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Title: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Onyeeze on April 08, 2023, 01:10:43 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on April 08, 2023, 01:33:27 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.

But if you just mean that we shouldn't wait for the government to provide us with proper job, I totally agree with you. Be the master of your own fate. And I wish you all the best regarding your business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 08, 2023, 01:50:55 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Nwada001 on April 08, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
We can survive without the government up to a point. But no matter how we put it, the government's role is very essential to our day-to-day lives. If they are not active or do not put social amenities in place, it will be kind of hard for us to set up our businesses. As the above member has mentioned, we need them to provide a few security measures, human rights laws, etc. Without those laws to govern us to some extent, we will be living like canivorous animals; we will always want to feed on the next person's holding. 

When it comes to job creation, we just need a little bit of support from the government to do that. Statistically, private individuals are the highest employers of labor, which means the job creation part is gradually leaving the government's hands. If one depends on the government for employment opportunities before he or she can make a living, then that person might end up being lazy and poor for the rest of his life. Government  Job creation can never be enough for its entire population. So making and earning a living is in your own hands. Learn a skill, look for what you are good at, and create your own job.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: knowngunman on April 08, 2023, 02:01:58 PM
Higher college education is meant to prepare you to face your future and be useful to your society. Attending school with the aim of getting government job is absolutely wrong and that's why especially in my country, entrepreneurs skills are mandatory in all higher institutions in order to reduce the expectations and reliance on government. Government itself is suffering from both external and internal debt and as such can not carter or employ everyone. However, it's the duty of government to provide enabling environment for people to practice the entrepreneur skills learned during their school days or outside the school and as well as providing security for them and their property.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: reagansimms on April 08, 2023, 02:04:31 PM
Why wait, why not create your own jobs. College graduates have knowledge and a creative mindset that can be used as motivation to start a business. The business world can be an option for young graduates to raise money, of course there are twists and turns that must be passed before achieving success.
Need to make the right decisions to be successful, working in the government will be stuck with all the rules that apply and forever you will take orders from superiors. You can make your own rules if you have a business, no matter how small the business you start, you are the boss.



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Zaguru12 on April 08, 2023, 02:23:40 PM
If we look at the wealthiest people in the world today they are business owners. This generation are so lazy that they don’t want to build a business on their own. Aside government jobs one could also work under private companies or businesses although it is not secure but sitting around looking for white collar jobs should be discouraged.

So many countries rely more on capitalism this days which actually draws the line that acquiring school education doesn’t necessarily mean you’re guaranteed a job. The sole responsibility of the government is to provide an environment where it is safe for everyone to run there business and not restrict some the access to either grants or loans.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ElmedoRator on April 08, 2023, 02:26:02 PM
Yes, waiting for the government to provide everything is not a good investment strategy. Everyone can create their own opportunities and success through learning, skills, efforts and creativity. Entrepreneurship is a great way to create your own opportunities and make money. However, it is also risky and requires a lot of knowledge and experience. Therefore, you need to prepare carefully, learn and evaluate the market, products, competitors, as well as regulations related to business. I'm glad to hear you've started a popcorn business and have workers under you. This shows that you know how to create your own opportunities and bring value to the community. However, make sure that your work complies with the laws and regulations relevant to the business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Onyeeze on April 08, 2023, 02:43:11 PM
If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's
 
Theirs different between government job opportunities and protection, the surviving of man I'm talking off, is the kind of employment not of government protection, if government gives you protection and you feed three square meal a day can you survive, the answer should go to NO, we don't have to be dependent in government because if we assume to depend in them we shall grow old without being employed in any sector, anyone have to be creative for its surroundings to be independent and survive safely.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: FrozenBit on April 08, 2023, 03:06:26 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Because you have not yet adapted enough to the current working environment, I do not like the slightly negative way of looking at the problem, although I can see that the job is facing many difficulties for employees, but try asking questions if there is no problem. The management history of the government apparatus shows whether people have the capacity to help each other through difficult periods of the economy. And never deny that it is important that the government has a sustainable economic development strategy and is accountable to the people to ensure a better future for everyone.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Davidvictorson on April 08, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
Yes and no depends on your career aspirations. If you want to be a politician you need to be a civil servant. If you want to be in the military, you need to work for the government. So in this sense, you need the "government job" to reach your aspirations and by extension survive.

However, you do not need to depend on the government to be an entrepreneur or to start your business. Although, you may need SME loans or grants from the government to kick-start your idea, business, or enterprise. So in a sense you are depending on the government.

Despite this, to survive in the pure sense, you need the government to provide an enabling environment, to make policies that are favourable for businesses to grow etc. So you see, the government is needed to survive whichever way we choose to look at it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: cabron on April 08, 2023, 03:28:42 PM
If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's
 
Theirs different between government job opportunities and protection, the surviving of man I'm talking off, is the kind of employment not of government protection, if government gives you protection and you feed three square meal a day can you survive, the answer should go to NO, we don't have to be dependent in government because if we assume to depend in them we shall grow old without being employed in any sector, anyone have to be creative for its surroundings to be independent and survive safely.

You just have to be very resourceful to be independent. You seem to have managed to put up a business and then have workers under your wings so that's quite an achievement already and it's you who create jobs for someone to make money. You do have the resources.

But for some of us, we hit rock bottom first and then hit again over and over.
Somehow the government can be the leech that sucks blood from us. But for them to have something to suck they need to provide jobs, build infrastructures, and send men to war are just examples of what they would do.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on April 08, 2023, 03:47:29 PM
Looking at government in our country is just like watching your in a mirror or over water down to you. Government are not really helping matters because they fails to create employment opportunities for her citizens due to much population in the country which they can't handle anymore to accommodate the rate of people that have graduated from Universities without job. For me as a good citizens we are looking for self employed would be the best options for us, so establishing yourself is really good without waiting for white scholar (collar) job.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bangjoe on April 08, 2023, 04:07:41 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.

But if you just mean that we shouldn't wait for the government to provide us with proper job, I totally agree with you. Be the master of your own fate. And I wish you all the best regarding your business.

Yes, of course, with the concept that the government is also quite involved in providing existing facilities that most people may not be aware of, such as stabilizing the prices of goods on the market for business needs and as you said, that is, from a security perspective, road infrastructure for access, we buy materials for construction. make products and so on that most people don't realize that the government also provides convenience with such facilities, from this perspective I also think that we cannot be separated from dependence on the government.

But if the premise of the OP's statement leads to what should be done as a human being who wants to generate income, of course I also agree that we have to do it ourselves without having to wait for the government to create jobs first so we can work.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: michellee on April 08, 2023, 04:34:00 PM
The government has indeed provided jobs for people but the problem is that the competition for jobs provided by the government is very tight. Meanwhile, many apply for the job and many cannot be accepted at the job. And even though the private sector also provides jobs for them, it will also not be able to accommodate these people.

So those who want to develop their talents may switch to starting a business or business. And this is where the competition between businesses begins because if they can try hard using many ways, they will surely be successful and will not depend on the government to find jobs. They can even offer jobs to people who are still unemployed.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Wapfika on April 08, 2023, 04:45:39 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Government job is not for everyone because of its limited slot so we should not rely on it to get our salary. However government is responsible for bringing more jobs in the country by attracting private investors to create business that will bring jobs to the country. Having our own business is not bad but it’s still useless without the government help to boost the economy because this will bring more money to its citizens that will purchased your own product.

Perhaps you are living on a country which government job is premium that makes you incorporate survivability to government jobs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 08, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Even though what you say is partly true by not having too much hope in the government, but on the other hand, in all current affairs, especially when talking about work, I think there is still their interference in it.
Maybe you can do any kind of work without government-related agencies, such as freelancing or trading in crypto, as many do, but on the other hand, there are other things, such as facilities provided there, and the government also has a stake in that, so I think this like this, even though we don't think of the government, we still can't let go of what the government is doing with the policies they have.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Husires on April 08, 2023, 05:07:54 PM
The government's economic policies between each country differ from one country to another. There is a country that focuses on the government economy, where everyone works for the government in exchange for lower food prices and lower salaries.

In some countries, it is easy to start an activity and make profits, but all prices are very high, and without your work, you cannot feed yourself.
All these economic differences differ from one country to another, and therefore we cannot get a unified answer, but inevitably the policies in which the government controls something, it kills creativity and innovation.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Moeda on April 08, 2023, 05:25:21 PM
Two things that university graduates think about, one is looking for a job with the assumption that they will get a decent job when they have earned a bachelor's degree or even a master's degree. The second is creating jobs, or by opening a business for an independent life.

We cannot force our way of thinking on everyone. In fact most people work in government agencies to be a pride for him. On the other hand, for those who think about business, he will always be proud to tell everyone about the business he is running.

Of course every individual can survive without having to work in a government agency. We've said that the unemployed are busier than those with steady jobs. Because the unemployed will do any work to make money.

I think most of the people in this forum are less interested in the job system provided by the government. Because we know that the government will accept someone to work, they must have sufficient administrative documents.

However, good people must enter the government system, this is to prevent the government from being authoritarian in making decisions, especially in the economic field. Because if the government cannot be controlled, of course the impact will also be felt by the community. So, there are positive values when someone is in an institution.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 08, 2023, 05:34:23 PM
Simply considered, a smaller government could be good but at the end of the day it cant be zrro. I am one of those people who want minimum government (liberal) but also spend on what is needed. Healhtcare, education, police, fireman, military. There are some things which is needed, USA pays so much and yet doesnt even have healthcare, thats not it. Spend the salaries of excess workers of government towards startups and lesser taxes and country would blossom that way.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Alphakilo on April 08, 2023, 05:45:21 PM
Anyone waiting on the government to provide him or her with a white coler job is wasting his own time.
Even as a graduate, you need not wait for the government to earn a living for your self.
You can start up any small business gradually you can make it big while you still search for government job.
Waiting for government for provision is a total waste of time.
I have seen business billionaires who are graduate, without waiting for the government they started their own small scale business and today they are doing so well.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: livingfree on April 08, 2023, 05:48:18 PM
Yes, we don't have to rely to the government if we're eager to become successful and find a better job and have a better living. But government and its actions will certainly play a role to the mass on how it will create a lot of jobs especially the projects that it makes.

I'm thinking of working under the government before but then, I just thought that it's not challenging and there will be more demand to you for working under them. Well, each country has different policies and has a different experience towards working under the government but one thing is for sure, and that is not everyone can work for them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: KiaKia on April 08, 2023, 05:57:26 PM
If the government are not doing what they are supposed to I bet there will be a war going on in your country right now, government provides security both internal and external, I think that's enough, if you think it's not, then take a minute and think about Russia and Ukraine right now, if you are in one of these countries I bet you won't think about getting a job or have a better life, what will be the most important thing is to stay alive.

Be thankful.

Do not wait on the government to provide a better life for you, that's your job, learn something useful, develop a skill and you will grow higher from there.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Hispo on April 08, 2023, 06:26:23 PM
I have seen this talking point before, since I live in a country were many people have political ideals leaning towards the left, they believe the government is necessary to the existence of jobs and creation of prosperity, ironically that experiment has only brought food scarcity and unemployment here.

Others say that the ideal case is an open and liberal economy where the government only takes care of the justice and the proper regulations, so the private industry can generate wealth while not abusing the system.

I am yet to fully study both alternative and decide which one is better for my own society, for now I would be willing to give the latter one chance to see if it can reverse some of the damage done to my homeland.

Congratulations for your Popcorn business, OP.
Keep it up.  ;)



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: panganib999 on April 08, 2023, 06:26:44 PM
In its very core, the government has all the capacities to offer up jobs and improve employment in the country it operates in. But they do not do so for many reasons. And just because you are able to work around your government's lack of empathy against the marginalized and the impoverished. Imagine if you were on these people's shoes, with not even a capital to start a business with, and no chances of ever having a loan approved because you have no dime for yourself.

In a way, the government is needed to supplement the lack of employment in these social groups. Again, just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone. We're not dealt the same cards when we were born as much as you hate to admit it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Silberman on April 08, 2023, 06:56:14 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.

But if you just mean that we shouldn't wait for the government to provide us with proper job, I totally agree with you. Be the master of your own fate. And I wish you all the best regarding your business.
Agreed, I disagree with the policies of the governments when they overregulate a market, create nonsensical laws, print too much money or there is too much corruption, however to deny that governments fulfill an important function will be to lie to ourselves, governments in some way or form have been around since the advent of civilizations and this is not going to change as long as humans exist, but expecting that governments provide jobs is a mistake as governments are meant to run efficiently, hiring the least number of people that they can.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 08, 2023, 06:57:05 PM
on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, .
I totally agreed, government jobs are not necessary to live a wealthy life but an optimistic and progressive mindset is. Because i have seen an example with my own eye, One of my professors left a government job of level 17 there is 20 level total, and he left at 17 a permanent job and went abroad for higher education and came back after round about 8 years and started to teach in our university and taught us in 2 semesters.

Now again, he went on another scholarship of desk work, where he just has to do research and will earn 9 lac ($3k+) while he was earning only 1 lac ($300) back in a government job at level 17. So yes without government jobs we can survive but we have to focus on our retirement, As we have to save money to live a happy old age life.

Talking about my own self, i never wish to get a government job because i know it will hold me to a single loophole of work for my entire life and i  can not take that loop weight so i moved up to freelancing, i am still facing a lot of difficulties like financially in freelancing and sometimes i thought i should go for a government job but that's just due to economic situation i know once i succeed i will not regret my decision.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Crypto Library on April 08, 2023, 07:16:00 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Obviously why not!  It is not something that you have to sit and hope for a government job all the time, rather I think that if you are qualified, start something yourself without waiting for a government job, it can be a business, it can be freelancing. There is no obligation to always be higher educated and do government jobs. Although many people in third world countries sit for government jobs in the hope that they can get through life well through pensions in their old age.But my thoughts are different, I think the job is very much like that, the word job comes from servant, so I think it is best to start own business even though there is risk here, but if you don't take risk, you can never achieve anything big.
There are many people who are now among the top rich people in the world without doing government jobs. And I consider it an expression of shamelessness to be educated for government jobs.
I appreciate your moves and wish you all the best for your future business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Alisha-k on April 08, 2023, 08:40:23 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.

But if you just mean that we shouldn't wait for the government to provide us with proper job, I totally agree with you. Be the master of your own fate. And I wish you all the best regarding your business.
wow!! So the government does all this??

What country is this please cause am lost, what efforts does the government put in to ensure scamming activities are limited not to talk of terminated completely or, how and what does the government do to ensure that we do have supplies of these equipments??

In my humble opinion, as much as we need government for the security and other "social infrastructure" plus amenities the provide, when it comes to job provision, we can do that on our own without being dependent on them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: |MINER| on April 08, 2023, 08:58:34 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
It is always not necessary to doing government job or seeking for government job for survive . And I think you can't survive if you sit and do nothing and just waiting for only government job. And this sitting for government jobs increases the rate of unemployed population in a country. And this later makes life miserable for people to survive. Because government for is limited and  of course not everyone will get it's normal. So it's wise to do something instead of sitting unemploy from this way you already have take a good move and best wishes for your next target.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: rat03gopoh on April 08, 2023, 09:35:38 PM
on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
It's true to survive, but don't expect more to grow your business because when that happens the government will intervene.
Btw,do you also manufacture your own product ingredients? As far as I know, the government at least controls all the prices of ingredients to remain affordable for all economic circles. Then what about employees? You and they also have the legal protection of the relationship between employees and superiors.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ndabagi01 on April 08, 2023, 09:56:07 PM
If you look at the current situation in the world, you will notice that people in the government workforce are not more numerous than those who are employed and working for themselves. The majority of citizens do not work for the government, which has greatly aided economic development. The government cannot handle everything, which is why it requires assistance from other sectors aside from the public sector.

Working for the government or not, there is some kind of correlation that benefits both parties. Paying taxes to the government in exchange for the security of your life and property, including your business. It's exactly like a batter trade. We don't need government jobs to survive; we just need to find what works for us and makes us successful.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Yatsan on April 08, 2023, 10:06:40 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
In reality, if you don't have the capability to start your own business, a job under the government will be really helpful. The salary won't be as high as with private companies but atleast you'd be compensated by less workload(since number of employees are large), complete bonuses, and insurances. A corporate job could offer you more but expect a higher level of stress and workload. Ofcourse a business would be better but how would you do things if you don't have the capability to do so? On my point of view, you may use stepping stones; start with a low salary for experience then fter a year move to another and demand a higher compensation; a cycle. Then once you have the savings to be used on investment, that could make a change. It all takes time.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 08, 2023, 10:14:56 PM
Both the human population and its needs are growing. A nation's government cannot possibly provide for and accommodate all the financial, social, and economical needs of all of its residents at once. They won't be able to meet up in some areas because of the growing resident population. It is therefore advisable to not entirely rely on the government to take care of all your needs. Because the government cannot give everyone a job. That's why you should become involved in any lawful business or expertise that can help you pay your bills. The government can only offer what it can, therefore you will have to take responsibility for the remainder by finding work that will enable you to exist in a large country with fierce competition.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: lionheart78 on April 08, 2023, 10:16:11 PM
Anyone who has creative thinking can create a source of income without government assistance. Many people are just lazy to take initiative when it comes to earning.  They wanted to be spoonfed which makes them dependent on the government to create a job for them.

Earning opportunity is everywhere, one proof is the services created by different people during the pandemic.  The assistance of buying items of a family in return for some tips or payment for service.  Offering maintenance services from laundry to home cleaning.  And if skilled, can open a service such as aircon maintenance, computer maintenance, gadget repairs etc.  

There are lots of ways if only we are willful enough to go through different challenges and difficulties in order to earn money for living.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 08, 2023, 10:19:22 PM
OP, the action you took is what entrepreneurs do; they don't wait for things to be done but rather get things done. In my country, there is no government job that pays up to $2500 unless for senators. So the best thing to do is start something like a business or learn a skill, not just wait until you get a job. With a good skill or even by starting a good business, you can earn more money than some civil servants. The only thing that is so beneficial about a government job is that after retirement, when a person is old and can not stress so much again, the person is entitled to receive a pension until they die.

In my country, if you are running your own business and have staff that are working for you, you will have more time than someone who is working for the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Coyster on April 08, 2023, 10:35:55 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Unemployment rate has gone so high around the world post covid, when the pandemic was at its worst many businesses and companies either had to lay off staffs or shut down their establishment, this led to a spike in the rate of unemployment, especially in the underdeveloped countries that were already suffering from a high rate of unemployment pre covid.

Having said that, in my country unemployment and underemployment is a very big problem for us, university certificates are no longer enough to guarantee you a job, and even if it does there is a high chance that you would be underpaid. Thus what most of the population is doing now is to start businesses, learn skills, add a side job to their main job, etc, just basically looking for an extra source of income. Our government over here have always been corrupt, so we do not expect anything good from them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Woodie on April 08, 2023, 10:43:28 PM
I know for sure that the government is the biggest employer in most countries, but unfortunately not everyone will be employed by them because some skills professions will never be required  by them and are best used for private to use to serve  the public.  Besides if you are after bigger pay checks i believe you are better off in the private sector were you are above the minimum wage by far.

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Without government job we can survive
Of course,  people  have survived  in the past and we doing it today and people will survive without them in the future.

Anyone waiting on the government to provide him or her with a white coler job is wasting his own time.
Even as a graduate, you need not wait for the government to earn a living for your self.

Agreed,  the sense of entitlement is what actually  keeps people unemployed,  people need to get creative with whatever new skills they have developed to survive if possible major into something new that will guarantee that it will help you pay some bills and bring some money into your bank account.



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Unbunplease on April 08, 2023, 10:45:30 PM
Anyone who has creative thinking can create a source of income without government assistance. Many people are just lazy to take initiative when it comes to earning.  They wanted to be spoonfed which makes them dependent on the government to create a job for them.

Earning opportunity is everywhere, one proof is the services created by different people during the pandemic.  The assistance of buying items of a family in return for some tips or payment for service.  Offering maintenance services from laundry to home cleaning.  And if skilled, can open a service such as aircon maintenance, computer maintenance, gadget repairs etc.  

There are lots of ways if only we are willful enough to go through different challenges and difficulties in order to earn money for living.


Usually, if the state provides help, then it asks well for this help. Businesses have to go through a lot of inspections, draw up a lot of documentation, and prove that all the budgetary funds were spent as intended. It is also possible that you will have to bribe government officials.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: romero121 on April 08, 2023, 11:03:39 PM
Education and experience were the tool with which one can survive. When one have the proper education he/she should think of making his life. Whether it is done through the government or by his/her own will make themselves understand what is loss/win in life. Even now people feel comfortable with the government employment opportunity, because the government can't relieve the employee if something wrong have happened in the economy.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: uneng on April 08, 2023, 11:13:17 PM
In my opinion without government there aren't jobs, because the jobs industry needs a friendly government with friendly policies and regulations to be healthy and prosperous. A country which encourages independent and small businesses is likely to become the destiny of many entrepreneurs who look for this kind of atmosphere to settle down, consequently warming the local economy and creating new jobs opportunities.

On the other hand, when the government is hostile to entrepreneurs, charging abusive taxes and creating bureaucracy for those who want to work, this country is going to lose interest from businessmen as a potential realm where they can start their activities, therefore local citizens are going to have a hard time finding opportunities for a living. When this happens, one of the only alternatives left is the internet for earnings.

As we can see, government's decisions are totally crucial on the sucess of the economical life of a country and its citizens.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: karmamiu on April 08, 2023, 11:40:39 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.

But if you just mean that we shouldn't wait for the government to provide us with proper job, I totally agree with you. Be the master of your own fate. And I wish you all the best regarding your business.
Job opportunities are government's responsibility and grabbing those opportunity is your responsibility. I have to agree that you can survive somehow without working in the government, but surviving without the government? I don't think that's possible. You can build business all you want, but you cannot guarantee that there is security while you are doing that kind of business even if it is a clean business. First of, you are like selling in the wrong area and that area I mean is like you are selling in a secluded place without people. Second, who would want to negotiate with someone that isn't sure if it can be trusted or not? Or is the transaction genuine or fake? Even black markets have rules to follow, so how much more something without government and laws to follow? Nobody would want to compromise if the merchant isn't guaranteed to offer good business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: MiF on April 09, 2023, 06:15:09 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Well, government really make a lot of opportunities but not all of us are lucky to get that job opportunities there are billions of people in one country so it is possible that we cannot avail the opportunity created by the government, but we can still creat our own way yo earn there is a lot of small businesses that can give us profit like popcorn business, or any fast food business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: irhact on April 09, 2023, 07:11:39 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you need a straight forward answer then it's a yes, we can survive without government creating jobs but that'll make it very difficult since the private sector can't create enough job to satisfy the inflow of job seekers in a country which is why for a governments to have a successful reign in office, creating of job has to be on their agenda or they have failed their citizens. Job creation is very easy for the government to do than the private sectors.

Government has access to resources that will make job creation easier like capital to build industries, locations to establish those factories etc but for a private sectors to have all that available, they have to spend so much from their pocket that might kill the project before it even starts.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: gunhell16 on April 09, 2023, 07:52:28 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

In reality of life, not everyone who graduates from college gets a job right away. And it's not right that because we graduated from college, we will expect the government to give us a good job because we graduated from college, but that's not always the case.

And if you now have a popcorn business, it's because you chose to do it and you had the dedication and passion to do it and worked hard to achieve what you really want in life. But not all people are like you who are hardworking and patient, most of them are lazy and don't make a way for their dreams in life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: tjtonmoy on April 09, 2023, 09:15:48 AM
People have their own personal opinions on both Government job and business. Some prefer jobs and some prefer business. If it's not a government job, then the advantage is very poor if you are not getting paid enough. Business is what we call having freedom in our space. And job is bound with rules and time frames. It may seem a bit extreme, but many prefer a constant flow of income over starting something on their own and waiting for it to be successful.
As the population is growing in a steady but fast way, we are lacking in the opportunity to join government job. So many people are starting their own business. It's no wonder that you can survive without a Government job. Even to explain it a bit more, no one in the world is on the top rich list by doing Government job. So that pretty much explains many things. But both are important based on your choice and situation.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Tony116 on April 09, 2023, 09:41:33 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you need a straight forward answer then it's a yes, we can survive without government creating jobs but that'll make it very difficult since the private sector can't create enough job to satisfy the inflow of job seekers in a country which is why for a governments to have a successful reign in office, creating of job has to be on their agenda or they have failed their citizens. Job creation is very easy for the government to do than the private sectors.

Government has access to resources that will make job creation easier like capital to build industries, locations to establish those factories etc but for a private sectors to have all that available, they have to spend so much from their pocket that might kill the project before it even starts.


You can find a job or a business without the government's help, and it is possible. But without the government, you cannot exist, the government is the one who gives us peace, the one who protects us. Without their strength, I believe your business will face many difficulties from social evils and unfair competitors.

I used to run a restaurant business, I built everything, but without the permission and management of the government, I wouldn't be able to do business with bad people. My restaurant constantly has problems from the gangsters, and without the government's intervention, I cannot be in business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: DrBeer on April 09, 2023, 10:08:40 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.



Relying on employment with the state is a specific position. I'll explain why. The state is a very bureaucratic mechanism that provides "satisfaction of needs at the minimum". Yes, in a stable state, you can count on some "stability" that the state guarantees. Let's not hide it - but being fired from public service is "you have to try" :)
On the other hand, this stability has another "side of the coin" - you cannot jump over the restrictions that are imposed by "stability". It is more difficult to build a career there (not because of competition, but because of formalities), it is not possible to dynamically change the vector of work there! Talking about creating your own business is an unsolvable question; as a rule, government officials are forbidden to engage in entrepreneurship. But I repeat once again - although the state work is more stable and guaranteed, it is much less paid and with fewer opportunities than private business. The second, of course, also has nuances - there are more risks if you build a business yourself - you yourself are responsible for everything, and you pay all the risks out of your own pocket.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: virasisog on April 09, 2023, 10:58:00 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

There are lucky countries that are being led by honest and hardworking governments but unfortunately, governments in most countries aren't reliable. They don't even value or prioritize skilled graduates so we have no choice but to look for opportunities to earn on our own.
It is better to work hard and earn without relying on the government because they can't honestly sustain their people's needs and they focus on their benefits. As much as possible, we should look for better ways to make a living.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: n0ne on April 09, 2023, 12:52:23 PM
According to the information from Forbes.com (https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/07/21/scandinavia-leads-the-world-in-public-sector-employment-infographic/?sh=e6a4d9918204) Norway holds the highest percentage of government employees. This data is taken during the year 2015. Almost eight years passed and there might be small variation. Even in the highest level it is possible to see around 70% work force is on the private sector. This is more than enough to realise that people were able to move forward as well as survive without government jobs. When it comes to government job there is less risk of losing jobs which is why most people prefer government jobs.



