taylor. He also believed Teofimo Lopez will win over Josh. Although his prediction might be biased, he might be annoyed with Josh knowing most of the public thought he won the belts and then comes his inactivity after hoping for the rematch to happen.
Good, I think at this point, whether US or London based fighters, Matchroom has done so much with it's fighter and we have to commend Eddie Hearn. Not sure if I heard it that he will be fighting Prograis next and the schedule is May 27? or his opponent is not name yet?
I agree. Matchroom is probably the biggest promoter right now and it is partnered with DAZN which probably remained to have the biggest budget in boxing. Catterall's next opponent is still unnamed and the fight happens next month. So I believe it is a stay-busy fight after his long layoff.

And about the WBC champion Regis Prograis. I heard its promoter Probellum ceased operations. So it seems like Bob Arum of Top Rank was serious about Probellum's links to the Irish syndicate family, the Kinahans. Richard Schaefer, the boss of Probellum has now assumed as the new president of Anthem Sports Group. Schaefer said that it will continue to promote Nonito Donaire and Eimantas Stanionis. Not mentioning Regis' name means the champ is probably a free agent by now. Hopefully, Regis goes to Top Rank if he wants to mix it up with the big names Taylor, Lopez, Ramirez, and maybe Haney if the plan to move up materializes.

Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.
Most likely his confident is based on the fact that he has face tougher opponents in the 140 lbs, like Ramirez, Prograis and even Catterall himself. And Teo has no business in 140 lbs. And base on Teo's fight, I don't think he has carry his power to this new division, just saying.
Yeah, prime for prime at 140, Teofimo Lopez is not even near the level of Josh Taylor. But the inactivity of Taylor and difficulty making the weight which probably leads to his poor performance against Catterall might have made this fight 60-40 or even 55-45.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Gozie51 on April 07, 2023, 07:19:17 AM

Those are just rumors, though. He is fighting, and he has to make sure he is 100% ready to go toe to toe in the ring. If he has an undisclosed injury, that's not right because it's like he's robbing the fans, especially the bettors, who think that he is going to give his 100% to defeat Teofimo Lopez.


His injury status is already a public knowledge so his is not concealing it from the fans including the bettors. According to the interview with  skyspots.com  (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12183/12792233/josh-taylor)

https://i.imgur.com/ZvbcGVu.png

So he has come public to say he is not ready to rush into a fight until he is confirmed good.



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Dave1 on April 07, 2023, 07:45:52 AM
^^ But fight is already confirmed, and since both of them are with Top Rank, same stable, then it's easy to made the fight. And most likely this what influence Josh to cancel his fight with Catterall or at least their rematch. It's not that he doesn't want to fight him, but Top Rank see it as a huge risk if they lost and so is the belt.

And in this case, if Teo upset Josh, the belt is still with Bob Arum, so anyone chasing Lopez and the belt, he has the leverage. That's how good and cunning Bob Arum is, all in house money for him in this fight and assurance that they will have everything whoever win in this fight. And who knows, there could be rematch too.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on April 07, 2023, 11:10:50 AM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 07, 2023, 11:15:21 AM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: aioc on April 07, 2023, 11:52:30 AM


But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Teofimo is a colorful fighter so he will continue to thrash-talk Taylor it's his way ever since, he is so confident I hope not too confident because he is facing a well-skilled fighter the crowd will just boost Teofimo's morale because we all know thrash talkers thrive on this if they are being cheered they will continue to thrash talks and in the actual fight they can be reckless because fighters like him, like to entertain the crowd, that could sometimes backfire like what happen in the Kambosos fight, I just hope he learned his lesson from the Kambosos fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jating on April 07, 2023, 11:55:59 AM


But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Teofimo is a colorful fighter so he will continue to thrash-talk Taylor it's his way ever since, he is so confident I hope not too confident because he is facing a well-skilled fighter the crowd will just boost Teofimo's morale because we all know thrash talkers thrive on this if they are being cheered they will continue to thrash talks and in the actual fight they can be reckless because fighters like him, like to entertain the crowd, that could sometimes backfire like what happen in the Kambosos fight, I just hope he learned his lesson from the Kambosos fight.

He will have to performed at his best, just like when he upset Lomachenko back then. However, in his last fight against Sandor Martin, it was just a split decision win for him and he could have lost the fight.

So he can talk smuck as much as he want, but definitely Josh Taylor is not going to back down to the challenge because he is the champion. And better be Lopez back his trash talking, this is 140 lbs division, one of the top premier weight class. So it takes more than to trash talk your opponents here.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: freedomgo on April 07, 2023, 08:03:33 PM
Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.

That's not unusual, especially for undefeated boxers. He has the right to say whatever he wants, given his decent record, and as long as he remains undefeated, he can claim whatever he needs to elevate himself further. I hope his statement will motivate Lopez to train harder, so that we as fans can fully enjoy this big fight.

Correct, that is surely his rights because he managed to carve himself a name in the industry and reach the position he have now without any scathes on his records. To be honest, I can't help but agree with JT's statement towards Teo because he is indeed talented enough to back-up his words while the latter isn't that much of a threat and what he did was to defeat boxers who was injured, just like what he did when he was still at 135 and managed to have himself 3 belts, and that's why he got defeated when he faced an aggressive and healthy boxer, Kambosos Jr.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: virasisog on April 07, 2023, 09:10:09 PM
Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.

That's not unusual, especially for undefeated boxers. He has the right to say whatever he wants, given his decent record, and as long as he remains undefeated, he can claim whatever he needs to elevate himself further. I hope his statement will motivate Lopez to train harder, so that we as fans can fully enjoy this big fight.

Correct, that is surely his rights because he managed to carve himself a name in the industry and reach the position he have now without any scathes on his records. To be honest, I can't help but agree with JT's statement towards Teo because he is indeed talented enough to back-up his words while the latter isn't that much of a threat and what he did was to defeat boxers who was injured, just like what he did when he was still at 135 and managed to have himself 3 belts, and that's why he got defeated when he faced an aggressive and healthy boxer, Kambosos Jr.

I can actually feel that Josh Taylor is more eager and really yearning to win. It seems like he isn't just confident to win this match but also well-prepared to prove himself in the ring more. Despite having poor performances previously, I guess he's willing to make a better record in this upcoming fight. I hope he wouldn't miss an opportunity to do better and to establish a promising record this time.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on April 08, 2023, 10:38:44 PM
Josh Taylor on the other hand seemed to be too confident despite his inactivity and poor performance in his last fight against Catterall. I can feel that he is belittling Teofimo Lopez's ability to win as he is predicting the big possibility of him taking out Teofimo in the early rounds.

That's not unusual, especially for undefeated boxers. He has the right to say whatever he wants, given his decent record, and as long as he remains undefeated, he can claim whatever he needs to elevate himself further. I hope his statement will motivate Lopez to train harder, so that we as fans can fully enjoy this big fight.

Correct, that is surely his rights because he managed to carve himself a name in the industry and reach the position he have now without any scathes on his records. To be honest, I can't help but agree with JT's statement towards Teo because he is indeed talented enough to back-up his words while the latter isn't that much of a threat and what he did was to defeat boxers who was injured, just like what he did when he was still at 135 and managed to have himself 3 belts, and that's why he got defeated when he faced an aggressive and healthy boxer, Kambosos Jr.

I can actually feel that Josh Taylor is more eager and really yearning to win. It seems like he isn't just confident to win this match but also well-prepared to prove himself in the ring more. Despite having poor performances previously, I guess he's willing to make a better record in this upcoming fight. I hope he wouldn't miss an opportunity to do better and to establish a promising record this time.

Yes, that's the word. More eager and hungrier compared to Teofimo Lopez and honestly, I'm really not convinced that Teo can somehow make a way to upset the former undisputed champion because his skills and talent is surely not enough in-front of Josh Taylor. Moreover, I believe Josh is on a campaign again to have the belts back that was once under his possession and Teo cannot do anything to prevent that from happening.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on April 08, 2023, 11:10:31 PM
It's interesting to note though that Regis Prograis, the WBC champion in the 140 lbs is already a free agent. He used to be under Probellum, but we all know that the boxing outfit or at least most of it's boxers have bee taken by Disrupt Promotions, except maybe for Donaire and Eimantas Stanionis who remain who remain with Richard Schaefer.

And with that, we might see a possible scenario that Prograis might fight the winner of this fight, or at least will go for any unification in this division as Taylor only held one belt (WBO) and it will be on the line against Lopez.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Maslate on April 10, 2023, 03:29:25 AM
It's interesting to note though that Regis Prograis, the WBC champion in the 140 lbs is already a free agent. He used to be under Probellum, but we all know that the boxing outfit or at least most of it's boxers have bee taken by Disrupt Promotions, except maybe for Donaire and Eimantas Stanionis who remain who remain with Richard Schaefer.

And with that, we might see a possible scenario that Prograis might fight the winner of this fight, or at least will go for any unification in this division as Taylor only held one belt (WBO) and it will be on the line against Lopez.

I just saw Teo and JT's slight trashtalk in an interview and it's evident enough for me to see that Josh Taylor doesn't have any fears in his upcoming fight against Teo, he was just too confident that Teo can't do a difference in that fight which is understandable because he is still undefeated and a former undispted champion.

While Teo was just speaking nonsense and talking that he will defeat Josh with a statement because he is the greatest in the industry now and it's already predicted as that's what the greatest will do. Quite funny I would say because I can see that he was just bluffing because he already probably know the difference of their power and he's just trying to mess with Josh in the head. But JT didn't took the bait, as expected.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jating on April 10, 2023, 06:26:31 AM
It's interesting to note though that Regis Prograis, the WBC champion in the 140 lbs is already a free agent. He used to be under Probellum, but we all know that the boxing outfit or at least most of it's boxers have bee taken by Disrupt Promotions, except maybe for Donaire and Eimantas Stanionis who remain who remain with Richard Schaefer.

And with that, we might see a possible scenario that Prograis might fight the winner of this fight, or at least will go for any unification in this division as Taylor only held one belt (WBO) and it will be on the line against Lopez.

I just saw Teo and JT's slight trashtalk in an interview and it's evident enough for me to see that Josh Taylor doesn't have any fears in his upcoming fight against Teo, he was just too confident that Teo can't do a difference in that fight which is understandable because he is still undefeated and a former undispted champion.

While Teo was just speaking nonsense and talking that he will defeat Josh with a statement because he is the greatest in the industry now and it's already predicted as that's what the greatest will do. Quite funny I would say because I can see that he was just bluffing because he already probably know the difference of their power and he's just trying to mess with Josh in the head. But JT didn't took the bait, as expected.

Haven't seen that but obviously, we all know how Teofimo's mouth is, it was very evident when he defeated Loma and he multiply his trash talking when he fought Kambosos, most likely it's because of his confidence win against Loma that time and he thinks he is the best boxer and a crowd drawer. But Kambosos put him in the right place when he defeated that big mouth of Teofimo and his father.

But since he is on 2 winning streak, albeit against low key fighters and he didn't fare good in his last fight, still though he chooses where he is good at, trash talking his opponent. But JT is not going to back down because he has the tools and has been a undisputed in this division wherein Lopez is just trying to make his name.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on April 10, 2023, 07:15:59 AM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: freedomgo on April 10, 2023, 01:22:35 PM
It's interesting to note though that Regis Prograis, the WBC champion in the 140 lbs is already a free agent. He used to be under Probellum, but we all know that the boxing outfit or at least most of it's boxers have bee taken by Disrupt Promotions, except maybe for Donaire and Eimantas Stanionis who remain who remain with Richard Schaefer.

And with that, we might see a possible scenario that Prograis might fight the winner of this fight, or at least will go for any unification in this division as Taylor only held one belt (WBO) and it will be on the line against Lopez.

I just saw Teo and JT's slight trashtalk in an interview and it's evident enough for me to see that Josh Taylor doesn't have any fears in his upcoming fight against Teo, he was just too confident that Teo can't do a difference in that fight which is understandable because he is still undefeated and a former undispted champion.

While Teo was just speaking nonsense and talking that he will defeat Josh with a statement because he is the greatest in the industry now and it's already predicted as that's what the greatest will do. Quite funny I would say because I can see that he was just bluffing because he already probably know the difference of their power and he's just trying to mess with Josh in the head. But JT didn't took the bait, as expected.

Haven't seen that but obviously, we all know how Teofimo's mouth is, it was very evident when he defeated Loma and he multiply his trash talking when he fought Kambosos, most likely it's because of his confidence win against Loma that time and he thinks he is the best boxer and a crowd drawer. But Kambosos put him in the right place when he defeated that big mouth of Teofimo and his father.

But since he is on 2 winning streak, albeit against low key fighters and he didn't fare good in his last fight, still though he chooses where he is good at, trash talking his opponent. But JT is not going to back down because he has the tools and has been a undisputed in this division wherein Lopez is just trying to make his name.

I think @Maslate was referring on this short interview: Josh Taylor & Teofimo Lopez Talk All the Trash In Tremendous Face to Face Interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6qbCPjA9M0)

Anyway, I agree, Teofimo was just bluffing and tried to talk calmly to maintain his poise on that interview but we can certainly see how he reacts against Josh Taylor's comments to every questions. Teo was just lucky when he upsets the prime Loma because the latter got a problem before their fight, which is a shoulder injury that really took a toll in Loma's performance.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on April 12, 2023, 01:06:07 PM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on April 12, 2023, 03:44:55 PM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.

If I'm not mistaken, they are somewhat both local heroes, so they have to settle the score inside the ring. And probably that's fuel Jack Catterall or maybe he was that good to almost beat Josh Taylor during that fight. And then they avoid him by all cost in the rematch and go with Teo Lopez as this fight might be easy for Josh, style wise.

And speaking of Jack, his next fight will be against Darragh Foley at Manchester.

https://box.live/boxers/jack-catterall/

Most likely just a get busy fight for him.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Maslate on April 13, 2023, 04:07:43 PM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.

That fight was supposed to be a walk in the park for the former undisputed champion but it was the opposite thing because it was a near defeat on his case as he probably underestimated Jack Catterall on that specific fight. And yes, that was probably a cherry picked fight because it's a homecoming fight but we had a different fight as Josh Taylor was struggling and I suppose he was surprised by it too.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on April 13, 2023, 07:52:58 PM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.

That fight was supposed to be a walk in the park for the former undisputed champion but it was the opposite thing because it was a near defeat on his case as he probably underestimated Jack Catterall on that specific fight. And yes, that was probably a cherry picked fight because it's a homecoming fight but we had a different fight as Josh Taylor was struggling and I suppose he was surprised by it too.

Talking about that, will that same scenario happen again but this time against Teofimo Lopez? Because if Josh was already struggling at that fight against Catterral then maybe Teo got some decent chances to upset the champion and this may be his best fight where he will be the champion against an opponent that doesn't have any prior injuries.

Just had a wild thought though hehe, either way, I can't just disregard the fact that Josh used to dominate this division and Teo is just a mere challenger on his throne.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: serjent05 on April 13, 2023, 10:04:47 PM

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.

Don't underestimate the power of the training camp.  Although Josh Taylor sees Jack Caterall as a weak opponent, the reason he cherry-picked the guy, the intel and information of the training camp is helpful in molding the boxer and training him to counter the strategy of the opponent.  It is also possible that Josh Taylor underestimate his opponent making him to not do extra effort in training.  While on the contrary Jack Caterall trained hard and his camp gives better training and counters against Josh Taylor.  This might be the reason why Josh Taylor had difficulty beating Jack Caterall.

Just had a wild thought though hehe, either way, I can't just disregard the fact that Josh used to dominate this division and Teo is just a mere challenger on his throne.

This will be an interesting and tough fight for both fighters.  I am also seeing Josh having the advantage here as most of the odds online stated.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: roslinpl on April 14, 2023, 08:22:10 PM
Training camp is the essential one for the player to train well to face the competition in the ring with more potential. Caterall is weak player compared to the Taylor for sure, But his training make the huge difference in the game. Taylor should not underestimate the opponent in any circumference. Because the weak player can K.O the powerful player at the right time by making some good practices and using their own strategies for the every opponent. When the player uses different strategies for different players, the opponent can’t find the strategy which he going to use for him. Lopez who had a capacity to win the Taylor by the practices in the training camp all the time. So this game will make huge difference in the carriers of Lopez. Lopez long waiting for this opportunity.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jating on April 14, 2023, 08:49:01 PM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.

That fight was supposed to be a walk in the park for the former undisputed champion but it was the opposite thing because it was a near defeat on his case as he probably underestimated Jack Catterall on that specific fight. And yes, that was probably a cherry picked fight because it's a homecoming fight but we had a different fight as Josh Taylor was struggling and I suppose he was surprised by it too.

Talking about that, will that same scenario happen again but this time against Teofimo Lopez? Because if Josh was already struggling at that fight against Catterral then maybe Teo got some decent chances to upset the champion and this may be his best fight where he will be the champion against an opponent that doesn't have any prior injuries.

Just had a wild thought though hehe, either way, I can't just disregard the fact that Josh used to dominate this division and Teo is just a mere challenger on his throne.

There could be factors that might affect Josh Taylor's performance against Jack, maybe the style of Catterall is not suited for him, or there is pressure on his shoulder to be great and make a statement win in front of his home crowd, or he didn't train that hard or underestimate his rival or even the weight is an issue on him.

Josh is the king of this division, he had all the belts and beat the champion and tough boxer. It's that Jack Catterall that night is really hard for Josh to crack but he still did his best and rise to the occasion and score although a controversial win. However, they should have learn from that fight and not let Teo Lopez open his mouth and win the mental battle.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 14, 2023, 09:20:12 PM
There could be factors that might affect Josh Taylor's performance against Jack, maybe the style of Catterall is not suited for him, or there is pressure on his shoulder to be great and make a statement win in front of his home crowd, or he didn't train that hard or underestimate his rival or even the weight is an issue on him.

True, I am one of those people who believe that every strategy has its counter, and so it is the most reasonable explanation why Josh Taylor had a hard time beating Jack Catterall, But even though Josh style and strategy is countered, it shows how experience and skilled boxer Josh Taylor is.  He is able to adjust and finally defeated Jack Catterall.  Most boxer would have been defeated if their fighting style was countered, only those who has high IQ and great skill can end this kind of fight in a win.

Josh is the king of this division, he had all the belts and beat the champion and tough boxer. It's that Jack Catterall that night is really hard for Josh to crack but he still did his best and rise to the occasion and score although a controversial win. However, they should have learn from that fight and not let Teo Lopez open his mouth and win the mental battle.
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Obviously, Josh had the belt and had defended it several times. I think Josh Taylor had learned from the experience and we might see more conditioned and battle ready Josh Taylor this time.  I also think Josh Taylor will be perfectly prepared since his opponent I Teofimo Lopez and he knows that this guy is not to be underestimated.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: TravelMug on April 15, 2023, 12:40:06 AM
There could be factors that might affect Josh Taylor's performance against Jack, maybe the style of Catterall is not suited for him, or there is pressure on his shoulder to be great and make a statement win in front of his home crowd, or he didn't train that hard or underestimate his rival or even the weight is an issue on him.

True, I am one of those people who believe that every strategy has its counter, and so it is the most reasonable explanation why Josh Taylor had a hard time beating Jack Catterall, But even though Josh style and strategy is countered, it shows how experience and skilled boxer Josh Taylor is.  He is able to adjust and finally defeated Jack Catterall.  Most boxer would have been defeated if their fighting style was countered, only those who has high IQ and great skill can end this kind of fight in a win.

Josh is the king of this division, he had all the belts and beat the champion and tough boxer. It's that Jack Catterall that night is really hard for Josh to crack but he still did his best and rise to the occasion and score although a controversial win. However, they should have learn from that fight and not let Teo Lopez open his mouth and win the mental battle.
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Obviously, Josh had the belt and had defended it several times. I think Josh Taylor had learned from the experience and we might see more conditioned and battle ready Josh Taylor this time.  I also think Josh Taylor will be perfectly prepared since his opponent I Teofimo Lopez and he knows that this guy is not to be underestimated.

I agree, maybe the styles of Jack Catterall is very difficult for Josh Taylor to overcome, but with his experience, he has to dig on his bag of tricks to win the fight and it was very close as we can see in the way the judges score the fight and the way fans see it.

And this time though, if their style as conflicting again, Josh will have to rise to the occasion. I don't think that Teo can adjust in the fight if he is behind the card or at least if he thinks he is looking. Just look at the Kambosos fight, he fall in love with his one punch knock out. Although he knock down Kambosos, it was too late as George has pile up points and he knock down Teo as well.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Darker45 on April 15, 2023, 01:07:23 AM
I agree, maybe the styles of Jack Catterall is very difficult for Josh Taylor to overcome, but with his experience, he has to dig on his bag of tricks to win the fight and it was very close as we can see in the way the judges score the fight and the way fans see it.

And this time though, if their style as conflicting again, Josh will have to rise to the occasion. I don't think that Teo can adjust in the fight if he is behind the card or at least if he thinks he is looking. Just look at the Kambosos fight, he fall in love with his one punch knock out. Although he knock down Kambosos, it was too late as George has pile up points and he knock down Teo as well.

Teofimo is full of himself. It's probably the reason why he finds it hard to adjust in the middle of the fight. He's not a flexible fighter. Although he remains to be a dangerous fighter notwithstanding his split decision 10-rounder win against Sandor, it's just right that he is the underdog in this fight. Josh Taylor is probably the man in this match. Cracks are seen in the confidence of the sentimental Teofimo. He's even questioning himself now if he "still got it."


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 15, 2023, 02:39:51 PM
Training camp is the essential one for the player to train well to face the competition in the ring with more potential. Caterall is weak player compared to the Taylor for sure, But his training make the huge difference in the game. Taylor should not underestimate the opponent in any circumference. Because the weak player can K.O the powerful player at the right time by making some good practices and using their own strategies for the every opponent. When the player uses different strategies for different players, the opponent can’t find the strategy which he going to use for him. Lopez who had a capacity to win the Taylor by the practices in the training camp all the time. So this game will make huge difference in the carriers of Lopez.
Do you think Josh Taylor will not have any prepare and train himself before this fight happen? :D

Any athletes will always train himself very hard and being consistent, it's really a big mistake if he's confident enough to win without need any training. Jack Catterall is a good boxer, his fight against Taylor was close and some people think Catterall should win, not Taylor.

