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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

The worst part is when you deposit big play a few games then want to withdraw. In such case if the user fails to pass KYC then he might lose his deposit money. It is good to pass KYC and then make deposit to safeguard the deposit amount.  I don't think there is any harm in doing KYC before playing as eventually you would be asked to do it sometime later by the casino.

In many cases, any attempt to stop a withdrawal - including not accepting ID for some reason, waiting a very long time for a withdrawal - is time for the casino to instruct the person to cancel the withdrawal, keep playing and eventually lose all their money.  Therefore, if you have already ordered a payout, do not expect it very soon and be ready that you will have to wait longer, but above all, do not cancel it at all costs, because in the vast majority of cases you will end up losing your entire payout and the casino will be happy,  because it made money again.

This is not just the behavior of gamblers at casinos or casinos rejecting KYC after great wins. I have found out that on most occasions, it's always easier when someone newly registered on a platform that requires KYC to register that very moment or later before you even make any single deposit, as most platforms, after your money is in their hands, make your KYC process very uncomfortable. This is as a result of them having doubts about where your deposit actually came from, what your intentions are, or maybe they want to withhold your funds( that's for the platforms that are not transparent).
 
We most often just care less about things that are very essential and can cause us issues in the near future.

Doing the needful is important if you want to enjoy the service of a casino. When registering take your time to read T&S properly so that you will know your next step if it is to continue with your registration or not. As for KYC,I have seen it that it is now mandatory for gamblers to submit KYC before they will be given full access to withdraw any funds either win or deposit that is big from the casino. Therefore, we shouldn't see the KYC as a barrier that will hinder us from cashing out or to have issues with the casino when it is necessary. Don't deposit only when you have submitted your KYC and have been verified by the casino,if not you might be faced some some challenges in the nearest future.

The reason why most persons don’t verify their identity before using a casino is due to the fact that they are making use of so many different casinos so it’s a bit difficult for them to complete kyc verification for all of them.

But for those that wants to stick to a single casino it’s always best to look for a reputable casino that you can trust with your details and complete your kyc verification, but in some cases some uncertain suspicion could also make the casino request for an urgent verification before you can request withdrawal from a casino so in those case verifying kyc before using them is not fixable.

If you trust the casino and you're a big bettor and you think that you could win a big amount of money and you don't want issues when you want to withdraw huge money then go ahead if there's an option to verify your account, once you sign up in a licensed casino you should expect KYC, you should expect unexpected winning, but this does not mean that you will not encounter issues with your account, even if you did a KYC they can still ask you for additional documents.

There's no such thing as safe marking in a casino, if there's an issue in your account and their security triggers an alarm you still have to prove your innocence or ask you to do another verification.
If you're going to face all of this it's better to face this issue where you will have a fair chance and that is in a reputable casino.

In terms of what you said, we can't completely blame the casino for denying KYC when customers want to withdraw large amounts of money because when casinos are clear in Tos there is content about KYC requirements then why would gamblers want to provide KYC when they only got big wins to withdraw it.
I have said many times about KYC to provide KYC from the start when you enter a gambling site so you don't experience unwanted problems if the casino already requires KYC.
Cases like this happen a lot and I'm still wondering who exactly is at fault in cases like this, but if the casino doesn't have a Tos containing KYC requirements and when it wins it asks for KYC it's clear there's still a chance the casino also has an error.

Instead of experiencing similar cases in the future, it is better to provide KYC and wait for approval that KYC is accepted before depositing money for gambling and anyone who does not want to experience the problem of withdrawing large amounts should first consider if they still want to gamble anonymously and refuse KYC requests that are asked the casino.

Can you provide evidence supporting that this case happened on reputable casino aside from the accusations of newbie user here without any proof that they submit the right format ID?

A reputable casino will never do this kind of cheap trick and there’s always an arbitrage platform to handle case like this to prove who’s telling the truth between the casino and players. But I do agree that completing KYC earlier on a casino that you will deposit huge amount is a wise move to save time for verification waiting.

You can provide your KYC requirements before or after you've won while gambling and doesn't stop the casino recognizing your information provided except they are not trusted gambling platform, submission for KYC also does not make a gambler win or loose, it's the luck for winning that matters.


A reputable casino will not do that, maybe some are not providing adequate ad required documents needed for the casino tobe satisfied with.

I agree and that is an advice for people who gamble with big amounts but not only,it is even for people who gamble with low amounts who suddenly get lucky and hit the max win payout from a huge multiplier in some different game.Therefore I think it is paramount for people to first make a search for the casino where they want to play and see if they are legit and trustworthy and then go ahead and verify themselves this way they will avoid problems.

I personally am level 2 verified from 4 levels that Stake casino has and for me this is enough as I doubt I will ever win more than the limit that this verification lets you withdraw  ;D.

I am doing "pre KYC" for many years now. Wouldn't even get the idea of doing KYC later, this only opens the door for problem, better to safe yourself the trouble.

Some site though, when asking, say something like "we don't require KYC for the moment, this can change in the future though". If a site refuses to do KYC before making the first deposit it is easy to just skip this site, because this is very strange behaviour in my opinion. What would be the reason to not wanting o verify who you customers are if not you are thinking this is a disadvantage for your company.

Some site speculate for deposits and in case you are winning they throw the multi account or whatever ban hammer at you. If you do KYC before that, you can pretty much prevent this. So always do it, if they refuse, just play somewhere else.

I learned this the hard way and the terrible experience still stays with me till this day. I had played in an online casino for about two months. During this time I made some wins and was able to withdraw my money without submitting any KYC document. Then one day I had won close to a $100 and was when I tried to withdraw the money, I was asked to submit some documents for KYC before withdrawal. One of the documents kept on getting rejected for almost three day until I submitted another one. It was a terrible experience. Since then, the first thing I do after signing up on a casino is to go to my account profile and submit the necessary KYC documents. And if the documents keeps getting rejected and I think some casinos intentionally do this, I simply sign up in another casino.

Are you willing to do that while exploring your options on which casino can meet your needs as a gambler? I assume that your answer will be no because identity is a precious thing to us and that keeps us different and unique from any other people, surely we wouldn't do such mistakes where we keep on submitting our identity firsthand while also using a couple of casino. You know, until we can find that casino that is suitable to us.

But if you're inclined to do that, I suggest that you filter a couple of reputable casino and select whichever you want before you start submitting your information to them. That way, it's more safer compared to what I mentioned above.

That would be a good thing to do if you are seriously considering to play long-term on a casino.
Otherwise, better submit your KYC docs in a small number of casinos, as much as possible to casinos that you think you will play seriously.
Because the more casinos you submitted those docs, the higher chance of you getting screwed by scammers, because you don't
know where your docs will end up with.
As much as possible, limit your identity exposure to online gambling sites. Stick to reputable ones.

The majority of gamblers approved of doing KYC because of what we've seen on scam accusations where gamblers after winning a sizeable amount asked for KYC and it took a lot of time for the casino to resolve it, this is very inconvenient, when you know that you deserve the money but you are restricted because of the pending KYC.

If the casino you're playing is reputable, you might as well do it so you'll know if it's worth playing at that casino so you can concentrate on playing and winning, and you have no doubt running in your head.

Maybe the problem is on your document? I experience this too on my KYC verification on Duelbits, My documents keep rejecting even if the quality of picture is hd and the documents I is eligible for their requirements. It turns out that my ID is just recently expired which I didn’t notice since it’s just a few days it expires while I use same documents to KYC on other services successfully.

Casino that use 3rd party KYC is typically the one who is very hard to pass because they are using some automated verification on the documents provided which a simple glare or blur on part of ID will automatically rejected.

I don't think that completing your KYC so early is needed is you are someone who will always bet with low amount and withdraws money that's in 100's of dollars rather than 1000's of dollars. I agree that the player who have huge bankroll should submit and complete their KYC as soon as possible, but the ones who have a small bankroll and they are going to begin with less than $1000 should start gambling one any reputed casino without much worries. If you know that you're someone who will play huge bets then go and complete the KYC before putting any money, but if you are a normal gambler with small bank balance then ignore the burden of KYC first and focus on increasing your balance first.

It just looks as if this very post is directed to me personally, I am guilty of this and I don't know how to correct it. This happens especially when the kyc process is not straight forward. I will automatically abandon it, that I will complete it later. Then I will keep playing without completing their kyc. Maybe after reading this post I will reconsider myself and begin to complete kyc where necessary.
Op is very correct because it is easy to complete kyc when you don't have any deposit, but when you have deposited and wins big and trying to do emergency kyc, the gambling company might use that against you indirectly.

This is the right course of action if you're committed to your gambling activities. By submitting the KYC information and passing the verification process, you eliminate the possibility of the casino denying your requests or asking for additional requirements. Once you've completed the KYC process, they won't be able to use it as an excuse. It's a wise decision to undergo KYC as long as you're prepared to provide your complete information and have confidence in the gambling site's ability to maintain its confidentiality.

LOL! Now OP thinks that his thread would get gamblers pass KYC before even getting themselves accustomed to a casino. Why on the earth a gambler should go through KYC before being able to understand the paltform. I do agree a big deposit before passing KYC can be an issue. What I don't understand why I need to submit my identity document on a casino that doesn't give me a guarantee that it won't be sold. Is there any law supporting a users document would be secure? I and many here have seen how an established casino can dupe it's users. There is nothing that would harm the owner of a casino if he and his team do an exit scam. Then why a gambler would verify himself! Atleast he is still has anoymity and if he wins he would go through the KYC process.

You just highlighted an important thing about playing and withdrawing in casino. The point you raised anbout KYC could be as a result of some factors. The issue is that some bettors are confident that they have document to show for their KYC and will enable them to have easy passage but most times they even get stocked with that document either it will be blurred, has an alteration which now becomes an issue for them at the time they want to go ahead with the KYC. Some bettors also don't have appropriate document to show or they just don't like KYC so they depend on luck not to go through KYC or they think by withdrawing small amount of money, they won't be required to submit documents for KYC since they are small winners thinking the casino will focus on those winning huge.

I still haven't experience fail KYC in my entire time on playing on online casinos. I make sure to fill up the right information of soft KYC like name, address and other information that can identify you. Problems occur when the information do not match what you entered after registering in the casino or of course suspicious activities. It is also advisable to play on a reputated casino because I think this kind of problem doesn't occur that much since there's a lesser chance that they will scam their customer given that they have the reputation to care for.

If there's a casino giving many excuses to not verify the gambler's KYC, it's mean the casino is sketchy and might likely scam. This is why we should gamble on a trusted and reputable in this forum, so when you have this problem, you can contact the representative in this forum, if they not respond or not make you satisfied, you can create an accusation against them.

Pass KYC later isn't a bad idea, not everyone want to verify their account.

I have had the opportunity to work in many casino sites but most of the casino sites did not require KYC, but in those casinos where mandatory KYC orders are issued, KYC verification is approved after providing personal information and national ID card or passport. But if you may have provided wrong information of any part of your personal information or ID card, you will definitely be rejected by KYC and your account may be rejected temporarily or permanently. However, most casino sites do not require KYC, they deposit and withdraw through Google authentication or email bonding.

Upon reading the title of this thread, I was ready to disagree but upon reading the actual context, it really does make sense.

I wholeheartedly agree with what you have mentioned. If there are casinos that offer various bonuses/rewards with the pre-requisite of KYC, then everything should be faithfully complied with. If a gambler immediately deposits money/resources without knowing this fact, their respective accounts may be held against them without any given explanation or cause. The fact that a person does not submit any KYC documents when the gambling website requires them to do so makes these people at risk of their account.

That is why- if anyone plans on investing in a gambling website, then follow all their regulations and rules to avoid any conflict in the future.

Doesnt internet casinos work like real-world power and control? Another illustration of how humans continually find new places to control and profit. KYC? Just a tool, part of the greater picture.

How foolish must you be to start gaming without verifying your identity? Histories illustrate that we should always know how the game works, especially as game pieces. Some of you are eager to jump into the abyss without checking for water.

Online casinos are risky, but so are many other things we use daily. You must ensure that your involvement doesnt leave you out in the cold. Yes, you should clear KYC before playing. A simple historical lesson.

The rejection of KYC from the casino site was made by the improper submission of the ID proof or Selfie with the ID.If the Document submitted for the KYC will not be cleared,the casino site had full rights to cancel the kyc and ask to resubmit the KYC.The gambler should take responsibility for the KYC submission,So if any problem.He should resubmit the KYC to the casino and the casino will verify this time without any delay.Because delaying huge time will spoil the reputation of the casino site among the gamblers.

In my opinion, every gambler playing in a casino that requires its customers to pass KYC just have to be ready to provide all the necessary documents in the case of large winnings. But it seems to me that the main problem is that some casinos under the guise of processing KYC client just stall time with the winnings, or do not pay it at all citing incorrectly submitted information. Therefore, I would advise to play only in casinos that have a good reputation and have been operating for a long time.

I have not really heard of a casino asking KYC because of the big deposit. Maybe I missed it. Most of what I have read is withdrawing the huge winning causes the casino to ask KYC. There is still a way to get away without submitting. Just withdraw a small amount and still continue betting.

But if there really is no option, then submit the real one. Just make sure you are in a really reputable casino. It's still a bad idea but you get the chance to withdraw the lump sum.

Like it's a complete submission with the gambling platform. It's a matter of trusting the website of your identity. But sometimes, as you know, these websites change their terms and conditions along the year. So there might be changes on the services and policies. So even when you submit all the necessary documents and follow all the rules, they can still do whatever they want as a game provider. It's like you on the matrix, their in control of your participation and your funds.

A gambler when playing in a casino will always have a chance to win a big amount of money even if he is not betting a big amount I have seen one guy winning 20 times in a crash game he did not expect this to happen, glad that he's able to withdraw his huge winning without doing KYC.
KYC is always expected even if you're just playing for a small amount of money, so I agree that you do KYC if you have a chance and if you're going to play in the long term.

What if someone plays with not one but many casinos do they need to verify at all the casinos they play at? Not really, right?

Unless you play at one casino and play there often maybe KYC verification won't be a problem and many people do that.
I ask which casinos refuse KYC after winnings? Of course they will look at the documents sent by the user whether it is appropriate or there are still errors in their personal data.

I don't think if playing in a casino you have to do KYC first unless the casino asks for other reasons, maybe we should do it immediately.

I disagree. Does it mean you will do this on every gambling site that requires KYC?

It's like spamming your identity to a platform that you didn't even sure if you will play there for long or will become one of their loyal and regular users.

I'd rather win first before proceeding with KYC, especially for a win that I got from a no-deposit bonus and related promotions. I already have several experiences winning a decent amount in that new account bonus and yes, I faced KYC as part of the mandatory requirements before I can withdraw the win. Sounds hassle and it really takes several days or even weeks before I am able to receive my withdrawal but what matter is, I received the win no matter what.

Even though there are lots of crappy gambling sites out there, I'm sure that a famous gambling site won't ruin its reputation for KYC-related things.

It might be a good idea, but i never failed KYC so i guess i would like to know why wouldn't i be able to pass it? I mean if i have my paperwork in order and i don't live in a restricted area, what are the things actually restricting me from passing. I know i might some day need to provide a source for my income if i am depositing a suspiciously big amount, but i don't think i can do that beforehand if i need to prove the origin.

Are there some actual cases where people haven't passed kyc while being legit users, because i know only those that are most likely just angry because they got caught. And some other cases are being resolved later on.

This is exactly what I've always done when I ever I register on a new casino, before depositing my first money there, i make sure to be KYC verified first, I do this for majorly any casino I am serious about using for the long term, but for those I know I probably might not return to play there again, I usually don't bother myself about submitting my KYC document for verification, I will only do this on the account that I win some money and to withdraw it, they ask for the verification, by then, I did be sure and ready to battle it out with them no matter how long it will take for them to verify me and allow me withdraw my money .