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: CryptSafe on April 09, 2023, 01:14:58 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

In life, there are some certain things one need to put into action before things would go as they plan or desire it to be. Yes government can not be sidelined in the economic development and growth of the society because the government are vested with the responsibility to do that but that does not mean that as a citizen or individual you would wait for the government to do everything.

In terms of employment, although the government should be up to the task in conducting recruitment exercise but it happens that these days the government are short of expectations and going by that one needs to improvise in terms of creating a job for yourself as that alone will keep you up and doing. Like the saying goes " a journey of a thousand miles starts with just a step". As an individual, there is something you can do to take in money for yourself. Being creative and productive with your skills will pay if you out them into use.

Do not wait for the government. Start doing something to save yourself.
Without government, we can survive!


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: fuguebtc on April 09, 2023, 01:15:40 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

There are lucky countries that are being led by honest and hardworking governments but unfortunately, governments in most countries aren't reliable. They don't even value or prioritize skilled graduates so we have no choice but to look for opportunities to earn on our own.
It is better to work hard and earn without relying on the government because they can't honestly sustain their people's needs and they focus on their benefits. As much as possible, we should look for better ways to make a living.

We still need the government in some issues because they are the holders of the law, and we still need the law. But for work, we should not expect them but create opportunities for ourselves.

In my country, jobs today are judged by their level of relationship and how much money they can spend. Those who have a good relationship, no matter how stupid they are, can still get a stable job; those who study well but have no money or connections cannot get a job. Society is slowly becoming corrupt, so don't expect the government to save us, but save yourself.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: GeorgeJohn on April 09, 2023, 02:14:31 PM
We still need the government in some issues because they are the holders of the law, and we still need the law. But for work, we should not expect them but create opportunities for ourselves.

In my country, jobs today are judged by their level of relationship and how much money they can spend. Those who have a good relationship, no matter how stupid they are, can still get a stable job; those who study well but have no money or connections cannot get a job. Society is slowly becoming corrupt, so don't expect the government to save us, but save yourself.
Actually employment from government is hope of someone who finishes from good school, but making analysis of how employment is been given to someone in your geographical environment by government is not fair, any government who is giving employment because of relationship had with someone is a bad government, for dispensation of activities in government to the masses or grassroots doesn't have a category or sentiment, giving employment is basically dependent on credible people who's certified or merit the requirement of the tax before getting employment, with your country kind of employment it will be difficult before hopeless person to survive. Government is like democracy, its for the people and by the people benefit from a government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Mpamaegbu on April 09, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities
This was also my miscalculation and the misconception of my parents. I've vowed that my kids won't toe that line of expecting government to provide them jobs after graduation like I expected. I'm going to bring them up with the mindset of being self sufficient and employed.

There are so many meaning gigs one can get involved in online this day and earn well without leaving one's comfort zone. For one, I will teach them online trading of any sort. So, government employment won't be a thing for them. How much does the government even pay for entry graduate level? In my country, the pay is not something anyone should be proud spilling here.

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on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Kudos to you for taking the bull by the horns. This is how every graduate should think. They don't have to wait endlessly for a government job that may not even be available. At least you know how much profit you earn and can juxtapose it what government could've been paying you were you in its employment.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Cling18 on April 09, 2023, 03:41:51 PM
As people who have been to school, we must be independent, don't blame the government too often, let them focus on the programs that have been designed, and we must be creative, complaining won't change our lives, take real action right away, even if it looks like a small thing.

One mistake that some people are continuously committing which is also the reason why most of them can't get out of the yolk of poverty is that they blame everything on the government. Even if the government is doing its job to sustain its people, it can't support us our whole lives s we still need to grind and make money through our effort and hard work. We can't succeed if we will just rely on the government which also relies on the taxes of its citizens.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bestcoins1 on April 09, 2023, 04:02:27 PM
Well, government really make a lot of opportunities but not all of us are lucky to get that job opportunities there are billions of people in one country so it is possible that we cannot avail the opportunity created by the government, but we can still creat our own way yo earn there is a lot of small businesses that can give us profit like popcorn business, or any fast food business.
Because there are many people who have to have jobs and that is the part that everyone wants in the country, the government clearly cannot accommodate everyone to be placed into government agencies. Moreover, those taken to be placed in government agencies are also selected based on state regulations so that justice is seen even though only a few people are taken. So it's clear in this case that every person or citizen must have their own business if they want more income for themselves.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: YOSHIE on April 09, 2023, 04:16:35 PM
Make money and a better economy, you shouldn't, work in government, what you are doing is right and right to improve your economy and your family, trade / business.
Example:
I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Actually entrepreneurs or people who are successful in doing business, most of them are not from government employees, many of them are not highly educated, only high school, but with patience, confidence, really they can achieve better success.

You trade business is the best as far as I know, you are the boss, you are an employee and you can determine your own economy, you manage all of that, working in government you cannot achieve well economically, like someone who is successful in trading.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on April 09, 2023, 04:26:13 PM
Government job is not necessary because nowadays there are lots of people who don't have any government job but they are still alive. People prefer government job but I don't think that a person is depended on government job.

In some countries there are limitations of age for government job therefore if a person is jobless so before reaching certain age he can try to get another job or he can also setup a business. Nowadays there are so many individuals who don't have government job and they are involved in other alternatives ways still they get huge amount of income.

Government job is best opportunity for everyone to live their life happily but as there are lack of job so a person should not waste a time and should engage in something other to get benefit from it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ichsan ardi on April 09, 2023, 05:04:48 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

It's true that even after graduating from university, we don't guarantee ourselves that we will get a good job because there are fewer and fewer jobs every day, sometimes we have to start from our own business without waiting for jobs from the government, we can make already selling and other things while getting the best job.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 09, 2023, 05:34:19 PM
The number of government jobs is becoming less. Present government is focusing and investing govt's money on making people skilled. In the case if country's people become skilled then we don't have to depend on Government job. Nowadays private sector employee have more opportunities to improve
their job and income better then government employees. I would rather say life begins when someone decides not to look out for government jobs. ;) ;)


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ancafe on April 09, 2023, 05:53:55 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
The government's role has indirectly provided security around your place of business, you can never survive if access to where is not guaranteed by them, so indirectly the government's role has been going according to what you don't know. If the government has to provide all jobs for the people, then I don't think they will be able to do it and their task is not only in this area, but providing a sense of security and access for us to open a business is enough.

The role of individuals is also very decisive in finding ways to create jobs, both business as you run and other jobs that we can do according to skills, waiting for full access from the government will make us late to start and we cannot fully depend on access such as This, if life wants to be better then make changes that start from small things.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: cryptoknightt on April 09, 2023, 06:26:09 PM
that is a very good step because actually college graduates cannot guarantee that we will get a decent job, the main goal of schools and even going to college is not to get a job but to study there are thousands of graduates of higher education because of that competition to get a job isn't it? is an easy thing, not even a few people use "dirty ways" to get a job
starting a business is one of the things that can be done to get out of this circle even though it has a very big risk


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Odusko on April 09, 2023, 07:43:46 PM
If you look at the current situation in the world, you will notice that people in the government workforce are not more numerous than those who are employed and working for themselves. The majority of citizens do not work for the government, which has greatly aided economic development. The government cannot handle everything, which is why it requires assistance from other sectors aside from the public sector.

Working for the government or not, there is some kind of correlation that benefits both parties. Paying taxes to the government in exchange for the security of your life and property, including your business. It's exactly like a batter trade. We don't need government jobs to survive; we just need to find what works for us and makes us successful.
What we need is not for government to provide 100% job for its employable citizens but for them to at least provide an enabling environment for the citizens to thrive on, there is no gain in saying how the government have failed to meet the demand of it citizens and its increasingly high population with thousands of youths graduating every year without any plan of engagement after school, but if the government can give the society adequate basic necessity and policy that will help the citizens to grow in the private sectors doing they own personal businesses that will allow for self-independent from the government.
The leaders who are obviously corrupt and underperforming have created a system that has allowed the impossibility of a working government system, so the private sector is now the hope of the last man since he will have the chance to improve and develop himself individually.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: nurilham on April 09, 2023, 09:07:09 PM
There is no problem although the government can't provide jobs for us. There are many kinds of jobs in the world, they don't always depend on the government. We also can make our own jobs, it can be the alternative, too. So, there are many alternatives for jobs if there are no jobs made by the government. Why we must be afraid, dude?

Anyway, we must change our mindset, don't just depend on the government. We go to colleges to get knowledge, so we can have many options for jobs. If you only depend on jobs from the government, it means you fail to develop your mindset during spending time in colleges.



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: TimeTeller on April 09, 2023, 09:08:37 PM
There is no problem although the government can't provide jobs for us. There are many kinds of jobs in the world, they don't always depend on the government. We also can make our own jobs, it can be the alternative, too. So, there are many alternatives for jobs if there are no jobs made by the government. Why we must be afraid, dude?

Anyway, we must change our mindset, don't just depend on the government. We go to colleges to get knowledge, so we can have many options for jobs. If you only depend on jobs from the government, it means you fail to develop your mindset during spending time in colleges.


Definitely, everyone can find a job without the help of the government.
There are so many private companies that you can go to and with better benefits.
As we have seen, most successful people built their own businesses out of scratch.
It means, without the help of anybody. It is perseverance and diligence that put them in that position.
The government can only do so much to its people, so if you have the means to find another route, why not grab it?


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: GeorgeJohn on April 09, 2023, 09:17:52 PM
The number of government jobs is becoming less. Present government is focusing and investing govt's money on making people skilled. In the case if country's people become skilled then we don't have to depend on Government job. Nowadays private sector employee have more opportunities to improve
their job and income better then government employees. I would rather say life begins when someone decides not to look out for government jobs. ;) ;)
At a point government is not ensuring that employment opportunities because they believe that anyone who finds it self in university is creative to make it living easier, what I believe in people is that we don't need depends with government either good or bad, I believe that government can our remember the poor when someone who people has her people rule, let us be creative and safe employ, it will give us chance of becoming more richer than working under section and subsection of government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Huppercase on April 09, 2023, 09:26:37 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you are a student or about to finish, please add skills to yourself, it will help you and excepmt your self from the usuall job hunting. I am not sure which country you are coming from but if you are not from US, UK, Canada, or developed European countries, you will only suffer for Job after school and when you don't have alternative skill, it will later be a regret for not having any way to earn after school. It is even better to have the skills at hand, if you have the job, that is fine and if you don't, there will be something tangible you can hold onto and you will be about starting early.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: lalabotax on April 09, 2023, 09:36:15 PM
Jobs are optional. Not everyone is able to make a balance between jobs from the government, from the private sector, and also from personal, in my opinion there should still be. it is good if we become entrepreneurs, but not everyone is capable. If they are still working with the government, then let it be, there are indeed a number of places that need people who work in the government or jobs created by the government, to serve society in general and share other jobs. so in my opinion, as long as you are still working, wherever you are, whether working for someone or the government or working alone it is not a big problem.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: nimogsm on April 09, 2023, 09:36:41 PM
Here you need to look from a different angle.It happens that a person loses his job and the state provides guarantees that he will find a job of the same or another similar one.But each country has its own situation, I cannot speak for everyone. If you manage to open your own business without outside help, this is really great, but this does not mean that absolutely everyone can do it, there are a lot of different factors.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Questat on April 09, 2023, 09:46:45 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Well, we are hoping for the government to work hard and create jobs for us but because thousands of individuals are in need every year, I couldn't really think of how to do that. That is why whether we like it or not, many people become jobless and it continues to grow if we keep reliant on the government and so we have to change that kind of mindset, we also have to help ourselves find a job without the help of the government. Besides, there are a lot of private institutions that also need workers (online or offline) for sure we have some room for them rather than being reliant on the government's aid.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on April 09, 2023, 09:51:25 PM

Being a graduate does not require you to work for the government; in fact, it is impossible for the government to offer employment options to every graduate.Indeed, individuals having the chance to work for the government are even lamenting that the scale of salary paid by the government is too low to cover their necessities, especially in my home nation.

In order to survive, the greatest option for us is to work for ourselves by engaging in any lawful business that comes to mind.I'm confident that we must always refuse offers of government employment when our businesses are successful and making a profit


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: fuguebtc on April 10, 2023, 05:47:28 AM
We still need the government in some issues because they are the holders of the law, and we still need the law. But for work, we should not expect them but create opportunities for ourselves.

In my country, jobs today are judged by their level of relationship and how much money they can spend. Those who have a good relationship, no matter how stupid they are, can still get a stable job; those who study well but have no money or connections cannot get a job. Society is slowly becoming corrupt, so don't expect the government to save us, but save yourself.
Actually employment from government is hope of someone who finishes from good school, but making analysis of how employment is been given to someone in your geographical environment by government is not fair, any government who is giving employment because of relationship had with someone is a bad government, for dispensation of activities in government to the masses or grassroots doesn't have a category or sentiment, giving employment is basically dependent on credible people who's certified or merit the requirement of the tax before getting employment, with your country kind of employment it will be difficult before hopeless person to survive. Government is like democracy, its for the people and by the people benefit from a government.

Although I don't want to blame them because we should be responsible for our own lives, shouldn't expect anyone to come to bless us. But my government is really bad at managing jobs, and that is also part of the reason why many young people today do not attach importance to education because they know that no matter how hard they try to study, they will not be valued, not as well as those with good relationships.
In the long run, I see no future for the youth of my country. But we also can't do anything else because as long as someone stands up against it, that person will hardly survive.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Pejoh Asu on April 10, 2023, 06:22:16 AM
The government really determines the welfare of citizens, by making policies the country can easily overcome poverty, of course not in an instant way for example printing large amounts of money, but with good education and inviting anyone to become investors so that the economy can improve.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: monineklutak on April 10, 2023, 07:24:57 AM
The government really determines the welfare of citizens, by making policies the country can easily overcome poverty, of course not in an instant way for example printing large amounts of money, but with good education and inviting anyone to become investors so that the economy can improve.
The role of the government is very large and therefore the right policy will give good results,
and indeed printing money on a large scale is not the right solution to overcome poverty and it will add new problems,
government needs to cooperate with various parties.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Gallar on April 10, 2023, 07:43:53 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
In my country it is also like that, many people are independent without jobs from the government. It's not that they don't want to work under the government, but the government doesn't provide many jobs. On the contrary, ordinary people and foreign nationals are the ones providing the most jobs, such as opening restaurants, shoe factories and farms.
So where is the government actually? I don't understand either, but the most important thing is that we have to be independent, because now I'm also opening my own business, even though it's not big yet, I'm proud of my current achievements.

And hopefully in the future I hope the government can be more aware of a sense of justice and a sense of advancing its people.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Farma on April 10, 2023, 08:41:29 AM
well, in one year, there are tens of thousands of scholars born from various universities. I think that the government will not create job vacancies for these people every year. although I am also a graduate, however, I chose to build my own business. besides that, the salary that the government gives to workers is not that big, but it's enough. it's just, I think people will still be looking for side jobs. On the other hand, I also continue to try to build a business based on my skills and create jobs. so many people who are successful in this way, and I want to be one of them. that way we also help the government to reduce unemployment. Additionally, there is overwhelming evidence that people can survive without government jobs, and even get better jobs. So, for people who haven't got a job yet, it's best to try opening their own business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ziskinberg on April 10, 2023, 08:42:00 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass, .
And if we come into that kind of mindset, we only make ourselves lazy. In this world, we don't have to become dependent on the government jobs offered. Instead of waiting for them to give us a job why not find our own because many job opportunities around, and sometimes we just miss them.
Very unfortunate but what I see is that most of us looking for a high-paying job that only has a few spots open while ignoring others which is apparently a good starts up while waiting. Why we should waste our time waiting for the government if there is another way in the first place?


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: noorman0 on April 10, 2023, 09:36:56 AM
If we look at the wealthiest people in the world today they are business owners. This generation are so lazy that they don’t want to build a business on their own.
Yes, that's right, and some teenagers don't have the mental skills to face competition even though they have the desire to do business. In today's increasingly competitive economy, new businesses must be truly unique to gain exposure, especially in the internet space. If someone is not famous enough or has more money to work with influencers, then he doesn't have many opportunities.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: leonair on April 10, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Business is the most independent source of income from here you will get freedom which you will not get in job. Everyone values ​​government jobs a lot and is very enthusiastic about government jobs. But I personally don't like any job be it government job or private job. Because there is no freedom here as well as there is a lot of pressure that if there is any kind of mistake in the work the office boss will scold
Your plan is right, you can earn many times more than your job through business and you will get freedom. Apart from this, you can hire others for your work, in this case, someone's employment will be developed through you.  And it will reduce the unemployment rate of the country if everyone like you thinks and starts business


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 10, 2023, 12:29:16 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Governments has a duty to help the people, but on the other hand, it's wrong to solely rely on the government in terms of our daily needs.
Yes we can survive still without the help of the government if we only know how to survive without them. The problem with most of the people is that, they are relying most of the time to the governments. There are people who are just waiting for the funds that the government will give to them.

Why expect for the government to create opportunities for you when you graduate? Are you that popular enough for them to help you? There are many graduates out there who doesn't have any job at all. In the past administration here in our country, they revised the education system years ago, and added 2 more years to study so that you can get a job after you graduate from secondary. Ending? Their plan failed, and now the families of the students are the ones who are suffering because of the additional fees that they need to pay in the school.

Point is, don't expect too much on the government. They will help you in any way possible, but don't rely on them and instead, focus on being a successful person without the help of them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Orpichukwu on April 10, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
Government owes us a duty, because we pay tasks but that does not mean we should depend on them on all things. The only essential things I believe the government owes the society is to provide social amenities. Every one who is not lazy with the little things made available in his environment can be able to make a living for him self without any form of government interference.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: BenCodie on April 10, 2023, 12:54:44 PM
The majority of people seem to think that government is a 1 or a 0. That we either have it, or not. That they are either good, or bad. Some want without it, others want it to continue on the path it's on. No one is talking about reform. People need to understand that we as people are government. If enough of us want to make a change, we should be able to unite together to make it. It is harder in some places and easier in others, however with the right strategy and planning, it should be possible anywhere.

On the topic of OP. Yes, we can survive without government...but can everyone else? Why not improve government instead of entertaining the idea that there should not be one altogether?


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Baoo on April 10, 2023, 03:49:34 PM
To begin with, the majority of governments are actually treating employees as slaves.  Regrettably, they be working whole day ( from 08h to 17h) without getting what their hard work  and time deserve. Furthermore, we cannot completely isolate ourselves from governments , they provide us a plenty of services and goods such as, free education, healthcare and the most important one is protection. It means the connection between citizens and government is necessary.

In addition to that, it is optional to be related a government job. In fact, everyone is able to start their own business in case you have skills, knowledge and enough experience. However, lots are looking for an easy and safe ways to gain money. They would rather get a low monthly salary and work day and night than take a planned risk and launch their own project. In my opinion, you will never be wealthy if you work as an employee related government. It is like helping them to increase their capital and getting in return a tiny payment comparing to their large income.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: CageMabok on April 10, 2023, 07:50:23 PM
The government really determines the welfare of citizens, by making policies the country can easily overcome poverty, of course not in an instant way for example printing large amounts of money, but with good education and inviting anyone to become investors so that the economy can improve.
In general, the government must contribute to the welfare of its citizens, but this must also be accompanied by better management of regional assets, such as in the natural resources sector. Because printing more money without distributing it to every citizen will also not change the economy for the better and the government must also have a clear goal of printing money in a certain size, because this is also a policy so that money cannot be printed carelessly by every country.

The role of the government is very large and therefore the right policy will give good results,
and indeed printing money on a large scale is not the right solution to overcome poverty and it will add new problems,
government needs to cooperate with various parties.
I think what you are saying is very appropriate because overcoming poverty is not by printing more money because money will also be used up every day and it can also cause new problems like what you mean. In my opinion, the more appropriate thing to overcome poverty in a country is to create more jobs by utilizing existing natural resources, because when everyone can take advantage of natural resources and process them into more valuable goods, that's where jobs begin to be created and the income of the residents also increases and can also be enjoyed repeatedly in their lives


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: molsewid on April 10, 2023, 09:08:50 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
All I can say is you can have a job without waiting for them, government just created for the whole country to be organized with the law that are being created. We can live without government but people will have a trouble, not all people wants a peace and lovely nights. Business will benefit if a certain country is progressing and if they are paying taxes that are not so big.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Alpha Marine on April 10, 2023, 09:26:09 PM
Yes, that's right, and some teenagers don't have the mental skills to face competition even though they have the desire to do business. In today's increasingly competitive economy, new businesses must be truly unique to gain exposure, especially in the internet space. If someone is not famous enough or has more money to work with influencers, then he doesn't have many opportunities.

It is not just about teenagers, a lot of people don't have the mental skills for competition. Doing business is hard, very hard.
It takes a lot of strength and will to be able to cope. Certain research shows that 20% of new businesses fail in the first year, 30% fail in the second year, 37% fail in the third year, and 44% fail in the 4th year.
The competition in today's economy is so high and that makes it more difficult for starts up.
If you want to start a business, you have to prepare your mental health because sometimes you'll question a lot of your choices but it will be worth it in the end.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: DrBeer on April 10, 2023, 10:48:37 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

I can give you a "beautiful" example of a country - where everyone is employed in the public sector, and where the state provides a "good standard of living for citizens" ... North Korea! :) Why ? Because there is NO any private business, except for the options when you are completely subordinate to the state. And there is "providing the state with your good standard of living." True "good standard of living" comes down to the level of SURVIVAL. But they firmly believe that they are an advanced world country, they win in all olympiads, in all disciplines, and even flew in the sun :)

The state, even in normal countries, can provide a minimum acceptable standard of living. and allow some stability, but without the possibility of development. The public sector of work has rigid boundaries. And even in very comfortable Norway, the status of a "minister" does not guarantee you anything, because there are laws on the change of power. But, in normal countries, there is an opportunity, which is guaranteed by the state, with the money of taxpayers, so that you start your own private business!


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: coupable on April 10, 2023, 10:50:19 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.


Governments cannot be dispensed with on the grounds that they are the most reliable third party, and therefore there are entire sectors of services that must be taken over by the state and cannot in any way be relinquished to the private sector. I agree with you that governments should not be relied upon to provide jobs, and that priority is given to private initiatives, and governments themselves are aware of this, and therefore they encourage investment more than they seek to monopolize the employment sector.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Mahanton on April 10, 2023, 10:56:08 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Education is highly been that recommended or simply getting some degree because we know that this isnt only a door for job opportunities but also it would really be giving out that kind of knowledge which is really far more better for those people who didnt step up on a school or having a degree.Im not belittling those people but nothing beats out if you do have that education attainment.
Also government isnt always something to get blamed if there would be no jobs offered specially on local.It does depend on how the economic situation would
play out on the place on where you do live.We know that economic status isnt something that could really be just the same on each places.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bettercrypto on April 10, 2023, 11:00:44 PM
In today's time that we have, you must be a strategic person. It is not right that we depend or rely on things from the government. Because the government only supports our citizens of a country.

   Then in reality, many people survive without government help. Just like my life, I can survive without the help of the government,
because I know that no one will help me but myself.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: arimamib on April 10, 2023, 11:12:29 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I think this is a relative parable in which people without higher education can become successful in building their business and survive. In situations like this, we meet many people who are successful in trading and opening businesses in various fields, often do not have a high educational background, but they can do all of this successfully for good reasons by having large capital as well. received full support from his close relatives in running the business.

So the main point that I think maybe we don't necessarily have to follow this principle because if we can finish our education in college then achieve that dream so that one day you will get results that you might not have expected before.

But in another pattern, if we live on the poverty line or come from underprivileged families so that we fail to achieve something, namely continuing our education in tertiary institutions, then don't despair and don't blame the government where you live. You may be destined to build a foundation of life unrelated to government or you will be working outside government circles. A person's life cycle is always changing and that is the key. Hard work and saving might be a good solution to achieve a better life in the future.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: WatChe on April 10, 2023, 11:37:43 PM
I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

You have done the right thing rather then waiting and depending on government you started your own business that is running perfectly. Business has its dominance over a job (whether government or private), in business your income goes exponentially up if you work hard. That's not the case with job, your salary will have a fixed increase no matter how much you work hard. In today's digital world there are enormous opportunities looking for us.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Strongkored on April 11, 2023, 02:44:22 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Of course we should be able to survive even without the government providing jobs, but the government is obliged to provide good security in the country so that we can start a business with the belief that we will be able to develop well and live from the business that we manage and can even provide jobs, but also not all people are suitable to be business people, that's why when they graduate they will expect jobs provided by the government and actually it is also the government's job to provide jobs for its people, if the government fails in this do not be surprised to see a high crime rate because a lot of unemployment.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: kro55 on April 11, 2023, 03:54:24 AM
...

 Yes, we can survive without government...but can everyone else? Why not improve government instead of entertaining the idea that there should not be one altogether?

The role of the government is not only to create jobs for people, but also to manage society and bring peace to humanity. You can make money without government help, but to survive, you can't live without a government role. Whether the area you live in is developed or not, whether there are social evils, everyone lives equally, all thanks to the government's efforts. Whether your business is stable or not, whether your children are fully educated or not, all decided by the government. Our society cannot exist without leaders.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: BobK71 on April 11, 2023, 06:14:02 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
To manage a country, the government has to take any decision by considering various aspects. It will never be easy for the government of a country to employ all its people. Because the government will face financial crisis. But the people of some countries are comparatively better off which are rich in natural resources. In those countries, the government is able to easily raise money by selling assets. However, this figure is not applicable for most countries. As a citizen of a country no one should depend on others. If one can depend on himself then he will never be a burden. Congratulations you are now completely independent you are not burden of your country.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Webetcoins on April 11, 2023, 06:15:33 AM
It is obviously not wise to just wait for the government to provide you with a job for you to start your practical life, you will need to do something yourself initially, and then you may try to land a government job later if you find a position that you think is suitable for you and you know that you are eligible for it, you can apply and try to get it.