It's true a weak boxer can K.O. his opponent, but it's happen if the boxer has a weak chin and he has a slow movement.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on April 15, 2023, 10:20:24 PM
I think this is a bigger fight that Jack Catterall though, and maybe it's the right move for him. This fight is in the US, and hopefully Taylor should be exposed there, he is the undisputed 140 lbs and some of us forget that because he chooses to fight in the UK after unification with Ramirez. If he could just chosen a US boxer, it could be a different outcome and maybe he doesn't have to vacate some of his belts and retain them and then defend it to their mandatory. So this is a comeback fight, on the other hand Teo will have a lot of his plate at this new division.

The fight with Jack Catterall is on his hometown of Scotland, I think he just wanted to show his fans after winning all the belts. But Jack is a very difficult opponent for him, maybe as mentioned, he has a hard time making the weight at 140 lbs and it could be one factor in the fight. However, Jack really delivers one of his best performance to almost upset Josh in his hometown. It's almost back fire on him though.

But here it will be in Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken so Teo has the advantage because he has a lot of fans here.

So we will see the big mouth Teo here if he can back up his trash talking as he said that he will tear up Taylor more than what Jack did.

Just like what Canelo is doing in his next fight, it will be in his hometown Mexico against Ryder. However, Taylor's fight almost ruin his career as it was a close fight with Jack and as what we have been saying very controversial outcome.

Same with Lopez, against Sandor Martin, he has difficulty against the bigger Martin or the natural 140 lbs. So what's more if he is going to fight the very best of this division which is the former unified champion. Taylor though as fought in the US before so I don't see Teo even if he has the advantage of fans in MSG winning here. And Scots are also fond of their boxers and going to support and maybe some of them are going to travel in the US to see this fight.

I even thought Jack Catterall was an easy fight and who knows he was probably cherry-picked by Josh Taylor for his homecoming fight. Taylor having difficulty making the weight might be the factor. But there are other things to consider, Catterall tried to trash talk and even held the neck of Taylor to get under his skin. Taylor was probably angry and was out of focus. Or the homecoming fight might have pressured him as his local fans were expecting their undisputed champion to showcase his skills.

The same with Canelo, maybe there is also pressure to perform well in his homecoming fight.

That fight was supposed to be a walk in the park for the former undisputed champion but it was the opposite thing because it was a near defeat on his case as he probably underestimated Jack Catterall on that specific fight. And yes, that was probably a cherry picked fight because it's a homecoming fight but we had a different fight as Josh Taylor was struggling and I suppose he was surprised by it too.

Talking about that, will that same scenario happen again but this time against Teofimo Lopez? Because if Josh was already struggling at that fight against Catterral then maybe Teo got some decent chances to upset the champion and this may be his best fight where he will be the champion against an opponent that doesn't have any prior injuries.

Just had a wild thought though hehe, either way, I can't just disregard the fact that Josh used to dominate this division and Teo is just a mere challenger on his throne.

There could be factors that might affect Josh Taylor's performance against Jack, maybe the style of Catterall is not suited for him, or there is pressure on his shoulder to be great and make a statement win in front of his home crowd, or he didn't train that hard or underestimate his rival or even the weight is an issue on him.

Josh is the king of this division, he had all the belts and beat the champion and tough boxer. It's that Jack Catterall that night is really hard for Josh to crack but he still did his best and rise to the occasion and score although a controversial win. However, they should have learn from that fight and not let Teo Lopez open his mouth and win the mental battle.

You've got a point there mate. There could be some reasons behind those fight why Josh Taylor was having a hard time cracking Catterall and the latter even managed to down him in the 8th round which is an indeed a hard task for the boxers who have fought Josh previously. That right there will be the highlights for Teo's training because not everyone could do that and I bet they are looking what are the ways to duplicate that scenario so that Teo can somehow have an advantage because looking at it closely, Teo Lopez doesn't stand any chance.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on April 16, 2023, 02:30:43 AM
Training camp is the essential one for the player to train well to face the competition in the ring with more potential. Caterall is weak player compared to the Taylor for sure, But his training make the huge difference in the game. Taylor should not underestimate the opponent in any circumference. Because the weak player can K.O the powerful player at the right time by making some good practices and using their own strategies for the every opponent. When the player uses different strategies for different players, the opponent can’t find the strategy which he going to use for him. Lopez who had a capacity to win the Taylor by the practices in the training camp all the time. So this game will make huge difference in the carriers of Lopez.
Do you think Josh Taylor will not have any prepare and train himself before this fight happen? :D

Any athletes will always train himself very hard and being consistent, it's really a big mistake if he's confident enough to win without need any training. Jack Catterall is a good boxer, his fight against Taylor was close and some people think Catterall should win, not Taylor.

It's true a weak boxer can K.O. his opponent, but it's happen if the boxer has a weak chin and he has a slow movement.
If you happen to be a unified world champion the pressure to train and perform at your highest level is always there, it's challenging when you are already up there because you have to sustain your motivation to stay on top, and that's what makes great champion more so in boxing where you are only good at your last fight, both fighters will be on their peak level especially Teofimo who wants to redeem himself from that Kambosos loss.
I don't consider the Caterall fight as a measure that Taylor will have a bad performance, in boxing style makes fight sometimes your opponent's style is something you can't figure out and you become disappointed which will cause you to lose the fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Maslate on April 17, 2023, 07:17:42 AM
Training camp is the essential one for the player to train well to face the competition in the ring with more potential. Caterall is weak player compared to the Taylor for sure, But his training make the huge difference in the game. Taylor should not underestimate the opponent in any circumference. Because the weak player can K.O the powerful player at the right time by making some good practices and using their own strategies for the every opponent. When the player uses different strategies for different players, the opponent can’t find the strategy which he going to use for him. Lopez who had a capacity to win the Taylor by the practices in the training camp all the time. So this game will make huge difference in the carriers of Lopez.
Do you think Josh Taylor will not have any prepare and train himself before this fight happen? :D

Any athletes will always train himself very hard and being consistent, it's really a big mistake if he's confident enough to win without need any training. Jack Catterall is a good boxer, his fight against Taylor was close and some people think Catterall should win, not Taylor.

It's true a weak boxer can K.O. his opponent, but it's happen if the boxer has a weak chin and he has a slow movement.
If you happen to be a unified world champion the pressure to train and perform at your highest level is always there, it's challenging when you are already up there because you have to sustain your motivation to stay on top, and that's what makes great champion more so in boxing where you are only good at your last fight, both fighters will be on their peak level especially Teofimo who wants to redeem himself from that Kambosos loss.
I don't consider the Caterall fight as a measure that Taylor will have a bad performance, in boxing style makes fight sometimes your opponent's style is something you can't figure out and you become disappointed which will cause you to lose the fight.

I agree. Josh Taylor's almost loss was not because he underestimated Jack Catterall or he didn't prepared as much, it's just that Caterrall's style was different from what Josh had battled before that's why in some rounds we can see Catterall dominating the fight and he even managed to knocked down Taylor somewhere in the 8th round if I'm not mistaken. Nevertheless, that fight of Josh Taylor will not be a basis and I believe Josh Taylor picked a few good lessons on that fight that will make him more dangerous against his future opponents, Teofimo Lopez, included. I'm looking forward to see both boxers having a good fight in the ring and giving the people an outstanding entertaining fight that they wanted to see.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on April 19, 2023, 07:29:38 AM
It's always funny, and a bit annoying to listen to see Teofimo Lopez interviewed. But at least Teofimo seems to finally recognize that he is facing a fighter that is not just good but great. Earlier, Teofimo was caught on camera asking his team if he still has the fire which probably means that he starts to doubt himself especially when he is fighting the former undisputed and lineal champion of his new division.

Josh Taylor flew from the UK to Newark, New Jersey during the Stevenson-Yoshino fight because it was a big Top Rank event and he also thought that Lopez will be there to hype their fight. Lopez didn't attend though and Taylor is now bullying him online that he is a coward and he is hiding. This is probably the first time Lopez is not trash-talking his opponent since he became a world champion. Lopez seemed a little bit down mentally lately and is looking for motivation. He also hopes Loma will beat Haney. Maybe he will be motivated if Loma beats young Haney.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Vaculin on April 19, 2023, 07:33:12 PM
It's always funny, and a bit annoying to listen to see Teofimo Lopez interviewed. But at least Teofimo seems to finally recognize that he is facing a fighter that is not just good but great. Earlier, Teofimo was caught on camera asking his team if he still has the fire which probably means that he starts to doubt himself especially when he is fighting the former undisputed and lineal champion of his new division.
Probably, he was just asking someone to add his confidence but if what you said is truly the case, I'm afraid he's already in the losing side because the moment the boxer is already doubting himself is the same moment where he already knew what would be his situation and I pretty much sense that he's not seeing himself in the winner's corner.

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Josh Taylor flew from the UK to Newark, New Jersey during the Stevenson-Yoshino fight because it was a big Top Rank event and he also thought that Lopez will be there to hype their fight. Lopez didn't attend though and Taylor is now bullying him online that he is a coward and he is hiding. This is probably the first time Lopez is not trash-talking his opponent since he became a world champion. Lopez seemed a little bit down mentally lately and is looking for motivation. He also hopes Loma will beat Haney. Maybe he will be motivated if Loma beats young Haney.
Teo was just saying nonsense in that interview and saying how great he is when in-fact he was talking and will face the undefeated champion and a former undisputed champion, we can see that Taylor is just confident that Teo can't honestly bring him down and give his first defeat. Teo probably knew that as we can see it in his face during the interview that he was just bluffing.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on May 23, 2023, 11:03:05 AM
It's less than 3 weeks before another big showdown of Top Rank happens. It seems like I am not seeing much of the 2 in social media, but maybe I am not following enough of the boxing media nowadays. Both are arrogant fighters so they will make a trend during fight week when both are in New York. Teofimo Lopez the more popular fighter in the US seems silent while Josh said he will retire Lopez.

And it seems like Devin Haney already re-signed with Top Rank. Top Rank earlier offered Haney (win or lose to Loma) a shot at the winner of Taylor-Lopez. So it will add more motivation for both fighters to win since their next show is once again a PPV which means big money once again.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on May 23, 2023, 11:16:25 AM
It's less than 3 weeks before another big showdown of Top Rank happens. It seems like I am not seeing much of the 2 in social media, but maybe I am not following enough of the boxing media nowadays. Both are arrogant fighters so they will make a trend during fight week when both are in New York. Teofimo Lopez the more popular fighter in the US seems silent while Josh said he will retire Lopez.

And it seems like Devin Haney already re-signed with Top Rank. Top Rank earlier offered Haney (win or lose to Loma) a shot at the winner of Taylor-Lopez. So it will add more motivation for both fighters to win since their next show is once again a PPV which means big money once again.

Time flies so fast and before we knew it's already fight week between the two.

Lopez's last fight against Martin wasn't impressive and many thought that he lost that one (including me) so I think this Taylor fight is one hell of a climb for him and if indeed he will successful in dethroning Taylor then I guess money fights will await him in the future including Haney if ever the latter will decide to move up in weight.

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: TravelMug on May 23, 2023, 11:51:32 AM
It's less than 3 weeks before another big showdown of Top Rank happens. It seems like I am not seeing much of the 2 in social media, but maybe I am not following enough of the boxing media nowadays. Both are arrogant fighters so they will make a trend during fight week when both are in New York. Teofimo Lopez the more popular fighter in the US seems silent while Josh said he will retire Lopez.

And it seems like Devin Haney already re-signed with Top Rank. Top Rank earlier offered Haney (win or lose to Loma) a shot at the winner of Taylor-Lopez. So it will add more motivation for both fighters to win since their next show is once again a PPV which means big money once again.

Time flies so fast and before we knew it's already fight week between the two.

Lopez's last fight against Martin wasn't impressive and many thought that he lost that one (including me) so I think this Taylor fight is one hell of a climb for him and if indeed he will successful in dethroning Taylor then I guess money fights will await him in the future including Haney if ever the latter will decide to move up in weight.

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).

I guess the Ryan vs Tank and the recent Haney vs Loma was the two of the most anticipating match May that's why we totally overlook this one. But I do agree, Teo still has nothing to proved in this weight category but he is lucky that he will have a chance that both of them are under Top Rank and he was given this opportunity although I was not sure if he is going to extend his contact with Top Rank though.

But just like the rest of us, I think Taylor will be too much for Lopez in this fight. Taylor is the undisputed at this division, it's that he just have to give up some of his belt and chooses to retain one and he is going to defend it against Lopez.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: aioc on May 24, 2023, 06:34:24 AM


I guess the Ryan vs Tank and the recent Haney vs Loma was the two of the most anticipating match May that's why we totally overlook this one. But I do agree, Teo still has nothing to proved in this weight category but he is lucky that he will have a chance that both of them are under Top Rank and he was given this opportunity although I was not sure if he is going to extend his contact with Top Rank though.

But just like the rest of us, I think Taylor will be too much for Lopez in this fight. Taylor is the undisputed at this division, it's that he just have to give up some of his belt and chooses to retain one and he is going to defend it against Lopez.

I always remember that Lopez is one of the fighters that beat Lomachenko although Loma was injured when he fought Lopez, still, Lopez has gone through the fire, the only problem is his father who is not a good trainer he is more of a cheerleader than a trainer.
Lopez is a clear underdog here but that doesn't mean that he has a chance to win against Taylor, he is a quick hard puncher but very impulsive he had a hard time pacing himself he is always very eager to knock out his opponent.
His last fight against Sandor is quite disappointing and this is one of the reasons why he is the underdog but then again a very healthy and motivated Lopez can surprise us all.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kelvinid on May 24, 2023, 08:26:01 AM

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kasabus on May 24, 2023, 09:47:00 AM
It's less than 3 weeks before another big showdown of Top Rank happens. It seems like I am not seeing much of the 2 in social media, but maybe I am not following enough of the boxing media nowadays. Both are arrogant fighters so they will make a trend during fight week when both are in New York. Teofimo Lopez the more popular fighter in the US seems silent while Josh said he will retire Lopez.

And it seems like Devin Haney already re-signed with Top Rank. Top Rank earlier offered Haney (win or lose to Loma) a shot at the winner of Taylor-Lopez. So it will add more motivation for both fighters to win since their next show is once again a PPV which means big money once again.

Time flies so fast and before we knew it's already fight week between the two.

Lopez's last fight against Martin wasn't impressive and many thought that he lost that one (including me) so I think this Taylor fight is one hell of a climb for him and if indeed he will successful in dethroning Taylor then I guess money fights will await him in the future including Haney if ever the latter will decide to move up in weight.

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).

For sure, there will be a lot of doors will open for Teo Lopez if he can able to upset the crowd favorite as well as the bookies favorite but that is a big what if for now as just like you and me, there are the majority as well who is inclined to see JT winning.
Teo might think that he can do it but there's no way I'd believe that he can actually defeat the former undisputed and undefeated Josh Taylor until he can prove it clearly without a doubt because his skills are literally not enough to defeat the Tartan Tornado.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: yazher on May 24, 2023, 12:06:11 PM

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.

If he can beat some strong fighters with no doubts or controversy, he will be no doubt to be recognized as a really strong boxer but if he continues to struggle in his every fight, I guess your right Lopez is truly an overrated dude who is just there to fool the fans and he is not worthy of any blockbuster fight at all. if he continues to show such performance, he will also lose his value because after all, the fans need some real entertainment and therefore they wanted to watch a skilled boxer that will gonna finish his opponent with a strong knockout power.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 24, 2023, 12:09:17 PM

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.

If he can beat some strong fighters with no doubts or controversy, he will be no doubt to be recognized as a really strong boxer but if he continues to struggle in his every fight, I guess your right Lopez is truly an overrated dude who is just there to fool the fans and he is not worthy of any blockbuster fight at all. if he continues to show such performance, he will also lose his value because after all, the fans need some real entertainment and therefore they wanted to watch a skilled boxer that will gonna finish his opponent with a strong knockout power.
Maybe not overrated but when he move up in weight class, that's where he will have to face tougher opponents and that's what happen to him at 140 lbs. Very close but not impressive win.

But the good thing is that since he is with Top Rank and the champion right now is with the same promotional banner, he was given instant gift by Bob Arum to fight for the belt against Josh Taylor. And then we will see if Teo is really and elite or just maybe a good boxer in this stack up division.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on May 24, 2023, 12:39:32 PM
It's less than 3 weeks before another big showdown of Top Rank happens. It seems like I am not seeing much of the 2 in social media, but maybe I am not following enough of the boxing media nowadays. Both are arrogant fighters so they will make a trend during fight week when both are in New York. Teofimo Lopez the more popular fighter in the US seems silent while Josh said he will retire Lopez.

And it seems like Devin Haney already re-signed with Top Rank. Top Rank earlier offered Haney (win or lose to Loma) a shot at the winner of Taylor-Lopez. So it will add more motivation for both fighters to win since their next show is once again a PPV which means big money once again.

Time flies so fast and before we knew it's already fight week between the two.

Lopez's last fight against Martin wasn't impressive and many thought that he lost that one (including me) so I think this Taylor fight is one hell of a climb for him and if indeed he will successful in dethroning Taylor then I guess money fights will await him in the future including Haney if ever the latter will decide to move up in weight.

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).

For sure, there will be a lot of doors will open for Teo Lopez if he can able to upset the crowd favorite as well as the bookies favorite but that is a big what if for now as just like you and me, there are the majority as well who is inclined to see JT winning.
Teo might think that he can do it but there's no way I'd believe that he can actually defeat the former undisputed and undefeated Josh Taylor until he can prove it clearly without a doubt because his skills are literally not enough to defeat the Tartan Tornado.

I check one of my favorite sports bookies and yes, Teo is the underdog in this fight. The thing that makes everyone hate Teo is that he opens his mouth together with his Father and that is really annoying.

Even when Kambosos defeated them, they think that everyone conspires against them to lose that fight when everyone saw what happen as Kambosos is dictating that fight in the beginning. So here, it will be very difficult for him as Josh is best of what this division can offer.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on May 25, 2023, 11:20:09 AM
Maybe not overrated but when he move up in weight class, that's where he will have to face tougher opponents and that's what happen to him at 140 lbs. Very close but not impressive win.

But the good thing is that since he is with Top Rank and the champion right now is with the same promotional banner, he was given instant gift by Bob Arum to fight for the belt against Josh Taylor. And then we will see if Teo is really and elite or just maybe a good boxer in this stack up division.

That's the good thing about Bob Arum, he likes to give opportunities, or shall we say, he likes to prioritize his boxers with heavy hands, I mean knockout artists because that kind of talent will draw crowds, unlike defensive boxers which is boring to ordinary boxing fans.

Maybe Lopez's camp chooses Taylor because the latter is inactive for more than a year and ring rust would set in and might be a disadvantage for him because training in a gym and fighting in a ring are two different things, just hope that this will offset Teo's disadvantage to Taylor's experience.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: smyslov on May 25, 2023, 11:48:32 AM


My take is prime Josh Taylor would've easily schooled Teofimo Lopez and might take him out in the late rounds. But considering the 1-year inactivity of Josh Taylor and he admitted before that making weight is so difficult already as he aged. Earlier, the only reason Taylor stayed for 1 last fight against Caterrall is in order to settle their controversial first fight. Now I am not counting out Lopez as we do not how what version of Taylor will show this June 10. But I still believe Taylor will be the slight favorite here.    



Between the two Josh is the more technical and more patient I have him winning by the decision I doubt if he can knock out Lopez he has good movement and defense in the ring, but I never rule out the possibility that Lopez gets knockout because of his impatient to attack that always causes him to get knocked down, like what happened in the Sandor Martin and Kambosos fight.
Teofimo Lopez has huge potential but his last two fights are not good he needs a good trainer to level up his style a loss against Taylor will strain the father relationship, because right now his father cannot be considered a good trainer, and Lopez needs a better one.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kelvinid on May 25, 2023, 12:34:19 PM

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.

If he can beat some strong fighters with no doubts or controversy, he will be no doubt to be recognized as a really strong boxer but if he continues to struggle in his every fight, I guess your right Lopez is truly an overrated dude who is just there to fool the fans and he is not worthy of any blockbuster fight at all. if he continues to show such performance, he will also lose his value because after all, the fans need some real entertainment and therefore they wanted to watch a skilled boxer that will gonna finish his opponent with a strong knockout power.

He is still entertaining to watch, but that doesn't guarantee a win. Some boxers remain entertaining even in defeat because they are willing to engage in toe-to-toe battles. We have witnessed Lopez's fighting style, and he is far from boring like Haney. What stands out about Lopez is his confidence as a boxer. He truly believes in himself like a great champion.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Natalim on May 25, 2023, 01:22:30 PM

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.

If he can beat some strong fighters with no doubts or controversy, he will be no doubt to be recognized as a really strong boxer but if he continues to struggle in his every fight, I guess your right Lopez is truly an overrated dude who is just there to fool the fans and he is not worthy of any blockbuster fight at all. if he continues to show such performance, he will also lose his value because after all, the fans need some real entertainment and therefore they wanted to watch a skilled boxer that will gonna finish his opponent with a strong knockout power.

He is still entertaining to watch, but that doesn't guarantee a win. Some boxers remain entertaining even in defeat because they are willing to engage in toe-to-toe battles. We have witnessed Lopez's fighting style, and he is far from boring like Haney. What stands out about Lopez is his confidence as a boxer. He truly believes in himself like a great champion.

Perhaps he has garnered a fair share of critics, but his record remains commendable. While he is no longer undefeated due to his loss against Kambosos, he made the decision to move up to a heavier division. In this new division, he has already secured two consecutive victories, demonstrating his prowess. Now, he has the opportunity to showcase his skills against a proven champion, which presents a significant chance for him to succeed. Let's see if he can rise to the occasion and achieve victory against this tougher opponent.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: freedomgo on May 25, 2023, 03:04:00 PM

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.