One thing I believe is that, a casino that is already set its mind on scamming a gambler wont reconsider that thought even if the gambler had passed KYC verification before he or she made his or her first deposit, because there will always be some other excuses that the casino could come up with outside not being KYC verified, but then again, I still agree that gamblers should endeavor to pass kyc verification on casinos before their first deposit, as this most of the time saves the gambler from unseen problems and future stress.

You have a reason but getting yourself accustomed to a very particular casino before completing kyc is what I do not understand. At the glance of every casino website, a real gambler is supposed to be acquainted with the interface. How are you telling about investigating the integrity of the casino before completing kyc. Tou mentioned that they could be scam gambling site and they will have to check your data and do whatever they want to do with it. But I am telling you that it is the same risk be it an old casino or a new one, if you have already submitted their data, you are no longer in charge of the data and you cannot control how they handled it.

That's why it's important to always sign up with reputable online casinos, they won't want to tarnish their image for a few bucks by constantly rejecting appropriate documents for KYC  from customers considering how that will endanger their getting of more clients which is no good for business.
But to avoid some dramas completing KYC should be the next move a gambler should make before thinking of depositing than waiting to learn through the hard way. Be it a reputable or those dubious cansinos KYC is easier done and accepted with ease by online casinos when there's no deposit made to the account since there's nothing like funds in there to protect so why the fvck do people keep ignoring.

If I am going to use a gambling site and I know the site requires KYC before I can withdraw some particular amount of money, then I will definitely complete my KYC first before I start using it. Anything can happen at any moment, you might be lucky to hit a jackpot one day, and if you decide to complete your KYC then, they might end up rejecting it and you won’t be able to make a withdrawal. But if you try to complete your KYC before you start using the site and they keep rejecting it, then you will get another site where you know that your KYC will be accepted.

Some scam gambling sites always use KYC to trap their customers money after winning a huge amount of money. The gambling site will keep rejecting their customers KYC for no reason just because they don’t want to pay the customer the amount won. That’s why it’s better you complete your KYC before using any gambling site, just like you said.

The problem is that there are many gamblers who feel like trying several casinos to check whether they are worth the time and depositing on them, and submitting one's papers just to try a casino is such a big hassle. Eventually, people find a platform they like and they continue to gamble without sending their papers, it can be because we all forget about it or plain laziness.


Was he able to withdraw his wins from the casino without providing additional papers or he had already sent his papers when he signed up in the casino?
 

You have two choices now. Deciding whether to prioritize your money or identity can be a difficult choice to make. That depends on you. Even though you said that if our privacy is a precious thing didn't reject the fact that if casino can frozen our fund anytime. Anyone has their own opinion but it's hard to choose between risking our money or our identity.

True but it doesn't mean we are being far away from the risk for our money being frozen by the casino. As long as the casino can be trusted and that's enough. I think that there was no casino that can resist from the data breach.
There possibility is always there even though the security is always being updated.

There are many casino sites that offer KYC free gambling and allow you to deposit and withdraw up to certain amount without any Kyc verification. so in this case you will not have any problem even if you do KYC later. But when you go to gamble with a big amount you definitely need KYC verification.  But it is better for everyone to play gambling without any kyc with a small amount on a site first and gain experience of that site.  Then if any site seems good and trustworthy then complete kyc then gamble with big amount.  It can be a good strategy to research gambling sites

I do agree with this idea and I believe everyone should follow this to avoid problems later on. I know that a lot of casinos wouldn't create issues deliberately when you have managed to win a large amount because they are trusted and has a reputation to maintain, but a lot of platforms wouldn't bother doing that because they might not be that big of a platform so they would try to do anything to save as much money as possible and this would be an easy way for them.

That's why, if you have the option to verify your identity right after signing up and before making a deposit, you better do it once your account gets approved, you can go ahead and make a deposit and start gambling so that you don't face any issues even if your luck works out.

I agree, to have a smooth sailing experience in a licensed casino, if they required us to do KYC first before playing then we should follow the rules.  But if it is possible to deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing KYC, then why not?

Reputable casinos will not confiscate our funds without triggering their security system.  If their security system is triggered and we are at fault, then no matter how early wes submit our KYC our account will still get banned.  So better to read the terms of service before anything else/

OP's advice would've been much better if casinos did not have KYC levels. When you demand KYC to be done from the start they will most likely get you through the most basic verification where you only send your ID to them. It can become a nightmare later on when they demand utility bills, which is something many of us don't have because we rent out rooms and bills are paid by the landlord.


What happens if their system gets triggered and we are not at fault?
What if we win a lot of money and it suddenly becomes worth it for the casino to try to delay us with KYC and blame their security system. Anybody can fake the logs saying you've logged from a different IP.

There are casinos like stake that don't really require you to pass on KYC unless you're being asked and your transactions had gotten big. So, if you're okay with passing on KYC before doing a deposit, that's fine. But as much as you can see, not everyone is cool with that and that's why they're not willing to submit their KYCs to the platforms that they are up with unless they're being asked for. Anyway, that's a good call if you're going to be asked later then why not do it before they ask you to, right? For some instances, there are users that are being asked for detecting dubious activities and they needed to get cleared through KYC. Although I don't know know on how they're detecting user activities with that reasoning so, better to just comply if you've got funds there and you wanna keep playing on them and also to get your deposit.

In order for this to not happen, casinos that have KYC should make all accounts pass kyc before allowing them to bet. I've said it many times, I am not a fan of KYC but I do not own a casino.

I agree, but this happen to me in a trading site. They unexpectedly requires their members for KYC, I have my assets in there and now I cannot get it back. From then, I will make sure to read the T&C first and always stay updated because sometimes our valid ID's are not okay with them so we need a backup id in case this thing happen so guys make sure to do KYC if your preferred casino ask you to do so.

It's already a norm for casinos to ask KYC when they are withdrawing large amounts of BTC. Once they start asking KYC right after registration, users will already be alarmed for they have no reason yet to submit KYC nor to stay. Gamblers hop from one casino to another hoping for free spins to each.

It's worth it for casinos to delay. So long as they won't get a negative rep from users, they might just delay for months. Its kinda way for casino to ask you to play once again coz maybe this time you'd lost those amount you wanted to withdraw.

The problem with some gamblers is awareness, when they open account in a casino that request for KYC, they may not ask for it initially, Casinos do that to invite people to put money in their custody but I feel it's really bad because it's a trap and gamblers that are not aware of this will think because deposit is working, they can withdraw after winning. The challenge here is that withdrawal button may not function at first and they will think it's because they are yet to deposit but as soon as they click withdraw, proceed to KYC will be the next step that will be required and it very bad, more like trapping players money.

An experienced gamber will look out for any casino they want to use whether they request for KYC or not, I personally ask for opinions and reviews before I use any betting platforms and if they are KYC or non-KYC, it's safe e to use a non-KYC casino than the KYC one because the latter will ask you to even provide additional information if they are suspicious of your activities.

I am also curious, since the casino have list of valid ID to be used in KYC, it is possible that the ID submitted by the player is not on the list of valid ID.  If so then no matter how many times the player submit his ID if it is not the one recognized or required by the casino it will be rejected.


True that, reputable casino have lots to lose if they do this kind of cheap trick.  I believe reputable casino won't compromise their reputation with just thousands of fund.  They are spending more than that in their marketing activities, they will surely will not do things that will tarnish their reputation.

Well, you are already presuming that you are already making some possible big wins and this is why you have said such thing but we know that it is really still that highly frowned upon on sending out documents just because you are trying out to avoid those situations on pulling up those big wins on the time that you do hit up such condition but we know that it is unlikely to happen but since you had mentioned about probabilities specially on luck games then i could say that its a yes but in overall, you wont really be needing to problem this one specially if you are really  that dealing with a site or platform which is something that reputable and trusted for how many years on which pulling big or huge wins wont really be a hassle or a huge problem just because they are really that paying no matter what. If you are really that a fan on attaching yourself or trying out those new casinos
or not so popular then expect that you would definitely be experiencing these stuffs which it do really sucks.In overall its really that totally highly frowned upon in speaking of KYC and never ever that crypto people
or who do mind about their privacy would really be sending out their information before they would be playing. For sure they would be finding another place for them to play on.

I think there are still many casinos that do not require KYC at the beginning, especially for small gamblers, for them it will not be a problem, even the average of us playing at online casinos without KYC all runs smoothly in terms of deposits and withdrawals.
Then why are you worried that the casino will reject your documents if sent? There are rules in some casinos always write no KYC but it will be needed if there is something suspicious then we must do if you want to withdraw your money.
So far I don't go with your idea, still don't want KYC even though I have some casinos that have KYC.

Seems like good advice. Especially if you gamble a lot and expect to have winnings. If you don’t ever plan to KYC then you might find yourself in a stressful situation if you do win, quickly turning a great moment into a miserable experience.

If the casinos aren't asking for KYC then I think we should be glad about it because they are not that strict and if you're not doing something illegal to appear on their radar then it shouldn't be a problem as you are not likely to have some difficulties in your activities along the way including your winnings if you chose to withdraw it from their platform. But make sure that it's just a small deposit so that you can skate through their radar without being a threat to them and if you're someone who is a big roller, a reputable and established casino who asks a a mandatory KYC is for you, just to be safe.

If you gamble at a reputable, licensed and credible casino, things like what you say are very unlikely. although, there is no sure guarantee. however, a reputable and trustworthy casino would not do such things just to affect the bad reputation that could befall them. except, if indeed the data you sent did not pass KYC verification due to several factors. for example, invalid or other documents and so on. that is also why, we must be smart in choosing a casino that has been proven with the reputation they have. at least, for our safety and comfort as casino users.

However, the ideas you share in this thread can be an option so you don't run into problems in the future. However, it doesn't guarantee that in time we might get some problems. there are various scenarios that can happen, it could be purely user error. Or, the casino you choose doesn't have the criteria of being a casino worth trusting. the point is, whatever it is you can do as you say. Most importantly, you have checked the casino you are going to use.

That would make it more fair for both sides and eliminate a lot of problems that gamblers are facing at the moment:
-no more lying about casinos being no kyc and then the same casinos asking for kyc at withdrawal
-casinos using KYC to delay large withdrawals at times of low liquidity
-casinos forcing KYC on users they suspect on gambling from a banned jurisdiction
-demanding conditions that are impossible to meet by those who undergo KYC, like bills in English.

This is valid advice if you don't want to go through the rigorous process of forced KYC. Many people have lost money because of incomplete certification because they couldn't provide the information the casino was demanding after a big win. The casino can give you any conditions if your account has not been approved. Therefore it is important to read the terms of services and get approval for your account before you start any transaction with the casino.


This is a perfect option for casinos to avoid these withdrawal dramas. But they will not adopt or implement such a policy because it might discourage gamblers from choosing their casino. They pretend not to require KYC to attract gamers and force them to give out their personal information when they want to withdraw or win big.

That make sense. A good solution to that is not to exceed the maximum limit of win before they impose a KYC to withdraw your money. It may not always be visible if how much was it, but not exceeding a thousand must be a safer range.
A better solution would be to choose a reputable casino, one that you trust the most and stick playing their then pass KYC before any huge winning happens.
Complying with KYC to a casino is a bit of risky choice, considering how they will handle these data that they have gathered from their clients, and at the same time, it's also an advantage for the casino as they have the right to freeze an account who does not want to comply with KYC. Kind of a bit frustrating for other gamblers who are afraid of the KYC.

Then I would say it's a foolish casino which doesn't care about its own reputation, besides not having a long term vision of the business.

Imagine how many negative ratings a casino would receive from the gambling community after a gambler shared his experience with proof he provided every asked personal informations to complete KYC procedure, still having it denied by the house.

Maybe this gambler is a whale and will never deposit to play anymore on this platform. Moreover, he will take a large portion of another gamblers to do the same.

The problem is that the casino that doesn't requet for KYC will have limit to the kind of games and bets you will play. You can see a casino that doesn't and will never ask you for KYC but they are very strick to the point of kicking you out on suspecting anything, they wouldn't think a second time they don't find you friendly to the casino and they could Limit players that are from particular regions due to regulations and licensed problems.

As for me, my advice is if you must use casino that doesn't request for KYC, please make sure you check their reviews and others experience if it will worth it trying it out and make sure that the game you will like to gamble is a popular one to avoid searching for free KYC casino that you may never see again.

That could be the case for some, but in my opinion such things are deeply exploitative. People should have the freedom to pass KYC whenever they want. Doesn't matter if it's after winning a large amount of money or not in my opinion. Same with Stake for example. Though allegations and isolated cases come around every now and again, generally they have been very particular and accepting of KYC. You can undergo KYC on or before making a bet, and once you passed it they won't give you any trouble.

It all boils down to whether the casino that you played in is reputable or not. Some casinos are just general assholes that is in it for the money and not for the service of entertainment. Some are not fucked in the head and delivers what's in the tin.

I have read up on some issues that do arise from not being able to withdraw or cash out winnings from online casinos due to negligence on the part of the player.
Then they come here to start finding solutions on how to cash out their rewards whereas, they failed to adhere to the terms and conditions of which must include a KYC verification for sure usage.

Anyone player who still avoids KYC currently is either new to the system, or is doing so out of curiosity, but not with real intentions of benefitting from the platform on which they registered.

It is definitely a bad idea to pass KYC verification onto later.

It's not necessarily about avoiding KYC altogether, it's postponing such because they either think it's too tedious of a work, or simply something that they can just delay for when they have to withdraw. In my opinion the problem does not lie to the user doing so, after all unless explicitly stated that you'd need to undergo KYC right then and there from the creation of your account, you're not and you shouldn't be forced to perform verification until you feel the need to do so.

Problem is some casinos that you just can't trust are using these KYC measures to either delay users from their money, or literally just block them from getting it. I've heard of news where accounts are banned after following KYC, all because they wanted to withdraw. This is exploitative and is no way something that you can fault to the user.

This is good advice, at least with any of the more legitimate crypto casinos that you'll find here. Legislation is changing all the time, in different countries all over the world, so you don't want to wake up and find out your whole gambling history has been exposed or your wallet has been seized because you tried to hide behind anonymity. There are genuine companies behind these sites and they are increasingly based in Europe or America, which means that they will be subject to all kinds of financial auditing and they are not going to risk jail time or large fines, if it means protecting a handful of people who don't want to share identities. It actually makes them more likely to offer bonuses and promotions as well, because they know there is less chance of "fake" accounts milking them.

At some point you’re right. Casinos will never stop asking for another KYC verification unless they become satisfied with your identification details. Most especially if you have big unexpected wins, then always expect that the casino will keep an eye on you. Although I could say that asking for KYC is a must protocol for casinos these days, but sometimes we can’t help thinking that casinos would never want us winning, otherwise we will be requested again and again to submit another identification document and it’s certainly become a hassle for us.

Exactly!! The KYCs aren't just always getting fucked up cus anyone's got a huge winnings or deposits; it's usually so disheartening to bear the whole frustration, as a result of NOT providing these identifiable certs on time.
I don't know if the system is usually programed to freeze up funds that bypassed the KYCs or maybe it's usually an emergency lockup until proper verifications are made? ... just my thoughts.
Well, since this processes aren't even verified in a hurry - maybe they prioritize looking up the source to which the funds are released from and so on - then it's safe to say that most casinos don't really try to pull off a stunt with Thier customer's money.

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I don't honestly know why someone would even bet on a site that requires kyc and they know they can't pass it.  As soon as you send your money onto the site it's trapped forever.  The worst part actually is if you win.  Be easy if you lose to just go away but imagine winning huge and then not being able to pull the money off?  That would be a nightmare.

If we are really trying out to go back and check on how fiat based or traditional fiat gambling sites been operating then you would definitely be making use of your own bank account or credit card which it already exposes up

your identity and on the time that Bitcoin/Crypto gambling sites exist then interest is really that high due to being anonymous which we cant really be able to say that there's really that a demand on which it is really that
something that shows up that interest is really there because they can play gambling anonymously but as expected on which government doesnt really like on getting behind and this is why they would really be tending to
regulate each one of those platforms and this is why we do have that kind of licensing and we know that people do always have a good impression into things which are been considered to be legit on the time that you
do find yourself that you are licensed.