What you did is what everyone should do, if one can afford it, they should probably go with a business of their own and be their own boss, and if one can't afford to do that, they should simply search for private jobs for a start.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on April 11, 2023, 06:38:10 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

I think you are referring to financial support in your business. I am not sure what country you are coming from but before the pandemic hit there were a lot of jobs in our country and also the employment rate was low, unlike now that the employment rate is high because of the recent pandemic. They really created jobs, but you just didn't notice because you were busy looking at those jobs that had high salaries because here in our country, the government has projects like road and building projects, which means it also generates employment just to fight the high unemployment rate.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 11, 2023, 06:44:04 AM
In today's time that we have, you must be a strategic person. It is not right that we depend or rely on things from the government. Because the government only supports our citizens of a country.

   Then in reality, many people survive without government help. Just like my life, I can survive without the help of the government,
because I know that no one will help me but myself.

The reality of life is that government has little part on the way we live specifically on having job. I think the only part that they do is some support for businesses to offer more jobs to people. I agree that being strategic in life is one way for us to have job and earn to support our basic needs. It all boils down to our personal efforts to survive the society that we live in today.

Of course we should be able to survive even without the government providing jobs, but the government is obliged to provide good security in the country so that we can start a business with the belief that we will be able to develop well and live from the business that we manage and can even provide jobs, but also not all people are suitable to be business people, that's why when they graduate they will expect jobs provided by the government and actually it is also the government's job to provide jobs for its people, if the government fails in this do not be surprised to see a high crime rate because a lot of unemployment.

I agree since the main job providers in the industry comes from private businesses. But still government have its function and part to make these businesses continues to strive and make people retain their jobs. The way the government handles the economy would determine how people would adapt and create more jobs when the economy is going well. This is the main indicator of how government plays their role since everything in our society has that domino effect that everything is interconnected.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: slapper on April 11, 2023, 07:01:26 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I think this is a relative parable in which people without higher education can become successful in building their business and survive. In situations like this, we meet many people who are successful in trading and opening businesses in various fields, often do not have a high educational background, but they can do all of this successfully for good reasons by having large capital as well. received full support from his close relatives in running the business.

So the main point that I think maybe we don't necessarily have to follow this principle because if we can finish our education in college then achieve that dream so that one day you will get results that you might not have expected before.

But in another pattern, if we live on the poverty line or come from underprivileged families so that we fail to achieve something, namely continuing our education in tertiary institutions, then don't despair and don't blame the government where you live. You may be destined to build a foundation of life unrelated to government or you will be working outside government circles. A person's life cycle is always changing and that is the key. Hard work and saving might be a good solution to achieve a better life in the future.
Success, it ain't always about having a fancy degree, right? Loads of folks reached the pinnacle without ever warming a college seat. But let's face it, education still packs a punch when chasing those goals. So, how do we juggle following our heart and sticking to our schooling? Can we pull off both, or is it an either-or deal?

Well, it's a personal thing, folks. Some manage to keep school and work in the air, while others gotta pick a side. The key is not to toss our dreams 'cause we think it's an impossible act. So, whether you're gunning for a PhD or crafting a business from the ground up, remember: success is in the bag as long as you stay glued to your goals and bulldoze through the hurdles that crop up.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Salahmu on April 11, 2023, 11:54:57 AM
Surely we can survive but though one of the government obligation is to provide social amenities for the people but that doesn't mean our survival is dependent on them rather people survive through venturing into one business or the other, sixty percent of the richest men in the world did not make his money through government instead they only pay taxes.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: arwin100 on April 11, 2023, 12:04:38 PM
In today's time that we have, you must be a strategic person. It is not right that we depend or rely on things from the government. Because the government only supports our citizens of a country.

   Then in reality, many people survive without government help. Just like my life, I can survive without the help of the government,
because I know that no one will help me but myself.

The reality of life is that government has little part on the way we live specifically on having job. I think the only part that they do is some support for businesses to offer more jobs to people. I agree that being strategic in life is one way for us to have job and earn to support our basic needs. It all boils down to our personal efforts to survive the society that we live in today.

Government plays a big part on economy there law set on their country is one of the reason why investor pour their money on their target countries. They also help their people to get proper infrastructure to be equip with knowledge to be prepared on the jobs which available on the market.

If no government will maintain the country I doubt that there are any investor will risk their money on that country because this is dangerous to them. No government no law regulating people and for sure many would think about crazy things because no one will stop them.

Yeah indeed it really need our effort to live or earn a living but if no businessman will come up and offer livelihood to the people in nearest places for sure people will struggle because no opportunities are available to anyone there.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: reagansimms on April 11, 2023, 01:03:12 PM
Surely we can survive but though one of the government obligation is to provide social amenities for the people but that doesn't mean our survival is dependent on them rather people survive through venturing into one business or the other, sixty percent of the richest men in the world did not make his money through government instead they only pay taxes.
Providing employment is a mandatory duty for the government, but if domestic employment is limited, The government must facilitate its citizens to work abroad. In the midst of an increasingly squeezed economy, who can wait for jobs to be provided by the government. Under these conditions, society must be super active in trying to get out of economic pressure.

They have to create their own jobs to survive, there are still many simple things that can be done if they don't have the capital to open a business. Waiting for jobs to be provided by the government is not a solution when economic conditions are falling due to the issue of recession. Whatever happens, we must be independent by starting to open our own jobs, even without assistance from the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Wong Gendheng on April 11, 2023, 02:50:44 PM
The government will do the best so that all citizens can get a job or business so that they can make them more prosperous and of course get the benefits of income tax, unfortunately economic problems are very complicated and requires a long time or process.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: CryptSafe on April 11, 2023, 04:07:51 PM

They have to create their own jobs to survive, there are still many simple things that can be done if they don't have the capital to open a business.

Yes mate your very correct. Waiting for the government to create employment is not feasible what if the  government fails to meet up with the expectations of the her citizens, what would then be the outcome? Will the citizens fight the government or otherwise? This is the reason why one must be on the productivity mindset so as to be on track.

Being creative, you can have skills that can fetch you a source of income, you can do trade to make profit. There are lots of petty street business which does not require any much capital to start up. One can get engaged in that exercise so as to survive than waiting for government job which no one knows when it would commence and even of it happens the possibility of securing a spot for yourself is just limited as they have their lackeys, cronies and family to fill up the slots available maybe just nothing or a few slot would be out for the citizenry.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Davian144 on April 11, 2023, 04:53:55 PM
The government will do the best so that all citizens can get a job or business so that they can make them more prosperous and of course get the benefits of income tax, unfortunately economic problems are very complicated and requires a long time or process.

Economic problems will never be difficult if the government can manage them very well because the economic sector is an important sector that the government needs to pay attention to in order to show the progress of its country to other countries. And for income through tax, I think this is also channeled by the government into state infrastructure and also into the assistance section for the community, both in cash and in non-cash.

Because taxes from the country must also be managed properly by the state in order to make the country prosperous and this is marked by the welfare felt by the community. So this actually won't be so difficult if it can be managed properly by the government, starting from the center down to the regions.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ajiz138 on April 11, 2023, 06:11:46 PM
Providing employment is a mandatory duty for the government, but if domestic employment is limited, The government must facilitate its citizens to work abroad. In the midst of an increasingly squeezed economy, who can wait for jobs to be provided by the government. Under these conditions, society must be super active in trying to get out of economic pressure.
The government must have a solution when jobs are no longer available and there should be another way when it is limited, whereas for those who work abroad it means there is no other choice but to choose that path so that their needs are met, now we are still seeing what percentage of the unemployed are happened in every country and even this can be a burden for the country even though I know it is the government's obligation to find a solution to the unemployment.

They have to create their own jobs to survive, there are still many simple things that can be done if they don't have the capital to open a business. Waiting for jobs to be provided by the government is not a solution when economic conditions are falling due to the issue of recession. Whatever happens, we must be independent by starting to open our own jobs, even without assistance from the government.
It would be much better for them to open their own jobs because this is the best solution when they hit a dead end and there is no need to expect the government anymore, now some economies have started to decline due to inflation and recessions that often occur but I am sure for creative people by opening a business himself he will make better what he does.

If there is no capital, there are still social media that can be developed to start a business without capital, because the internet has provided various ways about this.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on April 11, 2023, 06:58:05 PM
In my life until now and I have seen how difficult it is to get a job provided by the government, no matter how hard we try to get a high education and have a good academic degree in college. But if the state does not facilitate and jobs are not available, then the prospect of working under the government will be much more difficult.

I am more inclined to agree with the mindset that you apply, where we have to work harder to reach a much better financial stage, running a small business is much better than expecting the government to be there to provide jobs. Business is a promising job, we are the sole owner and not regulated by anyone's system.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Renampun on April 11, 2023, 07:51:57 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

I salute you who have succeeded in becoming entrepreneurs and creating jobs, you have helped many people and their families from having difficulties getting jobs now. I hope all your future business plans will run smoothly.

all students in the doctrine to get brilliant achievements so that one day they can work in government and to be honest it is a doctrine that destroys the enthusiasm of young people to create jobs and become new businessmen.

- in my city, there are still many parents who think that children who have worked in government offices have become successful, and this has become prestige in the social environment. I and my partner don't work in government but we still have money and also stable life from all kinds of efforts we do (business and side job) -



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: RockBell on April 11, 2023, 08:34:43 PM
Many people are surviving without government jobs, but while government jobs can not be compared to the private sector, where you can be fired at any time and government jobs enjoy lots of freedom, it is now even harder to get government jobs because, in my region, the majority of young people are finding it difficult to get and are pursuing programming(tech) and entrepreneurship. The main problem now is that there has not been any increase in the pay for government officials, and with inflation,  the money is not even enough to keep up with their daily needs. and the only government officials enjoying government jobs are politicians.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: cafee_orange on April 11, 2023, 10:03:21 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

having an idea or an idea is a way to defend yourself from dependence on the government, whether it's from work or social assistance from the government.
In my opinion, job opportunities from the government are very minimal to achieve one's financial freedom if he/she already has a family, but creating their own jobs is better in my opinion.
don't wait for the government to open jobs for you, but create your own jobs to survive.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: milewilda on April 11, 2023, 10:08:12 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

having an idea or an idea is a way to defend yourself from dependence on the government, whether it's from work or social assistance from the government.
In my opinion, job opportunities from the government are very minimal to achieve one's financial freedom if he/she already has a family, but creating their own jobs is better in my opinion.
don't wait for the government to open jobs for you, but create your own jobs to survive.
Never ever make yourself that heavily reliant on what government do offer or what they do specially if we do talk about on having a job or something that we could make out money.Lets not wait because if your gov't
turns out to be shitty and doesnt really care about their citizens conditions or they didnt really act out on what they should really want to be then you would be fucked up in the end.Better to find ways on your
own and never be having that waiting game kind of behavior.There are opportunities around which you could be involving with which is something that you would really be able to
add up your additional income or having your other job or your main job if you do strive up your best on finding one.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: dothebeats on April 11, 2023, 11:03:04 PM
Having a business and being employed are two completely different things. The former is a lot riskier but when it works, it pays a lot while the latter may be dependent on the socioeconomic conditions of your area and will be easier to get and achieve compared to the former. It all just depends on your skill set and what you can do to your employer. If you have a lot to offer, most probably you'll get jobs very easily. Not everyone has the business acumen to start creating their own businesses and succeed from there.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: andriarto on April 12, 2023, 02:15:20 AM
being a young person at this time is required to be creative and be able to become an entrepreneur, whatever it is the business must be able to generate money, we cannot expect the government to provide jobs. just like Handa doing popcorn business, of course you want to add more popcorn outlet branches, and you are here of course looking for sources of income from the crypto world, until finally you have several sources of income because your business is growing, so you feel financial freedom because you are at home, money is already working for you


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on April 12, 2023, 02:49:33 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

having an idea or an idea is a way to defend yourself from dependence on the government, whether it's from work or social assistance from the government.
In my opinion, job opportunities from the government are very minimal to achieve one's financial freedom if he/she already has a family, but creating their own jobs is better in my opinion.
don't wait for the government to open jobs for you, but create your own jobs to survive.

Most also of the jobs provided by government is project based meaning after the project you are now unemployed though it takes more years and unending because there are a lot of projects for the government. They are just targeting those people that are hard time finding jobs unlike those college graduates that has an edge already. They priorities construction workers that is why it is better to make your own move than wait from them


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Joshapat on April 12, 2023, 03:58:23 AM
The fact that is happening right now is that many countries do not really care about the economic conditions of their citizens, we certainly do not waste time continuing to blame the country, without the country we can live, if in our country it is difficult to find a life then looking for work in another country is a must we do.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Semar Mesem on April 12, 2023, 04:16:23 AM
Surely we can survive but though one of the government obligation is to provide social amenities for the people but that doesn't mean our survival is dependent on them rather people survive through venturing into one business or the other, sixty percent of the richest men in the world did not make his money through government instead they only pay taxes.

The most important task of the state is to provide welfare for its citizens, this is of course a tough task and takes a long time, but as long as the state is serious about overcoming the problem of poverty and increasing welfare then this can be realized.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: adzino on April 12, 2023, 05:21:04 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I guess you are trying to say that we shouldn't wait for the government to create jobs for us, right? Or are you saying that we shouldn't just depend on government/federal jobs? In both cases, you are correct tough. Relying solely on government jobs isn't the only way to survive and succeed. There aren't enough federal jobs to employ all the people and its very competitive. And equally, we shouldn't be waiting for the government to create job opportunities in the market. It's great  how you've taken matters into your own hands and started a small business that's not only providing for you but also creating employment opportunities for others. Entrepreneurship and self-employment is what actually pushes the economy forward.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: slapper on April 12, 2023, 06:00:47 AM
Many people are surviving without government jobs, but while government jobs can not be compared to the private sector, where you can be fired at any time and government jobs enjoy lots of freedom, it is now even harder to get government jobs because, in my region, the majority of young people are finding it difficult to get and are pursuing programming(tech) and entrepreneurship. The main problem now is that there has not been any increase in the pay for government officials, and with inflation,  the money is not even enough to keep up with their daily needs. and the only government officials enjoying government jobs are politicians.
Wow, private and government occupations are so different! Totally different. It's unfortunate that young people can't get government jobs. Programming and creating a business are trendy. Is there a deeper issue? Government jobs and their position in society may need reevaluation.

"The grass is always greener on the other side" springs to mind. The truth is that government workers barely make it. It's like driving a fantastic automobile that can't climb hills!

Hopefully, government workers will get raises and young people will find occupations that match their abilities and interests. Business and code may be the future!


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: TalkativeCoin on April 12, 2023, 06:09:41 AM
The fact of the matter is that more and more people who are just a little bit above average more amibictious, motivated, and most importantly, not naive, are moving away from government jobs because they:

a) know they can most likely have better income
b) don't want to be surrounded by DMV-like work ethics/co-worker profile
c) wanna try different things/opportunities in life and not be stuck at the same desk for xy years


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: DrBeer on April 12, 2023, 07:34:04 AM
The civil service is a way out for those who do not want to take risks, do not want to work hard and work hard, who do not have very high demands on the standard of living and needs. This is such a way to "hide in a shell" and isolate yourself from a more complex, but more promising life. This is neither bad nor good, it's just more convenient for someone, someone is satisfied with a "stable low standard of living", and someone is counting on a "guaranteed state pension."
Everyone chooses his own path, everyone forms his own goals and ways to achieve them. For example, I know that there are people who, from youth to retirement, work as security guards in stores, and everything suits them - the salary is not big, but they pay, you can take beer at a discount after the shift, and during the day - you can do nothing but just walk with important shopping mall view :)


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: 19Nov16 on April 12, 2023, 10:14:10 AM
The government can of course play a role in reducing unemployment, the easiest thing the government usually does is invite investors to enter, especially with the presence of the internet which creates many opportunities for employment, and if we have good intentions then we will get a good life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on April 12, 2023, 11:02:42 AM
I don't know about what is government situation in other countries but in my country its quiet easy to survive without any government Job. Our country resources are not so big to be able to give everyone government jobs. If i am not wrong there will be less than 20% who are government servant. This why we do not depend on government jobs and make our own works as a business, farming, labour work or any other skill which gives us daily income. Our country has many public or semi Govt Factories where most citizens prefer to di work there.

Now freelancing gives opportunity to web designer, graphics designer, Programmer and skill master to do work from home and our youth learning skills and i know many person personally they supports himself and his entire family through online work. I myself have no job and i am working online here in Bitcointalk to survive my family and did not faces any trouble yet. Perks are very high in government jobs , like free treatment, tours, house, pention after retirement and many more but still i will say, its easy to survive here without any government Job.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Crypt0Gore on April 12, 2023, 12:02:23 PM
I never want to work under any company or government job, I want to be someone who has his working place and makes money if you are under a boss you should understand what I am talking about. Also who dares open their working place or business if there is no security in the country? A few comments on here look like they are saying the government isn't doing anything, even if the government failed to provide enough jobs, it's way better than not having peace of mind in your home, due to the fear of getting robbed or terrorist attacks.

If your government is still providing the right security then you should be grateful, in some countries, not every family is in the right state of mind because of insecurity and wars.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on April 12, 2023, 01:02:27 PM
Op man can make a living without a government job. I believe there are many users here who are unemployed but are still managing their finances well. Whatever we call it, government must play a role in our daily lives.
You can see that the majority of people have been out of high school for one or two years and are still unemployed. Some of them joined the cryptocurrency industry, which is now their main source of income. I have a guy who doesn't even like working for the government; instead, he simply wants to start his own business, which is exactly what he did; as a result, he now owns a firm and has employees.
I've never wanted to wait for the government to hire me, which is one of the reasons I joined bitcoin/cryptocurrency when I finished from high school.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Minecache on April 12, 2023, 01:35:11 PM
I don't know about what is government situation in other countries but in my country its quiet easy to survive without any government Job. Our country resources are not so big to be able to give everyone government jobs. If i am not wrong there will be less than 20% who are government servant. This why we do not depend on government jobs and make our own works as a business, farming, labour work or any other skill which gives us daily income. Our country has many public or semi Govt Factories where most citizens prefer to di work there.

Now freelancing gives opportunity to web designer, graphics designer, Programmer and skill master to do work from home and our youth learning skills and i know many person personally they supports himself and his entire family through online work. I myself have no job and i am working online here in Bitcointalk to survive my family and did not faces any trouble yet. Perks are very high in government jobs , like free treatment, tours, house, pention after retirement and many more but still i will say, its easy to survive here without any government Job.

You can do business and search for jobs online without any government referral but without the government's help, you will not be able to do even the work you do on the forum. The government is the one who brings the internet, electricity, daily necessities... and especially security. Without those, I'm sure you wouldn't be able to do anything. So the role of government is huge, I don't want to exaggerate, but without government, we would hardly have the life we have now.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: inthelongrun on April 12, 2023, 01:37:56 PM
How much percentage government jobs in the whole employment industry? 3% or even less? That being said, it would be crazy if we are expecting our governments to hire us once we finished our degrees. There are not enough vacancies for governments to cater to all people that are looking for jobs. In my country, ordinary people without backing from influential people with links in the government have less to zero chance of getting hired. And these are even happening to some private companies.

Starting a business though is better than just being an employee. Despite being a communist country and being under tough conditions many years ago, Chinese people are business minded rather than being employed. So when China turned into a de facto capitalist country, its economy surged.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Iroh on April 12, 2023, 02:11:46 PM
The government can of course play a role in reducing unemployment, the easiest thing the government usually does is invite investors to enter, especially with the presence of the internet which creates many opportunities for employment, and if we have good intentions then we will get a good life.

The government of course could play a role in the reduction of the unemployment rate in the society. While the sound of investors coming in to invest sounds attracting and easy, the reality is that it’s not. Investors wouldn’t just invest just for the sake of it. Investors parting away with their money would expect profits in return. And if the economy and the society isn’t viable for investments, there will be no one investing anything.

The easiest thing for government to do is to first create a stable environment that has the basic amenities and utilities in place that works. Only then would the environment for economic growth would be created and then, investors would only be too happy to come in to invest.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 12, 2023, 08:28:48 PM
It is absolutely laziness and foolishness that causes a young man or woman to sit at home doing nothing, after graduating from college, in the name of waiting to be employed by the government, in this current time and age, people should begin to realize that the government can not employ everybody, and as unfortunate as this sounds, it is the simple truth..

There are alot of businesses one can set up even with a very small amount of money, and before you know it, you are already employing workers, staffs, it all boils down to the hunger to do something differently, and the determination not to relent no matter how bumpy the road gets.

Waiting for employment from the government after graduating from School, is one of the reasons why the educated are now the ones working for the uneducated.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Hamza2424 on April 12, 2023, 09:13:47 PM
Hmm, Government Job? In my country maximum of the young people try to get it almost the case is similar in all countries but the acceptance ratio here is too low because Government has not had much to offer the young generation, County is going through a great crisis it's hard for the Government to handle their own expenses in such critical times how can a young person even expect to get Government Job also there are not many opportunities for the digital skills.

Governments offer old-time jobs such as teaching, Military, Police, and Some other white-collar jobs such as Doctors and pilots etc etc.  This is not good because currently, this is the digital services era and our people are missing it out just because Government is not providing facilities so now a maximum of young people are trying to get out of the country and find some opportunities which are not good for the future economy of Pakistan.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on April 12, 2023, 09:45:00 PM
It is absolutely laziness and foolishness that causes a young man or woman to sit at home doing nothing, after graduating from college, in the name of waiting to be employed by the government, in this current time and age, people should begin to realize that the government can not employ everybody, and as unfortunate as this sounds, it is the simple truth..

There are alot of businesses one can set up even with a very small amount of money, and before you know it, you are already employing workers, staffs, it all boils down to the hunger to do something differently, and the determination not to relent no matter how bumpy the road gets.

Waiting for employment from the government after graduating from School, is one of the reasons why the educated are now the ones working for the uneducated.
Well, there are also educated illiterates. Some people consider thinking as too hard or too much work or they overthink and that is why they rather just work for one who does know how to think and achieve a well thought out goal/plan.
Intelligence is sexy, I must say and it attracts those with potential.
Educational qualifications has nothing to do with this phenomenon.
Anyone who can think out an idea, can make money by sticking to the idea and show courage in achieving that idea, will have workers line up for paychecks, either because they want to learn how he/she did it or to have an experience  of such grace.
Government wants such to happen because as we all know, it can't provide enough to fulfil the wants/needs of its masses


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 12, 2023, 10:35:51 PM
In life, don't be too reluctant in everything you do, because everyone of us later turns to be more responsible for ourselves than when we look upon someone for our help, government cannot help everyone through in making it in life at the same time, this is one of the reasons we always have an unequal distribution of people base on many criterias, we need to learn to be independent than expecting others fulfill our roles for us.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 12, 2023, 11:06:44 PM
In life, don't be too reluctant in everything you do, because everyone of us later turns to be more responsible for ourselves than when we look upon someone for our help, government cannot help everyone through in making it in life at the same time, this is one of the reasons we always have an unequal distribution of people base on many criterias, we need to learn to be independent than expecting others fulfill our roles for us.
Dont make yourself that being reliant into others or on whats been provided because time comes that we would really be needing to stand on our own feet without having those kind of aid or backups on what we do

see around, which means that we are the ones who would really responsible towards our fate if ever we do decide on which one we would be taking. Life improvement and progress would really vary on what you have
done and on what are the targets and goals that you are trying out to achieve. Government does have that role on providing some temporary aide but all theway
we are the ones who should really be seeking out opportunities which we do see that it could really give us a better life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: lixer on April 14, 2023, 02:15:21 PM
The majority of people seem to think that government is a 1 or a 0. That we either have it, or not. That they are either good, or bad. Some want without it, others want it to continue on the path it's on. No one is talking about reform. People need to understand that we as people are government. If enough of us want to make a change, we should be able to unite together to make it. It is harder in some places and easier in others, however with the right strategy and planning, it should be possible anywhere.

On the topic of OP. Yes, we can survive without government...but can everyone else? Why not improve government instead of entertaining the idea that there should not be one altogether?
There is nothing wrong with the government. It won't be there if it has no use or the economy is not benefiting with it. The problem is with the people who ran it. Maybe they are not the right people for that position. We should only wish for those people to be replaced and not for the government to disappear. People are people. They are not a government but they can unite and protest.

Hopefully those who are on top will follow their request. The title says government job, not government. Without a government I don't think we can survive as there will be no peace and no one will help the poor. If it's only about government jobs, of course we can survive without it. There are so many jobs out there which we can apply.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Supreemo on April 14, 2023, 04:09:09 PM
The majority of people seem to think that government is a 1 or a 0. That we either have it, or not. That they are either good, or bad. Some want without it, others want it to continue on the path it's on. No one is talking about reform. People need to understand that we as people are government. If enough of us want to make a change, we should be able to unite together to make it. It is harder in some places and easier in others, however with the right strategy and planning, it should be possible anywhere.

On the topic of OP. Yes, we can survive without government...but can everyone else? Why not improve government instead of entertaining the idea that there should not be one altogether?
There is nothing wrong with the government. It won't be there if it has no use or the economy is not benefiting with it. The problem is with the people who ran it. Maybe they are not the right people for that position. We should only wish for those people to be replaced and not for the government to disappear. People are people. They are not a government but they can unite and protest.