I agree. Teofimo Lopez is way beyond the line just because he got lucky and beat the injured Loma few years back, if that's what he is holding that made his ego big, then that will be also the reason why he will be embarrassed again. People have been laughing at him because of that and he should've defeated Kambosos impressively so that people will believe in him but that was not the case as he got defeated.

I'm already excited to see him kissing the canvass because he's just overconfident of what he have, can't wait to see him dance against the former undisputed.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Botnake on May 25, 2023, 04:56:55 PM

I'm more inclined to a Taylor win so that Lopez will be humbled, arrogant kid with only a fluked win against Loma hehe (sorry to Lopez's fans here).

He will be tested again by a real champion. If he struggles against Kambosos, I don't see him having a good chance of winning against a more complete boxer. I believe that Teofimo Lopez is overrated. He gained popularity by beating Loma, but his career is not going well yet. He still needs to prove himself again, and it starts with beating Taylor.

I agree. Teofimo Lopez is way beyond the line just because he got lucky and beat the injured Loma few years back, if that's what he is holding that made his ego big, then that will be also the reason why he will be embarrassed again. People have been laughing at him because of that and he should've defeated Kambosos impressively so that people will believe in him but that was not the case as he got defeated.

I'm already excited to see him kissing the canvass because he's just overconfident of what he have, can't wait to see him dance against the former undisputed.

Or else, Lopez's camp could have agreed with Lomachenko's attempt to have a rematch to convince the whole boxing community that he can still defeat a healthy Lomachenko but they refused because they surely know that Teofimo Lopez was just lucky to gain a win from that fight.

Who could have thought that the latter will attain an injury in the midst of his training because after securing three belts, his efforts and time were definitely wasted because of that shoulder injury as it resulted him in the loss of those belts and that fight made him back to zero again.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on May 25, 2023, 09:32:18 PM


I guess the Ryan vs Tank and the recent Haney vs Loma was the two of the most anticipating match May that's why we totally overlook this one. But I do agree, Teo still has nothing to proved in this weight category but he is lucky that he will have a chance that both of them are under Top Rank and he was given this opportunity although I was not sure if he is going to extend his contact with Top Rank though.

But just like the rest of us, I think Taylor will be too much for Lopez in this fight. Taylor is the undisputed at this division, it's that he just have to give up some of his belt and chooses to retain one and he is going to defend it against Lopez.

I always remember that Lopez is one of the fighters that beat Lomachenko although Loma was injured when he fought Lopez, still, Lopez has gone through the fire, the only problem is his father who is not a good trainer he is more of a cheerleader than a trainer.
Lopez is a clear underdog here but that doesn't mean that he has a chance to win against Taylor, he is a quick hard puncher but very impulsive he had a hard time pacing himself he is always very eager to knock out his opponent.
His last fight against Sandor is quite disappointing and this is one of the reasons why he is the underdog but then again a very healthy and motivated Lopez can surprise us all.


On paper, it should be the Canelo-Ryder and Loma-Haney as the most anticipated fights this month since they were for the undisputed belts but the sport is a business and fights are usually made not to cater to its hardcore fans but to bring the casuals and even those that have no idea to little know-how about the sport. So it was Davis-Garcia that became the most anticipated fight this month bringing 1.2 million PPV buys. It was reported that Loma-Haney PPV buys were only around 150k which is very very bad and it might also mean that ESPN and probably Top Rank too are losing money with these numbers. 

I expect this fight to catch up and make some noise next week or during the fight week. I also felt that Loma-Haney was not promoted well as I hardly see them prior to its fight week although it did well during the fight week. Attendance for the Loma-Haney bout of 14k was beyond my expectations and there were a lot of celebrities including fighters from rival promotions and networks which is unbelievable knowing how boring Haney fights. Although they might have flocked because it was for the undisputed belts and for Loma. PPV numbers though failed and Taylor-Lopez might do better especially if Lopez can fire back at Taylor's trash-talking. I expect Taylor, another arrogant fighter to try to bully Lopez during the coming face-offs.

The odds favored Taylor a lot. Probably because Teofimo's biggest win was only against an injured Loma and he was gifted a win in his last fight. Although Taylor himself had a very bad performance against Catterall in his last fight and he is already inactive for more than a year which might be enough for Lopez to capitalize. Taylor is also being vocal about the latest controversies in boxing in the US lately where all of them favored the home fighters. Teofimo's controversial decision win over Martin, Romero's surprise stoppage win over Barroso, and last week's Haney victory over the dominating Loma. Taylor wanted zero American judges in his fight with Teofimo Lopez and hopefully, it will be granted. They can take Japanese, Koreans, or other nationalities that are neutral.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Maslate on May 28, 2023, 05:34:01 PM
On paper, it should be the Canelo-Ryder and Loma-Haney as the most anticipated fights this month since they were for the undisputed belts but the sport is a business and fights are usually made not to cater to its hardcore fans but to bring the casuals and even those that have no idea to little know-how about the sport. So it was Davis-Garcia that became the most anticipated fight this month bringing 1.2 million PPV buys. It was reported that Loma-Haney PPV buys were only around 150k which is very very bad and it might also mean that ESPN and probably Top Rank too are losing money with these numbers. 

I agree. But I guess that was on Top Rank's mistake because they thought that having Lomachenko in the equation will bring them the much-needed PPV buys and will help the event survive, although it's not as much as what the Garcia-Davis fight amass but at least the figures will be reasonable. But around 150,000 PPV buys? Boy, that sure is much lesser than expected as I think they are expecting somewhere around 400-500k.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on May 29, 2023, 11:04:49 AM
On paper, it should be the Canelo-Ryder and Loma-Haney as the most anticipated fights this month since they were for the undisputed belts but the sport is a business and fights are usually made not to cater to its hardcore fans but to bring the casuals and even those that have no idea to little know-how about the sport. So it was Davis-Garcia that became the most anticipated fight this month bringing 1.2 million PPV buys. It was reported that Loma-Haney PPV buys were only around 150k which is very very bad and it might also mean that ESPN and probably Top Rank too are losing money with these numbers. 

I agree. But I guess that was on Top Rank's mistake because they thought that having Lomachenko in the equation will bring them the much-needed PPV buys and will help the event survive, although it's not as much as what the Garcia-Davis fight amass but at least the figures will be reasonable. But around 150,000 PPV buys? Boy, that sure is much lesser than expected as I think they are expecting somewhere around 400-500k.

Loma is always a headliner with Top Rank but I don't remember any of his fights on PPV. Haney is not even good in English and there is less Ukrainian blood in the US. I believe it is more on Haney being an American but boring with less power.

Anyways, 150k at $59.99 is already $9 million which should be enough to cover their guaranteed purse. And that did not include those who paid for the $9.99 monthly and $99.99 yearly subscription because of this fight. Plus the audience of 14k was really high probably because it was an undisputed fight. Seldom I can see a lot of personalities and some were even rivals to Top Rank and ESPN were there. So Top Rank and ESPN should be good or with less net income than expected.

It seems like Haney needs more drama and antics if he wants to earn more than $10 million in the future. Maybe Josh Taylor if he continues to bully Teofimo Lopez during the press conference will have better numbers. Although it also needs Teofimo Lopez to do his own acting like what he did during the Kambosos fight but he seems scared to fight back knowing how good a 100% Josh Taylor can be.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on May 29, 2023, 03:42:54 PM
It seems like Haney needs more drama and antics if he wants to earn more than $10 million in the future. Maybe Josh Taylor if he continues to bully Teofimo Lopez during the press conference will have better numbers. Although it also needs Teofimo Lopez to do his own acting like what he did during the Kambosos fight but he seems scared to fight back knowing how good a 100% Josh Taylor can be.

I don't think that Teo Lopez is going to back down here, he already started his trash talking when interviewed about this fight. I mean we also know how big mouth his Father was and it adds to the whole villain persona of the Lopez and why most fans hate them and also one reason why they could sell any fights they want, specially his Father's mouth.

But yes, this is a dangerous thread that they are walking into, Josh Taylor, although might be having problems in weight or could have put pressure on his side when he fought Jack Catterall on his homecourt, is now reeling for a good comeback win against Teo so this is going to be a good fight, might go for a full 12 rounds punishment for Lopez in the hands of Taylor.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on May 30, 2023, 02:53:44 PM
It seems like Haney needs more drama and antics if he wants to earn more than $10 million in the future. Maybe Josh Taylor if he continues to bully Teofimo Lopez during the press conference will have better numbers. Although it also needs Teofimo Lopez to do his own acting like what he did during the Kambosos fight but he seems scared to fight back knowing how good a 100% Josh Taylor can be.

I don't think that Teo Lopez is going to back down here, he already started his trash talking when interviewed about this fight. I mean we also know how big mouth his Father was and it adds to the whole villain persona of the Lopez and why most fans hate them and also one reason why they could sell any fights they want, specially his Father's mouth.

But yes, this is a dangerous thread that they are walking into, Josh Taylor, although might be having problems in weight or could have put pressure on his side when he fought Jack Catterall on his homecourt, is now reeling for a good comeback win against Teo so this is going to be a good fight, might go for a full 12 rounds punishment for Lopez in the hands of Taylor.

That's good then. Let these 2 arrogant fighters trash-talk each other and maybe do some drama in the press conferences and the weigh-in. Personally, I am not a fan of both but of course, we cannot deny the fact that Josh Taylor is a former undisputed champion.

The betting odds are not really that far off. Because Taylor himself performed badly against Catterall and then went inactive. I can only hope that as much as possible his request that the judges are not all-Americans. Maybe he should also request a non-American referee or at least get the approval of the possible referees. There's too much controversy in the US officiating lately due to the Loma-Haney and the Barroso-Romero results.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 30, 2023, 06:39:18 PM


My take is prime Josh Taylor would've easily schooled Teofimo Lopez and might take him out in the late rounds. But considering the 1-year inactivity of Josh Taylor and he admitted before that making weight is so difficult already as he aged. Earlier, the only reason Taylor stayed for 1 last fight against Caterrall is in order to settle their controversial first fight. Now I am not counting out Lopez as we do not how what version of Taylor will show this June 10. But I still believe Taylor will be the slight favorite here.    



Between the two Josh is the more technical and more patient I have him winning by the decision I doubt if he can knock out Lopez he has good movement and defense in the ring, but I never rule out the possibility that Lopez gets knockout because of his impatient to attack that always causes him to get knocked down, like what happened in the Sandor Martin and Kambosos fight.
Yes, if he is impatient and try to go for the offensive early, Josh being the technical might caught him coming in and maybe score a flash knockout, like what Kambosos did in the first fight. but Lopez is still going to be very dangerous as he still has the power to knockout anyone.

Teofimo Lopez has huge potential but his last two fights are not good he needs a good trainer to level up his style a loss against Taylor will strain the father relationship, because right now his father cannot be considered a good trainer, and Lopez needs a better one.
I doubt that it will strain his relationship with his Father. He shows respect to Sr, but in any case, Sr should be the one to tell his son that it's time to move on to a new trainer if they lost this fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 31, 2023, 06:57:51 PM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 01, 2023, 06:31:45 AM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?

Yes, this is obvious to make the fight more hype, we all know that Teo loves controversy himself, even after he lost to Kambosos he continue to attack the system, his manager and anyone in his way.

And now that Josh Taylor is his opponent, so we will trash talk just like what he did on his previous fight. You can even see at one interview I saw in IG that he is mocking Josh Taylor's accent and then Taylor just lost it and try to walk out of the interview. So for now this is going to be a mind games for this two fighters but the real test in inside the ring. Whether Teo has what it takes to win against the very best of 140 lbs.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kelvinid on June 01, 2023, 11:57:48 AM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?

Yes, this is obvious to make the fight more hype, we all know that Teo loves controversy himself, even after he lost to Kambosos he continue to attack the system, his manager and anyone in his way.

And now that Josh Taylor is his opponent, so we will trash talk just like what he did on his previous fight. You can even see at one interview I saw in IG that he is mocking Josh Taylor's accent and then Taylor just lost it and try to walk out of the interview. So for now this is going to be a mind games for this two fighters but the real test in inside the ring. Whether Teo has what it takes to win against the very best of 140 lbs.

Teo does want to enjoy significant revenue in this fight, so he'll say anything to capture the attention of the fans. He can hype things up or use various tactics, but there should be limitations on his words. It's important not to say anything too serious that would harm his opponent. While boxing is a combat sport, it is still a sport that should be enjoyed by the fans, and we know that fans would not want to see a boxer die in the ring.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 01, 2023, 04:06:58 PM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?

Yes, this is obvious to make the fight more hype, we all know that Teo loves controversy himself, even after he lost to Kambosos he continue to attack the system, his manager and anyone in his way.

And now that Josh Taylor is his opponent, so we will trash talk just like what he did on his previous fight. You can even see at one interview I saw in IG that he is mocking Josh Taylor's accent and then Taylor just lost it and try to walk out of the interview. So for now this is going to be a mind games for this two fighters but the real test in inside the ring. Whether Teo has what it takes to win against the very best of 140 lbs.

Teo does want to enjoy significant revenue in this fight, so he'll say anything to capture the attention of the fans. He can hype things up or use various tactics, but there should be limitations on his words. It's important not to say anything too serious that would harm his opponent. While boxing is a combat sport, it is still a sport that should be enjoyed by the fans, and we know that fans would not want to see a boxer die in the ring.

I think Josh Taylor is the A-side here, he has the belt, a former unified champion and undefeated, so I doubt that Teo will have a significant advantage as far as revenue goes. But it's good that he tries to sell the fight with his kind of statement just trash talking and trying to get into the mind of his opponent. But I doubt that Josh will fall for it.

He has fought a lot of great champions leading up to the capture of the 4 major belts. So he already know the tricks that Teo is trying to pull here. The only best win by Teo is against a injured Loma. He wouldn't even last against Regis Prograis whom Josh beat in a hard fought match.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: carlisle1 on June 01, 2023, 04:36:46 PM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?

Yes, this is obvious to make the fight more hype, we all know that Teo loves controversy himself, even after he lost to Kambosos he continue to attack the system, his manager and anyone in his way.

And now that Josh Taylor is his opponent, so we will trash talk just like what he did on his previous fight. You can even see at one interview I saw in IG that he is mocking Josh Taylor's accent and then Taylor just lost it and try to walk out of the interview. So for now this is going to be a mind games for this two fighters but the real test in inside the ring. Whether Teo has what it takes to win against the very best of 140 lbs.

Teo does want to enjoy significant revenue in this fight, so he'll say anything to capture the attention of the fans. He can hype things up or use various tactics, but there should be limitations on his words. It's important not to say anything too serious that would harm his opponent. While boxing is a combat sport, it is still a sport that should be enjoyed by the fans, and we know that fans would not want to see a boxer die in the ring.

Doing some stupid thing will capture the interest of the readers. After that statement, there are many people who will be engaged and
a possible to convert it to a ticket sale or any related things for the upcoming fight.

Making money as for sure is one of the reason why a fighter will make that kind of statement, though we really can't tell if that's just part of the advertisement or there's something more behind the statement.

Or also maybe it's a simple way to say he will KO Taylor! Just an opinion!


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: freedomgo on June 01, 2023, 04:49:32 PM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?

Why though, you think Teofimo Lopez will really do it? Like for real? Or at least capable of doing it? ;D

His chances in defeating the former unified champion are even much lower. So, it is clear that it's just his way to market this fight but sadly, he literally doesn't know anything about marketing as it shows that only minority of people (his fans mostly) will actually believe what he is saying. What he is saying is quite nonsense because people know his true capabilities.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 01, 2023, 08:57:12 PM
And again, Teo with another controversy:

Quote
"And I said it like it is, I wanna kill Josh Taylor.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1441384/complete-helmet-teofimo-lopez-backlash-boxing-josh-taylor/

But I don't think that he means that, perhaps he is hyping their upcoming fight here. No boxer wants to kill his opponent inside the ring. And most deaths happen by accident.

What do you think of Teo's statement though?

Why though, you think Teofimo Lopez will really do it? Like for real? Or at least capable of doing it? ;D

His chances in defeating the former unified champion are even much lower. So, it is clear that it's just his way to market this fight but sadly, he literally doesn't know anything about marketing as it shows that only minority of people (his fans mostly) will actually believe what he is saying. What he is saying is quite nonsense because people know his true capabilities.

I guess Teo is breaking down mentally more, than trash talking here. It was revealed that he is going under the divorce proceedings, as he admitted that her wife filed for one already.

So that alone will cause anyone to really say things that they really doesn't mean to, specially those individuals who are very aggressive like a boxer of Teo's caliber. Boxers though as capable to do that in the ring, we've seen accidents happen but we really don't want that to see happening to any boxer.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 02, 2023, 10:42:40 AM
I guess Teo is breaking down mentally more, than trash talking here. It was revealed that he is going under the divorce proceedings, as he admitted that her wife filed for one already.

So that alone will cause anyone to really say things that they really doesn't mean to, specially those individuals who are very aggressive like a boxer of Teo's caliber. Boxers though as capable to do that in the ring, we've seen accidents happen but we really don't want that to see happening to any boxer.

I think it's just a figure of speech when he said that he will kill Josh Taylor, I mean how could he do that if he is not mentally prepared to this fight, this statement could backfire and he may be the one that could suffer a brutal loss.

As you said above that his wife is filing for a divorce then that's additional stress on his part that could really have an effect on his training camp. He is the underdog here so he must be on his "A" shift when he comes to the ring come fight night, bringing his perfect game plan to capture the belt but with the way we see it now, the chance of him winning became slimmer.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on June 02, 2023, 07:23:40 PM
I guess Teo is breaking down mentally more, than trash talking here. It was revealed that he is going under the divorce proceedings, as he admitted that her wife filed for one already.

So that alone will cause anyone to really say things that they really doesn't mean to, specially those individuals who are very aggressive like a boxer of Teo's caliber. Boxers though as capable to do that in the ring, we've seen accidents happen but we really don't want that to see happening to any boxer.

I think it's just a figure of speech when he said that he will kill Josh Taylor, I mean how could he do that if he is not mentally prepared to this fight, this statement could backfire and he may be the one that could suffer a brutal loss.

As you said above that his wife is filing for a divorce then that's additional stress on his part that could really have an effect on his training camp. He is the underdog here so he must be on his "A" shift when he comes to the ring come fight night, bringing his perfect game plan to capture the belt but with the way we see it now, the chance of him winning became slimmer.

He should be prepared if he doesn't want to add another embarrassment in his career or worse, he might caught Taylor's vicious punches off guard that will make him sleep into the canvass and have an early exit. For sure he doesn't want that, so instead of saying whatever kind of nonsense online and bark towards Taylor, he should make sure first that his mind is clear as their fight date is already around the corner. In-fact, 1 week to go.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 02, 2023, 09:00:05 PM
I guess Teo is breaking down mentally more, than trash talking here. It was revealed that he is going under the divorce proceedings, as he admitted that her wife filed for one already.

So that alone will cause anyone to really say things that they really doesn't mean to, specially those individuals who are very aggressive like a boxer of Teo's caliber. Boxers though as capable to do that in the ring, we've seen accidents happen but we really don't want that to see happening to any boxer.

I think it's just a figure of speech when he said that he will kill Josh Taylor, I mean how could he do that if he is not mentally prepared to this fight, this statement could backfire and he may be the one that could suffer a brutal loss.

As you said above that his wife is filing for a divorce then that's additional stress on his part that could really have an effect on his training camp. He is the underdog here so he must be on his "A" shift when he comes to the ring come fight night, bringing his perfect game plan to capture the belt but with the way we see it now, the chance of him winning became slimmer.

He did apologized though for that statement, whether figure of speech or if that is his true intentions (although we all know that boxer can be killed inside the ring, but the chances are slim).

Yeah, the divorce could be an additional stress on him, but he should be focus on this fight. This is a different environment and weight class for him. We've seen his previous fight at 140 lbs and he doesn't look good, but he is taking a big risk in fighting a very game Josh Taylor who I still consider the best of the 140 lbs and it's going to be hard for Teo and his pysche war might not work against Josh.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 03, 2023, 09:14:58 AM
Yeah, the divorce could be an additional stress on him, but he should be focus on this fight. This is a different environment and weight class for him. We've seen his previous fight at 140 lbs and he doesn't look good, but he is taking a big risk in fighting a very game Josh Taylor who I still consider the best of the 140 lbs and it's going to be hard for Teo and his pysche war might not work against Josh.

Just saw Josh Taylor interviewed by Max Kellerman and realized that Taylor has been in this weight class for a long time now, and that is a huge advantage for him because he is very comfortable in this division while Lopez was not doing good on his last fight in this division and for Teo's style is tailored-fit for Taylor to look good in the ring and I predict that this might end via knockout for Taylor, considering that he will shake off those ring rust early in the fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 03, 2023, 01:22:28 PM
Yeah, the divorce could be an additional stress on him, but he should be focus on this fight. This is a different environment and weight class for him. We've seen his previous fight at 140 lbs and he doesn't look good, but he is taking a big risk in fighting a very game Josh Taylor who I still consider the best of the 140 lbs and it's going to be hard for Teo and his pysche war might not work against Josh.

Just saw Josh Taylor interviewed by Max Kellerman and realized that Taylor has been in this weight class for a long time now, and that is a huge advantage for him because he is very comfortable in this division while Lopez was not doing good on his last fight in this division and for Teo's style is tailored-fit for Taylor to look good in the ring and I predict that this might end via knockout for Taylor, considering that he will shake off those ring rust early in the fight.

The match looks like a big risk for Lopez which is partly true but Bob Arum or whoever from Top Rank masterminded this fight is making this nearly at par. Taylor might be very acclimatized in this division capturing all 4 belts. But he is known to have struggled to make the weight in his last fights and probably the same reason why struggled and had an off-night against Catterall. And lastly, Taylor is inactive. I am excited to see their face-offs. And I hope Taylor will KO Lopez, make his dad cry, and end the Lopez hype.