Totally opposing that anonymity which we do prefer but this had been that a very common impression or something that people do really look upon. Somewhat on the points given out by OP
is really that valid but we know that crypto enthusiast type of gambler would be directly be avoiding on the time that they do saw on having that initial asking out of those documents or information.

Some may use that Kyc just to delay things and find a hole so thay they can't pay their user which win a huge amount of money with the that's the reason why we always sign up with correct details so that once they ask this we always have supporting documents that can verify our identity. KYC is indeed a protocol now so we shouldn't use any random names so that we can pass on anything that they need from us.

good for you if you trust that the casino will properly secure your personal information, but as for me, I love gambling as anonymously as possible, sure there is that issue that you mentioned, but for me, it is worth it, and I don't really expect to win huge amount of money. anyway, I have been gambling(on, off and casually) for a while now and so far I haven't been asked to perform KYC.

unfortunately these cases are quite difficult, because they start from the casinos themselves who say that they only ask for kyc in cases of suspicious activities but do not talk about the details of what they consider suspicious activities and even when they accuse the customer of having broken the tos they do not show proof After these accusations, it looks like some casinos are using toss as a weapon to confiscate customers' money, this is something very visible because there are many cases of this type, it makes no sense for a casino to allow a person to deposit a lot of money in the casino and the casino doesn't ask for kyc and if that person loses all the money then the casino won't claim anything

but if that person wins a lot of money then the casino will ask for kyc for that person and the worst part is that the casino will not approve the documents at any time, they will use arguments that the document is not visible or it is false, all this to not pay the customer, I have already read many casinos of this type in the scam accusation section. it is true that it is better for people to do kyc before depositing money in the casino, at least they will be careful

Good ideas from OP after many problem faced by gambler with huge amount withdrawing, required or not with KYC on some gambling platform better submit all ID document needed before deposit fund and active play on some gambling platform. After KYC have been approving start gambling and there are not any way for stopping your withdrawing due account not KYC yet. Many problem faced by gambler with their account hold on after trying withdraw huge fund, some gambling platform required for KYC if want withdraw huge amount but not required for first time when creating account and not mention yet in term of service gambling platform rule.

What ever kinds of casino playing, don't deposit early before success approving KYC if won't bad thing happen later from withdrawing process until how difficult account secure after huge amount winning.

Many gamblers are still not comfortable giving their documents to online casino because of the possibility of passing it to the wrong hands or if there's a data breach. So it's understandable why some of us prefer to try our luck first before verifying our identity when necessary. Though, it would be wise to do it beforehand so you can play without worries especially if ever you win huge.

This is really frustrating. If your documents are valid and acceptable, there's no reason to not accept unless you gamble on a shady casino, a scam that won't pay their players. Because if the casino is reputable they won't do such thing just to hold the winnings of their gamblers since it can tarnish their reputation for not being fair and be tagged as scam.

I agree with you here. Don't do it when you already won, do it while you are still on a small balance.
But this is for those who are expecting thousands of dollars of wins, I think I am not in that bracket although I still passed my KYC just to be sure. A reputable online casino would not leak anything or else it will be their doomsday, that's my perspective if they want to keep their business running for a long time. Considering how big online gambling is today, they don't want to just lose the thing that gives them profit in large amounts.
The competition is also growing so I guess keeping it secured, fewer scam accusations, and fewer problems, will be things that could strengthen them. KYC is a must for whale bettors, do it now to avoid regretting it later.

These KYC related tasks should be completed before gambling. There are many gamblers who could not get KYC approved after depositing money into their account through gambling. As a result they failed to withdraw their money. So after recognizing the fact why a gambler would take the risk? Moreover, if a gambler is faced with such a situation, he cannot do anything legally. Earning money from gambling is very difficult for a gambler but if that money fails to withdraw due to KYC issue It hurts more than losing in gambling.

It's not all of people are willing to do that. Even some people valued their identity more than everything. Just try to stick into the gambling site that allows you to play without KYC although you will be getting a small limit. This will far better rather than verifying your KYC first.
I didn't like to verify that first before trying to make sure the website is safe to keep my identity. It's not all of website can be trusted. I think that most of trusted sites were not making KYC as obligation for the new users.
The new users need to verify their KYC if they are betting with significant amounts of money. I can't deny that some sites may use KYC to abuse its users.
It's hard to know what thing that can be trusted. The only sense thing to play only in the trusted and reputable site. It will be enough to make sure our money and identity gonna be safe.

There are some casinos out there that have a complex KYC process....

I saw examples where people cleared the Level 1 and 2 and they thought that was enough, but the moment when they won something big and they wanted to withdraw it, then the casino force them to KYC to a higher level.

This is where the stalling tactics starts, with the casinos not validating the documents for months or sometimes not at all... because they do not want to pay out the withdrawals.  ::)

So..yes, be very careful with the KYC verification.  ::)

If they value their personal data then they should not go anywhere because risk is to high if they try to engage on what they don't like. Much better for people that cannot withstand the stress is to stop participating on a platform that requires KYC to avoid problems. But if they know that there's nothing to lose since they are not well known personalities or have big financial deposits to any other institution then its fine for them to participate but we should make sure and be more selective that casino have high trust rating to minimize the risk of this issues.

If an online casino needs KYC verification it's better to complete it first, The idea that you can still withdraw a certain amount without KYC is not acceptable by me, such a casino can one day say you should have known better and the fault will be on you.

If it's a No KYC casino then you are free to do anyhow with deposits, but if pass KYC is available on the casino please make sure you pass it first, OP is making some sense, some casinos can be picky on identities you provide, you can believe that your passport is the neatest and nothing can decline it, what if a casino denied it?

The first thing you will think is, it's because you have deposited some money, that they are planning to steal that money, but you have forgotten that it's their space, and you have to bide by their rules, if they say no to your passport it stays a no.

I think it's best to always pass KYC if the online casino asks for it, to avoid stories.

I agree that having to pass KYC first is the safest way not to have any problems when it comes to any of the following:

• Gaming
• Withdrawals
• Legal Stuff

You can be characterized as someone suspicious or something because if you got nothing to hide, why hide? It's that type of thing for the businesses that do KYC for sure.

Simply agree that passing KYC is the first thing gamblers need to do when playing on a platform that requires KYC to withdraw. Because in some cases gamblers don't pay attention to this, they just play and then when they want to withdraw they are hindered by the KYC process which will prolong their withdrawal process, some are even rejected and in the end their funds hang there and cannot be used.

Maybe it is a good suggestion from @OP to verify the gambling account before we deposit some money. This is to ensure that we will be fine later, especially with the problem of withdrawing money which is a common problem often experienced by many gamblers. It also assures the casino that we are voluntarily KYCing them because we don't want any trouble for the casino to suspect us.

But before you do KYC at any casino, make sure you have read the terms first and go through the verification process until the casino agrees. Then you can deposit the money. And also, you need to make sure that the casino is trusted so you can be calm about doing KYC and have no problems later. After we do KYC, we can deposit and withdraw the money whenever we want and the casino will process it right away.

But isn't rejecting ID only one possibility a casino has to screw their players? If they really want to deny payouts, KYC is one option they have if you haven't already passed it. Even then they could say that "our security system has detected some irregularities and applied a red flag to your account, please resubmit your KYC" and then still reject it.

The only solution from my experience is to play with highly reputed casinos only. Especially when high stakes players are looking for a comfortable place to play at, the first thing they should research is how that casino handles high payouts and whether there is a history of unsettled denials.

This is a case to case basis. As a normal gambler that plays with small bankroll, I never encounter any problem on doing KYC when I’m asked. Submitting KYC now or later doesn’t really matter if your account was flagged by the security team that related to breaking the ToS based on your account activity.

You account will still be freeze even if you submit KYC earlier since the security will review your betting history. Casino use an automated system that to detect suspicious activities on someone account that usually cause of the problem and not by just winning big in contrary to the general discussion on this thread.

When you register with a casino platform be sure to read carefully the ToS they provide. If you follow their rules then you may not face problems with your deposits and withdrawals later, so you should take this step. If you are going to bet big from a casino then you must do KYC while withdrawing them and this is mandatory in all casinos. But I think KYC system is good for a player because it is mandatory for a gambler to deposit his money in various casinos. If you have done KYC then you won't be bothered by casino sites in future and you won't have to face hassles. So if you complete KYC then if you win big bets in future you won't have to face big challenges and can easily withdraw them.

This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.

As OP said it was better to do KYC as the first step before make involve of your valuable money.Because money is not come easy to us,we need to work harder to earn.It's most essential one for the website to had kyc verification and mostly the kyc sync website was legit.The withdrawal of the winning money mostly not easy in many gambling site.If they was legit, they will allow  the user for the withdrawal from the website.

Their will some terms mentioned by the gambling sites,So you will no need to argue with the website.Some website will ask you to complete kyc to withdrawal, the kyc may not compulsory one to deposit the money.If you fight with the website by skipping the website conditions at the beginning will be leads to the tussle.Most of the website will make the verification process as the first term to the user.

At all times, it is better to just comply than to make standards on our own. We are only users of a platform nd we should respect their rules as for their mnagement. In these instances KYC is creating a struggle, they'd be vocal of the issue in order for you to receive your money. It'll just be taking some time especially if there are issues under your account. So far I have never struggled with KYC procedures. With regards to verifying your account first before making a deposit should be a given action especially if you read their rules. You'd earn nothing if ever  you'd be against complying on their terms. Let us just be preventive as well.I think reading the TOS first before the deposit, would be a better approach on such situations. What if they have other rules which would go against your expectations? There are many gambling sites to choose from and s players we are all free to choose on our own depending on our capabilities of compliance. We couldn't make them adjust for us.

Not all casinos will do this but surely the new ones will never approve your KYC if you have won a jackpot or a very big amount. They will always reject it and make excuses for not accepting your KYC documents and we cannot challenge them. They do this because they know that if they accept your KYC at this point, then they will have to pay you a very big amount which you have won.

Instead of this, if you do the KYC initially without winning any considerable amount, it would be a lot easier to get the KYC approved. I will always prefer to do the KYC before actually playing at the casino, because we have no way to avoid the KYC.

Someone who really cares that KYC steps are not required in gambling will definitely look for gambling sites that do not require KYC every time they want to gamble. But the risk is like what you said because the worst case can happen when we get a big win but can't withdraw money from certain sites if we haven't done KYC.

I have never been involved in a big win at gambling and so far there have been no experiences regarding large withdrawals from gambling sites that I have worked on, so there is not much to say. But if KYC is important as a condition given by gambling sites, then it will be the decision of each individual when completing KYC and if something unexpected happens regarding the KYC.

If the KYC is incomplete and incorrect, the site will definitely give a red signal to the tick. So we can try to repeat and see where the mistake is, don't rush and do it right if you want to do KYC, confirm all the documents needed so that the required identity is complete.

Try to think even further, you must have missed reading the ToS of every online casino. They must have explained in detail about implementing KYC on withdrawals and some of the features that require KYC. Then you skip it and keep playing until you are surprised by the implementation of KYC on withdrawals. Usually there is a maximum withdrawal and if you exceed this limit you will be asked for KYC. If you have already entered and you won and then want to take your money, do the KYC, if you have a problem contact the service, it will be resolved immediately.

Are you willing on doing that even if you do know that your arent that a huge amount gambler or wagerer? For sure you would really be that skeptical on doing things like this considering that in dealing with crypto gambling

then we do really value that anonymity which is something that we do really that prefer and sending out documents or verification even we are speaking with known platforms would really be giving that kind of doubt.
Just like on what been said that if you do want to make yourself that skip out on possible headaches then it would be better that you should really be that wise on choosing which platform you would really be playing on.
Also you wont really be bothering yourself about KYC specially if you are just an average gambler who do make use of small funds or amounts on your gambling activity.

Also, its casinos negligence if they wont really be setting out max bet for possible max win for them to make use of that KYC alibi and disapproving kind of technique just for them to be able to avoid
on paying up the winner. It is really just that a bullshit experience on something like this.

Personally, I'd like to experience the platform first before I go balls-deep into their KYC. I'd submit the necessary ones, then I'll complete the advanced verification later. Once that's done, I can now have the option to deposit huge amounts and not get put into an endless back and forth with the customer representative once I won a huge amount. Saves me the stress of dealing with the reps, and also gives me ample confidence to just play and think of nothing else.

Some find reading TOS is not so important matter to them since they will play the same atmosphere to other casino but little they don't know that there are details are so important to read especially right now where Kyc is important requirements to have by a casino. People should normalized the thoughts of making this as part of their gambling activities since if they are still hesitant and always use fake names to avoid it then for sure problem will rise soon with them for ignoring such important matter.

that's right, before making a deposit, it's important to first investigate the gambling site whether there is a possibility that it will make it difficult for you to make withdrawals with KYC or something like that ^{(especially for those who hate KYC)}

anyway from what i have noticed so far, usually gambling sites will temporarily freeze accounts that make large withdrawals, they will detect those accounts and carry out investigations as to whether there is a possibility that those players have other accounts on that site, therefore i recommend withdrawing slowly land your winning money so they don't detect your account, don't get you in trouble and they claim you are cheating on their gambling site.

True enough. I've seen quite a lot of complaints about how KYC applications were rejected but at the same time, I've also seen some applications that were rejected rightfully so. The rest? The result wasn't shared and the small minority would be people who truly were mismatched to doing something illegal.

In the end KYC is a process that most would take and wouldn't really have issues imo. Most of the issues stem from multi accounting, VPN, and illegal access so really, if you tick any of these, just switch casinos.

I do agree with customer support being frustrating though. It's almost always like that with casinos tbf.

Its not only KYC verification that fails. I've experienced it often times with different KYC providers, the processes differs and can get frustrating very quickly. So if you can't pass it when there's nothing at stake, the frustration increases 10x when there is something at stake if you don't pass.


The rejection is often not from the casino but mostly from their authorized KYC service provider.

I prefer dealing with the verification part later on once i'm sure i'll be playing regularly in the casino I picked because, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, gamblers have several accounts, and verifying every single one could put your information at risk.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?

A few of people has already said it from here, that before they allow the player to deposit is that they've asked already for verification.

Although this could happen for an instance but the chance is very low. It differs from everyone's point of view whichever is preferred and it's got a point.

Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.

Rejecting valid documents is one possibility for a casino to screw its players.  But if they reject the documents because it does not conform to the standard or needed requirement, like submitting ID that is not on the list of valid requirement, the verifies has the reason to reject those documents.


The only solution to this is by submitting the required documents and not other documents outside the requirements.  Even if a person is playing in a very reputable casino, if they were asked for KYC documents and the document submitted is not on the accepted list, then the KYC procedure will be denied.

No reputable casino will do it . It is only the bad eggs amongst them that keeps spoiling their name. However I think what the OP is trying to say is that to have a hitch free withdrawal process is for the gambler to do the first things first at the beginning by completing the KYC requirements. No reputable casino will hold back your winning because of KYC. Infact they want returning gamblers so they'll make the KYC process pretty straightforward.

^ Yes that is right, this way, you can assess whether the casino fits with your preferences and expectations.
Completing advanced verification later makes sense, as it minimizes potential obstacles while still providing a seamless experience if you happen to win big. By taking care of the verification process in advance, you are essentially removing the stress of dealing with customer representatives and ensuring that your focus remains on the game itself. Striking a balance between exploring the platform, safeguarding your privacy, and preparing for potential winnings is a smart way to approach online gambling. Your strategy gives you the freedom to enjoy the games with confidence. Sometimes, delaying verification for privacy reasons probably seems appealing, but it is crucial to recognize that assuming security based solely on deposits and withdrawals can lead to unexpected issues. Even if you have completed KYC, your account can still be locked if the casino perceives "suspicious" activity.