Hopefully those who are on top will follow their request. The title says government job, not government. Without a government I don't think we can survive as there will be no peace and no one will help the poor. If it's only about government jobs, of course we can survive without it. There are so many jobs out there which we can apply.
in order to maintain order, a society needs someone who will impose that order. after reading the post, i have remembered a saying i once read which is, "there is a difference between a good leader and a kind leader". in this society what we need is a good leader since a community is composed of all sorts of people with different values and views in life. the government needs someone like a hungry vulture to help his fellow countrymen seek opportunities. so i don't believe that we can survive without government, and i also agree that it really depends on the ones running the government whether they will share the opportunities with their people or pocket them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Mate2237 on April 14, 2023, 04:36:59 PM
In economics there are three elements which one of them is always leading in every society. The E is Employment. Government uses this to disappoint job seekers, and people are still ignorant of this Element. S is for Self Employed. If 95 % can create jobs for themselves then the out cry of jobs will reduce. And the last one is I and it is Investment. The last one is self explanatory. In the medival era government was creating jobs for citizens, because they where industries everywhere. But in the present days government is not ready to create jobs and employ. So everyone is on their own.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Uruhara on April 14, 2023, 05:02:02 PM
The role of the government in creating jobs for its people is indeed necessary. but it is true that actually we ourselves can also create jobs for ourselves. But the problem is that not everyone has the financial capital to start a particular business. so they still have to look for work and of course hope that there will be jobs that they can hopefully enter. if the government can properly utilize tax funds from the public. then the government can continue to build industry and absorb more labor each year. but the problem is that there are still or maybe a lot of people sitting on corrupt government benches. so that the large flow of funds that should have been built for the welfare of the people was instead used for the welfare of each of them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: trendcoin on April 14, 2023, 06:05:08 PM
I care about the laws that protect workers' rights and I think that these laws should be applied all over the world to the maximum extent, but societies where the state plays an important role in providing employment are societies that are underdeveloped in terms of development. Therefore, I want the employment of the state to be at a minimum level, except for important issues such as the defense industry and health services. I think anyone who loves their country should try to survive without government jobs. I have some harsh and pointed thoughts on this subject, but sometimes I don't want to explain them. :)


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: GigaBit on April 14, 2023, 06:20:54 PM
Everyone expected to get government job. But is it possible for everyone to get this government job? Of course not and the government can't afford it either. But one thing should be kept in mind that to keep running the wheels of the economy of a country mainly dependent on the private sector.

As much as people developed of any country, there will be more economically more stronger government. If citizen can be an entrepreneur then he does not need a government job rather he can donate enough amount to the government. If you want to do something good, it is better to depend on yourself instead of depending on government jobs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 14, 2023, 06:23:26 PM
I don't know brother from which country you are writing but in the context of my country government jobs are invaluable gems for the people of our country. I have also seen people who spend their lives only chasing government jobs. Only government jobs are valuable to them. From childhood, we have only one dream that when we grow up we have to do government jobs. If you don't do government jobs, you won't find your value among people. Even in our country government service is so valued that when looking for a girl for marriage, the girl's father first asks if the boy is in government service. But it never enters their mind that one can live well or manage a family well without doing a government job. If the entire people of a country work in government jobs, then who will work in other important positions of the country. But we are much better off without government jobs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on April 15, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
According to the information from Forbes.com (https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/07/21/scandinavia-leads-the-world-in-public-sector-employment-infographic/?sh=e6a4d9918204) Norway holds the highest percentage of government employees. This data is taken during the year 2015. Almost eight years passed and there might be small variation. Even in the highest level it is possible to see around 70% work force is on the private sector. This is more than enough to realise that people were able to move forward as well as survive without government jobs. When it comes to government job there is less risk of losing jobs which is why most people prefer government jobs.


Well, not most people, as we see from the chart in your post. Most people don't work directly for the government, and, like the OP here, they don't want to be dependent on the government's ability to provide them with job. They start businesses of their own and provide other people with job, and that's a great thing in my opinion. I just want to emphasize that that doesn't give us the right to say "We can do well without government". We can't, and I explained why in in this post of mine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448038.msg62056560#msg62056560) above.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: 19Nov16 on April 15, 2023, 02:42:59 PM
As people who have experience in life, we must be able to be independent and not depend on anything including the government, the fact that is happening is that many of the world's largest companies are currently market leaders, they start their business seriously and do not depend on the government, they can be strong because have optimism about the future of the business being managed.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: iamsange on April 15, 2023, 03:38:55 PM
As people who have experience in life, we must be able to be independent and not depend on anything including the government, the fact that is happening is that many of the world's largest companies are currently market leaders, they start their business seriously and do not depend on the government, they can be strong because have optimism about the future of the business being managed.

Not only that, companies that are already large and independent are usually also invited to cooperate by the government in developing the economic sector which can also make a country more developed. But in this case every company that is already independent has also struggled before in order to be more independent and also have to follow rules from the government in a number of matters.

Including in terms of taxes and other things so that the company can continue to stand strong enough, so it's clear that in any case you really don't have to ignore the government because the government is the authority in their respective countries and those who sit in government are also elected by the people itself so that no matter how independent the company is, there is still involvement from the government in it because without permission from the government, the company will not be able to build the building haphazardly.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: barisbilgili on April 15, 2023, 04:37:35 PM
Not only that, companies that are already large and independent are usually also invited to cooperate by the government in developing the economic sector which can also make a country more developed. But in this case every company that is already independent has also struggled before in order to be more independent and also have to follow rules from the government in a number of matters.

Including in terms of taxes and other things so that the company can continue to stand strong enough, so it's clear that in any case you really don't have to ignore the government because the government is the authority in their respective countries and those who sit in government are also elected by the people itself so that no matter how independent the company is, there is still involvement from the government in it because without permission from the government, the company will not be able to build the building haphazardly.
of course the role of government to set regulations greatly affect the running of a company.
and it's true that without working in the government we can earn much more out there but many people choose to work in the government only because of 2 things, to guarantee their future or love for the country.

but apart from that, I think working in a private company is much better for the future prospects that we will live in or even better to create a small business for ourselves than choosing to work for the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Wapfika on April 15, 2023, 04:45:42 PM
of course the role of government to set regulations greatly affect the running of a company.
and it's true that without working in the government we can earn much more out there but many people choose to work in the government only because of 2 things, to guarantee their future or love for the country.

but apart from that, I think working in a private company is much better for the future prospects that we will live in or even better to create a small business for ourselves than choosing to work for the government.
There are plenty of benefits in working in government especially once they retire. Though it will depend on what job is being offered to.  The benefits will depend on what country we are and job will depend on what place we lived in, sometimes only those who are close to the politicians in position got a chance to get hired in government. Though in the future as technology, robotics and blockchain advances the need to hire more staffs might not be needed anymore so tendency like what happening now when governments don’t hire a lot many will depend in private companies or in having their own businesses.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Negotiation on April 16, 2023, 09:32:58 AM
Whether you can survive without a government job or not, it usually depends on the individual's own mindset. But in my opinion doing my own small business is a better decision than government jo no one has to be in control here. Better to trade if you can afford it. Many more will find job resources from your organization if you are doing a job, it is very important that you are doing a job at which level, you have to do such a job in which your promotion. But the job may not be suitable for you it is easy to profit if you start a business with competence and intelligence.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Uruhara on April 16, 2023, 10:55:43 AM
As people who have experience in life, we must be able to be independent and not depend on anything including the government, the fact that is happening is that many of the world's largest companies are currently market leaders, they start their business seriously and do not depend on the government, they can be strong because have optimism about the future of the business being managed.
well i guess you are right. Because after all that can change our situation is only ourselves. we cannot always just expect help from other people including from the government. we must have a strong stance and must be able to build everything independently. But that doesn't mean we don't need the help of other people or the government. Of course in one case we need the government and other people. but if it is related to our career and business then we are the ones who fight for it ourselves. we are the ones who have to build it patiently from the bottom. We can't expect other people to change our life. but we are in full control and responsible for what happens to us. then being independent, working hard and never giving up is something that everyone needs to build a strong and opinionated personality.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 16, 2023, 11:05:33 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Huppercase on April 16, 2023, 11:10:53 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Government jobs are known to be highly competitive to obtain, but they offer exceptional compensation and benefits to citizens. After serving the government for a certain period of time, employees are entitled to receive a pension and gratuity upon retirement as a form of compensation for their service. These benefits make government jobs attractive, but they may not offer opportunities for personal wealth creation.

On the other hand, being self-employed has its own advantages which I greatly prefer. However, a major concern is that if the government does not take necessary steps to improve the economy, sole proprietorship businesses and entrepreneurship may suffer as well, this can only work in an environment of good governance.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on April 16, 2023, 11:21:05 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

If we base only on title then you are right but his point mostly is about the jobs or business that the government ain't helping like the OP cant feel the government when he put up business which I think he want some sort of support financially or in promotion. I would be difficult if there are no government for sure it is chaotic. Also we just cant feel that they are providing jobs but they are by having investors from other countries which can generate jobs


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Smack That Ace on April 16, 2023, 02:08:49 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

A nation cannot exist without a government, just like a herd needs a leader to lead and protect them all. It is true that the government cannot provide jobs for all of us, nor can it support every family in need, but their role in our lives is undeniable. Without them, without the law, no matter what job you do, you cannot do well.

It can be said that the government and the people have a close relationship with each other, the government wants to exist, and they need to be trusted by the people. On the contrary, thanks to the government, people will have jobs, be safe, and be protected by the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on April 16, 2023, 02:52:43 PM
You can surely survive without a government job as a fresh graduate, but you cannot survive without the government.
As a graduate you can apply the skills you may have acquired while on campus to create a job for yourself. You can leverage on the connections you have too to ask for recommendations to job openings.
Besides, I am of the opinion that people who should look for government jobs should be those who truly want to serve the public. If not, why would anyone want to work at a place where it feels like you are stuck.
OP, you are already doing well with the business you have started just keep at it and if you come up with innovative ideas, the government will come running towards you.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dickiy on April 16, 2023, 04:08:00 PM
As people who have experience in life, we must be able to be independent and not depend on anything including the government, the fact that is happening is that many of the world's largest companies are currently market leaders, they start their business seriously and do not depend on the government, they can be strong because have optimism about the future of the business being managed.
Yes, we shouldn't depend on the government, but we also need government support, especially in carrying out expansions in our business, such as licenses and other things that might require support from the government or local officials for business to run so that it is safer to manage the business. It cannot be denied that the government quite indirectly contribute to the development of the business that we do, if you remove some of the elements that the government actually took part in the development of your business I think it will be labeled illegal without government support.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: lizarder on April 16, 2023, 06:33:11 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
That's good because you have a plan as opposed to waiting for the government to work things out, everyone has a responsibility and ideally we should have the ability to solve it ourselves. There are many ways we can do to make our finances better and the simplicity of the business you do is one way that many people can do.

Starting a small business is far better than doing nothing to stave off unproductive old age. Our lives do not depend on other people or the government, but the presence of both can help us achieve the business we run, the government provides access to security and a proper place is an obligation, while relationships are people who will encourage our business to grow.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: summonerrk on April 16, 2023, 07:50:59 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Yes, higher education gives confidence in the future.
But the fact is that many people perceive higher education as protection. They don't think about earning money, they just study in order to do something now.
Unfortunately, I was like that at university. I was told to study - I studied, absolutely not thinking about earning. But it was possible to start thinking about your business even then.

I am glad that you have succeeded with your case.
I hope to open mine soon.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 16, 2023, 08:30:57 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction.

The government can provide jobs, that's right, but someone with a big dream cannot depend on the government job and keep waiting for it until it comes. What if it takes years before the person gets hired? In my country, there are lots of graduates who are not employed. In fact, for the masses that are graduating every year in my country, I can say that only up to 40% or less get employed. I don't know about other countries, but over here, it is difficult to get a job, and even if the government hires you, your salary, oh damn, will just solve a few of your needs (very few), although it depends on the government sector you are employed in because we know they pay medical doctors very well. It's just good for one to also get other skills that can help them explore if the government work they need is not yet available.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 16, 2023, 08:35:13 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

If we base only on title then you are right but his point mostly is about the jobs or business that the government ain't helping like the OP cant feel the government when he put up business which I think he want some sort of support financially or in promotion. I would be difficult if there are no government for sure it is chaotic. Also we just cant feel that they are providing jobs but they are by having investors from other countries which can generate jobs

Many agencies in the government also help business owners and workers by teaching how to grow the business and the desired job. In terms of finances, there are also agencies held by the government that help to support a business like ours whose main source of income is the cultivation of rice and coconuts.

You are also right that investors from other countries are one of those who provide jobs in the country which is a great help to the government and the people.


A nation cannot exist without a government, just like a herd needs a leader to lead and protect them all. It is true that the government cannot provide jobs for all of us, nor can it support every family in need, but their role in our lives is undeniable. Without them, without the law, no matter what job you do, you cannot do well.

It can be said that the government and the people have a close relationship with each other, the government wants to exist, and they need to be trusted by the people. On the contrary, thanks to the government, people will have jobs, be safe, and be protected by the government.
You are right, the role of the government is very big for investors, business owners and workers because without them there is no stable country and the development of the country will definitely not be progressive.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: gabbie2010 on April 16, 2023, 09:23:23 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Government is meant to provide enabling environment for businesses to thrive therefore you are indirectly enjoying some of the basic infrastructures provided by the same government, firstly your popcorn is powered by electricity and you can communicate effectively with your customers via mobile phone etc, thus government provision of those basic infrastructures will trigger Small Medium Enterprise to emerge in many locations thus create employment opportunities just like how you employed some people into your popcorn business imagine the number of people that will be gainfully employed if these businesses thrive in different locations across the country


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: tygeade on April 17, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
in order to maintain order, a society needs someone who will impose that order. after reading the post, i have remembered a saying i once read which is, "there is a difference between a good leader and a kind leader". in this society what we need is a good leader since a community is composed of all sorts of people with different values and views in life. the government needs someone like a hungry vulture to help his fellow countrymen seek opportunities. so i don't believe that we can survive without government, and i also agree that it really depends on the ones running the government whether they will share the opportunities with their people or pocket them.
I would say kind leader would work too, we have leaders that are neither good nor kind, we have leaders who are incompetent and also evil, when you consider that kind one sounds like a good option. Maybe the kind one will not be a good president or a leader, maybe they will suck, but the current one we have for example in my nation is not kind and evil person but he also rules the nation terribly as well at the same time.

I rather have a kind bad leader than an evil bad leader at the helm. That way while the country is going down, which it already is, at least we would have someone who would be kind to us at the same time and should be fine about it. Obviously I would much prefer a good one but there are not even options of a good one for us lately.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 17, 2023, 11:35:22 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction.

The government can provide jobs, that's right, but someone with a big dream cannot depend on the government job and keep waiting for it until it comes. What if it takes years before the person gets hired? In my country, there are lots of graduates who are not employed. In fact, for the masses that are graduating every year in my country, I can say that only up to 40% or less get employed. I don't know about other countries, but over here, it is difficult to get a job, and even if the government hires you, your salary, oh damn, will just solve a few of your needs (very few), although it depends on the government sector you are employed in because we know they pay medical doctors very well. It's just good for one to also get other skills that can help them explore if the government work they need is not yet available.

We both have the same desire to advance in life because of the hardships of life in our area like mine that almost my salary is not enough for daily expenses so i'll do all ways to earn online or in a real world . I would like to get a good position in the government but it is not possible because of my lack of education. It is also true that almost not all graduates get a job right away. That's why I don't depend on them anymore, instead is to find a way to earn.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: MinMan on April 17, 2023, 05:10:50 PM
Government plays a big part on economy there law set on their country is one of the reason why investor pour their money on their target countries. They also help their people to get proper infrastructure to be equip with knowledge to be prepared on the jobs which available on the market.

If no government will maintain the country I doubt that there are any investor will risk their money on that country because this is dangerous to them. No government no law regulating people and for sure many would think about crazy things because no one will stop them.

Yeah indeed it really need our effort to live or earn a living but if no businessman will come up and offer livelihood to the people in nearest places for sure people will struggle because no opportunities are available to anyone there.
As long as governments cut the taxes on companies that hire a lot of people, that should be fine. Imagine a scenario where you would spend a million dollars on workers and a million dollars on taxes, and the government comes to you and says double your work force and have 2 million dollars salaries, so instead of 1000 people you have 2000, and you won't have to pay any taxes. That would be good right?

You would have more workers and even more profit and even less cost because of no taxes. Governments can help the economy that way, less taxes for doing more good things, offer companies a way to get richer and pay less and allow the public to have more jobs, definitely something that will benefit everyone all together.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: so98nn on April 17, 2023, 05:27:08 PM
I think you have misunderstood the concept of government and jobs out there. Government needs to be in place because thats how the society moves in an order. Without government, who will manage the infrastructure, schemes, security, and various services that runs the entire nation smoothly.  

The world wouldn’t be connected so smoothly as we see today. Obviously there are wars, calamities but we do manage them and Government plays big role with their mesh of regulations.

Unstructured democracy would never work this fine at all.

Coming to the job, well definitely all of the above need people working for them. While on the other hand, private industrialists would create more and more as and when they need. But without any government support everything will be disoriented and won’t work. So we need them and the jobs from them for sure.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Lida93 on April 17, 2023, 06:42:14 PM
In any advanced society research has shown that government alone can't handle employment issues alone without the involvement of the private sector in tackling it. And move over, government is believed not to be a good businessman that's why in most Western countries the government  privatized most of the supposed public sectors infrastructures and establishments as a pivot to well manage unemployment surge.

Everyone has a role to play as a citizen, we shouldn't all rely on white-collar jobs when we can learn certain entrepreneur skills to assist our self and be self-employed thereafter becoming an employer of labor therefore reducing the unemployment weight on the shoulder of the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: abralzain17 on April 17, 2023, 07:18:37 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

the ideas you have can make you and other people survive, by working on products that you manage other people are able to provide life for their families without having to wait from the government. I think having ideas and ideas is more important than expecting jobs from the government. The logic is like this, if the government opens up job opportunities in general, will every applicant be accepted? So that's why in my opinion, it's better for us to create jobs ourselves to help anyone who needs a job without having to wait for it from the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Fatunad on April 17, 2023, 11:25:59 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

the ideas you have can make you and other people survive, by working on products that you manage other people are able to provide life for their families without having to wait from the government. I think having ideas and ideas is more important than expecting jobs from the government. The logic is like this, if the government opens up job opportunities in general, will every applicant be accepted? So that's why in my opinion, it's better for us to create jobs ourselves to help anyone who needs a job without having to wait for it from the government.
As an individual then its better not to make yourself that heavily reliant on what the government is trying out to give out because not all the time it would be followed and would be implemented.Its better to make
yourself that heavily that trying your best to stand on your own.We do have other options and different path for us to take without needing to wait on what they are trying out to provide because not all the times
which government could be able to follow on what they had promised out earlier or into those times on election period. Survival of the fittest would be the main concern on here, if you are that
someone who dont strive for better living and just contented on being poor then its your choice to make.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: zaki12 on April 18, 2023, 12:06:39 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I agree with you, we don't have to wait for the government to give us jobs before we can be independent. There are many ways to earn an income and achieve success in life, including starting your own business or developing the skills to offer a valued service to others as you are doing now with your popcorn business.

It is important to remember that being an entrepreneur or self-employed requires specific skills and the ability to take risks. However, with consistent study and practice, anyone can develop these skills and achieve success. You just need to be patient and consistent, I'm sure your business will continue to grow and become big.

I think not everyone who works under the government will achieve success in life. However, one must know that government jobs can also be a good choice for many people, especially those who seek stability and security in their careers. Everyone has different choices in life, and the most important thing is to choose the best path for yourself and take action to achieve their goals.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: RockBell on April 18, 2023, 06:25:47 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

the ideas you have can make you and other people survive, by working on products that you manage other people are able to provide life for their families without having to wait from the government. I think having ideas and ideas is more important than expecting jobs from the government. The logic is like this, if the government opens up job opportunities in general, will every applicant be accepted? So that's why in my opinion, it's better for us to create jobs ourselves to help anyone who needs a job without having to wait for it from the government.
While it may not be particularly simple, most regions don't even appear to have guardians like the government existing, instead, all the elected officials seem to be concerned about is their own interests and their own pockets. I can still clearly recall how during the covid 19 in my region, all that people could do was support one another. However, a very long time ago, people lost faith in the government, and there has been a serious problem with the rate of unemployment rising with a large number of recent graduates. The best we can do is to empower ourselves and start a small-scale business to be able to feed ourselves.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: HajiBagi on April 18, 2023, 06:43:24 AM
It's a waste of time to wait for the government to provide you with employment as a citizen or graduate; in my country, thousands of graduates have been unable to find employment since they graduated. Everyone in the country should, in my opinion, consider starting a business before looking for employment; regardless of how great or awful your country is, you must find something that will provide for your needs because no one can foresee the future.
You can work for the government and run a business at the same time. In fact, I've known many people who do both to ensure that their needs are met. This is because government work is not something you will do all the way to the end of your life; eventually, you will need to retire and won't be receiving a salary like you do when you're working, which is why we shouldn't rely on it for our daily needs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Mauser on April 18, 2023, 06:51:27 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Congratulations buddy for running your own successful business, probably most of us here dream of being our own business. Back in university I tried to come up with some ideas among my friends to start our own business. Unfortunately we didn't find the right idea we could agree on and nothing happened. By now I kind of accepted that I will never be my own boss and have to stick in employment the rest of my life. Which is also not a bad thing because it gives more security and less stress to worry about. So far I have always worked in the private sector and never really thought about working in the government sector. In my country the wages are much higher when working for a corporation than the government. It's better to find a job for ourselves than relying on the government to provide a job for us. 


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on April 18, 2023, 10:44:26 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

That's what I said earlier in this thread, but then realized the OP meant literally government job, like being in law enforcement, educational, medical or other governmental institutions. There are people who see working in those institutions like the only way to survive, and OP here is not one of them. All of us, we need governmental institutions and we should be thankful to people working there. But we should know that in a free world there are other opportunities, and we are free to choose them if we want.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Nwada001 on April 18, 2023, 06:05:04 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices. 
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation. 

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again. 


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 18, 2023, 10:42:14 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

That's what I said earlier in this thread, but then realized the OP meant literally government job, like being in law enforcement, educational, medical or other governmental institutions. There are people who see working in those institutions like the only way to survive, and OP here is not one of them. All of us, we need governmental institutions and we should be thankful to people working there. But we should know that in a free world there are other opportunities, and we are free to choose them if we want.

So we can really say that it is important to have a government because they give strength or development to the country as you said. I can say that I am also one of those who were given a job by the government in the lower class but somehow managed to survive. Even though I have a low education, I try to raise myself as part of the government. You are right that we have the right to choose what we want to happen.


Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices.
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation.

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again.

That's why we should really take being part of the government seriously because it is the one that provides everything for us to survive. Even if there are people in the government who do not provide good services for their constituents, let's not rely on them and let's find a way for us to survive.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: milewilda on April 18, 2023, 11:09:21 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices. 
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation. 

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again. 
It is one of the key functions of government on which providing on things which would really be needing by the society but we know that there's no such thing about unlimited positions or vacant jobs that could be offered into those jobless citizens on their vicinity + having the tough competition in between to those positions then it wont really be a guarantee that anyone could really be able to get their job.This is why
as an individual then you should really know on how to handle up yourself and be able to find or sustain yourself on these conditions.You cant always rely on whats been provided since not
all would really be entitled on getting one.This is why move on your own and find other ways as long you could make yourself benefit.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: woez on April 19, 2023, 07:03:38 PM
It is true that relying solely on government jobs for employment opportunities can be limiting, as governments may not always be able to provide jobs for everyone. One thing to know, however, is that not everyone has the resources, skills, or education to start their own business. In addition, government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: G_Besar on April 19, 2023, 07:21:25 PM
It is true that relying solely on government jobs for employment opportunities can be limiting, as governments may not always be able to provide jobs for everyone. One thing to know, however, is that not everyone has the resources, skills, or education to start their own business. In addition, government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector.

There is no stability in the level of income from private jobs, but private jobs can sometimes provide a better income than jobs in government agencies where the amount of salary is very measurable. I agree with some of the points you said that not everyone has the ability to start their own business, but that doesn't mean they can't do it using a number of methods that might be slightly different from what they're used to.

Those who do not have the resources, skills, or education to start their own business can use other means such as working with several people who have experience in a particular business field. Or they try to apply for a job at a private company to gain experience while gathering capital through the salary they receive every month, meaning they still have a way to start even though they have to go through a struggle that may be very tiring.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 22, 2023, 04:59:41 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices. 
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation. 

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again. 
It is one of the key functions of government on which providing on things which would really be needing by the society but we know that there's no such thing about unlimited positions or vacant jobs that could be offered into those jobless citizens on their vicinity + having the tough competition in between to those positions then it wont really be a guarantee that anyone could really be able to get their job.This is why
as an individual then you should really know on how to handle up yourself and be able to find or sustain yourself on these conditions.You cant always rely on whats been provided since not
all would really be entitled on getting one.This is why move on your own and find other ways as long you could make yourself benefit.
Employment powers the government sector, and the government provides and receives employment from investors. It is true that we need our own efforts so we must act and not give up on any of our plans to be a part of the development of our constituency.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: MoonOfLife on April 22, 2023, 05:30:57 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Zilon on April 22, 2023, 06:59:11 AM
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Sole proprietorship to me is far better than government jobs. The only advantage government jobs has is the pension that comes after all the active years in service which can also be made available through private pension schemes. Most people wait for government jobs because they lack the creativity to engage in personal investments.

All governments work with budget and estimates and no matter how hard they try to create new jobs they will never be enough for the masses and also some persons will as well choose to secure them for their descendants. It is rather safer to independent even if working for the government after graduation might isn't a bad idea yet a back up plan is always advised


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 22, 2023, 08:48:34 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
That's why, everything has no destiny as long as there is no government. You are right that when there is no government there will be more exploitative businessmen and criminals who will make the country more difficult.The government and the workers (jobs, businesses) are in a cycle because they both benefit from each other.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on April 24, 2023, 08:58:09 AM
It is true that relying solely on government jobs for employment opportunities can be limiting, as governments may not always be able to provide jobs for everyone. One thing to know, however, is that not everyone has the resources, skills, or education to start their own business. In addition, government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector.

I think it's not about starting your own business, for which, indeed, you need a lot of money and knowledge to be successful. You are right that government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector, but normally wages are much lower there than in some private firms, so, especially when you are young, it's worth trying to work in a firm that pays a lot right now, although there's no guarantee that it will be like that for a long time.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on April 24, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
That's why, everything has no destiny as long as there is no government. You are right that when there is no government there will be more exploitative businessmen and criminals who will make the country more difficult.The government and the workers (jobs, businesses) are in a cycle because they both benefit from each other.