If not for the inactivity, I guess Lopez is an easy x3 minimum. Anyways, I wonder why Taylor remained in this division when he is struggling to make the weight. Is it for money, knowing Lopez is a big money fight? Or is it because Top Rank cannot provide him a title shot at 147 where the 3 belts belong to PBC/Showtime and WBO champion Terrence Crawford just left them? But now that Crawford and Spence are facing each other for a possible 2-way fight, it is most likely that the final winner if there is no immediate trilogy will move up in weight and all the belts will become vacant. Taylor should stop forcing his body to make 140 and head on to 147 after this fight where he can request for a higher ranking right away since he became undisputed at 140.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 03, 2023, 02:49:32 PM
Yeah, the divorce could be an additional stress on him, but he should be focus on this fight. This is a different environment and weight class for him. We've seen his previous fight at 140 lbs and he doesn't look good, but he is taking a big risk in fighting a very game Josh Taylor who I still consider the best of the 140 lbs and it's going to be hard for Teo and his pysche war might not work against Josh.

Just saw Josh Taylor interviewed by Max Kellerman and realized that Taylor has been in this weight class for a long time now, and that is a huge advantage for him because he is very comfortable in this division while Lopez was not doing good on his last fight in this division and for Teo's style is tailored-fit for Taylor to look good in the ring and I predict that this might end via knockout for Taylor, considering that he will shake off those ring rust early in the fight.

The match looks like a big risk for Lopez which is partly true but Bob Arum or whoever from Top Rank masterminded this fight is making this nearly at par. Taylor might be very acclimatized in this division capturing all 4 belts. But he is known to have struggled to make the weight in his last fights and probably the same reason why struggled and had an off-night against Catterall. And lastly, Taylor is inactive. I am excited to see their face-offs. And I hope Taylor will KO Lopez, make his dad cry, and end the Lopez hype.

If not for the inactivity, I guess Lopez is an easy x3 minimum. Anyways, I wonder why Taylor remained in this division when he is struggling to make the weight. Is it for money, knowing Lopez is a big money fight? Or is it because Top Rank cannot provide him a title shot at 147 where the 3 belts belong to PBC/Showtime and WBO champion Terrence Crawford just left them? But now that Crawford and Spence are facing each other for a possible 2-way fight, it is most likely that the final winner if there is no immediate trilogy will move up in weight and all the belts will become vacant. Taylor should stop forcing his body to make 140 and head on to 147 after this fight where he can request for a higher ranking right away since he became undisputed at 140.

Probably it's more on the latter, 147 lbs is the money division, but if Josh Taylor can't secure a fight, at least a decent fighter that can make him good money, I think it's better for him to stay and fought a fighter like Teo Lopez.

Bob Arum's Top Rank doesn't have a decent 147 lbs, so probably that is one reason as well. And most of the time champions are giving privilege as well when they move up to have a chance to fight for the belt. But not in this case though, as again, we can go back to boxing politics, as 147 lbs is the money division, it's in a messed right now, (although finally, we will see Crawford vs Spence).


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 03, 2023, 08:36:29 PM
Yeah, the divorce could be an additional stress on him, but he should be focus on this fight. This is a different environment and weight class for him. We've seen his previous fight at 140 lbs and he doesn't look good, but he is taking a big risk in fighting a very game Josh Taylor who I still consider the best of the 140 lbs and it's going to be hard for Teo and his pysche war might not work against Josh.

Just saw Josh Taylor interviewed by Max Kellerman and realized that Taylor has been in this weight class for a long time now, and that is a huge advantage for him because he is very comfortable in this division while Lopez was not doing good on his last fight in this division and for Teo's style is tailored-fit for Taylor to look good in the ring and I predict that this might end via knockout for Taylor, considering that he will shake off those ring rust early in the fight.

The match looks like a big risk for Lopez which is partly true but Bob Arum or whoever from Top Rank masterminded this fight is making this nearly at par. Taylor might be very acclimatized in this division capturing all 4 belts. But he is known to have struggled to make the weight in his last fights and probably the same reason why struggled and had an off-night against Catterall. And lastly, Taylor is inactive. I am excited to see their face-offs. And I hope Taylor will KO Lopez, make his dad cry, and end the Lopez hype.

Speaking of Jack Catterall, he recently won his comeback fight against Australian Darragh Foley. He scored 2 knockdowns on that fight, but he can't finished the Australian, but manage to win 99-88, 98-89 and 97-90.

Who knows maybe after Taylor win here, the rematch could be back on track.

If not for the inactivity, I guess Lopez is an easy x3 minimum. Anyways, I wonder why Taylor remained in this division when he is struggling to make the weight. Is it for money, knowing Lopez is a big money fight? Or is it because Top Rank cannot provide him a title shot at 147 where the 3 belts belong to PBC/Showtime and WBO champion Terrence Crawford just left them? But now that Crawford and Spence are facing each other for a possible 2-way fight, it is most likely that the final winner if there is no immediate trilogy will move up in weight and all the belts will become vacant. Taylor should stop forcing his body to make 140 and head on to 147 after this fight where he can request for a higher ranking right away since he became undisputed at 140.

I think he can still make 140 lbs so most likely he will remain in this weight, again maybe go back for a rematch with Catterall or fight who ever emerges as the new champion or the other belts which he previously held. It will be a tough for him to get a shot at 147 lbs as it was held by PBC right now. The best shot they can make is against Vergil Ortiz with Golden Boy, if he will win against Eimantas Stanionis.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 05, 2023, 06:15:31 PM
Speaking of Jack Catterall, he recently won his comeback fight against Australian Darragh Foley. He scored 2 knockdowns on that fight, but he can't finished the Australian, but manage to win 99-88, 98-89 and 97-90.

Who knows maybe after Taylor win here, the rematch could be back on track.
At least it was a clear win. Catterall is now back on track and should be looking for another title shot. He actually just signed with Matchroom after the closure of Probellum. A rematch is not that easy to make now since he is now tied up to a big promotion with an exclusive network deal. And Taylor might move up in weight anytime soon. WBA champion Romero is now mandated to face Ohara Davies who already lost to Caterrall before. A big domestic rematch in the UK is possible since I am expecting Davies to win although he might be fighting not just Romero but the referee and judges. :D

If not for the inactivity, I guess Lopez is an easy x3 minimum. Anyways, I wonder why Taylor remained in this division when he is struggling to make the weight. Is it for money, knowing Lopez is a big money fight? Or is it because Top Rank cannot provide him a title shot at 147 where the 3 belts belong to PBC/Showtime and WBO champion Terrence Crawford just left them? But now that Crawford and Spence are facing each other for a possible 2-way fight, it is most likely that the final winner if there is no immediate trilogy will move up in weight and all the belts will become vacant. Taylor should stop forcing his body to make 140 and head on to 147 after this fight where he can request for a higher ranking right away since he became undisputed at 140.

I think he can still make 140 lbs so most likely he will remain in this weight, again maybe go back for a rematch with Catterall or fight who ever emerges as the new champion or the other belts which he previously held. It will be a tough for him to get a shot at 147 lbs as it was held by PBC right now. The best shot they can make is against Vergil Ortiz with Golden Boy, if he will win against Eimantas Stanionis.

He can make the weight but that means a lot of sacrifice. Instead of training for the techniques on how to win, Taylor will be spending a lot of his time making and maintaining his weight. Stanionis is not a real champion although his regular belt may turn into a real belt if the winner of Crawford and Spence vacates which is very possible. I also expect Stanionis to lose, it will be very hard to beat Ortiz, especially in his hometown of Texas, the most corrupt boxing commission in the US. Apart from Ortiz being an exceptional talent like Stanionis. Taylor should just position himself at 147 while the belts are still not vacant. But the big-money fights at 140 might be too tempting for him and Top Rank has no popular fighter at 147 after Crawford's departure.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: freedomgo on June 05, 2023, 06:44:42 PM
If not for the inactivity, I guess Lopez is an easy x3 minimum. Anyways, I wonder why Taylor remained in this division when he is struggling to make the weight. Is it for money, knowing Lopez is a big money fight? Or is it because Top Rank cannot provide him a title shot at 147 where the 3 belts belong to PBC/Showtime and WBO champion Terrence Crawford just left them? But now that Crawford and Spence are facing each other for a possible 2-way fight, it is most likely that the final winner if there is no immediate trilogy will move up in weight and all the belts will become vacant. Taylor should stop forcing his body to make 140 and head on to 147 after this fight where he can request for a higher ranking right away since he became undisputed at 140.

I think he can still make 140 lbs so most likely he will remain in this weight, again maybe go back for a rematch with Catterall or fight who ever emerges as the new champion or the other belts which he previously held. It will be a tough for him to get a shot at 147 lbs as it was held by PBC right now. The best shot they can make is against Vergil Ortiz with Golden Boy, if he will win against Eimantas Stanionis.

He can make the weight but that means a lot of sacrifice. Instead of training for the techniques on how to win, Taylor will be spending a lot of his time making and maintaining his weight. Stanionis is not a real champion although his regular belt may turn into a real belt if the winner of Crawford and Spence vacates which is very possible. I also expect Stanionis to lose, it will be very hard to beat Ortiz, especially in his hometown of Texas, the most corrupt boxing commission in the US. Apart from Ortiz being an exceptional talent like Stanionis. Taylor should just position himself at 147 while the belts are still not vacant. But the big-money fights at 140 might be too tempting for him and Top Rank has no popular fighter at 147 after Crawford's departure.

Taylor is already too late to even jump in the next weight class especially now that Spence and Crawford are still dominating the division, leaving the upcoming rising stars like Stanionis, Boots Ennis and Ortiz unable to hold the belt. But in the event where Crawford and Spence leave the industry, these 3 mentioned uprising boxers are way too ready to get the vacant belts as they have waited for that time for too long now.

So, as long as Josh Taylor can make his weight limit at light welter, there should be no problems and I'm still confident that he can still dominate the whole division. Teofimo Lopez can say whatever he wants but after this fight, he will again go back in the bottom waiting for some lucky chances as that were the reasons why he achieved this phase in the first place.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 06, 2023, 08:34:07 AM
Bob Arum's Top Rank doesn't have a decent 147 lbs, so probably that is one reason as well. And most of the time champions are giving privilege as well when they move up to have a chance to fight for the belt. But not in this case though, as again, we can go back to boxing politics, as 147 lbs is the money division, it's in a messed right now, (although finally, we will see Crawford vs Spence).

During Taylor's interview with Kellerman, he said he is will to fight Crawford or Spence if given the chance (give payday of course hehe) but i think for me if Taylor will move up to the 147lbs division, it's a good thing as he will give additional power to this division where only Crawford and Spence are dominating, maybe he can make this division exciting with his presence.

Back to the Teo Lopez fight, i'm now putting some money on Taylor ML @1.56, though I believed that he will KO Lopezbut  I won't underestimate the latter as he might still stand after the bell of round 12 sounded  ;D.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 06, 2023, 09:22:41 AM
Bob Arum's Top Rank doesn't have a decent 147 lbs, so probably that is one reason as well. And most of the time champions are giving privilege as well when they move up to have a chance to fight for the belt. But not in this case though, as again, we can go back to boxing politics, as 147 lbs is the money division, it's in a messed right now, (although finally, we will see Crawford vs Spence).

During Taylor's interview with Kellerman, he said he is will to fight Crawford or Spence if given the chance (give payday of course hehe) but i think for me if Taylor will move up to the 147lbs division, it's a good thing as he will give additional power to this division where only Crawford and Spence are dominating, maybe he can make this division exciting with his presence.

Of course, we wouldn't fight either of those champions, but then again, boxing politics might have prevented that in the future. There are a lot of good boxers in 147 lbs that might be a great match though for Taylor.

Back to the Teo Lopez fight, i'm now putting some money on Taylor ML @1.56, though I believed that he will KO Lopezbut  I won't underestimate the latter as he might still stand after the bell of round 12 sounded  ;D.

For sentimental favorites, I will go with Josh Taylor to shut down that big mouth of Teo and bring his ass back to the ground. Yes, I will also wanted to see him getting knockout for good or a complete domination with by Josh.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Blitzboy on June 06, 2023, 01:04:22 PM
Yeah, the divorce could be an additional stress on him, but he should be focus on this fight. This is a different environment and weight class for him. We've seen his previous fight at 140 lbs and he doesn't look good, but he is taking a big risk in fighting a very game Josh Taylor who I still consider the best of the 140 lbs and it's going to be hard for Teo and his pysche war might not work against Josh.

Just saw Josh Taylor interviewed by Max Kellerman and realized that Taylor has been in this weight class for a long time now, and that is a huge advantage for him because he is very comfortable in this division while Lopez was not doing good on his last fight in this division and for Teo's style is tailored-fit for Taylor to look good in the ring and I predict that this might end via knockout for Taylor, considering that he will shake off those ring rust early in the fight.

The match looks like a big risk for Lopez which is partly true but Bob Arum or whoever from Top Rank masterminded this fight is making this nearly at par. Taylor might be very acclimatized in this division capturing all 4 belts. But he is known to have struggled to make the weight in his last fights and probably the same reason why struggled and had an off-night against Catterall. And lastly, Taylor is inactive. I am excited to see their face-offs. And I hope Taylor will KO Lopez, make his dad cry, and end the Lopez hype.

If not for the inactivity, I guess Lopez is an easy x3 minimum. Anyways, I wonder why Taylor remained in this division when he is struggling to make the weight. Is it for money, knowing Lopez is a big money fight? Or is it because Top Rank cannot provide him a title shot at 147 where the 3 belts belong to PBC/Showtime and WBO champion Terrence Crawford just left them? But now that Crawford and Spence are facing each other for a possible 2-way fight, it is most likely that the final winner if there is no immediate trilogy will move up in weight and all the belts will become vacant. Taylor should stop forcing his body to make 140 and head on to 147 after this fight where he can request for a higher ranking right away since he became undisputed at 140.
No tea, no shade, but Taylor's playing a risky game here. Balancing those belts while battling the scale? It's like watching a streamer attempting a tricky speedrun on Twitch. But don't get it twisted, Lopez isn't a piece of cake either. And isn't it just a tad bit ironic that Taylor could be prepping for a higher weight class right when the big guns are exiting the scene? It's like finally getting the WiFi password right when the party's over. So, what's next for Taylor? Making the leap to 147? Or grinding it out at 140? Guess we'll just have to stay tuned, like refreshing your feed for the latest viral tweet, huh?


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Natalim on June 06, 2023, 01:23:35 PM
Back to the Teo Lopez fight, i'm now putting some money on Taylor ML @1.56, though I believed that he will KO Lopezbut  I won't underestimate the latter as he might still stand after the bell of round 12 sounded  ;D.

For sentimental favorites, I will go with Josh Taylor to shut down that big mouth of Teo and bring his ass back to the ground. Yes, I will also wanted to see him getting knockout for good or a complete domination with by Josh.

The 1.56 moneyline odds are quite low. I initially thought that Taylor would only be a slight favorite, but with those odds, it makes me question if Lopez is just hyping things up to gain attention, while in reality, he isn't as good. Well, Josh Taylor has already proven that he owns this division, so Lopez shouldn't make excuses if he fails in this attempt. Anyway, good luck, guys. I feel that a KO win by Taylor is more appealing, though risky at the same time.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 06, 2023, 02:25:37 PM
Back to the Teo Lopez fight, i'm now putting some money on Taylor ML @1.56, though I believed that he will KO Lopezbut  I won't underestimate the latter as he might still stand after the bell of round 12 sounded  ;D.

For sentimental favorites, I will go with Josh Taylor to shut down that big mouth of Teo and bring his ass back to the ground. Yes, I will also wanted to see him getting knockout for good or a complete domination with by Josh.

The 1.56 moneyline odds are quite low. I initially thought that Taylor would only be a slight favorite, but with those odds, it makes me question if Lopez is just hyping things up to gain attention, while in reality, he isn't as good. Well, Josh Taylor has already proven that he owns this division, so Lopez shouldn't make excuses if he fails in this attempt. Anyway, good luck, guys. I feel that a KO win by Taylor is more appealing, though risky at the same time.

Taylor by KO offers odds of 3.30, and there's a reason why it's high. Lopez has never been knocked out in his boxing career, so the likelihood of that happening is relatively low. Additionally, Taylor is not known as a knockout artist, with only 13 knockout wins out of 19 fights, resulting in a 68% knockout rate. Furthermore, his last knockout win was in 2020.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 07, 2023, 09:54:16 AM
Back to the Teo Lopez fight, i'm now putting some money on Taylor ML @1.56, though I believed that he will KO Lopezbut  I won't underestimate the latter as he might still stand after the bell of round 12 sounded  ;D.

For sentimental favorites, I will go with Josh Taylor to shut down that big mouth of Teo and bring his ass back to the ground. Yes, I will also wanted to see him getting knockout for good or a complete domination with by Josh.

The 1.56 moneyline odds are quite low. I initially thought that Taylor would only be a slight favorite, but with those odds, it makes me question if Lopez is just hyping things up to gain attention, while in reality, he isn't as good. Well, Josh Taylor has already proven that he owns this division, so Lopez shouldn't make excuses if he fails in this attempt. Anyway, good luck, guys. I feel that a KO win by Taylor is more appealing, though risky at the same time.

Taylor by KO offers odds of 3.30, and there's a reason why it's high. Lopez has never been knocked out in his boxing career, so the likelihood of that happening is relatively low. Additionally, Taylor is not known as a knockout artist, with only 13 knockout wins out of 19 fights, resulting in a 68% knockout rate. Furthermore, his last knockout win was in 2020.
But still the favorite is Josh Taylor and I'm not surprised by it. Yeah, it's true he is not a knockout artist, but he methodically destroys his opponent and dominate them in the fight.

While on the other hand, Teo Lopez, still continues to bad mouth Taylor but Josh is not backing down and have his own trash talking too. And that's why this fight is exciting and it's better to live on the hype.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: yazher on June 07, 2023, 11:05:03 AM
But still the favorite is Josh Taylor and I'm not surprised by it. Yeah, it's true he is not a knockout artist, but he methodically destroys his opponent and dominate them in the fight.

While on the other hand, Teo Lopez, still continues to bad mouth Taylor but Josh is not backing down and have his own trash talking too. And that's why this fight is exciting and it's better to live on the hype.

That's just how they market their fight nowadays without trash-talking, the fight is boring unless you are already famous for not doing so and the fans know that you gonna rebut inside the ring like Manny Pacquiao does against Broner and Thurman. But these two should do something before the fight and to fuel the excitement like this will gonna make the fans even want to see them clashing in the ring against each other so they raise their PPV sales just before their fight. We already know that if Lopez doesn't have new skills to surprise Taylor, he doesn't have any chance to beat him except by a lucky shot.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jawhead999 on June 07, 2023, 12:13:52 PM
That's just how they market their fight nowadays without trash-talking, the fight is boring unless you are already famous for not doing so and the fans know that you gonna rebut inside the ring like Manny Pacquiao does against Broner and Thurman. But these two should do something before the fight and to fuel the excitement like this will gonna make the fans even want to see them clashing in the ring against each other so they raise their PPV sales just before their fight. We already know that if Lopez doesn't have new skills to surprise Taylor, he doesn't have any chance to beat him except by a lucky shot.
Yeah Lopez looks bad after the he fought Lomachenko, he was knocked down when he fought Sandor Martin, it was a robbery because Lopez won the fight. Now he will fight Josh Taylor, the judges will be in Lopez's side because the odds show Taylor is favorite and he have 2 belts.

I think Taylor will dominating the fight, Lopez isn't have a really good technical skill.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Viscore on June 07, 2023, 12:29:29 PM
That's just how they market their fight nowadays without trash-talking, the fight is boring unless you are already famous for not doing so and the fans know that you gonna rebut inside the ring like Manny Pacquiao does against Broner and Thurman. But these two should do something before the fight and to fuel the excitement like this will gonna make the fans even want to see them clashing in the ring against each other so they raise their PPV sales just before their fight. We already know that if Lopez doesn't have new skills to surprise Taylor, he doesn't have any chance to beat him except by a lucky shot.
Yeah Lopez looks bad after the he fought Lomachenko, he was knocked down when he fought Sandor Martin, it was a robbery because Lopez won the fight. Now he will fight Josh Taylor, the judges will be in Lopez's side because the odds show Taylor is favorite and he have 2 belts.

I think Taylor will dominating the fight, Lopez isn't have a really good technical skill.

I don't doubt that Taylor will win. Maybe Lopez is quite durable, but in terms of boxing skills, I don't think he is on par with the current champion. As much as I would love to see Taylor win by knockout, as I mentioned earlier, Lopez is really durable. So, I'll just enjoy watching the fight and hope that the real winner will be announced on the judges' scorecards.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: YOSHIE on June 07, 2023, 04:22:59 PM

Maybe, some of them are boxing lovers, of course the meeting between Taylor and Lopez, is a great honor to watch and bet on, of course we all have our respective fans between the two of them.

Although some of us here have talked about the age for both boxers Taylor & Lopez, it seems that is not an obstacle to seeing Taylor back in the ring against Lopez, I'm also curious about Taylor, whether he can limit Lopez's activities in the ring to gain points, considering that Taylor has been resting in the world of boxing for so long, it's interesting to spend a little on our pocket.

If you look at it, maybe both are prime Taylor if you look at them they have been tested, tough as well as López he is nicknamed a counterpuncher, my prediction This match is a bit dubious to bet on, but the name of gambling is that there are winners and losers, I hope those who place bets don't choose the wrong boxer you want to bet on.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Japinat on June 07, 2023, 05:38:54 PM
That's just how they market their fight nowadays without trash-talking, the fight is boring unless you are already famous for not doing so and the fans know that you gonna rebut inside the ring like Manny Pacquiao does against Broner and Thurman. But these two should do something before the fight and to fuel the excitement like this will gonna make the fans even want to see them clashing in the ring against each other so they raise their PPV sales just before their fight. We already know that if Lopez doesn't have new skills to surprise Taylor, he doesn't have any chance to beat him except by a lucky shot.
Yeah Lopez looks bad after the he fought Lomachenko, he was knocked down when he fought Sandor Martin, it was a robbery because Lopez won the fight. Now he will fight Josh Taylor, the judges will be in Lopez's side because the odds show Taylor is favorite and he have 2 belts.