I disagree with you. I have an account in some casinos where I did not carry out the KYC until today, I did not do it for the reasons below:
1. I play for fun, relatively low values and I always convert my winnings into more bets because I don't have profit as the ultimate goal;
2. My bets are mostly sports, so the profit I get from each bet is smaller than other games of chance, I am aware that I will not become rich overnight;
3. No money in this world buys my privacy, I'd rather be guaranteed to remain anonymous and "try my luck" than send my documents and selfies to all casino sites;
4. I am of legal age, residing in a country that is not restricted in the casinos where I play, my documents are up to date, my source of income is legal... I have nothing to fear and I believe that it would be a lot of incompetence for a casino to tarnish your reputation with me by trying to fail me in a KYC process.

Protect your privacy!

How possibility is good decision for verifying document later? what happen when suddenly account get freeze huge amount withdrawing activities will get easily for KYC approving? I don't think gambler want to create multiple casino account because hunting bonus signup is difficult with small offer, better KYC firstly before depositing fund and when huge amount withdrawing there are not get problem from gambling platform or casino required for verifying account.
Since many cases with account suddenly freeze with withdrawing activities, its warning for all gambling platform have to verify account firstly before active playing in gambling platform.

If you believe that passing KYC on several online casino could put your information at risk you shouldn't be gambling on any one casino that requires for verification.

Well it's everyone's dream to keep winning until the casino stop you from gambling, that's an awesome feeling I bet, but stopping you from gambling or not doesn't mean they will use your information for something bad.

You said you can pass verification later and this is the method you prefer, will this stop them from stopping you to gamble on their casino at that later time when you pass the KYC?

What if you win a large amount of money and you are asked to pass KYC before you can withdraw, I am sure you won't leave without withdrawing the fund, whatever the Casino plan to do with your KYC information later will remain unknown, we are back to where we start I believe.

Pass the KYC too early or later, the danger still lurking anyway, also you winning every rounds of game on the casino and they stop you still doesn't mean the next thing is to use your information for bad things behind your back.

I will not do it, I care about my privacy when it comes to gambling activity. I will try to find casinos that proven to be KYC friendly. So far I have never experienced bad things about KYC because the casinos where I play are KYC friendly. I also know my gambling budget and I believe there is no way that I will win such huge amount of money that will make the casino ask me to complete intentity verification.

I always disliked about KYC. I missed the days when we didn't need to do it all. But at this point kyc is becoming nearly necessary I wouldn't gamble about it. If I set new accounts in various gambling websites I am sure to do KYC at first. I think I agree with people about this. If you avoid kyc and make money through website its very risky. Your money may stuck in there which would mean you wasted all your money.

But you understand that at some point, if you manage to win a large enough amount, you will want to withdraw it, and for this, most likely the casino will require you to go through verification, which you will do in this case, you will just play on and not try withdraw nothing?

Even if you play just for fun, at some point with the right result you will have a desire to take some of the profits, this is normal for any successful player.

Definitely agree that crypto casinos should keep KYC to a minimum unless they suspect the player is a politically exposed person or perhaps their transactions appear to be money laundering related. It's usually quite obvious to the casino when users are attempting to launder ill-gotten funds, the players meet minimum requirements for deposit withdrawal (usually 1 or 2x wager of total deposit amount) and then immediately try to withdraw the majority of funds.

Gambling should be for entertainment and not a route for scammers to clean funds after all but I'm definitely pro no-kyc!

At least if we have verified KYC, we can avoid problems of suspicion from casinos because we can win large amounts of money and deposit large amounts of money to gamble. And even when we want to withdraw large amounts of money, there won't be any problems because our gambling account has been verified and the casino will process it without any suspicion if we have violated one of the rules.

Apart from that, by verifying KYC, we could get another bonus specifically given to members who have done KYC, which means we are one of the members who can get it. That means before we do KYC, we have to find a trusted casino that can take good care of all the customer data so there will be little worry from its members. By doing KYC, our status will become a priority for the casino because not all of its members want to do KYC.

I've learned this lesson a few years back. I gambled before not knowing that they will require KYC once you withdraw your money, and had my KYC rejected several times which is really frustrating. So, before getting involved in any gambling sites, make sure to read their terms and conditions to avoid having your money frozen in their website once you have made a deposit or about to withdraw your winnings. Take note there are abusive gambling platforms that will find ways for them not to pay your money back if you've won a lot of money.

Reading Terms of Service is painful so you can reduce your pain by reading FAQs with very basic questions and answers that usually including KYC and withdrawal terms. If you don't find what you need or need more details, you can search with keywords in Terms of Service.

I agree with your recommendation and only want to share some quick ways to scan Terms of Service and FAQs.

If you search and find terms about KYC, you should do KYC before using your account for betting. If you don't want to have account termination, withdrawal suspend later and have vague idea about doing KYC or not. You must clear your minds at KYC-required gambling sites at beginning.

If a casino does not require mandatory KYC, it's good to use your account there. However, you must avoid abusing their bonuses, promotions because they can detect your cheating on their platforms. They always have terms to terminate your accounts or request KYC if they detect cheating or suspicious activities.

Those who want to establish their casino business must allow their clients to withdraw their money after receiving proper information. But casinos that have different demands i.e. plan to withdraw money by operating their business for a short period of time they try to freeze the money of those clients or not allow them to withdraw their money. A major advantage of gambling at a reputable casino is that a gambler can place his trust. But I also think a gambler should resolve their KYC issues before depositing money in any casino platform.

It both has advantages and disadvantages but isn't the most important criteria that the site is legit? If a site is legit in terms of licenses and registration and you win a lot of money on their platform and they still deny the payout, at least you would have a chance to sue them if you've done nothing wrong. If a site is unknown or can't be sufficiently verified, it should be avoided altogether. There is nothing you can do when such a site denies a payout. On legit sites I would always expect them to ask for KYC and be ready to provide it unless the own preference for data privacy outweighs the money that is at risk there.

Even you've completed the KYC after registration, don't think your account is already safe to prevent KYC drama, the casino can demand back the KYC you've sent with an excuse to prove if you're the real person who's control your account. They will say they detect an unknown connection or device, so they want to prove your ownership. And the new drama will begin, after all it's depend on the casino want to pay the winning or not.

You are right, but situations or issues like this dont just come up on casinos, expect the casino is one that is not trusted and possibly managed by scammers.

A reputable Casino can only demand a re-submittion and re-passing a kyc verification only if you access your account with a VPN, something you've never done before, or maybe right from the time you registered, you've always used VPN to access the casino, and some day for some reason, you forgot or willingly decided to access the casinos with your normal IP, such moves can trigger the KYC system where by you will be required to re-verify your account, most especially if you have some big amount of money in pending withdrawal request.

It depends on you, really. If you are looking for a casino that has an options to be verified later on then you yourself should already know the risks that are associated to it and practice being safe on the side as anything can happen to your account. In situations like that, it's much better if you will just pour a small funds towards the account so that you can accept what will happen along the road and if you have a winnings on that, be aware that you should withdraw some of it bit by bit because if you will withdraw it all in one go, they might freeze it.

If this involves playing with a small amount,  I think this shouldn't land you into more scrutiny from the gaming house, unless you have a similar play style with somebody else especially if this is a winning strategy..then most definitely this will attract the attention of the house.

When is the right time to go through KYC, let's just say its safe to do this before depositing any big amounts or better yet after registering account if you know that the casino is going to make you go this process sooner or later.

I think the human habit of procrastinating added to the non-compliance with KYC is the reason for this. Although I dont support either the KYC of gamblers on a casino neither do I support gambling like an addict, I think things might become better as crypto become mainstream and gets acceptance. Although there might be grey areas because this is the gambling section we are talking about.

Frustration seen after getting money locked up because the player did not pass KYC yet is something common. But I do suspect many users to be using tainted money sources and then getting caught to be in this group too.

Not everyone want to verify their account because they're just a small gambler and not looking to make big amount of money in the casino, they're only gamble for fun. But if there's a lucky moment someone hit a jackpot and he need to verify his account, he might give his KYC because he want to withdraw his winning. Successful or not, he will not really that care since gambling is for fun.

A KYC verified account is not a security and wont give any kind of assurance that your account will not be locked after requesting withdrawal.

Passing KYC later is the standard way, and usual way to do it. Your question will be solve in passing KYC, and only a newbie and no brainer will withdrawn all his deposits + huge wins in a single withdrawal request which always trigger a casino to do a strict verification/analysis to the account.

Deposit bonus is not the only thing why gamblers use different casino at least 2-3 sites where they are KYC verified, check my first post. And its a fact, many of us uses multiple casinos, kyc-verified not just only 1.

Those locked accounts after KYC verification are isolated cases only, despite of thousands of good experience there is 5-10 cases such as these which those users knows why. Usually it's always on their end, internet connections — using VPN, from banned countries, banned users that share the same ISP and location, user with the same pattern from banned users, and many more. Although some of these were solved and/or returned their deposits since its against casino terms, there are some who were totally locked. Worst case, users use scam casino, exit-scam casinos, and etc.

Yes, it's true that small gamblers don't need to do KYC because only for small bets to provide identity that would be very bad in my opinion, unless we are big gamblers who often bet with big bets maybe it would be better to verify KYC at the beginning but of course look for a big and reputable casino good on this forum as it prevents the scams that are happening in some casinos lately.

I think never try to play in a small and new casino let alone verify KYC at the beginning at that casino because of course they are still prone to cheating and manipulating the terms, as long as we are still small gamblers there is no need to rush to verify KYC because we can still withdraw money without problems in big casinos, except in small casinos it might be a hassle to withdraw money, after all I like to gamble for fun not for money  :D

It's quite risky because they aren't that reputable to trust our money and mainly our identity to them, anything can happen to a start-up casino as they might dissolve easily in just a few months because the target that they want isn't achieved specially these days that there are already dozens of online casinos that are already known to the community and it will be a total struggle for the new ones to compete with them. In most occasions, some gamblers might try what they are offering but that's for a limited time because one or another, they will always go back to where they want.

While that is true, I would suggest to make an initial deposit of a very small amount to try out the site.
After feeling confident about the site and making a withdrawal from the site, only then we should do the KYC.
Some sites are there just to steal your KYC details and so we have to be cautious while dealing with such sites.
So it's always better to make a very small amount of deposit to verify if the site is genuine and then proceed with KYC.

I don't know with other people, KYC is mandatory for them or gambling platforms, but not with me, I don't like online casinos asking for my identity, even though i won big, anyway i didn't bet big amount, so i don't really care in having KYC.

From one side KYC is good and on the other hand there are bad, maybe KYC must pass first for those who bet in large amounts, it does seem to be required, as you said, but there are many cases that I see kyc not working properly, because users commit violations that have been determined by the casino, but for me if we are not greedy in gambling, I think it's safe even though without KYC, to be honest until now I have never made a KYC withdrawal at the casino I played at, hoping there will be no problems later and it's still safe for me personally.

Even if we play on casinos that don't require verification, they can eventually ask for verification because they update their terms and conditions.

I agree with you as well, there are still risks in passing KYC both early and late, and I only wanted to point out that it doesn't hurt to be cautious because passing KYC at the start doesn't always mean you're in the clear for withdrawing large amounts of money. Also, they could still ask for more information in the future because some casinos have different levels of KYC.

That's quite a conundrum. If the casino is legit and honest - they will not try to scam you by stalling your KYC verification. But if they're scammy, even if you pass KYC first, they could find a thousand other made-up reasons to freeze your funds and deny withdrawal.
So, if you have to gamble at all, it's best to use a casino that operates legally and is licenced/registered in your jurisdiction, in such way you should be able to use legal means to get your money back if things go wrong.
Or just use unlicensed crypto casinos that don't require KYC but are trusted and have been operating for a long time.

To ignore the important things is to ignore the money they put in. Even though they took pains to make the bet at the beginning, when they wanted to withdraw there were many problems that arose because of some ToS that required KYC or some other rules.
Usually also about restrictions on who can access, use of VPNs and such. Reading the rules at the beginning will not take up a lot of our time, it will give us a clear understanding of how the gambling platform works

Could really be distinguished but on later time durations but we arent that dumb not to see those main differences in between those new or old reputable platforms in speaking about legitimacy in speaking about huge wins.
There are really just those people who are really that too mindful about winning amount lock ups and asking about that kyc which it turns out to be standard for most casinos but actually there are really that casinos who do really pay out no matter how big it is as long you havent violated something during on your game plays or simply having no issue then they could really be able to release it right away but of course it would be impossible if there would be no check ups or if it doesnt really turn on the alarm then i dont really see something or any issues at all.

Sending out your KYC before you do play or get involved on a gambling platform is a no go here on crypto space. Just like on what been said that we do really prioritize or really that give importance with our privacy
and sending out documentations is never been that ideal or something appealing. This is why it would be always better that you should stick into reliable and trustable ones and making up some research doesnt
really cost an arm and leg of yours if you are really that minding with this kind of issue.

If your KYC isn't approved yet, there must be some limitation on the casino site. I even think you may not playing on certain games, so how you can win the game? Moreover, it is a rare case to win first but you will pass KYC later. Even it is possible, it should be not in popular casinos. Most casinos must be aware of this possibility, so they have a mechanism to prevent this case.

Ideally, you can't deposit if your KYC isn't approved yet. The casinos must already give a warn to every new gambler to finish KYC first before they make a first deposit. Those new gamblers who make rush deposits, must don't read a term & condition first. It is purely the mistake made by the new gamblers, it is not the casino's fault.

True, it's rarely to see that the gambling site was limiting the account that was only wagering small amounts of money. The strict requirements were only happening for someone who wagered huge sum of money. Sometimes, it's really stressed in verifying our account as the casino demands difficult requirement. It's not all of people are gambling for fun, but majority is yes. People are being safe from verification as long as they were wagering below the limit already set by the casino itself.
It's cool to see that but the winner of jackpot may need to verify their KYC through difficult ways. I saw that some were winning max win, but they were struggling to verify their KYC to withdraw their jackpot.

People can use that trick. No jackpot no KYC.  :D

Yes, I think it's more wise to pass KYC and even know the pros and cons of a platform before deciding to put your money into it, be it a casino or even an exchange. I had that bad experience with an exchange in the past, where I created an account and deposited my coins there, but after trading and trying to withdraw, I realised I had to pass their KYC first before withdrawal was allowed. I tried the KYC procedure, but confirmation took more than two weeks, after which it failed, and I tried it again, which lasted again for about a week and failed. I wrote countless emails to the exchange but got no response. I finally retracted my asset, but it took about two months. So, I think this kind of thing could also happen to gamblers at any casino of their choice, so I agree that one should look out for the pros and cons of a casino before making a deposit. If it's a casino that requires you to pass KYC, do it first before depositing.

I found this not good at some point. If we don't have a plan to keep on playing on that site, that's totally not making sense.

If truly afraid about being asked on KYC, then we can check the Terms and Conditions related to that so we know what to do later on. If not satisfied, we can email the support for a much better explanation of anything related to KYC. I don't find it a good idea to just proceed with the identity and verification process when in the first place, we are not planning to play longer on that site.

Aside from that, if deposits are done normally, without any promotion, I don't find the winnings from that as subject to KYC right way not unless the said gambling site does have a requirement of having verified first before any withdrawal should be made. Fortunately, here in the crypto-gambling world, there are lots of gambling sites that don't need a forced KYC regardless of the winning amount*.

You are right, some people who feel that it's good to deposit and play gambles first before verifying it kyc is the best, they are people who complain mostly in gambling websites, kyc verification needs to be done before involving in any act of things in a particular platform, because I believe that why some people do have issues in a particular platform is because they refuse to follow the instructions of gambling platform I know, so in particular gambling platform you need to study their requirements first before associating or working with them properly.

They get what they wanted, though. People who aren't really taking the time to review everything and not act upon what they find are the ones who are really asking for trouble. They already know the possibility, and they already tried the game. What else do they need to find out? If other people are already submitting KYC docs to the casino, what stops them from doing the same anyway?