Just imagine if there are no government, who will fund and build roads? Who will support us when there are typoons or other catastrophic events and many more. Even though we are sometimes criticising our government they also big roles in our world or in our place but again nobody is perfect that is why we criticize them but for sure it is in our own good only if the decision was made from not corrupt people


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: uswa56 on April 24, 2023, 11:02:27 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Yes, of course it's better than having to work in a government that is full of rules, opening your own business even though it's small is not guaranteed, but in terms of time we have freedom so that it is possible to be able to earn income elsewhere.
but all of that is more or less there, if you work for the government there is an old age guarantee while if you open your own business you have to set aside a little income for old age with your own awareness.

Just imagine if there are no government, who will fund and build roads? Who will support us when there are typoons or other catastrophic events and many more. Even though we are sometimes criticising our government they also big roles in our world or in our place but again nobody is perfect that is why we criticize them but for sure it is in our own good only if the decision was made from not corrupt people
it's true that government regulations and policies greatly affect everything in a country, but that doesn't mean we have to work for the government.
government that is free from corruption and good rules will benefit all elements for the population in the country, therefore the role of government in life is very large.
but there are some things that must be given to its citizens in accordance with the laws of a country.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: slashz9 on April 24, 2023, 01:00:23 PM
but not everyone will do business or like to do business or can do business, it's like desire if you force someone to do something they don't want then they won't do it, it's the same with jobs and other things, that's why there are so many professions in this world because all people have different goals and desires, even if at the end of the day their goal is to earn money.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 27, 2023, 05:57:34 PM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
That's why, everything has no destiny as long as there is no government. You are right that when there is no government there will be more exploitative businessmen and criminals who will make the country more difficult.The government and the workers (jobs, businesses) are in a cycle because they both benefit from each other.


Just imagine if there are no government, who will fund and build roads? Who will support us when there are typoons or other catastrophic events and many more. Even though we are sometimes criticising our government they also big roles in our world or in our place but again nobody is perfect that is why we criticize them but for sure it is in our own good only if the decision was made from not corrupt people

You pointed out what I wanted to say that they can do a lot, but we can't avoid blaming them for their shortcomings as a government. We know that corruption makes the country more difficult, so it is in our hands who we should choose to lead our government. There are many smart people in the government who are acting and helping to improve and develop the country and that gives happiness to me.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Queentoshi on April 27, 2023, 08:26:51 PM
but not everyone will do business or like to do business or can do business, it's like desire if you force someone to do something they don't want then they won't do it, it's the same with jobs and other things, that's why there are so many professions in this world because all people have different goals and desires, even if at the end of the day their goal is to earn money.
Yes, is true not everyone can do business but they a lot of organization that are not owned by the government, most people surviving today are not government workers, they are some people who just love doing business, being a boss of their whole, they do not like answering to anybody and they are doing well, they are making the money at the end of the day because that is the goal, while they are some other persons who just don't want to do business they don't want to go through that stress, so all what they want to is to be under person, as long they are getting the money is okay for them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: cryptoknightt on April 28, 2023, 01:18:31 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.

Agree, the proof is that many rich people in the world start businesses without help from the government, and not all jobs provided by the government guarantee survival


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Fara Chan on April 28, 2023, 02:11:53 PM
but not everyone will do business or like to do business or can do business, it's like desire if you force someone to do something they don't want then they won't do it, it's the same with jobs and other things, that's why there are so many professions in this world because all people have different goals and desires, even if at the end of the day their goal is to earn money.
Doing business and working does not have to be the same between one person and another, because it would be much better if there were many different businesses and jobs for each person based on their respective professions. And I think that business is not really about imposing the will of each individual, but it is more about making life more comfortable without experiencing difficulties. Because the difficulty that is often experienced by everyone is when they do not have any income in their life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: disconnectme on April 28, 2023, 02:34:19 PM
There is no way the government can provide direct jobs to everyone, the role of the government is to provide a conducive environment for businesses to strive, Maintain law and order that ensures a stable business environment, regulate and oversee industries to promote competition and prevent monopolies, provide essential public goods such as infrastructure, education, and healthcare that may not be profitable for private businesses to provide and also intervene in the market to address market failures.

The government's role is significant because  they even negotiate trade agreements and promote international trade for businesses, I think they should keep encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship so as to increase the number of small businesses which are the backbone of the job market


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: capedbaldy on April 28, 2023, 02:50:11 PM
Doing business and working does not have to be the same between one person and another, because it would be much better if there were many different businesses and jobs for each person based on their respective professions. And I think that business is not really about imposing the will of each individual, but it is more about making life more comfortable without experiencing difficulties. Because the difficulty that is often experienced by everyone is when they do not have any income in their life.
We can open business opportunities with anyone according to their respective professions, the bigger your business circle the greater the support from other business partners will bring your business success, so it doesn't matter whether you want to develop your business personally or have business partners, an important factor that we have independent income without expecting help from the government, because government promises will never be realized and they only give false hopes.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: DoverDoane on April 28, 2023, 02:53:00 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.

Agree, the proof is that many rich people in the world start businesses without help from the government, and not all jobs provided by the government guarantee survival

There are so many types of people in this world, and among them there are people who don't want to be restrained by rules and want to build their own business with enough capital and knowledge that they can succeed, and there are people with systematic personalities whose lives always have to be according to their rules. tend to be people who will work for the first person's business, so even without government assistance people will have a high enthusiasm for life to meet their needs, and outside they can be rich or affluent is another matter.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Forever101 on April 29, 2023, 02:39:50 AM
I partly agreed with what you said , I will provide some of my reasons. No one can be a successful entrepreneur without the support of the government. Many countries are not been favoured by the strict and unfriendly business laws. High tax rate is one of the factors affecting Entrepreneurial activities in most countries. People may love to be self employed, but in most cases they end up achieving non of their wishes as their are no credit facilities that can facilitate such process.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Marvell1 on April 29, 2023, 03:01:15 AM
The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
That's why, everything has no destiny as long as there is no government. You are right that when there is no government there will be more exploitative businessmen and criminals who will make the country more difficult.The government and the workers (jobs, businesses) are in a cycle because they both benefit from each other.


Just imagine if there are no government, who will fund and build roads? Who will support us when there are typoons or other catastrophic events and many more. Even though we are sometimes criticising our government they also big roles in our world or in our place but again nobody is perfect that is why we criticize them but for sure it is in our own good only if the decision was made from not corrupt people

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Uruhara on April 29, 2023, 03:58:24 AM
I partly agreed with what you said , I will provide some of my reasons. No one can be a successful entrepreneur without the support of the government. Many countries are not been favoured by the strict and unfriendly business laws. High tax rate is one of the factors affecting Entrepreneurial activities in most countries. People may love to be self employed, but in most cases they end up achieving non of their wishes as their are no credit facilities that can facilitate such process.
Yes Maybe it is. But the bottom line is that the role of the government or government policy always influences small entrepreneurs in the country. Increasing tax rates, rising electricity costs and the like always affect entrepreneurs. But still, to be successful and have a decent job then everything will depend on our own hard work. and indeed we cannot completely always rely on the government. due to the fact that the number of jobs created by the government is always insufficient for the number of unemployed people who want jobs. So that we must be independent and contribute to building the economy for ourselves and the people around us. if we are financially capable people we can even build a business and open job vacancies for people who need jobs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: posi on April 29, 2023, 04:40:53 AM
There is no way the government can provide direct jobs to everyone, the role of the government is to provide a conducive environment for businesses to strive, Maintain law and order that ensures a stable business environment, regulate and oversee industries to promote competition and prevent monopolies, provide essential public goods such as infrastructure, education, and healthcare that may not be profitable for private businesses to provide and also intervene in the market to address market failures.

The government's role is significant because  they even negotiate trade agreements and promote international trade for businesses, I think they should keep encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship so as to increase the number of small businesses which are the backbone of the job market

Many unemployed people are trying to blame the government, and they think they are unemployed because of the government, because the education system has a problem. But I want to ask them, have they tried their best, or are they doing nothing and waiting for help from the government?

I agree entirely with what you said, the government can only provide a good environment and create job opportunities, and whether we take advantage of it is up to each person. The government cannot create jobs for all people, we cannot wait for them to come and give us jobs. In other words, our success depends on and is determined by us.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Lubang Bawah on April 29, 2023, 06:05:46 AM
The government plays a very important role in determining a decent life for its citizens, unfortunately many things become complicated issues for the state so that hopes for prosperity are difficult to achieve, we don't just hope to get welfare from the government, it's better to do everything the best so we can get a good life decent, if the job is difficult for us to get then we can start with a business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: gaston castano on April 29, 2023, 12:13:50 PM
You make a valid point that waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be unrealistic at times. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and create job opportunities for others. This not only benefits yourself but also contributes to the growth of the economy.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ringgo96 on April 29, 2023, 01:10:28 PM
We live in a country that already has a complete government, even though we currently work in private companies but some of our work must have government interference although not directly but the needs of our business must be related to the government, then you don't get me wrong whatever we do today is all under the authority of the government although not directly, But for ordinary jobs such as in rural areas, it is not related to the government, but only part of the work.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: RockBell on April 29, 2023, 04:04:47 PM
There is no way the government can provide direct jobs to everyone, the role of the government is to provide a conducive environment for businesses to strive, Maintain law and order that ensures a stable business environment, regulate and oversee industries to promote competition and prevent monopolies, provide essential public goods such as infrastructure, education, and healthcare that may not be profitable for private businesses to provide and also intervene in the market to address market failures.

The government's role is significant because  they even negotiate trade agreements and promote international trade for businesses, I think they should keep encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship so as to increase the number of small businesses which are the backbone of the job market
The whole truth is things have changed and there are now very few job in government organizations. The only option is to figure out and decide what decision to make, either by starting a business or learning a lucrative skill but the majority want to get rich quickly, as waiting for the government feels like a waste of time in some places where the jobs are sold and if you are not lucky, you won't get one. The number of graduates and the population have increased as well.

I believe that investing in businesses like infrastructure, e.t.c., requires significant capital to build. When you want to start a business, you should make sure that the product has a high level of demand as well as a modest starting capital, and you should also factor in potential losses.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dalib on April 29, 2023, 04:20:19 PM
There is no way the government can provide direct jobs to everyone, the role of the government is to provide a conducive environment for businesses to strive, Maintain law and order that ensures a stable business environment, regulate and oversee industries to promote competition and prevent monopolies, provide essential public goods such as infrastructure, education, and healthcare that may not be profitable for private businesses to provide and also intervene in the market to address market failures.

The government's role is significant because  they even negotiate trade agreements and promote international trade for businesses, I think they should keep encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship so as to increase the number of small businesses which are the backbone of the job market
The truth is that things have changed and there are now very few job opportunities in government organizations. The only option is to figure out what you want to do, either by starting a business or learning a lucrative skill, as waiting for the government feels like a waste of time in some places where the jobs are sold and if you are not lucky, you won't get one. The number of graduates and the population have increased as well.

I believe that investing in businesses like infrastructure, e.t.c., requires significant capital to build. When you want to start a business, you should make sure that the product has a high level of demand as well as a modest starting capital, and you should also factor in potential losses.
With the decreasing number of job opportunities in government organizations and the increasing number of graduates and population, it is essential to think creatively and take a proactive approach to achieve one's economic goals. One way to do this is by starting a business or learning a lucrative skill, as waiting for the government to provide opportunities may not be practical or fruitful.

When starting a business, it is crucial to consider several factors like potential demand, modest starting capital, and possible losses. However, it is also important to think long-term and consider the potential for growth and profitability in the future. For example, investing in infrastructure or developing new technologies may require significant capital initially but can yield significant returns in the future.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 30, 2023, 03:59:40 AM

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development  and peace to the country.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Sir Legend on April 30, 2023, 04:07:35 AM
Many people blame the government too much when the government is deemed to have failed to fulfill what they want, we must realize that the government's burden is very heavy so we must think and act smartly to get a better job or income, especially now it's very easy to get any information because almost everyone is connected to the internet.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on April 30, 2023, 04:26:06 AM

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development  and peace to the country.

That is really good but its better if the leaders are more into people like they are listening to people like building roads, bridges as it can generate profit both people and government. Also they shouldn't be corrupt because that is really the problem starts because it should be used for development for the people and for the country. People should be first rather than the improvement of country like military and etc


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Marvell1 on April 30, 2023, 09:53:42 AM

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development  and peace to the country.

That is really good but its better if the leaders are more into people like they are listening to people like building roads, bridges as it can generate profit both people and government. Also they shouldn't be corrupt because that is really the problem starts because it should be used for development for the people and for the country. People should be first rather than the improvement of country like military and etc

I don't know how governments in developed countries treat people, but in 3rd world countries to say that the government is not corrupt is impossible. Because everyone is human, everyone has greed and wants a luxurious life. Many politicians always say nice things when they start running for office, but after achieving their goals, they never do what they say. They don't care about people and are only greedy for themselves. Honestly, I know the role of the government, and there is no way against them because they have all the power in their hands, but I no longer believe what they say.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: chrisculanag on April 30, 2023, 09:59:08 AM

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development  and peace to the country.

That is really good but its better if the leaders are more into people like they are listening to people like building roads, bridges as it can generate profit both people and government. Also they shouldn't be corrupt because that is really the problem starts because it should be used for development for the people and for the country.
You are right, because when the leader is like that, many projects will be built and many jobs will be given, above all, the country will gradually develop. Corruption is what makes the country poor, so if they put honest service in their hearts, the result will definitely be good. The people voted for them so they should serve the people honestly.

People should be first rather than the improvement of country like military and etc
They can do it together because they have their own funds set aside for the country. We also need to strengthen our military bases because this is what will help the country and another so that we can have peace of mind that no one will invade our territory.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on May 01, 2023, 08:07:04 AM
You make a valid point that waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be unrealistic at times. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and create job opportunities for others. This not only benefits yourself but also contributes to the growth of the economy.

Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Wend on May 01, 2023, 02:59:51 PM
Many people blame the government too much when the government is deemed to have failed to fulfill what they want, we must realize that the government's burden is very heavy so we must think and act smartly to get a better job or income, especially now it's very easy to get any information because almost everyone is connected to the internet.

Blaming is a part of human nature, most will never admit their mistakes and correct them, they will find ways to blame others when they fail. This will mostly appear in the losers.

I agree with many that the government has not been able to fulfill its responsibility to us. But we also need to understand that managing hundreds of millions of people, billions of people is not an easy thing. Therefore, mistakes are inevitable.

Our life should be decided by us, instead of relying on others we should find a way to save ourselves.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: imamusma on May 01, 2023, 03:30:18 PM
Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.
Having my own business without relying on jobs paid by the government is much better in my opinion. I agree that it can contribute to the economic growth of a country, but in some countries jobs provided by the government are the main target for graduates. But of course starting a business is always faced with the risk of failure which is likely to be the main thought of graduates so they tend to want to work in jobs provided by the government.

Regarding business development, it is possible for businessmen who have previously been successful with their old businesses. They do so easily because they have capital, while they may not be very influential if the new business in the end fail. Being the boss of your own business is far better than being dependent on the government, but not everyone has that for many reasons.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 01, 2023, 03:43:17 PM
Waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be indeed frustrating and unrealistic. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and have now even employed others.

To say the fact it's bot going to be everybody that will work under government or be self employed, the two varies a d we are the ones to create the balance between them, if you're unemployed and have been looking for job without getting any offer, then try to employ yourself a d be self employed, create something valuable to do, e gage your time in developing quality things to help your career, train yourself and learn skills, maybe that's where your own opportunity is than waiting on government to employ you.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: huu78 on May 01, 2023, 04:04:20 PM
You raise a valid point about the limitations of waiting for the government to provide all the necessary resources and opportunities for its citizens. While the government has a role to play in creating a conducive environment for economic growth and job creation, it is important for individuals to take responsibility for their own lives and livelihoods.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Abu-Naim on May 01, 2023, 04:30:34 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
The challenge is that some governments are completely unsupportive; instead of adding physical education to the school curriculum so that it will be supportive before creating job opportunities for their graduates, they failed to do so, and as a result, citizens wait until the government creates employment opportunities for them. Some people can live without jobs in the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Vaskiy on May 01, 2023, 05:18:36 PM
You make a valid point that waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be unrealistic at times. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and create job opportunities for others. This not only benefits yourself but also contributes to the growth of the economy.

Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.
The best thing about the participation of private ventures to provide job opportunity is the responsibility and the maintenance. The services will be offered at an additional pay compared to the public sector. This is the scenario in the third world countries. Businesses always contribute to the economy, but the government's focus will be to grow specific private firms. This is kinda eating the public money and the private ventures profiting out of it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on May 01, 2023, 05:22:34 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do. 

This is true because if we wait for government job and do not participate in other activities of earning so in this case we will become unable to earn money. The population is increasing day by day and government cannot provide jobs for everyone so its up to us to do something else to earn money and make our lives easy.

The way you talk about success is really good because as I have experienced there are large population of the world who don't have any government job but they earn a good sum of money. We think that if we don't get government job then we will be useless but it's wrong people can earn anywhere by doing any other type of job and government job is not necessary, setting a business is also a basic thing for making daily and monthly income.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on May 01, 2023, 06:41:35 PM
First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.
Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Pujangga on May 02, 2023, 09:25:09 AM
First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.
Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.


Government job usually doesn't take too much time, maybe only 5 days a week so the remaining 2 days or when we get home from work we can use it for other things such as working online, don't rely too much on one source, if possible then more sources are safer because many unexpected things can happen in our life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on May 02, 2023, 09:33:44 AM
First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.
Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.


Government job usually doesn't take too much time, maybe only 5 days a week so the remaining 2 days or when we get home from work we can use it for other things such as working online, don't rely too much on one source, if possible then more sources are safer because many unexpected things can happen in our life.

What he meant is that it is very stable than others, meaning if you got a permanent position there you'll be in government with a lot of benefits and a huge salary (depending on the position) which is also less work but sometimes busy, though that side hustle is a must also for just having another source of income but stability at work is really best because the government wont collapse unless the country got fall because of the debts. But yes if you got into government you'll future is already secured and even your retirement.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: slapper on May 02, 2023, 12:16:15 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.  

This is true because if we wait for government job and do not participate in other activities of earning so in this case we will become unable to earn money. The population is increasing day by day and government cannot provide jobs for everyone so its up to us to do something else to earn money and make our lives easy.

The way you talk about success is really good because as I have experienced there are large population of the world who don't have any government job but they earn a good sum of money. We think that if we don't get government job then we will be useless but it's wrong people can earn anywhere by doing any other type of job and government job is not necessary, setting a business is also a basic thing for making daily and monthly income.
Saying "be your own boss" and expecting to make bank is easy, but being your own boss isn't. Entrepreneurship? Full of challenges: financial, intellectual, and interpersonal. Not everyone has the same potential for success. Business-building? Requires exceptional talent and personality. However, not everyone has one. Certainly, we need fiscal management, not just handouts from the government. But don't disregard the entrepreneurial minefield and try to simplify things too much. Let's create a society that recognizes the importance of government jobs while also applauding achievement.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on May 05, 2023, 06:33:33 PM
First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.
Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.


Government job usually doesn't take too much time, maybe only 5 days a week so the remaining 2 days or when we get home from work we can use it for other things such as working online, don't rely too much on one source, if possible then more sources are safer because many unexpected things can happen in our life.

What he meant is that it is very stable than others, meaning if you got a permanent position there you'll be in government with a lot of benefits and a huge salary (depending on the position) which is also less work but sometimes busy, though that side hustle is a must also for just having another source of income but stability at work is really best because the government wont collapse unless the country got fall because of the debts. But yes if you got into government you'll future is already secured and even your retirement.
In government jobs realistically you don't have big salaries  but you have alot of facilities like medical , education benefits,  transportation and stuff so you will have many perks . Plus on retirement you will have a good golden handshake for your future so government job is must for your stability.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: erep on May 06, 2023, 12:07:27 PM
I agree that higher education should prepare individuals for their future and enable them to contribute to society in meaningful ways. While there is nothing wrong with aspiring to work in the government, it is important to recognize that the government cannot provide jobs for everyone, and individuals should also be encouraged to develop entrepreneurial skills and pursue other avenues for employment and contribution to society.
We are required to have higher education even without expecting job opportunities from the government, see everyone is successful in entrepreneurship because they have higher education and are successful in building personal businesses, so expecting jobs from the government is only optional but entrepreneurship according to expertise will create new business opportunities and even you can open job vacancies for other people, so the educational factor is very influential to be more creative in getting personal job opportunities.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Kelward on May 06, 2023, 12:29:01 PM
Government can not do everything for it's citizens, because it has it's hands full providing and maintaining basic amenities, protecting the territorial integrity of the country, maintaining law and order in the country. Governments can not provide jobs for every citizen of the country, except those that will carry out the civic duties mentioned above.

So without these government jobs, we can survive conveniently. There are uncountable trades and professions out there that we can survive on. Although the government needs to provide an enabling environment for businesses to function and grow.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: AicecreaME on May 06, 2023, 12:40:23 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

I disagree.

Society can't function without the government, and not all of the people have the privileged to be self-employed on something that pays well to put food in their table. There's a lot work that the government does, however it is true that they are mostly not solving major problems in different countries, that's why a lot of people suffer.

You can't say that people starve because they are lazy, not all of us has a good pay grade, for example, farmers here in my country are poor because the Government are not supporting them very well.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Wildwest on May 06, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
I think your thinking makes sense, because nowadays there are many successful people who don't work for government agencies but they create private businesses that can make money and work freely without any regulations from the government, but now we live in a country that already has government, then every job we do has a relationship with the government, but what we need to know is that our own business is a better job to be able to get maximum success, and we have the right to arrange everything that is not suitable for us.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: benalexis12 on May 06, 2023, 02:40:24 PM
For me, if the government of a country has a program to help its citizens, that is good, but for an individual to depend on the government for his life is one of laziness that can be considered wrong. Even so, we should still obey whatever laws or ordinances our government enforces as law abiding citizens. Then I was able to survive without the help of the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ningrum on May 06, 2023, 02:55:02 PM
For me, if the government of a country has a program to help its citizens, that is good, but for an individual to depend on the government for his life is one of laziness that can be considered wrong. Even so, we should still obey whatever laws or ordinances our government enforces as law abiding citizens. Then I was able to survive without the help of the government.
That is why the importance of synergy or cooperation between the government and its citizens,
because if you only rely on one party, of course it will only be temporary,
the government needs to make the right policies regarding this problem while its citizens also keep trying, that would be good.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ivankoh on May 06, 2023, 03:50:23 PM
Governments can make and promulgate good ideas and things for their citizens, but government apparatuses at all levels will not live up to their expectations or deliberately misrepresent those aspirations - they need to participate. That's why there will be bribery. Without any action to implement the related work policies of the government I am of the opinion that human nature is to work and exist in any way, people will do other things without any any relationship with them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: nara1892 on May 06, 2023, 04:07:46 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do. 

This is true because if we wait for government job and do not participate in other activities of earning so in this case we will become unable to earn money. The population is increasing day by day and government cannot provide jobs for everyone so its up to us to do something else to earn money and make our lives easy.

The way you talk about success is really good because as I have experienced there are large population of the world who don't have any government job but they earn a good sum of money. We think that if we don't get government job then we will be useless but it's wrong people can earn anywhere by doing any other type of job and government job is not necessary, setting a business is also a basic thing for making daily and monthly income.
It's a cinch to blurt out "be your own boss" and rake in the dough, but let's face it, it ain't that easy-peasy. Entrepreneurship? Full of hurdles: capital, learning, connections. And, folks, not everyone's born to be a mogul. Business-building? Needs special skills, unique traits. Not everyone's got them. Sure, we need financial control, not just government handouts. But don't oversimplify, ignore the entrepreneurial minefield. Let's forge a world that cheers on go-getters while admitting government gigs matter in our lives.
Indirectly, the government's role will continue to exist regardless of whether we expect it or not.
Conditions like this clearly still have to happen. We only stick to the initial context about the government and the jobs they provide. But on the other hand, even though that is indeed one of their duties, of course there are some more things that we must understand, that they are also trying to stabilize something else.
I try to think more positively about this because indeed in this case it should be like that. We can't expect too much because they also know their limits and I think even with a high price for government salaries the problem will not be solved in the end, even though like that I prefer to depend on myself even though there is certainly some assistance from the government whether it's from the infrastructure or something else but I try to stand up with the strength I have.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: |MINER| on May 06, 2023, 04:08:44 PM
Of course why not ! If we see that around of us how much people are doing government job? If we look carefully, it will be seen that the number of people working in private or business is more than in government jobs in all countries. It is true that a government job gives an extra guarantee and one can get more facilities, but I think one should at least start a business instead of sitting in the hope of getting a government job. Because the number of government job seats are very less so we have to create our own opportunity.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bestcoins1 on May 06, 2023, 04:34:43 PM
Government can not do everything for it's citizens, because it has it's hands full providing and maintaining basic amenities, protecting the territorial integrity of the country, maintaining law and order in the country. Governments can not provide jobs for every citizen of the country, except those that will carry out the civic duties mentioned above.
The task of the government within the country is to make the country prosperous through infrastructure development and also through economic growth by providing land for markets that are more suitable for use by every citizen. Because the government cannot provide work for each citizen individually, the duty of the citizen is to work alone on the land provided by the government, such as utilizing market land that already exists in the surrounding environment.

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So without these government jobs, we can survive conveniently. There are uncountable trades and professions out there that we can survive on. Although the government needs to provide an enabling environment for businesses to function and grow.
The task of the government is indeed only to provide a market environment that can be utilized by its own citizens, because the duty of citizens is to move to make the market come alive so that they have jobs that can make them earn an income in their lives. So in this case there is no reason for anyone to blame the government if the infrastructure already exists and can be utilized.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Z390 on May 06, 2023, 05:04:44 PM
Nothing, I repeat, nothing will work without the government involvement in every country, if you think that the government is not doing anything in your country maybe because the government is not providing enough businesses and jobs for their citizen you are thinking wrong.