I think Taylor will dominating the fight, Lopez isn't have a really good technical skill.

I don't doubt that Taylor will win. Maybe Lopez is quite durable, but in terms of boxing skills, I don't think he is on par with the current champion. As much as I would love to see Taylor win by knockout, as I mentioned earlier, Lopez is really durable. So, I'll just enjoy watching the fight and hope that the real winner will be announced on the judges' scorecards.

I guess, we here both have the same sides because I just don't remember seeing that somebody here is favoring Teo Lopez to win versus the former undisputed.

On the other hand, yes, Teo Lopez is somehow durable and managed to secure some wins in his record (although some are questionable) I'll give him that but in-terms of being dominant, ring IQ and in-fight adjustments because of experience, there is no doubt that Josh Taylor have those advantages.

We might see a slow start from both boxers as they are likely to feel each other first but when the 3rd round will begin, that is when the real fight will commence.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Distinctin on June 07, 2023, 09:04:16 PM
If you look at it, maybe both are prime Taylor if you look at them they have been tested, tough as well as López he is nicknamed a counterpuncher, my prediction This match is a bit dubious to bet on, but the name of gambling is that there are winners and losers, I hope those who place bets don't choose the wrong boxer you want to bet on.
Yes, it really is. Lopez is quite smart and does have his own technique when it comes to facing a much stronger opponent but sadly, he is just up against Josh Taylor who used to be the unified champion in this division and still undefeated up to now.
So, sorry for the Lopez fans for what will I say but I just don't think that Lopez stands a chance against Taylor. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but it's just that it is not possible this time that he will still be that lucky.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 08, 2023, 01:03:31 AM
But still the favorite is Josh Taylor and I'm not surprised by it. Yeah, it's true he is not a knockout artist, but he methodically destroys his opponent and dominate them in the fight.

While on the other hand, Teo Lopez, still continues to bad mouth Taylor but Josh is not backing down and have his own trash talking too. And that's why this fight is exciting and it's better to live on the hype.

That's just how they market their fight nowadays without trash-talking, the fight is boring unless you are already famous for not doing so and the fans know that you gonna rebut inside the ring like Manny Pacquiao does against Broner and Thurman. But these two should do something before the fight and to fuel the excitement like this will gonna make the fans even want to see them clashing in the ring against each other so they raise their PPV sales just before their fight. We already know that if Lopez doesn't have new skills to surprise Taylor, he doesn't have any chance to beat him except by a lucky shot.
We should also forget one thing, the language barrier as well. It's critical if both can speak English fluently so they can smuck the hell with each other if there will be a sitdown between the two.

But let's see Broner vs Maidana, Marcos doesn't speak English that much and then Broner continues to trash talk. And then it backfired on him big time as he was humiliated. So just imagine if Maidana can talk back. Nevertheless, it's good that fighters like him and Manny can fight it back with their fist and talent and heart inside the ring.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 08, 2023, 01:14:35 AM
That's just how they market their fight nowadays without trash-talking, the fight is boring unless you are already famous for not doing so and the fans know that you gonna rebut inside the ring like Manny Pacquiao does against Broner and Thurman. But these two should do something before the fight and to fuel the excitement like this will gonna make the fans even want to see them clashing in the ring against each other so they raise their PPV sales just before their fight. We already know that if Lopez doesn't have new skills to surprise Taylor, he doesn't have any chance to beat him except by a lucky shot.
Yeah Lopez looks bad after the he fought Lomachenko, he was knocked down when he fought Sandor Martin, it was a robbery because Lopez won the fight. Now he will fight Josh Taylor, the judges will be in Lopez's side because the odds show Taylor is favorite and he have 2 belts.

I think Taylor will dominating the fight, Lopez isn't have a really good technical skill.

I don't doubt that Taylor will win. Maybe Lopez is quite durable, but in terms of boxing skills, I don't think he is on par with the current champion. As much as I would love to see Taylor win by knockout, as I mentioned earlier, Lopez is really durable. So, I'll just enjoy watching the fight and hope that the real winner will be announced on the judges' scorecards.

I'm just thinking though, yeah Lopez could be durable, but we have seen his getting knockdown surprisingly by George Kambosos. And we all know that Josh Taylor, might not be a knockout artist based on his records, perhaps it might be possible that he could dominate the fight and then just soften up Lopez full a full 11 rounds and then in the last round, as Lopez is tired and beaten, maybe Josh Taylor can slip out that perfect knockout punch.

Anyhow, that will be a great ending for this fight, Teo getting knockout for the first time in his career and then keeps opening his mouth after the fight and not admit to that. Just like when he lost to Kambosos who his father thinks that they still win the fight despite their initial knockout and George schooling Teo.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on June 08, 2023, 03:45:41 AM


I'm just thinking though, yeah Lopez could be durable, but we have seen his getting knockdown surprisingly by George Kambosos. And we all know that Josh Taylor, might not be a knockout artist based on his records, perhaps it might be possible that he could dominate the fight and then just soften up Lopez full a full 11 rounds and then in the last round, as Lopez is tired and beaten, maybe Josh Taylor can slip out that perfect knockout punch.

Anyhow, that will be a great ending for this fight, Teo getting knockout for the first time in his career and then keeps opening his mouth after the fight and not admit to that. Just like when he lost to Kambosos who his father thinks that they still win the fight despite their initial knockout and George schooling Teo.
Lopez needs this fight it's a confirmation fight for Lopez that what happened against Kambosos is a big flop on their side and they have corrected this with this fight.

If Lopez losses here it's going to be a big embarrassment, he is a candidate to be a big name in boxing and many consider him to be the next big name before the Kambosos fight, he has to prove something here a tall order but this is the fight will make or break him.

I just don't like that he retains his father by his side there are many clamors to let go of him and get a better trainer that can guide him inside and outside the ring.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 08, 2023, 09:32:59 AM
Anyhow, that will be a great ending for this fight, Teo getting knockout for the first time in his career and then keeps opening his mouth after the fight and not admit to that. Just like when he lost to Kambosos who his father thinks that they still win the fight despite their initial knockout and George schooling Teo.

This is also the scenario that i would like to happen to the arrogant father and son tandem. Getting knockout is not impossible for Josh Taylor to do as Lopez could walk into his knockout punch as we have seen Lopez walking through the counter of Kambosos that did damage to him.

The other scenario for this fight that i see is that Lopez will not be aggressive as he is and might change his strategy, to be a counter puncher as being aggressive will make the night short for him, so Taylor via decision might be a very good bet for me.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Botnake on June 08, 2023, 11:54:13 AM
Anyhow, that will be a great ending for this fight, Teo getting knockout for the first time in his career and then keeps opening his mouth after the fight and not admit to that. Just like when he lost to Kambosos who his father thinks that they still win the fight despite their initial knockout and George schooling Teo.

This is also the scenario that i would like to happen to the arrogant father and son tandem. Getting knockout is not impossible for Josh Taylor to do as Lopez could walk into his knockout punch as we have seen Lopez walking through the counter of Kambosos that did damage to him.

The other scenario for this fight that i see is that Lopez will not be aggressive as he is and might change his strategy, to be a counter puncher as being aggressive will make the night short for him, so Taylor via decision might be a very good bet for me.

I'm with you on your bet. It's likely that Taylor will win, but Lopez will put up a good fight and survive. Taylor, being the champion, knows how to take care of himself in the fight. He won't let his emotions make him act foolishly. Instead, he will stick to the game plan and a knockout will come if Lopez becomes overly aggressive and careless simultaneously.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 08, 2023, 12:21:15 PM
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Damn, Josh Taylor's last 6 opponents were all undefeated with a combined record of 133-0-101 KOs. This guy is not wasting all his years while his body is still in its prime. It's sad though that he became inactive due to injury. Taylor could have picked an easy tune-up fight just like what Catterall and Canelo did.

Meanwhile, Teofimo's comment about killing Josh Taylor is foul but actually corny knowing he actually lost his last fight if not for the corrupt judges. I cannot wait for their face-offs. I guess they are expected to be in their own receptions by tomorrow and a press conference is expected to happen later before the weigh-in. Josh Taylor should try something to bully Teofimo and lessen his confidence a bit before fight night.



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Vaculin on June 08, 2023, 06:08:13 PM
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Damn, Josh Taylor's last 6 opponents were all undefeated with a combined record of 133-0-101 KOs. This guy is not wasting all his years while his body is still in its prime. It's sad though that he became inactive due to injury. Taylor could have picked an easy tune-up fight just like what Catterall and Canelo did.

Meanwhile, Teofimo's comment about killing Josh Taylor is foul but actually corny knowing he actually lost his last fight if not for the corrupt judges. I cannot wait for their face-offs. I guess they are expected to be in their own receptions by tomorrow and a press conference is expected to happen later before the weigh-in. Josh Taylor should try something to bully Teofimo and lessen his confidence a bit before fight night.



Yes, that is the thing about Teofimo Lopez because the guy is trying to stay relevant even after what happened on his fight recently. But we cannot blame because that is his way and in-fact, Josh liked it because aside from talking gibberish, he is also marketing the fight.  Although he made himself a laughingstock as people surely know the real score, it's just too clear he is just way out of Josh's league. Not this time, not ever.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on June 08, 2023, 06:19:34 PM
Damn, Josh Taylor's last 6 opponents were all undefeated with a combined record of 133-0-101 KOs. This guy is not wasting all his years while his body is still in its prime. It's sad though that he became inactive due to injury. Taylor could have picked an easy tune-up fight just like what Catterall and Canelo did.

Yeah, he took the best boxers that this weight class can offer and took all their 0. Prograis, Carlor Ramirez, Ivan Baranchyk and even Viktor Postol (who lost to the previous unified champ in Bud Crawford).

Meanwhile, Teofimo's comment about killing Josh Taylor is foul but actually corny knowing he actually lost his last fight if not for the corrupt judges. I cannot wait for their face-offs. I guess they are expected to be in their own receptions by tomorrow and a press conference is expected to happen later before the weigh-in. Josh Taylor should try something to bully Teofimo and lessen his confidence a bit before fight night.

Yes, probably just to sell the fights because it seems there's no hype here. I mean it's understandable, after Garcia vs Davis and then Loma vs Haney, it's hard to follow on that footsteps unless they really give a fans a good show. And only they can sell the pre-fight if they are going to trash talk and that's what Lopez is good at.

Final press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRUl_dPlll8

The security though, didn't allow for this two to have the face-off, maybe there will be some pushing, hehehe. We will still see them tomorrow for the final weigh-in so it's another must watch for fight fans.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Japinat on June 08, 2023, 06:38:47 PM
Meanwhile, Teofimo's comment about killing Josh Taylor is foul but actually corny knowing he actually lost his last fight if not for the corrupt judges. I cannot wait for their face-offs. I guess they are expected to be in their own receptions by tomorrow and a press conference is expected to happen later before the weigh-in. Josh Taylor should try something to bully Teofimo and lessen his confidence a bit before fight night.

Yes, probably just to sell the fights because it seems there's no hype here. I mean it's understandable, after Garcia vs Davis and then Loma vs Haney, it's hard to follow on that footsteps unless they really give a fans a good show. And only they can sell the pre-fight if they are going to trash talk and that's what Lopez is good at.

Final press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRUl_dPlll8

The security though, didn't allow for this two to have the face-off, maybe there will be some pushing, hehehe. We will still see them tomorrow for the final weigh-in so it's another must watch for fight fans.

The final weigh-in will be their last chance to actually sell the fight because in the past few weeks, their names just cannot keep up with the big names that has making a noise in the industry and even now that it's already their time, we now have the Spence vs Crawford fight which has been in the headlines for quite some time now. If only the face-off were approved, it could've been a good marketing but sadly, they did not allow it. So, tomorrow will be their very last chance.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 09, 2023, 01:45:46 AM
Meanwhile, Teofimo's comment about killing Josh Taylor is foul but actually corny knowing he actually lost his last fight if not for the corrupt judges. I cannot wait for their face-offs. I guess they are expected to be in their own receptions by tomorrow and a press conference is expected to happen later before the weigh-in. Josh Taylor should try something to bully Teofimo and lessen his confidence a bit before fight night.

Yes, probably just to sell the fights because it seems there's no hype here. I mean it's understandable, after Garcia vs Davis and then Loma vs Haney, it's hard to follow on that footsteps unless they really give a fans a good show. And only they can sell the pre-fight if they are going to trash talk and that's what Lopez is good at.

Final press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRUl_dPlll8

The security though, didn't allow for this two to have the face-off, maybe there will be some pushing, hehehe. We will still see them tomorrow for the final weigh-in so it's another must watch for fight fans.

The final weigh-in will be their last chance to actually sell the fight because in the past few weeks, their names just cannot keep up with the big names that has making a noise in the industry and even now that it's already their time, we now have the Spence vs Crawford fight which has been in the headlines for quite some time now. If only the face-off were approved, it could've been a good marketing but sadly, they did not allow it. So, tomorrow will be their very last chance.

Yes, but there is a mic up version and you can hear Josh Taylor saying that he is going to f**k up Teo Lopez. So it might have have the hype or the exposure, but definitely this is really something for us boxing fans.

Again, we might have to hate Teo Lopez and his father, the antics and everything. So I think this fight is going to sell, but I doubt that it can be close to like 200k PPV in the US. But I guess those numbers might be good for this 2 boxers, specially that Teo Lopez is fighting a non-American. And maybe the fans of Taylor is going to watch it from UK.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Botnake on June 09, 2023, 02:46:44 AM

Again, we might have to hate Teo Lopez and his father, the antics and everything. So I think this fight is going to sell, but I doubt that it can be close to like 200k PPV in the US. But I guess those numbers might be good for this 2 boxers, specially that Teo Lopez is fighting a non-American. And maybe the fans of Taylor is going to watch it from UK.

It's not a big fight actually, unlike the Garcia vs. Davis bout, which generated significant pay-per-view numbers. However, I'm confident that they will still be profitable after this fight. The trash-talking aspect plays a significant role in selling the fight, so they just need to continue that and deliver an entertaining performance on fight night.

The more Lopez gain a lot of haters, the more this fight will generate good PPV numbers.

That's the KEY!


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: borovichok on June 09, 2023, 03:28:53 AM
It's not a big fight actually, unlike the Garcia vs. Davis bout, which generated significant pay-per-view numbers. However, I'm confident that they will still be profitable after this fight. The trash-talking aspect plays a significant role in selling the fight, so they just need to continue that and deliver an entertaining performance on fight night.

The more Lopez gain a lot of haters, the more this fight will generate good PPV numbers.

That's the KEY!
Josh Taylor will face Teofimo Lopez in the ring; let's hope the most important fighter wins and there are no glitches in the match. Teo Lopez and his father have both been criticized, and their fans have created hatred for them, so there is an additional 80% probability for the pay-per-view to increase, as they are always eager to see their demise, so they will turn out in huge numbers to see the outcome of the entire fight. Of course, everyone would prefer to see a less competitive battle, but by the looks of things, tickets are selling and a lot of people are eager in seeing how everything turns out live.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Botnake on June 09, 2023, 03:36:34 AM
It's not a big fight actually, unlike the Garcia vs. Davis bout, which generated significant pay-per-view numbers. However, I'm confident that they will still be profitable after this fight. The trash-talking aspect plays a significant role in selling the fight, so they just need to continue that and deliver an entertaining performance on fight night.

The more Lopez gain a lot of haters, the more this fight will generate good PPV numbers.

That's the KEY!
Josh Taylor will face Teofimo Lopez in the ring; let's hope the most important fighter wins and there are no glitches in the match. Teo Lopez and his father have both been criticized, and their fans have created hatred for them, so there is an additional 80% probability for the pay-per-view to increase, as they are always eager to see their demise, so they will turn out in huge numbers to see the outcome of the entire fight. Of course, everyone would prefer to see a less competitive battle, but by the looks of things,...

Well, let's wait for the outcome of the fight to determine the numbers. The ticket sales are their business, so regardless of how much they'll make from PPV and gate entrance, that's on them. My only concern as a fan is the satisfaction of this fight, which I believe I will have since both fighters aren't afraid to go toe to toe, especially Lopez, who has been very aggressive in most of his fights.

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tickets are selling and a lot of people are eager in seeing how everything turns out live.
I hope so too because that would inspire promoters to provide us with more big fights like this.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 09, 2023, 03:37:05 AM
Again, we might have to hate Teo Lopez and his father, the antics and everything. So I think this fight is going to sell, but I doubt that it can be close to like 200k PPV in the US. But I guess those numbers might be good for this 2 boxers, specially that Teo Lopez is fighting a non-American. And maybe the fans of Taylor is going to watch it from UK.

I forgot the link on the article that popped up on my social media account but it said that this fight can be watch live and for free on Top Rank's facebook account and youtube channel so with that i don't think that this Josh Taylor's defense of his belt will sell huge number on PPV or is this will be sold on PPV with Top Rank broadcasting this for free?


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Reatim on June 09, 2023, 03:42:06 AM
 

Professional win-loss-KO/TKO records
Josh Taylor: 19-0-13 KOs
Teofimo Lopez: 18-1-13 KOs

Source: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23399782.teofimo-lopez-confirms-date-proposed-josh-taylor-bout/
Their professional record is almost Identical , though Taylor is undefeated but He is only Up by 1 win against Lopez .

maybe Taylor is the favorite in here but I love supporting the underdog , so i will be looking for Lopez winning this fight.
Again, we might have to hate Teo Lopez and his father, the antics and everything. So I think this fight is going to sell, but I doubt that it can be close to like 200k PPV in the US. But I guess those numbers might be good for this 2 boxers, specially that Teo Lopez is fighting a non-American. And maybe the fans of Taylor is going to watch it from UK.

I forgot the link on the article that popped up on my social media account but it said that this fight can be watch live and for free on Top Rank's facebook account and youtube channel so with that i don't think that this Josh Taylor's defense of his belt will sell huge number on PPV or is this will be sold on PPV with Top Rank broadcasting this for free?
wondering what drives Top rank's bringing this fight free to watch .


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 09, 2023, 03:50:36 PM
Again, we might have to hate Teo Lopez and his father, the antics and everything. So I think this fight is going to sell, but I doubt that it can be close to like 200k PPV in the US. But I guess those numbers might be good for this 2 boxers, specially that Teo Lopez is fighting a non-American. And maybe the fans of Taylor is going to watch it from UK.

I forgot the link on the article that popped up on my social media account but it said that this fight can be watch live and for free on Top Rank's facebook account and youtube channel so with that i don't think that this Josh Taylor's defense of his belt will sell huge number on PPV or is this will be sold on PPV with Top Rank broadcasting this for free?

Oh is that so? maybe it is going to be on ESPN for sure as this is Top Rank and maybe that is why it is going to be free. Not sure how Top Rank is going to make money for this, but for sure the boxers would received their paycheck already from Top Rank himself and ESPN.

In any case, if it is for free then watch this fight whenever we can. Let's see if Teo Lopez can back up his trash talking, or Josh Taylor remains to be the top dog in this division and continue with the defense of his remaining belts at 140 lbs.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kasabus on June 09, 2023, 05:08:08 PM
Again, we might have to hate Teo Lopez and his father, the antics and everything. So I think this fight is going to sell, but I doubt that it can be close to like 200k PPV in the US. But I guess those numbers might be good for this 2 boxers, specially that Teo Lopez is fighting a non-American. And maybe the fans of Taylor is going to watch it from UK.

I forgot the link on the article that popped up on my social media account but it said that this fight can be watch live and for free on Top Rank's facebook account and youtube channel so with that i don't think that this Josh Taylor's defense of his belt will sell huge number on PPV or is this will be sold on PPV with Top Rank broadcasting this for free?

Oh is that so? maybe it is going to be on ESPN for sure as this is Top Rank and maybe that is why it is going to be free. Not sure how Top Rank is going to make money for this, but for sure the boxers would received their paycheck already from Top Rank himself and ESPN.

In any case, if it is for free then watch this fight whenever we can. Let's see if Teo Lopez can back up his trash talking, or Josh Taylor remains to be the top dog in this division and continue with the defense of his remaining belts at 140 lbs.

Well, as long that it is guaranteed then they can always claim it ahead of time just like what most boxers do. But anyway, that question also struck me because if they are showing this fight live through their Facebook account and YouTube channel, then how would they make some money out of this fight because for sure their PPV buys will be much lesser if that is really the case.

Anyway, found this article while I was browsing in google about their fight: Teofimo Lopez Sr Worried About Teo Being Robbed Against Josh Taylor (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/06/teofimo-lopez-sr-worried-about-teo-being-robbed-against-josh-taylor/)


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on June 09, 2023, 11:09:36 PM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

There's also a good undercard in Xander Zayas vs Ronald Cruz. And Robson Conceicao vs Nicolas Polanco.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Viscore on June 10, 2023, 02:04:29 AM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

There's also a good undercard in Xander Zayas vs Ronald Cruz. And Robson Conceicao vs Nicolas Polanco.

I'm glad that both have met the weight requirement, so there's no hindrance to this fight not pushing through. I'm excited for the fight tomorrow, not only because I'm excited to win, but also to see how Josh Taylor will punish Teo Lopez in the ring. This trash talker's mouth will be shut down by the real champion.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 10, 2023, 03:43:14 AM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

Teo Sr is just so arrogant by showing that finger, he's so fired up as if he is the one that's going to fight. Teo Jr has not managed to say a statement in the final face-off, it's only Josh Taylor who did the talking, might it be that Teo Jr was afraid of the moment hehe, we will see tomorrow.