Yes, that's absolutely true mate. We must be able to decide to do KYC at the beginning before registering or after we win because casinos can ask us to do KYC whenever they want. And it will also be our responsibility to do KYC, whether we will continue to do KYC at that casino or choose to move to another casino. But the average gambler will complain about this KYC problem after they encounter a temporary hold on their withdrawal process if they haven't done KYC.

We, as crypto users, would be very happy if we could find a casino that doesn't require mandatory KYC because we don't want to hand over any documents to the casino. Moreover, our goal in playing gambling is just to have fun and not to chase victory or other goals. But those who really intend to win must be aware that doing KYC will be something they have to fulfill if they want to process the withdrawal later. And if we don't want to do KYC, we don't need to take part in bonuses and promotions if there really is a requirement to do KYC first.

I don't agree because for the amounts that I play for I have never been KYC'd (sometimes even going beyond the amounts that make you KYC'd according to the ToS, but that would be the subject of another thread). Precisely by doing what I have done, no crypto casino, and I have played in a few, has my personal data. And your proposal to pass KYC a priori doesn't get you out of trouble 100% because if you win a big win and the site wants to delay the payment of your withdrawal, as they usually want to do, they can find any other excuse.

But then again, the people that use these sportsbooks and casinos usually aren't first time gamblers..which means chances are high they have undergone KYC on other platforms without any rejection and they would be confident that they can play now and get to pass KYC later and 95% of the time it works!

But for anybody new to the gambling  🎰  world, word of advice should be KYC before deposit to avoid any future problems when trying to withdraw as these casino's act funny sometimes ::).

Well, you are right, but then, it's all due to the nature or gambling though, and for the fact that people do not take it really serious due to the fact that it always involves very small about of money, most especially for those who are not high rollers.

Like for example, I have just $20 or $50 to play with, it is normal not to consider that a high enough amount of money to warrant me first going through a verification process, waiting days to get verified before depositing that amount and playing, gamblers usually don't see it as worth the stress, until luck hits them and they win some reasonable amount of money..

The truth is that sometimes when we are so desperate to place a bet we don't think about the options to read the terms and conditions in the site, sometimes the reason we face such challenges is because we change our minds from our previous account to a new betting sites, thats why we finds is somehow difficult to withdraw our winning from a gambling sites.
Reading the terms and conditions of any new sites and also passing the KYC will reduce our minds from provoking imagine you won a bet and finds it difficult to withdraw your winnings.

Even if someone uses multiple platforms, they should only go with the ones that are the most trusted and reputable platforms so that they don't face any issues when they do their KYC verification with them. When you are doing KYC verification on a platform that is new in the market and you haven't heard any reviews about it yet, you will surely not have peace of mind and you will feel like your identity documents and personal information might be misused.

So, when a gambler wants to try different games or see better odds at a different platform, they should first make sure that the platform is trusted and then they can go for it. If they want to try a new platform, they don't need to do KYC at first but shouldn't deposit a lot of money.

What terms and conditions you refer to?

Most of casinos only stated the KYC verification will take some time to be verified, some time isn't specific and if you contact the live support, they will say as soon as possible. Not to mention there are few casinos ever solve an accusation was late from the promise because so many excuses and so called investigation which no one can verify it.

The gambling site I'm using doesn't require KYC to start gambling, so you're right; they will only require it later when they choose to, based on their terms and services, and we are obliged to comply. As of now, my account is still normal. I created it in 2020, and I haven't been required to undergo KYC, maybe because I haven't won? Let's see if they will require me a KYC once I start winning.  :)

It's their personal investigation, so we have no choice but to wait, but if it's a reputable casino, you'll surely be treated fairly.

If you can care to tell us which gambling site you're playing since 2020, and you are not asked for KYC  ?

In all these years, you haven't been able to win anything significant as it has been 3 years now since 2020.

Also note they may not ask for KYC if you started to win, usually the casino are more concerned if you want to withdraw the big amount ? If you continue playing with the winning amount, there are fine with it.

You're absolutely right to exercise caution while using platforms, particularly those that are brand-new and haven't shown their utility. I've watched companies come and go; some are legitimate, some aren't so much

To put it bluntly, KYC is garbage. A total, total, irrefutable trash. Alright, so what? If we want to play the game in this contemporary environment, we have to accept this garbage. It's an evil that's essential, yet neither you nor I love it

For the gamblers you alluded to, intelligence is paramount. Sure, give the new games a try and relish the rush of a good wager, but always, always, exercise caution when it comes to where you invest your money. As you said, scout the area before jumping in headlong. Use the excellent judgment you possess and resist the temptation to be duped by any platform

I would prefer not to do KYC until the casino forces me to do it when I have my money stuck at the casino, unless it has been stated in their terms and conditions that I have to do KYC first then I can take the next steps, such as depositing and playing, then like it or not players have to comply but if it has been mentioned beforehand then looking for another casino would be more my choice, because to be honest I don't like KYC and pretty sure many players also feel the same way not liking KYC.
But if there are players who prefer KYC at the beginning so they don't face problems in the middle of the game then that's up to them, and actually, there is a way we don't have to do a lot of KYC, namely by only being loyal to one or two casinos that are trusted and have fulfilled everything needed by gamblers.
Chasing bonuses and other promotions from a new casino can be tempting sometimes but remember that it will make us do a lot of KYC, and they can misuse our data because we don't understand how trusted the new casino is.

A few casinos could allow you to play for such a long time without demands for KYC as long as you dont violates any of there terms of service and you withdrawal vs deposits remains within the limit stated.

So I am not surprised to see that the players could go all the way since 2020 to date without being asked for KYC,  but then he must have it at the back of his mind that at some point he will have to do the KYC if the casino stated KYC in the terms of service.

As for me, I am confident to do a KYC after I have done enough research and found out that the casino is legit. Only those shady casinos are going to do what you said. In the era of KYC, I always make sure that I verify my account first before getting started. I recommend other people to do the same. It's only for our own good.

Yes, not all times it's in the casino but sometimes it's about us. Our pictures are blurry so it is rejected and we did not follow their other instructions. So it's better to observed first than to blame easily. If it takes a long time to approve our KYC, or we simply find it hard to pass them and there are no money involved yet, we can always moved on to the other platform.

I have a bad experience about it. Most of the gambling site need to pass KYC. But i was first time for gambling site. So i was not experienced. I was deposited $70 and played some bet i made $110 But when i tried to withdraw then i saw problem. Need to submit KYC and pass. I submitted my information to pass KYC but several times it failed then i was need emergency money. But without KYC not possible withdraw. It was big problem and hassles for me. But after submitted 7 times my KYC approved. And then i was capable to withdraw money.  So i will tell everyone, in gambling site when you creat account then complete KYC it will be very helpful for you. And you can easily withdraw your fund.

It not about KYC it's about the activities of the gambler that warrant the implementation of kyc in casinos and lately,  due to the increasing number of violation of the terms of service of the casino by the players e.g in the area of multiple account ts to claim bonuses,  this have been frowned upon by casinos but up till now,  some gamblers still endurge I such abuse of casino system.

So this are the kind of attacks that warrants for the implementation of kyc and in doing that,  casinos know each and every players activities and once the see or suspect fowl play I the account activities, there can demand for KYC verification from such player.

People should really be at least trying out to comprehend on what are the probable cause for those possible kyc requirements on which this is really that pertaining with those possible violations or illegal activities

done by some players on which it is really just that right that they would really be having that kind of right on asking for some verification if ever they would be finding some violation which it is really just that a common approach.If we do try out to compare to those sites who are really that asking some KYC on the time that you do reach out that certain deposit or withdrawal threshold then i could say that it is really that totally different because the situation above does really only just pertain about certain conditions or happenings on which means that if ever you are playing on the right way and doesnt violate out something
then you could really play all you want without having that risk on being asked out for some kyc.

This is why it would always falls down on peoples preference when it comes to choices of the gambling site that they are playing with,as much as possible then you would really be
that prefer on sites that having no strict KYC compliance.

The people should prepare the casino which mandatory the kyc for the safety for their money in future.Mostly the casino won't ask the kyc verification at the time of deposit and playing.So it doesn't mean,the casino support the money laundering.Mostly the kyc is mandatory at the time of withdraw funds from casino,So the casino site made the end check for the money laundering activities.Kyc was the important in the gambling site.Most website which mandatory kyc will be good for long term gamblers.

Some gamblers are just overreacting with KYC where they think if that is being asked, it will now be prone to identity theft or something. In that case, they can just proceed and play without doing such. Being asked about KYC in gambling sites is common nowadays in fiat casinos that's why these crypto-gamblers are overreacting to that kind of requirement because obviously, they are not used to doing it.

Simply put this way, if a crypto-gambler doesn't want that kind of stuff, then stay on their preferred gambling site where KYC is not even a big deal and don't engage in other sites where they might think KYC will be a mandatory requirement. I'm in favor of what OP wants to make a KYC first before deposit because I found it more not user-friendly, especially for new users not unless stated otherwise right at the registration period that KYC is a must.

Their gambling sites, their rules. It's not that gambling sites should adjust for what we want.

The notion that a gaming license adds legitimacy to online casinos needs to be dispelled. It's not true. The gaming licenses of most of these casinos have aren't worth the paper they're written on. Most are from Curaçao and the barrier to entry for a license is paying a yearly fee. When evaluating a casino, overlook their gaming license entirely. Rely solely on user feedback. If the casino has none, don't deposit.

Always look for reviews or feedback from users in this forum to avoid fake reviews that we might encounter if we look for reviews from out there or from search engines. By looking for reviews from users in this forum, we will avoid scam casinos that will be useless to us because they will take our money without wanting to process our withdrawals even if we have done KYC at their casino. Always looking for and using casinos on these forums will be better than trying to find casinos from out there because we might need help finding truly honest reviews about casinos.

It is that this is ideal, but I do not know if you have noticed that in some places, and it seems very unwelcome is that for everything it is "deposit and you will get a 100% bonus" or "deposit" that is something that in most Some of the casinos that are not in the top 5 or top 10 do it, they do it to be able to capitalize and obviously they want them to make the deposit by taking the bonus so that they have more option to retain that money, well it is their way of getting players and that they can stay In the casino, that is respected in their way of marketing, or whatever, but at least I hate to see that for anything, the warning comes out big: "Deposit now!" because they should say in a big way "meet your KYC requirement so you can deposit and withdraw your money without problems", but I think that neither with aladin's lamp nor with the dragon spheres they can or will do it, they are interested in depositing and that they then fight to comply with the KYC to be able to withdraw.

Well, I have mostly seen these cases in casinos that are relatively new, that have hardly been on the market for long and still do not have an apparent reputation, the difference with the old casinos or the casinos that have more reputation in the forum is that they do not need to ask for it because your reputation speaks for itself and that is what it represents, of course, for example in the case of the best casinos on the forum or what I consider to be the best in the forum such as stake.com things are different in the KYC in their There is no problem with the required levels, because they are casinos that have a lot of time and that pay the money that the players win. I can say the same about bitcasino.io, rollbit, dulebits and all the casinos that are particularly active here on the forum and want to They have a great reputation, those casinos don't have that kind of system or they don't need it, even though it could be a great option if they wanted to do it, something like to give an example, of course this is something I'm speculating, but it's not that they should do it, as I said before, everyone manages their company and their business model as they wish.

It is really just a normal or common approach on having that in depth review would be always recommended on which you cant really just simply throw off some deposits on new sites just it is really just that look appealing.
Always recommended that you should really be that having that research first before doing any action because if you do miss out on doing so then you would really be definitely be possibly putting up yourself on such risks on being scammed or being victim by some fraud just because you had missed out on doing such thing. It doesnt really cost an arm and leg for someone to be able to make some research in regarding on things which is speaking about legitimacy or something that do talks about being credible and paying. About KYC then it is really that already that inevitable since everything that do exist then government would really be always finding out ways for them to be able to regulated and able to make those places or platforms/companies to be that getting in line or abide rules and conditions. On the time that it would be asking out that verification then there's nothing you can do but to comply specially if you are on a situation on which they had locked or pending out your withdrawals or winning. KYC on the beginning? This isnt something that people would love to see on the time that they would first play on a site. This is why most of platforms now does only have that kind of TOS that they would be only asking out on some various circumstances.

People don't like verifying their accounts and that is causing alot problems to the participants of gambling in a particular gambling site, what a platform needed in gambling is that you have to know their kyc is necessary and I believe that anyone that have done their Kyc have no issues to that particular platform but gamblers does not show concern of verifying their accounts expect that they have issues of withdrawing their money. So it's good to work in accordance with your platform not by complaining when everything is getting late to resolve

For gambling platform many people disagree for verifying their account and if vote opening more than 80% of respondent won't to submit their document ID for verifying in gambling platform. Its reason why some of them priority for active in gambling platform not required for KYC but in the reality when huge amount withdrawing they need to submit and verifying account. Actually many gambler have play with some gambling platform are free withdraw or deposit fund without required KYC, but withdrawing issues and account suddenly freeze there are not have many option except for verifying account. Important points for some gambling platform free for KYC not make difficult one day later when gambler want to withdraw with huge amount.

If you don't want to give out your private information to casino then don't use those that demand everyone to complete KYC on their platforms before they can make withdrawals. Gamblers using a casino without verifying their KYC are taking a risk that they might regrets.

When you newly registered, casino will be interested in verifying you very fast and that's why it's better you do your verification that period so you don't get rejected. When you wait until you need the KYC verification, casino can delay verifying you because of extra screening.

Unfortunately we can't escape doing KYC on casino platforms anymore as many of the popular ones that we use are now requesting for them because they're demanded to do so by the governments to avoid illegal activities been done on the casino while been anonymous.

If you really want to try gambling in a new casino, you should use a small amount of money to see what experience he will have because we don't know how the system is in the new casino. Also, try to find reviews from this forum or other places where you can get an honest review of the casino, but if it's a new casino, it might be difficult to find reviews. And we should not try the new casino because we don't have any information about the casino. We also want to avoid scams from the new casino, so we only use the money we can afford to see how the casino is.

If the new casino asks us to do KYC at the beginning of registration immediately, we should postpone doing KYC while making sure that the casino is really good and can be trusted because by doing KYC at a new casino, we are already taking risks, whatever can happen. And it's true that KYC has become like an obligation for crypto gamblers, so we have to be careful and selective in choosing the casino. Try to read the rules in the casino so we can understand them, and remember to contact the support service if there is something you want to ask.

New casino nowadays already ask KYC before you can deposit or unlock full feature of the casino. This is the reason why I seldom use or visit new casino to play and just stick to my regular casino that gives me satisfaction.

Why do we need to use new casino while we already have established casino that already proven to play. The bonus they offer is almost the same. Most of the new casino that offers too good to be true bonuses usually turns out to be scam.

Good post by OP and good advice  8)

As an avid player myself, I will quote Catch me if you can - "I concur".

Usually gamblers do that to seek new experiences and luck, sometimes a person needs to try another casino to find his luck, even so it is not required to complete KYC at a new casino, because it is very vulnerable to fraud, as usual new casinos always give bonuses to attract new users to play gambling and seek luck on their site and finally make it difficult for new users to withdraw when they have won big.

I often play in new casinos but as a small gambler I just test the game not expecting to get a big win sometimes when I'm lucky when I win I have to withdraw money, after all small gamblers won't be difficult to withdraw and have to complete KYC, except for big gamblers so never try a new gambling platform to test your luck with a big deposit.

I agree with you on that mate. Having a plenty of casinos to play with isn't really the problem because the problem will only start if you sign on each and every one of them with your confidential information as that path will surely lead you with potential problems specially if you have signed up with the new ones whose security isn't that thick enough to prevent some hackers to phish your information.

It is not only about the hackers, but how does anyone know whether a new casino is dealing with private data in a reliable way? That's why I believe that players are usually better off when they stick with the online casinos that have established themselves for a very long time and have a good reputation. I know that sometimes these welcome offers are so tempting and that is why players go for it and put their money and data at risk with new casinos, but it is usually not worth the hassle.