Because the government provides security for everyone, and believe me, security is very crucial, imagine trying to do in your business and some criminal come by and take over your goods and properties how can you run a business again ?

even if you have the money to repurchase the goods that was stolen into your store how are you going to confidently sit down and sell your stuff and wait for customers? You will be scared to leave your home, it's not going to happen that is why I believe that the governments have a big part they playing in the life of the Citizens.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on May 06, 2023, 06:04:06 PM
Nothing, I repeat, nothing will work without the government involvement in every country, if you think that the government is not doing anything in your country maybe because the government is not providing enough businesses and jobs for their citizen you are thinking wrong.

Because the government provides security for everyone, and believe me, security is very crucial, imagine trying to do in your business and some criminal come by and take over your goods and properties how can you run a business again ?

even if you have the money to repurchase the goods that was stolen into your store how are you going to confidently sit down and sell your stuff and wait for customers? You will be scared to leave your home, it's not going to happen that is why I believe that the governments have a big part they playing in the life of the Citizens.
Yes, that's true and it is the government's obligation to protect its citizens, each color of the country has its own thing about the country and it must be given by the state.
but apart from that, right now the meaning is to work or expect a job with the government, aren't they still going to live and make money in other ways without having to expect a job provided by the government of a country.
the answer is of course you can, there are many ways that we can do without having to depend on the government even though we still really need government policies.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 06, 2023, 06:26:54 PM
Many people blame the government too much when the government is deemed to have failed to fulfill what they want, we must realize that the government's burden is very heavy so we must think and act smartly to get a better job or income, especially now it's very easy to get any information because almost everyone is connected to the internet.

By right, I think anyone who has graduated from a higher institution is entitled to a job immediately after they graduate. My grandpa used to tell me that about 30 to 40 years ago, it was not really difficult to get a job as a graduate; sometimes the government picked students immediately after their senior secondary school and would train the students for a higher degree, but even these days, it is difficult to easily get a government scholarship. Some times I used to wonder what has really changed: is it that the population now has multiplied by fifty or more from what it was then, or is it because the value of money has dropped so drastically? Back then, my local currency had more value than the dollar, but today the dollar has soured. Well, what I am saying in essence is that since the government work is not coming as quickly as one would expect, the only solution is to think of something reasonable to do. If possible, starting a business or learning a skill would be better.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Bobrox on May 06, 2023, 07:56:34 PM
I don't think yet without government job we can survive, need controlling or manage about countries management where government is the highest controlling for their people become better. I can't imagine what happen when one community without any leader yet and have chance with criminal cases about the stronger will easy how to get full controlling what they want.

Right now, government have contribution in economic side by helping their citizen how to make transaction to the other country, with bilateral relations we can make deal as influence or businessman import and export without any problem yet because government help us trough bilateral relations with the other countries.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bayu7adi on May 06, 2023, 08:27:51 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Indeed, we can venture into entrepreneurship, but let us not forget that a business's success is largely dependent on the owner's performance. Take, for instance, a popcorn business you establish, where your income is significantly influenced by the quality of your entrepreneurial skills. The better you are at maximizing opportunities and potentials, the higher your potential payout. Your income could potentially skyrocket if you dominate the market and expand your business.

In contrast, government-allocated jobs come with fixed salaries that do not fluctuate. There's a slim tolerance for pay changes, perhaps ranging from only 1% to 10%.

The government still requires both workers and entrepreneurs, as these two elements complement each other in maintaining the country's economic stability and ensuring its normal functioning.Never be afraid to fail in your career - there are still plenty of ways to make more money than just working. The key is to never be lazy and always keep striving for success.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: rhodelmabanal on May 06, 2023, 09:12:08 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I think you already answer your question, you already survive without a government employment job, there are a lot of opportunities even if government will not provide any job there are a lot of private business company that needs worker and you can apply on them, but the best way to earn is through business just like what you did even if it is a small business you will earn huge profit on it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: umbara ardian on May 06, 2023, 09:58:01 PM
Government employment can provide benefits and job security, but relying solely on government to create job opportunities is not always realistic. So I think individuals have to be proactive and create their own employment opportunities through business or other means. This can be a risky challenge but with hard work and dedication it can be a rewarding experience.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on May 08, 2023, 09:37:01 AM
Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.
Having my own business without relying on jobs paid by the government is much better in my opinion. I agree that it can contribute to the economic growth of a country, but in some countries jobs provided by the government are the main target for graduates. But of course starting a business is always faced with the risk of failure which is likely to be the main thought of graduates so they tend to want to work in jobs provided by the government.

Regarding business development, it is possible for businessmen who have previously been successful with their old businesses. They do so easily because they have capital, while they may not be very influential if the new business in the end fail. Being the boss of your own business is far better than being dependent on the government, but not everyone has that for many reasons.

Yes, this "being your own boss" mantra, I hear it all the time. And after witnessing many of failed attempts I feel like I should be warning people about possible negative consequences. People that open their own business and fail talk like "Why did I do this? When I was working for a firm, I could afford not thinking about my work during holidays. I had no debts. Only now I understand how happy I was."

We are all dependent on many things anyway. It's only illusion that opening a business of your own make you independent.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Paul Pogba on May 08, 2023, 10:28:51 AM
The government certainly has a very important role in improving the national economy by creating or absorbing productive age workers, sometimes the government looks very disappointing because it cannot meet everyone's needs, but we have to think smart because nowadays there are many job vacancies that we can easily access on the internet, it's even easy for us to work abroad after the presence of the internet.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Uruhara on May 08, 2023, 10:35:35 AM
Government employment can provide benefits and job security, but relying solely on government to create job opportunities is not always realistic. So I think individuals have to be proactive and create their own employment opportunities through business or other means. This can be a risky challenge but with hard work and dedication it can be a rewarding experience.
Correct. that's what we have to do. We must strive to be independent without having to rely on assistance from the government in providing jobs. But I know that the most common obstacle for someone to build a business is limited capital. And this is always a complaint for most people. In fact, many of them have reliable skills in a job but again they have difficulty building an independent business due to limited capital. it's just that as long as we keep trying then I'm pretty sure there will always be opportunities.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Patrol69 on May 08, 2023, 11:16:24 AM
Every country has high class people to low class people.  God has kept everyone good, be it high or low. You have a business where your income is 1000$ every day from your business or you are performing the duties of a government official where your income is 100$ a day a small grocery shop where his income is 10$ a day or a street vendor who ferries all day earns like 1$  but all of them  living life  All are good according to their position. 

I got a lot of education and I didn't get a government job because I got education, so I'm not a failure in life. Apart from government jobs there are many other jobs in which people are doing better than a government employee. Or many are creating their own employment without waiting for jobs with their educational qualifications. We should never think that we cannot achieve success in life because we did not get a government job.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dr.Osh on May 08, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Of course why not ! If we see that around of us how much people are doing government job? If we look carefully, it will be seen that the number of people working in private or business is more than in government jobs in all countries. It is true that a government job gives an extra guarantee and one can get more facilities, but I think one should at least start a business instead of sitting in the hope of getting a government job. Because the number of government job seats are very less so we have to create our own opportunity.
well, there's plenty of evidence of this. besides that, there are very many entrepreneurs, and businessmen who are outside the jobs offered by the government, they even cooperate with the government for their country. However, there are so many types of jobs out there, if you don't get the job that the government offers, try to find a job elsewhere, or create your own business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ebede on May 08, 2023, 10:50:50 PM
It is really understandable that without government many people has been surviving so considering the the job of government they will know that government of our days does not provide a job for people people survive I don't believe that government can give 100% job to people before they will survive on Earth before now during the ancient time people has been surviving without employment but through a trade by barter the changing of good by good


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: iphone5s on May 10, 2023, 10:54:12 PM
Government employment can provide benefits and job security, but relying solely on government to create job opportunities is not always realistic. So I think individuals have to be proactive and create their own employment opportunities through business or other means. This can be a risky challenge but with hard work and dedication it can be a rewarding experience.

Many successful people do not only have profit opportunities from one side only. they have more than 1 business that they manage without you realizing it in the future. if you only depend on one business, maybe you will be dizzy and confused with the finances that continue to increase in the future.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Kadal Ijo on May 11, 2023, 07:37:33 AM
At first I thought that everything had to be resolved and became the responsibility of the government, but after I was an assistant to government staff it turned out that government problems were very complicated and needed many parties to solve them. work then the best step is to trade or farm.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Onyeeze on May 11, 2023, 02:19:49 PM
At first I thought that everything had to be resolved and became the responsibility of the government, but after I was an assistant to government staff it turned out that government problems were very complicated and needed many parties to solve them. work then the best step is to trade or farm.
Government is complicated depends for the rulling class of that time, their is someone who will assume power and people will like government but when people working him misbehave they will be an automatic sanction directly to the person or the sector, i want to tell you that government can make our living to be easier but when bad people assume office citizens find it difficult to survive by having the mindset of having small entrepreneur mindset of establishment.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Joshika on May 12, 2023, 05:34:05 AM
The government jobs are very demanding and consuming as also private job, infact, earning money has always been a tough job and as regards to be a successful in life, well, that may depend upon with their attitude, behavior skills, educational competence and an attitude to perform. the government job provides us many facilities which was beneficial for lifetime but we have to work under the government and should follow all the rules and regulation. I think we should not wait for government job only we have many opportunity to start our own business and be your own boss.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Joshapat on May 12, 2023, 09:47:23 AM
Many people are successful when difficulties occur, as long as we are willing to be active in trying and always think optimistically then everything we do can be successful, when conditions are difficult of course the country will focus on more important issues such as maintaining economic stability, politics, education and so on.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on May 12, 2023, 10:34:38 AM
The government jobs are very demanding and consuming as also private job, infact, earning money has always been a tough job and as regards to be a successful in life, well, that may depend upon with their attitude, behavior skills, educational competence and an attitude to perform. the government job provides us many facilities which was beneficial for lifetime but we have to work under the government and should follow all the rules and regulation. I think we should not wait for government job only we have many opportunity to start our own business and be your own boss.

It seems easy to say to start a business immediately so that you'll be your own boss, but it is difficult to do if you don't have the capability mentally or financially to do it. Also, with government jobs, I would say that it is the least stressful job that I've ever had because you can do it in your own time and not be busy about it. There is no monthly performance evaluation; if there is, it can be easily manipulated. That is why it is very stress-free to have a job there, but the consequence of that is that you don't grow, you don't acquire new skills, and you feel stagnant there.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: woez on May 12, 2023, 05:06:52 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

My view of the assertion that individuals can survive without government jobs too much seems to oversimplify the complex economic and social dynamics that underpin our society. While individuals can create their own businesses and become self-employed, this is not always a viable option for everyone.

The reality is that many people rely on government jobs as a steady source of income and benefits, especially in sectors such as education, health and public safety. Nonetheless, it is quite possible to succeed as an entrepreneur without government support. As you have done, namely starting a popcorn business and have been successful and now you have spread your investment wings.

You are cool. This is a testament to the power of innovation and hard work.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Bushdark on May 12, 2023, 07:27:37 PM
Of course why not ! If we see that around of us how much people are doing government job? If we look carefully, it will be seen that the number of people working in private or business is more than in government jobs in all countries. It is true that a government job gives an extra guarantee and one can get more facilities, but I think one should at least start a business instead of sitting in the hope of getting a government job. Because the number of government job seats are very less so we have to create our own opportunity.
well, there's plenty of evidence of this. besides that, there are very many entrepreneurs, and businessmen who are outside the jobs offered by the government, they even cooperate with the government for their country. However, there are so many types of jobs out there, if you don't get the job that the government offers, try to find a job elsewhere, or create your own business.
Why must we even depend on job from the government when we can even create jobs for ourselves and employ people to work for us within the government interfering. I don't see the need for to get attached with the government for us to get job or create jobs when there raf private enterprises available we can collab with and get things do as quick as possible if the terms and conditions if meants.

 There are so many jobs available in the street but most are for skilled workers and educated ones. We have to a degree or better still get a skill that will make us to earn and create our own businesses for a better society.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Raflesia on May 12, 2023, 07:45:18 PM
The government jobs are very demanding and consuming as also private job, infact, earning money has always been a tough job and as regards to be a successful in life, well, that may depend upon with their attitude, behavior skills, educational competence and an attitude to perform. the government job provides us many facilities which was beneficial for lifetime but we have to work under the government and should follow all the rules and regulation. I think we should not wait for government job only we have many opportunity to start our own business and be your own boss.

It seems easy to say to start a business immediately so that you'll be your own boss, but it is difficult to do if you don't have the capability mentally or financially to do it. Also, with government jobs, I would say that it is the least stressful job that I've ever had because you can do it in your own time and not be busy about it. There is no monthly performance evaluation; if there is, it can be easily manipulated. That is why it is very stress-free to have a job there, but the consequence of that is that you don't grow, you don't acquire new skills, and you feel stagnant there.
Sometimes theory alone isn't enough in this case and indeed as you say, it's easy enough to say things like that, but basically when this is done the work is even if we can't manage it properly then everything won't turn out right.
Doing business is indeed a very good thing, but the problem is that when we talk about doing business, we also know we have to have the qualifications there. and doing it directly without having real qualifications in business is clearly the same as suicide because of the fact that we need more learning in this matter because we are of course aware that everything without careful planning and without more knowledge about that field will only make things difficult for ourselves in the end .


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Obari on May 12, 2023, 09:44:27 PM
Good luck to you but I also think in more civilized countries like the USA, the government  has already provided all that it's citizens  truly needs and I'm sure they might not understand  why most underdeveloped countries keep crying  for government assistance  and it seems we now pray to God  for things the government  ought to provide.

Yes there are proves that we can survive  and even do very well without government  jobs but I think life in general would have been  much more easier for people in countries  like mine and yet we still  battle with insecurity  and if you'll agree with me, you'll see that no matter how much business oriented you are, without a secure and enabling environment, all ones idea might like just die with him and citizens in my country now ask for only good light and better road and we are ok and add a sound national security and watch how the citizens wouldn't have to bother them again but they choose to embezzle public funds and let the poor masses suffer.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: blockman on May 12, 2023, 10:04:55 PM
There are so many jobs available in the street but most are for skilled workers and educated ones. We have to a degree or better still get a skill that will make us to earn and create our own businesses for a better society.
Degree is like having another chance but being skilled is what most employers preferred. Here in my country, most employers require a degree but the salary is minimum so that doesn't change much with the reality these days. While the ones that haven't finished a degree but are skilled, they're earning more than those white-collar jobs. I am not discouraging people to stop their studies and just start working on. It's still good to have a degree but those that can't finish their degrees, they can learn skills and focus on it and that's what they have to offer for their employers and can earn better salaries.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Rockstarguy on May 12, 2023, 11:49:17 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
You don't really need to wait for the government for job but this doesn't mean we don't need government. Apart from jobs their are opportunities the government needs to be available to make things easy for people to create jobs for themselves. In a place where no constant light or a better means of transformation the people can't do magic by creating jobs for themselves but they will always depend in the government for job. If the government can provide the basic things, people can always create something that will generate income for them without depending in the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Chilwell on May 13, 2023, 01:41:58 PM
At first I thought that everything had to be resolved and became the responsibility of the government, but after I was an assistant to government staff it turned out that government problems were very complicated and needed many parties to solve them. work then the best step is to trade or farm.

We as humans forget things easily, most of our parents that spent on us during school are not governments civil servants, but we nowadays don't like to hustle but want to become rich person. There is one thing we don't know about white-collar jobs is that can never get rich through work and in the end, they end up as a street beggar.

This analysis is based on country, in my place, the number of graduates we are having every year is almost 2 million graduates and this is happening every year. The funny part is that the people with a white-collar job are not up to 2 million and the worst part these people will spend 35 years in services before they can be replaced.

People can survive without white collar job


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 13, 2023, 02:51:10 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass, 

No offense, but let me ask you: does the government in your country come out any day to announce that you should be reluctant after graduation? Do they make any serious promises to the citizens, telling you guys not to worry about anything and that they will make all provisions and create jobs for every youth or graduate?

Even in my country, sometimes the government only comes out to make an announcement like, "They will employ 20,000 youths; at times they say 30,000, 50,000 and so on" but they don't do that so often.

As long as the government does not ask us to keep waiting for them, it's not for us to just keep waiting on them; it's good to have a highly motivated personality. Don't wait for things to get done; stand up for yourself and begin to get things done.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Rabata on May 13, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
You don't really need to wait for the government for job but this doesn't mean we don't need government. Apart from jobs their are opportunities the government needs to be available to make things easy for people to create jobs for themselves. In a place where no constant light or a better means of transformation the people can't do magic by creating jobs for themselves but they will always depend in the government for job. If the government can provide the basic things, people can always create something that will generate income for them without depending in the government.
Yes indeed, it is not possible for the government of any country to provide government jobs to all the unemployed in a country. However, there are some countries where the unemployment rate is very low. But if the government and the people trust each other then it will be very easy to improve the country. The people of that country will try to be self-reliant than seeking government jobs. This environment is an important issue. Although people are interested in government jobs, people will prefer to depend on themselves if they get a suitable environment. A successful entrepreneur can lead a much better life than any job.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on May 13, 2023, 06:23:21 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

OP relying on the government is just something we like doing but if we remove our mind from getting things to be done by them [government] we would even provide things that we need without thinking of how good or bad they [government] are.
Let's take for instance, Bitcointalk has done so much for so many people in this Forum and is like an empowerment, some may not know how this has helped users in this Forum to equip them self in different businesses with out saying "the government are not doing there job or not providing employment".
I feel so happy when I see or hear that this is what I did with the help of this Forum [Bitcointalk]. With all these we can do better than waiting for the government to something for the public to survive. Let's continue preaching Bitcointalk to as many as possible to be independent.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: fadhilz123 on May 13, 2023, 11:15:44 PM
Government employment can provide benefits and job security, but relying solely on government to create job opportunities is not always realistic. So I think individuals have to be proactive and create their own employment opportunities through business or other means. This can be a risky challenge but with hard work and dedication it can be a rewarding experience.
Usually a job in a government agency is only enough to meet a person's needs in a month so that person will take a very long time to grow to become rich, unless his monthly salary is very large because he is placed in a certain position that is better with a bigger position. That is why most government employees in many countries still want to work independently to continue to increase their income in life even though they can also live without having to work anymore because they already have a monthly salary through government agencies.

Many successful people do not only have profit opportunities from one side only. they have more than 1 business that they manage without you realizing it in the future. if you only depend on one business, maybe you will be dizzy and confused with the finances that continue to increase in the future.
It is also very natural that everyone wants to have more than one business. Because if the business is different, of course the level of income is also different and those who have more than one business can also get extra comfort in their life if both businesses are very advanced and they are also no longer afraid of losing in one of them because even if they lose in one of the businesses, they can immediately cover it with other businesses. That is why it is always better to have more than one business and that is a very natural thing because the level of profit and income will be greater.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: naira on May 13, 2023, 11:43:06 PM
Usually a job in a government agency is only enough to meet a person's needs in a month so that person will take a very long time to grow to become rich, unless his monthly salary is very large because he is placed in a certain position that is better with a bigger position. That is why most government employees in many countries still want to work independently to continue to increase their income in life even though they can also live without having to work anymore because they already have a monthly salary through government agencies.

As we already know, even though their income in one month can be sufficient for more than 2 months, it doesn't mean they stop looking for other income. The point is, from our point of view, we can only survive every month. But for them, the bigger the expenditure, the higher the income must automatically be. Facilities to support work, personal transportation, increased taxes and family expenses as well as a better lifestyle. No one really reaches the threshold of satisfaction.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Uruhara on May 14, 2023, 02:40:12 AM
Usually a job in a government agency is only enough to meet a person's needs in a month so that person will take a very long time to grow to become rich, unless his monthly salary is very large because he is placed in a certain position that is better with a bigger position. That is why most government employees in many countries still want to work independently to continue to increase their income in life even though they can also live without having to work anymore because they already have a monthly salary through government agencies.

As we already know, even though their income in one month can be sufficient for more than 2 months, it doesn't mean they stop looking for other income. The point is, from our point of view, we can only survive every month. But for them, the bigger the expenditure, the higher the income must automatically be. Facilities to support work, personal transportation, increased taxes and family expenses as well as a better lifestyle. No one really reaches the threshold of satisfaction.
So true. And basically the more income one gets can also encourage someone to have a lifestyle that also increases. Which will also automatically make expenses which are also getting bigger. So that many of us may have a large income but in fact it still cannot make us satisfied and even we tend to feel lacking. So that developing other businesses and looking for side jobs to get additional income is often done.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: puloweh555 on May 14, 2023, 01:24:36 PM
Usually a job in a government agency is only enough to meet a person's needs in a month so that person will take a very long time to grow to become rich, unless his monthly salary is very large because he is placed in a certain position that is better with a bigger position. That is why most government employees in many countries still want to work independently to continue to increase their income in life even though they can also live without having to work anymore because they already have a monthly salary through government agencies.
It's true that working as a government employee doesn't make us rich, but why do so many people still want to become government employees? Because the most valuable thing for government employees is a lifetime pension guarantee, even if they are widows/widowers they also get pension insurance and their first and second children also get it if they are not yet 25 years old. (this is what happened in my country)

While it is true that the salaries of government employees are generally sufficient to meet their daily needs and not enough to save or invest with existing income. So it's only natural that as a government employee you have to be smart to find additional income to become rich.

In essence, not all government employees have to rely on a monthly salary alone to achieve financial success. As a government employee, you must be smart about using your free time to run a side business or involve yourself in investments that can generate greater profits.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: cryptoknightt on May 14, 2023, 09:20:24 PM
Anyone waiting on the government to provide him or her with a white coler job is wasting his own time.
Even as a graduate, you need not wait for the government to earn a living for your self.
You can start up any small business gradually you can make it big while you still search for government job.
Waiting for government for provision is a total waste of time.
I have seen business billionaires who are graduate, without waiting for the government they started their own small scale business and today they are doing so well.

That's right, we can't wait for the government to give us jobs, we have to prove that a job getting from the government is not the only path to success.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Mame89 on May 14, 2023, 09:53:49 PM
Anyone waiting on the government to provide him or her with a white coler job is wasting his own time.
Even as a graduate, you need not wait for the government to earn a living for your self.
You can start up any small business gradually you can make it big while you still search for government job.
Waiting for government for provision is a total waste of time.
I have seen business billionaires who are graduate, without waiting for the government they started their own small scale business and today they are doing so well.
That's right, we can't wait for the government to give us jobs, we have to prove that a job getting from the government is not the only path to success.
We should have a mindset like this. We have to be able to start with a business or looking for income via the internet can be a good choice for those of us who want to take control of our own careers and finances.

My view is that the government must indeed have the responsibility to create a conducive business climate, provide training and support for citizens who want to start a business and also that the government must be able to create jobs.

I also think relying on being a government employee to solve our financial problems is unrealistic. We need to take initiative and take responsibility for our own careers and finances. Developing skills and seeking new business opportunities can help us achieve our desired financial and career goals. I also agree with the title of this thread Without jobs our government can survive.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on May 15, 2023, 12:25:41 PM
Government employment can provide benefits and job security, but relying solely on government to create job opportunities is not always realistic. So I think individuals have to be proactive and create their own employment opportunities through business or other means. This can be a risky challenge but with hard work and dedication it can be a rewarding experience.
Usually a job in a government agency is only enough to meet a person's needs in a month so that person will take a very long time to grow to become rich, unless his monthly salary is very large because he is placed in a certain position that is better with a bigger position. That is why most government employees in many countries still want to work independently to continue to increase their income in life even though they can also live without having to work anymore because they already have a monthly salary through government agencies.

Don't forget about other perks, like nice pension, free public transport, some free medical care etc. Don't know if it's in all countries like this, but I'm sure in most of them.

So, people who choose to work independently, they take that risk, imo. Not only they can lose their job any time, compared to the stability of working for the government, but they also knowingly refuse many other bonuses.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: BVeyron on May 17, 2023, 05:59:03 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Modern capitalist education system is based on creating specialists with economy degrees, which are not really needed anywhere. But people send their children to study economy since they think that economy degree is the only way to become a millionaire. This is not true statement, but most people still believe in it :(


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Betwrong on May 22, 2023, 11:01:54 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Modern capitalist education system is based on creating specialists with economy degrees, which are not really needed anywhere. But people send their children to study economy since they think that economy degree is the only way to become a millionaire. This is not true statement, but most people still believe in it :(

I don't understand why are you saying this? Do you imply that some "communist" education system is better, or you just want to say that the Western system is bad overall?

You know it's not all true what you see on the telly in your country. ;)

Yes, without government job we can survive, but it doesn't mean that that Government jobs are bad, or that people are getting the wrong education in the West. Dictatorships brainwash their people into thinking that the whole world is wrong and you can only survive by blindly following the "Great Leader". But it doesn't work actually, does it? :)


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: @forxample on June 03, 2023, 04:49:12 PM
Usually a job in a government agency is only enough to meet a person's needs in a month so that person will take a very long time to grow to become rich, unless his monthly salary is very large because he is placed in a certain position that is better with a bigger position. That is why most government employees in many countries still want to work independently to continue to increase their income in life even though they can also live without having to work anymore because they already have a monthly salary through government agencies.

As we already know, even though their income in one month can be sufficient for more than 2 months, it doesn't mean they stop looking for other income. The point is, from our point of view, we can only survive every month. But for them, the bigger the expenditure, the higher the income must automatically be. Facilities to support work, personal transportation, increased taxes and family expenses as well as a better lifestyle. No one really reaches the threshold of satisfaction.
not only the government but everyone can do that. as long as they are able to manage their finances and can control their ego. because it is true that the higher your income, the lifestyle will increase.

the only difference is when their government has received guarantees even until their old age (that's what happened in my country), but even so as long as they are unable to manage their finances and cannot take advantage of their position when in office. then still his life will be lacking and his lifestyle cannot be fully fulfilled. and vice versa when a person is able to manage his finances, control himself and is able to take advantage of opportunities that come even without guarantees from anyone. their life will be safe and fulfilled because they can guarantee themselves.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Bitstar_coin on June 03, 2023, 05:18:15 PM
Yeah, reason why they encourage entrepreneurship during your college period. I don't know about your location but here in my country during my college days, entrepreneurship was mandatory to all final year students to prepare them for the outside world.

Not everyone will be lucky enough to get a white-collar job as they say but if you are sensible enough you have to create a job for yourself to avoid being a dependant. 
You have made the right choice and you should also work on expanding your customer base.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: mm2543363580 on June 03, 2023, 05:58:53 PM
Yeah, reason why they encourage entrepreneurship during your college period. I don't know about your location but here in my country during my college days, entrepreneurship was mandatory to all final year students to prepare them for the outside world.