For me, if Lopez will be aggressive in the early rounds that might be not good strategy as we all know that Taylor could do damage if the former would walk to his punch but neither be that Lopez will just counter what Taylor throws because that is not his style so for me either be aggressive or be a counter puncher, Lopez will struggle and lose this fight unless he could land a haymaker.

Again, this fight will be aired live and free on Top Rank's youtube channel, that's what they said.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 10, 2023, 05:42:55 AM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

Teo Sr is just so arrogant by showing that finger, he's so fired up as if he is the one that's going to fight. Teo Jr has not managed to say a statement in the final face-off, it's only Josh Taylor who did the talking, might it be that Teo Jr was afraid of the moment hehe, we will see tomorrow.

For me, if Lopez will be aggressive in the early rounds that might be not good strategy as we all know that Taylor could do damage if the former would walk to his punch but neither be that Lopez will just counter what Taylor throws because that is not his style so for me either be aggressive or be a counter puncher, Lopez will struggle and lose this fight unless he could land a haymaker.

Again, this fight will be aired live and free on Top Rank's youtube channel, that's what they said.

There is a video that show that fans are taunting the Lopez's and chanting, "You fat bastard" referring to Teo Lopez. He has to take his underwear though to make the official weight.

And those who are shouting are obviously fans of Josh Taylor, as they have that accent. Nevertheless, I do agree that Sr shouldn't do that in front of the camera and giving the middle finger. They are really so disrespectful and everyone is excited to see Josh Taylor punish Teo Lopez in this fight. It might be better if we can see him dominating the whole 12 rounds and battered Lopez.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 10, 2023, 06:43:00 AM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

Teo Sr is just so arrogant by showing that finger, he's so fired up as if he is the one that's going to fight. Teo Jr has not managed to say a statement in the final face-off, it's only Josh Taylor who did the talking, might it be that Teo Jr was afraid of the moment hehe, we will see tomorrow.

For me, if Lopez will be aggressive in the early rounds that might be not good strategy as we all know that Taylor could do damage if the former would walk to his punch but neither be that Lopez will just counter what Taylor throws because that is not his style so for me either be aggressive or be a counter puncher, Lopez will struggle and lose this fight unless he could land a haymaker.

Again, this fight will be aired live and free on Top Rank's youtube channel, that's what they said.

There is a video that show that fans are taunting the Lopez's and chanting, "You fat bastard" referring to Teo Lopez. He has to take his underwear though to make the official weight.

And those who are shouting are obviously fans of Josh Taylor, as they have that accent. Nevertheless, I do agree that Sr shouldn't do that in front of the camera and giving the middle finger. They are really so disrespectful and everyone is excited to see Josh Taylor punish Teo Lopez in this fight. It might be better if we can see him dominating the whole 12 rounds and battered Lopez.

Although trash-talking adds hype to the fight, it is important to remember that there are limitations to it. Besides, boxing is primarily entertainment, so it should not be taken personally. Everything the boxer and their camp do should be related to the fight. Tomorrow's fight between these two boxers is expected to be significant. I have speculated from the very beginning that both fighters will be aggressive. Hopefully, as the fight concludes, the trash-talking will also come to an end.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 10, 2023, 11:27:19 AM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

There's also a good undercard in Xander Zayas vs Ronald Cruz. And Robson Conceicao vs Nicolas Polanco.

I'm glad that both have met the weight requirement, so there's no hindrance to this fight not pushing through. I'm excited for the fight tomorrow, not only because I'm excited to win, but also to see how Josh Taylor will punish Teo Lopez in the ring. This trash talker's mouth will be shut down by the real champion.

Yeah, they are both locked and loaded and ready to rumble tomorrow. But I am somehow disappointed as to why Top Rank or was it New York's boxing commission that did not allow both of them to have a press conference face-off and weigh-in face-off. I felt like Josh Taylor benefits from the face-offs. People are more accustomed to Teofimo Lopez's trash talks but Josh is actually not a humble dude. It's probably the reason why Teofimo was only good at talking but when the time they are near each other Teofimo is silent and it is Josh that is talking, finger-pointing, and wanted to get near to Lopez. It just so happens that Lopez is facing another bully like him but this Scottish bully is more proven and is the former undisputed champion. Lopez was fucking behaved like a good boy in the weigh-in. His useless dad was the one acting tough but he is not the one fighting though. It would've been a hell of a promotion if both Taylor and Lopez made some face-offs before fight night.

By the way, boxing fans from the Philippines and Germany are lucky to have free access to this big fight thru Youtube and Facebook. People from other countries need to pay or at least have subscriptions to ESPN (USA), Sky Sports (UK), and other networks.

And because Josh Taylor and Teofimo Lopez were not allowed to do a close face-to-face, DAZN's weigh-in was probably more exciting. :D
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Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 10, 2023, 11:37:11 AM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

Teo Sr is just so arrogant by showing that finger, he's so fired up as if he is the one that's going to fight. Teo Jr has not managed to say a statement in the final face-off, it's only Josh Taylor who did the talking, might it be that Teo Jr was afraid of the moment hehe, we will see tomorrow.

For me, if Lopez will be aggressive in the early rounds that might be not good strategy as we all know that Taylor could do damage if the former would walk to his punch but neither be that Lopez will just counter what Taylor throws because that is not his style so for me either be aggressive or be a counter puncher, Lopez will struggle and lose this fight unless he could land a haymaker.

Again, this fight will be aired live and free on Top Rank's youtube channel, that's what they said.

There is a video that show that fans are taunting the Lopez's and chanting, "You fat bastard" referring to Teo Lopez. He has to take his underwear though to make the official weight.

And those who are shouting are obviously fans of Josh Taylor, as they have that accent. Nevertheless, I do agree that Sr shouldn't do that in front of the camera and giving the middle finger. They are really so disrespectful and everyone is excited to see Josh Taylor punish Teo Lopez in this fight. It might be better if we can see him dominating the whole 12 rounds and battered Lopez.

Although trash-talking adds hype to the fight, it is important to remember that there are limitations to it. Besides, boxing is primarily entertainment, so it should not be taken personally. Everything the boxer and their camp do should be related to the fight. Tomorrow's fight between these two boxers is expected to be significant. I have speculated from the very beginning that both fighters will be aggressive. Hopefully, as the fight concludes, the trash-talking will also come to an end.

For sure, and I think boxers knows that, however, they are do are humans and sometimes it really gets into their skin if the attack is personal. And it seems Josh take it personally though and he is not backing down and he said in the weigh in that the trash talking ends already, and it's time for some action in the ring.

And I do agree that both are lock and loaded and Josh brought his fans around him. So gonna be a huge crowd, we all know how Irish or Scottish are die hard fans so they will bring everything as well as not not be outnumbers by Teo backers.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 10, 2023, 01:42:17 PM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

There's also a good undercard in Xander Zayas vs Ronald Cruz. And Robson Conceicao vs Nicolas Polanco.

I'm glad that both have met the weight requirement, so there's no hindrance to this fight not pushing through. I'm excited for the fight tomorrow, not only because I'm excited to win, but also to see how Josh Taylor will punish Teo Lopez in the ring. This trash talker's mouth will be shut down by the real champion.

Yeah, they are both locked and loaded and ready to rumble tomorrow. But I am somehow disappointed as to why Top Rank or was it New York's boxing commission that did not allow both of them to have a press conference face-off and weigh-in face-off. I felt like Josh Taylor benefits from the face-offs. People are more accustomed to Teofimo Lopez's trash talks but Josh is actually not a humble dude. It's probably the reason why Teofimo was only good at talking but when the time they are near each other Teofimo is silent and it is Josh that is talking, finger-pointing, and wanted to get near to Lopez. It just so happens that Lopez is facing another bully like him but this Scottish bully is more proven and is the former undisputed champion. Lopez was fucking behaved like a good boy in the weigh-in. His useless dad was the one acting tough but he is not the one fighting though. It would've been a hell of a promotion if both Taylor and Lopez made some face-offs before fight night.

I reckon it was Top Rank who requested the security in the beginning, maybe they are expected something worst than just a shoving and pushing, just like in the Loma vs Haney fight.

So they asked for a New York Policeman to be present in the face-off and weigh-in and then more security personnel in between to separate the two. So there is the mind games, all the trash talking, now it's fight time. So we will see if Lopez can live up to his hype and who is going to go to the canvass. Sr though, giving the middle finger to the fans of Josh. Taylor, LOL. Unfortunately, it was live and the camera caught it.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Maslate on June 10, 2023, 04:17:49 PM
Official weigh-in for both fighters,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnB69bb8BV0

Taylor - 139.8 lbs
Lopez - 140 lbs

And now here's where the trash talking ends, they have time to rehydrate and be ready for the big fight in 24 hours. Josh Taylor is still the favorite so I'm not surprised if he actually win this fight. It might be close if a different version of Lopez shows in this fight. But if he got the wrong strategy and just want to counter then Josh might take it early and then dominate the fight in full 12 rounds.

There's also a good undercard in Xander Zayas vs Ronald Cruz. And Robson Conceicao vs Nicolas Polanco.

I'm glad that both have met the weight requirement, so there's no hindrance to this fight not pushing through. I'm excited for the fight tomorrow, not only because I'm excited to win, but also to see how Josh Taylor will punish Teo Lopez in the ring. This trash talker's mouth will be shut down by the real champion.

Yeah, they are both locked and loaded and ready to rumble tomorrow. But I am somehow disappointed as to why Top Rank or was it New York's boxing commission that did not allow both of them to have a press conference face-off and weigh-in face-off. I felt like Josh Taylor benefits from the face-offs. People are more accustomed to Teofimo Lopez's trash talks but Josh is actually not a humble dude. It's probably the reason why Teofimo was only good at talking but when the time they are near each other Teofimo is silent and it is Josh that is talking, finger-pointing, and wanted to get near to Lopez. It just so happens that Lopez is facing another bully like him but this Scottish bully is more proven and is the former undisputed champion. Lopez was fucking behaved like a good boy in the weigh-in. His useless dad was the one acting tough but he is not the one fighting though. It would've been a hell of a promotion if both Taylor and Lopez made some face-offs before fight night.

I reckon it was Top Rank who requested the security in the beginning, maybe they are expected something worst than just a shoving and pushing, just like in the Loma vs Haney fight.

So they asked for a New York Policeman to be present in the face-off and weigh-in and then more security personnel in between to separate the two. So there is the mind games, all the trash talking, now it's fight time. So we will see if Lopez can live up to his hype and who is going to go to the canvass. Sr though, giving the middle finger to the fans of Josh. Taylor, LOL. Unfortunately, it was live and the camera caught it.

That might be the case and the reason why the weigh-in was just literally only weigh-in with no face off in the last part, I guess that additional security really helped to control what might happen because we never know, Teofimo or Josh might be so hype and will start some pushing that will make the stage crazy while there are a million of people around the globe watching the weigh-in live.

I'm just curious why Teofimo didn't had some crazy words and just decided to stare Josh until the end while letting the latter do all the talk in-front of him.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: lionheart78 on June 10, 2023, 08:27:00 PM
For the last time, I looked at Josh Taylor's fight highlights before the two meet in the ring today.  It looks like Teofimo's lower body resistance to blows will be tested since Josh Taylor loves throwing punches to the side of the body as part of his combination.  These punches may hinder Teofimo towards the whole fight and if his body endurance isn't that high, may affect how he will face Taylor.

Since Lopez's plan is to box[1] Taylor all throughout the fight, the body punches by Taylor may take a toll on Lopez since it is draining to receive body punches especially if the fight goes the distance. I believe it is really an interesting fight since Teofimo Lopez will not slug it out in order to not give any advantage to Taylor.




[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/06/teofimo-lopezs-dad-leaks-game-plan-for-taylor-were-going-to-box-him/


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 11, 2023, 01:19:52 AM
For the last time, I looked at Josh Taylor's fight highlights before the two meet in the ring today.  It looks like Teofimo's lower body resistance to blows will be tested since Josh Taylor loves throwing punches to the side of the body as part of his combination.  These punches may hinder Teofimo towards the whole fight and if his body endurance isn't that high, may affect how he will face Taylor.

Since Lopez's plan is to box[1] Taylor all throughout the fight, the body punches by Taylor may take a toll on Lopez since it is draining to receive body punches especially if the fight goes the distance. I believe it is really an interesting fight since Teofimo Lopez will not slug it out in order to not give any advantage to Taylor.




[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/06/teofimo-lopezs-dad-leaks-game-plan-for-taylor-were-going-to-box-him/

Yeah, very interesting that Teo Sr said that they want to box in this fight where we all know that Lopez is a puncher and he is not a technical fighter. While Josh Taylor is more of a technical boxer in my opinion and he loves to counter with his left and throw body shots, in short he was a total package that's why he was able to get all the 4 belts and unified it against great an talented 140 lbs fighter.

This might be just a diversification tactic by Lopez Sr though, just to throw Taylor and his camp, part of the psyche war. But let's see, majority thinks that Taylor will win though, so let's wait how he is going to accomplished it. But I love to see Teo going down if possible.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 11, 2023, 05:23:52 AM
Am I the only one watching the fight live?  ;D

Another upset in boxing today as Teo Lopez defeated Josh Taylor via unanimous decision with the score of (2)115-113 and 117-111.

Per compubox, Lopez landed way more power punches than Taylor via that counter-punching strategy which I found it weird because that's not the style of Lopez that I knew of, I knew him as an aggressive fighter.

Congrats to all who bet for Lopez may it be ML or via decision as both odds were juicy.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: aioc on June 11, 2023, 06:12:17 AM
Am I the only one watching the fight live?  ;D

Another upset in boxing today as Teo Lopez defeated Josh Taylor via unanimous decision with the score of (2)115-113 and 117-111.

Per compubox, Lopez landed way more power punches than Taylor via that counter-punching strategy which I found it weird because that's not the style of Lopez that I knew of, I knew him as an aggressive fighter.

Congrats to all who bet for Lopez may it be ML or via decision as both odds were juicy.

I am too wow, this is Lopez at its best it's all Lopez all the way, the speed made a big difference here, and the long layoff by Josh Taylor made a bad impact on the way he fights his timing is off, I don't agree with 115 - 113 by two of the judges it should have been  117 - 111 one of the judges is correct for me.

I consider this a huge upset, Lopez has proven that he still has it and he can really take over even one of the greatest.

This is the result of the poll here not every one of us believes he can dominate Taylor but he did it.

 Teofimo Lopez Decision   - 4 (16.7%)


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 11, 2023, 06:57:50 AM
Despite all his personal problems, Teofimo managed to prevail in this fight. It was a very strong performance. I was disappointed in Taylor because it did not seem like he gave his best effort.

This was a great comeback for Teo after how bad he looked in his last fight. If he had lost many would question whether he should retire but now he has the possibility of massive paydays in his future.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 11, 2023, 09:11:30 AM
Am I the only one watching the fight live?  ;D

Another upset in boxing today as Teo Lopez defeated Josh Taylor via unanimous decision with the score of (2)115-113 and 117-111.

Per compubox, Lopez landed way more power punches than Taylor via that counter-punching strategy which I found it weird because that's not the style of Lopez that I knew of, I knew him as an aggressive fighter.

Congrats to all who bet for Lopez may it be ML or via decision as both odds were juicy.

Yes, I think we should give respect to Lopez though, as much as we hated this guy and even the vote shows almost everyone is against him, he won the fight clearly. He managed to dominate the fight as what his father said, that it will be a boxing clinic and that's what the younger Lopez did.

For Josh, he looks bad in this fight, so I think the Jack Catterall might be the first sign that he might have difficulty already in making weight at 140 lbs. But we will be too small at 147 lbs either. So it's hard for him at this point of his career. And yes, for those who bet on Lopez via ML bet, congrats, it was sure a big win for his fans as he was the underdog.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 11, 2023, 09:22:39 AM
Despite all his personal problems, Teofimo managed to prevail in this fight. It was a very strong performance. I was disappointed in Taylor because it did not seem like he gave his best effort.

I think Josh has lost his touch already with all the wars in 140 lbs. He has steam rolled a lot of great and elite fighters before. But after that, it seems that in the last 2 fights, he might be showing signs of him not on his prime already.

This was a great comeback for Teo after how bad he looked in his last fight. If he had lost many would question whether he should retire but now he has the possibility of massive paydays in his future.

Right, it was a different Lopez that shows here, maybe he was really comfortable fighting a southpaw like Teo. So now he has done it, becoming the WBO boxing champion and he has leverage now. I want him to fight Prograis next for another belt. Although Prograis didn't sign with Top Rank as he is now with Match Room. Hopefully Arum and Eddie Hearn can set it up next.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on June 11, 2023, 09:25:36 AM
Despite all his personal problems, Teofimo managed to prevail in this fight. It was a very strong performance. I was disappointed in Taylor because it did not seem like he gave his best effort.

This was a great comeback for Teo after how bad he looked in his last fight. If he had lost many would question whether he should retire but now he has the possibility of massive paydays in his future.

For the record, Lopez has beaten two former undisputed and lineal champions and these are Lomachenko and Taylor, Lopez shows his true form it's the best Lopez I've seen after the Loma fight.

Now things are interesting now there are talks of a Ryan Garcia fight but the way Lopez boxes and if he could maintain this he will rule the light welterweight for many years

I don't think there should be a rematch but if there is a clause Taylor can activate that but it's not going to do him good, he needs two more fights the long layoff causes him this fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jating on June 11, 2023, 10:01:42 AM
Despite all his personal problems, Teofimo managed to prevail in this fight. It was a very strong performance. I was disappointed in Taylor because it did not seem like he gave his best effort.

This was a great comeback for Teo after how bad he looked in his last fight. If he had lost many would question whether he should retire but now he has the possibility of massive paydays in his future.

For the record, Lopez has beaten two former undisputed and lineal champions and these are Lomachenko and Taylor, Lopez shows his true form it's the best Lopez I've seen after the Loma fight.

Now things are interesting now there are talks of a Ryan Garcia fight but the way Lopez boxes and if he could maintain this he will rule the light welterweight for many years

I don't think there should be a rematch but if there is a clause Taylor can activate that but it's not going to do him good, he needs two more fights the long layoff causes him this fight.

Very interesting version of Lopez that we have seen here, and it seems that he up his game whenever he will face a great champion, like Loma (although questionable that time because of Loma's shoulder), and Taylor tonight.

Taylor looks very amateurish in this fight though, it could be weight issues as there are members here who thought that he has problems with 140 lbs based on his last fight against Jack Catterall and for sure Jack might what to have a crack on Teo Lopez too in the future. 140 lbs seems to be huge with this big upset win by Teo and everyone will be jockeying for position to fight Lopez next.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on June 11, 2023, 01:17:23 PM
Good fight for Lopez and he surely did what he is supposed to do. And it just shows that style makes fight. Kambosos beat him soundly, even have him in the canvass, but Kambosos lost to Haney twice. Josh Taylor used to dominate this weight class with his counter but he is not effective against Lopez as he is beat to the punch. And even majority of us wrote-off Lopez, but he just shows tonight that he still has it.

Now Lopez is a 2 division champ, and it open a lot of opportunity for him. Let's see if Haney is going to move up in 140 lbs soonest and go and fight Lopez. Again, it's a clash of style and with that, it's going to be another great fight. Let Lopez though enjoy his win and the start of his reign as WBO champion.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 11, 2023, 02:39:12 PM
Good fight for Lopez and he surely did what he is supposed to do. And it just shows that style makes fight. Kambosos beat him soundly, even have him in the canvass, but Kambosos lost to Haney twice. Josh Taylor used to dominate this weight class with his counter but he is not effective against Lopez as he is beat to the punch. And even majority of us wrote-off Lopez, but he just shows tonight that he still has it.
I was kind of disappointed when the referee did not allow Josh to fight in clinches where he is superior. When the referee as early as round 1 warned Josh I already thought that he is in for a very difficult and uncomfortable night and that my bet will be lost too. :D So I am not that sold out on Teofimo's win. The ref should've let Josh do his thing and if Teofimo hates the pace of the fight then he can clinch hard until Josh can't throw a punch and that is the time the ref will break them. The ref was there to protect Teofimo and it also saved the American a lot of his energy because he no longer spend it outmuscling and clinching in order to neutralize Josh's inside fighting. 

Now Lopez is a 2 division champ, and it open a lot of opportunity for him. Let's see if Haney is going to move up in 140 lbs soonest and go and fight Lopez. Again, it's a clash of style and with that, it's going to be another great fight. Let Lopez though enjoy his win and the start of his reign as WBO champion.
Officially, Lopez is not only a 2 division champion but a 2-division lineal champion and that says a lot to his credit. Haney is most likely to move up. Haney was mad at Bob Arum and mentioned a match with WBC champion Regis Prograis of Matchroom. But after Lopez's victory, there are talks already about Haney being interested again to re-sign with Top Rank.

I think Top Rank just has a lot to offer when it comes to 135 and 140. Haney should he choose to defend his undisputed belts has the Loma rematch, Shakur, and even Navarette if the Mexican beats Valdez this August. At 140, there's Lopez, Ramirez, Barboza, or even Taylor should he opts to remain in the division. Haney though seems like a kid full of pride so he might decide to return to DAZN where can take on Prograis and maybe Kingry.   


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Viscore on June 11, 2023, 03:12:59 PM
Good fight for Lopez and he surely did what he is supposed to do. And it just shows that style makes fight. Kambosos beat him soundly, even have him in the canvass, but Kambosos lost to Haney twice. Josh Taylor used to dominate this weight class with his counter but he is not effective against Lopez as he is beat to the punch. And even majority of us wrote-off Lopez, but he just shows tonight that he still has it.