If this is a requirement with the site then its better to comply especially if you want to gamble smoothly and get your money out without any hassle.
Although there are still cases that even if you comply with their KYC and manage to deposit some funds but if you are going to withdraw your winnings there are still chance that the site will ask for other KYC and usually this is where many experience a problem, its either about the restrictions of the site or you can't comply with the additional requirements.

Look, I understand where you are coming from - being - Get approved, get instant withdrawal capability, then play, win and leave seamlessly.... However, submitting your ID to every single casino that you play on...that's just asking for data mismanagement issues and potentially even identity theft down the track.

The fact is that if you are using a casino that requires your personally identifying information, you should cease using it. If that means you can't gamble, then don't gamble. Once you mess with KYC, you aren't just gambling with your money anymore, you are gambling and risking potential future damage to your identity.

Use web3 and/or privacy friendly casinos. They generally do not require ID and with good due dilligence, you should be able to find ones that are legitimate. It must just take a little bit of extra digging and time.

The better way to get away from the scam is,one should use the old gambling website and don't change your mind for the few dollars of bonus,the bonus was the trap.The new casino had easy to the hackers to hack because the developer may use the old algorithm to the new games.When you use the gambling site for longer period,So you know it was legit one.Even you can hold your money in the gambling site itself.Most of the times,the bonus will be the tempting one for the gamblers.Some of my gamblers friend use 5-6 website in a week and find the new one on upcoming week.

Some casinos still allow us to deposit money to gamble before the casino finally asks us to do KYC. It seems that this has become a common thing in many casinos, although not all of them will immediately ask you to do KYC at the initial registration. And we also have to adapt to changes in regulations like that, and we can look for casinos that still allow us to gamble first and do KYC later. I rarely visit newly launched casinos because they still need to explain many things.

Maybe after a more detailed explanation from the casino representative regarding this KYC verification, I will decide to use the casino for gambling or wait for reviews from other members. But it's better to wait for reviews from other members who understand this better so we won't understand the difficulties later. However, the scam casino often shows the truth after several members experience difficulties after using the casino to gamble for a while.

Gambling platforms should be well acquainted by us because this will help us along way to avoid any unnecessary assumptions we do give them by concluding from our end without the approval from the conditions being stated by the gambling websites, there have been alot of cases on KYC acceptance and rejection from using a casino, if you adequately proved yourself to to true you will not have any challenges beca you will provide them with every required documents needed for their verification process, if you don't then be ready to dance to the tune of the consequences attached.

No, the new gambling websites might just themselves be the scammers and tell you it was some hackers who are to blame and then they apologize and think they can get away with it. Since you can't prove them to be guilty, you have to swallow that pill and write off your money. That is why in many cases the risk to go for a bonus on an unknown website outweighs the opportunity especially when you already have accounts with reputable platforms.

 Procrastination is the reason why alot of people make mistakes I know most times this casino makes it very stressful for customers due to poor customer service and bugs in their servers, but asides that people should learn to do the right thing at the right time so as not to complain when their mistakes affects them in a negative way, if a casino requires you to submit your required documents on registration it's best you do it or if you're not comfortable with their requirements there are other casino's that doesn't require kyc that you could consider patronising  instead of doing the wrong thing and complaining when they're at fault.
 The kyc process is a very to some casino's because they need it to help maintain the security and know  the identity of their customers incase of illegal activities.

It still baffles my imagination on how a gambler will open a gambling account with a gambling site and won't consider completing the comprehensive requirements that's needed for the verification of his account before going further to deposit money into that account for gambling use. Only to get back wailing and throwing tantrum when gambling fortune smiles on him he won an appreciable sum of amount of money and is being restricted from making withdrawal by the gambling site sighting his incompletion of kyc to that account.

 Every institution has their a module of operation and any client that doesn't appeal to it's operations is free to check for an alternative that meets his need, and not to forge ahead with that which he's not appealing with. Maybe some of these gamblers ain't aware that it's illegal to make withdrawal from a kyc required gambling site whem you haven't completely kyc to that account.

They will only ask you for additional information once they notice an unusual event in your account. But I can't blame them either especially for reputable gambling sites because what they want is to keep their site out of illegal activities/transfers which could ruin their reputation as well. That is why if we are afraid to comply with our KYC, better not to try gambling sites that require this. This explain how important is to read their rules before using their platform in order to avoid misunderstanding and withdrawal problems.

If this will be the case then we should make sure that we're giving our information to the right casino, which is reputable and trusted enough by the public specially the gamblers so that our funds and as well as our identity is safe and sound. Submitting and doing the process indicated by the casino was never a problem, that is why we should be aware first so that nothing will be wasted.

And if the casino still asks for another KYC, then we should comply to it again so that we can play again. There's nothing to be worried about if in the first place we're not doing something wrong in their house because we will not be on their radar if we're just a regular gambler.

In general, I am not a KYC's supporter, but if the gambler won an impressive amount of prize money, then here, there is no other way out but to go through this procedure. But to do this before you win, if you win at all, you would never do it. Why transfer your personal data to the casino without a good reason? You have not won anything yet and whether you will win at all, the question remains open, and you are already disclosing information about yourself. I consider it pointless. Verification at KYC in a casino without a reputation is also a stupid act, and even more so, playing them for your own money. If you are lucky with a win, then only KYC, otherwise - no. Problems need to be addressed only as it arise.

Indeed, procrastination is a trap that many people fall into. "Opportunity cost" refers to the price of passing up the next best option when making a decision. Procrastination has an opportunity cost in the world of casinos as well; after all, if you don't fulfill the deadlines, you could lose out on earnings.

KYC is an important procedure. Accountability is key; bureaucracy is only one aspect. In order to reduce dangers like money laundering, casinos must confirm your identity. There are alternative casinos with more lenient criteria if the KYC is too much for you to manage. But keep in mind that those casinos could have their own disadvantages, such as poorer security.

It everything comes down to choices and trade-offs, just like in life and in economics. If you put off doing something, be prepared to pay the price. Thats all there is to it.

It is logical, but you know that many casinos delay payments (or try not to make them at all) under the pretext of passing the KYC? You can always find some kind of violation in the documents/compliance with the rules of the casino, etc. if it is necessary. Therefore, there is a logic in it to go through the KYC in advance in order to get guarantees that the casino will not deceive you here.

It would be a big problem if you're evading KYC and eventually, you got so lucky that you made such huge winnings in a day and you would already know the chances that are waiting for you if you try and withdraw those funds out of the casino. Such casinos will surely not think twice just to get out from the situation and will use what you hadn't submit information, that's their upper hand.

I hard a very bad time on an exchange some time ago and this is because of this kind of issues,  instead of me to pass all my verifications,  I went ahead to make a deposit before submitting my ID for verification,  and while I was at that,  the scan app continue rejecting my drivers license and this continued up until now,  but I have my fund locked up in the exchange.

But I blame myself,  I should have passed the verification first before making a deposit,  I have always embraced the culture of always going through verification in all the casinos that I have used before but it totally escaped my thoughts this time around.

Ive had this in the past, I failed to see the company was reluctant to allow valid withdrawals.  After submitting a driving license and photo id they wanted an original birth certificate to be sent by post, something not originally asked for.   So even after having kyc it was never enough hence I had jumped the gun assuming I could withdraw.
   The best solution might be arbitrage and making two bets on a game for or against, if you lose on the account you cannot withdraw from but win elsewhere this might equate to a withdrawal you cannot otherwise physically make.

I’m skeptical on why they will need to have original copy of Birth Certificate just to verify your identity while valid ID and pictures holding it with current date is already enough to prove the owner and ID of account. This kind of verification is in the highest form toxicity just to withhold the players funds. Can you share what casino do you experience this so that we can avoid it?


But what if you win on the casino account that holds your money?  Joking, This is indeed the solution but you will lose a little bit on your bankroll due to the negative EV bets unless you can find bet with +EV that perfect for arbitrage.

It's a easy solution to this, if you can deposit and play no matter the amounts, you should be able to withdrawal also, if they detect any problem they should stop you at the deposit and then require KYC.
Then you can choose to either get deposit back, or do KYC and then start playing and then if you win big, they should not say anything just cash out your winnings, I can't say exaclty how it should be.
But it for sure it's possible to create a thing to make things like this end, but the easy answer is they don't want to.
They select some big winnings and will make that money theirs no matter what how honest the player are or how much KYC he send them, cases like this we have proofs of.
But still.. they running and laughing in the mirror every morning, it easy to scam people when you don't need to see your victim in the face I guess.
And when it fill your bank account to the top, I guess it's also get's to be an addiction, many online casinos should get their license withdrawal long time ago... but everything is corrupt.

This is a easy method to adept, trust me. But it would make all the casinos winnings a lot a lot a lot less, so they rather act sneaky so they can make more money. No moral. No respect. Only money money!
This is disgusting humans form the start to the end!

And a lot of people promote this sneaky casinos here I see but still has a opinion, that is funny.
I am not saying that people that do the promoting here are bad humans or in at the scam, but I think they are a bit hypocrite.

That's just my opinion on this and not any fact, so people don't need to take it personal.  :-*

I've seen a lot of issues like this when there is mandatory KYC. I mean is that if others won, that is where the casino is somewhat not giving your winnings by not passing your KYC. Even though it is already clear and all requirements are there, they probably manipulated it after you've just deposited and won. That is why you should always do the KYC and your winnings will follow, so that it is clear that if the casino won't give your winnings, then it is a complete scam.

You have almost completely described my situation.

Being a beginner, I came to play in one of the Russian poker rooms. It was called Poker. I didn't even think that I could win anything, so I didn't go through the KYC as soon as I entered my first deposit. And I do not know how it happened, but I took second place in one of the tournaments, winning 94 dollars!
Of course, I immediately decided to withdraw them, but then I was waiting for a trick from the casino, which I did not expect: the casino began to reject my documents, citing their poor quality or insufficient information.
And I still haven't withdraw those money.

Therefore, I advise everyone to think about the passage of the KYC immediately at the casino.

If you're just looking for fun while only gambling a few of your funds then not having through KYC is a good move because those money which I bet are the ones you can just afford to lose in-exchange of the fun and entertainment you're having and if you win big, I think that is where the problem would exist and that is why you should only gamble less in-exchange for small winnings so that you can just skate your own way without them detecting you.

It's still a dilemma as for now to pass KYC now or later. Play with low amounts of money on a reliable casino platform to avoid KYC verification. Even though if our account gets limited and we can pass verification safely without worrying to much about the data breach. This is a never ending problem related to the casino. People just need to be sick with a reputable casino. Untrustworthy casinos can still deceive you even if you have passed KYC verification.
Seeing so many cases related to this problem since a long time ago in the scam accusations section.

Its not good ideas because created multiple account is not allowed in some gabling term of service rule, actually its good planning with your opinion how take care when something bad happen with account suddenly freeze. I don't think any gamble want to get risk created multiple gambling account and want to bet for both account although to get bigger chance for winning, what happen later if both account get freeze and how ideas to solve it when required with KYC.
will allowed use one document ID for submitting to both gambling account? not get one but both account gambling will freeze immediately when adopting with your ideas in gambling platform.

@STT was referring to two accounts on different platforms and I understand what he means. He said that you place one bet on platform A (which denies your documents) and one bet on platform B on the same even, but counter to the outcome of the bet on platform A. You would have to look out for bets with two outcomes only and with low spreads. It is essentially like a withdrawal from platform A, but it comes at a cost every single time because the odds are usually not that good (or the spread of the odds between the two different outcomes is too high).

It turns out that there is no dilemma. After all, if we play in a dishonest casino, then we won’t get our winnings even with KYC, even without KYC. But if we play in an honest casino, then we will receive our winnings after we pass the KYC. It turns out that if you look at it this way, then there is simply no point in going through the KYC in advance (including because the chances of a big win are low).

Dishonest casinos then in any game by the user will be cheated they only intend to highlight the customer's money so why KYC first if we already know even the casino is dishonest?

I understand this statement, even if you win but play an unfair casino then the winnings will be withheld for various reasons as the user cannot do much even though he has passed the KYC.
Yes we already know a fair casino here, so no need to worry even if we don't KYC the winnings will still be ours.

Yeah one of the scariest things I've seen people do is fill out, or try to fill out their KYC stuff after they've been gambling for some time or after a big when and needing to pull funds out, then realizing in order to do so they've got to fill out all the KYC stuff..and then get frustrated /stuck not realizing they were going to have to do this.  Best to get it out of the way ahead of time.

I've had some friends run in to trouble with this who "game" of KYC.

True, but there are situations when you just want to have a good time spending a few tens of dollars on slots or poker, and mentally say goodbye to this deposit. And therefore do not pass the KYC. But suddenly you win again and again, and now the deposit has tripled. And you will already want to withdraw this amount from the poker or gaming platform, and the KYC has not been passed. Which may entail the situation that I described in the previous post. This is a standard situation, I had this in poker.
I think you will be agree with me - you never know for sure how the deposit that you have allocated will play just to have a good time, without expectations of a big win.

And we can't refuse it and must do KYC to withdraw the money. If we don't want to do KYC, we have to leave the casino and will not use a casino that requires us to do KYC. For crypto casinos, it will eventually become an obligation for all their customers to do KYC because of regulations or rather pressure from regulators who want to supervise crypto casinos and their users.

The multi-million dollar gambling and crypto-casino business is thriving, making regulators feel the need to exercise tighter oversight than ever before. Regulators are concerned that crypto casinos are used as places for illegal activities such as money laundering or others, so they ask casinos to perform KYC on their users. I don't know whether, in the future, crypto users can still play gambling freely without having to do KYC or whether the demand for doing KYC will be even more stringent than now.

That's why, as gamblers in this industry, we must first learn to read their terms and conditions or rules regarding these things. We know that most gambling casinos today will say no, but in the long run, they will require you to submit when you release a large amount of winnings on their platform.

But I have seen something now,  even if you make a deposit, you can withdraw it immediately without doing anything; you need to meet the wager amount first before withdrawing. I'm not even sure, but it seems like I read something here in the forum about the testimonial of someone who used it and tried it.

But I have noticed that the burden is shifted onto the player more and more often even in this forum although everybody knows the minor and major issues with casinos.

A rule I have always been in favor of would be to require KYC before a deposit can be made. I would immediately go for it if it is a reputable casino and there are no massive complaints about them all over the place. The practice to advertise with no KYC, let someone deposit and then out of a sudden force someone into KYC is wrong.

Another issue is that casinos barely provide evidence themselves whereas everyone attacks players who complain about denied payouts.

By the way, does anyone know the reason why some casinos would not let a player withdraw a deposit to the same address because they first require the amount to be wagered? It can't be protection against money laundering, can it? Because if I use the same method to the same address/account, how would I have laundered anything? In my opinion this is really to get people stuck. If someone deposits 100 USD and decides to withdraw it for whatever reason before having placed any bets, what would the issue be?

maybe for scam casinos it will do this but for reputable casinos i am sure there will be no such manipulation. because reputable casinos usually always ask for KYC earlier, even if its only level 1, to continue making deposits or withdrawals and regarding winnings at casinos, this is actually just about luck, maybe it can be manipulated, but trusted casinos do not that because they prioritize customer satisfaction, so casino not will manipulate regarding the KYC.

By the way, there is another huge disadvantage of going through the KYC in advance: if we are dealing with a dishonest casino, then they can make money by selling our data to third parties. Judging by the fact that there are a lot of similar goods on dark markets, many services earn money by this (I don’t believe that all of them were “hacked”).

Good point, but even legit casinos (or other businesses) can have customer data information "leaks" which I suspect, a lot of times, could be due to some rogue employees stealing and selling data on the dark market. This happens on all levels, including banks.

You would really be able to tell that you are dealing with a shady casino on the time that there's sudden changes in terms and regulations in regarding about KYC. This is why its always been that recommended that you
should really be that able to read up with those TOS and as much as possible it would be better that you should take up some screenshot so that if there would be some possible alterations then you would be able to counter back on what they are  trying to implement on which if there are some notable or obvious changes then you could really make out that kind of argumentation which not like when you havent done or having those read ups and this is why it would really be that ideal if you do have that kind at least that behavior on knowing something so that you could really be able to make some reasoning later on if ever things turns out to be shit. KYC before you could be able to play is highly been frowned upon on this market on which it would really be just that normal that crypto casinos would be just be having on the current state of compliance which including out those potential KYC if ever you do violate something.