Not everyone will be lucky enough to get a white-collar job as they say but if you are sensible enough you have to create a job for yourself to avoid being a dependant. 
You have made the right choice and you should also work on expanding your customer base.
Yes you can survive without a government job but it is not advisable to leave your job or to not look for government job .
Government jobs have alot if benefits along with pay packages that is a steady income in your pocket which you can have easily.  If you want to do something privately do it but also have a government job .


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Rabata on June 03, 2023, 10:54:17 PM
There are so many jobs available in the street but most are for skilled workers and educated ones. We have to a degree or better still get a skill that will make us to earn and create our own businesses for a better society.
Degree is like having another chance but being skilled is what most employers preferred. Here in my country, most employers require a degree but the salary is minimum so that doesn't change much with the reality these days. While the ones that haven't finished a degree but are skilled, they're earning more than those white-collar jobs. I am not discouraging people to stop their studies and just start working on. It's still good to have a degree but those that can't finish their degrees, they can learn skills and focus on it and that's what they have to offer for their employers and can earn better salaries.
Skill or experience plays a major role in human performance. A skilled worker is very much needed in a business organization. I think it's not just your country. It is the same everywhere in the world. But it is not only skills but education should also be adequately valued. Because I believe that a person finds fulfillment in the combination of skill and education. Both of the two things are very important. In our country a person who has both education and skills earns the good amount of money.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: loopes on June 03, 2023, 11:25:54 PM
-snip- on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
If you think you are doing it with out government support, you are wrong, in my opinion. It's government that provides you with protection from both external(those that might attack your country) and internal(those that might attack your business) enemies. It's thanks to the government you can buy the equipment without being scammed, and it's thanks to the government you can return it and take your money back if the quality is bad.
Yeah sounds good to hear that you are an entrepreneur and seems you do not need government job, even though the government doesn't directly interfere in your business, they indirectly facilitate and provide legal protection for entrepreneurs in generally including for you too. the government build protection law to guarantee you running your business. This is the result of people who are in government job in the ministry of trade (goverment also open recruiting civil servants as a movement to create jobs in government itself) 


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bluebit25 on June 03, 2023, 11:30:11 PM
We all have the ability to create our own opportunities and survive without government intervention. Creativity and individual efforts can help us achieve success and come up with solutions to social problems. A business like yours contributes to economic development and will have a positive impact on the community.
Such businesses can improve employment and help some people's finances. Self-created opportunities for economic development are necessary for the nation and it is an important part of the progress of society.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on June 04, 2023, 12:36:12 AM
I don't see the government as a set of people who care about the well being of it citizens, they just have a way of taking more and bring less. If they have their way they'd even crest their name on every money note.
Greed and selfishness won't also let them create more skill acquisition for its citizens they rather use that money to send their children abroad.
If as an individual you say you'll wait for the government to provide job and other stuff needed  then you'll wait till you get old, is best to engage yourself in something positive to help your pocket grow financially.
While some youths wait for government to do something like the provision of job and all that, it makes 95% of the youth to engage in cyber crime, why wait for no reason? Let's take the power we have to create job opportunities for us.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: flyingcarpet on June 04, 2023, 01:15:30 AM
It is wrong to expect the state to do many things for the people. The state creates the conditions up to a certain level, the rest is man's own labor. Both parties have their roles, and things can go wrong if one party fails to fulfill that role. Our working life should not be too dependent on the state, but we should not try to progress without certain rules. You say that one's own effort is valued and results are achieved. The most important thing is that the state does not interfere in a positive work that the person is trying to do and that the state can provide gaps in this way. So it's a mutual interest.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: mamesso on June 04, 2023, 02:28:38 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Creating jobs is the state's obligation to reduce unemployment in a country. The government must also facilitate its citizens who want to work abroad, from all the departure processes to the guarantee of getting a job after arriving at their destination. Not all are lucky from the jobs provided by the government and the government cannot guarantee 100% that there will be no more unemployment, you need to find solutions to solve employment problems without having to depend on the government.
Starting a personal business is one of the solutions you can do to survive, I think most people out there have made the same decision as you. Learning to be independent by hiring other people is a pride for yourself, even though the business you are building is still relatively small, you are the boss.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: xSkylarx on June 04, 2023, 06:41:16 AM
We all have the ability to create our own opportunities and survive without government intervention. Creativity and individual efforts can help us achieve success and come up with solutions to social problems. A business like yours contributes to economic development and will have a positive impact on the community.
Such businesses can improve employment and help some people's finances. Self-created opportunities for economic development are necessary for the nation and it is an important part of the progress of society.

When talking about job we cant really rely on government as we can really found jobs from private sector but again government has laws that can make everything fair because without it for sure you have very low salary and you cant also say that they increase it as there are no regulations on it. Government is really big factor to everything but again finding a job we should do our own to find it as the government will not feed it to you


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Blowon on June 04, 2023, 07:12:57 AM
I think we can still live from micro-enterprises or become freelancers because now there are many choices. Well, maybe what I understand is that according to you, jobs that come from the government are jobs that have a lot of salary. but that still can't be a benchmark because there are many types of jobs in this world, I'm sure even without jobs from the government we can still survive.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: nur rochid on June 04, 2023, 07:41:09 AM
We all have the ability to create our own opportunities and survive without government intervention. Creativity and individual efforts can help us achieve success and come up with solutions to social problems. A business like yours contributes to economic development and will have a positive impact on the community.
Such businesses can improve employment and help some people's finances. Self-created opportunities for economic development are necessary for the nation and it is an important part of the progress of society.

When talking about job we cant really rely on government as we can really found jobs from private sector but again government has laws that can make everything fair because without it for sure you have very low salary and you cant also say that they increase it as there are no regulations on it. Government is really big factor to everything but again finding a job we should do our own to find it as the government will not feed it to you

if we have expertise in a certain field, I think we can survive as private workers or self-employed, and many have proven that their income can exceed jobs in government. we cannot rely on it, and for me by being self-employed we will be able to support the country's economy, even though in my country being a government employee is in great demand, especially for those who are fresh graduates. From here, what needs to be done is to improve their mentality so that they don't just rely on being government employees, because young people have to be able to work


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Bitcoin2009 on June 04, 2023, 01:08:36 PM
The government can certainly make an important policy and can be accepted by everyone, for example by providing capital assistance to people who have the potential to become business people, then provide ease of payment methods so that they can help the people to advance and develop.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on June 04, 2023, 01:18:08 PM
We all have the ability to create our own opportunities and survive without government intervention. Creativity and individual efforts can help us achieve success and come up with solutions to social problems. A business like yours contributes to economic development and will have a positive impact on the community.
Such businesses can improve employment and help some people's finances. Self-created opportunities for economic development are necessary for the nation and it is an important part of the progress of society.

When talking about job we cant really rely on government as we can really found jobs from private sector but again government has laws that can make everything fair because without it for sure you have very low salary and you cant also say that they increase it as there are no regulations on it. Government is really big factor to everything but again finding a job we should do our own to find it as the government will not feed it to you

if we have expertise in a certain field, I think we can survive as private workers or self-employed, and many have proven that their income can exceed jobs in government. we cannot rely on it, and for me by being self-employed we will be able to support the country's economy, even though in my country being a government employee is in great demand, especially for those who are fresh graduates. From here, what needs to be done is to improve their mentality so that they don't just rely on being government employees, because young people have to be able to work
that's very true and even I really like work that is not tied down, like doing business or trading, in my opinion if we work as entrepreneurs it is possible for us to continue to improve, there are many things we can do with our own innovation.
but it's all full of risks, inversely proportional to working in the government who always receive a salary every month.

the choice lies with oneself, there are people who like challenges so they choose to be entrepreneurs and there are also people who want a secure position so they choose to work for the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ayers on June 04, 2023, 02:48:08 PM
We all have the ability to create our own opportunities and survive without government intervention. Creativity and individual efforts can help us achieve success and come up with solutions to social problems. A business like yours contributes to economic development and will have a positive impact on the community.
Such businesses can improve employment and help some people's finances. Self-created opportunities for economic development are necessary for the nation and it is an important part of the progress of society.

When talking about job we cant really rely on government as we can really found jobs from private sector but again government has laws that can make everything fair because without it for sure you have very low salary and you cant also say that they increase it as there are no regulations on it. Government is really big factor to everything but again finding a job we should do our own to find it as the government will not feed it to you


Yes, we should find jobs on our own, not depend on others or expect someone to give us a job. But to say the government doesn't provide us with jobs is not true, because the businesses you are working for are all licensed and run by the government. The government has taken advantage of relations through diplomacy, creating conditions for foreign investors to invest in the country, thereby creating indirect jobs for people. Without the government, no company or corporation would be allowed to build and operate in our country. So governments not only play a role in creating justice, they are integral to the survival of the businesses we work for. Although they have inappropriate policies that make us unhappy, it must be admitted that we cannot survive without them.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: imamusma on June 04, 2023, 03:01:16 PM
Yes, we should find jobs on our own, not depend on others or expect someone to give us a job. But to say the government doesn't provide us with jobs is not true, because the businesses you are working for are all licensed and run by the government. The government has taken advantage of relations through diplomacy, creating conditions for foreign investors to invest in the country, thereby creating indirect jobs for people. Without the government, no company or corporation would be allowed to build and operate in our country. So governments not only play a role in creating justice, they are integral to the survival of the businesses we work for. Although they have inappropriate policies that make us unhappy, it must be admitted that we cannot survive without them.
I won't even deny this fact because after all the government also has a stake in the economic growth of its citizens. As you mentioned, even though we have our own business capitalized on personal budget, we still need the government and its help. Building permits, business permits and other things that we need from the government so that the business is legal.

So it is true that no matter how small the contribution and involvement of the government is in our business, we still need them. Even if some government policies are unprofitable, that is a different case.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ayers on June 05, 2023, 10:12:07 AM
Yes, we should find jobs on our own, not depend on others or expect someone to give us a job. But to say the government doesn't provide us with jobs is not true, because the businesses you are working for are all licensed and run by the government. The government has taken advantage of relations through diplomacy, creating conditions for foreign investors to invest in the country, thereby creating indirect jobs for people. Without the government, no company or corporation would be allowed to build and operate in our country. So governments not only play a role in creating justice, they are integral to the survival of the businesses we work for. Although they have inappropriate policies that make us unhappy, it must be admitted that we cannot survive without them.
I won't even deny this fact because after all the government also has a stake in the economic growth of its citizens. As you mentioned, even though we have our own business capitalized on personal budget, we still need the government and its help. Building permits, business permits and other things that we need from the government so that the business is legal.

So it is true that no matter how small the contribution and involvement of the government is in our business, we still need them. Even if some government policies are unprofitable, that is a different case.

Many people are always arrogant when they can find jobs on their own or start their own businesses without government help. But they do not know that every business and trade activity, even a small movement of the country's economy, has the contribution of the government. Even those working online, the government has a part in it. If they do not create a stable internet, a safe and peaceful society, will we have peace of mind to work and live?

But you mentioned one thing that I missed. That creates many jobs and creates conditions for society to develop, the government is also the beneficiary. It can be said that it is a mutually beneficial cooperation.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: blockman on June 05, 2023, 10:49:21 AM
The government can certainly make an important policy and can be accepted by everyone, for example by providing capital assistance to people who have the potential to become business people, then provide ease of payment methods so that they can help the people to advance and develop.
But they just can't provide that type of assistance forever. There will be certain limitations on it but that's one of the provisions that a government can do. If it becomes effective on that government then it's gonna make a lot of business people. Another one that a government can do is the cash-for-work jobs so, there goes with the business people and those that want to have a side hustle.

That creates many jobs and creates conditions for society to develop, the government is also the beneficiary. It can be said that it is a mutually beneficial cooperation.
Right, the government is gonna be a beneficiary for their citizens that has got jobs. And that's why there should be help from the government on how to employ their people and get jobs. So, it's a win win for both.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on June 05, 2023, 11:18:12 AM
It's not about surviving obviously you can survive without government job , but the facilities that comes with government job and permanent income everyone wants that nowadays.
If you want to do business go for it no one is stopping you but know the pros and cons of everything before moving on that path.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: superman184 on June 05, 2023, 12:01:57 PM
It's not about surviving obviously you can survive without government job , but the facilities that comes with government job and permanent income everyone wants that nowadays.
The facilities and salaries provided by the government to its employees are always very limited because all government employees' salaries have been measured based on their rank and the position in which they work. So every employee will not get a salary that is more than what has been set unless there is an increase which, before it is given, an announcement will be made in advance through the official media.

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If you want to do business go for it no one is stopping you but know the pros and cons of everything before moving on that path.
Actually doing business will not produce pros and cons, but rather create competition with other people when the lines and services are the same. So what needs to be understood here is how to compete quite healthily and how to provide better service than others so that the business has the potential to last a long time and can also be more advanced. Because now whatever knowledge you want to know is also easier to get if it's only about business and also how to run it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ringgo96 on June 05, 2023, 12:22:24 PM
The government can certainly make an important policy and can be accepted by everyone, for example by providing capital assistance to people who have the potential to become business people, then provide ease of payment methods so that they can help the people to advance and develop.


Currently there are actually very many policies made by the government but there are still many people who have not received these policies so many who set up private businesses that do not depend on the government and they can get everything they want, but we all still depend on the government in terms of security and procedures that have been set, but we have little freedom in working because we can manage time according to our wishes  alone.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Kakmakr on June 05, 2023, 04:15:06 PM
The United States of America   had 1,395,350 active Military personnel working for the government, so they created jobs for millions by making war.  ::)

In 2021, around 18.28 million people were working for state and local governments in the United States.... they had 331.9 million people living in the US in 2021. Imagine what their unemployment statistics would have looked like, if they did not provide government jobs. The unemployment rate has ranged from 3.4 percent to 3.7 percent since March 2022.  ::)


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bluebit25 on June 06, 2023, 01:29:42 PM
We all have the ability to create our own opportunities and survive without government intervention. Creativity and individual efforts can help us achieve success and come up with solutions to social problems. A business like yours contributes to economic development and will have a positive impact on the community.
Such businesses can improve employment and help some people's finances. Self-created opportunities for economic development are necessary for the nation and it is an important part of the progress of society.
When talking about job we cant really rely on government as we can really found jobs from private sector but again government has laws that can make everything fair because without it for sure you have very low salary and you cant also say that they increase it as there are no regulations on it. Government is really big factor to everything but again finding a job we should do our own to find it as the government will not feed it to you
Completely agree with your point of view, I live and grow up in a country where most people think that jobs related to the state apparatus enjoy great benefits. But honestly, after I grew up, went to school and worked, I realized the mistake of job judgment from people around can sometimes be said to be imposed on the future of the next generation, making it difficult to expand the possibilities self growth. It can be said that the current economic context is difficult and changing. If you do not take the initiative in working, it is difficult to avoid being dependent and subject to limitations from work. Although it is necessary to run from the government, but also being honest about the limitations in work has so far only brought more negative problems in society.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: BitcoinBabbler on June 06, 2023, 03:18:32 PM
The facility and salary provide by the government is always low because its salary  is depending upon based on experience and category of the government employee and every one employee its fixed salary only there is an increase which, before it is given, an announcement will be made in advance through the official media.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: kojektea on June 06, 2023, 04:37:18 PM
Of course, whatever it is, even with government jobs we still have to be able to maximize it as best as possible. I think some people in the top ranks can also corrupt the money that should be for workers. or they also call it the "boss fund" even though they deduct from the amount that workers should get for them. this means we don't have to depend on government jobs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Freddie Boyer on June 07, 2023, 03:02:22 AM
Individuals can take the initiative and start their own businesses, as shown in your popcorn business example. Entrepreneurship can create jobs and lead to economic growth, and with the right mindset and resources, you can succeed as an entrepreneur or business owner. Yes, we might survive without government jobs. Although maybe many of us are waiting for government action to provide jobs. I think one thing is important, that creating jobs is not the only responsibility of the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bayu7adi on June 07, 2023, 03:19:18 AM
The government can certainly make an important policy and can be accepted by everyone, for example by providing capital assistance to people who have the potential to become business people, then provide ease of payment methods so that they can help the people to advance and develop.
Essentially, individuals who possess business acumen typically have already been actively involved in entrepreneurship even before the government provides financial assistance. Many cases of misallocation have led to the government's ineffective utilization of its national budget.

A simple example of government misjudgment is providing capital to the impoverished without offering them proper business education. The allocated funds, intended to uplift the economy through entrepreneurial endeavors, instead contribute to consumptive behavior, resulting in the swift depletion of the aid.

Remember, not everyone has a business-oriented mindset; some individuals find comfort in salaried employment. Hence, it is crucial for the government to carefully select and identify individuals who are deserving of receiving such financial assistance.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: slapper on June 07, 2023, 06:18:18 AM
The government can certainly make an important policy and can be accepted by everyone, for example by providing capital assistance to people who have the potential to become business people, then provide ease of payment methods so that they can help the people to advance and develop.
Essentially, individuals who possess business acumen typically have already been actively involved in entrepreneurship even before the government provides financial assistance. Many cases of misallocation have led to the government's ineffective utilization of its national budget.

A simple example of government misjudgment is providing capital to the impoverished without offering them proper business education. The allocated funds, intended to uplift the economy through entrepreneurial endeavors, instead contribute to consumptive behavior, resulting in the swift depletion of the aid.

Remember, not everyone has a business-oriented mindset; some individuals find comfort in salaried employment. Hence, it is crucial for the government to carefully select and identify individuals who are deserving of receiving such financial assistance.
Once you add in the costs (the fines, the smoke and mirrors, and the "ethics? A huge bank story that includes the "What ethics?" routine is as bleak as any cyberpunk dystopia. Who among us hasn't done a double-tap on our screens in shock at their antics?

Bitcoin, with its decentralised style, is like the new hipster alternative to the stuffy suits at banks. But let's hold off on tweeting our frustration at the world's banks for the next 280 characters. There are bad actors in the midst of the good, but the good people who make their communities tick are what really matter.

Here, the key term is regulation. More and more of our cash is finding its way into digital wallets, making it imperative that we establish some regulations for this crypto-jungle. We may have stars in our Bitcoin-loving eyes, but a healthy digital currency ecosystem is the real prize.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bluebit25 on June 07, 2023, 09:02:18 AM
The facility and salary provide by the government is always low because its salary  is depending upon based on experience and category of the government employee and every one employee its fixed salary only there is an increase which, before it is given, an announcement will be made in advance through the official media.
Not exactly what you mentioned, because in the case of some professions as well as the life criteria of each country, we should also look at the problem from many directions. Some governments have implemented policies such as regular salary reviews and performance-based pay increases, as well as investments in infrastructure and training programs for employees. It is also important for governments to maintain transparency and communication about any changes to wages and benefits, and to engage employees and stakeholders in throughout the process.

Low wages and inadequate infrastructure can have a negative impact on the motivation and performance of government employees, as well as the quality of public services provided to citizens. It is important for governments to address these issues to attract and retain competent and committed employees, and to ensure that public services are delivered efficiently and effectively.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Gulttam2a2 on June 07, 2023, 09:13:18 AM
According to me you can survive without government job. In whole world you will see not everyone is doing government job. Many people are earning their living without doing government job. It sounds bad but it is true many people are better off without government job. People who do government job are 25-30 Year by year they come to pension. After pension they get huge amount of money which they spend in later life. In that case you will see a businessman he is earning money everyday by selling products and he is spending part of that money in bank and for his family. I am talking about business but many more things that will work for your livelihood. So my decision here is that we can go on without government jobs.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: uswa56 on June 07, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
According to me you can survive without government job. In whole world you will see not everyone is doing government job. Many people are earning their living without doing government job. It sounds bad but it is true many people are better off without government job. People who do government job are 25-30 Year by year they come to pension. After pension they get huge amount of money which they spend in later life. In that case you will see a businessman he is earning money everyday by selling products and he is spending part of that money in bank and for his family. I am talking about business but many more things that will work for your livelihood. So my decision here is that we can go on without government jobs.
even doing business promises more money than working for the government, I don't deny that but some people still hope for jobs with the government because they want security in their old age, they are afraid to take risks so the safest job is to work for the government.
it's all according to the economic concept, if you don't take risks then you won't get anything, life tends to be stable and there is no increase.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ebico on June 07, 2023, 01:00:30 PM
Most Government jobs does not give room to intellectual development, creative thinking, etc. So I will gladly suggest that one has to go out from his/her comfort zone and get what can make him or her a productive thinker and an example of such is the Bitcoin trading. Come to think of it how does it look like to sit and wait for 30 or 31 days before getting an income. It's kind of tiring to me. But in essence the Government is still playing a passive big role in anything you are doing to earn an income.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Texac on June 07, 2023, 03:30:31 PM
According to me you can survive without government job. In whole world you will see not everyone is doing government job. Many people are earning their living without doing government job. It sounds bad but it is true many people are better off without government job. People who do government job are 25-30 Year by year they come to pension. After pension they get huge amount of money which they spend in later life. In that case you will see a businessman he is earning money everyday by selling products and he is spending part of that money in bank and for his family. I am talking about business but many more things that will work for your livelihood. So my decision here is that we can go on without government jobs.
even doing business promises more money than working for the government, I don't deny that but some people still hope for jobs with the government because they want security in their old age, they are afraid to take risks so the safest job is to work for the government.
it's all according to the economic concept, if you don't take risks then you won't get anything, life tends to be stable and there is no increase.

but there is no guarantee that you will be 100% successful in business and investing, and if you get a job in the government, you will also have a chance to earn more money. Every profession and industry has the opportunity to advance and, importantly, your own ability.  Business is easy to get rich, but not everyone can do it, and most office jobs don't pay too well, but not without people getting rich by working in the office or government.  it all depends on your ability and mindset.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: bayudndy on June 07, 2023, 04:19:45 PM
It is true that the government plays an important role in creating an environment that fosters entrepreneurship and economic growth. Infrastructure, public safety, and regulations are all indirectly contributed to the success of businesses by the government. But the government cannot provide jobs for everyone. They just create an environment, so we have to be proactive, develop our skills, and create opportunities for ourselves. Waiting for complete reliance on the government to create jobs can limit our potential and slow our progress. In control of our own destiny, we have the power to contribute to the economy, create jobs, and make a positive impact in our communities.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: HajiBagi on June 07, 2023, 04:34:08 PM
You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.

It will be better if we don't rely on the government because doing so today will leave you with nothing. Working for the government is just another way to make ends meet because you will eventually retire from it, but if you build yourself another job there are thousands of graduates in some countries who are unemployed, so it will be better if we don't rely on the government.
The truth must be stated, though, and our current leaders are incredibly self-centered, which is the sole factor that has put many graduates on the streets today with nothing.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Peanutswar on October 05, 2023, 01:44:49 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Actually, it depends sometimes the government is the reason why the country fails in its service and providing the community needs those wrong decisions people will suffer, but if good management handles the country it a small population those are just reflections of the number of services like jobs that they can provide, of course it will depends on the skills and capability of the person to come up with this. Not as always are suitable for a work and skilled like others. Every good management create an opportunity. But not as always comes up with this kind of government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: asyakashi on October 05, 2023, 02:16:05 PM
it depends on how we survive. It's a shame that there are so many decent job vacancies. they have to pay entry fees which should be illegal but they just accept them in the company so that the company does not produce quality people to work. People who really work and are smart but have little money can only work hard for very minimum pay. I think the government should pay attention to this.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: asyakashi on October 05, 2023, 03:22:10 PM
Heavy work requires energy. but in some areas I'm sure they even share basic necessities with those in need and some of them even use their personal money without the government. I think as long as we still have age we can still survive. that's just what we depend on the government so some say the government should provide jobs for everyone.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Rockstarguy on October 05, 2023, 04:59:48 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I know the government has a very major role to play when it comes to job but when the government is not doing the needful to create job for people,  it is good for people to remove their mind from the government when nothing is coming from them.  Without the government people can still the little they can to survive,  the reason why people go to school is not just to graduate and get a job but to be able to think to create job. Their are lot of things people can do on their own without demanding any support or looking up to the government for for support,  but the main way of achieving this is to have a mindset of achieving greatness without support or looking up to the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Chilwell on October 05, 2023, 07:08:31 PM
Heavy work requires energy. but in some areas I'm sure they even share basic necessities with those in need and some of them even use their personal money without the government. I think as long as we still have age we can still survive. that's just what we depend on the government so some say the government should provide jobs for everyone.
It is impossible for the government to feed everyone, but there are some things that must be done for all citizens, such as infrastructure, energy, water, and other things. All of the aforementioned items, if made available, would also function as indirect government employees, but they wouldn't be paid directly by the government; instead, they would be paid by users of the items, and their availability would also lower unemployment. Although the government can no longer provide for us, we still have the chance to plan for our later years. This is not because they are neglecting us; rather, they are helpless in certain circumstances. Don't allow anyone convince you that they can, and instead, open your eyes.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Bushdark on October 05, 2023, 07:18:07 PM
it depends on how we survive. It's a shame that there are so many decent job vacancies. they have to pay entry fees which should be illegal but they just accept them in the company so that the company does not produce quality people to work. People who really work and are smart but have little money can only work hard for very minimum pay. I think the government should pay attention to this.
Honestly we don't have to reply on government jobs before we can survive. There are many private enterprise jobs outside there that even pays more than government jobs. We need ttk understand where we are and what we want to do and decisions we want to take before we make any attempt. We can always create our own business and employ people to work for us so that they can get paid at the end of every week or month. We should not always depend on government jobs because that would not be the best decisions we need to make doe ourselves as someone that has a bigger vison or ambitious plans in life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Uruhara on October 05, 2023, 07:40:36 PM
it depends on how we survive. It's a shame that there are so many decent job vacancies. they have to pay entry fees which should be illegal but they just accept them in the company so that the company does not produce quality people to work. People who really work and are smart but have little money can only work hard for very minimum pay. I think the government should pay attention to this.
The case that you brought up regarding the issue of entry fees to be accepted into a company has indeed happened a lot nowadays. And yes, in the end, those who have large capital to enter work will be given the most priority. They don't even have to bother entering selection exams or anything like that. This is different from people who apply for jobs honestly and without bribing money from insiders. Even though they have good skills, they are still not accepted and will always be pushed aside. even if accepted, they are placed in the hardest work. I think problems like this are really difficult to overcome. Because cooperation between the government and companies is needed to take this seriously. And in fact, many people have complained about this to the government. But the results have been zero so far. In fact, it is getting worse in some companies.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: flyingcarpet on October 05, 2023, 09:37:55 PM
Heavy work requires energy. but in some areas I'm sure they even share basic necessities with those in need and some of them even use their personal money without the government. I think as long as we still have age we can still survive. that's just what we depend on the government so some say the government should provide jobs for everyone.
It is impossible for the government to feed everyone, but there are some things that must be done for all citizens, such as infrastructure, energy, water, and other things. All of the aforementioned items, if made available, would also function as indirect government employees, but they wouldn't be paid directly by the government; instead, they would be paid by users of the items, and their availability would also lower unemployment. Although the government can no longer provide for us, we still have the chance to plan for our later years. This is not because they are neglecting us; rather, they are helpless in certain circumstances. Don't allow anyone convince you that they can, and instead, open your eyes.