Now Lopez is a 2 division champ, and it open a lot of opportunity for him. Let's see if Haney is going to move up in 140 lbs soonest and go and fight Lopez. Again, it's a clash of style and with that, it's going to be another great fight. Let Lopez though enjoy his win and the start of his reign as WBO champion.
Lopez fought exceptionally well, securing a victory via unanimous decision, making a strong statement against the champion, Taylor. It was truly a thrilling fight where Lopez showcased his skills and proved many fans wrong. He delivered impressive combinations that Taylor likely did not anticipate, but ultimately, Taylor gracefully accepted his defeat. Congratulations to Teofimo Lopez for becoming the new champion.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on June 11, 2023, 03:42:22 PM

Lopez fought exceptionally well, securing a victory via unanimous decision, making a strong statement against the champion, Taylor. It was truly a thrilling fight where Lopez showcased his skills and proved many fans wrong. He delivered impressive combinations that Taylor likely did not anticipate, but ultimately, Taylor gracefully accepted his defeat. Congratulations to Teofimo Lopez for becoming the new champion.

His last two fights before this title fight are not really that good but he makes it up with this dominant performance, what I notice about Lopez's performance,  is he is great when he is facing top-level opponents.

A Haney fight is desirable and it could possibly happen we all know both fighters do not back down in any fight especially fights that involve titles, so we have a lot of great news coming out on who Lopez will fought and I'm sure it's going to be another top-level fighter.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: BitcoinPanther on June 11, 2023, 05:15:24 PM
Despite all his personal problems, Teofimo managed to prevail in this fight. It was a very strong performance. I was disappointed in Taylor because it did not seem like he gave his best effort.

This was a great comeback for Teo after how bad he looked in his last fight. If he had lost many would question whether he should retire but now he has the possibility of massive paydays in his future.

For the record, Lopez has beaten two former undisputed and lineal champions and these are Lomachenko and Taylor, Lopez shows his true form it's the best Lopez I've seen after the Loma fight.

It looks like Teofimo Lopez step up his performance whenever he meet great boxer.  The way I see the fight, Lopez is so focused and be able to outwit and out tempo Taylor.  And Taylor just had a very bad performance and not utilizing his height and reach advantage. We all seen it that Teofimo Lopez is way smaller than Josh Taylor.  Taylor failed to establish his job that should had helped him to keep Lopez @ bay.



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 12, 2023, 01:46:37 AM
It looks like Teofimo Lopez step up his performance whenever he meet great boxer.  The way I see the fight, Lopez is so focused and be able to outwit and out tempo Taylor.  And Taylor just had a very bad performance and not utilizing his height and reach advantage. We all seen it that Teofimo Lopez is way smaller than Josh Taylor.  Taylor failed to establish his job that should had helped him to keep Lopez @ bay.

This is also what I noticed about Teo Lopez, he rises up on occasion whenever he is on a big stage just like last night. I thought that if Teo showed up last night and his performance would be just like that when he fought Martin, that could have been an easy fight for Taylor but Lopez was amazing on his counter punching which he was not known for, I mean he is a knockout artist and an aggressive fighter on the get-go but nevertheless, it was a good game plan by Team Lopez but I think his hold of these belts will be short-live.



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Jating on June 12, 2023, 02:33:25 AM
It looks like Teofimo Lopez step up his performance whenever he meet great boxer.  The way I see the fight, Lopez is so focused and be able to outwit and out tempo Taylor.  And Taylor just had a very bad performance and not utilizing his height and reach advantage. We all seen it that Teofimo Lopez is way smaller than Josh Taylor.  Taylor failed to establish his job that should had helped him to keep Lopez @ bay.

This is also what I noticed about Teo Lopez, he rises up on occasion whenever he is on a big stage just like last night. I thought that if Teo showed up last night and his performance would be just like that when he fought Martin, that could have been an easy fight for Taylor but Lopez was amazing on his counter punching which he was not known for, I mean he is a knockout artist and an aggressive fighter on the get-go but nevertheless, it was a good game plan by Team Lopez but I think his hold of these belts will be short-live.

Yes, I guess he really need to practice and overcome that mentality though, maybe it did good to him tonight, but what if he was upset in his last fight? then there wil be no chance for him to win this WBO belt?

Or maybe it was in the training as well, he has been is some personal issues in his fight against Taylor, divorced to be exact. But he overcome it and then beat Taylor and never allow Josh to make a comeback. I think in the power department, eventhough we can say that Lopez is the smaller guy here, but he has pop in his punch and hurt Taylor several times.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: danherbias07 on June 12, 2023, 04:11:24 AM
Good fight for Lopez and he surely did what he is supposed to do. And it just shows that style makes fight. Kambosos beat him soundly, even have him in the canvass, but Kambosos lost to Haney twice. Josh Taylor used to dominate this weight class with his counter but he is not effective against Lopez as he is beat to the punch. And even majority of us wrote-off Lopez, but he just shows tonight that he still has it.

Now Lopez is a 2 division champ, and it open a lot of opportunity for him. Let's see if Haney is going to move up in 140 lbs soonest and go and fight Lopez. Again, it's a clash of style and with that, it's going to be another great fight. Let Lopez though enjoy his win and the start of his reign as WBO champion.
Well conditioned, confident with his speed, and didn't have to put his hands up as he also trust his tough chin. That was a spectacular performance from Teofimo Lopez. I mean I only watched the replay and already knew the results but I am still shocked whenever he evades the punches of Josh Taylor.
I think that takes out all the doubts on himself.
Maybe it's also ring rust for Josh Taylor, he ain't using his other hand that much, something that he must look up if ever he tried to fight again. Although I like what he said in the post-interview, "No excuses" the layoff has nothing to do with it.

So who's next? Teofimo Lopez didn't answer that yet. He said he ain't focus on that for now. But according to the news, he said something on his social media. "I might retire."
Different boxing analysts though are not believing it yet, this could be a promotional thing to increase the money that will come in when he fights again.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on June 12, 2023, 05:07:48 AM
It looks like the rumors are all true that he is going to retire but I doubt it's permanent based on this article
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Lopez has been battling complicated situations outside the ring, including turmoil with his family and a contentious divorce and custody battle. That may have been the main catalyst for his statements to reporters after his win.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/teofimo-lopez-jr-claims-to-be-retired-in-aftermath-of-massive-win-over-josh-taylor/

This could be the factor that leads to his early retirement but we never knew he is too good to retire many will encourage him to go back to the ring because there are still a lot of challenges  and goal to complete and he still has a bright future.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/A9b4w.md.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/A9b4w)

Image from : Babalabrute-boxing Facebook page


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 12, 2023, 09:09:15 AM
^ We will see then, Teo Lopez is very young and obviously a lot of years from him to become a champion again or get another belt. So it's surprising to hear that he will retired after his huge win against Josh Taylor.

So let's see, again he might un-retire, maybe he will just have to fix everything up in his personal life and then when everything is straighten up, he can make a huge comeback.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: robelneo on June 12, 2023, 10:20:00 AM
^ We will see then, Teo Lopez is very young and obviously a lot of years from him to become a champion again or get another belt. So it's surprising to hear that he will retired after his huge win against Josh Taylor.

So let's see, again he might un-retire, maybe he will just have to fix everything up in his personal life and then when everything is straighten up, he can make a huge comeback.

It's unrealistic, he has no injury, he has no record to protect, and he is just building his legacy no experts will advise him to retire, it should be something personal we do not know what's happening in his personal life but it seems he wants all his effort and time to address his personal demon, and he doesn't want his personal struggle to interfere in his career.

For a boxer, the first to give up is the body I don't think his body is ready to retire, his body will want to be in the ring again, train and spar again, and the money and the prestige that goes with being a champion will call him out to fight again.

I'm sure he'll be back again after a year.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: yazher on June 12, 2023, 03:03:13 PM
^ We will see then, Teo Lopez is very young and obviously a lot of years from him to become a champion again or get another belt. So it's surprising to hear that he will retired after his huge win against Josh Taylor.

So let's see, again he might un-retire, maybe he will just have to fix everything up in his personal life and then when everything is straighten up, he can make a huge comeback.

This is one of the never expected turns of the event maybe he has some personal reasons which will gonna be revealed later and he should not be pressured to ask the real reasons for his retirement since he needs to have a real relaxing time with his family after that huge win against Taylor. Due to the good opportunity in the boxing industry, if his reasons for his retirement are not that serious, then I think he will come back and we will see him once again compete for another title in their weight division. Right now all he needs to do is use the time and spend it with his loved ones and families.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Blitzboy on June 12, 2023, 05:46:46 PM
Good fight for Lopez and he surely did what he is supposed to do. And it just shows that style makes fight. Kambosos beat him soundly, even have him in the canvass, but Kambosos lost to Haney twice. Josh Taylor used to dominate this weight class with his counter but he is not effective against Lopez as he is beat to the punch. And even majority of us wrote-off Lopez, but he just shows tonight that he still has it.

Now Lopez is a 2 division champ, and it open a lot of opportunity for him. Let's see if Haney is going to move up in 140 lbs soonest and go and fight Lopez. Again, it's a clash of style and with that, it's going to be another great fight. Let Lopez though enjoy his win and the start of his reign as WBO champion.
Isn't it undeniable that the boxing match was exceptionally thrilling? Lopez demonstrated that his skill is far from waning. However, allow me to introduce a note of skepticism here. Did you observe Taylor refraining from engaging in clinches? That is his forte. The departure from his usual strategy was a tad perplexing, wouldn't you agree? It seemed as if the referee was prohibiting Taylor from his tactical game as early as the first round, and this did not bode well for him.

The situation gave the impression that the referee was manipulating the match to favor Lopez. Lopez was thus relieved from the strenuous task of outmuscling and maintaining clinches to hinder Taylor's inside combat strategy. Hence, does the victory genuinely belong to Lopez, or did the referee's intercession shift the balance of the competition?


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 12, 2023, 06:08:09 PM
Good fight for Lopez and he surely did what he is supposed to do. And it just shows that style makes fight. Kambosos beat him soundly, even have him in the canvass, but Kambosos lost to Haney twice. Josh Taylor used to dominate this weight class with his counter but he is not effective against Lopez as he is beat to the punch. And even majority of us wrote-off Lopez, but he just shows tonight that he still has it.

Now Lopez is a 2 division champ, and it open a lot of opportunity for him. Let's see if Haney is going to move up in 140 lbs soonest and go and fight Lopez. Again, it's a clash of style and with that, it's going to be another great fight. Let Lopez though enjoy his win and the start of his reign as WBO champion.
Isn't it undeniable that the boxing match was exceptionally thrilling? Lopez demonstrated that his skill is far from waning. However, allow me to introduce a note of skepticism here. Did you observe Taylor refraining from engaging in clinches? That is his forte. The departure from his usual strategy was a tad perplexing, wouldn't you agree? It seemed as if the referee was prohibiting Taylor from his tactical game as early as the first round, and this did not bode well for him.

The situation gave the impression that the referee was manipulating the match to favor Lopez. Lopez was thus relieved from the strenuous task of outmuscling and maintaining clinches to hinder Taylor's inside combat strategy. Hence, does the victory genuinely belong to Lopez, or did the referee's intercession shift the balance of the competition?

wow, that's a very nice observation! but have you read any review of such kind of observation what you just stated here? some boxing analysts may have seen that if something of that tactic has been played out.
because a lot are just seeing that lopez performed well on this fight winning by upset over taylor. seems that lopez has still a lot of juice on this sports though.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: robelneo on June 12, 2023, 09:30:54 PM

Isn't it undeniable that the boxing match was exceptionally thrilling? Lopez demonstrated that his skill is far from waning. However, allow me to introduce a note of skepticism here. Did you observe Taylor refraining from engaging in clinches? That is his forte. The departure from his usual strategy was a tad perplexing, wouldn't you agree? It seemed as if the referee was prohibiting Taylor from his tactical game as early as the first round, and this did not bode well for him.

The situation gave the impression that the referee was manipulating the match to favor Lopez. Lopez was thus relieved from the strenuous task of outmuscling and maintaining clinches to hinder Taylor's inside combat strategy. Hence, does the victory genuinely belong to Lopez, or did the referee's intercession shift the balance of the competition?

That's your observation but I don't see it that way, all I see is total domination they say in boxing it takes two to tango and style to make a fight, Lopez will not play Taylor's game he will impose his style and that's what actually happens.

In boxing, you are in big trouble if your opponent did not respect your power and that's what I saw, Taylor cannot hit him and Lopez hits him at will, in fact, he is punishing him.
Taylor took a lot of punishment he was frustrated going through the championship rounds.
I seldom see something like this a great champion taking too much punishment.

Based on the highlights of that fight: it was all Lopez, and the referee is not even doing anything
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTmgJ0CCfOs
No complaint from Taylor's camp everybody agreed that it was a total beating.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bbc.reporter on June 13, 2023, 03:48:35 AM
It looks like the rumors are all true that he is going to retire but I doubt it's permanent based on this article
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Lopez has been battling complicated situations outside the ring, including turmoil with his family and a contentious divorce and custody battle. That may have been the main catalyst for his statements to reporters after his win.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/teofimo-lopez-jr-claims-to-be-retired-in-aftermath-of-massive-win-over-josh-taylor/

This could be the factor that leads to his early retirement but we never knew he is too good to retire many will encourage him to go back to the ring because there are still a lot of challenges  and goal to complete and he still has a bright future.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/A9b4w.md.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/A9b4w)

Image from : Babalabrute-boxing Facebook page

This does not make sense, I reckon. The skeptical me thinks that he is trying to create a storyline for the fans to demand his return, which might give him more power to negotiate for more money.

Was there not a quick interview after the fight where he said that he was not being paid enough money? This certainly is a business decision. He will be in the ring if he gets paid the right amount hehe.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bittraffic on June 13, 2023, 04:41:59 AM
It looks like the rumors are all true that he is going to retire but I doubt it's permanent based on this article
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Lopez has been battling complicated situations outside the ring, including turmoil with his family and a contentious divorce and custody battle. That may have been the main catalyst for his statements to reporters after his win.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/teofimo-lopez-jr-claims-to-be-retired-in-aftermath-of-massive-win-over-josh-taylor/

This could be the factor that leads to his early retirement but we never knew he is too good to retire many will encourage him to go back to the ring because there are still a lot of challenges  and goal to complete and he still has a bright future.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/A9b4w.md.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/A9b4w)

Image from : Babalabrute-boxing Facebook page

This does not make sense, I reckon. The skeptical me thinks that he is trying to create a storyline for the fans to demand his return, which might give him more power to negotiate for more money.

Was there not a quick interview after the fight where he said that he was not being paid enough money? This certainly is a business decision. He will be in the ring if he gets paid the right amount hehe.

More than likely.
He is too young to retire this early and it's the wrong time to do it now that he finally proved his critics to be wrong about him. He embarrassed Taylor in his own way. It's spectacular. He hasn't got the biggest win, at least take that one more step to fight to the top like Prograis. There's Devin Haneys and Shakur whom he might be able to fight and make money. Never mind those bullies.

If it's all because of family problems like custody of his kid, the more he needs to fight. It's not about records anymore when it comes to family, it's about what you can bring to provide for your family.



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: btc_angela on June 13, 2023, 07:53:04 AM
^ We will see then, Teo Lopez is very young and obviously a lot of years from him to become a champion again or get another belt. So it's surprising to hear that he will retired after his huge win against Josh Taylor.

So let's see, again he might un-retire, maybe he will just have to fix everything up in his personal life and then when everything is straighten up, he can make a huge comeback.

This is one of the never expected turns of the event maybe he has some personal reasons which will gonna be revealed later and he should not be pressured to ask the real reasons for his retirement since he needs to have a real relaxing time with his family after that huge win against Taylor. Due to the good opportunity in the boxing industry, if his reasons for his retirement are not that serious, then I think he will come back and we will see him once again compete for another title in their weight division. Right now all he needs to do is use the time and spend it with his loved ones and families.

Yeah, it's very uncanny for Lopez to just throw in the towel and declare his retirement. He is a very competitive fighter, so competitive that he sometime blurted words that out of line, like in this fight, wherein he says that he will take Josh Taylor life in the ring.

And then when he completely dominated the fight and won it, suddenly he says that he is retiring. We've heard that he has personal reasons, but I doubt that this is the only reasons why he opted to retire this early. There could be more deeper reasons I guess that only him knows.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on June 13, 2023, 07:55:00 AM


More than likely.
He is too young to retire this early and it's the wrong time to do it now that he finally proved his critics to be wrong about him. He embarrassed Taylor in his own way. It's spectacular. He hasn't got the biggest win, at least take that one more step to fight to the top like Prograis. There's Devin Haneys and Shakur whom he might be able to fight and make money. Never mind those bullies.

If it's all because of family problems like custody of his kid, the more he needs to fight. It's not about records anymore when it comes to family, it's about what you can bring to provide for your family.



It's kinda intriguing do we have a similar story like this winning the undisputed title by total domination and you are at the peak of your career then you announce your retirement, its unthinkable to just leave something that every boxer is coveting, he may have felt that he has a long personal battle ahead of him that he has to pick between his fight in the ring or his fight in the court so he chooses the latter.

But definitely, he can always come back he is talented he could be another Mayweather because they have the same style and speed.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: bisdak40 on June 13, 2023, 10:56:36 AM
Yeah, it's very uncanny for Lopez to just throw in the towel and declare his retirement. He is a very competitive fighter, so competitive that he sometime blurted words that out of line, like in this fight, wherein he says that he will take Josh Taylor life in the ring.

And then when he completely dominated the fight and won it, suddenly he says that he is retiring. We've heard that he has personal reasons, but I doubt that this is the only reasons why he opted to retire this early. There could be more deeper reasons I guess that only him knows.

Maybe it's just a burst of emotion, that's why he has said that statement, I've read that he wants a nine-figure on his next fight or he will retire. Nine-figure means the minimum would be a hundred million dollars which I think is the biggest ever to be given as a guaranteed purse to a boxer if ever Top Rank heeds to his demand but I doubt he would receive this amount.

We have heard Teo Lopez issued statement which were out of the blue and this retirement thing is one of them but i guess this statement will not hold true in the future as he is in for a money fights whether he likes it or not, money will change everything including Teo's mind.



Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 13, 2023, 06:06:58 PM
Yeah, it's very uncanny for Lopez to just throw in the towel and declare his retirement. He is a very competitive fighter, so competitive that he sometime blurted words that out of line, like in this fight, wherein he says that he will take Josh Taylor life in the ring.

And then when he completely dominated the fight and won it, suddenly he says that he is retiring. We've heard that he has personal reasons, but I doubt that this is the only reasons why he opted to retire this early. There could be more deeper reasons I guess that only him knows.

Maybe it's just a burst of emotion, that's why he has said that statement, I've read that he wants a nine-figure on his next fight or he will retire. Nine-figure means the minimum would be a hundred million dollars which I think is the biggest ever to be given as a guaranteed purse to a boxer if ever Top Rank heeds to his demand but I doubt he would receive this amount.

We have heard Teo Lopez issued statement which were out of the blue and this retirement thing is one of them but i guess this statement will not hold true in the future as he is in for a money fights whether he likes it or not, money will change everything including Teo's mind.

We will likely hear more from him in the future because it seems to me that he was just saying that without literally meaning every words of it and besides, I couldn't possibly fathom his sudden decision because that is surely not a reasonable remarks after having a huge feat and became the new WBO champion at 140 lbs. division. Unless, he's just afraid to add another loss in his record.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: aioc on June 14, 2023, 08:32:44 AM


We will likely hear more from him in the future because it seems to me that he was just saying that without literally meaning every words of it and besides, I couldn't possibly fathom his sudden decision because that is surely not a reasonable remarks after having a huge feat and became the new WBO champion at 140 lbs. division. Unless, he's just afraid to add another loss in his record.

He'll have to confirm soon before the boxing governing bodies order the top boxers in that divisions to fight for those titles, these boxing organizations will need answers so they can order or re-arrange boxers for their respective titles, remember Teofimo won all titles if he can honor his duty as a champion then these boxing organizations will decide for themselves.

So he needs to confirm if this is really what he wants to retire or retain all the titles and fight whoever deserves to have a shot.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Botnake on June 14, 2023, 08:39:49 AM

So he needs to confirm if this is really what he wants to retire or retain all the titles and fight whoever deserves to have a shot.

He has been unpredictable, as if he doesn't cling too much to his accomplishments, believing that he can easily win a championship. Unlike other boxers who consistently fight challengers to retain their titles, this boxer is truly different—youthful and audacious.  ;D


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 12:49:11 PM


More than likely.
He is too young to retire this early and it's the wrong time to do it now that he finally proved his critics to be wrong about him. He embarrassed Taylor in his own way. It's spectacular. He hasn't got the biggest win, at least take that one more step to fight to the top like Prograis. There's Devin Haneys and Shakur whom he might be able to fight and make money. Never mind those bullies.

If it's all because of family problems like custody of his kid, the more he needs to fight. It's not about records anymore when it comes to family, it's about what you can bring to provide for your family.

It's kinda intriguing do we have a similar story like this winning the undisputed title by total domination and you are at the peak of your career then you announce your retirement, its unthinkable to just leave something that every boxer is coveting, he may have felt that he has a long personal battle ahead of him that he has to pick between his fight in the ring or his fight in the court so he chooses the latter.

But definitely, he can always come back he is talented he could be another Mayweather because they have the same style and speed.

Lol! Of course, Teofimo Lopez is just bluffing. Tell WBO to strip him of his belt and make it vacant and Teofimo will cry out loud not to strip him and he is not really retiring. :D

Now Teofimo Lopez wanted $100 million for him to continue fighting. Of course, this is just another bluff, he is just trying to get the biggest possible money he can get in his next fight or contract.

And btw, Teofimo Lopez has not won the undisputed belt but only the WBO although he is now the lineal champion of the division which matters most. Josh Taylor already vacated the other 3 belts last year since the original plan was to move up in weight after struggling to make 140. 


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Russlenat on June 14, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
Now Teofimo Lopez wanted $100 million for him to continue fighting. Of course, this is just another bluff, he is just trying to get the biggest possible money he can get in his next fight or contract.

He may have overvalued himself; he is not on the same level as Mayweather or Pacquiao, who are worth that kind of money. He is not even considered one of the top 10 best fighters in the world, so asking for such a high payout after a big win against Taylor seems excessive. I believe he should focus on defending his belt against challengers and consider moving up to a higher weight class once he feels he has achieved more in his current division.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Viscore on June 14, 2023, 02:27:17 PM
Now Teofimo Lopez wanted $100 million for him to continue fighting. Of course, this is just another bluff, he is just trying to get the biggest possible money he can get in his next fight or contract.