Before using any casino we should read the terms and conditions of the casino and when it's too much for you to read, just read the FAQ section and understand how the casino operates because they always have the rules they follow clearly written out but people ignore them.

Unless a casino is a scam casino, they won't write something else in their terms and condition and do something different. Because if they do that, you can sue them for it therefore they're always careful to follow the terms and conditions they have set for their customers.

Casino make it care if they'll allow you withdraw without KYC or not and some fo further to explain the reason why they might request for additional verification if they suspect something not been right with your withdrawal and to avoid all this, just pass your KYC on time.

So many gambling platform doesn't required kyc and some people I know even though kyc is needed some people do refuse very their accounts because they feel not to expose their identity, but for me I cannot make such mistakes by not verifying my account in any document, so documentation of identification is necessary for me in a platform but people disagree or refuse to ensure that KYC is normally verify in the account and when their funds is being seized they will start complaining of platform have seized their funds

Correct. One of my email addresses was already breached but I don't think it's because of a gambling site. More like a phishing style so I trashed that e-mail. The same thing could happen to us here on gambling sites and it might be worse if we pass all the documents we have. This is why we should select carefully what or where online casinos we will entrust our identity.
Luckily, we have so many options now. There's Stake.com and Sportsbet.io, and there's actually more that I won't list here because it's going to be long.
They offer services that many users in this forum believe to be great and their trust rating is higher than other sports betting or casino sites that we see on online advertisements outside this forum.
KYC is a dual edge sword, it could also ruin us if we do not choose carefully on where we will provide it. And I think that is one of the main reason many crypto enthusiasts doesn't like the idea of going through it.

      -   I think that if there is reputable casino gambling here in the crypto space, there seems to be no problem. So far, my gambling experience here in the crypto gambling business has been so good. Maybe the only ones that can do such a thing are the casinos that have bad plans for their casino players.

Because often, from what I see from what I read here, when others release a big winning from their gambling, the other gambling platform that said that there is no KYC will suddenly require it in the end, and after the KYC that is requested is given, there is still follow-up needed. Reputable casinos in the crypto industry are not like that.

Giving KYC up front doesn't mean anything. When you go for a payout they can ask for a video selfie. Play at no KYC casinos is the only safe way to do it.

Correct, the casinos might have great reputation but it does not guarantee that data leaks will never happen. We all know that the employees in the casinos are all human who may have a greed to make more money by doing illegal thing. In this case, once it is happening, the casino cant do anything except firing the employees. How about the players whose data has been sold by this naughty employees? There will be nothing to do except accept the fact and casino also cant do anything except apologizing of what is happening.

If a casino decides to scam you or if a casino has that plan in their back of their heads when they actually set up the casino, it doesn't matter how many screenshots you have and they will still do it. It would help to prove the case though and protect the rest of the community, but from my experience or from what I have seen and heard, they would bend their TOS to whatever they need those TOS to stand for or mean. Sticking with the most reputable and established casinos is the way to go for me. Or with those where the stakes are very high if a case becomes public like here on Bitcointalk, but even here we had cases of casinos disappearing or shutting down when nobody expected it.

Hmm this is quite interesting as I never actually thought of these situations from this view of yours but now that you have sated this, I think I can concur and relate to this because these casino which reputation aren't that big can just claim that they were hack while instead have forward details of their customers to other bodies so they can make with it to defraud these individuals or other ways these information can be valuable.

It’s better to pass KYC before using a casino if they make KYC mandatory for withdrawal, but it’s just a scam casino that will reject your KYC after winning just because you win a big amount of money. Any casino that can do that has to be tagged as a scam casino. No matter the amount you win from a reputable casino, they will not reject your kyc for no reason, your kyc is going to be accepted and you are going to be paid, that’s why it’s better you use a reputable casino when gambling, there are lots of casino currently, if you are trying out a new casino, make sure you check people’s review about them before using it, a casino with bad review should be completely avoided.

Even after passing a KYC before using a casino, a scam casino will still require more information after winning, and they will look for possible ways to deny the customer's withdrawal. The best thing to do is to choose a reputable casino right from the beginning.

Casinos can say whatever they want and even go so far as to block honest people from playing at their casinos. But that would only happen at shady casinos where we know they can't be trusted. So if you want to do KYC, you must be able to find a trusted casino that will protect its user data from bad things so that users will feel safe doing KYC at that casino.

Yes, the casino can sell its customer data to other parties, and the casino will get additional money from the sale. And if you really don't want to do KYC, you can look for a decentralized casino so that you don't have to enter any data except connecting your wallet address with the casino.

But you need to separate your assets from the wallet because when you connect your wallet to the decentralized casino, you will not know what things can happen later.

It's a serious red flag when a casino, cryptocurrency or not, starts tampering with its terms and conditions, particularly when it comes to KYC. Why wouldn't they be able to maintain consistency in their conditions and keep your money in jeopardy? Screenshots are the paper trail of today. Evidence is always, always necessary, especially in the realm of gaming

Regretfully, KYC is complete garbage. This is a system that causes delays and confusion, and let's face it, no one enjoys having more paperwork. But we have to put up with this garbage, just like when there are bad refs in a game. This is our reality. Stay ahead of the game, be astute, and always be aware of the goalposts that are moving! Keep them from beating you

Yes it's true. But we are talking about the KYC in the context of what it may be needed if we win big and then in order to withdraw the winnings the casino will ask us to pass the KYC to comply with the rules of the AML. Thus, the real need for the passage of the KYC arises when we have won big. Unfortunately, this rarely happens (and not with every gambler), so it’s not worth rushing through the KYC.

Exactly, Casinos typically ask for additional supporting documents in addition to the standard valid ID which the initial KYC ask as requirements. Some casino that ask KYC after winning big amount usually require supporting documents such as financial report or employment certificate to use as source of funds meaning the initial KYC is useless if the casino has the tendency to ask KYC during winning huge amount.

Indeed, nobody seems to be entirely innocent when it comes to protect gamblers' data at a casino. I'm confident that many employees are driven by the desire/greed for extra earnings, even if it means leaking data on their responsibilities.

To be honest, I don't think that there's a completely legitimate casino at all. They may present themselves as legitimate but deep down they might prioritize extracting more from their customers (gamblers) without thinking a lot about the consequences.

But @slapper, what do screenshots really help when it's not a reputable provider? If it is, then I agree but you would usually have less problems with them anyway. But if it is a casino that wants to scam you, I doubt that they would care about any screenshots and if you provide them, they will call them fake. If they make the decision to scam, they will scam. I am all for evidence, so this is not to say that evidence is worthless in any case. But I think in the majority of the cases when you are screwed, you are screwed. And believe I hate that as well and that is why I refrain from using casinos that are mostly unknown or don't have a reliable history of trust and integrity.

I know some people who got their identity stolen because of some leaks in the place where they work and it really turned out bad because they used their identity for cellular fraud and other scam activities. It didn't turn out well and the guy needed to pay lots of money just to clear his name and they never tracked the one who did it. thankfully he is fully cleared now and very careful when it comes to sharing his personal information, he even uses his real name in his social media account due to his past trauma. The poor man was just a fish vendor in the market and was suddenly taken by some police because of someone who stole his identity.

What they say is very true, now things when it comes to money , because there are some people who do not care about their professional Ethics and for little they can Sell this Data , but now I imagine that the systems have been updated and those things , well I think that those in Charge of security are mopnnitroedos and seen by cameras, apart from the fact that there are many things that can influence there, if there is a small data leak it can be immediately detected by the system and alarms are activated, thus correcting that a worker may have that access to the data of the users, with their KYC, which is quite delicate , and of course, that is one of the most recurrent measures of the epersonas that their data is not stolen, that is something normal, I have seen that many of The occasions where a casino can Look for and take into consideration that KYC is beneficial, can say many things, Personally I think they are Forgetting that Security systems are vulnerable, but that part that is so important is simply not they say, because they know that everything falls there.

Now,  accept something, everything , be it in Exchanges, in casinos, they are asking for KYC for everything , and things for players , traders who like anonymity, they are running out of options to be anonymous, because now It is more all focused that they have to know everything about the person, there can be nothing or nobody that escapes the radar of governments, banks, third parties with power, this is something that really bothers.

Something that we can fight against is that , even so , I have seen that some players leave their sites, decentralized casinos, but it turns out to be much more expensive, due to all the risk that this entails, so if we see it from one point of view Well , things like that you will Always be anonymous, your privacy is unique, you will continue to make Transactions and keep safe , but When a problem occurs, I think the Support is Heavy and it can be very Difficult.

It's also a pity if a person like that has been accused of doing illegal things even though he didn't do anything. But that's what happens when we use real identities to register with third parties that we don't even know very well. People should start thinking about this and always be careful if they want to pass on their true identity to third parties. They may have to ensure that the third party can really maintain the confidentiality of all its members who have submitted their documents to their third party.

I have also heard that something similar happened in my area and I feel that this fraud must be stopped by increasing vigilance from the users themselves. They must protect their identity well and not carelessly hand it over to third parties. They need to check everything before doing KYC on a site, not just in a casino, because fraud can happen anywhere we might never expect.

Add the phishing attempts too.
One time I saw a gambler's chat for an attempt of phishing by using a known gambling site's name. I told him to recheck the website address first and not click it and Voila! he saw there was a difference in the name.
These scammers will use any detail that they get and that is why before we pass our KYC information we should also check the address of the site. We should always be keen to look at every detail and not just click anything that is sent to us thru e-mail.
Sometimes, the scammers use bonus rewards, monthly bonuses, and other promos to make it attractive and clickable, and that's where they will get their victims.
Sure, KYC is so hard for many gamblers who want to stay anonymous but somehow this is also a way for us to be secured.

I think this type of problem would have been less if the sites were well established before giving personal information. Not all sites work the same way accessing many websites these days requires entering some personal information. Although most of the information is required to be used on the website, it is better to be careful about giving information. Be sure to read their privacy policy before providing information on websites. Anyone online can become a victim of hacking at any time So everyone should be aware to stay safe online.

That's one of many things we often don't pay attention to. There is a difference in the name on the site name, so this often fools many people. There are many ways that scammers are used and many of these are old ways that used to be used by veteran scammers but still work to deceive people today.

Scammers most often use promotions that come to our e-mail addresses and those who do not check the e-mail address of the sender may directly click on the link in the e-mail. But it turned out to be a fraudulent link that would redirect to a fraudulent site without people knowing. And it's true that we should always make sure of everything before doing something so that we don't regret it later.

Of the many cases that have occurred we should be able to take the positive side by learning that not all trusted places really have guaranteed security including a casino nor can all of them guarantee the security of what we provide, such as personal identification for KYC.
But you don't need to worry because there are several trusted casinos that you can rely on to maintain every customer security regarding KYC and the balance stored in the bankroll.

Anyone will definitely experience mistakes or bad luck even though they are careful in their actions and we just need to always be vigilant and try not to get into trouble that we don't expect.

I'm lost, if a casino is giving many excuses how will the gambler knew its legit? A casino might reject your identity maybe because the document you submitted are outdated or looks not like original copy, etc, there is no way you can call such platform a scam because they don't pass your verification, I mean, my passport is different from others passport.

Some even have weird national identity cards, I remember using one in 2018 and many exchange used to reject the ID, I don't blame them but I never called them scam, later I got my drivers license and I use that to pass every KYC requirement, never been rejected once.

To me passing KYC later is not a smart idea, if you don't want to verify your account do no make deposit on them, you can have difficulty passing the KYC verification even if the online casino is a very popular platform.

I think he wasn't talking people having their personal information hacked on an individual level, but on a platform like a casino or an exchange, we cant really blame the individual involved in such incident, and beside, any platform can be hacked, no matter how robust the platform is, or how secure, let take for example, when binance was hacked, many of us did not believe that such a thing could happen because of how secure we all assumed binance to be, in that hack, money was stolen, and so also was KYC identities of some customers, the hackers could have as well used those information for some illegal stuff they wanted...

The only thing here is that, gamblers should ensure to only submit their kyc documents to only reputable and trusted casinos, because sometimes, it is even the platform that sells users information to third party for money. 

Online casinos should be versatile enough to see which document or ID are real, and not just because your passport and their passport have different features. Every people that are living in different countries will of course have different identifications with them, so what you're saying is not really legit or the casino is sketchy. Reputable casinos will leave some remarks on why they rejected your identification so that you will know what's wrong about it.

As a gambler should know the risks involved with passing the KYC and not passing the KYC because either move will get you different consequences in time. It's just a matter of perspective or if you're a big time roller.

I believe it's not always about manipulation, even some of the most reputable and trusted casino platforms wouldn't ask you to complete KYC verification right after joining the platform, and they wouldn't even ask you for it if you are making small deposits and withdrawals as long as they are okay with it, but as soon as you try to deposit a large amount or request a large withdrawal, they will start asking you for completing your KYC verification then.

I say that because I remember that I have been using Stake.com for quite some time and I was never asked for KYC verification because I never made any large deposit nor have I requested any high withdrawal, so I know that even reputable platforms can sometimes be lenient regarding KYC.

All activities including kyc are important if you want to enjoy real casino services. Before opening an account on any gambling site, you should have an idea of ​​which next step will be easy or difficult for you. kyc is mostly used in casinos because gamblers deposit large sums of money or fund them with winnings. However in that case your confidential information is transferred to the second party so that you personally identify the customer to them. It is unknown to me whether your kyc information can be collected by the government of your country or not, but if gambling is acceptable in your country then there should be no problem.

Everyone should at least learn to read the T&C or if possible read all of it because we need to know if we can withdraw our funds even though we are not doing a KYC or we could just have KYC first before withdrawing money it is always not the same so we need to carefully be updated in every casino we are dealing with so we would not missed anything or we can have a regret that we did not do KYC before anything else.

Yeah passing KYC before doing anything with your new casino account is always the smartest thing to do. That way they cannot later claim you to be a suspicious account and then take months to do the KYC procedure. Even though we know they are just stalling for time, sometimes due to a too high workload or because of incompetence. Either way it leaves the customer (gambler) unsatisfied and frustrated that his KYC procedure is taking so long.

Although, I am personally against KYC if one can avoid it by using a decentralized version of the platform. Although I have not heard of a truly decentralized gambling platform yet. Most "decentralized" casinos are merely claiming to be decentralized as a marketing tactic.

yep, very correct answer. as long as we gamble at a reputable casino or other gambling sites that have good trust when we want to deposit a small amount or withdraw small amount of funds the casino will not ask for KYC verification and I also have accounts at some of the leading gambling sites on this forum and some of they do not require KYC when depositing under $200.

regarding account at Stake.com I remember that some old users who were here have had accounts for a long time and even until now they have not been asked for KYC when depositing and withdrawing any amount because this casino seems to really value old customers.

what is certain is that as long as we do not violate casino rules or cheat, usually we not be asked for KYC with a very long verification as I said before.

That is why before someone registers at a casino, they must read the terms and regulations of the casino. They can also contact the support service to find out what the KYC procedure is or whether the casino requires KYC after they deposit big money or when they get a big win. But if you don't want to do KYC, you don't need to use the casino to gamble, but look for another casino on this forum. The casino will store your KYC information, and if necessary, then your information will be submitted to the government for further investigation, whether you have been or are related to illegal activity or are you clean of anything.

It’s important to do the kyc at the time of registering to the site,because the features was open to the person who May completed the three was of kyc.The basic kyc to deposit into the website,the selfie kyc as the second level of KYC.The video recording of the kyc to the website was third level of kyc.This kyc with video can be misused by the gambling site,if they are not real.It’s most important factor for the gambler to verify the data of gambling site before giving their valuable kyc with video verification.The scam gambling site will sell your kyc with video verification to the secondary agents.The secondary agent will sell to the tertiary black society.