The state cannot feed everyone, you are right about that. The duty of the state is to ensure that its citizens do not go hungry. In order for citizens not to go hungry, various opportunities must be created and options must be offered to citizens.

Not every person can do every job right. Therefore, there is a need for diversity in work areas. This is directly proportional to the development of the state.

We can say very different things about the state's negligence. The situation is not the same in every country, that is, in the world where economic problems are increasing, some governments have neglected their citizens. In this regard, we saw their failures mostly during the corona period.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Nwada001 on October 05, 2023, 09:54:51 PM
As young entrepreneurs, we don't actually need the government to employ us first in any official work before we can be able to make a living in life. Education is not just to go there and acquire knowledge and await our government to come and employ us; we acquire knowledge that we can use to better our lives.
 
Right now, what we need as citizens is skill, something that we can do very well and use to put food on our table. Waiting for government employment is a very lazy thing to do, as we might end up blaming the government for the rest of our lives for our failure. Start up anything that you can, with whatever capital you have in hand, and you might even end up providing employment for others.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 05, 2023, 10:15:04 PM
In providing job opportunities for everyone, the government can not do that. You are to do that by yourself by utilizing the government-provided basic amenities to your advantage.

The popcorn business you started, who supplies the gas for it? The government. The electricity, water, good roads, security, and organized societies you enjoy? Also The government.

I'm trying to say to you that we all depend on the government for survival in all that we do. Even if they aren't the ones supporting us, at least what they have done is a stepping stone to our commercial success.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 05, 2023, 10:49:58 PM
Heavy work requires energy. but in some areas I'm sure they even share basic necessities with those in need and some of them even use their personal money without the government. I think as long as we still have age we can still survive. that's just what we depend on the government so some say the government should provide jobs for everyone.
It is impossible for the government to feed everyone, but there are some things that must be done for all citizens, such as infrastructure, energy, water, and other things. All of the aforementioned items, if made available, would also function as indirect government employees, but they wouldn't be paid directly by the government; instead, they would be paid by users of the items, and their availability would also lower unemployment. Although the government can no longer provide for us, we still have the chance to plan for our later years. This is not because they are neglecting us; rather, they are helpless in certain circumstances. Don't allow anyone convince you that they can, and instead, open your eyes.


The state cannot feed everyone, you are right about that. The duty of the state is to ensure that its citizens do not go hungry. In order for citizens not to go hungry, various opportunities must be created and options must be offered to citizens.

Not every person can do every job right. Therefore, there is a need for diversity in work areas. This is directly proportional to the development of the state.

We can say very different things about the state's negligence. The situation is not the same in every country, that is, in the world where economic problems are increasing, some governments have neglected their citizens. In this regard, we saw their failures mostly during the corona period.
People do really love to point out fingers without even trying to look around on whats the reality that they are facing. Yes, government does really have that responsibility on making things in order but we know that there
are problems on which it cant really be resolved out completely specially that unemployment rate on which it is really just that something that cant really be resolved out completely. This is why if you are that someone who hadnt been chosen or given out the opportunity then dont really blame out the government because not everything would really be applicable to all people or its citizens on which means that they would really be that just normal that you would really be needing to find your way on finding another source of income on which you wont really be making yourself that reliant to them.

It would really be just that sensible right thing to be done is to find yourself those other opportunities on which you could really be able to dive in, because if you do just wait up for those opening of vacant jobs
then you would really be finding yourself get fucked up. Dont tell me that you wont be considering about having those daily expenses when it comes to living and this is why it would really be crucial
that you would really be needing to find ways for you to be able to make yourself that sustainable or else then you would really be sleeping on the streets.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Mate2237 on October 05, 2023, 11:19:58 PM
It is not good but it is the duty of the government to provide job and good working places for his citizens so they can be self-employed and manage their life without looking for government work. And one thing that making people to look for government job is because they are looking for the capital to start up their own business and once they got the capital they focus on their business.

And the mentality of many high school graduates are for government jobs and as the government disappointed them on that, many have sorted themselves to criminal activities that causing problem in the society. Self employ is the best but the capital to start up is the issue among youths.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Miles2006 on October 06, 2023, 10:38:40 AM
You're actually right, without government employment you can still do better just like what you said you started a popcorn business and now people are working under you, for mean I prefer being an entrepreneur than working for the government.
Am actually in support of what you said, anyone waiting for government employment will never make it. That's why I encourage people to learn different kinds of skill and being productive


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 05:31:01 PM
In as much as we expect that the government should provide employment opportunities for us, with or without their employment, we will still survive.

In the first place, how much can the government-established jobs give you?

 Most of the employed salary earners don't even earn as much as an average business or entrepreneurial person earns.

If you want to make it well as a young person growing up, one of the first things you need to remove from you is the mentality that you need to be employed by the government before you start working or earning money.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Pingrapole on October 08, 2023, 12:12:06 AM
We should not wait for govt jobs but govt jobs increase many people's mental happiness or dignity if the pay is low, business or other jobs do not. Business puts people under more stress So in work, but government job helps people to place financial social mental and social status high seat, but we all should prepare ourselves without waiting long time for government job Businesses to incorporate yourself with income There are many other jobs or jobs in which you have more income opportunities which will help you a lot to fulfill your dreams to move forward but To get higher social status government job is needed it makes it easy for people to gain respect and other jobs have respect but for money people give respect because of fear or due to various reasons.I don't agree with the point you made that you are in a better position to start a business without government support because you wouldn't have been able to if the government was helping you in some way or the other.You can say the government is protecting you externally, or internally You should be grateful that the government is not providing any hindrance
The last thing is that it is not that you cannot live without government jobs but according to the current situation social system the importance of government jobs is immense but according to the situation you should wait for government jobs and Income is very much needed without waiting for them to get involved in various activities like business trading private jobs online income etc. If you get involved in important activities it will be very beneficial to start your business Thank you very much and may your business expand further and help you achieve your goals.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: dothebeats on October 08, 2023, 02:17:28 AM
In as much as we expect that the government should provide employment opportunities for us, with or without their employment, we will still survive.

In the first place, how much can the government-established jobs give you?

 Most of the employed salary earners don't even earn as much as an average business or entrepreneurial person earns.

If you want to make it well as a young person growing up, one of the first things you need to remove from you is the mentality that you need to be employed by the government before you start working or earning money.
You're right. While it's true that the government has a responsibility to us, we shouldn't be depending on it especially when it comes to jobs. Besides, we cannot just focus on the responsibility of the government and turn a blind eye on our own responsibilities.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Lantind on October 08, 2023, 04:05:27 AM
In as much as we expect that the government should provide employment opportunities for us, with or without their employment, we will still survive.

In the first place, how much can the government-established jobs give you?

 Most of the employed salary earners don't even earn as much as an average business or entrepreneurial person earns.

If you want to make it well as a young person growing up, one of the first things you need to remove from you is the mentality that you need to be employed by the government before you start working or earning money.
Expecting a job from the government, I don't think there's anything wrong if we just want an adequate life, but we won't be able to get enough for our desires because in my opinion, the salary we get from the government really depends on our class and if we are a small group then it's only enough to meet our daily needs. just us. I really agree with you that it is better for us to try to make money ourselves because we can make more money by doing business than by working for the government.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Out of mind on October 08, 2023, 04:35:33 AM
When we graduate from education, we have a dream that we will do government job and live happily and peacefully with family. But very few people fulfill that plan, and even fewer can get government. Moreover, the percentage of government jobs in every country is very low, our dreams are mostly unrealized that is government jobs. However, we have seen that people can survive without government jobs, there is no need for government jobs. Most people are also working, and they work constantly then present their daily life, but they are also alive. So we who are still sitting for government jobs are constantly running towards the goal of earning money. People can definitely survive without government jobs, if government jobs save a person's life then we would be dead long ago. So there are many ways of earning a person to survive in life most of the people are working, and they don't dream of government jobs. Government jobs are only available to lucky people, and we have seen that in most countries of the world government jobs are available to very few people. Of course, I have finished my studies, besides, I have a small job for living, but my future hope is that I will build a business on my own feet.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: jasonjm on October 08, 2023, 06:37:04 AM
Yes! We can survive without a government job. A whole lot of people work in the private sector and are well-settled. Many people are also self-employed and living a comfortable life. A government job is just another option to earn some bucks. What source of income suits you will depend on your education, interests, and your ultimate life goal. People should not look for government jobs, instead, they should start their businesses and help in the economic growth of the country rather than being a burden.
I am of the opinion that government jobs have their benefits as well as drawbacks. Job security is the most important thing, along with a steady income source. But the chances of growth (financial) are very limited, and a person is stuck in there for the rest of his life. On the other hand, private jobs can pay you handsomely, and chances of financial well-being are higher. Start-up is the best option if you are looking for growth beyond imagination.

It is also important to manage your finances well and have some future savings for rainy days or unforeseen circumstances like the COVID-19 pandemic, regardless of your source of income. You can also look for an additional source of income to improve your survival chances in the future.   


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Gaza13 on October 08, 2023, 07:47:02 AM
Everyone really hopes for the jobs provided by the government. The government has tried to open up investment as much as possible to invite investors into the country in order to absorb more workers and reduce the impact of unemployment, but investors have not found a win-win solution in investing. in that country, but the government cannot provide for all its people. If we are not included in the workforce that has been provided, we should not be discouraged, there are still many ways to earn money and survive, such as doing business or trading, farming or going to sea to find a bite of rice. Many people are successful in running their business, but the process is not easy, it takes a long time to survive and be successful. The government has a role for the entire community in public services such as education, health, etc



Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Lorence.xD on October 08, 2023, 08:12:10 AM
Everyone really hopes for the jobs provided by the government. The government has tried to open up investment as much as possible to invite investors into the country in order to absorb more workers and reduce the impact of unemployment, but investors have not found a win-win solution in investing. in that country, but the government cannot provide for all its people. If we are not included in the workforce that has been provided, we should not be discouraged, there are still many ways to earn money and survive, such as doing business or trading, farming or going to sea to find a bite of rice. Many people are successful in running their business, but the process is not easy, it takes a long time to survive and be successful. The government has a role for the entire community in public services such as education, health, etc



Well, government task is to eliminate or lessen the increasing number of unemployment rate, since they have the funds to open up jobs from the taxes which people really expect for the government to take an action from this issue. But sadly you are right, despite any investment made by the government, it's still not enough to support the organization so it will eventually fail, for example jobs like doesn't have a return cause mostly of labor jobs, their income is also from the factory's performance if their product has a good sale. Since we're in the era of the internet, we could find many things that we can consider as money sources such as online selling, reselling or jobs. If you explore more for sure you could find a well paying job. If you really want to aim for a higher job, as you said government has a free education in public schools.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: taufik123 on October 08, 2023, 09:53:09 AM
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Since we're in the era of the internet, we could find many things that we can consider as money sources such as online selling, reselling or jobs. If you explore more for sure you could find a well paying job. If you really want to aim for a higher job, as you said government has a free education in public schools.
In this modern era of the internet, online business is growing rapidly and many offline sellers are starting to switch to online sales.
Some of the advantages of selling online are that it does not require an official place or shop to reduce taxes, Online sales marketing is easier and there are many ways that can be done to promote online sales.

But the problem at the moment is the skills of each person, if the government provides training for each field needed to build their work, then it will be the right way.
As well as cooperating with many companies that need new workers so that from the training program there are outputs and inputs that are mutually beneficial.

Some of the trainees are also expected to build their own businesses and create new jobs.
Being a businessman will provide many opportunities for others as well. 


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: macson on October 08, 2023, 10:00:39 AM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Salute to you friend, you are not the type of person who just expects mercy from the government but you work hard to change your fate with your own hands.  It's not easy to start a business, let alone maintain it, but if we remain consistent and are willing to humble ourselves a little to serve customers well, then you can be sure that the business you are running will survive.  If more young people are willing to struggle to start a business then jobs will be created and we will at least help reduce the government's workload in solving unemployment.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Ben Barubal on October 08, 2023, 10:29:33 AM
Everyone really hopes for the jobs provided by the government. The government has tried to open up investment as much as possible to invite investors into the country in order to absorb more workers and reduce the impact of unemployment, but investors have not found a win-win solution in investing. in that country, but the government cannot provide for all its people. If we are not included in the workforce that has been provided, we should not be discouraged, there are still many ways to earn money and survive, such as doing business or trading, farming or going to sea to find a bite of rice. Many people are successful in running their business, but the process is not easy, it takes a long time to survive and be successful. The government has a role for the entire community in public services such as education, health, etc



       The government has programs for its citizens to help in any way in the matter of survival. There are various programs, one of which is to reduce the unemployment rate in their country. But not everyone is able to get a job, and every country is facing this problem in their country of jurisdiction.

       There are others who launch the government through livelihoods or cooperatives to give simple jobs to others or teach skills to anyone to benefit from this matter later. But without the support of the government, we can still survive, as long as we know how to strategize in life.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: slapper on October 08, 2023, 02:10:36 PM
Everyone really hopes for the jobs provided by the government. The government has tried to open up investment as much as possible to invite investors into the country in order to absorb more workers and reduce the impact of unemployment, but investors have not found a win-win solution in investing. in that country, but the government cannot provide for all its people. If we are not included in the workforce that has been provided, we should not be discouraged, there are still many ways to earn money and survive, such as doing business or trading, farming or going to sea to find a bite of rice. Many people are successful in running their business, but the process is not easy, it takes a long time to survive and be successful. The government has a role for the entire community in public services such as education, health, etc


Employment, especially government employment, is a common desire, right? The government does provide jobs, and you're right about their wanting to attract investors. But why are investors hesitant? Policies or the country's economy?

Since the government can't help everyone, people's tenacity and inventiveness shine through. Making a living through commerce, trading, farming, or even fishing is admirable. It's not easy or straightforward, yet many have succeeded on it. The road to business success is long and difficult. But isn't persistence the key to overcoming these obstacles? While providing public services, the government must foster small company growth, right? Your views on self-reliance and entrepreneurship in the face of unemployment are crucial


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: DVlog on October 08, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
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Since we're in the era of the internet, we could find many things that we can consider as money sources such as online selling, reselling or jobs. If you explore more for sure you could find a well paying job. If you really want to aim for a higher job, as you said government has a free education in public schools.
In this modern era of the internet, online business is growing rapidly and many offline sellers are starting to switch to online sales.
Some of the advantages of selling online are that it does not require an official place or shop to reduce taxes, Online sales marketing is easier and there are many ways that can be done to promote online sales.

But the problem at the moment is the skills of each person, if the government provides training for each field needed to build their work, then it will be the right way.
As well as cooperating with many companies that need new workers so that from the training program there are outputs and inputs that are mutually beneficial.

Some of the trainees are also expected to build their own businesses and create new jobs.
Being a businessman will provide many opportunities for others as well. 

Online businesses are growing rapidly due to their ability to reach a wide range of customers quickly. Your offline business's targeted customers are based in a certain region while an online business can help a company sell their product on a global scale. Its cost efficiency in storage, salesman, security makes it the first choice for a company. You don't need to store your product in a warehouse as you can sell other products through a website. This is why dropshipping businesses are popular on the internet.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Usasauki2004 on October 08, 2023, 02:29:40 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Virtually everything you see government have a hand in it either directly or indirectly. In this present situation we are now is not a necessity or a most you wait for government job. To even get government job now is becoming more and more difficult, individuals have to be innovative, creative and acquire skills. You can make a leaving with physical business or online business but still those things are make easier with the help of government. Even if we ain't given government job they help us in subsidizing alot of things that will enable us carry out our businesses effectively.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Adams0001 on October 08, 2023, 02:53:22 PM
Yes! We can survive without a government job. A whole lot of people work in the private sector and are well-settled. Many people are also self-employed and living a comfortable life. A government job is just another option to earn some bucks. What source of income suits you will depend on your education, interests, and your ultimate life goal. People should not look for government jobs, instead, they should start their businesses and help in the economic growth of the country rather than being a burden.

Exactly, Everyone can survive without a government job because not everyone works for the government and people have become wealthy without working for the governing bodies. Some people's have source of income from the business they run or they invest their money in a platform that generates money to them, Many people are not waiting for government positions because even if you work for them, he will not pay you enough to solve a problem.

They have many businesses that will give you funds without the government work and you will not be interested in the work, some people don't go to school because they don't have the money to sponsor themselves and if you are not educated you can't work with the government, so they do business and make a lot of money and profit, and not by chance the money they make in a month exceeds the money they pay government workers. In my country, we don't wait for the government to hire; many people are used to running their own enterprises before they finish high school, so they don't rely on government funds.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: red4slash on October 08, 2023, 02:58:42 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
Salute to you friend, you are not the type of person who just expects mercy from the government but you work hard to change your fate with your own hands.  It's not easy to start a business, let alone maintain it, but if we remain consistent and are willing to humble ourselves a little to serve customers well, then you can be sure that the business you are running will survive.  If more young people are willing to struggle to start a business then jobs will be created and we will at least help reduce the government's workload in solving unemployment.
That's what we should do, don't wait for others to provide opportunities for us, but we must be able to create opportunities ourselves, not only from the government but from anyone. If we wait and continue to wait (in this case, the government) to open opportunities for us, then when will we be able to progress? I don't think so. Moreover, the government also does not take care of us alone but millions of people they have to think about.
The government does have an obligation to provide opportunities, but if we can open our own opportunities, why wait for others to give them to us? So stand on your own feet.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: MFahad on October 08, 2023, 03:46:19 PM
Expecting a job from the government, I don't think there's anything wrong if we just want an adequate life, but we won't be able to get enough for our desires because in my opinion, the salary we get from the government really depends on our class and if we are a small group then it's only enough to meet our daily needs. just us. I really agree with you that it is better for us to try to make money ourselves because we can make more money by doing business than by working for the government.

yes exactly our salary depends on the class we have like if an individual is officer in any field then his salary will be higher as Compared to the individual having lower class job. But I have saw that having larger salary will move you in more expensive life while having low salary will mininize your expenses because a person do his work According to the salary.

The benefit in working for the government is that you are making the country's economy better and it also give you advantage that if you are not able to go to work then government will not deduct your salary while those of online jobs you have to work regularly and if you don't work for a day you will not get money for that day.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: taufik123 on October 08, 2023, 04:09:36 PM
Online businesses are growing rapidly due to their ability to reach a wide range of customers quickly. Your offline business's targeted customers are based in a certain region while an online business can help a company sell their product on a global scale. Its cost efficiency in storage, salesman, security makes it the first choice for a company. You don't need to store your product in a warehouse as you can sell other products through a website. This is why dropshipping businesses are popular on the internet.
The dropshipping business was indeed popular, I was also dropshipping a few years ago but finally had to stop because of the online store policy that was fruitful and gave us only a little profit and the online store system that did not really support dropshipping.



In addition, there is a new phenomenon currently making waves in my country,
namely about TiktokShop which is a live-streaming platform for selling online at very low prices and can even get free shipping.

But when traced deeper, TiktokShop does not fully comply with the regulations in my country because it turns out that many foreign goods enter at very cheap prices and local goods lose out on the competition.

Finally, the Tiktokshop closure regulation has been running since September 4.
But I don't know what the regulations will be, maybe there will be some more adjustments.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2023/10/04/tiktok-to-stop-sales-in-indonesia-after-social-commerce-ban.html


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: YUriy1991 on October 08, 2023, 04:28:37 PM
Everyone really hopes for the jobs provided by the government. The government has tried to open up investment as much as possible to invite investors into the country in order to absorb more workers and reduce the impact of unemployment, but investors have not found a win-win solution in investing. in that country, but the government cannot provide for all its people. If we are not included in the workforce that has been provided, we should not be discouraged, there are still many ways to earn money and survive, such as doing business or trading, farming or going to sea to find a bite of rice. Many people are successful in running their business, but the process is not easy, it takes a long time to survive and be successful. The government has a role for the entire community in public services such as education, health, etc

Well, government task is to eliminate or lessen the increasing number of unemployment rate, since they have the funds to open up jobs from the taxes which people really expect for the government to take an action from this issue. But sadly you are right, despite any investment made by the government, it's still not enough to support the organization so it will eventually fail, for example jobs like doesn't have a return cause mostly of labor jobs, their income is also from the factory's performance if their product has a good sale. Since we're in the era of the internet, we could find many things that we can consider as money sources such as online selling, reselling or jobs. If you explore more for sure you could find a well paying job. If you really want to aim for a higher job, as you said government has a free education in public schools.

The government's responsibility is large and the aid that is subsidized is sometimes not full because there are many points that need to be addressed. Well, in this case the government also has high hopes for the managers so that what they are trying to do will run well and provide great benefits because Apart from absorbing the workforce, it can also reduce the unemployment rate. So, this is where good collaboration is needed between the government, private sector and society to create a healthy environment where jobs can grow and develop. It is certainly hoped that the role of the above components will be at least optimal.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Gozie51 on October 08, 2023, 04:30:44 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Virtually everything you see government have a hand in it either directly or indirectly. In this present situation we are now is not a necessity or a most you wait for government job. To even get government job now is becoming more and more difficult, individuals have to be innovative, creative and acquire skills. You can make a leaving with physical business or online business but still those things are make easier with the help of government. Even if we ain't given government job they help us in subsidizing alot of things that will enable us carry out our businesses effectively.

It is government inefficiency that create the kind of chaotic business environment that is withnessed today. In the first place it is the responsibility of government to provide security and enabling environment for the people. The youths are suppose to be supported to thrive in any area of life that they choose with the unavailability of the government jobs  Government is given the right of protection for the people because the people gave up their rights to elect them to take public decisions that is suppose to influence their lives positively.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 08, 2023, 04:35:18 PM
People shouldn't rely on anyone else but themselves for work.  If you are sitting and waiting you are destined to fail at whatever goals you have.  It's good that governments have assistance for people in need but that shouldn't be the norm.  Most governments are corrupt in one form or another so to rely on them for anything to include employment isn't too wise.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: DVlog on October 08, 2023, 05:06:47 PM
Online businesses are growing rapidly due to their ability to reach a wide range of customers quickly. Your offline business's targeted customers are based in a certain region while an online business can help a company sell their product on a global scale. Its cost efficiency in storage, salesman, security makes it the first choice for a company. You don't need to store your product in a warehouse as you can sell other products through a website. This is why dropshipping businesses are popular on the internet.
The dropshipping business was indeed popular, I was also dropshipping a few years ago but finally had to stop because of the online store policy that was fruitful and gave us only a little profit and the online store system that did not really support dropshipping.



In addition, there is a new phenomenon currently making waves in my country,
namely about TiktokShop which is a live-streaming platform for selling online at very low prices and can even get free shipping.

But when traced deeper, TiktokShop does not fully comply with the regulations in my country because it turns out that many foreign goods enter at very cheap prices and local goods lose out on the competition.

Finally, the Tiktokshop closure regulation has been running since September 4.
But I don't know what the regulations will be, maybe there will be some more adjustments.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2023/10/04/tiktok-to-stop-sales-in-indonesia-after-social-commerce-ban.html


I have seen some people livestream on TikTok to sell their products. In my place some sellers do this kind of live selling in face and took orders for their products. Dropshipping is still a popular business and there isn't much regulatory action towards it. This TiktokShop you are talking about is still new in here but due to its popularity in the country i think this will also take it's place in the market.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 08, 2023, 05:18:37 PM
Well I think I could survive without a government job here in the United States, but that being said, I work directly with the government.  I run the state of Illinois Deferred Compensation plan which is the governments form of a 401k.  The way I see it, I got in to this industry to fight for and create change.  I am able to do so while working for the government and that's a great feeling of satisfaction that I get from it.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Negotiation on October 08, 2023, 06:09:19 PM
Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Virtually everything you see government have a hand in it either directly or indirectly. In this present situation we are now is not a necessity or a most you wait for government job. To even get government job now is becoming more and more difficult, individuals have to be innovative, creative and acquire skills. You can make a leaving with physical business or online business but still those things are make easier with the help of government. Even if we ain't given government job they help us in subsidizing alot of things that will enable us carry out our businesses effectively.
Nowadays it is very difficult to get a government job the best idea to do business here is not to be under anyone's control. The person manages everything independently online business can be started this is one of the most popular and profitable business listings available today. The business will require little capital to start but the future is technology and any technology related business will help you rule the future. But before that you need to learn some business skills to start any business.


Title: Re: Without government job we can survive
Post by: Gozie51 on October 08, 2023, 06:39:24 PM
Well I think I could survive without a government job here in the United States, but that being said, I work directly with the government.  I run the state of Illinois Deferred Compensation plan which is the governments form of a 401k.  The way I see it, I got in to this industry to fight for and create change.  I am able to do so while working for the government and that's a great feeling of satisfaction that I get from it.

That is good you are in government job and to fight for positive change, so how have you been able to get your contribution impacted on the government policy and have you been able to influence the creation of new jobs around you.

Like to ensure those who retire out of service don't manipulate their names back in the payroll perpetually, those families whose retirees are late don't keep benefitting from the payroll and also that deserving employees are employed to replace the retirees because when new people are employed then the unemployment rate will be reducing. Just to add, there are ghost workers in government establishment and they pay them in proxy and they don't pay tax to the government.