He may have overvalued himself; he is not on the same level as Mayweather or Pacquiao, who are worth that kind of money. He is not even considered one of the top 10 best fighters in the world, so asking for such a high payout after a big win against Taylor seems excessive. I believe he should focus on defending his belt against challengers and consider moving up to a higher weight class once he feels he has achieved more in his current division.

Knowing Teofimo Lopez based on his previous statements, he just loves to make a scene and considers himself a superstar. At least he isn't like Broner, who talks a lot but his actions don't speak volumes in the ring; this boxer isn't even a champion anymore. Anyway, regardless of what he says, let's not take it too seriously. What makes this guy special is his ability to win, and that's what matters most.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 15, 2023, 04:27:51 AM
Now Teofimo Lopez wanted $100 million for him to continue fighting. Of course, this is just another bluff, he is just trying to get the biggest possible money he can get in his next fight or contract.

He may have overvalued himself; he is not on the same level as Mayweather or Pacquiao, who are worth that kind of money. He is not even considered one of the top 10 best fighters in the world, so asking for such a high payout after a big win against Taylor seems excessive. I believe he should focus on defending his belt against challengers and consider moving up to a higher weight class once he feels he has achieved more in his current division.

Knowing Teofimo Lopez based on his previous statements, he just loves to make a scene and considers himself a superstar. At least he isn't like Broner, who talks a lot but his actions don't speak volumes in the ring; this boxer isn't even a champion anymore. Anyway, regardless of what he says, let's not take it too seriously. What makes this guy special is his ability to win, and that's what matters most.
Yes, this is also what I think about him declaring his retirement at a early age. Maybe he will just want another coverage on him or make a scene as you have said because for sure we are going to talk about his supposedly retirement. Maybe he is just waiting for the result of the Prograis fight and then challenge Prograis or who ever holds another belt in this division.

So it could be a bluff on his end so let's see how it will developed in the future. I also seriously doubt that he will just retire. There is also this element of money in this sports and he is always looking for a bigger pay so most likely he will have to play hard and then declare that he is coming back, win-win for him as there will be hype on his name again.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: danherbias07 on June 15, 2023, 05:07:13 AM
So it could be a bluff on his end so let's see how it will developed in the future. I also seriously doubt that he will just retire. There is also this element of money in this sports and he is always looking for a bigger pay so most likely he will have to play hard and then declare that he is coming back, win-win for him as there will be hype on his name again.
The element of money. Make a fuss and suddenly people will pump a trend about your fight and the champion. It actually works.
Here is the champs Regis Prograis's take on this retirement of Teofimo Lopez.
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“Nah, I think he’s frustrated,” said Prograis (transcribed by Boxing 247) when asked about whether he believed Lopez was officially done with the sport. “He said he got paid a million dollars to fight [Josh Taylor]. That’s terrible.”

“That is terrible money, so I don’t think he’s going to retire.,” continued Prograis. “If me and him fight, he’ll probably get 10 times what he got. So I don’t think he’s going to retire.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/06/14/teofimo-lopez-regis-prograis/

Personal issues, mental issues, divorce, and more. There's a lot going on in Teofimo Lopez's life and I doubt he could easily retire with less money in his hands. You are right @Yaunfitda he may be looking for that one big pay that will get him out of that problem. It may not even matter if it's a win or lose, as long as the money is there to save him from all these issues that he had been carrying. We saw him fight Josh Taylor in a dominating way, and if he is still asking if he still has it, yes he does.
Make that money, and retire in a secure way for a better life, I bet even his cornermen are giving him the same advice to end his career in a better position rather than now. Fighting whoever the champion will be after the Regis Prograis versus Danielito Zorrilla match will be the key to that target. It's just two days away.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 15, 2023, 02:05:08 PM
So it could be a bluff on his end so let's see how it will developed in the future. I also seriously doubt that he will just retire. There is also this element of money in this sports and he is always looking for a bigger pay so most likely he will have to play hard and then declare that he is coming back, win-win for him as there will be hype on his name again.
The element of money. Make a fuss and suddenly people will pump a trend about your fight and the champion. It actually works.
Here is the champs Regis Prograis's take on this retirement of Teofimo Lopez.
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“Nah, I think he’s frustrated,” said Prograis (transcribed by Boxing 247) when asked about whether he believed Lopez was officially done with the sport. “He said he got paid a million dollars to fight [Josh Taylor]. That’s terrible.”

“That is terrible money, so I don’t think he’s going to retire.,” continued Prograis. “If me and him fight, he’ll probably get 10 times what he got. So I don’t think he’s going to retire.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/06/14/teofimo-lopez-regis-prograis/

Personal issues, mental issues, divorce, and more. There's a lot going on in Teofimo Lopez's life and I doubt he could easily retire with less money in his hands. You are right @Yaunfitda he may be looking for that one big pay that will get him out of that problem. It may not even matter if it's a win or lose, as long as the money is there to save him from all these issues that he had been carrying. We saw him fight Josh Taylor in a dominating way, and if he is still asking if he still has it, yes he does.
Make that money, and retire in a secure way for a better life, I bet even his cornermen are giving him the same advice to end his career in a better position rather than now. Fighting whoever the champion will be after the Regis Prograis versus Danielito Zorrilla match will be the key to that target. It's just two days away.

I believe Teofimo easily earned a minimum of $2 million in that fight which might reach $3 million if the numbers did well.

Prograis is also bluffing. He said he wanted Ramirez and Taylor rematch yet he signed with Matchroom. He said he was offered bigger money by Top Rank but why did he decide to join Matchroom? Prograis is just talking about fighting the top dogs but in reality, he does not want any of them. Now he is challenging Teofimo as if it is easy to make a deal between DAZN and ESPN. And I highly doubt a Lopez-Prograis unification bout can guarantee Teofimo $20 million. Teofimo can actually earn more by giving Kambosos a rematch or a Devin Haney fight or a Ramirez fight.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Botnake on June 15, 2023, 07:54:07 PM
I believe Teofimo easily earned a minimum of $2 million in that fight which might reach $3 million if the numbers did well.
So from $3 million to $100 million, that's a big jump. He must be out of his mind as the numbers he is expecting seem unrealistic. He will have a big fight soon, but it will not easily reach that number since he has to continue building his legacy. Maybe if he beats the top 10 boxers in the world that are on the division that he can fight and dominates them, then going to stardom would be easier for him, and that money he is expecting would be possible.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kasabus on June 15, 2023, 09:55:43 PM
So it could be a bluff on his end so let's see how it will developed in the future. I also seriously doubt that he will just retire. There is also this element of money in this sports and he is always looking for a bigger pay so most likely he will have to play hard and then declare that he is coming back, win-win for him as there will be hype on his name again.
The element of money. Make a fuss and suddenly people will pump a trend about your fight and the champion. It actually works.
Here is the champs Regis Prograis's take on this retirement of Teofimo Lopez.
Quote
“Nah, I think he’s frustrated,” said Prograis (transcribed by Boxing 247) when asked about whether he believed Lopez was officially done with the sport. “He said he got paid a million dollars to fight [Josh Taylor]. That’s terrible.”

“That is terrible money, so I don’t think he’s going to retire.,” continued Prograis. “If me and him fight, he’ll probably get 10 times what he got. So I don’t think he’s going to retire.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/06/14/teofimo-lopez-regis-prograis/

Personal issues, mental issues, divorce, and more. There's a lot going on in Teofimo Lopez's life and I doubt he could easily retire with less money in his hands. You are right @Yaunfitda he may be looking for that one big pay that will get him out of that problem. It may not even matter if it's a win or lose, as long as the money is there to save him from all these issues that he had been carrying. We saw him fight Josh Taylor in a dominating way, and if he is still asking if he still has it, yes he does.
Make that money, and retire in a secure way for a better life, I bet even his cornermen are giving him the same advice to end his career in a better position rather than now. Fighting whoever the champion will be after the Regis Prograis versus Danielito Zorrilla match will be the key to that target. It's just two days away.

I believe Teofimo easily earned a minimum of $2 million in that fight which might reach $3 million if the numbers did well.

Prograis is also bluffing. He said he wanted Ramirez and Taylor rematch yet he signed with Matchroom. He said he was offered bigger money by Top Rank but why did he decide to join Matchroom? Prograis is just talking about fighting the top dogs but in reality, he does not want any of them. Now he is challenging Teofimo as if it is easy to make a deal between DAZN and ESPN. And I highly doubt a Lopez-Prograis unification bout can guarantee Teofimo $20 million. Teofimo can actually earn more by giving Kambosos a rematch or a Devin Haney fight or a Ramirez fight.

They can make the unification fight happen as long as both promoters will agree but seeing their situation now, it's not a good time for them as they may be the current champions but their names is still not ringing a bell for most people to make their fight bigger. It's still preferred if both of them will have a few title defense to market their own name and make it more known in the industry.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Baofeng on June 15, 2023, 10:53:41 PM
So it could be a bluff on his end so let's see how it will developed in the future. I also seriously doubt that he will just retire. There is also this element of money in this sports and he is always looking for a bigger pay so most likely he will have to play hard and then declare that he is coming back, win-win for him as there will be hype on his name again.
The element of money. Make a fuss and suddenly people will pump a trend about your fight and the champion. It actually works.
Here is the champs Regis Prograis's take on this retirement of Teofimo Lopez.
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“Nah, I think he’s frustrated,” said Prograis (transcribed by Boxing 247) when asked about whether he believed Lopez was officially done with the sport. “He said he got paid a million dollars to fight [Josh Taylor]. That’s terrible.”

“That is terrible money, so I don’t think he’s going to retire.,” continued Prograis. “If me and him fight, he’ll probably get 10 times what he got. So I don’t think he’s going to retire.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/06/14/teofimo-lopez-regis-prograis/

Personal issues, mental issues, divorce, and more. There's a lot going on in Teofimo Lopez's life and I doubt he could easily retire with less money in his hands. You are right @Yaunfitda he may be looking for that one big pay that will get him out of that problem. It may not even matter if it's a win or lose, as long as the money is there to save him from all these issues that he had been carrying. We saw him fight Josh Taylor in a dominating way, and if he is still asking if he still has it, yes he does.
Make that money, and retire in a secure way for a better life, I bet even his cornermen are giving him the same advice to end his career in a better position rather than now. Fighting whoever the champion will be after the Regis Prograis versus Danielito Zorrilla match will be the key to that target. It's just two days away.

I believe Teofimo easily earned a minimum of $2 million in that fight which might reach $3 million if the numbers did well.

Prograis is also bluffing. He said he wanted Ramirez and Taylor rematch yet he signed with Matchroom. He said he was offered bigger money by Top Rank but why did he decide to join Matchroom? Prograis is just talking about fighting the top dogs but in reality, he does not want any of them. Now he is challenging Teofimo as if it is easy to make a deal between DAZN and ESPN. And I highly doubt a Lopez-Prograis unification bout can guarantee Teofimo $20 million. Teofimo can actually earn more by giving Kambosos a rematch or a Devin Haney fight or a Ramirez fight.

From what I understand from Regis, he said that maybe Teo Lopez might get just finished his contract with Top Rank and same with Josh Taylor. And later on we find out that Kambosos did renew his contract with Top Rank.

So in any case, he thinks that TR can't offer him fights that he wanted at 140 lbs so he jump on the bandwagon with Eddie Hearn at Match Room.

And who is he fighting for his debut with his new promotional company? Zorilla, Lol, Zorilla is a 8:1 underdog against Prograis. Probably just a get busy or tune up fight for Regis here.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/regis-prograis-faces-danielito-zorrilla-on-saturday-wants-subriel-matias-next/264615

So he is defending his WBC belt for the first time against a low rank 140 lbs. So that is the best Match Room can offer for him.  ;D


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: freedomgo on June 16, 2023, 08:40:04 PM
So it could be a bluff on his end so let's see how it will developed in the future. I also seriously doubt that he will just retire. There is also this element of money in this sports and he is always looking for a bigger pay so most likely he will have to play hard and then declare that he is coming back, win-win for him as there will be hype on his name again.
The element of money. Make a fuss and suddenly people will pump a trend about your fight and the champion. It actually works.
Here is the champs Regis Prograis's take on this retirement of Teofimo Lopez.
Quote
“Nah, I think he’s frustrated,” said Prograis (transcribed by Boxing 247) when asked about whether he believed Lopez was officially done with the sport. “He said he got paid a million dollars to fight [Josh Taylor]. That’s terrible.”

“That is terrible money, so I don’t think he’s going to retire.,” continued Prograis. “If me and him fight, he’ll probably get 10 times what he got. So I don’t think he’s going to retire.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/06/14/teofimo-lopez-regis-prograis/

Personal issues, mental issues, divorce, and more. There's a lot going on in Teofimo Lopez's life and I doubt he could easily retire with less money in his hands. You are right @Yaunfitda he may be looking for that one big pay that will get him out of that problem. It may not even matter if it's a win or lose, as long as the money is there to save him from all these issues that he had been carrying. We saw him fight Josh Taylor in a dominating way, and if he is still asking if he still has it, yes he does.
Make that money, and retire in a secure way for a better life, I bet even his cornermen are giving him the same advice to end his career in a better position rather than now. Fighting whoever the champion will be after the Regis Prograis versus Danielito Zorrilla match will be the key to that target. It's just two days away.

I believe Teofimo easily earned a minimum of $2 million in that fight which might reach $3 million if the numbers did well.

Prograis is also bluffing. He said he wanted Ramirez and Taylor rematch yet he signed with Matchroom. He said he was offered bigger money by Top Rank but why did he decide to join Matchroom? Prograis is just talking about fighting the top dogs but in reality, he does not want any of them. Now he is challenging Teofimo as if it is easy to make a deal between DAZN and ESPN. And I highly doubt a Lopez-Prograis unification bout can guarantee Teofimo $20 million. Teofimo can actually earn more by giving Kambosos a rematch or a Devin Haney fight or a Ramirez fight.

From what I understand from Regis, he said that maybe Teo Lopez might get just finished his contract with Top Rank and same with Josh Taylor. And later on we find out that Kambosos did renew his contract with Top Rank.

So in any case, he thinks that TR can't offer him fights that he wanted at 140 lbs so he jump on the bandwagon with Eddie Hearn at Match Room.

And who is he fighting for his debut with his new promotional company? Zorilla, Lol, Zorilla is a 8:1 underdog against Prograis. Probably just a get busy or tune up fight for Regis here.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/regis-prograis-faces-danielito-zorrilla-on-saturday-wants-subriel-matias-next/264615

So he is defending his WBC belt for the first time against a low rank 140 lbs. So that is the best Match Room can offer for him.  ;D

It seems to be that case and I cannot blame him if he thinks that way because Top Rank has indeed been having some difficulties in the recent years to make a big fight with other big boxers because it is already known that Bob Arum doesn't have any good relationship with Eddie Hear nor with Al Haymon.
Now we know that PBC and Matchroom does have their own big boxers that is also a champion in their respective division and sooner or later, if these two giants will have the most place in every division, then for sure Bob Arum will continue to face hardship because his own boxer cannot achieve their dreams because of the mentioned conflicts.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 16, 2023, 08:59:06 PM
^ It boils down to boxing politics, or maybe those greedy promotional company who just wanted all the money that they can squeeze from their fighters and so it should be in-house fight. Or if there are so much money then they could work it out and put aside their difference.

But for Teo Lopez or even Regis Prograis, I think this fight can still be made, that is if Lopez will un-retire.

Regis fight I do agree that it is very obvious a cherry pick fight by Eddie Hearn. And if Regis win then most likely Match Room will have to find a better fighter for him next as they have the leverage as Prograis is a champion.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 17, 2023, 08:09:50 PM
I believe Teofimo easily earned a minimum of $2 million in that fight which might reach $3 million if the numbers did well.
So from $3 million to $100 million, that's a big jump. He must be out of his mind as the numbers he is expecting seem unrealistic. He will have a big fight soon, but it will not easily reach that number since he has to continue building his legacy. Maybe if he beats the top 10 boxers in the world that are on the division that he can fight and dominates them, then going to stardom would be easier for him, and that money he is expecting would be possible.

That numbers might be the just the guarantee price, or what he will get on the money in the table, the fight split. And then we still have the PPV numbers coming in and for sure they will also split that up.

But it seems that he is not contented with that kind of money, and he wanted more from contract on his promoters or network affiliations. I don't see him getting any bigger than that though, unless he is on the 147 lbs, the money weight class. But let's see if he will continue to go on his retirement or make a comeback as he is just bluffing to a new and bigger money.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: inthelongrun on June 17, 2023, 09:25:24 PM
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From what I understand from Regis, he said that maybe Teo Lopez might get just finished his contract with Top Rank and same with Josh Taylor. And later on we find out that Kambosos did renew his contract with Top Rank.

So in any case, he thinks that TR can't offer him fights that he wanted at 140 lbs so he jump on the bandwagon with Eddie Hearn at Match Room.

And who is he fighting for his debut with his new promotional company? Zorilla, Lol, Zorilla is a 8:1 underdog against Prograis. Probably just a get busy or tune up fight for Regis here.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/regis-prograis-faces-danielito-zorrilla-on-saturday-wants-subriel-matias-next/264615

So he is defending his WBC belt for the first time against a low rank 140 lbs. So that is the best Match Room can offer for him.  ;D

So Regis Prograis himself admitted that he had a hard time deciding between Top Rank and Matchroom. Accordingly, his final decision was more on his plan of becoming a promoter. Personally, I don't think he will become successful as a promoter or he is just making this as an alibi. This decision costs him his so-called prime targets and the bigger money offered by Top Rank. He actually signed into a promoter with less money and with zero of his targeted names.

Regis Prograis' main targets are Ramirez, Taylor,  Lopez, and Matias. All of these big names are under Top Rank except for Matias the least popular of that list. Even if Ramirez and Lopez leave Top Rank; Taylor moves up in weight and Matias leaves PBC, still it is a fact that there are no guarantees that they will sign with Matchroom. Actually, there is a higher chance that most of these fighters will just renew their contracts. In the end, Matias never went to Matchroom and stayed with PBC. We'll see if Ramirez and Lopez stay with Top Rank too but I expected them to renew as well.

So Prograis is now fighting Zorilla compared to Top Rank's first fight offer against Barboza. Barboza alone is many times more popular and bigger money and already beat Zorilla by an easy decision. So I cannot stop myself from thinking that either Prograis made a stupid decision with lesser money which is probably the result of his boastful claim that he can manage himself rather than hire a professional and influential boxing manager. Or he is actually just scared of fighting all the big names in the division where most of them are still legally under Top Rank. So it's like Prograis is secretly happy fighting nobodies with lesser money for as long as he can milk his belt for a long period of time.


source: https://sports.yahoo.com/why-regis-prograis-turned-down-top-ranks-more-lucrative-offer-and-signed-with-matchroom-193141665.html#:~:text=From%20a%20Top%20Rank%20standpoint,with%20the%20company%20into%202025.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: mirakal on June 17, 2023, 09:31:31 PM
^ It boils down to boxing politics, or maybe those greedy promotional company who just wanted all the money that they can squeeze from their fighters and so it should be in-house fight. Or if there are so much money then they could work it out and put aside their difference.

But for Teo Lopez or even Regis Prograis, I think this fight can still be made, that is if Lopez will un-retire.

Regis fight I do agree that it is very obvious a cherry pick fight by Eddie Hearn. And if Regis win then most likely Match Room will have to find a better fighter for him next as they have the leverage as Prograis is a champion.

Nah! I don't think that Lopez is really serious about that statement because he just became a star in super-light and achieve a difficult feat that not everybody can achieve. And now he's retiring? I don't really think so. I view it as a tactic so that he can have what he wanted but I doubt as well that he can get what he want as he's still starting to build his career from scratch. Too early for him to demand though.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: coin-investor on June 17, 2023, 09:46:52 PM


Nah! I don't think that Lopez is really serious about that statement because he just became a star in super-light and achieve a difficult feat that not everybody can achieve. And now he's retiring? I don't really think so. I view it as a tactic so that he can have what he wanted but I doubt as well that he can get what he want as he's still starting to build his career from scratch. Too early for him to demand though.

I read in one caption on social media that he wants more if he wants to make a comeback maybe a bait for promoters to give what he wants because he totally dominated Taylor and won the undisputed title, but it's early to ask for that he is not yet fully established his name as a pound for pound fighter, there are other boxers who still has a claim for that title.

We'll know in the coming months if he is that serious or the boxing organizations will have to order championship fights on all their top-ranking contenders, and Taylor will have a chance at that.


Title: Re: Boxing: Josh Taylor vs Teofimo Lopez
Post by: Kemarit on June 18, 2023, 12:09:25 PM


Nah! I don't think that Lopez is really serious about that statement because he just became a star in super-light and achieve a difficult feat that not everybody can achieve. And now he's retiring? I don't really think so. I view it as a tactic so that he can have what he wanted but I doubt as well that he can get what he want as he's still starting to build his career from scratch. Too early for him to demand though.

I read in one caption on social media that he wants more if he wants to make a comeback maybe a bait for promoters to give what he wants because he totally dominated Taylor and won the undisputed title, but it's early to ask for that he is not yet fully established his name as a pound for pound fighter, there are other boxers who still has a claim for that title.

That's what him and his father wanted, and I do agree that it might be a bait for promoters after his contract with Top Rank. But if they are asking for too much money then I doubt that promoters are going to bite on it. He even doesn't crack the pound for pound list. Although he is a great boxer, but still his level might not be that elite for now.

We'll know in the coming months if he is that serious or the boxing organizations will have to order championship fights on all their top-ranking contenders, and Taylor will have a chance at that.

We will see, now that Regis Prograis has won and defended his belt and calling for him. Maybe in the next coming months he might come out of his retirement and have a unification fight with Prograis.