Online casinos must adhere to strict KYC (Know Your Customer) procedures to combat money laundering and other illicit activities like arbing and bonus abuse. However, many customers dislike these protocols such as signing up KYC before playing, preferring more streamlined processes. This resistance often prompts online platforms to implement more rigorous KYC checks only during withdrawals. This approach aims to strike a balance between regulatory compliance and customer preference.

There is a reason for not completing the kyc first. Actually casinos and gambling websites are keep offering bonus daily to draw attention and let people join to their platform. So to take advantage of this offer of free money or free spins, some gambler keep creating accounts on so many websites and not possible to pass kyc in every websites .so l decide to pass kyc later, only if they can win big amount from free spins or bonus. And when they finally win something big, they casinos and websites make them trouble by not accepting kyc or asking more documents which wasn't mentioned on their websites

its something that is common and people just do it maybe because they feel they will pass it when the time comes and then when that time comes it becomes difficult. many of these websites make it mandatory to pass kyc and even for you to have access to some features. but people usually dont read the terms and condition and just in haste to sign up and make deposit. its good to ensure you pass kyc before making deposit especially if you want to stick to a particular website.

Because you're already playing with many accounts in the first place and most of casinos are forbid multiple accounts usage. If you blame them for not accepting your KYC or asking more documents that make you not able to give it, do you think you're correct for gamble using multiple accounts?

There's always a reason behind every action.

Kyc was the most important of the gambling sites,the fake or small gambling sites will allow the gambler to play without the Kyc.But the same small gambling site should ask to complete the kyc to withdrew the funds.This doesn’t mean the small gambling site is the scam one,the small gambling sites mostly concentrate to avoid of the money laundering.The small gambling sites will allow the deposit without the kyc to increase the number of players.But same will ask the kyc on the withdraw to avoid of the money laundering using the gambling sites.The gambling site will do allow of the withdraw after the kyc done by the gambler to avoid of money laundering using their site.

It can be said that it is naive to make deposits on any central platform before verifying the possibilities of imposing identity verification procedures and completing them, even if this is not necessary upon registration. When we register for the first time, we do not know anything about the procedures in place on that platform, and therefore all precautions must be taken to ensure that no disruption occurs during withdrawal operations. In general, casinos also require a first deposit as a procedure to verify the account, so the rest of the identity verification procedures must be completed before that.

I agree it's very important to.pass KYC before even trying to make a deposit on any gambling sites or casino, if it's required, don't wait until you have won a good amount before you do your KYC as there are many negative effects regarding this one of which could be not been able to make withdrawal, especially for small sites who could be considered dubious in some cases.

Some persons wait until they have made a deposit which for dubious sites you may never pass KYC once you deposit before you try to do your KYC hence it's adviced that you make sure to follow due procedures, pass KYC before using the platform fully for gambling and other transactions. Most times our negligence to these things cause us a lot before we could know it.

Using new and small sites probably because of their bonus is very risky and Is not adviced, but what is most appropriate is using reputable sites and casino so you can be sure to be safe and be protected from scam. It's safer gambling with the known and reputable sites. They will make sure you are safe so as to protect their reputation too.

The worst part is they don't even know that the withdrawal tab will not be available until the user gets KYC verified which is kind of the user's fault technically but casinos too have some part in this play like a welcome bonus for a limited time after the signed into their service so the user more concentrate of getting that bonus without actually thinking about the withdrawal and other stuff.

Everyone needs to read the TOS of the website before depositing their money because in reality 99% of people just skip the part and only realize their mistake when its too late to do anything.

Obviously kyc should be done at initial statey if a gambler want to use that Casino or gambling websites for long. And of course they do so. Moreover when they try to create account on others casinos for bonus and free stake opportunities, they avoid kyc until win big amount. This is common thing. I did such thing many time. And a Reputed casinos don't need to make users trouble by applying such trick like "asking additional documents for kyc or face verification something". Such steps on taken by cheap casino websites who always try to scam user by stopping their withdrawal

There are some gambling sites which is not putting KYC as obligation for its users. As long as you were know how to deal with it and that's fine. The only problem if there have been many people were trying to play with high bet but they were unwilling to complete the KYC verification.
There have been so sufficient problems related to this thing as well. Asking KYC to the users is not something prohibited, but the government was telling the gambling operator to do that to avoid the money laundering.
You shall aware if the regulators are always monitoring it. It does not even matter where are you hiding and they will always able to find you. KYC has been ordered by most of the regulators to prevent money laandering.
It is a common thing when the government was willing to know the identity of players.

The mentality of gamblers is somewhat unique, they expressly play a game of chance expecting to win, and yet they make no preparation at all in the case they got it.

So they make a deposit at their favorite casino without thinking about what they will do in the case they finally got lucky, and once they do they struggle to pass the KYC verification as they cannot corroborate the source of their funds or prove who they are, and then they make excuses about the casino playing dirty and not allowing them to withdraw their money when they are the ones that are at fault.

But the source of funds thing is sometimes more complicated than it seems. It really depends what money you are using. If you are a normal employee and you are playing with a bigger sum of money relative to your monthly income, the casino can give you a hard time to accept the proof. They have all the leverage against the player and if they decide to make it as complicated as possible, you can quickly find yourself in a situation where it is hard to prove the source. You can say you saved up that money, but essentially that would be like the casino just asking whether you have a job or not. But it becomes tough when people are self-employed. Most casinos when they have a good reputation will just pay out the winnings unless the winnings are monstrous.

It will be very important to predict what will happen with the casino even if you have completed the entire KYC identity verification procedure, because any casino, no matter how reliable it is, has the right to require verification again, especially when the profits are huge and the user can easily get himself into trouble due to his lack of experience. . As many members have previously pointed out in their comments, it is always advisable to:
- Choose the community’s most reliable platform because it will always be easy to communicate with support in the event of any emergency.
- Complete all KYC verification procedures before making the first deposit, whatever its value.
- If you intend to use a large amount to bet, it is better to distribute it in the form of relatively small amounts on more than one platform.

there are for sure and i experience such websites too. The problem is, they allow you to withdraw till a limited amount. specially its okey if amount is small but when you will try to withdraw a healthy/fair amount, then authority asking for kyc as well as additional documents in some cases. Kyc won't be asked for those player whom losses a lot money but suddenly win a fair amount. But if a person continuously win big amounts, such website make kyc hard for those users. This kind of cheap trick. If they have to follow government order to prevent money laundering, then they should clearly mention about kyc process in their website 

That's the rule, I mean their rule. We just have to be aware and ready for KYC submission in case they require it. Or if we want to be safe, then we try to prevent winning big money, LOL... Seriously, we should all be aware that gambling sites nowadays could implement KYC at any time since they are regulated. So, it should not surprise us anymore. We can only expect no KYC if a gambling site is a decentralized gambling site, which I think only a few of us are patronizing.

If I am not wrong the security system of casinos will not trigger withdrawals based on the winnings of a player in most cases, it happens when user deposit and withdraw without wagering or wagering with the least risk as possible because it seems obvious that the user is not really intended for gambling but trying to deposit and withdraw which looks like laundering, in that case, further details maybe needed from the casino even if you already KYC verified there.

If we didn't read the TOS then provably with that we are not aware of those implementation that might occur to us so before doing anything else on a casino we should read the information posted so we will be aware about the necessary thing that might ask to us in future. And also for this new age of cryptocurrency adoption and most of the platform has been regulated we should not surprised about been ask to do KYC procedure in a casino or on any other else so that we can easily accept that we need to do that for the sake of complying the requirements and can use all the feature of the casino. If we can't afford to do this then maybe its the best time for a gambler to quit since nothing will happen to them if they insist and continue to gamble since their funds will provably lock then the casino will ask them to do that before they can withdraw their funds.

It can be tricky to follow the rules of a casino when you are self-employed and making money. Casinos are very careful because they care about their image and compliance. You need to show that you didnt get your stake from shady sources if you want to keep your job. The catch, though, is this: what if casinos took a broader view of verifying funds? Think about a situation where a player's past income, spending, and even tax returns are important. While it is intrusive, could it not make the process easier, especially for people who work for themselves? Its true that privacy issues are important, but if being open is the key to winning, might it be worth the risk? Casinos already have to balance following the rules and making sure customers are happy. Why not change the way they check people out to match the complexity of today's pay sources? At the heart of every bet is the thrill of the unknown, so shouldnt everyone have the same chance to get to the table?

I disagree with you on this point: I do not see it as the role of any gambling platform or any other service site to verify the sources of users’ funds, and it is not equipped for this. This means that even if it was able to obtain confirmations about the source of the funds, does it have sufficient capabilities to verify this evidence? Especially since the platform's users are from different regions around the world.
It is more correct for the platform, when it doubts one of its users’ balances, to update the account holder’s non-personal data in order to hand it over to the authorities in case they ask for it one day. Or in other cases, you report these suspicions to the authorities.

I think casino has ways to verify the document submitted by their player.  If not, they hire third party services that specialized on KYC documents.  Remember,  almost everyone is just a call away.  Source of funds can easily verify through calls, a person does not need to go abroad in order to call someone.

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About KYC submission, I think a player can set it aside when he is not  yet convince to play on a casino or when he is just trying to test the service of a casino.  And when the time comes that he is ready to put large amount of funds, then I believe that that would be the time to do KYC.

The limits of the powers of the platform or the competent third party company must stop at the limit of verifying identification documents and not exceed it to include searching the sources of deposits, regardless of the type of suspicion.
The platform has the right to seek not to make itself a tool for money laundering, but this must be done in communication with the authorities and not unilaterally.
At the same time, tightening procedures should not be done randomly, because this will adversely affect the reputation of the platform. Instead of taking all measures to gain the trust of the authorities, the platform finds itself losing customers who are tired of repeated identity verification procedures.

True, KYC is an indicator that the online casino is legal. Why? because there is a law requiring the online casino to conduct KYC on their customers, and it's for the casino's safety and also for the customer's money. Yes,  one of the events that the government wants to avoid is money laundering. Many powerful people tend to use this kind of platform to hide their assets, which sometimes come from unknown sources and could be in illegal activities.

I don't understand those people who are hesitant to do KYC, maybe because they have been brainwashed by what they see on the internet, and that's the reason they are hesitant to do KYC. It is important for the customer of the online casino to read first, especially if the platform will require you to undergo KYC before you can withdraw your money. That is common sense; how could a platform know where they are going to send the money without the information or address of the wallet?

To be fair, it must be noted that some platforms exploit KYC enforcement procedures to hinder withdrawals, especially if they are large amounts. If the user has completed these procedures, why are they imposed on him again without clear suspicions? Also, the user does not know anything about his private data, whether the platform shares it with a third party or not. Often these additional measures are not specified in the TOS and users are later surprised that their balances have been frozen or their accounts have been completely frozen.

?What I think about all this is that when we are in a casino, the mentality of entering and looking for profits as we should, can no longer be done, because the first thing to do is to investigate the casino very well to see As is the issue with withdrawals, that is good to see first in the thread Ann, which is the fastest way to look for possible problems, solutions and if withdrawals with KYC are very complicated, then in view of this it can be understand that to do something like this you also have to make it clear that you have to study very well if the KYC are immediately accepted or they start to bother you a lot, if they start demanding a lot, that's already something to not make deposits, at least for now. My opinion is, because there are casinos that don't have as much trouble with that, you can do other types of things for it, so in this order of ideas the casinos should be more transparent, saying instead of "deposit" they should say, "Comply with your KYC so you can safely withdraw your money."

But I think no casino will do it, because obviously when it comes to getting more community or something they are able to sweeten everyone with their good bonuses or something like that, first of all you have to verify what really matters, which is about the money, because it is what really matters, in addition I have seen a large number of complaints made by users who are not satisfied with many casinos and their way of seeing things regarding this, that is why we will always make emphasis on looking for things as they are, apart from the fact that KYC is a process that should not exist in Crypto, and yet there are users who defend it, and I don't know why, it's time to do it, but in terms of acquiescing it, in my opinion and a very personal position I do with the casinos that I really trust, even though I know that the time will come when there will no longer be a need for this, because people will seek their privacy so much that they will stop Using the casinos.

Most gamblers are reluctant to do KYC verification in online casinos. There is one reason why gamblers do not want to do KYC verification in online casinos. Most gamblers prefer casinos that do not have any KYC verification system. In some casinos something is different, initially there is no option of KYC verification but whenever a gambler goes to withdraw his money from that casino he is asked to do KYC verification compulsorily. When a gambler is forced to do KYC verification, a gambler has no choice but to do KYC verification, when a gambler is forced to do KYC verification. Perhaps users don't want to share their personal information with those casino sites because users may be at risk if the casino ever corrupts users or gets sued in the name of the casino.

The issue with some gamblers is the assumption that, being in crypto, everything remains anonymous, allowing for privacy to be maintained. However, that's no longer the reality as adoption has increased, and regulations have become tighter. It's essential to bear in mind, especially with recent news (if you're following), that CZ, the CEO of the largest exchange Binance, was arrested and has reached a settlement with the government, agreeing to pay billions to avoid imprisonment. This highlights the seriousness of regulators, as I believe both exchanges and gambling sites are treated similarly when it comes to regulation.

It's understandable, especially for those new to crypto, to assume they would enjoy complete anonymity due to the term 'decentralized.' However, this is not the case for most casinos. The kind of games or platforms they operate is quite similar to fiat casinos, differing only in the currency used—crypto here, fiat there.

Over time, they'll come to understand the importance of KYC. If we disregard it, it means we are not eligible to gamble. So, if we still want to engage in gambling, we have to acknowledge that KYC is a necessary step and accept it before signing up.

And that site assumes that those who win big are cheaters and those who withdraw huge amounts are fraud and money launderers which freezes their transaction if KYC is not made. This site should never exist because that was illegal and at the same time, they don't let someone get cash from them rather than they are the ones who milk us gamblers. I don't think they follow the guidelines about money laundering as their rules are supposedly clear to everyone that KYC is necessary for all transactions or upon registration, not only when we withdraw.

You can try a small amount, and ask for KYC I'm sure if you make a deposit the platform will agree with your request if they do not want you can choose other casinos you can play just be sure it has a good reputation.

This is a good idea because now even if the casino is highly reputable it can make a loophole in a gambler's account and the documents you submitted, but of course, on your end, you should also make sure that all your documents are up to date and clear so they will not decline your documents.

You can carry out the verification process at a trusted casino because you won't worry about anything. The verification process is to ensure that we will not experience difficulties when we want to make a withdrawal because, usually, gamblers who have not verified their gambling account will have a problem, especially if they want to withdraw a large amount of money at once. We hope that carrying out verification can prevent us from being delayed by the casino because the casino wants to check our gambling account. But we have to make sure that we do that verification at a trusted casino.

There's no want dare to submit KYC to unknown casino, yeah you can argue only gamble in a reputable casino, but you're forget every project was start from nothing. So imagine the casino is still nothing, there's no chance for them to growth since no one want to gamble.

It's better KYC for necessary or important conditions than asking it upon registration or before make a deposit.

I agree KYC is good for important conditions but not all casinos are the same for gambling. There are many casino sites that make kyc mandatory for scams when they take personal information so it's best to stay away from these schemes. While the risks are a little lower in good and reputable casinos, it will be easier to know a lot if you take your own precautions. If you research the site well, there will be no problem in the case of withdrawal.

When we gamble, of course we have trusted site that we really always rely on and that site is definitely one of the big sites and has a good reputation, so that the only site we need to trust in completing KYC verification.
Some other sites that are only used to try new things or just look for bonuses, it would be better to avoid them when asked to complete KYC.
There are not many cases of fraud or misuse of personal data provided by customers, but anticipating or preventing it is better thing and must be done.

Indeed, KYC is usually requested when making withdrawal, especially if the withdrawal is large amount then the team will definitely request KYC as requirement for the withdrawal.
I just don't have problem if these requirements are written in the tos because that means the casino requires KYC if needed.